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Well. He then turned to I'm
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and actu're standing against women's rights.
He is at that stage working for legalization

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of abortion. I said, mister
Mandila, you are questioning the christianity of

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people who over forty years ago legalize
the partet. I'll tell you, mister

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Mandella, it won't be forty years
from now people question your humanity for legalizing

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abortion. You're replacing a partet with
abortion. An abortion is worth. Abortion

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does not just restrict a baby's right
as to where it can live, or

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take it or put it on a
separate voter's roll, or limit where it

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can swim or which cinemas it can
go to. Abortion takes where the baby's

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right to live, it even before
it's taken its first breath outside the room.

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You're advocating discrimination of basis of age. You set you replacing discrimination a

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basive race with discrimination a base of
age. And I said, the worst

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departet is that which separates a baby
from its mother, from its life support

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and at a critical stage and kills
it. Mister Mandela, what you are

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advocating is worse than what you have
replaced and he was a bit more unsettled.

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Now. This was Thursday, Monday
morning, knock on the door.

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Two senior representaers of the Southern Revenue
Service, which is our crevent of your

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irs, and they started a intensive
seven year audit. They went back six

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year as a carolin for seven year. So we had a thirteen year audit.

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Myself, my wife personally, and
every ministry we were involved with personally,

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the books, a Christian action,
frontline pressure. We were all audited

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and it was so intense. They
were demanding millions from us after the first

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few months and in back taxas.
Joining us now is doctor Peter Hammond.

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He has an amazing background. He's
been involved in a lot of things all

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over Africa as a missionary, but
especially in South Africa where he lives and

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he began as well. He's been
doing this for over thirty eight years.

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And maybe this is an older biobiography
that I've got. It might be longer

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than this. Now, Pioneering Missionary
is now forty two. Okay, there

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you go. Pioneered missionary outreaches including
into war zones of Mozambique, Angola and

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Sudan. He often traveled off road
by motorbike. Peter has traveled hundreds of

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thousands of kilometers to deliver Bibles to
persecute Christians in Africa and Eastern Europe.

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And we're going to talk to him
today a little bit about the missionary stuff.

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But we're going to begin with his
personal experiences with Nelson Mandela. But

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let me just read the rest of
this to you. His missionary activities.

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He's been ambushed, He's come under
aerial and artillery bombardments. He's been stabbed,

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shot at, beaten by mobs,
arrested and imprisoned. He's flown far

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behind enemy lines to the Nuba Mountains
in central Sudan with tons of Bibles books

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Edison's relief aid. He walked through
the war devastated Nuba mountains showing the Jesus

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film in Arabic. And you know
what that means. He was in a

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Muslim area, proclaiming the Gospel,
training pastors and evading enemy patrols. I

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tell you, Peter, thank you
for joining us. It looks kind of

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like twenty first century Paul, except
that you got a motorbike that Apostle Paul

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never had. Thank you for joining
us. I want to begin with Nelson

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Mandela because it's kind of interesting.
I think in this country and around the

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world, we have people who idolized
Mandela. We have Clint Eastwood, a

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libertarian, who did a movie about
him. More recently, we had Wayne

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Allen Root, who's a big Trump
supporter. He said he was the one

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who put the lyrics up for the
Chosen One, this new song that came

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out, and he said, Trump
is like Jesus, He's like Moses,

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and he's like Mendela, and it's
like, what in the world let's talking

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about her? And so you know, he's It's uh, it is strange

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to see that combination of people,
and I think it is truly idolatry,

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but it is. It is amazing
that he would hold a conservative, self

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professing conservative, would hold Mandela in
such high esteem that he would put him

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there with Jesus and Moses. Why
you met Mandela, tell us a little

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bit about your impressions of him.
Yes, So, Nelsonman is a very

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charismatic person. He's very affable,
he's a pretty good public speaking. He

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really gets people comfortable around him.
So I can see why some people have

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been a bit charmed by him.
He is a very effective politician in terms

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of being able to kiss babies and
press flesh and shake hands and put his

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own around people, and of course, most famously putting on a Springbook rugby

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jersey at the World Cups when South
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ninety five. That was probably the
most astute, brilliant thing he ever did

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in his political career. And you
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be associated with the winners of a
World Cup, especially when rugby is more

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than the national sport, And so
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heart of the Afrikaans and most of
the white people. And when Mandela took

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that shirt on and put on the
cap of the Springbrook rugby players, he

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won a lot of support. And
this is what Clint Eastwood immortalized in his

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film, even though it was a
very dishonest film. I did a review

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which was on a website of the
Invictors film. The Invictors film is actually

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an Antichrist film. Invictus is a
antichrist secular, humorous atheist poem to whatever

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it matches, not how straight the
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scroll, to whatever gods are declared, I am the Master on my faith

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out of the captain of my soul. Now that is the poem of Invictus,

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and that permra cited several times over
in the film with dramatic music behind

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by the Nelson Mandela character, which
is played by Morgan Freeman, who actually

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had played God in a couple of
different Hollywood films beforehand, no doubt preparing

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for the role of playing Nelson Mandila. So our dilatry is the word.

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And interestingly enough, the winning rugby
team, the Springbrok rugby team in nineteen

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ninety five of the World Cup soccer
was containing a number of very key evangelical

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born again Christians and the captain of
the team, which is played by the

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Hollywood star, he gave all the
glory to Jesus Christ. Yet in the

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film they have this man swearing sleeping
with his girlfriend the night before the match,

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which his now wife said never happened
and which you know, totally fictional,

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and the man never swore in the
match and things like that, and

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then they have him at the air
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God for winning the match. And
as they said, that's not what we

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prayed for. We prayed whether we
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got uneasy and we thank God for
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Whether we won or not was not
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in ease to thank God just for
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of playing in the match. And
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all lost and so front felf.
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who's the team captain? He gave
the glory to christ and Clint Eastwards.

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Film gives all the glory to Nelson
Mandela. Can you think of any national

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sport in history where the credits for
winning a matress given to the head of

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states? I mean, does the
British Queen or Prime minis to get the

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glory when the British team wins,
which hasn't been for many years? And

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admits, does the American government get
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match? And so on? For
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do you blame the government? And
you know, what about the team's captain,

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what about the manager, what about
the coach? None of that comes

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into it. Just Nelson Mandela won
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had no chance, which isn't true. Interestingly enough, not that I'm a

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major rugby person, but we all
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The favorites were not the New Zealanders
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the Australians out of the World Cup
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course upsets the whole thing that the
premise of in Victor's film by Clint Easter

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was that the Sullivan team was hopeless, had no chance, and only reason

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they were in the matches because they
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have to adhere to the same stance, which is nonsense, and so they

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knocked out the favorites the Australians early
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nowhere being helpless, and that Nelson
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amazing speeches and coaching of the team
captain. I must say it's a well

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made film. Unlike Long Walk to
Freedom, which is just total mindless propaganda.

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Clint Easter crafted a good piece of
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It just as it played very loose
for the facts. Yeah, and it

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never quite as sound from spaying Nelson, Manila was in this self for thirty

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years, which is rubbish. He
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He was a prisoner for twenty six
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any parts of that time. He
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fact, his last prison accommodation was
in a waters home with a swimming pool

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and all kinds of things from fax
machines at full screen TV's big kinds of

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privileges with cooked meals all the time
he was in luxury. That called it

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five star prison where he was at
the end. But also they made out

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that this Robin Island was such a
terrible island. It's nothing like the French

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Devil's Island. Robin Island's actually a
paradise. I've been there. It's a

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beautiful paradise island. I'm surprised they
haven't opened up for tourism yet because it

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would be an ideal place to put
five star hotels and so on for tourists.

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When to come. The whole of
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pouring rain, and Robinland can be
sitting in the sunshine. Well, they

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can make it a shrine to Mandela
at the same time, but then people

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might realize how nice it was.
Yes, well, they've already rigged the

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whole evidence, because when people come
to do the pilgrimage and Nelson Manida sell

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and burn incense and light a candle
like Bill Clinton did and Henry Clinton so

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on, they've all made their trick
and the pilgrimage to Manila cell. They've

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taken up the bed, they took
out the desk, they took out his

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chair, they took out the bookshelf, and they put just a mattress on

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the floor and a bucket in the
corner. And you don't see the bookshelves

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that are in the pictures of when
he is there. You don't see the

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desk or the chair, you don't
see the bed. It's just dishonest to

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say this is how Mandila was locked
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didn't tell you that he had free
access to the island all day like all

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the prisoners. He could walk anywhere
in this island during the day. They

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just set to me in a cells
at night when a sunset, and that

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puts a whole different perspective on it. I've been in prison in a different

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places in African I must say,
if I had to be locked up in

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a prison, choose robb Around as
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I've seen. And I've been to
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I've been inmate for some So the
way it's been depicted in the film is

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so dishonest. And they never tell
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except for opposition to a partect,
which is nonsense. There are many people

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are posing apart eight who never ended
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for blowing up people, incinerating people, murdering people, for terrorism, for

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revolution, for subversion, for sedition. He was arrested for sabotage and planning

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a revolution. He was not locked
up for opposing a part eight. There

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were whole political parties and people who
dedicate their lives to finding a partect,

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like Bishop Desmond too too, who
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So the film's premise is also false. And you know, shame on Clint

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Easterod who we like for many other
reasons, but on this point he really

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adopted this idolatrous few of Mandila's as
this poor innocence. You know, he's

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almost like an Alexander Sultzanitzen character here. Yeah, and Reveland's almost like the

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Kuleig Archipelago. Not that they would
ever make a film on Sultz and the

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Kuligo, but that's just the way
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Well, let's talk a little bit
about it was the Marxism that you

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were concerned about. It was the
Marxism and the terrorism, which is why

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he was in prison. But they
made it about apartheid. And you know,

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so when we when we look at
this, I find what I find

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interesting is how, and this happens
in America too, if you have some

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famous charismatic figure, they don't care. Nobody cares about the policies. The

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policy is a shuff shuffle to the
back, and all becomes about the man,

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which is kind of you know what
we're seeing people refer to politicians right

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now. Everybody's in a civil war
over Trump. They love him where they

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hate him, and so it's about
him being the chosen one or whatever.

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So it's this person that they either
demonize or turn into some kind of godlike

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figure. And I think that is
the real common thread between a Marxist from

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South Africa and what we're saying happening
in politics today. Talk a little bit

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about the why you opposed him.
You're not opposed to you're not in support

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of apartheid, but you're opposed to
Marxism. Correct, that is correct,

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And in fact, Mick Nelson,
Mandela and just back in nineteen ninety six,

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I've just marked tens of thousands of
people to parliament, the biggest demonstration

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they ever seen in our city of
Cape Ton. Now Selifk has got three

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capitals. We have a legislative capital
which is Cape Toon where we have our

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parliament. We have an executive capital
which is Pratoria where we have the union

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buildings for the Prisons office. And
we have a judicial capital which is Bloomfontein

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in the sense of the country where
we have our Supreme Court. So Slifka's

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three capitals, and Cape Toun is
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It was the first settlement in all
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the country. So in Cape Ton, our mission headquarters is not far from

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Parliament. And I've led many marches
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and the present one. And so
when Mandela was seeking to paganize this country,

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and by paganisers country, I mean
legalizing blasphemy, prostitution, pornography,

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perversion, all of these things,
and seeking to legalize abortion, although they

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hadn't done that yet. When I
marched this large group of people to Parliament,

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we shut down Cape Ton. Our
people are still gathering at the castle.

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When the front group had arrived at
Polam, solid body of people going

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for kilometers for miles through town,
blocking all traffic as we marched upon to

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protest the paganizer of South Africa.
And our slogan was clont vet or courtsavet,

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which was Afrikaans for constitution must be
based upon God's law clontvet or court

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savet. And so we marched to
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President, had been sent out to
collect our memorandum. And that in itself

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is an interesting story. We don't
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relevant. Cyril was the chairman of
the Constitutional Assembly that was drawing up a

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new constitution and he was pushed out
the door to receive us, and he

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came up looking terrified. His eyes
were wide and you could just see the

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terror on him. And according to
our friends in side Parliament, like Kenneth

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Meshu, he was pushed out the
door because they was afraid they ended come.

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You know, we had thirty thousand
people outside Poland. They thought they

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would be hanging from the the lights, the street lights by the end of

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the day. But of course we're
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But we could have overthrown the government
had we been the kind of thugs

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and revolutionaries that the ANC supporters on. But we didn't break anything, we

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didn't damage anything, We didn't even
leave litter behind. So outcomes Silam Posa

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to receive our memorandum and he sees
my Zulu friend standing next to me,

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Reven fin Of Sabisi, and he
says, brother, can I borrow your

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bible? And fin A Sebisi had
a beautiful leather bible purchased in Phoenix,

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Arizona, by the way, engraved
with his name in gold gold etching on

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the leather cover. Rivern Fina Sabisi. My father, launch Bill Bethman,

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actually gave it to him as a
gift when he visited America. So Silra

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in person doesn't wait for Fino's response, He just grabs his Bible and takes

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it under his arm as he walks
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platform, which was the back of
a truck actually, which was our platform

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for speaking to this huge crowd.
And as Sola Imposer gets the top,

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he lifts up this Bible and says, look, I'm also a Christian.

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I bring my Bible with me to
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American politician he did that. Yeah, I'm sorry, go ahead, that's

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amazing. Now, Sarah Ramafota is
a guy that was, you know,

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the current head of the ANC.
We'll talk about what just happened in politics

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there. But he had he took
over I guess from Mandallah. But he's

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been there for for quite a while. I don't know. There's a secession

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of politic political figures there. But
yeah, we'll talk. We'll be talking

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about him in a moment. Silers
was the man that Mandila pointed to share

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his Constitution Assembly to draft this new
constitution that the shrimes LGBTQ rights, which

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enshrines everything from the rights for blesphemy
and pornography and legalized prostitution and ultimately the

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legalization of abortion. All of that
and ram Persa was the man who paganized

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Suli's constitution and made sure we didn't
have in humble submission to Almighty God,

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which the previous constitutions of self cold
always had so silram Perser, he knows

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how to talk to talk, He
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He was in fact an evangelical Christian
of Pentecostal at university when he was

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studying, and a friend of ours, Kenneth Meshuw, who's a pastor,

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shared a room with him and said, Sila Ramposer knew the gospel he was

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he would act like he's a Christian, although of course he's an apostate now

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being part of the Southern Communist Party
and all the rest of it. So

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Sila Imposer could just lie so fluently, so easily, and he knew that

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we knew he was lying, but
it didn't care because the most of the

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people out there didn't notice, and
he was having the people eating out of

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his hand within minutes. Well,
also after this march to Parliament, we

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had someone come from the President's office
instructing us that the President was summoning us

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to come to cross a secure estate, which is the President's mentioned the house

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that Cecil Rhodes built and he donates
it to the people of the Cape for

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future leaders of the Cape. Will
the Sullivan President's been staying in there since

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nineteen ten. And so Mandela summoned
me to come to his home on the

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thursday we marched in Tuesday. Thursday, I'm summoned to go to the president's

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mansion, Salivka crivent of the White
House. And as a skirits caught here,

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which means the great bond. So
as I arrived and Mandela came into

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the room, he immediately asked,
so, mister Hammond, what were you

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doing in the years of struggle?
Now the struggle is what the comments called

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the revolution that fights and so on. So I said, I was fighting

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people like you, sir, And
he smiled, he laughed, he slapped

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at me. He stood up and
he came over and he shook my hand

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and he said, I'm so glad
to meet an honest white man. Said

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all the whites have met so far
told me they always supported me and never

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supported the National Party. I wondered
how the National Party stayed in power for

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forty years when all the whites actually
supported me. And I said, well,

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mister Mandela, make no mistake,
I was not fighting for a parteight.

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I was fighting against communism and I
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Mandela said, but a parte it
is a great evil in the history of

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the world. And I said,
I cannot agree with that. Mister President.

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That price must go to your friends. Your support is the communists.

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They have left one hundred and sixty
million corpses in the twentieth century so far,

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just since nineteen seventeen. And that's
according to the Black Book of Communism,

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written by ex communists using their own
documents themselves, documenting over one hundred

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million people killed in the commist countries
according to own records in Eastern Europe.

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Of course, we don't yet have
the records for Red China, but we

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know that that could add about another
sixty eight million more of what mart Tongue

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added. And we're not talking about
enemies foreigners killed in war. We talk

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about civilians killed in peacetime by their
own governments. Yes, of one hundred

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and sixty million corpses littering in the
twentieth century from secular, humanist, atheist

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government, communist governments they have been
the greatest mass murders in the history of

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the world. Well as I said
that, mister Mandila, I was still

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silent. So I went on no
Stadgic catalog, also the millions killed in

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by pol Pot's Khmer Rouge in Cambodia
and of course Vietnam. All the way

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went through to Ethiopia and Mengistu,
who was his friend and ally who was

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hiding in South Afka to escape from
the genocide prosecutions against him from the International

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Criminal Court. And then I went
on to Fidel Castro, his best friend,

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who he had just welcomed South Afrik
and had addressed a joint sitting of

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our Congress, well both the Senate
and the Lower House of Assembly, and

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gave him the biggest awards Suk's got
to give, and mentioned the millions killed

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under Fidoral Castro in the island Paradise
he turned into hell hole that millions of

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people are seeking to flee on rafts
and shock infested waters. And when I

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finished all this, Nelson Manila leaned
back, stayed in the ceiling and went

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on a trip down memory lane.
When I was a prisoner of the boys

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on robin Arland he said, they
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or sunglasses. My eyes are very
sensitive. Now, interestingly, when you

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go to on your pilgrimage to Robin
Island and to Nelson Mandela, sell it

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but a huge picture. I'm going
to floor to ceiling picture of Nelson Mandila

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in long trousers and wearing sunglasses,
leaning on his shovel. That's his garden

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patch. So I presume that meant
at some stage, because certainly he's pictured

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wearing long trousers and wearing sunglasses at
some stage there, so that couldn't have

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been for that. But I didn't
want to argue this, so I said,

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well, mister Mandila, my eyes
are also very sensitive, and I

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can appreciate how I'm comfortable it would
be to be deprived of sunglasses in the

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sun outside a game. Just reminding
him that I do know that he spent

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a lot of time outside the cell
because they're allowed the full rain of the

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place outside me had his own virtual
garden and things like that. But I

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said, but, mister Mandela,
I'm sure you'll agree with me that that

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hardly compares with the atrocities documented by
Alexander Saltan and the archipelago. Well,

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he then turned to I'm surprised you're
trying to take away woman's rights and actually

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standing against women's rights. He is
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I said, mister Mandela, you
are questioning the christianity of people who

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over forty years ago legalize the partet. I'll tell you, mister Mandela,

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it won't be forty years from now
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You're replacing a parteth with abortion.
An abortion is worth. Abortion does not

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just restrict a baby's right as to
where it can live, or take it

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or put it on a separate voter's
roll, or limit where it can swim,

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or which cinemas it can go to. Abortion takes where the baby's right

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to live, it even before it's
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You're advocating discrimination of basis of age. You set you replacing discrimination a

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basive race with discrimination a base of
age. And I said, the worst

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departet is that which separates a baby
from its mother, from its life support

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and at a critical stage and kills
it. Mister Mandela, what you are

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advocating is worse than what you have
replaced, and he was a bit more

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unsettled. And you know, we
basically had a tennis match backwards and for

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it's batting boards about these definishes.
And as the arm finished, the clock

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soruld have struck the time. He
stood up and he said, you may

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take your photographs now. Well,
I didn't mean to be rude, but

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honestly, I've not brought a camera. I've not thought about the pictures.

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And I said no, thank you, mister President, and he stopped and

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his jaw dropped and he looked absolutely
shocked. Maybe we were the first people

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that met with him. He didn't
want the pictures taken to him. But

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what will I do with a picture
of myself with Nelson Mandela. So we

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said, but we would like to
pray for you, and he said,

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no, no, it's very private, and he was dismissive, and I

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pretended I hadn't heard. I put
my hand and on his shoulder, and

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Reverend Zunz Evenster, who is with
me, put his hand on the other

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shoulder, and I prayed the Lord
God may not give mister Mandila one moment's

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piece until he does what he knows
is right. And just in the next

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legislation to protect preborn babies from the
violence and injustice of abortion. Now I

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prayed, Lord, I pray that
you will work on mister Mendila's heart,

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that he may bother me and surrender
to you as King of kings and Lord

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of lords. And I gave him
a book written by doctor James Kendy that

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I thought he'd be appropriate for someone
who's a secular humorist and atheist, which

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showed a lot of God's hand in
history. And I know all Marxist interests

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in history. And mister Mandela said, mister Hammond, my door is always

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open to you. I'm always responsive
to the concerns of your constituency, which

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in the way I would have put
it, but anyway, very nice,

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very charming. And now this was
Thursday, Monday morning. Knock on the

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door, two senior representers of the
South Gon Revenue Service, which is our

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crevent of your irs, and they
started a intensive seven year audit. They

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went back six years, a carryin
for seven year. So we'd had a

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thirteen year audit, myself, my
wife personally, and every ministry we were

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involved with, Christally, the books, a Christian action, frontline pressure.

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We were all audited, and it
was so intense. They were demanding millions

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from us after the first few months
and in back taxes. But we're a

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tax exempt organization. In fact,
we have got it confirmed from our revenue

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service. We are tax immune.
We are a tax exempt. We are

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a nonprofit public benefit organization, a
Christian mission. We don't owe taxes.

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But I had to hire a lawyer
and an accountant to get us out of

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trouble, keep us out of jail, and to prevent us bankrupting our little

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mission. And we had our accountant
saying, you're a small operation. Senior

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investors, the Southgan revenue its normally
go for massive companies. Your budget is

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not even in their petticash level.
And you know, we were a very

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small mission then. We're not that
big now, But we were minuscule back

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in nineteen nineties when Mandela started his
campaign against us in your house that he's

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so charming to our faces, but
he sets his dogs on us. Yes,

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And at the end, by the
way of a thirteen year audit,

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the senior invest here has concluded that
we owed them not a penny. Wow.

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My wife had to fork out one
thousand rand for some things. We

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had to get avery davids from family, grandparents and friends for gifts given to

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cover kidney surgery for our child,
our child being born with kidney failure,

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and you know, even gifts from
grandparents and so needed every Davidson. My

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wife couldn't quite get everything signed off
as she needed to, and so she

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ended up paying one thousand round.
But that's hardly justifies a seven year audit

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by senior investor as the revenue services, the ministries and myself earned them nothing.

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And that was our experience of Nelson
Mandela. Wow, charming face,

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but it is amazing. It is
amazing how the tactics are the same worldwide.

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And that's one of the things I'll
just say for our American audience here

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when we look at this army of
IRS agents eighty billion dollars to grow the

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IRS nine times bigger than it is
right now. You want to talk about

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law fair, Well, that's what's
coming for each and every one of us.

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That's what this is really truly about. That's always been the way they

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have politically politically used that. And
so let me ask you. You mentioned

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Cyril Ramafosa and he went from I
guess waving a Bible at the meeting there

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to leading chance a few years ago
about kill the boar, killed the white

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Man. Where is the South African
Communist Party today? I know they just

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the A and C just lost election
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Well, an interesting thing about that, the Southern Communist Party is part of

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what they call the Tripartist Alliance the
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CASATU, the Congress of Trade Unions
are united together in one and the ANC

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is basically a front for the Southern
Communist Party. Every president of the ANC,

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every president of South of since not
known for has been a senior member

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of the Southern Communist Party. Now, if you go onto the Southern Communist

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Party website, as I've done,
you will first of all find an intriguing

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thing that they're selling Lenin baseball caps, Lenin T shirts and mugs and sign

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visa cards accepted, and so that
seems also a capitalist to me. But

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the next thing that's intriguing is,
and I've seen this for years, the

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Southern Communist Party is not placing any
candidates in upcoming elections, but advisors all

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cadres to vote for the ANC candidates. What does that tell you Southern Communist

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body has never bothered to put up
a candidate because they controllers anc By the

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way, just for amusement, I
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What did I see? They're also
selling basebook caps, linen t shirts,

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linen monks and pens and so on, and visa cards accepted and all that.

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But the Commuist Party you say is
not putting up a candidate in upcoming

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elections. Now, I've been seen
this since the days of Clinton, by

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the way, and Obama, and
certainly right now the Commis Party you say

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is not putting up a candidate nix
elections, but advises all condris to vote

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for the Democratic Party candidate. What
does it tell you about the Democratic Party

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of today? They should be the
ones with the red tie. Actually,

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yeah, that's one of the greatest
cups they ever pulled out there to get

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conservatives to say we're red, We're
red states, and all the rest of

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the stuff. I said, And
I've heard this from so many people lived

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under communism. I talked to Shivan
Fleet. She said, I can't believe

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you. Red has always been the
color of communism. I can't believe that

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they got people in America to embrace
that. And it's because we don't know

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history. It's because we listened to
the media, because we accept whatever labels

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they invent. It's amazing, yes, sadly so, now I know my

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history pretty well. I love history, and I've been a mystery for foot

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each years, especially to persecute the
churches. I've worked behind nine curtains throughout

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the whole of Eastern Europe, during
the dark days when we had to smuggle

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Bibles behind the nine curtain of secret
meetings, and it's been very clear to

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me that communism not only has always
read, but they've infiltrated the West to

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such extent many people don't rectnize.
I don't know how many people realize that

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Abraham Lincoln, who's an idol in
America. I would say Abraham Lincoln is

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to the United States what Mandila is
to sell. I've got what Vlna Malinin

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is to the Soviet Union, an
idol. And to walk them all as

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I've done, and to get to
this massive temple and to see this phenomenal,

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outsized idol of Abraham Lincoln sitting in
a Roman throne. It's not a

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throne it's a Roman throne, a
Caesar's tough throne. And of the words

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in the marble behind in this temple, as in the hearts of a people

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for whom he saved, the Union
is enshrined the memory of Abraham Lincoln.

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Forever words effect forever saved, you
know, heart, These are all religious

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terms. And it's the fastest symbol
that he's resting his hands on. And

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this, this Lincoln Memorial was built
in nineteen thitties, when the fastest symbol

435
00:32:29.920 --> 00:32:32.359
was a symbol of Mussolini's fastest running
Italy, and on every one of the

436
00:32:32.400 --> 00:32:39.240
Italian Air Force planes the same symbol, the different sticks bound together with the

437
00:32:39.279 --> 00:32:44.759
axe in the middle, and Evelobet's
bound and the nos and so on.

438
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It's exactly the same as the fastest
party symbol. And that's what Abraham Lincoln's

439
00:32:50.240 --> 00:32:53.799
idol is resting his hands on in
the temple in the mall. I never

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00:32:53.880 --> 00:32:57.640
noticed that, I know, the
fascista, I know what you're talking about.

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00:32:57.759 --> 00:33:01.279
I didn't. I never noticed that. Certainly, there is an amazing

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idolatry of politicians, just as we
idolize entertainers. And I think that's one

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of the key things that we need
to be aware of. When we talk

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about idolatry of politicians, it is
about people say, wow, I'm not

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00:33:15.559 --> 00:33:16.720
making him a god. I'm saying
that he's not a god. And yet

446
00:33:16.960 --> 00:33:21.200
everything that you do says that he
is a god, and the way that

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00:33:21.240 --> 00:33:25.039
you treat him well. What's also
interesting is this explains why the Republican Party

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00:33:25.119 --> 00:33:29.200
have the red tie and Democrats of
the Blue tie, although right now they

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should swap, as you said,
but Abraham Lincoln was a correspondent with col

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Mox. Cole Mox was so impressed
with what Abraham Lincoln was doing. And

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you know about the forty eights.
The forty eights were eighteen forty eight.

452
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Is that revolutionaries? Of course,
eighteen forty eighth, when the Marxist Manifesto

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00:33:46.359 --> 00:33:52.200
came up, the communist revolutionists tore
every capital in Europe. Part many people

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00:33:52.240 --> 00:33:57.000
died, and as a result,
many of the ringleaders were captured and hung

455
00:33:57.519 --> 00:34:00.839
kilotine or shots, as the case
may be around Europe. Many of the

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survivors fled across the Atlantic to North
America and became the founders of the Republican

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00:34:07.519 --> 00:34:10.880
Party. The Republican Party start out
as a radical revolutionary Marxist type operation,

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which is why they have the Red
Tie. And many of the worst atrosties

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00:34:15.079 --> 00:34:19.679
commits against the Confederate, especially the
landowners, were done by forty eight is

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00:34:20.119 --> 00:34:24.320
European Marxists who were in the Union
Army, none of whom were prosecuted or

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00:34:24.360 --> 00:34:30.039
fired or demoted for their war crimes. And there were terrible war crimes burning

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00:34:30.079 --> 00:34:37.480
of churches, raping of women,
burning of farmstead's hideous a trustees done.

463
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The forty eighters were only promoted,
and they were the backbone of the Union

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Army of Abraham Lincoln. And it
just explains why Abraham Lincoln is so popular

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in Cuba. For example, Yeah, let me interject here. I like

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to read alternate I used to have
more time to read, but I used

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00:34:54.719 --> 00:34:59.400
to like to read alternative history.
And Harry Turtle Dove does some of the

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00:34:59.400 --> 00:35:02.639
best alternate of history and a book
they did. How few remain uh.

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He ends the Civil War very early
on. One little thing changes and that

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changes the outcome of the Civil War, and so most of the characters survive.

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Abraham Lincoln is driven out of office
in his alternative history in shame,

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but then he returns a few years
later as the head of the Socialist Party.

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He knew his history, he really
did, and so do you.

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That's that's really, it's truly amazing. In you see, they've got the

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avenue Abraham Lincoln. That's it.
Why would you name an avenue in Havana

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after a capitalist like Abraham Lincoln?
And the Cuban said, no, he's

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00:35:38.199 --> 00:35:42.239
not a capitalist, he's a cor
mate, he's one of us. And

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maybe you've seen a picture of Phidol
Kestra visiting the Lincoln memorials, standing looking

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very much in reverence, staring up
at this massive idol of Lincoln. And

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that's one of the famous pictures from
Time Life magazine of Phidol Kestra Penger's respects

481
00:35:57.920 --> 00:36:00.320
at the Lincoln memorial But they've got
an Abraham lincol in high school in Cuba.

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They like Abraham Lincoln. We might
recall that the communists actually had an

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00:36:05.199 --> 00:36:08.800
Abraham Lincoln battalion or legion in the
Spanish Civil War. Fight's going to sell

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00:36:08.840 --> 00:36:14.960
the communists against the nationalists. And
as my main point here is that there's

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a lot of similarity between Lincoln and
Lenin, I mean Abraham, Sorry,

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Vladimalin also saved the Union, the
Soviet Union fighting against the South, many

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of the Ukrainians, the Georgians and
so on. Servitguni Alsos of Georgia,

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00:36:28.679 --> 00:36:34.000
and Vladimirlin was also, like Abraham
Lincoln, a complete failure in life as

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a lawyer and everything else, who
had never achieved anything until he became the

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dictator of the state. And then
his main achievement is that he saved the

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00:36:40.960 --> 00:36:45.280
Union in a civil war, brutal
civil war in which millions died in the

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case of Soviet Union, only a
few hundred thousand in the cases in United

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Soiths America. But we won't add
all the other lives that died because of

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00:36:52.840 --> 00:36:58.519
the centralized state's abortion and all the
other things and imperial wars overseas. But

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the way how Lincoln is revered in
America in the way how Lenin is revered

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00:37:02.000 --> 00:37:08.800
in Soviet Union, led to George
Grant, an author, giving a sermon

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that you can hear in sermon audio
Lincoln and Lenin. One can just check

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00:37:13.400 --> 00:37:16.239
it up on sermon audio Lincoln and
Lenin. And I think it's given much

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00:37:16.280 --> 00:37:21.159
better about George Grant the similarity between
Lincoln and Lenin, but enough to say,

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I've got books in myself on Lincoln
or by Alis and Lincoln's Marxists,

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00:37:25.000 --> 00:37:29.960
and there's an older book made on
the real Lincoln. So if any listeners

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00:37:30.119 --> 00:37:35.239
viewers want to look into the other
side, I maintain that Mandela is to

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00:37:35.440 --> 00:37:37.800
South Africa what Lincoln is to the
United States, and Martin Luther King,

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00:37:37.960 --> 00:37:43.679
or should I say Michael King is
to the United States an idol what Nazi

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00:37:43.760 --> 00:37:47.639
thing is to the Soviet, to
the communist red Chinese, what Lenin is

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00:37:47.679 --> 00:37:52.599
to the Soviet, and idol what
Churchill is to England. Let me add

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as well, I mean many countries
have the idols, and as Christians,

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we should not be that thrilled to
want to have an idol, because the

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sin most condemned in the Bible is
idolatry, Yes, idolatry, making an

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idol, putting an idol, whether
it's a political idol, a sex idol,

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a pop idol, a rock idol, a Hollywood idol, a sports

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idle, any idol that takes the
place of first thing in our life.

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It should be God and God alone
should be getting all the glory solidio gloria,

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and so we as Christians need to
reject idolatry. Idolatry led every single

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00:38:27.960 --> 00:38:32.280
prophet in the Bible to condemn Judah
and Israel, and God abandoned Jerusalem and

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the Temple to be destroyed, and
all of Israel to be taken off into

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Samaria into Assyrian captivity, all of
Juda to be taken off into Babylonian captivity.

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Because the sin of idology, our
doolatry, destroys nations and civilizations.

519
00:38:46.599 --> 00:38:50.639
Right, we should not play with
idolatry. That's right, and it's you

520
00:38:50.719 --> 00:38:55.719
know, we can It can be
people, most obviously people, and people

521
00:38:55.920 --> 00:39:00.599
say, well, of course Lincoln
is not a god, but they idolize

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them nevertheless. But it can also
in our own lives. It can be

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things like sex, money, and
power. You know, these are the

524
00:39:07.280 --> 00:39:12.159
the also things that can become idols
in our life. Let me ask you,

525
00:39:12.559 --> 00:39:15.599
as we talk about moral principles,
and as you were leading that march

526
00:39:15.679 --> 00:39:22.039
against Mandela, because of the overthrow
of moral principles foundationally in the Constitution,

527
00:39:22.840 --> 00:39:29.320
why is it that Marxists always want
to overthrow moral principles. Rather they always

528
00:39:29.400 --> 00:39:35.880
push abortion and hedonism and all the
rest of this. Well, Christianity is

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00:39:35.920 --> 00:39:40.119
the biggest enemy of communism and atheism, and the principle of communism is atheism.

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00:39:40.239 --> 00:39:45.400
Atheism is the essential foundation for communist
states, and so the biggest fit

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00:39:45.639 --> 00:39:51.440
is Christianity. Notice they don't put
the energy into fighting against things that are

532
00:39:52.079 --> 00:39:54.199
other than Christianity. They're not after
the cults so much. They're not after

533
00:39:54.440 --> 00:40:00.480
false religions. They're after Christianity.
Christianity is the enemy. And so to

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00:40:00.599 --> 00:40:02.880
destroy a country, you've got to
steal their history. And in fact,

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00:40:04.159 --> 00:40:07.079
just to quote Cole Marx, the
old gods must be pulled down so that

536
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we can and all the old statues
must be pulled down to erect new gods.

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We must replace the gods of Christian
Europe with our own gods, which

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is why they make gods of Tzenski
or the founder of the check of which

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later became the KGB. They must
lift up what Trotsky was lifted up for

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00:40:25.199 --> 00:40:28.639
a while, but of course then
he went out of favor, and Berea

541
00:40:28.719 --> 00:40:34.880
also in their statues on top of
but Cole Marx Stalin he got toppled after

542
00:40:34.960 --> 00:40:38.519
he died, and then of course
others since then, and they always need

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to put in their new gods and
I believe the family is the basic building

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00:40:45.800 --> 00:40:47.639
block of Saiudi. So how do
you destroy the family? Well, of

545
00:40:47.719 --> 00:40:53.800
course, if you can get men
to abandon their natural responsibilities to become husbands

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and fathers and providers and protectors and
so on, well, pornography is a

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00:40:59.440 --> 00:41:02.840
good way of distracting men to go
after digital dolls and paper dolls, and

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00:41:02.960 --> 00:41:07.280
to waste their lives, waste the
energy, and to distract them from their

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00:41:07.320 --> 00:41:12.920
highest priority. The most important thing
all of us can do is be straight,

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00:41:13.119 --> 00:41:15.159
get married, and have children,
and raise them in the love and

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00:41:15.280 --> 00:41:21.039
fear of God, and to be
hard working citizens who will contribute to civilization.

552
00:41:21.679 --> 00:41:24.239
And if any of your ancestors had
found to do that, you wouldn't

553
00:41:24.519 --> 00:41:28.719
be alive today. And so for
all of us to get married. But

554
00:41:28.880 --> 00:41:35.519
now what are they doing? Abortion, sterilization, transsexualism, transgenderism, gender

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00:41:35.559 --> 00:41:39.400
fluidity, Let's castrate the young boys, Let's have misseectomies for the young girls,

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00:41:39.559 --> 00:41:45.519
Let's sterilize them effectively, because that
means extinction for that race, and

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00:41:45.679 --> 00:41:50.480
they want to eradicate our Christian heritage. They can see whether it's pornography with

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00:41:50.599 --> 00:41:55.719
its transcendorism with its abortion sterilization,
euthanasia. The whole goal is extermination or

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genocide for those races that have been
traditionally Christian and which have this horrible attitude

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of give me liberty or give me
death, no taxation and our representation.

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Let's get rid of those people.
What we want is a bunch of puppets,

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00:42:09.679 --> 00:42:13.480
you like, play downer hands that
we can use like guinea pigs in

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00:42:13.519 --> 00:42:16.599
our social revolution, who will support
the government. Offer them free bees,

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00:42:16.719 --> 00:42:21.679
offer them all kinds of things.
And if you can bring down the population

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of the traditionally Christian nations and swamp
them with invaders from other countries where you've

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00:42:28.239 --> 00:42:32.400
destroyed their economies and their stability,
terrorize the populations that people are fleeing,

567
00:42:32.719 --> 00:42:37.119
attract them to come to the previously
Christian countries where they can be enticed with

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00:42:37.280 --> 00:42:40.079
lots and lots of free this and
free that, and we'll give you free

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00:42:40.119 --> 00:42:44.440
Wi Fi. We'll give you free
cell phones and put you up in hotels

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00:42:44.480 --> 00:42:46.840
and fire all over the country.
And you can get away with almost anything.

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Even if you want to come here
to be a drug dealer, human

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00:42:50.800 --> 00:42:53.000
trafficker, pimp, whatever, that's
not a problem. You know, come

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00:42:53.280 --> 00:42:58.000
as long as you vote for our
party and our candidacy, you know you

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more than welcome. And so this
is the communist revolutionary tactics. And in

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00:43:02.079 --> 00:43:07.199
fact, I think you've got to
see where this came from. The Communist

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00:43:07.280 --> 00:43:14.079
International Arabian nineteen twenties recognized that Lenin
got lucky, and to quote Antonio Gramsky,

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who was the founder of the Commuist
Party in Italy, he said,

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00:43:16.440 --> 00:43:21.199
we're not likely to get the same
correlation of forces in Western Europe. Europe

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00:43:21.280 --> 00:43:24.440
is too Christian. We'll never be
able to replicate the Russian Revolution, and

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00:43:24.480 --> 00:43:28.480
the rest of Europe we're not likely
to ever get a violent revolution like that.

581
00:43:28.559 --> 00:43:31.519
Again, that was just a unique
correlation of forces. We got super

582
00:43:31.599 --> 00:43:37.039
lucky in Russia, but in the
West. You will only conquer the West

583
00:43:37.079 --> 00:43:39.280
when you can destroy Christianity. We've
got to turn the Christian mind into a

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00:43:39.360 --> 00:43:43.760
non Christian mind, and then into
an anti Christian mind. This will take

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00:43:43.760 --> 00:43:46.440
at least two generations. He said. We must use the five culture carrying

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00:43:46.519 --> 00:43:52.360
institutions to transform the society to act
like what he called cultural termites. The

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00:43:52.480 --> 00:43:59.239
five culture carrying culture transforming institutions of
education, entertainment, news, media,

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00:43:59.519 --> 00:44:04.039
religious institutions, political institutions, and
they spoke about the long march to the

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00:44:04.119 --> 00:44:07.360
institutions of the West. We've got
a rot out the pillars holding up Western

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civilization. And he used the imagery
of a termite eating the woodwork of wooden

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00:44:14.199 --> 00:44:16.440
pillars. Now, you can put
as much whitewash on the outside as you

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00:44:16.599 --> 00:44:21.440
like, but one day the turmites
do their job, the pillars will collapse,

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00:44:21.519 --> 00:44:25.079
and the whole edifice will collapse with
it, and so cultural termite.

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00:44:25.320 --> 00:44:30.159
And this is called the Gramsky strategy. The Frankfurt School of Marxism in Germany

595
00:44:30.320 --> 00:44:35.960
were the ones advocating this, the
Frankfurt School, And when the National Socialist

596
00:44:36.039 --> 00:44:38.639
game control of Germany and they pushed
out these people, they fled and many

597
00:44:38.639 --> 00:44:44.239
of them went to American universities like
Harvard and Columbia, and they started to

598
00:44:44.920 --> 00:44:49.360
eat out the heart of Western Christianity
in America too. Many also went to

599
00:44:49.559 --> 00:44:53.239
Hollywood, and for a time the
Communist Party was only party in town,

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00:44:53.480 --> 00:44:58.880
literally literally the only party in town, and they hijacked Hollywood very early on.

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00:44:59.159 --> 00:45:02.239
And this was a visionist Stalin Staan
said, the cinemas in the West

602
00:45:02.400 --> 00:45:07.519
must become the new temples, the
new outreaching the churches to advance communism,

603
00:45:08.079 --> 00:45:14.400
and for a time they actually succeeded
very well. And then the Hollywood Decency

604
00:45:15.039 --> 00:45:19.639
Code of Conduct came in, which
from nineteen was nineteen thirty six to about

605
00:45:19.679 --> 00:45:23.840
nineteen sixty six kept the basic standard
in Hollywood. But then after the sixties,

606
00:45:24.079 --> 00:45:29.639
the Protestant Film Office closed down because
seventy thousand dollars a year was too

607
00:45:29.719 --> 00:45:32.719
much money to try and influence for
the good Hollywood, and the Catholic League

608
00:45:32.760 --> 00:45:37.920
of Decency also closed down Hollywood and
they were taken over by instead. The

609
00:45:37.079 --> 00:45:42.400
Church of Satan moved in and Hollywood
just went berserk from the late sixties on

610
00:45:42.559 --> 00:45:47.199
Andy Critci, everything evil being promoted, everything good being denigrated, laugh that

611
00:45:47.719 --> 00:45:53.679
the base slandered. Taking God's name
in vain became common, and they popularized

612
00:45:53.880 --> 00:45:59.639
amongst the population that didn't used to
swear, swearing and blesphemy. So even

613
00:45:59.760 --> 00:46:02.760
Chris will use some of these terms
oh my, omg and so on,

614
00:46:02.840 --> 00:46:07.800
which they wouldn't have done before.
And so Hollywood has succeeded in doing a

615
00:46:07.840 --> 00:46:12.199
lot of what commonists need to do. According to Gramsky Strategy, he wrote

616
00:46:12.239 --> 00:46:15.400
the Christian Foundations of Western civilization and
soon the communists will just be able to

617
00:46:15.480 --> 00:46:20.239
move in and take over, which
I think people have just noticed in recent

618
00:46:20.360 --> 00:46:23.440
years how that's actually worked out.
You just have to look at the Obama

619
00:46:23.559 --> 00:46:30.519
and the Biden administration to see how
that's working out now after generations of the

620
00:46:30.559 --> 00:46:34.960
Gramsky strategy and the eroding of Christian
foundations, you can see. This is

621
00:46:35.000 --> 00:46:38.800
why when Mandela came to pound South
Africa, he knew his first priority had

622
00:46:38.840 --> 00:46:44.079
to be to undermine the Christian foundations
of South Africa. South Afka in the

623
00:46:44.159 --> 00:46:45.679
past. Now, I was brought
up in Adisia, which was not that

624
00:46:45.880 --> 00:46:51.400
Christian, but we were fighting communism. And so when I came to Sullefica

625
00:46:51.480 --> 00:46:54.760
nineteen seventy seven, as my country
has been betrayed to communism, I came

626
00:46:54.800 --> 00:47:00.519
into a Sonofka that's radically different from
today. Churches dominated, churches everywhere,

627
00:47:00.960 --> 00:47:06.119
no cinemas open on Sundays, no
shops open on Sundays, Sundays for the

628
00:47:06.199 --> 00:47:12.519
Lord's Day for worship. Blasphemy was
illegal, Pornography was illegal. You'd watch

629
00:47:12.559 --> 00:47:15.280
a form like Dirty Harry and there
was not one bit a smut, not

630
00:47:15.400 --> 00:47:17.840
one sphere word in it. The
sensors would connut every taken of the Lord's

631
00:47:17.920 --> 00:47:22.559
name in vain, every swear word, any nudity, any sex, any

632
00:47:22.960 --> 00:47:27.880
unncessary violence. That church's fans would
be cut out by our senses. And

633
00:47:28.320 --> 00:47:30.840
I must say, as a youngster, I thought, when people are really

634
00:47:30.880 --> 00:47:37.079
angry, their mouth opened, no
words came out because they would cut out

635
00:47:37.119 --> 00:47:40.320
the audio for some of these things. And so it was nice to grow

636
00:47:40.400 --> 00:47:45.280
up like that. Our schools started
barber reading, prayer, hymn singing the

637
00:47:45.440 --> 00:47:47.079
army. The first thing that I
saw going into the south of an army

638
00:47:49.079 --> 00:47:51.920
was the sworder major standing in the
middle of the parade ground as we would

639
00:47:51.920 --> 00:47:54.480
discord from our Bedford trucks. And
what's the first word to hurt from the

640
00:47:54.519 --> 00:47:59.840
sarger major in the army? Anglicans
say, means of God? That just

641
00:48:00.199 --> 00:48:06.239
bretherin and he divided us into denominational
groupings. Around preadgrounding there were tables with

642
00:48:06.400 --> 00:48:09.679
clocks sitting taking down our false number
details and all this because it was for

643
00:48:09.840 --> 00:48:15.920
roll call. Church attenths was not
optional. In the South colomy church attends

644
00:48:15.039 --> 00:48:19.159
was compultory. Now, of course, the chapman service midweek would be done

645
00:48:19.320 --> 00:48:22.679
by your company, and it'd be
row called for that too, but Sunday

646
00:48:22.880 --> 00:48:27.320
services in your national affiliation was compulsory, and they were going to check that

647
00:48:27.440 --> 00:48:30.920
you did that. We were issued
our bibles before we were issued our rifles

648
00:48:30.400 --> 00:48:38.880
and quiet time to enforce the South
Army fifteen minutes in the morning and about

649
00:48:38.920 --> 00:48:43.599
fifteen minutes at night before the pupil
sounded, had to have lights out,

650
00:48:44.079 --> 00:48:47.800
and so the South gen Army entrenched
us. And just to show you the

651
00:48:47.920 --> 00:48:52.360
kind of spirits, how different it
was, performing Della took over. After

652
00:48:52.400 --> 00:48:55.639
they'd called out about seventy denominations,
there were still forming in the middle of

653
00:48:55.719 --> 00:49:00.639
the field and the Southway said well
what are you And we all looked and

654
00:49:00.679 --> 00:49:04.000
thought, well, what could they
be? We've heard it all. And

655
00:49:04.239 --> 00:49:08.800
someone then stood up and said atheist. Sir arch Major's gown and he said

656
00:49:09.119 --> 00:49:15.559
atheists eightyists. Swapper atheist and see
on atheists. You want to be an

657
00:49:15.559 --> 00:49:19.199
atheist, you join the communist This
is a Christian army. Send them to

658
00:49:19.239 --> 00:49:23.400
the Pentecostals. And instead of a
fourteen minute Anglican service, instead of a

659
00:49:23.440 --> 00:49:27.480
one hour Baptist service, they've got
a three hour Pentecostal service. Every Sunday.

660
00:49:28.559 --> 00:49:31.920
That was the old South Africa,
very different from today. At one

661
00:49:32.000 --> 00:49:36.280
point was distressed by some taking the
Lord's name in vain and I went to

662
00:49:36.400 --> 00:49:39.480
the commandant, the Lieutenant Colonel Trudge
of base, and I said, so

663
00:49:40.440 --> 00:49:44.119
is it against the Lord to take
the Lord's name in vain? He said

664
00:49:44.159 --> 00:49:47.119
it certainly, his son. Why
do you ask, oh, men taking

665
00:49:47.199 --> 00:49:51.199
the Lord's name vain in my unit? And I said, sir, I'm

666
00:49:51.239 --> 00:49:54.280
sorry to report you that there aren't, and your non commissioned officers are foremost

667
00:49:54.360 --> 00:49:58.480
in the offense. And he said, leave it with me, son,

668
00:49:58.559 --> 00:50:02.360
I'll deal with this. Saluted did
an about turn left the commandant's office,

669
00:50:02.800 --> 00:50:07.800
and I mean, that's also interesting
that as an enlisted soldier, ruffleman of

670
00:50:07.880 --> 00:50:10.519
no rank, I had the ability
to approach the commander about something like this

671
00:50:10.599 --> 00:50:14.480
and he did act on it.
The very next Friday, Battalian parade,

672
00:50:15.039 --> 00:50:20.639
the commandant or Lieut ten colonel stood
up, after the singing of the national

673
00:50:20.639 --> 00:50:23.960
anthem and raising the plank, and
he said, the Lord Jesus Christ is

674
00:50:24.039 --> 00:50:28.400
the commander in chief of this army. Any man who takes the name of

675
00:50:28.400 --> 00:50:30.239
the Lord Jesus Christ in vain is
a traitor, and I will treat him

676
00:50:30.239 --> 00:50:34.760
as such. It is the Lord
Jesus class that determines whether you live and

677
00:50:34.840 --> 00:50:37.360
when you die. The victory doesn't
go to the strong, but to the

678
00:50:37.480 --> 00:50:42.440
righteous. And if you are taking
the Lord's name in vain, you're undermining

679
00:50:42.639 --> 00:50:45.400
the lives of all the men in
your company and your battalion. And this

680
00:50:45.719 --> 00:50:50.400
is unacceptable. I will crush you
to dust, I will grind you to

681
00:50:50.519 --> 00:50:53.400
powder. Nobody takes the Lord's name
in vain. Well, as we came

682
00:50:53.440 --> 00:50:59.400
off to the parade ground, a
staff sergeant in charge of our particular platoon

683
00:51:00.320 --> 00:51:02.400
started to swear and take the lords
anthings. I don't deeply bleep care what

684
00:51:02.719 --> 00:51:07.159
eddy bleep bleep commandant says about deeply
bleep the Lord Jesus Christ. And I

685
00:51:07.280 --> 00:51:10.599
went and I laid a charge against
that staff sergeant and he got stripped of

686
00:51:10.679 --> 00:51:15.280
his rank. He got drummed down
to the ranks. The commandant was serious,

687
00:51:15.639 --> 00:51:19.280
you don't take the Lord's name in
vain. If one stick of something

688
00:51:19.440 --> 00:51:23.159
considered vaguely pornographic was found in any
bungalow, the entire platoon was sent on

689
00:51:23.239 --> 00:51:27.679
a fuss base, a eightcom of
four killing me to run with poles,

690
00:51:27.760 --> 00:51:34.639
drums, tires, massive tractor tires, you know, running and this would

691
00:51:34.679 --> 00:51:38.679
be a normal punishment for and of
course pass has been canceled people doing anything

692
00:51:38.719 --> 00:51:42.880
immorral which was dealt with. I
don't think you could imagine it happening in

693
00:51:42.920 --> 00:51:45.400
the US arm but that happened in
the Old Side economy. And this is

694
00:51:45.480 --> 00:51:50.000
what Mandela fought against. And by
the way, when Mandela came to power,

695
00:51:50.000 --> 00:51:53.719
there was a very insightful article in
the London Times. London Times says

696
00:51:53.880 --> 00:51:59.239
you must be sympathetic to Paul Nelson
Mandela because what he's dealing with is not

697
00:51:59.360 --> 00:52:02.760
just the legacy puts it. His
real battle is against Calvinism. SOCU is

698
00:52:02.800 --> 00:52:07.679
the most Calvinist performed country on the
planet. And this is what the real

699
00:52:07.760 --> 00:52:10.559
battle of Nelson Mandela is. It's
against Calvinism. That's in London Times in

700
00:52:10.639 --> 00:52:15.320
England, so insightful. And that's
exactly what he did. He started to

701
00:52:15.360 --> 00:52:19.519
wage war against Christianity from the first
day caps power. Wow, that's amazing.

702
00:52:19.599 --> 00:52:22.519
Now, you know we see this
today and you talk about the march

703
00:52:22.559 --> 00:52:27.239
through the institutions and you talk about
tearing down the statues and the monuments to

704
00:52:27.320 --> 00:52:30.320
the past and directing their principles,
their leaders, and that type of thing.

705
00:52:30.559 --> 00:52:34.199
But I think the most telling of
all this is as we're in the

706
00:52:34.239 --> 00:52:37.840
middle of Pride Month here in America, we have a couple of different places,

707
00:52:37.920 --> 00:52:42.599
one of them in the southeast of
the nation, down in Saint Petersburg,

708
00:52:42.639 --> 00:52:45.760
Florida. The other one is up
in Washington State, Spokane, Washington,

709
00:52:46.199 --> 00:52:51.119
where they go in and paint rainbow
murals on the street. And we've

710
00:52:51.199 --> 00:52:55.599
had teenagers in both places who I
guess they are sick of having the LGBT

711
00:52:55.960 --> 00:53:02.000
doctrine rammed down their throat. Left
skid marks in both places, and they

712
00:53:02.039 --> 00:53:06.519
are both they are all three of
them up in Washington and one of them

713
00:53:06.920 --> 00:53:09.480
down in Saint Petersburg. They're all
up for felony charges. They could get

714
00:53:09.519 --> 00:53:14.440
up to ten years. Isn't that
amazing How we are marching through the institutions.

715
00:53:14.440 --> 00:53:16.159
And I think, especially when I
look at what is happening through the

716
00:53:16.280 --> 00:53:22.960
churches right now, there's a massive
capitulation within the churches to LGBT. It's

717
00:53:23.039 --> 00:53:30.239
just you have to be embracing and
inclusive. This idea of inclusivity is just

718
00:53:30.679 --> 00:53:37.480
eating its way through like termites in
the Christian churches here in America. Yes,

719
00:53:37.599 --> 00:53:40.719
I understand that the whole LGBTQ is
a key part of the Marxist strategy.

720
00:53:40.960 --> 00:53:45.280
They found a way to persecute Christians
in Western countries because they've made such

721
00:53:45.320 --> 00:53:50.280
an idol of LGBTQ that our freedom
of speech in the past has gone a

722
00:53:50.360 --> 00:53:52.639
freedom of conscience, of freedom of
religion, freedom of worship is shattered if

723
00:53:52.639 --> 00:53:59.280
it infringes on the LGBTQ community.
That's right, that's right, and jam

724
00:53:59.360 --> 00:54:05.480
on LGBTQ. Plus. The plus
includes peterphilia, and yeah, that's coming

725
00:54:05.920 --> 00:54:08.360
pterophilia, which is the next step. The point is, if you speak

726
00:54:08.679 --> 00:54:13.280
against these scenes because of Christian conviction, you've opened yourself up to persecution.

727
00:54:15.280 --> 00:54:19.920
They can't lock you up in the
average Western country for believing in God and

728
00:54:20.000 --> 00:54:22.960
believing in the Bible, but they
have made it in such way that if

729
00:54:22.000 --> 00:54:25.800
you offend somebody, you could get
locked up. Friends of mine in England

730
00:54:27.119 --> 00:54:31.599
got arrested in Bristol for open air
preaching. Now that's where George Whitfield launched

731
00:54:31.639 --> 00:54:37.400
a great evangelical awaking with open air
preaching in Bristol, and you get people

732
00:54:37.440 --> 00:54:39.239
have gotten arrested in Hyde Park where
you can say anything. I mean,

733
00:54:39.239 --> 00:54:43.159
you could send up there in curse
the Queen when she is alive. And

734
00:54:43.400 --> 00:54:46.119
Hyde Park is a place of free
speech. But if you offend some homer,

735
00:54:46.440 --> 00:54:50.880
some pervert or whatever, then the
police arrest you. And they've been

736
00:54:50.960 --> 00:54:54.480
older people, grayheaded people beaten up
by thugs, and the police stand by

737
00:54:54.599 --> 00:54:58.239
doing nothing, and in the end
they rest the man who was beaten up,

738
00:54:58.320 --> 00:55:00.960
not the ones who assaulted him.
He said, he says some thought

739
00:55:01.039 --> 00:55:06.559
crime that hurt someone's feelings. We've
got legislation and so called the Hate Speech

740
00:55:06.599 --> 00:55:10.519
Bill, where it's not if you
hurt someone, it's if you offend someone.

741
00:55:12.159 --> 00:55:14.880
You may not have intended to offend
a person, but if the other

742
00:55:14.960 --> 00:55:19.960
person feels offended by what you said. I mean, theoretically it could be

743
00:55:20.039 --> 00:55:22.719
as simple as well, you know, biologically there's only truth. Genders or

744
00:55:23.039 --> 00:55:27.599
marriage can only be turn a man
a woman, or Jesus said, I'm

745
00:55:27.639 --> 00:55:29.840
the way the truth in life.
No one comes to father but by me.

746
00:55:30.159 --> 00:55:32.360
Any of those statements might offend someone. The next thing, you can

747
00:55:32.440 --> 00:55:37.639
be guilty of a criminal charge for
approaching what the marble says or stating some

748
00:55:37.239 --> 00:55:42.480
facts of biological science, and this
is where they're going. They start out

749
00:55:42.480 --> 00:55:45.320
saying we want tolerance. Well they
got tolerance, but then they didn't want

750
00:55:45.400 --> 00:55:52.079
a tolerance. They wanted conformity and
approval and applause. So it goes from

751
00:55:52.159 --> 00:55:55.440
tolerance to applause to conformity to you've
got to fund it, and we've got

752
00:55:55.480 --> 00:56:00.519
to be able to room your children
and your grandchildren. And if your object,

753
00:56:00.719 --> 00:56:04.079
we will prosecute you. This is
where it's going. And this is

754
00:56:04.199 --> 00:56:07.719
just a new stick invented by the
Communists as a new way of perscutting Christians,

755
00:56:07.360 --> 00:56:13.000
and Mandela saw this early on.
He entrenched in the Southern constitutional I

756
00:56:13.039 --> 00:56:17.920
should say, you've got celerampositor entrenched
in the constitution the sexual orientation right now,

757
00:56:19.000 --> 00:56:21.880
this has never been any constitution before. We might have a bill,

758
00:56:22.000 --> 00:56:25.920
but in the constitution you're right to
any sexual orientation, which theoretically could be

759
00:56:27.000 --> 00:56:30.320
that a person's sexual orientation is pedophilia. And now for your person that you

760
00:56:30.400 --> 00:56:35.039
could be guilty of infringing on that
man's rights because of the way that phrase

761
00:56:35.159 --> 00:56:38.360
the constitution. So these Marxists are
quite clever, and it's no accident that

762
00:56:38.480 --> 00:56:43.440
many of the Marxist leaders that you
know of our lawyers, I mean we

763
00:56:43.519 --> 00:56:45.719
can stock, we can start with
Lincoln and Lenin, and of course in

764
00:56:45.840 --> 00:56:52.440
South afkl Mandela, Oliver Tambu,
Clinton's Obama's all lawyers. You know what

765
00:56:52.599 --> 00:56:55.320
they say, ninety six percent of
lawyers give the rest a bad name.

766
00:56:55.880 --> 00:57:00.360
But it's amazing how how many Marxists
lawyers. They take the laws and they

767
00:57:00.400 --> 00:57:05.559
twist them in order to advance their
gender. And we need to get back

768
00:57:05.639 --> 00:57:08.360
to the principle that all law must
be based upon God's law, which is

769
00:57:08.519 --> 00:57:15.639
invalid and has no part. You
laid out an interesting presentation of what life

770
00:57:15.800 --> 00:57:20.159
was like before the Communists, what
life was like even in the military.

771
00:57:21.440 --> 00:57:24.280
Give us an idea now that we're
what thirty years on in all of this,

772
00:57:25.559 --> 00:57:30.760
what give us a sense of life
in South Africa? I know that

773
00:57:30.559 --> 00:57:34.920
with Ramafosa out, they're leading cries
of it killed the white man, kill

774
00:57:34.960 --> 00:57:37.480
the boar, and things like that. There's been a lot of talk about

775
00:57:37.559 --> 00:57:40.559
getting up a race war. I
think that's another component of what we see

776
00:57:40.599 --> 00:57:46.079
happening here in America. And then
of course communists are all about seizing property.

777
00:57:46.880 --> 00:57:50.960
Where is all of this at this
point? In time is this and

778
00:57:51.039 --> 00:57:55.960
why did the ANC lose this latest
election? What is changing there? What

779
00:57:57.079 --> 00:58:00.519
I'm astounded is that anybody voted for
them again. You know, if you

780
00:58:00.599 --> 00:58:02.360
make a mistake, we're all human, we will make a mistake. But

781
00:58:02.400 --> 00:58:06.920
if you make the same mistake twice, you're stupid. If you make the

782
00:58:06.920 --> 00:58:08.679
same mistake three, four, five, six, seven times, you know,

783
00:58:09.880 --> 00:58:15.639
you shouldn't be allowed out of the
home without adult supervision. And for

784
00:58:15.760 --> 00:58:17.840
anyone to vote for the n SEE
in a seventh election just boggles the brain

785
00:58:17.920 --> 00:58:22.599
because they have stolen, they've looted. So to give you a sense of

786
00:58:22.760 --> 00:58:27.239
how our country is, I used
to use the personal service a lot.

787
00:58:27.320 --> 00:58:30.880
I mean we'd send out thousands of
unusualers around the world. I could if

788
00:58:30.920 --> 00:58:36.079
I'm going on speaking to I could
send a box of books five kilograms,

789
00:58:36.320 --> 00:58:40.760
could be under five rand. And
I mean right now a letter. One

790
00:58:40.880 --> 00:58:45.679
letter costs five rund. But the
personal service has collapsed. We don't have

791
00:58:45.760 --> 00:58:50.360
a personal service. The South African
Perstal Service, like every state owned enterprise,

792
00:58:50.559 --> 00:58:52.840
has collapsed. We don't have post
offices. Our post office closed.

793
00:58:53.239 --> 00:58:58.159
They've so looted the place. The
South afcan Airways which used to be consistently

794
00:58:58.199 --> 00:59:01.239
in the top ten, sometimes in
the top One of best airlines in the

795
00:59:01.280 --> 00:59:06.840
world doesn't exist anymore. Self Gineaways
totally bankrupt finished. You can go to

796
00:59:06.960 --> 00:59:12.239
self airport, there's no say cubicles
that you know. Don't see a self

797
00:59:12.239 --> 00:59:15.519
Gnaways playing on the runway because they've
bankrupted it. They've looted the place complete

798
00:59:15.519 --> 00:59:19.360
and it's not that they were giving
away free tickets. We paid a lot

799
00:59:19.400 --> 00:59:22.559
for it. And then before you
knew it, they've bankrupted the airways.

800
00:59:22.920 --> 00:59:29.920
Our iscambe, the electricity supply for
the country. Electricity company is so bankrupt

801
00:59:30.079 --> 00:59:35.440
they've lost billions, hundreds of billions
of rams lost, stolen by their leaders.

802
00:59:35.920 --> 00:59:37.960
So we have par failures. So
the average day in South it can

803
00:59:38.039 --> 00:59:43.320
be two, four, six,
even eight hours of par failure. Some

804
00:59:43.480 --> 00:59:46.599
parts of the country can get twelve
hours part failure day scheduled. Now let

805
00:59:46.679 --> 00:59:52.280
me interjecting and say, is this
traditional communist corruption that's destroying the energy infrastructure

806
00:59:52.360 --> 00:59:55.679
or is this also combined with the
green stuff that we see here in America.

807
00:59:57.480 --> 01:00:00.000
It is combined with the green stuff. So to give you an example,

808
01:00:00.039 --> 01:00:06.960
well, the European Union paid a
six billion eurobribe to the ANC government's

809
01:00:07.280 --> 01:00:10.880
six billion, not million billion,
and it was to stop coal production and

810
01:00:12.280 --> 01:00:15.960
to close down a lot of working
coal plants that you're providing energy for millions

811
01:00:16.000 --> 01:00:21.199
of people. They're closed down,
and just to show for that bribe from

812
01:00:21.239 --> 01:00:23.840
the EU. Do you know what's
happened. Our coal is now being shipped

813
01:00:23.840 --> 01:00:28.400
to Europe, to the EU.
So we've got our trains and I've seen

814
01:00:28.440 --> 01:00:32.000
them killometers trains coming in from our
coal mines going to the port cities,

815
01:00:32.079 --> 01:00:36.719
loading onto ships to go to Europe. So the EU has the audacity toab

816
01:00:36.800 --> 01:00:42.320
us close our coal power plants and
then to buy our coal and huge numbers

817
01:00:42.360 --> 01:00:47.519
they need coal because they're not getting
the gas from Russian all of course sending

818
01:00:47.559 --> 01:00:52.199
it to China. They're allowed to
build the dirtiest power plants that they want,

819
01:00:52.239 --> 01:00:55.559
and as many of them. I've
always said that environmentalism is like a

820
01:00:55.679 --> 01:00:59.679
watermelon. It's got a thin ven
air of grain and on the inside is

821
01:00:59.719 --> 01:01:04.119
all xis. It's red. Yes. So you used to get in communism,

822
01:01:04.280 --> 01:01:06.920
used to get the order of lenin. Now you get to order the

823
01:01:07.000 --> 01:01:09.800
watermelon. And I'd say Gorbachev gets
all to the watermelon. Did you notice

824
01:01:09.920 --> 01:01:14.559
when Gorbachev was thrown out in Russia, do you know what he did?

825
01:01:15.320 --> 01:01:19.199
He came over and he took over
the Presidium in San Francisco and opened up

826
01:01:19.199 --> 01:01:22.880
this green institution what they're called the
Green Crosses from exthis and his polyt Bureau

827
01:01:22.920 --> 01:01:27.440
that had been kicked out of Pounder
saviatg moves over lock Stock and Berrel and

828
01:01:27.559 --> 01:01:32.280
moved into running the green movement from
San Francisco under Gorbachev and then Gorbascheff at

829
01:01:32.320 --> 01:01:37.679
the new ten Commanders as they call
it at Rio Rio. What was it

830
01:01:37.840 --> 01:01:42.800
nineteen ninety two? Was it that
the Rio environmental thing? Gorbachev was a

831
01:01:43.000 --> 01:01:45.719
key author of this. So the
Communists moved from running the Soviet Union to

832
01:01:45.840 --> 01:01:50.679
run the green movements in the West. Check it out. It's absolutely saggree.

833
01:01:50.880 --> 01:01:53.320
And now you get the Order of
the Watermelon because the Order of Lenin

834
01:01:53.400 --> 01:01:58.159
people have now moved into green movement
because it's not about green energy, it's

835
01:01:58.159 --> 01:02:04.400
about control. Who pretend to care
about the environment. The people who destroyed

836
01:02:04.480 --> 01:02:07.239
the third largest sea in the world, the ural s Bover irrigating until the

837
01:02:07.519 --> 01:02:12.840
fishing villagers were one hundred kilometers from
the shore because they over irrigated and they

838
01:02:12.960 --> 01:02:20.400
drained the whole uralc The National Geographic
documented this worst environmental disaster done under Soviets

839
01:02:20.440 --> 01:02:24.360
only central planning our Communist party can
cause environmental catastrophes in that level. Could

840
01:02:24.400 --> 01:02:29.800
imagine all the fish dead in the
sea, whole fishing villages bankrupted. What

841
01:02:29.920 --> 01:02:31.719
the Soviets could do, what they
did with the Danube with a massive dam

842
01:02:31.800 --> 01:02:36.360
that put in Hungary. Mean,
it's another story. The Communists have the

843
01:02:36.400 --> 01:02:39.079
worst pollution, they have the worst
everything in terms of wrecking the environment.

844
01:02:39.480 --> 01:02:44.079
And yet some aren't they the ones
that are run the green movements in the

845
01:02:44.159 --> 01:02:49.039
West. So we've seen this in
South Africa. A lot of our communities

846
01:02:49.039 --> 01:02:51.760
are having to buy solar panels and
so on. And where do all the

847
01:02:51.840 --> 01:02:55.119
solar panels and batteries come from?
Red China? So basically bolstering the economy

848
01:02:55.119 --> 01:02:59.880
of Red China with the green charade, and we are destroying our own economy

849
01:02:59.880 --> 01:03:02.519
and were living in blackouts, so
we live in blackouts. This means everybody

850
01:03:02.599 --> 01:03:08.320
in a country needs to have it's
their own generators or solar panels and alternative

851
01:03:08.400 --> 01:03:13.280
source of energy. We call it
bring your own infrastructure. We can't post

852
01:03:13.360 --> 01:03:20.559
letters anymore. We can't post books. One of my ministries was mailing books

853
01:03:20.639 --> 01:03:23.239
to people who ordered online with our
mission. We can't mail the books anymore.

854
01:03:23.519 --> 01:03:29.119
We've got to go to prints undermand
ebooks and we can use career companies.

855
01:03:29.159 --> 01:03:30.840
But that's a lot more expensive,
of course than what the post office

856
01:03:30.920 --> 01:03:35.239
used to be. But that's upsetting
us. Now. Imagine if you're a

857
01:03:35.280 --> 01:03:38.639
restaurant owned You've got food ready and
then a power faily comes in and so

858
01:03:39.199 --> 01:03:42.679
the food's spoiled. You've lost the
customer, you've lost the money, you've

859
01:03:42.679 --> 01:03:45.960
lost the food. So every restaurant
now needs its own generator as well,

860
01:03:46.119 --> 01:03:50.119
and then you've got to buy the
fuel for the generator, and you've got

861
01:03:50.119 --> 01:03:52.800
to have all kinds of backups or
you can't operate. How can you operate

862
01:03:52.880 --> 01:03:59.000
any business in a competitive society unless
you bring your an infrastructure. There's provision

863
01:03:59.119 --> 01:04:02.159
of reliable electricity is the most basic
thing needed in the economy. Yes,

864
01:04:02.639 --> 01:04:05.599
yes, and we're saying that now
in America. The people who of course

865
01:04:05.599 --> 01:04:11.239
they have massive power requirements of the
people who are doing artificial intelligence, and

866
01:04:11.280 --> 01:04:14.400
that's a whole other category. But
the people who are doing that because it's

867
01:04:14.400 --> 01:04:17.360
so power hungry. They understand that
the power grid here in America is being

868
01:04:17.400 --> 01:04:23.039
sabotaged. So they're starting their own
line of power plants to serve themselves.

869
01:04:23.039 --> 01:04:26.880
They're going to provide their own power. That's exactly what you're seeing at a

870
01:04:27.079 --> 01:04:30.960
smaller level. And of course the
people who are in on the plan see

871
01:04:31.000 --> 01:04:35.360
this coming from a long ways off, and so they're talking about nuclear power

872
01:04:35.400 --> 01:04:41.440
plants for their AI computer centers that
are there. Let's talk a little bit

873
01:04:41.480 --> 01:04:45.920
about your work as a missionary.
What is happening in Africa? Mainly after

874
01:04:46.000 --> 01:04:50.719
you get out of South Africa and
I guess in Babwe where the Marxists are.

875
01:04:51.239 --> 01:04:54.840
The rest of Africa is really kind
of under the thumb of Islam,

876
01:04:54.920 --> 01:04:59.639
isn't it all right? Well?
It long controls one third of Africa to

877
01:04:59.719 --> 01:05:03.440
north. About forty percent of population
of Africa are in Muslim majority countries,

878
01:05:03.840 --> 01:05:11.039
and the top seven countries in Africa
are Arabic speaking and Islamic majority Egypt,

879
01:05:11.239 --> 01:05:14.760
Algeria, all those countries, Libyans, on, Malei, Mauritania. These

880
01:05:14.760 --> 01:05:18.800
are Muslim countries. Somalia nineteen nine
percent Muslim, and so on. Central

881
01:05:18.800 --> 01:05:24.239
Africa's got quite a lot of Communist
activity, worst in Zimbobie, but we've

882
01:05:24.280 --> 01:05:29.320
got other Communist healthholds as well,
and that's what started our mission. When

883
01:05:29.360 --> 01:05:31.360
I was in the southkan Army,
I had a barber study groups that met

884
01:05:31.440 --> 01:05:34.880
every night for Bible study in prayer, and we had all our prayer meetings

885
01:05:34.960 --> 01:05:41.960
and prayed away to Operation Ward and
we saw the tremendous threat to us of

886
01:05:42.119 --> 01:05:45.960
communism and terrorism, and so division
came through very clearly. The Communists to

887
01:05:45.960 --> 01:05:49.880
coming to us with hate and with
bombs. Have we ever gone to them

888
01:05:49.920 --> 01:05:54.159
with the Gospel of Christ, with
marbles and with the love of Christ?

889
01:05:54.920 --> 01:05:59.159
And surely the best form of defenses
attack and the enemies coming to plant bombs

890
01:05:59.199 --> 01:06:01.519
and our roads and to people,
surely we should be going to undermine them

891
01:06:01.760 --> 01:06:06.480
with the gospel end of evangelism and
turn many of their people into Bible believing

892
01:06:06.519 --> 01:06:12.519
evangelical Christians. And so frontline Fadship
was born out of that vision, and

893
01:06:12.800 --> 01:06:15.280
for the last forty two years I've
been leading missions all over Africa, especially

894
01:06:15.320 --> 01:06:20.360
into communist countries in later Muslim countries
to evangelize and we took a high priority

895
01:06:20.440 --> 01:06:26.519
to evangelizing the anti communist guerrillas like
you need to freedom fighters of Jonas,

896
01:06:26.639 --> 01:06:30.440
Vimbia and Angola, and the Rhonamo
anti Commists resistance movements in Mozambique. And

897
01:06:31.320 --> 01:06:35.159
if you just think of how America
fought in Vietnam, and you left many

898
01:06:35.239 --> 01:06:40.719
years ago, nineteen seventy five,
but you left behind the Montenats, well

899
01:06:40.840 --> 01:06:45.320
trained by the Green Berets, who
continue to resist the Communists in Vietnam and

900
01:06:45.480 --> 01:06:48.719
Cambodia for decades to come. And
so I see, if you think of

901
01:06:49.079 --> 01:06:53.719
the goal of special forces, you
work behind enemy lines, and then you

902
01:06:54.239 --> 01:06:58.199
not only work behind emylianes, but
you leave behind special forces who will continue

903
01:06:58.239 --> 01:07:01.199
to fight the enemy, many of
whom are ExCom themselves. So I took

904
01:07:01.239 --> 01:07:06.199
a high priority to training unique of
freedom fighters and Runomo anti commisce guerrillas in

905
01:07:06.280 --> 01:07:12.960
the Gospel, training chaplains and leading
them with chaplains handbooks and Bibles and evangelism

906
01:07:13.280 --> 01:07:16.000
Jesus, film outreaches and so on. And these people continue to stay and

907
01:07:16.079 --> 01:07:19.400
to fight against the comments when we
come home. And so we've got anti

908
01:07:19.440 --> 01:07:24.840
commerce resistance. We've been strengthened by
the Gospel all over Africa. In Sudan,

909
01:07:26.079 --> 01:07:29.559
I found the SPLA, the Sudanese
People's Liberation on Me with a Marxist

910
01:07:29.760 --> 01:07:34.039
background, and we turned the whole
revolutionary movement of the Sudanese People's Liberation on

911
01:07:34.159 --> 01:07:38.960
Me into a Christian movement. They
got through the commisars, they brought in

912
01:07:39.039 --> 01:07:43.039
chaplains. We just frowed Bibles from
the evangelism and run up to the top

913
01:07:43.199 --> 01:07:45.599
people, their leaders. We convinced
them that the best thing was to make

914
01:07:45.639 --> 01:07:50.320
peace with God, to make peace
for the Christian population of their nation,

915
01:07:50.719 --> 01:07:55.320
and to stop fighting God and rather
to submit to God. And that'll be

916
01:07:55.360 --> 01:07:58.920
the best place to get freedom for
the country. And for so successful that

917
01:07:59.039 --> 01:08:05.039
South Sudan is now free and independent
country seceded successfully from Arabic Islamic Sadan seceded

918
01:08:05.079 --> 01:08:11.760
from the Sharia law ninth of July
two thousand and eleven. South Sadan became

919
01:08:11.800 --> 01:08:14.800
the youngest country in the world.
And that's just one of ours success stories.

920
01:08:15.239 --> 01:08:18.000
Mozambik which was a communist country where
we had to smuggle in Bibles in

921
01:08:18.079 --> 01:08:23.119
nineteen eighty two, and I started
our work today it's open for the Gospel.

922
01:08:23.399 --> 01:08:27.039
It's easy to start a Christian school
church. Very little red tape,

923
01:08:27.319 --> 01:08:30.880
and the government's even given back hundreds
of churches that that confiscated and closed back

924
01:08:30.920 --> 01:08:35.479
to the church and schools. And
so we've seen tremendous success. Angola,

925
01:08:35.479 --> 01:08:40.039
which used to be a communist country, banned the Bible, burned churches today

926
01:08:40.119 --> 01:08:44.439
wide open for the Gospel. So
our mission has seen and of course the

927
01:08:44.520 --> 01:08:46.840
greatest success of all, you could
say, is Eastern Europe, which had

928
01:08:46.920 --> 01:08:50.920
once been communist satellite of the Soviet
Union. We smuggled in Bibles, we

929
01:08:51.000 --> 01:08:56.520
did radio broadcast, we did leadership
training, underground leadership training courses like the

930
01:08:56.600 --> 01:08:59.880
School of the Prophets, which grew
into being the biggest Christian university in your

931
01:09:00.520 --> 01:09:04.800
Emmanuel University in Aradia in Romania now
and that started as an illegal night school

932
01:09:05.039 --> 01:09:11.239
during the communist persecution. And these
are just some of the examples of answers

933
01:09:11.319 --> 01:09:14.840
to prayer and the power of the
Gospel to transform lives. So right now

934
01:09:14.840 --> 01:09:18.359
we've got a whole program called the
Gospel for Guerrillas, Tracts for terrorists,

935
01:09:18.800 --> 01:09:25.560
you know, transformed terrorists into evangelists. Think of the persecuted church. Saul

936
01:09:25.720 --> 01:09:30.000
became the apostle missiony of the church. Paul and so God can take enemies

937
01:09:30.720 --> 01:09:34.640
and turn them into his own evangelists. And there's nothing like the zeal of

938
01:09:34.680 --> 01:09:40.000
a convert. And I was brought
up in a secular family and from the

939
01:09:40.119 --> 01:09:44.720
Dowos converted. I've known and been
called to missions, but to evangelize terrorists.

940
01:09:44.760 --> 01:09:46.439
And I've gone and I've preached to
terrorists. I've been their basis.

941
01:09:46.800 --> 01:09:50.720
I've evangelized Muslims who were terrorists,
of evangelised Communist who are terrorists, and

942
01:09:50.760 --> 01:09:56.399
I've seen some of them won over
where now they are evangelists. And instead

943
01:09:56.479 --> 01:10:00.000
of whipping up more wars and singing
in the Marines, I think we should

944
01:10:00.079 --> 01:10:01.600
be sending in the missionies. Instead
of bombing the people, I think we

945
01:10:01.640 --> 01:10:05.600
should bombard them with Bibles and with
prayer. And I believe there's no political

946
01:10:05.680 --> 01:10:09.920
solution to Christ in the Middle East. I believe the only solution is spiritual.

947
01:10:10.000 --> 01:10:14.039
We need to get into the Middle
East and evangelize them. So amongst

948
01:10:14.159 --> 01:10:16.760
examples you can find there's a book
out called Son of from Us where the

949
01:10:16.840 --> 01:10:19.640
son of the Founder from Us is
actually speaking out against from Us. And

950
01:10:20.399 --> 01:10:27.399
if you've seen the books of Mark
Gabriel. Mark Gabriel was an Egyptian Arab

951
01:10:27.840 --> 01:10:30.840
Muslim who was a son of an
Imam who was teaching as a professor in

952
01:10:30.960 --> 01:10:34.840
Cai University. He was trained to
people in Islam, Islamic history, and

953
01:10:34.880 --> 01:10:42.279
the Corona, and through the witness
the faithful witness of a Coptic Christian pharmacist,

954
01:10:42.720 --> 01:10:45.239
he came to christ and he was
arrested. He is tortured by the

955
01:10:45.279 --> 01:10:50.119
police in Egypt for being a convert
and apostate from Islam. In other words,

956
01:10:50.399 --> 01:10:54.560
he fled overland all the way to
South Afrika, got more training in

957
01:10:54.600 --> 01:10:58.680
Sufga. I think he now lives
in Canada, and Mark Gabriel has written

958
01:10:58.720 --> 01:11:03.239
books comparing Muhammed with Jesus, comparing
Christianity with Islam, and helping people to

959
01:11:03.359 --> 01:11:08.880
understand the mind of Islamic terrorists.
And now there's an example of how it's

960
01:11:08.960 --> 01:11:13.720
better to transform a person from being
a terrorist or somebod who supports terrorism or

961
01:11:13.960 --> 01:11:16.720
is the ideology behind it, to
being an evangelist. In Rhodija, where

962
01:11:16.720 --> 01:11:21.199
I grew up is a man Naber
Zinghi Musa who's now past the number Zingi

963
01:11:21.279 --> 01:11:29.520
Musa. He was a Zobry terrorist
Zimbobie African People's Unions Soviet back Soviet training,

964
01:11:30.079 --> 01:11:35.199
and he was sent to assassinate an
evangelist in a Heroi township outside Salisbury

965
01:11:35.600 --> 01:11:40.720
during the war, and he never
gave the order because he got so entranced

966
01:11:40.760 --> 01:11:43.800
in what the evangelists were saying.
I was told him, you preach,

967
01:11:43.880 --> 01:11:46.119
You should preach like your life depends
on it, like you were dying.

968
01:11:46.239 --> 01:11:50.079
And the last time you preach or
the last time you hearers will hear you

969
01:11:50.399 --> 01:11:56.199
well. That evangelist saved his life
by preaching so well that Musa didn't give

970
01:11:56.239 --> 01:11:59.199
the order for attack, and his
men came to afterwards confused. He said,

971
01:11:59.239 --> 01:12:02.119
go home, I'll speak to you
later, and he went to the

972
01:12:02.119 --> 01:12:05.600
evangelist gave his life to the Lord, and he went into theological training.

973
01:12:05.640 --> 01:12:10.800
He became a posta. I was
having supper with him one time and we

974
01:12:10.920 --> 01:12:13.800
were in a brefare at a hotel
and I said, you know you've passed

975
01:12:13.800 --> 01:12:15.479
the meet. Don't you want to
get the meat? And he said no,

976
01:12:15.600 --> 01:12:17.239
it reminds me too much when he
used to eat people. Oh,

977
01:12:17.680 --> 01:12:23.880
I accept with the cannibal, but
you know now he is an ebstinent capital

978
01:12:24.000 --> 01:12:30.680
cannibal and quite an extraordinary experience with
Yeah, God, can change anybody.

979
01:12:30.880 --> 01:12:32.319
I love what you're saying, because
I keep saying to people, you know,

980
01:12:32.359 --> 01:12:36.319
we're not going to have reform in
this country unless we get right with

981
01:12:36.439 --> 01:12:41.680
God. And that really is the
path. You want to have Asymmetric warfare,

982
01:12:42.079 --> 01:12:45.720
and the church is called not to
be on defense, but to be

983
01:12:45.840 --> 01:12:47.600
on offense. I love that letter. Now let me ask you. You

984
01:12:47.640 --> 01:12:51.920
said you met with a group of
terrorists. How do you How would you

985
01:12:53.079 --> 01:12:55.840
get into that group of terrorists?
And it was just somebody that introduced you

986
01:12:55.880 --> 01:12:59.279
and brought you in, how did
you get into this group? To to

987
01:12:59.479 --> 01:13:03.600
evangeliz, Well, let me give
you my first example. Back in nineteen

988
01:13:03.600 --> 01:13:09.680
eighty two, I bought my motorbike
has left South gn Army offered motormike loads

989
01:13:09.720 --> 01:13:13.680
up with World Mystery Press, gospel
booklets, got the Jesus Form and I

990
01:13:13.920 --> 01:13:16.560
rode into Mapuchu and I stood in
the street corner saying hello, Hello,

991
01:13:16.760 --> 01:13:19.640
Hello. And after a while somebody
said hello back, and I turned.

992
01:13:19.720 --> 01:13:23.159
I said, ah, you're a
Christian. He said hellly? And I

993
01:13:23.239 --> 01:13:26.800
said praise the Lord and he said
hellly. And we stood the slack sunder

994
01:13:26.800 --> 01:13:29.199
and he said, do you have
a place to stay? You must stay

995
01:13:29.199 --> 01:13:30.960
in my home tonight. Well,
we had no plan. This is our

996
01:13:31.000 --> 01:13:34.880
accommodation. Do you have a translated
I speak wronga Tonga soir and chunk on

997
01:13:35.199 --> 01:13:40.199
Portuguese fluidly. You've got the job
and the next thing you get it together.

998
01:13:40.720 --> 01:13:45.079
A whole lot of underground church people
and we talked about hundreds of people

999
01:13:45.439 --> 01:13:47.640
in it, burned out, bombed
out church commune, slogans in the walls,

1000
01:13:47.680 --> 01:13:51.640
bullet holes and the walls, blood
on the floor, place been stripped,

1001
01:13:51.760 --> 01:13:56.199
and just a few wise hanging at
the wind out of the walls where

1002
01:13:56.239 --> 01:14:00.119
there used to be plugs. And
I had an evangelistic rarely them their fourteen

1003
01:14:00.159 --> 01:14:02.880
hour service just carried on on.
The people are just so excited. You

1004
01:14:03.000 --> 01:14:08.079
the first visitor we've had since the
revolution. And then I'd have the Jesus

1005
01:14:08.159 --> 01:14:12.880
Form. Now interestingly, just that
first time to show you how bizarre everything

1006
01:14:13.039 --> 01:14:15.239
was. I told him I've brought
the Jesus Form, and people got so

1007
01:14:15.359 --> 01:14:18.439
excited about that. And then I
said, do you know where I can

1008
01:14:18.520 --> 01:14:21.319
borrow a projector? And I all
got deflated, like as he had of

1009
01:14:21.359 --> 01:14:24.760
his money. He comes to Mosiwiki, doesn't have a projector, how's he

1010
01:14:24.800 --> 01:14:27.399
going to show the film. Well, afterwards the man came up to you

1011
01:14:27.439 --> 01:14:30.359
and said, I work at the
British Embassy. They've got a projector.

1012
01:14:30.720 --> 01:14:33.560
Come to the corner of Vlader Milin
and Marcy Tungue Street tomorrow and I'll introduce

1013
01:14:33.600 --> 01:14:40.319
you to the Yeah, seriously,
to the consulate. And so I went

1014
01:14:40.359 --> 01:14:44.520
to concert explained, and I'm British
citizen because my father fought sixty as the

1015
01:14:44.560 --> 01:14:47.960
Second World War in the rural Artillery
and the eighth Army of a British prossport,

1016
01:14:48.000 --> 01:14:51.600
even though I've never lived in Britain. So I showed him my British

1017
01:14:51.600 --> 01:14:55.760
pastor and said, may I bury
your sixteen millimeters projector. I'm a British

1018
01:14:55.920 --> 01:14:59.279
missionary work in Mozambika, brought a
film, but I don't have a projector.

1019
01:14:59.520 --> 01:15:01.800
I couldn't have afford the projector back
then. Actually I just come out

1020
01:15:01.800 --> 01:15:05.760
the Army, put all my money
into getting the filmant getting the Bibles we

1021
01:15:05.840 --> 01:15:10.560
needed, so I couldn't afford the
projector. So talk about a faith mission.

1022
01:15:11.159 --> 01:15:15.359
And the concertor said, you welcome
to borrow my projector, but he

1023
01:15:15.439 --> 01:15:18.199
said, I need to warn you. These power failures most of the time

1024
01:15:18.359 --> 01:15:21.319
when you get electrics about once a
week. Wow. I said, well,

1025
01:15:21.319 --> 01:15:25.159
we have to pray about that.
So I set up in the church

1026
01:15:25.359 --> 01:15:28.640
and I've got to take the plug
off with the Phillip screw driver and then

1027
01:15:29.000 --> 01:15:32.079
twist the wires together, trying not
to electrocute myself, which isn't difficult because

1028
01:15:32.079 --> 01:15:35.439
there's no power, and then pray
for the lights come on. Well,

1029
01:15:35.560 --> 01:15:40.319
that night, that first night,
believe it or not, the power came

1030
01:15:40.359 --> 01:15:43.800
on so I could show the tow
this film. And just as we're in

1031
01:15:43.840 --> 01:15:45.920
the Chris friction scene, the power
goes off. I thought, that's not

1032
01:15:46.039 --> 01:15:50.119
bad. But most of the film
I serve and I preached, and as

1033
01:15:50.199 --> 01:15:54.960
I was preaching on the Cross of
Christ, the lights come back on,

1034
01:15:55.079 --> 01:15:59.039
so I'm able to continue. We
finished the resurrection scene, great commission,

1035
01:15:59.319 --> 01:16:02.479
and then the form us over I
could preach the more And while I'm preaching

1036
01:16:02.520 --> 01:16:06.199
in the pitch doc, I see
Saltians and camouflage coming to the front carrying

1037
01:16:06.199 --> 01:16:10.600
the AK forty sentents, and I
thought I'm about to get arrested. No,

1038
01:16:10.800 --> 01:16:13.760
they knelt on the floor. They
put their AK forty sentiments on the

1039
01:16:13.840 --> 01:16:15.439
ground. They knelt down and they
said, we want to give our lives

1040
01:16:15.479 --> 01:16:18.920
to Christ. And I was able
to leave lead communists to Christ. On

1041
01:16:19.039 --> 01:16:24.039
my first mission to Mozabee, I've
baptized communist, I've had Bible says.

1042
01:16:24.319 --> 01:16:27.640
Now some of them will invited to
come to the next place. Or I'd

1043
01:16:27.680 --> 01:16:30.119
have can you show the form of
our camp. I'd go to a camp

1044
01:16:30.239 --> 01:16:34.760
and I'd crank up the generator,
and when we were a bit more organized,

1045
01:16:34.800 --> 01:16:38.319
lady, we actually brought our own
generators long and we could show the

1046
01:16:38.399 --> 01:16:41.960
Jesus film in their communist camps.
I've shown the Jews film in camps of

1047
01:16:42.039 --> 01:16:45.439
communistms and Bowe, Mozambique and Cola
absolutely magnificent, even to Arabs inc.

1048
01:16:45.560 --> 01:16:53.840
Then I was driving in Harrari in
the embassy lane and I saw an embassy

1049
01:16:53.880 --> 01:16:59.680
to the Palestinian Liberation Organization. So
I quickly stopped and turned into the embassy

1050
01:17:00.079 --> 01:17:02.399
and I asked to speak to the
head of the PLO there in Horori.

1051
01:17:02.640 --> 01:17:06.279
So this is like a terrorist training
camp in an embassy which used to be

1052
01:17:06.279 --> 01:17:10.439
an embassy, and now it's an
embassy for the PILO terrorists in Horrai.

1053
01:17:11.079 --> 01:17:13.319
And you know, I've got in
there and I started to I said I'm

1054
01:17:13.319 --> 01:17:16.600
a theological student, at which at
that stage I was, and I'm interested

1055
01:17:16.640 --> 01:17:20.800
in learning about Islam, which is
also true because I have specialized in Islam.

1056
01:17:21.199 --> 01:17:24.760
And so we sat down and they
started to explaining Islam and they were

1057
01:17:24.760 --> 01:17:28.000
saying, but Islam, isn't there
any motivation of Pilo. The Pilos has

1058
01:17:28.199 --> 01:17:30.680
Christians as well, and you know
where I found it hard to believe.

1059
01:17:30.760 --> 01:17:34.159
But in talking to them and they
were saying, you know, we believe

1060
01:17:34.159 --> 01:17:38.000
in full religious freedom. I said, I'm so glad to hear that I've

1061
01:17:38.039 --> 01:17:42.199
got the Jesus from Can I show
it to your people? And this ship

1062
01:17:42.239 --> 01:17:45.359
looks a bit like what I say, wrong? And we went out there

1063
01:17:45.359 --> 01:17:47.479
and we showed the film. In
these you could see some of the Muslims

1064
01:17:47.520 --> 01:17:51.159
were quite agitated, but you know, they just proclaimed a religious freedom and

1065
01:17:51.319 --> 01:17:55.000
so okay, I didn't get a
second chance, but I did get away

1066
01:17:55.000 --> 01:17:59.600
with it that time and things like
this. There's a time I was preaching

1067
01:18:00.039 --> 01:18:04.079
to a group of I call them
books the Zimbobie National Army on an observation

1068
01:18:04.239 --> 01:18:09.920
post overlooking Muttori in the Eastern Hans
of Zimbobbie. And on the way out

1069
01:18:10.479 --> 01:18:15.359
we were intercepted. Somebody had complained
that US preaching, and on the way

1070
01:18:15.439 --> 01:18:19.239
down the COO Central Intelligence Organization,
they're like the KGB of Zimbobie. They

1071
01:18:19.359 --> 01:18:24.119
blocked the road that caught us,
ambushed us, and us taken off to

1072
01:18:24.159 --> 01:18:27.760
interrogation. And when I say interrogation, I mean took into a room that

1073
01:18:27.840 --> 01:18:30.720
looked like a hardware store table full
of all kinds of pliers and other tools,

1074
01:18:31.159 --> 01:18:34.920
and sat in an arm chair which
had leather straps for the arms and

1075
01:18:34.960 --> 01:18:39.239
for their feet. And there's a
battery in the corner with crocodile clips and

1076
01:18:39.279 --> 01:18:42.840
wires, so you know where you're
going to be chances with electricity. And

1077
01:18:42.880 --> 01:18:45.239
they're not depending on Zimbobbi electricity.
They've got their own battery there. And

1078
01:18:45.479 --> 01:18:51.560
I mean it's literally shocking. So
I'm sitting down there and they said,

1079
01:18:51.640 --> 01:18:55.560
what are you teaching them in?
So I started to relct the gospel.

1080
01:18:55.600 --> 01:18:58.079
No, no, no stop.
Why do you come Tozimbobie. So I

1081
01:18:58.159 --> 01:19:02.399
related my testimony. I tell you, these men start to shuffle scratched back

1082
01:19:02.399 --> 01:19:06.880
of their heads and shuffler feets and
look at the fingernails and getting awkward.

1083
01:19:06.920 --> 01:19:11.520
And the one man said, my
mother's very religious. My one said,

1084
01:19:11.680 --> 01:19:15.359
my sister's religious, And before you
knew it, the whole atmosphere changed.

1085
01:19:15.359 --> 01:19:20.399
I'm talking about these blood, tasty, callous torturers, the s they humor,

1086
01:19:20.479 --> 01:19:25.039
the conviction of sin. Wow.
And you know, in a time

1087
01:19:25.159 --> 01:19:28.760
like that, you really feel functioned
from and how to preach like you've never

1088
01:19:28.840 --> 01:19:32.159
preached before, because your life,
literally and your fingernouns depends on So I

1089
01:19:33.119 --> 01:19:36.560
proclaimed the Gospel them, and literally
within the hour, I was driving out

1090
01:19:36.600 --> 01:19:40.560
to the driver and giving back my
vehicle on keys, and these men are

1091
01:19:40.560 --> 01:19:44.560
standing with their Bibles and Shauna under
the arms, waving goodbye. And it

1092
01:19:44.680 --> 01:19:47.479
actually happened. In fact, I've
written a whole book on this thing,

1093
01:19:48.560 --> 01:19:53.359
Frontline Behind Me, Lines for Christ
on a forty two years of events,

1094
01:19:53.439 --> 01:19:58.000
and these are just some of the
evangelisms amongst terrorists, overfall and footy pictures

1095
01:19:58.039 --> 01:20:03.319
in it. I've got test me
of opportunities to preach to communist terrorists,

1096
01:20:03.600 --> 01:20:10.479
revolutionaries, militants, radicals, rioters. We've had times and people whove been

1097
01:20:10.560 --> 01:20:13.560
taking books and matches in our faces
saying I'm going to Nicholas you, We're

1098
01:20:13.560 --> 01:20:16.600
going to earn your life, and
things like this, but we have persevered

1099
01:20:16.640 --> 01:20:21.399
in God's given grace, wisdom,
strength. I'm convinced Missionis can do far

1100
01:20:21.479 --> 01:20:27.279
more for the security of our nations
by evangelizing enemies than we can by going

1101
01:20:27.319 --> 01:20:30.399
there bombing them and radicalizing more people
and winning them more recruits. Oh.

1102
01:20:30.439 --> 01:20:33.800
I absolutely. I love what you're
doing. And what it reminds me of

1103
01:20:34.039 --> 01:20:38.760
is that, certainly in your life
you are not ashamed of the Gospel of

1104
01:20:38.880 --> 01:20:42.119
Christ. I think that is the
biggest problem with the American Church. People

1105
01:20:42.359 --> 01:20:45.319
have been so browbeat about all this, Oh, we've got to be nice

1106
01:20:45.319 --> 01:20:48.159
to everybody, we have to meet
them where they are, and all the

1107
01:20:48.199 --> 01:20:50.239
rest of this stuff. No,
you just need to tell the truth,

1108
01:20:50.840 --> 01:20:54.680
and you need to say it.
They're not in a mean way. And

1109
01:20:54.720 --> 01:20:58.600
as I said, oh, you
just simply declare the truth. And that

1110
01:20:58.800 --> 01:21:01.479
is the key thing. And that's
what Americans are afraid to do to the

1111
01:21:01.640 --> 01:21:06.880
man. They don't that they've been
shamed into silence. We've been shamed into

1112
01:21:08.000 --> 01:21:12.319
the closet while every kind of perversity
is parading in the street here in the

1113
01:21:12.359 --> 01:21:15.199
middle of Pride Month. We are
shamed to say anything about that, and

1114
01:21:15.319 --> 01:21:18.319
not necessarily in a condemning way.
But you know, to put out the

1115
01:21:18.359 --> 01:21:23.399
Gospel of Christ and sometimes calls in
what it is. And that's what you

1116
01:21:23.560 --> 01:21:26.880
have done, is to give people
the Gospel, to give them a hope

1117
01:21:26.920 --> 01:21:29.760
in an area where they have no
hope. You know, for all these

1118
01:21:29.840 --> 01:21:31.199
guys who are terrorists, all these
guys who are torturing people, I mean,

1119
01:21:31.239 --> 01:21:36.840
it's just for them. How are
they going to know that tomorrow they

1120
01:21:36.840 --> 01:21:40.800
won't be the ones that are sitting
in the chair and having their fingernails pulled

1121
01:21:40.800 --> 01:21:45.960
out. In fact, I point
this design Holo treks specifically for terrorists,

1122
01:21:45.000 --> 01:21:49.479
pointing out that every revolution is cannibalistic, they end up killing them. Yes,

1123
01:21:49.640 --> 01:21:54.319
And just think of who is the
hero of the revolution in so Viegeen

1124
01:21:54.920 --> 01:21:58.239
Leon Trotsky, and he literally got
axed, bold of strong, he got

1125
01:21:58.279 --> 01:22:00.479
an ice pick in the head.
He's buried and mixed city. And this

1126
01:22:00.680 --> 01:22:04.600
is what happens, like an animal
farm snowball. The hero of the revolutionary

1127
01:22:04.720 --> 01:22:09.279
gets killed by the dogs who sit
on him, by Napoleon, And this

1128
01:22:09.479 --> 01:22:13.039
is the way it goes. In
Zimbabwe, the leader of the revolution,

1129
01:22:13.399 --> 01:22:18.439
Josiah Tonga, the head of the
Zimbabwe African Union Liberation Army he gets murdered

1130
01:22:18.880 --> 01:22:26.479
on Christmas Eve in Zimbabwe and opens
the door to mcgoby becoming the first leader

1131
01:22:26.520 --> 01:22:30.479
of Zimbabwe. And in South Afka, the leader of the Communist Party was

1132
01:22:30.600 --> 01:22:34.800
Chris Hani, who gets murdered just
the year before to enable not just Mondela

1133
01:22:34.840 --> 01:22:39.760
to become presents, because Chris Hani
was very charismatic, a good speaker,

1134
01:22:39.960 --> 01:22:45.840
after basing him in the public too, but to allow Tarban Becky and Jacob

1135
01:22:45.920 --> 01:22:50.720
Zuma to become the first successor to
Mandela. Chris Hani we'd been a schuen

1136
01:22:50.800 --> 01:22:55.600
and he is so liked, so
charismatic, and he was the most powerful

1137
01:22:55.640 --> 01:22:59.359
man, being the head of the
Communist Party, head of the Quanti Sisri,

1138
01:22:59.760 --> 01:23:01.960
which is the armed wing, the
terrorist wing of the ANC. And

1139
01:23:02.119 --> 01:23:06.760
so his assassination, which many in
the ANC, including William Mandela say was

1140
01:23:06.800 --> 01:23:11.279
an inside job done by the ANC
to get rid of him because he's too

1141
01:23:11.319 --> 01:23:17.119
popular. Edward macloney was the founder
of the Filimo Communist Party in Mazabique.

1142
01:23:17.680 --> 01:23:24.960
The main streets in Mapuchi is named
the ed Mardon Manloney Avenue Boulevard Edward Manlony.

1143
01:23:25.520 --> 01:23:29.119
Well. He was murdered so that
Samora Michelle could take his place,

1144
01:23:29.439 --> 01:23:33.039
and so it carries on every revolution. You can see the revolutions are cannibalistic.

1145
01:23:33.359 --> 01:23:38.720
Do you know that Marchi Tung in
nineteen sixty eight nineteen sixty six began

1146
01:23:38.800 --> 01:23:44.399
the Cultural Revolution by arresting the President
of Red China and the head of the

1147
01:23:44.520 --> 01:23:47.600
army. They were Troika. He
was the chairman, there was the president

1148
01:23:47.720 --> 01:23:51.319
and the head of the army of
the Red China were accused of treason.

1149
01:23:51.800 --> 01:23:57.600
I mean, how's it even possible? And Marchitung sees his power and eliminates

1150
01:23:57.680 --> 01:24:00.640
millions of people. And this is
to communists. The second phase of the

1151
01:24:00.680 --> 01:24:05.479
revolution. They always end up killing
the revolutionaries like Stalin Shrow trials. He

1152
01:24:05.600 --> 01:24:10.920
killed off the veterans of the ultric
revolution. You see, people who do

1153
01:24:11.079 --> 01:24:15.159
a revolution cannot be trusted because when
you fail to fulfill your promises, they

1154
01:24:15.239 --> 01:24:18.199
know how to overthrow a government.
They're going to overthrow you. So the

1155
01:24:18.279 --> 01:24:23.840
first people to get in the neck
literally is the band god of the revolution.

1156
01:24:23.960 --> 01:24:26.359
The van god of the revolution gets
slaunted in the second phase of the

1157
01:24:26.399 --> 01:24:30.199
revolution. So I share these facts
with the comments and when they realize that,

1158
01:24:30.239 --> 01:24:33.600
they start to understand. Like Moist
Trombet of Congo as well. You

1159
01:24:33.680 --> 01:24:38.760
know, he gets wiped out the
Commists at a university training terrorists in Moscow

1160
01:24:38.920 --> 01:24:45.279
called them the patricial Member University Patricial
Member was the leader of the communist revolution

1161
01:24:45.600 --> 01:24:49.600
and he was murdered by his own
in the Congo. And this is absolutely

1162
01:24:49.640 --> 01:24:54.680
typical when people realize, you realize
that just using you like a pawn and

1163
01:24:54.760 --> 01:24:58.520
you're going to be sacrificed for the
good of the revolution. Soon you start

1164
01:24:58.560 --> 01:25:02.520
to get them realizing you know it's
true. And when I understand the history

1165
01:25:02.560 --> 01:25:05.199
and understand where there's going, many
of these people are willing to turn.

1166
01:25:05.760 --> 01:25:11.479
And many ex communists have ended up
being the best anti communist and they've been

1167
01:25:11.720 --> 01:25:15.239
the best fighters in Ranamo, the
anti Commists resistance in Mozabik, or the

1168
01:25:15.319 --> 01:25:19.680
uned anti Commis resistance and Gola,
and so it is when people understand how

1169
01:25:19.720 --> 01:25:24.119
communists work, they get to realize
they're going to shoot me in the back

1170
01:25:24.159 --> 01:25:27.840
of the neck as well. Yes, I've got to get out now and

1171
01:25:28.279 --> 01:25:31.239
be part of resistance because if us
stay, my day's a numbered And so

1172
01:25:32.319 --> 01:25:38.600
there are ways to persuade the communists
and when they get to understand that you

1173
01:25:38.800 --> 01:25:42.760
understand history. That also helps.
I've had this before when when I was

1174
01:25:42.880 --> 01:25:46.880
arrested in Mozambique nineteen eighty nine.
I was thrown prison there and quite an

1175
01:25:47.119 --> 01:25:51.199
experience. There was a much harvest
security prison Maputu, and I wake up

1176
01:25:51.279 --> 01:25:55.479
to a horrible smell and I feel
something on my face. In it,

1177
01:25:55.720 --> 01:25:59.520
I'm lying on a concrete floor and
there's a rat just about to sort of

1178
01:25:59.520 --> 01:26:02.079
stop them my nose in a smart
like he has come from the sewers,

1179
01:26:02.119 --> 01:26:05.720
which he had, I'm sure.
And there was a hole under the door

1180
01:26:05.960 --> 01:26:12.359
that rat could get in outs.
And so right there I knew what I

1181
01:26:12.399 --> 01:26:15.039
was in. Well. Later the
day that came for me for interrogation,

1182
01:26:15.439 --> 01:26:17.399
I'm dragged. They never let you
walk. They dragged me down the hallway

1183
01:26:18.039 --> 01:26:23.079
God on each side, into again
another one of these interrogation rooms that looked

1184
01:26:23.159 --> 01:26:30.199
like a Hodwa store. And the
man beyond table said I am the devil.

1185
01:26:30.279 --> 01:26:31.880
And I said, you're not the
devil, and he said, oh,

1186
01:26:31.920 --> 01:26:34.479
I'm the devil. I'm not only
a Marxist and a Lenist, I'm

1187
01:26:34.479 --> 01:26:40.279
a Stalinist. I was trained in
tricks to Morchia. So I responded,

1188
01:26:40.319 --> 01:26:43.600
well, I'm a Christian, and
he spat out I hate Christians, but

1189
01:26:43.600 --> 01:26:46.680
I mean he spat it up for
such venom, and how do you respond

1190
01:26:46.720 --> 01:26:50.159
to that? Well, he then
start to break me for the evils of

1191
01:26:51.039 --> 01:26:56.640
communists, of evils a Christianity.
And then he said, you know,

1192
01:26:57.000 --> 01:27:00.439
Jesus Christ was the first communist.
Jesus Christ taught from all going to the

1193
01:27:00.520 --> 01:27:03.359
bill ty each according to his need. So you saw that cheese Christ.

1194
01:27:03.399 --> 01:27:08.640
It sounds like colmock where in the
Bible to get this? And they and

1195
01:27:08.840 --> 01:27:12.560
then he carried on with the first
Christmas were the first communists. And in

1196
01:27:12.640 --> 01:27:15.159
fact, anyone who refused to share
their property was killed. And you know,

1197
01:27:15.279 --> 01:27:18.079
we are just enforcing what you're reading
a book of Acts, he says.

1198
01:27:18.520 --> 01:27:20.680
So I said, well, if
you read the Book of actiscy an

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license fire. Were not killed by
the apostles. They were struck dead by

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God himself. No human hand touched
them because they lied to the Holy Spirit.

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And it was not that they weren't
willing to share their property. It

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was that they lied, and that
they'd not lied just the man. They'd

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lied to God, to the Holy
Spirit. And anyway, I then went

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on and said, if Jesus christ
was the first communist, and the early

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Church were the practice communism. Why
do you ban Bibles? Why is it

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that I've got a smuggle bibles?
And why burnt? If this was true,

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you'd want to promote Bibles. And
the man started to give me a

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lecture on how evil capitalism was,
and gave a tirade against Margaret Thatcher,

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who was Prime minist in Britain at
that stage. So I then gave a

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lecture about the French Revolution and explaining
how secular humanism ropes you and Voltaire,

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how they brought by the collapse of
good standards for the poor, and how

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the poor always benefits from Christianity,
and how the poor get poorer and I'm

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more pressed under communism. And then
the man gave me a lecture on dialecting

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materialism, and so I gave him. I thought, I can swap lectures

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all day. I love history much
more than getting your femails ripped out and

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being electrocuted. I gave him electure
on the Reformation. We went backwards and

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forwards about these things, and at
the end he declared the interview over been

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six hours. Look at the clock
in the wall, and it just shows

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if you know your history, you
can engage Communists and Commis love arguing politics

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and history economics. So when you
know that, it's much better, you'll

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keep your fingernails, you'll keep your
I'm much happier to debate the communists,

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and they normally have to debate,
But if you don't have anything intelligence said,

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they'll start torturing. I mean seriously, that's what happens. Well,

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what about when you go to Islam. How does it you described your situation

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with the communists and how they like
to debate history and politics and maybe even

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religion. What about Islam when you've
had encounters that, Well, Islam loves

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discussing religion. So again, you've
got to know the Qoran. And I

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learned the Qoran not only from Christians
who worked amongst Muslims. I went into

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the mosques and I asked the Muslims
to train me. I went to Islamic

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propagations in and had them explain the
Quran. And the first day I didn't

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even ask me questions except to clarify
things. And I've learned a Muslim's perspective

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in Islam, which is different from
a Christian like me. Explaining is long

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to you and so that was very
helpful. So I first may try to

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understood Islam pretty well. Then I
went to the very experienced man Niels undrtured

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or Evangelism and Muslim Araus. He
taught me how to reach Muslims well.

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And so what I've done is sometimes
gone into mosques and ask the mom if

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we could have a debate on Islam
and Christianity, or comparing Jesus Muhammad or

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the Corona Bible, or how can
you know that our sins are forgiven?

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How are your sins forgiven of Islam? How can you be right to God?

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How can you know you're going to
paradox? And we discuss things like

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this. Let sometimes one to discuss
was Jesus christfad did Jesus rise from dead?

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Those are good debating subjects. So
debates and discussions always help meeting people

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in the homes they're willing to let
you in. Normally I can go to

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the Malay Quarter where it's hundreds in
Muslim and mosques all over the place,

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and you come and knock and door, I'd like to talk to you about

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I'm a Christian. I'd like to
talk to you about Islam and Christianity.

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Would you be interested in discussion.
They often batch you in, give your

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tea coffee, sit down and have
a discussion. We've even organized Bible studies

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in mosques where we come and we
say, okay, what is a don't

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teach about this subject? And they'll
explain what the Plant teachers in that subject,

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and then we'll explain what the Bible
says about that subject. Then they'll

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explain what the Crown says about another
subject, and so you've got basically it's

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an objective, constructive discussion. This
is to understand what you tell me,

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what the Crown teachers on sin,
man, God, Heaven, Hell,

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Salvation, so on. I'll tell
you what the wild is and interesting discussions

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come out of it. And we've
had people coming to us saying, you

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know, I'm from Saudi Arabia.
This is illegal in Saudi Arabia, you

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know, and they sex up when
you give them a Bible and they're like,

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can I have this? You know, this is illegal in my country,

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and they've got all excited to somebody's
been given something that's illegal and is

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I find the more from a hardcore
Muslim country that come the more open or

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to the Gospel when in another country
is obviously an own country that wouldn't be

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able to do that, and so
we have debates, we have discussions,

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and we meet people in homes and
if as long as you can talk intelligently

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and it's obviously understand is we can
get quite far. And I've got friends

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who used to be Muslims who've been
converted to Christ and it's wonderful. And

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people from Pakistan, people from Iraq, people from Syria, people from Saudi

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Arabia and Egypt. We've got a
whole Bible college going up in Northern Africa,

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in an Arabic speaking North African country, which is part of our William

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Carey Bible Institute, and we've got
thirteen students who came from a Muslim background

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what you call a Muslim background Believer
or NBB, and it's just wonderful.

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We had a while ago when we
had six graduates finished the three year program

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and we had a graduation service was
totally illegal, underground and secret, but

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we were able to through a web
platforms able to have me still give a

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presentation at the graduation service remotely.
And these people came from unreached people where

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it's totally illegal and this was all
done in a country where this would be

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completely illegal. Muslims are coming to
christ and it's exciting. So that's something

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that that surprises me, is that
you would be able because is it different

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different parts of Islam because we look
at it as monolithic. But of course

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you got the Shia, and you've
got the hobbyist and the Sunnis and all

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the rest of this stuff. There's
a lot of different flavors of that.

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Is that why and some of these
now you mentioned that you're still having to

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do some things underground, but I
guess in some of these areas, maybe

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that's why the mom would be open
to debate. Or is it just because

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they're somebody that's from another country and
they're not being watched, or it's all

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of those things. And so what
you find is a MUSLIMI mom wants to

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win a Christian to Islam, and
so this would be a great state of

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symbol if he could, if he
could persuade me to become Muslim. Now

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he's convinced Islam as right, I
know, the Christians, but the fact

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it's willing to recircle. Let's make
this even you know, you explain what

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the cross I explained the moms is
now he's convinced he's going to win you

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over. So his goal is to
evangelize me for Islam Dawa, and my

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goal is to share the gost for
him. And we know that actually,

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ultimately it's not a decision. This
is something the Lord does. And there's

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some good tools. One of them
is more than Dreams, and More than

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Dreams has five Muslim conversions true stories
done and I recreated from method showing actual

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tests and Muslims how they came to
Christ. I've got some booklets as well

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about how people came to Christ from
Islam. And if you go to the

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people in a way of them being
interested in a discussion, and hopefully when

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you use Islam. That's why I
often portray myself as I'm a theological student

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and I'm a student of Islam.
I'm interested in learning about Islam. But

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you help answer my questions, and
of course many of my questions are going

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to cause doubts in their mind too, like how do you prepare your heart

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for prayer? And they happily tell
you how they wash their hands in their

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ears and the nose, and they
clean their feet and so on and yes,

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but how do you clean your heart? I find very hard to prepare

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mine. How do you wash your
mind? And they get confused? And

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do you you ask questions such as, what can you tell me to convince

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me that the Corona is the word
of God? And it's because Muhammed said

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it? And how do I know
that Muhammed is a true prophet of God?

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Or because the churn says yes?
Well, isn't the circular reason?

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I mean, how can I know
the Corona is the word of God?

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And yeah, it's there? Are
there any prophecies in the Quran about events

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far ahead? And tell them about
some of the prophecies in the Bible,

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and then I've spoken. Some of
the top Muslim evangelists in the world debates

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is like Ahmadidad who was He's written
as scores of books, printed millions of

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copies. He's the founder Islamic Propagation
Center natural so Amid debating him and he's

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filming this the same time. So
what prophecies are in the Quran? Well,

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Mohammad prophts aren't that the Roman Empire
would fall, but the Roman Empire

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felt before Mohammad was born. That's
called history. That's not prof and what

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miracles did Mohammad do? And well, let let me go back to the

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first question. How do I know
that Muhammad is a prophet of God?

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Dead? Serious? Is his answer. He had a gap between his front

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teeth, and he had a mole, you know, and this apparently I

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think the mole was on his back
actually, so you know, some dermological

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problems, some dental problem, and
that prus is a prophet of God.

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But seriously, that's what he gave. Was there any miracles that Muhammad did

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when he prophecies the gave, Well, in fact, there was, according

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to Ahmadida. I mean, remember
he's the top Islamic author, he's the

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founder of that in the Propagations International. When Mohammad was fleeing the soldiers of

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Mecca, he hid in the cave
and the spider spun a web over the

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cave mouth. And when the soldiers
came past and said, well, you

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can't be in there, and they
went on, they said, that's it,

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spider's web. I mean, that's
the strongest you've got, And I

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mean that's the answer gave. Well, of course I could say a lot

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more about how Jesus from the Koran, the Korn Jesus was born in virgin

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he is holy, sinless, perfect. Here's the word of God, Here's

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the Messiah. The Quran says this
like a Chaptain verse on the stories about

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that. And Jesus, as I
said, into heaven, he's coming gain

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to judge a living and the dead. What other prophets can you say this

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of? And you know, just
comparing Jesus with any other prophet already convincess.

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So we lay some foundations like this
and discussions and you know, I

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make it sound easy, but of
course it's hard to be us as interruptions

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and they always want to say that
what they want to say before they listen

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to you. So you've got to
listen to them first. Ask questions.

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But I find asking probing questions to
help. How can you know for sure

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that you're going to Paradise? Well, of course there's only one way,

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and Muslim can know for sure that
he's going to Paradi if he dies into

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heart killing the Infidel. But they
can't say that to you. I mean,

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Muhammed himself said he didn't know what
Allah would do with him on Dave

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Judgment. So Austin, how can
you know for sure that you're entert I

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don't know how can Allah forgive you
a sense? And you know the answer

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got from a three times he raised
his shoulders in his arms hands up trade

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And then of course, as you
mentioned there, they'll say that Jesus was

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you know, virgin birth, the
prophet of God, Messiah, and all

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the rest of it coming back.
And yet they deny the Christ the cross

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right. And so they deny it. They doing payment for a cent.

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So you know, how do they
respond with that issue, whether are arms

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up? Well, they deny the
crist fix of Christ based on an interpretation

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of one sora. There's one verse
that says that that that Nabisa was not

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chrisfhand, although it was made to
appear so to them. Now, that's

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just one sra written by somebody who
was not an eyewitness hundreds of years later.

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And yet there's so many saws in
the Kuran that authenticate that the Bible

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is the word of God, and
that you mustn't dispute to the people of

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the book, and that the words
of Alah cannot be lost or changed or

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corrupted. The other's words endure forever. So on this basis, I'm able

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to make a strong case that the
Quran claims to be built on the Bible.

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Koran claims to be a authentication and
a confirmation of the Bible, and

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Muhammed claims to be the lost prophet. He's confirming what all the other prophets

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said, including Nabisa, the prophet
Jesus. So they're on the end of

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a branch and they can't solve the
branch on the inside. Not that Southwunga.

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The Bible does not depend on the
Quran, but the Koran does depend

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on the Bible, and we need
to build on that because wus them cannot

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deny Jesus. He is a profit
of his They must respect him. In

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fact, when they say Nabiisa,
they must add peace be upon him,

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like they do about Mohamad. They
might forget, but we can remind them

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because he is illustrious in this world
and in the hereafter, and here is

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a sign for the nations, for
all nations. Ahmadida would like to say,

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well, Jesus is a prophet to
the Jews, but Muhammed is a

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prophet to all nations. But the
Koran states that Jesus is a sign to

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all the nations, and so they
cannot actually deny Jesus. Even just knowing

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the Quran is enough to make them
see that Jesus or Nabisa as they call

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them, the prophet Jesus is not
to be compared with any other, and

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he is perfect. Now, even
using the Koran, I can lead into

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points of seeing Jesus is more important
than Muhammad. Do you know that Muhammad

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is mentioned four times in the Koran, only four times. Jesus by the

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name of Nabia is mentioned over eighty
times in the Koran. In fact,

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Mary is mentioned I'll see more times
than Mhammad as well. And so already

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you can see from the Koran itself
the importance of Jesus and his mother,

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and that Muhammad is not a major
emphasis of the churn. They get more

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on Muhammad, of course and hadith, but that death is not as authenticated

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as the chron. The korn is
others words to us according to them,

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and hadith is the teachings and the
actions of Muhammad mentioned by his followers.

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So deith is secondary to the chorn, and we've gotten quite far with that.

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So I thought, being white and
Western, and it's kind of obviously

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my complexion gives me away that this
would be a sotminu blok to me evangelizing,

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but actually it's not. In many
ways, it creates interest. And

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I found even with the with the
black people, ander the Arab people,

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I'm a bit of anomally, a
bit of a status symbol. They've got

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this foreigner, this guest, and
they like to invite me in. And

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one thing we find that always works
with Muslims if you want to get an

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01:41:57.079 --> 01:42:00.039
opening, is can I pray for
you? Is anything that you need prayer

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for? And you know personally said
they know prayers to Muhammad haven't healed anyone,

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but many of them have great faith
that Nabis prophet Jesus he can heal.

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I mean, there's no evidence anywhere
that Muhammad healed anyone, but Jesus

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01:42:15.359 --> 01:42:17.880
healed many people, and they know
that even from the Koran. Now when

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we come along, we say can
I pray for you? Whether it's in

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01:42:20.880 --> 01:42:24.880
a home or something. Muslims always
come up with things that they need pray

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01:42:24.960 --> 01:42:28.760
for. Now you pray, and
when the prayers answered. You can imagine

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how this really opens up people's hearts. And people's children have been healed from

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sickness, people have experienced all kinds
of answers to prayer in the name of

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Jesus. And therefore that's something This
is something you see in the frontiers of

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01:42:42.720 --> 01:42:47.399
gospel work. I wouldn't advise this
normally, but Mark sixteen speaks about when

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we work for God, he works
along with us, and he will he

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will confirm the Word with signs following. And so remember every promise in the

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Bible, every command and Bible comes
to the promise. And so when the

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Lord says I'll be with you always, it's in the context of going to

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all the world and make themselves of
all nations and the little breathing them and

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01:43:08.560 --> 01:43:11.399
said, receive the Early Spirit.
You will be my witnesses in Jerusalem and

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01:43:11.439 --> 01:43:15.119
Judea and Samia. And that's resparts
earth when Holy Spirit comes upon you.

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So the power is promised when we
are fulfilling the great commission. I've seen

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01:43:21.079 --> 01:43:25.640
miraculous healings. And I was in
the Nuber mountains of Sedan when I got

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stung by a scorpion. It was
a little luminous of almost colorless scorpion with

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massive tail and small clippers. Those
are the most deadly. And my left

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01:43:38.680 --> 01:43:43.039
hand was poisoned by stung by the
scorpion, and I could feel a person

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01:43:43.119 --> 01:43:45.960
working up my arm heading towards my
heart, and it was nothing for it

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except to call for the elders to
pray for me. So Christians and Mishley

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01:43:50.119 --> 01:43:55.840
coworkers gathered around and prayed for me, and I felt the poison going down

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01:43:55.920 --> 01:43:59.760
my arm and out through my fingers, and the local Muslim sort and the

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01:44:00.199 --> 01:44:01.960
scorpion, you know, he is
stung by the scorpion. And that's a

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01:44:02.000 --> 01:44:05.960
deadly scorpion, not the dark scorpions
or the big clippers and a small tail.

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This is a light colored scorpions,
almost transparent scorpions with a big tail.

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They're the deadly ones. And they
could see what the Bible says that

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you know, they'll be stung by
scorpions and by snakes, and we're not

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01:44:19.399 --> 01:44:23.079
home them. Well, we don't
believe in doing this on a stage.

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01:44:23.159 --> 01:44:27.319
We're not like those cults might play
with snakes and things like this. But

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in the actual course of God's work
and these things happen. There was promised

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to intervene, and so in ministry, in the frontiers of missions, amongst

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01:44:36.479 --> 01:44:40.399
these people's grips, I've seen answers
to prayer. So I'm not a science

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01:44:40.439 --> 01:44:45.079
and wonders person. I believe the
Bible is our authority totally. But miracles

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01:44:45.199 --> 01:44:50.439
happen in pioneer missions, and I've
heard that many times. Signs of miracles

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01:44:50.640 --> 01:44:54.279
person either, but yes, I've
heard many, many reports of that.

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As you said on the front Line
Missions, it truly is amazing. I

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01:44:59.000 --> 01:45:00.760
could go on for ever with you. We're going to split this into two

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01:45:00.840 --> 01:45:06.079
different uh two different interviews. Here
tell people where they can find out about

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01:45:06.119 --> 01:45:12.880
what you're doing at Frontline Missions s
a dot org and uh work, is

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01:45:12.920 --> 01:45:15.800
that the best place for them finding
You've got so many different websites. I

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01:45:15.880 --> 01:45:18.840
think you've got like ten of them
here. We'll put them in the The

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bist one is the best one is
Frontline Mission is dot Frontline Mission is a

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dot on the back of our book. Frontline Mission is a is a short

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01:45:29.600 --> 01:45:33.680
for Secus, not missions. It's
Frontline Missions is a dot org. And

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01:45:34.880 --> 01:45:40.079
you'll find us on Facebook as well. Frontline Fellowship of the badge the sort

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01:45:40.119 --> 01:45:44.760
of word and you can see the
sort of word and above me that's our

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missions badge on the shields on the
wall and we've been going footage years.

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01:45:49.359 --> 01:45:55.399
You can email me at Pietera at
frontline dot org dot z a Peza at

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frontline dot org dot h. That's
my personal email, and you'll also see

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01:45:59.399 --> 01:46:03.159
I'm busy on Facebook as well.
We've got a bookshop. We provide a

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01:46:03.199 --> 01:46:08.000
lot of our books by email.
We've got ebooks, we've got prints on

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01:46:08.079 --> 01:46:11.800
demands. So even if our personal
service isn't behaving ourselves, we've still got

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01:46:11.840 --> 01:46:14.920
ways of getting the materials to people. We send out emails, we sell

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01:46:14.960 --> 01:46:18.319
out audio visuals on the Frontline Mission
SA dot org website. There's audio visuals,

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01:46:18.640 --> 01:46:25.920
presentations transforming terrorists into evangeli into evangelists. We've got on how to resist

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01:46:26.000 --> 01:46:29.880
Marcus bullying tactics, exposing the whole
cancel culture movement, which is nothing but

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01:46:30.039 --> 01:46:34.199
canceled Christianity. That's the whole goal
of canceled cultures communism, and its goal

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01:46:34.319 --> 01:46:38.640
is canceled Christianity. That's the only
thing that makes sense to the whole agenda.

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And of course I've lived through several
revolutions, so I've worked in thirty

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eight countries. I've traveled in forty
two countries. I've worked in thirty eight

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countries, including eight wars. I've
gone through three revolutions. I've been in

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01:46:50.439 --> 01:46:57.840
prisons multiple times in communist countries and
arrested Muslim country as well, and I've

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got the stories in my book Frontline
Honey, Allies for Christ. We've got

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01:47:01.399 --> 01:47:05.960
audio visuals on our websites and articles
on many of these issues that we're dealing

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01:47:06.000 --> 01:47:10.720
with. Videos that people can see. I hope to produce sedanh Head and

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01:47:10.760 --> 01:47:15.039
Holocaust and terrorism and persecution films which
expose a lot of what is going on

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01:47:15.159 --> 01:47:19.199
in the field. And you can
see videos on our website that even show

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01:47:19.279 --> 01:47:25.640
some of the imprisonments and some of
the announcements on the news broadcast about our

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01:47:25.640 --> 01:47:30.199
imprisonments and testimies of some of the
combat that we're involved in. It first.

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So that's all available on the Frontline
Mission Essay dot org website. I'd

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love to hear from some of the
listeners and viewers. Yes, and so

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your workers. We always need workers, We need volunteers, and have people

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01:47:42.760 --> 01:47:45.319
interested in short term ministry or long
term ministry and would like to come and

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01:47:45.640 --> 01:47:49.479
volunteer at the time. We have
training programs here like the Great Commission Course

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01:47:50.000 --> 01:47:55.800
enable people to learn Muslim evangelism firsthand
in a peaceful area like Cape Town,

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01:47:56.000 --> 01:48:00.720
where it's legal before we attempt to
send anyone out. But we're in a

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port city that's cosmopolitan and people can
practice evangelism here. So we use Cape

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01:48:05.319 --> 01:48:09.319
Ton as a training base for the
Great Commission. Course, have the people

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01:48:09.399 --> 01:48:14.359
hiking up and down table Mountain and
getting fit night hicks, Bible smuggling drills

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01:48:14.439 --> 01:48:17.199
in the forest at night. We've
got hunter teams and we've got smuggling teams,

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01:48:17.279 --> 01:48:21.880
and if people are interested in ministering
and restricted accessories, we've got the

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01:48:21.920 --> 01:48:25.880
experience of fort each years. And
we'd love to train more people because I

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01:48:25.920 --> 01:48:29.239
believe this is the way we will
fulfill the Great Commission and we will defeat

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01:48:29.319 --> 01:48:32.640
any of the enemies, is by
getting into these areas and winning these people

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01:48:32.720 --> 01:48:38.600
to Christ. And many are wide
open and hungry and disillusioned. And the

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gospel is powerful. In fact,
as I heard in Sudan a man set

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01:48:42.560 --> 01:48:45.600
after we've got bombed, the Bibles
of the Christians are more powerful than the

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01:48:45.640 --> 01:48:48.199
bombs of the Muslims. And it's
true. Yes, that's amazing. Now

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01:48:48.399 --> 01:48:53.439
let me just repeat one more thing
your book that's about your life experiences there

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01:48:53.720 --> 01:48:58.439
front lines, behind enemy. What
was it Frontline, Behind Enemy Lines for

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01:48:58.520 --> 01:49:00.760
crist Behind Enemy Lines for Christ.
Yeah. This is also prints on the

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01:49:00.800 --> 01:49:04.279
moder An ebook. Okay, go
ahead. That picture on the front is

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me in the Nuba Mountains. But
you've got four hundred and forty pictures.

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It's a very well illustrated book with
thoughts of what's going on in the field.

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01:49:14.760 --> 01:49:17.560
So you know, if people are
interested this, this will give them

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01:49:17.880 --> 01:49:23.960
an instance into what goes on in
these areas. And well, I'm definitely

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01:49:24.039 --> 01:49:28.039
interested. I'm definitely interested. I'm
gonna have to yes, Thank you so

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01:49:28.199 --> 01:49:32.439
much. It is fantastic talking to
you again. A frontline mission SA dot

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01:49:32.640 --> 01:49:35.319
org and that'll be kind of your
entry point there. We'll have some of

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01:49:35.359 --> 01:49:40.359
these links in the videos when we
put them up as well. So thank

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01:49:40.399 --> 01:49:43.800
you so much for joining us.
Doctor Peter Hammond, I appreciate it's been

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01:49:43.840 --> 01:49:45.880
amazing to talk to you. Thank
you so much. Thank you, David

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01:49:45.960 --> 01:49:50.119
not appreciate the opportunity. God bless
America, Thank you, God bless you.

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01:50:01.079 --> 01:50:09.239
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