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Welcome in everyone. It's Clips and
Dip episode one fifty one. I'm Adam

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Oslin. We got Will Updike,
Chuck Mockler and a special guest and Kelly

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Johnson joining us from Fox eleven and
Good Day La coming up here on the

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show. We're gonna talk about what
dropped earlier. I think it was Chris

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Haynes who had it, and then
Sham Sharania kind of corrected it. But

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CP three could becoming available and we'll
talk about the Clippers one. And we

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did a poll at Clippers podcast right
now at Clippers Pod. At Clippers Podcast

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is where you can hear not getting
us and watch us on YouTube. We

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appreciate you guys for hopping in here. Kelly, how are you? Thanks

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for doing this today. I'm good. How are you? And thank you

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so much for having me. I'm
so excited. We're good. So we

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were reading your bio or I was
earlier a little bit doing a little bit

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of background research. Oh boy,
Arizona State. There's no conflict right when

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the Clippers are taken on the Suns
in the playoffs or anything like that,

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because yes, you know, I
was thinking I figured this might come up,

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and the interesting thing about Peeniggs is
that a lot of people from Arizona,

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like who live in Arizona, they're
actually from somewhere else. If you

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go to like a Diamondbacks game when
they play the Dodgers, it feels like

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a Dodgers home game. And growing
up a lot of the people I went

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to school with, they were Laker
fans. So even though you're from Arizona

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doesn't necessarily mean it's like the protocol
to follow Arizona sports team. So I

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mean, yes, I went to
Asue on my Proud Sun Devil. My

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dream school was USC so I've always
had this desire to live in California.

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R I p Pat Tillman one of
my favorites ever, Oh for sure,

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Yes, much respect. All Right, Adam got the first nickname change.

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If you're watching on YouTube, because
I read the background on Kelly Johnson our

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guests, Yes you did a damn
professional all right. Adam doesn't read the

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breakdowns for the show, but he
will look into your background if you are

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a guest, so that I love
it. That's good research. And Kelly,

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you put out a great video for
Clips fans this year. You had

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people for those of you didn't see
it Clippers fans center in pictures. There's

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a great Russ quote kind of over
the whole thing is a montage. You

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also put out an article that the
Clippers are the eighth smartest fans in the

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league. I would like to take
a quick poll of the those who host

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this podcast, Adam, do you
believe the clip? Do you believe Clippers

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fans are the eight smartest fans in
the league. No, they're number one,

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just like the Sacramento Kings fans were
voted that back when I was up

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in Norcow growing up. Because when
you are a long suffering fan base,

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you have to know about everything because
sometimes your team may not have that many

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star players. We're lucky to Steve
Baumber bought the franchise and they have the

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two one three connection now, But
there were many suffering years for Clippers fans

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where they kind of had to go
to games and watch the opposition and see

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how the stars were going to perform
on the other side because they didn't have

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the big name players. So it
makes you a little bit more educated of

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a fan. That's where I'm okay, will Clippers fans top ten smartists in

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the league? I will say this
like how many other how many other like

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the majority of their fan base,
how many other franchises? Could you say,

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can name a prominent athletic trainer that's
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decade, So that's got to count
for something. But I agree with Adam,

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like I think that there are a
lot of well informed Clippers fans.

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I do think a lot of it
has come out of a weird necessity we're

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in, Like it's like, we
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Like what the hell can we do? Where do we go? Yeah?

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How can we get out of this? So I do think I do

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think that there are some educated Clippers
folks out there, But unfortunately it hasn't

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always been like for fun. It's
I think it's been out of pain.

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I was gonna say many Clipper fans
are like honorary like physical therapists, like

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knowing so much about injuries. It's
like, oh, yeah, I know

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what it is. We can probably
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knees and certain ligaments. Yeah,
that was just from the Sean Livingston injury.

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Actually, so many went unfortunately.
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just clips of injuries going over my
brain right now, you got us number

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one, right, I think i'd
probably go one. I liked your logic

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of like teams who aren't good like
their fans having to really I'll go one.

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I'll go one, and then I
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gonna I can't go one just because
I feel like Clippers fans, we get

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to disregard the entirety of the draft
because we're just not good at it.

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So I feel like, you know, you know, like there's so many

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other fan bases, like if you're
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like you know so much more about
the draft. This is not true.

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The Clippers have to know about second
round picks because they've been there consistently,

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all right, it's so unpredictable though
it doesn't count. Sometimes the Clippers don't

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even know how tall the guy they're
drafting is out Daniel true and law Marie

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for putting that in print, so
we know that it's actually true, Kelly.

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On the list it said number one
was Toronto, right, the rap

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number one Nadiens. Yeah, they're
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Our education system is that a slight. This is going to turn into like

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crossfire with Adam and guests for right
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which is interesting because Arizona is usually
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there with Mississippi, so that,
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or something, you know what I
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I mean in four God not that
smart. He was physical, he could

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throw hands, but come on,
he did market that. He somehow was

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like signing basketballs and selling them on
his Instagram as like sons and four guy,

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which you know, I got a
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know allegedly went to kindergarten with him
and he was a bully in kindergarten,

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and I do not I do not
think we need to praise bully culture.

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So it thinks like this guy has
not learned his lesson. And that's another

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reason I am not a sens fan. I'm like, we cannot praise this

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guy and we're still coming about him. Yeah, yeah, how a d

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M about it. It was weird
how the team like embraced it, like

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they're like Devin Booker was like,
I want to give you some tickets,

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and it's like Okay, man,
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of fights at their stadium. So
we talked. We haven't talked about the

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last season as a whole quite a
bit, but we've had some people from

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the media on here. We've talked
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A lot of people mentioned, and
you covered the team and are a fan

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of the team, that this was
one of, if not the hardest years

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to kind of be a Clippers fan
for various reasons. Why do you think

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last year was so difficult? Hey? Do you think last year was so

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difficult? And why do we think
it was so difficult, particularly last season

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with the clips. So I think
I'm one of the rare positive fans,

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but not overly positive, if that
makes sense. So I having a different

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person, It's like, I'm not
like we're you know, you hope that

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you know we're going to the finals, but when you see, especially after

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the All Star break, Hey,
we're not really beating teams with records over

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five hundred, and you know we're
celebrating when we beat you know, Houston,

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that's not necessarily a good sign.
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it's like one thing that I always
go back to and from what you know

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I've seen on Twitter is that like
lou Will, Pat Bev Treas that like

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culture, we don't necessarily have that
anymore. That's kind of missing, and

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I think, you know, the
chemistry was off. It was the lack

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of effort, being so close to
winning games and having those meltdowns in the

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fourth quarter give no Quarter. I
don't think anyone ever wants to or that.

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Again, there's no way they tested
that. There's no way they did

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any like focus groups or anything with
give no Quarter. Yeah, absolutely not.

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And I think it was just frustrating
knowing how much potential we have is

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you know, the comeback clips that
we got to see last season was so

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it's you know, we had Luke
Kennard and we had you know, Reggie

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Jackson and those guys. You know, once they left, we didn't just

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we didn't have that anymore. Just
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there. The fans. You know, we went into the season and we

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were projected to go to the finals. Yeah that was the thing, and

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I was like, maybe that's a
curse. There were too many eyes on

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us, and it's just you know, frustrating. I went to Seattle for

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that preseason game. We looked so
good and just saying things, just not

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connecting players just I don't want to
say it didn't seem like they didn't,

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you know, want to be there. But it was just something different in

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the air, and that did change
when Russell Westbrook came, a completely different

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atmosphere in the arena. But I
think it's just being disappointed. It's like

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having you know, pardon me,
I've been watching my niece and nephews,

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so you know, it's just like
having a room full of AP students who

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are failing tests. It's like,
what's going on you guys? You know

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what I mean? All this potential
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So you're telling me you don't think
something was born out of those wins,

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Like Adam was talking about after every
single win on the right, that's called

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culture or something more. I love
that metaphor of a bunch of AP kids

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like failing the test, like they're
all really smart kids just for some reason

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can't really get it, and the
optimism, like it did make sense going

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into the season to have open right, we were the on paper favorites.

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Everything was set up. We were
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Adam, what do you think kind
of made it so difficult? I think

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a little bit. It was kind
of more of the same. It felt

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like almost a breaking point for everyone's
limit to how much apathy towards the regular

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season, how much unexpected kind of
medical absences they were willing to deal with,

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and stuff like that. It felt
like it was kind of just like

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it was just all too much after
the year, like you said, the

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year before, regging and all that
stuff. Yeah, And I think a

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lot of people felt like there would
be carryover from the twenty twenty one playoff

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run into this season. They were
missing Kawhi all of last year and that

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was just going to continue with bringing
him back in. But then he goes

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out with a knee injury, and
there was something that kind of flew unto

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the radar. Early early on the
year, the media was asking Paul George

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in the locker room about the twenty
twenty one Clippers and that playoff run,

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and he said, it's a new
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And I don't think he's wrong for
saying that. I don't think you

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could just show up with the same
team and expect the same results and pick

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up where you left off and win
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There's new players on the team,
there's new philosophies. Things are going

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to change, And unfortunately, I
think a lot of the expectations were set

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at such a high level. And
I think that's a good thing, don't

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get me wrong, but it leaves
you prone to disappointment. It leaves you

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a little bit open to disappointment because
when it's championship or bust, and as

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you mentioned, the same thing start
to humulate with injuries going on them not

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having that continuity on the court.
It just felt like, yes, more

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of the same from this Clippers team
when we thought, Okay, this is

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the year. This is definitely going
to be our year. But I was

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wondering, Kelly, I don't know
if we got this from you, what

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was the first Clippers team to disappoint
you? What was the first team that

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you wrote that was a great question. What was the impetus of you being

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a Clippers fan? You know,
that's a really good question, and I'm

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pretty new I'll be you know perfectly
honest. I came in the two and

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three year when I moved to LA. That's when Kawai and Paul George joined

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as well, so we all came
together so I can deal. Yeah,

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people say it was a trade just
for Kawai. I don't know that.

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We got Kelly and PG in that
whole deal. Yeah exactly. Yeah,

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we're all paggage deal. And I
grew up always an NBA fan, and

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I'm not going to well, I
have kind of switched teams. I mean,

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my favorite team growing up was that
early two thousand Pistons and who the

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team was in like twenty nineteen.
They reminded me so much of them that

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just that like that fight, that
grit. I was like, oh,

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I like them, and like,
I love Kawhi Leonard. I love how

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he shook things up in Toronto,
hoping to see him do that again in

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LA. And that's you know,
one of those things do you like you

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see spurts of it, right,
but you don't see it consistently, and

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that's part of the disappointment. But
Kwhi Leonard's probably my all time favorite player,

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so that's how I became a fan. So he recruited me. I'm

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one of the new guys. We
need all the positivity we can get.

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We need all the rational positivity we
can get, so we'll definitely take it.

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But I'm not switching teams again.
Don't worry, I've got in the

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past. I will admit that this
this is here to stay a Clipper nation.

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Just really good fan base, really
sweeten. Kind of going back to

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what you're talking about earlier, like, oh, you know, being the

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eighth smartest fans in the NBA.
I think I remember before the groundbreaking at

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the you know, into a dome
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fans, everybody was on time.
Everyone just had so much knowledge about the

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game and had a passion for this
team. And I think that's so admirable.

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Yes, it's admirable, especially for
when you talk to me, who've

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been the fan of the team since
you know, the LA sports are in

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the days, You're like you really
you really stuck around? Yeah, Will,

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what made this well? First of
all, Will, did you have

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a difficult year watching this team?
Absolutely? So, it wasn't difficult.

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I mean, like, there's a
few things I think overall, like the

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apathy of the approach to the regular
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I think i'd kind of I'd put
behind me in previous years with both Kawai

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and Paul George healthy, Um,
I think this year it was just especially

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more present because the team didn't even
look all that good when both of them

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were playing together. Um, you
know, there were there were submitted like

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there were some limited stretches where I
was like, Okay, I could see

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what this could become. But I
mean we talked about this all throughout the

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season. You know, they struggled
to put together you know, multiple convincing

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wins even in a sequence, you
know what I mean, Like there was

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never a stretch of games where you
were like, okay, like I'm seeing

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this Clippers team really start to hit
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because, like we talk about,
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that eighteen nineteen season, like the
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and like we thought that we had
like such a clear idea of what

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this team was, like the you
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we were adding these two players that
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And I think we've learned anything in
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not even just Kawai and PG.
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is really unsure of their direction.
And I think that that was just like

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blatantly obvious this year. How many
times did we talk about, you know,

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like what is the Clippers culture?
Is their Clippers culture? Like is

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you know, did they figure something
out from this? I mean I joked

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about ad I'm talking about something being
born, But like every single time we

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were hoping like, Okay, has
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do they know who they are?
Now? Do they know what they are?

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That? Like? Do they know
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I think that like bled over into
some things where I think a big thing

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that was, you know, helping
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was was this depth right Like we
saw this and it was like, Okay,

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even you know, let's say we
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and Paul George, you know,
we have all this depth that you would

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think would be able to kind of
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I think which just the lack of
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wasn't even utilized correctly. And I
think that that showed a lot of redundancy

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in those positions, and I think
that got really difficult to see. Two

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is like these players that I was
excited about kind of either being misused or

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you know, in some cases like
Robert Covington, not really used at all,

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And that was just really frustrating.
It's really frustrating to watch a team

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still like chasing its tail in year
four. I just don't know how after

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that many seasons you can't at least
figure out what is the brand of basketball

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it is that you play. You
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not being here, and that obviously
does affect that it does make roles he

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fluid, but it just feels like
there's not an overall direction and I think

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that was just on full display this
year. Kelly. You kind of raised

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an eyebrow there when you brought up
Robert Covington. Was that one of these

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sore spots for you this season?
Not seeing him on the listen, Yes,

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and when you see him doing the
T shirt contest and action he's get

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eat. It is so frustrating.
And you know, I found that,

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you know, when he scored like
forty one points last season. I mean,

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it's just I want to know what
you know, what's going on.

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Obviously there's something that we don't know. I wish I could get to the

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bottom of it. And you know, I just feel like, if we're

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not going to utilize him, go
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you know, when we talk about
what direction was this team going in,

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and I heard you guys talk about
this in a previous podcast, it

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seems like there was no voice in
the locker room. We know that tylu

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he had a lot of personal stuff
going on, but he still had to

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show up to work because he felt
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it's you know, it's like,
you we have to accept the fact that

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Paul George Quilin those they're they're introverts. These are not going to be vocal

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leaders in the locker room. So
it seems like that was very much missing.

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And just talking about misusing players.
I mean Terrence Man, like,

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what is his role on this team? You know, we're still trying to

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figure that out. Love him,
would like to see more of him,

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but it's you know, it's someone
who is underutilized this past season. Do

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we think that Paul George would be
a more vocal leader if we set up

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a fake podcast studio and he could
address all the all the team as if

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he were on a podcast. Maybe
maybe they need to mate set up a

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studio before the game because it's like
all this personality and he's got jokes and

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it's very interesting. But maybe it's
that more relaxed environment. I can relate

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to that as an instant introvert.
But yeah, podcast pe shout out to

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him, But well they're I mean, to be fair, there are extroverts

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that that aren't necessarily like leaders.
You know. Yeah, I do think

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that leading a team is such a
specific thing, right, and you know,

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I do really at the end of
the day, I really feel like

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there's only a few players that can
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sometimes it's not always the guys you
would expect. I mean, you would

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you would love for it to be
your lead player or your star player,

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because it's kind of hard for one
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another thing that was kind of disappointing
in this, like you know, this

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Clipper season is I feel like we've
had that leader in the locker room before

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at times, and then I don't
know what happens with that role, like

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like Nick Batoum this year. I
don't know if it was because of you

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know, he was battling hell stuff
and his minutes were kind of up and

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down. They were clearly trying to
save him. It seemed like for the

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for the playoffs or something. But
it feels like guys don't really feel empowered

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in that locker room and if you're
not going to get it from your stars,

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you gotta find it somewhere else.
And ultimately, you know, I

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think that that was the biggest benefit
of the rust of the entire rustling,

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which I was super critical of,
but I mean, like that was what

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they needed. Yeah, Russ brought
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how this team felt about themselves.
They talked about how Russ brought this belief

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and stuff like that, and it
was like, so it wasn't here pre

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Russ, like you guys didn't fully
it wasn't. No, I know,

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but that's what makes it so tough. Adam, you look like you have

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some rebuttals you maybe want to say
about this team spirit. No. I

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think also the sleuth might need to
figure out what's going on with Rocco.

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You gotta earn the nickname. Get
to the bottom of it. That that

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secret hallway between locker rooms. I'm
just posted up there the rest of the

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summer. It was so weird,
wasn't it. Roco played and then he

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went into health and safety, and
then he just he did a interview where

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he was like, I'm looking forward
to playing more. He just did he

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even get time on Hbcunite. Did
they give him like six minutes or something.

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He's the only player who went to
an HBCU and I think they like

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gave him like a pity seven minutes
or something. Yeah on HBC unit which

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is like, dude, yeah,
that kind of underscores and just epitomizes the

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entire season. Roco's minutes, Terrence
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And it goes back to those expectations
we thought, okay Man's gonna take that

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next step. He's gonna play more
minutes Rocco, after the way he performed

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when they brought him in last season, the forty one point performance that Kelly

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brought up, He's going to be
even more involved. We're going to throw

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out wingstop all the time. He's
getting eleven threes every game and none of

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it came to fruition, and it's
just shocking and bizarre that so many things

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that we anticipated happening going into this
season and we couldn't check off many of

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them at all by the end of
it. Now very very weird season.

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We're gonna take a break, and
then we're gonna talk about all of the

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weird stuff that apparently might happen in
between last year's weird season and what might

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turn out to be a very weird
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Chris Paul me to come after the
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two one, all right, we are

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back, Episode one fifty one of
Clips and Dip Joint by Kelly Johnson.

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A bunch of weird stuff happened today
involving Chris Paul. For those who listening,

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if you didn't know, Chris Paul
used to play for the Clippers,

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very important part of this team's run. At some point some people are new

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they might not know the Sons are
doing something with Chris Paul. Chris Haynes

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first tweeted out that he was just
gonna be waived, which everyone was like,

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this is a big this is a
lot. Then Sham's tweeted out that

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they're exploring multiple options, including a
trade, stretching his contractor waiving him,

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or releasing him in free agency,
which is every possibility possible. And then

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Woes came in and kind of said
that he might want to return to the

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Suns, but they also might be
looking at trade ideas ahead of when his

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contract is fully guaranteed on June twenty
eighth of this month, So it truly

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seems like they're exploring all options.
We ask Clippers Trier, we'll get to

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that in a second, if they'd
want Chris Paul back, because it's not

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an impossibility, but we have to
ask the power quad here. We'll start

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with the sleuth. Would you want
Chris Paul back on this Clippers basketball team

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for the twenty two what years?
At twenty two twenty three season, he

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just turned thirty eight. But we
talked about this three or four episodes ago,

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and I was the one guy on
this show that said, in the

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right role, I would take CP
three back coming off the bench, playing

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fifteen to twenty five minutes a night. He still was getting an efficient fourteen

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and nine assists last season. It's
really more about your feelings and what vibes

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he brings to the locker room,
which comes to CP three because he does

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evoke strong emotions from Clipper fans,
because when teammates he's kind of a he's

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kind of a prick. He's polarizing. There's no doubt about it. I

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still think he offers so much and
maybe some of what the Clippers need when

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he's right. And that's another issue. You bring in another older guy that's

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injury prone, that missed the last
four games of the playoffs or the Phoenix

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Suns with a groin injury, I
don't know if you can rely on him

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obviously for eighty two games. We're
talking about some of them. Somebody that

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might play fifty games, and that's
still with Linton minutes in there. I

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don't think he can be necessarily your
starting point guard or something like that every

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night. Slot him in and say, Okay, the Clippers finally found their

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guy. It's nothing like that.
If you brought him in, it would

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have to be knowing his role and
just having him in a limited role with

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this Clippers team. Kelly, how
are you feeling about it? Well,

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I don't know if you guys listen
to this interview. It just came out.

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He was on a podcast race and
he was saying that his daughter is

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getting bullied that you know, she's
old enough where you know the kids are

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going up to her making fun.
You know, not that this is related

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at all, but it just happened
to come out pretty much within hours of

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one another. UM, I am
going to keep it pretty short here,

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and my answer is, you know, the Clippers already have the oldest roster

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in the NBA. We really need
to get younger, not older. Pass

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for me, thank you, it's
absolutely no part of it. Oh that's

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wonderful. Will your thoughts? So
far we have one yes from Adam and

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then one definite and the right role
for the right prize. All right,

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No, it's an O for me. I don't really see any reason to

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sort of like retread that ground.
And I think that I think so.

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I do really think one of the
difficulties of like this locker room having a

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voice too has been finding the right
personality right because I do think and you

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know, I don't. I don't
have on this. I do think that

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there was friction between the Stars and
Patrick Beverley that contributed to him not coming

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back and then not making a move
to go ahead and sign him. How

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many times last year did we did
we and everyone else say Pat bev would

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be great on this team after what
was happening in Chicago? I mean,

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you know, it just makes sense. I do think though, that there

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is like a question of personalities,
and like that was always one of my

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hugest criticisms of Doc was that he's
not a manager of personalities, which is

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something you have to do in a
locker room. And I don't think that

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he's the right guy. I don't
think at this stage of his career he's

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the right guy to have that voice
in the locker room to pull rank as

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I kind of alluded to earlier,
and just I mean, I agree with

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Kelly, like I I any move
that's getting this that's somehow getting this team,

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even older way older, like I
just I do not see it.

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I do not see the end game. I'm also, like I had to

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be honest, like, while the
Rustling did end up working out, I'm

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still flummixed by this idea of like
how fixated they are on a point guard,

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Like why are we still doing this? Like I just we keep running

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through the same like Frondo John,
We've had like the most point guard of

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point guard. There's just you look
at the roster, it's insane. There's

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just there's some pretty severe restrictions on
what this team can do cap wise with

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the two stars. They want to
handle the ball less by all you know,

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but by all accounts, they don't
want to be responsible for, you

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know, facilitating and getting the offense
going one hundred percent of the time.

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But with what what you have available
to spend, Like the market out there

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is not exactly like a game changing
candidate. And I don't think like latching

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onto Chris Paul just because it's like
a a name, is really the right

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move for this team. I just
I'm not seeing it. It's it's a

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no for me. Chuck. What
if the situation is they can't resign Russell

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Westbrook, would it make you any
more interested in the Absolutely not both.

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Someone said you should try and get
both, and I wanted to jump into

408
00:27:03,559 --> 00:27:07,160
the road. It's what I wanted
to do. Well. Clippers fans are

409
00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:12,599
also very torn on this, we
ask Clippers Twitter. We got exactly two

410
00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:15,440
hundred votes. Made it easy.
Do you want Chris Paul back on the

411
00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:21,319
Clippers? Forty six percent said yes, Fifty four percent said no, So

412
00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:25,119
we're not. Like I'm surprised it's
that close. I don't know if there's

413
00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:27,279
like I don't know if there's like
a legacy thing or something kind of tying

414
00:27:27,319 --> 00:27:32,440
into that, because like looking at
where Chris Paul is right now, and

415
00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:36,039
like I said, just like just
considering like the people in the locker room,

416
00:27:36,079 --> 00:27:37,880
Like do you think Paul George is
going to respond really well to getting

417
00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:41,359
yelled at by Chris Paul in practice? Like I just don't. I don't

418
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:47,960
see it. Absence makes the hardcrow
fonder. Okay, he's been gone for

419
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:51,680
so long, guys. This was
the first Clippers team that Kelly routed four

420
00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:53,200
in the two one three era.
A lot of people still have love for

421
00:27:53,319 --> 00:27:59,920
CB three. All right, don't
bring Kelly into this, so law murder.

422
00:28:00,039 --> 00:28:03,400
He had a great tweet about this. He said when Russell Westbrook was

423
00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:07,599
going through his Lakers tribulations, the
support he had from Clippers locker room was

424
00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:14,119
quite widespread, both before and during
his Utah Jazz Purgatory. Let's just say

425
00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:18,039
the same locker room doesn't speak on
Chris Paul the same way. For what

426
00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:22,279
it's worth, I think I think
it makes so much sense to not bring

427
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:29,119
Chris Paul to this Clippers team because
A I think the forty six percent of

428
00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:33,319
people who voted yes, once you
looked at the roster sheet and you saw

429
00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:37,440
like, so, first of all, if Tyler was coaching, Chris Paul

430
00:28:37,519 --> 00:28:41,960
is taking Terence Man's minutes, right, like, yeah, it doesn't seem

431
00:28:41,039 --> 00:28:45,480
available, right, Yeah, when
Chris Paul is available, he's probably taken

432
00:28:45,559 --> 00:28:48,839
Terence's minutes. I think the people
who want Chris Paul and the team would

433
00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:53,680
be very bummed out once they saw
like the starting five, because I don't

434
00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:57,880
think Kris Paul's taken eventu role.
I just he was. I just don't

435
00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:03,119
think it's going to happen. And
him starting and we still have this weird

436
00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:07,240
logjam of youth with like Bones and
Terrence and these guys who can play guard,

437
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:11,680
I think people would be pretty frustrated, especially because Bones could really turn

438
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:15,079
into a fan favored I think with
this team what Kelly was talking about with

439
00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:18,640
having more of an influx of youth. They certainly need more youth, they

440
00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:23,200
need more athleticism, they need the
coach to trust those guys. It looked

441
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:26,559
like he had a lot of trushold
Bones Highland. They brought him in late

442
00:29:26,559 --> 00:29:30,480
in the season and he was getting
run in the playoffs, and I think

443
00:29:30,519 --> 00:29:33,680
that surprised some people with the way
he's gone about using Terrence Man, of

444
00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:40,000
course, and that's also shocking because
he closed games in the playoffs in twenty

445
00:29:40,119 --> 00:29:42,799
twenty one Terrence Man, and it
looked like he had the nod from Coach

446
00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:45,920
Lou that he was going to be
one of his guys, one of his

447
00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:51,119
soldiers moving forward. It's another one
of those things like Rocco that coming into

448
00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:53,319
this season, we're looking for another
big step from him. It didn't happen,

449
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:57,039
but having him and Bones Highland,
and if you don't have a veteran,

450
00:29:57,319 --> 00:30:00,279
if Westbrook's not able to return,
if they don't bring in someone like

451
00:30:00,359 --> 00:30:06,799
CP three or an older guy like
Mike cost Well, I think for a

452
00:30:06,839 --> 00:30:10,839
lot of people they would prefer to
just say ride with the young guys at

453
00:30:10,839 --> 00:30:14,720
the point guard position. You have
man in Bones Highland in one way to

454
00:30:14,799 --> 00:30:18,000
maybe force Coach Flew to have to
do. Some of that would be,

455
00:30:18,519 --> 00:30:22,759
you know, structuring the lineup in
a way where they're just not an option

456
00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:25,839
other than goal with a young guy, like they did at the trade deadline

457
00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:29,720
when they took all the point guards
away. Just also a little brief ast

458
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:32,880
side, we talked about like how
frustrating parts of this season? Where can

459
00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:37,200
you imagine this season? Plus you
have to watch Chris Paul play offense for

460
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:41,279
fifty games? Y. Yeah,
I was gonna say, this is who

461
00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:47,160
is available, you know, in
demand? So okay, other than Russell

462
00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:52,079
Westbrook and Chris Paul, Kyrie Irving, Fred Randleet and DeAngelo Russell, I

463
00:30:52,119 --> 00:30:55,920
think we're gonna preferably ride with who
we have. That that's who I mean.

464
00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:59,720
If for some reason we can't work
out getting rust back, I think

465
00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:03,119
we'd to work with who we have. Yeah, who would you prefer kind

466
00:31:03,119 --> 00:31:04,079
of that? Young? Do you
want? Terrence? Are you in the

467
00:31:04,079 --> 00:31:07,119
start Terrence camp? Are you in
the give Bones? Because Bones is really

468
00:31:07,119 --> 00:31:10,799
fun to watch the basketball. I
think it's very good. Bones is a

469
00:31:10,839 --> 00:31:12,640
little more fun to watch. I
think we can have both. I mean,

470
00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:17,640
Bones really brings a different type of
energy that we need. You plug

471
00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:19,839
him in and it's a completely different
game. It's a faster faced game,

472
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:23,680
and he has that confidence. We
need that that get up and go.

473
00:31:23,799 --> 00:31:27,480
I think him and Mason Plumley had
some really good chemistry. We don't know

474
00:31:27,519 --> 00:31:30,319
what's going to happen with him,
but would love to see him back as

475
00:31:30,319 --> 00:31:34,279
well. But you know, I
feel like we have to figure out a

476
00:31:34,319 --> 00:31:37,480
way to make both of them work. And I know that we were hearing

477
00:31:37,519 --> 00:31:41,680
some rumblings. I think at the
end of the playoffs like Team A,

478
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:45,480
Team B like Okay with a healthy
Koie Lenard and Paul George and healthy.

479
00:31:45,599 --> 00:31:51,680
So I think we're potentially looking at
two different rosters anyway. Oh, that's

480
00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:55,440
a good call with the two different
rosters thing. Speaking of Kawai and Paul

481
00:31:55,480 --> 00:32:00,759
George, the Athletic, in an
effort to seemingly drum up agement on Twitter,

482
00:32:00,079 --> 00:32:05,359
offered a little blurb for the PG
for Scoot Henderson trade. Have you

483
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:09,039
seen this rumor that it is really
just something people made up because it works

484
00:32:09,039 --> 00:32:14,759
financially. I didn't know Scoot was
already drafted. That's right, Kelly,

485
00:32:14,799 --> 00:32:16,799
you've seen this. I'm sure where
it's I have. Where are you at

486
00:32:16,839 --> 00:32:22,680
on the trade Paul George for what's
called the number three pick and then whatever

487
00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:27,000
what is it? Nerk and Simon's
right, I will say, as a

488
00:32:27,039 --> 00:32:30,920
new fan, I have learned it's
just best not to speculate and just wait

489
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:36,160
until things actually happened. You're too
rational, you're too radical tweet. I

490
00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:39,519
just you know, it's like we
were hearing stuff about Joel Empde and like

491
00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:45,880
I have her like potential trades with
Portland, and it's just like nothing has

492
00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:49,960
happened. It's been a literal desert
you guys, like you know, ever

493
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:52,839
since our season ended. So,
I mean, you know, it's it's

494
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:58,200
fun to talk about, but I've
learned it's just like, oh no,

495
00:32:58,799 --> 00:33:02,119
we lost Kelly. I just got
lost. She's bad. I'm sorry about

496
00:33:02,119 --> 00:33:07,039
that. You got Maybe that was
the universe. Maybe the universe. I'm

497
00:33:07,039 --> 00:33:12,240
so sorry that happened. So it
does come to the Clippers. Now,

498
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:19,000
was this the moment that the un
on YouTube? Anyway? Sorry, Kelly,

499
00:33:19,039 --> 00:33:22,240
continue that was I think that was
the end for me. I think

500
00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:24,000
I'm gonna take you know, that
side from the universe to send it there.

501
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:29,680
So we're keeping and your eyes you're
saying no to the PG for scoot

502
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:31,599
or the three pick, because who
knows what they would do with the three

503
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:35,759
pick, right, I mean,
let's just wait and see. You know,

504
00:33:35,839 --> 00:33:37,160
I need to hear more. I
need I need to see at least

505
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:39,640
a little bit of woome loss,
you know, I need. I need

506
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:43,119
a little bit well, I mean
it did come from him, but I

507
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:46,640
just need need a little bit more
rationale. Here, that's legit and now

508
00:33:47,759 --> 00:33:51,759
kind of the most important thing we're
gonna We're gonna close out with this one.

509
00:33:52,839 --> 00:33:57,279
This is the last non option year
for Paul, George and Kauhai before

510
00:33:57,279 --> 00:34:00,480
they can opt out and sign Wonder
Max. I don't know what the level

511
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:05,839
of Supermax they can sign is beta, so I don't know if it's super

512
00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:10,960
beta Max. I think, yeah, super Sigma max. So how would

513
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:15,400
how would will we'll go to you? How would you feel if so PG

514
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:20,480
will be thirty four quib thirty two? How would you feel giving PG the

515
00:34:20,639 --> 00:34:27,239
second Max contract through what age?
Thirty nine? Thirty eight? Wait is

516
00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:31,239
the other one? Is it still
five years? I believe So that's what

517
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:37,159
Kyrie is Oh my god, mulling
over. Yeah, Kai, I don't

518
00:34:37,159 --> 00:34:40,599
know what Kyrie's doing, but yes, one of the things he's theoretically doing

519
00:34:40,639 --> 00:34:45,639
is mulling over his contract, and
that's five years, two seventy two.

520
00:34:45,679 --> 00:34:47,960
I think that he has available,
and we would be able to offer Kawai

521
00:34:49,039 --> 00:34:53,599
and PG. I think somewhere in
the five three something range. God,

522
00:34:53,639 --> 00:34:57,400
that's so much money. Well,
so, I guess here's my thing is

523
00:34:58,119 --> 00:35:01,119
if things continue the way that they
are, I think that you're there's no

524
00:35:01,159 --> 00:35:05,840
way that you know, if we
have another injury riddled season, if we

525
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:08,800
have another postseason that doesn't have both
of these guys real quick. Yeah,

526
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:13,280
I mean I think that you roll
the dice and and you let them,

527
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:15,400
You let the market determine what their
value is, and you don't. You

528
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:20,760
don't preemptively, you know, lock
into the Supermax um. That's a good

529
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:23,840
point because I just Max, like, yeah, Max Worthy at thirty four.

530
00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:25,920
I just don't know why you would. And I think, you know,

531
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:31,320
obviously, with all that you've already
committed to this setup and with a

532
00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:35,000
new arena opening, which I you
know, we've talked about it on here

533
00:35:35,039 --> 00:35:37,920
before, but I think has to
be a factor. You can't. I

534
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:42,159
just don't see a way in which
you're already the Little Brother franchise in a

535
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:47,320
city that you can open a new
arena without at least two superstars in it.

536
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:52,360
Like, I just don't you know
that this can't be like the We

537
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:55,079
Believe Warriors even or something like it
just it just can't. It can't be

538
00:35:55,119 --> 00:35:59,039
like there's just not a big enough
draw. So I think that, like

539
00:35:59,079 --> 00:36:02,199
we're we're headed in a direction where
it's the most likely of scenarios, because

540
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:06,960
if you're in that position, really, what else do you do unless you

541
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:09,440
you know, unless you do pull
you know, the trigger on one of

542
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:15,159
these like speculative trades and then you
make that supermax someone else's problem and someone

543
00:36:15,199 --> 00:36:20,519
else's decision. I think that,
barring you know, some more injury stuff,

544
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:23,599
it's got to be the most likely
of scenarios. I just don't really

545
00:36:23,599 --> 00:36:29,639
see another outcome. Kelly, Are
you giving out six hundred million dollars combined

546
00:36:29,639 --> 00:36:31,280
to these two guys when they're thirty
four and thirty two? Again? You

547
00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:35,639
know that is so much Yeah,
so much money? And you know what

548
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:38,320
I think I really think about.
You know, we've got into a Doham

549
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:44,039
opening next season and well, you
know, I guess two seasons from now

550
00:36:44,079 --> 00:36:46,639
next fall, and you know,
if I'm Steve Bohmer, you're thinking,

551
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:51,960
I need big names to get butts
in the seats, regardless of what's happening

552
00:36:52,119 --> 00:36:53,840
at both Kawai and PG. They're
local guys. They want to be in

553
00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:59,159
LA. They've proven that they want
to be here. So I feel like

554
00:36:59,199 --> 00:37:01,519
we may not have a choice,
and you know, hopefully the injury gods

555
00:37:01,519 --> 00:37:06,360
are kind to us moving forward.
It's unlikely, but let's just you know,

556
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:09,840
stay optimistic and hope. So but
again with that, I think business

557
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:15,239
wise, I think we need some
big names for that new arena. Kelly

558
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:17,559
is not speculating at this point per
her name, which if you watched on

559
00:37:17,599 --> 00:37:22,679
YouTube slash Clippers podcast you'd see.
Adam, I have a feeling you're going

560
00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:24,480
to say we should sign both of
them a ten year contracts for five hundred

561
00:37:24,519 --> 00:37:28,920
million dollars. Well, the sleuth
brought out as magnifying glass, and he

562
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:34,880
wants to magnify the contracts as well. He wants a Magic Johnson like twenty

563
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:40,440
year lifetime comes. So I think
what you guys are saying is completely accurate.

564
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:45,800
It's more likely than not, especially
after what Lawrence Frank said the postseason

565
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:49,360
interview where he said we're committed to
these guys long term, and I believe

566
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:52,159
correct me if I'm wrong, Chuck. But they're extension eligible this summer,

567
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:57,800
so it could be something that we're
not waiting for after this year. But

568
00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:01,320
it could be some news that drop
within the next couple of months that they

569
00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:05,599
have signed a three year or a
four year extension or something like that.

570
00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:09,000
Three I would love give me the
three year extension all day. The one

571
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:14,800
thing I will say, no thank
you. Someone brought this up regarding Paul

572
00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:20,960
George and the Blazers and his trade
value right now. I think it's higher

573
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:25,679
than people realize because the lack of
free agents that are available this summer,

574
00:38:27,559 --> 00:38:30,239
he actually would be the biggest name
out there. It would be a trade

575
00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:36,239
but still being dangled out there.
If if that's the scenario with Portland,

576
00:38:36,639 --> 00:38:39,679
So I don't know if it's as
crazy that a trade could go down.

577
00:38:40,119 --> 00:38:43,760
Is maybe even I thought, you
know, three weeks ago or a month

578
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:46,400
ago when we first talked about this, because to me, it's still you're

579
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:50,639
better with Paul George. You have
a better chance to win a championship.

580
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:52,760
What does the number three pick do
for you with trying to win this year?

581
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:58,840
But if you're saying, Okay,
we want to move on from the

582
00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:02,119
two one three era, you know
that that could change things. So I

583
00:39:02,119 --> 00:39:07,440
don't know, I think teams maybe
calling or asking uh and inquiring what the

584
00:39:07,519 --> 00:39:12,800
Clippers more than we realize that's a
good call. I also got to say

585
00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:16,199
too, Like I mean, I
as a person in pretty reactionary, and

586
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:20,920
I've been like pretty I've been like
a little bit over the two one three

587
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:30,280
era for a while, Like,
um, it's just watching Denver this year,

588
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:35,519
right, I think that while it's
different, and obviously they're they're a

589
00:39:35,599 --> 00:39:40,039
much younger team, I still think
that they're you can retool around the same

590
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:45,599
core if there's like a definitive direction
and like things fall your way and all

591
00:39:45,599 --> 00:39:49,760
of a sudden, you know,
the conference is wide open, and you

592
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:52,239
know, I mean obviously they're tied
up right now, but like a title

593
00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:57,960
is within view, and I do
think that there is something to While it's

594
00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:00,199
a little hard to stomach, you
know, thinking about the into those contracts,

595
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:06,440
two more good seasons, I mean
just two more better even than what

596
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:08,400
we've had. And you know,
you're like a couple, you're just a

597
00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:13,760
couple of things falling the right way
away from getting one championship, and that's

598
00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:16,039
really all you need. If Steve
Bamber can open this new arena with one

599
00:40:16,119 --> 00:40:20,159
championship, he can blow the whole
thing up. It doesn't matter at that

600
00:40:20,199 --> 00:40:24,079
point. They could trade for they
could trade for picks and completely rebuild.

601
00:40:24,079 --> 00:40:28,559
At that plane, it completely changes
the entire franchise. So like, I

602
00:40:28,599 --> 00:40:32,119
don't love the idea despite it being
the most likely scenario, but I will

603
00:40:32,199 --> 00:40:37,360
say that there is something too.
If you can stick with something and figure

604
00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:40,960
it out and things eventually fall your
way, like, it could still be

605
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:45,920
a different outcome because you've brought up
the finals. Does anyone here feel like

606
00:40:46,159 --> 00:40:52,039
the Clippers and the seven game series
fully healthy couldn't beat the Miami Heat.

607
00:40:52,119 --> 00:40:55,239
When I see the Miami Heat beat
Denver in Denver the other night, it

608
00:40:55,280 --> 00:41:01,320
makes me think they're not this crazy
Golden State Warriors from twenty seventeen team with

609
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:07,280
Kevin Durant. The Clippers I still
think would have had a chance healthy against

610
00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:09,159
the Denver Nuggets. And if you
get past them, look you get an

611
00:41:09,159 --> 00:41:13,719
AC that meets you in the NBA
Finals. You know, I don't think

612
00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:16,400
it's that crazy to run it back
and hope for better luck is Kelly was

613
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:21,639
talking about early with injuries. Yeah, I think the hoping for better luck

614
00:41:21,639 --> 00:41:25,800
thing is where people are just tired, which the other side of that is

615
00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:30,760
just hoping to make the playoffs in
a rebuild. Yeah, that's what you

616
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:34,119
want. The grass is always greener. I mean that's the issue. Yeah,

617
00:41:34,119 --> 00:41:36,199
I do want that because the grass
is always greener. And in my

618
00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:38,360
head, that scenario would go perfectly
and we'd be the eighth seed. And

619
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:45,119
I don't know, I think,
I don't know if the clip I think

620
00:41:45,119 --> 00:41:49,480
the Clippers versus Heat team. Part
of me thinks the Heat would demoralize them

621
00:41:49,519 --> 00:41:53,119
by kind of doing all the things
the Clippers like kind of say they're about

622
00:41:53,159 --> 00:41:57,079
and like the hustle and stuff like
that. But this Heat team has a

623
00:41:57,159 --> 00:42:00,119
hustle and determination that feels that's greater
than any point we saw on the Clippers

624
00:42:00,199 --> 00:42:05,760
last My favorite hustle trait is just
absurd three point shooting that's like the best.

625
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:09,400
I would love that. Yeah,
it doesn't happen to us. They

626
00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:13,840
willed it. I'm sorry, but
I've seen Kawhi Leonard beat a much better

627
00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:16,639
Philadelphia seventy six ers team with Jimmy
Butler, and he has wrecked him in

628
00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:21,280
his career. I think the Clippers
would win that series, they still would

629
00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:22,840
have to get there. They have
to get by Denver. That's the real

630
00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:27,559
issue. I'm just saying. Would
you see the Miami Heat being able to

631
00:42:27,599 --> 00:42:30,480
beat Denver in Denver? I think
that was their first home loss of the

632
00:42:30,519 --> 00:42:35,199
playoffs. I don't think there's that
insurmountable of an opponent to overcome in the

633
00:42:35,199 --> 00:42:38,599
West right now, It's still has
a window that's open for the Clippers to

634
00:42:38,599 --> 00:42:43,599
try to find a way to crash
through, like Chris Varley Kelly. Next

635
00:42:43,679 --> 00:42:47,599
year is Clippers versus eight seed.
We'll see what happens. But you know,

636
00:42:47,639 --> 00:42:52,159
it's like we're talking about Denver,
but let's not forget how great Sacramento

637
00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:53,840
is. We don't know what Golden
State's gonna do. It's like the West

638
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:58,559
is always wide open. So even
you know, whatever moves we do,

639
00:42:58,679 --> 00:43:00,719
other teams they're doing moves as well. So I think that's something to keep

640
00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:05,760
in mind. And you know,
we see how young Sacramento is. I

641
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:07,800
think they're only going to get better. They've got a chip on their shoulder

642
00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:10,559
now. They have a lot to
prove, so it's not just done for

643
00:43:10,639 --> 00:43:14,639
you guys, So we'll see what
happens. But that's why the regular season

644
00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:17,199
is going to be that much more
important. Yeah, we need people who

645
00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:21,440
care on the regular season. It's
funny too, because wide open. I

646
00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:23,119
think when people hear the phrase,
oh, the conference is wide open,

647
00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:27,679
there's an idea that it's not as
good as it usually is. Where the

648
00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:31,400
West is wide open in the sense
that there's just twelve really good teams,

649
00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:35,880
so like anyone could be the tip. It's not like there's like, oh,

650
00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:37,079
it's wide open, it's kind of
messy. It's wide open in the

651
00:43:37,119 --> 00:43:43,840
sense that everyone is really good for
the most part. Man, I know

652
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:45,920
it's only June seventh, but I
just want basketball to come back so we

653
00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:50,199
can actually dry. I'm ready for
October. I'm like you know, other

654
00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:53,280
people they're ready for Halloween. I'm
just ready for I'm ready for the season.

655
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:55,519
You know, it's always that withdrawal
you kind of go through. It's

656
00:43:55,519 --> 00:43:59,280
like, I'm miss Clippers basketball,
but I been watching highlight reels at the

657
00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:02,960
gym, and you know, the
Clippers just posted one today season season highlights

658
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:07,480
with everybody, and it's you know, a walkdown memory lane hopefully. You

659
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:09,760
know, they even has some Don
Wall plays in there. It's like,

660
00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:13,840
oh man, what could have been? You know, but we have it.

661
00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:15,719
We have it. I think,
you know, when you talk about

662
00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:19,360
you know, Miami, the one
thing you can tell that these guys are

663
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:22,840
brothers. They genuinely love to play
with each other. And I think that's

664
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:25,000
a big thing that we're missing and
that's something that we need to give back.

665
00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:30,239
Chemistry is so important. Get me
wrong when I talk about the heat.

666
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:35,119
Their chemistry and culture and the way
they're peaking right now is off the

667
00:44:35,199 --> 00:44:37,599
charts. They're great. They could
end up somehow winning this series. They

668
00:44:37,639 --> 00:44:40,679
win tonight, they're up two games
to one, and they already have home

669
00:44:40,679 --> 00:44:45,360
court advantage back in their favor.
I just feel like still a lot of

670
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:47,679
it comes down to talent, and
that's why the Clippers would come into that

671
00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:51,760
first game with Kawhi, Leonard and
Phoenix and just punch them in the mouth

672
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:54,719
like that. They are that good. If they're fully healthy, there's certainly

673
00:44:54,760 --> 00:45:00,440
more talented team. They have to
gain some of that other experience and culture

674
00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:04,840
and fostered, you know, just
a little bit more of a direction.

675
00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:07,440
As we talked about earlier that this
franchise needs to go in and maybe find

676
00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:10,840
the right guys for the locker room
to help with leadership. But I don't

677
00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:15,880
think there is as far away as
some people believe they are. I guess

678
00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:17,920
where I'm coming from. I think
we need the sleuth and not speculating to

679
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:21,320
go give the team a pep talk
in the off season. That's what I

680
00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:25,519
genuinely think. Um, they're not
listening to that. That about wraps everything

681
00:45:25,559 --> 00:45:28,760
up. Kelly, Thank you so
much for joining us. Thank you for

682
00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:30,679
the work you do as a Clippers
fan at Good Day LA. We need

683
00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:34,840
more Clippers representation. You know,
I really try. That is my mission.

684
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:38,639
You talk to anyone in that news
or rust me. I'm trying to

685
00:45:38,639 --> 00:45:42,119
fight the good fight. Of course, you know, in my role,

686
00:45:42,199 --> 00:45:45,079
I have to be as fair as
I can. Got to cover the Lakers

687
00:45:45,079 --> 00:45:47,679
too. It is Los Angeles.
But yes, I am trying, you

688
00:45:47,679 --> 00:45:52,280
guys, I'm doing my best.
That is wonderful. Where can these wonderful

689
00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:57,239
people find your work where they can
where they can see you pushing the agenda

690
00:45:57,559 --> 00:46:00,119
for the Clippers? You know,
so usually you know I'm a tweet I

691
00:46:00,199 --> 00:46:05,079
have been quiet on social media because
there is the sadness. I'm taking a

692
00:46:05,159 --> 00:46:07,960
break. You know, NBA Twitter
a bad idea. Twitter was pretty toxic

693
00:46:08,039 --> 00:46:16,480
this last season. I don't know. Oh my god is mostly will I

694
00:46:16,519 --> 00:46:20,000
had to take a step back,
you know when when the flans were final.

695
00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:22,559
I can't you guys. But anyway, So yeah at Twitter, Um,

696
00:46:22,639 --> 00:46:27,000
you can find me at Kelly Johnson
TV Kelly with an Eye and on

697
00:46:27,039 --> 00:46:30,960
Instagram you can follow my fitness journey
at just Kelly Johnson. And yeah,

698
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:35,400
you can read my work on fox
LA dot com. There we go.

699
00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:37,079
Well, thank you so much for
coming on. The show was wonderful to

700
00:46:37,159 --> 00:46:40,280
have you. We are going to
be back next week with Law Murray Slate.

701
00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:45,760
We've got a bunch of wonderful guests. I should probably text him back

702
00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:47,360
and let him know that little reminder. Hey, Law, we already Seezy

703
00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:52,440
out in the last episode. You
better come on and no embarrass me and

704
00:46:52,519 --> 00:46:55,239
the scheduling. Her record has made
it appearance in like every single video I've

705
00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:59,199
posted. If you see a red
tape recorder, that is his. He's

706
00:46:59,199 --> 00:47:04,440
a good guy. That'll yes,
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707
00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:07,119
report everyone who are support everyone who
works for the Clippers. So you

708
00:47:07,119 --> 00:47:10,280
can support us by giving us some
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709
00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:14,920
this podcast if they felt so uncline? You can review us over on Apple

710
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711
00:47:17,599 --> 00:47:21,559
on either one of those platforms.
We're also on Google Podcasts, We're on

712
00:47:21,599 --> 00:47:23,119
Stitching, We're on dec We're on
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713
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you can listen to show check us
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714
00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:30,719
dot com slash Clippers Podcast. I
think if not, you're missing out.

715
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:35,639
You absolutely are. Adam anything to
send these wonderful fans off from the middle

716
00:47:35,679 --> 00:47:38,119
of their week two. No,
I just want to correct myself from earlier

717
00:47:38,119 --> 00:47:44,320
and say it one more time at
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718
00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:52,039
on YouTube, opposite opposite, you
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719
00:47:52,119 --> 00:47:58,400
Pod on Twitter, Clippers podcast on
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