1 00:00:02,640 --> 00:00:09,400 The different once the chorus comes in, just for let us say the name. 2 00:00:11,679 --> 00:00:20,640 H oh, I ain't grow up in the hood, but I'm good 3 00:00:20,760 --> 00:00:24,239 damn. Try to walk in my shoes, not the good path. Steal 4 00:00:24,359 --> 00:00:29,559 ball on a hougain and one from the father with a game understand some move 5 00:00:29,640 --> 00:00:32,759 with the work, sort of like a tan dump. I'm about to take 6 00:00:32,799 --> 00:00:36,600 the rat cap for ransom. Different meetings when we greet them and say hands 7 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:40,640 up, kills me it pancake. Charles Manson putin get a boy pen. 8 00:00:40,799 --> 00:00:43,439 Don't you know that is she spinds. I'm just trying to touch the world. 9 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:46,240 Paper was my middle man. Ma'maa send no rid of limb. They 10 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:48,679 go not the way you think. I was trying to buy some hope. 11 00:00:48,799 --> 00:00:52,200 Not in the track. People problems come up plate trying to get them in 12 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:55,560 a c pull tim. I was healing beats, pullamas in the set still 13 00:00:55,600 --> 00:00:59,200 a dollar only. I was making sense, trying to get this money straight 14 00:00:59,439 --> 00:01:03,239 just about commendess call it this dride like I'm chout. Can't count the times 15 00:01:03,319 --> 00:01:07,239 I came from Coachhoulters hit me in the rocks a week and make bold to 16 00:01:07,359 --> 00:01:11,120 my son gole put squares like PlayStation control of pols up. They pray that 17 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:15,040 I retired, but I got it like Trump when I spent five till the 18 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:17,760 wall to run the prophet. Call it how you want it. I'm gonna 19 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:19,560 treat them how they treat me. Start it from the bottom. Never said 20 00:01:19,599 --> 00:01:26,519 it would be easy. And I remember when DMX used to come in in 21 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:36,560 those prayers church and hon we're gonna have to and this one with a prayer. 22 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:44,719 I hope y'all win me, Heavenly Father, I feel remorse for the 23 00:01:44,799 --> 00:01:48,079 pain of costs on my grind. Stable lives in my hand. The boss 24 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:51,480 many times close my eyes. It ain't for the stars. Remember, it's 25 00:01:51,519 --> 00:01:55,239 gonna take friction if you want to spark to see the church and when the 26 00:01:55,359 --> 00:01:59,519 night starts. But ain't he a man who could like dark my God? 27 00:01:59,599 --> 00:02:02,040 He helped bouncy park is trying to turn the bag and for a park and 28 00:02:02,200 --> 00:03:00,800 swarp it man escaped and bounce Lordy and street to have mom. You're not 29 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:15,719 next to me. I read the gold hung and with the way in like 30 00:03:15,879 --> 00:03:30,800 an eight can I myself every day? I dreaded nine b he drowned ro 31 00:03:35,879 --> 00:04:13,599 five can't be h and read walking in the poetry, then walking in some 32 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:34,160 and Nazi face read nicety to an old feel too. If I know I 33 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:54,879 can't DestinE, read nicy u sap if I do, and feed by side 34 00:04:57,600 --> 00:05:21,240 I rensteeping in by lone and street to hay month in nine next. Good 35 00:05:21,319 --> 00:05:24,600 morning, everybody, welcome, here we go. It is that time again, 36 00:05:24,759 --> 00:05:30,560 Matt Connerton unleashed and we are live from the studios of wm NH ninety 37 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:33,519 five point three FM, Inglorious, Manchester, New Hampshire, here on Canal 38 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:39,519 Street. Today is Saturday, June thirteen, twenty twenty four. We have 39 00:05:39,639 --> 00:05:42,920 a very very busy show for you today. We opened, of course with 40 00:05:43,199 --> 00:05:46,279 the brand new single from Hope the Rapper that what is called Heavenly Father. 41 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:49,879 Is we are in week five of our ten world radio premieres of new singles 42 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:54,480 from Hope the Rapper. Ten weeks of world radio premieres, and that is 43 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:57,920 the fifth one in the series. That is Heavenly Father by our friend Hope 44 00:05:57,959 --> 00:06:00,040 the Rapper, really really great stuff. And the track that we heard after 45 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:05,399 that is called if I Can't Be with You and that is by mister Cameron 46 00:06:05,639 --> 00:06:12,199 Suttfinn who is here with us on this this very humid Saturday morning. Welcome 47 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:15,279 Cameron. Yeah, thanks for having me. Great to have you here, 48 00:06:15,439 --> 00:06:16,759 and I'm looking forward to hearing you play. You did bring your guitar. 49 00:06:16,879 --> 00:06:21,120 And by the way, so congratulations are in order. I believe you're about 50 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:24,959 to get married. Yes, I'm getting married. So we're less than a 51 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:27,560 week so I'm getting married next Friday. Oh very good. Yeah, I 52 00:06:27,639 --> 00:06:30,160 saw I saw your Facebook post. This is your last public performance before the 53 00:06:30,199 --> 00:06:35,720 wedding. So I'm doing the Sanddown Summer Concert Series on Tuesday. Oh. 54 00:06:36,439 --> 00:06:40,600 Fiance and I are both working right up until the wedding. Oh no kidding. 55 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:43,000 Yeah, yeah, good for you. Good for you. Well, 56 00:06:43,399 --> 00:06:46,399 I'm dying to hear you play something if you want to. Yeah. Thanks. 57 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:49,360 Yeah. So this is this first track on the album. It was 58 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:53,680 put out last month and it's called John Henry. This was my attempt at 59 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:57,040 writing a John Henry song because being a Folks singer, I wanted one because 60 00:06:57,079 --> 00:07:06,639 everyone else has one, all right. John Henry was a steel driving main. 61 00:07:09,639 --> 00:07:16,399 John Henry was a steel driving main. He never worked for Call because 62 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:26,519 they tortured land. John Henry was a steel dripping Paine the mountains. I 63 00:07:26,959 --> 00:07:38,360 be torn down the mountains. I be torn down faster than John Henry ever 64 00:07:38,639 --> 00:07:47,199 slung his hand around the mountains. I be torn down. There's dirty water 65 00:07:47,439 --> 00:07:58,240 in the streams. There's dirty water in the streams. Very good for man. 66 00:07:58,399 --> 00:08:05,199 But the only car out machines. There's dirty water in the streams. 67 00:08:28,879 --> 00:08:39,000 John Henry beat the steam drill with only a hamper in his hand. Bloody. 68 00:08:39,039 --> 00:08:48,720 It'll take more than that to red coal from this lane. The air 69 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:58,200 in the mountains ain't clean. The air in the mountains aint clean. And 70 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:05,039 you can't beat us steam drill. If Camberine the AA in the mountains at 71 00:09:07,519 --> 00:09:16,840 John Henry was a steel trapping Maine. John Henry was a steel driving main. 72 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:24,399 He never looked far because they told you then. John Henry was a 73 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:37,879 steel draving main. John Henry was a steam trapping main. Oh, I 74 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:41,399 love it. I love it. Cameron Sutfit is with us a live in 75 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:45,399 studio here, and uh, you sound great. Your voice is unique. 76 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:48,559 I can't think of I can't think of anyone who sounds quite like you. 77 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:54,600 You get compared to anybody that I'm maybe not thinking of sometimes Bob Dylan, 78 00:09:54,639 --> 00:09:56,879 because I like I like Bob Dylan, and I also I'm a big Neil 79 00:09:56,919 --> 00:10:01,200 Young fan, Okay, but I don't have a tie of voices Neil Young 80 00:10:01,279 --> 00:10:03,600 does. Yeah, No, that's that's true. Yeah. Are those are 81 00:10:03,639 --> 00:10:07,440 those guys big influences of yours? Oh? Yeah, yeah, I got 82 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:11,080 into I got into Bob Dylan when I was a teenager. So my first 83 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:15,600 Bob Dylan record, because I'm in my thirties, was Modern Times from the 84 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:18,720 two thousands, and then I had to go backwards. Oh okay, and 85 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:22,320 you know figure out that there was the Free Wheel and Bob Dylan, you 86 00:10:22,399 --> 00:10:26,759 know, Blonde on Blonde and Nashville Skyline and all the other ones. Did 87 00:10:28,159 --> 00:10:31,559 did going back and listening to those earlier releases did that kind of change? 88 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:33,960 Like? Did you? Did you appreciate those more? Because you know, 89 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:37,440 artists who've been around for you know, decades, like Bob Dylan, who've 90 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:41,639 had that kind of a career. You know, everybody always says, oh, 91 00:10:41,679 --> 00:10:45,039 I like the earlier stuff better. But I'm curious if from your perspective, 92 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:50,039 because you you really discovered him late in his career, I'm curious if 93 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:54,000 if you feel that same way or I mean, I I like the early 94 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:56,840 stuff. It's you know, I think I think most everything Bob Dylan does 95 00:10:56,919 --> 00:11:00,240 is genius. But I remember going I saw Bob Dylan many years ago with 96 00:11:00,399 --> 00:11:03,440 my family in Amherst, Massachusetts, and I was sitting next to So I 97 00:11:03,519 --> 00:11:07,399 went with my mom and my dad and my brother, and I was sitting 98 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:13,000 next to my mom and he started playing stuff from Modern Times on up to 99 00:11:13,279 --> 00:11:16,559 Temptest, which was the latest record at that point, and my mom looks 100 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:20,279 at me goes, how do you know these songs because he's not doing anything 101 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:22,120 from the seventies. I think at the end he did Tangled Up in Blue, 102 00:11:22,159 --> 00:11:24,879 and my mom was like, oh, okay, I know that one. 103 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:28,559 Yeah, yeah, I know. I've heard that he'll do that, 104 00:11:28,799 --> 00:11:33,480 Like he'll kind he doesn't necessarily want to load up his set with a lot 105 00:11:33,519 --> 00:11:37,559 of the earlier material, which is interesting because there were probably people, I 106 00:11:37,639 --> 00:11:39,519 mean, they might not have shown it, but there were probably people in 107 00:11:39,559 --> 00:11:43,879 that audience who were actually not pleased that he wasn't leaning more on the earlier 108 00:11:43,919 --> 00:11:46,799 stuff, you know what I mean. There were behind us where the band 109 00:11:46,879 --> 00:11:52,279 DAWs was opening for him, so there were some There was a couple guys 110 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:54,799 there who I thought were older. They were probably my age or mid twenties. 111 00:11:56,440 --> 00:12:00,960 I was a teenager I was at the time, and they were there 112 00:12:01,039 --> 00:12:05,399 for DAWs and for the modern times up so there was about about half and 113 00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:09,600 half of the crowd, yes younger than half was was you know, wanted 114 00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:13,320 the you know seventies eighties material, right right, that's interesting, And tell 115 00:12:13,399 --> 00:12:16,960 us about this album. So you sent me. Now this is your debut 116 00:12:16,159 --> 00:12:18,960 album, not your debut release, because you have an EP that you have 117 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:22,600 put out previously, but the song that we played at the top of the 118 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:26,679 show, and we're gonna play another one of course later. But these are 119 00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:31,960 from your thirteen track full full length album. Yep. Yeah, yes, 120 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:33,879 yep, it's a ten track and yeah, okay, yep. I made 121 00:12:33,879 --> 00:12:37,720 it in a Rocking Horse studio in Pasfield, New Hampshire. I'm bad at 122 00:12:37,759 --> 00:12:41,159 math. Rocking Horse, that's a name that comes up a lot on the 123 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:43,960 show. Yep, they're really great. And then I so I went there 124 00:12:45,039 --> 00:12:48,600 and recorded with my guitar, and then I outsourced because I know some musicians 125 00:12:48,639 --> 00:12:50,039 in Nashville. I used to live in Nashville, Tennessee, and so I 126 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:56,159 so I had the bass player. The upright bass player was from upstate New 127 00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:58,519 York and he comes down to Rocking Horse once a month and does a whole 128 00:12:58,519 --> 00:13:03,639 bunch of set. And then the steel players from Nashville. The fiddle player 129 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:07,960 Amy Alvey now lives in Nashville, but she used to live in Boston. 130 00:13:09,039 --> 00:13:13,120 She's in a bluegrass duo called Golden Shoals, and I met her on a 131 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:18,000 tour called the Massachusetts Walking Tour many years ago. And then I had my 132 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:22,799 friend Kat Kennedy sing on a couple of tracks and she's out in l A. 133 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:28,240 And then my my friend Mary Hastings, who's out of Conquered New Hampshire, 134 00:13:28,279 --> 00:13:33,720 where I am technically out of until August first, but after the wedding 135 00:13:33,799 --> 00:13:39,519 will be there anymore. She sang backing vocals in Rocking Horse, so okay, 136 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:41,559 And we used to play in a duo called New Leaves, and we 137 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:46,840 stopped that duo last year because Mary went back to school full time. Is 138 00:13:46,919 --> 00:13:50,080 that who I'm here? Because because there's a couple of songs where yeah, 139 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:56,200 I hear this female backing vocal that it's just beautiful or actually on what track 140 00:13:56,399 --> 00:13:58,679 is it? Oh? I think it's Mansion on the Hill. Yeah, 141 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:01,799 that's she she sings with you, Yeah, and you sound amazing together. 142 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:05,399 Thank you? Yep. So so yeah, and that's that song I wrote 143 00:14:05,519 --> 00:14:11,080 in That's the only song I played that I wrote in college really because the 144 00:14:11,399 --> 00:14:16,200 because when you go to Nashville about your first writer's round, you realize you 145 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:18,320 have to throw you Oh shoot, that's not good, you know, I 146 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:22,919 have to yeah, start over. What is that a writer's round For people 147 00:14:22,919 --> 00:14:26,960 who don't know, it's where you play you get up with with. It's 148 00:14:28,039 --> 00:14:31,759 you and two or three other writers. Yeah, and you play three to 149 00:14:31,879 --> 00:14:33,279 four songs and you just go around, so you just go right down the 150 00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:37,679 line. Is that unique to Nashville? Do you know? Or do they? 151 00:14:37,919 --> 00:14:39,200 I don't know. Maybe I think maybe I've heard of that happening in 152 00:14:39,279 --> 00:14:41,559 New York too, But it seems like it's kind of an unusual thing. 153 00:14:41,679 --> 00:14:46,279 I started in Nashville. There's a couple of places that do it. In 154 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:50,399 There was a place prior to twenty twenty called the Open Door Cafe and I 155 00:14:50,519 --> 00:14:52,600 played there that was in near like Hillsborough, New Hampshire. They would move 156 00:14:52,679 --> 00:14:56,440 locations so they played basement of an old church that played on a farm, 157 00:14:56,519 --> 00:15:01,440 and they would have one feature that would get forty five minutes and then they 158 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:05,440 would have a couple rounds of people. Okay, so yeah, people have 159 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:07,080 you know, taken that, but that was a Nashville model that moved its 160 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:11,519 way up to New York. And Okay, is that intimidating the first time 161 00:15:11,559 --> 00:15:13,879 you do that? Because I mean, you're in Nashville, you know you're 162 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:20,080 you're among some heavy hitters. Is that nerve racking or it? It was? 163 00:15:20,279 --> 00:15:24,000 I think the second time. Oh no, no, no, the 164 00:15:24,039 --> 00:15:26,159 first time I did it. I did it. It was called the Commodore 165 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:31,360 Hotel and the feature. I didn't know who the feature was, and I 166 00:15:31,519 --> 00:15:33,639 was going after the feature. I was in the last round of the night 167 00:15:33,679 --> 00:15:39,960 because I was new. And the feature gets up and he says, this 168 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:43,759 song is a song that I wrote and it's currently in the top thirty on 169 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:46,919 the country charts and plays it and they goes, this song was a top 170 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:52,840 twenty two years ago, and I went, can I not? Like, 171 00:15:54,039 --> 00:15:56,360 why couldn't you put me on earlier? I don't want to follow that, 172 00:15:56,679 --> 00:16:00,279 Like this guy's got hits, he has kids. And then so he played 173 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:02,960 like three or four hits and then he's like, this is a new song. 174 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:07,200 I went, thank goodness, that's intimidating it. I can imagine, 175 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:11,200 I can imagine. Well, I'm dying to hear you play another one. 176 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:14,120 If you're just joining us. We have Cameron Suttfin here with us live in 177 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:15,399 studio. By the way, is this the earliest in the day you've ever 178 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:22,120 played live? Anywhere? Did when I moved back to when I moved back 179 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:27,240 to New England in twenty nineteen, I think I did a radio interview near 180 00:16:27,399 --> 00:16:30,840 Pittsfield, Massachusetts. I believe that one was seven thirty or eight in the 181 00:16:30,919 --> 00:16:34,360 morning. Okay, yeah, that think that was the earliest, yeah, 182 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:37,799 ever I've ever played. Yeah, yeah, or It's not so much the 183 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:41,559 plan, right, it's the singing that's the challenge. In the morning. 184 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:45,440 You sound great though, thank you. I've had my coffee. Yeah yeah, 185 00:16:45,519 --> 00:16:48,159 I mean I can wake up and play guitar, you know, yeah, 186 00:16:48,399 --> 00:16:52,879 anytime in the morning, So we'll do this. One's cold without her, 187 00:16:52,039 --> 00:17:12,720 all right? Every sunrise and set, every chord that I fret, 188 00:17:14,799 --> 00:17:22,759 it doesn't matter. It's all a wayste without her. Every line that I 189 00:17:23,039 --> 00:17:33,400 write doesn't matter. On a lonesome night, there are all aways without her. 190 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:41,960 When I walk down the street, there's no one beside me. I'm 191 00:17:42,079 --> 00:17:56,720 alone in a crowd without her. When I turn out my lights, there's 192 00:17:56,759 --> 00:18:07,240 no one to haul me through the night. When I get up in the 193 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:34,920 morning, come there all along. And when I dream there's only darkness. 194 00:18:36,319 --> 00:18:45,599 It seems I can't see the lie without her. When I go to the 195 00:18:45,759 --> 00:18:53,720 bar, it doesn't feel right at all, because I try to forget I'm 196 00:18:55,039 --> 00:19:07,039 without her, and I lay my head to rest. All I feel is 197 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:22,559 empty. As when I get up with the sun. Nothing matters now that 198 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:30,400 she's gone. Every sun rise and set, every chord that I fret, 199 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:40,720 it doesn't matter. It's all a wayst without her. When I laid down 200 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:55,200 to sleep and Lord calls me, will I still be without her? Oh 201 00:19:55,319 --> 00:19:57,559 that's beautiful, that's beautiful. I love it. If you're just joining us, 202 00:19:57,720 --> 00:20:03,240 Cameron Sutfin is here with a live in studio on this Saturday morning. 203 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:07,480 It is, of course, Saturday, July thirteen, twenty twenty four. 204 00:20:07,039 --> 00:20:11,200 And are you playing out a lot? Do you play a lot of shows? 205 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:15,640 Yeah? So I'm lucky. So this is my full time job, 206 00:20:15,319 --> 00:20:21,319 and so like this afternoon and sometimes mornings a little in this about ten thirty 207 00:20:21,559 --> 00:20:23,880 I play, I play nursing homes and that's my quote unquote day job. 208 00:20:25,039 --> 00:20:29,000 Yeah, and then I play a lot of folk venues, a lot of 209 00:20:29,039 --> 00:20:32,599 coffee houses and library lawn concerts. I've got a couple of those coming up 210 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:37,680 in August. And you know, Farmers' Market's really any community event type thing 211 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:42,000 where they want, you know, classic country and folk music. Yeah. 212 00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:47,000 Yeah. How long were you in Nashville when you lived down there? Three 213 00:20:47,079 --> 00:20:49,759 years? Three years? Yeah? Years? What brought you back? There's 214 00:20:49,799 --> 00:20:53,880 no I wasn't making any money. Yeah. It's tough, right because it's 215 00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:57,960 you know, you're surrounded by all this great talent, but you're surrounded by 216 00:20:57,960 --> 00:21:00,720 all this great talent kind of a double edged sword in Nashville, right, 217 00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:04,359 Yeah. And so my roommate was a guy who played on the EP that 218 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:10,079 I made named Ashton Lee, and he taught me a lot, and he 219 00:21:10,319 --> 00:21:15,519 moved out to Colorado, and then the following year I moved back up to 220 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:17,839 New Hampshire. You know, I moved back to New England. I'm from 221 00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:22,920 Connecticut originally. Oh, okay, okay, yeah, Because you know, 222 00:21:23,079 --> 00:21:29,880 it's a it's a hard scene. The rent is insanely expensive, because Nashville 223 00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:33,720 is it's a booming city, and I do a lot better in New England. 224 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:37,440 Yeah, in Nashville. So I'm quite happy here, Yeah, no 225 00:21:37,559 --> 00:21:38,920 doubt. But I bet you wouldn't trade the experience, right, because I'm 226 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:41,920 sure you learned a ton. Oh, I learned a ton. I got 227 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:42,880 to make it out, you know, I got to make three songs CD 228 00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:45,680 down there, and that was really nice. And I learned how to go 229 00:21:45,839 --> 00:21:49,759 into a studio. Yeah. So the second time I did it here, 230 00:21:49,839 --> 00:21:55,720 I wasn't as intimidated because I knew what I was getting into, right, 231 00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:57,960 right, that makes sense, That makes sense. Did you have mentors in 232 00:21:59,039 --> 00:22:00,200 Nashville? Did you have peop who kind of took you under their wings? 233 00:22:00,279 --> 00:22:04,319 I mean the main guy, And I just met him because I needed, 234 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:07,720 you know, I needed a roommate. Was my roommate, Ashton Lee, 235 00:22:07,559 --> 00:22:12,599 and he's my age and he went to school for music and he knew way 236 00:22:12,759 --> 00:22:17,240 more than I did. Yeah, and he really helped me. And then 237 00:22:17,279 --> 00:22:22,720 I had this woman I met at a writer's round who was who was, 238 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:25,960 you know, significantly old than me, had been writing Nashville for about, 239 00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:29,359 I think at the time seven years, and her name was deb Ziem's and 240 00:22:29,599 --> 00:22:33,680 she helped me learn how to lay a song out on a page and how 241 00:22:33,759 --> 00:22:38,440 to write, and we did a couple of co writes and that really helped. 242 00:22:38,759 --> 00:22:42,279 Yeah, excellent. How did you get into playing at nursing homes? 243 00:22:45,559 --> 00:22:51,599 So I started playing in a church folk group. It was Holy Family Church 244 00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:53,799 at the time in Nfield, Connecticut, my hometown, and there were three 245 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:57,319 nursing homes in the town. And every Christmas one of the guitar players with 246 00:22:57,400 --> 00:23:04,440 the Lions Club would have us go play. And I asked somebody, I 247 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:07,200 said, hey, could I just play here because I was like thirteen and 248 00:23:07,319 --> 00:23:11,119 one at any gig and said, yeah, you can play. And then 249 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:14,839 I found out that they pay you for it. Yeah, And I was 250 00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:18,400 like, oh, oh, it doesn't just have to be volunteers, like, 251 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:22,480 yeah, we'll give you some money. Yeah, and it just you 252 00:23:22,599 --> 00:23:26,720 know, and then I started calling more up and then I figured out, 253 00:23:26,799 --> 00:23:30,880 well, I can go make a living at it and you know, not 254 00:23:30,079 --> 00:23:33,200 have to get quote unquote a real job. Yeah, that's fantastic. Just 255 00:23:33,319 --> 00:23:37,000 go play a bunch of shows and then at night you can do all the 256 00:23:37,079 --> 00:23:41,599 folk type venues. Yep, that's fantastic. There's a lot of musicians. 257 00:23:41,599 --> 00:23:45,920 There's a guy who met playing the Biggie I played there a couple of years 258 00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:49,759 of CONNECTU building gun named Sean Taylor who's out of Connecticut, and we were 259 00:23:49,839 --> 00:23:55,519 playing, you know, late afternoon, and we discovered we did the same 260 00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:59,039 so we were doing the same thing. He's like, oh, yeah, 261 00:23:59,079 --> 00:24:00,519 I was doing that the other day and now I'm here, you know, 262 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:04,640 doing you know, twelve to two and I was doing two to four after 263 00:24:04,759 --> 00:24:07,759 him, and yeah, oh wowsgover. We did the same type of thing. 264 00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:11,000 That's awesome. Uh, you want to play another one? Yeah, 265 00:24:11,039 --> 00:24:15,440 we'll do one off of the We'll do one off the Nashville one. Oh 266 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:18,240 cool? This this this one, So this song called Drive and I put 267 00:24:18,319 --> 00:24:22,799 this out so seven years ago this uh, the Nashville EP came out called 268 00:24:22,799 --> 00:24:29,079 Heartbreaktown, and it was my fiance's suggestion. I'll give Millicent all the credit 269 00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:33,319 for this. She heard the songs and I told her that I was going 270 00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:36,680 to put out this new ten track and she said, well, be a 271 00:24:36,839 --> 00:24:40,960 shame if you know, because they had like no streams. Oh yeah, 272 00:24:41,079 --> 00:24:41,759 And she said, well, you know, be a shame if if you 273 00:24:41,839 --> 00:24:45,039 know the good songs, should do something with one of them. And so 274 00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:48,559 she said, you know, should make a video, and so I made 275 00:24:48,599 --> 00:24:52,200 a lyric video to this song Drive, and I had someone in La uh 276 00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:56,599 make it you know for me, and it was lyrics and uh tour pictures 277 00:24:56,640 --> 00:25:00,000 of all the tours I'd done with friends and camping. We camped all across 278 00:25:00,039 --> 00:25:06,759 the country with a couple friends. And it now has eleven thousand views on 279 00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:10,640 YouTube, which is my first, my first first video to have over ten 280 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:15,759 thousand views. I was quite grateful to Milicent, my fiance, for making 281 00:25:15,839 --> 00:25:19,680 that suggestion, cause it worked. So yeah, it's called Drive. It's 282 00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:23,480 about driving around the country. I've been to now thirty two states in d 283 00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:27,680 C. No kidding. Wow. The only one I flew to was California. 284 00:25:29,599 --> 00:25:32,039 That was last year to go to music festival with my brother. So 285 00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:36,519 we both flew in and then flew out. Oh okay, I didn't. 286 00:25:36,519 --> 00:25:37,079 So it was like, oh, you're gonna drive. I said, no, 287 00:25:38,039 --> 00:25:45,119 that's a hike. I was playing the Merymack Public Library a few years 288 00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:49,200 ago and I played this song and this woman bought the CD and she said 289 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:52,559 she was doing a cross country trip and she was going to listen to it 290 00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:53,960 the entire time. And I said, well, it's only three minutes, 291 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:59,519 so that might might want to throw in other songs, right, that's going 292 00:25:59,559 --> 00:26:02,720 to be a that's gonna be able to repeat for a lot. Yeah, 293 00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:06,160 I think she was going to either Nevada or Arizona. She said she's driving 294 00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:26,359 out. Okay, so it's called drive here, TRYI van drive. Don't 295 00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:33,359 you ever sleep counting down the exit signs like promises you can't keep, Like 296 00:26:33,599 --> 00:26:41,359 promises you can't keep. Try evan drive. Watch night turn into day. 297 00:26:42,039 --> 00:26:47,920 As long as you keep moving, you won't feel the pain. No, 298 00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:56,279 you won't feel the pain further long. There's a new place to go. 299 00:26:57,279 --> 00:27:03,599 You burn through your line life, watch it go up being smoke, But 300 00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:15,039 there's always a new roads. You just shrive handdrivan tron, triving round than 301 00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:22,880 New York City town like a desperado. Y'll never settled down. You'll never 302 00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:33,039 settled down. You sing your songs, hit your guitar, burn nor fens 303 00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:38,279 of the candle like you don't care if you fall, like you don't care 304 00:27:40,279 --> 00:27:48,039 if fall further lot, there's a new place to go. You burn through 305 00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:56,680 your life, watch it go up being smoke, But there's always a new 306 00:27:56,960 --> 00:28:19,400 roads. You just shrive hand try Evan tron further lot. There's a new 307 00:28:19,759 --> 00:28:25,920 place to go, and you've burned through your life. W't you go up 308 00:28:26,039 --> 00:28:33,160 in smoke? But there's always eight new roads. You just try pantry, 309 00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:42,599 Evan trot, try Evan drop. Don't you have sleep counting down the exit 310 00:28:42,839 --> 00:28:52,400 signs like promises you can't keep. Like promises you can't keep. Like promises 311 00:28:53,440 --> 00:29:00,799 you can't keep. I like it, Thank you, I like it. 312 00:29:00,119 --> 00:29:07,279 Cameron Sutfin is here with us, alive in studio here and uh sounding sounding 313 00:29:07,359 --> 00:29:11,440 great? And yeah, I can see where I can see where someone that 314 00:29:11,759 --> 00:29:14,119 is a I can see where someone would think that that was a good driving 315 00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:15,960 song. I can, I can. I can kind of picture it. 316 00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:18,640 But like you said, you know, not necessarily listening to it over and 317 00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:22,559 over and over. But that's I did even want to calculate it all the 318 00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:26,240 times you have to repete to get from here to Midwest? Now, how 319 00:29:26,279 --> 00:29:30,440 did you how did you wind up working with Rocky Horse? Like I said, 320 00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:33,319 that's a name that comes up a lot on the show and a very 321 00:29:33,359 --> 00:29:37,559 popular studio. How did you connect? It's Brian right, yes, Brian, 322 00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:40,160 yes, Brian Uh? I forget his last name? Now? I 323 00:29:40,279 --> 00:29:42,039 know him too, and I'm blanking. I know a lot of Brian's I'm 324 00:29:42,079 --> 00:29:45,160 blanking on too. It's on the back of the album. That's all right, 325 00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:48,880 Brian from Rocky Horse. How did you connect with him? I ended 326 00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:52,359 up, you know, googling studios in uh in New Hampshire and it's about 327 00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:56,279 twenty minutes from where I live. And they had you know, samples in 328 00:29:56,319 --> 00:30:00,119 their website. And when I was making it, I was playing with Mary 329 00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:03,880 Hastings. When when we were playing with the duo, we're playing market Days 330 00:30:04,599 --> 00:30:10,559 and the guy's running sound. We're in this band called Club Soda and they 331 00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:15,200 their female singer was having a hip surgery and they said to Mary, they 332 00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:21,799 said, we're doing this gig in Maine. Can you fill in on a 333 00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:23,160 couple of songs? And then they said to me, oh, could you 334 00:30:23,319 --> 00:30:26,680 play two on some songs? And we were in front of those twenty one 335 00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:32,000 outside I think it was they said, just under a thousand people. It's 336 00:30:32,039 --> 00:30:34,519 really nice of them. And as we're getting set up in sound checking, 337 00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:38,519 I mentioned I was making an album and they said, oh, where, 338 00:30:38,599 --> 00:30:41,039 and I said Rocking Corse. They said, oh, my gosh, we've 339 00:30:41,119 --> 00:30:45,319 been there. They're great, and they really are great guys. So I 340 00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:48,920 didn't know, you know, the reputation. I just heard the tracks they 341 00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:51,359 were doing and he said, oh, this sounds great, I'll go there. 342 00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:52,759 Oh it's Cooms, right, Brian Coom. Yes, right, I 343 00:30:52,799 --> 00:30:56,160 knew it would come to me eventually. They were great. They were great. 344 00:30:56,359 --> 00:30:57,599 Yeah, yeah, fantastic. Yeah, I've been to that studio. 345 00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:03,279 It's it's very impressive. Are you going to uh now, do you have 346 00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:07,039 more? I don't know how long has this album been out? Is this 347 00:31:07,359 --> 00:31:10,559 relative June fourth? June and fourth? So this is brand news, brand 348 00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:12,559 new, ye June fourth, So you're probably not even thinking about the next 349 00:31:12,599 --> 00:31:15,160 one yet, or maybe you are. I don't know. I've got I've 350 00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:18,759 got I've got a handful of songs. Yeah, yeah, that I could. 351 00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:22,920 You know that I could put out you probably you strike me as someone 352 00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:25,599 who probably writes a lot. You write a lot of Yeah. Yeah, 353 00:31:25,839 --> 00:31:30,440 yeah, I just wrote last month. I wrote two and so I don't 354 00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:33,400 have those memorized yet because I'm promoting a new album. Yeah you know, 355 00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:37,200 I said, well, i've got these two I've got you know, like, 356 00:31:37,279 --> 00:31:37,880 well, got those two? I got three over here? I said, 357 00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:42,119 Okay, that's half a record. Yeah. Yeah, when you're working 358 00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:47,759 with Brian, because a lot of people have described this experience to me, 359 00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:51,319 does he become I mean obviously he's you know, he's engineering, he's recording 360 00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:53,759 you. But does he also become sort of a de facto producer because I 361 00:31:53,839 --> 00:31:56,920 know he's got a lot of ideas he does. Yeah, he does. 362 00:31:57,119 --> 00:32:05,240 And that was really apparent when so I did my guitar and vocals, and 363 00:32:05,279 --> 00:32:07,440 then I went in, I redid some vocals, a couple of tracks, 364 00:32:07,039 --> 00:32:12,200 and then when when Mary Hastings was in the studio, she sings on four 365 00:32:12,279 --> 00:32:15,240 of the tracks, and yeah, he was very much you know, saying 366 00:32:15,359 --> 00:32:19,680 try this here and try that there, and and then he you know, 367 00:32:19,839 --> 00:32:22,039 cut it together and okay, you know that sounds good over here, and 368 00:32:22,039 --> 00:32:25,200 we'll move it around and yeah, yeah, then we've got, you know, 369 00:32:25,319 --> 00:32:28,960 a good track. Doesn't surprise me. He's known for being kind of 370 00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:30,400 a wizard. He can you know, he's got a lot of ideas and 371 00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:36,079 oh yeah, he's very very creative guy himself. Yeah. Absolutely, you 372 00:32:36,119 --> 00:32:38,079 want to play another one? Yeah, well, doud, this is this 373 00:32:38,319 --> 00:32:44,000 is one of so I had a friend of mine suggests, so there's when 374 00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:46,160 I told him I was making a record and he I told him I was 375 00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:49,519 having you know, backing vocals and fiddle, and he said, you should 376 00:32:49,559 --> 00:32:53,799 probably have one or two tracks because I play solo so much that are sparse 377 00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:57,359 and so this one's foolish game. So this is one of the two. 378 00:32:57,599 --> 00:32:59,960 Oh, I have to tell you, this is one of my favorites. 379 00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:01,880 I was listening to the whole thing last night. This much. I appreciate 380 00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:05,400 that this is one of my favorites. This one, this one really really 381 00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:07,200 kind of hit me in a certain way. Yeah. Thanks. I wrote 382 00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:14,440 it about sort of running away from relationships. Yeah, that's when I was 383 00:33:14,559 --> 00:33:20,680 much younger. Yes, yes, I was much younger. And you know, 384 00:33:21,119 --> 00:33:24,359 twenty year old me was not smart. A twenty year old anybody isn't 385 00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:39,480 smart. Don't feel bad, all right, Cameron sutthan live. He just 386 00:33:39,599 --> 00:33:49,160 see a friend fly into the sun only to get burned in the end. 387 00:33:52,880 --> 00:34:00,240 You study, so just lack of chain, but there aint no shape even 388 00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:12,400 lying in the bed your main Can you fight the urge to run? Would 389 00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:20,039 you make it further? If you stay? Can you lie by my side 390 00:34:21,159 --> 00:34:31,519 for one more day? When you learn the loves fulish game maybe you're right. 391 00:34:34,159 --> 00:34:38,639 I put my heart on a shelf so high no one can tear it 392 00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:50,760 down, because I remember a lie I was told time will ease your pain 393 00:34:50,920 --> 00:35:02,159 and lie and your loan. Can you fight anything urge to run? Would 394 00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:12,039 you make it further if you stayed? Can you lie by my side for 395 00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:22,920 one more day? When you learn the loves Foolish Game? You hear the 396 00:35:22,159 --> 00:35:30,239 sound of a slimming door and you know you've heard it in your past before. 397 00:35:34,599 --> 00:35:40,079 Will you shooting me now like a cannon barn? Will I see your 398 00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:50,440 face when the night turns down? Can you fight the urge to run? 399 00:35:52,880 --> 00:36:00,719 Would you make it further if you stay? Can you live by my side? 400 00:36:02,159 --> 00:36:13,599 One Monday? When you learn loves a foolish game? When you learn 401 00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:27,079 loves a foolish Game? Where you learn loves a foolish game? Very nice? 402 00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:30,519 Cameron Sutfinn live in studio with us this morning. Yeah, I really 403 00:36:30,679 --> 00:36:34,480 like that song. Thanks, I appreciate that a lot. Absolutely, Absolutely, 404 00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:37,840 we should uh for those just joining us, we should plug. So 405 00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:40,000 you've got you've got one more live show before the wedding. Yep, that's 406 00:36:40,039 --> 00:36:45,400 the Sandown Concert Series next Tuesday, and that's in Sandown, New Hampshire. 407 00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:50,239 Now what do you now Sanddown? That is? Is that your Keene? 408 00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:55,360 That's that's yeah. Okay. Someone was posting on a Facebook form that they 409 00:36:55,400 --> 00:37:00,280 wanted musicians for this concert series. Yeah, and my message you know, 410 00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:04,320 I just sent a private message to the people booking it and with you know, 411 00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:07,119 a track from the album and just my name and my bio. And 412 00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:09,599 they said, yeah, you know, every Tuesday, and gave me a 413 00:37:09,679 --> 00:37:14,559 list of availability. Oh excellent, excellent. So is that something they do 414 00:37:14,639 --> 00:37:16,840 throughout the summer every time? Yeah, yeah, that's so they have the 415 00:37:17,199 --> 00:37:22,280 so it's on Tuesdays and they have a farmer's market on Tuesdays with the musician 416 00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:25,280 and then that shuts down and then they have their concert series at night. 417 00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:30,159 Oh very cool, awesome, awesome And I've never heard of it before too 418 00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:34,280 this year and I was I can't wait to play it. Excellent. By 419 00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:37,400 the way, I can confirm a new fan for you, Hope the Rapper, 420 00:37:37,039 --> 00:37:40,599 who, of course we open the Today's show with this brand new single, 421 00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:44,920 Heavenly Father, because we're doing ten weeks of new Hope the Rapper singles 422 00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:47,599 world radio premieeres and he messaged me and was complimenting you. Oh, thank 423 00:37:47,639 --> 00:37:51,440 you. I appreciate that. Says you sound really good. So and if 424 00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:53,559 you missed Heavenly Father, the new single from Hope the Rapper, we'll play 425 00:37:53,599 --> 00:37:58,079 that again in a bit on the show as well. So but try to 426 00:37:58,119 --> 00:38:00,320 hit that. I try to hit that every hour with the New with the 427 00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:04,960 World radio premieres here on Matt connorton Unleashed. Have these studio tracks? Have 428 00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:08,920 these been playing on the radio before? So some of them have. Yeah. 429 00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:13,320 So I was on the show just where they all came out, called 430 00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:15,400 the Folk Revival. That's at a Wooster Okay, So, yep, that's 431 00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:19,519 a Nick Nobles show, so yeah, he he played a couple of them. 432 00:38:19,599 --> 00:38:22,079 I'll have to look that up. That's not a show that I'm familiar 433 00:38:22,119 --> 00:38:24,000 with, but that's that's on. Yeah, that's at a Wooster Okay, 434 00:38:24,079 --> 00:38:27,760 Okay, interesting all right, very cool, Very cool. By the way, 435 00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:30,280 So when you play out, do you ever is it always just you 436 00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:32,880 solo? Or do you ever have other musicians to join you? It's it's 437 00:38:34,079 --> 00:38:37,199 pretty much now it's always me solo. So I played in a duo with 438 00:38:38,039 --> 00:38:43,280 my friend Mary Hastings also played and do it with my friend Mary proto that 439 00:38:43,519 --> 00:38:49,559 that's many more years ago. I do have a the bass player actually at 440 00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:54,559 Saint John Jugon Church in the folk group. He told me to message in 441 00:38:54,639 --> 00:38:57,960 the tracks and he said, if you ever played locally, I'll play. 442 00:38:58,039 --> 00:39:00,840 So we might do something, you know, after after I'm married. Yeah, 443 00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:05,159 and I'll have him backing me. But he doesn't want to travel too 444 00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:08,079 far. He's like just local Connecticut, you know. Yeah, but it's 445 00:39:08,199 --> 00:39:13,360 mainly me. One of my favorite singer songwriters, Guy Clark, who said, 446 00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:15,840 you know, you can make a living if you can play solo because 447 00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:21,360 there's very little overhead exactly. So it's yeah, it's mainly been just me, 448 00:39:21,599 --> 00:39:22,920 but you know that might change. I might have a you know, 449 00:39:23,079 --> 00:39:27,800 backing musician or two. Sure, sure come along with me. But there 450 00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:30,119 is there are advantages of course, you know, practically and logistically to be 451 00:39:30,519 --> 00:39:34,159 a solo act. You know, I myself, I'm a musician, but 452 00:39:34,199 --> 00:39:37,039 I've only ever played in bands, so I know that. You know, 453 00:39:37,119 --> 00:39:40,920 with bands, it's always there's the challenges of working around even just for rehearsals, 454 00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:44,880 you know, working around everyone's schedules, and then when you're trying to 455 00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:46,719 book shows, Okay, you got to find out is everybody available to do 456 00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:50,320 it? And this and that. So when it's just you and a guitar, 457 00:39:50,599 --> 00:39:52,800 you know you can. You know, that part's pretty easy in that 458 00:39:53,199 --> 00:40:00,199 in Nashville because there's you know, so many bands and so my So I'll 459 00:40:00,199 --> 00:40:04,039 give the example my roommate, Ashton Lee. So when he would book a 460 00:40:04,119 --> 00:40:07,239 show with his band, he had a guitar player, bass drummer, he 461 00:40:07,519 --> 00:40:12,039 and he would sing and play guitar as well. And if the drummer couldn't 462 00:40:12,079 --> 00:40:15,159 make it, because oh I've got another gig. Yeah, he'd start calling 463 00:40:15,199 --> 00:40:21,400 around and then he'd send the new drummer for that night the set list, 464 00:40:21,599 --> 00:40:23,559 no kidding, and go here you know, here's here's the covers, here's 465 00:40:23,559 --> 00:40:29,119 the originals. Listen to the track be ready to go, and you're expected 466 00:40:29,199 --> 00:40:32,800 to just go, no kidding. Same thing for bass player guitar. You 467 00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:37,719 know, here's the charts, here's the covers, here's the originals. Listen 468 00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:39,679 to him, and this is the set list for the two or three hour 469 00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:44,079 show. I'll be damned, no kidding. Wow, I suppose if there's 470 00:40:44,079 --> 00:40:46,559 a city where you know you could you can pull that kind of system off. 471 00:40:46,639 --> 00:40:50,760 It's Nashville, right, I mean maybe they do that other places too. 472 00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:55,639 But they found a they were playing tourist spot lower Broadway, and they'd 473 00:40:55,719 --> 00:41:00,719 got done and then this guy from a different honky tunk over. He says, 474 00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:05,320 can you guys come play another three hours because our band, just the 475 00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:08,039 band there just they can't make it. Something happened yeah, and I said, 476 00:41:08,079 --> 00:41:12,039 well we can, but our bass player can't. He's got to go 477 00:41:12,159 --> 00:41:15,800 play over there. So they ran around, found a bass player and went, 478 00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:19,920 here's the set. Wow. And they removed the originals because the bass 479 00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:22,360 player had never heard, so they just said, here's the set and we'll 480 00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:24,000 do the substitute of these covers. Can you do it? And he said, 481 00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:30,320 think so, that's wild, that's incredible. And they did another three 482 00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:34,360 hours and he said yeah, he said it went okay, bass player knew 483 00:41:34,559 --> 00:41:37,400 ninety percent of you know, it's the same country covers. Yeah, they 484 00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:39,239 do ninety percent of the set, and there may be one song he's like, 485 00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:42,239 oh, I don't know that one. They just tell them what key 486 00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:45,440 it's in. Yeah, okay, this key feels like that, and the 487 00:41:45,519 --> 00:41:47,440 drummer counts it off in a way. They go, that's amazing. But 488 00:41:47,599 --> 00:41:52,920 so you've really got to have your chops though in that kind of a situation, 489 00:41:52,079 --> 00:41:55,679 right, because if you're in a scenario, or if a scenario might 490 00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:59,440 arise, I should say, where you're going to be called upon. You 491 00:41:59,519 --> 00:42:00,800 know, you got to either know these songs or you got to learn them 492 00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:05,360 really fast, like you've you've really got to be on your game. Oh 493 00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:08,280 yeah, I've seen I. You know, I premierently went down there to 494 00:42:08,559 --> 00:42:13,000 song right, So I was not you know, I was not playing in 495 00:42:13,159 --> 00:42:15,559 you know, a ton of bands and doing Lower Broadway much at all. 496 00:42:15,639 --> 00:42:19,079 But you know I went down there do the writers' rounds and try the song 497 00:42:19,199 --> 00:42:24,679 right. But yees, this session players there are incredible as to as to 498 00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:29,920 what they can do on the fly. Yeah. Yeah, that's if you 499 00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:31,199 want a guitar solo. You said, well, there's a guitar solo right 500 00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:35,159 there. They'll play you three guitar solos. Go, okay, pick one, 501 00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:37,199 yeah, and it'll be in one, take one, two, three, 502 00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:40,480 okay, pick one, yep, yep, that's amazing, and it's 503 00:42:40,519 --> 00:42:44,360 onto the next, on to the next thing. Yeah. Yeah, that's 504 00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:47,239 incredible. That's amazing. Do you want to you want to play one more? 505 00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:52,360 Live one. Yeah, we'll do. Yeah, let's see which one 506 00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:54,400 we can do. Here we do And if you're just joining us, Cameron 507 00:42:54,440 --> 00:43:02,079 Sutton is here with us, live in studio, sounding amazing. Get the 508 00:43:02,119 --> 00:43:07,079 guitar tune first. Yeah. Yeah. What's the name of the album? 509 00:43:07,159 --> 00:43:10,400 By the way, it's called part of Me, Part of Any any story 510 00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:15,280 behind the title. So that's the that's the title track. And I just 511 00:43:16,039 --> 00:43:20,199 I named it that because I felt the album was pretty personal. Yeah, 512 00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:25,880 we'll do so, I said. I play nursing homes. That's my day 513 00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:30,880 job. Yeah, this song, this is the only pandemic song on the 514 00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:34,679 record. I promise I didn't overloaded. I know we're four years out, 515 00:43:35,159 --> 00:43:40,840 but this song came from I was visiting a particular sister living in Kennebunk, 516 00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:45,840 Maine in twenty twenty. They let me inside, which was incredible, and 517 00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:52,280 this woman after the show and by came up to me, I meant eighteen 518 00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:54,800 feet away because the staff wouldn't let anyone go near anybody. Yeah yeah, 519 00:43:55,599 --> 00:44:00,280 and she said, you know, I understand that there's this virus out there, 520 00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:05,400 but I'm in my eighties and I always just want to see my family 521 00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:07,599 and I don't care because honestly, how long do I have to live? 522 00:44:07,679 --> 00:44:13,239 And there's no end to this? And I went home that night thinking about 523 00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:16,960 it, and I wrote this song from her perspective and everyone there because there 524 00:44:19,039 --> 00:44:24,039 was absolutely no end in sight. And in twenty twenty one, when everything 525 00:44:24,119 --> 00:44:28,280 starts to open up, those nursing homes were dead last to open up. 526 00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:30,360 Yep, oh yeah, and people didn't. They're like, it's back to 527 00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:38,320 normal. I'm like, what, there's this one population that they won't let 528 00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:44,480 do much still and even in gosh, it was just last year, some 529 00:44:44,599 --> 00:44:46,679 of them said no more masking in nursing homes. Yeah, oh yeah, 530 00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:51,719 yeah, they were pretty Yeah, they waited, They waited for a long 531 00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:54,960 time and navigating that. And I knew a lot of people that were working 532 00:44:55,079 --> 00:44:59,239 in, you know, in those places that ended up, you know, 533 00:44:59,559 --> 00:45:01,880 moving on to other jobs because yeah, and that was never mind the residents 534 00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:06,159 living, that was just the employees that just said, I've had enough with 535 00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:08,840 healthcare. I'm going to go. I've got a new career. So this 536 00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:13,199 is my you know, this is the last time you'll be seeing me. 537 00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:16,199 I knew a lot of activities directors that just was was that stressful for you? 538 00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:19,119 By the way, I didn't it because until you brought this up, 539 00:45:19,119 --> 00:45:21,360 it didn't even occur to me, like during the you know, at the 540 00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:23,760 height of the pandemic, playing these nursing homes because in a lot of these 541 00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:27,440 nursing homes, like you know, once once COVID got in there, it 542 00:45:27,599 --> 00:45:30,559 just you know, obviously it spread like wildfire, because that's the most vulnerable 543 00:45:30,639 --> 00:45:34,760 among us, you know, eighty year old people. So the first show 544 00:45:36,039 --> 00:45:38,079 was I'll remember to day for it was April twenty ninth, was the first 545 00:45:38,119 --> 00:45:44,079 show back, and we did something outside in Yeah. So those started happening, 546 00:45:44,119 --> 00:45:45,639 and then I did a ton of shows over zoom and I pre recorded 547 00:45:45,679 --> 00:45:52,840 stuff and oh okay, and then Marry my friend and I we we made 548 00:45:52,079 --> 00:45:55,840 because we couldn't do Christmas shows, so we made Christmas DVDs. Yeah. 549 00:45:55,960 --> 00:46:00,960 I paid my rent in Christmas DVD sales and I would so we recorded, 550 00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:04,079 burned them, and I'd go down a post office every day a five or 551 00:46:04,159 --> 00:46:09,159 ten of them stacked going to Massachusetts, New Hampshire, Nashville. I'd want 552 00:46:09,239 --> 00:46:13,559 in Wyoming that didn't have the technology but wanted one, you know, to 553 00:46:13,679 --> 00:46:15,800 do a virtual show. And so I paid my rent that December and DVD 554 00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:20,280 sails. Interesting. Yeah, so I made it work. Yes, yes, 555 00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:22,679 it was scary for a bit, but then it you know, the 556 00:46:22,039 --> 00:46:25,960 you know, the zoom shows came out and it was okay, and then 557 00:46:27,199 --> 00:46:29,280 you know, it was well, okay, I can. I can pay 558 00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:30,320 all my bills and you know, if this is the way they want it 559 00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:35,800 forever, I can pay my bills. Once the public shows, you know, 560 00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:40,159 open up more, you know I'll do those. Yeah. Yes, 561 00:46:40,280 --> 00:47:04,840 it's called from a distance from the dicetan. That's how it's been for six 562 00:47:05,119 --> 00:47:15,800 months. Now knows when their sins can hold my son, my grandkids. 563 00:47:16,199 --> 00:47:24,519 All I get is a window over, is it? They told me if 564 00:47:24,599 --> 00:47:37,840 I'm hugging them, how mad get sicking die. But right now I'll give 565 00:47:38,079 --> 00:47:52,320 my life to hold them one more time. Don't know how I am going 566 00:47:52,440 --> 00:48:01,840 to make it through. This is lone so like I never knew. They 567 00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:08,639 can't tell me, you know, I can kiss my son. They just 568 00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:22,519 tell me to be strong. It gets long leger every day I don't see 569 00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:37,679 anyone's face, and old man risking my love to old my family one more 570 00:48:37,960 --> 00:49:12,880 time from adstans. That's allienspan for a year. Now no ones win. 571 00:49:13,159 --> 00:49:40,679 This sends hand hold Mass, Margarinekids Mass supposed to live Black Things very nice. 572 00:49:42,199 --> 00:49:45,320 Cameron sut Finn live in studio with us, beautiful, beautiful, Thank 573 00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:47,960 you so much. Hey Cameron, before we run out of time, please 574 00:49:49,159 --> 00:49:52,320 let everyone know how they can find you online. Where's the best places to 575 00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:55,199 go to keep up with everything that you're doing. Get your music, check 576 00:49:55,239 --> 00:50:00,480 out your live dates. Yep. So it's Cameron sutf and music on Facebook 577 00:50:00,559 --> 00:50:05,440 and Instagram and the days are posted, the July days are posted there. 578 00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:09,920 We'll have the August dates up soon. And then Cameron setfin on Spotify and 579 00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:15,280 iTunes. And for the spelling impaired of course, s U T F I'm 580 00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:19,800 sorry, no, yes, okay, I'm spelling impaired. S U t 581 00:50:20,119 --> 00:50:23,039 p h I N correct yep, okay. Then once you have that, 582 00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:28,320 you type that into Google you can find everything about me. Yes, there 583 00:50:28,360 --> 00:50:30,920 you go, there you go. Yeah, it's not a not a particularly 584 00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:34,000 common last name. So no. Once once you have that spelling down, 585 00:50:34,119 --> 00:50:37,199 that's it. It's it's all there. Yeah, yeah, exactly, And 586 00:50:37,559 --> 00:50:42,480 and congratulations again on the on the nuptials. Thank you. Yep. We're 587 00:50:43,119 --> 00:50:45,840 excited, we're less than a week away. So that's exciting. Well, 588 00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:50,519 we're gonna close the We're gonna close out the hour with one more studio track 589 00:50:50,639 --> 00:50:54,159 from Cameron. This is called what Makes It Great? Any anything we should 590 00:50:54,199 --> 00:50:58,280 know about this before we before we play it? No? So, so 591 00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:01,480 I wrote it, so it all the way back in I was twenty seventeen, 592 00:51:02,039 --> 00:51:07,159 and everybody in twenty sixteen. There were a lot of musicians running protest 593 00:51:07,239 --> 00:51:10,440 songs with the line we don't need to be made great. And I gave 594 00:51:10,559 --> 00:51:15,840 myself a challenge to use that line, but to not be specific, because 595 00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:20,880 Bob Dylan, when he wrote protest songs, was not specific. Anyone could 596 00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:23,559 use them for anything. That's true, you know. The time blowing in 597 00:51:23,639 --> 00:51:29,400 the wind was not specific times they are changing, was not specific as to 598 00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:31,920 what the senators or congressmen were for or against. It was just general, 599 00:51:32,119 --> 00:51:37,840 Yeah, you're right. And so so I gave myself that challenge, Actually, 600 00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:39,519 can I write a song with that phrase in it and not make it 601 00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:44,400 specific? Yeah? And it was about old car I used to own that 602 00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:46,679 got up to two hundred and ninety five thousand miles and it got trading for 603 00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:50,440 it. Oh my god, and the car out there just hit over two 604 00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:54,320 hundred thousand miles and it's still running. I've been very, very lucky with 605 00:51:54,440 --> 00:51:59,400 cars. What kind of car is I'm curious now? So the car out 606 00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:01,039 there is a niece on Versa. Okay, and then the car and the 607 00:52:01,159 --> 00:52:05,960 song was a twenty Twelveday Sonata, no kidding. Wow? All right, 608 00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:08,280 well, very good. So we will close with this. This is called 609 00:52:08,320 --> 00:52:12,320 what makes It Great? The Great Cameron Sutton, and we'll have to have 610 00:52:12,440 --> 00:52:15,559 you back again. Thank you so much. This was really wonderful, and 611 00:52:15,119 --> 00:52:19,280 check this out and if you are listening live on Saturday, there's plenty more 612 00:52:19,320 --> 00:52:27,599 to come. But what makes it great? Cameron Sutton? I've got this 613 00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:36,039 car twenty twelve Hyunday bumps, missing headlines, ound, but it runs the 614 00:52:36,159 --> 00:52:45,400 same. The windshields cracked, bun, It's still drives. It's not what 615 00:52:45,679 --> 00:52:55,719 you see that makes it shine, Bunny. It used on Broadway almost a 616 00:52:57,039 --> 00:53:06,440 year going to the day. It's traveled fifty thousand miles sin so then it's 617 00:53:06,639 --> 00:53:16,880 ready traveled them again. You don't need that flashing shine. You just need 618 00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:28,480 something to get you buy heap the details, you crawl men things. It's 619 00:53:28,599 --> 00:53:36,039 what sudden need to make said great. Some men are rich, and they'll 620 00:53:36,119 --> 00:53:45,079 let you know when on this leaves put on show. But I know things 621 00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:57,400 man keep inside late at night they turned out lights. You don't need that 622 00:53:57,679 --> 00:54:08,039 flashing shine. You just need something too gety. By keep detis you crawlman 623 00:54:08,599 --> 00:54:16,880 flames. It's what Sunday need to makes it grade. It ain't fast, 624 00:54:17,960 --> 00:54:28,000 it's rusty, though it doesn't shine, it doesn't look new. I don't 625 00:54:28,159 --> 00:54:37,519 need something fresh off the blot. I'll stick with what I got. You 626 00:54:37,679 --> 00:54:49,559 don't need that flashing shine. You just need something too gety. By keep 627 00:54:49,840 --> 00:54:58,800 deting, you crawlm in flames. It's what Sunday need. 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