I see, well at the impossible or whatever remains however improbable must be true.
And it is not a question of the little cultism. What a touch
of mysticism is to dead? It is vampires. There's a host of damned
souls and Hellipus thy Father's spirit to do for a certain term, to walk
the night here. The old gods are to dead, and what is the
true god? He's dead? Can't complain. People assume the time is a
strict progression of cause to effect that action. From a nonlinear, non subjective
viewpoint, it's more like a big ball of wibbly wobbly timey wimi stuff.
You're listening to Paranormal UK Radio. Hi, everybody, This is Irene Island
from the Paranormal UK Radio Show, the flagship show to the Paranormal UK Radio
Network. And I'm not going to forget his name, even though he thinks
I am Mark Johnson. Oh I'm very impressed. Oh yes, well you
always Three weeks Mark, three weeks, three weeks, three weeks from tomorrow,
I'll be getting on a plane and I'll be coming over to the British
Isles. Yeah, blend yeah, And three weeks one day from tomorrow I
will be dumping him in Bristol Channel. I'll irritate you enough by then.
All right, I'm pretty over here in the US. Will be going like
I wonder when Mark's coming back. Mark is not coming back. Yeah,
well not necessarily a bad thing, but I could handle staying over there for
a while. Well. No, I'm not talking like that. I'm not
saying I'll kidnap you or anything. No, no, you wouldn't do that.
These aisles are very very very spooky paranormal place to be and happened to
you. Mark. Well, you are taking me to some spooky paranormal places
to check out, so you know, well leave me there as long as
my I got battery power and some equipment. Listen, darling, as soon
as you walk into my house, you won't have any battery power. Oh
then I'll just have to use some of my other senses. Then, all
right, then find them. I'm gonna see that black shadow that's been lurking
about a bit. Yeah, i'd like you to see that. Yeah.
See how loud to scream? As long as there's no cats involved, No
cats in this house. Yeah, just just girtye the paranormal pup that's it.
And if anybody here should hear, didn't want to sound coming from behind
us, don't worry about it. Gertie is on the couch. She's an
English bulldog and she snorls and there's nothing I can do about it. If
I put her into another room final you know, yeah, I have to
have the parrot in here, and that'd be squawking. So the snoring is
a bit better than the squalking. Well, I finally get to meet Gie,
so well, hey, after twelve years, I finally get to meet
you too, So hey there's that. Yeah, well, show, let's
get on with the show. We're gonna have a good time anyway. Excited
to speak to tonight's guest. We're talking with Victoria now. Victoria has a
very interesting background. She is a filmmaker, so a writer, producer,
director, actor, and uh. She has a new movie coming out in
August called Air of the Witch, which has some semi auto biographical elements to
it. So Victoria, welcome to the program. Hi, thank you for
having me here. I'm really excited to speak with you both and to share
a little bit about the story and the movie era the which. Thank you
for having me well, thank you. We're always fascinated about witches, especially
you know her over there in the UK. You know, I'm no witch.
Now, I said, you're fascinated by it, but no, there's
a lot of in this country, goes back years. Yeah, yeah,
Victoria, it's on accent. Where were you born. I was born in
a Republic of Moldova. I lived there eighteen and then I moved to Romania.
I went there for college, and then I came to the United States
after I graduated college. And I've been living in the States for the last
eighteen years, so it's been my home. Now. Oh, I see,
Now you're quite happy there. You like to do not just States.
Yeah, I'd love to get the Moldova. Yes, it's neighboring to Ukraine.
It's this tiny little country there, that it's just tiny, and that
we have great wine and beautiful women. That's all I can remember from home.
Now, well, now i'm you know, Irene, I might just
have to rebook my trip. I'll see you another time over Moldova. I'm
with You've heard the men are pretty good over there as well. Okay,
well, as long as there's the wine, the wine, the wine works.
So Victoria let's let's talk a little bit air of the Witch. Now
we've seen the trailer, and when we post the podcast, I'll include the
link to the trailer and our posting so people can see that. But it's
based on some aspects of your own family life, and so I was wondering
if you could tell us a little bit about that. Yes, of course,
it's actually inspired based on my paternal grandmother. She was a witch and
not a kind one, but she was a ferocious one that was using her
actual powers to still pain and fear and our family. I have so many
stories that was told to me about my siblings and my own mother, How
she would come to our house and she would drop dead animals where she would
tie them with red ties and put them under the carpet or put them into
our items to bring in our family torment and arguments. And she was successful
about because my parents actually broke up when I was a one year old,
and she was very happy to affirm to everyone that she was the one behind
the whole thing unfolding. And I grew up with nightmares, with the nightmares
that she created and instilled in my heart, and I decided to write from
that place from that place of fear and that place of honesty and shame.
Wow, Victoria, did you say she terrorized and your family? But did
she do outsiders as well? Outside the family? She would, So,
from what I'm understanding, she was actually presenting herself as a witch that she
gave services as a palm reader or as trying to bring some type of happiness
or joy in your family. But instead she would use her powers to actually
bring discomforts in your family, because that's what the darkness was asking her to
do an exchange for them. Those dark powers, not to haunt her,
would torment her. And then I was also told that when she passed away,
she was on her deathbed for years, and she couldn't pass away because
she the dark spirits wouldn't release her soul until she will pass on that gift
or that curse to some one else and to the family, and they will
have to accept it. Until this day, we are wondering who's that person
who accepted that gift in the family. But we are not staying in touch
with them anymore. My father's side of the family, we don't stay in
touch with them, but it's still a very strong fear and a very strong
a reality and our family, so we're trying to keep our guard ups to
not interact as much to that side of the family. That's really fascinating.
Now, she broke your parents up when you were only a year old.
Did she continue to torment your mother and you or if you had any siblings?
After that, we moved out of that village. We moved on the
other side of the country, so we did not keep in touch with them.
The only memory I have of her is when hours about five years old,
we went to visit my aunt and that village and I stopped by to
say hello to her, and she asked me to come in the house and
she will do a spell for protection for me. And she taught me on
the chair, and I was just a child. I had no idea what
would happen. And she brought a bowl there was like a pan, like
a metal pan, and she put on top of my head and she started
to whisper the very dark spells. There were horrifying the things she was saying.
And she started to drop things into that bowl and it sounded like metals
and liquids, and she was telling things about animals and using their blood to
instill fear and still darkness, and I was terrified. As a child.
I remember telling myself, just don't listen to this, just don't accept whatever
she's saying, because this is not good. Even as a child, although
I wouldn't understand what she was doing, I knew this was wrong and it
terrified me. And then my sister walked in and she realized what happened,
and she grabbed my hand and we laughed, and we never came back to
that village, and we didn't stay in touch of that side of the family.
So I do not know to what extent she continued her witchcraft affairs,
but I was told and informed that she continued to do that all her life.
Did you ever or did anybody ever talk about how she got involved with
it? Was it something that was passed down through the family or was it
since it said like you were saying that the the demonic spirits or whatever they
were, wouldn't let her soul go until she passed it on to someone else
in the family. So did it sounds like it's been passed down for a
long time. Yeah, generations. Yeah, but it could possibly be that.
I do not know, and I tried to find my own understand and
answers why would grandmother accept such an agreement? And I had to find a
compassion in my heart to understand that she grew up into very hard times.
She faced the war, she faced the famine, and those are very hard
times. So for her to find a way to cope with what was going
on, she she had to turn to darkness to find a place of help.
And that's the only way I could find my compassion for her and forgive
what she has done upon our family. But where I did she choose that
and where it came from. I do not have an understanding of that,
And I hope that whoever shows that gift will choose differently because we always have
a choice. Yeah what it This might sound like it's coming out of left
field, but it actually your description of her and the things that she's doing
is very similar to a lot of Native American especially in the Southwest, amongst
the Navajo and even the Utes, when they talk about the evil witches,
especially the Navajo are very superstitious and fearful of evil witches, which they call
skin walkers, and the skin walkers are everything that you just described of your
grandmother. M Everything done for an evil purpose. So it's it's it goes
amongst different cultures too, that there are people that are like this walkers on
their shape shifters. Yes, yes, amongst the Native Americans, that's part
of what they can do. But they all also do a lot of the
same type of spells, casting spells to make people sick, make people have
bad luck, or to die. In fact, a skin walker to be
initiated as a skin walker has to kill a relative in order to be initiated
as a skin walker. Now again, that was that was taking a left
turn away from your story. If I just thought the similarities were, we're
striking all right. And it seemed like her intent and her purpose was to
hurt. She didn't use those powers to do anything for goodness of others,
but instead to harm them and to instill illness and to kill people, because
the more sacrifices she would bring to those dark spirits, the more she was
rewarded. And this is the information I got from directly from my family,
from my aunts from I did not witness that, and I'm grateful for that,
but I did grow up and live with the nightmares and this darkness and
this fear in me, that there was a certain energy and a certain presence
around me, that it followed me for years, and I had to find
the strengthen me and to pray and really call directly to God for help,
because that presence was following me around all the way up until my second year
of college, and I couldn't mistake it for anything else. It was very
heavy, it was very dark, and it terrified me. And that's where
that's where I started to write from. I wrote from a place of fear,
of right, from a place of pain, And that's how You're the
Witch came about. Yeah, I was going to ask you if you had
other experiences going beyond that, considering that you know, your parents broke up
when you were one, and then you had one other experience with her at
five, and yet there was so much trauma there. So I was curious
if you had other was did you have any? Or was it just the
feelings of the negativity in the heaviness. Maybe the energy that was following you
around was her energy, right, And I couldn't explain it exactly what it
was, but I knew it. It wasn't it was like anything else.
It wasn't anything else. That was familiar. That energy in that presence would
visit me once in a while, and every time was around, it was
very omnious and present. I couldn't make it, I couldn't omit it,
I couldn't ignore it, and it terrified me. And I knew it was
there, and I had to address it directly and tell it to leave,
and to ask God to help me protect me and I I had to battle
that for years. And I understand when I was a kid, maybe as
a child, I could have thought that it was just in my mind.
Maybe it was just a child or a teenager that's scared. But when I'm
an adult in college and I very presently feel that energy, then I knew
that this was not a fairy, taleful clore or some imagination. I knew
it was real and I had to have my own battle with it and I
had to overcome it. HM. But the pleasure and the pleasure she got
from hurting others, I feel that she was she was enjoying the energy that
was being given off by others. It was like feeding her, like like
an energy vampire. Probably I wouldn't know what exactly did for her personally.
I had to find a compassion and myself and ultimately forgive her. She passed
away, but then I took my own lessons from it and I became stronger
and overcome that fear, and then to be able to share that story from
a perspective of it's okay to have an open conversation this. You know,
energy is real and there's a lot of different years around, so it's okay
for us to just talk about it. And even if some people don't believe
it or don't accept it, I just want to share it from an honest
place and just to express my story. You weren't serve in a monastery.
I did. Yeah, So I had to actually go and live in a
monastery for several weeks where there was preet praying over me, and there was,
so to speak, an exorcism happening where I was. I wasn't myself.
I was The sounds and the screams that I was making there weren't mine.
And I knew very much that I had to be there and I had
to stay there. But I couldn't stay there. I was running out of
the monastery every time the prayers would start out the outside, and my mom
would beg me to just stay here. I stay here for one more minute,
and I knew for my own soul and my own peace, I knew
I had to stay there, but I couldn't. It was a very long
battle, and it took a long time for me to be able to continually
to stay through the prayers and through the service where it was actually the exorcism
was happening. So you basically were suffering from extreme oppression, if not downright
possessions and posson right. I've been very ashamed to say that for the longest
time of my life, but yes, I was battling those spirits for them
to leave me and to give me the peace wore that I deserve as a
soul, as a human, and I ultimately overcome it. And I I'm
glad because by actually sharing the story and putting a light on my wound where
it hurts so much, it actually helped me find my strength. And it's
okay. We all go through things and battles really that nobody knows about,
and as long as we're we find the strength to be vulnerable and talk about
it. This is what I'm facing, this is what the demons I'm battling,
and just just cheer me out. And it's okay if maybe you don't
agree with it, but this is the story I've been feeling, and it's
in their real for me. And by sharing and by hearing that and putting
it in and so I was inspired to write the movie, to direct it
from that place of authenticity and by hearing that, and actually, by the
end of making the movie, I became such a It became a process of
healing for me. It became a process of Oh, I overcome this.
This is actually okay, it happened, and I'm not the only one.
I connected with other people who have been going through similar places and that's okay.
And the movie itself, it was such a just a beautiful process,
and that team was amazing and everyone worked so hard, and it was one
of the best experiences of my life because I've worked on other projects as a
director or as a producer, but writing and directing this movie that was so
close to the bone, It was so just intimate for me. And showing
up, shown up from a place of honesty, that was the ultimate process
for me to overcome, to overcome this year. Yeah, just looking at
the trailer, you know, honestly, people when we advertise this, you
must go and look at this trailer, because it's as good as any film
I've seen. I'd love to say the whole film, but just that little
snippet we see that, I will say as as as a filmmaker myself,
and I was very impressed based on the trailer. The production values seemed very
high in this movie, between you know, prosthetics and maybe even CGI.
I don't know if you how much of that was in the movie, but
the scare effects, there's a lot in there that kind of reminds me of
The Evil Dead in terms of some of the graphicness of some of the characters.
And now the film itself, when did you shoot that? Was this
last year? No? It actually, oh gosh, it was such a
long process. So we started to we went to production of this movie and
the beginning of COVID, and it was the most challenging times because I didn't
know if the world is ending or we're still going to be able to make
a movie. But I pushed forward than I've asked the team to do it
very safely and we will all follow the rules of safety, and we have
a very storm team and was in the summer of twenty twenty July and August
is when I filmed. My team was made of eighty percent women, so
everybody was on board. It's just a let make an amazing story. But
then we encounter more challenges because everyone schedule was backed up because of COVID and
all of the schedules didn't run as we initially planned. It's been a two
and a half now almost three years in the making of this movie, and
I've learned so much during this movie. I I'm studying directing at UCLA School,
and I've learned so much more in making this movie than I made than
I've learned in the whole time at the film school. Because the challenges that
can arise on a set, during production, afterwards, and post production,
it's things that you can never expect, and when they arise, you have
to put your hat of a director or a producer or anything just to help
the movie come go along so you can bring it to the world and present
it. Because as an independent filmmaker, there's so many challenges, and we
had a limited budget. I couldn't have all the cgi that I wanted.
I couldn't afford to get the biggest team that I could I wanted to have
as a writer, as a creative, I had so much more that I
wanted to bring in this movie. But there's always limitations. And that's when
the true filmmaker and the true creativity and you spikes in when you have limits
and you still want to achieve a great picture and a great project. Well,
you know, for people who aren't in the film industry or don't understand
the filmmaking process, they think people like come together, actors show up,
they shoot a scene, and then it moves on to the next and there
are so many challenges involved, I mean, and sometimes all of the challenges,
even all of the drawbacks, worked your advantage. The best story out
there is Steven Spielberg's Jaws, where the damn shark didn't work and they had
to come up with all of these creative ways. They had so many technical
issues on that film that worked to the advantage because originally they were going to
show the shark from the beginning. Well, it turned out it was better
to not show the shark because then it built up the tension. And Jaws,
I think is one of the most perfect movies ever made. I mean,
that's the end result. Of it, but the hell they went through
behind the scenes, and movies are extremely challenging. You're you're constantly having to
change things, rewrite things, to mold to a budget, to mold to
time frames. And but people also don't usually realize is how much movies are
shot out of order. Sometimes you're shooting the ending first right, and you
have to be flexible, and you have to be open to those changes.
Like I had a specific scene that was written to be outside and then in
the middle of the scene, a major storm rolls in, and such a
storm that all the balloons flew away, all the place that it just it
was such a intense storm, and I said, just roll the cameras,
just roll with it. I said, this will work perfectly in the story.
And it actually brought in the aspect of that nothing works for Anna in
her world and even her own work. Your party got ruined by the storm,
got ruined by the nature. And if you if you're open to those,
so to speak, accidents, little access and if you didn't plan ahead,
but if you open to it, then you're flexible, it can actually
work in your favor. Now, of course, there is times where it
didn't work in our favor if a location you know it doesn't pan out,
or some actor can show up, and then you have to change your whole
schedule and the team, and you have to think on your feet and to
save the money and save the day, because every minute on set is very
costly. That's when as a creative you have to be okay to let go
of parts of the story that you wrote and thought and you put your heart
into it. But if it doesn't make sense and you can't do it,
you have to be okay to break your heart. Your own heart will be
broken in your project, but let go of that and do better. Do
the best outcome you can do for your movie, and not don't let it
offend you don't let it hurt too to a point of not moving forward.
There are also aspects of filmmaking where you may develop. You may have written
a beautiful scene, you shot it, it's fantastic, you love it.
You get into the editing room and as the movies coming together, you realize
that scene doesn't work, or you have to cut something for time. And
there's that phrase that we've all learned in film schools. Sometimes you have to
kill your darlings, absolutely so I'm sure. I'm sure you had to deal
with that, yes, And I had to be okay with that. I
wrote the script from a place of making sure that every character has their backstory,
every character has a need and a reason why they're on the page and
why they're speaking and why they're place and time. And it was a perfect
script. It was a perfect story. And I had to cut maybe thirty
five off of it, if not more. And there was time where I
knew how much time and work went into filming a scene that set up,
the makeup, the set design, the actual cost behind the scene that we
filmed it, and it was absolutely just magical and who had to cut it?
And it broke my heart, But I had to do it because at
the end of the day, the only goal in mind should be the movie
to be smooth and to flow and to be cool and be exciting, because
if it drags it, if it drives the movie at all, then it's
not meant to be there. And I had to take very important pieces of
the movie out that I would love to have kept them. But looking back,
I'm glad that I was. I was able to detach myself enough,
detached myself enough to let the baby create a baby, to cut it off
or whatever it needs to be cut off, just to make sure it's perfect
for the world when they see it and receive it. It's nothing extra and
nothing is missing, but it's perfect. That's why I have an issue most
of the time with director cuts of movies. You release a movie into the
theaters, there's your movie, and then down the road they recut the movie
and for either home video or whatever, and they release, sometimes even back
to the theaters a longer director's cut, and they throw back in all of
these scenes that were cut to begin with because maybe people love the movie and
they thought, okay, well, maybe they'll love even more of the movie,
which again, it still affects the pacing. How many versions of Blade
Runner are they're out there, you know. Ridley Scott did like about five
or six different versions of that movie over the years. Same thing with Coppola
with Apocalypse Now with his Apocalypse redo, he did that two or three times.
And usually when they do a director's cut, it doesn't work because you're
dragging the movie down or the scenes are repetitive. George Lucas when he went
back in and he redid his original Star Wars special Edition, trying to make
fancy new effects, but he threw in a bunch of cut scenes that were
completely pointless and repetitive of scenes that happened earlier, just because he could.
And by that point he was so rich and powerful, nobody had the guts
to say, hey, George, this is a stupid idea. Don't do
it. So yeah, I mean, there's only a couple of examples I
can say where maybe the director's cut is superior, but in most cases not
a bad idea. So, which is why movies get edited down. And
you know, a movie can be made or broken in the editing room if
you don't have a if you don't have a sharp editor, and that's when
the script is actually being written in the editing room, that's when the story
can take a completely different turn. And you have to be open to that
when you try different outcomes. What if we turn this around? How would
that be perceived? And obviously not with every story, but you have to
be open. And the editing room it's it's a living hell because there's so
much tidious work and you have to be open to that, and you have
to be involved enough as a writer and director. But also detached enough that
when somebody brings your feedback from the team, you're case to take it like
a champion. I'm like, yeah, that's okay, that's I agree,
that's crap. Yeah, let's take it out. And also it's great and
it's excellent, but it still needs to be cut off because it doesn't make
sense in the long run, and you have to be detached and let it
go. That's the true ultimate tests of a filmmaker. And you know,
again with the editing, you can change. As you mentioned, you're rewriting
in the editing room and refurbishing the story, and sometimes the way you the
order of the scenes in the script can it might work better by completely changing
the order of the scenes or of certain scenes. Have something maybe that was
supposed to happen in the middle of the movie, happen in the beginning to
set it up. It might flow better that way. So you're right,
you have to be open to those types of drastic changes in the creative process.
Is it's a creative process from beginning to end. I mean getting into
the sound mixing alone, having good sound in your movie and sound effects that
aren't that don't stand out and sound like obvious like voice replacement or cheap sound
effects, or that takes people right out of the movie. M yeah,
I said everything, every little piece is so important. But sound is such
an important part of the movie. I think we spend so much time,
months and months on the sound. I've didn't know there's seven eight different levels
of sound, and every single level has its own tone and different volume,
And it was a hideous process. And we had to prepare the movie to
be ready for the theater, so the theater's requirements or even more intense and
more strict than actual DVD or platform streaming platforms. And we spent a lot
of time into making sure that every aspect it's well taken care of. Because
as an indie filmmaker and as a first time filmmaker and a horror filmmaker,
we may be allowed to cut corners some places, but I didn't allow myself.
I said, I'm going to put my everything in this movie. And
my team worked along tirely every day, and we said we're going to make
a masterpiece from the start. We're going to do our best, We're going
to have the best intent to create a great movie from the beginning, and
I hope that we achieved that. So how did you get involved in filmmaking
to begin with? What drew you to it? Uh, it's always been
my long time just passion for film. But it's always been kind of one
of those goals that, oh, it's such a beautiful art, art,
just it's it's to high standards of living. And only when I was in
a moment of despairs and I had a very challenging journey about ten years ago,
and I stopped and asked myself, what does Victoria want? What is
my heart desire? And the answer was firm, direct and simple film.
That's what I want to do. And I started to take some classes,
it was Meisner classes and acting. I started to act in the short films
and school projects. And then I asked, anybody around any help on set,
I'll be there. It does not matter what department, I will be
there to help you because any day on set is better than anywhere else.
And it's been ever since I would get involved in all kinds of projects locals
and I'll travel just to be on film. And I have done about a
dozen short films myself, and then I worked on other people's projects. And
then I said, you know I need to make my own, my own
feature film, and at the beginning, I was going to make a thriller,
but due to budgetary restraints, I said, no, I have to
do a story that it doesn't require millions, that I can make it under
a million. And I went to again what hurts the most, and I
went to horror, and I want to personal story, and I was just
inspired by it. Of course, the movie itself has a lot of tourists
and a lot of creative story that it's nothing to do with the reality.
I mean, there is a lot of Easter eggs that actually resemble reality in
certain ways, but mostly it's been a creative process where I wrote a story
and I let them visit me and I hone that ideas and I wrote and
wrote at it for months until I was happy with it. I presented to
my team. They're all excited and happy, So let's make a movie.
And it's been a journey for three years in the making and now it's finally
here now with Pasha Entertainment um Quiver Distribution. So Pasha Entertainment is that your
production company or you just work with Pat Moore? Did you both found it
together or how's that so, Pasha entertained. Pasha's actually my mother's nickname.
M My mother's name is Patraskoga. She passed away four years ago, but
she was She grew up in hard times and she never had the chance to
follow her passion or her hobbies or to do something that she wanted to do
in life. She sacrificed herself for her children. And I when I decided
that I'm going to pursue this dream and goal of mine to make films and
movies, I said, I'm going to make my mom proud, and I
want to make sure that she knows that as a woman, I can pursue
my goals. And I nickname. I put the name of my production company's
Pasha Entertainment. It's her nickname. And she was very happy to see it
and to see my passion for it. Fantastic. Now the movie is coming
out on streaming August the fourth. Yes, so in August, the forms
will be on all streaming platforms. It will be on iTunes, on Amazon,
on all the streaming platforms. There's a long list, but there will
be available for renter By, and I hope that people would love to see
Then I want to hear their feedback on what they have to say about it.
It's been a long project and a long process, and I would love
to hear people's thoughts about it. Have you had any opportunities to show this
theatrically even limited? Yes, we actually have a red carpet premiere on August
second, and it's going to be a local theater. We have two showings
and it's almost sold out, so everybody's buying the tickets. Who will have
the media there and we'll have everyone. Everybody's been excited. It's been waiting
for this movie for so long. So we'll have a fun night that will
all dress up. You can't wait to get a long dress, a gown
and show up there and see all my friends and all the people were involved
in the team. So we can take pictures and then go see it on
the big screen. That would be fantastic. It's yeah, So it's satisfying
seeing a film that you worked on on the big screen. I've worked most
of the films I worked on many years ago. We're straight to home video,
terrible movies. I was just a hired hand, but a friend of
mine he made his own independent film. He wrote it directed it. We
shot it out in Oklahoma for six weeks, and when it was all done,
he rented a theater so that we could all watch it on the big
screen and it came up pretty good. Unfortunately, he gets screwed on by
the distributor and nobody ever saw the movie. So although it is available on
Amazon now too, but it's important to make sure that you research. You
know, there's so much I read, so many heartbreaking stories where filmmakers would
invest their time and money in a movie, have it completed and delivered,
and sign a bad deal of a bad distributor. And that's an investment.
That's basically you grow a business. You invested hundreds of thousands of dollars of
millions of dollars, and you handed a check to someone and you've never seen
a penny before again. So it is the filmmaker's responsibility to make sure that
you the research. Because the show business industry, it's a business. The
awards shows shorter, the business it's longer. So it's your duty as a
filmmaker. As a director, yes, we love to be creative and make
movies and just be in our creative space, but you have to do your
due diligence and make their research to be sure that when you hand that movie
to someone, that distributor will take care of it and we'll put it in
the world for everyone to see it. Because this is a very important decision,
one of the most important decisions you'll make in your movie process. And
I'm very, very happy with my distributor and our process so far. So
I'm excited fantastic. Now this might be jumping the gun a little bit,
but with the movie coming out in less than a month, about three weeks
actually the day it comes out as the day Irene picks me up the airport
together. Yeah. Yeah, we could stream it and we'll watch it together.
We'll watch it over in England. There we go, we'll pull on
Amazon. Um. Do you have any ideas or plans for your next project.
Yes, I'm very excited because the next project, it's called five.
It's a psychological thriller and it's something that I've been working on it. It
is stripped, is completed, and we've already shot the concept trailer and it
looks phenomenal. It's very exciting and it had twists and turns, think something
along the line of five Club and Gone girl and basic instincts there. So
it's a really cool story. It's fascinating, a lot of twists and turns,
and it keeps you at the edge of your seat the whole time.
And I cannot wait to start working and going in production into that and that
project. So it's called five and just I just can't wait to start filming
soon. It's been a just excitement in my heart just to keep going.
Yeah, because that's the thing. Once you get this premiere over with and
then the distributor takes it from there, it's like, Okay, now it's
time, let's get to work on this next project and keep going and keep
busy. Well, well, I'm really happy for you. It sounds like
you've got a great career starting off with this film. And and uh,
I can't wait to see the film itself. Plus the background and the story
is really really fascinating. I mean, because Irene and I come from you
know, I mentioned I have a film background, but Irene and I also
come from what would you call our background? Irene, I hate using the
P word anymore, but uh don't, I don't know, I've got several
backgrounds somewhere. Let's just say let's just say that we come from a I
hate using the paranormal word, but you know we both have yeah, yeah,
were both interested in the paranormal. What's in the paranormal? Yeah,
but we've also we've got we got some film ideas too, So, I
mean, Irene's a published author and we're trying to turn one of her books
actually into a television series. I wrote a pilot script for it. So
we got some other ideas too. So it's all taking that creative process.
And that's not really paranormal that one though, is that? Please? But
isn't. Yeah, it's a that's a different genre. But we do have
the more of the paranormal horror ones involving the ring and other things too.
So yeah, yeah, so yeah, we've got our hands in a bunch
of different pies as well. So totally understand important. It's very important to
stay creative. I think it's our duty and our responsibility as humans to create
and tell stories and don't feel ashamed when the music visit to be responsible and
be respectful for that idea, put it down because if you don't, someone
else will. And it's our unity to be creative. And I always encourage
people please write, Please just take a leap of faith. It doesn't have
to be a masterpiece, but who knows you might. But your duty is
to show up for you and for your responsibility and your desire to create and
tell stories to the world. Could not agree more. Being creative is extremely
important. I'm a creative one. I have a creative bone in my body.
You know. I've got a little bit. I've helped you with some
stuff, so I've had a few of my own things. So there,
see what I told you earlier, This is what we deal with here.
Um, Victoria, I want to thank you so much for coming on the
show, and we're really looking forward to seeing the movie and few going to
be some of the We're going to be two of the first people to see
this. Yep. On that day, I'll tell you we are. I'm
gonna I'm gonna get everything. I screams whatever you want, mob popcorn ye,
and then we're gonna stick it everywhere. So the film is Air of
the Witch, and it was dreaming everywhere on August the fourth, which is
Friday, and on all the streaming services. So Victoria, again, congratulations
and thank you for coming on. We wish you all the success for this
film. Yeah, well, Victoria, thank you, thank you so much.
I appreciate having me on your show, and thank you for offering your
platform for indie filmmakers because it's really hard sometimes to keep on going and see
this challenging time. But I appreciate the opportunity to be able to be here,
to have the movie completed and speak with you about it and for the
world to see it finally, So please let me know what your thoughts are
and I get in touch with me. I'm on Instagram, Era the Witch.
On Facebook It's Eero the Witch, or on our website here The Witch
dot com. Fantastic lovely. We will check that out. Okay, well,
Victoria, thank you again, and I want to thank everyone for tuning
into another edition of the Paranormal UK Radio Show, the flagship show here on
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and we will talk with you all again soon to be good humans and have
a good one to see you like Okay, bye, thank you bye.