WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.080 --> 00:00:02.879 Hello how very good afternoon, I am Karan Ramírez and we are in one 2 00:00:02.879 --> 00:00:06.519 more broadcast dir Radio design him in your ears and I am very happy because 3 00:00:06.559 --> 00:00:09.519 we are still here in the new season, in capo labor, that we 4 00:00:09.519 --> 00:00:12.919 are in the street of San Luis, potosi hundred and thirteen, here in 5 00:00:12.919 --> 00:00:15.439 the colony Rome. Come and take a turn,' cause it' s 6 00:00:15.480 --> 00:00:18.480 a high- design showrm. So here you are going to find incredible furniture, 7 00:00:18.679 --> 00:00:21.920 give yourself, a little twist, either for your own things, your 8 00:00:21.960 --> 00:00:25.039 own house or for your projects, because it is amazing. So come for 9 00:00:25.079 --> 00:00:29.440 a ride. And because I' m really excited and I' ve already 10 00:00:29.480 --> 00:00:34.399 felt old age here, they look at the Asian, because Ahorita is visiting 11 00:00:34.479 --> 00:00:40.479 us a very new office in Toluca, but very new, that is, 12 00:00:40.560 --> 00:00:46.240 they have like two months, that is, registered in faith in the Government 13 00:00:46.320 --> 00:00:50.799 of Mexico. I believe this and the truth is, yes. He' 14 00:00:50.840 --> 00:00:56.479 s very young and I didn' t want the truth guys this, but 15 00:00:56.600 --> 00:00:59.960 this is doing amazing things back in Toluca and I' m very happy. 16 00:01:00.079 --> 00:01:03.359 They are three architectural points and is with me here, Angel and Susana how 17 00:01:03.359 --> 00:01:06.840 they are. All right, you' re a lot of runners to get 18 00:01:06.840 --> 00:01:10.959 no. Thank you so much for visiting Mexico. I' m not going 19 00:01:11.159 --> 00:01:12.959 to heat him up. I don' t know how they' re in 20 00:01:12.959 --> 00:01:17.400 everything that' s in my good, a little bit lighter I feel here 21 00:01:17.480 --> 00:01:19.599 there' s that it' s cooler. You know me. I' 22 00:01:19.640 --> 00:01:23.159 m going to Dor Mira. We are going to stand it listen how good 23 00:01:23.239 --> 00:01:29.159 that they visit us and I am very happy to know that because young people 24 00:01:29.760 --> 00:01:33.319 are venting to the wheel of this, of the architecture, Sometimes easy, 25 00:01:33.680 --> 00:01:34.040 other times not so much. But I' ll give them that. All 26 00:01:34.079 --> 00:01:38.959 the fortunes of the world are very new and have a lot to learn and 27 00:01:38.959 --> 00:01:41.879 many things they lack to live. But it' s good that they' 28 00:01:42.000 --> 00:01:48.359 re teaming up It gives me a lot of, like, trans and I 29 00:01:48.480 --> 00:01:49.359 wanted to start this big interview asking who Angel is. I think Angel is 30 00:01:49.400 --> 00:01:55.120 like a I don' t know well, it' s very quiet in 31 00:01:55.120 --> 00:01:57.439 itself, I mean, it can be the storm on one side and I 32 00:01:57.599 --> 00:02:02.000 ' m very quiet, I mean you' ve blue seen everything, I 33 00:02:02.000 --> 00:02:07.200 mean we can already be falling everything and I say Right now it' s 34 00:02:07.239 --> 00:02:08.319 going to be quiet, but I think it' s a big part that 35 00:02:08.319 --> 00:02:10.319 can define me, I mean, very quiet. This one I don' 36 00:02:10.400 --> 00:02:13.840 t know the same I like, obviously, well, to get out of 37 00:02:13.960 --> 00:02:16.759 all that, because it' s not always to be in the office or 38 00:02:16.840 --> 00:02:17.840 in the computer designing, that is to say to go out knowing by want 39 00:02:17.840 --> 00:02:21.319 or not. Every time you go out, they give you more ideas than 40 00:02:21.400 --> 00:02:24.240 you can do, which is a constant innovation. Practically all this ok, 41 00:02:24.639 --> 00:02:28.719 then I also like to go out having fun, i e know more than 42 00:02:28.719 --> 00:02:32.319 anything. Well, all right, angel are your healthy ones. Quite the 43 00:02:32.400 --> 00:02:38.159 opposite. Look, we' re like balance. Jing Jangle is very quiet. 44 00:02:38.599 --> 00:02:42.199 I' m super emotional, ay or I don' t know, 45 00:02:42.319 --> 00:02:46.439 for example, it has to be all well controlled, well yes as I 46 00:02:46.439 --> 00:02:53.199 plan. If I' m not an emotional sea, you just don' 47 00:02:53.199 --> 00:03:04.639 t want to go. Thanks to g we have had bad experiences with virguity 48 00:03:05.000 --> 00:03:08.479 to but yes, but man, that is the truth, yes, no 49 00:03:08.479 --> 00:03:13.039 yes, yes. I' m very emotional, but still. A very 50 00:03:13.080 --> 00:03:15.800 important part of why I like to share with Angel and why we became partners 51 00:03:15.879 --> 00:03:20.520 is because we make a great team, not only at work, but also 52 00:03:20.599 --> 00:03:23.680 in life in general. I mean, I realized it' s like my 53 00:03:23.759 --> 00:03:25.879 balance, I mean, if I' m very stressed, very sad, 54 00:03:27.400 --> 00:03:30.240 very happy, so is he always, and as well as quiet, I 55 00:03:30.280 --> 00:03:32.319 mean, everything' s going to be okay, we' re going to 56 00:03:32.400 --> 00:03:36.520 do this and it' s going to be great. What a father Gerie 57 00:03:36.520 --> 00:03:38.800 hears, why you spat architecture. You said I' m going this way. 58 00:03:39.000 --> 00:03:43.759 It was more like a matter of school, because, well, high 59 00:03:43.759 --> 00:03:46.039 school. I had a matter that was tectonic design, as such they give 60 00:03:46.080 --> 00:03:51.520 you a little bit of a look at the drawing that you have to be 61 00:03:51.599 --> 00:03:53.840 flat all that because I don' t start that you' re a doctor. 62 00:03:53.199 --> 00:03:57.800 Then it was a completely radical change. So in those three years and 63 00:03:57.840 --> 00:04:00.240 I don' t remember that the course that matter was like not telling me 64 00:04:00.599 --> 00:04:02.800 it' s not not being in a hospital, but being a little bit 65 00:04:02.840 --> 00:04:05.759 more pentible in a matter of work, in a matter of design, which 66 00:04:05.800 --> 00:04:09.560 is what I like most, a little more. So it was like that 67 00:04:09.639 --> 00:04:14.560 this change practically the high school was the one that told me you are not 68 00:04:14.800 --> 00:04:19.600 going to saw to medicine, but a detection looks at nothing more oceanic, 69 00:04:19.839 --> 00:04:24.319 because architecture I equal to the beginning, that is to say from little that 70 00:04:24.319 --> 00:04:28.759 they are asking you what you want to be big here you want to dedicate 71 00:04:28.879 --> 00:04:30.480 and so it said Medicine, Medicine, Medicine and I don' t know 72 00:04:31.040 --> 00:04:34.040 that there are times in life that you cling to something much, but today 73 00:04:34.120 --> 00:04:34.800 the so is the life itself, like that your destiny is telling you there. 74 00:04:34.839 --> 00:04:38.839 It' s not there, no, but you' re not a 75 00:04:38.839 --> 00:04:42.519 fool and you hang on. I know, but still in high school I 76 00:04:42.759 --> 00:04:47.079 was in technical high school. Then there I took a career in industrial technical 77 00:04:47.079 --> 00:04:50.399 drawing. Okay, so, from there my teachers told me how you don 78 00:04:50.399 --> 00:04:53.680 ' t have to study architecture, I mean, you have to study architecture. 79 00:04:53.720 --> 00:04:55.800 And I don' t know that I nesia, no, no, 80 00:04:56.360 --> 00:04:59.319 no medicine, until later, because I did my test, in fact, 81 00:04:59.600 --> 00:05:02.160 for medical school, and I didn' t stay anymore. From there I 82 00:05:02.160 --> 00:05:06.519 started to see my options and I said to see Susana focus on what you 83 00:05:06.639 --> 00:05:10.720 really like, no, which is what you' re passionate about, why 84 00:05:10.800 --> 00:05:14.120 you wanted to study medicine. First of all. Then I began to think 85 00:05:14.199 --> 00:05:17.199 about many things and saw that, since my talent, as such, had 86 00:05:17.360 --> 00:05:20.920 always been more focused, the design, architecture, everything I had to see. 87 00:05:21.360 --> 00:05:25.079 Same. I' m a very artist I' ve always said, 88 00:05:25.240 --> 00:05:29.079 I mean, like I really like to occupy my hands, draw, make 89 00:05:29.079 --> 00:05:30.000 models. It' s something I' m very passionate about. So, 90 00:05:30.519 --> 00:05:33.399 that' s why and the career in my general, that is, I 91 00:05:33.439 --> 00:05:39.160 feel that, yes, I did very well in general, as well, 92 00:05:39.240 --> 00:05:43.879 without all the subjects. So, then, that' s why I feel 93 00:05:43.959 --> 00:05:47.600 like I' m focusing a little bit more, because that' s what 94 00:05:47.600 --> 00:05:53.839 father and when you said, because we make a good team, let' 95 00:05:53.879 --> 00:05:58.279 s do something, because I think it all started when we decided in an 96 00:05:58.319 --> 00:05:59.120 office previously working and I was already there and it came a little after I 97 00:05:59.120 --> 00:06:00.279 in. So, it' s like, at first, we didn' 98 00:06:00.399 --> 00:06:03.160 t work out because I already had military stuff on mine. Not then as 99 00:06:03.199 --> 00:06:06.000 we sincerely greeted each other and already, in a nutshell, he liked you 100 00:06:06.040 --> 00:06:15.439 badly is that he earned a lot and a gallo yesterday hello, hello entrepreneur, 101 00:06:15.800 --> 00:06:18.079 yes, the truth, but already flower r is changing. Yeah, 102 00:06:18.759 --> 00:06:23.439 I mean, we had a friend in common. Rather he was our boss, 103 00:06:23.920 --> 00:06:27.839 the architect Carlos Zarzate, who is surely listening to us we were already 104 00:06:28.040 --> 00:06:30.839 greetings, yes, and that he was like good, he has been like 105 00:06:30.959 --> 00:06:33.240 our mentor and all that always supported us and he told us that then go 106 00:06:33.240 --> 00:06:35.439 ahead, that is, in everything they need we support them. But before 107 00:06:35.439 --> 00:06:39.120 that, we had him as in common. No, he was a close 108 00:06:39.240 --> 00:06:43.079 friend of Angel' s and he was also a close friend of mine, 109 00:06:43.439 --> 00:06:46.800 and then, one day he left where we were. So we got him 110 00:06:46.839 --> 00:06:49.680 and me and we started to become very friends, I mean, we were 111 00:06:49.759 --> 00:06:55.040 already starting to talk and we started to realize that we were already going on 112 00:06:55.120 --> 00:06:57.439 as projects together and we started to realize that we worked super well together. 113 00:06:57.560 --> 00:07:00.439 I mean, yes, at the time of designing like we had the same 114 00:07:00.519 --> 00:07:02.639 ideas, like everything tertile, he could be thinking about something and I would 115 00:07:02.680 --> 00:07:05.519 say it or the other way around I don' t know, I mean, 116 00:07:05.720 --> 00:07:12.120 it' s like we read people as connected, aha then it' 117 00:07:12.199 --> 00:07:16.399 s something that, yes, we realized that we connected well, ok and 118 00:07:16.519 --> 00:07:21.759 then several problems happened, as in the gossip part that we were talking to 119 00:07:21.839 --> 00:07:28.120 me and it' s very attentive, no, because yes, really, 120 00:07:28.720 --> 00:07:32.959 because the idea of three points was born as of then problems that we started 121 00:07:33.000 --> 00:07:39.240 to have there where we were, that really, Angel and I, because 122 00:07:39.319 --> 00:07:44.800 we took the boat alone and then we said why we didn' t get 123 00:07:44.800 --> 00:07:48.199 involved, because to do it, you and I could not or it was 124 00:07:48.319 --> 00:07:54.160 something that really ours, and then, Angel told me that yes, it 125 00:07:55.560 --> 00:07:58.959 seemed right, and here we' re crazy what good and why three points 126 00:08:00.360 --> 00:08:03.600 architecture, but what it' s called yes, it' s a complicated 127 00:08:03.680 --> 00:08:05.120 thing, it' s kind of weird, but it' s that I 128 00:08:05.120 --> 00:08:07.399 ' m celebrating three of April. Let' s say that what sounds to 129 00:08:07.519 --> 00:08:11.199 us both the three, so to speak the same as we try to give 130 00:08:11.399 --> 00:08:16.839 it as a well, as something a concept, for example, the three 131 00:08:16.759 --> 00:08:20.199 because it is the sides that have a triangle aha. So, for me 132 00:08:20.240 --> 00:08:24.120 the triangle is like my favorite geometric figure. As for me the triangle is 133 00:08:24.199 --> 00:08:26.720 balance, that is, in the position where you put it it will always 134 00:08:26.759 --> 00:08:31.600 be in balance. So, the same is that and three points is like 135 00:08:31.639 --> 00:08:33.919 there' s no end point, it' s three points because something else 136 00:08:33.919 --> 00:08:37.559 is always coming. Mm- hmm Okay, and they' re celebrating May 137 00:08:37.559 --> 00:08:43.240 three. Yes, I think that three more beds, the three father how 138 00:08:43.320 --> 00:08:48.879 good that, that is, they saw as each one' s abilities and 139 00:08:48.120 --> 00:08:52.120 put in balances and then we' re going to do what we do is 140 00:08:52.120 --> 00:08:58.399 very drilling. Then they formally have two months, three fomente yes, because 141 00:08:58.480 --> 00:09:05.600 we made an opening. Oh, it wasn' t for the anniversary and 142 00:09:05.639 --> 00:09:13.919 you' re gonna be there already Good state of honor to the mother, 143 00:09:13.320 --> 00:09:16.039 the mother of theño centers. Yes, please, yes not if we, 144 00:09:16.519 --> 00:09:20.799 that is, when we get out of here from where I tell you, 145 00:09:20.159 --> 00:09:24.000 we spend some time planning the first thing right, that is, seeing 146 00:09:24.159 --> 00:09:28.679 what we were going to do as a first step that this, how we 147 00:09:28.679 --> 00:09:31.159 were going to start where we were going to work, that is, seeing 148 00:09:31.159 --> 00:09:33.720 everything that mistakes, that we didn' t want to repeat, that we 149 00:09:33.720 --> 00:09:35.639 had seen where we were. We really know that we' re obviously going 150 00:09:35.639 --> 00:09:39.159 to be wrong. That happens, it happens to the most experienced architects we 151 00:09:39.240 --> 00:09:43.720 know well, but because it is also about not making the mistakes that you 152 00:09:43.799 --> 00:09:46.919 already saw, that do not carry the sound. Not then, like we 153 00:09:46.960 --> 00:09:48.759 sat down to talk about all that, about what we were going to do, 154 00:09:50.080 --> 00:09:54.080 how we were going to do it, and when we had like everything 155 00:09:54.159 --> 00:09:58.720 structured, we started planning an opening together with our accomplice in all this, 156 00:10:00.159 --> 00:10:03.440 our manager told them that she has been my sister in all this process, 157 00:10:03.559 --> 00:10:07.559 that she has also supported us, and she started to help us organize the 158 00:10:09.399 --> 00:10:11.120 opening that, because we all went super well the same. And from there, 159 00:10:11.200 --> 00:10:13.159 we count already in the time we have, it' s already two 160 00:10:13.240 --> 00:10:18.159 months. All right. What a father, because everything has been very fast 161 00:10:18.159 --> 00:10:20.440 yes, yes, everything is very fast, already, except the cogos are 162 00:10:20.480 --> 00:10:24.799 ten years. Pum when we quote him, but well I' m sorry 163 00:10:24.879 --> 00:10:31.080 already you hurt your knee luxury, but well I' m really glad that 164 00:10:31.759 --> 00:10:37.399 talent so young, because it' s doing dumbbell and it' s doing 165 00:10:37.480 --> 00:10:43.679 amazing things, especially that they' re doing things in a city that isn 166 00:10:43.679 --> 00:10:46.200 ' t so or so, it' s not for us, for example, 167 00:10:46.200 --> 00:10:46.360 that we' re in Mexico City. Here we are I' m 168 00:10:46.360 --> 00:10:52.919 on satellite, because so referring to Toluca, I don' t mean, 169 00:10:52.200 --> 00:10:56.960 it' s not like such an exponential reference you places, because they' 170 00:10:56.960 --> 00:11:01.639 re doing things there. No yes, of course the train one we green 171 00:11:01.679 --> 00:11:03.840 with thanks, we recorded eagerly. Yeah, it' s really the only 172 00:11:03.919 --> 00:11:09.279 reason he' s identifying himself. So I' m really glad that, 173 00:11:09.519 --> 00:11:13.200 because you' re doing as well as about some outstanding, hot stuff, 174 00:11:13.480 --> 00:11:16.480 because, because what you' re talking about there is amazing, what a 175 00:11:16.519 --> 00:11:20.000 father and how about these two months working together, how the team situation is 176 00:11:20.000 --> 00:11:22.919 going. It' s just that, as we say, it' s 177 00:11:24.000 --> 00:11:26.320 like the same thing. Obviously, here is no longer the same burden, 178 00:11:26.440 --> 00:11:28.480 so to speak, of you having your schedule and if something happens in the 179 00:11:28.559 --> 00:11:33.720 office and anything that doesn' t happen to us, but there is already 180 00:11:33.720 --> 00:11:35.960 a sale as owners, so to speak, and we have to take care 181 00:11:35.960 --> 00:11:39.080 of it both at work and at the office, all together so that everything 182 00:11:39.080 --> 00:11:41.840 goes well. Okay and also that is, then they do do everything complete, 183 00:11:41.120 --> 00:11:43.639 both the project and the work. Yes, yes, right now, 184 00:11:45.080 --> 00:11:50.120 already speaking a little more like projects we, when we worked in the other 185 00:11:50.240 --> 00:11:54.320 office came a project that, well, among so many problems that there was, 186 00:11:54.519 --> 00:11:56.960 then, one of them was that no, because they did not give 187 00:11:58.000 --> 00:12:01.679 the customers as such the attention, although because it must be given to a 188 00:12:01.799 --> 00:12:05.399 client, not then, but like we made good friendship with them and when 189 00:12:05.879 --> 00:12:09.679 we went out and saw all our stories of the opening and that we were 190 00:12:09.759 --> 00:12:13.759 already together and all that, they themselves looked to us already as three points. 191 00:12:16.039 --> 00:12:18.639 And the truth is that it is a project that has evolved a lot 192 00:12:18.720 --> 00:12:22.799 from the beginning, because they are the same, they are very young. 193 00:12:22.120 --> 00:12:28.960 I always say it. They are very small entrepreneurs, but small as old, 194 00:12:28.480 --> 00:12:33.679 but very large. Already with everything they' ve done. Then they 195 00:12:33.919 --> 00:12:37.559 have shops as pet accessories, and some of those stores already have vets and 196 00:12:37.879 --> 00:12:43.639 the part of themselves to the aesthetic part, they already have currently between Toluca, 197 00:12:45.120 --> 00:12:48.960 Metepec and Lermo, Bueno and surroundings. Surroundings have twenty- two branches. 198 00:12:50.279 --> 00:12:54.840 So, right now, with them we' re doing all their renovation, 199 00:12:54.120 --> 00:12:58.000 already integrating as their brand, because they were just like opening branches, 200 00:12:58.440 --> 00:13:01.559 but they weren' t giving them an idea. Then we are hand in 201 00:13:01.600 --> 00:13:05.840 hand with them, for yes, by making them first, because the design. 202 00:13:05.759 --> 00:13:09.519 Yeah, and right now, we' re focusing on its facades, 203 00:13:09.840 --> 00:13:11.840 which is on the projects Well, the work we' re doing right now. 204 00:13:11.679 --> 00:13:16.679 We' ve finished one, we' re missing two, because we 205 00:13:16.799 --> 00:13:18.759 ' re doing as the concept of three facades, three points. Then we 206 00:13:18.799 --> 00:13:24.279 ' re going to go three, three and three metaphysicians. We stop with 207 00:13:24.399 --> 00:13:28.440 the three aha and also important point to one of the owners of them are 208 00:13:28.480 --> 00:13:33.639 also favorite number of the three. Then he had to connect. Then we 209 00:13:33.639 --> 00:13:35.919 are. We' re excited, very excited about that project. They think 210 00:13:35.960 --> 00:13:39.960 so too with us. I hope it goes on. And so we are 211 00:13:41.320 --> 00:13:46.679 right now as a very good work and in projects like Ahorita. What are 212 00:13:46.759 --> 00:13:50.279 they doing apart from those works, what else are they doing, Ahorita. 213 00:13:50.360 --> 00:13:52.639 Yeah, we got two more projects than one. It' s equally stuck 214 00:13:52.639 --> 00:13:56.320 it' s right in the center of Metepellin that in itself what the customers 215 00:13:56.320 --> 00:13:58.440 wanted was good. They have a six by twenty- two fit, if 216 00:13:58.519 --> 00:14:03.159 I don' t remember, it' s very compact, but no longer 217 00:14:03.440 --> 00:14:05.960 there is a house down for the parents in this case and above to establish 218 00:14:05.960 --> 00:14:11.480 apartments for the children. So we started out as that foray that everything looks 219 00:14:11.559 --> 00:14:16.120 good for obviously, by how that metepect center has a different regulation, so 220 00:14:16.200 --> 00:14:20.639 to speak. So, we try to adapt to that and stever how it 221 00:14:20.240 --> 00:14:24.200 adapts to that and to the measurements of the terrain, because I do not 222 00:14:24.320 --> 00:14:26.480 know if you have seen that then on Facebook they appear, as in the 223 00:14:26.519 --> 00:14:31.840 houses of Yucatán, not that they are aha are a Band- Aid, 224 00:14:33.120 --> 00:14:35.879 so it is underground type of them. Then it was a challenge like adapting 225 00:14:35.960 --> 00:14:41.279 complete departments at the top for four children, then adapting complete departments to them 226 00:14:41.320 --> 00:14:43.879 independent, because they already look like everyone has their space. Yes, it 227 00:14:45.039 --> 00:14:46.919 has been a challenge that, besides, everyone goes to the meeting. Not 228 00:14:48.000 --> 00:14:50.279 then, yes, it is so that ideas from one and from another, 229 00:14:50.639 --> 00:14:54.200 that is, everyone who, because everyone thinks, brings their ideas, but 230 00:14:54.200 --> 00:14:56.159 the same. The truth is, with them, we' ve done super 231 00:14:56.159 --> 00:14:58.759 well anyway, it hasn' t been. We don' t have a 232 00:14:58.840 --> 00:15:03.159 story that we don' t treat ourselves super bad. They are already more 233 00:15:03.200 --> 00:15:09.279 so far they are or had not, but yes yes, or that most 234 00:15:09.399 --> 00:15:13.279 of so because there is one that must already cool down encouraged. We' 235 00:15:15.679 --> 00:15:18.639 re going to play his covers here, and yes, the truth is. 236 00:15:18.159 --> 00:15:22.159 Hey, well, I really like it. I' m glad you' 237 00:15:22.159 --> 00:15:26.759 re still doing things like that back in East Toluca and because, in eight 238 00:15:26.840 --> 00:15:30.799 years of di Radio, I' m very honest with you. We had 239 00:15:30.840 --> 00:15:35.039 never talked about Toluca, ok eight years of d Radio, we had never 240 00:15:35.159 --> 00:15:39.799 talked about an office that was there because it was doing things there in Toluca. 241 00:15:41.720 --> 00:15:43.240 So yes, it' s something that does shock me to say, 242 00:15:43.519 --> 00:15:54.480 because that is to say that I uf that if I already knew I had 243 00:15:54.679 --> 00:15:58.159 that May stress, I don' t mean, the truth is that yes, 244 00:15:58.159 --> 00:16:03.639 Right now, I was thinking to myself, Right now, that you 245 00:16:03.679 --> 00:16:07.799 were talking associated and I said it' s not that we haven' t 246 00:16:07.840 --> 00:16:11.960 had someone from Toluca, nor that you' re doing things there, which 247 00:16:12.440 --> 00:16:15.559 I find a bit regrettable, but also a huge opportunity for you to grow 248 00:16:15.559 --> 00:16:15.559 up not and above all, that you too have in a very important role. 249 00:16:15.639 --> 00:16:18.120 Now to say, because toluca is spoken, yes, beyond the train, 250 00:16:18.399 --> 00:16:22.039 to put it on the map, because just not toluca dance that is 251 00:16:22.200 --> 00:16:26.320 I remember I used to live here and I went there many things, but 252 00:16:26.360 --> 00:16:33.320 I remember that when I got to I already want girl. My friends here 253 00:16:33.320 --> 00:16:38.480 were telling me how about but or that there is a wig before the train, 254 00:16:38.639 --> 00:16:41.519 that is, really right now, yes, what is most talked about 255 00:16:41.639 --> 00:16:45.320 is the train. So, obviously we would like it at some point. 256 00:16:45.080 --> 00:16:49.240 I always said it to me. I would like, as if, to 257 00:16:49.360 --> 00:16:52.600 make myself like on the map, to put me an angel at three points 258 00:16:52.679 --> 00:16:56.440 on the map, for just, so that people realize that there is talent, 259 00:16:57.159 --> 00:17:07.200 only lack support. I come from the r and I see, that 260 00:17:07.240 --> 00:17:12.000 is to say, fellow students, when I met Angel I saw already in 261 00:17:12.000 --> 00:17:18.799 Toluca. I was just saying, why don' t you give yourselves a 262 00:17:18.799 --> 00:17:21.039 chance to see them. No, I mean, there' s a lot 263 00:17:21.160 --> 00:17:25.680 of very talented people who have almost no chance of anything. Of course then 264 00:17:25.759 --> 00:17:29.960 the fact that, for example, there in Toluca can not come as I 265 00:17:30.079 --> 00:17:33.000 do not know a museum, not know a museum, know not, for 266 00:17:33.000 --> 00:17:37.200 example, in the race, when they do the exhibitions of interior design here. 267 00:17:37.640 --> 00:17:40.640 I mean, it' s really hard to come over here and get 268 00:17:40.640 --> 00:17:41.960 to know all that. I mean, like I say, why isn' 269 00:17:41.079 --> 00:17:45.720 t there something like that back there in Toluca, why don' t you 270 00:17:45.920 --> 00:17:48.200 take this project there to Toluca? You mean like that kind of opportunity? 271 00:17:48.319 --> 00:17:53.319 I feel like they do, like they make skirts, and it just happened 272 00:17:53.400 --> 00:18:00.599 to me last year with guys of good, rather, Pachuca offices. At 273 00:18:00.480 --> 00:18:04.279 that time, seven years of radio, we had never had anyone from Pachuca 274 00:18:04.880 --> 00:18:07.880 and not even talk about a Pacheco project. Put the ball on, no, 275 00:18:11.640 --> 00:18:14.839 but not really. And last year we met three offices in Pachuca and 276 00:18:15.440 --> 00:18:22.960 it was like none of them knew each other. You tell me, you 277 00:18:22.000 --> 00:18:29.799 know another office in Toluca after readings, besides where we were. As such 278 00:18:29.960 --> 00:18:33.119 a firm I personally not and in fact, when you' re in the 279 00:18:33.160 --> 00:18:37.599 race and you want to do your internships, and all that is also super 280 00:18:37.599 --> 00:18:42.279 difficult, because finding as such an already consolidated office, that does like this 281 00:18:42.279 --> 00:18:47.599 kind of thing we want to do And all that, it' s not 282 00:18:47.680 --> 00:18:49.839 really that that' s a problem of centralizing everything in Mexico City. Yes, 283 00:18:51.440 --> 00:18:52.960 of the big cities, not just for example, in Monterrey or Guadalajara. 284 00:18:53.839 --> 00:18:59.839 They are also very centralized in the big cities, in the capitals and 285 00:19:00.000 --> 00:19:03.880 we let ourselves be seen around us and it happens that just like in Toluca, 286 00:19:04.359 --> 00:19:08.240 Pachuca there is no community of architects and when it comes to presenting them, 287 00:19:08.519 --> 00:19:18.559 I didn' t know that you lived in Pacha going on either there 288 00:19:18.680 --> 00:19:21.599 is, please, no and there are many people wondering is that what is 289 00:19:21.680 --> 00:19:25.519 in Pachuca, beyond the past, I mean, that is very good, 290 00:19:26.599 --> 00:19:33.200 by the way, those to Pachuca or there was no one and so far 291 00:19:33.319 --> 00:19:37.759 we continue to work and make plans with them to do something, not that 292 00:19:37.880 --> 00:19:41.319 it is going to be a community there in Pachuca, and I hope that 293 00:19:41.400 --> 00:19:45.039 we can also do it together with you everywhere, because yes, it seems 294 00:19:45.039 --> 00:19:48.160 to me something a serious middle problem, well, rather serious, that there 295 00:19:48.279 --> 00:19:52.880 is not, I don' t know, there is no community and that 296 00:19:52.000 --> 00:19:56.440 there are not doing things there and that have to be forced to come here, 297 00:19:56.839 --> 00:19:56.440 the City of Mexico, so that they know things or that happen. 298 00:19:56.799 --> 00:19:57.720 Yeah, sure. No. No. No. Don' t you? 299 00:19:57.799 --> 00:19:59.640 Don' t you? Don' t you? No. No. It 300 00:19:59.680 --> 00:20:02.519 seems fair to me because aside, they are not so far away, that 301 00:20:02.559 --> 00:20:07.680 is, when they took an hour almost of mima and here Pachuca is faster, 302 00:20:07.960 --> 00:20:10.359 because from here in my house, but that is an hour and a 303 00:20:10.440 --> 00:20:15.599 half already cheaper shelves, then to use not to mean, it becomes very 304 00:20:15.640 --> 00:20:19.200 very very surprising or that, being so close, there is no longer this 305 00:20:19.240 --> 00:20:22.440 kind of thing in these regions. But, well, we' ll put 306 00:20:22.480 --> 00:20:23.319 a solution to it, just like we' re doing things with someone in 307 00:20:23.319 --> 00:20:26.599 Pachuca. We' ll do it on your side and let you get the 308 00:20:26.599 --> 00:20:30.240 attention. I put myself on that flag and I' ll bet on it 309 00:20:30.359 --> 00:20:33.640 already, but I' m really glad you' re contributing, because you 310 00:20:33.680 --> 00:20:36.680 could be easy, so we' re going to Mexico City and we' 311 00:20:36.720 --> 00:20:41.119 re doing it there, but you didn' t decide to stay in that 312 00:20:41.119 --> 00:20:44.000 region. And what a good, good, that was a great task. 313 00:20:44.400 --> 00:20:48.480 Yes, really, because it is opening the way, not just for us 314 00:20:48.559 --> 00:20:52.279 and as for the generations to come. Oh, yeah, I already say 315 00:20:52.359 --> 00:20:57.400 it as I am, I' m not counting, already you tepita your 316 00:20:57.400 --> 00:21:03.440 card, already you like it and already they are one no yes, I 317 00:21:03.440 --> 00:21:06.279 mean, in general, for example, the simple fact of having an exhibition, 318 00:21:06.319 --> 00:21:10.680 no means, taking an exhibition beyond interior design should be possible, it 319 00:21:10.839 --> 00:21:15.359 should be something, of course, that we can do. Of course we 320 00:21:15.480 --> 00:21:18.440 will, and we will. We will. It will be my goal to 321 00:21:18.559 --> 00:21:22.279 leave at this time, so to choose you for Pachuca, for Autoluca. 322 00:21:25.319 --> 00:21:30.319 There was that problem. With that ending, you hear, well, I 323 00:21:30.359 --> 00:21:33.039 ' m very happy for you. I really feel like they' re gonna 324 00:21:33.119 --> 00:21:37.359 be doing great. I see them very determined, very committed to what they 325 00:21:37.440 --> 00:21:40.000 do, and I hope that it will continue to be so. I wish 326 00:21:40.119 --> 00:21:42.839 you all the best and I want you to tell me now about your design 327 00:21:42.839 --> 00:21:47.519 process. How are you disillusioning him from the moment he gets to the client, 328 00:21:47.680 --> 00:21:48.759 to you until you have to hand him over? How they are going 329 00:21:48.759 --> 00:21:53.240 to disaggregate it, because if always what we already do first is an aptic 330 00:21:53.319 --> 00:21:56.400 with the client, that is, to see their needs, which is what 331 00:21:56.480 --> 00:21:59.960 they need and what is good, more than anything to look for, not 332 00:21:59.960 --> 00:22:02.400 or be practical, because what we have, as very clear between me and 333 00:22:02.440 --> 00:22:04.000 so, is that they are going to live there, not clear or they 334 00:22:04.039 --> 00:22:08.640 are going to avoid that place more than we do, then give it a 335 00:22:08.680 --> 00:22:12.000 design as a whole, so much so that we are designing, but also 336 00:22:12.039 --> 00:22:15.359 they get a little more into the design part so that it is not just 337 00:22:15.440 --> 00:22:18.960 project of their and mine if it is not project of swine more apart from 338 00:22:18.960 --> 00:22:19.599 the clients, then what helps us. I think that' s it. 339 00:22:19.599 --> 00:22:23.559 And apart from and even to design what is almost always like more a talk, 340 00:22:25.119 --> 00:22:27.200 not to see what can be done that no and then to start already 341 00:22:27.200 --> 00:22:32.519 to design directly. Yes, because also something like that and in fact, 342 00:22:32.559 --> 00:22:36.680 we' ve put it as a campaign on our social networks is the fact 343 00:22:37.200 --> 00:22:41.000 that, for example, the client doesn' t always have, for example, 344 00:22:41.279 --> 00:22:45.519 you say, I charge so much per square meter, because sometimes the 345 00:22:45.640 --> 00:22:48.799 client doesn' t have that possibility. No, then I feel rather that 346 00:22:48.079 --> 00:22:52.359 one adapts as to the needs of the client, because sometimes he does not 347 00:22:52.440 --> 00:22:56.000 want to do the complete project, but he does want to have his plans 348 00:22:56.000 --> 00:22:57.559 already complete. But he' s not going to start doing it all at 349 00:22:57.640 --> 00:23:00.960 once. Then you can tell him we' re going this way, but 350 00:23:02.039 --> 00:23:03.920 you already have your full design so that at some point, if you don 351 00:23:04.039 --> 00:23:07.759 ' t want me to keep working with you, then you keep doing it 352 00:23:07.759 --> 00:23:10.559 as you wish. We design it clearly, so it' s more than 353 00:23:10.720 --> 00:23:14.599 nothing, because if you ask them what their needs are at the moment, 354 00:23:14.640 --> 00:23:17.880 what is your urgent? Because if you tell me I want my three- 355 00:23:18.119 --> 00:23:22.480 story house, but I don' t have the money to make it, 356 00:23:22.720 --> 00:23:26.000 because obviously I' m not going to force you to give me the full 357 00:23:26.039 --> 00:23:30.200 money to do the three- story work, then I' m going to 358 00:23:30.240 --> 00:23:33.039 ask you what your needs are? We look for, I don' t 359 00:23:33.119 --> 00:23:36.160 know, the best prices on the market and make it possible, that is, 360 00:23:36.519 --> 00:23:38.160 we make your first floor possible. Let' s say with this budget 361 00:23:38.200 --> 00:23:41.640 that you have right now and that, at the end of the day, 362 00:23:41.799 --> 00:23:44.720 your first floor is your first need, of course, because we can' 363 00:23:44.799 --> 00:23:45.839 t do the second floor without it coming from below. Isn' t it, 364 00:23:47.000 --> 00:23:48.640 then, yes, more than anything, to talk to the client? 365 00:23:48.079 --> 00:23:51.680 I' ve always said it, I mean, it' s super important 366 00:23:51.720 --> 00:23:53.559 for me to make the relationship, I mean, get along with the client. 367 00:23:53.680 --> 00:23:57.880 For me it' s very important then because already they kind of get 368 00:23:57.880 --> 00:24:02.720 more trust, so they already tell you how to hear Susana, is that 369 00:24:02.960 --> 00:24:07.759 because this problem is happening, Right now, I can' t know how 370 00:24:07.079 --> 00:24:10.200 to put the floor right now I, as I say, it' s 371 00:24:10.200 --> 00:24:14.960 okay. We really go according to their needs. And yes, indeed, 372 00:24:15.160 --> 00:24:18.880 the motto of us has always been that, as Angel said, they are 373 00:24:18.960 --> 00:24:22.400 the ones who are going to be there. We are the only ones who 374 00:24:22.480 --> 00:24:26.799 help them, we instruct them to make it more beautiful, that space works. 375 00:24:27.400 --> 00:24:30.119 But we' re done and we' re gone. They, for 376 00:24:30.200 --> 00:24:33.279 they will live there all their life then, for they must be at hand 377 00:24:33.319 --> 00:24:37.440 with us. Well, well, said so, because many times the architect 378 00:24:37.519 --> 00:24:42.960 forgets that he will not live there if, sometimes more the ego and wants 379 00:24:44.039 --> 00:24:49.880 to see his signature more than the need of the client. And I advise 380 00:24:49.920 --> 00:24:53.119 you not to put them on. Yeah, it' s something I answer 381 00:24:53.279 --> 00:24:56.279 because he' s really an architect. It' s just to solve the 382 00:24:56.319 --> 00:25:00.240 customer' s needs And many times the client won' t tell you what 383 00:25:00.319 --> 00:25:03.839 you need, but rather what he wants. And that' s when you 384 00:25:03.920 --> 00:25:07.319 have to go in as a psychologist, you have to see after seeing it 385 00:25:07.480 --> 00:25:10.799 is I see you need this, but you want something else. I mean, 386 00:25:11.240 --> 00:25:12.839 you also have to sit the customer down a lot. But how good 387 00:25:12.839 --> 00:25:18.039 that they are in that arrangement of dialogue because if it is a dialogue and 388 00:25:18.160 --> 00:25:22.480 it is always having communication with customers is vital and very important, because it 389 00:25:22.559 --> 00:25:23.359 is for them, it is not for me. Yeah, no, yeah, 390 00:25:23.640 --> 00:25:26.599 it' ll look really nice on the Portfolio, but after all, 391 00:25:26.880 --> 00:25:29.200 you don' t live there. The three hundred and sixty- five days 392 00:25:29.279 --> 00:25:32.640 of the year of the twenty- four seven are not they. So, 393 00:25:33.319 --> 00:25:37.200 yes, they must be listened to very much, and it is good that 394 00:25:37.200 --> 00:25:38.319 they lend themselves to it. That' s good, I' m very 395 00:25:38.440 --> 00:25:44.799 pleased and he does some sort of thing like we' re gonna put on 396 00:25:44.880 --> 00:25:47.279 some viros or before we get to work or something like that. What I 397 00:25:47.400 --> 00:25:51.519 love is to light candles, look at that pri I' m lighting a 398 00:25:51.519 --> 00:25:53.359 grandmother, so this is like for me that space smells rich, it' 399 00:25:53.960 --> 00:25:57.680 s very important, very good, I mean, you can hear noise, 400 00:25:57.880 --> 00:26:02.799 no matter if it' s music, a movie, because we are to 401 00:26:02.920 --> 00:26:03.559 put movies, even if we don' t see them, but we listen. 402 00:26:03.680 --> 00:26:07.319 Yeah, I make people like talk, so I kind of like that. 403 00:26:07.000 --> 00:26:10.880 But always, always, always has to get rich and I have to 404 00:26:10.880 --> 00:26:14.119 buy. I always have a candle on when we' re there in the 405 00:26:14.119 --> 00:26:21.519 office. That' s good, that' s it Yeah, yeah, 406 00:26:21.720 --> 00:26:26.519 yeah, Ria, I said to someone, the rat paints it, and 407 00:26:26.559 --> 00:26:26.559 I' ll be right back on what father and right now. You' 408 00:26:26.599 --> 00:26:30.039 re just the two of you, yes, but it' s fine. 409 00:26:30.240 --> 00:26:33.880 But there' s even something I really like to tell. It' s 410 00:26:33.960 --> 00:26:37.680 just that we bought a coffee maker. But when we were there buying it 411 00:26:38.200 --> 00:26:41.920 and everything I was looking at, for example, the cups? No, 412 00:26:41.079 --> 00:26:45.920 how many rates does this coffee maker have? And I was thinking and saying 413 00:26:45.920 --> 00:26:48.559 that I, at some point, bought the biggest captain. No, and 414 00:26:48.640 --> 00:26:52.079 I said that at some point I want to have a lot of people in 415 00:26:52.079 --> 00:26:56.000 the office, I mean, I know this coffee maker right now is for 416 00:26:56.079 --> 00:26:56.799 two, but in the future it' s going to be for twenty. 417 00:26:56.839 --> 00:27:00.839 And if I want no, I mean it' s like an idea, 418 00:27:00.440 --> 00:27:03.960 yeah, give it a chance about everything I was saying to you. Not 419 00:27:03.079 --> 00:27:07.200 that, for example, when someone wants to do their internships, they look 420 00:27:07.319 --> 00:27:11.319 for us and know that there they can send as their information their yield and, 421 00:27:11.759 --> 00:27:14.839 obviously, because we will be willing to support them. Of course, 422 00:27:14.920 --> 00:27:18.680 then, yes, I would like to have the next one working. Good, 423 00:27:18.960 --> 00:27:21.279 you' ll see what' s gonna happen soon. That' s 424 00:27:21.359 --> 00:27:23.480 by magic and suddenly it' s like there' s already a team of 425 00:27:23.559 --> 00:27:26.240 ten people and what time it happened. No, but that' s good, 426 00:27:26.400 --> 00:27:29.400 they' re on the right track. And if it' s a 427 00:27:29.519 --> 00:27:33.160 chambota to make it both, yes, yes, it already is, yes, 428 00:27:33.920 --> 00:27:37.440 but little by little they' re going to grow. They' re 429 00:27:37.480 --> 00:27:42.039 very small in terms of office, really, but little by little things are 430 00:27:42.079 --> 00:27:45.400 happening. I' m so glad you' re on your way. And 431 00:27:45.599 --> 00:27:51.279 so what would be for you as the project that you would love to see 432 00:27:51.359 --> 00:27:53.160 come to the Office, that is, it would grow. This would be 433 00:27:53.279 --> 00:27:59.400 the crown jewel of us. What would be angel Oh I never thought as 434 00:27:59.519 --> 00:28:03.400 such I told you not to think until now, so far five my pass 435 00:28:03.480 --> 00:28:07.319 it but I don' t know. For example, I would very much 436 00:28:07.400 --> 00:28:11.519 like in question something like where people can socialize, that is, a large 437 00:28:12.119 --> 00:28:17.599 space, so to speak, where there is obviously more interaction of people than 438 00:28:17.680 --> 00:28:21.119 of anything else, so to speak, in which we can be more present. 439 00:28:21.559 --> 00:28:23.200 Ok that is the simple fact that the best there is a slab like 440 00:28:23.359 --> 00:28:27.680 this or in a certain way change and give a different perspective of the architecture 441 00:28:27.680 --> 00:28:33.079 is being done very well. His for me would be walking on the side 442 00:28:33.319 --> 00:28:37.079 I always wanted to be a doctor. It would be a hospital for me. 443 00:28:37.519 --> 00:28:42.839 Okay, that' s the fact that I got to a hospital would 444 00:28:48.400 --> 00:28:52.240 be like I left no yes, that' s like I always said it, 445 00:28:52.519 --> 00:28:56.240 that' s when I started studying architecture and I couldn' t study 446 00:28:56.319 --> 00:28:57.839 medicine anymore, I said the day I designed a hospital. That' s 447 00:28:57.920 --> 00:29:02.759 gonna be like my my my wow. It' s very interesting. That 448 00:29:02.880 --> 00:29:04.839 one taught a hospital. It' s very interesting. Hey, what a 449 00:29:04.920 --> 00:29:08.599 father you have in common. Approst to see if he gets to the hospital, 450 00:29:08.799 --> 00:29:14.839 you' re going to enter them, because I have to but yes, 451 00:29:14.839 --> 00:29:22.240 you can or not. Same or friend, they don' t tell 452 00:29:22.240 --> 00:29:25.200 you, no, but it' s still how I feel that the same 453 00:29:25.240 --> 00:29:27.839 thing comes in that I want, that it' s social art, that 454 00:29:27.839 --> 00:29:30.240 ' s like being in touch with people, so I feel that it' 455 00:29:30.240 --> 00:29:33.599 s going to complement very well. Yes, because there are very complete hospitals, 456 00:29:33.279 --> 00:29:37.799 especially in Europe, for example, there are hospitals as very different from 457 00:29:37.839 --> 00:29:44.720 those we have here and do not mean you start, independently, obviously, 458 00:29:45.720 --> 00:29:49.880 without water, because they are either as they are mini cities within a hospital, 459 00:29:51.359 --> 00:29:56.519 because they have absolutely all the specialties and apart, they have precisely these 460 00:29:56.799 --> 00:30:03.200 spaces of coexistence among people who are suffering something, among those who are going 461 00:30:03.279 --> 00:30:07.720 to give rehabilitation, among those who are waiting for something and so that they 462 00:30:07.960 --> 00:30:14.039 are like more places, not only as of hopelessness, but that they are 463 00:30:14.119 --> 00:30:18.759 as recreational and that they are told as a respite because they are in very 464 00:30:18.920 --> 00:30:21.960 tense pinals nothing because they are good or bad news or something unforeseen. Not 465 00:30:22.039 --> 00:30:23.960 then to have them as in camera centers. I think they can do something 466 00:30:25.359 --> 00:30:32.000 together. All right. You heard teleton listen, oh, yeah, I 467 00:30:32.000 --> 00:30:34.119 ' d love to. I spent some time with my sister, I was 468 00:30:34.160 --> 00:30:37.519 living in Queretaro for a while. Every time we were in the car and 469 00:30:37.599 --> 00:30:41.599 all that would be reached to watch the teleton of keretaro and we were investigating 470 00:30:41.680 --> 00:30:45.200 a good one that teleton and it' s, I mean, the design 471 00:30:45.200 --> 00:30:48.160 is amazing. Yes, yes, it is. One time I went to 472 00:30:48.240 --> 00:30:52.359 want to have a concert and we went through the telethon there because they' 473 00:30:52.440 --> 00:30:56.119 re in the part here and I said ay which father is the project. 474 00:30:56.279 --> 00:31:00.440 And I' ve already had the opportunity to go to the state of Mexico 475 00:31:00.519 --> 00:31:07.000 here, here in the state of Mexico and all in the state of Mexico. 476 00:31:07.319 --> 00:31:11.799 I' ve gone to the one who, by the way, is 477 00:31:11.799 --> 00:31:14.319 my brother working. Greetings there to Latvian and the truth is that it has 478 00:31:14.839 --> 00:31:19.440 impeccable facilities, really impeccable, incredible. And there I did say, because 479 00:31:19.480 --> 00:31:23.400 it is worth that yes, but it will be amazing to participate in one 480 00:31:23.440 --> 00:31:27.079 of those is. It' ll be formidable, ble, formidable, yes, 481 00:31:27.079 --> 00:31:30.559 it' s amazing. The truth is what father they do and who 482 00:31:30.880 --> 00:31:33.799 are their five favorite architects or designers or because they have in their sights right 483 00:31:33.799 --> 00:31:38.599 now. From the beginning to the present I have had this way in the 484 00:31:38.599 --> 00:31:41.359 look, look, look at the deaf Madalena. Well, that is, 485 00:31:41.519 --> 00:31:48.480 in fact minor before I make like this together and that I had as already 486 00:31:48.559 --> 00:31:53.400 the idea of becoming independent as such this I always said my dream job that 487 00:31:53.440 --> 00:31:59.319 being deaf madalen and in fact, then I follow it on social networks and 488 00:31:59.440 --> 00:32:06.279 everything and once there was a make- up vacancy and I said this would 489 00:32:06.400 --> 00:32:14.559 be my ideal job, because I something that since I started studying the race, 490 00:32:14.720 --> 00:32:17.720 went to make models. I mean, yeah, you mentioned that you 491 00:32:17.759 --> 00:32:23.319 like it and I love that and I think it can be confirmed. I 492 00:32:24.079 --> 00:32:30.839 say no or yes. It' s something I' d just like to 493 00:32:30.839 --> 00:32:34.000 implement on three points. Do not sell the project together with a model. 494 00:32:34.559 --> 00:32:37.519 It would be amazing to me. And that' s good, and it 495 00:32:37.599 --> 00:32:45.640 ' s already the deaf test give this legos and Legorreta to me I love 496 00:32:45.640 --> 00:32:49.200 colors, yes, that is to say I love designing with a lot of 497 00:32:49.279 --> 00:32:54.640 color. All right. So Legorreta identifies for that, i e, they 498 00:32:54.680 --> 00:32:59.920 think he' s a bell and I' m seeing in my mind orange 499 00:33:00.480 --> 00:33:02.200 and blue that nothing that does, call and yellow, yeah, but yeah. 500 00:33:02.279 --> 00:33:06.839 I also really like them as an office and everything they do, not 501 00:33:06.920 --> 00:33:10.960 because I also follow them on their social networks and see how they interact with 502 00:33:12.920 --> 00:33:21.000 students and all that I really like. All right. You' re three 503 00:33:21.279 --> 00:33:25.960 short, she' s a son of a bitch. Yeah, really since 504 00:33:27.039 --> 00:33:32.920 the race of these two dispatches like they' ve saved me, okay, 505 00:33:34.119 --> 00:33:37.400 so they always made reference to everything Okay, I hope you' re listening 506 00:33:37.440 --> 00:33:45.680 to Victory j Good. Despite the other three angels I think I would say 507 00:33:45.680 --> 00:33:50.519 good is that I always feel like more linear. I feel architects. I 508 00:33:50.519 --> 00:33:59.400 feel that one would be already forgotten, they were told it would be Van 509 00:33:59.400 --> 00:34:00.920 de Rock, that I feel that it is one of the most. I 510 00:34:00.960 --> 00:34:05.160 always broke my career, that is, for everything, for both design and 511 00:34:05.240 --> 00:34:07.800 concept, and everything was more than anything he oy. Besides, I also 512 00:34:08.079 --> 00:34:14.000 feel like it' s gonna be Davidge Prefield I well, the last Pritzker. 513 00:34:14.159 --> 00:34:17.920 I remember myself and so three others and the options are over and here 514 00:34:20.440 --> 00:34:27.360 goes another gri Obviously, there' s a designer who forgot her name and 515 00:34:27.440 --> 00:34:32.000 I' m going to regret that all my life. But as such, 516 00:34:32.280 --> 00:34:37.159 I remember that there was a matter in the race that they told you you 517 00:34:37.199 --> 00:34:43.079 ' re going to expose your favorite architect, not ok and I saw how 518 00:34:43.199 --> 00:34:45.920 not everyone spent the same day to expose. Then I saw as a constant 519 00:34:46.400 --> 00:34:53.079 that my companions only exposed to male architects. Then I wondered why, why 520 00:34:53.079 --> 00:34:59.559 only men. No. For example, I chose at that time an architect 521 00:35:00.000 --> 00:35:02.039 and designer who was a woman who told you that I don' t remember 522 00:35:02.119 --> 00:35:07.920 her name. But really the fact that there are women like in this industry. 523 00:35:08.519 --> 00:35:10.760 I feel like it' s like I' m thanking you. Not 524 00:35:12.079 --> 00:35:15.679 because thanks to the first women who decided to start studying architecture, because it 525 00:35:15.760 --> 00:35:20.719 is that we can be here today, not that despite that we are still 526 00:35:21.079 --> 00:35:24.639 fighting, because, because I believe that you also in this case fight with 527 00:35:24.719 --> 00:35:29.960 stereotypes And all that, because it has touched me. And I haven' 528 00:35:30.079 --> 00:35:35.360 t been here that long, since I' m already in for jobs. 529 00:35:36.199 --> 00:35:40.920 But I did get that part. So the fact that there are other women 530 00:35:42.000 --> 00:35:45.559 before me, very much earlier, who decided to start getting into this, 531 00:35:45.840 --> 00:35:50.440 because obviously, they are grateful for the opportunity that we are being given. 532 00:35:51.159 --> 00:35:55.199 It wasn' t Mexican, yes, Mexican, I don' t know 533 00:35:55.880 --> 00:36:05.760 Bilbao, bilbaja, yes, clearer or not to the discoverer who want, 534 00:36:05.840 --> 00:36:08.639 no, yes, yes, yes, that is, and I was really 535 00:36:08.800 --> 00:36:12.639 the only one who in this class exposed about an architect woman. Oh good, 536 00:36:12.880 --> 00:36:15.159 what? Well, I' m glad you' re very present there, 537 00:36:15.519 --> 00:36:20.280 because, yes, just a lot. Sometimes we talk about male architects, 538 00:36:20.920 --> 00:36:23.119 but what about women. That' s not how it happens to us. 539 00:36:23.280 --> 00:36:27.559 And also, I mean, I suddenly include myself I' m mentioned 540 00:36:27.559 --> 00:36:30.400 by man and it' s like and the women where I stayed, not 541 00:36:30.400 --> 00:36:36.599 that they' re also very referent. I' m telling you, it 542 00:36:36.840 --> 00:36:38.760 ' s amazing that ajajadin is Lina Boardi. The truth is that there are 543 00:36:39.119 --> 00:36:45.360 many things to thank you for, not that they were pioneers. I' 544 00:36:45.440 --> 00:36:49.800 m still owed here by the architects. Yeah, I mean, she' 545 00:36:50.199 --> 00:36:55.000 s got to see the woman' s worth for tea, two are missing, 546 00:36:55.000 --> 00:36:59.800 and she' s got three. They are of three, no, 547 00:37:00.239 --> 00:37:04.519 but that good, that is, I am glad that they have like these 548 00:37:05.280 --> 00:37:09.320 references in architecture because, yes that is, they serve inspiration many times not 549 00:37:09.400 --> 00:37:13.840 to say to the best. I want to get just like him to that 550 00:37:13.840 --> 00:37:15.519 level. Or I don' t know, for example, about that something 551 00:37:15.559 --> 00:37:19.880 madal in which it is already an industry, it' s a monster that 552 00:37:20.039 --> 00:37:23.280 we send a kiss to sma this because the truth is that yes, they 553 00:37:23.840 --> 00:37:25.400 do a great job, but it' s already a monster the office. 554 00:37:25.880 --> 00:37:30.239 Yeah, but it' s good that I follow him as a reference and 555 00:37:30.360 --> 00:37:34.760 that they aspire to that, because I know this I' m sure they 556 00:37:34.760 --> 00:37:37.960 ' re gonna make it, because it' s amazing, that what they 557 00:37:37.960 --> 00:37:39.079 ' re doing is moving really well. And in a place where nothing is 558 00:37:39.239 --> 00:37:43.920 spoken, I mean, I like to say two things. Nothing, nothing, 559 00:37:45.400 --> 00:37:49.760 nothing, nothing, but good to hear and I' m loving to 560 00:37:49.760 --> 00:37:52.079 meet you. The truth is that I liked them very well, very well 561 00:37:52.119 --> 00:37:54.159 that I liked you, and I hope that it is not the last time 562 00:37:54.559 --> 00:37:59.199 that you are here on the radio, because, because I want to keep 563 00:37:59.239 --> 00:38:01.960 seeing them grow and that more things are being done and that I keep telling 564 00:38:02.000 --> 00:38:07.320 myself that already in Madrid, the I want to see I am already engaged 565 00:38:07.440 --> 00:38:14.559 and I am very committed already there pastes, but the rosary and the candle 566 00:38:14.599 --> 00:38:17.239 this, because it is not the last time that you are here with us 567 00:38:17.280 --> 00:38:21.320 and that it also participates with us, because then we do as toor of 568 00:38:21.320 --> 00:38:22.960 this with the marks. And so they are more invited to give in heart. 569 00:38:23.519 --> 00:38:28.599 And so I would like, like to conclude this first, this first 570 00:38:28.679 --> 00:38:32.679 episode, with you what you would say to the new generations of architects that, 571 00:38:34.079 --> 00:38:37.079 like you, you want to venture into the arena of undertaking or that 572 00:38:37.119 --> 00:38:40.760 you are starting what you would say to them if the first thing would be 573 00:38:40.760 --> 00:38:44.119 that you do not look proven, that is, it would not be easy 574 00:38:44.119 --> 00:38:45.320 at the beginning, that is almost always. You think it can be very 575 00:38:45.360 --> 00:38:47.400 difficult to start with this, but, I mean, I think we' 576 00:38:47.480 --> 00:38:51.360 re in a generation that, with your computer, can be pretty much everything, 577 00:38:51.599 --> 00:38:58.599 so you don' t tell him then how there' s no way 578 00:38:58.599 --> 00:39:00.599 he can appreciate it. You can close the doors. There' s always 579 00:39:00.599 --> 00:39:02.400 gonna be a chance someone' s gonna give you almost always. Your first 580 00:39:02.440 --> 00:39:06.599 project is a remodel for some family, some friend, and from there you 581 00:39:06.679 --> 00:39:10.840 start and go forward. Then never fed hope. All right, well they 582 00:39:10.920 --> 00:39:15.639 don' t feel less, because I feel like there will always be people 583 00:39:15.719 --> 00:39:22.239 who want to tell you that you can' t be very green the favorite 584 00:39:22.320 --> 00:39:28.800 word of all architects, because yes, they don' t give up that 585 00:39:28.880 --> 00:39:34.880 we are always in constant learning, obviously, even the best architects who have 586 00:39:35.199 --> 00:39:38.000 their mistakes, then they just like starting, obviously, with more challenges and 587 00:39:38.000 --> 00:39:42.320 all that. But if you don' t take step one already, then 588 00:39:42.360 --> 00:39:46.800 when it' s going to be, no, then start from now on, 589 00:39:47.119 --> 00:39:51.400 even if you can, since you' re in the race, start 590 00:39:51.440 --> 00:39:53.639 as to strengthen, yes, all your learnings. I do not know how 591 00:39:53.920 --> 00:39:57.960 to take courses, that is me, that is something that I very much 592 00:39:58.079 --> 00:40:01.480 appreciate the courses that I have taken outside the career, because yes, of 593 00:40:01.599 --> 00:40:06.360 the educational system that we have today, because it does not help that we 594 00:40:06.360 --> 00:40:08.280 say much. Yes, then, yes, let them learn that all the 595 00:40:08.360 --> 00:40:14.000 time they have doubts that they always want to learn something more that they don 596 00:40:14.039 --> 00:40:15.840 ' t keep anything more with what they teach you in the race, because, 597 00:40:15.960 --> 00:40:20.840 then, they don' t serve us much out here. And that 598 00:40:21.000 --> 00:40:22.719 is not so, because they do not believe the person who tells them no, 599 00:40:22.880 --> 00:40:25.679 because it means, because it speaks more about the other person, does 600 00:40:25.760 --> 00:40:30.840 not mean that their dreams are small. Then you have to have big dreams, 601 00:40:30.880 --> 00:40:34.719 very good guys. Nice to meet you. I really do get along 602 00:40:34.880 --> 00:40:37.519 very well and wish you all the luck in the world, because you are 603 00:40:37.599 --> 00:40:42.639 doing an excellent job. I mean, what starts well, always goes very 604 00:40:43.079 --> 00:40:46.400 well. There are indeed many congratulations for doing this, because I congratulate you 605 00:40:46.480 --> 00:40:50.360 and because I do not know the last time to have you here in die 606 00:40:50.480 --> 00:40:52.639 radian yes Thank you very much for the invitation to you for coming at what 607 00:40:52.639 --> 00:41:00.760 time Mexico City. Thank you very much, thank you and thank you to 608 00:41:00.760 --> 00:41:07.480 the audience. We' re listening there in Spotify, Google Podcast, Amazon 609 00:41:07.760 --> 00:41:10.760 Podcast from Seer Iher, that is, everything that ends in podcast. We 610 00:41:10.880 --> 00:41:14.760 ' re there, so there isn' t, but worth saying we don 611 00:41:14.840 --> 00:41:16.239 ' t find them there, we' re on all the music streaming, 612 00:41:17.079 --> 00:41:21.199 so there isn' t. But, and so, we appreciate very much 613 00:41:21.320 --> 00:41:24.239 here I collaborate for being our headquarters in this new season, that we are 614 00:41:24.280 --> 00:41:27.840 here, in the street of San Luis Potosí, one hundred and thirteen, 615 00:41:28.440 --> 00:41:32.320 here in the Colonia Roma, and so, we listen to the next we 616 00:41:32.679 --> 00:41:38.559 have more podcast and we are almost in the final stretch of this season because 617 00:41:38.639 --> 00:41:43.280 we are already preparing for the summer and well, I send them a greeting 618 00:41:43.320 --> 00:41:45.239 and many thanks to three points, thanks to Joally and thanks to everyone. 619 00:41:45.519 --> 00:41:45.039 Bye Bye.