1 00:00:05,719 --> 00:00:09,480 I see, well at the impossible or whatever remains however improbable must be true. 2 00:00:11,839 --> 00:00:15,279 And it is not a question of the little cultism. What a touch 3 00:00:15,320 --> 00:00:19,280 of mysticism is to dead? It is vampires. There's a host of damned 4 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:28,280 souls and Hellipus thy Father's spirit to do for a certain term, to walk 5 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:33,960 the night here. The old gods are to dead, and what is the 6 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:41,000 true god? He's dead? Can't complain. People assume the time is a 7 00:00:41,039 --> 00:00:45,119 strict progression of cause to effect that action. From a nonlinear, non subjective 8 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:49,880 viewpoint, it's more like a big ball of wibbly wobbly timey wimi stuff. 9 00:00:51,759 --> 00:00:57,759 You're listening to Paranormal UK Radio. Hi, everybody, This is Irene Island 10 00:00:57,960 --> 00:01:03,319 from the Paranormal UK Radio Show, the flagship show to the Paranormal UK Radio 11 00:01:03,439 --> 00:01:07,319 Network. And I'm not going to forget his name, even though he thinks 12 00:01:07,439 --> 00:01:15,280 I am Mark Johnson. Oh I'm very impressed. Oh yes, well you 13 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:22,680 always Three weeks Mark, three weeks, three weeks, three weeks from tomorrow, 14 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:26,840 I'll be getting on a plane and I'll be coming over to the British 15 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:34,400 Isles. Yeah, blend yeah, And three weeks one day from tomorrow I 16 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:40,280 will be dumping him in Bristol Channel. I'll irritate you enough by then. 17 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:48,879 All right, I'm pretty over here in the US. Will be going like 18 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:55,799 I wonder when Mark's coming back. Mark is not coming back. Yeah, 19 00:01:55,920 --> 00:02:01,200 well not necessarily a bad thing, but I could handle staying over there for 20 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:06,040 a while. Well. No, I'm not talking like that. I'm not 21 00:02:06,079 --> 00:02:09,240 saying I'll kidnap you or anything. No, no, you wouldn't do that. 22 00:02:09,439 --> 00:02:15,800 These aisles are very very very spooky paranormal place to be and happened to 23 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:21,280 you. Mark. Well, you are taking me to some spooky paranormal places 24 00:02:21,479 --> 00:02:27,639 to check out, so you know, well leave me there as long as 25 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:31,639 my I got battery power and some equipment. Listen, darling, as soon 26 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:38,599 as you walk into my house, you won't have any battery power. Oh 27 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:42,800 then I'll just have to use some of my other senses. Then, all 28 00:02:42,879 --> 00:02:47,639 right, then find them. I'm gonna see that black shadow that's been lurking 29 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:52,439 about a bit. Yeah, i'd like you to see that. Yeah. 30 00:02:53,080 --> 00:03:00,560 See how loud to scream? As long as there's no cats involved, No 31 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:07,840 cats in this house. Yeah, just just girtye the paranormal pup that's it. 32 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:13,800 And if anybody here should hear, didn't want to sound coming from behind 33 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:20,039 us, don't worry about it. Gertie is on the couch. She's an 34 00:03:20,039 --> 00:03:24,639 English bulldog and she snorls and there's nothing I can do about it. If 35 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:29,840 I put her into another room final you know, yeah, I have to 36 00:03:29,879 --> 00:03:32,360 have the parrot in here, and that'd be squawking. So the snoring is 37 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:38,319 a bit better than the squalking. Well, I finally get to meet Gie, 38 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:43,360 so well, hey, after twelve years, I finally get to meet 39 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:50,680 you too, So hey there's that. Yeah, well, show, let's 40 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:53,759 get on with the show. We're gonna have a good time anyway. Excited 41 00:03:53,840 --> 00:04:01,319 to speak to tonight's guest. We're talking with Victoria now. Victoria has a 42 00:04:01,599 --> 00:04:10,960 very interesting background. She is a filmmaker, so a writer, producer, 43 00:04:11,759 --> 00:04:17,920 director, actor, and uh. She has a new movie coming out in 44 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:27,360 August called Air of the Witch, which has some semi auto biographical elements to 45 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:31,279 it. So Victoria, welcome to the program. Hi, thank you for 46 00:04:31,439 --> 00:04:35,480 having me here. I'm really excited to speak with you both and to share 47 00:04:35,519 --> 00:04:39,800 a little bit about the story and the movie era the which. Thank you 48 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:46,279 for having me well, thank you. We're always fascinated about witches, especially 49 00:04:46,439 --> 00:04:49,519 you know her over there in the UK. You know, I'm no witch. 50 00:04:50,519 --> 00:04:57,040 Now, I said, you're fascinated by it, but no, there's 51 00:04:57,040 --> 00:05:01,560 a lot of in this country, goes back years. Yeah, yeah, 52 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:08,120 Victoria, it's on accent. Where were you born. I was born in 53 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:14,319 a Republic of Moldova. I lived there eighteen and then I moved to Romania. 54 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:17,000 I went there for college, and then I came to the United States 55 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:20,319 after I graduated college. And I've been living in the States for the last 56 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:27,319 eighteen years, so it's been my home. Now. Oh, I see, 57 00:05:29,399 --> 00:05:31,399 Now you're quite happy there. You like to do not just States. 58 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:39,439 Yeah, I'd love to get the Moldova. Yes, it's neighboring to Ukraine. 59 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:43,199 It's this tiny little country there, that it's just tiny, and that 60 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:46,279 we have great wine and beautiful women. That's all I can remember from home. 61 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:50,519 Now, well, now i'm you know, Irene, I might just 62 00:05:50,600 --> 00:06:00,120 have to rebook my trip. I'll see you another time over Moldova. I'm 63 00:06:00,199 --> 00:06:02,800 with You've heard the men are pretty good over there as well. Okay, 64 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:06,959 well, as long as there's the wine, the wine, the wine works. 65 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:15,000 So Victoria let's let's talk a little bit air of the Witch. Now 66 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:19,199 we've seen the trailer, and when we post the podcast, I'll include the 67 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:28,240 link to the trailer and our posting so people can see that. But it's 68 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:33,480 based on some aspects of your own family life, and so I was wondering 69 00:06:33,519 --> 00:06:38,720 if you could tell us a little bit about that. Yes, of course, 70 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:45,839 it's actually inspired based on my paternal grandmother. She was a witch and 71 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:49,480 not a kind one, but she was a ferocious one that was using her 72 00:06:49,519 --> 00:06:59,519 actual powers to still pain and fear and our family. I have so many 73 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:03,600 stories that was told to me about my siblings and my own mother, How 74 00:07:03,639 --> 00:07:09,800 she would come to our house and she would drop dead animals where she would 75 00:07:09,879 --> 00:07:15,240 tie them with red ties and put them under the carpet or put them into 76 00:07:15,319 --> 00:07:25,480 our items to bring in our family torment and arguments. And she was successful 77 00:07:25,519 --> 00:07:30,600 about because my parents actually broke up when I was a one year old, 78 00:07:30,199 --> 00:07:39,160 and she was very happy to affirm to everyone that she was the one behind 79 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:45,079 the whole thing unfolding. And I grew up with nightmares, with the nightmares 80 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:50,519 that she created and instilled in my heart, and I decided to write from 81 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:54,600 that place from that place of fear and that place of honesty and shame. 82 00:07:56,279 --> 00:08:05,920 Wow, Victoria, did you say she terrorized and your family? But did 83 00:08:05,959 --> 00:08:11,560 she do outsiders as well? Outside the family? She would, So, 84 00:08:11,879 --> 00:08:16,279 from what I'm understanding, she was actually presenting herself as a witch that she 85 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:22,639 gave services as a palm reader or as trying to bring some type of happiness 86 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:28,040 or joy in your family. But instead she would use her powers to actually 87 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:33,320 bring discomforts in your family, because that's what the darkness was asking her to 88 00:08:33,399 --> 00:08:39,639 do an exchange for them. Those dark powers, not to haunt her, 89 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:46,279 would torment her. And then I was also told that when she passed away, 90 00:08:46,399 --> 00:08:50,519 she was on her deathbed for years, and she couldn't pass away because 91 00:08:50,159 --> 00:08:58,279 she the dark spirits wouldn't release her soul until she will pass on that gift 92 00:08:58,440 --> 00:09:01,039 or that curse to some one else and to the family, and they will 93 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:05,840 have to accept it. Until this day, we are wondering who's that person 94 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:09,799 who accepted that gift in the family. But we are not staying in touch 95 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:13,399 with them anymore. My father's side of the family, we don't stay in 96 00:09:13,399 --> 00:09:20,240 touch with them, but it's still a very strong fear and a very strong 97 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:26,799 a reality and our family, so we're trying to keep our guard ups to 98 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:31,360 not interact as much to that side of the family. That's really fascinating. 99 00:09:33,399 --> 00:09:37,120 Now, she broke your parents up when you were only a year old. 100 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:45,919 Did she continue to torment your mother and you or if you had any siblings? 101 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:50,039 After that, we moved out of that village. We moved on the 102 00:09:50,039 --> 00:09:54,120 other side of the country, so we did not keep in touch with them. 103 00:09:54,440 --> 00:09:58,720 The only memory I have of her is when hours about five years old, 104 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:03,279 we went to visit my aunt and that village and I stopped by to 105 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:09,080 say hello to her, and she asked me to come in the house and 106 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:13,000 she will do a spell for protection for me. And she taught me on 107 00:10:13,039 --> 00:10:16,960 the chair, and I was just a child. I had no idea what 108 00:10:16,039 --> 00:10:20,840 would happen. And she brought a bowl there was like a pan, like 109 00:10:20,879 --> 00:10:24,440 a metal pan, and she put on top of my head and she started 110 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:31,440 to whisper the very dark spells. There were horrifying the things she was saying. 111 00:10:31,559 --> 00:10:35,480 And she started to drop things into that bowl and it sounded like metals 112 00:10:35,519 --> 00:10:41,679 and liquids, and she was telling things about animals and using their blood to 113 00:10:41,759 --> 00:10:46,000 instill fear and still darkness, and I was terrified. As a child. 114 00:10:46,039 --> 00:10:50,799 I remember telling myself, just don't listen to this, just don't accept whatever 115 00:10:50,879 --> 00:10:56,639 she's saying, because this is not good. Even as a child, although 116 00:10:56,639 --> 00:11:00,159 I wouldn't understand what she was doing, I knew this was wrong and it 117 00:11:00,399 --> 00:11:03,080 terrified me. And then my sister walked in and she realized what happened, 118 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:05,799 and she grabbed my hand and we laughed, and we never came back to 119 00:11:05,919 --> 00:11:09,120 that village, and we didn't stay in touch of that side of the family. 120 00:11:09,159 --> 00:11:15,720 So I do not know to what extent she continued her witchcraft affairs, 121 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:20,879 but I was told and informed that she continued to do that all her life. 122 00:11:20,759 --> 00:11:28,600 Did you ever or did anybody ever talk about how she got involved with 123 00:11:28,639 --> 00:11:33,639 it? Was it something that was passed down through the family or was it 124 00:11:33,679 --> 00:11:39,320 since it said like you were saying that the the demonic spirits or whatever they 125 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:43,519 were, wouldn't let her soul go until she passed it on to someone else 126 00:11:43,559 --> 00:11:50,440 in the family. So did it sounds like it's been passed down for a 127 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:56,399 long time. Yeah, generations. Yeah, but it could possibly be that. 128 00:11:56,600 --> 00:12:00,240 I do not know, and I tried to find my own understand and 129 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:05,639 answers why would grandmother accept such an agreement? And I had to find a 130 00:12:05,679 --> 00:12:11,120 compassion in my heart to understand that she grew up into very hard times. 131 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:16,320 She faced the war, she faced the famine, and those are very hard 132 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:20,159 times. So for her to find a way to cope with what was going 133 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:26,600 on, she she had to turn to darkness to find a place of help. 134 00:12:28,279 --> 00:12:33,200 And that's the only way I could find my compassion for her and forgive 135 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:37,639 what she has done upon our family. But where I did she choose that 136 00:12:37,759 --> 00:12:41,759 and where it came from. I do not have an understanding of that, 137 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:50,679 And I hope that whoever shows that gift will choose differently because we always have 138 00:12:50,759 --> 00:12:56,720 a choice. Yeah what it This might sound like it's coming out of left 139 00:12:56,799 --> 00:13:05,000 field, but it actually your description of her and the things that she's doing 140 00:13:05,879 --> 00:13:13,080 is very similar to a lot of Native American especially in the Southwest, amongst 141 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:18,519 the Navajo and even the Utes, when they talk about the evil witches, 142 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:26,639 especially the Navajo are very superstitious and fearful of evil witches, which they call 143 00:13:26,759 --> 00:13:33,200 skin walkers, and the skin walkers are everything that you just described of your 144 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:43,279 grandmother. M Everything done for an evil purpose. So it's it's it goes 145 00:13:43,320 --> 00:13:50,639 amongst different cultures too, that there are people that are like this walkers on 146 00:13:50,799 --> 00:13:58,240 their shape shifters. Yes, yes, amongst the Native Americans, that's part 147 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:01,279 of what they can do. But they all also do a lot of the 148 00:14:01,399 --> 00:14:07,600 same type of spells, casting spells to make people sick, make people have 149 00:14:07,799 --> 00:14:13,960 bad luck, or to die. In fact, a skin walker to be 150 00:14:15,039 --> 00:14:20,639 initiated as a skin walker has to kill a relative in order to be initiated 151 00:14:20,679 --> 00:14:24,960 as a skin walker. Now again, that was that was taking a left 152 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:31,480 turn away from your story. If I just thought the similarities were, we're 153 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:37,600 striking all right. And it seemed like her intent and her purpose was to 154 00:14:37,759 --> 00:14:41,360 hurt. She didn't use those powers to do anything for goodness of others, 155 00:14:41,399 --> 00:14:48,480 but instead to harm them and to instill illness and to kill people, because 156 00:14:48,519 --> 00:14:56,960 the more sacrifices she would bring to those dark spirits, the more she was 157 00:14:56,000 --> 00:15:01,600 rewarded. And this is the information I got from directly from my family, 158 00:15:01,759 --> 00:15:07,240 from my aunts from I did not witness that, and I'm grateful for that, 159 00:15:07,759 --> 00:15:11,440 but I did grow up and live with the nightmares and this darkness and 160 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:16,159 this fear in me, that there was a certain energy and a certain presence 161 00:15:16,440 --> 00:15:22,919 around me, that it followed me for years, and I had to find 162 00:15:22,919 --> 00:15:28,720 the strengthen me and to pray and really call directly to God for help, 163 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:33,519 because that presence was following me around all the way up until my second year 164 00:15:33,559 --> 00:15:37,759 of college, and I couldn't mistake it for anything else. It was very 165 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:41,879 heavy, it was very dark, and it terrified me. And that's where 166 00:15:43,919 --> 00:15:46,840 that's where I started to write from. I wrote from a place of fear, 167 00:15:46,879 --> 00:15:50,000 of right, from a place of pain, And that's how You're the 168 00:15:50,039 --> 00:15:56,000 Witch came about. Yeah, I was going to ask you if you had 169 00:15:56,159 --> 00:16:02,159 other experiences going beyond that, considering that you know, your parents broke up 170 00:16:02,399 --> 00:16:07,080 when you were one, and then you had one other experience with her at 171 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:12,039 five, and yet there was so much trauma there. So I was curious 172 00:16:12,039 --> 00:16:18,759 if you had other was did you have any? Or was it just the 173 00:16:18,799 --> 00:16:25,120 feelings of the negativity in the heaviness. Maybe the energy that was following you 174 00:16:25,159 --> 00:16:32,600 around was her energy, right, And I couldn't explain it exactly what it 175 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:36,960 was, but I knew it. It wasn't it was like anything else. 176 00:16:37,039 --> 00:16:41,159 It wasn't anything else. That was familiar. That energy in that presence would 177 00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:45,039 visit me once in a while, and every time was around, it was 178 00:16:45,639 --> 00:16:49,759 very omnious and present. I couldn't make it, I couldn't omit it, 179 00:16:49,799 --> 00:16:55,360 I couldn't ignore it, and it terrified me. And I knew it was 180 00:16:55,399 --> 00:16:59,639 there, and I had to address it directly and tell it to leave, 181 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:06,920 and to ask God to help me protect me and I I had to battle 182 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:10,960 that for years. And I understand when I was a kid, maybe as 183 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:12,119 a child, I could have thought that it was just in my mind. 184 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:15,319 Maybe it was just a child or a teenager that's scared. But when I'm 185 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:22,720 an adult in college and I very presently feel that energy, then I knew 186 00:17:22,759 --> 00:17:26,759 that this was not a fairy, taleful clore or some imagination. I knew 187 00:17:26,839 --> 00:17:30,240 it was real and I had to have my own battle with it and I 188 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:37,400 had to overcome it. HM. But the pleasure and the pleasure she got 189 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:45,640 from hurting others, I feel that she was she was enjoying the energy that 190 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:48,880 was being given off by others. It was like feeding her, like like 191 00:17:49,039 --> 00:17:56,079 an energy vampire. Probably I wouldn't know what exactly did for her personally. 192 00:17:57,200 --> 00:18:02,759 I had to find a compassion and myself and ultimately forgive her. She passed 193 00:18:02,799 --> 00:18:07,720 away, but then I took my own lessons from it and I became stronger 194 00:18:07,759 --> 00:18:11,839 and overcome that fear, and then to be able to share that story from 195 00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:15,960 a perspective of it's okay to have an open conversation this. You know, 196 00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:21,480 energy is real and there's a lot of different years around, so it's okay 197 00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:25,240 for us to just talk about it. And even if some people don't believe 198 00:18:25,279 --> 00:18:27,319 it or don't accept it, I just want to share it from an honest 199 00:18:27,359 --> 00:18:34,359 place and just to express my story. You weren't serve in a monastery. 200 00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:38,319 I did. Yeah, So I had to actually go and live in a 201 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:44,799 monastery for several weeks where there was preet praying over me, and there was, 202 00:18:45,839 --> 00:18:53,039 so to speak, an exorcism happening where I was. I wasn't myself. 203 00:18:53,559 --> 00:18:59,400 I was The sounds and the screams that I was making there weren't mine. 204 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:02,160 And I knew very much that I had to be there and I had 205 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:04,559 to stay there. But I couldn't stay there. I was running out of 206 00:19:04,599 --> 00:19:08,680 the monastery every time the prayers would start out the outside, and my mom 207 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:12,640 would beg me to just stay here. I stay here for one more minute, 208 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:18,599 and I knew for my own soul and my own peace, I knew 209 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:21,680 I had to stay there, but I couldn't. It was a very long 210 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:26,160 battle, and it took a long time for me to be able to continually 211 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:32,720 to stay through the prayers and through the service where it was actually the exorcism 212 00:19:32,839 --> 00:19:40,480 was happening. So you basically were suffering from extreme oppression, if not downright 213 00:19:40,759 --> 00:19:47,839 possessions and posson right. I've been very ashamed to say that for the longest 214 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:51,240 time of my life, but yes, I was battling those spirits for them 215 00:19:51,279 --> 00:19:53,400 to leave me and to give me the peace wore that I deserve as a 216 00:19:53,440 --> 00:19:59,279 soul, as a human, and I ultimately overcome it. And I I'm 217 00:19:59,319 --> 00:20:03,920 glad because by actually sharing the story and putting a light on my wound where 218 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:08,519 it hurts so much, it actually helped me find my strength. And it's 219 00:20:08,559 --> 00:20:14,000 okay. We all go through things and battles really that nobody knows about, 220 00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:18,799 and as long as we're we find the strength to be vulnerable and talk about 221 00:20:18,839 --> 00:20:22,559 it. This is what I'm facing, this is what the demons I'm battling, 222 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:29,200 and just just cheer me out. And it's okay if maybe you don't 223 00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:32,319 agree with it, but this is the story I've been feeling, and it's 224 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:37,559 in their real for me. And by sharing and by hearing that and putting 225 00:20:37,559 --> 00:20:40,839 it in and so I was inspired to write the movie, to direct it 226 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:47,519 from that place of authenticity and by hearing that, and actually, by the 227 00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:52,279 end of making the movie, I became such a It became a process of 228 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:56,599 healing for me. It became a process of Oh, I overcome this. 229 00:20:56,599 --> 00:21:00,279 This is actually okay, it happened, and I'm not the only one. 230 00:21:00,319 --> 00:21:06,839 I connected with other people who have been going through similar places and that's okay. 231 00:21:07,079 --> 00:21:11,759 And the movie itself, it was such a just a beautiful process, 232 00:21:11,839 --> 00:21:18,519 and that team was amazing and everyone worked so hard, and it was one 233 00:21:18,559 --> 00:21:22,680 of the best experiences of my life because I've worked on other projects as a 234 00:21:22,759 --> 00:21:26,400 director or as a producer, but writing and directing this movie that was so 235 00:21:26,519 --> 00:21:33,920 close to the bone, It was so just intimate for me. And showing 236 00:21:33,039 --> 00:21:40,160 up, shown up from a place of honesty, that was the ultimate process 237 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:45,240 for me to overcome, to overcome this year. Yeah, just looking at 238 00:21:45,279 --> 00:21:48,200 the trailer, you know, honestly, people when we advertise this, you 239 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:52,400 must go and look at this trailer, because it's as good as any film 240 00:21:52,559 --> 00:21:57,519 I've seen. I'd love to say the whole film, but just that little 241 00:21:57,519 --> 00:22:06,119 snippet we see that, I will say as as as a filmmaker myself, 242 00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:11,640 and I was very impressed based on the trailer. The production values seemed very 243 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:18,279 high in this movie, between you know, prosthetics and maybe even CGI. 244 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:22,039 I don't know if you how much of that was in the movie, but 245 00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:26,279 the scare effects, there's a lot in there that kind of reminds me of 246 00:22:26,279 --> 00:22:30,920 The Evil Dead in terms of some of the graphicness of some of the characters. 247 00:22:33,079 --> 00:22:40,599 And now the film itself, when did you shoot that? Was this 248 00:22:40,759 --> 00:22:44,480 last year? No? It actually, oh gosh, it was such a 249 00:22:44,519 --> 00:22:48,640 long process. So we started to we went to production of this movie and 250 00:22:48,799 --> 00:22:55,039 the beginning of COVID, and it was the most challenging times because I didn't 251 00:22:55,079 --> 00:22:57,079 know if the world is ending or we're still going to be able to make 252 00:22:57,119 --> 00:23:02,559 a movie. But I pushed forward than I've asked the team to do it 253 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:07,039 very safely and we will all follow the rules of safety, and we have 254 00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:14,559 a very storm team and was in the summer of twenty twenty July and August 255 00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:18,079 is when I filmed. My team was made of eighty percent women, so 256 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:22,519 everybody was on board. It's just a let make an amazing story. But 257 00:23:22,559 --> 00:23:29,839 then we encounter more challenges because everyone schedule was backed up because of COVID and 258 00:23:30,039 --> 00:23:34,799 all of the schedules didn't run as we initially planned. It's been a two 259 00:23:34,839 --> 00:23:40,880 and a half now almost three years in the making of this movie, and 260 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:45,079 I've learned so much during this movie. I I'm studying directing at UCLA School, 261 00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:48,599 and I've learned so much more in making this movie than I made than 262 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:53,680 I've learned in the whole time at the film school. Because the challenges that 263 00:23:53,759 --> 00:23:59,000 can arise on a set, during production, afterwards, and post production, 264 00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:03,440 it's things that you can never expect, and when they arise, you have 265 00:24:03,599 --> 00:24:08,519 to put your hat of a director or a producer or anything just to help 266 00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:15,319 the movie come go along so you can bring it to the world and present 267 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:19,000 it. Because as an independent filmmaker, there's so many challenges, and we 268 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:23,880 had a limited budget. I couldn't have all the cgi that I wanted. 269 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:30,559 I couldn't afford to get the biggest team that I could I wanted to have 270 00:24:30,599 --> 00:24:34,319 as a writer, as a creative, I had so much more that I 271 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:38,480 wanted to bring in this movie. But there's always limitations. And that's when 272 00:24:38,519 --> 00:24:45,920 the true filmmaker and the true creativity and you spikes in when you have limits 273 00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:49,559 and you still want to achieve a great picture and a great project. Well, 274 00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:56,799 you know, for people who aren't in the film industry or don't understand 275 00:24:56,960 --> 00:25:02,039 the filmmaking process, they think people like come together, actors show up, 276 00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:06,440 they shoot a scene, and then it moves on to the next and there 277 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:12,200 are so many challenges involved, I mean, and sometimes all of the challenges, 278 00:25:12,799 --> 00:25:18,319 even all of the drawbacks, worked your advantage. The best story out 279 00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:27,440 there is Steven Spielberg's Jaws, where the damn shark didn't work and they had 280 00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:34,079 to come up with all of these creative ways. They had so many technical 281 00:25:34,319 --> 00:25:41,000 issues on that film that worked to the advantage because originally they were going to 282 00:25:41,039 --> 00:25:44,599 show the shark from the beginning. Well, it turned out it was better 283 00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:51,960 to not show the shark because then it built up the tension. And Jaws, 284 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:55,000 I think is one of the most perfect movies ever made. I mean, 285 00:25:55,079 --> 00:25:59,640 that's the end result. Of it, but the hell they went through 286 00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:07,960 behind the scenes, and movies are extremely challenging. You're you're constantly having to 287 00:26:08,079 --> 00:26:14,359 change things, rewrite things, to mold to a budget, to mold to 288 00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:21,000 time frames. And but people also don't usually realize is how much movies are 289 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:26,480 shot out of order. Sometimes you're shooting the ending first right, and you 290 00:26:26,519 --> 00:26:30,680 have to be flexible, and you have to be open to those changes. 291 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:36,119 Like I had a specific scene that was written to be outside and then in 292 00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:40,400 the middle of the scene, a major storm rolls in, and such a 293 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:44,839 storm that all the balloons flew away, all the place that it just it 294 00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:48,680 was such a intense storm, and I said, just roll the cameras, 295 00:26:48,759 --> 00:26:52,799 just roll with it. I said, this will work perfectly in the story. 296 00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:56,599 And it actually brought in the aspect of that nothing works for Anna in 297 00:26:56,640 --> 00:27:00,640 her world and even her own work. Your party got ruined by the storm, 298 00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:06,559 got ruined by the nature. And if you if you're open to those, 299 00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:10,880 so to speak, accidents, little access and if you didn't plan ahead, 300 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:12,519 but if you open to it, then you're flexible, it can actually 301 00:27:12,559 --> 00:27:15,559 work in your favor. Now, of course, there is times where it 302 00:27:15,599 --> 00:27:21,240 didn't work in our favor if a location you know it doesn't pan out, 303 00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:23,759 or some actor can show up, and then you have to change your whole 304 00:27:23,799 --> 00:27:27,519 schedule and the team, and you have to think on your feet and to 305 00:27:27,599 --> 00:27:33,279 save the money and save the day, because every minute on set is very 306 00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:38,240 costly. That's when as a creative you have to be okay to let go 307 00:27:38,319 --> 00:27:42,519 of parts of the story that you wrote and thought and you put your heart 308 00:27:42,559 --> 00:27:45,319 into it. But if it doesn't make sense and you can't do it, 309 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:49,279 you have to be okay to break your heart. Your own heart will be 310 00:27:49,279 --> 00:27:53,319 broken in your project, but let go of that and do better. Do 311 00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:57,559 the best outcome you can do for your movie, and not don't let it 312 00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:02,079 offend you don't let it hurt too to a point of not moving forward. 313 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:11,960 There are also aspects of filmmaking where you may develop. You may have written 314 00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:18,039 a beautiful scene, you shot it, it's fantastic, you love it. 315 00:28:18,839 --> 00:28:26,000 You get into the editing room and as the movies coming together, you realize 316 00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:32,240 that scene doesn't work, or you have to cut something for time. And 317 00:28:32,319 --> 00:28:37,160 there's that phrase that we've all learned in film schools. Sometimes you have to 318 00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:42,480 kill your darlings, absolutely so I'm sure. I'm sure you had to deal 319 00:28:42,519 --> 00:28:45,599 with that, yes, And I had to be okay with that. I 320 00:28:47,119 --> 00:28:52,200 wrote the script from a place of making sure that every character has their backstory, 321 00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:55,960 every character has a need and a reason why they're on the page and 322 00:28:56,119 --> 00:29:00,440 why they're speaking and why they're place and time. And it was a perfect 323 00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:07,200 script. It was a perfect story. And I had to cut maybe thirty 324 00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:11,799 five off of it, if not more. And there was time where I 325 00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:15,400 knew how much time and work went into filming a scene that set up, 326 00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:22,640 the makeup, the set design, the actual cost behind the scene that we 327 00:29:22,759 --> 00:29:26,079 filmed it, and it was absolutely just magical and who had to cut it? 328 00:29:26,359 --> 00:29:29,839 And it broke my heart, But I had to do it because at 329 00:29:29,839 --> 00:29:33,519 the end of the day, the only goal in mind should be the movie 330 00:29:33,599 --> 00:29:37,079 to be smooth and to flow and to be cool and be exciting, because 331 00:29:37,079 --> 00:29:41,240 if it drags it, if it drives the movie at all, then it's 332 00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:45,559 not meant to be there. And I had to take very important pieces of 333 00:29:45,559 --> 00:29:49,680 the movie out that I would love to have kept them. But looking back, 334 00:29:51,079 --> 00:29:53,440 I'm glad that I was. I was able to detach myself enough, 335 00:29:55,039 --> 00:30:00,480 detached myself enough to let the baby create a baby, to cut it off 336 00:30:00,599 --> 00:30:03,160 or whatever it needs to be cut off, just to make sure it's perfect 337 00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:07,079 for the world when they see it and receive it. It's nothing extra and 338 00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:15,680 nothing is missing, but it's perfect. That's why I have an issue most 339 00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:22,000 of the time with director cuts of movies. You release a movie into the 340 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:27,799 theaters, there's your movie, and then down the road they recut the movie 341 00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:34,599 and for either home video or whatever, and they release, sometimes even back 342 00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:40,440 to the theaters a longer director's cut, and they throw back in all of 343 00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:47,720 these scenes that were cut to begin with because maybe people love the movie and 344 00:30:47,759 --> 00:30:51,200 they thought, okay, well, maybe they'll love even more of the movie, 345 00:30:51,279 --> 00:30:56,839 which again, it still affects the pacing. How many versions of Blade 346 00:30:56,920 --> 00:31:00,839 Runner are they're out there, you know. Ridley Scott did like about five 347 00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:06,799 or six different versions of that movie over the years. Same thing with Coppola 348 00:31:07,079 --> 00:31:11,720 with Apocalypse Now with his Apocalypse redo, he did that two or three times. 349 00:31:14,359 --> 00:31:22,480 And usually when they do a director's cut, it doesn't work because you're 350 00:31:22,559 --> 00:31:29,039 dragging the movie down or the scenes are repetitive. George Lucas when he went 351 00:31:29,079 --> 00:31:34,359 back in and he redid his original Star Wars special Edition, trying to make 352 00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:40,000 fancy new effects, but he threw in a bunch of cut scenes that were 353 00:31:40,599 --> 00:31:48,799 completely pointless and repetitive of scenes that happened earlier, just because he could. 354 00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:52,960 And by that point he was so rich and powerful, nobody had the guts 355 00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:55,759 to say, hey, George, this is a stupid idea. Don't do 356 00:31:55,960 --> 00:32:01,160 it. So yeah, I mean, there's only a couple of examples I 357 00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:07,960 can say where maybe the director's cut is superior, but in most cases not 358 00:32:08,079 --> 00:32:12,799 a bad idea. So, which is why movies get edited down. And 359 00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:19,279 you know, a movie can be made or broken in the editing room if 360 00:32:19,319 --> 00:32:23,559 you don't have a if you don't have a sharp editor, and that's when 361 00:32:23,559 --> 00:32:29,039 the script is actually being written in the editing room, that's when the story 362 00:32:29,119 --> 00:32:32,039 can take a completely different turn. And you have to be open to that 363 00:32:32,279 --> 00:32:38,319 when you try different outcomes. What if we turn this around? How would 364 00:32:38,319 --> 00:32:42,480 that be perceived? And obviously not with every story, but you have to 365 00:32:42,519 --> 00:32:45,799 be open. And the editing room it's it's a living hell because there's so 366 00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:50,039 much tidious work and you have to be open to that, and you have 367 00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:55,599 to be involved enough as a writer and director. But also detached enough that 368 00:32:55,720 --> 00:33:00,799 when somebody brings your feedback from the team, you're case to take it like 369 00:33:00,839 --> 00:33:02,039 a champion. I'm like, yeah, that's okay, that's I agree, 370 00:33:02,119 --> 00:33:07,200 that's crap. Yeah, let's take it out. And also it's great and 371 00:33:07,279 --> 00:33:12,240 it's excellent, but it still needs to be cut off because it doesn't make 372 00:33:12,279 --> 00:33:14,839 sense in the long run, and you have to be detached and let it 373 00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:21,920 go. That's the true ultimate tests of a filmmaker. And you know, 374 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:28,960 again with the editing, you can change. As you mentioned, you're rewriting 375 00:33:29,039 --> 00:33:35,319 in the editing room and refurbishing the story, and sometimes the way you the 376 00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:40,680 order of the scenes in the script can it might work better by completely changing 377 00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:45,839 the order of the scenes or of certain scenes. Have something maybe that was 378 00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:49,880 supposed to happen in the middle of the movie, happen in the beginning to 379 00:33:50,039 --> 00:33:53,480 set it up. It might flow better that way. So you're right, 380 00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:59,759 you have to be open to those types of drastic changes in the creative process. 381 00:34:00,079 --> 00:34:04,359 Is it's a creative process from beginning to end. I mean getting into 382 00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:10,039 the sound mixing alone, having good sound in your movie and sound effects that 383 00:34:10,119 --> 00:34:17,599 aren't that don't stand out and sound like obvious like voice replacement or cheap sound 384 00:34:17,599 --> 00:34:22,920 effects, or that takes people right out of the movie. M yeah, 385 00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:27,239 I said everything, every little piece is so important. But sound is such 386 00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:30,840 an important part of the movie. I think we spend so much time, 387 00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:37,960 months and months on the sound. I've didn't know there's seven eight different levels 388 00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:43,679 of sound, and every single level has its own tone and different volume, 389 00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:47,199 And it was a hideous process. And we had to prepare the movie to 390 00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:52,440 be ready for the theater, so the theater's requirements or even more intense and 391 00:34:52,599 --> 00:35:00,559 more strict than actual DVD or platform streaming platforms. And we spent a lot 392 00:35:00,559 --> 00:35:05,599 of time into making sure that every aspect it's well taken care of. Because 393 00:35:06,519 --> 00:35:09,840 as an indie filmmaker and as a first time filmmaker and a horror filmmaker, 394 00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:16,159 we may be allowed to cut corners some places, but I didn't allow myself. 395 00:35:16,559 --> 00:35:21,199 I said, I'm going to put my everything in this movie. And 396 00:35:21,599 --> 00:35:25,280 my team worked along tirely every day, and we said we're going to make 397 00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:29,559 a masterpiece from the start. We're going to do our best, We're going 398 00:35:29,599 --> 00:35:34,440 to have the best intent to create a great movie from the beginning, and 399 00:35:34,519 --> 00:35:39,719 I hope that we achieved that. So how did you get involved in filmmaking 400 00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:45,920 to begin with? What drew you to it? Uh, it's always been 401 00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:52,960 my long time just passion for film. But it's always been kind of one 402 00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:57,960 of those goals that, oh, it's such a beautiful art, art, 403 00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:04,719 just it's it's to high standards of living. And only when I was in 404 00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:08,840 a moment of despairs and I had a very challenging journey about ten years ago, 405 00:36:09,599 --> 00:36:14,480 and I stopped and asked myself, what does Victoria want? What is 406 00:36:14,519 --> 00:36:19,639 my heart desire? And the answer was firm, direct and simple film. 407 00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:22,360 That's what I want to do. And I started to take some classes, 408 00:36:22,559 --> 00:36:28,119 it was Meisner classes and acting. I started to act in the short films 409 00:36:28,119 --> 00:36:32,079 and school projects. And then I asked, anybody around any help on set, 410 00:36:32,159 --> 00:36:36,559 I'll be there. It does not matter what department, I will be 411 00:36:36,599 --> 00:36:39,679 there to help you because any day on set is better than anywhere else. 412 00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:46,639 And it's been ever since I would get involved in all kinds of projects locals 413 00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:52,559 and I'll travel just to be on film. And I have done about a 414 00:36:52,599 --> 00:36:55,000 dozen short films myself, and then I worked on other people's projects. And 415 00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:58,719 then I said, you know I need to make my own, my own 416 00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:02,440 feature film, and at the beginning, I was going to make a thriller, 417 00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:07,239 but due to budgetary restraints, I said, no, I have to 418 00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:14,039 do a story that it doesn't require millions, that I can make it under 419 00:37:14,079 --> 00:37:19,199 a million. And I went to again what hurts the most, and I 420 00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:22,679 went to horror, and I want to personal story, and I was just 421 00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:27,480 inspired by it. Of course, the movie itself has a lot of tourists 422 00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:31,719 and a lot of creative story that it's nothing to do with the reality. 423 00:37:32,079 --> 00:37:37,280 I mean, there is a lot of Easter eggs that actually resemble reality in 424 00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:42,920 certain ways, but mostly it's been a creative process where I wrote a story 425 00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:47,000 and I let them visit me and I hone that ideas and I wrote and 426 00:37:47,079 --> 00:37:52,280 wrote at it for months until I was happy with it. I presented to 427 00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:54,719 my team. They're all excited and happy, So let's make a movie. 428 00:37:54,800 --> 00:38:01,079 And it's been a journey for three years in the making and now it's finally 429 00:38:01,159 --> 00:38:14,920 here now with Pasha Entertainment um Quiver Distribution. So Pasha Entertainment is that your 430 00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:19,800 production company or you just work with Pat Moore? Did you both found it 431 00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:24,559 together or how's that so, Pasha entertained. Pasha's actually my mother's nickname. 432 00:38:25,119 --> 00:38:30,840 M My mother's name is Patraskoga. She passed away four years ago, but 433 00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:36,920 she was She grew up in hard times and she never had the chance to 434 00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:42,000 follow her passion or her hobbies or to do something that she wanted to do 435 00:38:42,039 --> 00:38:46,039 in life. She sacrificed herself for her children. And I when I decided 436 00:38:46,079 --> 00:38:51,880 that I'm going to pursue this dream and goal of mine to make films and 437 00:38:52,039 --> 00:38:54,239 movies, I said, I'm going to make my mom proud, and I 438 00:38:54,280 --> 00:39:00,639 want to make sure that she knows that as a woman, I can pursue 439 00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:05,039 my goals. And I nickname. I put the name of my production company's 440 00:39:05,039 --> 00:39:09,440 Pasha Entertainment. It's her nickname. And she was very happy to see it 441 00:39:09,599 --> 00:39:20,519 and to see my passion for it. Fantastic. Now the movie is coming 442 00:39:20,519 --> 00:39:25,440 out on streaming August the fourth. Yes, so in August, the forms 443 00:39:25,639 --> 00:39:30,679 will be on all streaming platforms. It will be on iTunes, on Amazon, 444 00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:36,159 on all the streaming platforms. There's a long list, but there will 445 00:39:36,199 --> 00:39:39,480 be available for renter By, and I hope that people would love to see 446 00:39:39,519 --> 00:39:43,360 Then I want to hear their feedback on what they have to say about it. 447 00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:45,000 It's been a long project and a long process, and I would love 448 00:39:45,039 --> 00:39:52,360 to hear people's thoughts about it. Have you had any opportunities to show this 449 00:39:52,039 --> 00:40:02,280 theatrically even limited? Yes, we actually have a red carpet premiere on August 450 00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:07,440 second, and it's going to be a local theater. We have two showings 451 00:40:07,559 --> 00:40:10,920 and it's almost sold out, so everybody's buying the tickets. Who will have 452 00:40:12,159 --> 00:40:16,119 the media there and we'll have everyone. Everybody's been excited. It's been waiting 453 00:40:16,119 --> 00:40:21,079 for this movie for so long. So we'll have a fun night that will 454 00:40:21,119 --> 00:40:24,000 all dress up. You can't wait to get a long dress, a gown 455 00:40:24,119 --> 00:40:29,519 and show up there and see all my friends and all the people were involved 456 00:40:29,599 --> 00:40:32,000 in the team. So we can take pictures and then go see it on 457 00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:38,880 the big screen. That would be fantastic. It's yeah, So it's satisfying 458 00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:45,519 seeing a film that you worked on on the big screen. I've worked most 459 00:40:45,519 --> 00:40:50,079 of the films I worked on many years ago. We're straight to home video, 460 00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:55,440 terrible movies. I was just a hired hand, but a friend of 461 00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:59,679 mine he made his own independent film. He wrote it directed it. We 462 00:40:59,679 --> 00:41:04,639 shot it out in Oklahoma for six weeks, and when it was all done, 463 00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:08,519 he rented a theater so that we could all watch it on the big 464 00:41:08,559 --> 00:41:14,760 screen and it came up pretty good. Unfortunately, he gets screwed on by 465 00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:19,559 the distributor and nobody ever saw the movie. So although it is available on 466 00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:28,440 Amazon now too, but it's important to make sure that you research. You 467 00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:34,559 know, there's so much I read, so many heartbreaking stories where filmmakers would 468 00:41:34,559 --> 00:41:37,719 invest their time and money in a movie, have it completed and delivered, 469 00:41:38,199 --> 00:41:43,199 and sign a bad deal of a bad distributor. And that's an investment. 470 00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:46,679 That's basically you grow a business. You invested hundreds of thousands of dollars of 471 00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:52,679 millions of dollars, and you handed a check to someone and you've never seen 472 00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:57,880 a penny before again. So it is the filmmaker's responsibility to make sure that 473 00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:02,760 you the research. Because the show business industry, it's a business. The 474 00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:07,920 awards shows shorter, the business it's longer. So it's your duty as a 475 00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:12,280 filmmaker. As a director, yes, we love to be creative and make 476 00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:15,960 movies and just be in our creative space, but you have to do your 477 00:42:16,039 --> 00:42:22,440 due diligence and make their research to be sure that when you hand that movie 478 00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:24,800 to someone, that distributor will take care of it and we'll put it in 479 00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:29,679 the world for everyone to see it. Because this is a very important decision, 480 00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:34,039 one of the most important decisions you'll make in your movie process. And 481 00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:37,039 I'm very, very happy with my distributor and our process so far. So 482 00:42:37,519 --> 00:42:46,000 I'm excited fantastic. Now this might be jumping the gun a little bit, 483 00:42:46,199 --> 00:42:52,599 but with the movie coming out in less than a month, about three weeks 484 00:42:54,119 --> 00:43:00,519 actually the day it comes out as the day Irene picks me up the airport 485 00:43:01,599 --> 00:43:06,840 together. Yeah. Yeah, we could stream it and we'll watch it together. 486 00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:12,000 We'll watch it over in England. There we go, we'll pull on 487 00:43:12,079 --> 00:43:19,719 Amazon. Um. Do you have any ideas or plans for your next project. 488 00:43:21,039 --> 00:43:24,119 Yes, I'm very excited because the next project, it's called five. 489 00:43:24,679 --> 00:43:30,360 It's a psychological thriller and it's something that I've been working on it. It 490 00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:34,800 is stripped, is completed, and we've already shot the concept trailer and it 491 00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:38,440 looks phenomenal. It's very exciting and it had twists and turns, think something 492 00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:51,159 along the line of five Club and Gone girl and basic instincts there. So 493 00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:54,679 it's a really cool story. It's fascinating, a lot of twists and turns, 494 00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:58,239 and it keeps you at the edge of your seat the whole time. 495 00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:02,000 And I cannot wait to start working and going in production into that and that 496 00:44:02,119 --> 00:44:08,400 project. So it's called five and just I just can't wait to start filming 497 00:44:08,599 --> 00:44:14,280 soon. It's been a just excitement in my heart just to keep going. 498 00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:17,559 Yeah, because that's the thing. Once you get this premiere over with and 499 00:44:17,599 --> 00:44:22,599 then the distributor takes it from there, it's like, Okay, now it's 500 00:44:22,639 --> 00:44:27,679 time, let's get to work on this next project and keep going and keep 501 00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:34,199 busy. Well, well, I'm really happy for you. It sounds like 502 00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:38,639 you've got a great career starting off with this film. And and uh, 503 00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:43,639 I can't wait to see the film itself. Plus the background and the story 504 00:44:44,039 --> 00:44:50,360 is really really fascinating. I mean, because Irene and I come from you 505 00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:52,519 know, I mentioned I have a film background, but Irene and I also 506 00:44:52,559 --> 00:44:59,000 come from what would you call our background? Irene, I hate using the 507 00:44:59,079 --> 00:45:05,079 P word anymore, but uh don't, I don't know, I've got several 508 00:45:05,119 --> 00:45:10,000 backgrounds somewhere. Let's just say let's just say that we come from a I 509 00:45:10,039 --> 00:45:16,960 hate using the paranormal word, but you know we both have yeah, yeah, 510 00:45:17,079 --> 00:45:23,360 were both interested in the paranormal. What's in the paranormal? Yeah, 511 00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:28,639 but we've also we've got we got some film ideas too, So, I 512 00:45:28,639 --> 00:45:36,079 mean, Irene's a published author and we're trying to turn one of her books 513 00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:39,840 actually into a television series. I wrote a pilot script for it. So 514 00:45:40,119 --> 00:45:44,840 we got some other ideas too. So it's all taking that creative process. 515 00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:51,760 And that's not really paranormal that one though, is that? Please? But 516 00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:55,719 isn't. Yeah, it's a that's a different genre. But we do have 517 00:45:55,840 --> 00:46:05,519 the more of the paranormal horror ones involving the ring and other things too. 518 00:46:05,599 --> 00:46:09,599 So yeah, yeah, so yeah, we've got our hands in a bunch 519 00:46:09,599 --> 00:46:15,280 of different pies as well. So totally understand important. It's very important to 520 00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:20,840 stay creative. I think it's our duty and our responsibility as humans to create 521 00:46:21,039 --> 00:46:29,360 and tell stories and don't feel ashamed when the music visit to be responsible and 522 00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:32,679 be respectful for that idea, put it down because if you don't, someone 523 00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:37,199 else will. And it's our unity to be creative. And I always encourage 524 00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:43,119 people please write, Please just take a leap of faith. It doesn't have 525 00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:46,480 to be a masterpiece, but who knows you might. But your duty is 526 00:46:46,519 --> 00:46:52,079 to show up for you and for your responsibility and your desire to create and 527 00:46:52,119 --> 00:46:59,519 tell stories to the world. Could not agree more. Being creative is extremely 528 00:46:59,559 --> 00:47:06,800 important. I'm a creative one. I have a creative bone in my body. 529 00:47:07,039 --> 00:47:12,400 You know. I've got a little bit. I've helped you with some 530 00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:15,199 stuff, so I've had a few of my own things. So there, 531 00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:20,920 see what I told you earlier, This is what we deal with here. 532 00:47:21,519 --> 00:47:24,639 Um, Victoria, I want to thank you so much for coming on the 533 00:47:24,679 --> 00:47:30,800 show, and we're really looking forward to seeing the movie and few going to 534 00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:32,960 be some of the We're going to be two of the first people to see 535 00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:37,920 this. Yep. On that day, I'll tell you we are. I'm 536 00:47:37,599 --> 00:47:45,800 gonna I'm gonna get everything. I screams whatever you want, mob popcorn ye, 537 00:47:45,199 --> 00:47:51,599 and then we're gonna stick it everywhere. So the film is Air of 538 00:47:51,639 --> 00:47:58,320 the Witch, and it was dreaming everywhere on August the fourth, which is 539 00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:05,280 Friday, and on all the streaming services. So Victoria, again, congratulations 540 00:48:06,039 --> 00:48:08,960 and thank you for coming on. We wish you all the success for this 541 00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:15,639 film. Yeah, well, Victoria, thank you, thank you so much. 542 00:48:15,679 --> 00:48:20,960 I appreciate having me on your show, and thank you for offering your 543 00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:25,159 platform for indie filmmakers because it's really hard sometimes to keep on going and see 544 00:48:25,239 --> 00:48:31,679 this challenging time. But I appreciate the opportunity to be able to be here, 545 00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:36,119 to have the movie completed and speak with you about it and for the 546 00:48:36,159 --> 00:48:39,159 world to see it finally, So please let me know what your thoughts are 547 00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:43,840 and I get in touch with me. I'm on Instagram, Era the Witch. 548 00:48:44,239 --> 00:48:46,800 On Facebook It's Eero the Witch, or on our website here The Witch 549 00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:52,960 dot com. Fantastic lovely. We will check that out. Okay, well, 550 00:48:52,079 --> 00:48:57,599 Victoria, thank you again, and I want to thank everyone for tuning 551 00:48:57,639 --> 00:49:01,920 into another edition of the Paranormal UK Radio Show, the flagship show here on 552 00:49:02,039 --> 00:49:07,320 the Paranormal UK Radio Network. Everygan where can people find us? Everywhere? 553 00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:13,679 People just about everywhere? All right, everyone, you have a great evening 554 00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:17,599 and we will talk with you all again soon to be good humans and have 555 00:49:17,679 --> 00:49:27,280 a good one to see you like Okay, bye, thank you bye.