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We'll start with the Dodgers today,
Rodney. And it's something you and

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I talked about a couple of weeks
ago, but now it's really starting to

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come into focus. God, people
are going to hate them this year.

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I mean people are just going to
hate their guts. They are going to

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be the villains of baseball. And
I suggest quite frankly the villains of professional

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sports. Oh you went all the
way there. They've got the target on

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their back of professional sports. Yes, wow, it's jealousy. It's it's

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pure and simple jealousy. What they've
done is impossible, basically for anybody else

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to do. They've just spent all
the money they can't. Now, let's

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say this, and I've said this
numerous times, it doesn't matter how much

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you spend, it's how you spend
it. And the perfect example of that

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is what happened with the Padres last
year. That was just stupid. What

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they did was stupid when they were
doing stupid for you with the Padres,

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I mean, let's get on that
topic, because everything wasn't stupid. Okay,

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Sander Bullgarts was stupid. That's the
first one. Yes, Okay,

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that's the big one. I know, I know that. I can't get

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over that one. They didn't have
to because they didn't have to. They

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didn't have to. I mean,
good player, good player for Boston for

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years, good player. But is
he one of those players that, oh

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my god, we got to have
him. No, and they paid him?

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Oh they paid him, all right, they paid him, Yeah,

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they did. And the minute they
did that. That's when I started playing

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the name game, going, this
is ridiculous. I mean, Machado they

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redid him. It's like, what
are you doing down there? What are

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you doing? Is gonna give you
thirty dogs a year? I gotta go,

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you gotta pay tatties because he is
went healthy, a generational type of

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talent. And and you know they
they they had Blake's I mean what they

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did down there should have probably worked. What they did is they spent an

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awful lot of money the wrong way. Look at the Mats. Look at

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Steve Cohen in the Mets. That's
a disaster. He spent money and it

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didn't work. It was just like
God will grab anybody with a name,

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and we think they can play my
God. The Rangers and that ridiculous deal

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they gave Jacob de Gram, a
guy that is always heard. Yeah,

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well but still still that was not
wise. So what you do, what

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you see are teams that, for
whatever reason, at a given moment in

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time, if in fact our owner
decides that's it, I'm not putting on

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with us anymore. We're going for
it right now. Yeah, I mean

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they are throwing money. Yeah,
are people going to start looking at the

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Phillies the same way because they throw
money and they haven't won it. They've

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been to one. You know,
they got bounced this past year. I

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mean, they they in the conversation, which is great, and they're they're

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a team. Every year. It
feels like they're going to be right in

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the mix. But they haven't won
it. Okay, but you know what,

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they spent some money now, okay, but to that point, to

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that point, I think it's fair. If you look at the Phillies,

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don't you think they're gonna be in
it? Yes, you do. Don't

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you think they're gonna be in Unlike
the Mets that you felt that they were

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not gonna be in it, right, the Padres you thought they could be

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okay, but you didn't think they'd
be in it. But the Phillies,

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Yeah, yeah, I think they're
gonna be in it every year. So

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that's money well spent. They're in
the conversation, and at that point,

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you know, it's a crapshoot.
Is everybody healthy, is everybody hot at

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the right time? But they're going
to be in it Padres No, Mets,

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No, it was poorly orchestrated.
They made mistakes. They just threw

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money at people. The Dodgers now
did not just take a bushelful of money

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and start throwing it around at Otani
Junior slash Xander Bogart's. They went out

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and got the two guys, Otani
and Yamamoto. That's money. Well,

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and I have to be honest,
they probably weren't too long on Yamamoto.

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That's me. It's not my money. I don't get to tell them how

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to spend it. And if you're
a fan, you love they made that

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commitment. I think it's too many
years, but nobody cares what I think.

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Nonetheless, he's got an unbelievable training
regiment. Fred, that's gonna make

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him last fifteen years if need be
so. Once you were your pretty little

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head, and he'll be competing for
Japan and the javelin throw in the Olympics.

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Yeah, yeah, you will.
But going back to what you were

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saying about early on about the Dodgers
in the villain though, because it has

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been so long that the Dodgers have
been viewed as it's the historical classy Dodger

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organization, right, and the Yankees
are the evil empire. Yankees are the

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villains. Yankees are the evil team, the bad team in the East,

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the big bad East, all those
things, and now you feel on a

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dime. It is switched now to
the Dodgers are the aided villainous team as

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the Yankees, which were in the
seventies and eighties. Well, because people

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are just I mean, that's really
the bottom line. If you're a medium

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market team, you say, well, this cannot happen. We can't do

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what. You're destroying the infrastructure of
major League Baseball by spending. People hated

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the Yankees because also they spent money, but also they had the villain as

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the owner that went frants around in
Steinbrenner, which added to all of that.

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The Dodgers are you know, the
nice Mark Walter and the Guga Nye

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guys, very cool, very cool
to be around. Right, how can

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we be villains? And now you
know I put we in there, how

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can we be villains? Red?
Yeah, Well they're villains. They're big

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time villains. And I would I
would suggest this that the trade Turner year,

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when he was here for the full
season, Yeah, Dodgers were approaching

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villain status. Uh yeah with Sureser
and straight Yeah, a little bit.

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They were approaching that. You know
that boy, these guys they're really loaded.

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Okay, well that what the hell? So now when you go out

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and get the two biggest names available, by the way, and let's not

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just call them big names, there
is proof of performance. You know what

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Otani can do, and your sample
size of Yamamoto is his work in the

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Japanese League where he was lights out
an MVP, their cy Young winner.

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They went out and did it.
They did what everybody wanted to do.

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They did what most people couldn't afford
to do, and every fan base which

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their team could do right and that, and there's a jealousy right there and

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there, and that's why you become
the villain. Yeah, yeah, just

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accept it. Accept it. You
know what, take your medicine, you

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know what, wear it, wear
it, wear it and wear it proud,

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Wear it proud. But but I
still don't think it's going to get

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to the point of the nastiness,
ugliness the way that people felt about the

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Yankees. Do you, Oh,
I think they're gonna hate the Dodgers Rodney

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to that level? Oh yeah,
to that level, my god? Yes,

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wow? Oh yeah, the trobinhood
take from the rich and give to

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the poor. Oh yeah, they're
gonna hate the Dodgers. Yeah, but

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the Dodgers don't have that evil feel
to them like the like I said,

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Yankees said stein Brenner, you know, for the evil Empire. Steinbrenner was

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Darth Vader. Yep, right,
who's the who's the Dodgers dars? Who's

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the front man for the Dodgers to
run this evil empire? And we're gonna

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say it's Andrew Friedman as the the
new Darth Vader, DALs mal or whatever

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whatever the guy is. Now,
who is the Who's who's that guy for

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the Dodgers as Steinbrenner was the Darth
Vader for the Yankees? Who is that

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guy that? That guy doesn't exist? No, well, who is he?

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No? Mark Mark Walter because he, like most people and players love

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their owner to be kind of silent
in the background a little bit. Okay,

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most Dodger fans probably wouldn't know Mark
Walter if you walk by. That's

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like, you know, invisible.
He usually is correct, which is what

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players love. You know, owners
that that are quiet in the background.

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You know, you know him internally. But they don't have radio shows and

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podcasts and talk about the team every
single day and things of that nature and

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and but the biggest thing is they
spend money when they have to. That's

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what you love, all right.
So most people can't do that. Most

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billionaires can't do that. They can't
do both, right, Well, he

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can. So if you just look
at it from the front office, who

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could the villain be? How do
you have a villain on your team when

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Magic Johnson is one of the owners? How Goold one of the most likable

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people you'll ever meet in your life. Yeah, so who's the bad cop?

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Get a good cup at BA?
It's not Andrew Friedman. No,

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I don't think so either. It's
some people would believe it's Andrew Friedman,

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but it's not because when you talk
to him, he's so disarming that he

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talks to everybody and he has no
edge to him at all from a sarcastic

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or mean spirited perspective. No,
not outwardly, but I think he's he's

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as tough as nails when it comes
to negotiating. I'm sure he is.

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But you know what, we don't
see that public doesn't see that. Okay,

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but you can only talk about the
perception of the public, So it

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can't be him. Is there going
to be Dave Roberts. Dave Roberts remembers

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everybody's name and every city he ever
goes to. Right, And when you

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Dave Robbers because you can't hate him
as a person as a person, No,

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people try to figure out and manufacture
ways that they don't want to like

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Dave Roberts. Right. I mean, who you gonna hate? Mark Pryor

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He'll be the villain, the pitching
coach, Bob Garren who sits next to

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Dave, who is there to hate, but the team wreck Frank mccurt Just

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for that role, Dodger fans sign
up for about that. We just create

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a role for Frank mccurt, a
perfect role for you. Well, he

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still kind of hated because he still
owns part of the parking lot. Evil

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step brother or whatever you want to
call it. Right, So I'm just

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saying I think as a whole,
the idea of what they've done turns them

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into the villains. I had a
conversation I think I told you guys I

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was talking to. Well, now
I've had another one as a matter of

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fact, with two people that at
one point work for the Angels in their

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front office, and they were just
talking about how bad what the Dodgers have

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done is for the game of baseball
and how it destroys the competitive balance.

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You know, in my argument to
both of them, and the conversations were

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individual woods. Well, first of
all, you don't get that pass because

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your team believes it's in Los Angeles. They put it in their name los

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Angeles Angels of Anaheim. So don't
pleat poverty and don't plead poor, because

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if you want to play with the
big kids, then act like it.

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You don't get to turn around and
go, well, they're ruining the whole

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thing. Well, why the hell
don't you ruin it? Why don't you

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ruin the whole thing? If you
want to play with them, then go

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be like them, And if you
want to be like them, then ruin

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the competitive balance. So I don't
buy that. Yeah, I don't buy

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it either. And I always go
back to when people say that, oh,

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they've ruined the ruined baseball or ruin
the competitive balance, I always throw

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back at him. Said. The
last team that repeated was the ninety eight

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Yankees. I believe are two thousand
Yankees. It's been twenty four years before

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since a team has repeated as World
champions, which means there's a different champion

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every single year, So which lease
you believe that you know someone different is

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going to win a champion. So
it's not like somebody's running off ten in

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a row. It's, oh god, we can't beat them. It's not

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like Alabama when their Heyday, when
every year that you knew they were going

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to be in the title game.
No, it's not like that. Yes,

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there's a there's a there's an upper
echelon of teams that will kind of

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always be in the conversation. But
there's always going to be that team or

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two that sneaks in in the Arizona
boom, they go all the way.

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So to say that there's not competitive
balance or there's no competitiveness in in baseball,

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it's just a ridiculous statement. The
more I think about it, and

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you know, we we have gone
over this in the past, and and

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these these guys I talked to and
had the conversations because I made this argument,

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if you can't if you can't play
and you can't pay, then get

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out. It's pretty simple. And
they said, well, you have to

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understand smaller markets don't generate the kind
of revenue. And my response was I

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don't really care. It's not my
problem. If I own a team,

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I'm in a win it. And
if I can't afford that, well,

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you'd have to spend your own money. Well, I guess you would,

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wouldn't you. I guess you'd have
to do that. If you bought the

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guy forbid, you'd have to spend
your own money. I you know,

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I guess you might have to do
that. Nobody begged you to buy the

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team in the first place, right, I guess maybe that's that's what would

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be required. Then you'll have to
spend your own money. Well, we'll

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lose money. I guess that's what
is required here, and in the process

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figure out a different way to do
it. But if you want to play,

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you have to pay. So when
people complain about the competitive balance,

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I could care less. No,
I'm glad I live here, to be

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honest with you. Yeah, but
you know, if you're living in Kansas

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City, Tampa, Tampa is in
it every year. No, they're not

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gonna win it because then they fall
apart at the end because they don't have

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enough veteran guys that know what they're
doing. But they're in it every year.

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They're no different than the Dodgers.
When Tampa comes to town, you're

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playing one of the best teams in
baseball every single time, every time,

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So Tampa can do it exactly.
Stop bitching. If you're another club,

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stop complaining about the competitive balance,
because it is eminently doable. And there's

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an abundance of good players, Yes
there are, but you've got to identify

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them, Rodney. You've got to
find those good players. And when you

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find them and you plug them in
off and running, you go this competitive

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balance stuff enough, just enough.
If you can't win, stop complaining.

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If you can't give yourself the best
opportunity to win, stop complaining, Stop

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lying to your fans. Figure it
out. In a big market, you've

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got to spend more money. It
costs more to operate the team in Los

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Angeles than a dozen cents Inna or
Baltimore. You have to because there's so

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much to do. You have to
be top of mind, top of page.

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And the Dodgers have done that,
and yeah, and look at them

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again, there's enough players out there. Look, will Smith was not the

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first pick in the draft. The
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People had looks at Max Munsey.
Max Munsey played for the Oakland A's

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Max Munsey bounced around. Other teams
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know, so identifying players developing players
is another point that you always make of

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how to spend money. And these
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if you probably got in a conversation
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system, that's where you start.
Bottom of the hour. We'll play Little

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Who Discs. Give you a check. Katie's in today, right, Yes,

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she is right, So we'll give
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Katy's really good at who dis yeh, she is. I'm just saying

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this is one of your better games. Oh he saw that look on his

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face too when he said that Katy, ah Man, I would Katie,

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if I could, I would.
And when we come back, let me

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ask you, if you see something, do you expect it to be what

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you see? Because apparently in the
NBA now they don't. We'll get into

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it. Come on, let's keep
it going, baby. It's January,

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y'all. Twenty twenty four. Rodney
Pete bred Rogan, Yes, everybody dance

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now. Mike Rabel got it today. Fred I didn't see that yet.

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Yeah, Mike Rabel from the Titans
got it today. A lot of people

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speculating this he's gonna go to New
England and that's gonna be the way Belichick

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gets out. But he can coach
Rodney. No, he's a great coach.

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I believe he really is. And
if you talk to most of the

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uh you know, words or verbiage
or noise coming out of Tennessee as all

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the players love him, love him
as a coach. You know, obviously

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the last couple of years at quarterback
injuries, if you kind of handcuffed him

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a little bit. But definitely he
can coach. And again, like I

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said, players like him. Well
you know, for him, it'll be

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a breath of a breath of fresh
air. Actually, you know, maybe

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a chance to exhale. I would
think if you're in a situation and uh,

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you know, you're having quarterback injuries, eventually you start bang your head

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against the wall. Mm hmmm hm. I agree. And then and then

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you see Derrick Henry didn't waste any
time after the game and grabbing the microphone

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say fans, thank you very much. It's been a wonderful ride. I'm

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not retiring, but uh, it
doesn't look like I'm gonna be back here

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in Tennessee. So that was kind
of strange that he did it, did

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it that way and so vocal.
It was very I mean, he isn't

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not a guy unless he says something
that I haven't heard that he's retiring anything

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like that. But he was very
adamant, and to do it that way,

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I guess. I guess you got
to assume that they had conversations.

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Hey, Derek, we're not bringing
you back in any circumstances, So you

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want to say you're goodbye, Say
you're goodbyes. All right, Clippers of

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beat Phoenix last night. Shockingly,
I guess Kawhi wasn't really in that minutes

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restriction. That's amazing that three minutes
they saved the night before. I made

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all the difference for him last night. Look at you, Freddie, look

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at you stirring that pot. Well, come on, Rodney, that three

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minutes that was the difference that paid
all the difference. We saw you.

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Listen, I got no argue that
that I'm with you in there. If

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the closed ball game and we're talking, minutes restriction is a difference, and

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I'm a difference maker like I am
Kawhi, I'm in at crunch time,

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coach, I'm love you, Tyler, little whatever, doctor, Come on,

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man, I'm I'm put me in
the game, or not even that,

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I'm just walking to the scores table. Yeah, it's kind of like

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Kobe. Yeah, Kobe checked himself
into Victor Webbin Yama did that last week?

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Pop himself into a game? Yes, pops, Like, what the

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hell are you doing? Forget who
it was? A picture was telling the

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story about about one of his managers. He had one at a time that

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came out to go get him,
like late in the game, came to

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go get him. He said,
straight up, unless you bringing Cy Young

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out of that, turn your ass
around and walk back to the dug out.

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I ain't coming out of this gate. Yeah, sometimes you gotta stand

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up if you're this guy. Hey, no, Hey, let's go win

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this thing. Yeah, Kevin pulled
the Doug roll round. That'd be good.

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I haven't Oh you got good?
All right? So, uh don't

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you remember when Tommy the Soda wants
to take Doug Row out of the game.

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Listen to this good. I don't
give you feel good for minutes up

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there. I don't give a give
a ship doggie. Well, I may

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be wrong, but that's my goddamn
job. I'll make the food decisions here.

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I'll make the food decisions here.
Okay, yesterday, I don't give

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up. I'm making decisions. Give
your food. Shut I told you you're

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talking about it, and I want
to say safe talking about his side.

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This is not the first thing talking
about. It's great for you to be

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standing out here talking to me like
that. I feel good. I would

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give Doug. I'm the man that
you're the team. I gotta make the

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and I'll make him to the best
of my ability, but I'll make it.

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Maybe that's the Maybe that's the conversation
Tylerhwi Kawai the other night. Maybe

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that's how it went. Yeah,
I don't care how many tim shifts you've

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got there, Kawhi, Leonard,
get your ass on the bench. I

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gotta make this decision. But when
I wanted to touch on so they won

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and Lakers play tonight. Answer raptors, all right, did you see the

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play in the Boston game last night? I did not actually tweeted about it.

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I did not, all right,
And the X he xed about it?

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Oh, he ked about it?
Okay, bank that picture for me.

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Fred bottom line is a Celtic player
goes up to shoot late in the

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game. Uh, he's hit in
the head. He's hit in the head.

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He goes up, defender comes up
and hits him in ahead. They

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don't call a foul. Okay,
they challenge it. All right, you

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see the video. He hits him
in the head. He got him in

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the head, got him from behind
in the head. They look at it

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and go, no foul, no
foul. Lebroncods what even what? It

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doesn't work. Replay doesn't work if
after watching it most people don't come to

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the same conclusion. If you're sitting
and your eye see something, you've seen

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it, right, You've seen it. You just saw it. How in

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the world, after looking at something, can it be seen differently than the

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way the majority of people see it. It's impossible. Everybody sees this and

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you go, oh my god,
a guy get hit in the head.

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All right, well, they slowed
it down. We saw it. The

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officials, the people back in New
York, they have the exact same ability

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to see it. So if they
look at it and go, we now,

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we don't think so. But everybody
can see he got hit in the

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head. That's a problem. It
doesn't work. I meant, you've got

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the reps there and you got New
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couldn't make the call. Well,
well, first of all, they need

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to all of them take the on
court officials out of it. Yes,

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right, that that's on the field
in the NFL, on the court in

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the NBA. What it happen in
the XFL, you said, Kevin,

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the sky judges. Yeah, they
had a sky judge who can immediately tell

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the officials in their ear Nope,
we're not going to review that, or

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we should review that, or that
was a bad call. Let's go ahead

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and change it and keep on moving. It wasn't even a discussion. The

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sky judge saw it, made the
call, and they kept on moving.

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Yeah. I like that. I
mean in baseball, what they do They

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go back to the control center and
the empire stand there and they got their

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little earplug in and they're listening,
and I tell them this is what it

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is. Move on, Yeah,
move on. We don't need you to

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look the monitor. We don't need
you to make a decision. We got

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it. We have all the technology
in front of them. I mean,

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yeah, they don't have a you
know, a seventy year old man running

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the length of a football field to
get under her a tent to tetter see

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if it's inbounds or out of bounds, like the NFL does. That's so

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ridiculous to me sometimes that that little
tent that he's got to look into is

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at the other end of the field
and they got to run all the way

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down to the other end of the
field to look at it to make a

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decision. Yeah, just get it
from New York and say call it today.

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You don't even have to move right, nobody has to do anything.

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So why why in the world do
they continue to do this? And that's

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a perfect example obviously, guys hitting
the head it's a foul. No it's

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not, because we've now decided it's
not. And maybe we have to jump

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to fire our call. And I'm
sure at the beginning of replay officials were

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skeptical and thought, oh god,
if they overturn it, it's bad on

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me. No, everybody acknowledges every
game is played in a split second.

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Lightning pigs that part right, and
your human beings. And we'll also make

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the call that you get them right
more than you get them wrong. We'll

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acknowledge that because you are pros.
But occasionally you're going to miss, and

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if you miss, there's no shame
in it. Let's get it right and

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keep moving. Where do you land
on refs doing a quick press conference after

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the game. I'm not against I'm
not against it, not that you have

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all reporters in there, but it's
a like a five minute with the refs

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and they answer a series of questions
that are submitted by the sports writers or

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whoever. But they have that.
They have the pool reporter after every game,

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and they do it right after every
single game, and they get But

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but how are the questions posed to
them? Well, I think the pool

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reporter talks to all of his colleagues
and it says, what are you thinking

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on that call? Or what did
you make on that the Celtic player got

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hit in the head and you guys
looked at it and didn't make a call?

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Right, you can say that what
the hell are you thinking? Right?

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Well, the pool reporter can do
that. But all the but I

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was getting, it's like, is
that accessible to everybody that wants to see?

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Yes? Yeah, that information.
Then the pool reporter comes out and

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goes, this is what he said, and everybody gets that. But there's

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no is there a like there should
be a site. We could go right

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to what he what he what was
his answer for that player or what was

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his description or why he made that
call? Well, I think what happens

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is when they come out, somebody
will tweet it immediately. I do think

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that. I think that. Yeah, I want to hear him explain it.

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Okay that they don't do I want
to hear. I want to hear

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Brad Allen explain why he said seventy
eligible instead of sixty eight. Okay,

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maybe what they do then the pool
reporter they also sent a camera, yes,

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in each in each stadium, and
the one guy gets to ask the

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questions. That's fine, yeah,
but then uh the official is recorded and

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then you know, broadcast. I
like that could it be? And you

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tell me the officials really want to
be anonymous anyway? Some most do,

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right, There are others that,
hey, this is my time to shine.

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Check me out baby, Sunday afternoon
one, I will be on TV.

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Oh yeah, officials roll that way, Fred? When you played,

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were there the officials like the officials
that were full of themselves? Absolutely all

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right? Tell me hearin about their
their uniform as much as as as players

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did. There's official that he wasn't
a referee. He was as he was.

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I want to say, he was
a back judge. So he's in

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the middle of the field and get
seen sometimes the line judge. You know,

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those guys on the sidelines, they
don't really get seen as much,

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but the back judge of the field
judge. I mean, they're getting seen.

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And this guy would be fixing his
uniform, his referee uniform every play,

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every player was his socks. It
was to the point where he's bending

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down. We saw it on tape
and this is when I was with the

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Raiders. We saw it on tape
where he's bending down fixing his sock as

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the play's going on, not once
spread but multiple times during the game that

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he's fixing a part of his referee
uniform and the ball had already been snapped

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and he had moved. So yes, yes, there are people like I'm

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gonna be on TV tomorrow, this
is my moment, and uh, watch

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out for me, Watch out for
me? Can you tape the game for

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me? When when you would deal
with the guys in the hats, the

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referees, the white hats. Were
there guys like that as referees, not

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so much. No, most of
most of them were really professional. And

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and because you know, you know
this, they all work so hard to

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get to that point, to become
the referee, because you're the leader of

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that group. So I never really
never really saw it from those guys.

408
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Those guys were, for the most
part, for the most part, they

409
00:30:32.279 --> 00:30:33.920
were good. There was one I
can't remember his name right now, but

410
00:30:34.599 --> 00:30:38.519
he was just just mad at the
world. Should never have been a referee,

411
00:30:40.000 --> 00:30:41.519
and and and he and he reffed
a long time. Again, I

412
00:30:41.559 --> 00:30:45.000
can't remember his name, but he
reffed a long time. And in fact,

413
00:30:45.039 --> 00:30:48.680
he might be he might be one
of those analysts that are on the

414
00:30:48.720 --> 00:30:52.759
shows now, you know, because
every game has got a referee in the

415
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booth for the broadcast. But just
you know, even just asking, you

416
00:31:00.240 --> 00:31:03.079
know, for simple things, can
I get a measurement? Can I get

417
00:31:03.200 --> 00:31:07.440
you know, what's uh is that
time? Right? We need to you

418
00:31:07.480 --> 00:31:11.079
know, can I get the twenty
five second clock to reset? Everything was

419
00:31:11.119 --> 00:31:17.160
absolutely not No, No, you
cannot, no, you cannot. I'm

420
00:31:17.160 --> 00:31:21.400
windy, Rodney, I'm winding right
now, I'm winding. I mean,

421
00:31:21.559 --> 00:31:29.759
everything was a bark like I was
asking him for his firstborn child. No,

422
00:31:29.880 --> 00:31:34.000
you cannot have a measurement. No, was it Jerry Austin? That

423
00:31:34.119 --> 00:31:37.240
might have been him, because he
seems like the type. Is he the

424
00:31:37.319 --> 00:31:40.039
long tall kind of he's a tall
guy. He was with a four letter

425
00:31:40.440 --> 00:31:41.680
I don't know if he's still there
or not. They've cycled through some of

426
00:31:41.759 --> 00:31:45.319
there. I'm gonna tell you exactly, okay, because there was John John

427
00:31:45.400 --> 00:31:52.920
Perry, Jeans Sterotor, I know
those guys. God, he it might

428
00:31:52.920 --> 00:31:56.039
have been him, Jerry Austin.
Yeah, I'm gonna look him up.

429
00:31:56.160 --> 00:31:59.240
Yeah, yeah, look him up, Rodney, look him up. If

430
00:31:59.240 --> 00:32:02.319
that was the guy. If it
was him, man, he he boy,

431
00:32:04.440 --> 00:32:08.279
he just woke up mad at the
world. What was he ever?

432
00:32:08.480 --> 00:32:13.400
Pleasant? No? Not even before
the games. You know you joke around

433
00:32:13.400 --> 00:32:17.039
with these guys before the games and
just you know, you kid him like

434
00:32:17.079 --> 00:32:21.559
I said, you know, you
tell hey, you know seventy five.

435
00:32:21.759 --> 00:32:23.279
He likes to hold a lot.
Keep an eye on that cat. You

436
00:32:23.319 --> 00:32:27.119
know last time he hit me low? Come on, come on now,

437
00:32:27.759 --> 00:32:30.559
Yes, yes, yes, yes, it was Jerry Austin, Yes,

438
00:32:32.839 --> 00:32:37.160
one hundred percent. He's just one
of those who look at a picture.

439
00:32:37.519 --> 00:32:39.200
He looks like he's a chap ass. It's so funny. You picked him

440
00:32:39.279 --> 00:32:45.920
right out of the hat. Absolutely, one hundred percent. Jerry Austen,

441
00:32:45.039 --> 00:32:50.920
Yep, Jerry was not. Jerry
was not the friendliest of guy's. Boy.

442
00:32:51.079 --> 00:32:58.279
Jerry was just no you not,
no, no, Rodney. Did

443
00:32:58.319 --> 00:33:00.519
you ever say to him on the
ball Jerry calm down? Yeah, oh

444
00:33:00.599 --> 00:33:04.880
after the game, like if we
were in victory and we're winning, yeah,

445
00:33:04.880 --> 00:33:07.279
I would. I would joke and
tease with him. Jerrik, can

446
00:33:07.279 --> 00:33:09.880
you relax now, now you can
relax a little bit. Jared Game's over

447
00:33:12.039 --> 00:33:16.599
would not say a word. Did
he work Super bowls? Kevin? I

448
00:33:16.640 --> 00:33:19.640
mean, he was around for a
long time, and imagine he would.

449
00:33:19.640 --> 00:33:22.920
I'm sure he did at some point. He was wrapped from eighty two to

450
00:33:22.960 --> 00:33:25.440
two thousand and seven. I'd imagine
you wouldn't work that long without working a

451
00:33:25.440 --> 00:33:30.519
Super Bowl or two, right,
right, right? Yeah? Yeah,

452
00:33:30.240 --> 00:33:34.559
a lot of them. You know, most of the guys were pretty we're

453
00:33:34.599 --> 00:33:37.519
pretty friendly. Johnny Greer was the
friendliest guys. He looked friendly. Yeah,

454
00:33:37.720 --> 00:33:44.680
Johnny was very very friendly and just
have conversations with both. Was he

455
00:33:44.720 --> 00:33:46.640
not one of the first black referees? And I think he probably was.

456
00:33:46.720 --> 00:33:52.039
Yeah, yeah, yeah, because
he was older when I played, so

457
00:33:52.119 --> 00:33:54.480
yeah, yeah, yeah, but
yeah, he was very friendly with like,

458
00:33:54.519 --> 00:33:59.960
hey, hey, even when he
couldn't do something for you is how

459
00:34:00.039 --> 00:34:01.400
Oh come on, Rodnie, you
know I can't do that for you.

460
00:34:01.400 --> 00:34:04.680
You know, I'll check it out
and I you know I can't do that.

461
00:34:06.440 --> 00:34:08.639
Come on, Johnny, you gotta
call that holding Johnny's he's laying on

462
00:34:08.679 --> 00:34:10.719
me, Johnny, I can't.
I can't even get up for the two

463
00:34:10.719 --> 00:34:14.400
minute drill. This guy's laying on
me. Johnny called it, I know.

464
00:34:14.440 --> 00:34:15.960
And then he would have a conversation
with the other guy, Richard,

465
00:34:16.320 --> 00:34:19.320
Hey, ditt, come on,
now, you gotta get off him.

466
00:34:19.599 --> 00:34:22.039
You gotta get off him, you
know. So he would keep that that

467
00:34:22.159 --> 00:34:27.559
rapport going throughout the game, you
know, even when guys were going at

468
00:34:27.639 --> 00:34:30.519
him and yelling at him. You
know, he's one of those refs that

469
00:34:30.519 --> 00:34:35.199
that the opposite of those those either
referees or umpires that are so quick to

470
00:34:35.199 --> 00:34:37.960
give you a technical or so quick
to throw you out of the game.

471
00:34:37.239 --> 00:34:42.519
It have to be a lot for
a guy like Johnny to throw a penalty

472
00:34:42.519 --> 00:34:45.440
on you, or even for him
to get upset because he understood the hit

473
00:34:45.480 --> 00:34:47.199
the heat of the battle, and
guys are just in the middle of the

474
00:34:47.239 --> 00:34:52.280
battle, and this could really affect
the outcome of the game. Not so

475
00:34:52.360 --> 00:34:55.800
much maybe the outcome, but that
situation can affect. If I throw a

476
00:34:55.800 --> 00:35:01.519
fifteen yard penalty right now on this
guy, then that changes the complexion of

477
00:35:01.559 --> 00:35:04.760
the game at this moment. I
don't want to do that if I don't

478
00:35:04.800 --> 00:35:07.440
have to. So he would give
guys the benefit of the doubt if they

479
00:35:07.440 --> 00:35:10.880
were yelling and screaming at him.
Yeah, but Jerry Austin would never no.

480
00:35:10.880 --> 00:35:15.159
No, he had one hand on
the whistle and other hand on the

481
00:35:15.199 --> 00:35:20.880
flag. Ready to go, Katie, this is terrible news. I think

482
00:35:20.880 --> 00:35:23.960
we're gon we're gonna have to move. Who did Oh? Oh, no,

483
00:35:23.960 --> 00:35:25.760
No, I know, I know
you were looking forward to it.

484
00:35:25.880 --> 00:35:29.920
We'll try to get it in later. H top of the album one o'clock,

485
00:35:30.039 --> 00:35:37.159
David Massey will join us in the
studio. Uh huh. Today's Afternoon

486
00:35:37.199 --> 00:35:45.480
Delight is pe fiction by Hit Boy, Big Hit and The Game. This

487
00:35:45.639 --> 00:35:51.239
song appears on the trio's nine track
EP entitled Paisley Dreams, which dropped over

488
00:35:51.280 --> 00:35:57.199
the weekend. The Game posted the
album's cover art on his Instagram page with

489
00:35:57.280 --> 00:36:01.159
the caption I pulled on Hit Boy, Big Hit three, a big Hit

490
00:36:01.239 --> 00:36:07.239
three days ago to do one song, stayed a few hours and ended up

491
00:36:07.280 --> 00:36:10.599
doing nine song tape that night.
I'm not here to ask you to stream

492
00:36:10.679 --> 00:36:15.360
or download it. I'm just a
man telling his fans a story about last

493
00:36:15.440 --> 00:36:23.719
night and the night before again.
Today's afternoon Delight is pe fiction by the

494
00:36:23.840 --> 00:36:29.719
game hit Boy and Big Hit.
Okay, now our weekly chat with our

495
00:36:29.719 --> 00:36:32.880
good friend Jacob and Ronnie and Jacob, how are you today? I'm doing

496
00:36:32.920 --> 00:36:37.679
wonderful. How are you, gentlemen? Doing well? Jacobing well? Doing

497
00:36:37.719 --> 00:36:43.280
well, doing well. Just saw
a report come down that before darvinham moved

498
00:36:43.480 --> 00:36:47.519
D'Angelo Russell to the bench, he
had a conversation with Anthony Davis and lebron

499
00:36:47.599 --> 00:36:52.440
about it. I get that.
I respect that that he went to those

500
00:36:52.440 --> 00:36:54.880
two and said, what do you
think, Jacob, how do you feel

501
00:36:54.880 --> 00:36:59.880
about that? I mean, this
regime all the way, it's from you

502
00:37:00.079 --> 00:37:05.239
know, Ropelinka coming in and uh, you know last coach Frank Vogel and

503
00:37:05.239 --> 00:37:08.039
even Darvin. I mean, it's
you know, the way the Lakers operate

504
00:37:08.119 --> 00:37:13.000
now, which is nice? Is
they include their superstars and all their decision

505
00:37:13.039 --> 00:37:15.880
making. So you know, there's
not a surprise to any of us.

506
00:37:15.320 --> 00:37:17.719
And there's nothing wrong with that.
I mean, I know people want to

507
00:37:17.719 --> 00:37:22.480
make a big deal about it,
but I've been on several teams where you

508
00:37:22.519 --> 00:37:28.199
know that the coaching staff or even
sometimes a GM would would just call on

509
00:37:28.280 --> 00:37:32.440
information or call on a conversation to
see what different players thought about a certain

510
00:37:32.480 --> 00:37:37.199
move that they were going to make, especially if it involved you know,

511
00:37:37.119 --> 00:37:42.280
rotation or something on the court.
Of course, you want your players involved

512
00:37:42.280 --> 00:37:45.480
in that, especially your your superstar
guys. So what are you talking about?

513
00:37:45.519 --> 00:37:49.719
It is coming coming from a coming
from somebody who knows a lot more

514
00:37:49.760 --> 00:37:52.239
about things like that than I do. Why do you want to make something

515
00:37:52.239 --> 00:37:53.760
out of it? For it?
No, I'm not making anything out of

516
00:37:53.800 --> 00:38:00.559
it. I actually liked it.
Yeah, yeah, you can't make of

517
00:38:00.559 --> 00:38:04.519
this though, take up this this
whole talk and we said this, We've

518
00:38:04.519 --> 00:38:07.320
been talking about this a little bit. But Darvinham coming coming under fire now.

519
00:38:07.599 --> 00:38:10.000
I mean they just won the nd
season tournament, I know, but

520
00:38:10.280 --> 00:38:13.239
want to poo pull it, but
they had a nice run to do that.

521
00:38:13.480 --> 00:38:16.599
They've they've kind of struggled a bit
since then, a lot of bit,

522
00:38:16.679 --> 00:38:21.880
I should say since then. But
the call for the man job or

523
00:38:21.880 --> 00:38:24.480
he should be fired or be on
the hot seat, to me is ridiculous.

524
00:38:24.519 --> 00:38:29.760
What are your thoughts, Listen,
It's just it's it's just what comes

525
00:38:29.760 --> 00:38:32.119
with, you know, being the
head coach of you know, the best

526
00:38:32.159 --> 00:38:36.920
brand in the world. Right there's
always going to be pressure with it.

527
00:38:37.119 --> 00:38:39.800
What occurs outside, you know,
when we're talking about it on the radio

528
00:38:40.159 --> 00:38:45.880
or when someone's giving a comment to
it on TVs obviously somewhat different than what's

529
00:38:45.880 --> 00:38:49.599
going on inside the organization. I
like the fact that you know, Darvinham

530
00:38:49.679 --> 00:38:53.000
is focused. You know, obviously
he has said and so has the Lakers

531
00:38:53.039 --> 00:38:58.000
brass that they have confidence in what
he's doing. And you know, one

532
00:38:58.039 --> 00:39:00.559
of the best things that's come out
in the past few week so that we

533
00:39:00.639 --> 00:39:02.519
finally beat the Clippers, and I
was at the game and it was a

534
00:39:02.519 --> 00:39:06.800
great game, and uh, you
know, you're hoping that they're going to

535
00:39:06.840 --> 00:39:09.760
be able to parlay that and a
couple of other more wins before you go

536
00:39:09.800 --> 00:39:13.800
into the All Star break and you
just kind of get back on track.

537
00:39:13.920 --> 00:39:17.039
I think that's what's most important right
now. Jacob I know you're the likeer

538
00:39:17.119 --> 00:39:21.480
guy, but you were at that
game and you watched it. Could you

539
00:39:21.480 --> 00:39:27.119
believe they took Kawhi Leonard out at
the end of the game. I'm not

540
00:39:27.199 --> 00:39:32.559
authorized to say anything about what the
Clippers do. Wow, I like the

541
00:39:32.639 --> 00:39:40.039
result, that's all that matters.
And I like that dunk the lebron hadge.

542
00:39:42.559 --> 00:39:47.440
Yes, it's just incredible to see
this this this man and how you

543
00:39:47.480 --> 00:39:52.880
know he just continues to excel himself
and now that was just a beautiful thing.

544
00:39:53.599 --> 00:39:57.400
Jacob Our listeners love when you offer
advice. I want to ask you

545
00:39:57.400 --> 00:39:59.960
a question. If you're injured in
an accident, you hire an turn,

546
00:40:00.920 --> 00:40:04.599
you want to receive updates. At
least I would, But sadly that's not

547
00:40:04.639 --> 00:40:07.079
always the case, is it.
Well, it's not the case, and

548
00:40:07.119 --> 00:40:10.119
I think it's important. You know, obviously, I have a lot of

549
00:40:10.119 --> 00:40:15.039
colleagues that are in my industry law
that are very good at what they do.

550
00:40:15.400 --> 00:40:17.599
But you know, just like in
any industry, you have people that

551
00:40:17.639 --> 00:40:21.280
are good at what they do,
you also have the opposite. And I

552
00:40:21.320 --> 00:40:25.039
think it's important for our listeners to
understand what their rights are and to not

553
00:40:25.199 --> 00:40:30.079
feel like they're asking for too much
and often when people come to my office

554
00:40:30.320 --> 00:40:34.519
for a you know, free second
opinion for me or my team to look

555
00:40:34.599 --> 00:40:38.719
over a current case that's going on, the first complaint is I've never spoken

556
00:40:38.760 --> 00:40:43.800
to my attorney, or I've never
met with my attorney, or even worse

557
00:40:43.840 --> 00:40:45.719
than that, when I called to
talk to my attorney, somebody else is

558
00:40:45.760 --> 00:40:50.199
only giving me updates. And I
think what I kind of want to do

559
00:40:50.280 --> 00:40:52.960
is make sure that you know,
as a consumer, as a client,

560
00:40:52.119 --> 00:40:57.039
you understand that, you know,
when you hire our firm, when you

561
00:40:57.159 --> 00:41:00.119
hire an attorney, you're hiring the
attorney. You're not hiring the employees.

562
00:41:00.320 --> 00:41:05.000
Obviously. You know, we have
over one hundred and you know, thirty

563
00:41:05.000 --> 00:41:08.079
forty people that work at our firm, and they're very integral in the final

564
00:41:08.199 --> 00:41:13.360
result of what we do. But
the representation comes from the attorney. And

565
00:41:13.480 --> 00:41:15.480
anytime, you know, even when
I'm in an you know, out of

566
00:41:15.519 --> 00:41:20.119
the office, I'm in a deposition
today, when a client wants to reach

567
00:41:20.199 --> 00:41:22.719
me, they text me. When
the client wants to reach me, I

568
00:41:22.760 --> 00:41:25.719
make myself available to them, you
know, within a matter of reasonable time

569
00:41:25.800 --> 00:41:30.400
so I can answer their question.
You know, many people who come to

570
00:41:30.400 --> 00:41:35.760
me for a second opinion say that
they feel like they're asking for too much

571
00:41:35.800 --> 00:41:37.480
when they ask to talk to their
attorneys. And I want you to know

572
00:41:38.119 --> 00:41:42.639
that that is a right that you
have. That is a right that you

573
00:41:42.719 --> 00:41:45.679
should exercise. And if you're not
getting that right, then you may not

574
00:41:45.800 --> 00:41:50.119
be in with the right firm and
you should look at your other options.

575
00:41:51.679 --> 00:41:57.280
Makes sense to me, absolutely,
absolutely, all right, Jacob knowledge.

576
00:41:57.320 --> 00:42:00.440
Guys. We got to give knowledge
knowledge around all day. That's right,

577
00:42:00.480 --> 00:42:04.000
twenty twenty four. We got to
throw it around knowledge, all right,

578
00:42:04.320 --> 00:42:07.480
all right, will you be you
be spitting knowledge? Oh no, no,

579
00:42:07.480 --> 00:42:09.400
no, no, no, no, no no. Stay in your

580
00:42:09.480 --> 00:42:14.000
lane is twenty twenty four to two. Stay in your lane. Friend,

581
00:42:14.079 --> 00:42:16.000
My bad, My bad, my
bad, friend, Jacob. Thanks,

582
00:42:16.000 --> 00:42:20.599
great talking to you. Thanks guys, have a good day, you too.

583
00:42:21.079 --> 00:42:22.559
Okay, next hour, right at
the top of the hour, David

584
00:42:22.639 --> 00:42:27.360
Vasel, jump on, let's talk
about the villains and maybe take some calls

585
00:42:27.360 --> 00:42:30.880
on that later on in the hour. Also, Rodney, I found something

586
00:42:30.920 --> 00:42:32.800
on TikTok. Oh. Of course
you did, yeah, because you know

587
00:42:32.840 --> 00:42:37.480
I'm very much in tune with TikTok. Yes you are. And anyway,

588
00:42:37.639 --> 00:42:44.519
uh, someone did a parody about
Matt Stafford, Matthew Stafford, Okay,

589
00:42:44.599 --> 00:42:46.159
as they get ready to go back
to Detroit, So we're gonna play that too,