Greetings and salutations every one. A Rich Wilson walking too Fantasy Baseball Live.
Today is the fourth February, about three point thirty in the afternoon. As
always, I'm here with my good buddy mister Tim mccleoll. Tim, how's
it hanging? It? Barely is today? Rich? It's starting pitcher Sunday,
so we know what sort of chaos that brings. But something different happened
with the intro. I heard it loud and clear. That's unusual for me.
It isn't know what's going on. Hopefully it's not a it's not a
harbinger of problems. But no, I heard the intro tune and everything clear
as well today. Yeah, that's very odd. Yeah, why is that?
Because we were I did a test recording, so we're okay there.
I don't know, don't I don't see why that would be. Yeah,
we are we recording. We are recording. I mean yeah, I don't
want to stop the recording otherwise you got to do it all over again.
So yeah, I know how your day is going. Yeah, chaos,
chaos, and just a bit more chaos. Yeah. I've got the four
four Dynasty leagues all drafting at the same time before we came in the air.
I had to make two picks, and then I made the decision.
Something really annoyed me. So one of our Patreon members said, hey,
wouldn't it be nice to analyze all these six new dynasty leagues and be able
to like to see which ones are going where and so forth. I said,
that's a really good idea. So I go over to fan tracks and
it's got you know, I go to the draft results. It's got a
little button called download. You download the results. It puts it in a
nice spreadsheet. I'm like, this is great. So I'll be able to
link everything and to tell you exactly where, who went where and so forth.
And I go, let me see what CBS is nothing buckus nothing to
him, they got nothing. So I go, this just this, that
was the straw that broke the camel's back. I go, I'm done.
I'm done with CBS. We're moving. So I send out an email we're
moving, we're moving. I like enough, I mean enough already, I
mean that's like common stuff to download results and be able to like you can't
even do anything. So I just said, yeah, it's if they put
it out there and it's almost like they they don't care, like it's they
just have an updated that's that's something that is. You know, modern systems
software allows you to download stuff. I mean, what's wrong with that?
And they just haven't updated any years and it's it's just it's just no good.
It's so when you can't do like basic kind of administration, it's it's
time to move on. So send out a note to two of the leagues
five and six and said, hey, who's with me? So and I
don't even even an old guy like me. Okay, I've gone from control
C, Control V to control F. Now if I can handle strategic moves
of that nature, okay, you know the big gun's got to be able
to do at least something, right, Yeah, so so, so I've
already set up both leagues, or I set up one league and I copied
in one one team and it all looks good. So I just slurp the
rest of the teams in in the next couple of days and send the invites
out and bit bam zally everybody will be in. We'll be ready to roll.
So I'm pretty excited to them. So yeah, no, I don't
blame you. You don't when you're running multiple leagues. When you're running a
league, you don't need headaches. When you're running multiple leagues, it just
takes headaches times however many leagues you're running, and the smoother, the smoother
the operation from a commissioner's perspective, the better off it really is. You
know, you can always spend so many hours in the day, days and
the week, weeks and a month and on and on and on. Right,
Yeah, yeah, I wrote a note to everybody. I mean,
look, CBS used to be the best in the business, big corporate entity.
They had big layoffs a number of years go. I mean, the
same thing could happen with fan tracks and you don't know, but at the
moment, they're ten years, twenty years ahead of them. They're probably ten
years ahead of them. I mean, so even if they get sold and
decide to get rid of everybody will be so far ahead for the next five
to ten years it just makes sense to move on. So that's what we're
doing, ten moving on. Yeah. Well, and you know, because
I do several leagues, a couple of leagues on on Roto, I gotta
be honest with you. En Roto does a great job as well, I
was going through the player pool and some of the deeper players, and they
got a lot of them listed ones that CBS doesn't. And again, there
are there are, There are a lot of options out there. Yeah,
and if you're not happy with what you're getting from one explore look around.
You might find something out there, much the same as you just recently have
with fans. You might find something out there that works for you. The
thing I find amazing with CBS this this software bug has been there for five
years. So when you manually add a player to a person's team, little
diyewalk box comes up and it says what team do you want to put him
to? And what's the player's name? And you do all that and you
say put the player onto It works perfectly. The next guy that requested.
If you haven't closed down the draft room and you do it again, it
looks like it's putting the guy the Newton, next guy in. It doesn't.
It repeats the previous guy that you just put in. So let's say
you put oh, dear lord, I didn't know that. Oh yeah,
that's if you miss a step in there, then you got wrong people on
wrong people over the place. Oh dear, and I've said that. They
say I can go back to twenty eighteen when I sent the original like,
hey, there's a problem here, and they say, yes, we're aware
of it, and they haven't fixed. It's like it's only it's only six
years. I'm sure there IT department is swamped right. Well, if there
is an IT department, that's just it. I mean I think there might
not be. But anyway, nobody wants to hear us complain, hear me
complain about uh stuff. So how's your week been, mister McLeod. We
just talked yesterday, so I guess I know, yeah, yeah, yeah,
pretty much the same as yesterday. Get her take. It's been busy,
busy, It's been hectic. I'm I'm starting to uh get to the
stage where I'm organizing everything I'm involved in. I've got dates set up and
just getting my my timetable for the you know, the last two weeks of
February into March, just trying to get things straightened around because, uh,
with the schedule starting early this year in Korea, you know a lot of
people want to have it done before the twenty twenty twenty first of March.
Yeah, so it's good. Really. Yeah. Yeah, it's got to
be done a little early. And that's one thing I've noticed. I think
I noticed it with fan tracks today. A lot of them have the seasons
starting in twenty ninth. That is twenty eight, that's correct. You have
to go back and out. That's very important for everybody to know that.
Go check your providers. They are starting the season of the proper season date,
not when the Padres and Dodgers play. You have to go and adjust
the schedule. I just did that with all the leagues. Absolutely. Yeah.
It wouldn't allow me to do it fan tracks in that one league I'm
setting up right now. So I don't know what. I don't know how
that's gonna work. It make me, make me a co commissioner. I'll
go in there and wack it for you. I know all. I have
the mysteries. I know how to do that. Yeah, I know,
I'll certainly. I'll certainly make you actually have to hit the little calendar icon
next to the date. You can't actually type it in where it has the
date in there. There's a little calendar. I click that on and it'
select the date. Oh okay, well I will I will name you cool
commission. I know what I know. Sometimes when does it when do shut
up? As compared to standing up? I'm not going to stand up for
that one at all. But again it's something important because hey, if you
only want one hundred and sixty games of the Dodgers and Padres, that's one
way to get it done, isn't it. Yeah, it's it's yeah,
you gotta, you gotta, you gotta. I think the default was a
mistake. It should be the twenty for everybody. But I'll show you how
to do that. Tim It's uh because at first I went in to try
to type it into the data. Didn't work. But uh, I don't
know. That's wrote. I wrote software for a living, Timmy, so
I could kind of know how stuff works, and like, okay, why
didn't that work? What else? What else are they trying to do here,
Timmy, let's talk Let's talk baseball. Yeah, baseball, Yeah,
A couple of three little additions. I think the first thing I know this
isn't particularly fantasy baseball related, but I think somewhat is, and that is
The Angelo's family has agreed to sell the Orioles to a group headed by David
Rubinstein. Who is is owns the carl who's the founder of the Carli Group.
You don't know if you know them. They're big private equity firm.
They're worth billions and billions of dollars, a very famous guy. And the
ownership group also includes Cal Ripken, includes Mike Bloomberg who was a former mayor
and runs the Bloomberg Network, et cetera. So they got some big hitters
there, and but they only sold I've put all my I've put all my
money into old stereo equipment for this, So let's let's tell it for new
listeners. It was funny. We were I don't know how we got off
on this. And Tim's mom gave him a lot of money. It was
like two thousand dollars right back in the sixties or seventies. Correct, it
was back in the early seventies, about three thousand bucks. Yeah, and
which is probably worth I think I did the how much it's worth that it's
worth a lot of them A couple did. Tim invested. Now he bought
a stereo, which is so awesome. Come on, Richard, you're you
know right, you're a musician, You've you're interview. Yeah, it's yeah,
it's I know, it's what you do when you're seventeen eighteen years old,
right, and then you get this jerk Rich Wilson, it's gone.
Let's see how much that's really worth. It was like forty thousand dollars or
something years like that. What's like, Oh my gosh, Hey, come
on, I got at least fifteen hundred cash sitting there. Baby. That's
true. Hey, you know it could be a classic. You know,
you might be able to, I don't know, get some some I'm sure
collector would would buy an old stereo like that if it's a good shape.
Who knows, I got I got my fingers crossed at Joe Bonamassa at some
point in time just used to collect more than just guitars. Is that you
have the guitars he has? Yeah, six hundred plus six hundred six nuts.
Anyway, So back to the Angelos. You know, they don't completely
sell it until Peter Angelos dies, you know, passes away. He's ninety
four now, not in good health. It probably will be in the next
few years, you hope longer for his sake. But it feels like,
at least you if you're an Orioles fan, it could be just as worse.
I don't think it can be any worse than it is now. But
I think it's a good thing. With all of that talent on there,
maybe they'll be able to retain them, maybe they'll be able to add to
the team. What was your thinking when you heard the news. I was
happy for Oriol fans, long suffering Oriol fans. Any group going in there,
I think is going to be an improvement. And you know, hey,
maybe it's just a coincidence. Maybe it isn't a coincidence, but within
what forty eight hours of the announcement, they have a top ten starting pitcher
heading in their direction, and either way, coincidence not I I have a
hard time believing that even the Angels family would make a deal of that nature.
Okay, so i'm I'm I'm giving I'm giving credit to the new ownership
group and if they're not deserving. I did a little math, Tommy by
adding in Cormyn Burns fifteen point six million dollar paycheck for this upcoming season,
which actually isn't a whole lot of money for a guy of his calendar,
which I found to be pretty fascinating. That's that's an increase of twenty five
percent of their payroll. So that's a that's a big change. You know,
the end, the Angel's family wouldn't have done it. They wouldn't have
done that. It was shocking, but they did the you know that,
they did the Craik Kimbrel thing. So I bet you that they're not done
yet. I bet you the Orioles are not done. No. I I'm
liking what I'm seeing, and especially for fans of the Orioles, they've suffered
for a while. They're in they're in a situation where they should be ecstatic
about the future when you look at you know, the players already on the
team, the players waiting in the wings, you know, the kids,
et cetera, et cetera, and with that cloud of you know, hey,
they couldn't even they couldn't even get through the first wave without mentioning,
well, it's going to be tough to afford these guys in the future.
I don't care how you approach the game. If you have to, if
that is the way you're going to play, you don't make that announcement to
your fan base. I know. Yeah, that was that was callous and
not very well thought out. At all. It showed an arrogance that I
didn't really like, and I'm I'm happy for Orio fans really. Yeah.
Now, on the other side of the coin, they got a lot of
Bars clients. I mean, Corbyn Burns being one, Corman Burns, Jackson
Holiday, Adlie Ruschman, Gunder Henderson might be their four best players. So
it's it's and we know that Scott Bars takes his guys to free agency,
so you know it might not in the in the end do them any good
at least short term as these guys come up for free agency, that they
might lose most of not all of them. But I think long term it's
a good thing. Yeah, And you know what, I agree that that's
that is traditionally the way Boris operates. But you know, hey, if
an offer is made to Gunner Henderson for three hundred million plus tomorrow, I
hey, as strong as Scott Borris might feel, Gunner Henderson might feel a
little differently. Sure. Yeah, And that's that's big money. And I
think it's easy to say with the former with the Angelos family, right,
those offers wouldn't be there anyway, So it's a non issue at least now
moving forward, there's a possibility that it can be an issue. But Ronald
o'counya kind of signed for what two hundred million dollars up the same time.
I gain it's been a few years, but I think Ronald Acunyo is considered
the far better player. So I don't know if I think if Gunnar Henders
Gott offered three hundred million dollars or ten years, he'd probably take it.
I don't know if you, I don't know if that's what the market would
would offer him though. So yeah, I guess for me, at least
there's the potential of a path there resolving maybe some of these issues where there
was, Hey, there was no trail to be booting down, okay under
the prior regime. So I like it. Like I said, I'm happy
for one final thing about Scott Barrs. Just remember everybody players signed with Scott
bars and the deal is I will maximize your return. That's why they signed
with him. They want they want a different kind of agent. They go
with a different kind of agent. But that's what Scott barrs. That's his
brand. He gets the most amount of money for you, and it it
can be hair raising, like Blake Snell is going through at the moment where
it's like what the heck is going on? And but he almost always gets
it done. Yeah, I mean he does. Again, Hey, if
I if i'd recommend Scott Morris, if if my kid was looking for an
agent, I wouldn't have any problems with it. But like you said,
it doesn't always work, oh does it, Mike? Mike mustokas, it
didn't work out there he got a pillow coondrict still did okay, but who
knows to me? But after the sale, Tim brings it up. The
Orioles acquire Corbyn Burns the Brewer for Joey Ortiz, dl Hall and the Orioles
first round competitive balance. You can now trade those just a competitive balance pick,
which is I don't know if that's the first time it's been done,
but that was actually pretty cool, little my little brain, I thought that
was pretty neat. And I think the great John Dene smart guy, I
mean, he tweeted out, I think this is a little light and I
wanted to know your thinking on that, because again it's only one year of
Corbyn Burns and Joey Ortiz and Dale Hall pretty good baseball players. That first
round competitive balance pick. That's thirty number, thirty four row. It's a
pretty valuable pick. What's your thinking. I think it's okay, Okay,
I it's not. It's not a great deal for Milwaukee. Personally, I
would have held out. I would have held out for Norby maybe, okay,
just forced the issue or try to and you know what, Milwaukee might
have done that, okay, and they might have been told it ain't happening.
So you know, they took the best offer obviously that they could get.
It's a fair offer. It's okay, it's not it's not a great
offer. But again, you've only got Corbyn Burns for one year. It
is a rental, so I think that has to come into play. And
the draft pick. The draft pick's nice. Yeah yeah, hey look I
did. I will help them. If you're a member of our patriots,
like you got a chance to kind of see my write up. I dug
deep on these guys and Dale Hall's got I've said it all along that now
see nasty stuff. He cannot throw strikes. He's moved to the bullpen,
and now the Brewers say, hey, we want to make you a starter
again. I wouldn't put it past them, Tim that they have some success
there. That guy's got really really good stuff. Yeah, he does.
And the only concern I have with Ortiz is sort of a two pronged concern.
What does this mean for Willia DAMASO He's in his walk here too,
Timmy, Yes he is. And the other concern I have is hopefully it
doesn't delay the arrival of Tyler Black, because right now roster resource is showing
Ortiz at third base. Yeah, I think Tyler Black's a better player.
But I would not be surprised if Willi Adamas to see you later. Well,
Hey, the Dodgers need you short stuff, don't they. Well,
Gavin lux is supposed to play short so he's pretty good player or two?
Yeah, I no, uh, that would That's the only concerns I have
is you know, what what does it mean for Willi Adamas short term and
Tyler Black? Other than that, I think it's fair to say that Ortiz
is going to be given a shot to be an everyday player. Yep.
To me, if if I'm tracking what the what the Brewers are doing now,
I mean to keep Willia Damas and Corbyn Burns and all you get is
a potential draft pick for compensation. You gotta move them now. I mean,
that's that's that's the smallest market team in all of baseball, and they've
got to play that game. And if they're gonna move Corbyn Burns, the
logic would be they're moving Willy A Damas or Tease slots in at short,
Tyler Black comes in at slots in at third, and then they've got they've
got a nice team, controlled infield for many years to come, and pretty
good in field too. Joli or Tez can play. I mean, he's
a really good defender, hits the ball harder than you think, he's got
a little bit of space, a nice little player, and he's never he
wasn't gonna he wasn't gonna jump over Gunner Henderson and Jackson Holidays. So he
was knocked. Well yeah, and you start to look at the pitching and
you know, hey, right now you're looking at Freddie Peralta, Wade,
My Colin Ray, Joe Ross, D L. Hall. What I think
is moving Burns now, I think that what it's doing is creating, over
the next year or so, an opportunity for Robert Casser, Jacob Mazerowski,
Aaron Ashby, and Carlos F. Rodriguez. Do not forget about Carlos F.
Rod Reno, and F is not the four letter of That guy can
pitch. That guy can really really pitch. So yeah, the Brewers have
some young arms. In addition to D. L. Hall, there's five
names that just brought up. We're going to see these kids over the next
year, year and a half, some as some as soon as this spring.
I think there's a good chance at one, if not two of those
guys breaks camp. Well. Miss Roski is the potential stud in that group.
He's a Tyler glassnow carbon copy, big tall guy that throws one hundred
miles an hour and has absolutely no idea where it's going. So which was
Tyler Glasnow as he was coming up and then all of a sudden he was
athletic enough he figured it out and became a really good picture. Can't stay
healthy, we can't. I mean we throw that out of the equation,
but I mean Tyler Glass, as we've talked many times, timmy filthy,
filthy stuffs, and miss Roskie's got filthy stuff. So it's an interesting guy.
Yeah, I think I think we could see fifteen starts from Robert Casher
this year. He's not bad. He's the number four guys. He's not
bad at all. But look, it's true, Timmy, the people in
the Brewers, pictures in the Brewers get I mean, no one thought much
of Corbyn Burn's coming up or Brandon Wood thought they were like okay, and
those guys turn out to be studs. Yeah, and you know the ideal
haul into that mix. Yeah, it's not like we haven't seen Kevin Gossman
pictures in Baltimore struggle and then have success later on. Correct, that is
correct, particularly in that old regime. I think I love Corbyn Burns,
Kyle Bradish and Grayson Rodriguez. That's a pretty nice one through three. And
then let's say they add Dylan C's. Well, you know, even if
they don't add Dylan c So, okay, you've still got John Means and
Dean Kramer. They're okay pictures. They're four or fives, right, I
think John Means could be more than that. But yeah, I Dean Kramer's
are typical back of the rotation guy. But yeah, that's not bad.
Well, put it this way. The days of everybody looking at Baltimore and
slotting them into fourth fifth in the division. Yeah, that's no, that's
those are days days gone by. Look, the Orioles one going away last
year, best record in the American League. Not suggesting they're gonna be the
best team in the American League, but it's all sitting there. It's a
great young team with some of the best prospects of the game coming up.
And now they added Corbyn Burns and have the prospect capital to at pretty much
anybody else they want sign me up. Well, yeah, the competition in
the Al East is going to be even tighter moving forward. Yeah, Boston's
gonna have to Boston's gonna have to make some moves, right, you took
the words I was I was speaking the words when I totally i'm if I'm
a ret Slux fan, I'm really disappointed that they they've not done much.
Well, no, they they really, they really haven't. And their biggest
offseason move could be bringing theo Epstein back into the Fold as an advisor.
Yeah. Well I'd rather have him in the Fold actually doing real work advising,
But yeah, I mean he's definitely got the pedigree for sure. The
other deal that you mentioned it on our podcast on yesterday, and the A's
acquire ross strippling. Look, it's not great stuff, but he throws strikes
to him and he's going to be pitching in well. He was actually pitching
in a good ballpark with the Giants, but now it's pitching in even a
better ballpark. What's your thinking there? Any interest? No? None at
all, none, zippo. He'll be the sort of guy that I'll recommend
on the waiver wire once or twice if he eats up at various points in
times. The A's are going to win forty to fifty games, Okay,
yeah, is he going to win more than six games? Seven games?
Odds are pretty low, and I'm just staying I'm staying away from Oakland pitchers
this year. They'll all be players that I add in season as injury replacement,
you know types that's you know, other than possibly Miller as a as
a late closer pick. I'm just staying away. I you know, it's
not a good team. It's not a really good setup other than other than
home field. It's yeah, it's the players you add to try and compliment
as you struggle through those hamstring injuries. That's where stripling bits in for me.
Okay, Yeah, that's that's fair. That's fair. But he does
throw a strike, So if he gets on a bit of a roll,
I mean, I think he can be decent for a couple of weeks,
particularly at home against some poor competition. And I actually think the I think
the A's I know this is a bold statement. I think they're going to
be better than they were last season. Maybe not much better, but I
think they'll be better. Yeah, I think the best move for that organization
would be new ownership, but that ain't happening because he's making a bundle.
Yeah, he's moving, getting somebody to pay for him to move. Totally
gave you there, to me to take a break, and we've got the
next hour and a half or so all about the starting pitching preview. Send
me. I've got my computer open, waiting for my draft slot to come
up and see if anybody has issues going on. And I've got one eye
on that and one eye watching those murder only murders in my building. It's
on Hulu, and I have to tell everybody it's with Steve Martin and Oh
Martin Short and Selena Selena Young Selena Gomez, and it's I can't tell you
how good. It is, Tommy, it is. You know, it
is a hardy Boys kind of murder mystery type thing with some obvious clues and
lots of twists and turns, almost like a Scooby Doo thing. But there's
so much humor in it you you realize nothing's really serious, right, It's
just it's just a form to tell jokes and be charming and it somehow it
just all works. And even Selena Gomez, who's probably not the best actor
I've ever seen, she's fantastic. She's really really good at it. She
just fit it off works. So we're starting a third season tonight, Tim,
So I'm pretty excited about it. I have to give it a spy.
It's very very good. All right, enough nonsense, Tim, Let's
move to your starting pitching. I know we've talked about a lot about starting
pitching already, but let's again hear your view in terms of how you're addressing
starting pitching last year. And I thought your first sentence or second sentence was,
hey, we lost seven out of the top twenty, which is pretty
remarkable. And that's a fact. I mean, that's not opinion, that's
a fact. And I'm just curious does one change their drafting view? Do
you keep it the same? What are you doing? Well? I think
along with the real game, our game has to you know, it has
to change right along with it. And you know, if you look back
over the past three years, we've seen a host of starting pitchers going in
the first two three rounds. Well, it's it's not warranting. I don't
think this year, I think we have to back off a little bit.
You know, three top ten starting pitchers along with seven or so from the
top twenty. Hey, you can't take all of that out of the game
and play the same game. You know, the elite level at starting pitching
is definitely thinner this year than it has been in a couple of years.
The middle tier is full of opportunities, but a lot of question marks in
there. The young guys are starting to step it up. For me,
I want to get I want to get Nace. Okay, I want to
get a top ten fifteen starter and from there I will Bob and we pick
and choose as I go through, trying to maximize my situation as I go
through the draft. I think it's very important, you know, if you
decide you want to go a little bit later on starting pictures. I think
one thing that's incredibly important is you find yourself somewhere a two hundred strikeout pitcher.
Okay, at some point in time, you've got to have some strikeouts,
and going a little bit late could put yourself. You could end up
putting yourself in a pretty good pole. So my thoughts are, I want
I want an ace, and then I will just carefully go through and hopefully
have three three starters after round ten and probably six after say round seventeen or
so. So may I push may I push back? Sure, let's and
I'm not sure I agree with what I'm gonna say, but I'm just gonna
spit out some facts. I'm looking at your rankings from last year. Sandy
Alcantara was your first guy off the board. He didn't have very good season.
It was it was, it was just okay, and then he got
hurt. Show you, Tony, Let's skip him. Garrett Cole money third
guy off the board. Corporn Burns very very good, Aaron Nola good,
not great. He was your your fifth guy. Uh, Dylan Cee is
not good at all. Seane McClanahan got got hurt. Uh did even pitch.
I can't remember, Gay it was, it was, it was a
lost season. Number eight was Alec Manoa. Look not a horrible ranking.
I mean you had him, he was at eighth. The NFC had him
at twenty four, so you're a little high on him. Justin Verlander was
next. He missed a good chunk of the season. Hue your Arias,
given all of his struggles and where he is today, was actually okay.
Jacob de Gram missed a lot out of the season. Number twelve Spinster Strider
was great. Max Scherzer next, miss a ton of the season. Shane
Bieber okay, missed a lot of time. Carlos were down. Number fifteen
horror. Yeah, so I mean so injuries again, so well yeah,
but I mean so you're so part of it is Hey, you're saying,
Wilson, go get go, go get a starting pitching pitcher early. Well,
which one do you get? Well? I mean it's like it's easier
this year because so many of them are pitching, right, I mean,
you love George Kirby. I love George Kirby, but there's a chance he's
gonna get hurt. Yeah, there's a chance every starting pitcher on this list
is going to get hurt, So why not take a positional bat who have
a less chance of getting hurt? And why don't I Why don't I go
to number sixteen attack take Max Free? Why don't I go to number twenty
and take Aaron Nola? Why don't I go to you know, you know
what? Why don't I pick in? And again I'm just pushing on you.
I'm not even sure I agree with what I'm saying, So why not
push on that those number two guys that you can get a little bit later?
And because I because if I spend so much in early in my draft
for a guy, that's a chance he's going to get hurt. If the
guy that I get with my fifth round pick gets hurt, at least it's
a fifth round pick as opposed to my first round pick. Yeah, I
don't have any problems when you start looking a little further down the list at
you know, Max, Max Free okay or Aaron Nola okay, because again
you're looking at high STRIKEO pictures. Where I would have problems is once you
get through the one hundred and eighty two hundred STRIKEO pictures, then you start
looking at trying to make up your ground. Where do you make up the
ground in strikeos? I you know, if there are a Dylan, Yeah,
Dylan Dylan sees is an option. I agree. Uh, food going
down further down the list, maybe justin Justin Verlander, Joe Muskrove's a guy.
It's a got a lot of strikeouts as well. I mean, there's
he's going pretty I mean he's you rank him thirty two. It's hard to
say where he's going in the NFBC because closers are included there. But that's
another guy that again I can get him, uh you know, seventh,
eighth round. And I feel a lot better about it. I feel better
with the risk of I'm just wanting to sad Joe Musgrove and Max Freed,
Joe Musgrove, Tarik Scooble, Chris Bassett. He picked your you know,
in that picking in that level, just like I'm not going to mess with
the guys at the top anymore because we got burned last year. Yeah,
we got burned last year. Next year at this time we could have fifteen
pitchers in the first two rounds, three rounds. Well yeah, yeah.
It's a very very volatile position, which is why when you start looking at
the top ten, will say, Okay, they're all going in the first
three rounds, as they rightfully should, but I don't. I'm not going
to come out of the first five rounds. Maximum I will come out of
the of the first five rounds will be two starting pitchers, and one of
them will be in the fifth round. So yeah, no, Hey,
if you want to, you want to back off a little bit on the
pitching, yeah, I don't have any problems with that, but just be
very cognizant that there's a big drop off in the strikeout potential once you get
out of the top twenty or so starting pitchers. Then it gets a little
bit tougher. And you don't want to put yourself in a situation where you've
got a team of one hundred and fifty hundred and sixty strikeout type guys and
you end up finishing with three four points in the category. That's what I
would be concerned. I think I agree with you, think you had a
lot of but I mean Hunter Green is on the doorstep of breaking out.
That's a big strikeout guy. Grayson Rodriguez doorstep of breaking out. Gavin Williams,
same thing. So there's some of those. I mean, I know,
you can't build a starting rotation of all of these young kids that could
break out because there's equal chance that they fail. But it also seems like,
gosh, you want one or two of those guys. Yeah. Yeah,
when you take a look at the top thirty forty this year, yeah,
you know you're seeing names in there like George Kirby, Yeah, I'm
a mortal Muri, Perez Tanner, Biby, Justin Steele, Jesus Lozardo,
who's still fairly young. We're starting to see. And again, part of
it is because of the injury situation, and part of it is because there's
some good young pitchers in the game. And I think I think the game
the game is changing very very quickly in that we're seeing pictures up at a
younger age. They're enjoying success. And I'm not afraid to invest in ten
or Byby or Bobby Miller, you know. And again, yeah, there's
risk. We don't have a five year resume in front of us, but
we've seen the skills. I think you either believe in the skills or you
don't, right, And I think we're gonna see more and more young pitchers
emerging into that top top thirty BACHA one this year. Yeah, the way
I've been playing starting pitching. I mean I could be wrong, you know,
but I thought about this. Look, I'd love to have Garrett Cale
if we dropped to the middle of the second round, take them every time.
But I'm just I'm scared in the first round. I just and Spencer
Stryder, same kind of thing. I wouldn't mind having George Kirby Zach Wheeler
if I can get them third ish round. All of a sudden, that
becomes very interesting. Like in a Donasty league startup. I'm in the middle
of the third round and Corbyn Burns is there. I almost peed my pants.
I mean I was so excited. I mean I got Corbyn Burns in
the third round, like hello. I would do that in a heartbeat in
a in a redraft league as well. So, I mean there's always value
there. It's just boy, you know, you got a choice between Gunner
Henderson or Garrett Cole, or you got Aaron Judge and Garrett Cole play.
It's so hard to pull the trigger on Garrett Cole. Yeah, no,
it's I get it. I really do. The only thing I can say
when you get into the elite level of starting pitchers is there is a margin
of comfort and safety in knowing that you're you're looking at players that do have
a good industry. Again, how much do you want to that's because of
that? Like I said, I'm looking at I'm looking at probably most d
doctors are possibly another bad and looking at a round six seven for the starters,
becausere's a lot of starters in there. I like, yeah, I'll
take Justin Justin, Justin Steele in around seven or eight. Kyle Bradish and
Zach Ethlyn's not getting nearly the level of respect that I think he should.
Yeah, there's what Yeah, except he does play for Tampa now, right,
So that means he's going to get hurt. Well, yes, but
hopefully he gets two years in before before that happens. I'm actually somewhat serious
about that. I mean, should we await Tampa bay Ray's pictures until they
can prove they can keep him healthy? I think you can't. It's bad
there, Tim, I mean every one of them has gotten hurt. Well,
just because Springs or Smunson, McLanahan and who else Tyler got hurt.
Yeah, Baz Yeah, every picture that the that's gone through that Tampa Bay
rotation the last couple of years has got had Tommy John surgery. To me,
at some point there needs to be an investigation what the heck is going
on there? Yeah, I I don't have I don't have any answers either.
That's just yeah. Yeah, I've holding my hands up in the air.
It's shrug my shoulders and yeah, I mean it's it could be just
bad luck. I mean, I mean, I guess, but man,
it's like if I'm sitting at the table and all of a sudden, there's
Zach Efflin and I got a choice when Zach Eflin and Aaron Nola. I'm
going Aaron Nola just because he plays in a different organization. I mean,
maybe that's nuts, but that's the way I'm thinking. Yeah, and just
cause for that thing, Yeah, there really is. Yeah, Timmy,
let's take a break it back and start breaking these guys down one by one.
You're the music. Did you hear that he has nothing? That's weird?
How you were able to hear that? That's that's really Yeah. The
intro came through loud and clear as a bell, but that commercial break didn't
hear a thing until you came back a thing that's really strange. I don't
know, Tom, everything's recording, everything looks good. So because we're not
redoing this too much, too much gold in there, too much sh maybe
it's a Q tube issue and I could resolve here and there that is talking
about tm I to me, that is definitely am I give you a rim
shop. But ohough it is a late rim shot. Okay, let's do
your top five great pictures here. Garrickle one, Spencer Strider to Kevin Goussman
three, Corbyn Burns four, and George Kirby five. In the NFBC,
they are going Spencer Strider one, Garrett Cole two, and it looks like
Corbyn Burns three, Zach Wheeler and then Kevin Gosman. So you got Kevin
Goson up a little bit. Yeah, I got Kirby up a little bit
too. I've guys, I think when you start looking at any of the
starting pitchers after Cole and Stryder, they're all in basically the same spot,
give or take. You know, Gossman's at thirty, Burns is at twenty
six, Kirby's at forty one. They're in the same proximity. If you
told me that you prefer Pablo Lopez over over Gosman, Gosman or Burns or
yeah, I'm not gonna argue they're they're all they're all in the same neighborhood.
Pablo Lopez is one of my targets. I will say that just because
tenth guy off the board. If I won an eighth I can pay a
third round pick for him. I like that. So yeah. And George
Kirby in the third round. Absolutely, he has been creeping up though,
so he was. He was later and it was the guy that I was
also targeting, and all of a sudden he got really expensive. And now
I'm again a little bit not as intrigued there. Yeah, But Zach Gallon
and Luis because they're they're all in the same or they're all in the same
neck of the woods, pick your poison and go with them. They're you
know, they're all top first three round picks. Uh. If I took
Spencer Strider in front of Garrett Cole, would that upset you? No,
not one bit. I just think until something happens to not cool off his
perch. I don't think Strider has done enough what was his eerie last year,
three eighty or something, wasn't it, I don't I don't recall.
Yeah it was. It was mid threes. Anyways, And yeah, Garrett
Cole he is he does nothing but produce outstanding ratios year after year after year.
He's not I don't think he's he's old. Uh. Five of the
past six season. The only season he hasn't struck out two hundreds I think
in the past six was the shortened season. Yeah, I just think I
agree. Yeah, it's it's tough not to to feel comfort. I think
that was the word that you said earlier. When you go with Garrett Cole,
and that's that's why you get them. Well, yeah, the there's
a history there, a very very strong history. And uh, you know
what I said in my I said in my my narrative. Yes, Strider
could be the best starter in the game someday, just not two day.
All I know is his uh, his baseball Slavan page is as a thing.
Oh yeah, yeah, and you know what if you took Streider first,
No, I don't have any problems with that. Yeah, Strider's e
er A last year was three eighty six, is expect was three h nine
though, so it looks like he got a little unlucky. But uh yeah,
it's uh, you know, they're both great, they're both great pictures
ahead of the class to Yeah. Yeah, his slider's really taking a big
step up. That slider's getting fifty five percent with Reid, who that's reach.
Yeah, let me get back over to the spreadsheet. Yeah, gals,
I mean I'm poking to trying to find stuff to talk about with these
five and they're just all really good. Yeah. You know, you could
look at Kirby and you could say, well, I'm being overly bold moved,
but he didn't walk anybody. The strikeout rates were up in the second
half. He's young. He throws a knuckleball once a year. You know,
it's there's old. What is there to really dislike other than the fact
that he doesn't have a long resume? Okay, what's how can you how
can you not like George Kirby? Yeah, he is a good picture.
He's going as the ninth guy off the board in the NF you see,
and it's running that up is obviously show you toddy, so you have to
take one out. So that's at least eight, So you you like him
better than Zach, Zach Wheeler, Zach Galen, Lewis Castile is going in
front of those guys. So yeah, I mean it's it's a pretty bold
move putting George Kirby up there, now that I think about it, Well,
yeah, how many watchs did hello last year? It was yeah,
exactly, and I I think George Kirby and Tanner Biby are going to be
fighting over Cy Young Awards for the next five years. Wow. Well,
when we get down to Biby, it becomes rather celt explanatory, doesn't it.
All I know is George Kirby won me a stake elect last year,
so let's help forever. He'll forever be one of my favorite pitchers of all
time. So that's That's not like we traded for him at the end of
the year in DL five. So yeah, yeah, I don't mind paying
up on that stage. Yeah, he doesn't walk anybody. It's it's absolutely
ridiculous. So, I mean, the floor is immediately very high. He
didn't have an expected era of three to ninety in irregular era of three thirty
five. Let's take a look at what's going on. Uh, gets a
lot of strikeouts with his fastball, which isn't typical slider's just okay with a
twenty two percent whiff rate, curveball sixteen percent wft rate split finger. Interesting,
he's only throwing at six percent of the time. He threw a er
point four percent of the time in twenty twenty two. That looks like a
vicious ball, tim, So I'm expecting to see the percentages change on that.
Yeah, I mean that that happens a lot. That happens a lot,
you know where I mean, you don't usually go from zero to thrown
at thirty percent of the time. So if he started to throw that fifteen
percent of the time next year, and all of a sudden he starts to
have a lot of success against left handed pitchers, which where he's a throw
it for it. Yeah, yeah, that's gonna help like it. Yeah,
in dynasty leagues, you gotta be all over a pit Choy Kirby.
Yeah, you simply have to be. I if I was looking at in
a dynasty format, I would probably have him ranked two three. I got
him as my h I got him in a couple of leagues. I know,
I picked him in the third round. I believe he's probably it's not
the top five type six guy off the board. So yeah, yeah,
I will be able to break all that stuff down for you one day,
Timmy, because I can download all the data, as you know. At
number six is Pablo Lopez, followed by Zach Wheeler, Zach Galien, Luis
Castillo, Framber of Valdez. I love myself some Pablo Lopez. I think
he is way underrated. I love what you did did here and pushed him
up a little bit. Well again, he tied for third and all of
baseball with two and thirty four strikeos. Just a great year. Yeah,
kept the ball park, didn't didn't didn't walk a slip. He's a good
picture, a really good picture. It took a huge step up in Minnesota
last year, big time. He's able to it was able to stay healthy
as well. And uh yeah, it's a good trade by the Twins they
needed that, and a great trade by the Marlins they needed Lewis Orry so
and it worked out for both teams. Win win. Zach Wheeler, it's
tough to say. I mean he dropped him a little bit though, Yeah,
just a little He's he's you know, he's the other side of it.
Just came down to I like Lopez a bit better, but the Wheeler
is a fine pitcher. And as I said, my nor I am.
You know after at one point in time we were looking at Zach Wheeler wondering
if he was going to have a career. I remember discussing it on the
podcast. You know, he basically missed three seasons while in New York and
and he went through a really, really tough time. So I'll always I'll
always smile when I think about Zach Wheeler and every everything he had to go
through to get to where he was, And I think everybody in our community
you should smile. It's a great story. George Kirby Tim had him ranked
thirty last season, Pablo Lopez fifty one. So those are two guys that
if you would have drafted both of those guys, Timmy, you would have
basically had to number one starters. That's how they performed last year. Well.
Yeah, and when you add in pictures like ten Or Baby and Trek
Scooper and Bobby Miller and Kyle Bradish Winter Winter Yep, Zach Gallen, Tim,
it's hard to criticize anything he's done. It's been great. He's done
it in Arizona. I don't think people quite appreciate that enough. That's a
tough place to pitch in. Well, yeah, and he's a horse one
hundred and eighty four innings and twenty two two hundred and ten innings last year.
That's that's nice to have in round three, isn't it? What's I
think fascinating? You got Zach Galen at eight and you got Pabolo Lopez at
six. Both of them were with the Marlins, and Marlin's trade of both
of those guys away. Yeah, for jazz, jazz chisholm if I'm not
mistake jazz chism for Zach Gillen straight up, and Lewis the rise for pabol
I mean, so one is it shows you how much they're developing pictures in
Miami. Right part of it you'd have to say believe they probably wish they
had both those guys back. I mean, particularly what would they're off would
offense. It's it's not great now. Yeah, Any concerns about Faner Valdez,
No, not really, Okay, Yeah, the past two years he's
put in almost four hundred innings. He just when when I looked at Valdez
and I looked at all of the pictures immediately sort of below him, you
know, Cody saying that we've seen one year. Yeah, I'm a older
we haven't seen any years. Yuri Pez is young, is he gonna is
a workload? Going to be their tanner biby? Another young picture, framber
Velde is just feels very comfortable and safe to me, which is why I
moved him up into the tent spot because I'm perfectly happy with a guy who's
gonna get, you know, throw the ball two hundred innings a year with
very solid results. So it's sort of a safe floor type pic. Yep,
right, yep, good love. And through fifteen, Tim's got code
I singa u Yamamoto's next Yuri Perez logan Web tanner biby, And that's eleven
through fifteen. You got singa in front of Yamamoto. Explain yourself, McLeod.
It's very simple. We've seen a year of Senga. I think Yamamoto
is a better picture, but Senga at least has a history, and it's
a very very good history. So hey, I'm anticipating Yamamoto being a better
pitcher. But right now, how do you argue with what Senga did last
year, especially in the second half. Those are impressive numbers, Tim,
looking at the two of them. Can you repeat that? Yeah, you
cut out just what we were saying, saying something brilliant. Hold on,
I've lost, mister McLeod. Let me take a quick break and come back
and see if I can find Tim earth to Tim here, I'm here,
there you go. Hold on, So we were comparing Singa to yama Moto.
You want to repeat what you said? You said that Yama mode is
definitely the better picture, but we've seen Singa and then you kind of cut
out. Yeah, I know, after what Singa did in the second half
last year, there's a bit of a history sitting there, and again I
feel the Yama Moto. You know, hey, I can only handle so
many zero points zeros. Now, if I were to rank Yamma Moto in
the top five, you know, hey, he could finish up. That's
just a where he where he finishes up. I believe he's got the potential
to be a top five pitcher. Am I going to draft him as the
top five picture? No? Okay, I'm saying it's got history and he's
got a little bit on his resume right now, so I ranked him one
slot higher. All I know is the flora is there. The zero point
zero is at the trigger, Timmy, because if Yama Motor gets off to
a tough start, it's going to be twenty minutes every podcast talking about Yamamoto.
It's gonna be great. Well, yeah, I'm gonna go to bed
counting zero point zeros instead of sheep. Yeah. Oh, Timmy, I
am, I am, I am on the clock. You're on the clock.
Yeah, Tanner Biby just got taken it and my cueue is empty.
Oh see this is what Yeah, this is what sucks. You know.
It's uh round you in uh, this is in round nine. My team
is uh I've got I got threes, I got two starters and a closer.
This is a team. I got Dela Cruz, followed up by Bryce
Harper, I got Walker, Jordan Walker, say yes, Suzuki, Glaber,
Torres, and then Corbyn Burns, Max Free, David Bedder. So
that's a good start. So uh U use the clock and take a look.
Yeah, I'm gonna have to use the clock and take a look.
To me, I just I just I just don't have time to think about
this unfortunately. So uh yeah, that's why that's why we have that's why
we have the clock and slow drafts. Right when you when you get stuck
like this, and that's the one where you got I've got the list going.
I got to look at the list to see who's going. Okay,
So we just got back from commercial break because we lost him for a bit.
So let me get back over to the spreadsheet. Let me get back
over there. What else can I Euri Perez? I mentioned he could be
a top five pitcher on the end of this year. Yes, I love
eury Perez. I have n't had a number of Dynasty League teams. I'm
scared to death of eury Perez this year. Well, how many innings is
he gonna throw? That's that's a big that's that's a that's a magical question.
If he gets one hundred and sixty and seventy innings in, he could
very easily bolt himself into the top ten, top five, couldn't he.
I'm scared to death of my I I worry about injuries. I just do.
And he's had some, right tim. So that's he's a he's a
big kid. He's young, tall and skinny. So it's just like we'll
see the profile of guys who throw that hard with the stuff that he has,
quite frankly, is a recipe for elbow entries and that's that's what worries
me about Uri Perez. So Yeah, and then at fourteen or after you
got Logan Webb Booz, I think a very safe pick. I think it's
a safe pick too. I totally agree with you. And next Tanner Biby,
I totally agree with you there. I think this is a guy that
is on the rise. Very bold pick he was. He's going much later
in the NFBC because his ADP is one fifteen and you got him wedged into
an eight two ADPs of sixty five. Yeah. I like Tanner Biby a
lot, and I think if you want Tanner Biby, especially in a Dynasty
league, you best tart to get him now. Okay, make a move
before the season starts, because I really think over the next five years it's
Tanner Biby and George Kirby are going to be They're going to be dueling over
that al Cy Young Award. That's how bullish I am on time Tanner Biby.
Wow, that is impressive to me. That is really impressive. I
am going to do a little spreadsheet work here and I think I can get
the NFBC rankings here where they're going, because if I sort the eightyps,
that should tell me what number they're going. Correct. Yeah, pretty much,
shah. So I just did that. Let me and let me do
this there, don't you know? But it so you know what I mean.
So all the relief pictures are out and if I sort them by ADP
and put a number next to them, then it'll tell me they should kind
of match up to what yours is, right, Yeah, very logical.
Yeah, how about that? Now, that's that's why you're in charge of
everything technical and I'm not. Yeah, so unfortunately I can't. I'd have
to hang up on you to be able to complete the task, but I
will. I will just do a little bit of typing. In fact,
let me let me put Paul's a podcast real quick, tim Okay, Tim,
we got we got new numbers now, so I'll be able to so
code. I Singa is going as the the twentieth pitcher off the board,
and you have him ranked eleven. So that's all we'll be able to do.
That soon. Uri Perez is according to NBC, is going as a
twenty second pitcher. You've actually pushed him up to thirteen. Well, I
think the talent's there. The only question is the workload. And I'm betting
on one hundred and sixty innings this year. The only time will tell if
he gets to that, if he gets to that level. But if he
does, I think I might even have him low. Yeah, And Tim
is really bullish on tanner By because he's gone us a thirty third pitcher off
the board. Tim's got at fifteen and I totally supportive of you. I
love the aggressiveness of that. Well, I think there's there's a time,
there's a time to be investing, and it's now. And I'm I don't
have any problems in a red draft league with moving tanner By v up that
high, none whatsoever. Who's he pitched for? Again, Tim? Which
team does he pitch for? And Guardians I believe aren't don't they have a
history of developing pretty good pictures. They're pretty they're pretty good at it.
I think they're pretty good at it. Number sixteen is Max free trek Skuble
seventeen, Zach Eflin Bobby Miller at number nineteen and Aaron Nola at twenty.
Let's go down to Aaron Nola. He's going as the eleventh picture off the
board. You have him at twenty. Well, all, yeah, all
you have to do is look at the look at the production. And the
one thing that I think that's very interesting with with Aaron Nola is and I
when I did my narrative, I mentioned it is that if you if you're
into the odd even thing, he's got a really solid history of pitching great
every second year. Okay, And if all of that holds true, I'm
low on Aaron Nola. But last year is zer A was what for something
for? It was up there. I think with Aaron Nola, what you're
guaranteed is you're guaranteed two hundred strike oats. You're and you know, one
hundred and eighty hundred ninety eighties. Okay. I As far as the aarra,
it has been absolutely all over the place, and I've backed him off
for that reason. Okay, So I I don't believe in the odd even
theory because I don't. I've never heard anybody giving an explanation as to why
that is. Yeah, I've I've gotten. I've got no reason for it.
Okay, if you can give me a reason, I will buy it.
But that is just like here's here's the reason I'll give you. Last
year he had a four to forty six arra okay u. Twenty twenty two
he had a three twenty five arra okay. Twenty twenty one he had four
sixty three three twenty eight, three eighty seven, so thirty seven, three
point fifty four. Every other year there's been no consider see in the year
A numbers none going back. So your homework is to try to figure out
why that is. So in twenty twenty two they made it all the way
to the World Series. Was he tired? That could explain twenty twenty three.
This time they didn't go as t Maybe he'll have a better season because
he didn't work as many innings. Maybe there's something along that line. But
your job now is to go homework, So figure that out. To him,
it's a mystery. He just sucks every other year. Okay, let's
go with that. But at the same point in time, five of the
sixty five of the last five full seasons, okay, he's gone her two
hundred strikeouts every year it's cr rai'smen up and down all over the place.
So I adjusted no, all the downwards a little bit. And hey,
if the trend continues this year, he should pitch a boat. I'll say
about a three thirty three thirty five era. If that trend continues, Does
Tarik scooble injury concerns last year give you paus to take him this early?
Ah, he won't be, for say, a target of mine, because
we're paying for what he did in the second half. You're paying dearly,
Timmy. He's going as a twelfth starter off the board according to my little
new calculation, and he through eighty innings last year. Hey, what we
saw in the second half was amazing. He was arguably the best picture in
baseball in the second half. But again, it's still only eighty innings.
I am definitely lower on Schooble for that reason. You know. It's Hey,
yeah, we will discuss Tyler Glastowe in a bit, but it's the
same sort of same sort of situation. How do you bet on something we
haven't seen to date out of Terrek's Schoobel. I can't make that bet.
I love the logic there Timmy, I will tell you. And looking at
his data, very few pictures have his stuff. It's pretty much off the
chart. So if he can replicate what he did in the second half,
he could be a top five guy. Yeah. No, the stuff is
off the charts good, it really is. But do you you know,
do you look at him over a logan web, It's it's a classic floor
versus ceiling, isn't it. Yeah? It is? And I don't know.
I have to like. I love Terrek Schooble I. I've owned him
in multiple, multiple leagues in the past, and it's he just hasn't been
able to consistently get in the workload. And until he does, I can't.
I can't go that high on him. I just can't. Yeah,
And all of the existing Dynasty leagues I play in, Timmy, I have
him in every league. In the new ones, I don't have him in
any And it's not like I didn't want to, but he was going as
a top sometimes a top three or four pick as a picture and it was
I mean, I just was too expensive. I want to give me.
I just it's the same logic. I wanted a positional guy. I just
wasn't. I wasn't comfortable taking him a picture that high unless it was uh,
you know, au Pablo Lopez or a Corbin Burns, somebody had a
little bit more, a little bit more little history there. So yeah,
the resume is fairly blank when it comes to workload from Schooble, and that's
just the way it's been thus far. Does that mean it has to stay
that way. No, But it's all about how much risk you want to
take. And there's a bit too much based on his current drafts Now,
hey you give me Tarry schoobl in the fourth round. Yeah, okay,
now, now we're starting to generate some interest, but not in the second
round. He kept going higher and higher and hire he was one of my
targets when I did my my did my target list. This was back in
like December, and he was going as in the fourth round, like hey,
money, money, I'll take that, and he just kept going up
and up and up, probably because everybody's listening to the podcast, I guess,
so you're welcomed, Terrek Scooble. Yeah. Well, and it's the
same as Yamamoto. You could have got Yama Moto in a draft in November
December, probably in the tenth round. Okay, yeah, try that now
it doesn't work right, Yeah, left handed pitcher with his fastball velocity.
Oh I'm sorry, I'm looking at Bobby Miller. So let's move to Bobby
Miller. If you look at Baseball Savant and you look the sheeps of his
pitches, a few guys have his stuff. Tim. He throws a four
seam er, a sinker, a curveball, a slider, a change up,
and actually even a sweeper. He's throwing at everything in the kitchen sink,
at people, and it's a lot of it's nasty, nasty stuff.
Yeah. You know what really surprised me is he didn't get a single vote
in the NL Rookie of the Year Awards. Not a vote. I know,
it was a good class and yeah, there were a lot of very
very good names, and he certainly wasn't in contention to win with Gorbyn Carroll
and saying yeah, ye had it, but not nary a vote. And
I found that sort of surprising. Bobby Miller three seventy six a year,
Ray, that's pretty good for a Yeah, look at the whip the strikeo
rates. Yeah, yeah, he doesn't walk many. It's a he's a
really good picture. He doesn't strike out as many guys as you think,
but looking at his overall stuff, and I think the Dodgers will start to
maybe that sweeper eventually replaces that slider if it gets if it gets good,
and you know, they'll probably start to drop some of these other pitches and
he could be really really good. Yeah, I I've I've got him ranked
as a top twenty pitcher. I think I think you'll learn that this year.
Tim's got a little bit higher than the nfbc's nineteen. He's going in
the NFC. He's going us a twenty third pitcher off the board. Let's
do twenty one through twenty five, and then we might take a break and
cut this podcast. Go down to thirty. That's that's wor'll cut it.
Twenty one is Kyle Bradish, Justin Steele, Next, Blake Snell, the
Homeless Blake Snell, Freddie Peralta, Jose Lozardo, your buddy, and my
buddy Tyler. It's actually my buddy Tyler glassa Tim hates Tyler Glassnow Logan Logan,
Logan, Gilbert. I just want everybody to know George Kirby is at
least twenty slots ahead of Logan Gilbert, thank you very much, at least
twenty and comes a good pitcher. He's a good pitcher, Justin Verlander at
twenty eight. Dylan sees at twenty nine Jordan Montgomery. Oh, so much
to talk about here. I don't eve know where to start. Kyle Bradish,
Tim it was a guy that I was really high on coming through the
minor leagues. I actually had him on just about every Dynasty league. I
think I only have him on one or two now. I never expected what
he did. I thought he would be good, a lot better. I
thought it'd be like like a guy that nobody was talking. I thought he'd
be a number four starter. He was much better than that. Last season.
How did that happen? Well, he only allowed two point eight three
r Well, you know, he pitched one hundred and seventy innings. That's
a that's a big step up from his rookie campaign where he threw one hundred
and seventeen. But again he only walked forty four. Yeah, Okay,
you look at the hit rates. Okay, one hundred and thirty two hits
over one hundred and sixty eight and two. There's people were missing strikeout per
inning. He kept the ball in the park. He only allowed fourteen home
runs last years. Like he was a round ball pitcher, right, because
he's I think he's a sinker now it's a sinker slider guy. Right,
But again, you look at all the numbers and it's easy to see how
he could produce a quality e area and we'pt doing what he did last year
and he did last year, right, well, why can't he do it
again this year? Really really good slider, really really good slider. So
he started deemphasizing his sinker from twenty two. So sinker went down from his
primary pitch in twenty twenty two. Is it might look you know, his
for seamer. He started deemphasizing his four seamer and started throwing more of his
sinker. Yeah, so he started becoming more of a groundball guy. He's
threw his fastball in twenty twenty two at forty five percent of the time.
Last year he threw it at thirty twenty two percent of the time, and
the sinker was exactly the opposite. So he's becoming a sinker slider guy,
to which means his streacout r might go down a smidge, but I mean
it might work with really good era. So well you start looking too.
And he came into their system in twenty nineteen. He's he's another one of
these pitchers you know that I think is developing a bit later because of the
COVID situation. Yeah, it's a good point too. Yeah again, you
know, hey, miss twenty twenty. You know, there's there's some serious
development time that he missed, you know, coming into baseball. When he
came into baseball, and maybe like some of the other players we've discussed recently,
that had a bearing on those initial years and it's now being resolved and
he's moving forward, you know, a little bit later than expected. Those
old cartoons, Timmy, the zero was on the left side. He got
the big gauge of the zero on the left side all the way on the
right side. One hundred and eighty degrees beyond is one hundred and that's the
like maybe it's a thermometer that says how word you are about stuff? From
zero? Absolutely no know where you're going to get a job. I'm not
going to start the season on Blake Snow totally confident he's going to get a
job versus one hundred. I'm scared of death that he's going to start the
season one time, be ready to go. Which again, pictures and catchers
report Timmy in ten days. How worried are you? Zero to one hundred,
twenty? Okay, and what were you two weeks ago? I'm not
concerned at all. So the concern is week two, two week, two
weeks from now, it'll be thirty to forty okay. You know, hey,
and once you get into the second third week, if he have spring
drink, if he doesn't have a job by then, then you start downshifting
a little bit because he won't be ready. Yeah, you know, I
think eventually he's going to get a job. But again, with each and
every passing day, I think you have to live a little bit more concerned.
And then, like I said, especially as you get into spring training,
he could miss time in April if he signs real late. This is
my concern. Let's put let's again. I've been watching this only murders in
the buildings, so I'm starting to think like a sleuth. Now. So
everybody needs pitching. Absolutely, everybody needs pitching. Scott Bars knows this above
everybody else. Guys are gonna get hurt in spring training. Guys on the
Yankees, on the you know Red Sox of Dodgers. I mean, you
name some prominent team that has a chance, you know, with playoff aspirations.
If he can't get the deal he's looking for, would it totally surprise
you if he just says, I'm just gonna wait until you get to a
crisis situation and I'll be here. Yeah, and you'll take a one year,
twenty five thirty million dollar contract and where you go, and then you'll
go through the same process next offseason. Now, be surprised to see that
now, or he could have signed he could signed a long term deal just
because that's what he wants. But he could Tim miss part of April and
get rushed through spring training. We see it all the time. Well yeah,
and that that's not good. Yep. So my my meter is a
little I'm not drafting Blake Snell at all. I will if he goes,
if he drops, but I'm not drafting up. He's going in in FBC
as the sixteenth, the sixteenth start off the board. Tim's got him at
twenty three. Well done there, But it's I think if we did this
list two weeks two weeks later, Timmy, at the start of spring training.
He's not signed. It's he's dropping like a He's dropping like a lead
balloon for me. Yeah. Well, and I think when you start looking
at Jordan Montgomery, I think the same applies. He's still looking for work.
Yeah, yeah, I agree that. Yeah, It's like I said,
I am marginal concern right now, but that because concern is gonna escalate
as we move forward. Yeah, that's do I think Tyler Glass anything else
to say there, Timmy? I mean, obviously you're he's gone as a
tenth starter off the board. You got him at twenty six, and I'm
right there with you. Well, again, we're looking at as a starter.
The stuff's filthy. We've mentioned in numerous times. I but when your
high Warner marks one hundred and twenty innings, you're hey, I wish everybody
who I hope Tyler glasnow throws one hundred and ninety innings this year, I
really do. Can I bet on that? Not a chance? I agree,
totally agree, that's hard to do that. Justin Verlander, tim he
is not getting the love that he has in the past. He's going as
the thirty fourth starter off the board. You've got him a little higher at
twenty eight, which I applaud because it is Justin Frickin Verlander until he starts
pitching poorly, Like, isn't it Nelson Cruz all over again? Well,
he keeps, as I said, he keeps continuing to five other time.
Yeah, I think the one thing with Verlander is set your parameters. Know
your parameters, and set them reasonably. Reasonably Okay, I think one hundred
and fifty one hundred and sixty innings is a is a fine ceiling to be
working with. Don't anticipate one hundred and eighty hundred and ninety. Cut that
back a little bit, and I think Justin Berlinder can still toss up a
load of mid three er, making him a fine value. I think is
a top thirty pitcher. Dylan Cees, you have him at twenty nine.
The NFC's got him at twenty nine, So you're dead nuts on Tim,
and you right, And I will read Tim's writing here. A bounce back
campaign could very well be in order. Just don't pay for it. Yeah,
I had him as the number six starter off the board last year.
Yeah, No, he's not. He's not a top ten picture until he
can throw more strikes. Yeah, it's a problem. Yep. I don't
know what else to say, Tommy. I mean, it's he's going to
be alluring for somebody, because again, I've done drafts as you've done draft
and you see Dylan Cees down there going in the uh round eighth round and
it's pretty you know, you get excited in the sixth or seventh round?
Should I jump early on the minutes because it is Dylan Ceas right, So
it's like, but you're you're guarding, You're warning people be careful. Well,
the thing is, I think you're looking at two hundred strike codes,
but you're also looking at a any array of maybe four and a half in
a whip of one forty. You know, Dylan ces would be the perfect
pairing if you drafted Cole or Strider. Interesting early, Yeah, I think
I love that. Actually, I agree that makes that makes total sense because
you're going to get the strike oats a little bit later and you can build
your offense in between. Right, But if you're going with a round five,
round six types, okay, uh, that changes an area of a
little bit, at least it does for me. Then all of a sudden
you're looking for. Yeah, you're looking at a three fifty three sixty potentially
era and a one fifteen one twenty throw the one forty. You get yourself
up, You've dug yourself a hole, right yep. To mean, let's
take our final break it back and try to wrap this first segment up a
little bit. Okay, So I don't know about you. I loved our
discussion. Yeah, as did I. It's it's always it's always fun tossing
ideas back and forth and the what ifs and maybes and everything else. And
there's a slew of them with pitching. They're just is in the top thirty.
Tell me your favorite picture that you want where you can get him.
Tanner Biby, Tanner Biby going as a thirty third pitcher off the board as
a number three starter. Tim wants them because he's got him at number fifteen.
Love it. Yeah, I think there's number two, but potentially even
Ace Upside or the Tanner Biby. Yeah, I'm all over Tanner Biby.
The other picture that I like a Lodgeho's not commanding a whole lot of respect.
Justin Steele in Chicago. Yeah, we didn't even talk about him.
Yeah, he's going as a twenty eighth guy off the board. You got
him, well, you got him as a twenty second he's going, so
you got him six lots higher. Yeah, I got him a little bit
higher. And you know, Zach Efflin another picture that I'm I'm fairly bullish
on. You look at what he produced. You know, you've, of
course, you got the Tampa Bay thing that you know, you got to
sleep with every night knowing that you know there is there is a history.
But Zach Eflin really pitched well last year. Yeah, he really did well.
You always had the stuff, Timmy. He was he was a data
darling. And then you know he goes to Tampa and they figure it out
and they must have made a deal with the devil. We're going to let
these these pictures pitch really well when they come to you, But they're gonna
pitch a very short period of time. Yes, I was gonna say the
Devil went down to Tampa Bay exactly, exactly. Good stuff, Timmy.
Let's let's take a break. First, all, what are we having for
dinner? Ah? Well, we're gonna take him. We're gonna we're gonna
make some some nachos. A layer of nachos, salsa, some hamburger,
some cheese, and then another repeat and then repeat until it's almost a foot
high, and then bake it in the oven a foot high. I think
that's that's pretty funny. So all right, so it looks it looks sort
of like around it looks like a big angel. Okay, so layers of
Now you're the chip guy, so what is the appropriate chip for nacha?
Bite size rounds? For me? Oh wow, very specific. It was
was dead serious man, round small rounds. That's very small. All right.
So you got cheddar cheese, I'm assuming or using pepper jack or anything
like that. Yeah, it's uh Colby, it's three cheese Blandus Okay,
yeah, cheddar Colby. And I can't remember what the other maybe salce on
it a sala salsa, so sauces intermixed with in it all. Yeah.
You have one layer of the of the of the tacos, and then you
put some salsa down. Because you put the salsa down next, so the
hamburger sticks into the salsa, and then the hamburger, and then the cheese,
and then another layer, repeating itself and bake it in the oven until
all the cheese melts and it's heaven. So I'm assuming you cook the hamburger
ahead of time though, Oh yeah, okay, so it's cooked hamburger that
you're throwing because people people believe it or not telling people are writing this stuff
down. They're gonna try. There will be there will be some of our
listeners that try this. So we're gonna make sure that we raw hamburger.
How do you eat it? Do you just literally with your fingers and just
pick out it all night? Uh? Basically I take a plate and then
just just kind of kind a wedge off it and slap it on my plate
and the way you go. But are you eating it? Are you eating
it with your hands? Or are you eating it with a fork? Uh?
It's finger food until you get down to the crumbson spoon out and I'm
licking the plate. It's that good. Okay, all right, that's good.
We're we're finishing up whatever in the refrigerator, tim because we're heading off
tomorrow morning about ten o'clock. So, so LORI made a chicken and farah,
which is kind of a grain with some sweet potatoes cut up sweet potatoes,
but it's kind of a salad. Put it on some greens. It's
very healthy. That's the only thing left in the refrigerator, so we'll finish
that up and that'll be that. Okay, No, it sounds good.
Hey, if that's the only thing left in your fridge, you're doing pretty
good. You don't want to know what's in mind when it gets closed to
be an empty ridge. No, definitely. All right, let's let's call
it a day and we'll record the second half here in a couple of minutes.
Everybody, be well, Be well,