1 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:30,239 Hello everybody, Welcome back to That's No Matal, and welcome back to hyper 2 00:00:30,239 --> 00:00:33,200 Blast. We are coming at you with the week's news in rock and metal, 3 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:36,600 and we are gonna fix you right up with all of that. I 4 00:00:36,719 --> 00:00:40,039 have fallen ill in like the two days since we did the Hours and Chain 5 00:00:40,079 --> 00:00:41,560 special. I felt like coming on and I was like, well, I'm 6 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:45,359 very glad I didn't have to talk for you know, about three hours on 7 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:50,119 dirt sounding like you know, I'm in that room where it's recorded. Apologies, 8 00:00:50,159 --> 00:00:53,439 but we are ready to go with all of this. My name is 9 00:00:53,439 --> 00:00:58,920 Perren Hash with me is Sam Dignon and Mark Anderson is here as well. 10 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:02,000 How are we all? Yeah? Yeah, I'm on Like the other end 11 00:01:02,039 --> 00:01:06,000 of being ill, like yeah, you covidn't you? I'm pretty sure it's 12 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:08,319 COVID. The test was saying no, but I mean it was everything that 13 00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:11,959 I had. I had last night COVID. But I'm I bounced back. 14 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:15,719 I'm all good Now when I'm ready to chat shit and shoot one of my 15 00:01:15,719 --> 00:01:19,239 favorite bands, I feel like I'm a I'm about to become ill. Thanks 16 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:23,760 to the rock and roll show I was at, Yeah, which was that 17 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:30,040 I wanted to see Mutoid Many a rock and roll show. Oh it was 18 00:01:30,159 --> 00:01:38,519 proper like sweaty, dirty, hard rocking time. I really love the new 19 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:42,640 Mutoid Man album and seeing those songs, it just sounded so good. They're 20 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:49,920 all the time so fun that Stephen Brodsky opened the set by shouting happy Mutoid 21 00:01:49,959 --> 00:01:53,760 Monday, immediately going into Call of the Void into Bridge Burner, like that's 22 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:59,719 how you fucking starter set? It was. It was a fucking rock and 23 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:04,519 tie. Let me tell you, absolutely beautiful speaking of a rock and time. 24 00:02:04,519 --> 00:02:07,360 We are going to fly through all the news because my voice probably can't 25 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:09,840 stand up to do it for too long, but we are going to start 26 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:15,360 with a clip that surfaced on the Internet this week courtesy of a CDC who 27 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:22,400 posted they're sort of a bit of rehearsal footage for the upcoming Massive Power Trip 28 00:02:22,439 --> 00:02:25,240 event that is happening. Whether they are one of like the six Massive Batters 29 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:30,080 to be the kind of representatives of rock and metal in like the largest stage 30 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:34,879 in the world. I didn't even realize that it had been so long since 31 00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:38,000 ACDC even set foot on a stage, because they have, of course released 32 00:02:38,039 --> 00:02:46,000 the Power Up album back in was that twenty It was early in and I 33 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:49,560 guess it makes sense that they didn't play shows for that. But the last 34 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:53,319 time ACDC where a live act was I believe all the way back in like 35 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:59,000 twenty sixteen something like that, So it's pretty fucking crazy. And I guess 36 00:02:59,039 --> 00:03:02,879 they had to confirm who was in the band because Brian Johnson wasn't the vocalist 37 00:03:04,159 --> 00:03:06,560 the last time they played a show it was all the way back in the 38 00:03:06,599 --> 00:03:12,120 Axel DC era, So you know, upcoming, no surprise considering hit they 39 00:03:12,159 --> 00:03:15,759 recorded a fucking album, but obviously Brian Johnson is back. These sort of 40 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:20,800 bigger news I guess is that Cliff Williams has come out of retirement to do 41 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:24,439 this particular show. I guess the fact that it's not a huge tour helps 42 00:03:24,479 --> 00:03:29,879 in that regard. Also, I guess the slightly spicier piece of information here 43 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:32,919 is that Phil Rudd, who returned to record the Power Up album with them, 44 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:37,840 is not part of the live band for this and they have instead got 45 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:40,759 a new dramma called Matt Lowell on Matt Lorgue. And there was a lot 46 00:03:40,759 --> 00:03:44,360 of like, oh my god, I can't believe Phil's gone again. No 47 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:49,560 Phil, no ACDC. There's a very very simple explanation for this. It's 48 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:53,400 the fact that he's got a criminal record and so we can't enter the USA. 49 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:57,280 That's what's happening here. He might well be a CDC drow next time 50 00:03:57,280 --> 00:04:00,919 they record an album. But last time we were talking about Phil Red, 51 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:04,080 he was like threatening to kill people so he can't go to Power Trip festival. 52 00:04:04,159 --> 00:04:10,479 I'm sorry, Yeah, the lads are wrong, and it was such 53 00:04:10,479 --> 00:04:12,639 a huge thing. Oh my god, I can't believe Phil that the bands 54 00:04:12,639 --> 00:04:15,719 like, yeah, he can't go, they won't let him in. Yeah, 55 00:04:15,719 --> 00:04:17,360 I thought couldn't. Everyone would just have accepted that. No, I 56 00:04:17,399 --> 00:04:20,240 think I think people have forgotten that. Though people have forgotten that he can't 57 00:04:20,399 --> 00:04:27,480 enter the country, they've forgotten he's canceled. Yeah, just don't have him 58 00:04:27,519 --> 00:04:32,959 in the band anyway. Guys are prick. Yeah, I mean he's I'm 59 00:04:32,959 --> 00:04:38,519 not gonna say, Phil Red's not a prick. Like if he if they 60 00:04:38,519 --> 00:04:42,800 want to have him record the records whatever, fine, fine, Yeah, 61 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:46,160 I don't care that much. I just did find it very funny funny when 62 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:54,040 the Phil Red Stan Army just couldn't quite comprehend that he can't go if he 63 00:04:54,079 --> 00:04:56,439 does record the next album, wicked. If there even is a next album, 64 00:04:56,480 --> 00:04:59,399 you know, Power probably had been the last one. But yep, 65 00:04:59,639 --> 00:05:03,240 that is what acdc's live lineup for their first show in seven years is looking 66 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:06,319 at. I've got two stories here that I thought were it was just very 67 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:11,879 funny that they happened in the same week from completely different areas of the rock 68 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:15,560 and metal ladder. Nickelback the one you will probably see more widely reported. 69 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:20,560 Nickelback. I've always had quite good spirits about the fact that they are the 70 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:25,279 butt of a joke, right, Like, it feels like we've discussed this, 71 00:05:25,319 --> 00:05:28,319 like the last time we reviewed a Nickelback album, which was like shockingly 72 00:05:28,399 --> 00:05:33,920 fun. They're sort of like the tide of Nickelback hatred and then being like 73 00:05:35,079 --> 00:05:41,160 the whipping boy of the rock internet. Has it kind of turned at some 74 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:47,199 point in the twenty tens, Yeah, they definitely became less like the most 75 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:49,959 like obviously hate band. I think there's just time moved on and there were 76 00:05:49,959 --> 00:05:55,639 new things to hate cropping up, so people moved on from it. But 77 00:05:56,720 --> 00:06:01,319 yeah, yeah, it was a sort of a slow until roundabout when Feed 78 00:06:01,319 --> 00:06:05,199 the Machine came out in twenty seventeen. It started to die down completely. 79 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:14,079 I think it's completely fucking fair enough if they're getting annoyed about this. Yeah, 80 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:16,680 So the actual story in question here, because I haven't read the headline, 81 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:21,399 is that we we've you know, we were speaking about how Nickelback's hate 82 00:06:21,399 --> 00:06:26,720 train seems to have very much departed the station and Nickelback have always been quite 83 00:06:27,639 --> 00:06:30,319 i don't know, quite gracious about it, being like, you know, 84 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:32,360 well hasn't harmed us. You know, we are the fucking We're one of 85 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:36,040 the biggest rock bands on the planet, enormous like arena band, stadium band, 86 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:40,199 whatever, and you know, our fans have stuck with us, and 87 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:46,240 people secretly love us. But I guess this finally puts the kind of the 88 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:48,800 the end to the question. Because Nickelback, they've got a new documentary out 89 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:51,439 that's called Hate to Love Nickelback. This is the funniest part of the fact 90 00:06:51,439 --> 00:06:56,800 they've got a documentary out they're promoting, which is titled after the Fact that 91 00:06:56,839 --> 00:07:00,920 people don't like them. But after this whole thing, I guess this is 92 00:07:00,959 --> 00:07:03,680 like the end of it for them, because Chad Kroger has now said that 93 00:07:03,720 --> 00:07:08,800 if in an interview, if anyone asks, oh, what's it like being 94 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:12,600 the band that everyone loves to hate. He's going to walk out and end 95 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:16,199 the interview right there. This is the end of the line for even entertaining 96 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:20,519 the question. Yeah, good, Like, more power to him on this 97 00:07:20,519 --> 00:07:25,040 one, because again I'm not necessarily saying that this means that they can't you 98 00:07:25,879 --> 00:07:29,079 be a bit jove about I would hand them. But I can totally understand 99 00:07:29,079 --> 00:07:31,319 that if you are asked that every time you step into an interview, yeah, 100 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:34,639 he's gonna get bored of it more than anything, Like, just ask 101 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:41,120 an actual relevant question to our band, to our music. I genuinely support 102 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:46,160 this move of bands saying you don't ask us stupid questions. Yeah, there's 103 00:07:46,199 --> 00:07:50,800 a difference between sort of having a laugh and being in on the joke and 104 00:07:51,319 --> 00:07:57,279 it being the main thing you have asked to you every single time you do 105 00:07:57,360 --> 00:08:01,639 an interview. Yeah, and again, and something like for something that is 106 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:09,680 so outdated, like it's such a fucking two thousand and nine opinions to the 107 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:13,639 point where if I hear someone go haha, nickel back bad, I just 108 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:16,399 immediately assume, Okay, you don't have any opinions of your own, then, 109 00:08:18,519 --> 00:08:22,920 like, surely there's much more interesting things to talk to Nickel back about 110 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:28,680 there's much more like worthy bands to be like ha ha bad about It'd be 111 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:31,639 a fascinating person to have a chat with, I reckon even just like outside 112 00:08:31,639 --> 00:08:33,799 of this, just talking about, you know, his career, what they've 113 00:08:33,799 --> 00:08:39,080 done over the years, what shit he's into that you might not expect talk 114 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:43,080 to him about. Fucking of all from man in It. Yeah, written 115 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:48,240 it again and again and again. But yeah, I guess I generally I 116 00:08:48,519 --> 00:08:52,360 agree with you, I mean fair and like it in terms of reclaiming the 117 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:56,679 narrative once and for all with this and kind of ending the question fair enough, 118 00:08:56,720 --> 00:08:58,120 I suppose if you kind of go into that asking them, I guess 119 00:08:58,120 --> 00:09:01,720 it's your own fault for being such a kind of boring towing the line. 120 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:05,519 It's being boring lazy journalist at that point and not actually, you know, 121 00:09:05,759 --> 00:09:11,960 trying to get an interesting story out of it. Yeah, and then the 122 00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:16,559 weird dark mirror image of this completely from the other end of the table. 123 00:09:16,759 --> 00:09:20,279 I mean, I'm presuming you know, Elliot's not here. Elliott is probably 124 00:09:20,279 --> 00:09:24,039 the only person I could have even remotely assumed has ever heard of this album 125 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:28,840 question. But I just thought it's very funny It's happened the same week as 126 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:35,279 Nickelback's outburst. Massacre, the nineteen eighties nineteen nineties cult death metal band. 127 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:37,559 We spoke about them a little bit in Our Death Special because they sort of 128 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:43,480 span off of like the kind of leprosy era and so on lineup, but 129 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:46,039 their their debut record from Beyond, is a bit of a cult death metal 130 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:50,360 classic. The second record, Promise, released in nineteen ninety six, is 131 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:58,840 fucking one of the most dreadful, like widely hated, Like obviously it's such 132 00:09:58,879 --> 00:10:03,120 a tiny album that you can't talk about it in the same way, but 133 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:07,799 in the circle that exists in we're talking some anger cold like elud divinam insanas 134 00:10:07,879 --> 00:10:13,720 like that, those all time like beaten with a stick, why a missteps. 135 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:18,080 They turned it like a weird very you know, super midnighties like groove 136 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:22,559 metal band, but it didn't suit them and whatever. Cam Lee, the 137 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:26,159 vocalist who quit the band right after the album because he hated it so much, 138 00:10:26,519 --> 00:10:31,039 has now said that if you this is an interview thing, this is 139 00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:33,200 like Nickelback, This is like if you are a fan and you come up 140 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:35,799 to us and talk to us about this. If you are at the merchants, 141 00:10:35,879 --> 00:10:39,559 and you even say that you like this album, They have said the 142 00:10:39,639 --> 00:10:43,840 quote is here is the boundary. Do not cross it. We don't endorse 143 00:10:43,879 --> 00:10:48,200 this album in any way. If you're a fan of this release for whatever 144 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:52,080 reason, although I can't imagine anyone with taste would actually be best, keep 145 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:56,320 that to yourself. Any posturing is an attempt to bring this album up will 146 00:10:56,320 --> 00:11:00,759 be met with the same disrespect given by pushing that boundary. If you attempt 147 00:11:00,759 --> 00:11:05,679 passive aggressive behavior by sarcastically supporting it, you will be, in turn be 148 00:11:05,799 --> 00:11:09,879 met with the same sarcastic response and tone you're trying to put your bands over. 149 00:11:09,960 --> 00:11:13,960 Basically, don't be a prick. The fact that they have gone if 150 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:16,919 you even tell us you like this album that we made, we will assume 151 00:11:16,919 --> 00:11:22,440 you are being passive aggressive is so funny. As my favorite part is it 152 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:28,399 yet that they genuinely don't believe that anyone if someone said the album, they 153 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:31,279 think you're taking the pit genuinely like again, I'm the Homest album. But 154 00:11:31,799 --> 00:11:37,440 the reputation is at a point where the band cannot possibly believe that anyone would 155 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:41,440 ever be clearly positive about it. Is that's incredible. I like kind of 156 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:43,320 listen to this album just to kind of like, yeah, see how much 157 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:48,320 a band could hate their own word that much. I've never heard of this 158 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:52,080 band at all, but it makes me want to hear the album more than 159 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:54,039 their classic album. No. I mean it's it's not that interesting to listen, 160 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:58,440 you know, it's just like nineties death metal band does a bad groove 161 00:11:58,440 --> 00:12:01,600 metal record. But just what is it like? The approaching thirty years after 162 00:12:01,639 --> 00:12:05,919 fact over twenty five years and I'll go in Please do not ever ever mentioned 163 00:12:05,960 --> 00:12:11,159 this? You are taking the piss incredible cam Lee and Chad Crow where she 164 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:13,440 get together in a bar somewhere, put have a drink and talk about you 165 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:18,480 know, their their their respective bugbears and lines that you do not cross. 166 00:12:18,679 --> 00:12:22,960 New music for this week the charge is being led by While She Sleeps, 167 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:28,200 who have announced their new album. It's called Self Hell the album is coming 168 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:31,919 out. Is this actually the first like big twenty twenty four release that we've 169 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:35,720 got confirmedbably? Yeah, it feels like I mean far away. Yeah, 170 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:41,759 they've announced that the record is coming in March the fifteenth. So yeah, 171 00:12:41,799 --> 00:12:46,000 So in an era where we've had I guess increasingly short kind of announcement, 172 00:12:46,159 --> 00:12:50,840 you know, for albums and then turning up six months so long fucking time. 173 00:12:50,879 --> 00:12:54,159 I'm not sure exactly what the thinking is there, why they've been led 174 00:12:54,159 --> 00:12:56,480 to do that, but you know, big release on the calendar for twenty 175 00:12:56,480 --> 00:13:01,440 twenty four. Now we are getting into that time of help. The title 176 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:03,360 track from it has been released. I want to let you guys know, 177 00:13:03,679 --> 00:13:07,799 I did not listen to the song until ten minutes before we've just recorded, 178 00:13:09,039 --> 00:13:13,399 because it came out yesterday. As we've been as we're recording this, and 179 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:16,240 the only thing I saw I like, again, it was one of those 180 00:13:16,279 --> 00:13:22,120 things where a song gets released and repeated posts like right like in the TNM 181 00:13:22,639 --> 00:13:26,759 Facebook group, in the discord, just people on Twitter or whatever, repeated 182 00:13:26,799 --> 00:13:30,279 post time talking and I'm like, oh my god, isn't the new Wild 183 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:33,960 she Sleeps song terrible? And just whole discussions there, and I thought, 184 00:13:33,639 --> 00:13:37,600 I'm just gonna wait until we have to talk about on the show, like 185 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:43,440 immediate before to actually listen to it. But the the the again that that 186 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:46,960 that flood of like oh my god, isn't this something to kind of bash? 187 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:50,519 I always find quite like, Okay, where are we going with this? 188 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:52,879 What's your sort of your your thoughts on you know this as it developed 189 00:13:52,879 --> 00:13:58,919 since since yesterday. I mean, I am like, I have a while 190 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:01,679 she Seeps Tattoo there one of my favorite bands, So I'm gonna I'm gonna 191 00:14:01,679 --> 00:14:09,039 feel quite strongly about the moves they make. I've been gradually less keen on 192 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:13,519 like stuffought Sleep Society was a step up from So What. I think there 193 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:16,679 was some amazing stuff on the album, but I don't you know, it's 194 00:14:16,679 --> 00:14:20,519 still a cry away from Brainwashed, which if you've listened to this pocophile you'll 195 00:14:20,519 --> 00:14:22,960 know was in my top twenty of all time. I think the album is 196 00:14:24,039 --> 00:14:28,440 one of the best Metalcorps releases ever. So I'm always like mixed with excitement 197 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:31,039 and nerves when I hit play on a new Wild She Sleeps song, Because 198 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:35,799 they're clear band. Who aren't you know, looking to just be a medical 199 00:14:35,879 --> 00:14:37,679 band anymore. They want to stretch out they have done for a while now, 200 00:14:39,639 --> 00:14:41,320 and I kind of expect that from them. But when I hit play 201 00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:48,240 on this and was greeted by Laws doing his Fred Durst impersonation, I was 202 00:14:48,519 --> 00:14:54,159 like, uh no, I mean, as for the sort tunnel of hating 203 00:14:54,200 --> 00:14:56,559 it. There were two reactions I saw, which was either the Hayes you 204 00:14:56,679 --> 00:15:00,919 saw or people be like, oh, the new she Sleeps song is a 205 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:03,080 bit divisive, isn't it always going to split fans right down the middle? 206 00:15:03,279 --> 00:15:07,480 Yeah? Is this? Is this your subtle way of saying it's device is 207 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:11,960 another soul way of saying it's shit, because, like I did anyone actually 208 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:16,799 say it's good and like they were people trying to talk around it'd be bad. 209 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:22,720 But yeah, this is I would say, outside of that fucking five 210 00:15:22,759 --> 00:15:26,480 minute arts machine thing on the last album, this is the worst thing Wild 211 00:15:26,519 --> 00:15:33,240 Sheeps have ever done. Oh this is a fucking stinker. I on my 212 00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:37,039 first listen, I thought, oh, that's not very good, is it? 213 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:43,639 But I've listened to it a couple more times in the fucking it doesn't 214 00:15:43,639 --> 00:15:46,279 grow on me. It's the fucking opposite. It deteriorates on me. I 215 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:52,080 think it is really really bad. The production on it is so I don't 216 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:58,240 really understand what they're going for production wise, like what sort of sound they're 217 00:15:58,240 --> 00:16:03,960 trying to go for. It just sounds pretty amateur and the chorus is like 218 00:16:06,279 --> 00:16:10,559 embarrassing. I so again, like I said, I've literally just heard this 219 00:16:10,639 --> 00:16:14,159 right, and I wasn't entirely sure. I saw limp biscuit thrown around a 220 00:16:14,159 --> 00:16:17,360 lot, right, and the riff I think I can see that, you 221 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:18,399 know, it's it's a bit biscuit. I don't think the riff is bad, 222 00:16:19,480 --> 00:16:22,600 it's fine, but the product riff a not very good. Yeah, 223 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:30,720 I don't even mind the production. I think the the big standout element that 224 00:16:30,759 --> 00:16:37,399 I think is overriding any ability to kind of I don't know, even dissect 225 00:16:37,480 --> 00:16:41,879 or appreciate anything else or whatever, is the vocal approach, and specifically the 226 00:16:41,919 --> 00:16:48,120 main vocal hook almost from It's not as like you know, produced to be 227 00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:49,799 like fully ebraceway it, but almost in the way like Guiney by the excerpts, 228 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:55,159 it was like, you can't, I can't do anything with this because 229 00:16:55,159 --> 00:17:00,320 I just can't stand that him and the chorus in this is so out of 230 00:17:00,399 --> 00:17:06,839 character for while she sleeps in such a bizarre way, throwing my ears around 231 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:11,559 to the rest of the mix. I'm probably the least overall negative in terms 232 00:17:11,599 --> 00:17:15,559 of the construction of this. Like again, the riff is not bad, 233 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:19,559 there's a weird amount going on in it, like the the there's these really 234 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:25,440 quick little like almost like drum and basic drum, kind of great beeat parts 235 00:17:25,839 --> 00:17:27,079 and that in the other songs, but yeah, here they're just gonna feel 236 00:17:27,079 --> 00:17:33,599 really like sporadically thrown in without and then enduring underneath the chorus as well, 237 00:17:33,599 --> 00:17:34,920 when I completely understand just hearing the vocal and being like, oh my god. 238 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:38,960 But under the chorus you've got those like trademark while she sleep leads but 239 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:41,759 almost going like a more like I don't know, like a fucking funk thing 240 00:17:41,839 --> 00:17:45,920 or whatever, Like they's flaring up all over the place under that chorus. 241 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:48,880 And so there are things in this where I go that could work, that 242 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:52,799 could work, that could work, but I think it's you just don't quite 243 00:17:52,839 --> 00:17:57,119 get over how odd a fit it all is for this, like the main 244 00:17:57,319 --> 00:18:00,079 drive of it and the main hook of it like is to sell you on 245 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:03,319 even like the way you get to the last breakdown and there's that kind of 246 00:18:03,319 --> 00:18:07,680 like Electroy part that was you know, it's like the stuff that they were 247 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:11,920 doing on something like Sleep Society. But Laws is talking over again. I 248 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:15,599 wish I could set myself apart from other lyricists. What the fuck, I 249 00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:18,480 don't care, I don't give a fuck. It's like what are you doing? 250 00:18:18,039 --> 00:18:26,920 How it's so I find while she sleeps now considering I generally like them, 251 00:18:26,960 --> 00:18:30,799 like Sleep Society was a damn good record, So what was a I 252 00:18:30,799 --> 00:18:33,200 think, don't think a terrible record. I think it was a decent one 253 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:36,680 that just had some weird ideas that needed to be kind of melded out. 254 00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:42,000 But I do find them so bizarrely hodgepodge these days. And this is like 255 00:18:42,039 --> 00:18:47,799 the most extreme that has ever been taken. I mean, because you took 256 00:18:47,839 --> 00:18:49,759 mekes of those guitar leads and I was like, oh that those but they're 257 00:18:49,799 --> 00:18:52,640 so they felt so buried. And when I think back to while she was 258 00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:57,960 like those leads, I think to Seven Hills or Our Legacy and stuff like 259 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:02,519 that. Well, like they're so pronounce and so they stand so much, 260 00:19:02,519 --> 00:19:04,680 and here when they just kind of like it's just sound a bit like piddly 261 00:19:04,839 --> 00:19:10,000 versions. I haven't got the power that they normally have, and everything about 262 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:12,359 it just feels like a muted version. Or I just said, even when 263 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:17,480 law starts screaming on those breaks on the verse, it feels so like, 264 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:19,839 oh, I'm a I'm having a tantrum. I'm a kid getting a bit 265 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:23,039 angry. I was just like, I don't buy it. It doesn't feel 266 00:19:23,599 --> 00:19:27,880 real or sincere at any point to me. And yeah, it just like 267 00:19:29,599 --> 00:19:30,559 I don't want to be like, well, you know, it doesn't sound 268 00:19:30,559 --> 00:19:34,799 like brainwash. So it's bad because I don't think that I have to sound 269 00:19:34,839 --> 00:19:38,039 like brainwash, even if it's their best album. But this again just feels 270 00:19:38,079 --> 00:19:42,880 like a weird mix of ideas that aren't jelling together, that the vocal and 271 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:48,160 lyrics are really distracting from everything else, and it just it feels just a 272 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:53,559 weird misstep that doesn't have any identity. I mean, we were discussing a 273 00:19:53,559 --> 00:19:59,519 little bit in the discorse with the TNN patrons, how I don't know, 274 00:19:59,559 --> 00:20:03,799 again, for such a kind of beloved band like you know by us, 275 00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:10,440 like the long time, you know you came out all favorites here, they 276 00:20:11,039 --> 00:20:15,480 have a very very awkward sensibility in terms of just like what what they think 277 00:20:15,559 --> 00:20:18,960 is cool? Right, and like what the the the the while she sleeps 278 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:22,759 kind of ascetic and the sort of that there the way that they're kind of 279 00:20:22,759 --> 00:20:29,599 their their embodiment of just like being a band kind of is it's a little 280 00:20:29,599 --> 00:20:32,839 bit you, and it's become more so you and Sam you said it's a 281 00:20:32,839 --> 00:20:36,279 bit you're kind of it's become quite steep, ascending with a skateboard. It 282 00:20:36,319 --> 00:20:38,599 feels like at this point is where it's become that. Yeah, and again 283 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:41,440 I hear this song and I don't think every element in it is bad. 284 00:20:41,519 --> 00:20:44,880 I think there are you know, solid ideas in it. And I can 285 00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:49,319 certainly imagine this is going to be even more than the last two records, 286 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:56,480 the perhaps the most experimental While She Sleeps record today. And again I don't 287 00:20:56,559 --> 00:21:00,079 necessarily discourage that, and I hope that there are things in that, but 288 00:21:00,839 --> 00:21:07,240 considering what we've just said, I do wonder whether this might be a record. 289 00:21:07,279 --> 00:21:10,079 I mean, again you look at that the again, the the lyrical 290 00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:12,039 approach or the just general assetic approach of what they're going for in this in 291 00:21:12,039 --> 00:21:15,680 this song and video and so on. I wonder if it will be their 292 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:21,759 most kind of steeper set me with the skateboard record to date, it's a 293 00:21:21,799 --> 00:21:25,079 shame like like you say, they do have the it does have the while 294 00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:30,240 She Sleeps elements, but you listen to previous records, those guitar lines they 295 00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:36,119 saw, they shine, they have like real propulsion, and they like fly 296 00:21:36,279 --> 00:21:42,559 across the tracks. This sounds buried and round out like, and the song 297 00:21:42,599 --> 00:21:48,480 could have done anything, but all you can think about after it's done is 298 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:51,359 me, me, me, Me, Me, me me Me. Yeah, 299 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:52,640 I think that's that's the main thing. I don't I don't necessarily even 300 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:55,759 have the huge role in production that you guys do, But I just think 301 00:21:55,799 --> 00:21:57,319 that the hook, the thing that it keeps coming around to. It's such 302 00:21:57,319 --> 00:22:00,599 a weird hodgepod of things, and every time it's sort of centers on something, 303 00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:06,119 it's it's the worst idea in the song. So I guess we'll see 304 00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:08,640 if there is, you know, if there is better stuff than that on 305 00:22:10,079 --> 00:22:14,480 While She sleeps Self Hell record coming in early twenty twenty four. Elsewhere, 306 00:22:14,519 --> 00:22:17,960 Fueling Mouth a back, which I think is very good news because Fuming Mouth 307 00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:22,880 we're a pretty promising sort of death metal, cume hardcore band who emerged in 308 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:26,920 the latter part of the twenty tens. But unfortunately I had gone a little 309 00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:30,599 bit of a break because their guitarist Mark Wheeland went through a bit of a 310 00:22:30,599 --> 00:22:33,839 cancer bout. But it was declared cancer free in twenty twenty two and they 311 00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:37,279 are now back with a new record. It's called Last Day of Sun. 312 00:22:37,319 --> 00:22:40,759 It's out of November the third, and I was actually quite struck by the 313 00:22:40,839 --> 00:22:42,359 single from this it's called The Silence Beyond Life, And like I said, 314 00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:47,759 there were sort of a you know, Swedish death metally come you know, 315 00:22:47,839 --> 00:22:51,799 American krusty hardcore whatever blender things, the kind that we sort of you know, 316 00:22:51,839 --> 00:22:55,480 we've seen that at various points before. But this song sounds like an 317 00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:57,920 almost like a kind of Swedish death doom song, Like it's got a really 318 00:22:59,039 --> 00:23:03,240 kind of me had paced melodic angle to it and full on like melodic, 319 00:23:03,279 --> 00:23:07,759 clean vocal hook. I think it almost feels that I'm kind of seeing that 320 00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:12,519 death metal krusty hark thing is. You know, it's quite a bustling scene, 321 00:23:12,519 --> 00:23:15,640 so try to kind of carve out a bit of a new niche and 322 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:21,480 try something different. Yeah, I like it themselves from like falling sort of 323 00:23:21,559 --> 00:23:22,799 into the sort of the pack. But yeah, I think this is cool. 324 00:23:22,839 --> 00:23:26,519 I'm only giving it the one listen and I was like, Okay, 325 00:23:26,519 --> 00:23:30,240 cool, that's called me by surprise, but yeah, excited about the return 326 00:23:30,279 --> 00:23:33,440 of them and if they're gonna you know, continue to try new things like 327 00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:37,519 this down for it, I didn't get a chance to listen to this, 328 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:40,599 but I remember them from back in the day and thinking they were pretty cool. 329 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:45,599 So that's really exciting that they're back. Yes, Also very very exciting, 330 00:23:45,599 --> 00:23:48,960 indeed, is the fact that Two Molds, I think on Monday, 331 00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:53,720 so about four days ago, announced their new album, which I've been wondering 332 00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:56,240 where it was going to be for fucking ages. Their new album it's called 333 00:23:56,240 --> 00:24:00,119 The Enduring Spirit, and it's in fact out today as this podcast goes out. 334 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:03,559 They're just dropping it on Friday, the fucking week they announced it. 335 00:24:03,559 --> 00:24:07,400 When I say I've been wondering this album was Two Mold, you know in 336 00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:08,200 the latter part of the twenty ten they at least now I'm like, every 337 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:11,880 single year, and the way they used to do it as well, as 338 00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:17,279 they used to put out like a band camp demo of like a couple of 339 00:24:17,279 --> 00:24:21,519 songs in you know, a sort of a more primal death metaly form, 340 00:24:21,559 --> 00:24:23,240 and then like you know, within a few months they'd turn up on a 341 00:24:23,279 --> 00:24:27,359 new album in the full production format, and Two Mold, after going away 342 00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:30,680 for a couple of years, released one of those demos. I think maybe 343 00:24:30,839 --> 00:24:33,799 last year, like back in twenty twenty two, so I was like, 344 00:24:33,799 --> 00:24:37,160 where the heck is this is this new album? And then to just suddenly 345 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:38,559 be like, oh my god, here it is, and those songs aren't 346 00:24:38,599 --> 00:24:44,200 even on it. It's just an all new set of stuff. Considering we've 347 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:48,480 already got the semi surprise Blooding Cantation mini album coming out this week as well. 348 00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:53,039 Unbelievable day for a Friday, Yeah, unbelievable for cosmic death metalers. 349 00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:56,960 The Mold Boys are back. That is absolutely going to be something I'm gonna 350 00:24:56,920 --> 00:25:00,559 be spinning this week. Very very excited to see that. Elsewhere, We've 351 00:25:00,559 --> 00:25:03,519 also got more death metal on the news. Suffocation have announced their first album 352 00:25:03,599 --> 00:25:07,079 without their legendary lead singer at Frank Mullen, who was kind of retired from 353 00:25:07,079 --> 00:25:11,799 the band in recent years. Ricky Myers, who has been their live vocalist 354 00:25:11,799 --> 00:25:14,920 for a long time now, is now recording on them as well, and 355 00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:17,759 they've got this new record out. It's also out on November the third. 356 00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:21,119 The single from it just sounds fucking brutal, and I thought, yeah, 357 00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:25,200 this sounds like it sounds like it's very much continuing, you know, without 358 00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:29,160 Frank, but in the Suffocation guys that you would want so very cool stuff 359 00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:32,599 in the world of death metal. Last week we were I mean, it 360 00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:34,119 felt like it was a pretty much invitability when they're posting like that, but 361 00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:37,640 we're wondering a Three Inches of Blood like they're about to come back, And 362 00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:41,880 we did get the confirmation that Three Inches of Blood are going to be playing 363 00:25:41,039 --> 00:25:48,559 comeback shows in Vancouver in early twenty twenty four. The first show sold out, 364 00:25:48,599 --> 00:25:51,960 so I believe that they've added a second show. This is January the 365 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:53,960 thirteenth, and I've probably the fourteenth as well. And they also announced the 366 00:25:55,079 --> 00:25:57,160 unto Others are going to be the support out for those shows because Gabe Franco 367 00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:02,759 was a big Three Inches of Bloo fan back in the day. Absolutely cool 368 00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:06,680 stuff there. If you are in Vancouver for that, have a lovely heavy 369 00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:10,960 metal couple of days. Hopefully we'll see if this goes any further than that. 370 00:26:11,319 --> 00:26:15,839 This is interesting. Just today it has been announced that Ford I Guess 371 00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:19,759 to celebrate Maynard James Keenan's sixtieth birthday, imagine to just be able to go, 372 00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:23,440 Yeah, I'll do that from a sixtieth. Pussy Fur, A Perfect 373 00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:30,400 Circle and Primus are going to be doing a tour together. During which there's 374 00:26:30,519 --> 00:26:34,000 not going to be any change over between the bands in terms of sets, 375 00:26:34,039 --> 00:26:38,880 stopping and so on, but rather a continuous sort of revolving door wherein the 376 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:44,680 first band will be then joined on stage by the second band, who will 377 00:26:44,839 --> 00:26:47,599 then play together for a little bit, and then the first band will leave 378 00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:52,680 and so on. So you're going to have a ever sort of morphin continuous 379 00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:56,920 puss a fur perfect circle Primus show, which just Primus alone makes that a 380 00:26:57,000 --> 00:27:02,440 fucking weird, weird idea. But man, I have no idea what the 381 00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:04,599 hell that's gonna look like. I mean, I only liked one of those 382 00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:07,000 bands, but there's they show it as a free band. Who I'm a 383 00:27:07,319 --> 00:27:11,319 fan of one of those bands? Yeah? Like who could put like they're 384 00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:15,119 quite you know, experimental avant garde bands as it's so they can I feel 385 00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:18,960 like they every bands who can sync up and do something quite cool with that. 386 00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:22,559 So that's that's I like, Yeah, so it's a cool idea. 387 00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:26,799 No one else would do this, no one else would even have the idea. 388 00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:30,680 You know, I'm not really a fan of any of the bands really, 389 00:27:30,839 --> 00:27:34,359 but on paper, I think I think it's really cool. I wouldn't 390 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:38,839 mind it feels like more of a I show. You just sort of very 391 00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:45,640 bat Yeah, watch as a as I show, you know, I think 392 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:48,640 it would be a laugh. I have no fucking idea how they'll do it. 393 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:52,839 Yeah, I'm a getting I'm very curious just to watch footage or whatever 394 00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:56,960 to see sort of like you know, the middle parts of each band sort 395 00:27:56,960 --> 00:28:00,720 of crossover a bit where you've got two of those you know on stage at 396 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:06,160 anytime. Fascinating idea. And Mary on Across this week has been certified as 397 00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:12,200 Ghosts first platinum certified single in the US, which you know, platinum and 398 00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:15,279 so on. It's a hard lot harder to quantify these days, and it 399 00:28:15,319 --> 00:28:18,400 was back when he were just buying singles, but that is of course a 400 00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:22,839 big old stat for one of the current leading lights of you know, rock 401 00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:29,400 and metal in the mainstream. Questions come from the Atomital focus group on Facebook, 402 00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:32,880 where you can go on and ask for these. They are back for 403 00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:36,640 this week and Peter hen is going to kick us off saying, my partner 404 00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:40,079 and I lost our beloved cat BlackBerry last week. She was about sixteen years 405 00:28:40,119 --> 00:28:41,559 old and we've had her for eleven years and we missed her very much. 406 00:28:41,759 --> 00:28:45,799 What is the best song from our world about a pet? Peter, I'm 407 00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:48,720 very very sorry to hear this, and I'm I know for a fact that 408 00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:52,400 you will be a very you know, in agreement when I say sleep in 409 00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:56,680 the Heat by Putt. Yeah, I don't think it's my number one, 410 00:28:56,680 --> 00:29:00,200 but it's the very first one that comes to mind when I think about, 411 00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:02,960 you know, a loss of a pet songs. I mean the fact that 412 00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:07,319 it's a chameleon as well, it's such a specific odd animal, but it's 413 00:29:07,359 --> 00:29:11,599 it's so I don't know, it's so endearing that song. It's that that 414 00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:14,839 that that was just me my again, I felt like again because it's about 415 00:29:14,839 --> 00:29:17,519 the Oscar pet. So the way it's kind of helps processing. But when 416 00:29:17,519 --> 00:29:19,400 I think of like Sleeping Heat and that seeing it live whenever it gets that 417 00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:22,920 woe part and what I'm moment in the set, it is, it's one 418 00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:29,559 of it probably be my favorite pop song. So like like that is We're 419 00:29:29,599 --> 00:29:33,599 gonna be my shout for a song about a pet lord than Atlantis have a 420 00:29:34,359 --> 00:29:41,079 Is it called Emily? Oh yeah? Actually actually a death of Anna Mildred. 421 00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:45,039 Uh. There might be about losing a cat or losing a dog, 422 00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:49,359 but so that's that's actually a great song. It's one of the best amazing. 423 00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:53,400 Yeah, that's the best half of Vanna song. I wouldn't recommend this 424 00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:57,319 as like, you know, if you've just lost a pet. But there's 425 00:29:57,359 --> 00:30:03,319 that ball in for Soup song that's card My Weener. That's was like, 426 00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:08,319 Oh, I'm a carving birt my dog, Willie. I completely forgot that 427 00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:12,480 was a pet song. Yeah, I'm a carving birt my dog crying or 428 00:30:12,519 --> 00:30:21,559 am I coming? God? That one's quite a thinker. Wipe them from 429 00:30:21,559 --> 00:30:25,079 the planet. Honestly, there was that that That Catterpart's album we reviewed last 430 00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:27,960 year was like that yeah, which again was about his cat dying, So 431 00:30:29,519 --> 00:30:33,079 that that came to mind because it's specifically cat related. I feels like there's 432 00:30:33,079 --> 00:30:37,799 like dogs obviously the most sort of a common theme of rock related songs. 433 00:30:37,799 --> 00:30:41,839 You know, man's best friend and so on, and you know, I'll 434 00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:44,519 bring us back to the heavy if you're going for Death of Varna and fucking 435 00:30:44,519 --> 00:30:48,519 Bowling for Soup, the couple that really stand out to me as being like 436 00:30:48,559 --> 00:30:52,880 genuinely amazing songs. I didn't even I'd forgotten this detail, but when I 437 00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:55,480 was like looking at things earlier. All We Love We Leave Behind, the 438 00:30:55,480 --> 00:31:00,839 title track from the Converge album is about Jake Bannon losing his dogs and that 439 00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:04,519 I think that probably would be like the best song that we're talking about here. 440 00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:10,279 That's like one of the very best songs on that record. And then 441 00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:15,039 another one is another amazing song that is would probably be the most depressing example, 442 00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:18,400 So maybe don't listen to this if you're looking to cheer yourself up. 443 00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:22,160 But the title track of Type of Negatives, Bloody Kisses, which is the 444 00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:26,839 Bloody Kisses a death in the family song was inspired by the loss of Peter 445 00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:30,359 Steele's cat, and he kind of he turned it into a large, more 446 00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:33,160 more metaphorical thing, and there's a lot of lyrics in there that you know, 447 00:31:33,359 --> 00:31:37,200 seemed to be more about you know, a woman or whatever than that 448 00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:40,880 than a cat with the bloody kisses and so on, which I think was 449 00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:42,920 an intentional thing to kind of make it not just about a pet. But 450 00:31:44,799 --> 00:31:48,440 it's that's a that's like the dirtiest song on that record, Like that's just 451 00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:52,519 like the ten minute doom song of just like oh I've I've lost something, 452 00:31:52,599 --> 00:31:56,960 I've lost someone, And that's a really that's a stark little song, and 453 00:31:56,960 --> 00:32:00,839 then also not a song, but just a nice little nod. I guess 454 00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:05,680 that always comes to mind is the Spirit Adrift album Enlightened in Eternity, which 455 00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:08,480 is the one before the one we've just reviewed. The artwork has like a 456 00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:12,200 bunch of it's of like a big fantasy painting with like, you know, 457 00:32:12,279 --> 00:32:15,799 guys on horses riding into battle this kind of thing, but riding alongside them 458 00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:17,279 is there's like a maybe like a black labrador or something. There's a there's 459 00:32:17,279 --> 00:32:22,160 a dog, and that dog, I believe I'm right in saying is like 460 00:32:22,279 --> 00:32:25,359 a direct likeness of Nate the singer's dog, which which had died during the 461 00:32:25,359 --> 00:32:29,799 creation of the album, and it's forever memorialized in this like epic heavy metal 462 00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:34,079 fantasy painting riding alongside you these you know, kind of valiant warriors. And 463 00:32:34,079 --> 00:32:37,799 I think that's a very cool and lovely example of something that's been done there. 464 00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:44,960 Graham pest Preston ars, have you ever witnessed a catastrophic stage show failure 465 00:32:45,079 --> 00:32:47,680 or maybe a spinal tap stonehenge moment? I was reading about that this week 466 00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:52,480 because it's it's the fourtieth anniversary of Black Sabbaths Born Again album this week, 467 00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:59,279 which I really want to do that like Lost Years Black Sabbath Special, because 468 00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:04,200 the Born End cycle alone seems to be like inside a Year or whatever, 469 00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:07,079 all of the craziest, daftest rock and roll stories a band could do. 470 00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:10,880 Where the Stonehenge spinal tapp thing is directly inspired from something that happened during the 471 00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:15,680 Ian Gillan era Black Sabbath run. But in terms of things that we personally 472 00:33:15,759 --> 00:33:22,039 have witnessed, what is the I guess the biggest stage show gaff that you've 473 00:33:22,039 --> 00:33:27,720 ever ever seen? I mean I've not seen many that I remember Trivium when 474 00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:34,200 they were playing on the co headline tour with Kill Switching Gage No Pols should 475 00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:37,920 over won the show two things and he just basically like completely took him out 476 00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:40,599 when it went off, like like James Hetfield style. Yeah, yeah, 477 00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:45,359 like blasting, He went flying backwards with it. That was pretty funny. 478 00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:49,359 And there's no one saw obviously and not necessarily stage of gaff. But I 479 00:33:49,359 --> 00:33:51,960 do actually have to bring up a video that's been going on Twitter just because 480 00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:53,440 this question did make me think about it, which was I kind of think 481 00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:57,000 what metalcore band is. But it's been going on in the last couple of 482 00:33:57,119 --> 00:34:02,640 days of a metalcore band, Huge one. That's it, and and and 483 00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:07,480 and just everyone just not moving when the thing drops, and it's just like 484 00:34:06,559 --> 00:34:10,719 like all those hilarious gonna bad. I've seen that happen for Shove Ups, 485 00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:15,159 who I believe was supporting Tribune at the time. But I've seen that exact 486 00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:19,880 thing happened where the wall did not did not and I've never seen something exactly 487 00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:22,599 like that, but just that kind of always counter like for metical bands, 488 00:34:22,639 --> 00:34:23,840 that's almost supposed to going to get to a stage show. So when they 489 00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:28,719 do that and it just no one moves, I'm like, oh, that 490 00:34:29,159 --> 00:34:31,079 is as bad as your stage show going. That is like as spinal tap 491 00:34:31,119 --> 00:34:37,679 as it gets from metalcore, isn't it. That's painful. I I was 492 00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:42,000 racking my brain the only one I could think of it. You know, 493 00:34:42,079 --> 00:34:45,440 it's not very cool. But I saw the very first Micbusted show when they 494 00:34:45,519 --> 00:34:52,119 did mcwin Busted to join Enforces, and clearly they hadn't like figured the entire 495 00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:55,320 stage show out yet because it was the first show, but they had like, 496 00:34:55,639 --> 00:34:59,599 maybe this will be the the puss of a perfect circle. Primus Debarkle, 497 00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:06,519 Oh my god, two right mate, this should play a year three 498 00:35:06,519 --> 00:35:10,119 throesand as well. Yeah busted. They had like flames and stuff that didn't 499 00:35:10,159 --> 00:35:14,519 go off, and there was like set pieces like where they were supposed to 500 00:35:14,519 --> 00:35:16,280 fall off the stage or whatever, and it just wasn't working and it was 501 00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:22,360 a bit awkward. It wasn't as cool as you know, fucking Born Again 502 00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:25,559 ever in Black Sabbath. Yeah, my two examples that spring to mind. 503 00:35:25,599 --> 00:35:30,000 One isn't a stage show thing, but it certainly affected what was going on 504 00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:36,400 on the stage. Quite infamous. Now Mayhem at Damnation twenty nineteen. Again, 505 00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:37,239 this is one of the sort of word of mouth rumor things, So 506 00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:39,960 I don't know exactly if this is true or not, but the word is 507 00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:45,079 that they had brought along their own sort of like sound desk, so rather 508 00:35:45,159 --> 00:35:46,440 using the in house sound desk all the other bands on the main stage we 509 00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:50,039 using, they had their kind of their own thing going on, and it 510 00:35:50,079 --> 00:35:52,559 wasn't set up properly. I don't know what was going on, it was 511 00:35:52,599 --> 00:35:55,679 their Their set just kept grinding to a halt because the sound rig just kept 512 00:35:55,960 --> 00:36:04,880 collapsing basically and burned into my brain. A shirtless Necro Butcher, the mental 513 00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:12,239 bassist of Mayhem, absolutely fucking, fuming, livid, storming. He's quite 514 00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:16,880 a small man, storming across the stage, throwing cans of beer from one 515 00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:21,400 end of the stage down, you know, to the other because their fucking 516 00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:23,000 rig was collapsing. I've seen Mayhem since and they were great. That was 517 00:36:23,039 --> 00:36:27,920 just really a one time, fucking mess of a thing that happened in terms 518 00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:30,480 of a stage show. Again, this isn't a catastrophe, but it's a 519 00:36:30,559 --> 00:36:34,880 very very recent memory of mine. If you've listened to the Bloodstock review that 520 00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:40,039 I did not too long ago, Kk's priest filling in for Helloween's you know, 521 00:36:40,159 --> 00:36:45,800 canceled slot and bringing along their like stage screen thing, which was one 522 00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:50,639 of the napest things I've ever seen, but particularly the aspect ratio and the 523 00:36:50,679 --> 00:36:54,039 way that the video didn't seem like it had been lined up to the size 524 00:36:54,039 --> 00:36:58,599 of the screen that the festival was going to be using, and just like 525 00:36:58,639 --> 00:37:01,960 the fact that they like just the image of like a big truck going down 526 00:37:02,039 --> 00:37:07,400 a desert glitching in and out of place on the frame because it wasn't the 527 00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:10,960 right size. It's just one of the most like it's like banal spinal tap. 528 00:37:12,079 --> 00:37:14,800 You know, it's it's like it's nowhere near that level of ludacrousnas. 529 00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:19,239 It's just like it's so fucking you know, such a banal level of like, 530 00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:22,320 oh, this is just something NAF going wrong. I guess at festivals 531 00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:23,800 is when you imagine more things do go wrong, because I feel like in 532 00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:29,000 their own shows, most you know, Cruise or whatever a pretty professional at 533 00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:34,320 this stage in the game. Caroline Marie asks drummers as lead vocalists, when 534 00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:37,000 does it vert work and when doesn't it? Brutus has an awesome lead slash 535 00:37:37,039 --> 00:37:39,679 drummer, but I'm not sure it'd work if she stepped out as just lead. 536 00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:43,679 Code Orange worked really well with Jamie behind the kit and works even better 537 00:37:43,679 --> 00:37:45,360 now as a front man. Are their bands where a leads slash drummer didn't 538 00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:50,039 work once they became lead only? This is quite a large question, I 539 00:37:50,079 --> 00:37:52,760 guess. The only way I could answer it's just condense it down to like, 540 00:37:54,000 --> 00:38:00,199 can you imagine I guess drummer vocalists at the moment for whom them stepping 541 00:38:00,199 --> 00:38:04,199 out behind the kit would be either a good or bad scenario. Because I 542 00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:07,199 gen I couldn't think of one whereas likes that's happened, you know and gone 543 00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:13,159 wrong. Maybe Ringo Star trying to have a pop career is like the most 544 00:38:13,199 --> 00:38:15,960 ill fitting that you could imagine. But like, there are a lot of 545 00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:19,159 great druma vocalists right particularly, I guess an extreme metal and underground circles. 546 00:38:19,159 --> 00:38:22,079 There are like lows, you know, Chris Rifer from Autopsy, I don't 547 00:38:22,119 --> 00:38:24,320 want to see him get out from behind the kit. His like manic presence 548 00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:28,039 behind it is a big part of it. I just saw Anti Christ Sis 549 00:38:28,079 --> 00:38:31,039 Machine recently, who have a druma vocalists and the same there brand Dayla from 550 00:38:31,039 --> 00:38:35,440 Mastered on. I feel like that'd be a bit weird. I don't know 551 00:38:35,519 --> 00:38:38,360 if he was just frontman, yeah, I was gonna say, I mean, 552 00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:42,400 because mass On this is the multi vocals exactly. But even just like 553 00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:45,239 the only thing I can guess is I would love to see him fronting a 554 00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:49,639 Judas Priest cover band, because there was an amazing video of a two Minutes 555 00:38:49,679 --> 00:38:52,159 to Late Night cover of them doing like screaming for Vengeance or something, and 556 00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:58,000 he wore the full get up right, like the full leather, the cap, 557 00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:01,320 everything, and he can fucking kill it, but brand Dayler just dressed 558 00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:07,599 as he normally is. Somehow that doesn't seem so fitting. Yeah. I 559 00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:09,400 couldn't imagine him like stepping up one again. I mean, I can't think 560 00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:13,320 of anywhere I'm like, the only one I would say it has been said, 561 00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:16,960 it's codeins just I think they are genuinely a better band with Jamie at 562 00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:21,039 the front of the stage otherwise, Yeah, there's normal. What I'm like, 563 00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:23,360 Oh, I think they should step out from behind the kit and they 564 00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:28,400 would. That would drastically improve the live show. Yeah, I can't think 565 00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:30,519 of that. The only thing my brain has given me is a tray you. 566 00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:35,760 I was like, would that make a tray you better? Though, 567 00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:42,559 Like, you can't, you can you can't improve on perfection, you know, 568 00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:52,000 perfect as they are? Yes, Well, Patreon supporters, this week 569 00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:57,039 you received the first part of our sort of long threatened at this point, 570 00:39:57,079 --> 00:40:00,360 Allison Chains Special. We we thought we'd follow up the album Club where we 571 00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:04,280 were talking about Matchbox twenty and all that. We've got a nice little reference 572 00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:07,320 there into the special itself, talking about grunge and yarling and all that stuff. 573 00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:13,400 It continues with, in my humble opinion, the greatest of all of 574 00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:16,480 those bands, and our first part, as said in the intro of this 575 00:40:16,519 --> 00:40:20,920 episode, was that I think it's just shy of three hours long in which 576 00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:24,119 we spoke about the early years of Alison Chain's up to and including the of 577 00:40:24,159 --> 00:40:30,760 course Seminal Dirt album. We spoke for a long long time on that and 578 00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:34,840 really really gave it the full dissection that deserves, but also talking about how 579 00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:38,039 they got there and the place they came from. I think is again of 580 00:40:38,119 --> 00:40:40,280 all the grunge bands and so on and bands of that ear, I think 581 00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:45,119 it's one of the most fascinating early years kind of discussions. How we go 582 00:40:45,199 --> 00:40:52,000 from Alison change very much like that, Like that's something that I'd never actually 583 00:40:52,119 --> 00:40:54,239 kind of gone in on that whole part of their career until now, and 584 00:40:54,280 --> 00:41:00,440 it's like, fuck me that the difference in the first ration of what this 585 00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:05,960 band is of like Lane Staley in a rock bands, its lead to going 586 00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:09,559 into Alison Chains and how you can still find the odd particularly on like face 587 00:41:09,639 --> 00:41:15,320 of maybe the odd little throwback to to some of that and how they were 588 00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:21,000 like the transition point between glam and grunging away. Yeah, like the emotional 589 00:41:21,079 --> 00:41:23,840 roller coaster of like doing this episode where I was like, I was actually 590 00:41:24,079 --> 00:41:30,639 full on belly laughing at points listening to like Alison Chains stuff all the way 591 00:41:30,679 --> 00:41:34,800 through to how like you know, very not funny, a lot of what's 592 00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:37,559 going on around you know the Dirt album in particularly in this part Dirt, 593 00:41:37,559 --> 00:41:40,239 it's one of those albums that just takes me every emotion word. There are 594 00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:44,800 songs like why I genuine to fist, pump and stomp around and have the 595 00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:47,360 best time because they are amazing schools, but then you're gonna go like at 596 00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:51,639 the same time, they are songs that make you feel just bad and that 597 00:41:51,639 --> 00:41:55,239 that had. The way that album transforms and transitions it is, it's a 598 00:41:55,239 --> 00:41:59,559 heavy discussion to have on that album, and like just yeah, it's pretty 599 00:41:59,559 --> 00:42:02,480 incredible. Chat Yeah and Facelift, I said as well, I feel it's 600 00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:06,639 an album that's been long overdue t and M discussion because I think, you 601 00:42:06,679 --> 00:42:08,239 know, Dirt and you know we're going to talk about the jarre fly zp 602 00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:10,079 and so on, they seem to get all most of the glory. But 603 00:42:10,119 --> 00:42:15,920 like Facelift is such a significant and as well unique and kind of strange album 604 00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:17,760 to go in on. So I really talking about that if this was one 605 00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:22,079 of those like, you know, parts for a special where listening so much 606 00:42:22,119 --> 00:42:25,239 in the days building up to it, I got fully lost and it listened 607 00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:28,639 to the same fucking songs again and again, listening to like down in a 608 00:42:28,679 --> 00:42:30,000 Whole six times in a day or whatever, and to the point where I 609 00:42:30,039 --> 00:42:32,079 was like, oh fuck, I can't believe we're not doing the next part 610 00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:36,760 immediately, like next week. It will be very very soon, you know, 611 00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:39,599 just after we've done the weekly the monthly review show, and so we 612 00:42:39,599 --> 00:42:43,719 will be coming back with part two of thousand Chains, where where we will 613 00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:46,639 conclude the lane stally years and then obviously we're going to move forward from there. 614 00:42:46,679 --> 00:42:51,639 So if you are into this story of one of the all time great 615 00:42:51,679 --> 00:42:54,239 bands, I think it's it's a hell of up time that we are having 616 00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:58,440 over there at the Patreon right now. So everybody you signed up in recent 617 00:42:58,559 --> 00:43:01,480 you know months for the set of Awful or what have you, I really 618 00:43:01,519 --> 00:43:04,960 hope that this is a special that you were going to have a lot of 619 00:43:05,559 --> 00:43:08,760 fun with and you know, be involved with as it develops over the next 620 00:43:09,039 --> 00:43:13,519 few weeks. You can find that at Patron. The com slash that's not 621 00:43:13,679 --> 00:43:16,199 Metal let's close this hyper blast with the releases for this week, of which 622 00:43:16,199 --> 00:43:20,480 there are quite a few, mainly in the underground, but particularly you know, 623 00:43:20,559 --> 00:43:22,920 at the top end as well. We've got some big ones, none 624 00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:25,440 bigger than, of course, the return of thirty Seconds to Mars with their 625 00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:30,159 convolutedly titled album It's the End of the World but It's a Beautiful Day. 626 00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:35,480 I had the VMA's on just on TV the other day and Darred leto turning 627 00:43:35,559 --> 00:43:38,400 up to talk about hip hop. Weirdly but like dropping his album's title in 628 00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:42,559 there was like a bit of a jump scare. It's been a while since 629 00:43:42,599 --> 00:43:46,000 the thirty Seconds to Mars album, Isn't it? Is that Brian Garrison's pal, 630 00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:52,360 Yeah, very much. I mean I forgot there was a fairy Seconds 631 00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:55,480 to Mars album a couple of years ago. In between I was like, 632 00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:58,920 man, it's been so since Love Last Day and Dreams. I was like, 633 00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:00,400 oh no, there was an albumber between that that. That album is 634 00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:04,880 burned into my mind because it's a special kind of terrible. But this one, 635 00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:07,000 even though like I didn't realize it was coming out this week until like 636 00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:10,119 two days ago, even though we were joking about like some of the music 637 00:44:10,159 --> 00:44:13,719 videos and stuff where he's just filmed it on his phone trying to do a 638 00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:17,119 TikTok challenge or whatever, but that is out. Corey Taylor has also got 639 00:44:17,159 --> 00:44:23,280 his second Corey Taylor's solo album out Today's CMF two, and one of the 640 00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:30,679 all time great TNM era rock bands, Baroness, return with Stone. Those 641 00:44:30,679 --> 00:44:32,360 are, of course, and records maybe not the third Sex to Mars one, 642 00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:36,880 but those are some records that we will have further thoughts on coming soon. 643 00:44:37,159 --> 00:44:39,639 Tess a Act are back with War of Being. I'm not a Tessa 644 00:44:39,679 --> 00:44:42,960 Rapt fan, as has maybe been alluded to on the show a couple of 645 00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:46,400 times, but I have seen from the Tests a Rapt fandom that this record 646 00:44:47,119 --> 00:44:51,400 kind of it seems to be like obviously not out for everyone to hear yet, 647 00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:52,159 but there seems to be a lot of talk and a lot of love 648 00:44:52,199 --> 00:44:57,320 around this particular Tests a Rapt album. So maybe for all you prog guys 649 00:44:57,320 --> 00:45:00,000 out there, this will be like a big release for you guys this year, 650 00:45:00,199 --> 00:45:01,960 I hope. So if you are into your nineties brit rock like you, 651 00:45:02,079 --> 00:45:07,199 they're Mark Ash are back with an album called Race the Night Danko Jones, 652 00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:12,559 the Canadian kind of just rock star lad. He's got an album called 653 00:45:12,559 --> 00:45:15,440 Electric Sounds. This one was actually out last week, but I kind of 654 00:45:15,519 --> 00:45:17,440 it slipped through the net of the releases list. I realized I meant to 655 00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:22,039 mention that, Yeah, yeah, paying the Truth. They released their debut 656 00:45:22,159 --> 00:45:25,400 album I think called Not Through Blood and we spoke up a band a little 657 00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:29,519 bit this year where around outbreak and so on. They're kind of, I 658 00:45:29,559 --> 00:45:31,920 guess, you know, one of the more popular current names in a current 659 00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:37,480 wave of like New York hardcore. They are like the flag bearers for the 660 00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:40,440 new wave of New York hardcore. No surprise is what this album sounds like. 661 00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:45,239 Pretty much every song bar one has a guest spot. Yeah. Likes 662 00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:51,000 violent, like hard hitting record. Loads of fun though, Yeah, and 663 00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:53,760 also if you want some more kind of metallic hardcorey stuff. Magnitudes are a 664 00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:58,440 band who have a record called of Days Renewed. Sam one of your favorite 665 00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:00,039 bands are back with their Is this their second record in a year of the 666 00:46:00,119 --> 00:46:06,760 year? This is this is the full band record, Yeah, acoustic solo 667 00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:09,159 record but under the Warrior's brand. Yeah, this is Warrior is the banding 668 00:46:09,239 --> 00:46:14,320 question. The record is called Trust Your Gut. I presume you'll be go 669 00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:16,039 over this one, all over that. Yeah, I hope it's everything you 670 00:46:16,039 --> 00:46:21,599 want it to be. Night versus kind of instrumental post hardcorey type deal. 671 00:46:22,119 --> 00:46:24,000 Every sound has of color in the valley of night and if you want some 672 00:46:24,039 --> 00:46:28,400 more you know, noodly stuff. Explosions in the Sky are back with an 673 00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:31,840 album called The End or End, and then as we move really into the 674 00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:36,840 nasty stuff this time, of course, as mentioned earlier, two Mold are 675 00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:40,440 releasing their fourth album, but their first in about four years, The Enduring 676 00:46:40,559 --> 00:46:46,920 Spirit. Brewheria, the very bizarre kind of Mexican drug cartel grindcore band. 677 00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:52,159 They've got a record called esto es Brewhirio, which I believe just means this 678 00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:57,599 is Brewhiria or something on those lines. Gridlink, the grindcore, fucking mental, 679 00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:00,320 bizarre tech grind outfit. We spoke about a single from t album a 680 00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:05,480 while ago. They are back with their first album in like almost a decade, 681 00:47:05,519 --> 00:47:10,199 called Coronet. Jupiter and Shining, the Swedish edgy Shining have got a 682 00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:15,039 self titled record out. For my sins, I think Shining have been a 683 00:47:15,199 --> 00:47:20,360 musically very very engaging band to me and my taste at times over the decade. 684 00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:22,039 So I will go check out the Shining Record and hope it's up to 685 00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:25,119 the last two records I think they've put out. We're both like two of 686 00:47:25,159 --> 00:47:29,000 my absolute favorites from so if this continues that great. Elsewhere, We've got 687 00:47:29,039 --> 00:47:34,119 Alkaloid New Men. They are one of the best like kind of technical progressive 688 00:47:34,119 --> 00:47:37,079 death metal bands at the moment. They share members with Obscurer and I guess 689 00:47:37,079 --> 00:47:43,840 Tripticon now as well, but like super heavy Lovecraftian tech death and then getting 690 00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:47,039 even more into sort of experimentally fair with your death metal. There's Fabricant Judge 691 00:47:47,079 --> 00:47:52,199 to the Thicket out on Profound Law and Altarage worst case scenario, and then 692 00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:58,039 as said earlier, there is the Blooding Cantation sort of two song mini album 693 00:47:58,119 --> 00:48:02,199 EP thing Luminescent Bridge and Mayhem. I've got a live album out called Demonic 694 00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:07,679 Rights, in which I presume their sound desk does not completely go ca put 695 00:48:07,679 --> 00:48:12,280 and result in necro Butcher throwing cans across the stage. Go let's do whatever 696 00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:15,960 that strikes your fancy. Thank you very much for listening to us. We 697 00:48:15,199 --> 00:48:20,639 will be back next week. With September's review shows, and we will pick 698 00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:23,679 eight of the gajillion albums that are coming out of the month September. We're 699 00:48:23,679 --> 00:48:25,519 not going to cover all the we probably won't be able to cover the fucking 700 00:48:25,559 --> 00:48:28,800 you know this prize release, two mold record or whatever, like, there's 701 00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:31,400 so much going on, but we are going to pick eight records to talk 702 00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:36,679 about in depth next week with myself, Sam and Elliott. So come and 703 00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:40,000 join us there. As said, Allison Chains special is underway over only. 704 00:48:40,039 --> 00:48:44,119 That's something our Patreon. Your support over there is really what helps keep this 705 00:48:44,159 --> 00:48:45,760 podcast alive and afloat, and let's us keep doing what we do, so 706 00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:49,960 thank you to everybody who has done so over there. We will see you 707 00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:52,719 for all of that very very soon. Cheers