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Yo, what's going on? Everybody? Welcome to a new episode of My

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Candicase. I'm Canaday and I'm on
today's episode. We have no special guests.

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We've been having a bunch of special
guests here recently that tried to will

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continue after this episode, so don't
you worry. Uh. We got catching

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up some on some news articles.
Uh, catching up on what me and

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Groovy been doing. Because if you
haven't turned into the wakem Bay Groovy was

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a judge at the seven to ten
camp Invitational recently. Seven ten just passed.

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We were out at Dabs don'nunt Stabs
and Dutchy event thrown by Harry from

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me Connect Puff or the Mike Cannon
Pros Group whatever. But first, also,

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I want to give a shout out
to our partners Kinship and Old School

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Organics. And we're actually about to
be sparking up on some exit one twenty

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seven I believe from Kinship right now. Yep, that's exactly what it is.

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I don't remember the crosses though,
yeah, I forgot the cross as

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well too. And we we actually
met up with Tyler from Kinship. If

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you haven't checked out that episode,
it dropped earlier this month. Great company

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because I believe that they are all
about the quality, They're about the terpenes,

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they're about giving you everything, not
just high THC. And that's what

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I mean by a great company.
It seems like they care fully throughout and

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you can see that within their product, you know. So but let's jump

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into and also shout out the cannabis
workers resource doing some great things. Yes,

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thank you, thank you, thank
you, and always old organics that's

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our fan. So yeah, I
know we're gonna talk a little bit kind

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of what's been new, trying to
kind of start segmenting some things because we're

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always just kind of all over the
place a little bit. So yeah,

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that's kind of what's been new.
Jump into whatever this whole run of stuff

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we've been doing, because I don't
know the last time you had an episode

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now, yeah, it's been like
June. Yeah, so yeah, No.

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Seven ten Inmentational was super fun.
A lot of fun. Uh.

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There was you know, a bunch
of brands alike, you know, uh,

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both sides of the system. But
you know, I enjoyed it.

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It was music festival for three days. They did like a hash competition.

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I was. I was fortunate enough
to try some full Melt, which was

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some really good full melt out there. I was really surprised on some of

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the full melt because some of it
was really turpy, And every time I've

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tried full Moult it's always been like
really hashy. So just the fact that

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it became so turpy was super duper
cool. Uh. And they got to

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play a set you know, shout
out to the whole crew there. That

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was a lot of fun. That's
what's up. Yeah, it was a

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lot of fun. Yeah. I
really wish could have made it. It

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was it was. It was a
good time. You would enjoyed it.

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A good hash it would have been
it would have been fun next time.

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Sound It seems like they'll probably be
another one throw next year. It seemed

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like it was a pretty good event. I was judging though. I was

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really cool, man, So I
never we've done judging before, but I've

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never done live judging before, and
live judging they brought it out individually where

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you kind of went together, so
it's like it kind of was kind of

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at your own pace. Like even
though we only had like twelve entries,

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like it still took me four or
five hours. Because if you can't really

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give it an honest judge and then
we were waiting there all day. I

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mean this was like just because we
had like everyone was late. It took

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forever. Like I was sitting at
that chair of for seven hours pretty much

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like yeah, usually I jump into
Ferson, Well what we's smoking on acident

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one twenty seven, so I always
jump into weed first. I was like

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dick a dad and I spoke with
you. But it was super cool,

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man. The one thing I thought
was cool about the live judging was it

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was people from all sorts of backgrounds. You know. You had people who

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just like loved it and then people
who like made it. You can meet

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up people, media people, ballar
blunts or blunts and ball arm blunts.

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They were there. Cool people shout
out the homies that I've ran into there.

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I don't know, it's a really
good time man, Like I said,

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I love the fact that you know, you can just get out there.

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There was some live glass blowing,
you know what I mean. Yeah,

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it was. It was a cool
vibe man, like a mini festival

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mostly focused on hash just with a
little music, you know what I mean.

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So it's fun, you know,
especially because like being a musician,

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like a lot of the festivals I
go to are music based and then you

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know, the party stuff is just
secondary, right, so it's different,

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Like the weed is first here and
then the music secondary. So it's always

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fun for me to go this,
and it's kind of like a different experience,

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you know, where like the hash
makers are like the the All Stars,

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they're like, oh you know they
walk around with that bitch, people

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like, oh, you know what
I mean. It's like the musicians are

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like, oh, you know,
just playing music, you know. So

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it was cool. I enjoyed it
a lot. Man. And then yeah,

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seven ten. Uh, Dave sent
me this article talking about the history

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of seven ten, So did you
want talk about that a little bit?

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Yeah, I mean this holiday just
passed. It's pretty brief, honestly,

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it's pretty much was started by connoissewers
with that we're getting into oil. When

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you think about it, you'll get
seven ten. You flip it upside down,

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that spells oil. It makes sense, cool calculator trick, and there's

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tons of other ones, but like
started probably the article said to twenty ten.

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So I honestly I remember hitting like
in twenty I think ten. It

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was either eleven or thirteen. I
think it was where eleven or twelve,

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maybe where Colorado had the seven ten
cup. I remember that was a big

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thing that I remember seeing because it
was all about the concentrates because concerts are

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blowing up and now it's showing that
there is a rise in concentrates, and

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that goes from your vapens, that
goes to your resin your rosin your hash.

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Anything that's not flowers pretty much can
content. I mean. But dude,

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I mean I truly feel like I
mean, Grant, I think I

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just didn't wasn't as immersed in the
hash community because we were such big,

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you know, smokers and everything.
But As I don't want to say made

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the switch, but you know,
I mean as I kind of like moved

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over to mainly just doing hashing them
alone. Like I think I found there

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was like a whole community, subsector
community. Because people have been talking about

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five stars, six star hash and
all these things about melt and all these

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things that I'm like, oh shit, and it's been like it's been common

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knowledge for them, you know,
So I think it's just been around a

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lot longer. I just think the
popularity and then the like selling it,

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like you know what I mean like
when someone like think about the idea of

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back in the day, when someone
could sell weed for fifty sixty dollars an

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eighth, why would they dull down
their whole crop to put it down to

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a little like wax, you know, why would they The money's more maximized

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Now. I think it's kind of
if you can produce good concentrates, you

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can make more money concentrates. You
know, if you will grow good flour,

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then you grow good flour, right, you know. So I think

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it's just kind of changed a little
bit. I guess that makes sense.

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But yeah, I just wanted to
touch base on that because then that pretty

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much goes to last week, which
was seven ten. I mean last week

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Wednesday. Instead of dropping a seven
ten episode, we dropped our episode with

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tie from Exoga Matter and zo Olympics. Those bags are going live this Saturday.

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So if you if you check out
that episode and you're like, yo,

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I want to cop one of those
rosin boxes or flower boxes Saturday.

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I'm assuming nine or ten am once
those dispos open and those boys, those

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will be gone pretty quick. I
have a feeling they're going to go pretty

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quick. Yeah, yeah, especially
the rosinin I mean, even just a

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good deal, like either of them
are good deals, especially if you're trying

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to try some new stuff, you
know. I mean, that's that's the

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big thing at the end of the
day, when you when I'm when you're

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trying to try new stuff, that
costs money because you got to buy a

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gram or eighth here in eighth your
GM because it's not like back to day

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where you could like just buy a
gram or like try pre pack now yeah,

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I mean, and then even with
wax, like you can find some

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bulk rosin and try some brands out
somewhat, but even then, like you

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got to go try the strains.
So it's just sometimes these are cost efficient

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if if there's good competitors. That's
why I like sometimes when they're like invites

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or like you know, because the
best of the best comps, because you

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tend to get better product when it's
just open. Because when it's open,

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you know, you get everyone in
their mama just trying to put for the

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marketing point because that's the thing.
Just being involved in these type of competitions

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get you so many touch points,
people just getting eyes on your brand.

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So it's like even if you come
in dead fucking last you still win,

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like you know what I mean.
But if you're still a winner, if

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you win, like when Known one
with Tottley Mount in January, you had

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to bring your best dab event.
That ship blew. I remember they were

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sold out. That was selling out
like hotcakes. That's the power of those

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events, these competitions. Yeah,
they should have saw as soon as Bake

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Tater's won or like one or one
Full Mountain got third and Hash everyone goes

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over there and the floor guy one
got second and both went over there.

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You know what I mean. As
soon as people start winning, you know,

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smoky, you know, you just
get this boost of pump and like

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we saw that back in high in
time, remember Zilla when they won,

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we saw like almost their booth get
tackled. You know that was like years

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ago. But yeah, but still
the same past ship. That shit happens.

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And so that was last week's episode. But yeah, then seventh time

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this year, shout out to Harry
and his team had the Dabs, Donuts

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and Dutchy event, which was pretty
dope. It was actually at the Marble

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Bar in Detroit, which is very
cool. That's a cool spot. You

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haven't checked it out. Definitely a
pretty cool spot the patio outside and like

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the the bar was nice. It's
right, I've only ever been there for

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like a like like techno show.
I think I went for like an afters

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years ago, after a movement or
something, or I mean I used to

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party, So if there's an electronic
music scene our venue, I've most likely

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been there. But because I like
to, I mean it's been different this

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year, but anyways, I love
that ship. But no, it was

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really cool and unique to see that
you could like be at the bar,

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you can go get some smoke,
you can smoke outside. There was brands,

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you can get some free dabs.
Like it was literally kind of like

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a mix of like every party type
of style you could have. And I

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really enjoyed it, Like it was
a great It was a great night cap

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to the seven time and funny because
it started at nine o'clock at night and

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went till two am. And tell
them why though in this I didn't even

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think about it until you said that, Oh yeah, yeah, you think

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about that, So this makes complete
sense because I was like, I was

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like, dude, I'm fucking tired
because I had a workday job too.

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I mean, so did you.
But I'm like I know, I had

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Fourth of July the past weekend,
and we were doing just so I'm like,

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I'm just so tired, and to
go out at nine, I was

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like, that sucks, you know
what I mean, It does suck.

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But speaking with Harry previously prior to
it, he goes, since it's seven

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ten on seven ten, a lot
of the buntenders, a lot of the

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people, a lot of the industry
workers are working that day, vendor days

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there are at other shops. You're
like, it's such a busy holiday now

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compared to four twenty that everyone's working. And so to get the whole community

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together like he did at night,
he had a way to set it off.

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You know. It's funny though,
but that that alone shows you the

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growth and concentrates. Oh, at
least here in Michigan, you know,

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And I know people talk whatever they
want to say about the market. Oh

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what's up, it's down, no
money, there's a lot of money,

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blah blah blah blah blah. Regardless, there's still being money being made and

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companies still being started every day,
and license is still going on all the

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time. So you know, which, again I don't know if that's totally

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a good thing. You're kind of
the overset is partially the reason. So

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yeah, but I don't know.
I think it's uh. I think just

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seeing that growth in seven ten,
just showing you that because everyone's planning for

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it, just shows you there's bigger
numbers on that day. I mean,

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especially when you have full brands.
Now, Like I mean, I remember

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that when we were talking about I
can't wait too. We see crops that

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just go straight to Rosin. And
then I think two or three years ago

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we did uh that tour with whatever
on eight mile, that one where we

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were like we saw a full grow
that just went right to Rosin and I

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was like, oh shit, oh
shit. And now since then, there's

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tons of that type of shit.
There's tons of companies just surviving off.

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They don't even fucking grow, like
you know, it's just they go when

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they process because they're just it's became
such an again, I think it's just

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a process. I think the community
is just growing. That hash community is

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growing at a at a faster rate
than the stoners or the just smoking flower

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just because it's newer. And then
like think about the dad pens, Like

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the pens really shot concentrates of all
lot because a lot of people won't dab,

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but a lot of people hit that
pen. For example, all my

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family over for the July Oh,
everyone's cool in a little pen, but

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I rub out a dab rig and
whoa you doing there, Bud. I'm

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like, same shit, shit and
the same shit like yeah, you know

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what I'm saying, but same ship. And That's what I'm trying to say.

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But the accessibility to that is why
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know, don't obviously the quality of
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the pen's really changed the game because
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like everyone's cool with a pen just
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you know, especially now with the
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be really tasty too. You know, facts facts, yeah, man,

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and I mean I bought some Rosa
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been that's been my it's been.
It's going on with me, man.

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I got a couple of gigs come
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then Summer and Smokeout in the Up
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sorts of shit up there in the
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eighth of the twelfth. So that's
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right now? It's my tunnel vision
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yeah, check out that Exotic Matter
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another thing we got going on.
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this Saturday, right you said,
isn't it this Saturday coming out? Facts?

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the podcast is coming out? Yeah
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Snoop Dogg launched his first suspencer.
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Weed every day. Kind of kind
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was watching a video. Looked like
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kind of waiting for him actually have
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he's I'm i mean might hate him
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growing it at all, like not
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you think about that. That mofucker
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need to do the music anymore.
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like if he'll just look up to
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all that, and he ain't grown
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it must be good shit, right. I feel like he's really gonna

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sift through his cultiverse, like he's
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after putting his name on fucking everything
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like he's on everything, He's on
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he gonna do something for the Olympics, he's supposed to do like some narration.

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that type of ship. So like, nah, I think he's out of

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the grunt work, but I think
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try to find something good. Yeah, that's what I think. I think

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of anything, he'd be Yes,
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are brought out here. The crip
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was called let me try the other
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nath You really don't memory giving your
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you a naight yeah, and then
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there's a little bit yeah of that
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he matched. So you didn't give
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like you said, not surprised because
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was little throwing out weed, even
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it's the brand's going everywhere. Yeah, so did you see where it was

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was Cali. Excuse me, I
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of smoke. Super healthy, that's
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all right. So yeah, other
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real quick. Hell yeah, so
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rosin this is. So it's rosin
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that play crap, but I can't
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know. I don't know containers the
other if you're not where we go live

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that subscriber and go to YouTube.
That's funny. You nailed it lately when

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you call out kinship the lower thirds
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see it. You know that crushing
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any of that. The only time
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I'm virtual and we're more than anything
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brain, fucking everything's just going off. I don't know what article you had

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next, that you want to pull
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into. I was just gonna pull
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over to Michigan. That's kind of
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today are in Michigan a little bit
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of fascinating I think in general.
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I didn't like the article heading,
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the I'm gonna read the article heading
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bill to merge uh MED and rec
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new, but how they worded this
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simplify recreation of medical marijuana rules.
You know why I laugh at that,

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because I truly feel like, look
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showing them that like, oh,
it's gonna be easier, it's gonna be

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easier, not any of the negative
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some positives. I'm sure it was
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h that's very it's very wary.
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you know and shout out marijuana movement. When I read through the article,

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you know there are they make some
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think ahead in that, Like they
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away, so this is a way
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access still or whatever. I'm like, all right, that's kind of an

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all right idea. But the only
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of the bill because I don't really
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marijuana US just of access to campus. That that's important. But what's more

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important is not getting rid of the
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that caregiver option option, which you're
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and telling all these medical patients you
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and then all these caregivers just have
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just stop their little side house,
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this money that's been invested. I
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putting your money about put into it
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Now we changed our mind. It's
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over again, like the fuck.
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I don't know, and like it
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you're always like it's gotta be about
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what do you think when you hear
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the medical markets, drinking brown people
aren't renewing their cards. Uh, you're

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losing caregivers. More and more people
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see from the caregiver program have gone
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but you don't know. I mean, it very well could be, you

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know, yeah, I just I
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mind blowing because like to be like
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Like there's always different lights unless they're
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I don't know, but there's different
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it is. It's one license for
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that's fine. Then that should be
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I was an eight law that was
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law is the one that in crafted
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like the twenty sixteen one where it
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in m FLA. That's when they
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were able to break out licenses so
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were able to track all the product. Because when I got raided in twenty

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fifteen, there was no no no
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overages to your patients as a caregiver, and that was not happening because it

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was a shot. So technically anything
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was all illegal completely to the t. Yeah, I know, so I

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knew that that was always the correct
me up because you beat a dispo and

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you know he's been wall you shouldn't
get ready, right, you probably shouldn't

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get ready, probably won't. So, I mean, it depends on what

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they're if what they're no, and
they have one license for activity and that's

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why when they brought up that point. That's a very good point, and

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I'm like, that would make it
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to thrive and honestly to be able
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it as a rec brand, you're
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it may not be a big market, but some of the medical marijuana buy

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marijuana. You just buy a lot
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like justice hitting their pocketbooks. You open

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up the whole thing to everybody,
and everyone just kind of sells and you

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either get your discount or you don't, and that's it. That'd be fucking

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glorious because I think you don't have
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of the caregivers. Yeah, and
that's what I was trying to say.

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When you read this article, it
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I'm just like the way they word
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it's very hopefully that's all that's in
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it's just a very you know,
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all they put in. They're not
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now caregivers can only have three patients. You know what I mean,

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because that's the type of shit that
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eight laws. Well that's saying but
which which one is that? Because they

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talk they they bring in regard to
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through five A five. I thought
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into Congress right now, so we're
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where justin it might be to their
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is. I misunderstood, which when
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quoting twenty six so basically just an
editing the bill because that the MCMA was

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trying to craft the two thousand and
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and that's and the cares were sucked
up everything. Well, that's what I

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was trying to say. I just
don't want every it's just getting that that

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deja vu of just don't want the
caregames to know if they're just working with

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the licenses and trying that that could
be sweet. We're not there, I

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mean, you're not taking away the
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but that could actually win because you're winning

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for the paye like like everyone wins. Patients get access to more product,

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you know, regular tourists can sell
to more people, Granma devs, you

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know what I mean. So there's
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that. And like when I really
sit down and think about everything, it

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could go either way and it seems
positive. So hopefully it is positive.

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Hopefully it stays positive. We shall
see. The next one I have to

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pull up. This one's kind of
funny aiming more than anything. I really

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enjoyed the name on this one.
I loved it. It was called the

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doo Be Act. Do Be Act. I'm pretty bumped for that one.

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uh, because otherwise it got too
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from cannabis pass usage as how what
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Doobi Act. The idea of this do

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Be Act is to prevent agencies from
using past marijuana use to deny employment and

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security clearances. So I think that's
kind of a fascinating just idea in general,

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it looks like Senator Gary Peters filed
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latest legislative to attempt to ensure that
a person's eligibility for federal workforce is not

407
00:24:45.680 --> 00:24:49.480
legally impacted just because they're previously consumed
cannabis. How I took this for example,

408
00:24:49.599 --> 00:24:52.079
was like, say you want to
be a cop, but like you

409
00:24:52.119 --> 00:24:56.279
were a young kid and you got
you got caught trapping or something selling some

410
00:24:56.319 --> 00:24:59.359
bud, like can not prevent you, Like now you can be a cop

411
00:24:59.519 --> 00:25:00.799
or whatever, right, or you
could just spend like us and got pulled

412
00:25:00.839 --> 00:25:04.240
over coming over all eight miles are
coming up from Detroit. Yeah, yeah,

413
00:25:04.319 --> 00:25:08.319
I'm sure that's expounds now, but
yeah, I know, but give

414
00:25:08.359 --> 00:25:14.799
an example. Yeah it's funny.
It's funny. That was like fifteen years

415
00:25:14.839 --> 00:25:18.720
ago now, so yeah, yeah, it was a long time ago,

416
00:25:18.519 --> 00:25:22.799
very long time ago, that's for
sure. No, but I truly get

417
00:25:22.799 --> 00:25:26.519
pulled over because they allectually saw our
car in a completely area that we were

418
00:25:27.119 --> 00:25:34.559
We weren't in there. So this
do be act to prevent from federal people?

419
00:25:34.839 --> 00:25:37.039
What do you what is your feeling
on this, because like I mean,

420
00:25:37.079 --> 00:25:41.319
I think it's really this is this
was to me was truly just seemed

421
00:25:41.359 --> 00:25:44.160
positive if this went through, because
I think there's a lot of jobs where

422
00:25:44.160 --> 00:25:48.400
people sure smoke, we get screwed, like especially like think about those federal

423
00:25:48.440 --> 00:25:49.799
desk jobs that are safe and people
have families. Oh, just because you

424
00:25:49.799 --> 00:25:52.680
smoke weed, you can't get jobs
if you want. Yeah, exactly.

425
00:25:52.880 --> 00:25:56.759
Oh, I agree, it's good. That's a good one. Yeah.

426
00:25:56.799 --> 00:26:00.039
No, I think that'll be good. You kill you. This is definitely

427
00:26:00.039 --> 00:26:03.880
opening it up and making it more
of destroying that negative stigma behind it.

428
00:26:04.000 --> 00:26:07.839
You're comparing it to regular alcohol,
tobacco and everything else. So yeah,

429
00:26:07.920 --> 00:26:11.519
it should it shouldn't if people were
making millions and billions off of it,

430
00:26:11.759 --> 00:26:17.079
Your misdemeanor crime should be gone,
even even a felony for weeed, in

431
00:26:17.079 --> 00:26:21.720
my opinion, should be gone now
because it's like, Yo, we're making

432
00:26:21.880 --> 00:26:23.799
how much this building. This is
supposed to like a fifty billion dollar market

433
00:26:23.880 --> 00:26:29.799
in the near future just cannabis alone, So it's like that's probably even more

434
00:26:29.839 --> 00:26:32.839
than that, you know, But
yeah, this is this is this is

435
00:26:32.839 --> 00:26:37.079
great. This one seems positive.
But also underneath the proposal, the Director

436
00:26:37.119 --> 00:26:41.279
of National Intelligence d and I would
be required to enact regulations that update its

437
00:26:41.279 --> 00:26:48.240
own cannabis policies and assist other federal
agencies implementing the employment and security clearance changes.

438
00:26:48.720 --> 00:26:51.839
So there's there's still so like,
hey, we're given some power to

439
00:26:51.880 --> 00:26:53.359
some people here, but I just
want to like make some note that there

440
00:26:53.359 --> 00:26:56.720
are like you know, to that
point, you know the other things that

441
00:26:56.799 --> 00:27:00.920
DNI is previously affirmed that is not
the federal government's current policy deny people's scaredy

442
00:27:00.920 --> 00:27:04.519
clearances based off past marijuana uses.
What that's in the dB. Yeah.

443
00:27:04.559 --> 00:27:07.920
Yeah, they're basically trying to prevent
it. Seems like almost for military end

444
00:27:08.000 --> 00:27:12.079
for when you talk clearance, So
you're taking out because people if you know,

445
00:27:12.200 --> 00:27:15.960
what's security clearances I'm talking about,
like is like you could work up

446
00:27:15.079 --> 00:27:18.240
the chain, you know, DC
and stuff. You know, great,

447
00:27:18.319 --> 00:27:21.319
they have the same right I yeah, because basically they were being judged for

448
00:27:21.359 --> 00:27:23.079
smoking. Yeah, there's nothing wrong
with nothing wrong with it. I go

449
00:27:23.200 --> 00:27:26.119
to go to a wine vineyard and
go sip on wine and NAPO, you

450
00:27:26.200 --> 00:27:30.039
know, so the same clearance.
Yeah, I mean they just don't judge

451
00:27:30.079 --> 00:27:33.839
on it. Everyone. I can't
say that they wouldn't hire you over d

452
00:27:34.000 --> 00:27:37.400
U. I they might not.
I don't really know. They might not

453
00:27:37.559 --> 00:27:40.119
hire over d U. I you
know what I'm saying, you can't that.

454
00:27:40.240 --> 00:27:42.119
I don't know about. So,
but the way I thought this one

455
00:27:42.200 --> 00:27:45.039
was cool, So we'll see in
this one. I don't think this one's

456
00:27:45.079 --> 00:27:48.359
bipartisan, but I don't see why
it wouldn't be. This seems to be

457
00:27:48.480 --> 00:27:55.000
positive for both sides, So I
I couldn't see this being bad. I

458
00:27:55.039 --> 00:27:56.519
think it's fair. I think I
think it should happen right away. I

459
00:27:56.559 --> 00:28:00.920
think there should be I think there
shouldn't be drug test thing for employment for

460
00:28:00.000 --> 00:28:03.200
everybody completely too, because it's legal
all the way up through the system.

461
00:28:03.279 --> 00:28:06.880
Like honest, well, I just
don't. I think cannabis just needs to

462
00:28:06.920 --> 00:28:11.039
be removed from that drug testing thing
in general. Like everyone's you, how

463
00:28:11.039 --> 00:28:14.000
many times have we heard this being
in Michigan, especially because it's been legal

464
00:28:14.039 --> 00:28:15.880
here for so long. Oh,
well, we have it on there,

465
00:28:15.920 --> 00:28:18.000
but we don't care, Like so
many people say their employee says they don't

466
00:28:18.000 --> 00:28:21.240
care. Yeah, you know,
but they still have to it. I

467
00:28:21.279 --> 00:28:22.759
mean even that's w Yeah, you
had to. I mean we all had

468
00:28:22.759 --> 00:28:26.279
to take Sometimes you have to take
a drug test but sometimes they're just don't

469
00:28:26.279 --> 00:28:27.519
worry about the weed because once it's
legal, they're just like, don't worry

470
00:28:27.519 --> 00:28:33.960
about it. I mean, because
it's just weed. Yeah, so the

471
00:28:34.119 --> 00:28:37.720
drug tests, yeah, I dude, people, I still can't believe it,

472
00:28:37.880 --> 00:28:41.119
Like, but the weed's on drug
tests in Michigan, Like it's been

473
00:28:41.200 --> 00:28:47.599
legal here for a long time.
Eighteen boy, crazy crazy. Yeah.

474
00:28:48.079 --> 00:28:52.640
Anyways, the last article, so
this is this may be more common nowage

475
00:28:52.680 --> 00:28:56.039
people who are in Michigan. But
if you're not familiar with Michigan, white

476
00:28:56.160 --> 00:29:03.359
underneath Michigan, is this a little
place called Ohio? I got what's ball?

477
00:29:03.480 --> 00:29:07.480
So I don't understand that. Hey, it's just Michigan southern soun good

478
00:29:07.519 --> 00:29:11.319
in Ohio. I'm just kind.
All our Ohio listeners. We know we'll

479
00:29:11.400 --> 00:29:14.240
talk though. I did drive through
Ohio on the way back from Kentucky and

480
00:29:14.319 --> 00:29:18.400
I tried this chill this chili.
It was like sweet chili, super weird.

481
00:29:18.680 --> 00:29:23.200
I'm not recommending it. I forget
what the chili skyline skyline chili damn,

482
00:29:25.000 --> 00:29:29.400
and like seven pounds of cold cheese
on top. If equals listen to

483
00:29:29.440 --> 00:29:34.200
this, he would agree with me
and Ohio and he's literally from Ohio because

484
00:29:34.200 --> 00:29:37.359
I'm just saying it's midwestate. But
no, No, the whole point that

485
00:29:37.400 --> 00:29:41.400
I brought up, Ohio is like
as much as Michigan. God damn it,

486
00:29:41.440 --> 00:29:45.880
dude, I can't even say the
word Ohio. But this whole article

487
00:29:45.960 --> 00:29:52.400
talks about this, says where to
go, Michigan will not be the number

488
00:29:52.440 --> 00:29:56.960
one market. Ohio helps Michigan number
makes Michigan number one in weed sales,

489
00:29:56.960 --> 00:29:59.960
but perhaps for not not long.
And I don't think it's notentially saying miss

490
00:30:00.240 --> 00:30:02.920
is not going to lose the number
one spot. I think what it's saying

491
00:30:03.160 --> 00:30:07.079
is that Ohio, as going legal, is pretty much in the same boat

492
00:30:07.160 --> 00:30:10.880
that we were. It's just starting
to get its boats rowing. Because I

493
00:30:11.000 --> 00:30:12.880
was taking in with the article was
like, hey, that now with Ohio

494
00:30:12.960 --> 00:30:18.039
going legal and they're all their businesses, Michigan's going to loose out on all

495
00:30:18.079 --> 00:30:22.279
that revenue because people from Ohio are
going to travel to Michigan. That's what

496
00:30:22.319 --> 00:30:26.240
I'm saying. Yeah, I can
see that, but it depends on how

497
00:30:26.319 --> 00:30:27.759
the quality of the product is.
Personally. If the quality of the products

498
00:30:27.759 --> 00:30:30.079
is still not good and people are
making a half hour forty five minute drive,

499
00:30:30.079 --> 00:30:33.720
I think they're going to continue to
still make that drive. You probably

500
00:30:33.720 --> 00:30:37.599
won't get people in southern Ohio making
the drive, you know, but also

501
00:30:37.920 --> 00:30:44.160
we still you still have Indiana,
So I don't know. Yeah, I

502
00:30:44.200 --> 00:30:47.200
don't know. It's all about the
all about what you like. If there's

503
00:30:47.200 --> 00:30:49.160
certain brands you like that aren't in
your state that you've fallen in love with,

504
00:30:49.279 --> 00:30:52.039
you might still cross. But I
do think it's gonna affect Michigan sales,

505
00:30:52.039 --> 00:30:55.559
and I think we will drop for
sure because we probably do get a

506
00:30:55.640 --> 00:31:00.960
lot from out of state Indiana too. Indiana though, go legal. They're

507
00:31:02.240 --> 00:31:04.799
they're way but they're way back there. Yeah, no, they're I don't

508
00:31:04.839 --> 00:31:11.599
see Indiana going illegal. No either
do I It would be interesting. It

509
00:31:11.720 --> 00:31:14.240
is interesting the day. Yeah.
I just feel like, no matter why,

510
00:31:14.319 --> 00:31:17.839
we look at, Ohio has been
helping the market here for a while.

511
00:31:17.960 --> 00:31:22.359
I I just think that because it
took us like two to four years

512
00:31:22.400 --> 00:31:25.519
to really get medical legal, a
long of shit like you have weed in

513
00:31:25.599 --> 00:31:27.440
your state, people growing. It
just takes a while to people get used

514
00:31:27.480 --> 00:31:32.480
to the laws, like cops that
get used to it legal stores like the

515
00:31:32.880 --> 00:31:33.960
raids we had. I just think, no matter what I know, they're

516
00:31:34.039 --> 00:31:37.279
legal, but even their weed's gonna
suck for a while. Well that and

517
00:31:37.440 --> 00:31:41.599
also it's going to be very expensive. And I still feel like people are

518
00:31:41.599 --> 00:31:42.880
still gonna get ship meld in.
Like I still feel like people are going

519
00:31:42.920 --> 00:31:45.160
to break the rules at first,
because everyone's going to be just say a

520
00:31:45.200 --> 00:31:48.240
fuck it. No one knows what
they're doing at first, So now is

521
00:31:48.279 --> 00:31:51.200
the time to take advantage of it, just like they did here. Yeah,

522
00:31:51.319 --> 00:31:53.319
just don't get caught, don't lose
that license you got. That would

523
00:31:53.359 --> 00:31:57.759
suck, especially because I bet you
they're rare right now. Yeah, you

524
00:31:57.880 --> 00:32:01.279
paid all that money, then you
fuck it up real quick. Yeah,

525
00:32:01.400 --> 00:32:07.079
that would be a bummer. That
would be a bummer. Oh shit,

526
00:32:07.640 --> 00:32:10.880
I'm curious when I was up and
running in like four years from now,

527
00:32:10.920 --> 00:32:15.200
how their bud actually is. We'll
we'll take a trip down there one of

528
00:32:15.240 --> 00:32:16.880
these years. Right now, obviously
they got nothing. I don't even know

529
00:32:16.960 --> 00:32:23.960
when wreck opens up for them officially, doesn't say an le I close that.

530
00:32:25.960 --> 00:32:36.039
I can look it up though Google
I had it closed too. Oh

531
00:32:36.160 --> 00:32:39.079
it's it's legal, so there's actual
shops then, I don't know. It

532
00:32:39.079 --> 00:32:44.279
went legal in December seven of twenty
three. Yeah, yeah, I know

533
00:32:44.480 --> 00:32:46.759
that I didn't know if when like
actual shops go open. I think it

534
00:32:46.839 --> 00:32:51.079
took us a year to have actual
shops open, about a year. I

535
00:32:51.119 --> 00:32:53.559
remember it was a while. It
was a little while of twenty years because

536
00:32:53.559 --> 00:32:55.400
it wasn't until the disco was opened. Then I was like, all right,

537
00:32:55.440 --> 00:32:58.599
I should get my card. And
then I got my card because I

538
00:32:58.599 --> 00:33:00.519
didn't get my adol. So that
was nine two o them him because it

539
00:33:00.720 --> 00:33:04.519
was not open for sure for a
little while. If not, they were

540
00:33:04.599 --> 00:33:06.599
like one of those hidden ones that
were like you know, you had a

541
00:33:06.759 --> 00:33:09.000
knock out a door, look at
a security camera and go through one sign

542
00:33:09.039 --> 00:33:12.200
a piece of paper and go through
another door type of shit. And then

543
00:33:12.200 --> 00:33:15.039
they had like two strains. That
was it. Hey man, I was

544
00:33:15.039 --> 00:33:16.799
just having to buy when you don't
grow that shit. You were like sick.

545
00:33:16.920 --> 00:33:20.160
Oh dude. It was the greatest
moment in my life. I'll never

546
00:33:20.160 --> 00:33:23.400
forget the first time I saw,
especially being at water for it was crazy,

547
00:33:23.440 --> 00:33:25.359
you know, because I went to
that dispo that I was like all

548
00:33:25.440 --> 00:33:28.680
hidden and shit. Then I went
to dispo those right in the open and

549
00:33:28.759 --> 00:33:30.960
they had like twenty thirty strains and
you went into like these little cubicles and

550
00:33:31.000 --> 00:33:35.920
sat with someone talked about some shit
and they recommended a couple. I was

551
00:33:35.960 --> 00:33:37.000
like, this is nuts. And
then now look where we are. You

552
00:33:37.039 --> 00:33:39.880
can order online if you stive,
if you have to wait in the line,

553
00:33:39.920 --> 00:33:45.319
people are frustrated. It's like Jesuschrist, we're buying we we legalish Yeah,

554
00:33:45.480 --> 00:33:49.119
be heavy. Yeah, And the
deals nowadays is insane because there's so

555
00:33:49.200 --> 00:33:52.000
many different brands. It's a consumer's
market, man, that's for sure.

556
00:33:52.279 --> 00:33:55.079
Rozen was about twenty four or five
years ago. Fucking ace, we're fucking

557
00:33:55.160 --> 00:33:59.839
sixty five, seventy five. You
can still find seventy dollars. Gram wax

558
00:34:00.119 --> 00:34:02.119
just doesn't move as fast, and
it has to be really really good.

559
00:34:04.160 --> 00:34:07.480
Yeah. Back in the day it
just had to be not shitty because it

560
00:34:07.559 --> 00:34:08.800
was like all poop soup. And
then when you would see some batter that

561
00:34:08.920 --> 00:34:13.679
was good, they'd be like,
sixty big what here you go? Like,

562
00:34:13.880 --> 00:34:17.039
you know what I mean, just
to have flavor. Back in the

563
00:34:17.119 --> 00:34:20.639
day, dads were like, we
thought dabs would gt you high, but

564
00:34:20.719 --> 00:34:25.400
really we're just ripping them, just
these huge hot dads. Yeah, brutal

565
00:34:25.440 --> 00:34:29.679
to the lungs. Man. Now
people are taking baby dabs and turpy dabs

566
00:34:29.679 --> 00:34:37.119
and just flavorful stuff like having turp
timers and it's insane, insane. I

567
00:34:37.159 --> 00:34:39.519
love it. It's a market growing
market, full circle, back to the

568
00:34:39.559 --> 00:34:44.199
seven ten thing. It's full circle. The city is you see it is,

569
00:34:45.880 --> 00:34:49.079
guys are so you know. No, I mean that's all we got.

570
00:34:49.199 --> 00:34:52.800
Article wise, we got some cool
episodes next week. Oh No,

571
00:34:52.880 --> 00:34:58.880
I want to talk about Oregon's first
the nation psilocybin industry. UH is struggling

572
00:34:58.920 --> 00:35:02.239
to find pain customers after launching.
So obviously they would they wouldn't legal over

573
00:35:02.280 --> 00:35:07.320
there with the mushrooms. But it's
been a slow ride. And I was

574
00:35:07.400 --> 00:35:10.719
reading this and I think if I'm
not understanding, understanding goes A majority of

575
00:35:10.800 --> 00:35:14.519
ore On voters in twenty twenty improved
Measure one or nine, which directed the

576
00:35:14.639 --> 00:35:17.800
org On Health Authority to create a
legal system for offering psilocybin. Unlike marijuana,

577
00:35:17.840 --> 00:35:22.400
customers can only buy and use psilocybin
mushrooms under the watchful eye of a

578
00:35:22.519 --> 00:35:27.480
state licensed facilitator and a service center
like vital Reset. So this is where

579
00:35:27.639 --> 00:35:30.199
this is where I think it's not
happening. It's because prices usually range between

580
00:35:30.239 --> 00:35:36.360
eight hundred and twenty five hundred for
a trip I'm sorry, and two therapeutic

581
00:35:36.440 --> 00:35:39.639
sessions with the facilitator, although I
have kids, say discounts are often available.

582
00:35:40.679 --> 00:35:44.719
Then you have other states watching this, like Colorado. So I remember

583
00:35:44.760 --> 00:35:49.920
when they first came to a market
that they was going to be there was

584
00:35:50.079 --> 00:35:53.079
going to be the people there to
watch you, which is interesting. But

585
00:35:53.079 --> 00:35:57.280
if you're paying that much, that's
really that's a lot of money. I

586
00:35:57.360 --> 00:36:00.880
really wouldn't like someone watching me.
Well, they're there there to make sure

587
00:36:00.920 --> 00:36:01.960
you, yeah, as a guide, but like you know, as someone

588
00:36:02.000 --> 00:36:06.159
who's allegedly tripped a bunch. It's
like, I don't know if i'd feel

589
00:36:06.199 --> 00:36:15.320
comfortable with someone just no, I
that I would not eight hundred even eight

590
00:36:15.400 --> 00:36:17.119
low and an eight hundred dollars bro. You can just find you can find

591
00:36:17.119 --> 00:36:23.519
it for eight hundred dollars. You
can buy QP allegedly nowadays. Dude,

592
00:36:23.639 --> 00:36:27.639
I heard the shops opening up and
in arbor, Like I haven't actually seen

593
00:36:27.719 --> 00:36:30.239
that yet, but like I believe
it. It's like it's literally like how

594
00:36:30.320 --> 00:36:34.960
medical came exactly. It's like twenty
two thousand and nine two thousand, except

595
00:36:34.960 --> 00:36:37.400
for except for it's not even medical
they're just it's just a criminalize so it's

596
00:36:37.400 --> 00:36:40.119
a little different, you know,
but same analogy what I was making earlier.

597
00:36:40.119 --> 00:36:43.599
It's just analogy, but people are
able to go in and then go

598
00:36:43.679 --> 00:36:46.559
get different different, uh different,
Yeah, where it's like illegal but it's

599
00:36:46.639 --> 00:36:52.599
not. Yeah, I'm all about
it. I think I think the psilocyber

600
00:36:52.679 --> 00:36:58.719
market will expand and be there in
time because it's more and more. It's

601
00:36:58.719 --> 00:37:00.719
coming out as therapeutic more and more
or micro doc And I've actually been doing

602
00:37:00.800 --> 00:37:04.519
a little bit here and there.
A couple of days I've done chocolate bars

603
00:37:04.599 --> 00:37:07.960
capsules and it does help some days
I've been sorry. I've been wanting to

604
00:37:09.119 --> 00:37:13.800
write it in my journal when I
take it, but also even taking like

605
00:37:13.840 --> 00:37:15.800
a one grammar like when we when
we micro dos on my birthday, Like

606
00:37:16.320 --> 00:37:21.000
when we that was a gram that
had to be some decent because like it

607
00:37:21.000 --> 00:37:23.400
because it had been I was definitely
a dinner just like because she was a

608
00:37:23.400 --> 00:37:27.599
little bit because like I've done micros
and I'm like, I'm getting nothing like

609
00:37:27.719 --> 00:37:29.920
that one time and I was just
like, no micro dos. You really

610
00:37:29.960 --> 00:37:32.280
shouldn't feel I don't, right,
So that was that wasn't because I think

611
00:37:32.280 --> 00:37:36.039
that was me. A micro dos
is like a point to point one.

612
00:37:36.760 --> 00:37:39.639
That's why I feel like I might
go point two for me, maybe point

613
00:37:39.679 --> 00:37:43.039
one, but that's from point one. I don't really, I don't.

614
00:37:43.079 --> 00:37:45.400
There's nothing. There's just more of, like a more of like a good

615
00:37:45.480 --> 00:37:47.000
bud, good night, even good
buzz. It's like lifts me up right,

616
00:37:47.440 --> 00:37:52.360
good feel. So I think it's
time. With all the different sub

617
00:37:52.440 --> 00:37:55.480
variants of psilocybin, all the different
speed, species and strains everyone call it,

618
00:37:57.960 --> 00:38:00.679
I think it will be able to
be a great market. It just

619
00:38:00.679 --> 00:38:02.480
depends on how it's written in a
lot, I don't think the facilitator and

620
00:38:02.559 --> 00:38:06.480
having it strictly like that. If
you have shops and then you also have

621
00:38:06.639 --> 00:38:07.960
these places where people want to go, and maybe you want to take a

622
00:38:08.039 --> 00:38:13.159
macro and take like a five gram
or a godly seven gram trip, but

623
00:38:13.320 --> 00:38:15.920
you want someone there with you so
if anything goes wrong, you're safe and

624
00:38:16.039 --> 00:38:20.000
that might make your trip even open
up for some other people. Well,

625
00:38:20.159 --> 00:38:22.039
honestly, for a lot of people, dude, they're not ready for that.

626
00:38:22.440 --> 00:38:25.639
Like that. That ship was crazy
my first couple of times on Macro.

627
00:38:27.159 --> 00:38:31.000
Like that is a wild experience,
man, And it's a. It's

628
00:38:31.039 --> 00:38:35.000
a wild experience. Man. Every
time I've tripped has been a little different.

629
00:38:35.119 --> 00:38:37.000
And my big thing about that is
that's why I kind of like that

630
00:38:37.079 --> 00:38:39.800
idea of someone babysitting, like you
said, like I get that now,

631
00:38:40.719 --> 00:38:44.639
but just not for that price in
that only winn no, but hold on.

632
00:38:44.760 --> 00:38:46.239
But even so, this is why
I think it's gonna even though I

633
00:38:46.239 --> 00:38:50.000
think cannabis is paving the way like
you said, for like mushrooms, I

634
00:38:50.039 --> 00:38:53.679
definitely think that. But the only
issue is, like I can take a

635
00:38:53.880 --> 00:38:58.719
gram dab to the face and the
most that's gonna happen is I'm gonna past

636
00:38:58.760 --> 00:39:01.159
the fuck out right, I'm gonna
get little nauseous, really if I can't

637
00:39:01.159 --> 00:39:06.280
handle myself, like whatever, right, man, Mushrooms will fuck you up

638
00:39:06.400 --> 00:39:07.320
and you eat a little too much. So my whole point is, like

639
00:39:07.320 --> 00:39:12.480
I don't know if the public's ready
for that, Like I'm there. I'm

640
00:39:12.519 --> 00:39:16.559
all for legaling, like like I'm
all cool with like legalizing a lot of

641
00:39:16.679 --> 00:39:21.320
drugs, but I think there's a
lot of education that needs to go behind

642
00:39:21.360 --> 00:39:24.119
csilocybin, you know what I mean. I think it's okay when someone experiments

643
00:39:24.159 --> 00:39:27.519
with weed because at the end of
day. It's a very mild drug.

644
00:39:27.599 --> 00:39:30.320
It doesn't fuck you up that much, right, Like, it's the same

645
00:39:30.320 --> 00:39:32.599
thing with alcohol. Why there's so
much education out there because that she can

646
00:39:32.679 --> 00:39:36.000
buck you up. If you drink
too much, you cannot be able to

647
00:39:36.079 --> 00:39:39.360
drive a car. Oh okay,
then I came right like, and I

648
00:39:39.400 --> 00:39:42.760
guess I guess people could say the
same thing to me, like, oh,

649
00:39:42.800 --> 00:39:45.320
hey, but groovy. What if
someone smoked a joint and they're all

650
00:39:45.400 --> 00:39:50.400
sure, But I'm talking about like
as you use drugs, like especially with

651
00:39:50.599 --> 00:39:53.199
like you know, a lot of
like weed, Like you can smoke a

652
00:39:53.239 --> 00:39:55.320
little weed and its not gonna kill
you, even if you drink a lot.

653
00:39:55.719 --> 00:39:58.880
You only have a drink, it's
not gonna fucking You're fine. A

654
00:39:58.920 --> 00:40:00.840
drink or two, you're fine.
Like mushrooms, I don't care how many

655
00:40:00.880 --> 00:40:06.199
times you've eating five grams of mushrooms. It'll fuck you up unless you eat

656
00:40:06.199 --> 00:40:07.760
them repeatedly in the days in a
row. Then you got to build the

657
00:40:07.800 --> 00:40:12.880
tolerance up exactly. And that's what
I'm trying to say, is like,

658
00:40:13.000 --> 00:40:15.639
here's my thing, though, is
bet you they ask you questions before you

659
00:40:15.800 --> 00:40:17.719
jump in there. They're not gonna
take some that's never done mushrooms go,

660
00:40:17.840 --> 00:40:22.440
yeah, here's max No. But
I'm saying that's the difficulty behind legalizing it

661
00:40:22.519 --> 00:40:24.320
the way we have with cannabis,
because that's why I think it is smart

662
00:40:24.360 --> 00:40:27.840
to decrim it, because that way
it gets it out of people, because

663
00:40:27.840 --> 00:40:30.119
people shouldn't go to jail for being
using drugs and experimenting with drugs. I

664
00:40:30.119 --> 00:40:32.280
don't believe that in general. I
don't think you should charge people for being

665
00:40:32.360 --> 00:40:36.480
addicts, like because at the end
of the day, like we all go

666
00:40:36.599 --> 00:40:39.480
through struggles and sometimes partying is a
nice release. So I really don't think

667
00:40:39.480 --> 00:40:43.559
you should judge someone for going through
some shit who needs a release, you

668
00:40:43.599 --> 00:40:45.920
know what I mean, if you
want to judge you know, you know,

669
00:40:45.000 --> 00:40:49.079
El Choppo for releasing fetti on the
world, Like let's do that,

670
00:40:49.639 --> 00:40:52.320
like you know what I mean,
allegedly, but I that's what I feel.

671
00:40:52.519 --> 00:40:58.840
But like you know what I mean, so again, fun again.

672
00:40:58.880 --> 00:41:00.519
And I don't mean to put mushroom
in a harder category than we because I

673
00:41:00.559 --> 00:41:04.480
do believe it is all natural and
I don't people. I don't want people

674
00:41:04.519 --> 00:41:07.280
message like, oh you're against mushrooms
now, I fucking love mushrooms. I

675
00:41:07.360 --> 00:41:09.400
love the LSD. I think it's
just very time and place, and it's

676
00:41:09.519 --> 00:41:14.400
very you need to be very ready
for it. And that's the only way

677
00:41:14.440 --> 00:41:16.559
I can say that, because I'd
be scared if someone like imagine if someone

678
00:41:16.760 --> 00:41:20.199
ate like an eighth, it's one
thing, ha ha, you atee an

679
00:41:20.280 --> 00:41:22.239
edible, You're be fucked up for
a little bit. If you accidentally ate

680
00:41:22.280 --> 00:41:27.880
an eighth of mushrooms and you didn't
know, they'd be fucking crazy. I

681
00:41:27.960 --> 00:41:31.280
mean. So it's just a little
it's hard to compare, you know,

682
00:41:31.320 --> 00:41:34.639
because it's kind of apples and oranges
there, you know, But at the

683
00:41:34.639 --> 00:41:36.800
same time, they're very in the
same family. So it's like, well,

684
00:41:36.800 --> 00:41:38.239
they're definitely the same family. I
just think I think the laws have

685
00:41:38.360 --> 00:41:42.960
to be written fairly for the industry
to continue to grow, like you can

686
00:41:43.000 --> 00:41:45.480
have d CRAM. But I also
think if you do push an education like

687
00:41:45.559 --> 00:41:47.960
that's my big thing with education needs
to be huge. That's what the facilitators

688
00:41:49.000 --> 00:41:52.320
I think are there for that.
That's that's huge. And then voices like

689
00:41:52.440 --> 00:41:54.960
us and other parts. We'll stay
with this again Oregon or God, yeah,

690
00:41:55.039 --> 00:41:58.559
that makes sense. They're little ahead. But I think with Michigan and

691
00:41:58.639 --> 00:42:01.320
that would be cool to see some
type like maybe more is like a therapeutic

692
00:42:02.039 --> 00:42:05.679
trip. You know, less is
like a hey, we just like,

693
00:42:06.320 --> 00:42:09.000
hey, everyone can see mushrooms,
like because I think d Krim the people

694
00:42:09.000 --> 00:42:13.000
who are already into mushrooms, it
just allows them to not be in trouble.

695
00:42:13.239 --> 00:42:15.719
I think we jump to legalizing mushrooms. There's none of education on mushrooms

696
00:42:16.400 --> 00:42:20.159
yet in the public. Guy,
I don't know. Yeah, I don't

697
00:42:20.159 --> 00:42:22.719
even write. I don't even think
people up that fast. I don't think

698
00:42:22.760 --> 00:42:25.679
it would. There's no you can't
slow because like people have to understand,

699
00:42:25.719 --> 00:42:30.559
there's different different strains of mushrooms affect
each person differently, different how you intake

700
00:42:30.599 --> 00:42:35.079
it, from eating it to drinking
it to capsule. You know what I'm

701
00:42:35.079 --> 00:42:37.360
saying, Like each way is different. It's going to hit you quicker.

702
00:42:37.440 --> 00:42:40.840
It's it depends on how much is
there, Like so it is going to

703
00:42:40.880 --> 00:42:44.559
be a slower process for it to
happen. But well then you're right,

704
00:42:44.639 --> 00:42:46.280
it's not gonna be as money making. People are more it's more spiritual.

705
00:42:46.320 --> 00:42:50.199
People are macrodosing three or four times
a year. What is that half bounce

706
00:42:50.239 --> 00:42:52.960
over a year, you know what
I mean? You're not buying these large

707
00:42:52.039 --> 00:42:55.039
quantities where people are smoking weed and
all these things. Like I'm just saying,

708
00:42:55.079 --> 00:42:58.960
like, weed don't move faster.
That's why you're Yeah, that's why

709
00:42:59.079 --> 00:43:00.320
it's the one thing I do think
where I think it's going to take off

710
00:43:00.519 --> 00:43:05.880
is the the micro aspect. I
think people but even that's how much mushrooms

711
00:43:05.920 --> 00:43:07.760
you're really eating. You're not eating
ship, you know what I mean,

712
00:43:07.800 --> 00:43:12.480
you're eating even if you're in eighth
a month. You know what I'm saying,

713
00:43:12.639 --> 00:43:15.760
Like, you're eating maybe a quarter
a month, yeah, at max.

714
00:43:15.800 --> 00:43:16.440
So that's what I'm saying, Like, that's why it's not it's not

715
00:43:16.480 --> 00:43:20.800
a cash crop the way cannabis is. It's just more like one of those

716
00:43:20.880 --> 00:43:24.119
things that I think people definitely need
to look into because I think for PTSD

717
00:43:24.480 --> 00:43:27.840
it's like and that's why I don't
want people reach out saying, oh,

718
00:43:27.840 --> 00:43:30.639
you don't like mushrooms. No,
No, I believe mushrooms can save people.

719
00:43:30.920 --> 00:43:34.199
I believe mushrooms kind of saved me
Ship. It wasn't until I was

720
00:43:34.280 --> 00:43:36.280
on a trip that I was like, I want to do audio, like,

721
00:43:36.760 --> 00:43:42.159
you know, regardless of my loan
situation, you know what I mean,

722
00:43:44.920 --> 00:43:47.920
but no, but no, but
for real, sometimes trips really deep

723
00:43:49.199 --> 00:43:52.159
deep dive you inside and like you
guys got people gotta be ready for that.

724
00:43:52.239 --> 00:43:54.519
And I think that is a nice
way to do the therapeutic way,

725
00:43:54.920 --> 00:43:58.199
you know. And I think it's
very nice, like almost like you need

726
00:43:58.280 --> 00:44:00.119
a buddy with you. It's like
those iowas the retreats. You probably have

727
00:44:00.159 --> 00:44:02.960
someone guiding you. And that's cool. But that's just expensive though. Would

728
00:44:02.960 --> 00:44:07.639
you say eight hundred to one thousand
for one trip? It's not like eight

729
00:44:07.719 --> 00:44:09.320
hundred to like fifteen. I think
it's like with you and somebody else and

730
00:44:09.440 --> 00:44:13.960
something like so so expensive man,
it is you're talking. I ate the

731
00:44:14.000 --> 00:44:17.639
mushrooms is thirty to thirty to sixty
dollars, I have max. You're talking.

732
00:44:19.440 --> 00:44:22.679
That's expensive. Man. They're charging
an arm and a leg for that

733
00:44:22.800 --> 00:44:27.000
person to just beat your normal trip
about four hours. Oh no, probably

734
00:44:27.039 --> 00:44:29.199
longer than that. But still,
what is what is a day rate of

735
00:44:29.280 --> 00:44:31.320
someone's pay Like even if you pay
them well, five hundred bucks, so

736
00:44:31.840 --> 00:44:36.239
there are three hundred bucks, four
hundred bucks like yeah, I mean so

737
00:44:36.360 --> 00:44:37.920
maybe they just get paid well and
then the business has to double it.

738
00:44:37.960 --> 00:44:42.280
But still that's expensive. So for
the normal Joe, average Joe, we're

739
00:44:42.320 --> 00:44:45.079
just gonna buy me that have the
places where you can have people grow it,

740
00:44:45.440 --> 00:44:47.960
educate it, sell different strains.
Also have these facilitators where you can

741
00:44:47.960 --> 00:44:52.119
also be able to learn. Do
you think that people will want to move

742
00:44:52.159 --> 00:44:55.159
into a market that isn't the cash
crop? Though? There will definitely be

743
00:44:55.199 --> 00:44:59.360
businesses that will come through, and
I think there will be some that will

744
00:44:59.360 --> 00:45:00.719
be able to make some good profit
off of it, because there are a

745
00:45:00.800 --> 00:45:05.760
lot of people that are talking about
it right now, Like a lot of

746
00:45:05.800 --> 00:45:07.480
people I talk to and I'm like, just just talking about cannabis stuff.

747
00:45:07.480 --> 00:45:14.000
Psilocybin's brought up right after and right
and if one is super see we're starting

748
00:45:14.000 --> 00:45:15.599
to see it spread within states.
We're starting to see it spread within now

749
00:45:15.719 --> 00:45:20.000
cities decrimming it all throughout Michigan.
You we're seeing it on the West go

750
00:45:20.199 --> 00:45:22.599
legal. That means it's going to
be coming here to go go legal here

751
00:45:22.639 --> 00:45:24.559
in the soon too. In my
opinion, I think with the next four

752
00:45:24.639 --> 00:45:28.519
years, much as will probably be
legal here in Michigan. And honestly,

753
00:45:28.519 --> 00:45:31.239
it wouldn't be a bad business think
about it, because like if you do

754
00:45:31.400 --> 00:45:35.840
do the education and then you maybe
you maybe you make chocolate with it,

755
00:45:35.920 --> 00:45:37.440
maybe you do the capsule form,
like I think you'll be able to sell

756
00:45:37.599 --> 00:45:42.000
a variety and that's where you can
make some money. I don't think it's

757
00:45:42.000 --> 00:45:44.639
going to be like I don't know
how much people are making right now in

758
00:45:44.679 --> 00:45:46.519
cannabis. You know some people are. It will be used to be that

759
00:45:46.599 --> 00:45:50.480
will be more competitive, like only
the good people who know what they're doing

760
00:45:50.760 --> 00:45:53.000
will be out there, the people
who don't know. I don't think.

761
00:45:53.920 --> 00:45:57.599
Yeah, I don't keep it the
last. So in time, I think

762
00:45:57.639 --> 00:46:00.360
though it will be, it will
be popping. We'll be talking more about

763
00:46:00.360 --> 00:46:02.159
So I've been here too. I
think I want to start bringing it up

764
00:46:02.199 --> 00:46:05.039
more. But I have been.
I've been doing some chocolate a little bit

765
00:46:05.119 --> 00:46:08.159
here or there. But nice too, yeah nice. I mean hey,

766
00:46:08.199 --> 00:46:09.960
every once in a while, I
do like the micro. But when I

767
00:46:10.079 --> 00:46:13.159
micro, I'm taking like a half
gram to a gram because I want to

768
00:46:13.199 --> 00:46:15.239
feel it. I just don't want
to have some deep intro perspective. So

769
00:46:15.280 --> 00:46:17.800
sometimes when I eat about a gram, it's like perfect because I've done that

770
00:46:17.920 --> 00:46:22.239
deep deep dive a lot, so
I'm just like sometimes I'm looking for it.

771
00:46:22.320 --> 00:46:25.239
Sometimes I'm not. I like the
gram Like when when you do about

772
00:46:25.239 --> 00:46:28.079
a Grammy, get a little bit
of the visuals, you get a little

773
00:46:28.079 --> 00:46:30.880
bit of the staring off and you're
like, okay, good yeah, but

774
00:46:30.920 --> 00:46:34.519
anyways, yeah, man, MI
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779
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780
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789
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794
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795
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796
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bless you can thank you, thank
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797
00:47:55.960 --> 00:48:02.880
sneeze again, hold on, no, okay, okay, I inspire all

798
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that time, all right, and
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799
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