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It's time for coffee and company,
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I guess in the end, like it's

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a good thing, But isn't it
fair to say that, like the expectation

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the predictions as far as like severe
crazy weather, like that was a little

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over the top, right? I
heard sirens on my way home last night,

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But whenever I heard them, I
was looking around and I'm like,

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what's going on here? So what
triggers those sirens? Like? I don't

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think somebody sets them off manually like
I would just but what the hell do

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I know? Maybe I'm wrong?
I feel like it again, I could

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be completely talking in my rear end, which wouldn't be much different than what

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I typically do. But I just
assumed that, like conditions are a certain

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level to where that goes off.
Yes, maybe it's manual. I don't

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know. I think something has to
be reported like what you were just describing

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to the local weather service and that
type of stuff. Yesterday on the way

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home, I was listening to eight
forty whas Joe Elliott doing a phenomenal job

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filling infantry miners who's on vacation and
they went live to our partners of WKY,

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who were of course live on television
track, you know, given everybody

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updates. Jake rd Oci and I
noticed throughout he kept mentioning, what I'm

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seeing does not show a tornado.
He wasn't, you know, he was

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being professionally, wasn't calling anybody out
for being wrong, but he was basically

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saying, like, yes, they've
issued a tornado warning, which is a

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super serious thing you can't take lightly, right, But what he was saying

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is that what I'm seeing does not
track that, Like it's not to that

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level, which is good, right, It wasn't as dangerous, but yes,

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the sirens were going off, and
man, it was wild. I

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left here. It was sunny,
and I think you and I left here

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at the same time. The sun
was out downtown when we left, and

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there were like little patches. It's
almost like, obviously this used to be

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a hurricane. And so you see
the different breakups in the clouds, and

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it looks just very eerie the way
that it was up in the sky,

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and the clouds can appear in a
certain shape and form to where someone can

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take a picture and you will believe
that it's a tornado, but it's not

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like three different instances of that happened
yesterday with me. And I'm not saying

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like somebody sent it and said it's
a tornado, but I looked at I

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mean, I took a picture one
myself, and I'm like, you know,

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it's not even Wendy, which in
a way it kind of scares you

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because like, you know, the
call before the storm, but you know,

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whenever we were leaving, it was
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it started around Litchfield, made its
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then it kept saying, you know, northwestern Bully County, which I'm pretty

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sure that seems like exactly where I
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I was heading. So I'm like, I guess I'm driving right to it.

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But it never I mean, it
never did anything. It never even

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was Wendy, which again that's good. I'm not like bringing it up to

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blame someone. But you know,
weather's tricky man, because you can never

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like you can never just say,
well, hey, they've been wrong a

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bunch of times. So I'm going
to assume whatever they say is nonsense because

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you know, mother nature, she's
not consistent. You know these guys who

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are in gals that are meteorologists that
are paid to, you know, inform

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us of severe situations to try to
keep us safe. I mean, I

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don't you know they're doing the best
they can. They wouldn't you know?

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They clearly have training. But it's
not a perfect science, and it's just

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an odd industry to where you can
be wrong and it is not and I'm

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not saying it should be, but
you could be wrong, and it's never

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really looked at as if like you
you you know, you aren't good at

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your job, or you did something
wrong, because at the end of the

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day, if you if you thought
something crazy bad was gonna happen and it

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didn't, everybody wins, you know
what I mean, because it means it

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wasn't severe. But do you think
a certain meteorologist at WDRB was phoning up

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the bats last night? Oh?
I don't know if the bats were playing,

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but I saw what happened last week. Yeah, I mean I don't

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know what he was doing. I
mean I didn't see any clips of him.

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I didn't I didn't see any tweets. But yeah, knowing what I

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know and knowing the pattern, like
I would imagine he was a high alert,

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like, hey, I'm not saying
you're about to die everybody, but

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you you might want to call your
mom and dad and say say you love

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him or something like. He would
never say that I'm exaggerating, but you

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all know what I mean. Like
he again, when we really did get

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tornadoes that hit us in one rocked
the Fern Creek area, in fact,

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the Glenn Mary area. I remember
my mother left my house and she was

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going back to where she lives and
she'd literally cuts through on Barchtown Road through

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Glenn Mary that area to get to
her home, and there was a tornado

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on the ground in Glenn Mary.
Now, luckily she'd already made it back

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to the house and she was safe. But I didn't know that at the

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time, and I'm freaking out.
So I'm going back and forth to what

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to to stations and I'm on DRB
listening to Mark with a CEA, and

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you know, I felt scared,
and to be fair, like that was

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a severe situation to where, like
you know, people should have been fearful,

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but it was a when I think
of my preference in how a meteorologist

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should handle it, and really,
I guess It's just a matter of your

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personality, right, Like I think
what you see is what you get with

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Mark with the C. I think
that we have a good variety of personalities

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with me. You can kind of
you got options, right, we have

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plenty. Yeah, And I remember
I couldn't take it anymore because I was

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worrying, and I'm like, man, come on, like I I you

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know, even if you're not exaggerating, like there's a level to like do

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it. And I didn't exactly know
how to give him it. You know,

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I couldn't tell him what was bothered
me so much, not that he

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was giving it damn about what I
thought, meaning meaning Mark with the C.

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But I switched over to WKY and
sure enough it was Ja card O

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C and he was kind of saying
the same thing but saying it differently to

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where like I knew it was severe
and I was worried, but you know,

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I wasn't panicked as if we were
all about to die. And even

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if you know that is the case, like let me go in peace,

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don't scare me. I would prefer
to be wiped out and not like my

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mind would my mind if like I
if if that kind of impending doom was

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coming. I would die before it
happened because my head would explode because I'm

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such an anxious person that would lose
my mind. So yeah, I ended

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up being I think, pretty mild. And today I don't know why.

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But we didn't have once the once
the once the decent weather got here,

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humidity seemed pretty low. And you
know, again it's probably different now,

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but when I got here about an
hour and a half ago, it was

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beautiful outside, which is which is
what we want, right not you know,

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low humidity, not temperatures that are
you know, near one hundred degrees.

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So that's uh, that's that's what
we want. And what John was

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referring to in regards to to last
week, I mean, I sometimes need

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to just not like make it.
You know, I can't help myself,

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and I should because I can tell
I'm a I'm a jerk when it comes

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to some of this stuff. Like
it's not personal, I don't insult,

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but like clearly, I mean I
poke fun of our Kwanberg online. Again

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not in a nasty way, but
like clearly the guy takes himself very serious,

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and I'm somebody who does the exact
opposite and whenever. He On July

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third, tweeted out, for those
of the Louisville Bats game, I am

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in contact with the team and advising
with storms approaching like that, Like that's

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just you wanting people to know your
your power. So I tweeted out,

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and by the way, I got
a lot of traction in case anyone was

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wondering who calls the shots in this
town? And then I shared that tweet

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because like that's like, hey,
just so you guys know, I'm the

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one deciding what the little of bats
are gonna do tonight, So just keep

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it locked right here on my Twitter
account and on WDRB because I'm the one

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that's gonna determine what happens here.
But like, you know what's crazy.

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I can appreciate a guy who's that
into it. You know, it's a

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little much when I'm actually scared about
weather. But like one day, and

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to be fair, like he moves
the needle WDRB, like you know,

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everybody knows who he is. He's
the kind of guy you want to open

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a couple of bush lights while you're
watching him. Yeah, I need a

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couple of I don't know if there's
always a want for me to pound some

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bush lights. But yeah, like
if I'm like if if he's the only

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option as far as getting some updates
on a severe storm, I need to

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pound a couple of bush lights before
I can take his company. But he

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maybe I don't know. That's uh, I'm loyal to bush light. But

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if they didn't have any I would
I'd probably take whatever. I'd probably take

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shots of something, just to kind
of, you know, calm my nerves

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a little bit, because I I
worry about things that are out of my

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control. And one thing that is
out of all of our control, mother

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nature. Right, it's a scary
thing. But you can take caution,

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you can you can do whatever.
But at the end of the day,

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she's undefeated. She wants to wipe
us all out with with some crazy weather

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a tornado, a hurricane, tsunami. Like there's certain levels to it to

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where you can take cover and be
safe, and you should do that,

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by the way, But like at
the end of the day, like,

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there's we can do about it if
he gets that bad. But again,

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yesterday wasn't bad, which is a
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So a lot of people reacting to Rick

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Patino, which again confirms what I
said earlier. Regardless of what you think

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Patino is a he's a polarizing talking
point and in character, I guess that's

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the better way to describe it.
Like Patino is. When Patino does something,

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he finds himself in the news,
he says something, it usually gets

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reaction out of a lot of people, which is why I started the show

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today by saying, look in radio, regardless of what kind of radio you

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do, if you're playing U Musick, if you're doing news talk, you're

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doing sports talk, whatever it is, play the hits. That's a radio

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cliche that is true and will always
be true. And Ruy Patino's a hit.

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So him two weeks after breaking the
hearts of some Louisville fans and claiming

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that he you know, still loves
Kentucky fans and loves his loved his time

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there, and he loves Mark Pope
and will support him in any way,

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and that he donated money to the
UK Football and IL Collective, which still

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is weird, but you know what
Rick does weird things, Like two weeks

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after he did all that, he'd
posts something on Twitter that has fans,

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you know, probably in their fields
a little bit. I mean, it

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didn't make me emotional, but it
you know, regardless of the just let's

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just say the whole UK thing didn't
happen, and he didn't go on pardon

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my take, not knowing he was
actually going to be on KSR, and

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he didn't say what he said.
I would still have the same feeling about

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seeing him sharing that picture of all
his former players preparing for the TBT.

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So it was a tweet that said, let's see here. I just said

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it pulled up here, Well here
we go. Rick's tweet said this This

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was posted in the two o'clock hour. Warms my heart to see my guys

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together. Let's win this thing.
He's referring to the TBT, the tournament

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that he mentioned Russ and said,
sell your great bourbon, no drinking it.

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That's like a is that that's a
dad jokes, Such a dad joke,

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and like Rick Bettino dropping dad jokes
as his former players who gave us

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a national championship, as Louisville fans, at least a handful of them,

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Like that's that makes you feel good? Right, I mean, at least

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it does me. And then the
picture is his mop Luke Hancock. By

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the way, he still looks like
a million bucks. He's not playing in

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the TVT but he looks like he
could play right now. But it's Luke

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Russ Smith. One of the all
time great players ever to play here and

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always will be Shane Behannon, who
was on a national championship team. Earl

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Clark, who didn't win a title, but was a part of a great

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run there back to back Elite eights. One of the most talented teams I've

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ever seen at Louisville was his last
year here with him and t Will and

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those guys. Peyton Siva, legendary
point guard now on staff here at Louisville,

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helped guide Louisville to a national championship, one of the best point guards

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ever play here. And then Reece
Gaines, who was the holdover. You

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know, Reese played for both Rick
Patino and Denny Crumb and he had success

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under both and was a first round
draft pick. And by the way,

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Reese is the one coaching the tv
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And then Chris Jones is in there
as well as David Johnson, so you

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know that. I can hear Rick
say what he says about Kentucky and their

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fans and his time there, and
it doesn't change anything as far as how

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I feel about the Louisville experience for
him, because even when he coached here,

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it was hard to even bring it
up because he hated Caliperi. He

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hated him. They were personal rivals. Take away Louisville Kentucky, they were

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rivals before they were coaching against each
other in this state. They were there's

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a history there. I think a
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it wasn't even something we thought about
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you could feel and I mean it
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Louisville and Kentucky play the first four
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against each other here and in this
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and uncomfortable when they when they tipped
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was it Reggie Delk's face, And
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and said, you're you're messing with
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were. It was a it was
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hated each other. Of course,
it's a rivalry. I mean, Louisville

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clearly had been bullying Kentucky a little
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was, you know, expected to
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knew that he hated Rick. And
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had a lot of success in Kentucky
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had the most success that I guess
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my point is this, like we
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level of the rivalry, Like it
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when Rick was here and Cal was
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coached Kentucky, I wouldn't be shocked. Like let's say it's let's say Tubby,

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you know, never left, which, by the way, Tubby was

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there whenever. Well, yeah,
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a little while and Tubby had success, and I don't really remember how,

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you know, how friendly they were
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kind of just forget the fact that
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about Kentucky at all. And when
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him and the things that they said
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every I mean that I think that
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and I don't think you would disagree
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factors in the explo and growth of
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say what you want about those guys
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to a different company that's run I
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the actual website. But my point
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you know, their website really a
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of the Rick Patino content that they
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him good content. I should say
Rick gave him good content with the Karen

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like Rick doesn't get lost in the
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probably, I mean, I know
he knows who Matt is, and I

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know he was aware of some things
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listening to a whole lot of fans. That's just not him. He's you

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know, he's above that in his
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just still feel as if like he
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show and talking up Kentucky, I
just think you've never really given it a

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deep thought, and you never given
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fact that like that's natural. It
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at this point in his career now
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Kentucky. Finally, Kentucky, let's
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he was with the Knicks and clearly
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to say, but he became the
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he was the most talked about college
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coaches of every level. Obviously Phil
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a different level to where the Celtics
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feel bitter and never acknowledge them,
I think the rivalry component makes people like

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believe that that would be realistic,
but it's not at all. And Rick's

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a hard guy to like humanize because
you know, he's not relatable to most

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of us, but he is human, that is true, and I think

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it's understandable and reasonable for him to
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don't know if he wants them to
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tell us that he does, but
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because he still feels bitter about how
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He says he's not right. What's
his line, get better or not

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bitter? But he's bitter and he's
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and the people he I guess owes
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but still doesn't. That doesn't make
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But one component to this that he's
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loves these guys. He loves it. And I remember it came up a

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couple of weeks ago. Somebody asked, like, do you think the'll ever

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be a day where Rick Patino comes
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how that happens. Like if there's
no like if there's no if nothing happens

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until this point on the fifteen year
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team, if these guys asked him
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it and he could do it,
meaning he's not still coaching at Saint John's,

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or maybe he has the opening on
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and Russ, if they asked him
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it, and he could, he
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but not because of Louisville. And
I don't think if you asked him that

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he would blame fans or even blame
anybody currently involved. But he still feels

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as if his world got turned upside
down unfairly, and he blames Louisville.

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And again I think he'd tell you
it's Pizza Boy, Papa John, It's

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Greg Postal, who is a UK
fan, It's you know, David Grissom,

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who was clearly incompetent throughout his time
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And then who else was it?
Oh a Bevin. I don't know

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if he's ever mentioned Bevan. I
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think he knows it's geared towards them, But like, just because they're not

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around anymore doesn't make that a motion
that he has, and that bitterness that

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he has towards Louisville just disappear.
So again, I'm not telling anybody to

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like feel a certain way about Rick. You can feel however you want.

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I just I think if you really
gave it some thought and kind of put

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the rivalry emotion on pause for just
a moment, you'd realize, like,

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this is like he didn't really do
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football stuff is just weird. I'll
never be able to really understand why he

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did that or wanted to do that, but you know, chalk it up

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to Rick being Rick. A right
quick break will come back. On the

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other side, we'll hear from the
future of louisvill basketball. I mean,

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he's not the future coach, he's
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He did a really good interview with
Andy Katz, which I want you guys

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to hear. We'll chop it up
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half of it coming up here on
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enjoy it. So stick around.
We're about halfway through here on a Wednesday

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Coffee and company feel by Thornton's on
Sports Talk seven ninety right. So the

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text line five point two six five
three zero seven ninety is the LNN Federal

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Credit Union text line and a couple
of people A couple people have asked kind

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of the same question a little bit
differently. Do you think somebody asked Rick

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Patino to post that picture? I
would say no, I mean, maybe

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they did. I'm not sure.
Like, I think that's a I don't

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mean, I don't think he's doing
that to try to like make Louisville fans

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happy because they were upset about what
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thing for him to feel the I
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you know, he's clearly going to
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And by the way, nobody's ever
really like if somebody fact checked and

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found out that he didn't actually donate
money to the UK Football Like, would

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anybody be surprised if it wasn't true
and it would just be chocked up as

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Rick being Rick. But you know, even if somebody did encourage him,

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he does feel strongly about all those
guys that are in that picture that that

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he shared all right, let's see
here real quick, I'll mention this just

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because somebody had sent it in and
I think it's it's worth mentioning. The

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Evan Maya Evan Mayakawa. He's college
basketball analytics guy, kind of like a

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Ken Palm type of guy who has
his own formula and does a really good

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job of crunching numbers for those that
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basketball. He has updated transfer portal
activity class rankings, which is a lot

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that sounded just like a bunch of
mumble jumble, but he's got updated rankings

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here. I guess now that some
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he retooled something. I'm not quite
sure because I feel like he actually did

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this not that long ago, but
currently the top five programs in the twenty

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twenty four transfer portal class and again
he does it differently. Overall, transfer

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activity ranking is viewed in who you
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but the two that I think are
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think the bigger, the most valuable
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and what you added rather than just
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important to an extent, but as
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You know, you didn't lose anybody. That's a huge loss, and you

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brought in good players. Saint John's
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and their incoming class, and it's
really top heavy with Davion Smith who transferre

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from Utah and then Kadari Richmond I
think it's his name. Was that the

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guy who transferred from Seaton Hall to
Saint John's. Yeah, I mean this

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guy entered the portal not super late, but I kind of feel like everybody

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knew this guy was a good player, but like it just didn't get Like.

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He's the number one player in the
portal in college basketball and at least

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a couple of the rankings, and
Rick Matino landed him, so that's why

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he's at He's at number one in
both. But Vanderbilt is number two in

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overall transfer portal activity, Louisville number
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Kansas State's number five. They got
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they landed coleman aginst the last minute, and got some other guys along

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the way. So that's your top
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being hurt in these rankings by something
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and that's this despite their production kind
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the fact that Aaron Bradshawn DJ Wagnertle
left Kentucky and are still viewed as

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like really good players in the portal, They're being hurt. Kentucky's being hurt

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in these rankings because of that,
and those guys may be great at Ohio

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State in Arkansas respectively. But I
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Kentucky has added players that are better
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but if you look at just incoming
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where you rank as far as the
guys you brought in, which is a

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little a little misleading with Louisville and
even Kentucky because literally almost every single guy,

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is it two freshmen. They have
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and the kid who transferred from BYU
but never played because he was on

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that mission trip. But Louisville is
at number two with just the collective amount

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of guys they brought in, and
Indiana is at number eight, which they

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got to be being held down by
some of the last guys they got,

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because I'm sure Langdon Hatten wasn't somebody
that was highly touted. But I mean,

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not to guess up Woodie, but
like everybody they added other than the

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other than the kid from Bellermne.
That's his name, right, That's the

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guy I just mentioned. They're guys
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I don't really understand that. But
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then Kentucky is at number six,
so huge difference there. Kentucky's twelfth in

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overall activity. Six then just when
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and again it's because some of the
guys Kentucky lost don't look like big

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losses to you, and I get
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these metrics they do. All right, let's talk about the little of Men's

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clinic again, Fellas I'm telling you, there's a lot of things they could

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do to help you. You may
feel like you're good, right, you

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don't need any help. You're a
man, you're tough, you're strong,

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you're happy, you're healthy. And
if that's the case, God bless you.

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But what if you could be even
happier and healthier? And you'll never

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know until you go talk to the
friends that I have at the Louisville Men's

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Clinic doctor, would you know,
let him know? Say, Hey,

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Nick was talking about all the things
you can do. Here's my situation.

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Do you think there's something maybe that
you guys could do to help me out?

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And you know, there may be
a situation to where you don't need

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anything, and hey, you know, at least you tried. But I'd

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be willing to bet that if you
had your levels checked, you may feel

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like you're the toughest, most masculine
dude out there. But your levels may

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not be where they're supposed to be
for somebody your age, and you've just

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been and you've just been chalking that
up as being normal for years now.

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And then once you do get your
levels where there need to be with testosterone

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treatment, you'll feel like a million
bucks, just like I do. So

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again, liblemnsclinic dot COM's the website. Fibo two four four four four thousand

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is the number if you guys want
to give him a call. All right,

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Pat Kelsey on with Andy Katz,
which Kats used to work for ESPN.

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Now I think he works for like
everybody. He's on NCAA's website doing

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coverage. I think he works for
the Does he work for the Big ten

408
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network too? He has, I
don't know if he does currently, but

409
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I know he has before. He's
done some like studio work for him.

410
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So this is from the NABC website, which is the I think the National

411
00:26:07.119 --> 00:26:10.400
Association of Basketball Coaches. I think
that's what that stands for. But a

412
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sixteen minute conversation here. I'm not
going to play the entire thing right now,

413
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but here's the first half of it
as Pat Kelsey and Andy Katch chop

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it up and welcome everyone to an
off season ANYBC chat. I'm Andy Katz,

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00:26:22.880 --> 00:26:27.799
pleased to be joined by Louisville head
coach Pat Kelsey and Pat, I

416
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just want to go back a little
bit here because you had so many opportunities.

417
00:26:32.640 --> 00:26:37.839
You've had great success, and you
could have left a number of different

418
00:26:37.839 --> 00:26:41.880
times you chose to stay. You're
a very loyal person. Why was this

419
00:26:42.319 --> 00:26:48.160
the right fit at the right time. I mean, Andy, it's Louisville,

420
00:26:48.359 --> 00:26:52.720
and I have to correct you.
I'm so sorry, but I was

421
00:26:52.759 --> 00:26:57.319
corrected probably eight or nine times before
I finally got it right. Because in

422
00:26:57.359 --> 00:27:03.160
this town it's Louisville. You can't
say Louisville. Oh you're right, Sorry,

423
00:27:03.400 --> 00:27:06.559
sorry, Louisville. I've been corrected
so many times I can make it,

424
00:27:06.960 --> 00:27:10.519
thank you, But I think the
best way to answer it is,

425
00:27:11.240 --> 00:27:17.799
it's Louisville. It's Louisville, basketball
man. And I grew up ninety miles

426
00:27:17.799 --> 00:27:21.039
from here, so I was close
enough, you know, obviously, to

427
00:27:21.960 --> 00:27:27.039
feel the magic of the Louisville brand
in the eighties. But even if I

428
00:27:27.079 --> 00:27:30.759
didn't grow up ninety miles from here, and I grew up a million miles

429
00:27:30.759 --> 00:27:34.519
from here, it's one of the
most powerful brands in college basketball. It's

430
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one of the most tradition rich programs
ever, so I think the power and

431
00:27:38.640 --> 00:27:47.079
the mystique of this program's past was
what was the biggest thing. Well,

432
00:27:47.119 --> 00:27:51.079
and you're coming in at a pretty
crazy time, not just in the sport,

433
00:27:51.240 --> 00:27:56.839
But I don't think anyone could have
imagined that Louisville would be toward the

434
00:27:56.880 --> 00:28:00.079
bottom of the ACC or whatever league
it happened to be in. They've changed

435
00:28:00.079 --> 00:28:06.480
a lot of leagues during its history, and so you've got you know,

436
00:28:06.519 --> 00:28:10.359
you're here, and you've got the
ability to take it up to where it's

437
00:28:10.440 --> 00:28:15.920
been. How did you assess sort
of the landscape of the program of where

438
00:28:15.960 --> 00:28:19.559
the ACC is at this point where
there's a lot of movement, there's not

439
00:28:19.799 --> 00:28:23.200
sort of just these teams that you
can't see at the top of the mountain

440
00:28:23.240 --> 00:28:26.279
that you can't you know, try
to match, because we've seen a lot

441
00:28:26.319 --> 00:28:30.160
of different teams get up there with
do Carolina and take their turn. How

442
00:28:30.160 --> 00:28:33.960
did you assess sort of the overall
landscape of the job and the league.

443
00:28:36.400 --> 00:28:41.359
Well, you know, I started
my career in the ACC. Skip Prosser,

444
00:28:41.480 --> 00:28:45.720
the late great Skip Prosser, hired
me. He used to say it

445
00:28:45.759 --> 00:28:49.279
was the biggest meteoric rise in coaching
history. I went from the freshman basketball

446
00:28:49.319 --> 00:28:55.119
coach at Famed Elder High School in
Cincinnati, and I was selling cars for

447
00:28:55.240 --> 00:28:59.960
my dad on the side to the
ACC. I thought that was funny.

448
00:29:00.160 --> 00:29:04.000
It was the mediorc eyes. But
you know, so it's it's where I

449
00:29:04.039 --> 00:29:11.319
got my start in gosh, ACC
basketball is is traditionally the greatest league in

450
00:29:11.359 --> 00:29:15.519
the history of college basketball, in
my opinion, and you know, to

451
00:29:15.559 --> 00:29:18.880
be a part of this great league
again and there's there's there's movement, and

452
00:29:18.920 --> 00:29:25.799
there's changes and but that's that's happening. That's happening everywhere. But you know,

453
00:29:25.839 --> 00:29:27.359
you talked about like kind of where
the program has been the last couple

454
00:29:27.400 --> 00:29:33.000
of years. That's not my focus. My focus is what we're doing from

455
00:29:33.039 --> 00:29:36.000
the moment we took the job I
think one hundred and two days ago now,

456
00:29:36.680 --> 00:29:40.079
Uh, and moving forward. So
what's happened in the past is the

457
00:29:40.119 --> 00:29:44.200
past, and what happens in the
future is what we're all about. So,

458
00:29:44.319 --> 00:29:51.359
look, there's a different path in
terms of roster management for everybody and

459
00:29:51.359 --> 00:29:56.119
and resources. Are you know good
at Louisville. Uh, it's different than

460
00:29:56.200 --> 00:30:00.880
where you've been, that's just obvious. But what was your your mentality at

461
00:30:00.920 --> 00:30:04.000
least in this first year. Maybe
going forward, you pick up Chucky Hepburn,

462
00:30:04.039 --> 00:30:08.359
who had a great career at Wisconsin
to try to manage sort of high

463
00:30:08.400 --> 00:30:15.400
school international transfer to get this thing
going right off the bat. Yeah,

464
00:30:15.440 --> 00:30:19.640
you know, it was a crazy
whirlwind of the first several months because you

465
00:30:19.680 --> 00:30:23.519
know, we started at zero,
right, we had to build an entire

466
00:30:23.680 --> 00:30:30.119
roster. And I give my staff
a ton of credit, and I think

467
00:30:30.160 --> 00:30:34.119
I have the best basketball coaching staff
in the entire country. They make this

468
00:30:34.200 --> 00:30:38.440
dude look smart, which is pretty
hard to do. So they busted their

469
00:30:38.480 --> 00:30:44.519
tail. And I know it's boring
interview speak, but we stuck to our

470
00:30:44.519 --> 00:30:48.480
process what we believe in. Obviously, we had to utilize the portal heavily,

471
00:30:49.680 --> 00:30:52.680
you know, getting the job kind
of you know, in the spring

472
00:30:52.839 --> 00:30:57.000
and starting from zero, and we
wanted to put together a team that can

473
00:30:57.039 --> 00:31:02.119
compete from day one. So,
you know, we have a process that

474
00:31:02.160 --> 00:31:04.759
we go about and how we identify
guys in the portal that we want to

475
00:31:04.799 --> 00:31:11.920
recruit, you know, traditional recruiting, grassroots recruiting, underclass recruiting, high

476
00:31:11.960 --> 00:31:15.200
school recruiting obviously, or relationships built
over a long long time, and that's

477
00:31:15.240 --> 00:31:18.680
always going to be at the center
and the heart and soul of our recruiting

478
00:31:18.720 --> 00:31:22.839
efforts in the portal. It's kind
of recruiting on steroids. You know,

479
00:31:22.920 --> 00:31:30.119
what usually is a two year process
sometimes becomes a two week process, so

480
00:31:30.759 --> 00:31:33.839
you can't skip steps. You have
to make sure you're doing your due diligence

481
00:31:33.880 --> 00:31:38.400
and making your calls. But at
the same time, you know, thirty

482
00:31:38.440 --> 00:31:42.759
forty other schools are trying to recruit
the same person. So all these things

483
00:31:42.759 --> 00:31:45.920
are going on at the same time, where you're building a relationships, selling

484
00:31:47.039 --> 00:31:49.799
your program, and that the ends
at the same time checking all the box

485
00:31:49.880 --> 00:31:55.160
to make sure that the players you're
bringing in that you're recruiting are great fits.

486
00:31:56.200 --> 00:31:57.359
I don't want to dwell in the
past. I won't, but they're

487
00:31:57.359 --> 00:32:01.839
obviously you know, the us some
apathy. I think that has changed dramatically

488
00:32:01.920 --> 00:32:06.440
just with your hire, because of
your passion and your energy. If I'm

489
00:32:06.480 --> 00:32:09.799
a Louisville fan, Louisville fan,
Uh, what am I going to see

490
00:32:09.799 --> 00:32:15.440
on day one when I get to
the YOUM center on the floor at both

491
00:32:15.559 --> 00:32:21.160
ends. Yeah, that's a great
question. And I was asked questions similar

492
00:32:21.160 --> 00:32:23.000
to that at my press conference and
what's this going to look like? And

493
00:32:23.039 --> 00:32:27.640
what are we going to be this
year? And you know, I'm I'm

494
00:32:27.680 --> 00:32:32.960
a big believer that those things will
take care of themselves. If everybody in

495
00:32:32.960 --> 00:32:37.640
an organization, starting with me,
all the way down to the student managers

496
00:32:38.440 --> 00:32:43.599
are doing their job every single day
with excellence. We got a weightlifting session

497
00:32:43.640 --> 00:32:46.920
that's going to start here in three
minutes, and the goal of that weightlifting

498
00:32:46.960 --> 00:32:52.119
session is to be the greatest weightlifting
session in the history of our program.

499
00:32:52.960 --> 00:32:54.119
And then as we turn the page
to the next thing we do, and

500
00:32:54.160 --> 00:32:58.200
the next thing we do, and
the next thing we do, that'll be

501
00:32:58.240 --> 00:33:02.799
our focus and always been my way. Right. I let the guys like

502
00:33:02.880 --> 00:33:08.079
you right make all the prognozers a
lot, But what style of play?

503
00:33:08.119 --> 00:33:13.119
What? What will what will me
and everyone else? What will we see

504
00:33:13.119 --> 00:33:15.359
in time? I want to play
well. First of all. I think,

505
00:33:15.720 --> 00:33:19.200
you know, Skip Pross used to
say a team usually takes on the

506
00:33:19.240 --> 00:33:22.079
personality of their coach. So you're
gonna see a high energy team, you

507
00:33:22.119 --> 00:33:27.160
know, that plays hard. I
like to think that our teams, our

508
00:33:27.200 --> 00:33:31.000
staffs, teams, my teams play
with grit, play with tenacity, play

509
00:33:31.039 --> 00:33:36.119
with passion, play with fire.
We're always going to play stinking hard.

510
00:33:37.559 --> 00:33:43.680
Our teams are usually from an offensive
standpoint, dynamic in terms of our pace,

511
00:33:43.759 --> 00:33:45.079
how we play, we push the
ball, we play downhill. There's

512
00:33:45.079 --> 00:33:51.039
a lot of possessions in our game. We value ball movement, people movement.

513
00:33:51.359 --> 00:33:54.400
Uh. We value three point shooting
typically one of the you know,

514
00:33:54.960 --> 00:34:00.240
uh towards the tops of the country, and three point volume rate. We're

515
00:34:00.240 --> 00:34:04.400
also usually very very good in offensive
rebounding, so we go and pursue our

516
00:34:04.400 --> 00:34:08.039
own missus as well. On the
defensive end. You know, we're going

517
00:34:08.119 --> 00:34:14.559
to be a tough, nasty,
tenacious I like to think Manda Man team

518
00:34:14.599 --> 00:34:19.559
predominantly all right. So we'll get
to the rest of that a little later

519
00:34:19.599 --> 00:34:22.559
on. And a lot of that, of course, is things that you've

520
00:34:22.559 --> 00:34:24.719
already heard from from Pat Kelsey and
his other interviews that he's done, including

521
00:34:24.719 --> 00:34:29.599
when he joined us on the show
here. But I know Louisville fans have

522
00:34:29.679 --> 00:34:34.039
to appreciate him already, feeling I
mean, he is clearly one of us.

523
00:34:34.079 --> 00:34:36.719
He's leading the basketball program. He's
the guy that has been tasked to

524
00:34:36.719 --> 00:34:38.239
get this thing turned around. And
I think he's got a lot of support

525
00:34:38.239 --> 00:34:40.840
here so far. But obviously we
have to wait and see what happens.

526
00:34:40.840 --> 00:34:46.039
However, he feels as if it's
his duty to correct people who don't say

527
00:34:46.079 --> 00:34:51.679
Louisville correctly and say what Andy Kat
said, which is Louisville I don't know.

528
00:34:51.679 --> 00:34:53.719
That's the fact that he's already doing
that is I think a good sign.

529
00:34:54.280 --> 00:34:57.079
All right, quick break, we'll
come back on the other side,

530
00:34:57.519 --> 00:35:00.320
and to wrap up the four o'clock
hour, I want to talk about something

531
00:35:00.360 --> 00:35:01.920
at some point. I don't if
we're gonna have time to do it before

532
00:35:01.920 --> 00:35:04.920
we get to the five o'clock hour, but at some point I do want

533
00:35:04.960 --> 00:35:07.599
to talk about something that I'll give
credit where it's due. It was somebody

534
00:35:07.679 --> 00:35:10.800
a former NBA player on Instagram had
posted this, but like it's a very

535
00:35:10.880 --> 00:35:17.440
obvious thing to bring up in the
always played out lebron versus MJ thing,

536
00:35:17.519 --> 00:35:21.679
but it has something with Bronnie James. I think it's a really good point

537
00:35:21.679 --> 00:35:23.000
that I haven't heard many people talk
about. So we'll get to that in

538
00:35:23.039 --> 00:35:24.960
a lot of other things throughout the
rest of the show, So stick with

539
00:35:25.039 --> 00:35:29.639
us right here, Coffee and Company
feel about Thorton's on Sports Talk seven ninety

540
00:35:30.760 --> 00:35:34.480
as we wrap up the four o'clock
hour, A couple things on the football

541
00:35:34.519 --> 00:35:40.840
side to share with you. When
it comes to the on three rankings of

542
00:35:40.880 --> 00:35:47.840
the G five transfers only meaning guys
who are transferring into the ACC from a

543
00:35:47.920 --> 00:35:53.599
non Power five, they've got a
top ten and Louisville's got some major presence

544
00:35:53.639 --> 00:35:58.199
here. In fact. Number one
is Colin Lacy, the receiver from South

545
00:35:58.239 --> 00:36:02.159
Alabama, which you know we talked
about him really since he decided to transfer

546
00:36:02.199 --> 00:36:05.920
Louisville because he was one of the
big gets in the portal, but he

547
00:36:05.920 --> 00:36:07.320
did not have a I don't want
see he had a good or bat spring.

548
00:36:07.480 --> 00:36:09.679
It just was you didn't hear a
whole lot about him, and I'm

549
00:36:09.679 --> 00:36:14.440
not sure if that's for any reason, but he is still somebody that has

550
00:36:14.679 --> 00:36:19.360
proven to be a pretty I mean, I'm pretty I'm trying to find the

551
00:36:19.440 --> 00:36:23.880
number here, but there may be
only one player in college football that's returning

552
00:36:23.960 --> 00:36:28.519
this twenty twenty four season that has
more receiving yards than Colin Lacey. So,

553
00:36:28.599 --> 00:36:30.199
yes, he did it at South
Alabama. That's a lower level.

554
00:36:31.039 --> 00:36:36.320
But you know the top receiver leisvel
had last year also came from that level,

555
00:36:36.400 --> 00:36:39.760
right, I mean, Jamari Thrash
was a pretty successful G five transfer

556
00:36:39.800 --> 00:36:45.679
to the ACC and hopefully Colin Lacey
is the same thing. Number two is

557
00:36:45.840 --> 00:36:47.920
justin Jolly, the tight end to
transferred from Yukon to NC State, but

558
00:36:49.000 --> 00:36:52.239
Number three is louisvill was tied in
Mark Redman, who was an All Mountain

559
00:36:52.280 --> 00:36:57.079
West performer at San Diego State.
And then at number five is Thor Griffin

560
00:36:57.440 --> 00:37:00.840
of Griffith. I should say who
I this guy is. You know,

561
00:37:00.079 --> 00:37:04.639
there's a lot of hypes surrounding him. He already had some NFL buzz after

562
00:37:05.000 --> 00:37:08.159
a great successful run there at Harvard. But you know, if it does

563
00:37:08.239 --> 00:37:13.960
translate like seventy five percent, he's
gonna make a really big impact. He's

564
00:37:14.320 --> 00:37:17.079
He's one of those guys that you
see on the Freakly the Freakalist every year

565
00:37:17.119 --> 00:37:22.920
from Bruce Feldman, just guys who
physically and athletically are are different. You

566
00:37:22.960 --> 00:37:23.960
know, you never know what you're
gonna get from the Ivy League. That's

567
00:37:23.960 --> 00:37:28.679
a much different level than even G
five. But this guy had a lot

568
00:37:28.679 --> 00:37:31.840
of options transferring from Harvard, and
you know, Jeff Brown feels really good

569
00:37:31.840 --> 00:37:36.480
about his d line and I would
imagine Thor Griffith is is a part of

570
00:37:36.519 --> 00:37:38.239
that. And then the only other
leus of a guy mentioned here in the

571
00:37:38.280 --> 00:37:45.519
top ten is Jordan Gerard, who
was kind of a late addition in the

572
00:37:45.559 --> 00:37:49.280
portal. He transferred from well I
don't think he was that late, but

573
00:37:49.400 --> 00:37:52.079
he just didn't get mentioned a whole
lot. But FIU is where he transferred

574
00:37:52.079 --> 00:37:53.400
from, and obviously they weren't very
good last year, but he graded out

575
00:37:53.400 --> 00:37:57.440
as one of the best defensive linemen
in the G at the G five level,

576
00:37:57.960 --> 00:38:01.119
was an all conference performer there at
FIU. So again, obviously there's

577
00:38:01.119 --> 00:38:06.360
always the question mark is just how
much of that will translate from the lower

578
00:38:06.480 --> 00:38:09.880
level to the power for previously power
five, and you really never know until

579
00:38:09.880 --> 00:38:13.880
you actually get out there and see
results. But again, last year,

580
00:38:13.920 --> 00:38:16.000
I think Louisville was able to see
that. Just because somebody you know,

581
00:38:16.559 --> 00:38:21.239
played below the power four or five
doesn't mean they can't come up and help

582
00:38:21.280 --> 00:38:22.239
you in a major way. I
mean, I think tomorrow Thrash might have

583
00:38:22.280 --> 00:38:27.159
been better at Louisville than he was. Was it Georgia State that he transferred

584
00:38:27.159 --> 00:38:30.840
from. I think that's right.
Also, really quickly before we get out

585
00:38:30.840 --> 00:38:31.679
of here at the top, you
know we're not leaving. Yeah, we

586
00:38:31.719 --> 00:38:37.320
another hour, so make sure you
guys stick around. But another football thing

587
00:38:37.320 --> 00:38:44.639
here to Brent to mention the the
what's the what's the award? Let's see

588
00:38:44.639 --> 00:38:46.559
here. I want to make sure
I get it correct, because if Jeff

589
00:38:46.599 --> 00:38:50.079
wins this, we're going to be
talking up this award like it's the biggest

590
00:38:50.079 --> 00:38:53.039
award ever. Yeah. So it's
the Bobby Dodd Coach of the Year preseason

591
00:38:53.119 --> 00:38:57.519
watch list, which Jeff Brawm was
one of the twenty one coaches on that

592
00:38:57.599 --> 00:39:00.199
list, So shout out to him. Not a surprise. I mean,

593
00:39:00.239 --> 00:39:01.840
he wasn't gonna win National Coach of
the Year and he didn't even win acc

594
00:39:01.960 --> 00:39:05.639
Coach of the Year last year,
But still doesn't mean he didn't have a

595
00:39:05.679 --> 00:39:09.039
great I mean, he totally took
advantage of his first season and really gave

596
00:39:09.199 --> 00:39:16.119
the program a lot of momentum.
But these preseason watch lists, like we

597
00:39:16.159 --> 00:39:20.159
all know, they don't mean a
whole lot because you cannot be on it

598
00:39:20.199 --> 00:39:22.320
and then be added once you actually, you know, have results within the

599
00:39:22.360 --> 00:39:24.719
season. Like I'm not really sure, Like John, what do you what

600
00:39:24.760 --> 00:39:29.559
do you think they would tell us
as far as why they choose to even

601
00:39:29.599 --> 00:39:34.519
put out a preseason watch list.
Yeah, I've never really finished a value

602
00:39:34.519 --> 00:39:37.119
yourself, because I mean, I
guess you're basing all of it off of

603
00:39:37.239 --> 00:39:40.639
potential or maybe past results, especially
when you're thinking about guys who have already

604
00:39:40.639 --> 00:39:45.159
played a couple of years the college
level. So what to me, it's

605
00:39:45.199 --> 00:39:47.840
it just gives people an example to
like say either that you left somebody off,

606
00:39:49.039 --> 00:39:53.559
which wish they did here, or
that you know, like, wow,

607
00:39:53.800 --> 00:39:57.920
you really showed us that you were
way way wrong here because you had

608
00:39:57.920 --> 00:40:00.079
five guys on this list coaches or
play depending on what the award is,

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and like none of those guys were
nearly as good. They might as well

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just let big Game Boomer make these
things exactly exactly. So again, like

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I I'm not surprised that all the
Jeff's on the list, and I have

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no reason to think that if Lowell
has a good season he won't be considered

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for that award. But they left
off a guy who I think you could

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argue has I mean as far as
a name that a lot of people didn't

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know recently in the last few years. I think this guy now is a

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known name and has a lot of
momentum. That's Dan Landing at Oregon,

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Like, how could he not be
on the list? Yeah, he was,

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Like, that's just clearly one of
the top candidates to be Alabama's head

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coach. He turned him down,
right, I mean, like, I

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just I don't know. He's been
at Oregon since two thousand and twenty two,

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so he's entering his fourth season.
They went twelve and two, eight

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and one in the PAC twelve last
year, won the Fiesta Bowl. He

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was ten and three in his first
in his first year. I mean,

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like, I think it's clearly like
cause again it's not just because he's a

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good coach, but like, this
guy's got momentum like this guy's is.

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I mean, he's the only guy
that, like pretty much everybody who covered

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this coaching search for Bama, Like
there's other guys that got extensions right and

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acted as if they turned Bama down, which I don't believe all these guys

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did, but I believe Dan Lanning
did. Like it was quite clear that's

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who they wanted, and within twenty
four hours, like you know, he

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said he's staying at Oregon. So
yeah, I mean, I'm not bitter

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about Jeff not winning those awards last
year because the Coach of the Year award,

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like there should be two of them. There should be the coach who

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has the best season, coach of
the year did the best job coaching,

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because the results tell you that and
there should be the Overachiever of the year

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because they're two different things, and
sometimes, you know, the award just

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goes to one of those two,
and it's really two different types of criteria.

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And last year Florida State exploded through
had an undefeated season the until the

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uh you know, to the bowl
game where they got killed. But Brohm,

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last year, I mean that was
I mean, Louisville was seven and

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one in the acc All right,
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