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Yo, what's going on? Everybody? Welcome to another episode of my Cancast.

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I'm Candiday. Yeah, I'm groovy. On today's episode, we have

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special guests Jason, founder, owner
and cultivator of Old School Organics. Yeah.

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How's it going, guys, Jason. Yeah, So we've been kind

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of like excited for this interview for
over a year now because the Zebra Piss

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and we saw your Zebra Piss and
the High Times, so we've just been

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a fan of your stuff. We
love the clean white ash, so it's

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been like curious about the Yeah,
the organics days, all organic over here.

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So I'm really just excited to just
talk to you about Yeah. No,

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I mean he's so, I mean, just Jason, a little bit

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about who you are, you know, where are you from? Like,

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and well we'll get into Old School. There's three of us that are owners

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of Old School again. Um,
myself, my best friend Rich and his

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girlfriend Kelsey. Um, the three
of us about five years ago. Um.

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She approached me because I had been
growing for a long time as a

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caregiver before that, and she had
a lot of experience with using smoking my

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products and yeah, so she she
thought she always thought that that there was

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something there and she was in the
position to be able to fund a project.

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And um, so once I found
out she was interested, um my

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buddy and I we put together a
business plan within the week and we brought

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it to her and uh we got
going. But as you was so glad

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you did, because like, without
it, we wouldn't have tried your stuff.

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So I mean, like, and
it is really crazy sometimes that push

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from your closest people can get you
to get involved and do the things that

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you're like you love doing. You
know. That was twenty eighteen, um

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when we first started the actual venture. But I was a caregiver from two

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thousand and nine till two thousand and
seventeen. When as when you uh change

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over to commercial, they make you
give up any caregiver abilities. Yeah,

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so yeah, and they don't use
two eighteens when you went to the rexite

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or twenty eighteen when we apply applied, right, So it took us three

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years because of COVID building UM licensing
you it was a three years of just

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going through the process. You're saying
yes before three years of going through the

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process. Shout out to you and
your team because that takes patience and a

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few of you. It's a lot
of work, you know. We were

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pulling our hats. Yeah, we
were. Yeah, it was it was

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tough. Um, it was a
lot of stress at first. This was

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early on and that's when there was
still a board UM at the at that

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time. M m M shout out. Uh. They've actually been UM,

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they've actually been really great. UM, they have been. They're very nice

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and they've um where they're running.
They running a clean show right now.

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They've been cleaning up around town and
seems like it's making the market a better

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place and a more fair, fair
place to operate. That's great for especially

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when you're running a business. You
need to be a fair and fair that's

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going with the laws and regulations.
Absolutely. I mean you can there's a

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lot of rules to this UM,
to this market and to this If you're

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cheating the rules, UM, it
creates a very unfair UM market and its

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impossible to compete for for companies who
are following you know, the rules,

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the rules, you know when that's
your competition. So it's more the more

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people you know that are you know, caught and get it, it's going

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to put a message out for the
entire community that's not accepted, and it's

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going to make it a whole lot
easier for small companies like us to be

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able to compete. Ye oh yeah, because I mean that's the thing with

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these I mean, I'm not going
to say which companies I can't calm up,

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but these big, these big lobby
and companies. No, I'm just

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saying, yeah, a couple,
That's what I was saying in my head.

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But like it's more or less just
like, um, it makes it

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really unfair to like, you know, and there's already enough disadvantages to just

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running a cannabis company already, where
you can't rate things off, you can't

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all sorts of stuff. So you're
already well you guys are we're getting all

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the subjects right away. I jump
right in hot heavy there, I didn't

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we were still Yeah, I'm Jason
and I'm yeah from Fort Michigan. There.

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No, But seriously, I like
it. I hope that this is

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a an intense talk because I feel
like there are a lot of intense issues.

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But then, um, I really, you know, I want to

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talk about cannabis like flower appear.
No. No, usually yeah, that's

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the way usually we were talking about
you, but we judge and I do

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want to get intense though too.
I'm ready to hear it. But you

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said you're from poor Urine, so
you you're from Michigan. I'm from Michigan,

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Okay, So that's why it's a
Michigan market special to you for that

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reason. Like absolutely, you know, the first time I ever smoked pot

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was in Michigan and nineteen nineies six
when I was you know, an early

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teen, And I've used cannabis um
to as a crutch for my ADHD that

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I was diagnosed early on. I
cannot stand you know, um stimulant pharma,

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MAG pharma A five ans that whole
world. I was prescribed riddling.

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You know, they try to put
me on that too, So I totally

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get that in six, sixth grade
and it, like man, changed my

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personality. It made it really hard
for me to, uh, you don't

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know, be myself at school.
And I think that it might have created

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some like social anxiety and some other
things that like kind of I don't know.

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I and I had a lot of
behavior problems at school, and um,

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I don't think that speed was the
right solution. No, I think

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they were. I think they were
that riddle right, let's give these kids

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pretty much meth, yeah, because
they're already hyper, but that'll calm them

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down exactly. So riddling didn't work
well for me. So they're like,

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we know, some stronger shit out. It just came out. It's called

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adderall. They're like, that was
probably like I was a small kid,

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you know that. You know,
I'm you know, pre teen, so

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I'm talking sixth grade, seventh grade
right, um. And they had me

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on a thirty milligram salt like I
don't know if you guys know how strong

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the thirties. They had me on
the thirty salt in the morning and I

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would take it and I would be
like right, and I told my I.

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Eventually I I realized that cannabis was
always It brought me into that calmer

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state, palmer state where I wasn't
just like constantly you know, fidgety drummond.

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Do you know I was bouncing off
them off the walls when no,

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no, you're preaching to the choir
over here. I was that kid as

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well. Okay, you ask him. I want to think. I don't

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know. It was probably something to
do with uh, you know, in

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the eight early eighties. I don't
don't think the parents realized what the food

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companies were giving the kids, and
I think this assumed a huge the doctor

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must be good, the doctor knows
or just the food companies were like giving

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us crazy shit food and was causing
like all of these Like you know,

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I was for breakfast. You go
to school, you could get a cinnamon

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roll the size of your head and
a Hawaiian punch right for a dollar fifty

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sugar with rety. You're a eleven
years old man, you're walking in the

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school. You're going to be in
an asshold for the rest of the day.

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That's the way you started your day, right, Yeah, And I

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probably was, I bet you.
My teachers were like, put this kid

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on fucking riddling. And so when
the teachers are yelling at and the doctors

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are yelling at because they don't underlaying
well, it seems like you should probably

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be on riddling because everyone's telling them
it was yeah, And at that time,

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they were over diagnosing and they weren't
treating you know who knows over diagnosing,

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and it was really big. I
feel like it was such a popular

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thing to have candidates around and it's
illegal and it's been many medicinal here like

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It's always worked for me. I
use it every day. I smoke it

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every day. Is that your preferred
ways the role joints? I mean absolutely?

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Yeah. I actually smoked one right
before jet fuel crossed with yea,

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wow tasty. Did you guys like
that? That's yeah. So here's the

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old school argainings. You haven't seen
them. What are some of the strains

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you have right now, like on
the market where consumers can go pick it

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up? Like, what are some
of your top vendors where they can go

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and check check out some of your
flowers locations? Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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yeah, absolutely, I said vendors, but yeah locations. Yeah,

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okay, our top so our retail
partners. Um, we're all over the

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state of Michigan. UM Lighten Up
Cannabis flint Um, all Ascend locations,

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all Quality Roots locations, all GLH
locations, Great Lakes Holistics, UM Mood

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Cannabis Jacks and UM Local Roots Landsburg, UM, A lot of mom and

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pop shops. Mom and dad,
you've got lots and lots and lots of

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brothers and sisters. You all look
different. Oh yeah, me and my

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sister look way different. Right,
So just because you have the same mom

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and dad, doesn't mean, you
know, and the phenomena of you know,

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amazing elite genetics is few and farm
between. Like how many Lebron James

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do you got running around the planet? Right, and so exactly there's a

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lot of people on this planet.
There is so um. With that being

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said, I think that there's this, there's these outliers and they're special and

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across the years from you know,
dating all the way back into you know,

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early eighties, probably mid eighties,
there was when it got past you

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know, just early hybridization and you
know when they first were when you started

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seeing these early widows and these early
ogs and these this you know, the

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comes. I mean, they're those
strains were they were selected for um effect

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and not and not THHC percentage THC
percentage. And you can tell that's true.

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You know, that's a great point. I never thought about that,

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the genetic difference, like why they
were going into these genetics versus why they

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are now and like why right was
right? It was how good does it

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taste that? Y? What does
it taste like? What does it feel

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like? You never thought about that. So um strange fies have changed strains

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from the early nineties O. G. Cush's sour diesels, BLUs their hearts.

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Oh god, kem dog, I'd
kill versus. Yeah. Oh that

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we got a Catsu Bubba that we're
gonna be releasing. We're gonna do a

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whole classic retro line. Oh oh
sh yeah, so the classic retro line.

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You also hear that? Do you
want to hear the whole lineup?

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I just hadause button. There was
an applause. No. No, we

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always talk about that, like we
missed these throwbacks strains like finding that new

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cookies, Like we get it,
but like we miss that stuff. You

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know, a poco No we our
Um Olympics and mother was um the a

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ninety two og Cush cut and ninety
two ninety two I was two, we

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were two years old. Um,
it's one of my favorite strains. I've

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had it since two thousand eleven.
I traded a deadhead og for it.

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Um and it was that's like a
legit cut of og Cush. You said,

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right, yeah, oh yeah,
it's like you can tell how old

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it is because how hard it is
to clone. That makes it needs to

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be reinvigorated. It needs to be
tissue cultured, it needs to be brought

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back. Um, I'm just so
I don't have my own tissue culture lab.

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I should be working out. Have
you seen the Athena box stuff?

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I did see the Athena box stuff
and where I was horribly play horribly played

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ruby, but you know what I
was. We saw it at mj Biscom

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this year and we're like, whoa, you know, two grand or twenty

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five hundred is way more affordable than, like you said, a culture lab.

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It's apps, It absolutely is.
I hope that it's as easy as

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they say. But you still got
to think about long term storage and you

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know there's an environment. We have
all those things available, we have the

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space to do it, but um, it's everything takes resources, and right

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now we're really most focused on uh
production, Yeah, of quality flow Well,

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and you said quality, we're talking
about og cush like how was that

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zo Olympics stuff? Like why was
that? It's like my favorite strains.

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So I I love it. I
hope that the people that got those Olympics

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boxes. Um, I hope they
like it. It's a classic OG.

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I bet you everybody's gonna love it. That's like, yeah, you know,

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let us know if you if you
got the OG I mean I guess

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wait it was blind so you don't
know. But if you notice there was

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an OG in the box, I
like that. It was that's good.

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That's the one thing we didn't like
about the High Times Cup that it was

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like, yeah, it's a fair
judgment because you don't know who's who grew

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it, what brandings on it.
Nothing you true flavor and a factor.

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Yeah, should be mean yep.
Yeah, So we competed the OG because

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I mean she's been, um,
my favorite strain for years and years,

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but um, the retro lineup we
have that og. Um, we also

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have the San Fernando Valley cut.
Oh that we're also it's a throwback.

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Man. I used to love that
in like the old Caregiver day. I

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used to get that s f Bog
Yeah man, oh yeah that's fine.

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She's more um, she's been more
classic classic where I feel like my ninety

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two cut is um a little bit
more on the sour side, just a

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she's gas but um more of like
if you know the reserve of Pravada og.

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She has more of that that brightness
to her, whereas not as earthy

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as the classic like like yeah,
yeah, yeah, um, I love

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them both though, I mean Uh, the technically you're standing by your name

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old school organics right now. Retro. The original plan, right, is

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that I was going to try to
bring all these elites. I mean even

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your packaging is pretty retro, like
the logos retro. Like it's a vibe,

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you know what I'm saying. You
guys got a vibe going. We

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always wanted to bring um old elite
cuts that had been kind of like lost

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when you know, all of this
new age hype, she chasing type of

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person like whatever. Not to say
that there's not a thousand amazing new strains

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out right now. Believe me,
we grow those two. We love those

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two. It's just these seem to
be there. Like it's like um,

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like like baseball cards, you know, like having like an old, rare

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baseball car or just has something,
you know, this nostalgic value. And

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uh, you know I used to
look at it as wine, right,

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like older wine gets rare, right, it's rare, like doing me wrong.

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New wines like very tasty, you
know, like I'm not a huge

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wine guy, but like I know
my wines or anything, but that old

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wineing. When you have like an
old whatever bottle, it's like whoa that

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was rare. I haven't had a
ninety two og bubble or cush. You

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know, cush. He's me I
crossed a bunch of my head together.

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But we are smoking. But we
do have a bubba, that's why.

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But that's another one. Okay,
Yeah, what else is to bubakay Um?

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We have Lupa's headband, headband,
let's go. We have the Indiana

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bubble gum. Oh dude, I
don't know what that is, but it

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sounds a good. Um. We
have a white widow cut that we just

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obtained recently that seems extremely promising.
It's exciting. It's what's like legit,

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Like that's like a legit. It's
cut that I've been looking for for a

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long long time. Recently, I
mean it was huge. I've been looking

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for some of the cuts I've had
for ten plus years. Some of them

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I've been looking for for years and
years and years. But it wasn't until

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this business came to me that finally
gave me the ability to finally find some

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of them. Um, you know, and the resources once again. Yeah,

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I love that you're bringing these these
genetics back for a lot of consumers

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that at the times haven't even tried
to cat Sue Bubba or or og Kush.

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That's that's true. That's true because
there's a whole generation of people who

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are like, og, what your
cookies like? First? That's so cool

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that you guys are bring up this
Ruchia line. When does this rutia line

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hit? By chance? So I
got me excited right now. We already

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like we did the first drop of
the og about a month and a half

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ago, but it sold out in
stores extremely fast. So please let us

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know the next time it drops,
Okay, candidate, Like, I know,

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we both want to try it.
Um the next yeah, the next

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The next old school drop we're doing
is UM headband and that will be finished

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six to seven weeks. You know
that mean cure, dried and tested,

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ready for retail, right, So
um, yeah, we're really excited about

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I've never seen a headband on the
commercial market, not a real cup of

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headband. I haven't seen not since
it was like from Michigan and it's pretty

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much coming from California. Like I
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and I don't know I haven't seen
that one. No, no,

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no, I'm familiar with me Night
Risk. He seems to have the real

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like og cush like whatever he's working
with its gas right, yeah, shout

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out the shadow. Yeah yeah,
yeah, absolutely crushes. Um. You

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know, I've seen a couple other
strains that on the market that are you

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know, they're they're they're there,
but they're not like, um, you

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know, the actual original elite cuts. Um, I always love it's hard

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to find. Well, I'm I
do sales for our company too, so

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I'm visiting dispensaries all the time or
um many hats provisionings, and I'm always

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looking to see what's on every shelf. And I'm you know, I'm always

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looking to see if they have,
you know, old cuts, or if

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they or if they even claim to
have old cuts. Normally you just don't

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even see anything labeled blue dream.
You know. It's just it's rare.

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The older the oldest cuts is much
anymore, and not in a long time.

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No, the oldest cuts you'll see
is like an ice cream cake,

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you know. And that's only like, you know, you're kind of right,

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because ever since the cookie, ever
since the cookie thing happened, it's

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like I swear everything and find a
forum cookie on the Oh that's right,

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that's true. I've got swerves pack
and swerves is what the thin mint cut

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came out of? Oh right,
I remember that thing. Realized that right,

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and the thin mint cut is that
was such still is again, I

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can't find that either. I wouldn't
say that's retro, but man, would

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I kill for that? Yeah?
Exactly it. It can't unless you still

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have it from then, or you
know, somehow saved in as one or

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something um on s like something like
your retro line is so huge because we

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do lose these cuts all the time. If I had all the cuts that

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I wish I wouldn't have lost,
it would be oh man, this would

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be I hate to bring up,
like I hate to put salt in the

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wounds here because Candid Dave has something
that he doesn't like talking about, like

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which ones do you? Which ones
have you lost that hurt the most?

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I guess because I hate to bring
it up. But that's Candy Cush.

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Yeah, I can't remember, Oh
my god, tasty as hell. Yeah

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it was. Oh see, I
didn't want to bring up in your eye.

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Man, I remember that Durban Poison
though he had a Durban Poison cut

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that was and had a death star
death star cut. That's right, that

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was a legit cut too, girl
the dust Star before and that's beautiful,

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that's greasy, yeah it was.
That was a strange I got one across.

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Really, it's right, that's right. That's why I think he loved

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it back in the day. It's
beautiful, it's greasy, greasy. You

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don't see that, you ever.
And Death Star either, Yeah, you

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don't see death Star. It still
lives. That's there. It's not one

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of the ones that's like long lost. I'm sure people in Michigan have it.

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And I know it's in Ohio.
Yep, yep, it lived in

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all It'll always be there. That's
one of those things. It's like stable

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to their culture. A man.
I mean the death I don't know what

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else they got, so don't I
mean not talk. They got the dust

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Star, the Dumpster and the lemon
Ge. Lemon GE's from m oh Yeah.

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Some guys down in like like a
Columbus Athens, Ohio area that just

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have been great, great growers for
years and years. And Michigan has always

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traded strains with the Ohio growers,
so we've brought in a lot of Ohio

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strains over the years. Oh shit, I love how well connected you are

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with like every well we can reel
with the community like the real some people

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are just buying off lying like yeah, I mean that's what I do.

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Your genetics seems so important to who
you like as are as a grower.

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It's the most I mean, it's
the one thing that it's out of your

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control but within your control. Right, So if you have the genetics,

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you have them, and you have
a huge advantage because like we said before,

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I mean there's not once it's like
anything in this world, it's hard

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to be the best when there's thousands
and thousands and thousands of and so this

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is what can set you apart is
having better genetics. And I completely I

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didn't think about it industry moving forward, I think your genetics is going to

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make you stand out for a lot
of the cannabis smokers, like people on

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variety, like the old school stuff
the new age, like you got a

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mix of both, like this is
you and we're just getting keep cycling,

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yeah, and that we're never We're
gonna try to never stop and land on

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any one thing and just say this
is what we grow. And I want

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it to be a revolving lineup of
you know, one hundred great elite.

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Well if you only if you always
grew a string, eventually people get sick

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of it, right, you know
you I grow the stuff for me.

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I smoke everything that we grow.
Um. You know, I'm allowed to

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taking a lot of amount as an
employee of the company, and I make

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sure, you know, get to
try everything, and um, you don't

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smoke this one citrus. Yeah,
so they're all good man with my team,

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um is, they have a great
nose for cannabis and they um have

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a They're amazing at helping uh execute
every part of the process. So shout

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out to the team. Yeah,
how big is your total team? Is

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it just you three still? Or
is there no? There's twelve? No,

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No, there's there's three of us
as um. Uh, you know

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at the ownership level. God whoever
picked his jet fuel? I love you

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like this is a duh. There's
yeah, three of us at the ownership

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level, and then we have about
ten employees at the whole still small team

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for a thousand plants and hand watered, hand trimmed, um, hand trimmed

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and well hand watered, that's all. Wow. I mean he does hand

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watering and it's like seventy plants and
He's like, Man, I'm watering all

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day a thousand plants. That's twenty
times the kind we get into the girl

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LEDs HBS. We was both okay
in check the board, of course,

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so we want to we want to. There's obvious reasons um to have LEDs,

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to cut costs, to be more
efficient, to be more green.

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You know, you don't want to
leave a massive footprint. But I believe

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that there's no question in my mind
that high pressure sodium um when all the

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other parameters are right, when the
room is perfect, in your maxim um,

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your ppms of CO two, when
everything is going perfect and optimal grow

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environments like HPS to w HPS puts
out um an intensity that has you just

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can't compare to. And it's the
it's the only way I can get the

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density and the full roof of the
plant. Right. I've tried to grow

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under just LEDs. I mean it's
still don't get me wrong. When you

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see checkerboard, you mean checkerboard style
like h every other h hs hs L.

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But I just I wouldn't want to
assume. But that's really cool that

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you actually blending the light. That's
more of a blend. Oh yeah,

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Yeah, we're gonna roll up some
centris, dude. And that's the thing.

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Every every bag you've dropped here with
in front of us, smell is

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very unique, you know, and
I really want to say, like you

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really your genetics can show looks so
important beautiful. You know, you don't

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put on a candy cane. Let's
show the jet field one of the kids.

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If I wish I'll could smell that
one. This one is I could

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live in this bag. Soil really
brings out the full characteristics. UM.

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I personally love. I love the
checkerboard for the lights soil you grow at

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soil absolutely so we do a checkerboard
um all Givita okay, nineteen thirty LEDs

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um obvious you know for the UM
standard thousand to a ended hps for the

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UM. The other those are the
bangers, and then you get the lads

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for the spectrum. And when you
have that UM, your light's nice and

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high up off your canopy. You
get a nice spread um of spectrum.

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And so every plant you know gets
I wouldn't say even I do see a

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little bit of shift and swing from
underneath the LED. You I mean you

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can see you'll even see different and
uptake. Right, I'll not just color

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of leaves and buds or density,
but I'll actually, um, they'll eat

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at different rates. Um makes sense. Yeah, it's uh, every plant's

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just a little different, right,
I mean, yeah, well under each

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light they act a little different.
But we're really trying to get them to

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get that mixture of spectrum so that
we can see the full growth potential,

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density, but still the high turpin
production and some of the colors that LEDs

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bring out. Absolutely. Yeah,
yeah, I mean that's that is that's

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a very point. Like I even
think about bag of pep kind of from

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the lights, like absolutely, it's
huge. I mean, dud which one?

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This doesn't check every box. It's
crazy, even though like five years

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ago we were smoking brick. We
know, years ago, you know,

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but just like the dense, the
the the look on this one too,

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the um what is this theato?
Yeah, man, the tricombs are crazy

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on this. Yeah, it's coated
and I cracked open the citrus smell of

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the flower smell pops so much after
you grind up the button, you crack

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it down in the grinder and open, the aroma just pops on these.

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Yeah, And like you know,
when you say it all. We're always

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talking about an ensemble or entourage effect, right because like people always so you

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know, t HC percentage percentage,
TC percentage. It seems like you focus

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on multiple things like your turpenes and
like that balance. So because you're trying

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to make that like that average,
is there anything that you specifically like like

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a what level of TCHC your turpeenes
that you like aim to strive for?

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Actually, is anyone hit always?
What was the one we talked before the

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episode two? I'm always trying to
hit as high as turpine percentages and really

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highest percentages I can across the board
everything. You know, UM, big

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numbers always impress people. And UM, when you seeing really high UM turpene

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content, UM, it's normally a
pretty good indicator of the quality of products.

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UM. You know when you're hitting
over three three and a halfs even

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into the fours, UM, you
know you're getting into some some really quality

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products. You know, as as
long as they finished that, you know,

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finished it out without going into the
over nutrient like UM overfed end of

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things where they made it chunky.
So you know, if they didn't never

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overfed it. You can hit high
turd beans and still have chunky pot Yeah.

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Yeah, you know that everything has
to work, you know, you

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gotta there's so many factors, like
the ninety one gun Fia super Fire.

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It's part of the retro line um
definitely. I'm excited. We've grown the

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ninety one gun Fia and we've released
it multiple times around the state of Michigan.

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But we hadn't really marketed uh um
Um as a retro line or anything.

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Strains that I wanted to show people
want to bring out to the community.

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You don't see you don't see these
strains in the market. It's all

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new age, new age trains.
People are trying to find that new strain

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that's going to take off like runs
some or take off like that Forum cut.

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Like I think right now we do. You have a lot of exotic

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like what's genetics though they're they're what's
available, right the new strength of what's

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available makes sense, finds hard to
find. We'll find a Bubba cush right

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right, Yeah, yeah, go
find a master cush. Oh my god,

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remember that Sindey ninety nine, or
a real cut of sweet Tooth,

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or a real cut some skunk.
Oh, some real skunk scount number one.

405
00:31:26.480 --> 00:31:33.119
That's one I've been I've been chasing
for years and lost for words.

406
00:31:33.200 --> 00:31:40.440
I have not seen anything, um
anywhere close to what I've considered the elite

407
00:31:40.480 --> 00:31:44.839
cuts of the early skunks. Nothing
even close to. Damn man, that's

408
00:31:44.839 --> 00:31:48.319
one of the ones that I keep
looking. You guys put in, you

409
00:31:48.400 --> 00:31:51.640
know, keep asking everybody that comes
on this show, just keep saying that

410
00:31:52.039 --> 00:31:55.720
no one's got a skunk. Maybe
eventually one day somebody'd be like, there

411
00:31:55.799 --> 00:31:57.279
she is, and you'll be like, and then you guys call them.

412
00:32:00.799 --> 00:32:07.960
I was like, we hit up
Jason I Media. Yeah, I'd be

413
00:32:07.480 --> 00:32:12.279
I'd be so ecstatic. So that's
that's one of the ones. We're both

414
00:32:12.319 --> 00:32:14.599
you would leave your mind's like a
skunk cut. That's what I was gonna

415
00:32:14.599 --> 00:32:19.119
ask as well. I don't see
like anything that's skunk. I remember loving

416
00:32:19.200 --> 00:32:22.920
Bubba Cush and I don't remember what
it tastes like. I just remembered loving

417
00:32:22.000 --> 00:32:27.880
it and it's been so long.
Chocolate, Earthen coffee, yeah, that's

418
00:32:28.319 --> 00:32:31.640
in gas. It's still all of
those. It's a good mixture. Amazing.

419
00:32:31.839 --> 00:32:36.640
Yeah, if that, if I
had to put it, and she

420
00:32:36.759 --> 00:32:40.319
grows so identifiable, she grows a
very into co looking the huge fat,

421
00:32:40.480 --> 00:32:45.519
dark green like jungle looking leaves.
She's very identifiable plant. And when you

422
00:32:45.799 --> 00:32:49.559
I love the way you talk about
your plants. When we bring the bubba

423
00:32:49.920 --> 00:32:52.640
back um, which is coming back
real, I will have the first drop

424
00:32:52.720 --> 00:32:57.319
of bubba in probably two months.
As soon as she's down, I'll bring

425
00:32:57.400 --> 00:33:00.240
it here and you'll try it and
be like, yeah, have you everyone

426
00:33:00.759 --> 00:33:07.759
flash, I remember we're down for
growth facilities like yours, especially these cuts,

427
00:33:07.839 --> 00:33:14.039
Like oh my god, I've never
seen Dave los his mind right,

428
00:33:14.119 --> 00:33:15.839
yeah, absolutly yeah, yeah,
oh yeah, we do. We love

429
00:33:15.920 --> 00:33:19.039
that type of stuff. No,
I just I just was so curious see

430
00:33:19.039 --> 00:33:21.480
your grow because the way you talk
about your plants, it's just you guys

431
00:33:21.480 --> 00:33:23.599
can see that, like there's a
passion and care and love and your grow

432
00:33:23.920 --> 00:33:27.319
and you know, we've had growers
on here. I'm not knocking any other

433
00:33:27.359 --> 00:33:30.039
person who's ever grown on here,
but our talking. But it's just the

434
00:33:30.079 --> 00:33:31.640
way you speak about your plants,
the way you describe them is like it

435
00:33:31.720 --> 00:33:36.599
shows how much you've been how long
you've been cultivating. In my eyes,

436
00:33:37.640 --> 00:33:45.799
I love weed and branding there,
no, but no, no, for

437
00:33:45.920 --> 00:33:50.000
real, no, I love it
though. It's so true though it's it

438
00:33:50.119 --> 00:33:53.640
speaks so much, spoke speaks so
true. Thank you. Um. We

439
00:33:53.839 --> 00:34:00.599
really everybody at old Scoorganics loves weed
just like I do. I'm shadow the

440
00:34:00.640 --> 00:34:05.920
whole team. Yeah, I takes
a team, you know. We everybody

441
00:34:06.000 --> 00:34:10.719
there knows good weed. Everybody there
loves good weed. Everybody there does everything

442
00:34:10.800 --> 00:34:15.519
they can to make sure that Old
School Organics is always producing good weed.

443
00:34:15.000 --> 00:34:21.679
And they've Yeah, it's it's been
a great time. Um. Of course,

444
00:34:21.920 --> 00:34:25.719
any startup with you know, going
into business with your friends and your

445
00:34:25.840 --> 00:34:30.760
family and really everybody that works for
us as friends and family, there is

446
00:34:30.800 --> 00:34:36.159
not an uphill battle. Some days
there's not a single person at our facility

447
00:34:36.320 --> 00:34:38.400
that is not a friend or family
member. See, that's so cool.

448
00:34:38.440 --> 00:34:42.800
Like family, full whole family team. For we all knew each other before,

449
00:34:42.960 --> 00:34:45.400
not all of us knew each and
every member before, but we were

450
00:34:45.400 --> 00:34:50.280
all connected within life. Someone knew
someone of someone you know. Okay,

451
00:34:51.159 --> 00:34:55.760
that's pretty that's pretty cool. Family
feel very little turnover, all the same

452
00:34:55.840 --> 00:35:00.000
people that pretty much all the same
people we started. That's that's huge.

453
00:35:00.559 --> 00:35:04.239
You guys are flower You just do
you guys do pre roles? Is there

454
00:35:04.280 --> 00:35:07.440
any edibles or concentrates of yours that
people can try your product in as well

455
00:35:07.480 --> 00:35:13.800
too. Um, we work with
some processors that make collabse Yeah, we

456
00:35:13.920 --> 00:35:20.320
do collapse and then. Um,
we also have a live resin pen that

457
00:35:21.199 --> 00:35:27.440
we sell. We have a processor
our friends Green Co. Shout out fire

458
00:35:27.480 --> 00:35:31.000
and nice. Um, that sound
familiar. They have been a fire and

459
00:35:31.079 --> 00:35:34.639
nice. That sounds super familiar.
They've been in the game as long as

460
00:35:34.719 --> 00:35:37.800
I Is that a topical? No, they do make topicals. Okay,

461
00:35:37.960 --> 00:35:39.880
I've seen the topical all right.
I don't know. They make a lot

462
00:35:39.960 --> 00:35:44.440
of stuff and they have from the
early caregiver days. Maybe that's why,

463
00:35:44.480 --> 00:35:46.360
because I've seen it, I've had
it for some reason, Like that's why

464
00:35:46.400 --> 00:35:47.880
I was like when you said fire
and nice, I'm like, man,

465
00:35:47.920 --> 00:35:51.280
I haven't seen that in a minute, but you spark something there. Okay,

466
00:35:51.320 --> 00:35:55.239
Well, shout out that's cool.
Yep. They're licensed facility now.

467
00:35:55.440 --> 00:36:00.559
They have grow in processing out in
Hastening Smiths. Again, they do excellent

468
00:36:00.639 --> 00:36:07.320
work. M They have been able
to capture the real essence of all of

469
00:36:07.360 --> 00:36:13.000
our strains and get it into a
disposable live bres and car. I wish

470
00:36:13.039 --> 00:36:15.400
I would have brought some of those
for you today, but at this exact

471
00:36:15.559 --> 00:36:19.320
moment, we are sold out of
them. It's not a bad problem to

472
00:36:19.400 --> 00:36:23.039
have. There's other there's worse problems
to have. But we have more coming

473
00:36:23.159 --> 00:36:27.159
very soon, and we have some
more new flavors that we've added to the

474
00:36:27.280 --> 00:36:32.239
lineup in live bres and flavors.
We have our our signature strain, sugar

475
00:36:32.280 --> 00:36:37.440
Cones. It was a strain that
we've just got a lot of really great

476
00:36:37.519 --> 00:36:42.599
feedback on and a lot of consumer
demand for us, So we grew a

477
00:36:42.679 --> 00:36:46.119
lot of it in the last year, but we've taken a break from it

478
00:36:46.280 --> 00:36:52.159
at the moment and we won't be
re releasing any sugar cones until probably Midsummer.

479
00:36:52.719 --> 00:36:55.760
People are going to get it's a
very good smell. What is the

480
00:36:55.840 --> 00:36:59.679
GenEx on this? Because it reminds
me of like Grammar sugar cookies, you

481
00:36:59.760 --> 00:37:04.199
know, I mean a lot of
forty five um, a lot of it's

482
00:37:04.199 --> 00:37:07.679
a gelatto forty five times ice cream
cake. Okay, I can smell the

483
00:37:07.719 --> 00:37:10.000
cake, That's what it was.
There's such a sweetness to that, and

484
00:37:10.119 --> 00:37:15.639
it's like it really just so sweet, very good stuff. Man, Citrus

485
00:37:15.760 --> 00:37:21.599
is tasty. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. That that's

486
00:37:21.719 --> 00:37:29.840
UM. So the citrus is sense
sense. So citrus astension is a strain.

487
00:37:29.960 --> 00:37:30.840
Yeah, I know, it's a
hard it's a little bit hard to

488
00:37:30.880 --> 00:37:37.719
say. Their joint in song to
us. We were worked with Send Cannabis

489
00:37:37.760 --> 00:37:44.840
on this one. UM. We
were given UH some seed from a employee

490
00:37:45.159 --> 00:37:51.840
at Ascend and UM there was sort
of some pretty good history between UM,

491
00:37:52.320 --> 00:37:58.719
him and I and UH friendship and
growing together and trading grow advice and genetics

492
00:37:58.840 --> 00:38:05.719
for years and years and another one
of the managers of one of the Ascend

493
00:38:05.800 --> 00:38:13.639
stores, UM was also very into
the idea of doing a collaboration with us

494
00:38:13.719 --> 00:38:16.840
so that we could have, you
know, a unique strain that would only

495
00:38:16.920 --> 00:38:27.079
be UM at a Sun stores.
It's very citrus turf. I would say,

496
00:38:27.320 --> 00:38:32.039
oh yeah, oh yeah yeah,
greape fruit to orange with UM hints

497
00:38:32.119 --> 00:38:39.639
of skunk and pine. Definitely some
great that it's tinier as it goes.

498
00:38:39.960 --> 00:38:47.400
And I've noticed that this specific pheno
likes to change as you like. The

499
00:38:47.519 --> 00:38:51.920
beginning of the dubie doesn't taste anything
like the end of the dubie. It's

500
00:38:52.000 --> 00:38:54.639
kind of one of those like varies
a little bit. Well, I mean

501
00:38:54.679 --> 00:39:00.559
that makes sense because when it resonates, maybe it changes like the really must

502
00:39:00.639 --> 00:39:05.760
be moving. Uh what, it
has a nice oil drift over. Do

503
00:39:05.840 --> 00:39:07.880
you see what I'm saying that at
first it kind of tastes like an orange

504
00:39:07.960 --> 00:39:09.480
chapstick, and now it's starting to
taste like, well, you're right though,

505
00:39:09.519 --> 00:39:13.800
the great the orange grapefruit. The
smell is a little bit more on

506
00:39:13.800 --> 00:39:15.840
the piney side right now. But
yeah, it starts off with very nice

507
00:39:15.840 --> 00:39:20.079
citrus tasting. But you're dead on
with the smell though, that grapey grape

508
00:39:20.119 --> 00:39:22.920
fruit skunk you're skunk type of vibe. Yeah, it's nice, man,

509
00:39:23.480 --> 00:39:28.519
man, I just dead Yeah,
it'll see the love in your planets.

510
00:39:28.599 --> 00:39:34.159
It'll be at it all ascends stores. Hopefully they'll have it on the shelves

511
00:39:34.280 --> 00:39:37.880
buy four twenty um, we're I
know that there. They'll probably try their

512
00:39:37.920 --> 00:39:40.559
best. I know that I'll get
it over to them as soon as possible.

513
00:39:40.679 --> 00:39:45.760
But um, we were sort of
trying to beat the clock on this

514
00:39:45.880 --> 00:39:49.760
one for twenties. If now you're
watching it now that maybe it should be

515
00:39:49.760 --> 00:39:52.840
out now, so I'll check it
out the local Sun Cannabis to get up

516
00:39:52.920 --> 00:39:59.199
on many. You know, you'd
be just like hanging out trying to grow

517
00:39:59.239 --> 00:40:00.639
some weed, and then and four
twenty and I was like, where's the

518
00:40:00.679 --> 00:40:06.920
weed? And You're like, oh
shit, she need like another month.

519
00:40:07.039 --> 00:40:12.760
I thought it was can we postpone
four twenty this year because I got some

520
00:40:12.960 --> 00:40:15.559
fire? It's so close. I
show up to the four twenty party with

521
00:40:15.679 --> 00:40:20.119
some little bit wet weed, and
I'm always like, fuck, it still

522
00:40:20.159 --> 00:40:22.719
smokes, though you know you said
that's all it's fresh though it's fresh.

523
00:40:22.760 --> 00:40:30.039
It's fresh. It's fresh. No, I promise nobody will. It's such

524
00:40:30.039 --> 00:40:31.840
a grower thing, right, there's
like dang, I want to full flex

525
00:40:31.960 --> 00:40:36.760
you guys or nobody. Nobody will
get fresh wet weed for four twenty.

526
00:40:36.800 --> 00:40:40.280
I promise, yeah, everybody will. It'll be a nice cure on it.

527
00:40:42.039 --> 00:40:46.559
Um. The testing process. Um, everything is just stretched out compared

528
00:40:46.559 --> 00:40:50.599
to what it used to be like
when I grew you know, caregiver.

529
00:40:51.239 --> 00:40:55.760
Um. Everything takes me longer,
and it's almost like big. It's it's

530
00:40:55.880 --> 00:41:00.000
nice because it forces you to cure
longer. You know, every you're waiting,

531
00:41:00.599 --> 00:41:04.480
everything is you're always waiting for this
so that you can do this,

532
00:41:04.639 --> 00:41:07.280
so that you can do this,
and it ends up creating more time of

533
00:41:07.360 --> 00:41:10.400
things just sort of sitting in place, which forces us to put a nice

534
00:41:10.480 --> 00:41:15.880
like two to three week cure on
almost everything. And that's really that sweet

535
00:41:15.880 --> 00:41:20.119
spook. Some strains take longer to
cure than two to three weeks to get

536
00:41:20.159 --> 00:41:23.760
a really beauty, perfect proper cure, but I like most of the gassy

537
00:41:23.880 --> 00:41:28.760
strains or really turned forward strains,
you can get a pretty nice cure pretty

538
00:41:28.840 --> 00:41:34.480
quick. Um, what we're smoking
right now is right at the like about

539
00:41:34.519 --> 00:41:40.679
the three week mark. Okay,
yeah, well there yeah, um yeah,

540
00:41:40.760 --> 00:41:45.440
yeah, no, I love it. Yeah yeah, just baked,

541
00:41:45.519 --> 00:41:51.719
yeah no, just baked. Yeah, yeah, for sure. On the

542
00:41:51.840 --> 00:42:00.840
show, I we don't reusually count. We just kind of good flavors.

543
00:42:00.960 --> 00:42:04.039
We want to trium and then like
dude, I you know, it's like

544
00:42:04.199 --> 00:42:07.800
the jet fuel. I had to
I had to try that immediately. Guy.

545
00:42:07.960 --> 00:42:09.280
So it's like you also, we
just want to be smoking, you

546
00:42:09.320 --> 00:42:13.079
know what I mean, Like when
we like the bud though, we smoke

547
00:42:13.119 --> 00:42:17.440
and like like we notice it too
on this Zebra piss too though. That's

548
00:42:17.480 --> 00:42:22.159
That's the one thing I remember very
distinctly, is like it's I know,

549
00:42:22.280 --> 00:42:24.480
it's not like the biggest of deals, but like once you get through,

550
00:42:24.559 --> 00:42:27.679
like oh wow, it smells good, it looks good. All that thing.

551
00:42:27.960 --> 00:42:31.679
We're like the ash and your ash
was clean and we were like and

552
00:42:31.800 --> 00:42:35.840
it's still clean and like and that's
like I don't know if it's the flush

553
00:42:35.920 --> 00:42:37.920
or whatever, but so is his. And like that's one of those one

554
00:42:37.000 --> 00:42:39.960
things that that's why when we we
really want to have you on because it's

555
00:42:39.960 --> 00:42:44.039
like really really soft, but like
we can stand by. It's good toft

556
00:42:44.079 --> 00:42:49.760
man. Even so when you say
flush, um, yeah, there is

557
00:42:50.440 --> 00:42:57.079
even organic umly grown flower still needs
what you would call a fly. It's

558
00:42:57.119 --> 00:42:59.039
not really a flush, and I'm
just like pouring, like you know,

559
00:43:00.000 --> 00:43:01.000
it's some buggets of well, you
know, you're not flooding out the root

560
00:43:01.079 --> 00:43:05.800
zone. You're still giving it the
same amount the normal feed water, but

561
00:43:05.920 --> 00:43:12.360
you're just not putting any at any
sort of nutrient. You're and we plan

562
00:43:12.960 --> 00:43:19.519
our soil to the longevity and to
be able to kind of you want it

563
00:43:19.559 --> 00:43:22.280
to fade, right, You want
the plant to fade. You want it

564
00:43:22.320 --> 00:43:24.559
to look like it's fall. You
want it to look like it's exhausted all

565
00:43:24.599 --> 00:43:30.840
of its resources and it's ready to
drop seed and move on with its you

566
00:43:30.920 --> 00:43:35.480
know, into the afterlife. Right, and then next year they will do

567
00:43:35.559 --> 00:43:40.280
the thing from seeds, right.
So, Um, that's a natural process

568
00:43:40.480 --> 00:43:45.679
of finishing up and eating everything and
getting rid of all those storage sugars so

569
00:43:45.880 --> 00:43:51.320
that you don't end up with black, chunky smoke and it's harder to pull

570
00:43:51.400 --> 00:43:53.880
through. Yeah, it's just harder
to smoke it. You don't want to

571
00:43:53.880 --> 00:43:59.199
sound like a drama it came or
whatever, but it makes it easier.

572
00:44:00.880 --> 00:44:07.199
Organics make it a bit easier for
us to control the ash because we can

573
00:44:07.679 --> 00:44:12.679
put a set amount of food in
there that we know is not enough for

574
00:44:12.800 --> 00:44:15.559
it to live all the way to
the end, and then we just you

575
00:44:16.320 --> 00:44:24.559
just start dialing it back, essentially
the secret. Oh okay, this is

576
00:44:24.599 --> 00:44:29.760
great information for anny grower. Um. No, you supplement with organic nutrient

577
00:44:29.960 --> 00:44:32.360
right first? You you know that
you don't have enough organic soil. We

578
00:44:32.480 --> 00:44:37.920
create our own organic soil anyway.
Yeah, we have our own dum mix.

579
00:44:38.199 --> 00:44:43.000
Yeah, we have our own mix
that we've created over years of cultivation.

580
00:44:43.159 --> 00:44:45.440
And not the same mix works for
every strain UM, so we have

581
00:44:45.599 --> 00:44:51.760
to tune in different mixes for different
different needs of Yeah, there's some sense

582
00:44:52.079 --> 00:44:57.840
just very hungry, and some strains
don't want anything or they want very specific

583
00:44:58.000 --> 00:45:01.679
something and not any of anything something
else, right, and so um,

584
00:45:02.840 --> 00:45:07.679
not all strains like the same crazy
you customize your soil per plants, strains

585
00:45:07.800 --> 00:45:13.760
like the same amount of like the
same temperature. I mean, so just

586
00:45:14.519 --> 00:45:19.000
and it's not. Yeah, it
probably does go down to like where the

587
00:45:19.159 --> 00:45:22.280
genetics that are being displayed, like, um, where they came from in

588
00:45:22.320 --> 00:45:27.440
the world. Right, But you
know it's hybrid hybridized so far now that

589
00:45:27.559 --> 00:45:31.480
yeah, you got your strains from
all around the world mixed into a lot

590
00:45:31.559 --> 00:45:37.360
of this this cannabis. So you
could see things pop up just super random.

591
00:45:37.480 --> 00:45:40.360
Now it's like how us you know, like in America, you know,

592
00:45:40.400 --> 00:45:44.920
it's it's the melting pot is So
now you know, I've got you

593
00:45:45.039 --> 00:45:53.360
know, lots of different backgrounds um
in my heritage. So I've you know,

594
00:45:53.559 --> 00:45:58.320
popped out with showing lots of traits
of lots of different you know,

595
00:45:58.559 --> 00:46:01.679
of my backgrounds. And that's what
you see now. So it's really unpredictable.

596
00:46:01.719 --> 00:46:07.480
That's a good metaphor for hybridization.
It's fascinating. It's really unpredictable.

597
00:46:07.599 --> 00:46:15.000
So you're gonna get some plants that
just love to live and they're just so

598
00:46:15.320 --> 00:46:20.719
they're just they love you. And
you have some plants that it's like like

599
00:46:20.840 --> 00:46:24.320
cats, you know what I mean, And you're like, come on,

600
00:46:24.480 --> 00:46:30.119
I still want to still gotta keep
you alive. Still gotta keep you alive,

601
00:46:32.519 --> 00:46:38.079
right, you know. But you
know you can eventually, for the

602
00:46:38.159 --> 00:46:42.599
most part, figure most of them
out, all of them, Like you

603
00:46:42.719 --> 00:46:45.599
know, you play with them a
few times, you'll realize, oh,

604
00:46:45.800 --> 00:46:51.280
this is showing me this and I've
seen this before. And you know,

605
00:46:51.480 --> 00:46:53.480
it takes them R and D,
you know, yeah, at least a

606
00:46:53.559 --> 00:46:57.960
couple two runs, three runs through. Yeah, yeah, first bring us

607
00:46:58.079 --> 00:47:02.079
a new pheno of something. Um. Sometimes I mean, when they're easy,

608
00:47:02.880 --> 00:47:06.719
then they just go for you,
right. Yeah. But some of

609
00:47:06.800 --> 00:47:09.400
these, like the older strains,
can be some of the more challenging strains.

610
00:47:09.719 --> 00:47:15.239
UM. Early og cushes are very
difficult. I mean, depending on

611
00:47:15.360 --> 00:47:17.280
the cut, they can be very
difficult to grow and very difficult to clone.

612
00:47:19.440 --> 00:47:22.519
The old old cuts can sometimes take
a long time to rout, and

613
00:47:23.480 --> 00:47:29.320
you know, sometimes that's one of
the reasons why a lot of these old

614
00:47:29.360 --> 00:47:34.119
genetics were lost was because they got
so difficult to root over time of being

615
00:47:34.199 --> 00:47:37.800
cloned over and over and over and
over again. I'm not saying there's a

616
00:47:37.800 --> 00:47:44.199
genetic drift, but I'm saying that
plants pick up disease or I meantimes they

617
00:47:44.280 --> 00:47:50.639
get a little something happens over time. Unless this og cush always was just

618
00:47:50.760 --> 00:47:54.679
a bit, you know, but
I feel like it, I mean,

619
00:47:54.760 --> 00:47:59.920
it makes sense feel like it's gotten
worse over time. Not that the genes

620
00:48:00.079 --> 00:48:02.440
have. I'm not saying that it's
like changed, you know, at the

621
00:48:04.000 --> 00:48:09.199
at the genetic level, but maybe
um over time it's been exposed to things

622
00:48:09.480 --> 00:48:14.800
that it's you know, suffered from. It's like, yeah, you're making

623
00:48:14.840 --> 00:48:19.159
it almost just weaker of a plan
just in general, the cellular age of

624
00:48:19.280 --> 00:48:22.000
the plan. You know, this
is like a limb that's just been growing,

625
00:48:22.280 --> 00:48:27.400
you know, since the early nineties. It's never been reseated. You

626
00:48:27.519 --> 00:48:31.920
know, it's just still the same
cellular tissue. Just keep like you know,

627
00:48:31.960 --> 00:48:36.519
the branch keeps growing. That's all
it is. It's this the growing

628
00:48:36.559 --> 00:48:39.320
tip just keeps going. You just
keep removing the behind you see, like

629
00:48:39.360 --> 00:48:44.880
the langoliers Stephen King. No,
but that makes no, no, no,

630
00:48:45.159 --> 00:48:47.239
that makes I like the picture.
And then I mean, maybe it's

631
00:48:47.280 --> 00:48:52.039
not the genetic level that changes,
but just over time I mean things get

632
00:48:52.079 --> 00:48:54.559
weaker, right, get it aging. It's it's fascinating because it's it's almost

633
00:48:54.599 --> 00:48:59.440
like keeping a tree that lived for
hundreds of hundreds of hundreds of years,

634
00:48:59.559 --> 00:49:02.280
but you it didn't because not like
not like visually like you do like a

635
00:49:02.320 --> 00:49:07.039
redwood in like the California right like
that is one hundreds of front spears.

636
00:49:07.280 --> 00:49:09.280
I don't know how you're blowing my
mind. I never thought about a real

637
00:49:09.400 --> 00:49:15.000
longevity because like, I know that
cannabis bond's eyes exist, but I don't

638
00:49:15.079 --> 00:49:20.079
know what what's the oldest cannabis plant
Google, We're gonna start with, Oh,

639
00:49:20.079 --> 00:49:22.239
well that stuff like that. Well, I used to do this cannabis

640
00:49:22.280 --> 00:49:27.599
plant living there there there one somewhere
that somebody just has preserved. It's like

641
00:49:27.679 --> 00:49:31.840
in a glass dome living I don't
know years old, swing in it because

642
00:49:31.880 --> 00:49:36.039
it's so big. It looks like
a live oak tree, like like southern

643
00:49:36.119 --> 00:49:39.880
Alabama. Right, he's looking it
up right now, there's kids playing and

644
00:49:40.760 --> 00:49:45.039
canlan no see they said that one. They're said that there's a twenty four

645
00:49:45.400 --> 00:49:52.280
hundreds of twenty eight hundred year old
cannabis plant remains in a tomb in Jigilely

646
00:49:52.840 --> 00:49:58.320
of Too Torpin of northwest China.
Yeah, they keep it going. I

647
00:49:58.360 --> 00:50:00.239
don't know, I don't know about
it. Sounds like it's almost just like

648
00:50:00.360 --> 00:50:02.960
in a tomb. I don't know
if it's a good growing anyways. But

649
00:50:04.039 --> 00:50:06.280
either way, you know, it's
a very fascinating point because like that is

650
00:50:06.440 --> 00:50:08.800
pessentially what cloning is is you're just
keeping a plant alive longer. And I've

651
00:50:08.920 --> 00:50:13.679
never thought of that because I mean
ever mothers, because then you see the

652
00:50:13.760 --> 00:50:16.400
mother get older, you're bigger.
Whatever. Cloning is just a term that

653
00:50:16.760 --> 00:50:23.920
we've picked up and you know,
adapted and thrown to like our gardening.

654
00:50:24.559 --> 00:50:30.000
All we we're doing is telling a
branch to hormonally produce roots in a spot

655
00:50:30.320 --> 00:50:35.639
so it's convenient for us to keep
this plant alive, so we can cut

656
00:50:35.719 --> 00:50:39.639
it and remove it from the plant
and then tell the end of the stem

657
00:50:39.920 --> 00:50:44.079
to produce roots in that spot and
bam, and we just keep rolling.

658
00:50:44.199 --> 00:50:46.599
Really that's if you think about it, it's just the continuation of one of

659
00:50:46.639 --> 00:50:51.239
the growing tips, and you're just
keeping that growing tip alive for years and

660
00:50:51.320 --> 00:50:55.559
years. It's almost like a perpetual
stew from like the you know, sixteen

661
00:50:55.679 --> 00:51:00.800
hundreds you know they could keep a
stew going rolling for like twenty years.

662
00:51:00.880 --> 00:51:02.920
That that's just how they really did
this, And no kind of makes sense.

663
00:51:04.000 --> 00:51:06.360
You were seen this, No,
the brewer, the breweries, you're

664
00:51:06.440 --> 00:51:09.360
brewing the soup, perpetual stew.
They would eat of it, and like,

665
00:51:09.519 --> 00:51:14.840
you know, you're probably pretty poor
and you as long as you kept

666
00:51:14.880 --> 00:51:16.840
the stew at like one hundred and
sixty degrees, you could eat off of

667
00:51:16.920 --> 00:51:21.760
it um. So you would just
keep adding to it and keep adding to

668
00:51:22.360 --> 00:51:24.559
Oh. I thought you were like
kind of like like some type of like

669
00:51:24.679 --> 00:51:29.159
metaphor or like old like reference like
that. I was like, damn,

670
00:51:29.800 --> 00:51:34.480
literally, okay, that's the same
same way. One hundred and sixty degrees.

671
00:51:34.559 --> 00:51:37.719
That would kill off any bad bacteria
and you could just keep this stew

672
00:51:37.760 --> 00:51:40.320
pot rolling for years and years,
right because there was no way to preserve.

673
00:51:40.519 --> 00:51:45.320
There was no like fridge back,
easier to just go and if you

674
00:51:45.440 --> 00:51:50.679
kept it at one sixty everything would
slow cook. It probably tasted pretty weird,

675
00:51:50.840 --> 00:51:54.199
but good enough. And it's right, it was food. Things were

676
00:51:54.239 --> 00:51:58.960
different, this food pot of food
to always build eat. We didn't have

677
00:51:59.000 --> 00:52:01.679
a fridge, right, fer so
that makes sense. Yeah, and that

678
00:52:02.800 --> 00:52:07.199
I just never looked at cannabis like
the ericle. Like again I say cloning,

679
00:52:07.280 --> 00:52:12.320
but just like the aging of cannabis
and the aging of a specific genetic.

680
00:52:12.840 --> 00:52:15.039
Yeah, I'm not just like a
strain. I'm sure in the mountains

681
00:52:15.079 --> 00:52:21.599
of Nepal there's like this man and
he's got, you know, this strain

682
00:52:21.679 --> 00:52:23.920
that was passed down from from family, you know. Yeah, yeah,

683
00:52:24.039 --> 00:52:30.960
I'm sure. I'm just familiar with
you know, I've never traveled outside of

684
00:52:30.960 --> 00:52:34.079
the US except for New Mexico.
I would love to go and travel the

685
00:52:34.119 --> 00:52:38.320
world and do like the whole strain
hunters thing, and you know, it

686
00:52:38.440 --> 00:52:42.519
would it would be enlightening and it
would be a lot of fun. But

687
00:52:42.840 --> 00:52:45.599
yeah, I would like to learn
more about the history of some of this

688
00:52:45.800 --> 00:52:50.360
stuff because I feel like I get
into like a situation like this and I'm

689
00:52:50.400 --> 00:52:52.679
like, I should know more about
it. But it's crazy because I'm listening

690
00:52:52.719 --> 00:52:54.400
to you and I feel like you
know so much, like because you're like,

691
00:52:54.440 --> 00:52:57.840
oh, well I did I didn't
bring up a strain and you're like,

692
00:52:57.880 --> 00:52:59.880
oh, it grows like this and
it looks like this. I'm a

693
00:53:00.000 --> 00:53:02.480
you can see it in your eyes
that you're seeing it, and like that's

694
00:53:02.719 --> 00:53:05.960
so for someone like me, I
can't I remember loving it, but I

695
00:53:06.000 --> 00:53:07.480
can't remember what it tastes like,
but you like literally know what it grows

696
00:53:07.519 --> 00:53:10.440
like. So like I guess it's
all relative, right, Like there is

697
00:53:10.519 --> 00:53:15.679
some guru out there that may you
know, but like it's like talking about

698
00:53:15.760 --> 00:53:17.719
food. If you were like talking
like somebody was like, oh yeah,

699
00:53:17.840 --> 00:53:21.480
like a Hamburger, you'd be like
you're thinking like, oh yeah, hamburger.

700
00:53:21.519 --> 00:53:24.400
And you see Hamburger right yeah,
where they once you've been in contact.

701
00:53:24.639 --> 00:53:30.199
But that's all we do is grow
and right right right, you see

702
00:53:30.239 --> 00:53:31.960
them all the time every day,
and you know, like you come really

703
00:53:32.599 --> 00:53:38.679
each plant comes very characteristics and then
you know, um, Mikey and Derek

704
00:53:38.960 --> 00:53:45.039
are my two growers, shout out, yeah, they're a ma and like,

705
00:53:45.559 --> 00:53:47.880
well, we'll see each other and
be like you see the plat you

706
00:53:47.960 --> 00:53:52.079
see the platinum. She's showing some
of the same traits that a lot of

707
00:53:52.079 --> 00:53:54.320
forty five had done. And you
know, and you'll ever all in tune

708
00:53:54.360 --> 00:53:58.400
with it like that, and it
makes it so much easier for us to

709
00:53:59.199 --> 00:54:02.800
um put out quality product if we
all are understanding it to that level.

710
00:54:04.039 --> 00:54:07.480
Oh absolutely, I mean the collective
mind is more powerful than a singular right.

711
00:54:07.519 --> 00:54:09.519
It's like when you bring everyone's thoughts
together and you discuss it, there's

712
00:54:09.559 --> 00:54:14.679
like, yeah, you're learning together. Yeah, and everybody has from each

713
00:54:14.719 --> 00:54:16.840
other. Yeah, every each guy
has their own like, um, real

714
00:54:17.000 --> 00:54:24.480
strengths and it really works out really
well. Um, everybody has added something

715
00:54:24.559 --> 00:54:30.599
to old school you know that is
we couldn't do without too and still produce

716
00:54:30.639 --> 00:54:35.199
the same product. Any shout out
to the whole team. But do you

717
00:54:35.280 --> 00:54:37.280
want to shout out to the whole
team? For sure? Shout out everyone?

718
00:54:37.840 --> 00:54:42.320
You guys grow some fire product all
you every person there does like some

719
00:54:42.599 --> 00:54:47.760
super specialized job that nobody else Is
this this theirs? And you're like and

720
00:54:49.159 --> 00:54:52.199
and nobody you wouldn't let anybody else
do it? What are you doing?

721
00:54:52.159 --> 00:54:54.159
That's Brad, what are you doing? You know what I mean? Like

722
00:54:54.599 --> 00:55:00.559
it's out everybody knows their place and
it's perfect, and it's it's moving.

723
00:55:01.079 --> 00:55:07.559
Team makes you so much more powerful, right at first, it took a

724
00:55:07.760 --> 00:55:09.519
minute. You're like, you think
it's going to be like that. You

725
00:55:09.639 --> 00:55:15.360
all run out there and you're so
positive and you want to just crush it.

726
00:55:15.719 --> 00:55:21.320
But then you realize that, like
every you know, it's what you

727
00:55:21.440 --> 00:55:24.239
didn't expect. You know, we
went learning to work with people too in

728
00:55:24.320 --> 00:55:29.360
different ways, and every problem that
a grow could have, we had,

729
00:55:30.119 --> 00:55:36.079
you know, from the blues of
trying to renovate an old building and then

730
00:55:36.519 --> 00:55:45.039
growing it. You know, our
building is by no means a new like

731
00:55:45.400 --> 00:55:50.960
you know, clean steel build.
It's been used for many businesses over the

732
00:55:51.039 --> 00:55:53.400
years. I think it was originally
a window indoor factory and like the thirties,

733
00:55:54.000 --> 00:56:00.039
so it was a bit of a
you know, we had great engineers

734
00:56:00.519 --> 00:56:07.719
and we had um some skilled builders. But even after that, we've still

735
00:56:07.840 --> 00:56:12.440
had all the problems, the leaks, we had a pipe come undone underground

736
00:56:12.519 --> 00:56:17.400
and flood our walls. Jeez.
Yeah, we've seen our our air conditioners

737
00:56:17.559 --> 00:56:23.360
because really there's not very many air
conditioning units in the world that can do

738
00:56:23.519 --> 00:56:27.880
what we're trying to tell them to
do in the Michigan climate. You know,

739
00:56:28.480 --> 00:56:32.400
run it's negative seven outside and we're
telling an AC unit sitting outdoor that

740
00:56:32.519 --> 00:56:37.199
it needs to turn on and run
all day long. It's like, this

741
00:56:37.360 --> 00:56:39.079
makes no sense. This is not
what I would design for. This makes

742
00:56:39.159 --> 00:56:45.840
no sense. So we've seen our
units fail and we've had to and when

743
00:56:45.880 --> 00:56:51.400
a unit fails, you know,
havoc happen, you know, And so

744
00:56:51.719 --> 00:56:54.679
I mean just here losing power.
Having generators as such a must too and

745
00:56:55.800 --> 00:57:00.719
everything out of swing to for the
everything and to have a generator for a

746
00:57:00.840 --> 00:57:07.599
facility that has one hundred and twenty
thousand lots of grow light. Um,

747
00:57:07.960 --> 00:57:12.599
those are very very expensive generator.
I can't immend. So I can only

748
00:57:12.599 --> 00:57:16.719
image we can't um easily have obtain
one of those and have or even just

749
00:57:16.840 --> 00:57:21.599
to have a contract to have one
on call. It just WoT you know,

750
00:57:22.079 --> 00:57:23.280
Yeah, we couldn't. Those would
be big hits. Well, I

751
00:57:23.360 --> 00:57:25.320
mean, shout out to your whole
team, man, you shout out to

752
00:57:25.320 --> 00:57:28.880
your partners, to shout out to
everyone that puts in because it sounds like

753
00:57:29.039 --> 00:57:31.280
it's definitely a team effort there,
Like it is a definitely shout everyone,

754
00:57:31.440 --> 00:57:36.599
well, thank you. Um and
I wish I could have everybody here in

755
00:57:36.639 --> 00:57:37.679
this room. They would all be
in here too, trying to smoke with

756
00:57:37.800 --> 00:57:40.079
us. Yeah, if you want
to shout anyone out, yeah, definitely

757
00:57:40.159 --> 00:57:44.000
right now. Anyone else you want
to shout out besides your team that helped

758
00:57:44.039 --> 00:57:45.840
you or along any like any you
know, like shout out mom like,

759
00:57:45.880 --> 00:57:50.599
I don't know, I don't know
anyone you know, um, absolutely,

760
00:57:50.800 --> 00:58:00.159
uh sure mom, oh no our
lab ACT Laboratories cool. They have an

761
00:58:00.199 --> 00:58:07.480
absolutely amazing They provide accurate data that
the industry one percent needs. You're a

762
00:58:07.559 --> 00:58:09.920
testing facility. Yes, oh it's
interesting because that's I don't think I've heard

763
00:58:10.000 --> 00:58:19.000
of that ACT Labs is out of
Lansing. Um they are. Sorry,

764
00:58:19.039 --> 00:58:21.320
sorry, no, I was thinking
never mind, no nothing else, it's

765
00:58:21.360 --> 00:58:23.000
okay, no cool, Just I
just know I love hearing that people use

766
00:58:23.039 --> 00:58:27.320
the smaller testers because sometimes you see
like the bigger ones getting all the markets.

767
00:58:27.360 --> 00:58:29.280
So when you see these like nine, these big ones, I'm like,

768
00:58:29.360 --> 00:58:32.599
hell yeah, when you mean good
labs, yeah, and then you

769
00:58:32.719 --> 00:58:37.400
mean PSI or PETE, okay,
is ever a big one? I don't

770
00:58:37.440 --> 00:58:42.320
know whatever. I would say that
the big theme was the big one I

771
00:58:42.480 --> 00:58:46.920
was thinking of. I would say
that Verness is probably just everybody else.

772
00:58:47.639 --> 00:58:52.840
It's kind of I think there's one
more can cambium. That's oh, that's

773
00:58:52.880 --> 00:58:54.920
it's okay. I'm sorry, I
think kind of that's you know. I

774
00:58:54.960 --> 00:59:01.199
would say popular because of um,
uh, there do a lot of tests

775
00:59:01.400 --> 00:59:05.840
pass just terpians. I think they
were trying to work on flavonoids and other

776
00:59:05.920 --> 00:59:10.440
things, and so a lot of
the concentrate companies were flocking to them,

777
00:59:10.519 --> 00:59:20.079
and the people I don't know.
I love the ACT act at Labs.

778
00:59:20.199 --> 00:59:24.800
Hell yeah, they're a multi state
operator. They came to Michigan I think

779
00:59:25.920 --> 00:59:32.280
the year before we were licensed,
and um, we were approached by one

780
00:59:32.280 --> 00:59:38.280
of their salespeople and she's just been
absolutely amazing. All the customer service.

781
00:59:38.760 --> 00:59:45.880
Um, everything at act Labs is
just tight and done properly, and I

782
00:59:45.039 --> 00:59:52.199
know that I'm going to get accurate
results and within four days every single time,

783
00:59:52.320 --> 00:59:58.719
like clockwork. We did do pretty
well at the Michigan Marijuana Report.

784
00:59:59.280 --> 01:00:02.719
Um, they do their annual conference. Remember the magazine, Oh yeah,

785
01:00:04.559 --> 01:00:07.039
this was I used to take them
home a yeah, yeah they still they

786
01:00:07.119 --> 01:00:12.960
still do their um thing. Sugar
cones one first place, Sativa UM,

787
01:00:13.239 --> 01:00:21.639
the sugar cones, live resin pen
one second place, uh um concentrate UM

788
01:00:21.880 --> 01:00:27.559
cartridges. I think that it wasn't
any like we lost to a live rasin.

789
01:00:28.679 --> 01:00:32.639
So it wasn't like really wasn't any
concentrate in a in a car?

790
01:00:32.960 --> 01:00:39.519
Interesting, right, they didn't separate
it solvent solvent but because still I was

791
01:00:39.599 --> 01:00:44.119
still super happy with that. That's
awesome. Congratulations on them. Yeah,

792
01:00:44.280 --> 01:00:51.119
and then we had a couple other
wins, a third place hybrid and um

793
01:00:53.599 --> 01:00:59.239
oh second place pre roll nice yeah
for the jet field pope, Oh my

794
01:00:59.360 --> 01:01:04.920
god, I see yeah, I
love that stuff. Man Tasty. Definitely

795
01:01:04.960 --> 01:01:07.280
enjoyed that. Um, that was
the first time we had ever won anything.

796
01:01:07.320 --> 01:01:13.239
We've competed quite a few times though, now, Um, just keep

797
01:01:13.360 --> 01:01:15.360
keep trying. It's fine. I
mean, I don't got some winds on

798
01:01:15.480 --> 01:01:17.679
your belt. They're fun, they're
fun. I like to see what's uh,

799
01:01:17.880 --> 01:01:21.599
what's out there, and it's a
good chance to see, um,

800
01:01:21.880 --> 01:01:24.519
what the consumers are into. Yeah, it's true, see what people are

801
01:01:24.559 --> 01:01:28.159
really digging. That's a good point. Yeah, and seeing how you measure

802
01:01:28.280 --> 01:01:30.920
up to the market. Right,
everybody wants to know, you know,

803
01:01:30.079 --> 01:01:34.599
like give yourself some sorts. Good
for yourself to know. I mean you

804
01:01:34.679 --> 01:01:37.559
gotta you gotta know where you're at. I mean, yeah, not that

805
01:01:37.159 --> 01:01:40.159
I need to enter more myself.
Yeah, Dave entered his first one,

806
01:01:40.280 --> 01:01:45.920
right, got third place for the
weed we smoked earlier. Yeah, the

807
01:01:46.159 --> 01:01:52.400
organic cup. It was always kind
of like I lost that one. Yeah,

808
01:01:52.880 --> 01:01:54.119
yeah, as um oh no,
no, no, no, no,

809
01:01:54.159 --> 01:01:57.840
no, no no. It was
the one before that. What was

810
01:01:57.880 --> 01:02:00.079
it? Because you know Judge Strains. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Judge

811
01:02:00.079 --> 01:02:04.360
Strains came and picked up a strain
for one of the cups. Was it

812
01:02:04.639 --> 01:02:08.400
was? It was the Big Cloud? Was it Big Cloud? I don't

813
01:02:08.440 --> 01:02:14.679
know cup they did if they do
a few in the summer. He came

814
01:02:14.719 --> 01:02:16.519
and picked it up. I can't
remember the actual cup. Like I said,

815
01:02:16.519 --> 01:02:19.719
I've just been anytime. Sounds like
you've been entering. Yeah, hell

816
01:02:19.800 --> 01:02:22.840
yeah, keep it alive. I
got a competition. I'm like, oh

817
01:02:22.119 --> 01:02:28.719
here, yeah, it's a chance. Um. Although we did, um,

818
01:02:29.119 --> 01:02:30.360
we stay out of High We stayed
out of High Times this year.

819
01:02:30.760 --> 01:02:35.599
Um, well last year it was
crazy. Nothing against High Times, nothing

820
01:02:35.639 --> 01:02:38.639
against the competition at all. Um. We just didn't feel prepared or ready

821
01:02:38.679 --> 01:02:40.840
for it. Well, it's a
lot of product too. We a lot

822
01:02:40.880 --> 01:02:44.880
of product, Wasn't it like a
lot? When dn K was telling us

823
01:02:44.960 --> 01:02:47.920
there's a lot. I mean,
all of these competitions, especially when they

824
01:02:47.960 --> 01:02:52.760
have a box, it's going to
take a decent amount of products, because

825
01:02:52.159 --> 01:02:55.760
you gotta it's gonna be a people's
choice and the only way to get all

826
01:02:55.800 --> 01:03:00.440
the people to do a people's choice. That makes sense. Could you need

827
01:03:00.480 --> 01:03:05.519
a lot of so it can be
you know, not a bit taxing on

828
01:03:05.800 --> 01:03:09.760
our inventory, especially as a small
company. Um yeah, first, you

829
01:03:09.880 --> 01:03:15.760
know, our smaller productivity. It
can it definitely feels like more to us

830
01:03:15.960 --> 01:03:19.840
to just like, oh, here's
a pound for our competition. We're like,

831
01:03:20.360 --> 01:03:24.599
damn, it's yeah, I understand
you're not. Yeah, yeah,

832
01:03:25.239 --> 01:03:28.320
we're like, you know, we're
some coming. You know. They were

833
01:03:28.400 --> 01:03:30.440
like you know, they probably like, um, when there's leaks, they

834
01:03:30.519 --> 01:03:37.880
like push pounds up against the wall. So any buckets we got some trim

835
01:03:37.280 --> 01:03:45.320
yeah exactly, And I know that
I um, but keeps you, it

836
01:03:45.400 --> 01:03:47.360
keeps healthy. Yeah, yeah,
yeah, well well we gotta keep doing

837
01:03:47.440 --> 01:03:50.239
it. We gets your name,
gets your name out there, gets people

838
01:03:50.239 --> 01:03:52.400
to try it. That's how that's
how we found you. We got you.

839
01:03:53.239 --> 01:03:57.119
Sometimes, Jake, especially with Dispenser, you fall in your routine and

840
01:03:57.159 --> 01:04:00.239
where you go because it's it's it's
comfortable, right, it's easy, like

841
01:04:00.360 --> 01:04:01.639
you're on the same path. You
don't always go to a different despos so

842
01:04:01.679 --> 01:04:05.559
you don't always see every strain right
correct, every company market It's like,

843
01:04:05.880 --> 01:04:09.880
you know, how do you guys
stand out when winning these competitions, doing

844
01:04:10.280 --> 01:04:15.159
your all organic method, doing these
retro lines, coming out with newer school

845
01:04:15.199 --> 01:04:17.880
genetics like the Citrus ascension, like
coming out all this is like bringing so

846
01:04:18.039 --> 01:04:21.559
much demand probably to your guys's product. Plus for us to ret our old

847
01:04:21.599 --> 01:04:25.599
school strains. I love that well
thing. Yeah, I think that's sick.

848
01:04:25.599 --> 01:04:28.639
I haven't seen anything like that,
And we were talking about that like

849
01:04:28.840 --> 01:04:30.159
last year. We thought we were
gonna see more retro strains. But they

850
01:04:30.199 --> 01:04:32.800
hear that you guys are bringing that. I'm like my eyes going to be

851
01:04:32.920 --> 01:04:42.039
peeled on the dispose that you mentioned. I'm gonna to get nice. I'm

852
01:04:42.079 --> 01:04:46.639
gonna try to get a nice spread
across the state so that um, we

853
01:04:47.079 --> 01:04:51.800
people feel like they all can get
a chance because it's gonna it's so hard

854
01:04:51.960 --> 01:04:57.320
when you got twelve, thirteen,
fourteen strains to try to grow enough of

855
01:04:57.559 --> 01:05:00.639
each strained to spread it around.
Maybe we do need to focus a little

856
01:05:00.679 --> 01:05:05.360
bit more on, you know,
certain heavy hitters. But I need the

857
01:05:05.519 --> 01:05:11.400
variety in my life. And I
mean hopefully when when we do drop these,

858
01:05:11.440 --> 01:05:14.639
everybody gets a chance to go and
find something. We'll do our best

859
01:05:14.679 --> 01:05:17.599
to get it everywhere though all over
the state. We're like you said,

860
01:05:17.920 --> 01:05:20.440
we that's why we're happy with the
competitions. We get to find you.

861
01:05:20.559 --> 01:05:25.119
But like you said, uh where
else can we find you? Besides Quality

862
01:05:25.199 --> 01:05:29.679
Roots? Just a week everyone remembers, oh, Quality Roots, GLH,

863
01:05:30.920 --> 01:05:36.559
Local Roots, Lanesburg up Cannabis,
flint Um, all ascend locations. There

864
01:05:36.639 --> 01:05:39.880
we go, there we go.
M just want to make sure they know

865
01:05:40.079 --> 01:05:43.639
because like this stuff is fire.
Thank you. I really enjoyed it.

866
01:05:43.679 --> 01:05:46.079
And I see your passion in your
eyes for your plans due and that's huge

867
01:05:46.159 --> 01:05:49.719
because you know a lot of times
you're you're seeing a lot of bigger players

868
01:05:49.760 --> 01:05:53.519
come. So there's still players.
Like you said, there's three owners,

869
01:05:53.639 --> 01:05:56.480
right, you and two others that
started this thing. Now only ten more

870
01:05:56.519 --> 01:06:00.480
employees after that. So it's like
it's still very small, it's all and

871
01:06:00.800 --> 01:06:04.519
we we want to we want to
keep it that way, um, so

872
01:06:04.719 --> 01:06:10.079
that we can just like brewing beer, you know, every time the brewery

873
01:06:10.199 --> 01:06:15.360
produces more beer, do you see
a quality the quality keeps? You know,

874
01:06:15.559 --> 01:06:18.159
getting small batch is important. You
know, we're just gonna keep going.

875
01:06:19.719 --> 01:06:24.840
Yeah, one little room at a
time. You want to ask your

876
01:06:25.199 --> 01:06:28.880
final question, let you ask?
Oh, all right, so we always

877
01:06:28.920 --> 01:06:31.000
ask this, uh last question.
It's kind of like a fun question.

878
01:06:31.280 --> 01:06:36.119
Um, Dave made it up since
the first one we've been asked. It

879
01:06:36.320 --> 01:06:39.719
is straight up fun. You can
take as long as you need to think

880
01:06:39.719 --> 01:06:43.320
about it, essentially. Okay,
So imagine you're going to open an eighth

881
01:06:43.440 --> 01:06:46.639
right, open your eighth boom,
and a cannabis genie comes out right and

882
01:06:46.719 --> 01:06:51.039
you're like, oh, snap,
Genie, this is really clever. I

883
01:06:51.440 --> 01:06:59.719
sell it. We do. Yeah, I know, but cannais Genie comes

884
01:06:59.760 --> 01:07:02.000
out and you in the campastry says
I would grant you one wish for the

885
01:07:02.079 --> 01:07:05.519
campas industry. What would that one
wish be? Because we have so many

886
01:07:05.599 --> 01:07:10.760
things with safe banking to criminalization and
you know, people can't find strange,

887
01:07:10.800 --> 01:07:13.239
Like there's so many things that are
like hard right in the industry. So

888
01:07:14.280 --> 01:07:17.760
any one thing, oh man,
yeah, see I know an it always

889
01:07:17.880 --> 01:07:30.880
is. That's like I feel likes
America right world hunger. Um. I

890
01:07:30.039 --> 01:07:36.920
think that if I couldn't make anyone
change, it would be um you know

891
01:07:38.119 --> 01:07:41.679
or did you say change or anyone
any one wish for the industry? Yeah,

892
01:07:41.880 --> 01:07:45.079
any industry. Yeah, I like
that, Like that's probably a better

893
01:07:45.159 --> 01:07:47.960
way to say, Yeah, one
wish an industry just you know, people

894
01:07:48.000 --> 01:07:55.199
put out quality product that they can
take pride into. I nobody wants.

895
01:07:57.599 --> 01:08:00.800
I don't think it's fair to put
out a bun to put product onto the

896
01:08:00.920 --> 01:08:05.719
market that you wouldn't consume personally,
because you know that it wasn't grown with

897
01:08:05.800 --> 01:08:11.079
the love that deserved right, and
you know that you might have used some

898
01:08:11.199 --> 01:08:15.000
search shady practices, and you might
have cutt in some corners, and um,

899
01:08:15.319 --> 01:08:18.600
you even know that there might even
be some hazards or some you know,

900
01:08:19.119 --> 01:08:25.560
you're just not putting out there's so
much of it out there. Yeah,

901
01:08:25.600 --> 01:08:28.039
you're just selling stuff to make money, and you're not really putting that

902
01:08:28.119 --> 01:08:30.439
love into it. Like I see
the love you putting in. There's a

903
01:08:30.560 --> 01:08:33.720
lot of there's I could smell it. There's a good twenty there's a good

904
01:08:33.800 --> 01:08:39.359
twenty brands in the state that that
are putting that passion into it. And

905
01:08:39.880 --> 01:08:42.880
all you guys that are doing that, keep doing it. And we're going

906
01:08:42.920 --> 01:08:45.319
to keep doing it with you guys, and we're going to keep the Michigan

907
01:08:45.399 --> 01:08:48.000
market top notch. And that's that's
what I would wish for the Michigan market.

908
01:08:48.279 --> 01:08:51.119
I'd wish for it to lead the
cannabis industry in the nation, to

909
01:08:51.239 --> 01:08:55.039
show everybody what real qual we stand
up to. Kelly, I don't care

910
01:08:55.079 --> 01:09:00.319
what anyone says. Yeah, yeah, I UM took a trip out to

911
01:09:00.479 --> 01:09:05.039
La not too long ago, and
UM, I took weed with me on

912
01:09:05.159 --> 01:09:12.159
the plane because I even even though
California, even though California has weed,

913
01:09:12.239 --> 01:09:15.319
I needed to bring my weed with
me, right, And I'm so glad

914
01:09:15.359 --> 01:09:19.600
that I did. Yeah. So, I mean, if you go to

915
01:09:19.680 --> 01:09:24.159
a dispo in California, maybe I'm
sure that I've had some boo boos and

916
01:09:24.199 --> 01:09:28.560
I've had some good bud like the
same same thing as Michigan. It's the

917
01:09:28.640 --> 01:09:32.279
same as Michigan. And it's you
win some and you lose something. But

918
01:09:32.479 --> 01:09:36.159
I typically lost out there. I
feel you. Yeah, yeah, we

919
01:09:36.239 --> 01:09:40.159
got some anywhere I go. I
still want to look. I want to

920
01:09:40.159 --> 01:09:45.159
see what Vegas we tried. It
was just love. It was dry out

921
01:09:45.199 --> 01:09:47.560
there. Yeah, the arid climate. Oh my god, it's so dry

922
01:09:47.960 --> 01:09:51.960
everything. Yeah. And I don't
do Beavita packs like I'm more like the

923
01:09:53.039 --> 01:09:56.880
humid or type person who take a
whole room and do complete climate control on

924
01:09:57.000 --> 01:10:00.079
it and then you you know,
it's like day with the six cigars.

925
01:10:00.319 --> 01:10:03.359
It's exactly I mean, this should
be this should be treated like a cigar,

926
01:10:03.520 --> 01:10:09.319
but then aaratype, which I mean
some cigars you know are kept jaratyp

927
01:10:09.560 --> 01:10:13.520
Yeah yeah yeah, no similar stuff, dude, And thank you Jason,

928
01:10:15.079 --> 01:10:18.640
the whole team. Yes, Old
School Organics man, you guys love your

929
01:10:18.680 --> 01:10:24.239
product. Can't wait to smoke at
all. Yeah. Um, thanks everybody

930
01:10:24.279 --> 01:10:27.720
at Old School Organics. Hell and
thanks everybody that's helped us out along the

931
01:10:27.800 --> 01:10:31.239
way. Thank you guys for having
us. Anytime you guys ever want to

932
01:10:31.279 --> 01:10:33.720
come and hang out, you're more
than welcome. Hell yeah, we definitely

933
01:10:33.760 --> 01:10:39.039
will. Old School Organics Old School
Organics for twenty check them out on ig

934
01:10:39.600 --> 01:10:42.960
so if you see the bag,
check it out. Retro coming soon.

935
01:10:43.279 --> 01:10:45.720
Yes, yeah, very excited.
Thank you Jason and UH. As always,

936
01:10:45.760 --> 01:10:46.520
we're here to advocate

