Hello, everybody, Welcome back to Hyperblast here on that's non metal today.
I am not just by myself today. I have voices with me. Last
week, as you may have listened to, was my report from a Fortress
Festival, the up and coming black metal festival in the north of this country
that had a very lovely time last week. We are really as this show
is going to kind of attest to summer is properly heating up with lots of
live music stuff. That's gonna be a lot of what we're going to talk
about over next weeks. I guess obviously right now it is download festival,
so some of you might be hearing this kind of you know, in several
days time, having returned from that hope that was jolly. But sitting here
with me who you know have also been at big shows. We've got Sam
Dignon and we've got Mark Sanderson as well. All right, mate, I'm
I'm doing good. I'm knackered, but fresh off of raving about bon Jovi's
Forever album, Mark Sanderson here album of the year. Don't tell you otherwise.
Kiss the Bride is the song of the century. Yeah, Mark's voice
is one that you you may hear slightly more often on on the Hyperblast because
Elliott is a busy boy and Mark's popping in here. But this week,
of all weeks you have you know, been around, We're gonna throw to
Sam first of all, because another the live event of like the century,
if you literally, like the biggest tour of our lifetime pretty much like like
not even in terms of like media and sales and everything it basically is.
But you know, I'm sure that lots of you listening probably listened to like
outlets like us in order to get away from the likes of Taylor Swift.
And I am very much kind of at the end of my tether in terms
of the Taylor Swift media exposure. However, in a strange twist of fate,
the Era's tour in the UK particularly was made to be very TNM relevant.
Sam. I'm sure you would have gone anyway, because you are Oh.
I would have tried to get tickets regardless, Yes, yeah, But
as it happened, not only did you go to see Taylor Swift in Edinburgh
it was, but you happen to see, you know, both of our
Band of the Year for twenty twenty three on the Awards, Paramore supported for
them, and I guess it's very strange to see Paramore supporting anyone anymore.
I think Taylor Swift is literally the only person in the world who Paramore would
open for. So, you know, how was that novel experience seeing,
you know, one of our kind of firm festival headliner type bands are opening
a stadium show at like the biggest tour ever. I mean it was kind
of like, oh god, there are levels to like stardom. There are
like, yeah, Paramore, like they are one of our biggest bands.
They are like but love they will sell out arenas and and all that.
But in terms of like they've got it, and like I'm gonna say,
they've got a really good reception. Actually, the Swifties were up for it,
which was really nice to see after the TikTok Swifties, who were like,
you've only got one song and they're not even playing it at the start.
Yeah, But the funny thing is, I wasn't even something got the
best reaction of the night, Like, like genuinely it was surprising, But
Taylor Swift is on another level at this stage, like kind of ridiculous to
see one of our bat one of our biggest bands, dwarfed in comparison,
but the most famous person in the world, So it's fair. What I
will say is God Paramore were just cementing their position as one of our very
best bands we've got who like I've come await one of my bigges takeaways come
from from you. This was like they could do a stadium show themselves,
surely, Like it's gonna be something that you reckon. So do you reckon
if they did like a one off, like a one or ones in London
or yeah, someone like that. I felt like they could because I mean
they sold out, was it two nights at the other arena? That's not
far off than a smaller stadium. You know, they've now just had this
show supporting the biggest star in the world, and I'm sure they would have,
at least across this era's tour been able to you know, win over
a handful of the seventy thousand odd people at night cramming into these stadiums,
So that's a possibility. They looked so at ease on a stage that's us
And again, well you know you have like big stadium stages. This is
one of like the most ridiculously sized stages I've ever seen at alive. So
because it's like there was like the stage and then there is a like eager
rap that comes to the middle of there's a there's a big stage in the
middle, and then there's no that extent forward from there with another stage about
two thirds of the way back like huge stage, and again like that's all
that's used because various points of the Eras tour really funny video power more like
so they actually kind of had to choreograph using a stage this size because they've
never been there but been on something this big before, so they were like
make sure everyone could get their moments when they would come forward. But yeah,
so like seeing that, like them having to like kind of spread across
this like mammoth stage with like members on like different parts of it, Zach
all at the back for the entire time. Like but they they came on
and just looked so natural, open with hard times, which like a really
good kind of like way to get a more casual crowd on side, because
you know, it's a big, catchy popstorf. Essentially, Yeah, did
that that was all at the very backstage, and then they sort of came
down to the middle and from that middle stage where they like it's like a
diamond, so aged the members come to a different point of it. They
went into their Burning down the House cover, which like that cover is so
much fun at this point, like and it really I was like, well,
like, okay, we kind of comment like putting that on a tour
with their support in like tens to a lot of those Testison probably never even
heard of the talking heads like bold choice. But again, because it was
just such a like bubbly fun cover, it really won people over it.
And when like towards the end of it, Hailey is voguing her way back
up the stage to get to rejoin the rest of the band, I was
like, this is the best thing ever. I'm having the best time already
and Italian come on. Still into You was what got the best reception of
the night. I went fucking mental for that, which was really great.
And again, how can you not it is like a perfect pop song.
Yeah, I mean a decade ago that was a fairly unavoidable song. Yeah,
and I think that was it is That was one that like really got
people great. The middle part of the set was where they lost a chunk
of the crowd because when they went to like Forgiveness and told so some of
the slower like stuff off, God, what's the album after laughter, I
was abou fa, no, that's the song on it. But yeah,
like when they went out was I was. I really liked seeing those songs
live actually, but they definitely weren't the most kind of like immediate attention grabbing
sort of things for the For the Swifties, they did do. The only
exception which I'm not a fan of, but when they've come when Hailey and
Tall have come right down to the stage which are like the very first point
of the stage, which I was quite near, and like they were singing
it to each other and it was really remarked. I was like, oh,
you know what, I'm I'm swept up in the moment of this and
a perfect song to play for again a big pop stadium crowd, like yeah,
absolutely, yeah, And it was another one everyone was singing because again
really simple chorus. They got everyone singing along. And then it was the
best plot of the whole thing for me was before going into misery business,
Hailey Williams getting the entire stage of Swifties to throw up the horns. I
was like, yes, it's such like great mo and I was like,
oh, itsil of Paramol. And then also during the Solar Misery, we
just heard two stepping across the stage. I was like, only first Taylor
Swift corn so I swear to God, but it fucking ruled title track of
This Is Why to close out, like absolutely brilliant. Just one of those
was like again like a decent exports where they played for like forty five minutes,
like nine songs, so they really like you still got your money's workrom
Seeing Paramore, I would say like as a fan, but it was again
like it was kind of a moment like yeah, okay, they are not,
you know, the biggest ups star in the world, but it was
one of those most was like I could see him pulling off a stadium show,
not like immediately, but on the next app cycle if it goes well,
I'd loved him. Give it a shot, because they're selling out arenas
super fast at this point, or at least get them you know, headlining
download or reading actually like top of the bill by themselves at the big festivals.
Like that's the thing the very least I would expect from param On the
next cycle, because they are just that damn good. The live band they've
got at the moment, the lineup they've settled on for this tour so good,
Like they are so together, even though like there's only the three official
members, the kind of the back man they've got all seem to be really
engaged and and like there's a real nice chemistry between all the members, which
again just feels like when I first saw Paramore back right before the lineup sort
first started imploding and you could see them visibly or hating each other on age.
It was so nice. It's going to be like this kind of change
panel. They are having so much fun just playing together, and it was
just really good. And then Taylor Swift came on and played a massive three
hour set that was incredible from one of the most ridiculous live shows I've seen.
And I won't buy it for that because again, as Parent says,
you're probably all sick of hearing about it. Yeah, but there you go.
I'm going to hear more about that later on Mark. Meanwhile, you
were at I'm going to say an even bigger event. Tell us Mark about
what you were doing sort of this past weekend or whenever it was happening.
So while Sam was heading to Scotland, I was deserting, abandoning your post.
I know. I hope you kept it safe. I kept it rocking,
thank you so much. I headed over to Finland to see the No
Repeat to the Metallica double Night the Big Payer in Helsinki with my one of
my best mates, our mutual friend Nathan shout Out, and it might have
been the most rocking thing I've ever done. First of all, just Helsinki
is just for the sort of the weekend because it was the two nights Friday
Sunday, the whole city just becomes sort of like Metallica town. Yeah,
there was the pop up shop. There's lots of stuff about Helsinki doesn't take
much convincing to take. No. Yeah, it seems like just a very
casual, like metal head place. I think Finland has the most like per
percentage people who are into metal or people who are in Yeah, we got
to the stadium. We missed Wolfgang Bang Heilen's band, who were on First
Architects right now, obviously because of the controversy, I'm sort of at my
lowest enthusiasm level for architects ever a band I do generally consider myself a big
fan of. But I thought, fuck it, they're here, they're in
front of me, They're gonna be playing songs I do enjoy. I hope
I enjoy it. And it was, to be honest, a bit lackluster.
The new songs. I don't know. Maybe it's because I just don't
know them as well. They just sort of landed like a wet fart.
The band didn't really put that much energy into it. Maybe they're not used
to playing a stadium. You know. I still love singing along to Doomsday,
I still love Black Lungs. I still want to like Architects songs.
But compared to the supports on the second night, it wasn't that great.
A bit let down by Architects. I was stood up all day and my
legs were in agony. I was grumpy. I was like, oh God,
we were stood quite near the front. But then next to sy of
Gold comes on and suddenly my whole night is a blur. The way that
the show works is it's basically just a circular stage in the middle of this
stadium. Yeah, and we picked our spot. We managed to get quite
into the front, but we picked the spot because when we walked in it
was the only place that had shade, wasn't in the sun, and it
turned out to be perfect because that's where Metallica were for the first few songs,
which, by the way, we're Creeping Death, Harvester of Sorrow,
Lebra Messiah, and King Nothing. They're looking at the setlist for both nights.
They're structured very similarly in terms of like they do an opening run and
then they put like a a seven to two season song in the same place,
and then you know, kind of it it goes They've got an instrumental
song in the same place, it goes in a fairly you know, you
could you can imagine what they're going to be. But those opening runs,
like you say, Creeping out after a Sorrow, le Masiah, King Nothing
into Lucks of Turner on that first night, which is like a complete fucking
banger, and then on the second night, which you're gonna get to as
well, Whiplash for whom the Bell tolls, Ride the Lightning Until It Sleeps
into the Statle track Aercent two Seasons, which again is one of the better
songs on it. You'd be flying for the opening fucking twenty minutes or so,
wouldn't you. Yeah, But this was my first time seeing Metallica,
obviously a lifelong Metallica fan, like I imagine most people into metal are.
But the first song I'm seeing being Creeping Death James Hetfield is ten feet away
from me, ten feet ten meters away from me. I was lightheaded.
I was so giddy. I felt like a kid again. Especially Nathan and
I are big load defenders, and the whole time leading up to this we
were like, I hope we get some load songs. They usually don't.
Blah blah blah. Track four, King Nothing starts and I start screaming,
and that was probably the highlight of my life. I'm watching King Nothing,
robter Heels Crab walking over there looking at me, throwing the horns at me.
It was amazing. I saw Nathan soul Leaver's body when Fade to Black
started, which just it was just magical. And then you get to the
closing I guess, last half of the set flipp Andel Oryan nothing else matters,
sad but through blackened fuel Seeking Destroy then Master of Puppets. And the
thing about that set list is that is explicitly a setus where they've left out
half of their biggest songs for the next one, like the fact that you
could do a closing run like that. Specifically, when that is the case
and you've left out half of the songs, it is just like unparalleled,
isn't it unbelievable? And black and started and I was like, no way,
No, they can't be doing that, There's no way. I was
giddy. It might be the best show I've ever been to. Just from
pure excitement. Yeah, I couldn't believe what I was seeing. Well,
like I said, your your videos of that first, particularly when you're up
close, it looked like because again I've seen Metallica, but I've not seen
them in that kind of proximity, I suppose, And you know, I
really hope that whenever the next time I get to see Metallica, I maybe
I would like to get like a standing ticket and you know, try and
get us in there as I can. And it is that kind of you
know, just I know that they people love to besmirch them over the years
for one reason or another, many of which may be valid, but I
think it is one of the things where it comes down to it. You're
in front of them playing those songs and everything just flies out of the window,
doesn't it. Everything just becomes like, yeah, this is like the
mecha. Yeah, you become starstruck. It's like seeing a Pokemon in real
life. As are the guys. That's them, that's them actually there?
Yeah, me with Taylor Swift, how did it work with them? Because
I know obviously when they do that kind of in the round thing, they
also like I've never seen any other drummer do. It's so weird. But
Lars, like his kit moves around, doesn't it, and like he plays
different bits of the stage. It's really weird. He has four drum kits
and they just each drum kit revolves so like people in the crowd can get
a good view of him. But he'll just wander along to another bit of
the stage. A new drum kit will rise up, he'll sit down,
start playing the song on end. He'll scream that's right, that's right.
People's faces moved to another drum kit. Yeah up, closer person with Lars,
not close enough. And then again, so that first night is particularly
if it's like a first Metallica show and they've not played for example, enter
sand Man, they've not played one you go into the second night and once
again looking at you know that opening aroun mentioned but also like you know,
the the closing run towards the end where they've got the other half of like
the massive Megga conquering songs I should mentioned actually as well the support acts for
the second day. He also had a bit of a run in with didn't
you. Yeah, So the day off this afterday night, we headed to
a local rock bar called the Riff. Is this the one that had the
children about him table? Yeah, the hate Lounge, a little bit at
the back of the bar, reserved for children at bottom, just in case
the boys are in town. But if you're in a band, I guess
you can use it as well. And I we're just hanging out, you
know, drinking overpriced drinks. Then who, to our wandering eyes should appear
But Chris Kle, like the squeak from the Instinct to cover. I just
went up to him and started chatting. Got we got a picture with him,
and to be fair, him and the other guy I can't remember his
name, which is bad. But another guitarist, the new guitarist has come
in recently, so I have no idea who is either but yeah, to
be fair, lovely guys. Seems like one of the more like less insane
members of five fingure Death Pines, which when you consider that beid like we
were saying, it's the members of five thing at Death Punch who'd walk in
he would maybe kind of want to hang out with, yeah, compared to
the other ones. Yeah, the main two seemed like maniacts less. But
yeah, So there's pictures of me that exist with members of five hundred Death
Punch, and they were lovely and they said the words rock on to us
about four times each, and you know what when we saw them, we
did rock before the Death Punch fucking decimated the stage. Though my favorus Icenin
Kills were on yes in Firnis. Yeah, and compared to Architects, so
you would think would be better suited to playing bigger stages. Icenan Kills killed
it, in my opinion. They filled the space so well. Course is
like a grave mistake in American Nightmare. Just doing the mad Ead song,
Yeah, yeah, doing Worst Vacation, the like proper stompy wacky one.
They were so great and they did all the Spencer was doing all the shit,
he was cutting up bodies. He was being chased by zombies. He
cut someone's arm off and he was like waving it at people in the crowd
who didn't know what was going on. Wonderful. I love that band five
and a death punch. To be fair to them. When I was a
teenager, I was a fan. I still am a fan of bits and
pieces, mainly the older songs. They killed it like the crowd were super
into them. The crowd was first pumping the entire time, and some of
those songs are just undeniable hits, and they know how to play ye stadium.
Ivan Rudy was stomping around the stage like a little toddler. My home
with the Squid was flinging his beard about. I had the best time ever
watching under and over It, which is a banger. You can all fuck
off. You can suck my, you could suck exists for me going absolutely
like you can hear me screaming you can suck my, And then at the
end of that verse where he goes fuck you, the music cuts out and
I'm screaming that so loud that everyone around us is turning to me, like
looking at me, but in the like yeah, this guy, you know,
this guy gets it. This guy's a knucklehead, this guy knows this
quid. I had a lot of fun, even though every second song was
like one of the worst songs I've ever heard. I guess it's a new
one. Everyone was like, this one's gone, Welcome to the Circus,
And honestly, it was so funny. It's one of the worst songs I've
heard in a while. But they were great, I should say for this
night. We were up in the up in the seats. Yeah, two
very different Metallica show views. Yeah, which is great because when Metallica We're
playing the sun was on you. You were watching the sunset, you were
watching the call Cutulhu with this beautiful background, and it was sort of magical.
They have so many fucking songs like you say, We're flashing for whom
the bell tolls to red the lightning into until it sleeps again? As two
load maniacs there when until its sleep started, I could have burst into tears.
That it comes in the middle. Oh mate, that might be my
favorite moment of the whole show. Screaming love is a for later word.
This awhere, this sasswhere banger, that is a banger that's a classic.
I don't care who knows it. I would think most people who would probably
agree that The Day That Comes is a of twenty first centry Metallica songs.
It's it's the high point of the album, isn't it. Really. I
Mean, I'm a big fan of all like meire Long as well, but
I think if you were going to pick like three or four songs from the
last twenty years of Metallica, I mean, there's a reason that's one they
still play you obviously, We're Moth and to Flame from Hardware, Moth and
to Flame third from last. It's It's got a prime spot, isn't it.
Sitting in that closing classic run, I was like, yeah, fair
enough, I'm happy to see you there. I love that song and it
works really really well live. It's just a monster. So in in you
know, a weekend you you doubled my Metallica show tally. I am,
you know, tremendously hoping that download wasn't just the only UK shows that they're
doing for this thing, because they've done like you know, Arena own headline
shows basically everywhere else. Seemingly, I am, you know, seriously hoping
that I get a chance to do what you've done, but you know,
in this country, but yeah, hell of a thing. And then I
guess, you know, kind of slightly more quickly because we've been there's a
lot of live stuff that we've been talking about. But you're rocking in and
there did he because you were also, you know, in the following days
the bit all the big rock shows are happening right now, Weezer Pumpkins arenat
all. Yeah, two bands. I am a massive fan of Weezer,
obviously, people who listen to this podcast now maybe too big of a Weezer
again. I was seated, devil was on the balcony because those were the
cheaper seats. Just that lovely like lovely little time smiling away to Weezer.
I've seen Weezer before. They played most of the songs I saw them play
before, apart from actually you know what. They played the three three songs
Sweet at the end of everything will be all Right in the end. They
played the first two songs of that and it was sick. I never expected
them to play that, and I love that like Sweet. I wish they
played the whole thing. That was really cool to see and I'm not going
to turn Down see sur Fax America. You know what I mean? Yeah,
I mean a couple of things. A couple of things on the setlest
jump out to me. One of them is a burnt jam with everybody get
Dangerous chorus, which is pretty good. And also they I knew they were
doing this, but they seem to be covering celebrity skin by hole along this
entire run for some fucking reason. Billy Corgan connection, I guess, I
don't know, just an idea that Rivers had one day to be fair.
Last time I saw Weezer, they covered I took a pill and I befa.
I will take celebrity skin all day. Yes, nothing from Van Weezer,
but room for a celebrity skin. And then this Pumpkins set list is
because it was a co headline with two big X planes. Pretty that's like
twenty four songs, pretty massive. Yeah, Pumpkin's got two hours and Weezer
got seventy five. I think right, it wasn't much of a cool headline.
Really. I love the Pumpkins again, like I like pretty much everything
they've done up until the reunion with James E. Ha, which is sort
of heartbreaking to say. Similar to Metallica did a really great opening for But
Only for Me, where the Everlasting Gaze, which is a banger, the
first song on Zeitgeist, which is an underrated Pumpkins record anyway, but that's
a big riffy rocker, then a Youtwo cover track three. It worked well,
like I simply be the only one there who knew what was going on.
They changed it like it actually worked really well. They made it really
dramatic and riffy. And then track four today come on, I mean big,
the crowd went mental. Yeah, yeah, that's about the time when
I would kind of switch on. I suppose I am. There's a lot
of Pumpkins records. I'm not massively familiar, to be honest, that one
is. It's controversial, but I like it a lot. It's got a
lot of riffs on it. Yeah, I think starting like that sort of
set up the night how I was gonna go. Where they would play,
you know, nineteen seventy nine or Tonight to night, the crowded go wild,
they play anything else, the crowd just nothing apart from me going crazy
for panoptikon from Oceania like I had during Mayonnaise, which seems to be a
lot of people's favorite Smashing Pumpkins Soning song, It's one of mine. Hearing
that song live as soon as it started, the whole arena just became filled
with warm guitars and reverb and I could have teared up. It was so
like euphoric and overwhelming where I think about all the like years and years of
my life. I listened to that song and the woman next to me put
her arm on me and went, it's good, isn't it? Because I
was vibrating in my seat. Was one of the most beautiful in a sort
of weak full of beautiful live music moments for me. That was also a
highlight. You know what that Adam songs aren't great, but they pointed one
that I had never heard before because I quit listening to the Atom Records after
part two, called Spellbinding, which is a banger. It's like a proper
Cynthia like pop rock thing. I think it worked well live. It's got
a big chorus on it, and I wish more songs on that project were
that good. It was a mixed bag with the Pumpkins, but I really
liked it. As super fan who wants to see stuff from every album,
who wants to see Rhinoceros and all that. I had a great time.
Well there you go. That is a massive loadown of a load of stuff.
Also happens to be last week when I did a little Fortress review news
wise, it was very sort of light and I didn't have much to kind
of do by myself. But this week seems to be the week that everyone
if it's just the summer is hitting and people are announcing on their albums for
the September month and so on, but this has been the week that everyone
decided to drop singles at the same time as well. There are even more
singles out there than we're going to you know, mention. Now, we're
just going to go sort of in depth on the bigger ones are attached to
particularly exciting albums, and I guess, you know, there are other places
to start as well, but I guess the one that's had the most conversation
around it this week, just because it landed a few days ago and it's
something we're particularly forward to is the return of Nails, who released their first
single in I guess five years because they did that I don't want to know
you ep. But it's the leadoff track from their first album in eight years.
That's how long it has been since you will never be one of us.
This is a record that we have of course, kind of anticipated by
doing our complete you know, four ord hour whatever it was, Nails run
down on the Patreon. We were heavily you know, anticipating the return of
not only you know, New Hour, but also just like you know,
a new lineup of Nails, because two thirds of the band left from where
they were last around, so we do have now news and all that to
go on. The first thing is, as you know, on that kind
of cue, you know, they've unveiled the Nails lineup, because we didn't
know anyone else's gonna be the band other than Todd Jones. Prior to you
know, this point, it was just Todd hanging out in the studio with
Kurt Blue, wasn't it. But now you know they're on the cover of
Decibel and everything. The Nails lineup, you know, Mark, you know.
Twenty twenty four includes on the drums, Carlos Cruz from the thrash metal
band war Bringer, Andrew Solace on the bass who plays in Despise You,
and Apparition, which I believe is Taylor Young's kind of death metal band,
and on guitar Shelby Lermo from the band al Far, who I mentioned last
week, not the one who played Fortress, but the kind of black and
death metal type band who I got that band confused with. So just looking
at that line up there, none of those are people who like a it
necessarily would have sprung to my Oh yeah, that'd be the obvious, definite
person that you know, Todd Jones will get. But that is a very
neat cross section of like, hey, you've got thrash metal in war Bringer,
you've got like power violence or grinding despise. You you've got you know,
death metal in you know, all Far an apparition. That's a really
neat cross section of like all the different kinds of extreme music that Nails draws
on. But we also have, of course, the news of a new
album, which is called Every Bridge Burning Sorry August the thirtieth, via Nuclear
Blast, and we've got the first song actually on the album, the album
Opener I Believe, which is called Imposing Will. And I haven't seen an
exact runtime for the album myself, but I've seen word that it's about fifteen
minutes long. Hell yeah, I guess is it's not even you know,
because there was the trend of every Nails album growing because the closing track will
just get longer each time. But if one if fifteen minutes is an exact
thing for this one, that would actually put it only you know, longer
than Unsilent Death, but I think slightly shorter than all the other ones.
And it's mad to be waiting eight years for a record and it comes to
it's fifteen minutes long. But I guess it's fifteen minutes of music that you're
gonna savor, as you always do with Nails records. The first track,
Imposing Will, which we said we is, uh, the one that we
have is about one minute twenty seconds long. And I had such a weird
experience, like, oh my god, a new Nail song. I put
it on and then it was gone and I was like, that was the
Nails song, you know what I mean? Yeah, But also it's just
eighty seconds of everything I want. I enjoyed the experience. It was just
weird to have eight years of anticipation fly by an eighty seconds. Yeah,
like ten seconds a year, you know, like exactly. But at the
same time, like given anything given we've done the Nail Special, I was
so primed to just like lose over new Nail, Like I had completely rediscovered
my love for this band this year, after being one, as we said
on the special, being one who did fall out with them a bit in
the sort of the latter years of their initial run. I hit a play
on this and was just grided by the most disgusting noise imaginable. And it's
like the first one half it is just like horrid, horrible noise, sound
like an absolute maniac and then it like switched into that sick riff in the
second half, and I was like, we're fucking good lads. Nails are
fucking back doing everything I want from them, And again like, yeah,
maybe Amm's only fifteen minutes. I I'm tiling Death is thirteen minutes. That's
my favorite Nails record. I will listen to the album on repeat. I'm
sure when this album drops and I listen for the first time, it'll finish
and I will hit play immediately again, like I'm gonna listen to this album
like four or five times in a row. With the second it drops,
Yeah, like brevity whatever, it is just delivering exactly one the new lineup.
They like, like, I'm sure, and when you get the album
you might be able to pick up some differences in the lineup, but at
the moment, it just sounds like Nails are back doing what Nails do and
it's exactly what I want. Yeah. That The only thing there that I
did sort of pick up on is again, I heard this track before I
saw the news of who was in the lineup, and the thing that stuck
out to me on this track as being maybe slightly different was the drums,
which on that fast part of the beginning did feel to me like a very
like a thrashy kind of like rather than the Tailor Young kind of like everything
at once like overwhelming, like avalanche of power. So that did feel different
to me. So then I was quite like, oh shit, it's the
guy from Warburing, and maybe that kind of makes sense the you know,
the drop into the second half. Yeah, again, I like the way
they patented nail Trick, where we spoke about a million times, but they
kind of meet and out where when that riff first comes in, it's got
that like that is when the double bass comes in, and I was like,
oh shit, that that like the first half of the second half of
the song is the most It sounded like old Nails, like the classic lineup,
but then they kind of move into that like real laid back, kind
of hard chorus groove for it, and that was like a nice light again
a subversion of what you already thought that riff was you mentioned about Todd.
Todd sounds so like gargly y on this track, like and think, you
know, thinking about you know, his vocal tone changed a lot from like
Unsilent Death to you will every one of us, as we spoke about on
the special, but thinking about like this, you could literally say, you
can, like show this song to someone who's never heard Nails before and then
a song from Unsilent Death and they would probably think it's a different vocalist,
Like he has changed so dramatically of a band life, I guess in the
vocals and how like gargled and mangled, because that's the one where they're sort
of the most or like fucked up. To me, it sounds like his
kind of more death metally tone that he lent into and You'll never be one
of us, except he's got even more fle in it, Like it's all
the kind of just all over it. He sounds like more of a flemy
monster than he ever has as opposed to again in the early Nails day when
he was like a shouty hardcore I definitely, I think definitely not like I'm
silent deaf way that is a more hard vocal I was just so like,
oh my god, And I guess looking at this album, it does feel
like maybe more of an extension of you will not be one of us in
terms of like even the artwork is you know, they've gone to the same
artists as you and ever be one of us, and kind of it a
setically looks very very similar. Yeah, and the production feels similar to that
record as opposed to you know prior, so I maybe you know it.
I don't know how many sort of wild leads from record record, but obviously
we have different lineup, so there will be a kind of different chemistry going
on. Mark. You don't necessarily have the you know, four hours of
recent Nails, you know, heavy discussion to kind of have it so fresh
in your mind. But about eighty seconds of Nails still just slapped around the
chops. Oh my god, this thing ripped it is I can't get my
head round it. It's like being handed a really really hot potato. Yeah
it's there, it's affecting me, it's burning me, but I can't really
grab on to it. A couple listens to be like, Okay, yeah,
this is the structure. These are the rifts because it is just a
fucking yeah. It sounds razor sharp, it sounds amazing, And yeah,
Todd's my favorite thing on it because he's just like a fucking little GHOULI like,
yeah, this thing's nasty. So that is the return of Nails.
There's a huge American tour they' pronounced as well. And one thing I notice
is Tailor Young's when it Tailor Young's current band's Dead Body are on that tour,
and it's nice that you know, they're kind of still on good terms
and you know, touring together with how that kind of you know, the
lineup fall up kind of went. But yeah, Nails August thirtieth is when
we're going to finally get good vibes kind of around Nails for the first time
in a while, doesn't it? Like Yeah, and speaking of you know,
vibes that you know may have a kind of impact on people. I
thought Nails would just be the runaway kind of like story of the week in
terms of new music. But it should not be discounted of course that The
Black Dahlia Murder have just released their first single without Trevor Durnard of course,
with you know Brian, their longtime guitarist, who took over the frontman role
in the wake of Trevor's passing. They made their live return last year,
I believe it was, and we knew an albu was coming. We've got
news on that now as well. The album is called Servitude. It's going
to be out at the end of September, and they have released a single
from it called after Math, which is not the opening track on the record,
as it sometimes has been a trend. It's sort of in the middle
of thish But I mean, actually I spoke to Brian recently and he said,
yeah, we will have new music out by the time we played Download
Festival. Left it really late in the day because it's download vegetable as we
were speaking. But I guess technically it has arrived and they will play it
if you know you happen to be there. But obviously this is a massive
story in itself, just in terms of like the moment of you know,
of course we were all so absolutely devastated when you know, we lost Trevor.
So this is one of those kind of like come back narratives in a
way, you know, seeing kind of uh. And you know, when
we got the news that Black Donlay would even be continuing, I remember we
said it kind of very similar to the way we have a power trip.
It's kind of like expectation will put aside, right because it's just like goodwill
in terms like whatever you guys in your own time, what to do,
we will be there to kind of see it unfold. My you know,
obviously my curiosity with us is primarily what will the what will it be like
hearing the Black Dahlia Murder with a different guy on vocals, because they've never
had that before, and Trevor was like the most distinctive vocalist in you know,
that scene, next to the likes of Travis Ryan and so on.
So like focusing I guess on that aspect of over necessarily the quality of the
thrental of the song, which is, you know, it's all kind of
a given because Black Dola mata Or was just great, aren't they? So
you know, it's a Black Dahli murder song. It's a ripper. Great
cool. How do you feel about, you know, hearing the Black Dahlia
Murder with with Brian on the vocals? I mean again like one of it
is like let it be what it needs to be. Don't compare it to
Trevor. Yeah, like and doing that, I was like, yeah,
you know what this fucking rips like again, it just it just did everything
I want for a Black Dahlia Murder song. When it goes fast and hard,
there's a spooky bit. It does all those things. And again,
like I've noticed enough to really again pick up every little nuance in the lyrics
and the vocals. What's different. I mean, the lyrics are gonna be
a big part where we've talked so much about like transway with words being so
like metal Blade. Did they helpfully they posted on the music video for the
song. They posted the lyrics in like the comments of the trip rests.
I did ever read the lyrics for this song, and I thought that was
quite I gat it was heartening in away because the song is called Aftermath,
and that is like, you know, you're not what the ghost inside it
was? The ghost it is the kind of it is one of those stock
come back from a tragic event sort of song times. Yeah, and you
think that could be what the song is. You know, you'd be expecting
like a really heavy song maybe in that regard. But the song again,
the video opens with like this is about a meteor like strikes the planet and
kills the stinky humans who are called apes or whatever. And you know,
maybe there is a kind of metaphor in there about kind of a you know,
a meteoric impact or anything. But like when the opening, like one
of the opening eyes of song is like the burning rock fell from the sky,
laid waste of the old world, most did die, and it just
it feels like, yeah, but murder come back and they've written a song
just about a big meat or smashing the shit out the world. Like it
feels like more big storytelling, which is what yeah, isn't it. Yeah,
it's kind of like, ah yeah, nice business is business as usual
in a really good way. And I like Brian, like you know,
Gremmling in it up all over the kind of video like kind of doing his
weird or walks around and stuff, and you know he doesn't sound like Trevor,
of course, but I was straying. Maybe it's the thing that obviously
I was looking out for the most in terms of this particular song. But
the vocals did feel like the most striking element to me in terms of like
there is an ability you can hear him Brian to kind of alter his tone
and stuff for effect in the way that Black Darling Metal was always so good
at, you know, whether it's creating characters or like making particular lines ro
of the tongue a little bit more. And obviously it's because he's the he's
been the one of the primary songwriters for their entire duration. He knows it,
he understands it, like even if he wasn't the vocalist, how their
songs and their patterns work and everything will be like a second language to him.
But I was struck by obviously all this is a you know, a
different vocal personality perhaps to a Trevor, but it's not an identicate growler trying
to fit in what it does. It's someone who understands how it works.
This is what I really liked about. It was again like if I'm Nonu
Curaco, definitely it's normally because I've find the vocals can be a bit like
just interchangeable. And again I'm not gonna say he is as like character driven
as Trevor, like Trevor's We're gonna got one song to go on exactly,
We'll wait to hear the album for that. But but I still felt I
was like, no, this is a this is a distinct vocalist who is
right changing his tone and inflection across the song, and it just shows that
like they haven't lost that part, which is why they were probably the first
like death metal band I ever liked. Yeah, he's sound savage on it,
and I love that bit halfway through he gets a bit more grandiose,
I guess. And really the reason I'm here is the riffs rip. The
riffs haven't missed. Like the lead lines all over it are just so so
satisfying on the instrumental front. When it gets to the part that stuck out
to me was when it gets to the kind of the duel solo part.
I did do a little kind of intake of breath because you know, obviously
now with this current lineup, they brought Ryan Knight back, so they've got
Brandon Nellis, who was their guitarist the last couple of records, who's amazing,
and then Ryan Knight, who was sort of like the fan favorite ly
guitarist from their kind of most classic records. And the two of those guys,
you know, ripping it together is as much a draw on this record
as anything else, I suppose. And yeah, like I said that,
the solo in this song was kind of the moment where it kind of went
up another notch for me. Yeah, it's really hard to listen to this
with their sort of the most amount of goodwill ever, but I think it's
a really it takes a weight off. Yes, you know, not that
I'm the biggest Black Dollar Murder fan, but there was a part of me
like anxious about pressing play. But as soon as it starts and it's like
the ending of it is so big as well, Like it just hits such
a spot. I can't wait for this record. Yeah, it's not necessarily
like immediately like the most again the the you know, the most essential Black
Dina Murder track you've ever heard, But it's an encouraging song I think in
terms of you here really good starting point. Yeah, and the things that
we too exactly the things that we were sort of not concerned about, but
you know the things that we were kind of you know, looking to as
like what how will that be? We've got some encouraging answer to the questions
here, and so you know, we'll hear the rest of it in September
it arrives, and yeah, massive, massive amount good will towards the album
and and you know those guys in general, I Vis are also back.
They have announced not an album yet, but this will be apparently the lead
single from whenever that album arrives. High Ves have become, in the last
kind of I guess, you know, year to eighteen months or whatever,
one of the kind of runaway popular bands, certainly in UK punk and hardcore,
but they have been making a global impact as well, maybe beyond some
other UK bands, which is interesting for how kind of regionally UK they their
music is and how they feel. But you know, the new Highvis record
is going to be one of the most kind of anticipated records in that kind
of world for you know, the second half of this year. So they've
released a single from it called mob Dla and I really fell in love with
particularly that's the last High Viz album I've listened to it a lot in like
the last year or so, and this was cool because it was it's got
like a it feels like more of a hard core So I'm actually than a
number of their big ones do when you think about trauma bonds and stuff like
that, which I like, massive could almost be like you know, nineties
Oasis or something. This has got kind of like a growlier kind of tone
and you can feel the kind of like the meanness and how it punches you.
It's still got all that kind of brit Rock feeling to it, like
the vocals that the tone's voice is unmistakable, but because yeah, it is
roughed up a little bit, there's a like like a harder edge to it
that means it doesn't feel was not like it's not trying to be cool.
It's just kind of like once a fight was you. Well, I guess
it's where they've been out hard core fess and stuff like that that maybe is
rubbed off on them. So they're still doing what they do, but it's
just a bit rowdier. Yeah, But to me, it's got this kind
of you know, the lyrics as well. We're talking a lot about kind
of you know, kind of urban decay and those kind of themes and to
me that kind of intertwined where that sort of stomp it has and maybe start
thinking about like killing joke and the kind of like the kind of weird little
leaders it's got kind of like you know, gray urban apocalypse sort of aspect
to it. But you know, I love it that so that's cool.
You know, it's the kind of thing where you go that could be kind
of idolsy, but they've kind of gone the you know, the good side.
Yeah, and it has got a catchy, kind of spokenish sort of
hook as well. And we've also got blee from Within. It released new
single which again we don't know attached with anything an album I think right now,
but they seem very kind of like, oh yeah, big new blean
bling within track with them. That song is called Hands of Sin Mark we
have You Here by by Happenstance. So, you know, Bleeding from Within
a new track. Why can I not say their band name, Bleed from
Within is what they're called. You like them? Mark, I'm presuming seeing
as this just sounds a complete I don't again, bleeding through Bleed from Within?
You like him? You probably like this song, right, Yeah,
I was a bit this is the slightest change the production on it is slightly
more sounded down, so I was a bit worried. But it has a
crazy blast beat part and it is a mate. I love the chorus.
I think that's one of the best ones they've done. I'm so one on
it, as I would be of the band's going to piving to a bit
more of a standing down, so they're still sounding like meaning and heavier.
The other bands have kind of taken this slight more radium metal approach, so
I was like, yeah, no, I'm fine with this. Like sounds
pressive. They're still keeping the metal, they're putting blast beats in. And
then we also have what feels like it snuck up even though it has I
guess been about three years or something, but it feels like we were slacking
off an Offspring album far too recently for them there to suddenly be another Offspring
album. But they have announced their eleventh album is going to be coming out
in October on the eleventh, and they've released a song from it, and
I like, I put this on and generally the first ten seconds just maybe
go like nah, pissed, But for some reason, I heard it,
and I thought, part of me thinks that Mark might like this because it
sounds like it's like a weird nasal Beach Boys song that sounds like it's been
written for like kids TV or something. And but part of me went,
I wonder if Mark is going to really vibe with this Offspring song. You
know what, I can't help it songs that sounds like power, like eighties
power pop, or that it also has vibes of like those post Ramones bands
like The Queers that I really like as well. I don't think the chorus
is like lead single standard, but I like it. It's fun and I
can't I can't deny when a song just ends with a minute of every hook,
every vocal line just being blasted on top of each other, like Dexter's
saying some ship and the robot woman All I want to do is fly?
It was, I don't know, it's the off Spring dumb Ship. Yeah.
The main chorus with the kind of the poppy, you know, sort
of vocal effect is just so like relentlessly chirpy. That's how I like it.
Baby, Yeah, I can't help it. I think it's really fun.
And if the record is like this that sort of boards well for me.
There you go. And then we also have Keeping Them Coming Weirdly a
string of songs that are kind of you know, we don't know wan to
talk about remixes and stuff like that, but there were sort of a few
that were like, actually kind of interesting. We've got a boy Harsher remix
of a song from the latest Chelsea Wolf record, a House of Self Undoing
if you don't know boy Harsher. They were really good, stand out kind
of like you know, kind of you know, goth electronic music kind of
project. And I saw that as a headline they were teasing. I was
like, oh cool, you know, that's you know, fucking amazing Chelsea
Wolf song. I'd like to hear a boy Harsher remix of that. And
I was expecting something kind of dark and claustrophobic, but they make it really
nice and like the original Chelsea Wolf version is like the dark, claustrophobic song,
but they've taken that vocal line and somehow made it feel like a lovely,
kind of like goth chilling at the beach kind of thing. It's really
it's really nice of so you know, enjoyable, and we also have Lamb
of God. I have announced that they have got a twentieth anniversary you know,
kind of whole shabbag rolling out by for Ashes of the Wake Beau.
They've obviously been playing on that a tour Mastador already, but they have got
a kind of you know, reishoo of the record. There's a song from
a B side called Another Nail for Your Coffin, and they have real I
said, this is a weird thing because I guess the original tracks from this
are the same original tracks that were on it twenty years ago, as Chris
Adler playing the drums and everything, but twenty years after the fact, they've
inserted guest versus from the vocalist from a Levolence and a Koopli Khan, which
is just kind of a strange kind of old and new situation hearing again that
like twenty year old Ash of the Wait style production that we all know and
love, and then fucking Alex from Malevolence turns up and is quite unmistakable,
and it's like, oh shit, yeah, I think that was it.
He's like quite junk to hear him on such a like you're right song that
sounds like it's from twenty years ago. But I'm down with like Lamb of
God getting some cool new vocalists on their tracks. Yeah, I've never heard
the song before, but it's a fucking banger even. I mean they were
quite good around a little bit. Yeah, so they can leave this off
the record, and yeah, all three vocal performances on it, they just
send like big scary guys. And that's what I like to hear, absolutely,
And that's why you went to see Fighting Thing at f Punch. And
then finally, Health have released a kind of reworked version of a song Ashamed,
which was from last year's Rat Wars album, and this was the headline
that struck me. I guess they've reworked it, featuring guest appearance from Lauren
Maybury, the singer of the incredible Scottish pop band Churches, And that would
maybe go oh fuck yeah, because such are like wait, what the fuck?
Like I saw that, like so down with it. Though, like
the Rat Wars album, like I liked it, I didn't go back to
it tremendously. I know that we have someone talking on him in the questions
a while ago, like people went fucking mental for Rat Wars, like massively
surely the most a claim thing that I'd ever done. Again, I thought
it was quite good, but not quite to that level. But basically the
original version of the song, you know, I'm sure I enjoyed it,
but it's not necessarily ingrained itself into my head massively for me to kind of
you know, be like, oh, hugely different to the original version or
whatever. But Lauren sounds great in terms of like coming on that very heavy
based because I like when Church is lean into kind of the depeche Mode and
stuff like that. Anyway, So I was just kind of even if I
hadn't even listened to I just thought it was a wonderful crossover to get,
like, you know, for me, one of the coolest kind of you
know, artists in the pop sphere. Yeah, getting into something like legitimately
again kind of you know that's non metal adjacent heavy. I mean, like
Churches have links to a lot of alternative music. Yeah, Robert Smith on
the last album, which is amazing. Yeah, and the other members have
been in bands that I like, post rock bands, Yeah, Aerogram Show.
So like, yeah, I d of showing Mum. I was like,
no that she's a collaboration. I mean health for working with just about
everyone they can at the moment they are getting around. Yeah, this is
one of the more exciting pairings I thought. Yeah, yeah, Alex on
Fire, seeing as we've done a whole lot of coverage on them lately as
well. They've just announced that they've got a live album coming out with Born
and Raised twenty twenty two. So this was I think their own Born and
Raised festival that they did. But they've weret a live album coming out with
the you know, one of the shows from that if you want to hear
you know, Alection Fire and their current live incarnation probably you know some wicked
songs included from you know, the newest album that obviously weren't around las time
they were reread sing live album. So that's cool to hear. And now
we are going to turn to the live music side of things in terms of
announcements and what's coming up and stuff. As you know, it is download
festival, as we said, there are as always there's the post download gush
of kind of tours and announcements and stuff of bands who were involved at that
festival, which we'll get to in a minute, but I think we should
also I guess at least acknowledge something that has kind of been very much dominating
the kind of you know, news call for the past couple of past few
days in regards to Download Festival, which is essentially a load of bands,
primarily I guess probably entirely hardcore bands or you know, small punk bands who
were playing on the lower stages. I think the dog Tooth stage in particular
at Download was massively effective, but I know there was also there was some
kind of other weird side the VIP area. Can they have their own little
special stage where a bunch of bands were playing. Yeah, But basically,
again, the smaller hardcore bands who are playing primarily those two stages, a
number of them have kind of come together and increasingly drop out of Download Festival
in the days kind of running up to it due to essentially an organized kind
of boycott campaign. We're taking issue with Barkley's, who are one of Download
Festival's sponsors, and it's because Barclays have links to military equipment companies who have
been you know, involved with equipment being used by the Israeli military in Gaza
of late, and so you know, in order to essentially, you know,
draw attention to that link of you know, download to Barkleay's Barclays too,
you know, Israel. A number of bands have dropped out and decided
to boycott, you know again these Barkleay sponsored kind of events, and this
conversation already got you know, I kind of exhausted by it, even tho
obviously I have to acknowledge how significant and important it is, and it would
feel wrong to not mention it to something as to eat here, even if
we have spoken about it quite extensively and things like the T and M discord
or whatever. But essentially a kind of, you know, a brief version
of you know this kind of this discourse that's been going on is the you
know, the obvious thing is I essentially agree with in terms of, like,
you know, the decision of bands to you know, boycott and do
what they do, even if it's not I don't think it's even about a
kind of the discourse has primarily been I suppose kind of is it helpful or
not? Kind of you know, dropping out in advance so close to advance
in particular what these have kind of been doing. And that's been again kind
of the slightly exhausting part of the conversation to be because essentially I look at
it and I go, that's your decision, fair enough, Like even if
I thought kind of it would be more helpful to maybe to go to the
event and say something on stage or whatever, which I do hope that,
you know, maybe some of the bands who will continue to play. I
mean, is what I mentioned that slammer when I was like, I was
sort of paying into what bands were actually using their platform to speak out about
it there and there was only a select few, but as I would hope
some of the bigger bands that donode would do the same. Yeah, yeah,
And I would actually maybe say that the most helpful thing would probably be
a combination of approaches where maybe like some of the larger acts if they are
you know, so inclined, you know, but in a perfect world,
I would obvious in the perfect world, the wouldn't be a problem. But
in terms of this situation, I would like to see, you know,
bands playing the festival make statements and maybe again some of these smaller bands who
are coming from a more DIY community like hardcore, you know, drawing because
sessusally, what they're doing is they're trying to draw attention to specifically the Barklays
thing, which I think most people probably would not have been aware of.
Specifically the Barklays were a a sponsor of Download Festival and b were involved in
with the kind of Israeli military in that way. And I think now as
a result of this, you know, boycott, a lot more people at
the very least now do know those things, and that is why they've done
it. And so I look at that and go, I guess you know,
to some degree, even if again it's a kind of drop in the
ocean, some kind of impact or statement has been made. So I go,
yeah, fair enough. Yeah, now that that's very much where I've
come at this from as well. I mean, this has got covered by
BBC like like you can sell you want about whether, like how much of
it has made If it's made ten people aware of the link between Barklays and
Israel and all that, then it's made a difference small or large, like
it has started a conversation. You can like say that like oh it's Magativity's
bands pulling out. You can link to other things where they've sort of but
they've done this and blah blah blah, like it is impossible to be morally
pure and perfect at all times. But this is at least the very least
these bands starting this has started a discourse, has typed people to be where
I think Dying Wish have been the latest. Yeah, it started off.
I think that the main three who really kind of kicked off were Pest Control,
well Petrol again, who are a UK band, and they were particularly
kind of pushing this. But then there was the trio of Speed, Scowl
and Zulu or that spot Crow, like prominent international hardcore bands where maybe a
larger international profile than someone like Pest Control. Yeah, they did that,
and then I think Ithaca did it, and then I think again Dying Wish
and done it, and maybe by the time it's goes negative frame and overpower
some UK hardcore bands, they've joined in and again it maybe you know,
like you say, the impact might be so small in terms of like all
it is. It's making people aware of, you know, the Barclays kind
of situation and their links and everything, and maybe that is not a game
changing impact. But what do I think is more important That someone can get
to see Speed at Download Festival and they'll probably see them at some other show
or that you know, this thing is said and this statement is made.
I think that's probably the more valuable thing. And you know, there's been
this kind of story developed because people like Ronnie Radkey, for example, came
out basically saying that that the bands involved are hypocrites because some of them,
like Scale for example, have you know, taken sponsorships from places like Tucker
Bell and these other kind of like larger, you know, huge companies,
some of whom may have links to again similar things to to Barclays here,
some of who might just be kind of large international corporations who are always inherently
kind of you know, you know, have those less ye have those less
savory links somewhere along the line whatever. It's easy to say that when you
stand for absolutely nothing, like Whenny Radkey does that, and I think,
yeah, and I immediately question that guy's motives because his is the mindset of
if I point something out that you've done that hasn't been perfect, then that
makes your current act of doing something pointless. It's the kind of agotcha kind
of mentality. Right, no one should ever do anything to make any kind
of any positive change because like you once did this thing that I could put
up my back pocket and go no, no, no, no no,
But I would dismiss that and go okay, But an impact is being made
now, like a specific issue is happening here that bands have decided to go,
you know what, right now, at this point in time, we
would rather make a statement than kind of blindly go along with something that we
don't want to be complicit in. And I basically what I'm saying there is
any time to try and make a positive change is a good time, right
Like regardles tool, you can always try and try and be better and better
yourself and all that blah blah blah. Yeah, regardless of what money you
might have taken from Taco Bell or whatever, which did get them a much
larger profile. To you know again, is kind of the weighing up thing.
I don't think that negates the positive impact of going, hey, let's
do this in a more kind of intellectual sense. I thought this was interesting
because basically it raised an idea about kind of corporate hardcore, because it's been
something that has been borderline celebrated. I suppose in the last couple of years,
bands like Scowl or Turnstile or whatever, you know, kind of when
they get these huge like oh my god, you know it Turnstiles on the
po using Attackabella advert kind of you know X things sponsoring up or whatever.
Again again, I don't know these links or anything, but like, you
know, I'd be fascinated what a festival like Coachella, who are a lot
of these bands have kind of you know, done high profile sets playing you
know, you know what kind of corporate sponsors are involved with something like Coachella
for example. How far does it go? I suppose, because as we
say, it's an interesting place right now that has been surprisingly under discussed.
I think until this moment that hardcore for the past at least five years,
probably more, has been like the source of buzzy crossover mainstream bothering acts from
like legit heavy music, right yeah, from Code Orange the kind of late
twenty tens to not Losing Turnstile whatever, to the new breed of Speed and
Scowl and so on. And hardcore is inherently a kind of anti capitalist,
you know, anti colonist, whatever kind of movement, and that's what it
prides its ethics on. So when you see something like this where essentially a
load of like the buzziest mainstream crossover type bands from the heavy world, like
a Scowl have looked at a corporate sponsored event like download and gone, we
don't want to be there. That's interesting in terms of like you know what
ceiling does that kind of put on those kind of like when we spoke touch
about kind of like ar these hardcore bands are breaking through and going into the
mainstream. The interaction with like legit corporate kind of structures over again issues like
Gaza, But it could be any number of things really where those lines are
kind of drawn. I think it's a fascinating conflict that we're seeing play out.
Be interested to see kind of for the next few years how it kind
of affects these kind of a bounts. Yeah, you can't, like I
think with where the world is out, you can't purely get big on a
DIY basis like minor thret can't happen again now, Figars you can't happen again
now those things that like blow up and their kind of scenes and like their
legend grew, you can't replicate that now about playing the game to some extent,
and so this is what bands have to do. But then it comes
to the conflict of like how far will you play the game before you have
to kind of go no, this compromises my, like our morals to such
an extent that we can't be part of it anymore. And I think that
this is what a lot of the bands are going to find themselves, where
they will take the deals they can to you know, get a leg up,
but when it comes to drawing a line, they I think a lot
of these bands will still find a line they can draw. Yeah, I
think it's you know, Download Festival is the biggest dedicated rock event in the
UK. If hardcore as a kind of movement, because again someone on Ithaca,
for example, Ithaca pulling out was very much like, oh, let's
take advantage of the momentum that's been added by by that's been started by the
band, the kind of add our voices to the crowd, moment of like,
oh shit, all these other bands are doing it. Let's kind of
let's try and you know, add more steam to this movement by taking this
popent to do it ourselves as well. If hardcore as a kind of collective
as a movement decides to remove itself from the equation at a place like Download
Festival and then you got to think, like, you know, across Europe
or whatever, how many other festivals kind of equivalents will also have these kind
of sponsors due to again issues like Palestine. What ramifications does that have?
I guess on the kind of you know, again, the prospects of the
genre in terms of popularity, I don't know. It's like because it's almost
like if they go and seal themselves off to the kind of you know,
the outbreaks that this is hard cares or whatever kind of of the world,
maybe the subculture becomes more self contained. Maybe the subculture grows and you just
get more people, you know, diverting away from places like the big core
areas, and yet just more people go into your outbreaks or whatever because that's
what those bands are. I can see it becoming sort of a self perpetuating
scene, like where they just it becomes its own separate thing away from the
rest of rock music. And you know, there's no ethical consumption under capitalism.
But the point is you've got to do something. They're doing something,
yeah, and that's the that's the point. That's what you that's all you
can do. Really, People like Ronnie Radkey are fucking cowards. He's a
fucking clown and everyone being like, oh, well ah, then it's not
going to make a difference. You don't know that at least they're doing something.
What are you doing? It's a drop in the ocean, but you
know, drop ripples or whatever the cliche statement, but you understand the point.
I'm getting it. So where you go somewhere it does. And as
I was saying to kind of really bring us home on this very long new
section, we do have the post download currently what we've seen at least there
might be more coming next week, I don't know, but what we currently
have to go on in terms of, like you know, big announcements and
stuff, and there are some big announcements. The first one is that Blackveld
Brides and Creeper are going to be headlining Wembley Arena together, which feels I
wasn't at all surprised to see it necessarily because they've just done a US tour
together where Creeper will support to blackfeld Brides, so it feels like they've very
sadly gone, Okay, we're already kind of you know, in cahoots.
Let's take this over to the UK and try and do something big, which
will be big for both bands, I guess, but you know, it's
fascinating to think. Again, Creeper's first stab at something like an arena will
be a kind of co headline with a band like Blackfelt Brides. It's it's
a normal because obviously they're so there are I liked in a lot of ways.
You know, they both like dan Zig Like it's a perfect tour package
for that American tour. Wasn't it to get Creeper in front of more people?
Yeah? Absolutely, I mean I would have a lovely time with this.
I think I'm just cooled. I'm just glad to see Creeper take a
shot at and arena, even if it is in the situation I'm probably gonna
go and have a great time. Yeah, it's very strange. I'm like,
I see it and it doesn't feel right. I mean, good for
them aiming for Wembley. I hope it does well. Obviously I love one
of those bands, and I like the other part of the me is nervous
about it though. Yeah, I don't know. I think they've judged this
and gone okay, our combined might right, we can have a crack at
it, And I think I think they could do it. I think they
could. I don't think it's off the mark, So I think it's just
interest because it's it's essentially what it is. It's one band on who have
been on the way up and another band who are kind of slowly coming down,
and they've met in the middle at this point where and gone, Okay,
this is the exact point where our popularities are kind of comparable and we
can kind of combine fourth in this way. Yeah, and again in the
America at all, where black felt brids are clearly bigger, it made sense.
But seeing them kind of on equal pegging here is just like again very
I'd be fascinated just to see kind of what that crowd looks like and kind
of what the shows look like. I mean, you know, Creeper,
it's a night for Halloween, so you know it's everyone's gonna be making it.
Oh yeah, that's why they fucking booked it. You know. Whatever
the Creeper show looks like in terms of pulling out the stops for it will
be big. But again, there are apparently there are supports to be announced,
we don't currently have them. I think that that might weigh up kind
of how how attractive this night looks to me, I suppose kind of what
that ends up, what that whole bill sort of ends up looking at It
would be hilarious if this is the time that they finally got great pleasures and
to others imagine, but is it along with black Verbris? That'd be amazing.
But it'll probably be exeter again when't it, because that's what always happens.
But that is happening also happening fucking crazily. Pantera are doing a UK
Ireland actual headline tour for obviously the first time, and they're current incarnation if
you want to call it Panterra. It's the first time since you know,
the I guess the early two thousands, and I don't know, I know,
even part of me always thought that Panterra as it is might just kind
of, you know, get that big festival money. And now the idea
that you know, the actual just headline Panterra show at X venue will be
happening feels mad to me. There is not a show in my direct vicinity,
so it's kind of removed the moral dilemma to me of like would I
go or not? Because they're not playing nim so I can you know,
not think about that, but you know, if you are one of the
people who you know, decide that you do want to go for the various
reasons that we've kind of spoken about Panterra, there is actually a tour happening
which is fucking barmy. We also have While She Sleeps have Headline, have
ann Outsdad Big Headline Tour. There's a been a bit of kind of I
guess, confusion over the size of the venues here because some people are like,
oh, it's a downgrade because they played out it's under Palace, and
then some people like, oh, it's massive because they haven't done a full,
you know, tour of the country of this size. I would guess
it's fairly normal. I suppose for a band who have just headlined one under
Power show to then go, okay, we're going to go up and down
the country in kind of like large academy size venues. Like there's two nights
at the Forum, there's one at Manchester's Victoria Warehouse. That seems about right.
I suppose, Yeah, two nights of the Forum is slightly less than
Brixton. I think so that that would that would add up about right.
I guess it feels weird that it's slightly smaller, but you know, as
the Power would have drawn peoplerom all over the country, whereas the yeah They'
going everywhere. Yeah no, I would have imagined on the twelft doing Alley
Padi. They probably would have done Bricks And again they've done two nights of
the Forum. It roughly makes sense to me. Just feels weird while she
sleeps tour and just kind of shrug. Yeah, but there they are in
terms of tracking with their current popularities and aner Shakarive announced what feels like about
their twelfth headline tour for the current album, But it might be the first
one that actually, you know, try and go and catch because not only
they playing near me, but also they've got teenage wrist along the in support,
which makes that very just give package, that isn't it? Yeah?
Oh my god, I can't wait. I mean, I'm going definitely come
on. Yeah, not coming near me, there's none of this. I
mean, how dare they not come to London? They go to folks I
don't know where Folkstone is, to be honest, I've been to gigging Folkston
before. I saw while she sleeps there in a tiny pub in the middle
of the go ahead. So that is where we are currently at with all
the you know, sort of it's mid download I suppose right now news we
will come back next week with anything else and maybe hopefully we'll have a couple
less new singles as well. But we also now finally have the releases for
this week in June, and there are a couple of albums that I'm really
looking forward to. Here. We start off with a Black Country Communion with
their album V five. Of course, I did not even realize the Black
Country community were like still around. This was like a I guess it was
a story at the very start of twenty tens. I don't mind those early
couple of records, but they're back. That's obviously very classic rock, their
people like Glenn Hughes at form of Deep Purple, Joe Bonamass or whatever.
We then also have if you you know, if you want to kind of
more your alternative rock type fix this week I think on Pure Nooise Records is
the early November with an album that I read as being called self titled.
I don't know if it is like excel tut album or if they've named the
album self titled I don't know, but as the self titled album from the
early November whatever that turns out being classic stone of rock of course from Fu
Manchu with the return of Tomorrow mainly the kind of the you know, high
profile stuff I suppose weirdly is coming from the underground this week where we have
the long long awaited new solo album from Miss Julie Christmas which is called Ridiculous
and Full of Blood that is out. I've heard very good things about that
album. Also, if I've heard very good things about the new album from
Crypt Sermon, which is called The Stigian Rose, who are kind of one
of the you know, current sort of more leading bands in terms of like
old school doom and heavy man and that kind of fair for some more kind
of you know, well, I guess, more pure heavy metal stuff.
Where's Lucifer's Hammer with being exist and on again more on the kind of you
know, riffy side. There's a resin with Burden out on Sergeant House Records.
One of the records I'm really looking forward to is of course the new
from ulcer Rate, which has maybe the hardest album title, not only of
this year, but one of the hardest albums ever. The new Ulcra album
is called Cutting the Throat of God hard. How fucking sick is that?
And I hope that the album lives up to that title because the last one
was sensational and in kind of death core fair again, we're going down the
sort of death metal rabit hole in various ways here death core. We've got
Downfall of Mankind with Purgatory into a track from that the features Matt Haytheakers.
Of course, it does a couple records coming from the all kind of brutal,
you know death metal, fair Malignancy with Discontinued and Embryonic Autopsy with Origins
of the Deformed, which has guest appearances from the likes of James Murphy and
jacko in on there. Then we also have I think a more kind of
like grindy, you know punk kind of fair groin with a record called Paid
in Flesh and in black Beltal there is fell Warden Legend Forged in Defiance,
which is the band I mentioned on the Fortress review last week because it's one
of the guys from Fen doing a new project and it's got Alistair from Ashenspira
and drums and that kind of thing. So there you have it. Thank
you very much for listening to us on this kind of extended edition of Hyperblasts.
We will be back. We'll be back with the Sepulateury Special mainly next
thing, but then fairly sue towards the end of the month, we will
have the reviews bag for June with a handful of those records in question going
under the ninth and I guess in terms of the you know, big summer
and where we'll all be that at the end of the month, sal we
go to outbreak as well, so we'll be talking about But yeah, next
week we're back here with a normal high Blast, so we'll see you there
for that. Thank you very much for listening, and yeah, bye bye