WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.600 --> 00:00:03.919 This is Gary and Shannon, and you're listening to KFI AM six forty, 2 00:00:03.960 --> 00:00:08.080 the Gary and Shannon Show on demand on the iHeartRadio app. In nineteen eighty 3 00:00:08.119 --> 00:00:10.960 three, I was three years old. Well, you didn't know anything. 4 00:00:11.039 --> 00:00:15.919 I was living my best life. Well listen, I'm lucky. My wife 5 00:00:16.000 --> 00:00:20.640 got on an airplane today, zero problem. But there are tens of thousands 6 00:00:20.679 --> 00:00:25.039 of people who did not got on airplanes, at least not yet today because 7 00:00:25.039 --> 00:00:30.280 of this massive outage, this global IT outage link to CrowdStrike, software, 8 00:00:30.359 --> 00:00:34.439 healthcare, business, transportation. And I saw broadcasters thrown in there. I 9 00:00:34.719 --> 00:00:37.520 figured that out yet. Mark Saltzman, of course, is our go to 10 00:00:37.679 --> 00:00:43.000 guy for everything IT and tech, and Mark, what do you know? 11 00:00:44.399 --> 00:00:52.719 Well, I heard Biden tripped over a power cable. Sorry, couldn't resist. 12 00:00:53.479 --> 00:00:58.600 Yeah, this was take the Bully's down. Literally, poor got COVID. 13 00:00:58.759 --> 00:01:02.240 He doesn't know where he is. Oh my gosh. Anyways, yea, 14 00:01:03.280 --> 00:01:07.760 his grandson to him the reboot reboot. Did you try? Did you 15 00:01:07.799 --> 00:01:11.200 try to unplug and plug it back in again? No? Not that one. 16 00:01:11.599 --> 00:01:17.959 Uh yes, so there's no laughing matter. Apparently crowds strike. This 17 00:01:18.000 --> 00:01:23.000 has got to be what they're saying. Is the largest global IT outage in 18 00:01:23.120 --> 00:01:26.239 history, which is we're not quite out of the woods yet, but a 19 00:01:26.239 --> 00:01:30.000 lot of it was fixed already. So CrowdStrike is a company based in Austin. 20 00:01:30.079 --> 00:01:34.680 They're a cybersecurity company that is used by more than half of the world's 21 00:01:34.719 --> 00:01:38.840 Fortune five hundred companies, as well as government agencies that run Microsoft computers. 22 00:01:40.239 --> 00:01:42.840 And so this was a software glitch. It was an update that went wrong. 23 00:01:42.920 --> 00:01:49.239 It's they're what's called Falcon Sensor software that had a glitch in the update 24 00:01:49.079 --> 00:01:53.879 process, which again controls all of these retailers. As you mentioned, Gary 25 00:01:53.920 --> 00:01:59.840 and Shannon, the these banks, McDonald's shutdown in Japan. Sky News went 26 00:01:59.840 --> 00:02:02.599 off the year in the UK. What happened was they saw a blue screen 27 00:02:02.640 --> 00:02:06.719 of death. Remember that, like it's Windows ninety five all over again. 28 00:02:06.760 --> 00:02:09.039 I know, Shannon, you were saying, it's not nineteen eighty three was 29 00:02:09.159 --> 00:02:13.360 a nicer time, but nobody misses that blue screen of death. Ten years 30 00:02:13.400 --> 00:02:16.120 later, well here we are, so yeah. So as a result, 31 00:02:16.199 --> 00:02:21.719 now the domino effect is that there are thousands and thousands of people who fly 32 00:02:21.800 --> 00:02:27.520 American United in Delta whose flights were either canceled or delayed. And now you 33 00:02:27.520 --> 00:02:30.599 know, just picking up the pieces. So it's gonna be a while. 34 00:02:30.199 --> 00:02:36.240 And some companies are told their computers have been or will be fixed automatically. 35 00:02:36.319 --> 00:02:40.280 Others require a manual update to do it. Not fun, but just shows 36 00:02:40.280 --> 00:02:46.439 our vulnerability in the digital age, like how reliant we are on this and 37 00:02:46.599 --> 00:02:51.759 how interconnected we are internationally. I mean, this was not an America's centric 38 00:02:51.840 --> 00:02:54.960 thing. Yeah, people in New Zealand and Australia couldn't take money out of 39 00:02:55.000 --> 00:03:00.240 their bank account like the ATMs as I mentioned McDonald's and take They couldn't process 40 00:03:00.240 --> 00:03:05.120 payments, so they shut their doors. The London Stock Exchange had disruptions. 41 00:03:06.120 --> 00:03:09.159 Flight flights across Europe were frozen as well. So this this is a huge 42 00:03:09.240 --> 00:03:14.520 Yeah, we're all interconnected. And again you know, so one number one, 43 00:03:15.080 --> 00:03:17.879 there should be safeguards in place for this not to happen. Again, 44 00:03:19.319 --> 00:03:23.680 it's called redundancies where you have more than one or more than a dozen servers 45 00:03:23.680 --> 00:03:29.280 around the world that can offset any issues that's detected on one or two of 46 00:03:29.319 --> 00:03:31.000 them, and just and so you're none the wiser. It's just all happening 47 00:03:31.039 --> 00:03:35.000 in the background. And secondly, you know, when it comes to cyber 48 00:03:35.039 --> 00:03:38.680 warfare, right, I mean, if it's that easy, you know, 49 00:03:38.719 --> 00:03:43.280 for something like this to happen. You know, these nefarious nations out there 50 00:03:43.319 --> 00:03:46.000 are they're they're taking notice. They know that this is in their arsenal. 51 00:03:46.080 --> 00:03:47.360 Should they want to do something? Yeah, they were quick to say it 52 00:03:47.400 --> 00:03:53.599 was not a security incident or cyber attack. But what what are we more 53 00:03:53.639 --> 00:03:59.759 susceptible to just ineptitude and failure when it comes to a technical issue or cyber 54 00:03:59.759 --> 00:04:02.680 attach, security incident? Yeah, all the above. You know, we're 55 00:04:02.719 --> 00:04:08.080 just so reliant on you know, whether it's your telcom company or again, 56 00:04:08.159 --> 00:04:13.439 banks, retail stores, media companies like TV and radio networks, airlines were 57 00:04:13.479 --> 00:04:16.120 all connected. It's all run by computers. A lot of it is automated. 58 00:04:16.439 --> 00:04:21.199 But you would think that having redundancies built in so that you know, 59 00:04:21.240 --> 00:04:25.839 you've got those safeguards in place, coupled with AI, maybe that can help 60 00:04:25.920 --> 00:04:30.879 us predict something is going to happen. So, for example, CrowdStrike knows 61 00:04:30.920 --> 00:04:34.040 there's a massive software update that's coming, right, they know that this Falcon 62 00:04:34.079 --> 00:04:39.920 sensor software needs an update, you know, on early Friday morning of July 63 00:04:40.040 --> 00:04:44.199 the nineteenth. Just make sure using artificial intelligence to just dot all the i's 64 00:04:44.240 --> 00:04:46.800 and cross the t's to make sure that it's going to be smooth and there's 65 00:04:46.839 --> 00:04:50.639 no impact on anything. And if there is, then just mitigate that by 66 00:04:50.839 --> 00:04:54.879 by having other servers handle the you know, at the risk of sounding too 67 00:04:54.920 --> 00:04:59.040 geeky, there's always an answer, but there we are more vulnerable, is 68 00:04:59.079 --> 00:05:03.920 the bottom line, vulnerable as the ear is vulnerable to a bleeding attack. 69 00:05:04.160 --> 00:05:09.360 Yes, a lot of blood, a lot of blood. Mark, Thank 70 00:05:09.399 --> 00:05:11.800 you for taking time for us on a Friday. It's nice to talk to 71 00:05:11.800 --> 00:05:14.839 you. Likewise, Thanks everybody, and I hope your wife gets home, 72 00:05:15.319 --> 00:05:17.759 your partner gets home smoothly, well, she will be great. Thank you. 73 00:05:17.800 --> 00:05:24.319 All right. Follow Mark on Twitter MRC Underscore Saltsman and we'll bring you 74 00:05:24.399 --> 00:05:27.759 updates as far as we know in terms of what's the latest on all this. 75 00:05:27.800 --> 00:05:30.480 We did find out that some emergency call systems, like nine to one 76 00:05:30.519 --> 00:05:34.079 to one systems in at least three states were hit. Oregon is one of 77 00:05:34.120 --> 00:05:39.560 them. Hospitals, airports, public safety, and emergency management agencies had major 78 00:05:39.560 --> 00:05:44.839 effects up there, and the La County Superior Court System said they are experiencing 79 00:05:44.879 --> 00:05:48.680 system wide connectivity issues. Well, they don't even work anymore. Right wells 80 00:05:48.720 --> 00:05:53.120 to court in La County. They said any business where people were set to 81 00:05:53.160 --> 00:05:58.160 appear remotely on Friday that's today would be rescheduled, according to the La County 82 00:05:58.199 --> 00:06:03.399 Superior Courts. Are we even on the air? Hello? Hello, Gary 83 00:06:03.399 --> 00:06:08.000 and Shannon will continue? Maybe I don't know. Ul Cogan took the stage 84 00:06:08.040 --> 00:06:13.720 last night and they tried to kill the next president of the United States. 85 00:06:15.160 --> 00:06:25.040 Enough was enough? Yeh sad Lohmendia run wild brother h trapamania r again? 86 00:06:25.519 --> 00:06:30.839 What trapamania? Nke la right again? He looks the same is when I 87 00:06:31.000 --> 00:06:35.000 was six years old, Like, wow, what does whole Colgan do? 88 00:06:35.120 --> 00:06:39.160 What is his skincare routine? I don't know about this skid, but the 89 00:06:39.439 --> 00:06:45.680 shoulders and the everything looks nineteen eighty six. Yeah, his his was a 90 00:06:45.839 --> 00:06:48.519 fun speech. I'll tell you that. I had fun watching his speech. 91 00:06:49.720 --> 00:06:54.759 I missed that one. I was going back and forth between the convention and 92 00:06:54.800 --> 00:06:59.639 the Real Housewives of Orange County. Similar experiences with both of them. Uh 93 00:07:00.759 --> 00:07:03.560 you mean because they were the same thing. This ridiculousness that part of it. 94 00:07:03.720 --> 00:07:08.959 Yes, So I'll a bunch of old people acting like there on spring 95 00:07:09.120 --> 00:07:15.279 break at South Padre Island. There was a I went into last night hopeful. 96 00:07:15.319 --> 00:07:20.040 I think I said it yesterday. I think that Trump had an opportunity 97 00:07:20.759 --> 00:07:26.720 to really be different last night. And but my fear was he was just 98 00:07:26.839 --> 00:07:30.800 going to succumb to the moment. He was going to succumb to the crowd. 99 00:07:30.920 --> 00:07:34.199 He was going to succumb to his normal patterns and habits of speaking off, 100 00:07:34.920 --> 00:07:39.240 you know, off the cuff. I was in it for the first 101 00:07:39.319 --> 00:07:42.759 few minutes when he said, listen, I'm gonna tell you the story about 102 00:07:42.759 --> 00:07:45.319 what happened on Saturday, But I'm only gonna tell it once because I don't 103 00:07:45.399 --> 00:07:49.199 like that. As you already know, the assassin's bullet came within a quarter 104 00:07:49.199 --> 00:07:55.199 of an inch of taking my life. So many people have asked me what 105 00:07:55.399 --> 00:08:00.560 happened, tell us what happened, please, And therefore I I'll tell you 106 00:08:00.920 --> 00:08:05.920 exactly what happened, and you'll never hear it from me a second time because 107 00:08:05.959 --> 00:08:11.120 it's actually too painful to tell. There's no way he does not talk about 108 00:08:11.160 --> 00:08:13.759 this again. Oh he will, because he's going to be asked about He's 109 00:08:13.759 --> 00:08:18.319 going to have a book. For books. He talked about the moments where 110 00:08:18.759 --> 00:08:24.160 the Secret servi the Secret Service had put him on the ground, covered him, 111 00:08:24.199 --> 00:08:26.879 and he thanked the agents by the way for their quick reactions to what 112 00:08:28.040 --> 00:08:33.120 was going on, and said that he had to show the people who all 113 00:08:33.200 --> 00:08:35.799 thought he died, that he was okay. This beautiful crowd they didn't want 114 00:08:35.840 --> 00:08:39.679 to leave me. They knew I was in trouble, wanted to do something 115 00:08:39.759 --> 00:08:43.840 to let him know I was okay. I raised my right arm, looked 116 00:08:43.879 --> 00:08:50.240 at the thousands and thousands of people that were breathlessly waiting, and started shouting 117 00:08:50.559 --> 00:08:54.480 fight, fight, fight, Okay, now this again. This. I'm 118 00:08:54.519 --> 00:08:58.200 still in it because I watched it. I saw what happened. We've all 119 00:08:58.279 --> 00:09:03.120 seen the video multiple times. Let no crisis go unused. Every speaker that 120 00:09:03.159 --> 00:09:07.639 I've seen at this convention has gone through blow by blow what happened on Saturday. 121 00:09:07.759 --> 00:09:11.799 Yeah, and I think it's more moving, which is fine. I 122 00:09:11.879 --> 00:09:16.600 think it's more moving when he says it. But it didn't take long for 123 00:09:16.679 --> 00:09:18.840 him to lose me, and I mean like quickly, yeah, me too. 124 00:09:20.279 --> 00:09:24.960 It went on for too long. Gary, She's absolutely correct. My 125 00:09:24.120 --> 00:09:28.519 husband and I thought that while we were watching it last night, we thought, 126 00:09:28.559 --> 00:09:33.279 I wonder how much Metallica is making off of this, Right now we 127 00:09:33.360 --> 00:09:37.799 were talking about the dance video also that the party put together and showed at 128 00:09:37.799 --> 00:09:43.840 the convention. I'd love to see you tube left footed assn dance. So 129 00:09:43.440 --> 00:09:50.639 the dude seventy eight years old kind of a break. We're actually really good 130 00:09:50.759 --> 00:09:58.279 dancers. It was on display in Philadelphia at that gay bar. Wait have 131 00:09:58.320 --> 00:10:01.559 prop me up, Hey, Gary and Shannon. This is Rick and Clark 132 00:10:01.600 --> 00:10:03.720 Show Tennessee. And I just wanted to let you know. I watched the 133 00:10:03.840 --> 00:10:09.039 R and C last night and I was pretty excited about what Trump was saying. 134 00:10:09.879 --> 00:10:13.639 He never lost me or anything. I was interested in every point he 135 00:10:13.759 --> 00:10:16.679 was making because I wanted to know what he was going to be standing for. 136 00:10:16.200 --> 00:10:20.720 And even only start out bostile, he really ended up strong. And 137 00:10:20.840 --> 00:10:24.840 then I couldn't help but think that Biden would have made it through about five 138 00:10:24.919 --> 00:10:28.799 minutes. I agree with that, but what is there was nothing new? 139 00:10:28.039 --> 00:10:33.120 That's also part of it is ninety minutes. I could I could stand ninety 140 00:10:33.200 --> 00:10:39.799 minutes if there was anything new. What I wanted him to do was focus. 141 00:10:39.919 --> 00:10:41.360 I thought it would have gone a long way. And who cares what 142 00:10:41.480 --> 00:10:45.440 I think, but I think it would have gone a long way if he 143 00:10:46.440 --> 00:10:52.360 didn't talk about himself as much and focused on things like grocery prices up fifty 144 00:10:52.399 --> 00:10:58.000 four percent, that needed more time, that needed four paragraphs, that didn't 145 00:10:58.039 --> 00:11:01.559 need just one half of a sentence, that needed a chunk of that speech, 146 00:11:01.679 --> 00:11:05.480 because that is what our experience is. That rings true for me. 147 00:11:05.879 --> 00:11:11.200 I do the grocery shopping. I see how crazy it is out there to 148 00:11:11.320 --> 00:11:16.360 buy chicken, well, chicken's like eighteen dollars. What are we doing? 149 00:11:16.480 --> 00:11:18.240 One of the things that I thought of while he was doing that was could 150 00:11:18.279 --> 00:11:24.120 he could he do that same message? Right, let's assume that. Could 151 00:11:24.159 --> 00:11:28.600 he talk about his plans for the future, his plans to change things in 152 00:11:28.679 --> 00:11:31.799 the country, put us on the right path, whatever terms he wants to 153 00:11:31.879 --> 00:11:37.759 use. Could he do that without mentioning Joe Biden? Because and I don't 154 00:11:37.799 --> 00:11:41.679 know, listen, people are going to say it's Joe Biden's fault, and 155 00:11:41.759 --> 00:11:46.600 that's fine, okay, But could you do it without mentioning your opponent and 156 00:11:46.759 --> 00:11:50.240 just say, listen, we're all in this together, We're all Americans. 157 00:11:50.240 --> 00:11:52.559 And he did. He did say that, and he talked about the unity 158 00:11:52.600 --> 00:11:58.720 being an important aspect moving forward, and that basically the way We're going to 159 00:11:58.440 --> 00:12:03.279 make sure that everybody is taken care of. Is through our success that that 160 00:12:03.720 --> 00:12:07.000 that message I think rings true for me. But the idea that you have 161 00:12:07.240 --> 00:12:09.879 to do it by denigrating the other guy. This was an opportunity, I 162 00:12:09.919 --> 00:12:15.279 think for him to rise above what has become a trope when it comes to 163 00:12:15.360 --> 00:12:18.519 politics. Why would do you expect him to rise above? Because everybody said 164 00:12:18.600 --> 00:12:20.919 that this was going to be a new Donald Trump, that it was going 165 00:12:20.960 --> 00:12:24.840 to be a different that what we saw on Saturday. I mean, and 166 00:12:24.919 --> 00:12:28.120 that's it was a more subdued to Donald Trump, very much so. But 167 00:12:28.240 --> 00:12:33.039 it's the same guy. You don't change your stripes that far into life. 168 00:12:33.279 --> 00:12:37.759 This was where and it was early on again I was I was pretty riveted 169 00:12:37.879 --> 00:12:41.879 by his first hand account of what was going on on Saturday. But then 170 00:12:41.960 --> 00:12:48.279 he went off script. They saw the blood and thought, actually most did 171 00:12:50.120 --> 00:12:52.600 that I was dead. They know it was a shot to the head. 172 00:12:52.840 --> 00:12:58.840 They saw the blood and there's an interesting statistic. The ears or the bloody 173 00:12:58.879 --> 00:13:03.639 is part if something happens with the years, they bleed more than any other 174 00:13:03.720 --> 00:13:07.320 part. He switched back to the house and the doctors told me that, 175 00:13:07.559 --> 00:13:09.159 I said, why is this so much blood, he said, it's the 176 00:13:09.240 --> 00:13:16.159 years they bleed more. So we learned something, but they just we learned 177 00:13:16.240 --> 00:13:18.840 something. That was a part where I was like, well, and it 178 00:13:18.960 --> 00:13:22.720 was funny how I think. Elix Michaelson on Fox eleven was there and he 179 00:13:22.840 --> 00:13:26.960 had a view of the teleprompter. There was also Phil Maddingly I believe for 180 00:13:28.080 --> 00:13:31.879 CNN, talked about they he had a view of the teleprompter while Trump was 181 00:13:31.919 --> 00:13:35.120 speaking, and both of them referred to how many times he went off script. 182 00:13:35.240 --> 00:13:37.919 Again, we know that, we know that's how he does it, 183 00:13:39.279 --> 00:13:41.720 but he did not need to go for ninety minutes. Gary, What you 184 00:13:41.840 --> 00:13:46.639 are something else? Thank you? You're very predictable too. Oh you want 185 00:13:46.679 --> 00:13:54.440 to be a boy? What but you not? Oh? I wanted he 186 00:13:54.840 --> 00:13:56.360 is? Oh you had me, Oh you had me? Oh you lost 187 00:13:56.399 --> 00:14:01.679 me. You're such a chick. That's a chick thing. Wow, you 188 00:14:01.759 --> 00:14:05.279 want to be a boy? Are you freaking Peter Pan? Why can't I 189 00:14:05.399 --> 00:14:09.519 want something better out of a politician? What I want? Yeah? The 190 00:14:09.600 --> 00:14:13.039 bar is very low, That's what I want. I was gonna say, 191 00:14:13.159 --> 00:14:16.879 we are at a peak political disarray or not? Maybe you guys, we 192 00:14:18.039 --> 00:14:22.320 are in for a ride. I mean, we haven't even gotten to the 193 00:14:22.440 --> 00:14:28.519 report that came out yesterday that Biden has already agreed to step down out of 194 00:14:28.559 --> 00:14:33.240 the campaign. I don't think he gives up the office, but he gives 195 00:14:33.320 --> 00:14:35.720 up the campaign. All right? When does that hit? What does that 196 00:14:35.799 --> 00:14:39.879 look like? And also who's polling better? When it comes to beating Donald 197 00:14:39.919 --> 00:14:45.759 Trump? There is a Democrat that is polling to beat Donald Trump. Should 198 00:14:45.799 --> 00:14:50.559 he be the candidate? Dean Phillips, No, I don't know, Saninfarion 199 00:14:50.960 --> 00:14:56.559 and Edy Gary, Hey, it's right, yes, we got nothing you 200 00:14:56.720 --> 00:15:03.879 do gonna get Yeah, just kidding. I don't even drink. But anyways, 201 00:15:03.600 --> 00:15:09.480 love you guys, man love looking for for this show. I'm looking 202 00:15:09.559 --> 00:15:13.679 for for swamp. Watch watch what watch the extended version of it? We 203 00:15:13.840 --> 00:15:18.639 love you, Yeah, we do. It's feedback Friday. There is a 204 00:15:18.039 --> 00:15:24.039 widespread technology outage that hit the world overnight our time. Huge shout out to 205 00:15:24.159 --> 00:15:30.559 Will Cole Schreiber who nailed it. When it comes to lax, always go 206 00:15:30.639 --> 00:15:35.399 to the arrivals, never go to the departures. That is key. And 207 00:15:35.480 --> 00:15:39.879 if you can go to burbanks Oli Ria, here's the order of the way 208 00:15:39.960 --> 00:15:46.440 you should attack. Leaving from lax. Yeah, go to the arrivals or 209 00:15:46.559 --> 00:15:50.639 go to a different airport exactly. Healthcare staff and patients also have been documenting 210 00:15:50.679 --> 00:15:54.519 the chaos inside some hospitals. There was a TikTok video this woman, a 211 00:15:54.559 --> 00:15:58.440 woman in a breathing mask, said that her electronic medical records couldn't be accessed. 212 00:16:00.120 --> 00:16:04.279 She wasn't able to get the correct medications. Staff were heard shouting panicked 213 00:16:04.360 --> 00:16:07.639 voices. The camera pans to a computer that's been knocked offline and showed that 214 00:16:07.759 --> 00:16:12.120 blue screen of death that Mark Saltzman referred to. A nurse here in California 215 00:16:12.240 --> 00:16:15.879 was detailing how staff have had to revert to pen and paper using iPhones to 216 00:16:15.960 --> 00:16:19.320 treat patients prescribe drugs. My wife works at a hospital. She got a 217 00:16:19.360 --> 00:16:22.799 message on her phone overnight which was basically, here's how we're going to do 218 00:16:22.879 --> 00:16:26.440 it, because we don't know if our computer systems are going to last or 219 00:16:26.559 --> 00:16:29.559 what they're going to look like once you get in on your shift. She 220 00:16:29.600 --> 00:16:32.879 didn't have to go to work today, thankfully. But we'll talk a little 221 00:16:32.879 --> 00:16:34.720 bit more about President Biden here, But I wanted to get through some of 222 00:16:34.799 --> 00:16:41.039 these comments real quickly on former President Trump's speech last night at the RNC Gary. 223 00:16:41.159 --> 00:16:45.240 Yeah, you're right that we've all heard this stuff before from Trump. 224 00:16:45.639 --> 00:16:48.559 But the reason that he's being redundant and there's a lot of people that really 225 00:16:48.600 --> 00:16:52.879 didn't tune into him or listen to him before this, so he's got quite 226 00:16:52.919 --> 00:16:57.840 a few new listeners and the newer audience that he's reiterating some of the things 227 00:16:57.919 --> 00:17:02.159 they probably did not here in the past. So I think that was the 228 00:17:02.240 --> 00:17:04.160 intent behind, you know, the redundancy. And I will say this, 229 00:17:04.519 --> 00:17:11.400 Listen, we do this as part of our job, so we probably ingest 230 00:17:12.359 --> 00:17:18.359 speeches and conventions and politics and stuff like that more than the average person. 231 00:17:18.480 --> 00:17:22.839 So that's why I said he didn't say anything new. I've at least heard 232 00:17:22.880 --> 00:17:25.759 it all before, so I'll at least concede that there are people who may 233 00:17:25.799 --> 00:17:29.640 have tuned in last night who don't. They don't hear him at the rallies, 234 00:17:29.680 --> 00:17:32.200 they don't hear the speeches that he gives on a regular basis, so 235 00:17:32.599 --> 00:17:36.400 maybe that some of that was new to them. But ninety minutes come on. 236 00:17:36.480 --> 00:17:38.480 And also the kissing of the helmet, can we talk about that? 237 00:17:38.920 --> 00:17:42.799 Well, that was over the top. I don't know how you do that 238 00:17:44.000 --> 00:17:47.359 well, I mean I thought about that, I thought about you didn't talk 239 00:17:47.400 --> 00:17:51.640 a better way to do it. But yeah, not kissing the weird helmet 240 00:17:51.680 --> 00:17:56.680 with the uniform on the stage. Just pay tribute to the man's life and 241 00:17:56.799 --> 00:18:00.160 point to it. I mean acknowledge that the that the it's there. He 242 00:18:00.279 --> 00:18:04.480 lost his life selflessly acting as a human shield to protect them from flying. 243 00:18:04.559 --> 00:18:08.799 But let's see what right over the top of them and was hit. A 244 00:18:08.920 --> 00:18:15.920 fine man he was. I gotta tell you that was a powerful image to 245 00:18:17.039 --> 00:18:19.799 see that on the stage today. By the way, is when the big 246 00:18:21.160 --> 00:18:26.680 funeral is for Corey Competori the compare it or I think he's how you say 247 00:18:26.720 --> 00:18:30.200 his name, the firefighter who was killed at that rally. So a couple 248 00:18:30.240 --> 00:18:33.559 other comments, Hey, Gary and Channon. I was also listening to the 249 00:18:33.720 --> 00:18:38.440 RNC last night and I'm a moderate, so I'm listening to to see what 250 00:18:38.559 --> 00:18:42.039 Trump has to say and just can't I can't help it. This guy is 251 00:18:42.599 --> 00:18:48.000 embellishing everything he is the world. That's what he does best. Salesman, 252 00:18:48.519 --> 00:18:52.880 literally hands down, one of the best salesmens. Now what he does and 253 00:18:52.920 --> 00:18:56.359 what he says is totally different. But you know, between him and Joe 254 00:18:56.400 --> 00:19:00.440 Biden. I don't really have good choices here. Well, listen that Biden 255 00:19:00.519 --> 00:19:06.759 thing made by Monday. Biden may not be the choice. The other choice, 256 00:19:06.799 --> 00:19:08.680 I should say. We have got to get to that convention. We 257 00:19:08.759 --> 00:19:12.359 have got to because if this is a contested convention, if it's an open 258 00:19:12.480 --> 00:19:18.200 convention, it is going to be chaos with Democrats just eating each other. 259 00:19:18.359 --> 00:19:22.640 Yeah, it's going to be wild. This morning, his campaign chair Jen 260 00:19:22.880 --> 00:19:30.400 O'Malley Dylan went on MSNBC's Morning Joe said President Biden is absolutely staying in the 261 00:19:30.440 --> 00:19:36.359 presidential race. Everyone who says that right now should be put in the closet 262 00:19:36.480 --> 00:19:40.200 with Debbie Wasserman. Look, absolutely the presidents in this race. You've heard 263 00:19:40.279 --> 00:19:42.880 him say that time and time again, and I think we saw on display 264 00:19:44.000 --> 00:19:48.640 last night exactly why. Because Donald Trump is not going to offer anything new 265 00:19:48.680 --> 00:19:52.359 to the American people. He's the same person he was in twenty twenty. 266 00:19:52.440 --> 00:19:55.279 He's the same person he was at the debate stage. He's the same person 267 00:19:55.359 --> 00:19:59.559 he is that is about himself and out of okay, I mean okay, 268 00:20:00.319 --> 00:20:04.759 on and on, and Biden is hanging on by a thread to think that 269 00:20:04.920 --> 00:20:11.559 he has the ability to continue with this campaign, let alone serve for four 270 00:20:11.720 --> 00:20:17.799 years is asinine, and it's disrespectful to people that have watched all the interviews 271 00:20:17.839 --> 00:20:22.440 and watch the debate and realize, because we have all had experience with aging 272 00:20:22.559 --> 00:20:29.720 relatives, exactly what's going on. You're basically just lying to people repeatedly when 273 00:20:29.799 --> 00:20:32.759 we know what our eyes see. And I feel like we're coming off of 274 00:20:32.839 --> 00:20:37.839 a time when there has been that awakening of wait a minute, that the 275 00:20:37.960 --> 00:20:42.319 major networks have been telling us everything's fine, and that it's a right wing 276 00:20:42.799 --> 00:20:48.279 plot to discredit this president's editing testing or that it's editing, or that it's 277 00:20:48.400 --> 00:20:52.480 cheap fakes, or that it's and when they realize, wait a minute, 278 00:20:52.680 --> 00:20:57.160 I am seeing what I'm seeing. I can trust my own eyes about what 279 00:20:57.559 --> 00:21:03.440 actually happened. Well, as the RNC was unfolding and closing up last night, 280 00:21:03.519 --> 00:21:07.119 the reports were everywhere from Biden to when we opined about it yesterday, 281 00:21:07.519 --> 00:21:12.960 that Biden decided last week to get out of the race and that the machinations 282 00:21:14.000 --> 00:21:17.039 are just getting started. In terms of what that would look like, what 283 00:21:17.200 --> 00:21:19.960 that means, what does it mean for Kamala. There was a report that 284 00:21:21.240 --> 00:21:26.519 it would be an open convention, that Kamala would not automatically get the nod, 285 00:21:26.960 --> 00:21:30.319 that it could be four other people or three other people with Kamala. 286 00:21:30.680 --> 00:21:33.559 We've heard about people that say they will not run with her anyway. We'll 287 00:21:33.599 --> 00:21:37.559 break it all down coming up next. Whoa wait? I got one more? 288 00:21:37.759 --> 00:21:42.559 Oh. This was a follow up to an earlier comment, Wow, 289 00:21:45.079 --> 00:21:51.880 the Sherry and Shannon Show, the lunch ladies and Sherry, you're a whack 290 00:21:52.000 --> 00:21:55.839 job. Please. I have zero problem with you calling me Sherry, but 291 00:21:56.599 --> 00:22:00.920 show your math. Do explain? What is the lunch ladies reference? I 292 00:22:00.000 --> 00:22:06.200 don't know that we're two ladies at lunch. I suppose I guess, well, 293 00:22:06.279 --> 00:22:08.519 I do like to lunch. Did you bring any food? I have? 294 00:22:10.640 --> 00:22:12.839 And I have blueberries? That's all I had. Do you want to 295 00:22:14.079 --> 00:22:15.359 should we eat? I'll go down to the snack draw and dive in. 296 00:22:17.240 --> 00:22:19.920 Maybe have some goldfish? Hey, you know what what? Tamp it down? 297 00:22:21.039 --> 00:22:23.680 Lady? Tell me what to eat. You've been listening to The Gary 298 00:22:23.759 --> 00:22:27.400 and Shannon Show. You can always hear us live on KFI AM six forty 299 00:22:27.480 --> 00:22:32.920 nine am to one pm every Monday through Friday, and anytime on demand on 300 00:22:33.000 --> 00:22:33.039 the iHeartRadio AP