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we're looking back on this year and getting ready for twenty twenty four, I
was thinking, you know, People magazine does the sexiest person of the year.
Time Magazine does the person of the Year. I think Billified had some
pretty interesting people interact with them this year. I'm like gonna say the most
interesting person, but these are some, not all, some of Billified's most
interesting people of twenty twenty three. They're not all three one fivers, but
we'll start out with a three to one fiver. Does anybody remember Tom Patterson
who made it into the Times of Wayne County he's from Newark, because he
sent one hundred and seventy eight aggressive text messages. Damn, my thumb's hurt
just thinking about it. Here's Tom Patterson the Times of Wayne County where they
do the head scratchers section, right in their law and Order section. He
saw they have the head scratchers and this title says one hundred and seventy eight
aggressive messages. Later that was what it was. And they have the picture
of what looks like a very friendly, happy guy. And I'm going,
something isn't adding up here. Just from the headline in the picture. That's
my first thought when I looked at this. It says state troopers out of
Wolket. You have to say it like that, wilk that's wicked, don't
you, don't you? You have to say it like that. They reported
the arrest on Monday, May first, May Day, May Day of Tom
Patterson. Thomas A. Patterson. He's sixty eight and he lives in Newark.
Maybe he knows Race and Randy. I don't know. It's a leege
that Patterson sent one hundred and seventy eight aggressive messages to the man his daughter
is residing with in the town day, not one day, not one day.
Well, hold on, Tom, let me let me finish the article,
and then you get to say whatever you want. Okay, okay,
as long as that's fair, all right. So one hundred and seventy eight
aggressive messages the man his daughter is resigning with in the towness event on April
twenty fourth, Patterson was charged with aggravated harassment in the second degree and taken
to CAP Court for arraignment. I think that's I don't know what CAP stands
for, actually child something, child adel protection, I don't know. He
was released to appear in Savannah town Court. Sounds lovely, with a court
order of protection for the victim. Now, what would you think a man's
his daughter residing with a man in the town of Savannah and he sent one
hundred and seventy eight aggressive messages? What do you think, Danny? Before
mister Patterson actually explains anything, what do you what? What's the first thing
that comes to mind? That this chicks shack it up with him? Yeah,
and uh, this follower is being protective. Yeah, he's being protective.
That's what I thought too. Mark, do you do you think the
same thing? Well, yeah, I'm thinking that that he's way older than
her. I'm thinking that there's the guy's way older than the girl, older
than the girl. Yeah right, yeah. And the thing I thought,
Matt, same thing kind of thinking. Yeah, I'm thinking maybe abusive.
Okay, because I thought when the whole Britney Spears thing went down, I
was one of the few because that you saw all the documentaries, and I
go, I can't deny that watching the documentary, maybe she was taking advantage.
But I go, why do I feel like? I don't think people
are going to have her best interest at heart? And today, and I've
said this, she looks like the afternoon stripper at the club. She's like
spinning around. She looks like that crazy broad that they only put on at
four o'clock in the afternoon in this and home, you know what I mean?
And I go, maybe her dad knew something, something more than the
rest of us. And apparently she's got an autobiography coming out and people are
sweating. All right, mister Patterson, when was the last time you texted
anybody? Just before you go all right, good, all right, I
do have to first of all, I do want to say that I did
not initiate this call. I have waited twelve years and given ample warnings.
You know, it's saying like you know, it's going to balloon eventually,
someday it's going to be questions. Yeah, dumper heels in and but anyway,
here it is. The whole thing is, Yeah, you're starting Wait,
hang on a second, why don't get away. Yeah, I'm gonna
lead you. I'm gonna lead you questions because you almost came right into the
middle of the conversation, like you started in the middle. No one knew
them many so let me let me that's okay, Well, so why don't
we walk through this? So your daughter is seventeen, but let me qualify
this the man she's living with, uh regards to night House, it's her
mother's boy said, Well, I thought over said, but when I lose
the police thing, I find out that they are married. Okay, all
right, so time so all right, so time out here? All right,
So let's back up a little bit, because yeah, you're getting ahead
of me. So when you and I I saw a post that you put
up. Let me read the post that you put up on Facebook. Okay,
do you mind. That's why I put up on Facebook. You put
it up on Yeah, got arrested. Got arrested because a fifty one year
old man refused me access to my seventeen year old daughter. Aggressive messages question
mark assertive for certain but ramped up to aggressive when cowards and bullies are called
out. It appears I'm this young woman's father. Yet this cowardly turd has
interfered since December, and I haven't seen nor spoken to her since. Now
you wrote December twenty sixth, twenty twenty three. That's a date that hasn't
happened yet. Oh, I'm sorry, last Chris, the day after last.
That's that's what I thought. That's that's why I thought the cops failed.
That's okay. The cops failed to do a visual check for me too,
meaning to take a look at the daughter. And I don't understand this
line, and I stub my tone was denied medical attention, you know what.
I'd rather not get into that here. Okay, that's fine, that's
why. All right, let's just such for people involved in that. So
let's just stupid. Let's just stick to this. So you're why does your
wife I assume you're separated or divorced. You're divorced, okay, and your
daughter has had has been. Who has custody or do you have joint custody?
She does, she has custody. She has custody, but you know
does all that stuff. And there were rules in the past, but they've
all been lapped, you know, and sloppily is just allowed to fly.
And the seventeen year old is the only child you have with this woman,
No, you have other children with her. I have an older son with
with the with the wife that you're divorced from. Yes, so both kids
say mom, yes, okay. Just want to make sure that sometimes it
could be multiple right. Uh so what happened with does your daughter not want
to see you anymore? She's refusing to come see you? Uh yes,
yes, so I have and verbally speak to me. She tested for a
short while then just cutting me off, boxing social media nothing. Why do
you think that is because the third have the word in that house? Apparently
the word? Yeah, I made that up myself. No, it's pretty
good, you sprise. I'm sitting here looking at my sad flitter box that
I had visual ways, so it's not really creative. It was just what
I was looking at. Yeah, why is uh at the road break?
I could tell you he's one of those guys, you know, he likes
waiting get to the door, and then he's tell you things he liked to
hear, and then you know, trying to split people. And guy,
do you know if you do this with your daddy, it's going to make
your mom stand that kind of you know what I'm talking about. You know,
Yeah, it sounds like it's a little bit of manipulation. Yeah,
but see, the the problem is though, that you don't want to get
yourself arrested because now there's an order of protection and you can't. You can't
even get close to your daughter now, right, we sure can. It's
just a stay away order from him. Oh, it's just I got I'm
gonna tell you this is pretty convoy. I was going to say complicated,
but most of it just kind of fell together like serendipity or out of whatever.
I don't even know what that means. But anyway, I've just been
waiting this whole time, you know, for a chance. I mean even
I was started smoking weed with this dude, you know, because to get
close to her, well, you started smoking weed with your daughter to get
close to her. Oh, the guy with him, you and the turd.
Yeah, so you way, Maybe that's not the best way to get
close to the guy because he's very he's very, very suspicient. So you
got to like work. I used to give him like little gifts they would
get. I started off by. He has like a little porch thing.
He's just sit out there. I'll buntle up like eaven this oil heaters that
I actually thought when I was homeless after they threw me out of my house,
just stay warm living in Bob Page's back room. I'm oh, Bob
Page is a wonderful Yeah, it's very loving that guy. No, I
don't know Bob. I don't know Bob, but he sounds like a nice
guy. Anything. But listen here, hey, hang on, hang on.
As your lawyer, I'm going to tell you to stop talking because you're
not doing yourself any favors. Right now, stop really stop talking because you're
not doing yourself any favors. Well you're saying when you're talking about Yes,
I haven't believe I haven't mentioned any names. No, no, no,
no no. But what I'm saying is for yourself, like your daughter is
seventeen, right, so she's is she at the age where she can kind
of make her own decisions? I don't know where the court liks. So
she is absolutely No, No, she's one hundred percent uh capable. Yes,
I mean high honor roll and school. No, I don't. I
don't mean that you're you're missing my point legally? Can she say I don't
want to see my daddy? Yes? Okay? And how's the relationship with
your son who's older? It w was good U until until what uh this
started to pick up steam with them? Yeah? And then I mean two
weeks ago I went to see John Wick and with him and right after that
no contact. Okay. So I just want to know something. One hundred
and seventy eight text messages. What kind of plan do you have? Well?
Meticulous? All right? So but why did I why included plam?
If you read the things to something about nowhere in here did the indicating he
had any reasons come here? That's another lie, because in there said I
am coming over to collect these items and giving you a rench over the years,
including the going a bush that you dug out of my shards and stold
Okay, twelve years ago I think I think you gotta. I think you
gotta like you need to. Here's the problem. You gotta control your emotions.
Tending one hundred and seventy eight text message isn't going to help your cause.
Yeah, but he probably only understood maybe five or six of it.
This conversation is going. No, he just like take someone and finds a
way to turn it around back on me somehow. Now, so see,
now I have to make him abuse it. But let me well see that
that's your mistake. Is he's beating you. You realize that he's beating his
hands. I couldn't get them to confess. So now I parked. I
wouldn't even park in Further's house. I parked down the street. Okay,
well, what do they Now? I have to go to court. Now
I have to go to court. Yea, And now I have to say
you're honored? May I be heard on this? Patterson? And mister Patterson,
hang on a second? What why were you going over there kissing?
Okay, but and I told him that. Yeah, but but your daughter
they didn't want you on their property, and they property, and she doesn't
want to see you. I didn't I wasn't told that by her. Okay,
all right, Well, see I don't have any daughters, and I
hear teenage girls can be kind of tough. I don't know. I don't
have any daughters, daughters one, but twelve girls. Got a twelve girl
tough. I'm going to get defensive about this because they are my children,
of your children. But I think you're going to wind up losing because every
time you go over somebody's going to start making, you know, accusations or
claims, and actually nobody lets me finish. That's why I never Yeah,
my I went over there. I parked down the street to provoke one of
two things him to either confess in front of the kids, or for him
to call a police so I could get a rest, so I could get
this out in the fucking open. Yeah, and here it is, and
let me finish. Sixteen years old health issues. They took my home,
my property, and money. I have no hometown, I have no family.
What do I got to lose? What are they gonna do. I'm
a sixty eight year old man with health issues. But I'll get a guest
job, community service weekends. Fucking yeah, you know. And the thing
is, I have to tell you something right now. I played sports for
a long time with a team that never fucking quit once once, and I'm
not going to quit. Okay, Now here's what I'm hearing. I'm hearing
a guy who's down to the last straw that loves his kids and just wants
to see his daughter. Damn, it's great, man. That's one hundred
fucking percent what it is. And I want a professional evaluations to make sure
that they have not been coerced, manipulated, machia belly eyes and that's another
word I just made up. You didn't, Yeah, yeah, all right,
but let's say you don't want you hear me what it is. It's
a It's that existential need that I had for the world to be responsible.
All right, Hey, I want to ask you two questions. What what
are you accusing the turd of? When you're saying you want the turd to
confess? What do you want him to confess to? What is he confessing
to? Uh? How they disposed of me? How they disposed of you?
Yeah, you realize now, Please don't take this the wrong way.
And a friend of yours reached out to me and said such one really nice
things about you, And I told you. I wasn't going to be rude
or anything, because I actually I could kind of see that there was something
going on here where it felt to me like it was a guy trying to
protect his daughter, as we said when we started. But you come up
started off. Oh, absolutely right. But because I want to get this
turn back. Yeah, but because of a lot of things, I was
in no position physically, emotionally, financially or anything to do it. Plus
I was bought so many contacts, so I had to like reenact like some
bad Steven Segale movie where I laid the comb and then came out like yeah,
but here's the problem, Patterson. You come off I mean this.
I mean this in the nicest way, and I want you to really hear
me. You come off a little crazy. I do know well that,
but that's not going to that's not going to help you, my friend.
That's That's what I'm trying to say to you, is if you can just
try to control the emotions. It sounds like you've had a whole lot of
have you been listening though? How long have I been? How long have
I been controlling my emotions? The entire conversation? But but no, no,
no in this situation though it sounds it sounds like it sounds like years,
sounds like it's been like twelve years. Well, hear what we meant.
And now because of this ramped up crap coming from them where they clamped
down on the on their conversation, I have full access to them, but
now they don't want to see me because someone's in their ear. All right,
Well, okay, you're right, you're right, You're absolutely right.
I was talking about this with my counselor. Yeah, but I back.
Yeah, well, listen, I got a lot I get it. But
you talk about being in failing health. Is your health declining? You know,
let's not get that. All right, Well, the only reason I'm
asking is because it sounds like you really want to see your kids and that
that sounds like something that should be able to happen. But maybe I don't
know, if you can be a little nicer. It sounds like you've you've
been dealing with a lot of shit for a long time. Yeah, yeah,
all right, Well, I just feel like, you know, I'm
sure there are people who are going to recognize this feeling. We just feel
invisible. Yeah, under the word yeah, And that's the life I've been
living. And then I hold it, hold it and hold it in then
not you know, so long ago, all of a sudden, I just
it's exploded in me. Well, what I'm going to make a suggestion.
I'm going to make a suggestion and then we'll and then we'll we'll hang up
here. Okay, what my suggestion would be. I assume at seventeen,
your daughters has her own phone. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
okay, yeah, so one, but yeah, why don't you just
text her? And I'm blocked? You're blocked? You're blocked? Are you
blocked from your ex wife? Everything? All social media? Everything? I
have no time, all right, but hang on? Are you blocked by
your ex wife? I don't know. My ex wife sent me the message
that said your daughter blocked you. Okay, it won't make your fun to
it too. Okay, Well, why don't you just send a message like
when you can calm down? It can only be really simple to to probably
your ex wife she brought. Well that's what I asked. All I was
going to say, is said somebody a text just saying the bottom line is
I love you, and end it there, and then it's in their court
and you don't act a little. What they can deem is goofy. Then
I think maybe you'll be You'll get to talk to her again, because I'm
sorry, you sound like you're in a lot of p I am. I
am, And to thank you for recognizing that. Well you seem like a
nice guy. That that picture of you, you just look like a happy
guy. Well, oh is that the cop call most people the cop?
No? No, no, not for you, not for you, Not
for you. We have another interview coming up. Not for you, mister
Patterson. Promise, Joe. I know you got to go. But what
are your names? What you're uh? So the name of the podcast?
So I can contact you in case? Why don't you keep contacting me through
Facebook? I respond to you. No, I know you do. Yeah,
and I appreciate to reach it out like that. Well we'll talk whoever
contacted you. I don't want to know. No, I read it.
Oh oh the person that they were very nice. They said nice things about
you. That's all I wanted to say. Okay, so I'm going to
be able to nail that down. So okay, yeah, there's only like
one or two people that says nice things. Try to tell me here all
right, mister Patterson, I hope things get better for you. Hey,
guys, thanks, and I hope you guys everything goes well for you and
yours well. Thank you, well, thank you. I appreciate that.
Thank you, all right, bye bye. Thanks. Not how I thought
that was going to go the fucking Riddler or what well more sun Zoo.
It was like the male version of Gussie. It's tough when you're going through
that ship with your kids, and divorces make it bad and x ys can
make it bad. And then when you try to get close by smoking pop
with wanted to ask him shot. I'm saying twelve years. I didn't want
to step on any toes for twelve years. He's known this guy. So
was this like the ex wife's new husband and now all of a sudden he's
with a daughter. And we didn't get to that point. So I don't
know, Like I was thinking of three one five twist and ship. Yeah,
I don't think it went there. No, I would have said that
probably right. Yeah, I think he's just being blocked by the daughter,
and I think he does crazy ship and he and he kind of and he
snapped right, and this guy he then he finds out that his ex wife
married him, married the guy, and I don't know anyway, I felt
bad someone. Yeah, twelve years ago he did not forget about. I
didn't really want to get this guy anymore. Upset he was pretty. He
started to get emotional, yeah, or confusing. Been in that spot there
where my ex wouldn't let me talk to my kids for months and it was
very hard. So I get where he's upset, and and yep, you're
gonna lose your ship. And unfortunately, the more you lose your ship is
stupid. You look. Matt Race's right. As an adult, the most
important thing I think you can do is learn to control your emotions. Tom
Patterson, he needs to do that. Book. One of the most interesting
Bilified people of twenty twenty three. Do you remember Victoria? Victoria had an
incident in Walmart with an employee and a bag of rice. If you don't
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the most interesting vilified people of twenty twenty three. Do you remember Victoria?
She was arrested for slapping an employee across the face with an item from the
store. That's not exactly what happened. We'll here Victoria tell us and billified.
It's most interesting people of twenty twenty three. Speaking to me, your
phone told me I could call hello, Victoria, how are you can?
This is the podcast that I had sent you a message earlier. My name
is Bill, Hello, and I've got Mark here and Matt here and Kevin
here, and we were just talking about different people and fights at sporting events
and then I said, there was a story of the Times Wayne County of
this young girl. And when I looked it up, don't you didn't look
hardened enough to punch an employee. You look like just a sweet kid.
I actually, this is where the story she takes it out of the saying
I didn't even punct her. I slapped her with a bag of rice.
I feel like I should thirteen right there. Well, and now the Times
Wayne County dropped the ball on that one. I actually made a status and
I said, Wow, they gave me more props than I deserve. Reporter
Dan Brella on the story. So, all right, so you said I
did what I did. Why did you do what you did? Uh?
She called me broke for want to exchange the flavor? Change the flavor of
what the rice? It was a bag of rice. I didn't know rice
had flavor. Well, you could get jack the nor whatever the dollar.
Yeah. Oh okay, Oh so you're broke ass up there the rice.
Victoria. I'm kidding you. You're good. You're good. I'm laughing at
it. So Victoria, she called you broke to your face? What did
she say? Yeah? I was already walking halfway down the front of the
thing, and as I was walking away, she said, I don't know
what customer that broke to come to exchange a dollar flavor instead of just buying
a whole new one. You were bringing it back. But all you want,
well, why couldn't you just exchange the flavor? I get it?
She told me to drive to the store I work at. You work at
Walmart? Yeah? I do, I do? I do. Did she
know you worked for a different Walmart? Yeah? Oh she did. So
do you know this person? No? And so you just you just went
upside her head with a bag of rice. Yep, I mean, did
it knock her over? NOA what's a dollar? Yeah? Like, there's
my question. You know, I kind of want to know this. Why
did you have to exchange it? Why didn't you just keep it and get
the other one? Because he's broke, broke because she works at walm didn't?
Yeah, we get the same paycheck to that, So why why did
as your paycheck's probably lot better than mine, why why didn't you take it
to the Walmart you work at? Then I'm not driving thirty minutes to go
get a different flavor from my kids? Oh so these are for your kids?
Ridiculous. Yes, yes, I got you. How old are your
kids? Five? Two and ten months old? Wait a second, you're
twenty four? Yep? Yeah, five two? I got busy, I
guess, so you need to work more at Walmart? Okay, so in
tonights and three five? Are you? Are you? Is there a daddy
in their lives in your house? Yeah? Yeah? Oh so you live
with their dad? Yeah? Are you married? No? No, not
that lucky. So are all the kids if you were? All the kids
his? Yeah they are if he doesn't give your ringing to slap him upside
to have a little beggar rice. So I'm about to now did I see
something? And I don't mean to get too personal, but I did find
you on Facebook. That's how I messaged you. Did connect? And did
I see something about you, like losing a ton of weight or something?
Yeah? You got down to eighty four pounds? Yeah, you better get
two bags of rice from you know? Yeah? I know? Why were
you down to eighty four pounds? Stress? Yeah? What's going on in
here? You're twenty four years old, got three kids and needs rice.
That's a lot of fucking stress. And get married. Go'st a lot of
stress, right, there. I feel bad at twenty four that you got
down, because that's not healthy. How much did you normally weigh? Like
one one thirty? How tall are you? Fifty pounds? That's you?
Yeah, that's a lot to lose five to two. So, boy,
that's a lot. You want to look like a cancer patient or something.
I don't be no, no, seriously, it was bad. Yeah,
why what happened? I'm not mean to do that. Now you're facetiming me.
I didn't mean it. I want to see her. Let's say,
oh your kid hit it, so listen, listen. All right, Well
I don't want to take up too much of your time then, But so
what's going to happen now that you put on? Did you put on some
weight from eighty four pounds? I'm actually still going through it, but yeah,
it's a process. What are you up to? I've honestly went up
only like fifteen But that's okay. So you're over, you're over? Are
you over one hundred? Now? Yeah? All right, that's good.
That's featherweight. We got featherweight in the rice division. See long way to
go to two forty five? Honey, I'm gonna need the whole box so
that's you're gonna need the whole box of that shit. Yeah, I think
you probably will. So did they bring you up on charges or anything or
no? Yeah, yeah, it's harassment. No. I got dropped down
the harassment in the second because when they pulled the videotape, they seen that
I smack her with the bag of rice, and I didn't punch her in
the face. So she's a hypochondria. Oh how old was this person that
you hit? Twice my age? So she's like forty eight years old?
Huh probably, but she's probably like thirty forty, thirty forty she go down.
No, No, thos are small. Yeah yeah, So I mean,
would you do it again? So did you you marched the when hang
on and say, I'm sorry to interrupt their Matt you if I'm picturing this
right, you're walking away to go get the other flavor of rice you want
to exchange. Would that be correct? Oh? No, she wasn't even
gonna let me do it. So I was walking out the store to say
her, you know, fuck it, okay, whatever you want to be
like that, and that's when she I'm already walking away. She started running
her lips and as a customer service manager of CSM. You shouldn't be talking
to a customer like that. Yeah, so then you turned around and said,
well fuck you, and you're so I was on the wrong type of
time that day. Yeah, I guess. So here's the wrong type of
time. I liked that. I did too. I've never heard that phrase.
I'm trying to see what the woman looks like. I guarantee I have
it in my head. I guarantee was oh the woman that got hit.
Yeah, she was three hundred pounds, right, Victoria. Oh No,
she wasn't that heavy she was on Yeah. No, honestly, she's probably
about my weight. Did she look like she came from a trailer park?
I wish. No, she she's pretty. I guess you could just say
she got money whatever. I'm sure her husband takes care of her whatever.
She's not like a bad looking lady, Victoria. I'm showing your pro Victoria.
I'm showing your Facebook page to the guys on the show. Here,
okay, so they can say, as you're single, are you single then?
Or no? No? No, when he express complicated, when he
when he acts right? So do you how many times have you had trouble
with the law in your life. Oh, this is actually my second,
your second? What was the first? I was under twenty one and it
was something stupid animal. I got caught up with some friends and got conspiracy
conspiracy to do what? Uh? They were doing some dumb ship and I
was the driver, so they were stealing stuff. They were here the getaway
driver. Yeah, and what I didn't even know at Yeah, and they
caught him. Huh? You three one five? You threw one fiver?
Is gonna work on your your getaway better? I wasn't even no one,
Missmith. Well you know, if you look it up, I'll never be
seen for that because it's not something you know. Yeah, well, Victoria,
what's the next step? Do you have to go to court or it's
all done? Yeah? No, on the fourth I go to court.
But I got the same attorney actually for my victory charge. So okay,
he's a real one. Who's the lawyer? His name is David Kang.
Okay, it's pretty awesome. Actually, I'm just thinking of a bit a
lot cheaper just to buy the other bag of race. I agree, more
SATISFI when you could have exchanged the other one when you went back to work
one day, right, so pretty much, Victoria, what mass saying is
not kind of agree with this kind this is all kind of your fault.
More satisfied, spackaball. I don't blame her for slapping her when she said
that, though, and Victoria has owned it a little bit. She she
wrote me and said yeah, uh she said. Instead she called me broke
and insisted I buy a whole other one instead of exchanging. She has the
power. I did what I did. Yeah, it was wrong to hit
her, but I came in as a customer trying to exchange, So I
would say the most important thing any adult can do is learn to control their
emotions. Not always easy, but that's I'm guessing her boyfriend pissed her off
before she went to this stll oh yes, oh yeah, right before you
walked in too. That's even worse. What did he say? What happened?
Just throw a bunch of crap? He got three kids, busy,
and he was busy and kind of busy, busy playing video games. He
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right, I don't know David Kang. Okay, well, Victoria chair Victoria
Kang is the same sound a jail cell makes. Maybe don King is a
better choice for her. All right, Victoria, I appreciate you talking to
us. You have a great sense of humor about it all. And I'm
glad we know that that the person got hit with a bag of rice.
Keep us updated this. I'm stupid and funny so laughing over. Victoria is
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met her because she did something that was dangerous all in the name of a
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it. You just flew by. We were doing Billified's Most Interesting People of
twenty twenty three. But I think next year we have to crown Billified's most
Interesting person. It would be hard to do, especially if we have more
people like it's Tabitha who went above and beyond to save a dog, It's
Bilified It's most Interesting People of twenty twenty three. But there was something that
happened today and I happened to see it on the news and there wasn't a
whole lot there. My first thing was I go, oh, I'm gonna
talk about this because none of the news stations had a lot of information about
it. It was about someone having their dog stolen, and it looked like
it was a French bull dog, a really beautiful all one color gray,
like a light gray, just a unique looking French bulldog. Now, don't
forget, wasn't it Lady Gaga or somebody's dog walker got jumped years ago and
someone trying to steal the French bulldogs that they had, So I know that
there's value to these dogs. And then I'm watching all this and they don't,
so they're saying it's being investigated in all this, and I go,
I wonder if some of this is trumped up and made up, Like is
this a story that got greater later? I don't know. So then I'm
trying to find out, well, who's involved, and one of the TV
stations I think it was Channel eight had put underneath they gave credit to its
Tabitha on Facebook. Well, it happens to be Tabitha's dog that got stolen.
So then I start watching the video. This is the craziest shit I
have seen in a long time. Tabitha is holding on to the side of
the truck as this woman is driving away with her dog that she I guess
stole right out of her hands. Oh my, She's holding on to the
truck being like, how far did you go? Tabitha? Probably about a
quarter mile down the road. Huh, that's a that's a ways. It's
like football field. Like when it when it snows in Rochester to do it
with something called I think it was called skating, or you would hold on
to a bumper and just on on your shoes when the roads were covered with
snow and stuff. You would hold onto the bumper of a car going slow
down through a City Street. Yeah, my brothers did it almost died?
Yeah? Really, I'm not joking. Yeah, so what happened, Tabitha,
because this story is bizarre. And by the way, that dog is
beautiful and how holds the dog? Let's start there. She's totally it's a
is it a French bulldog? Yes, she's a frenchie. It's a beautiful
friend. Yeah, pure, I mean, but it's all I've never seen
one that color. Yeah, she's all solid one color. You said they
have little white patches, but nope, she's solid gray from the heads to
toe. Yeah. Beautiful dog. Beautiful dog. And I would assume itensive.
Yes, she's very expensive. Yeah, I mean, because you know
these things are around like twenty five hundred. Yeah. Is that about a
right number? Can I give me if I'm in the ballpark? Twenty five
hundred dollars Normally a dog her color would be five thousand dollars? Who?
Okay? All right, So I was I was off by half. I
could see when I wanted to steal it. Yeah, yeah, I got
so, Tabitha. Here's what I thought. I didn't know if like the
person who And here's where I thought. I thought, Tabitha bought this dog,
and the owner who sold it to her was going to keep the money
and stole the dog back. That's that's what I was thinking, was where
the fish was on this story. But Tabitha wrote me and said she got
the dog back. So tell us the whole story. How did the dog
get, you know, taken out of your hand? How did you what
the hell was going through your mind as you're being dragged a quarter mile?
Okay? So at first I walked into the corner store and I bought the
items that I was buying, and then I walked out. I will notice
like there was a truck park towards the side. I didn't really think much
of it, like I was being aware of my surroundings and were of the
dog or the dog on a leash. I was carrying her in my arms,
and I kind of walked by this truck and she said something. So
I walked to the other side of the truck. I couldn't really hear what
she was saying, and I was like what, and she said, cute
dog. And another female was walking by at the time also was talking about
garbage or something. So I like turned my head and when I turned my
head she tried to reach and grabbed the dog out my arms, like I
felt her touching me. I immediately looked over and she I jumped tried to
jump in the passenger the driver's side of her car with her, Like you're
taking my dog, You're gonna take me with you? Okay, So you
tried to jump in the passenger side of the car. No, the driver's
side, Yeah you did. I saw you. You were whole and on
because the woman's window had to be down. Yeah, because it was down.
Yeah, the way she's holding on the windows, it was it was
pretty cold, and I go, yeah, nipple out there. She she
has one of those things you call an oh shit handle. Oh yeah,
yeah, yeah, okay inside the car yeah, inside the car, right,
But she could have you know what she could have done, Tabatha is
roll up the window and pinched your arm. I don't know if the window
would have went up at that point. I had so much pressure and I
was I tried to grab under her wheel and like pull the wheel. I
had both my arms inside her car, so like when I tried to like
pull the wheel, she kind of was going towards another car. So I
let go of the wheel and then that's when she hit me as an unknown
object about a quarter mile down the road. I don't know, It's like
a black object, and it knocked me out. I woke up like rolling
down the road and I looked and the car was gone. So I kind
of think it knocks me out for a second. Yeah, I can imagine.
Well, what did you where? Did she hit you? Right in
the top of my forehead, right at the temple? Yeah, So you
think you think it was like a It could have been her phone, could
a bat phone. I thought it was a gun at first, but it
wasn't the shape of it. But it was a dark object. Could have
been a cane because she was in a full body cast a couple of weeks
ago. Who was this lady that stole the dog? Do you know her?
No? But I did so much investigating today that I got her personal
cell phone number and I called her up and said, even offered her a
thousand dollars for the dog. Are you hurting for money? I'll give you
a thousand dollars for my dog? And she said, listen, I don't
know what I did this morning. I wasn't thinking. She said, I
don't have your dog, but if I don't get in trouble and don't get
arrested for this, I will return your dog. And she honestly she did.
She brought it right. So the store dropped her off on the counter
and walked away. There was an unknown person though I was sitting behind the
counter, but I didn't want them to see that I was sitting there.
Oh, I didn't recognize the lady at all. It wasn't the one that
stole it from me that dropped her off, And an anonymous person dropped her
off, So she might have had a psychotic episode, maybe episode when I
drugged. I think she she was high on drugs, because you're not going
to steal a five thousand dollars dog. Well, I'm thinking that this woman
had no idea how much that dog was valued at that's that's probably not Yeah,
I think there's no knowledge there because if I don't think she's ever met
a crazy white girl before. Because me, when danger happens, I'm ready
to hit it head on like normal person would have ran away. I'm jumping
in the car. You gotta see the video. The video is the greatest.
This is on your on your Facebook page, And can I tell people
to go to. It's Tabitha Itz Tabitha. Yes, you can, all
right, check well I already did, uh check it out. But you
got to see her. She's holding onto this thing. Who was the other
person that was walking up to the car, did you? Was a random
lady. I don't know her, but she's known to be around here.
It's call her mama. I don't know who the woman who stole you?
Help me trying to help you? Yes, it looked like somebody was walking
up to help you. And this was like one of those cars where the
front is it looked like it might have been a Dodge Ram. It was
all red, but the back panels over the over the bed along the bed
were black, and then the tailgate was TM. Yeah, I mean this
is where you just I drove a Dodge Ram in high school, so I
know exactly what you're talking about. You know what ross the trailer hitches?
One color is another color. It's better than just shitty bondo. Yeah,
right, exactly. Everything's held together by gorilla glue. But man, I
mean, and how banged up are you after rolling down the highway? Not
too bad. I took a pretty good beat in, but I wasn't given
up without a fight. Did you go to the hospital at all? No?
I first all day driving around, I was I wanted to find my
baby. Yeah, that's a very scary thing to have happened to you,
and then for you to fight back. How many fights have you been in
your life, Tabitha? Before you answer that, or you answer, Tabitha,
we have to have an over Let's just say like six and a half,
six and a half, I'm gonna say we got to go back.
Her whole life had at least eight fights, eight legitimate fights, which may
be more than Jake Paul. I don't know, all right, Tabitha,
going my husband's sitting next to me, says about fifteen. Wow, really,
Tabitha, what's going on? Yeah? What do you fight? Though?
I don't know. I have no fear, I guess so, and
no filter. I can't watch my mouth. Really, what what do you
say? Give me an example of something you've said that started a fight.
I'm broad Ridge, What the fuck are you doing? The fuck out my
way? Have you ever gotten into would on on where you both pulled off
to the side of the road and you got into a physical fight. Yeah,
what's your sign? I'm a virgo Augus, an August virgo, so
you're late August. Yeah. Uh, did you win your fights or do
you lose your fights? I've had my fair sheriff had a couple of women
being beat me up a couple of times, but the majority of them.
I'm a tough cookie, cookie, I put up a good fight. I
can tell you that watching you get dragged by that truck, I knew you
were a tough cookie. I mean that was that was crazy because you really
you could have been killed like you could have. I'm glad you're alive too,
But that that that's really the thing, and I understand it. Look,
you just you have one thing on your mind, and that's getting your
dog back, and you would do that. Let me ask you this,
had that woman taken one of your five kids, would you have fought as
hard to get the kid back? I would have took a car and smashed
into her my children. Yeah, yep, that's right. I probably would
have fought a little harder. Okay, I'm just just jacket. I'm just
checking. You know. Some people love dogs. So now you got your
dog back, are you gonna are you gonna try to like get this woman
prosecuted. I don't want to press charges at all. Yeah, okay,
I want, I want. I wanted my baby and I just I wanted
her, that's all. Will you have the dog micro chipped? Now?
No, I'm gonna go get her microchip this week, though, you are,
okay, that's what I mean. You'll have her microchip? Sure,
yes, I am definitely. I'm not even gonna take her outside. I
bought some puppy pats on the way home because I'm scared to take her out.
Now. Oh, I don't blame you. That's how the dog any
christ is going to control the dogs. Billy with the micro chips that is
yeah. I mean, what a joker with what they want to know where
their human is. But I can't imagine that. You're like, somebody says
cute dog, you go over because most people who say cute dog, they
want to pet it. You want to socialize the dog with people, you
do, so it just seems like a normal. And then he tried to
pet her and I was like, don't touch her. She hasn't had her
vaccines yet. I don't want nobody close to her. And that's where she
was thinking. I was going to all here, hold my dogs. He's
going to take off. I'm thinking, okay, man, what a racket?
That what? She white? The wrong white girl? Yes? Crazy,
Yeah, I'm getting that impression when when women fight, What is the
first thing you're going for the the side chin piece? Oh, you're trying
to punch them in the in the side of the chain. Knockout, knockout.
I would have guessed the eyes. Yeah, I don't know them,
could hair, Yes, that's right. Yeah, I'm not for that.
I want to stand up and box. Do you want to box? Have
you ever boxed? Yeah? When I was younger, I used to box
with like my friends and stuff were fun, but not specially you never did
it at Baden Street or anything. No, no, no. I grew
up in Hilton, so okay, all right, Well I instruct boxing classes.
Okay, So if you ever want to come, you ever want to
get one, reach out to me on Facebook. I'll let you. We'll
bring in okay, perfect. I think I should take some classes. I
don't lot of anger built up this corner. She's a virgo. I love
that lady. Yeah, gotta ask what that was meant for her, because
she was like dragging me down the road. I was hitting her with anything
I could, like, I think I put some fear in her. Oh
so you you beat her pretty good? Yeah, I was hitting her too.
She was trying to like drive down the sile of the road. What
road was this off of? Right on ridgeway? Right off off Lake Avenue?
Right off Lake Avenue? All right? And no, what did people
you? She had to pass other cards and she's dragging you in your hit.
Oh yeah, did anybody like stop or some corner song? One lady
stopped the face sorry, go ahead, Tabitha, No, it's okay.
So one lady stopped and she's like, are you all right? And I
was like, unless you take me to chase that bitch, keep it moving.
I kind of yelled at her. I would have scared me unless you're
gonna take me to chase that pitch. So you walked home, right?
Yeah? I had to walk all the way, like a quarter mile down
the road. And by that time I was on the phone with my husband.
He was running out of his house and towards me. My other friend
was already in a car on their way to me. They were pulling down
the side street at the same time. So it was I have a question.
I have a question for you. You said something curious to me.
You called your husband and he came out of his house. Do you not
live together? Uh? No, Okay, I got my own house and
he's got his. How it's kind of makes it, you know what?
Fifteen fights. I'm just saying that could keep me. He needs her time
away from me. Let me promise you, I'm not very easy to handle.
Get another foreigner song? Is he right there? Yeah? Can we
talk to him for a moment? Yeah? Hold on, what's wow?
Man? Hello? She ever hurting you? Man? Pardon me? She
ever hurt you? No? Man, she could. Did you see the
film the footage? Yeah, she's like a stunt woman. Yeah, she's
been like that since I've known her. What is the craziest thing that you've
seen her do? Mmmmm? Jesus wouldn't even know where to start. Met
rolodex. Yeah, I'm just curious. Like she sounds like she's very protective
of the people and the things that she loves that she loves. Yes,
yes, if I had any issues, she would drop her life. Okay,
now immediately, how long have you been married to her? We not
physically married, but we've been together for eleven years. Okay, so then
we got five children together. Okay, fantastic. So eleven years you're together,
you have your own residency for your own sanity. I get that,
Yes, but has she ever seen you or mistaken maybe you talking to another
woman like she just saw no, no, no, because what would happen?
Then? Well, she's she's the type that if I didn't invite her
to meet the woman first, then them she would be met. Oh okay,
I just mean like, let's say you were let's say you were let's
say you were going to meet her at a bar. You were coming from
work, she was coming from work. You're gonna have dinner together at like
a pub, and while you're waiting, you're just talking to somebody who ran
into I just want to who's that. I'd be afraid to be a fight.
No, No, my woman would be like who's that? She would
be interested, and we would start talking to the female, both of us
at the same time. Okay, all right, very good, All right.
Uh well, I'm glad the dog is back. And uh it sounds
like you guys you have a busy life over there. Yeah we do.
We're just trying to stay stay the straight and arrow, and this stuff happens,
so find you. Yes, yeah, all right, well let's let's
talk to Tabitha for one more second if you don't mind. Okay, thank
you, hello, Tabitha. Yes, Hi, all right. Well he
I asked him the craziest thing you ever did? He couldn't come up with
anything. He just said, there's so many I'm way back, but if
you push me to my ads, yeah, I take a little overboard.
Well what I said was casinos? What what about? I got them kicked
out of the casino. How did you get them cooked out of the casino?
How did this happen? Tabitha? Well, security wanted to approach me
and tell me to leave table. And I had some chips still and were
kind of turned up poker. And you turned up in a poker at De
Lago, uh, Seneca, Seneca. And when you turn up what does
that mean? What? What does turn up for you? I don't know.
If security asked me to leave and ask me for my ID, and
I said, I'm not leaving, but here's my ID. I'm going to
wait for my chips. They said you can't collect your chips, just leave,
and it just it got really crazy. Did you start swinging? Yeah,
there was like sixteen of them trying to carry me out, and I
was putting. I want to see that video. Where's that footage? Did
you get? I've been trying to get that video for two years. So
Tabitha's collection, Tabitha. You are Tabitha. I I feel like we need
to talk to you on a regular basis. Oh boy, no, seriocom
I think you could. So now, Tabitha, I have to ask you
this because I did ask your husband. I said, if let's say you
and he were going to meet at a bar restaurant for dinner after work,
he got there first and he was talking to a woman. I said,
what would happen Nothing, I'd be trying to take her home myself. Okay,
So do you are you guys swingers? No? Not at all.
I don't know. I like female. Okay, so you get to hook
up? Now, what happens about it? Can he get some side action
too? Or no? Yeah? Of course? Oh so you have an
open marriage? Yeah? Pretty much like no guys, but I brought okay,
so you don't mess with guys, you mess with girls. If he
took a woman home, would that bother you? No? As long as
I know at first. Oh, so if he told you, he said,
listen, I'm going to take this one home, would you bother?
Let's say, now one of the kids are sick and you've got to be
over there with the kid, and he's over at his place, going to
town, going deep. No, no, I wouldn't be mad. Don't
He don't do anything like that for the kids. No, No, it
a different place. Yeah. Did some of the kids live at his house?
Yes, he has custody of all his kids and the kids we got
together us, I got you, Okay, all right, but he has
eight children in total. Jesus. Wow, my man, he's a busy
dude to repopulate the earth. Wow, Tabitha, I feel like I would
like to talk to you again sometime. Yes, of course, I think
you have a very I would love to get your perspective on things that are
happening, maybe in the city. Okay, all right, Yeah, May
I ask what do you do for a living? I just started. I'm
a stay at home mom, but I just tried to start a resale shop
because my husband buys themselves storage in it. So I've been taking the stuff
he gets in the storage and it's I'm putting it on eBay while I'm at
home. Oh wow, great idea things that people just left. Yeah,
it's called Little Treasures and Fines. We just opened up our own DBA and
we started a business with it. And you're doing it. Is there is
there a brick and mortar store? Is it just online? May first,
I'm going to open up the store and can you say where? That is?
No location yet? Okay, but you could do it, you have
you could do a book page open. Yeah, you could do it right
online and just and save yourself the rent. Yeah, I've been doing it
online. But I feel like all the stuff I have, I feel like
some people need to go see what I have. What's the coolest thing you
found in one of those storage sheds? Old toys and old coins? We
found a little a little pirate treasure coin and from eighteen eighty eight? Were
they worth someton? It's worth money? Bookou money, we'll shake it off
my toe. Have you been able to sell that? No? Well we're
looking at into selling it now. All right, Tabitha, I need to
stay in touch with you. Yeah, if I send anytime, all right?
If I send you a friend request will you accept it. Yes,
I will. All right, thank you, Tabitha. I have a great
night, and I'm glad you got your dog back. And I'm also glad
you're safe. So glad. Yeah, I'm safe. I'm not hurt.
I'm just a little bit road wrapped up. And yeah that's yeah, that'll
come up. You'll be fine. That's it. Yeah, all right,
good Tabitha. It's been a pleasure. Thank you so much. Thank you
for calling me and having me on your show. All right, thank you
podcast. Thanks how about that? Wow? Man, this show gets wilder
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there were were there submarine races going on in the canal watching trains. He
oh, you're asking me, Yeah, I'm asking you now, wasn't a
submarine race? The only one was racing was the girl trying to uh kick
her friend above float Yeah, from going underwater because he's underwater for about I
say, approximately like a minute and a half. Yeah. Wow. So,
uh say your name so I don't mispronounce it. It's Clarence, Clarence.
I'm sorry. I don't know why I had it as I thought I
saw it as Corinth. I must have seen it wrung h. But Clarence
on on your Instagram. You have GQ Clarence. You look like I look
at the picture of this guy. He looks like he stepped out of GQ.
And then I see a picture of him and he's standing with some other
people. The guy looks like he could play edge rusher for the Buffalo Bills.
Like he's jacked. Yeah. Yeah, I tried to make it to
the gym as much as I can. I played a little semi pro football
and everything, and you know, I work out a lot, so I
hear all the time about my arms, and I'm like, I said,
you gotta eat your wheaties. You know, so clear. What were you
doing out by the canal at one o'clock in the morning to be able to
be there to help these people? Okay, I'm making long story short.
So one of my friends, UH ended up calling me out. He was
out, you know, just having a drink and he was at the bar.
So I was just gonna go join him. And what happened was I
pulled my car off, I drove from LB in the Brockport and I got
the Brockport. So as I jumped out, I had flip flops on and
I was gonna change into my sneakers in the trunk. So it's right across
from a Rockport police station. I seen a cop he whips around the corner
and then he parked his car back there. And then there was another cop
that cut through the park a lot, and I'm thinking, like, what's
going on? Is there a fight? Yeah? And then I've seen a
lot of people gathered over there, so I'm like all right, and then
I've seen the cop running over there. So I'm like, you know,
I want to know what's going on. I'm like, Joe, I want
to know. Yeah, You're like me, you nosy, Yeah, yeah,
here is yeah, yeah, you know, just just want to know.
So and if I can help, you know, I'm going to help.
So I ended up I ran across the pavement on my flip flops.
Is probably about I say, about forty yards at flip flops. And then
I see the one officer and the second officer trying to pull this guy out.
Yeah, because they've got it's cement embankment and they have that at different
parts of the canal, which I was. I have a son who's thirteen.
He was up visiting me about a year year ago and we were goofing
around by the canal and he slipped like on that edge. He was being
funny, like playing feeding the docks or something, trying to get him the
come out, and he slipped and there's all slime and stuff. It's like
a fish tank. No one's cleaned, right, so you can't get any
footing on that thing. So there's I mean, if that's where you are
in the canal, if you can't swim, you're fucked. And I hear
like, pardon me, but I forget me, but but the but the
and there's an undertow like we don't think of it. You look at the
canal and you goh, it looks fine because I've been out there on a
kayak and stuff. But no, they're not a good nine feet deep,
if not more. Yeah. Right, What we need to know is what
that forty time was in the flip flops fast as I ran with a four
three nine, it might have been a four, I don't know, maybe
a four or five day. That's not bad. That's not bad. You
felt the sense of urgency to get over there. So when you get over
there, do you help, Like do you hold on to the off as
they're reaching down into the canal. And what do you do because you're a
big, strong guy, Yes, sir, Yeah. So immediately I see
the bystanders. There's just standing there. There's like probably about pictures, several
people just standing there. I'm like, what the heck? I see the
offstar reaching he's reaching over another asar he goes to reach over to So my
instinct they're like they, I guess they dispatched or whatever they said, there's
a guy that fell over in the canal. He's in the canal or whatever.
They're trying to pull him out. So I reached. I was the
third set of hands to pull him out, with the two officers right along
the side. He came out face down and then the one officer he said,
turn him over on his back, turn him over on his back.
So he turns him over on the back and then he starts to perform CPR,
hitting his chef, hitting his check. But the guy he was out,
he was gone, like there was no life left. He was like
whip, you know, like a lips gutti noodle like he was he was
gone. So it's like, oh my gosh, you know, so the
one ulcer he goes to get up, so I get up with him.
The girl, she's still in the water and you know, it's about it's
probably like four feet to the water, that indictment that you were talking about,
so it's possible to climb up there. So the ofucer, he reached
one hand down, I reached the other hand down, and the girl,
you know, we went to try to pull her out, and it was
a tough time getting her out, so she put her feet for leverage to
try to get out, and then her grip was slipping from out of my
hand because she was so wet and it was slipping from the ulcer over there.
We almost had her up and then she is slipping back, and I
could just think of my brain, I was like, no, God,
like, we can't drop this girl, you know, and lose her,
because we know she already is struggling fighting to keep this guy up and he's
been underwater for a minute and a half. So in my brain thought the
worst was like, no, we can't let her go. We got to
get her up and over. But the girls, I guess she work out
too, because you know, she's a big girl, you know, so
she probably worked out too, you know, So it's a little bit tougher
getting over to uh indate it. So we had to Clarence Clarence not to
be mean, Not to be mean, but you're saying worked out and bigger,
and my question was going to be the same thing. Did she work
out at a gym or did she work out at Jim's Jimmy Z's in Brockport.
I think I'm gonna pass on that one, but Clarence Clarence Clarence,
we got to say to gym, Yeah, she worked out at the gym.
Hey, Clarence, how's L four five in your in your back?
You didn't blow out a disk or anything? Did you? No? Sorry?
But when I did go down, I straped up my knuckle, straped
up my knee. Sure, because when we were trying to pull her,
I almost at that point in time, I almost fell in there too,
and I had to catch my grip. I slipped out of my flip flip
flops when we were getting the guy out, so I almost fell in with
her. So we had to fight. Letter man, Dude, if you
went in, if that, if that, if there any video of this,
yeah, wors there's got to be body camera video. There has to
be somebody. Usually you know, somebody's always out there with the camera and
the other thing is everybody films nowadays, right, yeah. Yeah. It
might have been dark though in the morning. Yeah, but you get you
get the lights out there. All you needed. All we wanted to say
was Clarence getting pulled back in by some beginning in the canal. That's that
was very nice of you to get to get involved. And I know that
that woman had hurt her head as well. Do you know what they were
doing by the canal, like one o'clock in the morning, they were having
a cover Wow, Well, I know there were submarine races going on and
they were watching them. Well, it's common that people like because there's a
couple of bars that are by that canal, so it's common that, you
know, people will baggle pee in the canal, you know, yeah,
yeah, or sometimes sometimes body parts come out for different reasons. I understand
what's happening here. I think I know what's happening, but man, how
scary. Though. The dude stands up, loses his footing and falls in,
and she says in the news she didn't know she knew he didn't know
how to swim, so she jumps in to save him, which is probably
one of the worst things you can do. And I know that sounds counterintuitive,
but it's so hard when someone's scared in the water yourself. You know.
You even pointed that out right, that she probably was tired out.
Well, Clarence, have you heard from these people at all? I have
not the friends that kids. Uh. Well, so she has a son
that he's probably like eighteen twenty one or something like that, but I spoke
to him that same night. Yeah, and you know he thinks me and
everything. And you know, I just said, you know, God placed
me in the right place at the right time, you know, to come
help, you know, along with the two other you know, remarkable officers
because I mean they were on it, you know as well, so a
big thing to them as well. You know, so everyone pitched in to
save that guy's life. But you know she started out by jumping in,
and she didn't jump in. Yeah, you know, who knows? Who
knows? That's a good point because Rick just wrote me note saying I'm assuming
that he was revived. They both have left the hospital since since the incident.
Yeah, So that that's a great thing, right, and that you
did, you did save she saved the life, and you helped save her
life because there's really no getting out of there that that's uh so that's an
eye opener. And now that the kids are backing college kill now the question
I want to know, did you make it into the bar afterwards? And
did you pay for any drinks that night? So yeah, I did,
I mean that to the bar afterwards. And that's where her son thanked me.
And then there's one girl I know, and that's a bartender that works
here. I known her for a while. Her name is Jesse. She's
a great bartender out there and backport, and she ended up you know,
she Hey, you know, I get you some drinks you know, in
the house and stuff, and you know, I'm not a person that drinks
and drive. And it's close to closing time, so I'm like, nah,
I appreciate it. Anyways, Thank you. That was God's reward for
you. God puts you the right the right time, and then put you
in the right bar at the right time to go back next time. For
a man, I think that what Clarence, what your last name is that?
Yes, what do you do for a living? Sir? I Actually
I own my own company now. It's a gutter company. So I put
up a gutter on people houses. I do gutter cleans, uh, gutter
pitch and gutter steeler. I do what's free removal? What what's the name
of the business? Uh, Gunner Pro c n C Gutter Pro. Yes,
sir, okay, And you got a website? People can find you
online. I do. I'm in the process of doing a website, but
I haven't got enough yet, so I just go buy my phone numbers.
So, but I'm not sure. Did you do Christmas lights too? Yeah?
Yes, sir. Stop friend met at bt B. He's looking for
somebody to put up Christmas lights this year. Yeah, he is bt B.
And then the great Shirt. Yeah, he is looking for people to
do that. But uh, do you have a Do you have a Facebook
page or anything where people might be able to find you. Yeah. GQ
Clarence, GQ Clarence. Why why GQ Clarence Because hero was taken. Because
because I'm in I always been, you know, free dad for guys.
You know, once upon a time, you know, my mom she told
me I was handling I ran with it. So well, everybody, hang
on a second. Everybody's mom lies to them and says, everybody's mom lies.
But I said, at the beginning of this, I saw your picture.
You are a handsome guy. You are handsome, That is true.
Appreciate it. I appreciate it. Yeah. But so but the when you
introduce yourself as GQ, do the ladies laugh or do they they like it?
Or do you have a lady in your life? First off, GQ.
You know, it's just you know, because if you're if you make
it to the GQ magazine, it's like it's big. You know, all
the celebrities are in there and everything, and and they're all snazzy and everything.
So I just attached the GQ to the front. But my real name
is Clarence, but the GQ because you know those stazzy and everything. So
the GQ is in front of there. You know, I like it.
I know. We talked about your weightlifting. I have a twenty one year
old son who did his first powerlifted competition, and but he did. He
didn't know anything about it. He didn't know like any of the rules or
anything. He's on a Roberts Wesleyan's track team. He's a thrower, so
he went in there and you have to wear a singlet and he didn't have
one, so he had to borrow one, and then his underwear was sticking
out, so they cut the under they cut his underwear, but he came
in third. So I'm gonna brag. I'm going to ask you how much
do you bench? How much do I bench? Right the canal? Because
right now, you know, it's so funny. I'm actually I'm in behavior
right now, and I was inside of Planet Fitness and uh uh texted him
back and forth and as far as you know, Colin Bill, yes that's
me. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's you. So I'm like,
oh, shoot, I gotta run through Planet Finnish call you. I'm actually
at the gym right now. But everything in this gym, everything in this
gym so ridiculous, all right, because okay, yeah, so this was
I don't know, there's rules to it, like you got to hold it
for so many seconds at your chest and then hold it so many seconds up
and there's signals that they give and he didn't know any of that stuff.
And I think he said bench wise, he only did. I think he
dropped out of three fifteen, like he couldn't do the three fifteen in hole.
At one point it was still not that. No, he came in
third in his in his weight class, and I don't I think he weighs
one hundred and ninety pounds. Yeah, yeah, so that's really good though,
I mean for his Yeah, he's a he's a pretty strong kid.
But uh, well, congratulations. Uh you certainly were in the right place
at the right time, and you help some people, and I'm sure the
officers even thanked you. And I bet if you uh, no ticket,
and yeah, that's I think that's a good thing. I like that.
That's very smart, very smart. Awkward had you had those drinks and the
cop pulled you over, I would have been like, but officer, I
just yeah, all right, go ahead, yeah, get out of jail
free card. That's very funny. I'm sorry, thank you for letting us
interrupt your workout. Clarence. Oh, it's fine. You know, I
got time. You know, I'm on a break. No judgment at Planet
Fitness. Yeah, it's a judgment free zone. Thank you, and good
luck with everything. Very welcome, Take care, thanks for reaching out.
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