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It's the two seventeen Recovery podcast with
Corey Winfield. I think that's pretty fair

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for a guy once a quarter,
four times a year trim and toenails.

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If it needs to be done,
it needs to be done. I'll think

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you that you can go by the
calendar year. You probably wish I would

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because I probably maybe really do it
like twice a year and co holds Marni

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Winfield the people that really are drawn
to twelve step program. One piece of

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those twelve step groups is because it's
people from all different varieties in lengths of

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time of sobriety. It is the
third of February twenty twenty four. My

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name's Corey Winfield, my name's Marnie
Winfield, and this is the two seventeen

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Recovery podcast coming from the eighth No, No, it's the home studio location,

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right, not the it's the home
studio, so we were going to

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call it that. Yeah, and
it's good to have you on, Marty.

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It's been forever a couple of months, I think since you've done a

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podcast, almost as long since I
clip my toenails last. I think it's

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like the only open you've played when
when we've been doing podcasts together lately.

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Yeah, what kind of happens.
But I played that on purpose because I

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did clip my toenails on the twenty
fourth. Oh no, no, he's

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literally looking at a calendar. Yeah
I can. I can actually tell you

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because I was gonna do it.
I'm Martin Luther King day, but I

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got a little busy that day.
No, it wasn't then, it wasn't

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the twentieth. That's February, my
bat horn. Yeah, twenty fourth of

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January. Clip toenails. That's so, that's good, that's great. And

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then I threw out my back doing
it. I don't know how you hurt

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your back clipping toenails. I don't
know. It was serious work. And

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I talked to the guys about it, and I think they thought I was

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joking, but I really wasn't.
Things you do in recovery, man,

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you know, just start clipping toenails
once a quarter. Yeah, make that

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goal and you just go from there. But things for us have been pretty

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well. We saw Tyrone today,
Yeah, he came by and we went

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out for lunch. That was nice. And things seem to be going well

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at the two seventeen Recovery Center,
and we have an event planned for the

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twenty ninth, so excited. The
end of the month. It's Recovery Stories,

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Message of Hope Part two and justin
Mitch and I think Adam and the

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woman by the name of Rose they're
going to do the stories, and then

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a guy by the name of Mike
and a guy by the name of Jeff

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going to do the Message of Hope
part and it'll be pretty good. I

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put together the video from the first
one and I submitted it to Amazon Prime

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Video, so we'll see if it
goes through there and clears the copyright stuff

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and if they want to copyright it
or pay us like eight dollars to do

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it, and that's cool. I'm
hoping it would be free for everybody,

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right, something that I did to
try to make money off of. I

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just want people to see it.
And that's just you having put together the

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speakers that were at the last event, yep, and kind of putting that

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and adding in a little bit and
jazzing it up like you do. Yeah,

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because there we had four cameras going
and I think for like Kendra and

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Mary, the way they were standing, I can only use two of the

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camera shots. And Mary looks like
she was sitting, but she moved her

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chair to the side, so the
microphone just left a big shadow right in

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the middle of her face, in
which I was not. I was like,

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oh, there's no way to get
it out of there. So it's

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like, okay, well live and
learn. So I'm gonna tell everybody else

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this next one. Do not move
like. I set the cameras up for

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a reason, you know, And
I didn't really know what I was doing

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the first time. It was just
like, let's turn them on and let's

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roll with it. And now I
know. But it still wasn't bad.

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It wasn't horrible. And it just
has the four story tellers, which I

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was one of them, and then
it has Mary, and then it has

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David g which he was great.
So is that available now then or not

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yet? Well I submitted it.
I don't know, maybe like three weeks

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ago, two weeks ago, three
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I was talking to my buddy Ron
Robinson and he was telling me about the

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rules. I guess you could say, when you upload videos to video to

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Amazon Prime Video, if you have
an email in there, any kind of

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like contact info, they will not
do it. And then you have to

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resubmit it, and he said it
takes longer. So when he told me

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that, I was like, oh
shit. So I went back and then

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I deleted the video that I had
already uploaded, which took forever, and

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then I had to upload it again
after I took my email out and stuff

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like that. The only thing I
left in was you know, it was

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a two seventeen recovery production, right, which I don't see them having a

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problem with that because they didn't it
together. Right. If they want to

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copyright it and they want to distribute
it, you know, then they can

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put all the crap they want in
the middle of it, in the beginning

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of it or whatever. But as
far as like any contact info or anything

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like that, sure, there's really
nothing there. So we'll just wait and

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see it should I don't know,
it'd be another week maybe. And what's

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the what's the length of it?
Fifty six or seven minutes long? It's

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almost an hour, okay, because
the recovery stories for like, you know,

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three to six minutes, because I
did like six and a half minutes,

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and then I think Mary talked for
like twelve and then David G talked

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for like twenty five. Okay,
but it's good stuff. And yeah,

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I had to use the different cameras
to edit it because the straight on camera

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people kept walking in front of it, so I only really walked through in

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front of it. I have to
cut over to a different camera and come

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back and people coughing. I think
it was might have been Tyrone this year,

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just people coughing. I'm like sex. But I did add music to

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it, which kind of I guess
not drowns out the cough, but it

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doesn't make its apparent prominent. I
don't even know. It's just like,

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hey, it's we're real people doing
real thing in real time. So it's

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not like all right, you know, message of hope. Take five that

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was it. Whatever came out,
whatever came out. So yeah, but

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it's pretty cool and I think people
would really like it and there's some really

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good messaging in there. And we'll
just see if if when it comes out

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on whatever, I will let you
know. Yeah. Oh, it's a

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workout time for our kiddie. He
has a sing where he picks, like

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I said, the worst times that
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wheel. I was like, what
is it. I'm like, oh,

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I can't like what is that noise? Yes, a big wheel. The

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cat just runs on over and over. Imagine like a hamster wheel but way

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larger. Yeah, it's like that. It's really awkward. It gets there's

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really no good place to put it. No, it's really not. If

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you have like a six bedroom house, it would be like put it wherever,

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put in the cat's room. If
you're if you're a cat person and

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cat owner, you know, if
you've ever gotten a kitten like that year

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mark, Like they're full of energy
and they're just like, yeah, I

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can run and run myself into a
wall like they don't even care. Yeah,

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Like our cat just runs into the
window. He runs just wham,

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and it just doesn't make any sense. Like it looks kind of cool.

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Like today this morning he ran in
the jumped and then like kind of hit

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his back like his ass on it
like man, like he was going to

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go up and like jump off it
or something kind of like dirt biker tricks.

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I just looked and I shook my
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that dude's crazy, I know.
But then they kind of calmed down

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and then they just like around and
do nothing. Yeah, but he's in

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that stage right now where it's like
just it's crazy. I wonder if human

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babies do that too, No,
I don't think so, not to that

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extent. Uh. Yeah, we're
doing with our our boy in May.

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How's the pregnancy going. It's going
well, it's gone really well. It's

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I mean, obviously, anybody,
any woman who's been through it, it

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knows it's there's unpleasantries about it,
you know, discomfort and just kind of

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like everything's a little more difficult to
do. But I mean I'm not really

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super complaining now because I mean I
can't you know, there's still more to

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come with the third trimester, so
ahead of me, ahead of us,

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let's say. Yeah, that's kind
of a even though you're not the one

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with the you know, baby in
your belly, it's still it still affects,

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you know, us as a family
and and stuff, which we're talking

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about. Possibly. I can't believe
you never heard of what a baby I

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wonder for anybody here knows what a
baby moon is, because you made it

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sound like it was something that I
made up. Yeah, well I never

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heard of it. You know.
I guess I really don't know a lot

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of people who have babies. I
guess or talk about it. So yeah,

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when you brought it up, I
was like, what, you just

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want to take a vacation? And
then I brought it up to your mom

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and your mom was like, oh, no, you guys just went to

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Seattle. You don't need a vacation. I was like, okay, mother

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in law. Yeah, well that's
I'm just going to I wish I'm glad

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that I wasn't there for that comment
because it's blowney because now I'm starting to

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think, like, man, eighteen
years a long time, you know,

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to not just go off and I
mean we can go off and do stuff,

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but like to have one last bang, right, Because when we went

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to Seattle, we didn't know.
I mean we were hoping, yeah,

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that would be the last like crazy
vacation we took. Yeah, but now

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it's like, man, we can
really get it get another one in real

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quick. So we'll just have to
figure out where you'd want to go.

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I guess you know, like these
are sober people problems. Yeah, these

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are like good things to have.
And when I was thinking about stuff the

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other day about you know, how
how far I've come in the past few

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years, and you too, how
far you've come and the things that we're

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doing now in life are the things
that we wanted to do at one point,

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whether we knew it or not,
and here we are doing it.

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Yeah. And I was talking to
Tyrone today after you left, and Tyrone

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were ouse. I gave a shirt, a couple of two seventeen recovery shirts,

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and I was talking to him and
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like, if you'd have told me, this is what I'd be doing,

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you know, five years ago,
or even you know, four years ago

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when we first went to the UFAM
rally, you know, like I got

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out of treatment in March early April
of twenty nineteen is when we started the

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podcast and then we were on our
way. Man, I guess that was

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five years ago, wasn't it.
Yeah, if you'd have told me,

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like when we were at that first
UFAM rally, which I got them to

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give us a media sponsor. Again, you can go back and listen to

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the podcast from then too. It's
probably bad. It could be entertaining just

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to hear what we were doing and
what we were saying and where we were

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at. But we showed up.
They gave us a sponsorship so we didn't

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have to pay anything. To be
a part of it. We talked about

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a lot on our podcast, and
then we got there and they told us

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they were going to give us an
eight foot table. I don't know this

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said they were going to give us
a six foot table. So we bought

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a six foot table cover, which
I screwed up. I tried to iron

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on a logo. It didn't work. It was horrible. Well, we

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get there, then they got eight
foot tables. Our table covered didn't even

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fit. Like it was just it
was just we just had to make the

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best of it. And now,
honey, you know, because you've been

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there, we look pretty good when
we show up, you know, like

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we look like we're we have it
together. But back then, you know,

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it was just me and Rob,
you know, it was, Yeah,

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it was. But yeah, if
you'd have been like, hey,

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and it's what you can be doing, you know a few years from now,

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I would have said, what are
you talking about? How am I

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going to do all that? Yeah, it's nuts, but that's what happens.

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And I was telling Tyrone too,
like early in my life, early

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in my career, I knew I
wanted to, you know, be on

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the radio. I knew I wanted
to do this and do that, and

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I would go after my goals.
And then when I started drinking and you

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know, smoking pot and all that
like big time, that's when my dreams

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kind of became something that I would
just tell people, Oh, yeah,

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I want to do that one day. Yeah, I want to do that.

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I want to be this, I
want to do this. But now

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that I've had, you know,
five years of being sober, when I

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say things, I know that I
can achieve them, and it's a part

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of like, well, how are
you going to do it? You know,

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I told you that I was gonna
make a movie, Well I should

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write a script, yeah, you
know, And so I bought a book

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on how to write a script and
I start reading that, and there's going

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to be things in that book that
will, I don't want to say,

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send me on a little detour for
making the movie, but there'll be things

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that I learned that I'll have to
do before I make the movie, you

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know. And there is just part
of the process of wanting to make a

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movie. Now, if I just
just like, Hey, I'm going to

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make a movie and you're like,
well, how are you going to do

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that, I'm like, I don't
know, just watch a bunch of themen

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buy a camera. That's not really
right. I'll just say I'm going to

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make a movie, and I'll be
eighty years old. I'm like, oh,

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I'm gonna make a movie one day, and you'll be like throwing pancakes

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and coffee mugs at me and like, shut up, shut up with that

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stupid movie. You didn't make it, and you're not going to. I'd

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rather say, yeah, you did
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up. No. I mean,
like, I think, I think you're

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right. I think with setting goals, and especially since you know they're where,

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you're in a place where you're healthy
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goals that we come up with be
realistic, right, and it's not like

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it's not that far off base,
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they don't happen overnight. And I
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was in my active addiction. Even
if I had some kind of idea in

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mind of something bigger, bigger that
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it's like I didn't. I didn't
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I couldn't even wrap my head around
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to like make that happen? Because
I wasn't I wasn't healthy, and and

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it didn't seem achievable, so I
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you could do it, then you
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to an approaching, approaching making that
actually happen, you know, and all

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that stuff comes with time. So
like these people that are in early recovery,

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like there's nothing wrong with having big
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it's just what are the small things
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to that bigger thing? You know, and make sure first things first,

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make sure you have like your your
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like have you are you make sure
you're physically healthy? You know?

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Do you have you know? Have
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know that you that's conducive to your
recovery, so you know it's not putting

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your you know sobriety and danger that
and are you budgeting correctly? Like there's

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all these little life skills that we
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active addiction. And so yes,
always have your big goals and your small

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goals, but like stay in the
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you don't get too far ahead of
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back at square one. Like that's
the kind of mentality I needed to have

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when I was kind of like laying
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I thought being sober six months was
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I tell people that first year,
and maybe it's because you're getting a coin

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every month. And the thing I
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over on the podcast, when I
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them to my mom because then they
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like, if I'm not getting another
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I've collected so many of those,
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mom because that'll mean something to her. And now it meant something for me

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to get those coins. So that
was another reason, you know, to

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keep going every month to get another
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once you hit that year, I
think, was it the na you get

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a year and a half coin or
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those or something. But then but
for like AA people or whatever, you

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know, like I don't really get
my coins from A anymore. I just

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go online and get them. Actually
you get them for me. I do,

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and I buy mine and send it
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seems like it goes by a lot
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and our man Jonathan Domond Cadillac,
he was telling me like, I can't

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believe I've got like I think maybe
three years now, two years, three

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years, I don't know. He's
doing really good. He's in that point

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where if he looks at drinking,
he looks at it like, WHOA,

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why would I want to do that
today? You know, like why would

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I just stub my toe into the
wall. That's not a good idea.

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and that's a good place to be. But with the goals, you

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can do it. And like you
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You know, all the stuff I
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us do. We want it now, we want it today, we want

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it, come on, let's go. It doesn't work that way, but

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you can make progress every single day. I mean there's a a lot of

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days. I mean, just look
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Chances to get better every single day. Yeah. And I think a

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lot too of the fact that why
we lose that momentum of like getting doing,

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taking the little steps towards the big
goals is because we don't have the

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confidence in ourselves. And like,
at least for me, is I was

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able to maintain my sobriety and you
know every day just be like, hey,

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I did it again. I did
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keeping those expectations certain accountability for myself, but not like throwing myself a friggin

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parade every you know, it's kind
of like this is my life now,

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able to live and be have a
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the world. And so the more
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daily basis, the more confidence I
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was like, let's keep check been
away at this stuff, let's keep doing

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these things and these little things that
I do. And then maybe I came

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up with something that was a little
bit bigger, a little bit more challenging,

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but it didn't see seems so self
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we had these big ideas, even
in early recovery, even if we were

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sober for a minute or two or
a year or whatever, and we're like,

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yeah, that's never gonna happen.
I don't even want to put that

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on my radar. I'm setting myself
up for failure because that's that's too big.

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Only good shit like that happens to
like other people, not to me,

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which is totally not true. But
if you keep staying clean and sober

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and recognizing these little victories, you'll
recognize how much potential you actually have.

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And it's amazing. And there'll be
times you want to give up there betimes

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is hard, and there'll be times
you just want to throw your hands up

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and like I can't do it,
But you gotta stick with it. You

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gotta trust God, you gotta have
faith, I really do. Or the

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times and bad stuff happens and you're
like, why is this happening? I've

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been staying sober, like like,
aren't I supposed to be getting like these

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free passes from negative things and from
misery? Because I look at me,

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I have not picked up a drinker
drug, and it's like, no,

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sweetheart, that's life. That's just
these things happen and you just need to,

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you know, navigate through them bus
as you can, because I know

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drinking and drugging is not going to
make them easy go away or make them

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easier. Yeah, And I look
at it like I'm a pretty smart guy

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because they say you learn from your
mistakes. Learned quite a bit a lot

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of stuff I know. But that's
another thing too, is people will compare

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themselves to other people, and then
they shouldn't do that, and don't let

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people rob you of your dream and
your goals. People will laugh, people

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will tell you you can't do it, they'll judge you for it. I

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was talking about that today in the
online meeting we had to seventeen. Recovery

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Center is about other people not understanding
what your dreams and your goals are.

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But at the same time, when
somebody questions you or maybe questions your sobriety,

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Hey, what are you drinking again? Or what's going on? And

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people get mad about that. Oh
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Oh no, no, no,
you earned that distrust you really did,

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because you've lied, you've cheated,
you've done things that you said you didn't

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do, and you got away with
a couple times probably too. But so

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if somebody doesn't trust you when you're
in early recovery, you earned it.

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You know, you earn that distrust, just like you have to earn that

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trust back. So even if you
had two years three, it doesn't matter.

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If somebody questions you or or your
sobriety or or whatever, then you

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can do about it. You can't
change the only way you can change someone

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else's mind by actions, by showing
what you do on a daily basis and

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moving that forward, and then they
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Like Mitch's telling me that somebody who's
like, I think he's in prison off

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meth, but he was running around
with the homeless community here in Traverse City

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doing hood rat stuff. And he
told somebody from one of the shelters in

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town that, oh, two seventeen
years, oh that to sevent two recovery.

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That's that's the bunch of guys that
say they're sober and they're really not.

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And Mitch was like hurt by that, you know, and I'm like,

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well, people are gonna say dumb
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he came or if he knew me, this guy, which like I said,

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i'd have to write him because he's
in prison now. But there's no

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way he would say that, oh, you're not sober, you're not really

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in recovery. Held. He wouldn't
say that about any of us, you

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know. But people like to talk
shit, people like to say things.

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But I know for a fact that
I'm doing the things I need to do

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to move my life forward. And
I have the track record where I can

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just point back and go, look, look at this. Do you think

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I could do any of that if
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And that's kind of unfortunate that,
you know, people like that,

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because at the end of the day, hurt people and sick people, you

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know, who don't feel good about
themselves, tend to try to take stabs

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at other people to make themselves feel
like they're not the only one that's messing

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up, and even if it's completely
one percent untrue, you know, And

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that's sad. But yeah, you
can't. You can't go buy what other

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people say out there. You have
to just worry about your own self worth

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and you know, have confidence in
yourself. That's what you got to do.

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But something else I want to talk
about today, and yeah, I

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still want to keep it around a
half hour, but just real quick.

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I heard about this on the radio
the other day. I was driving home

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and the ticket they were talking about
this new product that's out called high Seltzer,

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and I just wanted to be completely
honest and talk about it. I've

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talked about it with you, Marnie, I think I have. I know

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you were there when I was talking
about it a couple of times. But

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it's high Seltzer and it has the
should I can't remember it at Yeah,

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it's the Delta eight, Delta eight
something like that, and like the weed

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that you would smoke and all that
stuff or whatever has like Delta nine that

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gets you really super messed up.
At the Delta eight. It's a legal

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thing. It's kind of what's in
the gummies and stuff. It's more of

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a mellow one weed. Guy told
me when I was talking to him about

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it, he said, yeah,
it's like a diet It's like a diet

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weed. You know, you still
get high from it, but you won't

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be all like crazy or anything.
Well, this high seltzer, it's like

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zero alcohol, zero sugar, zero
chemicals whatever. It has one chemical in

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it, a delta eight. But
they say drinking a bottle will get you

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the same buzz as drinking two glasses
of wine, but at leaves your system

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quicker. And I started thinking.
I was like, man, that'd be

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pretty cool. And then I really
started thinking about it, and I thought,

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oh no, that's dangerous. Like
I couldn't just have a beer.

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I wouldn't stop, you know,
like if I started drinking this stuff to

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get a buzz. Okay, first
of all, what do I want a

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buzz? It feels good to be
present, it really does. And if

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I drank that, and I'm sure
other people with a drinking problem like myself

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would hear this and think, oh
man, that's that's what I'm going to

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do then, because it's legal and
I can do it and it gives me

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a buzz and it's safe and blah
blah blah. I don't think it.

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I don't think it would be safe
for me. I don't again, I

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can't even have a beer. Well, if you really want it for me,

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I'm a hundred of them and this
is just just hearing this, Like

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even when I heard it, you
explain it for the first time. It's

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for me. It's just like you're
describing a mood and mind altering substance.

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So like, I don't care what
the label says. It doesn't matter to

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me. I'm not on probation.
It doesn't matter if I consume something and

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I test positive in my pee or
whatever. It's I'm not interested in taking

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anything that is a mood or mind
altering substance. Would have been altered for

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so long. So it's like,
if there's no appeal in that, there's

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no loophole that I'm looking for.
I'm not looking for some kind of like

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validation of what some label says that
makes you feel some kind of way,

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But it's technically not a thing that
we're that we have sworn off for life.

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That's a friggin' that's BS. So
that's yeah, just as someone I

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don't know if it was, you
know, the former addict thing that is

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just immediately I'm like, oh wow, like that's pretty cool. Then you

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know, the recovery cory comes in. It's like whoa, wha, whoa.

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It's not a little close to home, You're going to drink something that

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gives you a buzz or mind altering
you know, didn't you do that before?

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How'd that turn out? Oh?
Yeah, almost killed yourself? Okay,

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great, and you're gonna try that
again for what? For a little

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buzz? Because you don't want to
be present for something? What? What's

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going on? And you were not
present for twenty years, you know,

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like, why would I want to
go back to that? And yeah,

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at a little close to home,
Oh, I can drink it. Oh

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that's my shit. But just the
brain, you know, hearing it and

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going oh hmmm, But it's that, it's that And in those moments that

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you really have to catch yourself,
you know, as someone who's in recovery,

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someone you know, who wants to
live a different life than what you

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were living before. You have to
change, have to change what you do

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and to change how you think.
And I'm not a bad person for coming

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to my brain because that's just the
natural thing that it would do, I

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guess because I'm a former addict.
But you have to catch that because it

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had been easy for me to go, let me get online and order these,

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but I had to go no,
no, no, no, like

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that does a horrible idea, and
you have to like think about it.

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Now. Do I care if my
brother or sister do it? Nope,

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I have no control over them.
I don't think they're bad people if they

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do it. No. I just
I'm just talking about for me, my

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aunt and my uncle. They could
all do it. I don't care.

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My mom could do it, you
know what. I don't care. That's

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on them. I know I can't
do it. And is it safer than

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alcohol? Probably? Alcohol is the
most dangerous drug out there, and people

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act like it's not oh no fiting, no, oh no heroin. If

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you really want to look at the
stats, how many people die every day.

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Alcohol wins the tobacco as well.
But I just think that for me,

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is a very dangerous idea to even
have in my head. Even though

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I'm not a bad person for having
an idea. It just popped in there,

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and I think that was just a
n aptural response. But I just

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have to know that that's just that's
not for me. Well, I mean,

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I wouldn't stop at one because I
never wanted two glasses on wine.

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I wanted one hundred. Yeah,
But if you really like break it down

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and step back and like, look
at the whole thing. It's just like

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all you're doing is is your the
end the end result is your under the

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influence. Right. That's so if
you mean not to like sugarcoat it,

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but they're saying here you can feel
under the influence, but technically you're not

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under the influence because it's legal man
delta agal, it has no that doesn't

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matter. It's you're under the influence. So like that to me is like

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using substances doesn't matter. It's just
a different substance. It is absolutely so.

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I just wanted to throw that out
there real quick. Yeah, and

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also before we jump off your since
must I almost at thirty two minutes,

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Mitch I made his commercial for his
colone called Bear and if you want to

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watch it, we have a TikTok
now. I tried to making it for

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two seventeen. Somehow I made it
for myself. I have no idea.

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I posted on there, and it's
on Facebook too, under my personal Facebook,

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but I think I tagged mentioning it
and I'll probably put it on two

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seventeen recovery because it's just it's silly. It's fun. In recovery, there's

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a story about Mitch, and I'm
not going to make you go back and

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listen to the podcast. But there
was a time that he might have wandered

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into the woods during a disc golf
game because he had emergency, which of

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all, everybody in the world has
had emergency number two, right, And

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he told us about it. That
was that was his big mistake, was

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telling us about it. And I
saw the commercial from It's Blue d Chanel

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or It's from Chanell or whatever.
I might even saying that, right,

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yeah, okay, that's it's a
Colone and it has the guy from Dune

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in it, and he's just looking
all d baggy, you know, looking

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at the camera. He's looking like
he's supposed to look for a clone commercial.

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That's what they were going for.
I was ragging on it. I

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was like, man, I saw
that. I was like, you gotta

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be kidding me. That's just that's
horrible. And I'm joking. And then

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they sent me a mailer that has
you can open it up, you know.

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I think it was like author or
somebody open up and you smell it,

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and I'm like, damn, that's
actually pretty good. So then I

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had to buy it for me for
Christmas. I like it. Yeah,

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but we thought we would make spoof
commercials. And we were like sitting in

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the office one day, me,
Mitch, Adam and Justin and I was

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like, we got to do that. And we were started like joking about

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what cologne or what sent what we
would do, and Justin said it would

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be fabulous. Adam said he wanted
his like wood or something, and then

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Mitch got on the whole oh like
go in the woods, and somehow I

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was like, oh, there's a
bear shit in the woods, you know

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that whole question, and so it
took us back to the incident of emergency

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pooping in the woods, maybe allegedly, and so we made a video with

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that. Mitch happened to have a
bear costume, like helmet, bear head,

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so we went to the college and
drove around. He drove around with

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it on his head for a little
bit just to get the shots that we

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needed. It wasn't doing anything too
unsafe, and then I, you know,

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it was in my movie making skills. So I got some pretty cool

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shots, you know. The one
with the mirror was pretty sweet. I

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was doing it. I was like, all right, Mitch, look up

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now, and he's like, oh, I know what you're doing. But

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it was it was interesting. You
know, I had the drone out,

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got some drone footage and yeah,
so just check it out. It's it's

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worth it, really is. It's
funny. It's really funny. It's inspired

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by a cologne commercial and a true
event, so keep that in mind when

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you watch it, so have and
have fun and remember it's all about fun

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and recovery. Yeah. If you
watch that video and go these guys are

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hating life, they're not having any
fun, then you clearly are not understanding

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the message of the video, right, So enjoy it. And I should

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put it on the website too.
Just absolutely TikTok and all that. So

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yeah, I'll edit to the website
of two seventeen Recovery dot com. The

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time you go there, it will
be there, and it'll be on our

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app as well. Enjoy that.
And Marnie, thank you so much for

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coming on the podcast and doing one
from the home studio. Yeah for sure.

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All right, have a good night
everybody. Thanks for listening the two

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seventeen Recovery podcasts. We hope you
come back for our next episode.

