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Hello, everybody, Welcome back to
Hyperblast here on that's non metal today.

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I am not just by myself today. I have voices with me. Last

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week, as you may have listened
to, was my report from a Fortress

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Festival, the up and coming black
metal festival in the north of this country

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that had a very lovely time last
week. We are really as this show

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is going to kind of attest to
summer is properly heating up with lots of

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live music stuff. That's gonna be
a lot of what we're going to talk

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about over next weeks. I guess
obviously right now it is download festival,

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so some of you might be hearing
this kind of you know, in several

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days time, having returned from that
hope that was jolly. But sitting here

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with me who you know have also
been at big shows. We've got Sam

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Dignon and we've got Mark Sanderson as
well. All right, mate, I'm

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I'm doing good. I'm knackered,
but fresh off of raving about bon Jovi's

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Forever album, Mark Sanderson here album
of the year. Don't tell you otherwise.

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Kiss the Bride is the song of
the century. Yeah, Mark's voice

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is one that you you may hear
slightly more often on on the Hyperblast because

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Elliott is a busy boy and Mark's
popping in here. But this week,

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of all weeks you have you know, been around, We're gonna throw to

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Sam first of all, because another
the live event of like the century,

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if you literally, like the biggest
tour of our lifetime pretty much like like

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not even in terms of like media
and sales and everything it basically is.

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But you know, I'm sure that
lots of you listening probably listened to like

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outlets like us in order to get
away from the likes of Taylor Swift.

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And I am very much kind of
at the end of my tether in terms

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of the Taylor Swift media exposure.
However, in a strange twist of fate,

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the Era's tour in the UK particularly
was made to be very TNM relevant.

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Sam. I'm sure you would have
gone anyway, because you are Oh.

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I would have tried to get tickets
regardless, Yes, yeah, But

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as it happened, not only did
you go to see Taylor Swift in Edinburgh

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it was, but you happen to
see, you know, both of our

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Band of the Year for twenty twenty
three on the Awards, Paramore supported for

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them, and I guess it's very
strange to see Paramore supporting anyone anymore.

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I think Taylor Swift is literally the
only person in the world who Paramore would

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open for. So, you know, how was that novel experience seeing,

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you know, one of our kind
of firm festival headliner type bands are opening

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a stadium show at like the biggest
tour ever. I mean it was kind

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of like, oh god, there
are levels to like stardom. There are

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like, yeah, Paramore, like
they are one of our biggest bands.

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They are like but love they will
sell out arenas and and all that.

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But in terms of like they've got
it, and like I'm gonna say,

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they've got a really good reception.
Actually, the Swifties were up for it,

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which was really nice to see after
the TikTok Swifties, who were like,

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you've only got one song and they're
not even playing it at the start.

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Yeah, But the funny thing is, I wasn't even something got the

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best reaction of the night, Like, like genuinely it was surprising, But

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Taylor Swift is on another level at
this stage, like kind of ridiculous to

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see one of our bat one of
our biggest bands, dwarfed in comparison,

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but the most famous person in the
world, So it's fair. What I

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will say is God Paramore were just
cementing their position as one of our very

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best bands we've got who like I've
come await one of my bigges takeaways come

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from from you. This was like
they could do a stadium show themselves,

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surely, Like it's gonna be something
that you reckon. So do you reckon

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if they did like a one off, like a one or ones in London

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or yeah, someone like that.
I felt like they could because I mean

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they sold out, was it two
nights at the other arena? That's not

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far off than a smaller stadium.
You know, they've now just had this

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show supporting the biggest star in the
world, and I'm sure they would have,

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at least across this era's tour been
able to you know, win over

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a handful of the seventy thousand odd
people at night cramming into these stadiums,

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So that's a possibility. They looked
so at ease on a stage that's us

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And again, well you know you
have like big stadium stages. This is

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one of like the most ridiculously sized
stages I've ever seen at alive. So

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because it's like there was like the
stage and then there is a like eager

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rap that comes to the middle of
there's a there's a big stage in the

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middle, and then there's no that
extent forward from there with another stage about

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two thirds of the way back like
huge stage, and again like that's all

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that's used because various points of the
Eras tour really funny video power more like

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so they actually kind of had to
choreograph using a stage this size because they've

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never been there but been on something
this big before, so they were like

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make sure everyone could get their moments
when they would come forward. But yeah,

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so like seeing that, like them
having to like kind of spread across

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this like mammoth stage with like members
on like different parts of it, Zach

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all at the back for the entire
time. Like but they they came on

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and just looked so natural, open
with hard times, which like a really

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good kind of like way to get
a more casual crowd on side, because

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you know, it's a big,
catchy popstorf. Essentially, Yeah, did

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that that was all at the very
backstage, and then they sort of came

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down to the middle and from that
middle stage where they like it's like a

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diamond, so aged the members come
to a different point of it. They

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went into their Burning down the House
cover, which like that cover is so

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much fun at this point, like
and it really I was like, well,

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like, okay, we kind of
comment like putting that on a tour

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with their support in like tens to
a lot of those Testison probably never even

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heard of the talking heads like bold
choice. But again, because it was

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just such a like bubbly fun cover, it really won people over it.

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And when like towards the end of
it, Hailey is voguing her way back

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up the stage to get to rejoin
the rest of the band, I was

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like, this is the best thing
ever. I'm having the best time already

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and Italian come on. Still into
You was what got the best reception of

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the night. I went fucking mental
for that, which was really great.

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And again, how can you not
it is like a perfect pop song.

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Yeah, I mean a decade ago
that was a fairly unavoidable song. Yeah,

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and I think that was it is
That was one that like really got

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people great. The middle part of
the set was where they lost a chunk

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of the crowd because when they went
to like Forgiveness and told so some of

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the slower like stuff off, God, what's the album after laughter, I

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was abou fa, no, that's
the song on it. But yeah,

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like when they went out was I
was. I really liked seeing those songs

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live actually, but they definitely weren't
the most kind of like immediate attention grabbing

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sort of things for the For the
Swifties, they did do. The only

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exception which I'm not a fan of, but when they've come when Hailey and

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Tall have come right down to the
stage which are like the very first point

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of the stage, which I was
quite near, and like they were singing

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it to each other and it was
really remarked. I was like, oh,

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you know what, I'm I'm swept
up in the moment of this and

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a perfect song to play for again
a big pop stadium crowd, like yeah,

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absolutely, yeah, And it was
another one everyone was singing because again

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really simple chorus. They got everyone
singing along. And then it was the

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best plot of the whole thing for
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Hailey Williams getting the entire stage of
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was like, yes, it's such
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oh, itsil of Paramol. And
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just heard two stepping across the stage. I was like, only first Taylor

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Swift corn so I swear to God, but it fucking ruled title track of

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This Is Why to close out,
like absolutely brilliant. Just one of those

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was like again like a decent exports
where they played for like forty five minutes,

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like nine songs, so they really
like you still got your money's workrom

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Seeing Paramore, I would say like
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like it was kind of a moment
like yeah, okay, they are not,

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you know, the biggest ups star
in the world, but it was

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one of those most was like I
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not like immediately, but on the
next app cycle if it goes well,

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I'd loved him. Give it a
shot, because they're selling out arenas

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super fast at this point, or
at least get them you know, headlining

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download or reading actually like top of
the bill by themselves at the big festivals.

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Like that's the thing the very least
I would expect from param On the

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next cycle, because they are just
that damn good. The live band they've

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got at the moment, the lineup
they've settled on for this tour so good,

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Like they are so together, even
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members, the kind of the back
man they've got all seem to be really

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engaged and and like there's a real
nice chemistry between all the members, which

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again just feels like when I first
saw Paramore back right before the lineup sort

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first started imploding and you could see
them visibly or hating each other on age.

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It was so nice. It's going
to be like this kind of change

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panel. They are having so much
fun just playing together, and it was

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just really good. And then Taylor
Swift came on and played a massive three

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hour set that was incredible from one
of the most ridiculous live shows I've seen.

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And I won't buy it for that
because again, as Parent says,

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you're probably all sick of hearing about
it. Yeah, but there you go.

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I'm going to hear more about that
later on Mark. Meanwhile, you

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were at I'm going to say an
even bigger event. Tell us Mark about

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what you were doing sort of this
past weekend or whenever it was happening.

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So while Sam was heading to Scotland, I was deserting, abandoning your post.

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I know. I hope you kept
it safe. I kept it rocking,

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thank you so much. I headed
over to Finland to see the No

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Repeat to the Metallica double Night the
Big Payer in Helsinki with my one of

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my best mates, our mutual friend
Nathan shout Out, and it might have

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been the most rocking thing I've ever
done. First of all, just Helsinki

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is just for the sort of the
weekend because it was the two nights Friday

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Sunday, the whole city just becomes
sort of like Metallica town. Yeah,

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there was the pop up shop.
There's lots of stuff about Helsinki doesn't take

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much convincing to take. No.
Yeah, it seems like just a very

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casual, like metal head place.
I think Finland has the most like per

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percentage people who are into metal or
people who are in Yeah, we got

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to the stadium. We missed Wolfgang
Bang Heilen's band, who were on First

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Architects right now, obviously because of
the controversy, I'm sort of at my

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lowest enthusiasm level for architects ever a
band I do generally consider myself a big

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fan of. But I thought,
fuck it, they're here, they're in

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front of me, They're gonna be
playing songs I do enjoy. I hope

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I enjoy it. And it was, to be honest, a bit lackluster.

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The new songs. I don't know. Maybe it's because I just don't

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know them as well. They just
sort of landed like a wet fart.

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The band didn't really put that much
energy into it. Maybe they're not used

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to playing a stadium. You know. I still love singing along to Doomsday,

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I still love Black Lungs. I
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But compared to the supports on the
second night, it wasn't that great.

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A bit let down by Architects.
I was stood up all day and my

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legs were in agony. I was
grumpy. I was like, oh God,

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we were stood quite near the front. But then next to sy of

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Gold comes on and suddenly my whole
night is a blur. The way that

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the show works is it's basically just
a circular stage in the middle of this

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stadium. Yeah, and we picked
our spot. We managed to get quite

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into the front, but we picked
the spot because when we walked in it

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was the only place that had shade, wasn't in the sun, and it

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turned out to be perfect because that's
where Metallica were for the first few songs,

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which, by the way, we're
Creeping Death, Harvester of Sorrow,

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Lebra Messiah, and King Nothing.
They're looking at the setlist for both nights.

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They're structured very similarly in terms of
like they do an opening run and

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then they put like a a seven
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and then you know, kind of
it it goes They've got an instrumental

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song in the same place, it
goes in a fairly you know, you

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could you can imagine what they're going
to be. But those opening runs,

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like you say, Creeping out after
a Sorrow, le Masiah, King Nothing

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into Lucks of Turner on that first
night, which is like a complete fucking

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banger, and then on the second
night, which you're gonna get to as

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well, Whiplash for whom the Bell
tolls, Ride the Lightning Until It Sleeps

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into the Statle track Aercent two Seasons, which again is one of the better

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songs on it. You'd be flying
for the opening fucking twenty minutes or so,

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wouldn't you. Yeah, But this
was my first time seeing Metallica,

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obviously a lifelong Metallica fan, like
I imagine most people into metal are.

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But the first song I'm seeing being
Creeping Death James Hetfield is ten feet away

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from me, ten feet ten meters
away from me. I was lightheaded.

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I was so giddy. I felt
like a kid again. Especially Nathan and

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I are big load defenders, and
the whole time leading up to this we

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were like, I hope we get
some load songs. They usually don't.

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Blah blah blah. Track four,
King Nothing starts and I start screaming,

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and that was probably the highlight of
my life. I'm watching King Nothing,

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robter Heels Crab walking over there looking
at me, throwing the horns at me.

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It was amazing. I saw Nathan
soul Leaver's body when Fade to Black

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started, which just it was just
magical. And then you get to the

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closing I guess, last half of
the set flipp Andel Oryan nothing else matters,

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sad but through blackened fuel Seeking Destroy
then Master of Puppets. And the

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thing about that set list is that
is explicitly a setus where they've left out

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half of their biggest songs for the
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could do a closing run like that. Specifically, when that is the case

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and you've left out half of the
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isn't it unbelievable? And black and
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giddy. It might be the best
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pure excitement. Yeah, I couldn't
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like I said, your your videos
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close, it looked like because again
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them in that kind of proximity,
I suppose, And you know, I

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really hope that whenever the next time
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I would like to get like a
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get us in there as I can. And it is that kind of you

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know, just I know that they
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for one reason or another, many
of which may be valid, but I

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think it is one of the things
where it comes down to it. You're

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in front of them playing those songs
and everything just flies out of the window,

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doesn't it. Everything just becomes like, yeah, this is like the

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mecha. Yeah, you become starstruck. It's like seeing a Pokemon in real

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life. As are the guys.
That's them, that's them actually there?

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how did it work with them? Because

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I know obviously when they do that
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also like I've never seen any other
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Lars, like his kit moves around, doesn't it, and like he plays

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different bits of the stage. It's
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and they just each drum kit revolves
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a good view of him. But
he'll just wander along to another bit of

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the stage. A new drum kit
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start playing the song on end.
He'll scream that's right, that's right.

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People's faces moved to another drum kit. Yeah up, closer person with Lars,

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not close enough. And then again, so that first night is particularly

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if it's like a first Metallica show
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sand Man, they've not played one
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again looking at you know that opening
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the the closing run towards the end
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the massive Megga conquering songs I should
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the second day. He also had
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you. Yeah, So the day
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a local rock bar called the Riff. Is this the one that had the

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children about him table? Yeah,
the hate Lounge, a little bit at

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the back of the bar, reserved
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the boys are in town. But
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you can use it as well.
And I we're just hanging out, you

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know, drinking overpriced drinks. Then
who, to our wandering eyes should appear

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But Chris Kle, like the squeak
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went up to him and started chatting. Got we got a picture with him,

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and to be fair, him and
the other guy I can't remember his

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name, which is bad. But
another guitarist, the new guitarist has come

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in recently, so I have no
idea who is either but yeah, to

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be fair, lovely guys. Seems
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members of five fingure Death Pines,
which when you consider that beid like we

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were saying, it's the members of
five thing at Death Punch who'd walk in

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he would maybe kind of want to
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the other ones. Yeah, the
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yeah, So there's pictures of me
that exist with members of five hundred Death

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Punch, and they were lovely and
they said the words rock on to us

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about four times each, and you
know what when we saw them, we

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did rock before the Death Punch fucking
decimated the stage. Though my favorus Icenin

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Kills were on yes in Firnis.
Yeah, and compared to Architects, so

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you would think would be better suited
to playing bigger stages. Icenan Kills killed

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it, in my opinion. They
filled the space so well. Course is

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like a grave mistake in American Nightmare. Just doing the mad Ead song,

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They were so great and they did
all the Spencer was doing all the shit,

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he was cutting up bodies. He
was being chased by zombies. He

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cut someone's arm off and he was
like waving it at people in the crowd

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who didn't know what was going on. Wonderful. I love that band five

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and a death punch. To be
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teenager, I was a fan.
I still am a fan of bits and

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pieces, mainly the older songs.
They killed it like the crowd were super

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into them. The crowd was first
pumping the entire time, and some of

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those songs are just undeniable hits,
and they know how to play ye stadium.

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Ivan Rudy was stomping around the stage
like a little toddler. My home

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with the Squid was flinging his beard
about. I had the best time ever

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watching under and over It, which
is a banger. You can all fuck

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off. You can suck my,
you could suck exists for me going absolutely

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like you can hear me screaming you
can suck my, And then at the

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end of that verse where he goes
fuck you, the music cuts out and

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I'm screaming that so loud that everyone
around us is turning to me, like

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looking at me, but in the
like yeah, this guy, you know,

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this guy gets it. This guy's
a knucklehead, this guy knows this

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quid. I had a lot of
fun, even though every second song was

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like one of the worst songs I've
ever heard. I guess it's a new

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one. Everyone was like, this
one's gone, Welcome to the Circus,

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And honestly, it was so funny. It's one of the worst songs I've

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heard in a while. But they
were great, I should say for this

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night. We were up in the
up in the seats. Yeah, two

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very different Metallica show views. Yeah, which is great because when Metallica We're

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playing the sun was on you.
You were watching the sunset, you were

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watching the call Cutulhu with this beautiful
background, and it was sort of magical.

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They have so many fucking songs like
you say, We're flashing for whom

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the bell tolls to red the lightning
into until it sleeps again? As two

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load maniacs there when until its sleep
started, I could have burst into tears.

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That it comes in the middle.
Oh mate, that might be my

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favorite moment of the whole show.
Screaming love is a for later word.

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This awhere, this sasswhere banger,
that is a banger that's a classic.

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I don't care who knows it.
I would think most people who would probably

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agree that The Day That Comes is
a of twenty first centry Metallica songs.

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It's it's the high point of the
album, isn't it. Really. I

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Mean, I'm a big fan of
all like meire Long as well, but

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I think if you were going to
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last twenty years of Metallica, I
mean, there's a reason that's one they

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still play you obviously, We're Moth
and to Flame from Hardware, Moth and

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to Flame third from last. It's
It's got a prime spot, isn't it.

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Sitting in that closing classic run,
I was like, yeah, fair

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enough, I'm happy to see you
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works really really well live. It's
just a monster. So in in you

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know, a weekend you you doubled
my Metallica show tally. I am,

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you know, tremendously hoping that download
wasn't just the only UK shows that they're

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doing for this thing, because they've
done like you know, Arena own headline

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shows basically everywhere else. Seemingly,
I am, you know, seriously hoping

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that I get a chance to do
what you've done, but you know,

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in this country, but yeah,
hell of a thing. And then I

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guess, you know, kind of
slightly more quickly because we've been there's a

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lot of live stuff that we've been
talking about. But you're rocking in and

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there did he because you were also, you know, in the following days

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the bit all the big rock shows
are happening right now, Weezer Pumpkins arenat

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all. Yeah, two bands.
I am a massive fan of Weezer,

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obviously, people who listen to this
podcast now maybe too big of a Weezer

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again. I was seated, devil
was on the balcony because those were the

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cheaper seats. Just that lovely like
lovely little time smiling away to Weezer.

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I've seen Weezer before. They played
most of the songs I saw them play

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before, apart from actually you know
what. They played the three three songs

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Sweet at the end of everything will
be all Right in the end. They

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played the first two songs of that
and it was sick. I never expected

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them to play that, and I
love that like Sweet. I wish they

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played the whole thing. That was
really cool to see and I'm not going

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to turn Down see sur Fax America. You know what I mean? Yeah,

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I mean a couple of things.
A couple of things on the setlest

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jump out to me. One of
them is a burnt jam with everybody get

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Dangerous chorus, which is pretty good. And also they I knew they were

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doing this, but they seem to
be covering celebrity skin by hole along this

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entire run for some fucking reason.
Billy Corgan connection, I guess, I

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don't know, just an idea that
Rivers had one day to be fair.

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Last time I saw Weezer, they
covered I took a pill and I befa.

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I will take celebrity skin all day. Yes, nothing from Van Weezer,

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but room for a celebrity skin.
And then this Pumpkins set list is

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because it was a co headline with
two big X planes. Pretty that's like

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twenty four songs, pretty massive.
Yeah, Pumpkin's got two hours and Weezer

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got seventy five. I think right, it wasn't much of a cool headline.

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Really. I love the Pumpkins again, like I like pretty much everything

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they've done up until the reunion with
James E. Ha, which is sort

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of heartbreaking to say. Similar to
Metallica did a really great opening for But

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Only for Me, where the Everlasting
Gaze, which is a banger, the

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first song on Zeitgeist, which is
an underrated Pumpkins record anyway, but that's

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a big riffy rocker, then a
Youtwo cover track three. It worked well,

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like I simply be the only one
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They changed it like it actually worked
really well. They made it really

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dramatic and riffy. And then track
four today come on, I mean big,

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the crowd went mental. Yeah,
yeah, that's about the time when

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I would kind of switch on.
I suppose I am. There's a lot

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of Pumpkins records. I'm not massively
familiar, to be honest, that one

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is. It's controversial, but I
like it a lot. It's got a

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lot of riffs on it. Yeah, I think starting like that sort of

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set up the night how I was
gonna go. Where they would play,

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you know, nineteen seventy nine or
Tonight to night, the crowded go wild,

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they play anything else, the crowd
just nothing apart from me going crazy

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for panoptikon from Oceania like I had
during Mayonnaise, which seems to be a

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lot of people's favorite Smashing Pumpkins Soning
song, It's one of mine. Hearing

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that song live as soon as it
started, the whole arena just became filled

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with warm guitars and reverb and I
could have teared up. It was so

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like euphoric and overwhelming where I think
about all the like years and years of

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my life. I listened to that
song and the woman next to me put

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her arm on me and went,
it's good, isn't it? Because I

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was vibrating in my seat. Was
one of the most beautiful in a sort

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of weak full of beautiful live music
moments for me. That was also a

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highlight. You know what that Adam
songs aren't great, but they pointed one

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that I had never heard before because
I quit listening to the Atom Records after

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part two, called Spellbinding, which
is a banger. It's like a proper

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Cynthia like pop rock thing. I
think it worked well live. It's got

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a big chorus on it, and
I wish more songs on that project were

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that good. It was a mixed
bag with the Pumpkins, but I really

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liked it. As super fan who
wants to see stuff from every album,

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who wants to see Rhinoceros and all
that. I had a great time.

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Well there you go. That is
a massive loadown of a load of stuff.

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Also happens to be last week when
I did a little Fortress review news

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wise, it was very sort of
light and I didn't have much to kind

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of do by myself. But this
week seems to be the week that everyone

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if it's just the summer is hitting
and people are announcing on their albums for

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the September month and so on,
but this has been the week that everyone

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decided to drop singles at the same
time as well. There are even more

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singles out there than we're going to
you know, mention. Now, we're

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just going to go sort of in
depth on the bigger ones are attached to

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particularly exciting albums, and I guess, you know, there are other places

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to start as well, but I
guess the one that's had the most conversation

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around it this week, just because
it landed a few days ago and it's

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something we're particularly forward to is the
return of Nails, who released their first

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single in I guess five years because
they did that I don't want to know

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you ep. But it's the leadoff
track from their first album in eight years.

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That's how long it has been since
you will never be one of us.

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This is a record that we have
of course, kind of anticipated by

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doing our complete you know, four
ord hour whatever it was, Nails run

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down on the Patreon. We were
heavily you know, anticipating the return of

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not only you know, New Hour, but also just like you know,

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a new lineup of Nails, because
two thirds of the band left from where

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they were last around, so we
do have now news and all that to

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go on. The first thing is, as you know, on that kind

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of cue, you know, they've
unveiled the Nails lineup, because we didn't

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know anyone else's gonna be the band
other than Todd Jones. Prior to you

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know, this point, it was
just Todd hanging out in the studio with

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Kurt Blue, wasn't it. But
now you know they're on the cover of

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Decibel and everything. The Nails lineup, you know, Mark, you know.

406
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:34,400
Twenty twenty four includes on the drums, Carlos Cruz from the thrash metal

407
00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:40,359
band war Bringer, Andrew Solace on
the bass who plays in Despise You,

408
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:45,240
and Apparition, which I believe is
Taylor Young's kind of death metal band,

409
00:29:45,079 --> 00:29:48,720
and on guitar Shelby Lermo from the
band al Far, who I mentioned last

410
00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:51,920
week, not the one who played
Fortress, but the kind of black and

411
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:55,480
death metal type band who I got
that band confused with. So just looking

412
00:29:55,519 --> 00:30:00,079
at that line up there, none
of those are people who like a it

413
00:30:00,119 --> 00:30:02,960
necessarily would have sprung to my Oh
yeah, that'd be the obvious, definite

414
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:06,799
person that you know, Todd Jones
will get. But that is a very

415
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:11,279
neat cross section of like, hey, you've got thrash metal in war Bringer,

416
00:30:11,359 --> 00:30:15,319
you've got like power violence or grinding
despise. You you've got you know,

417
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:18,920
death metal in you know, all
Far an apparition. That's a really

418
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:25,119
neat cross section of like all the
different kinds of extreme music that Nails draws

419
00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:27,799
on. But we also have,
of course, the news of a new

420
00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:34,519
album, which is called Every Bridge
Burning Sorry August the thirtieth, via Nuclear

421
00:30:34,519 --> 00:30:38,240
Blast, and we've got the first
song actually on the album, the album

422
00:30:38,279 --> 00:30:42,880
Opener I Believe, which is called
Imposing Will. And I haven't seen an

423
00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:48,319
exact runtime for the album myself,
but I've seen word that it's about fifteen

424
00:30:48,359 --> 00:30:52,400
minutes long. Hell yeah, I
guess is it's not even you know,

425
00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:56,920
because there was the trend of every
Nails album growing because the closing track will

426
00:30:56,960 --> 00:31:00,839
just get longer each time. But
if one if fifteen minutes is an exact

427
00:31:02,359 --> 00:31:07,079
thing for this one, that would
actually put it only you know, longer

428
00:31:07,079 --> 00:31:08,440
than Unsilent Death, but I think
slightly shorter than all the other ones.

429
00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:11,559
And it's mad to be waiting eight
years for a record and it comes to

430
00:31:11,599 --> 00:31:15,640
it's fifteen minutes long. But I
guess it's fifteen minutes of music that you're

431
00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:19,119
gonna savor, as you always do
with Nails records. The first track,

432
00:31:19,359 --> 00:31:22,880
Imposing Will, which we said we
is, uh, the one that we

433
00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:26,319
have is about one minute twenty seconds
long. And I had such a weird

434
00:31:26,359 --> 00:31:29,400
experience, like, oh my god, a new Nail song. I put

435
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:32,279
it on and then it was gone
and I was like, that was the

436
00:31:32,359 --> 00:31:37,200
Nails song, you know what I
mean? Yeah, But also it's just

437
00:31:37,319 --> 00:31:41,319
eighty seconds of everything I want.
I enjoyed the experience. It was just

438
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:45,640
weird to have eight years of anticipation
fly by an eighty seconds. Yeah,

439
00:31:45,599 --> 00:31:51,559
like ten seconds a year, you
know, like exactly. But at the

440
00:31:51,559 --> 00:31:55,240
same time, like given anything given
we've done the Nail Special, I was

441
00:31:55,319 --> 00:32:00,920
so primed to just like lose over
new Nail, Like I had completely rediscovered

442
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:04,799
my love for this band this year, after being one, as we said

443
00:32:04,799 --> 00:32:07,559
on the special, being one who
did fall out with them a bit in

444
00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:10,440
the sort of the latter years of
their initial run. I hit a play

445
00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:15,920
on this and was just grided by
the most disgusting noise imaginable. And it's

446
00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:19,799
like the first one half it is
just like horrid, horrible noise, sound

447
00:32:19,839 --> 00:32:23,200
like an absolute maniac and then it
like switched into that sick riff in the

448
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:27,559
second half, and I was like, we're fucking good lads. Nails are

449
00:32:27,599 --> 00:32:30,039
fucking back doing everything I want from
them, And again like, yeah,

450
00:32:30,119 --> 00:32:34,880
maybe Amm's only fifteen minutes. I
I'm tiling Death is thirteen minutes. That's

451
00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:37,960
my favorite Nails record. I will
listen to the album on repeat. I'm

452
00:32:38,039 --> 00:32:42,400
sure when this album drops and I
listen for the first time, it'll finish

453
00:32:42,599 --> 00:32:45,240
and I will hit play immediately again, like I'm gonna listen to this album

454
00:32:45,319 --> 00:32:47,799
like four or five times in a
row. With the second it drops,

455
00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:52,119
Yeah, like brevity whatever, it
is just delivering exactly one the new lineup.

456
00:32:52,119 --> 00:32:54,759
They like, like, I'm sure, and when you get the album

457
00:32:54,759 --> 00:32:58,799
you might be able to pick up
some differences in the lineup, but at

458
00:32:58,799 --> 00:33:02,000
the moment, it just sounds like
Nails are back doing what Nails do and

459
00:33:02,039 --> 00:33:06,079
it's exactly what I want. Yeah. That The only thing there that I

460
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:08,759
did sort of pick up on is
again, I heard this track before I

461
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:13,200
saw the news of who was in
the lineup, and the thing that stuck

462
00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:15,279
out to me on this track as
being maybe slightly different was the drums,

463
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:20,759
which on that fast part of the
beginning did feel to me like a very

464
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:27,400
like a thrashy kind of like rather
than the Tailor Young kind of like everything

465
00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:30,920
at once like overwhelming, like avalanche
of power. So that did feel different

466
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:32,480
to me. So then I was
quite like, oh shit, it's the

467
00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:37,200
guy from Warburing, and maybe that
kind of makes sense the you know,

468
00:33:37,319 --> 00:33:42,960
the drop into the second half.
Yeah, again, I like the way

469
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:46,759
they patented nail Trick, where we
spoke about a million times, but they

470
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:50,559
kind of meet and out where when
that riff first comes in, it's got

471
00:33:50,559 --> 00:33:52,839
that like that is when the double
bass comes in, and I was like,

472
00:33:52,839 --> 00:33:55,400
oh shit, that that like the
first half of the second half of

473
00:33:55,400 --> 00:34:00,079
the song is the most It sounded
like old Nails, like the classic lineup,

474
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:05,400
but then they kind of move into
that like real laid back, kind

475
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:08,079
of hard chorus groove for it,
and that was like a nice light again

476
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:13,159
a subversion of what you already thought
that riff was you mentioned about Todd.

477
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:21,360
Todd sounds so like gargly y on
this track, like and think, you

478
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:23,519
know, thinking about you know,
his vocal tone changed a lot from like

479
00:34:23,599 --> 00:34:25,880
Unsilent Death to you will every one
of us, as we spoke about on

480
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:30,920
the special, but thinking about like
this, you could literally say, you

481
00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:36,320
can, like show this song to
someone who's never heard Nails before and then

482
00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:38,559
a song from Unsilent Death and they
would probably think it's a different vocalist,

483
00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:43,519
Like he has changed so dramatically of
a band life, I guess in the

484
00:34:43,559 --> 00:34:45,800
vocals and how like gargled and mangled, because that's the one where they're sort

485
00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:49,599
of the most or like fucked up. To me, it sounds like his

486
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:51,880
kind of more death metally tone that
he lent into and You'll never be one

487
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:53,159
of us, except he's got even
more fle in it, Like it's all

488
00:34:53,159 --> 00:34:58,880
the kind of just all over it. He sounds like more of a flemy

489
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:00,679
monster than he ever has as opposed
to again in the early Nails day when

490
00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:05,880
he was like a shouty hardcore I
definitely, I think definitely not like I'm

491
00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:08,480
silent deaf way that is a more
hard vocal I was just so like,

492
00:35:08,519 --> 00:35:14,559
oh my god, And I guess
looking at this album, it does feel

493
00:35:14,599 --> 00:35:17,039
like maybe more of an extension of
you will not be one of us in

494
00:35:17,119 --> 00:35:21,119
terms of like even the artwork is
you know, they've gone to the same

495
00:35:21,199 --> 00:35:22,760
artists as you and ever be one
of us, and kind of it a

496
00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:29,559
setically looks very very similar. Yeah, and the production feels similar to that

497
00:35:29,599 --> 00:35:32,679
record as opposed to you know prior, so I maybe you know it.

498
00:35:34,519 --> 00:35:36,840
I don't know how many sort of
wild leads from record record, but obviously

499
00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:38,199
we have different lineup, so there
will be a kind of different chemistry going

500
00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:43,679
on. Mark. You don't necessarily
have the you know, four hours of

501
00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:45,920
recent Nails, you know, heavy
discussion to kind of have it so fresh

502
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:50,199
in your mind. But about eighty
seconds of Nails still just slapped around the

503
00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:54,719
chops. Oh my god, this
thing ripped it is I can't get my

504
00:35:54,800 --> 00:36:00,559
head round it. It's like being
handed a really really hot potato. Yeah

505
00:36:00,599 --> 00:36:02,760
it's there, it's affecting me,
it's burning me, but I can't really

506
00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:06,480
grab on to it. A couple
listens to be like, Okay, yeah,

507
00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:07,599
this is the structure. These are
the rifts because it is just a

508
00:36:07,639 --> 00:36:14,320
fucking yeah. It sounds razor sharp, it sounds amazing, And yeah,

509
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:17,280
Todd's my favorite thing on it because
he's just like a fucking little GHOULI like,

510
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:24,679
yeah, this thing's nasty. So
that is the return of Nails.

511
00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:28,519
There's a huge American tour they' pronounced
as well. And one thing I notice

512
00:36:28,519 --> 00:36:31,960
is Tailor Young's when it Tailor Young's
current band's Dead Body are on that tour,

513
00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:35,400
and it's nice that you know,
they're kind of still on good terms

514
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:37,760
and you know, touring together with
how that kind of you know, the

515
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:42,119
lineup fall up kind of went.
But yeah, Nails August thirtieth is when

516
00:36:42,119 --> 00:36:45,440
we're going to finally get good vibes
kind of around Nails for the first time

517
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:50,159
in a while, doesn't it?
Like Yeah, and speaking of you know,

518
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:53,559
vibes that you know may have a
kind of impact on people. I

519
00:36:54,119 --> 00:36:58,199
thought Nails would just be the runaway
kind of like story of the week in

520
00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:00,360
terms of new music. But it
should not be discounted of course that The

521
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:07,199
Black Dahlia Murder have just released their
first single without Trevor Durnard of course,

522
00:37:07,519 --> 00:37:13,119
with you know Brian, their longtime
guitarist, who took over the frontman role

523
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:17,679
in the wake of Trevor's passing.
They made their live return last year,

524
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:22,119
I believe it was, and we
knew an albu was coming. We've got

525
00:37:22,119 --> 00:37:28,039
news on that now as well.
The album is called Servitude. It's going

526
00:37:28,119 --> 00:37:30,960
to be out at the end of
September, and they have released a single

527
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:32,280
from it called after Math, which
is not the opening track on the record,

528
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:35,800
as it sometimes has been a trend. It's sort of in the middle

529
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:40,000
of thish But I mean, actually
I spoke to Brian recently and he said,

530
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:44,599
yeah, we will have new music
out by the time we played Download

531
00:37:44,639 --> 00:37:49,320
Festival. Left it really late in
the day because it's download vegetable as we

532
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:51,880
were speaking. But I guess technically
it has arrived and they will play it

533
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:57,000
if you know you happen to be
there. But obviously this is a massive

534
00:37:57,280 --> 00:38:00,159
story in itself, just in terms
of like the moment of you know,

535
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:06,360
of course we were all so absolutely
devastated when you know, we lost Trevor.

536
00:38:07,559 --> 00:38:13,199
So this is one of those kind
of like come back narratives in a

537
00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:15,119
way, you know, seeing kind
of uh. And you know, when

538
00:38:15,119 --> 00:38:17,559
we got the news that Black Donlay
would even be continuing, I remember we

539
00:38:17,599 --> 00:38:20,599
said it kind of very similar to
the way we have a power trip.

540
00:38:20,599 --> 00:38:24,880
It's kind of like expectation will put
aside, right because it's just like goodwill

541
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:28,800
in terms like whatever you guys in
your own time, what to do,

542
00:38:30,079 --> 00:38:34,960
we will be there to kind of
see it unfold. My you know,

543
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:38,840
obviously my curiosity with us is primarily
what will the what will it be like

544
00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:42,920
hearing the Black Dahlia Murder with a
different guy on vocals, because they've never

545
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:45,800
had that before, and Trevor was
like the most distinctive vocalist in you know,

546
00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:49,920
that scene, next to the likes
of Travis Ryan and so on.

547
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:53,960
So like focusing I guess on that
aspect of over necessarily the quality of the

548
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:55,559
thrental of the song, which is, you know, it's all kind of

549
00:38:55,559 --> 00:38:59,639
a given because Black Dola mata Or
was just great, aren't they? So

550
00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:01,280
you know, it's a Black Dahli
murder song. It's a ripper. Great

551
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:07,400
cool. How do you feel about, you know, hearing the Black Dahlia

552
00:39:07,519 --> 00:39:12,880
Murder with with Brian on the vocals? I mean again like one of it

553
00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:15,199
is like let it be what it
needs to be. Don't compare it to

554
00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:20,239
Trevor. Yeah, like and doing
that, I was like, yeah,

555
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:22,480
you know what this fucking rips like
again, it just it just did everything

556
00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:25,079
I want for a Black Dahlia Murder
song. When it goes fast and hard,

557
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:29,440
there's a spooky bit. It does
all those things. And again,

558
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:32,039
like I've noticed enough to really again
pick up every little nuance in the lyrics

559
00:39:32,039 --> 00:39:35,599
and the vocals. What's different.
I mean, the lyrics are gonna be

560
00:39:35,599 --> 00:39:38,280
a big part where we've talked so
much about like transway with words being so

561
00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:44,159
like metal Blade. Did they helpfully
they posted on the music video for the

562
00:39:44,199 --> 00:39:46,440
song. They posted the lyrics in
like the comments of the trip rests.

563
00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:49,679
I did ever read the lyrics for
this song, and I thought that was

564
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:52,280
quite I gat it was heartening in
away because the song is called Aftermath,

565
00:39:52,559 --> 00:39:55,800
and that is like, you know, you're not what the ghost inside it

566
00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:59,800
was? The ghost it is the
kind of it is one of those stock

567
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:01,920
come back from a tragic event sort
of song times. Yeah, and you

568
00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:05,840
think that could be what the song
is. You know, you'd be expecting

569
00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:08,840
like a really heavy song maybe in
that regard. But the song again,

570
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:13,440
the video opens with like this is
about a meteor like strikes the planet and

571
00:40:13,639 --> 00:40:16,440
kills the stinky humans who are called
apes or whatever. And you know,

572
00:40:16,519 --> 00:40:19,760
maybe there is a kind of metaphor
in there about kind of a you know,

573
00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:22,719
a meteoric impact or anything. But
like when the opening, like one

574
00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:24,920
of the opening eyes of song is
like the burning rock fell from the sky,

575
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:28,440
laid waste of the old world,
most did die, and it just

576
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:30,639
it feels like, yeah, but
murder come back and they've written a song

577
00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:34,360
just about a big meat or smashing
the shit out the world. Like it

578
00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:37,360
feels like more big storytelling, which
is what yeah, isn't it. Yeah,

579
00:40:37,519 --> 00:40:39,480
it's kind of like, ah yeah, nice business is business as usual

580
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:42,880
in a really good way. And
I like Brian, like you know,

581
00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:45,719
Gremmling in it up all over the
kind of video like kind of doing his

582
00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:47,960
weird or walks around and stuff,
and you know he doesn't sound like Trevor,

583
00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:52,360
of course, but I was straying. Maybe it's the thing that obviously

584
00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:54,360
I was looking out for the most
in terms of this particular song. But

585
00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:58,679
the vocals did feel like the most
striking element to me in terms of like

586
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:04,480
there is an ability you can hear
him Brian to kind of alter his tone

587
00:41:04,639 --> 00:41:07,920
and stuff for effect in the way
that Black Darling Metal was always so good

588
00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:10,920
at, you know, whether it's
creating characters or like making particular lines ro

589
00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:15,039
of the tongue a little bit more. And obviously it's because he's the he's

590
00:41:15,079 --> 00:41:19,000
been the one of the primary songwriters
for their entire duration. He knows it,

591
00:41:19,039 --> 00:41:21,559
he understands it, like even if
he wasn't the vocalist, how their

592
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:24,920
songs and their patterns work and everything
will be like a second language to him.

593
00:41:25,159 --> 00:41:29,159
But I was struck by obviously all
this is a you know, a

594
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:35,239
different vocal personality perhaps to a Trevor, but it's not an identicate growler trying

595
00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:37,880
to fit in what it does.
It's someone who understands how it works.

596
00:41:37,079 --> 00:41:39,920
This is what I really liked about. It was again like if I'm Nonu

597
00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:44,400
Curaco, definitely it's normally because I've
find the vocals can be a bit like

598
00:41:45,199 --> 00:41:50,719
just interchangeable. And again I'm not
gonna say he is as like character driven

599
00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:52,480
as Trevor, like Trevor's We're gonna
got one song to go on exactly,

600
00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:57,519
We'll wait to hear the album for
that. But but I still felt I

601
00:41:57,559 --> 00:41:59,679
was like, no, this is
a this is a distinct vocalist who is

602
00:42:00,199 --> 00:42:04,000
right changing his tone and inflection across
the song, and it just shows that

603
00:42:04,039 --> 00:42:07,440
like they haven't lost that part,
which is why they were probably the first

604
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:10,320
like death metal band I ever liked. Yeah, he's sound savage on it,

605
00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:15,079
and I love that bit halfway through
he gets a bit more grandiose,

606
00:42:15,119 --> 00:42:20,800
I guess. And really the reason
I'm here is the riffs rip. The

607
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:24,719
riffs haven't missed. Like the lead
lines all over it are just so so

608
00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:29,519
satisfying on the instrumental front. When
it gets to the part that stuck out

609
00:42:29,519 --> 00:42:30,800
to me was when it gets to
the kind of the duel solo part.

610
00:42:31,079 --> 00:42:35,480
I did do a little kind of
intake of breath because you know, obviously

611
00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:37,960
now with this current lineup, they
brought Ryan Knight back, so they've got

612
00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:40,320
Brandon Nellis, who was their guitarist
the last couple of records, who's amazing,

613
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:44,239
and then Ryan Knight, who was
sort of like the fan favorite ly

614
00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:46,360
guitarist from their kind of most classic
records. And the two of those guys,

615
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:50,360
you know, ripping it together is
as much a draw on this record

616
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:52,599
as anything else, I suppose.
And yeah, like I said that,

617
00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:55,400
the solo in this song was kind
of the moment where it kind of went

618
00:42:55,480 --> 00:43:00,880
up another notch for me. Yeah, it's really hard to listen to this

619
00:43:00,079 --> 00:43:06,679
with their sort of the most amount
of goodwill ever, but I think it's

620
00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:13,559
a really it takes a weight off. Yes, you know, not that

621
00:43:13,599 --> 00:43:15,639
I'm the biggest Black Dollar Murder fan, but there was a part of me

622
00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:22,400
like anxious about pressing play. But
as soon as it starts and it's like

623
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:25,320
the ending of it is so big
as well, Like it just hits such

624
00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:30,440
a spot. I can't wait for
this record. Yeah, it's not necessarily

625
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:34,400
like immediately like the most again the
the you know, the most essential Black

626
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:36,840
Dina Murder track you've ever heard,
But it's an encouraging song I think in

627
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:38,440
terms of you here really good starting
point. Yeah, and the things that

628
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:44,079
we too exactly the things that we
were sort of not concerned about, but

629
00:43:44,119 --> 00:43:45,400
you know the things that we were
kind of you know, looking to as

630
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:50,440
like what how will that be?
We've got some encouraging answer to the questions

631
00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:52,400
here, and so you know,
we'll hear the rest of it in September

632
00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:57,360
it arrives, and yeah, massive, massive amount good will towards the album

633
00:43:57,400 --> 00:44:01,159
and and you know those guys in
general, I Vis are also back.

634
00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:05,800
They have announced not an album yet, but this will be apparently the lead

635
00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:09,679
single from whenever that album arrives.
High Ves have become, in the last

636
00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:14,960
kind of I guess, you know, year to eighteen months or whatever,

637
00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:20,599
one of the kind of runaway popular
bands, certainly in UK punk and hardcore,

638
00:44:20,599 --> 00:44:22,880
but they have been making a global
impact as well, maybe beyond some

639
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:28,199
other UK bands, which is interesting
for how kind of regionally UK they their

640
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:30,199
music is and how they feel.
But you know, the new Highvis record

641
00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:32,440
is going to be one of the
most kind of anticipated records in that kind

642
00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:36,400
of world for you know, the
second half of this year. So they've

643
00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:42,559
released a single from it called mob
Dla and I really fell in love with

644
00:44:42,639 --> 00:44:45,280
particularly that's the last High Viz album
I've listened to it a lot in like

645
00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:50,119
the last year or so, and
this was cool because it was it's got

646
00:44:50,159 --> 00:44:52,440
like a it feels like more of
a hard core So I'm actually than a

647
00:44:52,519 --> 00:44:54,920
number of their big ones do when
you think about trauma bonds and stuff like

648
00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:59,440
that, which I like, massive
could almost be like you know, nineties

649
00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:02,840
Oasis or something. This has got
kind of like a growlier kind of tone

650
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:07,480
and you can feel the kind of
like the meanness and how it punches you.

651
00:45:07,039 --> 00:45:10,840
It's still got all that kind of
brit Rock feeling to it, like

652
00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:15,960
the vocals that the tone's voice is
unmistakable, but because yeah, it is

653
00:45:15,519 --> 00:45:20,239
roughed up a little bit, there's
a like like a harder edge to it

654
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:22,679
that means it doesn't feel was not
like it's not trying to be cool.

655
00:45:22,679 --> 00:45:25,119
It's just kind of like once a
fight was you. Well, I guess

656
00:45:25,119 --> 00:45:29,239
it's where they've been out hard core
fess and stuff like that that maybe is

657
00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:31,079
rubbed off on them. So they're
still doing what they do, but it's

658
00:45:31,159 --> 00:45:35,440
just a bit rowdier. Yeah,
But to me, it's got this kind

659
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:37,639
of you know, the lyrics as
well. We're talking a lot about kind

660
00:45:37,639 --> 00:45:42,119
of you know, kind of urban
decay and those kind of themes and to

661
00:45:42,159 --> 00:45:44,880
me that kind of intertwined where that
sort of stomp it has and maybe start

662
00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:46,280
thinking about like killing joke and the
kind of like the kind of weird little

663
00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:51,440
leaders it's got kind of like you
know, gray urban apocalypse sort of aspect

664
00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:52,039
to it. But you know,
I love it that so that's cool.

665
00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:54,320
You know, it's the kind of
thing where you go that could be kind

666
00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:57,920
of idolsy, but they've kind of
gone the you know, the good side.

667
00:45:58,320 --> 00:46:00,440
Yeah, and it has got a
catchy, kind of spokenish sort of

668
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:04,559
hook as well. And we've also
got blee from Within. It released new

669
00:46:04,599 --> 00:46:07,320
single which again we don't know attached
with anything an album I think right now,

670
00:46:07,639 --> 00:46:09,960
but they seem very kind of like, oh yeah, big new blean

671
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:15,880
bling within track with them. That
song is called Hands of Sin Mark we

672
00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:21,519
have You Here by by Happenstance.
So, you know, Bleeding from Within

673
00:46:22,079 --> 00:46:24,000
a new track. Why can I
not say their band name, Bleed from

674
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:29,679
Within is what they're called. You
like them? Mark, I'm presuming seeing

675
00:46:29,679 --> 00:46:32,719
as this just sounds a complete I
don't again, bleeding through Bleed from Within?

676
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:37,920
You like him? You probably like
this song, right, Yeah,

677
00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:43,239
I was a bit this is the
slightest change the production on it is slightly

678
00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:45,360
more sounded down, so I was
a bit worried. But it has a

679
00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:50,960
crazy blast beat part and it is
a mate. I love the chorus.

680
00:46:51,039 --> 00:46:53,760
I think that's one of the best
ones they've done. I'm so one on

681
00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:57,800
it, as I would be of
the band's going to piving to a bit

682
00:46:57,840 --> 00:47:00,719
more of a standing down, so
they're still sounding like meaning and heavier.

683
00:47:01,119 --> 00:47:05,119
The other bands have kind of taken
this slight more radium metal approach, so

684
00:47:05,159 --> 00:47:07,199
I was like, yeah, no, I'm fine with this. Like sounds

685
00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:09,960
pressive. They're still keeping the metal, they're putting blast beats in. And

686
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:15,360
then we also have what feels like
it snuck up even though it has I

687
00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:19,920
guess been about three years or something, but it feels like we were slacking

688
00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:22,440
off an Offspring album far too recently
for them there to suddenly be another Offspring

689
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:27,199
album. But they have announced their
eleventh album is going to be coming out

690
00:47:27,639 --> 00:47:30,559
in October on the eleventh, and
they've released a song from it, and

691
00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:35,559
I like, I put this on
and generally the first ten seconds just maybe

692
00:47:35,599 --> 00:47:37,880
go like nah, pissed, But
for some reason, I heard it,

693
00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:44,119
and I thought, part of me
thinks that Mark might like this because it

694
00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:47,760
sounds like it's like a weird nasal
Beach Boys song that sounds like it's been

695
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:51,880
written for like kids TV or something. And but part of me went,

696
00:47:52,559 --> 00:47:55,119
I wonder if Mark is going to
really vibe with this Offspring song. You

697
00:47:55,159 --> 00:48:02,840
know what, I can't help it
songs that sounds like power, like eighties

698
00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:07,280
power pop, or that it also
has vibes of like those post Ramones bands

699
00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:12,119
like The Queers that I really like
as well. I don't think the chorus

700
00:48:12,679 --> 00:48:17,000
is like lead single standard, but
I like it. It's fun and I

701
00:48:17,039 --> 00:48:22,880
can't I can't deny when a song
just ends with a minute of every hook,

702
00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:29,239
every vocal line just being blasted on
top of each other, like Dexter's

703
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:32,719
saying some ship and the robot woman
All I want to do is fly?

704
00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:39,480
It was, I don't know,
it's the off Spring dumb Ship. Yeah.

705
00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:44,719
The main chorus with the kind of
the poppy, you know, sort

706
00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:52,239
of vocal effect is just so like
relentlessly chirpy. That's how I like it.

707
00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:55,920
Baby, Yeah, I can't help
it. I think it's really fun.

708
00:48:57,000 --> 00:49:00,639
And if the record is like this
that sort of boards well for me.

709
00:49:01,519 --> 00:49:06,719
There you go. And then we
also have Keeping Them Coming Weirdly a

710
00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:07,519
string of songs that are kind of
you know, we don't know wan to

711
00:49:07,519 --> 00:49:09,599
talk about remixes and stuff like that, but there were sort of a few

712
00:49:09,599 --> 00:49:14,679
that were like, actually kind of
interesting. We've got a boy Harsher remix

713
00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:16,880
of a song from the latest Chelsea
Wolf record, a House of Self Undoing

714
00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:21,719
if you don't know boy Harsher.
They were really good, stand out kind

715
00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:24,719
of like you know, kind of
you know, goth electronic music kind of

716
00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:28,519
project. And I saw that as
a headline they were teasing. I was

717
00:49:28,519 --> 00:49:31,000
like, oh cool, you know, that's you know, fucking amazing Chelsea

718
00:49:31,079 --> 00:49:34,199
Wolf song. I'd like to hear
a boy Harsher remix of that. And

719
00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:37,519
I was expecting something kind of dark
and claustrophobic, but they make it really

720
00:49:37,599 --> 00:49:40,880
nice and like the original Chelsea Wolf
version is like the dark, claustrophobic song,

721
00:49:42,639 --> 00:49:45,239
but they've taken that vocal line and
somehow made it feel like a lovely,

722
00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:49,519
kind of like goth chilling at the
beach kind of thing. It's really

723
00:49:49,559 --> 00:49:52,519
it's really nice of so you know, enjoyable, and we also have Lamb

724
00:49:52,559 --> 00:49:58,079
of God. I have announced that
they have got a twentieth anniversary you know,

725
00:49:58,199 --> 00:50:00,440
kind of whole shabbag rolling out by
for Ashes of the Wake Beau.

726
00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:06,480
They've obviously been playing on that a
tour Mastador already, but they have got

727
00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:08,880
a kind of you know, reishoo
of the record. There's a song from

728
00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:14,760
a B side called Another Nail for
Your Coffin, and they have real I

729
00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:16,480
said, this is a weird thing
because I guess the original tracks from this

730
00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:20,559
are the same original tracks that were
on it twenty years ago, as Chris

731
00:50:20,559 --> 00:50:23,280
Adler playing the drums and everything,
but twenty years after the fact, they've

732
00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:29,719
inserted guest versus from the vocalist from
a Levolence and a Koopli Khan, which

733
00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:32,239
is just kind of a strange kind
of old and new situation hearing again that

734
00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:36,440
like twenty year old Ash of the
Wait style production that we all know and

735
00:50:36,519 --> 00:50:39,159
love, and then fucking Alex from
Malevolence turns up and is quite unmistakable,

736
00:50:39,159 --> 00:50:42,000
and it's like, oh shit,
yeah, I think that was it.

737
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:45,320
He's like quite junk to hear him
on such a like you're right song that

738
00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:49,960
sounds like it's from twenty years ago. But I'm down with like Lamb of

739
00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:52,760
God getting some cool new vocalists on
their tracks. Yeah, I've never heard

740
00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:58,199
the song before, but it's a
fucking banger even. I mean they were

741
00:50:58,239 --> 00:51:02,000
quite good around a little bit.
Yeah, so they can leave this off

742
00:51:02,079 --> 00:51:09,199
the record, and yeah, all
three vocal performances on it, they just

743
00:51:09,239 --> 00:51:15,280
send like big scary guys. And
that's what I like to hear, absolutely,

744
00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:19,440
And that's why you went to see
Fighting Thing at f Punch. And

745
00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:24,199
then finally, Health have released a
kind of reworked version of a song Ashamed,

746
00:51:24,239 --> 00:51:29,519
which was from last year's Rat Wars
album, and this was the headline

747
00:51:29,519 --> 00:51:32,119
that struck me. I guess they've
reworked it, featuring guest appearance from Lauren

748
00:51:32,159 --> 00:51:38,840
Maybury, the singer of the incredible
Scottish pop band Churches, And that would

749
00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:43,280
maybe go oh fuck yeah, because
such are like wait, what the fuck?

750
00:51:43,519 --> 00:51:47,280
Like I saw that, like so
down with it. Though, like

751
00:51:47,679 --> 00:51:51,840
the Rat Wars album, like I
liked it, I didn't go back to

752
00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:54,440
it tremendously. I know that we
have someone talking on him in the questions

753
00:51:54,440 --> 00:51:59,800
a while ago, like people went
fucking mental for Rat Wars, like massively

754
00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:00,760
surely the most a claim thing that
I'd ever done. Again, I thought

755
00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:05,320
it was quite good, but not
quite to that level. But basically the

756
00:52:05,320 --> 00:52:07,360
original version of the song, you
know, I'm sure I enjoyed it,

757
00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:09,920
but it's not necessarily ingrained itself into
my head massively for me to kind of

758
00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:13,679
you know, be like, oh, hugely different to the original version or

759
00:52:13,719 --> 00:52:17,159
whatever. But Lauren sounds great in
terms of like coming on that very heavy

760
00:52:17,199 --> 00:52:20,880
based because I like when Church is
lean into kind of the depeche Mode and

761
00:52:20,920 --> 00:52:24,039
stuff like that. Anyway, So
I was just kind of even if I

762
00:52:24,079 --> 00:52:27,559
hadn't even listened to I just thought
it was a wonderful crossover to get,

763
00:52:27,599 --> 00:52:30,400
like, you know, for me, one of the coolest kind of you

764
00:52:30,440 --> 00:52:34,960
know, artists in the pop sphere. Yeah, getting into something like legitimately

765
00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:38,079
again kind of you know that's non
metal adjacent heavy. I mean, like

766
00:52:38,159 --> 00:52:43,719
Churches have links to a lot of
alternative music. Yeah, Robert Smith on

767
00:52:43,719 --> 00:52:45,920
the last album, which is amazing. Yeah, and the other members have

768
00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:51,079
been in bands that I like,
post rock bands, Yeah, Aerogram Show.

769
00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:53,599
So like, yeah, I d
of showing Mum. I was like,

770
00:52:53,679 --> 00:52:57,079
no that she's a collaboration. I
mean health for working with just about

771
00:52:57,079 --> 00:53:00,199
everyone they can at the moment they
are getting around. Yeah, this is

772
00:53:00,199 --> 00:53:05,440
one of the more exciting pairings I
thought. Yeah, yeah, Alex on

773
00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:07,599
Fire, seeing as we've done a
whole lot of coverage on them lately as

774
00:53:07,599 --> 00:53:10,280
well. They've just announced that they've
got a live album coming out with Born

775
00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:14,079
and Raised twenty twenty two. So
this was I think their own Born and

776
00:53:14,119 --> 00:53:16,480
Raised festival that they did. But
they've weret a live album coming out with

777
00:53:16,519 --> 00:53:21,119
the you know, one of the
shows from that if you want to hear

778
00:53:21,199 --> 00:53:24,119
you know, Alection Fire and their
current live incarnation probably you know some wicked

779
00:53:24,159 --> 00:53:29,079
songs included from you know, the
newest album that obviously weren't around las time

780
00:53:29,079 --> 00:53:32,039
they were reread sing live album.
So that's cool to hear. And now

781
00:53:32,079 --> 00:53:36,760
we are going to turn to the
live music side of things in terms of

782
00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:39,119
announcements and what's coming up and stuff. As you know, it is download

783
00:53:39,159 --> 00:53:45,800
festival, as we said, there
are as always there's the post download gush

784
00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:50,360
of kind of tours and announcements and
stuff of bands who were involved at that

785
00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:52,800
festival, which we'll get to in
a minute, but I think we should

786
00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:58,599
also I guess at least acknowledge something
that has kind of been very much dominating

787
00:53:58,679 --> 00:54:01,599
the kind of you know, news
call for the past couple of past few

788
00:54:01,679 --> 00:54:07,119
days in regards to Download Festival,
which is essentially a load of bands,

789
00:54:07,360 --> 00:54:14,559
primarily I guess probably entirely hardcore bands
or you know, small punk bands who

790
00:54:14,559 --> 00:54:16,280
were playing on the lower stages.
I think the dog Tooth stage in particular

791
00:54:16,280 --> 00:54:19,880
at Download was massively effective, but
I know there was also there was some

792
00:54:20,039 --> 00:54:23,360
kind of other weird side the VIP
area. Can they have their own little

793
00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:27,760
special stage where a bunch of bands
were playing. Yeah, But basically,

794
00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:30,880
again, the smaller hardcore bands who
are playing primarily those two stages, a

795
00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:36,559
number of them have kind of come
together and increasingly drop out of Download Festival

796
00:54:36,559 --> 00:54:42,280
in the days kind of running up
to it due to essentially an organized kind

797
00:54:42,280 --> 00:54:46,800
of boycott campaign. We're taking issue
with Barkley's, who are one of Download

798
00:54:46,800 --> 00:54:54,559
Festival's sponsors, and it's because Barclays
have links to military equipment companies who have

799
00:54:54,760 --> 00:55:01,480
been you know, involved with equipment
being used by the Israeli military in Gaza

800
00:55:01,800 --> 00:55:06,880
of late, and so you know, in order to essentially, you know,

801
00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:09,039
draw attention to that link of you
know, download to Barkleay's Barclays too,

802
00:55:09,079 --> 00:55:12,559
you know, Israel. A number
of bands have dropped out and decided

803
00:55:12,559 --> 00:55:15,840
to boycott, you know again these
Barkleay sponsored kind of events, and this

804
00:55:15,880 --> 00:55:19,639
conversation already got you know, I
kind of exhausted by it, even tho

805
00:55:19,679 --> 00:55:22,159
obviously I have to acknowledge how significant
and important it is, and it would

806
00:55:22,159 --> 00:55:25,960
feel wrong to not mention it to
something as to eat here, even if

807
00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:29,760
we have spoken about it quite extensively
and things like the T and M discord

808
00:55:30,039 --> 00:55:31,559
or whatever. But essentially a kind
of, you know, a brief version

809
00:55:32,159 --> 00:55:37,039
of you know this kind of this
discourse that's been going on is the you

810
00:55:37,039 --> 00:55:42,599
know, the obvious thing is I
essentially agree with in terms of, like,

811
00:55:42,639 --> 00:55:45,400
you know, the decision of bands
to you know, boycott and do

812
00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:49,119
what they do, even if it's
not I don't think it's even about a

813
00:55:49,199 --> 00:55:52,000
kind of the discourse has primarily been
I suppose kind of is it helpful or

814
00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:57,679
not? Kind of you know,
dropping out in advance so close to advance

815
00:55:57,719 --> 00:56:01,800
in particular what these have kind of
been doing. And that's been again kind

816
00:56:01,800 --> 00:56:07,039
of the slightly exhausting part of the
conversation to be because essentially I look at

817
00:56:07,039 --> 00:56:10,039
it and I go, that's your
decision, fair enough, Like even if

818
00:56:10,079 --> 00:56:15,960
I thought kind of it would be
more helpful to maybe to go to the

819
00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:17,400
event and say something on stage or
whatever, which I do hope that,

820
00:56:17,440 --> 00:56:20,679
you know, maybe some of the
bands who will continue to play. I

821
00:56:20,679 --> 00:56:22,239
mean, is what I mentioned that
slammer when I was like, I was

822
00:56:22,280 --> 00:56:27,159
sort of paying into what bands were
actually using their platform to speak out about

823
00:56:27,159 --> 00:56:30,039
it there and there was only a
select few, but as I would hope

824
00:56:30,480 --> 00:56:32,960
some of the bigger bands that donode
would do the same. Yeah, yeah,

825
00:56:34,159 --> 00:56:37,679
And I would actually maybe say that
the most helpful thing would probably be

826
00:56:37,719 --> 00:56:42,559
a combination of approaches where maybe like
some of the larger acts if they are

827
00:56:42,639 --> 00:56:45,599
you know, so inclined, you
know, but in a perfect world,

828
00:56:45,599 --> 00:56:49,159
I would obvious in the perfect world, the wouldn't be a problem. But

829
00:56:49,880 --> 00:56:52,280
in terms of this situation, I
would like to see, you know,

830
00:56:52,320 --> 00:56:57,360
bands playing the festival make statements and
maybe again some of these smaller bands who

831
00:56:57,400 --> 00:57:01,079
are coming from a more DIY community
like hardcore, you know, drawing because

832
00:57:01,079 --> 00:57:04,840
sessusally, what they're doing is they're
trying to draw attention to specifically the Barklays

833
00:57:04,880 --> 00:57:08,199
thing, which I think most people
probably would not have been aware of.

834
00:57:08,440 --> 00:57:14,199
Specifically the Barklays were a a sponsor
of Download Festival and b were involved in

835
00:57:14,239 --> 00:57:16,960
with the kind of Israeli military in
that way. And I think now as

836
00:57:17,000 --> 00:57:22,360
a result of this, you know, boycott, a lot more people at

837
00:57:22,360 --> 00:57:25,239
the very least now do know those
things, and that is why they've done

838
00:57:25,280 --> 00:57:28,559
it. And so I look at
that and go, I guess you know,

839
00:57:28,719 --> 00:57:30,639
to some degree, even if again
it's a kind of drop in the

840
00:57:30,639 --> 00:57:36,880
ocean, some kind of impact or
statement has been made. So I go,

841
00:57:37,000 --> 00:57:38,800
yeah, fair enough. Yeah,
now that that's very much where I've

842
00:57:38,840 --> 00:57:42,679
come at this from as well.
I mean, this has got covered by

843
00:57:42,719 --> 00:57:46,480
BBC like like you can sell you
want about whether, like how much of

844
00:57:46,480 --> 00:57:52,880
it has made If it's made ten
people aware of the link between Barklays and

845
00:57:52,960 --> 00:57:55,960
Israel and all that, then it's
made a difference small or large, like

846
00:57:57,039 --> 00:58:01,000
it has started a conversation. You
can like say that like oh it's Magativity's

847
00:58:01,000 --> 00:58:04,800
bands pulling out. You can link
to other things where they've sort of but

848
00:58:04,840 --> 00:58:08,719
they've done this and blah blah blah, like it is impossible to be morally

849
00:58:08,719 --> 00:58:13,119
pure and perfect at all times.
But this is at least the very least

850
00:58:13,159 --> 00:58:15,599
these bands starting this has started a
discourse, has typed people to be where

851
00:58:15,840 --> 00:58:20,719
I think Dying Wish have been the
latest. Yeah, it started off.

852
00:58:20,880 --> 00:58:23,760
I think that the main three who
really kind of kicked off were Pest Control,

853
00:58:24,559 --> 00:58:28,079
well Petrol again, who are a
UK band, and they were particularly

854
00:58:28,159 --> 00:58:30,840
kind of pushing this. But then
there was the trio of Speed, Scowl

855
00:58:30,920 --> 00:58:37,079
and Zulu or that spot Crow,
like prominent international hardcore bands where maybe a

856
00:58:37,159 --> 00:58:39,320
larger international profile than someone like Pest
Control. Yeah, they did that,

857
00:58:39,360 --> 00:58:44,199
and then I think Ithaca did it, and then I think again Dying Wish

858
00:58:44,239 --> 00:58:46,039
and done it, and maybe by
the time it's goes negative frame and overpower

859
00:58:46,280 --> 00:58:52,360
some UK hardcore bands, they've joined
in and again it maybe you know,

860
00:58:52,800 --> 00:58:55,360
like you say, the impact might
be so small in terms of like all

861
00:58:55,400 --> 00:58:59,599
it is. It's making people aware
of, you know, the Barclays kind

862
00:58:59,639 --> 00:59:02,960
of situation and their links and everything, and maybe that is not a game

863
00:59:04,039 --> 00:59:07,760
changing impact. But what do I
think is more important That someone can get

864
00:59:07,760 --> 00:59:10,920
to see Speed at Download Festival and
they'll probably see them at some other show

865
00:59:13,000 --> 00:59:17,039
or that you know, this thing
is said and this statement is made.

866
00:59:17,559 --> 00:59:21,920
I think that's probably the more valuable
thing. And you know, there's been

867
00:59:22,079 --> 00:59:24,480
this kind of story developed because people
like Ronnie Radkey, for example, came

868
00:59:24,519 --> 00:59:29,920
out basically saying that that the bands
involved are hypocrites because some of them,

869
00:59:29,920 --> 00:59:32,800
like Scale for example, have you
know, taken sponsorships from places like Tucker

870
00:59:32,800 --> 00:59:37,280
Bell and these other kind of like
larger, you know, huge companies,

871
00:59:37,440 --> 00:59:39,400
some of whom may have links to
again similar things to to Barclays here,

872
00:59:39,480 --> 00:59:44,119
some of who might just be kind
of large international corporations who are always inherently

873
00:59:44,239 --> 00:59:47,280
kind of you know, you know, have those less ye have those less

874
00:59:47,280 --> 00:59:51,440
savory links somewhere along the line whatever. It's easy to say that when you

875
00:59:51,480 --> 00:59:54,280
stand for absolutely nothing, like Whenny
Radkey does that, and I think,

876
00:59:54,360 --> 01:00:00,360
yeah, and I immediately question that
guy's motives because his is the mindset of

877
01:00:00,840 --> 01:00:06,360
if I point something out that you've
done that hasn't been perfect, then that

878
01:00:06,400 --> 01:00:09,119
makes your current act of doing something
pointless. It's the kind of agotcha kind

879
01:00:09,119 --> 01:00:12,800
of mentality. Right, no one
should ever do anything to make any kind

880
01:00:12,840 --> 01:00:15,760
of any positive change because like you
once did this thing that I could put

881
01:00:15,840 --> 01:00:17,440
up my back pocket and go no, no, no, no no,

882
01:00:17,559 --> 01:00:22,599
But I would dismiss that and go
okay, But an impact is being made

883
01:00:22,599 --> 01:00:27,199
now, like a specific issue is
happening here that bands have decided to go,

884
01:00:27,360 --> 01:00:30,559
you know what, right now,
at this point in time, we

885
01:00:30,639 --> 01:00:36,360
would rather make a statement than kind
of blindly go along with something that we

886
01:00:36,400 --> 01:00:39,440
don't want to be complicit in.
And I basically what I'm saying there is

887
01:00:39,760 --> 01:00:44,079
any time to try and make a
positive change is a good time, right

888
01:00:44,280 --> 01:00:47,480
Like regardles tool, you can always
try and try and be better and better

889
01:00:47,480 --> 01:00:50,880
yourself and all that blah blah blah. Yeah, regardless of what money you

890
01:00:50,920 --> 01:00:52,760
might have taken from Taco Bell or
whatever, which did get them a much

891
01:00:52,840 --> 01:00:57,519
larger profile. To you know again, is kind of the weighing up thing.

892
01:00:58,760 --> 01:01:01,360
I don't think that negates the positive
impact of going, hey, let's

893
01:01:01,360 --> 01:01:06,000
do this in a more kind of
intellectual sense. I thought this was interesting

894
01:01:06,039 --> 01:01:12,239
because basically it raised an idea about
kind of corporate hardcore, because it's been

895
01:01:12,280 --> 01:01:15,480
something that has been borderline celebrated.
I suppose in the last couple of years,

896
01:01:15,599 --> 01:01:20,760
bands like Scowl or Turnstile or whatever, you know, kind of when

897
01:01:20,760 --> 01:01:22,039
they get these huge like oh my
god, you know it Turnstiles on the

898
01:01:22,039 --> 01:01:27,039
po using Attackabella advert kind of you
know X things sponsoring up or whatever.

899
01:01:27,119 --> 01:01:30,079
Again again, I don't know these
links or anything, but like, you

900
01:01:30,119 --> 01:01:35,079
know, I'd be fascinated what a
festival like Coachella, who are a lot

901
01:01:35,079 --> 01:01:37,039
of these bands have kind of you
know, done high profile sets playing you

902
01:01:37,039 --> 01:01:42,760
know, you know what kind of
corporate sponsors are involved with something like Coachella

903
01:01:42,840 --> 01:01:46,360
for example. How far does it
go? I suppose, because as we

904
01:01:46,400 --> 01:01:52,239
say, it's an interesting place right
now that has been surprisingly under discussed.

905
01:01:52,280 --> 01:01:55,280
I think until this moment that hardcore
for the past at least five years,

906
01:01:55,360 --> 01:02:04,599
probably more, has been like the
source of buzzy crossover mainstream bothering acts from

907
01:02:04,639 --> 01:02:07,920
like legit heavy music, right yeah, from Code Orange the kind of late

908
01:02:07,920 --> 01:02:10,239
twenty tens to not Losing Turnstile whatever, to the new breed of Speed and

909
01:02:10,280 --> 01:02:17,000
Scowl and so on. And hardcore
is inherently a kind of anti capitalist,

910
01:02:17,159 --> 01:02:20,519
you know, anti colonist, whatever
kind of movement, and that's what it

911
01:02:20,559 --> 01:02:24,599
prides its ethics on. So when
you see something like this where essentially a

912
01:02:24,679 --> 01:02:29,800
load of like the buzziest mainstream crossover
type bands from the heavy world, like

913
01:02:29,840 --> 01:02:35,159
a Scowl have looked at a corporate
sponsored event like download and gone, we

914
01:02:35,199 --> 01:02:38,519
don't want to be there. That's
interesting in terms of like you know what

915
01:02:38,760 --> 01:02:43,559
ceiling does that kind of put on
those kind of like when we spoke touch

916
01:02:43,599 --> 01:02:45,800
about kind of like ar these hardcore
bands are breaking through and going into the

917
01:02:45,800 --> 01:02:52,519
mainstream. The interaction with like legit
corporate kind of structures over again issues like

918
01:02:52,599 --> 01:02:54,679
Gaza, But it could be any
number of things really where those lines are

919
01:02:54,760 --> 01:03:00,000
kind of drawn. I think it's
a fascinating conflict that we're seeing play out.

920
01:03:00,239 --> 01:03:02,159
Be interested to see kind of for
the next few years how it kind

921
01:03:02,159 --> 01:03:06,880
of affects these kind of a bounts. Yeah, you can't, like I

922
01:03:06,880 --> 01:03:08,519
think with where the world is out, you can't purely get big on a

923
01:03:08,559 --> 01:03:14,639
DIY basis like minor thret can't happen
again now, Figars you can't happen again

924
01:03:14,639 --> 01:03:16,840
now those things that like blow up
and their kind of scenes and like their

925
01:03:16,880 --> 01:03:22,679
legend grew, you can't replicate that
now about playing the game to some extent,

926
01:03:22,480 --> 01:03:24,519
and so this is what bands have
to do. But then it comes

927
01:03:24,559 --> 01:03:29,079
to the conflict of like how far
will you play the game before you have

928
01:03:29,119 --> 01:03:32,800
to kind of go no, this
compromises my, like our morals to such

929
01:03:32,840 --> 01:03:36,320
an extent that we can't be part
of it anymore. And I think that

930
01:03:36,440 --> 01:03:37,840
this is what a lot of the
bands are going to find themselves, where

931
01:03:37,840 --> 01:03:40,880
they will take the deals they can
to you know, get a leg up,

932
01:03:42,360 --> 01:03:45,199
but when it comes to drawing a
line, they I think a lot

933
01:03:45,199 --> 01:03:46,960
of these bands will still find a
line they can draw. Yeah, I

934
01:03:47,039 --> 01:03:52,840
think it's you know, Download Festival
is the biggest dedicated rock event in the

935
01:03:52,920 --> 01:03:57,639
UK. If hardcore as a kind
of movement, because again someone on Ithaca,

936
01:03:57,719 --> 01:04:01,679
for example, Ithaca pulling out was
very much like, oh, let's

937
01:04:01,679 --> 01:04:04,800
take advantage of the momentum that's been
added by by that's been started by the

938
01:04:04,800 --> 01:04:08,559
band, the kind of add our
voices to the crowd, moment of like,

939
01:04:08,599 --> 01:04:11,760
oh shit, all these other bands
are doing it. Let's kind of

940
01:04:12,079 --> 01:04:15,719
let's try and you know, add
more steam to this movement by taking this

941
01:04:15,760 --> 01:04:18,719
popent to do it ourselves as well. If hardcore as a kind of collective

942
01:04:18,960 --> 01:04:24,000
as a movement decides to remove itself
from the equation at a place like Download

943
01:04:24,039 --> 01:04:26,159
Festival and then you got to think, like, you know, across Europe

944
01:04:26,320 --> 01:04:30,480
or whatever, how many other festivals
kind of equivalents will also have these kind

945
01:04:30,519 --> 01:04:33,679
of sponsors due to again issues like
Palestine. What ramifications does that have?

946
01:04:33,840 --> 01:04:38,039
I guess on the kind of you
know, again, the prospects of the

947
01:04:38,079 --> 01:04:41,599
genre in terms of popularity, I
don't know. It's like because it's almost

948
01:04:41,639 --> 01:04:45,639
like if they go and seal themselves
off to the kind of you know,

949
01:04:45,679 --> 01:04:48,039
the outbreaks that this is hard cares
or whatever kind of of the world,

950
01:04:49,360 --> 01:04:55,840
maybe the subculture becomes more self contained. Maybe the subculture grows and you just

951
01:04:55,880 --> 01:04:59,960
get more people, you know,
diverting away from places like the big core

952
01:05:00,280 --> 01:05:02,159
areas, and yet just more people
go into your outbreaks or whatever because that's

953
01:05:02,159 --> 01:05:08,480
what those bands are. I can
see it becoming sort of a self perpetuating

954
01:05:08,639 --> 01:05:15,519
scene, like where they just it
becomes its own separate thing away from the

955
01:05:15,559 --> 01:05:21,719
rest of rock music. And you
know, there's no ethical consumption under capitalism.

956
01:05:23,000 --> 01:05:26,000
But the point is you've got to
do something. They're doing something,

957
01:05:26,920 --> 01:05:30,519
yeah, and that's the that's the
point. That's what you that's all you

958
01:05:30,559 --> 01:05:34,239
can do. Really, People like
Ronnie Radkey are fucking cowards. He's a

959
01:05:34,280 --> 01:05:39,960
fucking clown and everyone being like,
oh, well ah, then it's not

960
01:05:39,960 --> 01:05:45,039
going to make a difference. You
don't know that at least they're doing something.

961
01:05:45,079 --> 01:05:47,360
What are you doing? It's a
drop in the ocean, but you

962
01:05:47,400 --> 01:05:53,280
know, drop ripples or whatever the
cliche statement, but you understand the point.

963
01:05:53,280 --> 01:05:58,119
I'm getting it. So where you
go somewhere it does. And as

964
01:05:58,119 --> 01:05:59,920
I was saying to kind of really
bring us home on this very long new

965
01:06:00,039 --> 01:06:03,400
section, we do have the post
download currently what we've seen at least there

966
01:06:03,480 --> 01:06:05,920
might be more coming next week,
I don't know, but what we currently

967
01:06:05,960 --> 01:06:08,960
have to go on in terms of, like you know, big announcements and

968
01:06:09,000 --> 01:06:13,119
stuff, and there are some big
announcements. The first one is that Blackveld

969
01:06:13,159 --> 01:06:18,119
Brides and Creeper are going to be
headlining Wembley Arena together, which feels I

970
01:06:18,239 --> 01:06:23,559
wasn't at all surprised to see it
necessarily because they've just done a US tour

971
01:06:23,599 --> 01:06:27,239
together where Creeper will support to blackfeld
Brides, so it feels like they've very

972
01:06:27,239 --> 01:06:29,840
sadly gone, Okay, we're already
kind of you know, in cahoots.

973
01:06:30,159 --> 01:06:33,960
Let's take this over to the UK
and try and do something big, which

974
01:06:33,960 --> 01:06:38,920
will be big for both bands,
I guess, but you know, it's

975
01:06:38,920 --> 01:06:43,880
fascinating to think. Again, Creeper's
first stab at something like an arena will

976
01:06:43,880 --> 01:06:46,599
be a kind of co headline with
a band like Blackfelt Brides. It's it's

977
01:06:46,599 --> 01:06:50,119
a normal because obviously they're so there
are I liked in a lot of ways.

978
01:06:50,119 --> 01:06:54,239
You know, they both like dan
Zig Like it's a perfect tour package

979
01:06:54,239 --> 01:06:56,639
for that American tour. Wasn't it
to get Creeper in front of more people?

980
01:06:56,800 --> 01:06:59,199
Yeah? Absolutely, I mean I
would have a lovely time with this.

981
01:06:59,480 --> 01:07:01,559
I think I'm just cooled. I'm
just glad to see Creeper take a

982
01:07:01,599 --> 01:07:05,239
shot at and arena, even if
it is in the situation I'm probably gonna

983
01:07:05,280 --> 01:07:12,119
go and have a great time.
Yeah, it's very strange. I'm like,

984
01:07:12,239 --> 01:07:15,960
I see it and it doesn't feel
right. I mean, good for

985
01:07:15,000 --> 01:07:19,840
them aiming for Wembley. I hope
it does well. Obviously I love one

986
01:07:19,880 --> 01:07:24,559
of those bands, and I like
the other part of the me is nervous

987
01:07:24,599 --> 01:07:29,119
about it though. Yeah, I
don't know. I think they've judged this

988
01:07:29,199 --> 01:07:32,840
and gone okay, our combined might
right, we can have a crack at

989
01:07:32,840 --> 01:07:34,800
it, And I think I think
they could do it. I think they

990
01:07:34,800 --> 01:07:39,840
could. I don't think it's off
the mark, So I think it's just

991
01:07:39,840 --> 01:07:43,000
interest because it's it's essentially what it
is. It's one band on who have

992
01:07:43,079 --> 01:07:45,159
been on the way up and another
band who are kind of slowly coming down,

993
01:07:45,440 --> 01:07:48,960
and they've met in the middle at
this point where and gone, Okay,

994
01:07:49,159 --> 01:07:54,199
this is the exact point where our
popularities are kind of comparable and we

995
01:07:54,239 --> 01:07:57,679
can kind of combine fourth in this
way. Yeah, and again in the

996
01:07:57,679 --> 01:08:00,000
America at all, where black felt
brids are clearly bigger, it made sense.

997
01:08:00,079 --> 01:08:03,960
But seeing them kind of on equal
pegging here is just like again very

998
01:08:04,159 --> 01:08:09,119
I'd be fascinated just to see kind
of what that crowd looks like and kind

999
01:08:09,119 --> 01:08:11,480
of what the shows look like.
I mean, you know, Creeper,

1000
01:08:11,760 --> 01:08:14,719
it's a night for Halloween, so
you know it's everyone's gonna be making it.

1001
01:08:14,840 --> 01:08:16,600
Oh yeah, that's why they fucking
booked it. You know. Whatever

1002
01:08:16,600 --> 01:08:19,279
the Creeper show looks like in terms
of pulling out the stops for it will

1003
01:08:19,319 --> 01:08:23,479
be big. But again, there
are apparently there are supports to be announced,

1004
01:08:23,479 --> 01:08:27,159
we don't currently have them. I
think that that might weigh up kind

1005
01:08:27,159 --> 01:08:30,800
of how how attractive this night looks
to me, I suppose kind of what

1006
01:08:30,840 --> 01:08:33,800
that ends up, what that whole
bill sort of ends up looking at It

1007
01:08:33,800 --> 01:08:36,319
would be hilarious if this is the
time that they finally got great pleasures and

1008
01:08:36,359 --> 01:08:42,399
to others imagine, but is it
along with black Verbris? That'd be amazing.

1009
01:08:43,119 --> 01:08:46,079
But it'll probably be exeter again when't
it, because that's what always happens.

1010
01:08:46,640 --> 01:08:53,920
But that is happening also happening fucking
crazily. Pantera are doing a UK

1011
01:08:54,319 --> 01:09:00,079
Ireland actual headline tour for obviously the
first time, and they're current incarnation if

1012
01:09:00,119 --> 01:09:02,600
you want to call it Panterra.
It's the first time since you know,

1013
01:09:02,760 --> 01:09:05,920
the I guess the early two thousands, and I don't know, I know,

1014
01:09:06,079 --> 01:09:11,279
even part of me always thought that
Panterra as it is might just kind

1015
01:09:11,319 --> 01:09:15,760
of, you know, get that
big festival money. And now the idea

1016
01:09:15,800 --> 01:09:19,119
that you know, the actual just
headline Panterra show at X venue will be

1017
01:09:19,159 --> 01:09:25,680
happening feels mad to me. There
is not a show in my direct vicinity,

1018
01:09:25,760 --> 01:09:29,520
so it's kind of removed the moral
dilemma to me of like would I

1019
01:09:29,600 --> 01:09:31,520
go or not? Because they're not
playing nim so I can you know,

1020
01:09:32,000 --> 01:09:34,760
not think about that, but you
know, if you are one of the

1021
01:09:34,800 --> 01:09:38,439
people who you know, decide that
you do want to go for the various

1022
01:09:38,439 --> 01:09:42,000
reasons that we've kind of spoken about
Panterra, there is actually a tour happening

1023
01:09:42,039 --> 01:09:46,119
which is fucking barmy. We also
have While She Sleeps have Headline, have

1024
01:09:46,159 --> 01:09:50,079
ann Outsdad Big Headline Tour. There's
a been a bit of kind of I

1025
01:09:50,079 --> 01:09:53,399
guess, confusion over the size of
the venues here because some people are like,

1026
01:09:53,439 --> 01:09:55,840
oh, it's a downgrade because they
played out it's under Palace, and

1027
01:09:55,880 --> 01:09:59,319
then some people like, oh,
it's massive because they haven't done a full,

1028
01:10:00,680 --> 01:10:04,279
you know, tour of the country
of this size. I would guess

1029
01:10:04,279 --> 01:10:09,159
it's fairly normal. I suppose for
a band who have just headlined one under

1030
01:10:09,199 --> 01:10:12,479
Power show to then go, okay, we're going to go up and down

1031
01:10:12,520 --> 01:10:16,319
the country in kind of like large
academy size venues. Like there's two nights

1032
01:10:16,319 --> 01:10:20,119
at the Forum, there's one at
Manchester's Victoria Warehouse. That seems about right.

1033
01:10:20,119 --> 01:10:24,000
I suppose, Yeah, two nights
of the Forum is slightly less than

1034
01:10:24,000 --> 01:10:28,680
Brixton. I think so that that
would that would add up about right.

1035
01:10:28,760 --> 01:10:32,520
I guess it feels weird that it's
slightly smaller, but you know, as

1036
01:10:32,600 --> 01:10:34,720
the Power would have drawn peoplerom all
over the country, whereas the yeah They'

1037
01:10:34,720 --> 01:10:38,680
going everywhere. Yeah no, I
would have imagined on the twelft doing Alley

1038
01:10:38,680 --> 01:10:41,119
Padi. They probably would have done
Bricks And again they've done two nights of

1039
01:10:41,159 --> 01:10:45,000
the Forum. It roughly makes sense
to me. Just feels weird while she

1040
01:10:45,039 --> 01:10:49,399
sleeps tour and just kind of shrug. Yeah, but there they are in

1041
01:10:49,439 --> 01:10:54,079
terms of tracking with their current popularities
and aner Shakarive announced what feels like about

1042
01:10:54,079 --> 01:10:59,399
their twelfth headline tour for the current
album, But it might be the first

1043
01:10:59,439 --> 01:11:02,000
one that actually, you know,
try and go and catch because not only

1044
01:11:02,039 --> 01:11:05,520
they playing near me, but also
they've got teenage wrist along the in support,

1045
01:11:05,520 --> 01:11:10,159
which makes that very just give package, that isn't it? Yeah?

1046
01:11:10,239 --> 01:11:13,039
Oh my god, I can't wait. I mean, I'm going definitely come

1047
01:11:13,079 --> 01:11:16,239
on. Yeah, not coming near
me, there's none of this. I

1048
01:11:16,239 --> 01:11:20,640
mean, how dare they not come
to London? They go to folks I

1049
01:11:20,680 --> 01:11:24,039
don't know where Folkstone is, to
be honest, I've been to gigging Folkston

1050
01:11:24,039 --> 01:11:26,359
before. I saw while she sleeps
there in a tiny pub in the middle

1051
01:11:26,359 --> 01:11:30,239
of the go ahead. So that
is where we are currently at with all

1052
01:11:30,279 --> 01:11:33,720
the you know, sort of it's
mid download I suppose right now news we

1053
01:11:33,760 --> 01:11:38,600
will come back next week with anything
else and maybe hopefully we'll have a couple

1054
01:11:38,760 --> 01:11:43,560
less new singles as well. But
we also now finally have the releases for

1055
01:11:44,159 --> 01:11:47,319
this week in June, and there
are a couple of albums that I'm really

1056
01:11:47,479 --> 01:11:51,479
looking forward to. Here. We
start off with a Black Country Communion with

1057
01:11:51,560 --> 01:11:55,319
their album V five. Of course, I did not even realize the Black

1058
01:11:55,319 --> 01:11:58,720
Country community were like still around.
This was like a I guess it was

1059
01:11:58,760 --> 01:12:00,279
a story at the very start of
twenty tens. I don't mind those early

1060
01:12:00,319 --> 01:12:03,560
couple of records, but they're back. That's obviously very classic rock, their

1061
01:12:03,600 --> 01:12:06,479
people like Glenn Hughes at form of
Deep Purple, Joe Bonamass or whatever.

1062
01:12:06,800 --> 01:12:10,199
We then also have if you you
know, if you want to kind of

1063
01:12:10,199 --> 01:12:13,680
more your alternative rock type fix this
week I think on Pure Nooise Records is

1064
01:12:13,720 --> 01:12:17,760
the early November with an album that
I read as being called self titled.

1065
01:12:18,119 --> 01:12:20,760
I don't know if it is like
excel tut album or if they've named the

1066
01:12:20,760 --> 01:12:24,640
album self titled I don't know,
but as the self titled album from the

1067
01:12:24,680 --> 01:12:29,319
early November whatever that turns out being
classic stone of rock of course from Fu

1068
01:12:29,359 --> 01:12:33,880
Manchu with the return of Tomorrow mainly
the kind of the you know, high

1069
01:12:33,960 --> 01:12:38,520
profile stuff I suppose weirdly is coming
from the underground this week where we have

1070
01:12:38,680 --> 01:12:44,560
the long long awaited new solo album
from Miss Julie Christmas which is called Ridiculous

1071
01:12:44,600 --> 01:12:46,920
and Full of Blood that is out. I've heard very good things about that

1072
01:12:46,960 --> 01:12:50,319
album. Also, if I've heard
very good things about the new album from

1073
01:12:50,399 --> 01:12:54,159
Crypt Sermon, which is called The
Stigian Rose, who are kind of one

1074
01:12:54,159 --> 01:12:57,720
of the you know, current sort
of more leading bands in terms of like

1075
01:12:58,039 --> 01:13:01,840
old school doom and heavy man and
that kind of fair for some more kind

1076
01:13:01,880 --> 01:13:05,239
of you know, well, I
guess, more pure heavy metal stuff.

1077
01:13:05,359 --> 01:13:09,680
Where's Lucifer's Hammer with being exist and
on again more on the kind of you

1078
01:13:09,680 --> 01:13:14,960
know, riffy side. There's a
resin with Burden out on Sergeant House Records.

1079
01:13:15,279 --> 01:13:17,000
One of the records I'm really looking
forward to is of course the new

1080
01:13:17,199 --> 01:13:21,319
from ulcer Rate, which has maybe
the hardest album title, not only of

1081
01:13:21,359 --> 01:13:25,640
this year, but one of the
hardest albums ever. The new Ulcra album

1082
01:13:25,680 --> 01:13:30,279
is called Cutting the Throat of God
hard. How fucking sick is that?

1083
01:13:30,319 --> 01:13:32,960
And I hope that the album lives
up to that title because the last one

1084
01:13:33,039 --> 01:13:38,159
was sensational and in kind of death
core fair again, we're going down the

1085
01:13:38,239 --> 01:13:40,600
sort of death metal rabit hole in
various ways here death core. We've got

1086
01:13:40,640 --> 01:13:44,039
Downfall of Mankind with Purgatory into a
track from that the features Matt Haytheakers.

1087
01:13:44,079 --> 01:13:46,720
Of course, it does a couple
records coming from the all kind of brutal,

1088
01:13:46,920 --> 01:13:53,720
you know death metal, fair Malignancy
with Discontinued and Embryonic Autopsy with Origins

1089
01:13:53,720 --> 01:13:56,560
of the Deformed, which has guest
appearances from the likes of James Murphy and

1090
01:13:56,640 --> 01:14:00,880
jacko in on there. Then we
also have I think a more kind of

1091
01:14:00,000 --> 01:14:05,560
like grindy, you know punk kind
of fair groin with a record called Paid

1092
01:14:05,640 --> 01:14:11,520
in Flesh and in black Beltal there
is fell Warden Legend Forged in Defiance,

1093
01:14:11,520 --> 01:14:14,439
which is the band I mentioned on
the Fortress review last week because it's one

1094
01:14:14,479 --> 01:14:17,199
of the guys from Fen doing a
new project and it's got Alistair from Ashenspira

1095
01:14:17,279 --> 01:14:21,119
and drums and that kind of thing. So there you have it. Thank

1096
01:14:21,159 --> 01:14:27,600
you very much for listening to us
on this kind of extended edition of Hyperblasts.

1097
01:14:28,279 --> 01:14:30,640
We will be back. We'll be
back with the Sepulateury Special mainly next

1098
01:14:30,680 --> 01:14:33,199
thing, but then fairly sue towards
the end of the month, we will

1099
01:14:33,239 --> 01:14:39,039
have the reviews bag for June with
a handful of those records in question going

1100
01:14:39,199 --> 01:14:43,079
under the ninth and I guess in
terms of the you know, big summer

1101
01:14:43,159 --> 01:14:45,840
and where we'll all be that at
the end of the month, sal we

1102
01:14:45,880 --> 01:14:48,439
go to outbreak as well, so
we'll be talking about But yeah, next

1103
01:14:48,479 --> 01:14:51,199
week we're back here with a normal
high Blast, so we'll see you there

1104
01:14:51,239 --> 01:14:55,960
for that. Thank you very much
for listening, and yeah, bye bye