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The following is a presentation of play
Fly Sports properties in Michigan State Sports Properties.

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Um, well, welcome everybody.
It is Tuesday, July eleven,

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twenty twenty three. We are the
only show about Spartan Dogs hosted by Spartan

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Dogs. This is Sparta in man
shoe. I mean holdt. Jason Straightharn

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played during the Perlis and Saving era
as a center and team captain. Couldn't

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do this about my two dogs in
the fight who both join us today.

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I couldn't do it without Otis Wiley, the Big Boss, Paul Hawking hard

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hidden safety from the John l and
Mark D'Antonio aris with his mate ju Chow

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Chow culprit. He just holds a
single season touchdown record as a running back

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from Michigan State. Yes, this
is your first time, we welcome you.

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If this is not your first time, we thank you. Don't forget

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you. Let's do that. The
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to roll on this thing because we
got a jam pact show. Fellas,

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we have a jam Pact show.
The big news coming out of you know,

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East Lansing with you one of our
guests that's coming up next. Right

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now, we want to just comment
talk about Musin Louhammad, a Spartan dog

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has now been entered into the Ring
of Thing although Panthers Hall of Honor for

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the Carolina Panthers. Let's just you
know, let's talk about that. Don't

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have a graphic, you gotta say, gotta be fluid here. He's a

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great, He's a great wide receiver, a great Spartan great and he had

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a heck of a career, you
know with the Carolina Panthers. You know,

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I helped lead them to that to
their only like only super Bowl that

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they've been to. Um. So, you know, really really good player,

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really good uh, you know Spartan
and you know, congratulations him as

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old as to say kudos to him. Get you like that old um.

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Yeah. So if you think about
Moose Man, uh, remember the story

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of coach Saban talked about, you
know, giving up on players like may

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have had some bouts when they were
there at Michigan State. And he talks

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about Moose uh and how Moose turned
his life around and obviously, uh,

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now it's about to be inducted into
the Panthers Hall of Honor. Man.

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So it's good to see another Spartan
dog, former player putting off for the

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white and still doing that, you
know as he's hung up the shoes and

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retiredent was good to s so muse
Muhammad, congratulations. Man. Got to

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give him on this show as a
guest and just talk to him about this

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great honor. We'd love to do
that, Moose, We're coming at you

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real soon. Look, he was
a great player. They're watching us in

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d C. Fell Let's go d
on the line here Florida, real real

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quick. I want to give a
quick shout out to uh you know this

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is Sparta MSU podcast fam. Tom's
Story invited me to a golf out in

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yesterday. Uh Met, some new
new listeners are gonna be jumping on Jenny

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Patrick O'Brien. We didn't win the
tournament, but we had a lot of

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fun. Let you shoot, Let
you shoot wonder as a team. Ye

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shout out to Tom Story, Good
job Tom, and then watching us out

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in Hawhite. Yes, sir,
guys had a couple of Spartans drafted in

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the MLB Major League Baseball draft.
You know, let's give kudos to Mitch

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Jabb who went forty second overall to
the Pittsburgh Pirates. Yeah, that's short

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stop right there. That's that's awesome. And then first baseman Brock Brandenburg to

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Miami the Marlins, number seventy eight
overall. But look, we got actually

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three guys now we just had the
one added in guys as a lady.

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Yeah, catcher Brian Broker Tampa Bay
three overall and round thirteen. And it's

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look, anybody who's able to take
that next step to their professional ranks and

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their sport. Uh, that's that's
a huge feat with Mitch Man. So

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that's the highest draft pick we've had
apparently since nineteen ninety eight. That's what

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I'm seeing. Is that correct,
Creis Beef, I'm wrong. Anybody seen

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that? Hey, look, you
know better than we do. Yeah,

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so we gotta get coach Boss on
there because that you know, for this

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year, you know, we talked
about we followed them, we covered them

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a little bit and finally getting back
to the Big Ten tournament. Uh,

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you know, the program is in
great hands. We talked about a revent

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and staff and bringing in people that
are able to train and develop our guys.

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We got to bring coach Boss in
and get some highlighting love to that

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program. So stay tuned. He
will be a guest later down in the

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month of August probably, So congratulations, Fellows, I'm taking that next leap

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in your professional career. And we
all know Major League Baseball is a different

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beast when it comes to that whole
Minor is going up all the ways in

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Major so people think you're going straight
to the Major's man right to grind it

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out Man and Jordan had to do
it. Michael Jordan's stent in the you

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know baseball world was doing doing You're
right, you know, Jake Boss doing

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a phenomenal job. They're brought in
Adam Eason and look, I mean now

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he got all this Major League you
know, I mean this is different Michigan

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State on the baseball man. We
love it. Jared Jackson Fellas was selected

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to Team USA for the FIBA Men's
World Cup FIBA FIBA met Hey, that's

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just you know, another you know, product of from coach Izzo. You

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know, Spartans going Spartan things.
You know. Congratulations to uh Jaren and

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uh you know he's going to represent
well you know, he's had a tremendous

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career in the NBA so far here, tremendous career you know at Michigan State

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is just going to continue and this
is just building adding to his, uh

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you know, legacy as a basketball
player. I don't know that fellas like

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we didn't like winning season when you
got like every level of some spartans showing

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showing up. You know what I'm
saying. It's just good to be a

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part of it. Man Like,
it's a it's a brotherhood, sisterhood in

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any sport, you celebrate our own. But that's it's always a two tests

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in to Jaren Jackson. Uh,
you know, he's the face that chise

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man Like. Obviously his running mate
you won't bring up, you know what

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his running mate was going through.
I have been through. But you know,

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Jared Jackson has been truly year over
year improving um with the defensive player

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of the Year, where like,
this guy's truly has changed the tide.

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And uh it's good for it for
him and his his brand, but good

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for the Michigan State basketball brand too. The time is a effect, absolutely

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right. We see Jay Chevy coming
on checking in from Atlanta, Hartsfield Jackson

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Airport, the DC. What good
luck that man airport. It's a little

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thing. It's a little bit of
airport. Or Atlanta. Atlanta Airport has

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some of the best food. Now
go now, I don't know. I

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don't there's just a ton of good
food there, you know. Okay,

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so you don't have them pop shops. Bojang was every time Bojangles. That's

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that's my stop in Charlotte. If
I happened to make a connecting, I'm

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gonna stop in Charlotte and hit that
Bojangles. Real quake, stay last little

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guys. Like Friday was a special
day. You know, we had a

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commitment ceremony. It was Nick Marsha's
commitment with Mama trying the whole family down

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the River rouge. You know,
we were there live and it was a

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phenomenal video that we were able to
see that he had. We can't play

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it because the music, which it
burns me up, but that song is

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that song perfect? But that was
my weekend theme after that, you know,

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everyone then like, okay, we've
heard at the best part is like

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they were like, Nick, where
are you going? I was like,

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oh well, that was further into
let's bring them on on. We have

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Nick Marsh and Mama Tron joins this, Shollo, what's happening? Hey?

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What is welcome? Welcome officially,
Well, welcome to Spartan Nation. Thank

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you. It's bad. You're muted. You're muted. I'll get it right,

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I'll get it right. Let's see. Okay, here we go.

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There you go. There, you
hit the calories in. You gotta you

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gotta get ready for that that Spartan
dog meal plan. Ready. Oh he's

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there. You're good, You're good
right now? Yeah? Um, next,

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so let's let's jump into it.
You know, like we said,

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you know, congratulations to you on
that. Um you were committed to Michigan

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State early? Do you de committed
because you know, you wanted to check

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out the process, check everything out
what went on behind after the d commitment

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and uh, and then what brought
you back to mission? Like after the

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D commitment, you know, I
just got back out there, joined the

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recruiting process really and I just got
a chance to see everything out there and

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being able to come back home and
realize that it's like nothing like home was.

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It was a great feeling, you
know, coming off the official visit.

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You know, it was. It
was a great place to be and

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you know, Mission State was always
my first love, so I felt great

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coming back home. M Then talk
about uh when you were able to give

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Coach Hawk call after you did it
or before you did it, like talk

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talk talked behind the scenes. I
know he was I know he was probably

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gigging too. And me and Coach
Hawk, we just talked one on one,

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you know, every now and day. You know, we get real

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deep, you know, Uh,
me and Coach hawks conversations. Uh,

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you know, we just we just
you know, chop it up here and

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there. Uh, you know,
we just really got into like the depth

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chart. Uh, you know,
things I can do and at you and

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you know how how great I could
be there. And just having that talk

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with him really, you know,
made me realize, you know, what

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chances I had, you know,
to be the best version of myself there.

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So me and me and Coach I
just had those conversations every now and

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there speaking of that, you know, when you're talking about you know,

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the family atmosphere, you're talking to
Coach Hawk and the staff obviously, but

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the moment that everybody goes back to
it. On your official visits to East

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Lansing. When you're in Spartan Stadium
and you you're on the field with your

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grandma, grandmama trying right here.
You know, how do you beat this?

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Talk about this moment right here?
Nick? Wait, you said them?

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Do you say that woman talking the
moment when you're dancing on the field

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with grandmama tried in Spartan Stadium.
We just you know, anytime we hear

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some music, we just get to
dancing. And it was just one of

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those moments here. You know,
we just let our feelings to get to

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it and we got the umpment and
we got to you know, doing our

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littlement. So it was just a
great moment to share my grandma. You

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know, that was my first officially
taking her on, so you know,

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it was a great moment to experience
with her. You know, I wanted

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her to get out to see a
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show her what I was doing.
And you know what with football, you

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know, our opportunities come with you
know, I just wanted to start out.

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We shared a great moment throughout the
whole official visit. You know,

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she had a lot of great energy. You know, it went throughout the

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whole business. So it was pretty
fun. You know. The really big

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thing. We talk about this on
the show and this is for you,

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Mamma Tron, and we talk about
you know, Coach Talker and his staff

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has done a really good job with
not just recruiting the player, but also

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recruiting the entire family and having the
seeing a moment like that on the field.

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You know, the family out there, you know, able to participate

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in that all the attention, Yes, what's on Nick, but not all

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on Nick was also on the entire
family wall. How did that, you

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know, really affect you and help
you guys, make you discussion that family

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atmosphere, it was It was major
because like Nick said, my mom,

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she's not a big traveler, doesn't
like their planes, and her hurt was

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always there major will like she was
there the entire visit, Like, yeah,

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I hope he's here. I love
Coach talk I love Coach Tucks and

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just being able to have that family
atmosphere and they always it's always like that

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with the girls with Nick's sisters,
like they love it there. The people

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know us, the staff knows us, the coaches know us. So that

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was that was real major for us, that official visit. It was just

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like, like Nick said, like
coming home, everybody felt like this is

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it? The entire family. Um
My sister who usually comes to the games

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with us, she was there and
she was like, man like it hasn't

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changed. So yeah, that was
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when you have that moment of mother
knows your son's best, right, Like,

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you know, you know what he
was dealing with as a young man

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making this decision for his future and
for him to make a family decision of

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staying home nable for y'all to come
and see him, and you know,

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if he was to go elsewhere,
you have to deal with any traveling issues

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or getting to across the state lines, whatever the case may be. But

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when did you feel like you had
a sense of like, I know where

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Nick's hearts at and I know he's
gonna make a decision. Was there a

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moment in time that you had that
already inclination, that mother intuition. It

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was after that phone call with me, right, so she was trying to

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get it out of me so bad. I was like, I have no

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idea, I don't know. So
this by far was the hardest thing because

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I can feel in my heart what
I want him to do all day.

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But at the same time, I
can't explaining to people like, this is

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where he's going to be the next
four years. I can have that that

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feeling in my gut, but I
need to know that he has it as

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well. And so it was that
tom or I just like had to step

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back and be like, all right, let's see if he come on back.

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But you know, just let him
make that decision because he got to

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throw the ball. He has to
get the degree. So we all were

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in our heart like, okay,
where is he going to go, but

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at the same time just letting him
have that time. The moment I knew

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that he was set was I think
it was Thursday. Thursday, Yeah,

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Thursday night, well, Thursday morning
Nick went fishing for like the whole day,

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which he usually already does, but
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and he was gone the entire day
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be about ten o'clock. And I'm
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down here, because he usually give
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somebody come pick him up. And
so I get down there and sure enough,

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he's still casting. He see me
pull up, and when he gets

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in the car, put all this
equipment in the car. He said,

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I'm ready, So my heart is
on the steering wheel. What you're ready

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for? Son? He said,
we're gonna talk about it when we get

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home. And I was like okay, and I had to, like had

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to calm my nerves. I came
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I damn near fell out, y'all
to my friends, I almost fell

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out. I almost fell out.
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from my mom until the next day. But she was walking around here with

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her cap and he was just walking
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not telling me something. And I
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I said, he might be,
I know it, dancing around our

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house just like just going so,
you know, just for him to be

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able to make that decision on his
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Even us as a family, you
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like you got to stay home.
Like whatever decision he would have made,

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we would have stuck by him.
We had a close knit family. Nick

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is the only grandson out of sixteen
granddaughters, so oh wow, yeah,

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yeah, he's surrounded by a special
moment there. You know, we talked

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about all those moments that we got
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know, live from your event,
which was especially that. You know,

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it seems like now the page has
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been a focus shifting to recruiting the
rest of the twenty four class. Um.

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Some sources are saying that Mama Tron
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you know, talking to Perspective recruits
together. Now I'm gonna be in a

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part of the staff. Is that
what's going on? I even hear Nick's

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doing some dms out there. Oh
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Hey Nick, you know obviously that
that video, Um, you know,

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what's one of the you know,
best recruiting videos, best commitment videos I've

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seen out there. Um, you
know what went into it? How much

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fun was it? And you know
your mom talked about your mom and I

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talked a little bit today about that
video and it took a lot of the

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last minute editing, and you know, because the decision had to go in

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last How fun was making that video? And uh, you know what what

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did you take away from that?
Then? Making a video was so fun?

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You know, we got to you
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like the barberside of the gas station. He's at the bus stot with

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my grandma. We got to run
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up the little we practice and you
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time of filming, you know,
we got to make a lot of memories

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and you know, I think that
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I was at the bus stop talking
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you know, just bring me back
and coffee wherever you're going, And like

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making that video was like it was
hilarious and it was like fun at the

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same time, you know, and
then just just being able to sit there

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with everybody and you know, but
then haven't watched it and actually think it

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was interesting. Was pretty fun.
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work into it. Hyah. I
felt like, you know, everybody liked

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it. You know, that was
that was like the best feeling. So

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just making that video, we just
had some crazy moments and it was really

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fun. And Nick you you you
didn't get a chance to see to too

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up north and I kill you not
man the entire video, that man was

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out here, like I mean the
whole time, he's just like Bobby,

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He's like yeah, and I look, I was the guy of the group,

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like man, in my heart,
I feel like I knew it.

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But I was like, man,
I hope, I hope. The Lord

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himself though, like another decision,
Why we're doing this lie and you'd be

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like missy state, Nope, I'm
going somewhere older oldest was scared about that.

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So I actually I actually told him
like, we're not doing that.

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Happen minute we got joy, that's
disrespectful. We're not doing that happy.

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We all we got a shout out
to Lucas right like he is the goat,

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let's go. It was so dope
because I had a vision and I

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told Nick said, man, let's
come around, like I want you to

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have a video, and he's like
you sure. I'm like yeah, I

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said, I got it all in
my head. And to talk to Lucas.

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When me and Lucas get together,
like it's magic. I literally describe

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everything that I wanted to happen,
how I wanted it to happen around the

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community, and Lucas like, okay. By the next morning, he had

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a script ready already and I'm like, man, nailed it, And well,

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people don't know that video was made
over I seek like three months because

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the Thistle visits, we were gone
almost a month. And so when we

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come back, Lucas is like,
I got this day three Well, we'll

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have nick clothes already ready, Like
if you pay attention to close detailing that

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video Nick Harret and sock change like
Bob six songs, like his hair and

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his socks changed so many times.
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like, you think people don't notice? People Like, I'm gonna make sure

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they don't notice. So just being
able to catch up with everybody's schedule in

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hours to be able to get that
done, and then Lucas have it all

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together the night before it was like
he's really to go And it turned out

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exactly how I envisioned it, and
it was too the team, team effort.

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Yeah, I know, yeah,
because I know when you make that

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a commitment, we got one more
year to work to do before you get

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here. Right, So what a
coach hawk talk to you about working on

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for this offseason going into your last
senior football season. Then obviously your next

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step coming to be slanting. What
do you tell you need to work on?

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What you think you need to work
on he just told me, you

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know, just getting faster, you
know fast, you know, quick twitchy,

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uh, and just working on the
speed really, you know, the

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forwards there, just sharpening up,
you know, catchings there, just sharpening

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everything up, honestly, you know, just trying to take everything to the

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next level to be you know,
great at the next level. And that's

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that's pretty much it. But you
know, just keep robbing us how you

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usually do, uh, and you
know, just be ready to compet at

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the next level. On Nick moam
trying. We are so excited to have

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you guys here with thankful that you
are committed to Misial State. We can't

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wait to have it Gilardon Stadium,
we can call those games and cheery stunts.

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You're gonna be scoring and green and
White. Tell you guys, I

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went back and rewatch and it's so
funny because after the picture dropped, you

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guys kind of see where Hattie had
on the delayed Yeah, she was like,

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what we seeing teleratory beverage when you
say you I didn't want to go

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before, you know, so I'm
trying to pull out the hat. I'm

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looking at the video. I was
so into the video that I think,

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man ready and ready. I'm ready
to take out the hat. I'm I'm

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just sitting ready to take out the
hat. You know, watching the video,

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got caught up in it. Oh
man, it was a great video,

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great video. All those elements that
you thought of Mama trying did come

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out. I said, those are
special landmarks that he's going to. You

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could tell that it meant something being
in the community of River Rouge and so

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many people there to speak great words
about you too. That's tells you the

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kind of character, young man,
you are, So keep doing that.

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That's what That's what it's really gonna
take. Because the football is just not

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the destination. It's part of the
journey. You're gonna gonna open a lot

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of doors for you, young man. You gotta bright future head, and

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we're having to see it unfold in
green and white and East Lancing. Thank

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you, Grandma trying what's that?
What up? Oh yeah, we gotta

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get it. You're trying to figure
out what Twitter is? Tell me on

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friends, now, I'm joking,
only joking. Get ready for your senior

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season and keep founding. That's all
right? Oh yeah, Frank and look

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me and shoot you covering high school
at football. So we're gonna be talking

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about our dogs. Man on Friday
nights. We're gonna we're gonna have you,

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alrighty man, appreciate you. Man, go greed, all right,

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go right, alright, there you
go, all right, there you go.

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All right, Nick Marsh and Mama
Tron. Guys, that's a special

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family right there. With that,
you don't just get a great player,

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you also get another recruiting staff an
extension. Now you know that you don't

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have to pay for U technically right
right right too. Froze up on us

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because you got so excited. Man, I don't know what happened, but

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uh, you know, I think
from a standpoint like family matters, like

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let's go back to the the nitty
gritty of making your decision, Like the

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family matters on when you make that
decision. And I had to make that

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decision too, Like yeah, I
could have went elsewhere, you know,

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somewhere else. But I think it's
an opportunity to say my family can now

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hit hit the highway and come see
me, take a day trip and don't

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spend their entire weekend, come come
visit. But it's a good opportunity to

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show that hey, Michigan State,
we're deeper than just you know, the

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glitz, the glam. It's all
about family um in the brotherhood. So

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sid of hanging up. Welcome Nick
Marsh back to to to the Spartan nation.

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Yeah, I mean great, great
family. Glad to have them here.

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you know calling that one has Indianapolis
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to the Rose Bowl. Tony Lippett
joins this the Spartan man shoe. Welcome

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to the show, Tony, free
shape, having me fast having what's that

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was your man? Jilly? How
are you doing man? I mean you

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talk lip lips Detroit and Crockett's finest
man. You're doing good? Yeah you

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are. You know, like,
let's talk about Michigan State. Your decision

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to come out of the PSL and
in Detroit and choose Michigan State well led

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to that decision. Um, Michigan
State was one of my first offers.

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Um, coach, you know it's
recruited me then you know with him,

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Um, I don't know what.
Oh you know what, wait just wait

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wait because he gonna he gonna love
it that, you know again, was

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a primary recruiter. That was my
recruit coordinator. He was real cool man.

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It was cool guy. Um,
they embraced me. Man was kind

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of felt like home when I went
up there. You know, the culture

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felt good. I liked the program. I like where it was that I

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can see where it can go.
I can see, like, you know,

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the hunger that the the guys had. I can see the trajectory of

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the team and I just want to
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that was great and I knew I
knew, like I said, I knewere

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it can take. I knew we
can go with it. And um,

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it felt like home. It felt
like Crockett. It felt like grind me.

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But you know, still like it
still still can you know, make

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plays and and it have fun with
it. So that's basically why I feel

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like the coaching staff was cool.
I feel like they was good. I

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feel like they cared about their players. Um, coach d definitely. UM.

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So yeah, I feel comfortable with
it. And I chose to just

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make that decision. So before he
jump into something, how was that?

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How was that coach ENO's visit?
Like, because I know the type of

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guy Coachino like, he's a funny
dude, like sitting around, So how

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was that? How was he coming
and talking into you, you know,

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coach You know, it was like
a smooth guy, glasses on kill,

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kind of call low key but not
low keyed. That was kind of you

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know, quiet but not quiet.
I mean he recruited me. He came

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up to Crocket a couple of times
recruiting me. But I remember this one

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visit he came to attract me.
I had attracted me that Central High School

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and he was sitting on the side
this is before they offered me, and

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he was like, you know,
we want you to run fast. You

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know, he was just saying this, you want you want to see open

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up and you know, we want
to see you do this and do that,

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and I'm just like, all right, cool, you know, you

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know it's kind of talk. So
um, yeah, we ran the race,

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not the words. He was like, I mean like we've seen man

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like that. I like that.
You see the explosion, We see the

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see that. So he was real
like cool with it, like he wasn't

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like, you know, overly too
if he wouldn't like kind of stand off,

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and he kind of liked treating me
like I was already a smarting dog.

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And I kind of I liked that
because I liked their hands on type

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of coach and I don't like to
kind of stand off and shit back.

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I just not want to say nothing, but he was he kind of embraced

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me. I'll rock with that.
And that was just a funny visit because

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we was running the what was he
running the two hundred? He just came

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on like a random tuesday, you
know, at tracked me like a random

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Tuesday in March or April and he
just came up there and I was like,

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that's dope, because ain't nobody ever
came to attract me. They probably

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come to a game or a basketball
game, but they ain't gonna come and

409
00:29:48.880 --> 00:29:52.960
attract me. It might rain.
It might you know, you never know.

410
00:29:52.039 --> 00:29:56.359
So I thought that was dope and
because you know, it was a

411
00:29:56.359 --> 00:29:59.880
cool guy and they came out,
they pulled up man. The rest is

412
00:30:00.039 --> 00:30:07.000
history. Talking about growing up obviously
in Detroit and knowing that we have the

413
00:30:07.039 --> 00:30:11.359
school done a role that you know
people kind of look at as well.

414
00:30:11.400 --> 00:30:14.640
But like thinking, talk about your
options you had. You know, you

415
00:30:14.680 --> 00:30:18.519
said Michigan State was your first offer. But then you know it always happens

416
00:30:18.519 --> 00:30:22.559
when you get that first offer,
It's it's a ripple effects. They start

417
00:30:22.640 --> 00:30:25.359
coming out, you know, and
start in drones and giving you offers.

418
00:30:25.359 --> 00:30:29.039
But talk about, you know,
growing up in Michigan and being in Michigan,

419
00:30:29.119 --> 00:30:30.720
or we just had Nick Marshawn and
you know he's staying home. He

420
00:30:30.759 --> 00:30:33.960
said, how important was to stay
at home? And talk about who did

421
00:30:33.960 --> 00:30:37.559
you support fully growing up? And
then what made you turn where? Like

422
00:30:37.599 --> 00:30:41.440
I want to be a dog,
want to be a green wife. It's

423
00:30:41.480 --> 00:30:45.640
funny because like I watched like Michigan
State football and Michigan football, but I

424
00:30:45.680 --> 00:30:48.759
didn't really like choose a school.
I didn't pick a school I didn't really

425
00:30:48.279 --> 00:30:52.079
like. I used to like UFC, like like I'm part of watching Reggie

426
00:30:52.160 --> 00:30:59.279
Bush and man Wayne Jared and I'm
I remember watching them guys. And I

427
00:30:59.359 --> 00:31:02.680
like Oregon too with Dennis Dason because
I played quarterback in high school. So

428
00:31:02.799 --> 00:31:06.359
like, I didn't play wide receiver
in high school. I played in little

429
00:31:06.440 --> 00:31:08.160
leagues and things like that, but
I didn't play quarterback. I'm not I

430
00:31:08.160 --> 00:31:12.400
didn't play wide receiver. So um, I didn't really, like I said,

431
00:31:12.400 --> 00:31:15.200
I didn't really pick a school.
I kind of it was like I

432
00:31:15.279 --> 00:31:21.000
had I had offers for how I
think I had like ten ten offers,

433
00:31:21.039 --> 00:31:23.119
maybe like ten offers, but I
had like four at quarterback and I had

434
00:31:23.160 --> 00:31:26.799
like six as an athlete, So
I didn't know if I was gonna play

435
00:31:26.799 --> 00:31:30.359
wide receiver, dB whatever it was. But um, like I said,

436
00:31:30.359 --> 00:31:33.240
I just felt like Michigan State was
cool. As I started to like choose

437
00:31:33.519 --> 00:31:37.920
get offers and start to see like
the programs go to the schools and things

438
00:31:37.960 --> 00:31:41.240
like that, I only went to
one offers Michigan State, which I enjoy

439
00:31:41.400 --> 00:31:45.799
I embraced it. It felt good
for home. Um that's just what it

440
00:31:45.000 --> 00:31:48.000
was like. Yeah, like I
said, I ain't grew up like either

441
00:31:48.079 --> 00:31:53.039
school, but I did watch him. I did watch Michigan State and Michigan

442
00:31:53.400 --> 00:31:56.960
Ohio State. I just watched a
bunch of college games. I didn't really

443
00:31:56.519 --> 00:32:06.079
I didn't like pick a side,
but the side obviously. And Tony you

444
00:32:06.160 --> 00:32:08.759
talk about, you know, getting
offers and playing quarterback um, and then

445
00:32:08.799 --> 00:32:12.799
when you came to Michigan State you
had an opportunity to you played receiver and

446
00:32:12.920 --> 00:32:16.920
you played corner um. How did
that help? How did it playing quarterback

447
00:32:17.400 --> 00:32:21.160
help you, you know, as
a receiver. And also when you were

448
00:32:21.160 --> 00:32:23.759
on the defensive side of the ball, did you feel you had added advantage

449
00:32:23.799 --> 00:32:29.039
because you played the quarterback position.
That's a great question, honestly. Yeah.

450
00:32:29.039 --> 00:32:30.920
I mean when I played quarterback,
like, I had to know just

451
00:32:31.039 --> 00:32:34.559
more than my job. I had
to know what the wide receiver is doing,

452
00:32:35.000 --> 00:32:37.240
what the lineman was doing, with
the tight end was doing. I

453
00:32:37.279 --> 00:32:40.400
had to actually read the defenses as
well. I had to know the cause

454
00:32:40.480 --> 00:32:45.960
and know the adjustment. So I
had to know so much more about the

455
00:32:45.960 --> 00:32:47.920
whole team than just you know,
playing wide receiver and running a route,

456
00:32:49.000 --> 00:32:52.440
you know, or like, I
had to know what both sides this rod

457
00:32:52.559 --> 00:32:54.000
ran. This wide receiver du well, he was good at what the tight

458
00:32:54.079 --> 00:32:59.400
end was good at what the running
back was good at So I watched a

459
00:32:59.400 --> 00:33:02.160
lot of films growing up, even
though we probably had like cassette tapes,

460
00:33:02.279 --> 00:33:06.599
and it wasn't like it is now. You got the hot path and all

461
00:33:06.680 --> 00:33:09.279
this, and it wasn't hot field. It was sideline. You can barely

462
00:33:09.279 --> 00:33:14.160
see it. But I watched it
though, because I knew it was gonna,

463
00:33:14.200 --> 00:33:15.759
you know, translate to the next
level. I knew I wanted to

464
00:33:15.759 --> 00:33:17.839
play at the next level, and
I knew like if I wanted to be

465
00:33:17.839 --> 00:33:20.839
great, you know, you had
to watch film. You had to study

466
00:33:20.839 --> 00:33:23.960
the game and study your opponents and
study yourself. So I would say quarterback

467
00:33:24.039 --> 00:33:28.839
definitely helped me because it it made
me think about a lot of things that

468
00:33:31.359 --> 00:33:35.079
was just more than just playing one
position. For me, I had to

469
00:33:35.079 --> 00:33:37.839
think about everybody. I had to
think about the d n over here on

470
00:33:37.880 --> 00:33:39.880
the backside, I had to think
about this linebacker over here. I had

471
00:33:39.920 --> 00:33:44.279
to think about so many things,
and it just opened up my mind to

472
00:33:44.319 --> 00:33:45.720
a lot of things. So I
can definitely say it helped me by understanding

473
00:33:45.759 --> 00:33:49.799
the offenses and defenses and seeing it
from both sides of the ball as well.

474
00:33:51.400 --> 00:33:54.200
Yeah, you know, Coach d
always talked about one guy back in

475
00:33:54.279 --> 00:33:58.759
Ohio State, Chris Gamble. That's
all I ever heard when they brought your

476
00:33:58.839 --> 00:34:01.279
name up. I heard Chris Evil's
name because he was a two way player.

477
00:34:01.599 --> 00:34:06.599
Yeah, for those who are listening, don't know, it's highly unusual,

478
00:34:06.920 --> 00:34:09.519
very rare for players in the college
level, especially the Power five level,

479
00:34:09.960 --> 00:34:14.719
to play both ways. And you
talk about a very none chaline like

480
00:34:14.960 --> 00:34:17.800
you know it helped me do this, but like what kind of you know,

481
00:34:19.079 --> 00:34:23.159
compact conditioning capacity have to be in
in order to play receiver and defensive

482
00:34:23.159 --> 00:34:28.639
back at a high level, because
you know you're you're either the playmaker you

483
00:34:29.159 --> 00:34:32.639
have to prevent those plays from being
made on the defensive side. My conditioning

484
00:34:32.719 --> 00:34:37.559
was crazy. I may I always
like and you guys, if you ask

485
00:34:37.639 --> 00:34:40.320
guys about me in practice, like
our practice, Like are you feel me

486
00:34:40.400 --> 00:34:44.519
like I would run sprints. I
always want to be out there and in

487
00:34:44.599 --> 00:34:45.719
the gas, your tests with coach
Man, and I would want to win

488
00:34:45.800 --> 00:34:50.400
them, like I would compete in
practice just as well as I competed in

489
00:34:50.400 --> 00:34:52.840
the game, And like I didn't
want to be tired, you feel me

490
00:34:52.840 --> 00:34:55.280
I didn't want to make a play
and didn't come out the next play like

491
00:34:55.280 --> 00:34:58.920
this play right here like I was
in the next play, Like I didn't

492
00:34:58.920 --> 00:35:01.000
want to come make a big and
be that guy that come to the sign.

493
00:35:01.039 --> 00:35:04.119
I'm like, oh, I'm tired
now, you know, I want

494
00:35:04.159 --> 00:35:07.079
to go and make another play.
So there was times where I knew that

495
00:35:07.440 --> 00:35:14.719
if I should be the best incredible
catch that's a tough catch, just so

496
00:35:14.800 --> 00:35:17.960
people know that catch, like running
this way and over the head, Like

497
00:35:19.039 --> 00:35:22.440
that's a tough catch there. That's
a drill that to do with the combine.

498
00:35:22.800 --> 00:35:25.079
Yeah, like that, you know
that's something that you know that's a

499
00:35:25.119 --> 00:35:28.159
play right there. I don't.
I didn't like the way that you let

500
00:35:28.159 --> 00:35:32.519
the ref dbo you out the way
I wouldn't. I wasn't even looking at

501
00:35:32.559 --> 00:35:39.159
it. Not ain't dancing and all
coming. I didn't even give a little

502
00:35:39.199 --> 00:35:43.559
chest point without him coming to try
to college. But no, it's like

503
00:35:44.199 --> 00:35:46.239
I just you know, he said, like I said, nonchalant, but

504
00:35:46.280 --> 00:35:51.199
like I always see myself being great. You feel me like I played I

505
00:35:51.320 --> 00:35:53.119
played offense and defensive high school too. A lot of guys there's a lot

506
00:35:53.159 --> 00:35:57.239
of guys played that in high school. But I knew, like I wanted

507
00:35:57.239 --> 00:35:59.719
to if if I could, I
would do that in college too, so

508
00:35:59.719 --> 00:36:01.920
I remember Coach D coming to me
and telling me, talking to me about

509
00:36:01.920 --> 00:36:07.639
the Corey gamble, I mean Chris
Chris because I remember watching Chris gamble too,

510
00:36:07.679 --> 00:36:09.119
like I watched Ohio State. I
remember number seven on both sides of

511
00:36:09.159 --> 00:36:13.480
the ball, like the whole thing. So I was familiar with it.

512
00:36:13.519 --> 00:36:15.719
And I know, like I can
play both sides, you know, and

513
00:36:15.800 --> 00:36:20.159
I think I'm smart enough to do
that. Why not do it? He

514
00:36:20.280 --> 00:36:22.519
kind of he keep running that to
me, though I didn't come to him

515
00:36:22.559 --> 00:36:23.559
and say, you know, I
want to get both side. He came

516
00:36:23.599 --> 00:36:28.599
to me with it, and I
was like, shit, let's go Coach

517
00:36:28.679 --> 00:36:31.400
D. Because D is, I
would say, the most critic, like

518
00:36:31.480 --> 00:36:36.960
he's the most he's he doesn't lend
those things out freely, right like when

519
00:36:37.000 --> 00:36:39.360
it comes when he comes to you, like he sees something that you didn't

520
00:36:39.360 --> 00:36:44.119
probably see in yourself sometimes where you
were like, oh really, like you've

521
00:36:44.119 --> 00:36:46.800
been thinking about that for me?
Okay? Cool? And then and then

522
00:36:46.800 --> 00:36:50.960
he go out and do it like
it's almost like him, such riddles,

523
00:36:51.000 --> 00:36:52.840
those riddles he gotta get you,
like you know, he said, well

524
00:36:53.239 --> 00:36:58.159
we are. That's another another topic
for another show, but man. Yeah,

525
00:36:58.199 --> 00:37:00.920
but I want I want you to
touch on like you know, people

526
00:37:00.000 --> 00:37:06.280
people felt to realize the greatness of
the chemistry that y'all had on that squad.

527
00:37:06.440 --> 00:37:10.039
And you know you see Connor Cook
which is a gamer and just a

528
00:37:10.039 --> 00:37:14.159
connection where you see that in the
end of play where he's like, no,

529
00:37:14.320 --> 00:37:16.159
he turn it up, turn down
the field, go down the field.

530
00:37:16.159 --> 00:37:20.639
I got you, like talk about
in the huddle and like Connor Cook

531
00:37:20.760 --> 00:37:24.360
coming in and kind of leaving that
that offense with all y'all in there and

532
00:37:24.440 --> 00:37:30.000
you have weapons, but talk about
that chemistry between you and Connor cook Man.

533
00:37:30.079 --> 00:37:35.440
It started. It started after spring
ball, before spring ball in the

534
00:37:35.480 --> 00:37:38.159
summer, like we would me and
CEC was cool off the field too,

535
00:37:38.320 --> 00:37:43.079
Like we was really cool off the
field as well. So we would come

536
00:37:43.119 --> 00:37:47.159
in on a random Wednesday. I
remember, like the weave lights was off,

537
00:37:47.199 --> 00:37:50.599
but you know, like you could
the sun was out, like the

538
00:37:50.679 --> 00:37:54.039
lights was off, but it was
enough sun reflecting from the top where you

539
00:37:54.039 --> 00:37:59.440
could see like we would be in
there like throw in the dark like we

540
00:37:59.440 --> 00:38:01.239
were game. All the wide receivers, you know, most of us,

541
00:38:01.360 --> 00:38:06.760
and we would work every day like
after practice, after running conditions, after

542
00:38:06.840 --> 00:38:09.480
running the stadium stairs. We would
run routes and throw routes and just work

543
00:38:09.559 --> 00:38:14.000
on certain things. And that's just
something we wanted to do because we wanted

544
00:38:14.039 --> 00:38:16.679
to be connected, like we wanted
everybody to be connected. We knew that

545
00:38:16.840 --> 00:38:22.599
we could be great. We knew
that we can bust this offense open.

546
00:38:22.679 --> 00:38:27.719
You feel me Like we had lank
Fur we had monthly Aaron Burbers that came

547
00:38:27.840 --> 00:38:31.400
in mcgarrey, King's Benny Foller,
and we had we was like deep to

548
00:38:32.039 --> 00:38:40.039
AJ Troupe to man, I can
go all and know Max stell Barker like

549
00:38:40.119 --> 00:38:43.719
we was like we used to really
like put it in work. Like I

550
00:38:43.719 --> 00:38:45.719
said, we would be out there
at nine o'clock in the morning or whenever

551
00:38:45.760 --> 00:38:50.239
it was, and it would be
not just me and Connor, it would

552
00:38:50.239 --> 00:38:52.840
be all of us out there for
like two hours throwing, Okay, we're

553
00:38:52.840 --> 00:38:57.280
gonna run curls today, We're gonna
run out routes today, We're gonna run

554
00:38:57.360 --> 00:39:00.400
deep boss today. And we would
do that often to where training time got

555
00:39:00.400 --> 00:39:04.159
there it was home like we was
already ready to go. You wasn't stopping

556
00:39:04.239 --> 00:39:07.880
us in nothing, so we was
already there. So I just translated on

557
00:39:07.920 --> 00:39:10.320
the field to where like Okay,
like you said, he pointed up already

558
00:39:10.360 --> 00:39:20.400
knew likes Okay, I'm about turn
it up, man, Tony, A

559
00:39:20.480 --> 00:39:22.760
question for you. So you you
did all this work, you know,

560
00:39:22.800 --> 00:39:24.719
in the offseason with their quarterbacks,
and so I'm going back to, you

561
00:39:24.760 --> 00:39:28.840
know, playing both ways and what
people don't realize and tell us a little

562
00:39:28.880 --> 00:39:30.480
bit. You know, how did
the week go? Because you had to

563
00:39:30.519 --> 00:39:34.480
go in the offense for game plan
for offense, and then you had to

564
00:39:34.480 --> 00:39:37.039
go for the defensive room for the
game plan for that, you know,

565
00:39:37.159 --> 00:39:40.320
and people say, you know,
athletes, m you know jobs, but

566
00:39:40.480 --> 00:39:45.079
you have to be smart to play
the game of football. And how was

567
00:39:45.159 --> 00:39:49.480
the week? You know, when
you you're playing both offense and defense,

568
00:39:49.639 --> 00:39:53.239
how did you split your time?
Like? Man, Like on Tuesdays,

569
00:39:53.920 --> 00:39:58.679
I would, you know, that's
like the install I would go to both

570
00:39:58.719 --> 00:40:01.400
meets, like I would be on
offensive meeting, but I kind of knew

571
00:40:01.440 --> 00:40:06.360
offense. I knew defense too,
but I knew offense. Like it's just

572
00:40:06.559 --> 00:40:08.039
I'm good, kind of good with
that, but I still want to the

573
00:40:08.039 --> 00:40:12.840
game plan and I would go on
the defense and there Coach Burnette and all

574
00:40:12.880 --> 00:40:15.400
the defensive guys in there. I
would be over there as well, and

575
00:40:15.559 --> 00:40:19.440
in practice, I would be on
offense for this couple periods and I would

576
00:40:19.480 --> 00:40:22.920
be on defense for this periods.
And I would just do that all the

577
00:40:22.960 --> 00:40:25.320
way from Tuesday, Wednesday, and
Thursday, I would do that. I

578
00:40:25.320 --> 00:40:32.239
would take both tests and the catalog. On Friday, I got I gotta

579
00:40:32.280 --> 00:40:37.760
take I gotta take the test for
the wild I was And it just kind

580
00:40:37.760 --> 00:40:42.639
of got my mind right to like
I would rep it every day, so

581
00:40:42.679 --> 00:40:45.119
I kind of knew what was going
on, like I wasn't. It wasn't

582
00:40:45.119 --> 00:40:47.599
a shocker to me, Like I
knew the signals, I knew the calls

583
00:40:47.639 --> 00:40:50.519
like, but I had to be
out there and practice with it. I

584
00:40:50.559 --> 00:40:52.719
had to split time and practice with
it. And even after practice and even

585
00:40:52.760 --> 00:40:55.480
going and kicking it with the guys
at their house, and you know,

586
00:40:55.719 --> 00:40:59.360
okay, what this mean. What
we gonna do on this versus a stack

587
00:40:59.400 --> 00:41:02.159
coverage? We gonna do when they
come in motion over here, like we

588
00:41:02.199 --> 00:41:07.599
would always like dive into that even
off the field. So yeah, it

589
00:41:07.679 --> 00:41:14.440
was tough, man, but so
well, I got something there. I

590
00:41:14.559 --> 00:41:17.800
got a question. Huh, straight
out of question, he said, you

591
00:41:17.840 --> 00:41:24.480
gotta do you want to listen so
you can answer this question like nobody else

592
00:41:24.559 --> 00:41:30.360
can once and for all. What
is harder mentally being a skill player on

593
00:41:30.480 --> 00:41:36.440
offense or a skill player on defense
skill player on defense? Because it's like

594
00:41:36.480 --> 00:41:38.920
you, you wouldn't you wouldn't.
First off, I would say corner is

595
00:41:38.960 --> 00:41:52.320
one of the corners. Yeah,
I ain't listen, listen, listen that

596
00:41:52.480 --> 00:41:58.400
corner got that sideline as his friend
out like we got numb but open field

597
00:41:58.480 --> 00:42:00.800
left the right all around us.
Feel you feel me so? And we

598
00:42:00.840 --> 00:42:13.000
gotta tackle your kick behind too.
I just but I I would I would

599
00:42:13.000 --> 00:42:15.480
say I would say corner is tough. I would say being a deep defensive

600
00:42:15.920 --> 00:42:20.800
skill guys tough because you're spending all
your time react like you don't know what

601
00:42:20.840 --> 00:42:22.800
the guy's gonna do, Like it
don't matter about it split, It don't

602
00:42:22.800 --> 00:42:25.639
matter about the motion, It don't
matter about the down and distance, It

603
00:42:25.639 --> 00:42:30.320
don't matter about their Tennessee. Sometimes
sometimes they just gonna do whatever they whatever

604
00:42:30.360 --> 00:42:34.480
they're gonna do. And sometimes you're
gonna guess wrong, and you have even

605
00:42:34.519 --> 00:42:37.360
when you guess wrong, you gotta
go. You gotta react to that too.

606
00:42:37.480 --> 00:42:39.480
You feel me if you i'mna about
to run it out, and then

607
00:42:39.519 --> 00:42:43.519
you running in, you still gotta
chase him down and then you've got to

608
00:42:43.559 --> 00:42:45.840
tackle them wide receiver. You know
he's gotta make a move that, do

609
00:42:45.920 --> 00:42:51.000
this, do that, And I
would saying I would ask your question.

610
00:42:51.000 --> 00:42:53.360
Defense is definitely because if you,
like I said, you spend most of

611
00:42:53.400 --> 00:42:58.039
your time react, you're reacting to
a whole other guy. You're the resident

612
00:42:58.079 --> 00:43:05.360
expert on this tone serious man.
But speaking of the chemistry, you know,

613
00:43:05.440 --> 00:43:08.639
this year mark's a ten year anniversary
for that rose ball team, and

614
00:43:08.679 --> 00:43:13.199
I know that they're gonna be celebrating
you. We're gonna celebrate you during the

615
00:43:13.239 --> 00:43:15.480
season. Are you looking forward to
maybe reconnected with some of the players from

616
00:43:15.519 --> 00:43:19.599
that team that you just named out
the list of Oh no, man,

617
00:43:19.639 --> 00:43:22.000
I'm definitely uh looking forward to it. I mean we were we was a

618
00:43:22.039 --> 00:43:25.719
tight team, man, even even
my class, like and not even just

619
00:43:25.800 --> 00:43:29.639
my class, the classes came after
that. We was like tight, man

620
00:43:29.719 --> 00:43:34.559
Like we could go at each other
and be in the cafeteria laughing it off

621
00:43:34.679 --> 00:43:37.519
right after that. You feel me
like, we we this is how we

622
00:43:37.559 --> 00:43:40.199
played even in the game. We
played just like that in practice, like

623
00:43:40.239 --> 00:43:45.559
we would go at each other and
That's just how it was. We would

624
00:43:45.599 --> 00:43:47.840
be off be a vid with each
other in the smith, off the field

625
00:43:47.880 --> 00:43:52.119
everything. So we was a tight
connected group. You know, a lot

626
00:43:52.159 --> 00:43:54.800
of guys from those teams still in
contact with each other. I'm in contact

627
00:43:54.840 --> 00:43:57.960
with a lot of those guys as
well. So it's gonna be good to

628
00:43:58.079 --> 00:44:00.920
you know, come back for a
ten year. It's crazy like then I

629
00:44:00.000 --> 00:44:06.159
was ten years ago. Man,
But man, man, it was that

630
00:44:06.280 --> 00:44:08.360
atmosphere. By the way, we
just saw the Rose clip that atmosphere you

631
00:44:08.360 --> 00:44:12.480
can talk about that. Oh man, I was live. Man. I

632
00:44:12.519 --> 00:44:15.760
remember just pulling up to it and
it's like you can see the arena because

633
00:44:15.760 --> 00:44:19.679
you like, we start off up
top and we're driving down and you can

634
00:44:19.719 --> 00:44:22.000
just see it. I'm just looking
like, man, and then you get

635
00:44:22.039 --> 00:44:25.440
into the arena and it's like a
hundred what is it? I think it's

636
00:44:25.440 --> 00:44:28.679
like a hundred k and there hundred
thousand people. I'm like, man,

637
00:44:28.760 --> 00:44:32.119
this is like and Spartan Nation show
out. Like I think Spartan Nation was

638
00:44:32.159 --> 00:44:37.719
there more than Stanford was there.
Man. It was loud, it was

639
00:44:37.840 --> 00:44:40.559
live, it was fun. Man. I was definitely one of them lives

640
00:44:40.679 --> 00:44:45.239
games I was. I was a
part of definitely knowing how I went,

641
00:44:45.440 --> 00:44:49.039
the ups and downs, the back
and forth, and I was a live

642
00:44:49.119 --> 00:44:51.559
game man. I didn't feared with
live man. You couldn't do nothing but

643
00:44:51.719 --> 00:44:54.280
make plays. And I feel like
that, you know, I was with

644
00:44:54.400 --> 00:45:00.280
their you know, rich Homie,
Quand's there. We got. I had

645
00:45:00.280 --> 00:45:06.079
that rich Homie and to say to
um, yeah, I mean it was

646
00:45:06.320 --> 00:45:08.599
it was dope because, like I
said, we had started playing his song

647
00:45:08.679 --> 00:45:13.320
in the locker room. It was
probably like week four, week five is

648
00:45:13.480 --> 00:45:15.800
week five is around that time.
We started to like getting this groove and

649
00:45:15.840 --> 00:45:19.599
we started to play. Then we
started to vibe to it like and then

650
00:45:19.599 --> 00:45:22.039
we started to put it on film. Man, it got bigger, and

651
00:45:22.039 --> 00:45:24.320
then he kind of reached out to
us, and Quaids already knew. So

652
00:45:24.360 --> 00:45:28.840
it was like he were talking about
like man gonna come to the game,

653
00:45:28.880 --> 00:45:30.480
and Quid like man gonna come,
Quiz trying to keep it a secret and

654
00:45:30.840 --> 00:45:37.760
Quiz be so so we kind of
thought he was gonna come, and he

655
00:45:37.920 --> 00:45:39.320
may come, he may not.
And then we get to the game,

656
00:45:40.079 --> 00:45:43.519
we come out, you know,
we're singing the national anthem. Guys didn't

657
00:45:43.519 --> 00:45:46.239
like rich Homie here like wearing he
literally sitting right behind our bench in like

658
00:45:46.400 --> 00:45:50.960
third Road, just killing It's like
him like four other people, like it's

659
00:45:51.000 --> 00:45:53.000
about to go down. They're just
having him in the locker room and him

660
00:45:53.000 --> 00:45:57.159
being able to turn up with us
after that win. That was a legendary

661
00:45:57.239 --> 00:46:00.559
experience for a lot of guys that
locker room. Obviously, you know that's

662
00:46:01.480 --> 00:46:04.880
it's just a lot of things like
you remember, but there's some moments that

663
00:46:04.960 --> 00:46:07.639
you you know that's gonna go down
with you forever. And that was one

664
00:46:07.679 --> 00:46:10.599
of those moments for me for sure, And I can definitely say that about

665
00:46:10.639 --> 00:46:13.519
a lot of those guys in the
locker room. That's one of those moments

666
00:46:13.559 --> 00:46:15.800
that they don't, you know,
remember for the rest of their life.

667
00:46:15.800 --> 00:46:17.679
So it's gonna be a good turnout
when we get there. Just kick with

668
00:46:17.719 --> 00:46:21.840
all the guys out of office line
the defense line, and were probably gonna

669
00:46:21.840 --> 00:46:23.840
be talking to you again. It's
gonna be live, man. I can't

670
00:46:23.880 --> 00:46:27.880
wait for sure. You know,
Coach d man, only very few people

671
00:46:27.920 --> 00:46:31.159
can get be coach d dancing,
and then the president of the university dance

672
00:46:31.320 --> 00:46:39.920
too, like you got Travis Jason
doing it. Yes man, y'all,

673
00:46:40.000 --> 00:46:44.199
y'all have y'all just hurt. Y'all
made that that whole ride is fun,

674
00:46:44.280 --> 00:46:46.599
man, Like you like you know, you really love football, and y'all

675
00:46:46.719 --> 00:46:51.719
was winning the right way, gritty
but like you knew who was coming off

676
00:46:51.719 --> 00:46:55.199
the bus every game, and there
was no question, there was no hesitancy,

677
00:46:55.320 --> 00:47:00.079
like y'all knew y'all was gonna give
it, y'all thousand percent, and

678
00:47:00.079 --> 00:47:02.280
and it was just a good I
had a great opportunity of just being on

679
00:47:02.280 --> 00:47:07.000
the sideline, like I'm out here
crying on the sideline radio broadcasting like you

680
00:47:07.039 --> 00:47:14.039
know, it could have been up
man, like it was. That was

681
00:47:14.079 --> 00:47:17.599
a that was right. I want
to know your best coaching our Duzy story,

682
00:47:17.800 --> 00:47:22.320
because everybody like coach our Dugi is
a he's a wild dude, man

683
00:47:22.400 --> 00:47:25.920
like passion about football. But you
got any crazy story that people don't know

684
00:47:25.960 --> 00:47:29.880
about coaching our due First of all, man, you aren't no dudes.

685
00:47:30.119 --> 00:47:34.880
Man, man, you are if
you know dudes that you know dudes.

686
00:47:34.880 --> 00:47:37.199
But I'm gonna just think I'm gonna
just bring up this just kind of reminded

687
00:47:37.239 --> 00:47:42.320
me a little bit. I remember
we as in a locker room, and

688
00:47:42.440 --> 00:47:45.000
this was before the new locker room
got there, so this is the smart

689
00:47:45.039 --> 00:47:47.159
locker room of the morning locker room, and we kind of bunched up on

690
00:47:47.199 --> 00:47:52.440
each other. Oh, we know, we know it was It was one

691
00:47:52.559 --> 00:47:55.760
game and I think it was at
halftime, like we wasn't r d our

692
00:47:55.880 --> 00:47:59.519
team just wasn't playing. I think
it was around two thousand and twelve.

693
00:48:00.039 --> 00:48:05.440
We wasn't playing up to like how
we should have been playing. And we

694
00:48:05.559 --> 00:48:08.760
come into the locker road and you
know, they upstairs, they're coming down.

695
00:48:08.800 --> 00:48:12.320
They're gonna talk real quick. We
relaxed and we come back in and

696
00:48:12.719 --> 00:48:16.239
he got the projector out. He
vibing and he talking and then he's just

697
00:48:16.519 --> 00:48:22.840
snapped, which he usually do,
but he knocked the projector over and broke

698
00:48:22.880 --> 00:48:27.719
the projector and then it was I
think coach. He looked out, come

699
00:48:27.760 --> 00:48:34.679
on, man, he was like
this, this was dudes, He's saying

700
00:48:34.679 --> 00:48:37.679
in the middle of his in the
middle of him being bad. He was

701
00:48:37.719 --> 00:48:45.599
like, shit, my man.
I was like, man, and you

702
00:48:45.639 --> 00:48:49.960
know, we and they're serious,
but at the same time, like we

703
00:48:50.119 --> 00:48:52.840
like kind of laughing, like bro, he's funny as hell. It's just

704
00:48:52.840 --> 00:48:57.199
like he knocked the projector over,
like like we got another projector and this

705
00:48:57.480 --> 00:49:00.480
in the middle of it, like
we still ain't even went to the text.

706
00:49:00.599 --> 00:49:09.119
You feel the text. He's just
kind of fat d it. How

707
00:49:09.159 --> 00:49:14.199
many of those did he break at
halftime games? I mean I was I

708
00:49:14.239 --> 00:49:16.280
had two of them, and I
was sitting role like I was like,

709
00:49:16.480 --> 00:49:21.800
I was like blasphem my eye,
like I don't I don't have what to

710
00:49:21.880 --> 00:49:23.840
do on the other side, like
there was another side, because that's when

711
00:49:23.840 --> 00:49:30.719
they did a little little bit.
But I don't have a story like that.

712
00:49:30.800 --> 00:49:34.320
But I remember the first game Coach
D's first game coaching at Michigan,

713
00:49:34.400 --> 00:49:37.880
say, you know your junior year
oldest my senior year and we're playing I

714
00:49:37.880 --> 00:49:45.280
believe it was U A B or
E. No, that was the first

715
00:49:45.280 --> 00:49:49.679
game of you and uh, We're
in warm ups and Coach D is standing

716
00:49:49.760 --> 00:49:52.000
there. Doozy's walking up to him
and he's like, hey, Mike,

717
00:49:52.920 --> 00:49:59.320
you know how he's all talking chewing
gum that tight had soft because he's like

718
00:49:59.559 --> 00:50:01.880
what and then he's like he's softer
than baby, you know, please?

719
00:50:02.159 --> 00:50:14.280
And then D'antoni's like out there scout
in the pre game. He didn't he

720
00:50:14.280 --> 00:50:20.880
didn't, he didn't follow him.
One. There was times where I knew

721
00:50:21.519 --> 00:50:24.280
when he would come down from the
press box when he had access, like

722
00:50:24.320 --> 00:50:28.480
you didn't have to take no elevator
if he was away game where and he

723
00:50:28.519 --> 00:50:31.920
would be running down and I remember
he was on he was on the sideline

724
00:50:31.960 --> 00:50:36.679
and we kind of looked and everybody
was like, Doozy on his way and

725
00:50:36.719 --> 00:50:43.719
everybody gonna be like and I just
visualized, like he just starts to tumble,

726
00:50:43.840 --> 00:50:45.599
like I was like, there's gonna
be that one time he gonna just

727
00:50:45.719 --> 00:50:49.679
bite it. And he never did, but he used to run real fast,

728
00:50:49.800 --> 00:50:59.719
like man, them calves don't keep
him balaging like this, I'm like,

729
00:50:59.760 --> 00:51:07.199
no, why Like his coach cast, we were messing. We ain't

730
00:51:07.239 --> 00:51:15.239
talk about that that Baylor game.
Yeah, Buddy Cotton Bowl, Oh man,

731
00:51:15.760 --> 00:51:17.639
that was one of the best ones, one of the best ones.

732
00:51:19.000 --> 00:51:22.480
Yeah, used come back, man, Yeah that was great. You're down

733
00:51:22.519 --> 00:51:27.159
in Texas Stadium, right, you
know where the Cowboys play and there was

734
00:51:27.199 --> 00:51:34.320
a interception was that an interception or
block kick that you're you're part of the

735
00:51:34.320 --> 00:51:39.840
block punt and there was a field
goal. Now yeah, I don't know

736
00:51:39.840 --> 00:51:44.559
if we have that video that we
can show where Tony laid the wood on

737
00:51:44.639 --> 00:51:51.599
somebody from the Bailor Bears. Now
we already know my man still thinking about

738
00:51:51.639 --> 00:51:57.960
this now to this day. He
tweeted after the game, I'm alive.

739
00:52:00.360 --> 00:52:06.960
I was like, you know,
it's crazy though. If that was to

740
00:52:06.960 --> 00:52:09.159
happen today, that's what exactly what
I was gonna say. It would have

741
00:52:09.159 --> 00:52:14.199
been a legal blind side and it
have been called back and then they would

742
00:52:14.199 --> 00:52:15.800
have got the ball back, but
they probably would have kicked me out of

743
00:52:15.800 --> 00:52:21.239
the game. Yeah, yeah,
well I know they were talking about target

744
00:52:21.280 --> 00:52:25.119
it, targeting, but h but
I j yeah, talking through that,

745
00:52:25.280 --> 00:52:30.000
talk through that for sure. Um, this was like I said, I

746
00:52:30.000 --> 00:52:34.880
think we was down by six at
that time. They had just got like

747
00:52:34.880 --> 00:52:37.480
a penalty, and it took him
out of rain. I think RJ through

748
00:52:37.519 --> 00:52:43.639
it like a sideline pass to I
think it was a good, good one,

749
00:52:43.719 --> 00:52:45.639
good man, a good one and
RJ hit him on the outside.

750
00:52:45.719 --> 00:52:49.679
They made it to like a forty
time of year field goal, and we

751
00:52:49.800 --> 00:52:51.840
just like shit, I mean,
we didn't block a couple of field though,

752
00:52:51.920 --> 00:52:53.280
so we know, like we can
definitely push and get a block,

753
00:52:53.719 --> 00:52:57.880
so I'm not mistaken. I think
rush block Marcus rush block did I think

754
00:52:57.920 --> 00:53:01.440
he did? And and the thing
is like if you watch me on that

755
00:53:01.519 --> 00:53:07.119
plate, I'm literally trying to lead
RJ to the end zone. But my

756
00:53:07.199 --> 00:53:10.800
eye I seen him flashing. If
I wouldn't have got him, I think

757
00:53:10.800 --> 00:53:15.480
he would have tackled or tripped up
RJ. And RJ wouldn't have took it

758
00:53:15.760 --> 00:53:19.239
thirty yards down the field after that, I think he would have tackled him

759
00:53:19.280 --> 00:53:22.559
because he was flashing through the screen. So I'm I'm I'm going and not

760
00:53:22.599 --> 00:53:25.559
just see him at the corner of
my eye and I just kind of refers

761
00:53:25.639 --> 00:53:30.679
out and I'm like, shit,
I'm about to lay him out head like

762
00:53:30.119 --> 00:53:36.559
panatistics because he was just running like
he went on the floor. You got

763
00:53:36.679 --> 00:53:44.039
to watch on somebody. You can't
just being you ain't about to get hit

764
00:53:44.199 --> 00:53:45.960
so and you know he had kickers. That was the kicker, so he

765
00:53:46.039 --> 00:53:49.480
like, ain't touch me. I'm
like, no, I'm about touching.

766
00:53:51.760 --> 00:53:53.840
So I so I hit him,
and I knew I got a good lick

767
00:53:53.920 --> 00:54:00.480
on him, but I ain't know
like him rolling over and rolling back until

768
00:54:00.039 --> 00:54:04.239
until I seen it after the game. But as you see me as like

769
00:54:04.239 --> 00:54:07.480
we running, he running, I
kind of turned back to see like did

770
00:54:07.480 --> 00:54:09.159
he get up where he had what's
going on? I see him on the

771
00:54:09.199 --> 00:54:13.079
ground. I'm like, dang,
I hope you all right. But we

772
00:54:13.119 --> 00:54:20.239
got to win this game. So
I mean I was a big play Like

773
00:54:20.280 --> 00:54:22.400
you said, I was a big
play man. We had to kind of

774
00:54:22.400 --> 00:54:24.880
had the momentum. It was only
it was like under a minute left,

775
00:54:25.280 --> 00:54:28.400
a minute a half, whatever it
was. It was kind of a minute

776
00:54:28.440 --> 00:54:30.519
left. That was like gonna be
like the last real drive of the game,

777
00:54:31.239 --> 00:54:36.079
and we had to make a play. We had to make that happening.

778
00:54:36.800 --> 00:54:38.360
I was glad to be a part
of that. We got it coming

779
00:54:38.480 --> 00:54:43.840
up right here. So like look
like I'm like, I turned, I'm

780
00:54:43.880 --> 00:55:06.159
out and I see him flash what
to play that? As a lover of

781
00:55:06.239 --> 00:55:09.239
kickers, Tony, you don't know
how lunch, this makes me feel so

782
00:55:09.239 --> 00:55:15.280
good that you did that to that
kicker. Oh man, hey, he

783
00:55:15.400 --> 00:55:21.480
on the football field match. You
gotta keep his hand peeled back. Oh

784
00:55:21.480 --> 00:55:23.719
my god, bro, he was
running so hard too. He was not

785
00:55:23.800 --> 00:55:29.320
gonna catch RJ at that point.
He might have tripped them. Like the

786
00:55:29.360 --> 00:55:32.079
song, Like if you watched the
big screen and then you see it like

787
00:55:32.119 --> 00:55:36.719
he was closing and you think,
yeah, I just look at the ref

788
00:55:36.840 --> 00:55:39.880
the ref like now the bill was
yah yah, yeah, it was over.

789
00:55:40.800 --> 00:55:45.239
Oh man, that's awesome. I
was. I was on the sideline.

790
00:55:45.239 --> 00:55:47.440
I was like, RJ, why
ain't you cut in to score?

791
00:55:47.519 --> 00:55:51.000
Because he was just running straight to
the sideline. I was like, bru,

792
00:55:51.119 --> 00:55:53.280
when you'll vision that, he was
like, its kind of like the

793
00:55:53.360 --> 00:55:57.519
old place, you know, you
know that was bailing. Hey, they

794
00:55:57.639 --> 00:56:05.119
snapping the ball and so he was
game though. Man, that was definitely

795
00:56:05.119 --> 00:56:07.800
a big game. Yeah, but
you know that that that was a big

796
00:56:07.840 --> 00:56:13.039
comeback in that. So what was
the feeling like on the sideline when you

797
00:56:13.039 --> 00:56:15.880
guys were down like that and then
started to make that comeback? What was

798
00:56:15.920 --> 00:56:22.199
that feeling like on the sidelines?
Um, when we was down, I

799
00:56:22.280 --> 00:56:27.599
felt like the energy was there,
but some people probably was a little down

800
00:56:27.679 --> 00:56:30.639
and like a little out. But
we were still locked in because we know

801
00:56:30.800 --> 00:56:34.159
we could win. Like we knew
what type of team we was. We

802
00:56:34.239 --> 00:56:36.760
knew like we knew better was a
good team. We knew that was air

803
00:56:36.880 --> 00:56:38.199
raided. There was gonna throw the
ball all over the field, but we

804
00:56:38.280 --> 00:56:42.920
knew they couldn't stop us some offense, and we knew like if we just

805
00:56:43.000 --> 00:56:45.719
made a few stocks, we could
win. But you know you're going you're

806
00:56:45.719 --> 00:56:50.039
going into the fourth quarter down by
twenty. You know, some people might

807
00:56:50.119 --> 00:56:51.960
chalk it up so like, hey, you know it's into the game.

808
00:56:52.000 --> 00:56:55.519
But I remember having the conversation with
Lane on the sideline lane for the running

809
00:56:55.519 --> 00:56:59.119
back when we was down. It
was the beginning of the fourth quarter.

810
00:56:59.840 --> 00:57:02.159
We downed by twenty, and I'm
like, I'm looking at it, I'm

811
00:57:02.199 --> 00:57:06.039
talking to him. I'm like,
Hey, this is gonna have to be

812
00:57:06.079 --> 00:57:10.639
one hell of a mad and come
back, bro, And like that's where

813
00:57:10.639 --> 00:57:13.920
I was at. I'm thinking,
like, Bro, we could still win.

814
00:57:14.000 --> 00:57:15.960
Like you feel me like, we
could still win. We just gotta

815
00:57:15.280 --> 00:57:17.960
score and get stopped. We gotta
score and get stopped. It's gonna be

816
00:57:19.039 --> 00:57:22.559
tough because we see that they could
put up points in ten seconds. You

817
00:57:22.559 --> 00:57:25.039
feel me like, I think one
of their first plays out of the out

818
00:57:25.079 --> 00:57:30.000
of half time was like an eighty
yard bomb to Katie Cannon. So they

819
00:57:30.000 --> 00:57:31.639
could really strike the band at any
time. But we're like, bro,

820
00:57:31.719 --> 00:57:36.920
we just need to get some clutch
stops right now, and if we get

821
00:57:36.920 --> 00:57:40.480
this momentum going, they might get
tighten because they probably got the game still.

822
00:57:40.559 --> 00:57:43.480
They thinking like they got like oh, as you said, on the

823
00:57:43.519 --> 00:57:46.559
sideline, they were talking jump.
Oh, so what you think, what

824
00:57:46.639 --> 00:57:49.519
do you think? How do you
think that was feeling when they was up

825
00:57:49.559 --> 00:57:54.920
by twenty were talking about the sideline
because remember they had that hype squad like

826
00:57:54.960 --> 00:57:59.519
that, Yeah, and they was
always like the sitting in the middle of

827
00:57:59.599 --> 00:58:01.519
the game and the whole game.
And then we started to come back and

828
00:58:01.599 --> 00:58:07.000
that dancing was kind of like start
and then our side war and took that

829
00:58:07.079 --> 00:58:10.599
momentum and they we dance it sorry, and you know, like the energy

830
00:58:10.599 --> 00:58:14.519
and the energy and the stadium is
real, like you can feel it.

831
00:58:14.599 --> 00:58:16.840
You can feel if you if you
locked in and you wired and you aligned,

832
00:58:16.880 --> 00:58:20.639
you can feel that energy shift.
And it started to shift. We

833
00:58:20.639 --> 00:58:22.480
started to make plays, We started
to make catches, We started to you

834
00:58:22.519 --> 00:58:27.079
know, make stomps. And then
it came down to right before a month

835
00:58:27.119 --> 00:58:30.800
sport. It was it was a
fourth and ten, like we had went

836
00:58:30.880 --> 00:58:36.519
three straight downs, no yards,
and then it was fourth and ten and

837
00:58:36.559 --> 00:58:38.800
this was the way this is for
us to even like get to months scoring

838
00:58:38.840 --> 00:58:42.920
the ball. I'm like, man, we gotta make a play, man,

839
00:58:42.960 --> 00:58:45.199
we gotta do something. And that's
when, uh, you know,

840
00:58:45.280 --> 00:58:47.519
kind of threw the smash fade to
me on the sideline on the sideline,

841
00:58:49.440 --> 00:58:52.079
and that was one of our brand
butter players like we we are. We

842
00:58:52.119 --> 00:58:55.760
connected on that like in our sleep
because we ran it so much in June

843
00:58:55.840 --> 00:59:00.039
and July and in May, like
we was locked in on that, so

844
00:59:00.079 --> 00:59:05.800
we knew like how to work it
up. But like I said, man,

845
00:59:05.840 --> 00:59:08.159
that game was so live man,
and energy shifted and we was ready

846
00:59:08.159 --> 00:59:12.079
to win. So we had to
lock in. You can't win that game

847
00:59:12.159 --> 00:59:15.079
where you ain't locked in. You
can't come back like that if you ain't

848
00:59:15.079 --> 00:59:17.719
locked in. So we had to
be locked in enough to come back down

849
00:59:17.760 --> 00:59:22.800
twenty specially on the team that throws
the ball in five seconds. From saying

850
00:59:22.159 --> 00:59:27.159
so right, man, did you
know I mean you talked about the work

851
00:59:27.199 --> 00:59:30.400
you guys put in the summertime,
spring, summer and fall and all in

852
00:59:30.440 --> 00:59:35.320
the championships that you had. Did
you realize you were in a golden era

853
00:59:35.920 --> 00:59:40.360
of Michigan State football at that time? Yeah? I did. I did.

854
00:59:40.760 --> 00:59:49.320
Like I would tell people, I
would tell people, I think it's

855
00:59:49.320 --> 00:59:52.679
a little Michigan State take right here. I think thirteen, fourteen and fifteen

856
00:59:52.840 --> 00:59:58.039
is like some of the best years
at Michigan State history. In Michigan State

857
00:59:58.079 --> 01:00:00.440
football, I think we was to
win this class. I think we you

858
01:00:00.440 --> 01:00:02.880
know, we won a Rose Bowl, we won a Cotton Bowl, and

859
01:00:02.920 --> 01:00:06.119
then we went to the playoffs.
The next year we lost, but we

860
01:00:06.159 --> 01:00:08.639
went to the playoffs. Were still
a top four team. Was a top

861
01:00:08.760 --> 01:00:13.320
four or five team going into it. If the playoffs started in the Rose

862
01:00:13.360 --> 01:00:15.719
Bowl, we would have been in
the National Championship and I think we would

863
01:00:15.760 --> 01:00:20.559
have won. Who would be played
Florida State or I think we wouldn't be

864
01:00:20.559 --> 01:00:23.920
FLI to State. I think Winston, like we was that type of team

865
01:00:23.960 --> 01:00:27.719
that could, you know, go
against anybody. So like I said,

866
01:00:28.199 --> 01:00:30.840
um, you don't feel it in
that moment because you end it. But

867
01:00:30.960 --> 01:00:35.599
like as I had time to reflect, you know, take a step away

868
01:00:35.599 --> 01:00:37.880
from the game, I could definitely, I definitely would put those three years

869
01:00:37.880 --> 01:00:43.119
of Michigan State football up against any
three years of Michigan State football in history,

870
01:00:43.679 --> 01:00:45.599
you know. And we put out
a lot of guys in the league.

871
01:00:45.639 --> 01:00:47.480
We had a lot of guys,
you know, all Big ten,

872
01:00:47.639 --> 01:00:52.119
all Americans, and we you know, we had had a lot of great

873
01:00:52.159 --> 01:00:55.400
guys that actually you know, jailed
and rock with each other still to this

874
01:00:55.480 --> 01:00:59.960
day. Like there's a lot of
guys on those teams that are still cool

875
01:01:00.079 --> 01:01:05.199
to this day. And like you
saying it at the at the ten year,

876
01:01:05.239 --> 01:01:07.599
you're gonna see like we all kind
of titlan, We're gonna talk to

877
01:01:07.679 --> 01:01:12.079
junk just like if we was in
Case Hall. This is gonna be just

878
01:01:12.159 --> 01:01:16.840
like that even though ten years.
Yeah, so quite the visionary of coach

879
01:01:16.920 --> 01:01:22.920
D. And we talked about like
he does some Coach D does some outland

880
01:01:22.000 --> 01:01:27.239
just things to get us motivated,
like we've seen this right, And so

881
01:01:27.400 --> 01:01:30.559
he took a trip out prior to
that season and he this is me.

882
01:01:30.719 --> 01:01:34.440
I feel like cell phone on the
video start to kind of you know,

883
01:01:34.800 --> 01:01:38.400
go go catching way basically, and
he did a video saying you will be

884
01:01:38.440 --> 01:01:42.719
the ones and that was your like
you did that video, show y'all to

885
01:01:42.800 --> 01:01:45.920
that. But like when you saw
that video, talk about just a feeling

886
01:01:45.000 --> 01:01:51.199
of coach Coach D speaking into existence
that you gotta think, Philip be great

887
01:01:51.559 --> 01:01:53.880
and you guys will be the ones
to truly turn the tide of the Michigan

888
01:01:53.880 --> 01:01:58.639
state football history and win a national
championship or the Rose Bowl. But like

889
01:01:58.679 --> 01:02:01.360
talking about that video, itself,
like you gotta have a vision, you

890
01:02:01.400 --> 01:02:05.360
know, like you gotta you gotta
want to reach something. And you know,

891
01:02:05.440 --> 01:02:07.880
Coach d put that out there.
He put that out there like,

892
01:02:07.880 --> 01:02:08.800
hey, we need to be in
the Rose Bowl. You feel me.

893
01:02:08.840 --> 01:02:12.280
If it ain't the Rose Bowl,
it's National Championship. We need to be

894
01:02:12.320 --> 01:02:15.119
in this game. And he made
us believe like we had the squad to

895
01:02:15.199 --> 01:02:20.000
do it. But he he made
us believe that we could and we had

896
01:02:20.039 --> 01:02:24.719
the guys. And like you said, he's always say these little things and

897
01:02:24.960 --> 01:02:30.800
it don't make sense to you at
the moment, but later on you kind

898
01:02:30.800 --> 01:02:35.440
of realized, Okay, I understand
that more now. Maybe it's ten years

899
01:02:35.440 --> 01:02:37.760
down the line, maybe you understand
it now what he was saying in two

900
01:02:37.800 --> 01:02:40.039
thousand and ten or two thousand and
eight. Maybe he said some things to

901
01:02:40.119 --> 01:02:45.440
y'all that didn't register at that moment, but years down the line kind of

902
01:02:45.440 --> 01:02:47.039
think back, like, Okay,
that was I needed that, even though

903
01:02:47.039 --> 01:02:51.679
I didn't understand that I needed that. So he planned that seed, you

904
01:02:51.719 --> 01:02:54.440
know, and I feel like he
felt like we had the squad. He

905
01:02:54.519 --> 01:02:58.840
felt like we had the guys coming
back. In two thousand and twelve,

906
01:02:59.119 --> 01:03:04.400
we lost five games from a total
of like ten points, were losing games

907
01:03:04.400 --> 01:03:07.559
by like one point. We had
like an up and down years, but

908
01:03:07.679 --> 01:03:12.039
we had a bunch of guys that
could really play football, you know,

909
01:03:12.119 --> 01:03:15.519
and we had a bunch of guys
that was leaders. Like even if you

910
01:03:15.599 --> 01:03:16.920
wasn't the captain, you was a
leader. We can go to the Nico

911
01:03:17.000 --> 01:03:21.199
s Allen. We can go to
Marcus Rush, you feel me. We

912
01:03:21.239 --> 01:03:24.360
can go to Quiz, we can
go to Max. We can go to

913
01:03:24.639 --> 01:03:30.039
Benny Fowler, we can go to
even Penalty my boys, we can go

914
01:03:30.159 --> 01:03:36.440
to Travis Jackson, we can go
to Jack Conklin like I can go on

915
01:03:36.559 --> 01:03:40.119
and on kind of cruise Donoman Clark, I can go on and on.

916
01:03:40.280 --> 01:03:45.000
We had all these guys that wanted
to win. You feel me, Like,

917
01:03:45.119 --> 01:03:49.320
you can't just spring that on somebody
that you probably don't think that can

918
01:03:49.360 --> 01:03:52.559
reach that. We had a bunch
of guys that really wanted to win,

919
01:03:52.119 --> 01:03:55.559
and we just had to, you
know, continue to build our confidence on

920
01:03:55.599 --> 01:03:59.440
where we was going. And it
was good for us winning that bowl game.

921
01:03:59.480 --> 01:04:01.039
But two twelve, so we can
roll into the off season like,

922
01:04:01.119 --> 01:04:04.920
okay, now we can start to
what we really want to do and that's

923
01:04:05.000 --> 01:04:08.599
being a Rose Bowl. And he
planned that seed on us. He put

924
01:04:08.639 --> 01:04:13.119
that vision in our head and everywhere
every drill we did from winn A conditioning,

925
01:04:13.239 --> 01:04:16.880
every every practice we was prepping to
win the Rose Bowl, were prepping

926
01:04:16.920 --> 01:04:19.360
to go to the Rose Bowl.
And like I said, it started with

927
01:04:19.440 --> 01:04:24.559
coach d and um. He instilled
us with that confidence even though a lot

928
01:04:24.599 --> 01:04:27.519
of us had confidence. But you
know, sometimes you need that extra push

929
01:04:27.639 --> 01:04:30.639
like hey, you can be a
national championship champion if you want to.

930
01:04:30.000 --> 01:04:32.320
And then you started to planning like, oh man, I can You know

931
01:04:32.639 --> 01:04:35.880
I can get a four point though, but you gotta say it first.

932
01:04:35.880 --> 01:04:39.559
You gotta believe it, you gotta
feel, you gotta be in here with

933
01:04:39.639 --> 01:04:45.039
it. So you know, coach
he always got them sains man. He

934
01:04:45.159 --> 01:04:47.559
got the sins man to where you
like, you feel it and they didn't

935
01:04:47.599 --> 01:04:55.280
do the look. You know,
he'd say something, You're like, what's

936
01:04:55.280 --> 01:05:00.119
he talking about? And he was
incredible and even going back to the the

937
01:05:00.239 --> 01:05:04.039
banquet the year before when he said
you will be the ones, that was

938
01:05:04.159 --> 01:05:09.400
really a prophetic moment by Mark D'Antonio. You will be the ones. The

939
01:05:09.400 --> 01:05:11.360
next thing, you know, you
guys go to the Rose Bowl and win

940
01:05:11.440 --> 01:05:14.000
it. But you know, you
know, before we let you go,

941
01:05:14.039 --> 01:05:15.360
we do want to talk about I
mean, look, you were drafted in

942
01:05:15.360 --> 01:05:19.800
the fifth round by the Miami Dolphins. You had a great NFL pro football

943
01:05:19.880 --> 01:05:24.239
career. Talk a little about what
Michigan State did to prepare you for that

944
01:05:24.280 --> 01:05:28.480
and how the difference with the differences
between college game and the in the pro

945
01:05:28.559 --> 01:05:31.840
game. Um college game, the
difference is, first off, there's NFL

946
01:05:31.880 --> 01:05:34.719
players and as college players, that's
the difference. I mean, college players

947
01:05:34.719 --> 01:05:40.840
are great, but NFL players are
the top every position, are the top

948
01:05:40.880 --> 01:05:43.480
top guys. Like I know,
you got a lot of guys in college

949
01:05:43.519 --> 01:05:45.199
that wasn't man they high school and
now you've got a lot of guys in

950
01:05:45.239 --> 01:05:49.239
the NFL that's them guys. So
the speed of the game is faster,

951
01:05:49.400 --> 01:05:53.800
they're they're older. You're not playing
against twenty one year old, twenty two

952
01:05:53.880 --> 01:05:56.199
year old something. You're going into
the league and now you're playing against the

953
01:05:56.239 --> 01:05:59.280
thirty one year old. I've been
playing this for eight years, so it's

954
01:05:59.320 --> 01:06:04.519
different. It's like it's the pros
um that's a big difference. I've got

955
01:06:04.519 --> 01:06:13.239
the first question do I would tell
me? I would say this preparation,

956
01:06:13.320 --> 01:06:15.400
man, like it taught me how
to watch film, what to look for,

957
01:06:15.719 --> 01:06:18.599
like, how to practice, you
feel me, how to take care

958
01:06:18.599 --> 01:06:23.559
of your body, like really,
how to compete at a high level every

959
01:06:23.639 --> 01:06:27.760
day. Like that's what coach d
build, like competing at a high level

960
01:06:27.840 --> 01:06:31.280
every day, Like like keep competing
against each other, challenging each other,

961
01:06:31.400 --> 01:06:36.719
even if that's in a cone drill
and winter conditioning. It's just like competing

962
01:06:36.840 --> 01:06:40.599
and you're getting better. So I
would say that because there's something. You

963
01:06:40.599 --> 01:06:43.599
know, some schools that don't practice
that's hard, or that don't compete that's

964
01:06:43.599 --> 01:06:45.239
hard, and you can tell when
you're playing against them. I'm sure y'all

965
01:06:45.280 --> 01:06:49.760
played against guys and they don't play
as hard as you because you practice hard.

966
01:06:49.800 --> 01:06:56.519
Like we we we we lie attacking, we had real Like I'm from

967
01:06:56.559 --> 01:07:01.800
the era of real two days.
I know, y'all. Oh yeah,

968
01:07:02.000 --> 01:07:06.880
I know, y'all. Like my
last year, I think my last year

969
01:07:06.960 --> 01:07:11.960
was like the last year of two
days. But I'm from them days where

970
01:07:12.880 --> 01:07:15.360
it's two and a half practice,
two and a half our practice in the

971
01:07:15.440 --> 01:07:17.719
morning, and it's two and a
half our practice at night too, and

972
01:07:17.719 --> 01:07:21.360
it ain't just all the team drills
and morning especial teams at night. No,

973
01:07:21.480 --> 01:07:26.280
we're gonna do the same thing,
the same script. So I'm from

974
01:07:26.360 --> 01:07:28.280
that. It just taught you how
to compete. It taught you how to

975
01:07:28.280 --> 01:07:31.559
you know, challenge yourself, how
to overcome obstacles, you know, chase

976
01:07:31.599 --> 01:07:35.039
greatness. So you know, I'm
straight aheaded. You know you were drafted

977
01:07:35.079 --> 01:07:39.840
by the Dolphins. So you're in
Miami. The big question. Everyone wants

978
01:07:39.880 --> 01:07:44.559
to know, a night out in
my Ami in South Beach or a night

979
01:07:44.559 --> 01:07:49.880
out in east Lands? Oh boy, hey man, you know you know

980
01:07:49.920 --> 01:07:54.400
I love my east Lands. I
love you know, I love a lands

981
01:07:54.599 --> 01:08:09.360
man. My Miami is Miami live
you This is this is a final question

982
01:08:09.400 --> 01:08:13.920
because I know you just recently uh
put out you know, social statement of

983
01:08:14.280 --> 01:08:17.640
you hung the cleats up right at
at any given moment, and every player

984
01:08:17.680 --> 01:08:21.000
that plays this game, it's gonna
be a time where you have to hang

985
01:08:21.079 --> 01:08:26.479
them up and and not hang them
up half you know, half off straveling

986
01:08:26.479 --> 01:08:29.399
offense. You got to make that
decision and you got to live with that.

987
01:08:29.479 --> 01:08:34.039
But talk about that process and then
finally come into that uh that fire

988
01:08:34.319 --> 01:08:38.079
stage of like, hey, the
game has done so much for me but

989
01:08:38.359 --> 01:08:42.479
talk about that that that post and
making that decision. I mean, you

990
01:08:42.520 --> 01:08:45.720
know, as an athlete, man, you never you never okay with you

991
01:08:45.760 --> 01:08:48.880
know, giv it up. You
never like preparing for that moment. You

992
01:08:48.920 --> 01:08:50.720
know, you know, you don't
know what it's gonna happen. You don't

993
01:08:50.760 --> 01:08:54.479
know when you're gonna stop getting a
call. You don't know nothing that you

994
01:08:54.520 --> 01:08:57.680
don't prepare for it, like you
don't prepare to get fired from your job.

995
01:08:57.720 --> 01:09:00.319
You know, you just it happens
and you just have to you know,

996
01:09:00.920 --> 01:09:03.000
react to it and respond to it. So um, you know,

997
01:09:03.039 --> 01:09:06.199
it took it took it took a
while. It took a while to you

998
01:09:06.199 --> 01:09:10.800
know, come to turns with it
because that's something I've been doing since I

999
01:09:10.920 --> 01:09:15.560
was ship before I was probably about
five. I was playing football when I

1000
01:09:15.600 --> 01:09:18.119
was four or five years old in
neighborhood and that was one of my that

1001
01:09:18.199 --> 01:09:20.920
was my first love for sure.
So it was kind of hard to,

1002
01:09:21.000 --> 01:09:26.920
you know, come to this point. But I can honestly say I don't

1003
01:09:26.960 --> 01:09:29.279
have no regrets. I feel like, you know, I left it all

1004
01:09:29.319 --> 01:09:30.560
on the field, like I enjoyed
what I did on the field. I

1005
01:09:30.560 --> 01:09:33.439
feel like I made plays. I
feel like I made people around me better.

1006
01:09:34.039 --> 01:09:38.920
Um, I didn't cheat the game, you know, Um, I

1007
01:09:39.039 --> 01:09:41.479
just trying to give it my all
every time my step out there. That's

1008
01:09:41.479 --> 01:09:44.840
playing offense, defense, special teams, that's being a gunner one week,

1009
01:09:44.880 --> 01:09:48.359
if that's being you know, quarterback
in practice for Michigan week, if that's

1010
01:09:48.960 --> 01:09:53.479
being a scout team whatever over here, if that's playing one hundred and twenty

1011
01:09:53.479 --> 01:09:56.680
snaps a game, I can honestly
say, you know, I left it

1012
01:09:56.680 --> 01:09:59.359
out on the field, and you
know, I'm proud of what I did.

1013
01:09:59.680 --> 01:10:01.640
And it took me some time to
come to that moment because, like

1014
01:10:01.680 --> 01:10:05.560
I said, doing something twenty five
years, twenty five plus years that you

1015
01:10:05.640 --> 01:10:13.079
kind of like don't know how to
separate yourself from me. But I enjoyed

1016
01:10:13.359 --> 01:10:15.119
my time when the field I had
it. I was able to like actually

1017
01:10:15.119 --> 01:10:18.720
look back at what I've done,
you know, and smile and laugh and

1018
01:10:18.800 --> 01:10:21.479
you know, enjoy that, enjoy
that moment even more it is. You

1019
01:10:21.479 --> 01:10:25.600
know, there's times what you're doing
you can't enjoy it because you're already looking

1020
01:10:25.640 --> 01:10:28.920
at the next week. You're not
you can't enjoy that pick you had in

1021
01:10:29.000 --> 01:10:31.399
the back of the end zone versus
the dame because you got to play next

1022
01:10:31.399 --> 01:10:34.279
week. You feel me, you
gotta make a play next week. You're

1023
01:10:34.279 --> 01:10:38.560
already talking about the next week.
So when you actually be able to take

1024
01:10:38.600 --> 01:10:42.760
a step, take a deep breath
back from the game. I was able

1025
01:10:42.800 --> 01:10:46.119
to smile, you know, and
show, you know, show my doory,

1026
01:10:46.159 --> 01:10:48.319
like, hey, you know,
your daddy made a lot of plays.

1027
01:10:49.439 --> 01:10:54.079
Whatever level I was ating, it
was high school, little league,

1028
01:10:54.239 --> 01:10:57.800
pal college, you know, NFL, whatever it was. You know,

1029
01:10:57.840 --> 01:11:00.760
I left it out on the field
and I was okay with that. I

1030
01:11:00.800 --> 01:11:03.800
was okay with that. I enjoyed
my time. You know, you know,

1031
01:11:03.800 --> 01:11:05.640
it's time to give my knowledge,
you know, to you know,

1032
01:11:05.680 --> 01:11:11.119
the next generation and generation after that. But yeah, man, it clicks

1033
01:11:11.239 --> 01:11:14.039
is up. Man, you know, well, hell of a career,

1034
01:11:14.119 --> 01:11:24.680
hell of a career away. What's
next though? Oh man, there's a

1035
01:11:24.680 --> 01:11:28.319
lot of things, man. Kind
of want to do a lot of things.

1036
01:11:28.359 --> 01:11:30.239
I know. I want to train
kids. I want to give them

1037
01:11:30.239 --> 01:11:31.319
the knowledge that I have, um, you know, and just help them

1038
01:11:31.319 --> 01:11:34.880
as much as I can, whatever
it is, if it's a release here

1039
01:11:35.000 --> 01:11:38.520
or backpedal there, or whatever it
is. I just want to help them

1040
01:11:38.600 --> 01:11:40.800
on and off the field and give
them the knowledge that I do have.

1041
01:11:41.760 --> 01:11:45.159
UM, I would like to coach
later on, later on right now,

1042
01:11:45.399 --> 01:11:48.319
but I definitely want to train.
I don't want to coach as much right

1043
01:11:48.359 --> 01:11:51.119
now. But kind of just been
kicking with my family, you know,

1044
01:11:51.199 --> 01:11:55.119
lady, keep doing with my daughter. Got a seven year old daughter,

1045
01:11:55.159 --> 01:11:58.800
so I've been spend a lot of
time with her. But like I said,

1046
01:11:59.079 --> 01:12:01.000
it's gonna be a lot of things. I don't know exactly, but

1047
01:12:01.039 --> 01:12:04.840
there's gonna be a lot of things. Definitely a lot of things. Keep

1048
01:12:04.960 --> 01:12:10.000
having test with that, you know, absolutely, man. I mean this

1049
01:12:10.560 --> 01:12:14.239
note to all the youngsters out there
listening. This is why we tell you

1050
01:12:14.239 --> 01:12:16.520
got to leave it on the field, because that is the place that all

1051
01:12:16.560 --> 01:12:18.560
of us get to, right You
have to get to that point where you

1052
01:12:18.560 --> 01:12:23.039
have to hang those fleets up,
and it's much easier to do it when

1053
01:12:23.039 --> 01:12:26.399
you know you left it on the
field, like you just described so eloquently.

1054
01:12:26.439 --> 01:12:29.840
Lived that was great. We really
love having you on the show.

1055
01:12:29.880 --> 01:12:31.600
Man can talk to you for a
long time, and we got people in

1056
01:12:31.600 --> 01:12:35.479
the chat asking and you know,
spend four hours with you. So definitely,

1057
01:12:36.439 --> 01:12:41.439
thank you very much. I got
stories with days man. Appreciate y'all.

1058
01:12:41.479 --> 01:12:43.760
For having me on. Man whenever, y'all, whenever, y'all me

1059
01:12:43.800 --> 01:12:45.560
all man, let me know,
man, wet time. We all good,

1060
01:12:45.680 --> 01:12:48.279
y'all don't know. I got some
got some story, I got some

1061
01:12:48.359 --> 01:12:53.199
jump to talk. Man. We'll
see it in a few weeks. We'll

1062
01:12:53.199 --> 01:12:55.720
see it in a few weeks up
here for the ten year of reunion,

1063
01:12:56.079 --> 01:13:00.560
the anniversary, I will be there
talking John. All right, you spend

1064
01:13:00.560 --> 01:13:06.079
time with us. Man, All
up, brother man, all that Tony

1065
01:13:06.159 --> 01:13:11.600
Lippid excellent. Man. Hey,
you know guy left it on the field

1066
01:13:11.600 --> 01:13:15.520
for us. Yeah yeah, I
mean too. I heard cracking his neck

1067
01:13:15.680 --> 01:13:18.079
like, oh man, you gotta
come a bold serious in you too,

1068
01:13:18.520 --> 01:13:30.600
no serious series. Look, keep
it keeping within five yards to go line.

1069
01:13:30.680 --> 01:13:34.159
Basically you said, right, yeah, yeah, I get that jumper

1070
01:13:34.279 --> 01:13:45.920
package. That was Oh yeah,
I mean, y'all, don't hurt your

1071
01:13:45.920 --> 01:13:50.119
one arm was heavy and uh no, that was just look, man,

1072
01:13:50.640 --> 01:13:56.000
I love just to see like we
saw him grow up, like as a

1073
01:13:56.159 --> 01:14:00.000
young freshman and being at you know, working at Michigan State doing radio and

1074
01:14:00.359 --> 01:14:04.119
I mean straight, you got a
lot of guys that have came through that

1075
01:14:04.199 --> 01:14:09.039
you've seen developing now into adulthood.
Me and too, as you know,

1076
01:14:09.199 --> 01:14:12.720
as proof and to see the full
circle, like Coach d always said,

1077
01:14:12.800 --> 01:14:17.319
full circle. I've talked to those
coach Duh D'Antonio isms where you got to

1078
01:14:17.359 --> 01:14:20.319
complete the full circle. And when
you do complete it, like you said,

1079
01:14:20.319 --> 01:14:24.399
you didn't, you don't leave nothing, uh, you know out on

1080
01:14:24.439 --> 01:14:28.319
that field and no regret um because
that's the deepest part of you know,

1081
01:14:28.359 --> 01:14:30.960
the sparer and some you know,
depression, is that you regret things that

1082
01:14:31.000 --> 01:14:34.760
you should have done. It should
have cut it right. Uh. For

1083
01:14:34.760 --> 01:14:39.880
for a guy to to still be
young, but also make that decision for

1084
01:14:40.000 --> 01:14:43.760
his future, I mean that's a
huge test because we all went through that

1085
01:14:44.319 --> 01:14:48.319
full life journey of making that decision. Like, I still got some many

1086
01:14:48.359 --> 01:14:53.479
I still got something you like,
no, bro, Like it's it's it's

1087
01:14:53.560 --> 01:14:57.000
it's it's done right. And so
just to hear the stories, to hear

1088
01:14:57.600 --> 01:15:01.439
like everything he talked about was facts
for us to be as former players watching

1089
01:15:01.479 --> 01:15:05.399
it unfold and knowing that what happened, what we saw was what exactly what

1090
01:15:05.439 --> 01:15:10.239
was happened on the field in the
locker room and like that squad man,

1091
01:15:10.319 --> 01:15:14.000
like we got a lot of dudes
that we're gonna bring back from that squad

1092
01:15:14.079 --> 01:15:17.319
to interview because like to he started
name dropping, Like man, they were

1093
01:15:17.479 --> 01:15:24.279
absolutely deep Start, but these were
gritty guys who had to work for everything

1094
01:15:24.319 --> 01:15:28.279
that they earned, and I think
that was the mindset. So I'm excited

1095
01:15:28.319 --> 01:15:30.840
to celebrate them. But crazy has
already been ten years like that, that

1096
01:15:31.039 --> 01:15:33.960
flies really fast, but too well, what's your father thoughts on it?

1097
01:15:34.520 --> 01:15:36.560
No? I thought it was a
great show, and I appreciate, you

1098
01:15:36.600 --> 01:15:40.399
know, Tony for coming on,
and you know, it just shows exemplifies,

1099
01:15:40.640 --> 01:15:42.640
you know, what it is to
be a Spartan dog and what this

1100
01:15:42.720 --> 01:15:45.159
show was about gathering like that.
And to answer your question, Art,

1101
01:15:45.800 --> 01:15:49.359
don't worry, we got some stuff
in the works for that. So he

1102
01:15:49.479 --> 01:15:57.039
was to be for the Starter has
a season kickoff show in these lanes and

1103
01:15:57.079 --> 01:16:00.880
so we all can probably we got
something in the works or don't worry.

1104
01:16:00.479 --> 01:16:04.159
I gotta state the whole time because
Art does that irish extra real fast too.

1105
01:16:04.319 --> 01:16:10.800
Yeah, man, I mean you
said something that that that Rose Bowl

1106
01:16:10.800 --> 01:16:13.960
team does have a ton of names. He rattled off a huge laun of

1107
01:16:13.960 --> 01:16:16.680
your list and didn't even include any
linebackers. I think they had a few

1108
01:16:16.680 --> 01:16:21.239
good those guys like Elsworth, Bullo, Darian Harris, all kinds of guys

1109
01:16:21.520 --> 01:16:26.239
at the core as well. That
would be great interviews. But look,

1110
01:16:26.520 --> 01:16:30.640
I mean, look, that was
a great show. Guys. Um awesome

1111
01:16:30.720 --> 01:16:36.079
job. Great to have Mama Tron
on here along with Nick obviously Tony Lippett.

1112
01:16:36.359 --> 01:16:41.199
You know we have I think Brian
Hoyer is coming up on Thursday,

1113
01:16:41.279 --> 01:16:53.079
right and Harriet Dean Honor absolutely yes
on Thursday. You know, thank everybody

1114
01:16:53.119 --> 01:16:55.920
for joining the show. Don't forget
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01:16:55.920 --> 01:16:58.479
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1116
01:16:58.600 --> 01:17:03.119
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1117
01:17:03.119 --> 01:17:09.039
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1118
01:17:09.239 --> 01:17:15.000
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1119
01:17:15.319 --> 01:17:19.920
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