WEBVTT 1 00:00:34.759 --> 00:00:46.479 Man, people are upset about the Old Valley situation with aren't they. Somebody 2 00:00:46.520 --> 00:00:49.920 tweeted the other day they said, it's time to do right by your fans, 3 00:00:50.399 --> 00:00:54.359 especially those depending on Bali Sports. Lift the blackouts already. It's a 4 00:00:54.359 --> 00:00:59.439 blackout with Exfanity. The contract is with Exfinity. That's that's part of the 5 00:00:59.479 --> 00:01:03.600 issue. And then there's others who just think, well, I'm not in 6 00:01:03.679 --> 00:01:06.400 TV. I know how to handle this. Here's what you do. Just 7 00:01:06.400 --> 00:01:08.840 put him on regular television. That's not the way it works, man. 8 00:01:10.519 --> 00:01:12.439 It's not just simple as just well, let's just flick a switch. They 9 00:01:12.439 --> 00:01:19.719 can't put put on there, so let's go broadcast on Channel four Detroit or 10 00:01:19.799 --> 00:01:23.680 Channel eight and Grand Rapids. Nope, it's not the way it works. 11 00:01:23.719 --> 00:01:30.799 Man. It's surprising to me that people are in this business and they just 12 00:01:30.840 --> 00:01:36.599 don't get it. Welcome to the second hour of Exus and Bros. Here 13 00:01:36.599 --> 00:01:38.799 on the Michigan Sports Network throughout the Great State of Michigan. Bottom of the 14 00:01:38.799 --> 00:01:44.799 hour, we will replay our interview with Ben Raven from m Live in case 15 00:01:44.840 --> 00:01:48.799 you missed it. He joined us yesterday. We'll play it again today for 16 00:01:48.879 --> 00:01:52.719 those of you who didn't get a chance to listen in and at eight thirty 17 00:01:52.760 --> 00:01:57.280 five, James Edwards of the Athletic will join us as well. In case 18 00:01:57.319 --> 00:02:01.239 you missed it, last night beat Vegas on ice three to two. They 19 00:02:01.319 --> 00:02:07.000 lead that series, and Edmonton eliminated the Kings for a third consecutive season four 20 00:02:07.039 --> 00:02:12.719 to three, the final there in favor of the Oilers. We know already 21 00:02:12.800 --> 00:02:19.719 that Tampa has been eliminated from the Stanley Cup playoffs. The question is down 22 00:02:19.759 --> 00:02:24.360 in Tampa, at least while they're talking hockey anyway, what do you do 23 00:02:24.439 --> 00:02:31.560 with Captain Steven Stamcos he has spent sixteen years in Tampa. He will be 24 00:02:31.639 --> 00:02:38.599 a free agent right now this summer and will get, no doubt a ton 25 00:02:38.840 --> 00:02:46.599 of interest from other teams. How would he fit with the Red Wings? 26 00:02:47.919 --> 00:02:53.879 I think it's a fair discussion. Not sure how many people want a thirty 27 00:02:53.879 --> 00:03:01.800 four year old he can still play, man, can still play. Where 28 00:03:01.800 --> 00:03:13.280 would he fit well? Toronto may believes our team for sure Florida. If 29 00:03:13.319 --> 00:03:17.319 he wants to stay in Florida and not and Tampa isn't the right fit for 30 00:03:17.439 --> 00:03:25.120 him, then that's a possibility. And people have speculated Detroit, and for 31 00:03:25.199 --> 00:03:30.800 good reason see Others have said, well, maybe Utah is a good fit. 32 00:03:30.120 --> 00:03:37.800 I don't know. Man, he wants to win, who gives him 33 00:03:37.800 --> 00:03:42.520 a chance to win? Maybe this is home cooking on my part, completely 34 00:03:42.599 --> 00:03:47.400 open to that criticism because I think the Red Wings should have made the playoffs 35 00:03:47.400 --> 00:03:52.159 this year, and I think they're they're on that bend if they stay healthy 36 00:03:52.520 --> 00:03:55.520 to do just that. Do they need certain pieces? Yes? Is Steven 37 00:03:55.599 --> 00:04:00.680 Stamcos one of those pieces. You could always use more ska, but you'd 38 00:04:00.759 --> 00:04:05.000 rather them focus on the blue line or in net, wouldn't you. Absolutely. 39 00:04:05.319 --> 00:04:08.520 I'm not saying they're going to go out and get Connor Hollibuck, but 40 00:04:09.039 --> 00:04:14.439 they need somebody who can stop the puck a little bit more consistently. Anyway, 41 00:04:14.479 --> 00:04:17.319 I read an article the other day about this, and here's what they 42 00:04:17.360 --> 00:04:24.040 had to say about the red Wings chances. It said projected cap space twenty 43 00:04:24.120 --> 00:04:28.040 nine million, which surprised me because I didn't think it was quite that high. 44 00:04:28.040 --> 00:04:31.519 Anyway, they said, Steve Eiserman's team just narrowly missed the playoffs, 45 00:04:33.040 --> 00:04:38.560 and this upcoming offseason seems like a pivotabal moment for the red Wings rebuild. 46 00:04:39.560 --> 00:04:46.120 Bringing in Stamcos would help infuse a championship culture into a locker room that hasn't 47 00:04:46.160 --> 00:04:48.759 seen the postseason since twenty sixteen. So let me just stop right there for 48 00:04:48.800 --> 00:05:00.959 a moment. Infuse a championship culture. I've talked about this before. There 49 00:05:01.000 --> 00:05:08.079 are guys who have played on championships Olimada, Patrick Kane this past year, 50 00:05:09.680 --> 00:05:15.480 and guys who've made the playoffs plenty. It's not a championship culture necessary. 51 00:05:15.600 --> 00:05:23.879 That's missing. It's talent on the blue line and defensive talent up front too, 52 00:05:23.959 --> 00:05:29.639 because, as we all know, it's defense isn't only by the two 53 00:05:29.639 --> 00:05:35.199 defensemen who are on the ice at the time. It continued and said Stamcos 54 00:05:35.240 --> 00:05:40.879 could also add some offensive pop that was lacking at the top of Detroit's lineup 55 00:05:41.079 --> 00:05:44.639 in twenty twenty three, twenty four, with the exception of a few key 56 00:05:44.680 --> 00:05:50.720 players. Fair Enough, I think that's an excellent point. They still need 57 00:05:50.759 --> 00:05:58.120 to score goals, we think, not necessarily. You I'm just I used 58 00:05:58.240 --> 00:06:03.959 we as a generality. Okay, First of all, can Steven Stamkos's let's 59 00:06:04.000 --> 00:06:10.560 address you know, one thing at a time here, Can Steven Stamkos still 60 00:06:10.600 --> 00:06:15.040 score you? Damn right? He can't without a doubt, he's still especially 61 00:06:16.000 --> 00:06:19.560 on the power play. Now, is he Nikita kutcher Off on his team? 62 00:06:19.680 --> 00:06:25.360 No, but kutcher Off that won the scoring title. Is he braiding 63 00:06:25.439 --> 00:06:29.959 point? Not quite. He's still pretty damn good. He still had eighty 64 00:06:30.000 --> 00:06:35.920 one points. He still had forty goals this year. Forty goals would have 65 00:06:36.040 --> 00:06:44.000 led the Red Wings for crying out loud. So he can still play now 66 00:06:44.040 --> 00:06:47.399 the ice time, Yeah, that's up to coach Lauran to figure that out. 67 00:06:47.439 --> 00:06:53.839 And he's familiar with him, so that's a plus. Right. So 68 00:06:54.519 --> 00:06:58.759 the question is, look at age thirty four, You guy's got to be 69 00:06:58.800 --> 00:07:03.319 committed, and he's sure seen like he would be committed. Absolutely, So 70 00:07:03.399 --> 00:07:06.720 it makes a ton of sense. I think. Can he still get goals? 71 00:07:08.040 --> 00:07:14.480 No question about it. Does this team need goals, no question about 72 00:07:14.480 --> 00:07:21.600 that either. We think, based on the regular season numbers, based up 73 00:07:21.600 --> 00:07:26.560 from a year ago, that this team is a really good offensive team. 74 00:07:26.920 --> 00:07:30.439 And they are they finished what top half? They're not Colorado, They're not 75 00:07:30.519 --> 00:07:39.519 Toronto. Toronto could be eliminated tonight. Colorado's advanced, Dallas is leading, 76 00:07:40.079 --> 00:07:45.120 Edmonton is there, Tampa, Vancouver, New York, Carolina, all those 77 00:07:45.199 --> 00:07:49.600 teams better in goals for during the regular season than the Red Wings all in 78 00:07:49.639 --> 00:07:54.160 the playoffs. Now here's what you might say, Well, wait a minute, 79 00:07:54.199 --> 00:08:00.720 shot Nashville, Florida, Boston, Vegas, Jets, Kings all right 80 00:08:00.759 --> 00:08:09.600 behind Detroit and they didn't make the playoffs fair enough defensively or maybe special teams 81 00:08:09.600 --> 00:08:13.879 wise, Like, what do you think the difference between the Oilers and Kings 82 00:08:13.879 --> 00:08:18.639 series was. I'll tell you what it was. It was special teams. 83 00:08:18.560 --> 00:08:22.959 And Edmonton had another power play goal last night. They had nine overall in 84 00:08:22.959 --> 00:08:26.079 the series. But when I bring up those teams Winnipeg, La, Florida, 85 00:08:26.720 --> 00:08:35.399 Boston, know this, All those teams, led by Florida best in 86 00:08:35.519 --> 00:08:50.799 goals against Detroit's bottom half. There no team below Detroit in goals against made 87 00:08:50.799 --> 00:09:00.320 the postseason. Tampa was barely above them and they made the playoffs. So 88 00:09:00.399 --> 00:09:03.879 does Detroit need it? Yeah, you can always use like I said, 89 00:09:03.919 --> 00:09:07.639 you can always use more scoring. But defensively, that's where they have to 90 00:09:07.639 --> 00:09:13.279 get better. Is Steven Stamkos viewed as a better defensive forward than a lot 91 00:09:13.279 --> 00:09:20.399 of guys that they have not really anyway. So the article continued and said, 92 00:09:20.519 --> 00:09:24.039 this potential marriage may come down to the length of the contract. That's 93 00:09:24.080 --> 00:09:30.399 always key, how much you're willing to give him and over how many years. 94 00:09:31.320 --> 00:09:37.000 That's the hard part with teams who haven't made the playoffs for eight years, 95 00:09:37.480 --> 00:09:41.879 and many who feel like they're not ready to turn the corner yet attracting 96 00:09:41.919 --> 00:09:45.679 a guy like that, that's what they mean by overpaying. It's not always 97 00:09:45.720 --> 00:09:50.759 in money, it's in years. Two What would you give a guy like 98 00:09:50.799 --> 00:09:56.679 Steven Stamkos number one, number two? If you're willing to give it to 99 00:09:56.759 --> 00:10:03.799 him? Why not? Why not? Patrick Kine? Those guys want multi 100 00:10:03.919 --> 00:10:09.360 year deals, and I don't blame them. Are you willing to commit a 101 00:10:09.399 --> 00:10:16.240 long term deal to a thirty four year old forward or a short term deal? 102 00:10:16.759 --> 00:10:20.639 What do you consider short term deal? Two years, three years? 103 00:10:22.759 --> 00:10:24.639 Guys in hockey can play a long time if they could stay healthy, and 104 00:10:24.679 --> 00:10:31.919 Stampcos has had some injuries. What would be the max that you would give 105 00:10:31.960 --> 00:10:37.399 him? Meyer hotlines open for you eight sixty six, eight three, eight 106 00:10:37.519 --> 00:10:41.720 forty eight forty three you could tech sports radio to twenty one thousand. Bottom 107 00:10:41.720 --> 00:10:45.519 of the hour, we'll replay our interview from yesterday with Ben Raven eight thirty 108 00:10:45.559 --> 00:10:50.360 five. 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When 125 00:12:30.240 --> 00:12:35.759 you were a basketball announcer for University of Michigan, was Dave Brandon the athletic 126 00:12:35.799 --> 00:12:39.720 directors, Then it started with Bill Martin, and then it went to David 127 00:12:39.759 --> 00:12:48.519 Brandon. Yes, which one hired John Beeline, Bill Martin. Bill Martin 128 00:12:48.559 --> 00:12:52.000 did, Okay. The reason I'm calling is and I hope I'll try to 129 00:12:52.039 --> 00:12:54.399 talk as fast as I can so I can don't worry about it. Eight 130 00:12:54.559 --> 00:12:58.960 quaer can no worry? Wow, take your time. Dave. My friend, 131 00:13:00.759 --> 00:13:05.200 well, my lifetime best friend passed away of cancer in two thousand and 132 00:13:05.320 --> 00:13:11.080 thirteen. And I was a Michigan season ticket holder and my friend was a 133 00:13:11.120 --> 00:13:18.159 Michigan fan. And I wrote Dave Brandon a long letter on email and asked 134 00:13:18.200 --> 00:13:22.879 we were having an outing for him to raise money because he was a self 135 00:13:22.879 --> 00:13:28.559 business owner and he was hirving a hard time making a living. And Dave 136 00:13:28.399 --> 00:13:35.799 was nice enough to send a hat signed by him. He sent I asked 137 00:13:35.840 --> 00:13:39.960 him if he could send the picture, and he sent the picture with his 138 00:13:41.039 --> 00:13:43.720 signature on it. We had a frame and a couple other things like a 139 00:13:43.720 --> 00:13:48.200 T shirt and stuff, and I of course sent them to send them back 140 00:13:48.240 --> 00:13:52.320 and thanked them for everything well. And then I sent him also back after 141 00:13:52.480 --> 00:13:56.639 the outing was over was and thanked them again an email. And I could 142 00:13:56.639 --> 00:14:00.240 tell these were his emails because he wasn't been like me. He had a 143 00:14:00.240 --> 00:14:03.240 hard time sleep in the middle night. They were like two thirty three thirty 144 00:14:03.279 --> 00:14:09.600 at night. And so when my friend passed away in twenty thirteen, two 145 00:14:09.679 --> 00:14:15.600 years later, I wrote again to Dave and thanked him for all he did 146 00:14:15.759 --> 00:14:22.039 and sent him a nice card thanking him and told him my friend had passed 147 00:14:22.039 --> 00:14:28.919 away. And he wrote me two or three more times on email and told 148 00:14:28.919 --> 00:14:33.440 me he was a cancer survivor. And I knew that because he's about three 149 00:14:33.519 --> 00:14:37.279 or four years younger than me. And I remember him when he played foot 150 00:14:37.320 --> 00:14:41.159 bowl because I could back in them days when I had more of a mind 151 00:14:41.200 --> 00:14:45.080 than I do now, I could remember every player on the team. And 152 00:14:45.559 --> 00:14:48.919 what I'm trying to say that he got such a bad rap, especially from 153 00:14:50.000 --> 00:14:54.679 the guys at WTKA, and I won't mention the names. Everybody knows who 154 00:14:54.720 --> 00:14:58.000 they are. And I wrote them a letter to saying what he did for 155 00:14:58.320 --> 00:15:03.679 my friend and myself as a friend. And they're trying to tell me that 156 00:15:05.240 --> 00:15:07.720 I didn't know the whole story, and I probably don't know the wholes. 157 00:15:07.799 --> 00:15:09.639 All I know is the man was nice to me, and I would I 158 00:15:09.679 --> 00:15:13.559 would speak good about him the rest of my life. And I know you 159 00:15:13.639 --> 00:15:16.519 probably know him. I don't really know him personally. I just know him 160 00:15:16.519 --> 00:15:20.559 as somebody that wrote me back at two three thirty in the morning and made 161 00:15:20.600 --> 00:15:24.279 a way out of it being friendly to me. Yeah, well forgive that 162 00:15:24.399 --> 00:15:28.759 from him. Yeah, well that's Look, this is what happens anytime you 163 00:15:28.879 --> 00:15:33.519 come in contact with person. That's why I was just talking about this with 164 00:15:33.600 --> 00:15:37.960 somebody yesterday. They were talking about certain race car drivers. They were asking 165 00:15:39.120 --> 00:15:43.080 about athletes and who athletes make an impression on you and how do you form 166 00:15:43.120 --> 00:15:46.639 those impressions, And we have had a pretty deep conversation. We have to 167 00:15:46.679 --> 00:15:52.000 remember sometimes when we run into athletes or general managers or coaches or managers whomever, 168 00:15:52.759 --> 00:15:58.919 sometimes celebrities. We may be catching them at an off day. It's 169 00:15:58.960 --> 00:16:02.240 tough to be on all all the time. You know, it's tough to 170 00:16:02.320 --> 00:16:06.840 be the person you want to be all the time because things happen in people's 171 00:16:06.879 --> 00:16:10.600 lives that we're just not always familiar with. Obviously, he's made an impression 172 00:16:10.600 --> 00:16:15.960 on you because more than once, so that tells you something about the man, 173 00:16:15.840 --> 00:16:19.919 at least when it comes to your situation. I don't blame you. 174 00:16:21.279 --> 00:16:23.120 I'm not going to try and change your opinion even if I had a different 175 00:16:23.159 --> 00:16:27.679 opinion about David Brandon to you, because first of all, that it's not 176 00:16:27.840 --> 00:16:33.639 fair. Second of all, you have this impression, and it's the rightful 177 00:16:33.639 --> 00:16:40.440 impression because of what he would the time he took for you, And I 178 00:16:40.440 --> 00:16:42.320 would say this, and thanks for the phone call. I'm sorry you lost 179 00:16:42.360 --> 00:16:48.639 your best friend. That's heartbreaking. I would say this to anybody. I 180 00:16:48.679 --> 00:16:57.120 say this to my kids all the time too. Time is very valuable in 181 00:16:57.200 --> 00:17:02.320 anybody's life. Can you take that This is why it's important for us. 182 00:17:03.000 --> 00:17:07.039 This is much smaller scale. I get it, it's just a talk show, 183 00:17:07.359 --> 00:17:11.440 but you take the time to call. That's taking time out of your 184 00:17:11.519 --> 00:17:18.559 day to listen to us and have the guts to call in and express your 185 00:17:18.559 --> 00:17:22.519 opinions. You deserve to be heard. I'm not going to rush you off 186 00:17:22.599 --> 00:17:29.759 the phone. It's not fair, it's not right. Dave Brannon took the 187 00:17:29.839 --> 00:17:36.680 time to email you more than once, took the time to actually heed to 188 00:17:36.759 --> 00:17:42.799 what you had requested for your friend. I would never forget that either, 189 00:17:44.559 --> 00:17:48.559 And to me, if I were in your shoes, I would always feel 190 00:17:48.599 --> 00:17:56.400 obligated and honored in that situation, because not everybody does that. Do you 191 00:17:56.440 --> 00:18:02.079 remember when you were a kid, Well, this is dating myself. When 192 00:18:02.119 --> 00:18:06.960 I was a kid, I used to write letters to certain players because they 193 00:18:06.960 --> 00:18:11.960 were my favorite players and I wanted something from them. I didn't care what 194 00:18:12.039 --> 00:18:18.640 it was, whoever that player may have been. If they sent something back, 195 00:18:19.240 --> 00:18:25.400 all that does is endear you more to the person who's making the request. 196 00:18:26.240 --> 00:18:30.279 It's not that hard, you know. I've been fortunate. There's a 197 00:18:30.319 --> 00:18:33.960 lot of people who have sent me letters and sent it to Comerica Park. 198 00:18:34.519 --> 00:18:41.920 Always wrote them back. Have to really important. It's just the right thing 199 00:18:42.000 --> 00:18:45.079 to do. Sometimes there's just the right thing to do. Sometimes I think 200 00:18:45.119 --> 00:18:48.920 we've lost that in our society. It's just a nice and the right thing 201 00:18:49.000 --> 00:18:55.839 to do. You can't I get guys like guys who are superstars, Guys 202 00:18:55.880 --> 00:18:57.920 like Mike Trout for example, Guys like show ayo time, they get it 203 00:18:57.960 --> 00:19:00.839 all the time. It's almost possible. You've gotta have somebody actually do that 204 00:19:02.000 --> 00:19:06.400 for you because you're trying to, you know, play a baseball game every 205 00:19:06.440 --> 00:19:11.559 single day. It's impossible to do that, it really is. But a 206 00:19:11.599 --> 00:19:15.200 guy like David Brandon in your situation, yeah, I mean, that was 207 00:19:15.240 --> 00:19:18.720 the right thing to do, and kudos to him. Not everybody has the 208 00:19:18.720 --> 00:19:26.839 same experience. Not everybody knows him the same way. That doesn't make him 209 00:19:27.680 --> 00:19:36.200 a bad guy if it comes in a different form of a relationship. I 210 00:19:36.240 --> 00:19:41.480 can't say that I had that same experience, that same relationship with David Brandon. 211 00:19:42.759 --> 00:19:51.680 We knew each other obviously, but I enjoyed my time. There are 212 00:19:51.720 --> 00:20:00.160 certain certain things that happen with athletic directors that kind of stick out with you, 213 00:20:00.039 --> 00:20:04.359 you as a representative of a university. So I'll just give you a 214 00:20:04.400 --> 00:20:11.960 quick thought. We were at the Big Ten tournament and we're getting ready to 215 00:20:11.960 --> 00:20:15.000 do a broadcast. Usually, I mean Bill Martin would always come up, 216 00:20:15.039 --> 00:20:21.359 how you guys doing always always say hello? Right? Or manually did the 217 00:20:21.400 --> 00:20:26.119 same thing when he was when I was calling games at Michigan and he was 218 00:20:26.119 --> 00:20:30.799 in charge, David Brandon didn't do that. We're at the Big Ten tournament 219 00:20:30.759 --> 00:20:34.599 and you're going, wait a minute, you're talking to everybody but your home 220 00:20:36.200 --> 00:20:41.759 broadcasting team, which was a little surprising at Mark Hollis in Michigan State, 221 00:20:41.799 --> 00:20:45.279 who was actually at at the tournament. He's the one who came over and 222 00:20:45.319 --> 00:20:49.000 said hello to us, Michigan State ad, which was a little surprising to 223 00:20:49.119 --> 00:20:53.319 us. When we come back. 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