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What's going on everybody? This is
that's not at all the UK's and the

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most annoying rock and heavy podcast,
and this is Hyperblasts where we attack the

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week's news, new music, hot
topics, not that kind, but you

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know, stuff going on, and
boy, if we've got a bunch of

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those today, it must be said, it's a real stacked, exciting week.

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So we're going to get into all
of that. I'm parent hash Sam

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is not here because they are in
Edinburgh seeing Bruce Springsteen no less, so

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they'll be back next week where we
can probably hear a bit as well about

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their experiences at slam Dunk last weekend, because I know that's something that people

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have had their tongues wagging about this
week, not really for the right reasons,

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but they're in is Elli Paisley is
here though, Hello, Hello,

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how are you. I'm doing well. We do have some awesome new music

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to talk about, some potentially I
guess mentous news in some way as well.

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I think we should briefly start,
though, acknowledging some of the feedback

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that we got on our show last
week where we spoke about the new Sleep

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Tooken album and why we personally don't
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I think, as expected, some
people really understood where we were coming from,

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not just other people who aren't into
the band and felt vindicated or whatever,

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but people who are, you know, into them as well, which

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we do appreciate. And some people
took quite a bit more umbridge with what

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we were saying. Yeah, I
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to think that most people took the
review in the spirit that it was intended,

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but it wasn't a universal response,
at least on that end. Yeah,

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I think there were a few people
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mouths as well, which I felt
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bit in some of the Facebook comments. Maybe I shouldn't have done that and

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just addressed all here. I don't
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were like clearly really enjoying getting our
knives out to ship on something that's popular

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and means spiritedly wanting to lash out. That is pretty much the exact antithesis

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of the emotions with which we approached
that episode. And I think that's fairly

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obvious in the conclusions that we reached
where we were like, that's not something

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we actually want to do again.
Everyone who engaged with that episode in the

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right spirit, whether you agreed with
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I certainly do appreciate that it makes
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I think, just to clear some
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know, maybe there are things that
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kind of put a cap on it. There was a discussion that kind of

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a rose in the Arthmas around gate
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has sort of sat on that.
I did try to preempt this and kind

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of explain some of that in the
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There is nothing about our position that
is gate keeping sleep Token fans from

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being a part of our community.
I know a lot of you guys love

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them, and I cannot stress enough
how perfectly cool with us. That is.

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Like a few people seem to interpret
our discussion as you guys can't come

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in here. No one should be
listening to this, and you know not.

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This is why us continuing to keep
having to engage with this is a

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waste, which was where that episode
was coming from. Yeah, I mean,

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I think you have a pretty uncharitable
reading the thing that we don't want

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more people to like rock and metal, that we're critical of how people get

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in. I mean, it's almost
such a cliche at this point. Maybe

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that's why we didn't bother saying it. It doesn't matter how you got here

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or what even particularly what you like. I mean to be honest, if

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you listen to this podcast and you
care about rock and metal and you follow

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it, you can probably safely assume
that there's going to be bands that you

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like that ninety percent of the world
think is as a ship and some of

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the things you get up that to
ninety nine point nine. So for me,

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I think if you start worrying too
much about necessarily like what other people,

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I mean, the gate keeping thing, I don't think. I don't

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think that's necessarily fair as a criticism, because we were quite clear throughout that

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that was never really our target of
criticism. I think ultimately you can get

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keep what you want to cover on
your own podcast, right. That's that's

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called editorializing. And there is a
difference between policing what people are allowed to

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like and what we want to spend
our time talking about, which you know

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we did that publicly in discussion rather
than covertly behind closed doors, which is

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perhaps the difference and what some of
you may have preferred we do. But

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at the same time, there were
other people asking, you know, why

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would we be ignoring the elephant in
the room of like the biggest new rock

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record of the year, Like I
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Like you may have noticed that compared
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hyper Blast album discussions that we've done, I didn't title it Sleep Token album

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review. I called it something else
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kind of objective piece of criticism on
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then some of what we said,
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place and something like that, and
it was more a look into our thoughts

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on where we're at with it and
why we don't actually want to keep reviewing

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stuff like this. And you know, in the middle of that discussion,

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we did explain our problems with the
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an hour of us tearing apart an
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that put it. It was us
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it and expressing why would we why
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not have to do it anymore after
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you know, listen to that kind
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entertaining. That's completely fair, and
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one, and that's that's your prerogative, and that's cool, and we'll see

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you on the next one. But
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weren't having fun and we'd rather do
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you know, cauterize the wound if
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know, dedicate twenty to thirty minutes
to them every couple of years when they

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release a record going forward, which
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us to do. And we don't
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all of these same reasons that we've
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clear that we've got, you know, just fundamental problems with the band that

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aren't going to change anytime soon.
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fucking that's the hat option to do, isn't it. And you know,

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that's why we had to say in
the stfts that we don't want to touch

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them anymore and at least give some
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it's not a matter of you know, oh, it's not metal enough,

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so it's not good, which would
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that none of us have ever said
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having to say that, really,
But like all three of us listened to

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plenty of stuff that isn't metal,
Elliot, you probably listen to a bunch

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of stuff sort in the more indie
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a way. And it was a
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good and at the same time it
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what this podcast specializes in, which
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so wh I keep on torturing ourselves. That was the relevance of that particular

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element of the discussion. Yeah,
like you say, it's one of those

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things where if they were this was
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wouldn't have mentioned it. It's only
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seismic movement in certainly in British metal, but maybe metal full stop of the

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time, and as a rock and
metal podcast being exposed to things like this,

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it's hard not to have it take. And you know, if we

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did enjoy it, then we just
do it all the time, Like we

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wouldn't be saying this is the last
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a laugh we had such a great
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promised to talk about each and every
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things over and over again. I
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we were enjoying it in that we
maybe you know, we made jokes,

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we made lights of things, but
you know, you make someone sevelence of

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a podcast being fund tolicity right,
like this is it. We're not in

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court, Like, it's not a
way just because we don't like a record

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doesn't mean we have to be completely
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it's that review. Certainly, I
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but it's not as rewarding as when
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like, at least things that were
really interested in. Yeah, and I

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think there's a little bit of the
danger in using the you know, the

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that's not metal card of saying,
oh, this podcast about being open minded,

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because there is a balance has to
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at the same time, I do
remember when this podcast started, and a

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big part of its appeal for many
people as a listener was how it was

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trying to maintain some sense of what
alternative music was and kind of you know,

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calling out some stuff that that people
didn't think fell kind of you know,

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didn't feel was appropriate and to the
point I literally we had an episode

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called dog Seal, which was such
a stupid, neighbored episode because we were

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reviewing some like pop rock nonsense and
there was some big hilarious speel from someone

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about how if you've given a dog
and you're told it's a seal, like

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very silly, like, why would
you put it like that? But that's

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always been that's always been part of
TNN. It's a bit weird to have

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that they pointed out as hypocritical.
Only now am I going to sneer at

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you and tell you you're not a
real metal fan or whatever people thought I

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were saying for for enjoying sleep Token
any more than I would, you know,

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I would say that for you enjoying
the kind of pop an R and

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B artist that this has more in
common with fuck No. That's why the

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podcast has this name, because you
can listen to and be a fan of

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whatever kind of thing you want to
without anyone telling you that you're not metal

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enough to come in. But do
I want to review those things? No?

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I don't, And that's what this
episode was about, right, Like,

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we will continue to review things that
we don't like, because as many

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people have come forward saying that is
an important part of the show too and

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worth balancing out just being kind of
an uncritical fanzine. But this goes beyond

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that into something where there was just
nothing here for us anymore, and repeatedly

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doing that, like three times in
my case, was enough and we had

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to explain that so we can just
stop there. It's not like we're going

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to stop people being excited about talking
about them, you know, in the

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Facebook group or whatever. By all
means be excited like they've just announced a

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Wembley Arena date, which is indeed
massive, and that is a bananas trajectory,

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that is, if nothing else is
extremely off note, and you know,

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if people vote for them in the
Album of the Year pole come December,

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It's not like we're going to fudge
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Hooken from Winning or indeed you know
bad Omens or any of the other kind

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of artists that we sort of bundled
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We just don't want to review them
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of doing this. Really, and
at the end of the day, I'm

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glad we did it because it wasn't
an hour long review. It was a

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discussion about our personal intersections with the
new biggest thing, and then we don't

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have to talk about it again.
Yeah. I mean, if you listen

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to that podcast and like, like
you say you found it depressing or didn't

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find it fun, or you thought
it you know, as seem like we're

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just giving something a kicking, maybe
just look at it as us sort of

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ripping the plaster off sense, rather
than over one month we have to keep

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talking about bands, there's no have
to, but bringing in bands we don't

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like, to keep pointing out why
we don't like them. That's almost like

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use that as a reference point,
like we're not talking about something. Consider

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that maybe as a barometer as to
why we are or why we're not.

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So Yeah, I think overall,
it's definitely the less kind of malicious option

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to just sort of put it all
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Yeah, and I hope people can
appreciate and understand that. So there

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you. I think that's that topic
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with an announcement that I think Blindside
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potential to be taken us either good
or bad news. Josh Middleton quite surprisingly

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announced that he has left Architects and
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material Josh and Architects. What was
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first of all, about Josh leaving
the band? Um, I mean,

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it's a weird because I'm not really
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Solosis, but I always thought not
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a goal frankly, but right,
but yeah, when he joined, I

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don't know, I kind of just
presumed he'd always be there. That seems

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like an old thing to say when
he joins on an album eight or whatever

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it was, But the way he
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at that point in time, and
again being an incredibly talented musician and it

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being in a sense of commercial step
up for him. It seemed like one

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of those things where I couldn't imagine
him leaving. Yeah, and I think

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we know that Josh wrote a large
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the next records as well. So
he's been immensely important for the architect story

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in terms of helping, you know, kind of direct the ship after they

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lost Tom. I think Holy Hell, I think he's in contention with all

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our gods have abandoned us to be
their best album. So like the man

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did an incredible job. The last
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It's really bad, title was like
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who wrote what percentage of what on
that record, because like, if you

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were a real cynic, you could
take that as oh, that's the album

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which they've like most simplified and lost
the cut and challenging edge. Obviously,

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Josh wasn't feeling that anymore and he's
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he could well have written a large
portion of that as well, and it

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could well have been that, you
know, he was enjoying writing stuff that

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was so radio friendly and straight ahead
as a change from what he was doing

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inside Looses And I think a lot
of us looked up at there at Josh

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playing with Architects and felt a real
sense of kind of you know, home

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pride for the man in the way
that he had finally gotten the opportunity to

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play all these massive stages and such
because he'd been such a pillar of the

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UK metal scene for so long.
I mean, they just su put him

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Metallica like the weekend that they've announced
this, and you know, maybe he

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took that as the high, like
it's not going to be a bit better

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than this. I've achieved what I
wanted to achieve. Sionara, Yeah,

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I did think it was weird timing
for him to bow out with Download around

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the corner, as you say,
just having these Metallica dates, maybe give

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it a couple of weeks like sort
of, so there is that sort of

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weirdness for the band. Maybe when
they're playing, if people are going like,

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hang on, where's the other guy? I don't know, maybe that's

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thinking too cynically about it all,
but yeah, it struck me as odd,

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but it's made a lot more sense
when the Silosis material came out a

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day or so later. Yeah,
I think the only reason you can take

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without jumping to any kind of conclusions
like that that you might be able to

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support, is that he just wants
to put all of his attention back onto

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Silosis because that's his baby. And
I've got a mental respect for him doing

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that, because he doesn't have to
leave this, you know, the massive

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band he's in the headlines arenas to
go play in his like thrash metal band,

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But that's his baby that he loves, and we've seen Silosis really gearing

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up to go again over the last
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he first joined Architects, I was
a big long white between Silosis records where

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they didn't actually look like they were
an active band. Really, it's really

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nice to see Josh going, you
know what, this is my band and

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I love it and we've not gone
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that vein we've got new Silosis material, which is called Poison for the Lost.

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It's on an album which is called
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and that's out on September the eighth
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again in front of just like Silosis, now, Josh's primary gig once again.

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I know you've just said you're not
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always been, like they've been one
of my UK metal bands ever since they

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kind of, you know, the
peak days of this kind of era of

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bands, and I always love how
he is able to take the thing that

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Joshua has been so good at is
going back to at least like kind of

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Edge of the Earth, is taking
real extreme metal and making it make sense

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on just a kind of contemporary metal
level, because there's death metal fury in

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these riffs translated with that lens where
there's riffs in here that sound like they

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could be in like DA Side or
like Decapitated songs, but instead the overall

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sound is something they can go on
tour with like malevolence, and it's got

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that kind of bang, a harsh
metal chorus in there. Yeah, there's

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It's again, it's weird, like
I know that they are thrash metal band,

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but I've never put them in the
thrash metally unique sounding band. Yeah,

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it's kind of like, now,
not just compare them to another band,

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but something like what Trivia have done
on the trivium of the only comparable

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case really yeah, yeah, where
you have like blackmail and death metal and

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there's extreme staff mixed with pretty palatable
radio metal stuff. And yeah, I

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think, like I say, I'm
not really a fan, it's not any

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dislike towards the band. I've never
particularly been blown away, but they're reliable

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and listening to this it's as good
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So if you are a Solusis fan, there's nothing to dislike you at all.

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it's just this band who I have

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loved for a long long time.
Like I've been a Silosis fan much longer

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than I've been in Architects, and
it's been really good in the last few

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years to see them like going places
finally and getting some of the plauders I

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think they've deserved for a long time. And again seeing Josh kind of step

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away from, you know, the
huge thing he's in to really just like

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put his all into the harsher variant
of what he does. I think that's

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awesome. I think that's quite inspiring
on Architects part. It will be very

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interesting to see who they bring in
to replace him and kind of what shape

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their music takes next. If they
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goes even further than the kind of
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if it does something different, it's
obviously big boots to fill. Like he

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basically the best guitarist in the UK
metal scene, so you know, obviously

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when when they lost Tom, he
was like the but the only comparable person

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in terms of like that level of
talent. But it's obviously it's a much

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nicer situation for be for them to
be in in terms of looking for a

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new guitarist than the last time they
had to do that, so they can

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take it a little bit easier not
have to, you know, kind of

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stake the entire band's existence on that
moment. I think they'll be fine.

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particularly worth how much he wrote and what

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he wrote India. I don't know
if they can really go much further down

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the classic syms of a Broken Spirit
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the album was, frankly, it
sounded a bit like a dead end for

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that kind of thing. Was almost
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thing. So I mean, it
would be cool to see if they bring

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in a new guitarist, if he
fills in that position again if we find

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a new song writ so kind of
freshen things up of it. So,

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like you say, it's a much
noise position to be in, and I

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would be curious to see what this
means for where they go next. Yeah,

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so the Architects News really made that
kind of the important story that week,

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I suppose. But when it comes
to new music, we do have

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a lot to really get excited about. And first off, we're going to

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talk about Creeper, who announced a
new album called sang Guivore, which didn't

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We had like three weeks ago a
question about your raw black metal project,

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and didn't I basically say, I'm
sure I said Sanguine something or other,

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like they've nicked my name from a
few weeks ago. But sang Guibo it's

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going to be coming out on Friday, the thirteenth of October, because if

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you're gonna deal that with any album, it looks like it's going to be

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doing this one. And they've leased
a single called Criter Heaven and they've also

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announced the UK to for November.
Sang Guibo itself just an overview of the

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album, the album title, the
song titles. If you look down the

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track list, the artwork, it
looked like it's just the most Halloween thing

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they've ever done. But there's a
someone called the Ballad of Spooken Mercy,

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And I think the last album had
a particular kind of like band in turmoil

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emotion around it, like where they
really turn that into something beautiful, but

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like a few different members of the
band all seem to have their own kind

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of things they were going through around
them making an album. Like if Creeper

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have made an album so far that
a twenty ten Metal Hammer cover would slap

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we went through hell for this album
next to it, it'd be that one.

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The focus on the kind of more
frivolous vampire stuff would suggest to me

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that they've had quite a fun time
making this one. By comparison, I

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mean this was like a Cradle Filth
album from twenty eleven or something. It's

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so when craid Le Filth got too
outrageous, like when their fans lads rain

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it in and then they did an
Amber of the Witches. I mean,

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like Sanguivore as a name the album
cover. I just say the track list,

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it's it feels weird, like because
we know the kind of goth,

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naughty boys that creeper are but even
this was I was I was gonna say

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a bridge too far, but it's
it's too good to put it down.

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And it's a jump on. It's
like it's the full on, like the

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fucking the safety belt is off right, They're just like going full on.

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And again, if if you know
sex definite infamt that void musically was an

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enormous risk and leap and I really
really fucking admire that. But that was

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more into that kind of again classic
rock, Britpop, all the sort of

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areas. This is just the full
like we don't care if what you think

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we're doing is kind of cheesy or
pastiche And on the track list front,

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Ghost Brigade is not on the album, which came out maybe a year ago.

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It seems more like kind of I
guess a transitionary tracks bringing you from

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one place into the other. I
must say I didn't really keep listening to

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Ghost Brigade after it came out.
Maybe I just sort of put it on

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the back bend. I'm like,
oh, I listen to the album when

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it comes out. I didn't realize
how long ago that song came out as

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well, but i'd be listened to
it again this week. Now they're they're

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playing it live and such, And
I don't know why I registered that as

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being like a less good Creeper trap. It's a fantastic song, It's it's

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classic Creeper. But perhaps it being
classic Creeper is why it doesn't fit on

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this album, because Quieter Heaven is
also a fantastic song, but in a

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very different way. Yeah, I
mean I have a slightly muddled relationship with

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Creeper. Like the songs I like, I really really like, and the

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ones that I'm not keen on really
running up wrong the wrong way. Oh

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no, this don't have those rand
No, No, I'm full heart eyed

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Creeper, always have been. Oh
I might be the biggest Creeper skeptic passed

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through these ranks so far. But
what you don't think are good, they're

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all good. What the songs you
don't think are good? They're all good?

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I mean cyanide, Well, I
choose to live not good. Yeah,

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you know people are coming for you, I know. And then well,

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I mean that song not not to
get two sidetracks. But when that

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came out, everyone's going, oh, it's like Andrew Lloyd Webber and you're

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like, that's terrible. That's not
a nice thing to say about a song.

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I never made that comparison myself because
I didn't like that. I thought

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of it more as Queen but Anywhere
anyway. But this, this is much

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more like it. It's like big, pompous, melodramatic, sweeping rock music.

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It's afi the Pesh mode and then
like perm Era Ozzy Osbourne, like

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it's three beautiful, three great tastes
that tastes great together. It's such a

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exceptional lead single. My first time
listened to the song, I was basically

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that meme of Vince McMahon continually getting
more excited, like every time a new

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element came in, because I didn't
know what to expect. And it's like,

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oh, well, what these sense
doing here? Like Creeper have always

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used keyboards, but not kind of
you know, full on synthway style since

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and then it was oh the fun
that's a nineteen eighties arena metal riff.

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They not done that before. And
then the chorus all the way through to

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like the solo and the key change
at the end. I didn't know what

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to do with myself. Every new
thing was so surprising. Somehow this is

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hilarious, Like it sounds like a
song, and I mean, this is

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the best possible way where the people
making it have had the maximum possible fun

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putting it together, like they've done
their This corrosion basically crossed with like a

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nineteen eighties radio metal song, which
is exactly what I want in my ears?

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Like how did they know that was
exactly what I wanted? I mean,

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they've gone from borrowing since the Mercy's
font for the Sex Death era too.

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Oh, I'm actually just going to
be Andrew Eldritch in the video,

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like the back and forth in the
chorus with the big Steinman choirs and then

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the voice crow to Evan like it's
so fun and camp and brilliant as a

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theremin in there. The thing that
struck media abouts is every goth adjacent band

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feels compelled to describe rocky horror as
an influence, and you then listen to

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those bands that you go, I
don't hear the least bit of rocky horror

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in any of this. There's no
rocky horror emotionless in white No, yeah,

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exactly, but this there were legit
bits where on problems I was like,

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that's rocky horror. That's the exact
sort of like in the low voice,

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in the sort of spoken word he
bit. It's the build into the

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solo like the ever was is un
ignorable here and as you say, like

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the perfect level of campiness when no
one's going to accuse this as a pastiche

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or a joke, but it's almost
a maximum amount of fun like the peak

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of the bell curve. The video
is fully ridiculous. It's like a cross

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between the opening scene of The Hunger
and an eighties workout tape. Like the

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chains that they got hanging every where. Will's got a mullet and the posturing

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like off the charts, all of
the assets of this era that we see.

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Like the other thing is that if
you if you follow Will on social

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media, two of his favorite bands
are grave pleasures than unto others because he

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is a man of refined palette.
But part of this looks like he's been

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watching unto others life for a couple
of years or their videos and going,

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oh, that looks like fun.
It's about tiwgo full tilt and to put

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bats on everything as well, like
if this is all part of creepers,

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like elaborate arena goth rock era.
I think we're in for an incredible amount

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of fun. Code Orange have also
come back. It's amazing how those two

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always fucking aligned every They're never far
apart their albums. No news of a

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Code or album just yet, but
they have come back with two new songs,

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the first of which I heard.
I don't know if anyone else watched

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this. I'm sure at least a
coup people listen needed Code Orange put up

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on their YouTube channel. It was
like a premiering thing of Code Orange slam

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modern music critics with like a click
bait thumbnail like Reba pulling a big face

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next to light, Anthie Fantano and
Finn McKenny and all these kind of people.

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Very funny, but it ended up
being watching ten minutes of a guy

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being tied to a chair, which, like, I don't think it's too

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out of pocket to say that,
it's not that original, and they do

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go on a while when they're doing
it, but it was kind of worth

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it for how if you had that
on, you essentially got jumped scared by

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a new song because they just really
whipped the mask off and then it's just

405
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like full on that squealing, riffing
everything it's so like they've these two songs

406
00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:22,599
they've described as being on the more
chaotic end of what Code Orange is.

407
00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:26,200
So last time we heard from them
as Life from kind of the remix style

408
00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:27,400
record that we got a few months
ago, it was Out for Blood,

409
00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:32,880
which is totally on the like simplified
fucking banger end of their scale. I

410
00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:34,480
actually think Out for Blood is one
of my very favorite Code Orange songs,

411
00:24:34,519 --> 00:24:37,799
Like I rinsed it, but if
you are someone who got your nickers in

412
00:24:37,799 --> 00:24:41,240
a twist saying it sounded like static
x or whatever, this is more for

413
00:24:41,319 --> 00:24:44,960
you that said when I again grooming, my replacement is the one I heard

414
00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:48,880
as part of the video stream.
It didn't feel anywhere here as jarring as

415
00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:52,160
like Underneath did. Like there's tons
of interesting sound play going on, particularly

416
00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:55,880
kind of around the bridge at the
two minute mark, but swallowing the rabbit

417
00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:57,319
hole in terms of the amount of
like what the fuckery it is? Not,

418
00:24:57,559 --> 00:25:00,480
which may in fact be a positive
people, because if Underneath as an

419
00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:03,119
album had a few people going like
this is a bit much like, let's

420
00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:06,920
rain this a bit in and use
some of these tools a little bit more

421
00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:10,440
carefully, a little bit more sparingly. Maybe that's what we got here.

422
00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:12,559
Yeah, I mean for me,
this feel like a weird start to the

423
00:25:12,599 --> 00:25:17,640
new cycle. Not bad necessarily,
but like the press photos, I mean,

424
00:25:17,839 --> 00:25:21,279
Code Orange the new cycle every time, there's something so exciting about them

425
00:25:21,279 --> 00:25:23,759
because the last couple times they've changed
the lineup, the members seem to each

426
00:25:23,799 --> 00:25:27,680
individually get a new look, like
Shade always as the best rip, and

427
00:25:27,759 --> 00:25:32,240
everything sinks up nicely, and it
kind of suggests that there's this element of

428
00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:37,160
moving forward and these songs they're not
particularly a radical reinvention, like we might

429
00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:40,119
get to the same one at the
game. In particular, there's songs that

430
00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:44,960
kind of feel like a refinement maybe
of the sort of formula they were playing

431
00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:48,680
with even on forever. To an
extent, Yeah, I think during my

432
00:25:48,759 --> 00:25:52,319
replacement it's a very interesting song title
for a band who the last song we

433
00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:56,880
had when there was you Were Motherfucker
I Am. But like the main groove

434
00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:59,279
and it is crushing. Jamie is
pretty legible over it, and he has

435
00:25:59,279 --> 00:26:00,960
that kind of just like are all
power to his vocals that he's always had

436
00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:04,359
that summons up something primal, like
a power of a real frontman on like

437
00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:08,119
a hardcore song like that. I
think the game as well. It does

438
00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:11,599
what I love Code Orange to be, which is that it feels like a

439
00:26:11,599 --> 00:26:17,519
hardcore song that's been like poisoned somehow, or again it maybe a little bit

440
00:26:17,559 --> 00:26:19,920
kind of more of a bite size, digestible way. Where I like these

441
00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:23,119
two two new songs, I have
a feeling I will like them even more

442
00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:26,880
when they're hopefully part of an album
that surrounds them with like stuff of other

443
00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:32,039
stripes and colors. Yeah, that's
sort of where I'm I do think these

444
00:26:32,039 --> 00:26:36,759
songs are really good, but they're
not kind of that they're not making my

445
00:26:36,799 --> 00:26:41,680
head spin the way the title track
and Swallowing the rabbit Hole well before Underneath

446
00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:45,920
were, like you say, I
can't believe the leap they've made with part

447
00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:48,400
of me is willing to see these
as a bit of a knock knock from

448
00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:52,480
Code Orange in a sense, because
there's no real video video, Like you

449
00:26:52,519 --> 00:26:55,759
say, there's been no album a
dastment. You could say these two singles

450
00:26:56,119 --> 00:27:00,480
as a bit of a sort of
step up to the plate, and then

451
00:27:00,559 --> 00:27:03,640
the next time around we might get
a full fledged video and the new look

452
00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:07,519
and the album cover and everything,
and that will be when we get the

453
00:27:07,559 --> 00:27:11,000
real surprise, maybe that this might
partly also be a sort of assurance to

454
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:14,480
some people, like you say,
the Alpha Blood thing. I liked that

455
00:27:14,559 --> 00:27:17,960
song okay when it came out,
but it did slightly put my backup because

456
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:19,319
I was worried that was going to
be what they did going forward. Now

457
00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:22,359
I never had a problem with it. I always knew there'd be different things

458
00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:26,799
going in the tank. And if
you if you are capable of writing the

459
00:27:26,799 --> 00:27:30,680
best fucking like metal floor thiller of
however many years, like, why you're

460
00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:36,680
not going to not do it?
I mean, now it's kind of confirmed

461
00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:38,960
it with this the opening of this
cycle. But I sgein to see this

462
00:27:40,039 --> 00:27:42,680
a bit of like a side quest
thing, and now I love it on

463
00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:47,480
those grounds and I think it's a
great song. But yeah, so it's

464
00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:51,359
an interesting start to this new little
lead code Orange. But it's got me

465
00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:52,880
curious. I think the other thing
about these two songs, and we both

466
00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:55,680
said, there's like, you know, they're similar things that were going on

467
00:27:55,759 --> 00:27:57,920
underneath, but maybe kind of less
crazy and a little bit more sort of

468
00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:04,920
refined as a word that you used, These songs must be so fucking hard

469
00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:08,359
to write still right. It's a
case of like, can you imagine the

470
00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:12,880
effort that's gone into creating the sounds
and everything that are going on in these

471
00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:15,319
tracks, And if any other hardcore
band was doing this, we'll be like

472
00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:18,279
whoa. And I think it's it's
a there's a real case if this is

473
00:28:18,279 --> 00:28:22,920
what maybe an album, like a
sort of a look into what an album

474
00:28:22,039 --> 00:28:25,480
might be. I think we're probably
gonna end up seeing a real case of

475
00:28:25,519 --> 00:28:30,920
like people not being impressed by how
utterly brilliant code or is just like very

476
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:34,359
casually are, which I am always
whenever that happens with bands, I'm always

477
00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:37,039
in the kind of like camp of
wanting to be like, yeah, but

478
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:41,200
fucking listen to this, listen to
how this sounds and everything. So we'll

479
00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:45,960
see about that. Fever three three
three have also come back four four four

480
00:28:47,319 --> 00:28:52,240
now. Because this is a completely
revamped Fever line up, there are two

481
00:28:52,279 --> 00:28:55,920
members who weren't Jason Butler of course
left a while ago, and now it

482
00:28:56,039 --> 00:29:02,319
is a four piece. Drummer Thomas
Priddigan, bassist Pork and guitarist Brandon Davis

483
00:29:02,319 --> 00:29:07,079
have joined Jason Butler in the band, and this Fever song rile A fucking

484
00:29:07,079 --> 00:29:08,920
few people up, didn't it.
I've seen a lot of like, wow,

485
00:29:10,039 --> 00:29:14,839
this is awful. Sam described it
as lin Manuel mirandacore, which set

486
00:29:14,839 --> 00:29:18,720
me up as like to really hate
it, because I don't that sounds like

487
00:29:18,759 --> 00:29:22,559
the worst thing ever. I don't
mind it, Like I don't think I

488
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:25,200
really care that much about Fever three
three three, So I'm not going to

489
00:29:25,279 --> 00:29:27,240
waste a much breath trying to convince
someone who thinks it's awful. It's not

490
00:29:27,279 --> 00:29:30,440
one of their best songs, but
it doesn't feel like that drastic a shift

491
00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:33,440
and what we already knew Fever to
be right, Like it's some kind of

492
00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:40,079
you know, um, very very
modern sounding sort of you know, new

493
00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:44,680
metal via kind of modern day metal
riffs, some beats going on there,

494
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:48,039
and you know, some sort of
fairly straightforward rapping moving into a melodic chorus.

495
00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:52,039
I mean, for me, Fever
when they came out, it was

496
00:29:52,119 --> 00:29:56,559
a very promising thing because Jason Alaballa
just come out of one of the most

497
00:29:56,599 --> 00:30:00,359
one of the most sort of acclaimed
bands of they're seen. The first DP

498
00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:03,839
had a few good songs on it, but the fall has been just sharp

499
00:30:04,039 --> 00:30:08,720
and calamitous in my view, like
strength and Numbers was pretty weak, and

500
00:30:08,759 --> 00:30:11,039
then Wrong the album is the only
thing I really liked from them, Like

501
00:30:11,119 --> 00:30:15,759
I wasn't really I wasn't convinced by
the EP, and then it was on

502
00:30:15,799 --> 00:30:18,079
the album, which again I didn't
love it as a whole, but it

503
00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:19,359
was when they got it right,
and a song like song like burn It

504
00:30:19,359 --> 00:30:22,079
Down and stuff like that would be
like, yeah, that's the kind of

505
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:26,079
those are the modern metal kind of
or modern rock even more so, um

506
00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:30,960
just like single Power. But I
think some mans do lack, I mean

507
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:34,240
maybe, But then Wrong Generation was
like a half baked mudpie, Like it

508
00:30:34,319 --> 00:30:40,480
was just completely pointless. And as
much as I didn't like them before,

509
00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:47,519
there's something so inescapably phony about three
three three twenty three, Like I mean,

510
00:30:48,039 --> 00:30:52,119
they welcome Reggie It's machine comparisons.
But Linn Man Roell Miround is exactly

511
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:55,039
right. It's like he wrote a
musical about rage against the machine, like

512
00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:59,279
he kind of approximated the idea this
is. And the verses I'm sorry,

513
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:02,680
like this thing about Jason Butler being
a good rapper, maybe, but these

514
00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:06,720
are pitch perfect two verses, like
he's capable of being a good rapper.

515
00:31:06,799 --> 00:31:11,559
I think he's obviously and intentionally working
within his means right and doing a simplified

516
00:31:11,599 --> 00:31:15,799
version of what he can do,
and that I mean maybe, but like

517
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:18,640
it whether you want to say I'm
not. I'm not saying that to defend

518
00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:21,880
it. I'm just saying that is
I think what he's doing that could well

519
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:23,839
be like, what the why?
Why fuck are you playing doing that thing?

520
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:26,559
That's up to the individual design.
I'm just saying that, you know

521
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:30,960
he can be a good rapper,
this is lower skill level, but then

522
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:34,359
why do that if you're going to
scream in those kind of rage parts which

523
00:31:34,359 --> 00:31:37,880
just feel so false. I mean, for me, Jason has gone from

524
00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:42,839
one of the most charismatic, effortlessly
cool musicians in rock music to one of

525
00:31:42,839 --> 00:31:47,279
the most cringe inducing you can find. He's almost like speed run the Tom

526
00:31:47,279 --> 00:31:52,200
Morello arc in a set. Yeah
I did. I was watching the video

527
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:55,920
for this, which again he's only
him in a kind of room, and

528
00:31:56,079 --> 00:31:57,720
you do have I don't want to
be like I'm not even the person,

529
00:31:57,759 --> 00:32:00,079
because I would never that attached to
let Live in the first poe, like

530
00:32:00,279 --> 00:32:04,920
all the people have been on this
podcast, I'm probably the lowest let Live

531
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:08,319
fan. But when you remember watching
them videos of them live and stuff like

532
00:32:08,359 --> 00:32:12,000
that. Seeing him in the video
sort of like dancing around on the bed

533
00:32:12,039 --> 00:32:15,799
and stuff, it's like, yeah, it is like a real night and

534
00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:17,359
day kind of thing. I don't
know about the transitions, and it's like

535
00:32:17,359 --> 00:32:21,160
when he starts that like la la
la kind of chorus, it feels very

536
00:32:21,359 --> 00:32:24,119
jarring and clunky, but I can
see people getting into that, and you

537
00:32:24,119 --> 00:32:28,559
know the kind of I think the
weird kind of like churning riff and electronics

538
00:32:28,599 --> 00:32:30,839
combination that you've got in the verses
like behind the wrapping everything. It doesn't

539
00:32:30,839 --> 00:32:34,720
sound bad. That sounds like perfectly
good fever stuff. I think the drop

540
00:32:34,759 --> 00:32:37,279
at the end is super predictable in
the way that the modern bringing the horizon

541
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:42,720
drops that it sounds like, ah, but yeah, I probably won't thisten

542
00:32:42,759 --> 00:32:45,319
this song again if it's not on
an album or something, which it could

543
00:32:45,319 --> 00:32:49,319
well be, but like it's not. I don't think it's rizzible. I

544
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:52,559
just that's as far as my praise
is going to go. It's not rizzible.

545
00:32:53,279 --> 00:32:57,759
Just how is this the sound of
the revolution? Like, yeah,

546
00:32:57,799 --> 00:33:01,000
I wouldn't go that far turn stuff. We're in a bit of a weird

547
00:33:01,039 --> 00:33:05,920
story. This week, they have
an original pop punk song in the Netflix

548
00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:08,240
show I Think you should Leave under
the name the Everything You Knows, and

549
00:33:08,319 --> 00:33:12,519
somehow I think it they've been writing
credits people realize that it was Turnstyle.

550
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:15,079
I think you should leave. I
do not know anything about this show.

551
00:33:15,119 --> 00:33:16,599
I don't watch it. I think
the only way you can actually isn't this

552
00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:21,720
song currently at least, was to
find the scene in the show. There's

553
00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:23,720
a couple of links with it up. But had a couple people been like,

554
00:33:23,759 --> 00:33:25,799
oh, do you want to Turnstile
pop punk album? Now they've kind

555
00:33:25,799 --> 00:33:28,880
of, you know, turned to
writing something like this, and it's like

556
00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:32,519
what it is under a different name, Like it's very clearly like this is

557
00:33:32,519 --> 00:33:37,519
a band playing within themselves, right, like this is in the fucking scene.

558
00:33:37,559 --> 00:33:38,880
It's like cut up into little bits, like it's barely even a flowing

559
00:33:39,319 --> 00:33:44,119
song, but it's fun and it's
got their kind of laid back sense of

560
00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:46,319
melody that you identify to them.
It's it's like if a machine Gun Kelly

561
00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:51,799
song was good and played by a
real band who had real charisma, not

562
00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:54,000
fake try hard charisma. Like that's
what I was saying about it. Yeah,

563
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:58,319
I thought this was pretty good,
like turnstyle. They've not done a

564
00:33:58,319 --> 00:34:01,119
bad song in my opinion, and
this hasn't objected that trend. It is

565
00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:04,640
funny having it in I think you
should leave, which I've not seen a

566
00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:07,800
lot of. But it's a particularly
sort of silly sketch comedy show. Yeah,

567
00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:09,800
which I can he turns out being
totally down by right, they've got

568
00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:14,920
a sense of human Yeah, that's
true, And like I'm almost more surprised

569
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:16,920
that they were asked in a sense
because it is a really popular show.

570
00:34:17,159 --> 00:34:22,719
And like again, it's weird to
ask a band to do a song for

571
00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:25,000
your show when it's not really there, like Field of Play, Like you

572
00:34:25,079 --> 00:34:28,480
think you'd try and find a pop
punk band if that's what you were going

573
00:34:28,519 --> 00:34:30,840
to do, But it's more fun
to get there. I'm glad we got

574
00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:34,639
it. Oh yeah, And the
tone they strike is perfect, Like it's

575
00:34:34,679 --> 00:34:37,719
got a bit of that sort of
shoegaze quality that the kind of all the

576
00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:40,880
emo and hardcore bands were doing about
ten years ago. But I really like

577
00:34:42,159 --> 00:34:45,920
the way it sounds and Turnstile they're
blessed with a pretty recognizable songwriting style,

578
00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:49,960
even down to the lyrics. You
can kind of tell it was them in

579
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:52,800
a sense, so yeah, as
a sort of deep cut easter egg.

580
00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:58,920
The fact they have songs of this
quality just lurking around places, it's I'm

581
00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:01,679
really impressed. Yeah, there you
go. Blood Command have announced a new

582
00:35:01,679 --> 00:35:05,239
album as well this week, called
World Domination for September tween night. They

583
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:07,800
be really singles for a little while, but I think it's just so mental

584
00:35:08,039 --> 00:35:12,559
to be getting a Blood Command album, not just with the same singer,

585
00:35:12,679 --> 00:35:16,840
but a year after the previous album
that its completely unheard of. We are

586
00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:21,719
truly in the new era of that
in that regard to you know, Leafs

587
00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:24,159
completely turned over. Empire State Bastards
album is also going to come out in

588
00:35:24,159 --> 00:35:27,880
September. The first we spoke about
a track from that a few weeks ago.

589
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:31,880
The story outside of you know raging
in the slam dunk comic sections about

590
00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:36,719
their their planning that has got everyone
pissed off this week is everyone's angry at

591
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:42,840
Royal Blood because Mike the singer taunted
the crowd. I believe it's the Radio

592
00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:45,760
one's Big Weekend for not clapping for
them hard enough and being like, we're

593
00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:49,519
in a rock band, you are
allowed to cheer and stuff like that,

594
00:35:49,599 --> 00:35:54,320
and he's a very cringing man,
right, like he is a fool.

595
00:35:54,519 --> 00:35:59,599
You can put him in the Alex
Turner category of like, I do not

596
00:35:59,679 --> 00:36:02,440
want to hang around with you.
You seem like an annoying idiot. It

597
00:36:02,599 --> 00:36:06,639
was quite funny, though, and
I don't actually care, like, can

598
00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:08,719
I bring myself to be in anywhere? I saw a lot of people like,

599
00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:14,000
again, roast this, fine,
it's funny, but if you're writing

600
00:36:14,199 --> 00:36:19,480
a think piece on why Mike Kerr
should have been more respectful to the crowd

601
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:22,440
at radios, people like, it's
not that deep, bro like yeah,

602
00:36:22,599 --> 00:36:25,920
And many people pointed out Brenda Murphy
from Counterpasters is all the fucking time.

603
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:31,719
Yeah, I mean it is a
bit embarrassing. I understand the frustration of

604
00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:36,800
performing to an apathetic crowd, but
I don't necessarily think you can degrade them

605
00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:40,599
into liking you. And it's particularly
weird if you're in Royal Blood because it's

606
00:36:40,599 --> 00:36:44,800
a pretty bland band. Sweirds get
so uperity about people not but it's like

607
00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:46,559
if the guy from Razor Light,
I mean, this is actually an outrageous

608
00:36:46,559 --> 00:36:52,639
but imagine the guy from the Kooks, come fucking come on, Yeah,

609
00:36:52,639 --> 00:36:54,559
a bit of action, please,
I mean, it's definitely the actual of

610
00:36:54,599 --> 00:37:00,280
someone who thinks their band is a
lot harder and edgier than it is.

611
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:02,559
And again, I've been quite fan
of Royal Blood, to be honest,

612
00:37:02,599 --> 00:37:07,079
I mean not like intensely, but
the first record I think he's great,

613
00:37:07,519 --> 00:37:12,320
and the later two both have moments
on them. You know. We reviewed

614
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:14,480
their latest record where they went for
that kind of Queens of the Stone Age

615
00:37:14,599 --> 00:37:15,800
like dancing pivot, and we were
basically the owning people are like, it's

616
00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:19,880
not bad, Like it's constantly they
can do that perfectly. Well, it's

617
00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:24,239
fun. But again, from that
first album, it was straight into the

618
00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:30,119
kind of Radio one pipeline of like
never really having to kind of slum it

619
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:32,599
in the way most rock band who
aren't annoying in that way have to do.

620
00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:37,760
So it's like you don't really get
to pretend that you've kind of gone

621
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:44,239
that route. But who cares,
say the think pictures. I think I

622
00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:47,159
saw an out of one in the
eye like that that newspaper saying like,

623
00:37:47,599 --> 00:37:52,239
listen, Mike, it's not rock
and roll to degrade your audience, And

624
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:54,440
you're like, do you know what
else is in rock and roll? Doing

625
00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:59,679
what newspapers tell you to do.
But what kind of trap is that?

626
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:02,559
It's just as embarrassing as this is. I think the overreaction is almost like

627
00:38:02,679 --> 00:38:08,679
like fellas, can everyone calm down? Yeah, very much so. Iron

628
00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:15,280
Maiden play the first date of their
Future Past tour that they're gonna be undergoing

629
00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:16,400
over the course of the summer.
Maybe we're going forward about a year or

630
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:20,519
so. I don't know. And
Iron Maiden, you may be aware if

631
00:38:20,559 --> 00:38:22,800
you've been a long time fan.
They make it a thing where they announced

632
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:27,519
the entire setlist of the show in
advance. This isn't like, you know,

633
00:38:27,519 --> 00:38:29,760
the Metallica's situation where you're gonna be
going and you don't know what they're

634
00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:32,159
gonna be playing on any given night
apart from what was played the night before

635
00:38:32,199 --> 00:38:37,840
won't be on there, but it's
everything is there. That's the tour.

636
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:40,800
You know exactly what you're seeing.
I don't normally like to know setlers from

637
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:43,800
bands in advance, but because of
the way I Am made and sort of

638
00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:45,440
make it an event like that,
and they theme tours around it, right,

639
00:38:45,599 --> 00:38:50,719
So realistically, if you're going to
the theme tour, you know you're

640
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:52,159
going to be seeing a bunch of
Somewhere in Time and a bunch of sen

641
00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:54,960
jutsu, and that's kind of the
draw that the tour has been sold on,

642
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:59,079
so there's no real, you know, shock or surprise to be kind

643
00:38:59,079 --> 00:39:00,920
of spoiled in that regardless, if
you don't want to know at all what

644
00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:04,639
I am and they're going to be
playing on this tour, skip forward this

645
00:39:04,639 --> 00:39:07,360
podcast about five minutes time, but
a little overview of the setlist. I

646
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:10,960
mean, Alexander the Great is the
one that everyone was when they started that

647
00:39:12,079 --> 00:39:15,519
night posting everything one by one.
It was when everyone was waiting for and

648
00:39:15,559 --> 00:39:17,159
then they got it. And that's
the post if you look on their Twitter,

649
00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:20,840
has all of the Internet being like, yeah, they're doing it because

650
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:22,239
it's what we Again, everyone immediately
w oh you didn't got Somewhere in Time

651
00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:24,000
tour, Please play out some of
the Great for the first time, And

652
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:29,000
they've now done that, so fucking
great Elsewhere Caught Somewhere in Time is back

653
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:30,280
for the first time since nineteen eighty
seven. I think it is like this

654
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:34,079
since the tour for the album I
Guess Stranger and Strain Line they had been

655
00:39:34,079 --> 00:39:38,280
played since nineteen nine. Good stuff, Yeah, I mean the certlist looks

656
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:42,159
great. Often wonder if I still
care about Iron Maiden because I've not really

657
00:39:42,199 --> 00:39:45,239
liked the last couple of records,
and you know, Age really seems to

658
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:46,119
be kind of catching up with them, at least on the last couple of

659
00:39:46,199 --> 00:39:50,079
cycles. But then they know they
have to just play songs I like on

660
00:39:50,159 --> 00:39:52,840
a tour I won't be seeing and
we're all friends again. And the certlist

661
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:57,079
like it does look great, like
the songs they picked from Saint Jutsu that

662
00:39:57,119 --> 00:40:00,320
think Days a Future past Hell on
Earth, like some of the best songs

663
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:02,400
off that, And it's so cool
seeing them dig out those summer and time

664
00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:06,239
deep cuts are the ones you mentioned. The video of people. The videos

665
00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:08,199
I've seen of them playing Alexander the
Great are really cool because you see it

666
00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:13,079
kind of dawn on the attendees what's
about to happen, And that made me

667
00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:15,559
wish that I got a ticket.
But what else is cool is that elsewhere

668
00:40:15,599 --> 00:40:19,719
in the sets, so that the
five or so other songs they're playing they

669
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:22,400
didn't necessarily go for you know,
they didn't do a lot of the evil

670
00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:25,559
that men do, and you know
how many view of those like they do

671
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:30,280
The South Tide of Imien song is
always there. Yeah, I think it's

672
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:35,159
Um the Trooper that's in there as
well, so obvious, like they haven't

673
00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:37,320
done can I Player. Madness is
twenty fourteen, I think, which seems

674
00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:40,719
mental like such a staple single for
them and they just casually dropped it out

675
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:44,639
for a decade and I didn't even
realize. I would have liked to have

676
00:40:44,679 --> 00:40:46,199
seen Deja Vu on this tour,
but like doing five out of eight songs

677
00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:50,000
from the album on the tour theme, that's partly fun. I agree.

678
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:52,119
I think to send you two songs, I think they've got pretty good ones,

679
00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:53,960
like the time Machine is a bit
unfortunate, and I would rather say

680
00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:59,079
basically any other song from the album, but it is the Future Past tour.

681
00:40:59,199 --> 00:41:01,599
Of course they could have do time
Machine, but otherwise I think it

682
00:41:01,639 --> 00:41:05,639
was the title track and Stratego they
were doing on that kind of the end

683
00:41:05,639 --> 00:41:07,440
of when they did a download and
stuff, so they're not in there,

684
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:09,159
but day's Future Past. I agree, it's a great track of the longer

685
00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:12,760
ones. I think Death of Accounts
would probably end up being better live than

686
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:14,840
it is on record. When those
kind of like Red in the Black kind

687
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:17,159
of situations and Hell on Earth opening
the encore is a fantastic song. I'm

688
00:41:17,159 --> 00:41:20,840
really excited to see that one in
there. It's weird the songs that you

689
00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:23,480
don't see from Iron Maiden. It
seemed to just completely depend on what tours

690
00:41:23,519 --> 00:41:27,280
you catch them on, because I
saw a couple of random people being like

691
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:30,280
super excited about Wasted Years being the
overall closer, saying that I've been seeing

692
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:32,480
made in for how many years and
I'm still not seeing Wasted Years, And

693
00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:36,679
of course on the Somewhere in Time
theme tour, Sonny Natural, that's the

694
00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:38,639
close of that. The correct choice
I've seen I made once before. It

695
00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:42,719
was on the Book of Souls tour
when Wasted Years was also the closer,

696
00:41:43,039 --> 00:41:45,559
and they did not do Run to
the Hills, and they did not do

697
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:49,639
hallebe that name. And now those
aren't in there again having been brought back

698
00:41:49,679 --> 00:41:52,800
for the cycle that I missed,
and I think I guess part of the

699
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:57,840
almost the way this is like knowing
the setlist of this in advance compared to

700
00:41:57,840 --> 00:42:00,440
any other shows where I don't want
to know. It is like not holding

701
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:04,880
out for certain songs and then being
disappointed when they don't do them because like

702
00:42:05,519 --> 00:42:08,079
being in my position, but like
not having seen some of the most obvious

703
00:42:08,159 --> 00:42:12,599
ones that people who have been seeing
Ivan for thirty years. I've been like,

704
00:42:12,639 --> 00:42:14,679
oh, they playing those all the
time, but they haven't have liked,

705
00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:15,960
Like it's crazy, but you might
end up seeing Alexander the Great.

706
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:19,800
You know, there's no aces I
High in here, there's no two Minutes

707
00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:22,719
to Midnight, no The wicker Man. I've got to really make sure I

708
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:24,159
get my ass to the tour after
this one, basically to get some of

709
00:42:24,199 --> 00:42:28,719
those obvious boxes ticked off before they
retire. But for the theme that they've

710
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:30,559
stated and laid out, I think
it's like a mostly great set list.

711
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:35,679
Yeah, I mean, like I've
never seen nine Maiden, which is one

712
00:42:35,679 --> 00:42:37,920
of my real bucket list things I
need to tick off. And again,

713
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:40,320
when I saw this was announced,
I kind of thought, and I'm not

714
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:44,639
like keen on send Jutsu. Maybe
I should just sort of save my money

715
00:42:44,679 --> 00:42:46,960
and then go and see them doing
a sort of legacy tour again in the

716
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:50,719
future. But I'm kind of come
to the realization that we don't know how

717
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:52,199
many more of those that were going
to be And like you say, you

718
00:42:52,199 --> 00:42:55,960
don't even necessarily know which songs you're
gonna get on those like they're playing the

719
00:42:57,000 --> 00:43:00,960
Prisoner on this tour and that's oh
yeah, yeah, one of my five

720
00:43:00,079 --> 00:43:02,639
favorite Iron Maiden songs. And I
said, hey, Aces High, we

721
00:43:02,679 --> 00:43:07,400
will take us at Staple now.
But fifteen years ago they weren't playing it

722
00:43:07,599 --> 00:43:09,079
at all. They didn't play it. It's like the eight between like nineteen

723
00:43:09,119 --> 00:43:13,880
eighties six and two thousand and ten
or something like. The secret with Iron

724
00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:17,320
Maiden is it doesn't actually matter what
kind of setlists they're doing. It's always

725
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:21,079
great. Like you can go,
oh, I won't go for this album

726
00:43:21,119 --> 00:43:22,840
or whatever, I'm not into that
one, and then you look at the

727
00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:25,639
setlist and go, oh, hang
on, that's amazing, and the show

728
00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:30,679
is always amazing. It's you kind
of just have to realize it's always going

729
00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:34,480
to be fucking great until eventually they
hang it up. So yeah, it

730
00:43:34,519 --> 00:43:37,760
does look very very good indeed,
and Trent Resident and Atticus Ross are going

731
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:42,119
to be scoring the New Tea's Mute
Ninja Turtles film, which objectively is very

732
00:43:42,199 --> 00:43:45,679
funny, but also I don't quite
know what that's going to sound like because

733
00:43:45,679 --> 00:43:47,280
I can't What do you think about
Trent Resident film scores? It's either kind

734
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:51,719
of you know, sort of slightly
spooky piano or that kind of like you

735
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:54,159
know, bleepy blue peak kind of
you know, social network or whatever goal

736
00:43:54,199 --> 00:43:59,199
with dragon tattoo style kind of thing. I can't quite imagine either of those.

737
00:44:00,159 --> 00:44:04,519
Teen Also, I don't know what
it was, Like, I suspect

738
00:44:04,599 --> 00:44:09,079
it won't be considered part of the
Halo series. But for me, just

739
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:14,679
knowing that the man who wrote Happiness
in Slavery is now a colleague of John

740
00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:20,239
Cena is one of the strangest things. And this is all well and good,

741
00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:22,360
like, you know, good for
those guys. But if this is

742
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:25,239
delayed the next Nine Inch Nails album
by more than fifteen minutes, I will

743
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:28,800
be furious. Oh yeah, I'm
really ready for the Units nowls now.

744
00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:30,559
Like I liked the Ghosts kind of
projects a few years ago, but like

745
00:44:30,599 --> 00:44:34,480
it's been what five years now since
the last nine is Now is like proper

746
00:44:34,599 --> 00:44:37,519
you know, banned album, and
I was half an hour long it's not

747
00:44:37,679 --> 00:44:39,719
enough. Yeah again again that was
part of a sort of sequence where we

748
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:42,920
hadn't waited a long time because we
had the EPs before that. But like,

749
00:44:43,639 --> 00:44:45,960
either way, it's been five years
since that era of nine is now

750
00:44:46,079 --> 00:44:51,280
is concluded. I want more.
I really want more. But I would

751
00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:52,880
also watch the teenage Mute in Ninja
Tittle's film if this is what's going on

752
00:44:53,159 --> 00:44:57,800
questions Galgalander asked, what are some
of the iconic gigs that you could have

753
00:44:57,840 --> 00:45:00,480
gone to but didn't due to life, money, or other things that prevented

754
00:45:00,559 --> 00:45:05,800
you from attending. For me,
this is sort of a two ways of

755
00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:08,079
looking at this of like maybe gigs
I could have actually I had planned to

756
00:45:08,159 --> 00:45:12,800
go to or whatever. But in
general, like pre twenty fifteen, because

757
00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:15,519
of geographical removement, I always feel
like I missed that when people talking about

758
00:45:15,519 --> 00:45:19,800
going into you know, seeing shows
during that era, going to festivals from

759
00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:22,559
that era kind of early part of
the decade, because I just wasn't near

760
00:45:22,639 --> 00:45:24,719
them. Some of the kind of
instance that I really remember being bummed about

761
00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:30,280
missing, Like I remember there's a
Slipknot tour in twenty fifteen with corn where

762
00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:34,159
they did like sabotage together, and
I remember being bummed out about that.

763
00:45:34,199 --> 00:45:37,360
And I saw for the first time
later that summer there was the Destroyers of

764
00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:39,880
the Faith tour with Matal. How
much was Cannibal Corpse tripp to cocon enslaved

765
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:43,440
and Joffre a cowboy, and I
really wanted to do that. They bring

766
00:45:43,519 --> 00:45:45,639
me the Horizon Wembley show, which
I've been saying with people in the discord

767
00:45:45,639 --> 00:45:47,760
a little bit. We been talking
about bring me because of their new stuff.

768
00:45:49,039 --> 00:45:51,960
I still not seeing the Horizon,
and it's because I didn't see them

769
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:54,559
because I was far away back then, and I've not really had the impetus

770
00:45:54,599 --> 00:45:59,800
to go and see them lately.
But I think the big ones that I

771
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:05,519
maybe could have gone to but I
missed out on was twenty nineteen. I

772
00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:08,679
was after i'd finished UNI, so
I was back, you know, back

773
00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:13,320
at home, far away from everything, and it was prior to me moving

774
00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:16,039
to again a larger city and everything. So I didn't go to It's download

775
00:46:16,039 --> 00:46:19,039
that year, but I didn't get
a Bloodstock. It's the only Blosstock I've

776
00:46:19,039 --> 00:46:21,800
missed, and that was the Bloodstock
where Parkway Drive headline for the first time

777
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:23,760
and Saboton headline for the first time, and those are both things I really

778
00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:28,519
would have liked to have been at
to see. And also Roadburn that year.

779
00:46:28,599 --> 00:46:30,960
I really wish I'd made that my
first year to go to Roadburn because

780
00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:36,480
that was the Yether Triptokon did the
full orchestral requiem performance and I would have

781
00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:39,199
loved to have been there. And
the recent Ramstein Stadium shows actually one of

782
00:46:39,199 --> 00:46:42,679
the biggest ones, actually the full
on fucking you know, we're going to

783
00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:46,039
just burn a city to a furnace
stadium shows they've done in the last couple

784
00:46:46,039 --> 00:46:49,559
of years post pandemic. I couldn't
make it to any of those, and

785
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:52,239
I wish I had. Yeah,
I can't already think of that many major

786
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:57,039
was the one that leaps in mind
as the first time I remember being gutted

787
00:46:57,039 --> 00:47:00,960
I couldn't go to a gig was
in twenty twelve when Eurosis or twenty thirteen

788
00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:06,079
when eu Rosis and Godflesh going around
together, right, And I saw that

789
00:47:06,159 --> 00:47:09,280
package basically in twenty nineteen with job
on the front. I have no excuse

790
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:15,960
then, so I think at the
time was that hours twelve, so it

791
00:47:15,119 --> 00:47:19,360
was it was me fourteen to go
in with an adult or eighteen year own

792
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:23,119
or something like that. And I
asked both my parents, and my dad

793
00:47:23,199 --> 00:47:30,039
said, I asked my dad,
who likes a bit of rock and metal,

794
00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:31,119
and he said, oh, no, I'm on a business trip then,

795
00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:34,559
and I don't even know if I
bothered asking my mum. It just

796
00:47:34,639 --> 00:47:37,360
seemed like a sort of cruel to
make her do, to make it her

797
00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:43,400
fault somehow. But the other one
where I was really gutted was Converged during

798
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:47,280
blood Moon in London. That right, Literally I've very rarely actually missed contacts

799
00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:51,000
that I have been like planning to
go to and it's fallen through, like

800
00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:52,840
things I've had a ticket for or
whatever. The fucking converged blood Moon.

801
00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:55,400
First time it happened, I just
wasn't in the vicinity. But the second

802
00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:59,400
time people will remember if they've lioted
as apographer, you know a year or

803
00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:02,920
so had a ticket but they canceled
the Manchester show so fell through and I

804
00:48:04,119 --> 00:48:07,000
didn't get to go to the London
ones. So both times I missed converged

805
00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:08,119
blood Moon. And the only other
times that happened where I've had tickets not

806
00:48:08,159 --> 00:48:12,360
be able to go is I missed
Blood Incantation last year due to train strikes,

807
00:48:12,559 --> 00:48:15,800
and I missed Bolzo in Manchester literally
yesterday for the same reason. But

808
00:48:16,599 --> 00:48:20,119
there you go. The only time
I think I've missed something where I had

809
00:48:20,159 --> 00:48:22,239
a ticket was Wolves in the Throne
Room and I can't remember where the venue

810
00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:24,239
was, but it was really out
of the way, like it would have

811
00:48:24,280 --> 00:48:29,960
been paying together outside of driving.
And I was the closest of my friends

812
00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:34,119
to pass in their driving tests at
the time, and I promised all of

813
00:48:34,199 --> 00:48:37,360
them that I would pass before the
gig, and I did not, so

814
00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:45,679
we couldn't go. Sad Joe Windows
says asked to listen to Skindra's new song

815
00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:47,599
Love, I thought it was better
live than on recording. So which song

816
00:48:47,639 --> 00:48:52,440
gets the biggest upgrade when played live? I mean my example of this was

817
00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:57,000
when I saw Clutch at Download twenty
seventeen and they played an early version of

818
00:48:57,039 --> 00:49:00,519
How to Shake Hands, and I
still think that version was than what we

819
00:49:00,599 --> 00:49:02,519
got on the Book of Bad Decisions. It was less blown out, punchier,

820
00:49:02,719 --> 00:49:07,760
tighter. The lyrics got a bit
kind of wordy in the studio version,

821
00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:09,280
and I wasn't I wasn't keen on
that version for a while after that.

822
00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:13,480
Now I think it's a great song, But that's the only example I

823
00:49:13,519 --> 00:49:15,360
can think of seeing a song live. I'm being super excited to hear the

824
00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:20,280
record, and then they're not really
living up to it. For songs that

825
00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:25,079
are already else. The one that
struck me was Godflesh Damnation twenty twenty one

826
00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:30,159
and they played Predominance, which is
an album track on Pure and it might

827
00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:35,360
just be the most that was fucking
head nasty thing I've ever seen live,

828
00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:37,679
Like it sounds great on record,
but it was just I was not prepared

829
00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:44,599
for how filthy that was. Yeah. Really, some people say, use

830
00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:47,039
Fear of the Dark by Maiden one
of the big examples of this of like

831
00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:51,159
maybe not even having time for it
on record, but it'd be an amazing

832
00:49:51,239 --> 00:49:52,199
live. Obviously, it is better
live than on record because you have the

833
00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:55,039
full crowd participation aspect. But I've
always loved that song on record anyway,

834
00:49:55,159 --> 00:49:58,239
but Maiden do have them talking about
it. And again I entered The Red

835
00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:00,599
and the Black from Book as old
big one. I like the Books as

836
00:50:00,639 --> 00:50:04,559
an album, I had to say
again on that tour, which again was

837
00:50:04,559 --> 00:50:06,639
colored with the emotion of me seeing
them for the third time. But like

838
00:50:06,679 --> 00:50:08,400
a Turn it should fail and Speed
of Light and that stuff, they worse

839
00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:10,559
done as life. You got to
say, even if you weren't world on

840
00:50:10,559 --> 00:50:15,360
the world record, I M always
example of like something that was quite poor

841
00:50:15,519 --> 00:50:20,280
on record that worked out better is
most of the recent Inflames stuff, like

842
00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:22,840
because the production on Inflames records,
I think Battles is always the one that

843
00:50:22,880 --> 00:50:25,719
stands out to me is like they're
having just the worst production that record,

844
00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:29,920
and people like when people go,
that's the shittiest Inflames record. I probably

845
00:50:29,960 --> 00:50:32,400
think Songs wise is a little bit
better than like Siren Charms, for example.

846
00:50:32,639 --> 00:50:36,239
But I understand people say because it
sounds so bad, but then you

847
00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:38,280
saw some of them live and it's
like, oh, they're actually not terrible,

848
00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:42,519
and you know you can play it
with aggression everything you just haven't in

849
00:50:42,599 --> 00:50:46,119
the recorded version. And I guess
some of the ones I was racking my

850
00:50:46,159 --> 00:50:49,159
brain feast. I'm sure there are
some that I'm missing, But sometimes you

851
00:50:49,199 --> 00:50:52,480
get things that have really tacky,
inorganic kind of pop production or whatever,

852
00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:54,519
and it's allowed to breathe a little
bit more and kind of a live band

853
00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:59,280
situation. Some of the recent News
stuff is a bit like that. It

854
00:50:59,360 --> 00:51:02,199
doesn't quite save Instant History by Biffy
Cliro, but a lot of their stuff

855
00:51:02,320 --> 00:51:06,119
is better live than I'm record.
We're spect about the kind of the Wembley

856
00:51:06,239 --> 00:51:08,440
live album they deal on any revolutions
and that kind of thing. Speaking of

857
00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:10,559
Baroness lately as well, I've not
seen them in Golden Gray, but you've

858
00:51:10,559 --> 00:51:14,320
got to imagine some of the Golden
gray stuff is allowed to, you know,

859
00:51:14,920 --> 00:51:16,039
be what it can be a little
bit more in the kind of live

860
00:51:16,199 --> 00:51:21,519
environment. Is a non metal answer
as well. But I call me maybe

861
00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:23,920
is not a Kylie ray Jepson song
that I that I reach for when I'm

862
00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:27,760
in one of my binges when I
listened to emotion or whatever. It's obviously

863
00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:30,480
a great pop song, it just
doesn't fit into my idea of what I

864
00:51:30,519 --> 00:51:37,119
guess the Kylie that I listened to
but live every time fucking elation, let

865
00:51:37,159 --> 00:51:39,639
me tell. And she drops out
well early as well, because she knows

866
00:51:39,679 --> 00:51:43,960
her fans aren't actually waiting around to
see that, like, so you'll be

867
00:51:44,079 --> 00:51:45,519
like three four songs in and you
will suddenly get it and it's like,

868
00:51:45,679 --> 00:51:52,960
ah, here we go. It's
fucking brilliant. Seriously. The other one

869
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:55,719
that lives on my slight step away
from Karli rag Jepson, but you mentioned

870
00:51:55,800 --> 00:52:00,480
mentioning it with the Fear of the
Dark comparison, is I've always the custom

871
00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:07,360
by slip Knot on record. It's
so stilted and is really kind of inorganic

872
00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:12,079
sounding, and that song Live really
flies because it's just allows to sound like

873
00:52:12,119 --> 00:52:14,679
a runaway train. I think you
could probably say all of the Great Chapter

874
00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:16,400
in that regard, because I like
the Great Chapter, but I think it's

875
00:52:16,599 --> 00:52:22,360
probably the worst slipknot production job,
and certainly a customers a great example because

876
00:52:22,360 --> 00:52:25,719
of how furious it becomes life.
I think in general that stuff was better

877
00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:30,360
on the road. Arna Strada says, do you remember hearing any reviews on

878
00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:34,400
TNM before you were a host that
you strongly disagreed with? So many?

879
00:52:34,519 --> 00:52:36,800
Let me tell you that's the funny
thing about last week's show. There were

880
00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:42,000
so many instances of Phase one TNM, mainly when they spoke about proper heavy

881
00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:44,639
metal stuff, because I always felt
it was a bit like kind of two

882
00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:47,119
nineties punks that whenever they spoke about
older metal stuff, there was usually some

883
00:52:47,280 --> 00:52:52,039
kind of disconnect there. Science and
the snow By Trivium is maybe one of

884
00:52:52,079 --> 00:52:54,000
the biggest example of like when they
were shitting on an album that I thought

885
00:52:54,039 --> 00:52:57,079
was great, and I think time
proved me right a little bit there,

886
00:52:57,119 --> 00:53:00,960
at least in terms of like it
being a crucial part of their story in

887
00:53:01,079 --> 00:53:04,599
that regard, although I did get
beast to say when we did the Trivium

888
00:53:04,599 --> 00:53:07,960
special it was much better than you
remembered it. Being Repentless by Slayer as

889
00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:09,360
another one that I just seemed to
like much more than everyone else. But

890
00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:13,400
in general, there was a lot
of kind of like, you know,

891
00:53:15,199 --> 00:53:17,239
folk metal is inherently a stupid gibbeck
because it's got a flute in it or

892
00:53:17,239 --> 00:53:21,480
something like that, and I just
like I just knew on that podcast it

893
00:53:21,559 --> 00:53:24,599
was going to be possible for them
to ever admit that tourists as actually wrote

894
00:53:24,639 --> 00:53:27,920
some pretty spectacular songs back in the
day, right Like, it was just

895
00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:30,679
never going to happen. You had
to go elsewhere for that kind of stuff.

896
00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:34,360
Things that got covered that I didn't
think get the praise they deserve,

897
00:53:34,519 --> 00:53:38,440
maybe like the couple of examples like
the debut Astronoid album Air is one that

898
00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:43,000
I was kind of willing them to
go a little bit harder on. There

899
00:53:43,039 --> 00:53:45,119
were obviously things that they were big
into that I just didn't get either,

900
00:53:45,159 --> 00:53:47,679
which is fine. I definitely think
didn't think Eat the Elephant was that great,

901
00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:52,639
but it was mostly just heavy metal
stuff on a sort of fundamental taste

902
00:53:52,679 --> 00:53:54,719
level, like I got used to
as a fan of the podcast, just

903
00:53:54,880 --> 00:53:59,360
them sneering at these bands I love, like their meritless, like Helloween or

904
00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:02,079
Saxon or whatever. And now we've
got Sam for that to continue being wrong.

905
00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:06,800
So what like you this will be
interesting because obviously yours include stuff that

906
00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:10,000
I've been involved. Well, there's
only one that really stands out on that

907
00:54:10,119 --> 00:54:14,880
front, but there's always a lot
of bands, particularly Same Phase one.

908
00:54:15,199 --> 00:54:16,480
They've got a lot of praise that
don't really do anything for me. So

909
00:54:16,599 --> 00:54:21,519
I'm not really big into architects while
she sleeps into Shikari Buried somewherew those kind

910
00:54:21,519 --> 00:54:23,000
of abs. But it feels kind
of like cheating to say, yeah,

911
00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:27,159
I disagree, because you know,
I think I think it's more interesting to

912
00:54:27,679 --> 00:54:30,280
hear ones that got slagged off that
you want to stick up for. Yeah,

913
00:54:30,519 --> 00:54:34,159
yeah, I mean the one on
that front, and I don't even

914
00:54:34,199 --> 00:54:36,840
know if it was formally reviewed,
but they were very dismissive of it at

915
00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:38,559
the time was Meliora. They both
kind of thought it was boring, and

916
00:54:38,760 --> 00:54:40,360
at the time I just thought it
was the best thing ever, and I

917
00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:43,400
just, yeah, I bees I
know, for a fact, Bees like

918
00:54:43,519 --> 00:54:46,159
came around and it's super hard,
like he went from not quite getting it

919
00:54:46,239 --> 00:54:49,400
too, this is one of the
best albums of the decade. I think

920
00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:52,320
that's just the thing with with you
know, ghost albums taking a little while

921
00:54:52,320 --> 00:54:54,880
to sort of reveal themselves. Yeah, and I was kind of in the

922
00:54:54,920 --> 00:55:00,000
same campus you were them Silence in
the Snow. I think we're with records

923
00:55:00,079 --> 00:55:04,440
like that, you often soften on
them after what the band does next,

924
00:55:04,440 --> 00:55:07,320
because the only comparison I think obviously
sort of someone was Hailed to the King,

925
00:55:07,599 --> 00:55:09,000
where it felt like everyone fucking hated
that record, and then when the

926
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:12,800
stage came out suddenly people were like, Oh, it's just a sort of

927
00:55:13,320 --> 00:55:16,119
a little deviation. It just makes
them another record that I've always been into

928
00:55:16,159 --> 00:55:19,920
from day one, right, Yeah, well exactly. I mean, in

929
00:55:20,079 --> 00:55:22,159
terms of albums have got a lot
of praise, I could maybe would have

930
00:55:22,199 --> 00:55:25,360
liked what could have liked that I
didn't understand. I know, Bees was

931
00:55:25,400 --> 00:55:30,320
really into the I Carry a Viewer
and not with a Corey Taylor solo record,

932
00:55:31,239 --> 00:55:36,639
I know, but I thought it
had some decent tracks on it that

933
00:55:36,679 --> 00:55:38,360
were just more like the kind of
Stone Hour stuff, And I think overall,

934
00:55:38,519 --> 00:55:43,119
it got it got made out that
the entire album was some kind of

935
00:55:43,199 --> 00:55:46,119
fucking just car crash, when it
was only a handful of kind of moments

936
00:55:46,199 --> 00:55:50,079
where he was being a bit goofy. Yeah, obviously it was just like

937
00:55:50,119 --> 00:55:52,480
a perfectly solid radio rock album.
Yeah. I don't know from getting this

938
00:55:52,559 --> 00:55:55,039
quot exact it, but Be said
something like, oh, if Blackstone Sherry

939
00:55:55,119 --> 00:55:58,880
put this out, you know,
people would love it, and it's like

940
00:55:59,519 --> 00:56:04,119
it would be the worst Blackstone Sherry
record. I am sorry for me again.

941
00:56:04,320 --> 00:56:07,599
The best songs on it. This
Maybe it's just the Corey Tailer factor

942
00:56:07,639 --> 00:56:08,599
and the fact that I love his
voice and I would listen to him singing

943
00:56:08,679 --> 00:56:13,480
stuff more hand, But I yeah, I probably put myself closer to Bees

944
00:56:13,480 --> 00:56:15,280
in that regard, even though overall
I don't think the album's great. Yeah.

945
00:56:15,679 --> 00:56:19,639
The other one that came to mind
was the self titled Lamb of God

946
00:56:19,679 --> 00:56:22,360
record. I think Be said it
was he thought it was as good as

947
00:56:22,400 --> 00:56:23,760
the first as the four classics they
put in the two thousand was like in

948
00:56:23,840 --> 00:56:27,679
that echelon, which I didn't hear
at the time and I don't hear now.

949
00:56:28,079 --> 00:56:31,079
In terms of one more recently that
I was sort of the phase of

950
00:56:31,239 --> 00:56:38,840
Alec Samon yourself was Van Weezer getting
an absolute love in here and but that

951
00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:44,679
is one of the most disappointed I've
been by a record experiences of my life,

952
00:56:44,719 --> 00:56:45,960
Like I was so excited, and
it was the fact that the run

953
00:56:46,039 --> 00:56:51,239
up was like two years the seasons
at least. Oh, it is better

954
00:56:51,280 --> 00:56:58,280
than seasons. Literally as many good
songs in like for me, like end

955
00:56:58,320 --> 00:57:00,519
of the Game, all the good
ones, beginning of the end, Precious

956
00:57:00,559 --> 00:57:04,440
Metal Girl. The rest can kind
of get in the bin. You don't

957
00:57:04,440 --> 00:57:07,400
like Van Weezer, you don't like
I choose to live. All the fucking

958
00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:15,519
skeletons are code out of the club
cool. The latest event over only that

959
00:57:15,599 --> 00:57:17,719
something our Patreon was our album club
Pack for the end of May, where

960
00:57:17,760 --> 00:57:22,719
we did go Gaga for nine inch
Nails, Broken Ep, Baroness's Yellow and

961
00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:27,679
Green double album, The Hotelier's Emo
Scene, classic Home like No Places There,

962
00:57:27,880 --> 00:57:30,880
and some fist pumping black and roll
cat walking from a satiricon in Now

963
00:57:30,960 --> 00:57:35,400
Diabolical Baroness in particular, We've got
a lot of feedback from people either remembering

964
00:57:35,440 --> 00:57:37,400
how awesome that album is. Perhaps
if you've only listened to to purple or

965
00:57:37,440 --> 00:57:39,880
Golden Gray for a little while,
or even better hearing it for the first

966
00:57:39,920 --> 00:57:43,519
time and thinking, WHOA, this
band is great. That's really great to

967
00:57:43,599 --> 00:57:45,760
say. I would really encourage people
to check out the Hotelier and the satirical

968
00:57:45,760 --> 00:57:49,119
albums as well, dependent on where
your tastes, you would direct you.

969
00:57:49,400 --> 00:57:52,360
Because it was a good batch of
winners this time. Yeah, I think

970
00:57:52,559 --> 00:57:57,400
for me my favorite album club we've
done because A it's so different. But

971
00:57:57,719 --> 00:58:00,960
it was just nice to be nice
about things because it fun as it is,

972
00:58:00,440 --> 00:58:07,480
you know sometimes everyone, but like
just being able to discuss classics and

973
00:58:07,639 --> 00:58:12,440
sort of four different corners, different
time frames and everything, and to be

974
00:58:12,519 --> 00:58:15,360
honest, just remembering how good SETI
con are, Like I was saying,

975
00:58:16,760 --> 00:58:20,639
yeah, but I'm I'm guilty.
I'm as guilt as anyone. Like so

976
00:58:20,800 --> 00:58:23,440
often I kind of haven't say dismissed
them, but I forget how much I

977
00:58:23,519 --> 00:58:29,199
like them, And the fact that
that record, which is probably my fourth

978
00:58:29,280 --> 00:58:31,920
or fifth favorite Seatiricon record, and
I had nothing negative to say about it,

979
00:58:32,079 --> 00:58:35,920
like none of us did. I
thought was it was nice and it

980
00:58:35,960 --> 00:58:39,119
felt like there was a sort of
a an accord where you kind of put

981
00:58:39,159 --> 00:58:43,239
your hand out to Sam and said
nice things about the hotelier, and then

982
00:58:43,320 --> 00:58:46,719
Sam was into a nice about stir
Con. It felt like like you guys,

983
00:58:46,800 --> 00:58:50,639
you you shake hands and be friends
again. Yeah, there you go.

984
00:58:50,760 --> 00:58:52,920
So that was a patron at com
slash. That's no matter. We

985
00:58:52,920 --> 00:58:54,639
will have more up there soon.
It's the way of our horror series next

986
00:58:54,639 --> 00:58:58,360
to that, but also then more
specials. We've had some request to bring

987
00:58:58,400 --> 00:59:00,519
back to them a kind of the
real long time T and M favorite special,

988
00:59:00,599 --> 00:59:05,000
so we'll be doing some of that
over the summer. Rest Assured releases

989
00:59:05,119 --> 00:59:07,480
for the first week of June is
a fucking massive one. I can't believe

990
00:59:07,480 --> 00:59:10,400
these next three records are all out
at the same time. But event seven

991
00:59:10,440 --> 00:59:14,239
fold, they're going to kick us
off with Life is But a Dream Dot

992
00:59:14,320 --> 00:59:16,559
Dot Dot, the first record in
fucking ages. It feels like it really

993
00:59:16,599 --> 00:59:20,960
does feel about the stage it was
so long ago, and this record is

994
00:59:21,039 --> 00:59:23,079
going to be I'm very glad that
we are going to be reviewing this in

995
00:59:23,199 --> 00:59:28,559
like a few weeks time, as
opposed to write off the bat because acclaim

996
00:59:28,639 --> 00:59:30,760
wise, in terms of reviews and
everything, it seems to be pretty golden.

997
00:59:31,280 --> 00:59:35,199
But also there's been a lot of
people saying these singles don't many make

998
00:59:35,239 --> 00:59:38,039
any fucking sense, And I've long
been saying that I'm not going to really

999
00:59:38,159 --> 00:59:40,599
gonna enjoyed the first one it came
out, but it's like, I don't

1000
00:59:40,599 --> 00:59:45,119
really think this is going to reveal
lows of what you are until you get

1001
00:59:45,119 --> 00:59:49,719
the full album. So sit on
it, digest it, let's see what's

1002
00:59:49,719 --> 00:59:52,320
going on. Maybe take less time, but hopefully just as for fillings of

1003
00:59:52,360 --> 00:59:54,119
people. It's the Food Fighters have
got their new album called but Here We

1004
00:59:54,199 --> 00:59:59,000
Are, another obviously mementous record for
many reasons, and also Rancid I've got

1005
00:59:59,039 --> 01:00:04,360
one Tomorrow never comes. Buck Cherry
speaking of a hard rock greats on the

1006
01:00:04,440 --> 01:00:09,679
Table level, Volume ten ten ten
Buck Cherries, Volume ten. It's such

1007
01:00:09,719 --> 01:00:17,400
a stupid album title. How embarrassing
is that? It's just a fair play

1008
01:00:17,440 --> 01:00:19,880
for them to be, like,
you know what, We've come a long

1009
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way, We've really reached a landmark
with this one. But wowe Pupil Slicer

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Blossom, I'm fascinated to get my
teeth into to this record. This sounds

1011
01:00:27,480 --> 01:00:30,719
like it's gonna be really maybe surprising
in terms of the things people slices might

1012
01:00:30,760 --> 01:00:34,559
be thrown out there. That's my
hope at least. But one of our

1013
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again recent T and M favorite bands
are going to be good to see what

1014
01:00:37,719 --> 01:00:42,679
they have got going on their Tiger
Cub the Perfume of Decay. I've never

1015
01:00:42,760 --> 01:00:45,480
really been one for Tiger Cub,
but I know that they are a band

1016
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in the kind of UK rock scene
that have had people invest in them along

1017
01:00:47,960 --> 01:00:51,679
the way, and I've heard some
good things about this record, so that

1018
01:00:51,840 --> 01:00:54,079
is out there also, Bully lucky
for you in the kind of alt rock

1019
01:00:54,880 --> 01:00:59,159
area this band. I might be
making us up, but I feel like

1020
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TNM reviewed one of their records like
way back in the day, like fucking

1021
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maybe twenty fifteen times that I haven't
heard from them in ages, or I'm

1022
01:01:06,239 --> 01:01:08,480
completely imagining that and it's someone completely
different. But if you're like kind of

1023
01:01:08,480 --> 01:01:12,920
like you know your your grunge rock
stuff that's out there. I'm a Soulberg

1024
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that is the frontman of the band
Lepreus has got a solo record out called

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sixteen. I don't really know what
his solo stuff is going to sound like,

1026
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but he is one of the best
singers on planet Earth. So I

1027
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will go and listen to what he's
got Tortured Demon, Rise of the Lifeless.

1028
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This is a band of I believe
they're like, well young, like

1029
01:01:25,760 --> 01:01:29,480
it's one of those kind of bunch
of sixteen year old starting a band kind

1030
01:01:29,519 --> 01:01:30,400
of thing where you listen to it
and go like this sounds like it's got

1031
01:01:30,480 --> 01:01:35,239
some promise, kind of you know, thrashcom metal corese sort of situation.

1032
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If you're interested in that, you
can go and check it out. Some

1033
01:01:37,320 --> 01:01:40,039
sort of doomy stonery stuff. We've
got Witch Hazel with for the Sacrament and

1034
01:01:40,159 --> 01:01:44,679
a bon Zilla check this one out. Dab City is what they've called New

1035
01:01:44,800 --> 01:01:49,480
Records. Silly staff from Bonzilla.
But there you go in the underground necro

1036
01:01:49,639 --> 01:01:52,079
fire, burning shadows in the southern
light. That's some kind of a loodic

1037
01:01:52,079 --> 01:01:58,119
black metal for some really nasty staffs. Fanty Fact Sath with Hive Mind Narcosis,

1038
01:01:58,239 --> 01:02:00,239
and a couple of EPs for you. One in I guess the hardcore

1039
01:02:00,320 --> 01:02:07,360
area, American Nightmare Dedicate to the
Next World and a UK based extreme metal

1040
01:02:07,519 --> 01:02:12,039
EP damn in World Turned Hell.
Thank you for being with us at TNM.

1041
01:02:12,079 --> 01:02:14,800
Once again, we really do appreciate
it. You are off to download

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01:02:14,880 --> 01:02:16,360
next week. Elliot so next time
we hear from you will be on the

1043
01:02:16,440 --> 01:02:22,320
other side of that talking about how
much I love Hailstorm. So Sam will

1044
01:02:22,360 --> 01:02:24,280
be in your place next week where
we can hear from them and what they've

1045
01:02:24,280 --> 01:02:30,360
been doing. When Elliott returns,
we will have our returning download review Megathon,

1046
01:02:30,719 --> 01:02:32,119
and after that it will be the
monthly reviews where we'll be talking about

1047
01:02:32,119 --> 01:02:36,320
some of those huge albums that we've
just mentioned. So cheers, see you're there.