Yo, what's going on? Everybody? Welcome to another episode of my Cancast.
I'm Candiday. Yeah, I'm groovy. On today's episode, we have
special guests Jason, founder, owner and cultivator of Old School Organics. Yeah.
How's it going, guys, Jason. Yeah, So we've been kind
of like excited for this interview for over a year now because the Zebra Piss
and we saw your Zebra Piss and the High Times, so we've just been
a fan of your stuff. We love the clean white ash, so it's
been like curious about the Yeah, the organics days, all organic over here.
So I'm really just excited to just talk to you about Yeah. No,
I mean he's so, I mean, just Jason, a little bit
about who you are, you know, where are you from? Like,
and well we'll get into Old School. There's three of us that are owners
of Old School again. Um, myself, my best friend Rich and his
girlfriend Kelsey. Um, the three of us about five years ago. Um.
She approached me because I had been growing for a long time as a
caregiver before that, and she had a lot of experience with using smoking my
products and yeah, so she she thought she always thought that that there was
something there and she was in the position to be able to fund a project.
And um, so once I found out she was interested, um my
buddy and I we put together a business plan within the week and we brought
it to her and uh we got going. But as you was so glad
you did, because like, without it, we wouldn't have tried your stuff.
So I mean, like, and it is really crazy sometimes that push
from your closest people can get you to get involved and do the things that
you're like you love doing. You know. That was twenty eighteen, um
when we first started the actual venture. But I was a caregiver from two
thousand and nine till two thousand and seventeen. When as when you uh change
over to commercial, they make you give up any caregiver abilities. Yeah,
so yeah, and they don't use two eighteens when you went to the rexite
or twenty eighteen when we apply applied, right, So it took us three
years because of COVID building UM licensing you it was a three years of just
going through the process. You're saying yes before three years of going through the
process. Shout out to you and your team because that takes patience and a
few of you. It's a lot of work, you know. We were
pulling our hats. Yeah, we were. Yeah, it was it was
tough. Um, it was a lot of stress at first. This was
early on and that's when there was still a board UM at the at that
time. M m M shout out. Uh. They've actually been UM,
they've actually been really great. UM, they have been. They're very nice
and they've um where they're running. They running a clean show right now.
They've been cleaning up around town and seems like it's making the market a better
place and a more fair, fair place to operate. That's great for especially
when you're running a business. You need to be a fair and fair that's
going with the laws and regulations. Absolutely. I mean you can there's a
lot of rules to this UM, to this market and to this If you're
cheating the rules, UM, it creates a very unfair UM market and its
impossible to compete for for companies who are following you know, the rules,
the rules, you know when that's your competition. So it's more the more
people you know that are you know, caught and get it, it's going
to put a message out for the entire community that's not accepted, and it's
going to make it a whole lot easier for small companies like us to be
able to compete. Ye oh yeah, because I mean that's the thing with
these I mean, I'm not going to say which companies I can't calm up,
but these big, these big lobby and companies. No, I'm just
saying, yeah, a couple, That's what I was saying in my head.
But like it's more or less just like, um, it makes it
really unfair to like, you know, and there's already enough disadvantages to just
running a cannabis company already, where you can't rate things off, you can't
all sorts of stuff. So you're already well you guys are we're getting all
the subjects right away. I jump right in hot heavy there, I didn't
we were still Yeah, I'm Jason and I'm yeah from Fort Michigan. There.
No, But seriously, I like it. I hope that this is
a an intense talk because I feel like there are a lot of intense issues.
But then, um, I really, you know, I want to
talk about cannabis like flower appear. No. No, usually yeah, that's
the way usually we were talking about you, but we judge and I do
want to get intense though too. I'm ready to hear it. But you
said you're from poor Urine, so you you're from Michigan. I'm from Michigan,
Okay, So that's why it's a Michigan market special to you for that
reason. Like absolutely, you know, the first time I ever smoked pot
was in Michigan and nineteen nineies six when I was you know, an early
teen, And I've used cannabis um to as a crutch for my ADHD that
I was diagnosed early on. I cannot stand you know, um stimulant pharma,
MAG pharma A five ans that whole world. I was prescribed riddling.
You know, they try to put me on that too, So I totally
get that in six, sixth grade and it, like man, changed my
personality. It made it really hard for me to, uh, you don't
know, be myself at school. And I think that it might have created
some like social anxiety and some other things that like kind of I don't know.
I and I had a lot of behavior problems at school, and um,
I don't think that speed was the right solution. No, I think
they were. I think they were that riddle right, let's give these kids
pretty much meth, yeah, because they're already hyper, but that'll calm them
down exactly. So riddling didn't work well for me. So they're like,
we know, some stronger shit out. It just came out. It's called
adderall. They're like, that was probably like I was a small kid,
you know that. You know, I'm you know, pre teen, so
I'm talking sixth grade, seventh grade right, um. And they had me
on a thirty milligram salt like I don't know if you guys know how strong
the thirties. They had me on the thirty salt in the morning and I
would take it and I would be like right, and I told my I.
Eventually I I realized that cannabis was always It brought me into that calmer
state, palmer state where I wasn't just like constantly you know, fidgety drummond.
Do you know I was bouncing off them off the walls when no,
no, you're preaching to the choir over here. I was that kid as
well. Okay, you ask him. I want to think. I don't
know. It was probably something to do with uh, you know, in
the eight early eighties. I don't don't think the parents realized what the food
companies were giving the kids, and I think this assumed a huge the doctor
must be good, the doctor knows or just the food companies were like giving
us crazy shit food and was causing like all of these Like you know,
I was for breakfast. You go to school, you could get a cinnamon
roll the size of your head and a Hawaiian punch right for a dollar fifty
sugar with rety. You're a eleven years old man, you're walking in the
school. You're going to be in an asshold for the rest of the day.
That's the way you started your day, right, Yeah, And I
probably was, I bet you. My teachers were like, put this kid
on fucking riddling. And so when the teachers are yelling at and the doctors
are yelling at because they don't underlaying well, it seems like you should probably
be on riddling because everyone's telling them it was yeah, And at that time,
they were over diagnosing and they weren't treating you know who knows over diagnosing,
and it was really big. I feel like it was such a popular
thing to have candidates around and it's illegal and it's been many medicinal here like
It's always worked for me. I use it every day. I smoke it
every day. Is that your preferred ways the role joints? I mean absolutely?
Yeah. I actually smoked one right before jet fuel crossed with yea,
wow tasty. Did you guys like that? That's yeah. So here's the
old school argainings. You haven't seen them. What are some of the strains
you have right now, like on the market where consumers can go pick it
up? Like, what are some of your top vendors where they can go
and check check out some of your flowers locations? Yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah, absolutely, I said vendors, but yeah locations. Yeah,
okay, our top so our retail partners. Um, we're all over the
state of Michigan. UM Lighten Up Cannabis flint Um, all Ascend locations,
all Quality Roots locations, all GLH locations, Great Lakes Holistics, UM Mood
Cannabis Jacks and UM Local Roots Landsburg, UM, A lot of mom and
pop shops. Mom and dad, you've got lots and lots and lots of
brothers and sisters. You all look different. Oh yeah, me and my
sister look way different. Right, So just because you have the same mom
and dad, doesn't mean, you know, and the phenomena of you know,
amazing elite genetics is few and farm between. Like how many Lebron James
do you got running around the planet? Right, and so exactly there's a
lot of people on this planet. There is so um. With that being
said, I think that there's this, there's these outliers and they're special and
across the years from you know, dating all the way back into you know,
early eighties, probably mid eighties, there was when it got past you
know, just early hybridization and you know when they first were when you started
seeing these early widows and these early ogs and these this you know, the
comes. I mean, they're those strains were they were selected for um effect
and not and not THHC percentage THC percentage. And you can tell that's true.
You know, that's a great point. I never thought about that,
the genetic difference, like why they were going into these genetics versus why they
are now and like why right was right? It was how good does it
taste that? Y? What does it taste like? What does it feel
like? You never thought about that. So um strange fies have changed strains
from the early nineties O. G. Cush's sour diesels, BLUs their hearts.
Oh god, kem dog, I'd kill versus. Yeah. Oh that
we got a Catsu Bubba that we're gonna be releasing. We're gonna do a
whole classic retro line. Oh oh sh yeah, so the classic retro line.
You also hear that? Do you want to hear the whole lineup?
I just hadause button. There was an applause. No. No, we
always talk about that, like we missed these throwbacks strains like finding that new
cookies, Like we get it, but like we miss that stuff. You
know, a poco No we our Um Olympics and mother was um the a
ninety two og Cush cut and ninety two ninety two I was two, we
were two years old. Um, it's one of my favorite strains. I've
had it since two thousand eleven. I traded a deadhead og for it.
Um and it was that's like a legit cut of og Cush. You said,
right, yeah, oh yeah, it's like you can tell how old
it is because how hard it is to clone. That makes it needs to
be reinvigorated. It needs to be tissue cultured, it needs to be brought
back. Um, I'm just so I don't have my own tissue culture lab.
I should be working out. Have you seen the Athena box stuff?
I did see the Athena box stuff and where I was horribly play horribly played
ruby, but you know what I was. We saw it at mj Biscom
this year and we're like, whoa, you know, two grand or twenty
five hundred is way more affordable than, like you said, a culture lab.
It's apps, It absolutely is. I hope that it's as easy as
they say. But you still got to think about long term storage and you
know there's an environment. We have all those things available, we have the
space to do it, but um, it's everything takes resources, and right
now we're really most focused on uh production, Yeah, of quality flow Well,
and you said quality, we're talking about og cush like how was that
zo Olympics stuff? Like why was that? It's like my favorite strains.
So I I love it. I hope that the people that got those Olympics
boxes. Um, I hope they like it. It's a classic OG.
I bet you everybody's gonna love it. That's like, yeah, you know,
let us know if you if you got the OG I mean I guess
wait it was blind so you don't know. But if you notice there was
an OG in the box, I like that. It was that's good.
That's the one thing we didn't like about the High Times Cup that it was
like, yeah, it's a fair judgment because you don't know who's who grew
it, what brandings on it. Nothing you true flavor and a factor.
Yeah, should be mean yep. Yeah, So we competed the OG because
I mean she's been, um, my favorite strain for years and years,
but um, the retro lineup we have that og. Um, we also
have the San Fernando Valley cut. Oh that we're also it's a throwback.
Man. I used to love that in like the old Caregiver day. I
used to get that s f Bog Yeah man, oh yeah that's fine.
She's more um, she's been more classic classic where I feel like my ninety
two cut is um a little bit more on the sour side, just a
she's gas but um more of like if you know the reserve of Pravada og.
She has more of that that brightness to her, whereas not as earthy
as the classic like like yeah, yeah, yeah, um, I love
them both though, I mean Uh, the technically you're standing by your name
old school organics right now. Retro. The original plan, right, is
that I was going to try to bring all these elites. I mean even
your packaging is pretty retro, like the logos retro. Like it's a vibe,
you know what I'm saying. You guys got a vibe going. We
always wanted to bring um old elite cuts that had been kind of like lost
when you know, all of this new age hype, she chasing type of
person like whatever. Not to say that there's not a thousand amazing new strains
out right now. Believe me, we grow those two. We love those
two. It's just these seem to be there. Like it's like um,
like like baseball cards, you know, like having like an old, rare
baseball car or just has something, you know, this nostalgic value. And
uh, you know I used to look at it as wine, right,
like older wine gets rare, right, it's rare, like doing me wrong.
New wines like very tasty, you know, like I'm not a huge
wine guy, but like I know my wines or anything, but that old
wineing. When you have like an old whatever bottle, it's like whoa that
was rare. I haven't had a ninety two og bubble or cush. You
know, cush. He's me I crossed a bunch of my head together.
But we are smoking. But we do have a bubba, that's why.
But that's another one. Okay, Yeah, what else is to bubakay Um?
We have Lupa's headband, headband, let's go. We have the Indiana
bubble gum. Oh dude, I don't know what that is, but it
sounds a good. Um. We have a white widow cut that we just
obtained recently that seems extremely promising. It's exciting. It's what's like legit,
Like that's like a legit. It's cut that I've been looking for for a
long long time. Recently, I mean it was huge. I've been looking
for some of the cuts I've had for ten plus years. Some of them
I've been looking for for years and years and years. But it wasn't until
this business came to me that finally gave me the ability to finally find some
of them. Um, you know, and the resources once again. Yeah,
I love that you're bringing these these genetics back for a lot of consumers
that at the times haven't even tried to cat Sue Bubba or or og Kush.
That's that's true. That's true because there's a whole generation of people who
are like, og, what your cookies like? First? That's so cool
that you guys are bring up this Ruchia line. When does this rutia line
hit? By chance? So I got me excited right now. We already
like we did the first drop of the og about a month and a half
ago, but it sold out in stores extremely fast. So please let us
know the next time it drops, Okay, candidate, Like, I know,
we both want to try it. Um the next yeah, the next
The next old school drop we're doing is UM headband and that will be finished
six to seven weeks. You know that mean cure, dried and tested,
ready for retail, right, So um, yeah, we're really excited about
I've never seen a headband on the commercial market, not a real cup of
headband. I haven't seen not since it was like from Michigan and it's pretty
much coming from California. Like I saw Midnight Roots Stone Owl. That's insanity,
and I don't know I haven't seen that one. No, no,
no, I'm familiar with me Night Risk. He seems to have the real
like og cush like whatever he's working with its gas right, yeah, shout
out the shadow. Yeah yeah, yeah, absolutely crushes. Um. You
know, I've seen a couple other strains that on the market that are you
know, they're they're they're there, but they're not like, um, you
know, the actual original elite cuts. Um, I always love it's hard
to find. Well, I'm I do sales for our company too, so
I'm visiting dispensaries all the time or um many hats provisionings, and I'm always
looking to see what's on every shelf. And I'm you know, I'm always
looking to see if they have, you know, old cuts, or if
they or if they even claim to have old cuts. Normally you just don't
even see anything labeled blue dream. You know. It's just it's rare.
The older the oldest cuts is much anymore, and not in a long time.
No, the oldest cuts you'll see is like an ice cream cake,
you know. And that's only like, you know, you're kind of right,
because ever since the cookie, ever since the cookie thing happened, it's
like I swear everything and find a forum cookie on the Oh that's right,
that's true. I've got swerves pack and swerves is what the thin mint cut
came out of? Oh right, I remember that thing. Realized that right,
and the thin mint cut is that was such still is again, I
can't find that either. I wouldn't say that's retro, but man, would
I kill for that? Yeah? Exactly it. It can't unless you still
have it from then, or you know, somehow saved in as one or
something um on s like something like your retro line is so huge because we
do lose these cuts all the time. If I had all the cuts that
I wish I wouldn't have lost, it would be oh man, this would
be I hate to bring up, like I hate to put salt in the
wounds here because Candid Dave has something that he doesn't like talking about, like
which ones do you? Which ones have you lost that hurt the most?
I guess because I hate to bring it up. But that's Candy Cush.
Yeah, I can't remember, Oh my god, tasty as hell. Yeah
it was. Oh see, I didn't want to bring up in your eye.
Man, I remember that Durban Poison though he had a Durban Poison cut
that was and had a death star death star cut. That's right, that
was a legit cut too, girl the dust Star before and that's beautiful,
that's greasy, yeah it was. That was a strange I got one across.
Really, it's right, that's right. That's why I think he loved
it back in the day. It's beautiful, it's greasy, greasy. You
don't see that, you ever. And Death Star either, Yeah, you
don't see death Star. It still lives. That's there. It's not one
of the ones that's like long lost. I'm sure people in Michigan have it.
And I know it's in Ohio. Yep, yep, it lived in
all It'll always be there. That's one of those things. It's like stable
to their culture. A man. I mean the death I don't know what
else they got, so don't I mean not talk. They got the dust
Star, the Dumpster and the lemon Ge. Lemon GE's from m oh Yeah.
Some guys down in like like a Columbus Athens, Ohio area that just
have been great, great growers for years and years. And Michigan has always
traded strains with the Ohio growers, so we've brought in a lot of Ohio
strains over the years. Oh shit, I love how well connected you are
with like every well we can reel with the community like the real some people
are just buying off lying like yeah, I mean that's what I do.
Your genetics seems so important to who you like as are as a grower.
It's the most I mean, it's the one thing that it's out of your
control but within your control. Right, So if you have the genetics,
you have them, and you have a huge advantage because like we said before,
I mean there's not once it's like anything in this world, it's hard
to be the best when there's thousands and thousands and thousands of and so this
is what can set you apart is having better genetics. And I completely I
didn't think about it industry moving forward, I think your genetics is going to
make you stand out for a lot of the cannabis smokers, like people on
variety, like the old school stuff the new age, like you got a
mix of both, like this is you and we're just getting keep cycling,
yeah, and that we're never We're gonna try to never stop and land on
any one thing and just say this is what we grow. And I want
it to be a revolving lineup of you know, one hundred great elite.
Well if you only if you always grew a string, eventually people get sick
of it, right, you know you I grow the stuff for me.
I smoke everything that we grow. Um. You know, I'm allowed to
taking a lot of amount as an employee of the company, and I make
sure, you know, get to try everything, and um, you don't
smoke this one citrus. Yeah, so they're all good man with my team,
um is, they have a great nose for cannabis and they um have
a They're amazing at helping uh execute every part of the process. So shout
out to the team. Yeah, how big is your total team? Is
it just you three still? Or is there no? There's twelve? No,
No, there's there's three of us as um. Uh, you know
at the ownership level. God whoever picked his jet fuel? I love you
like this is a duh. There's yeah, three of us at the ownership
level, and then we have about ten employees at the whole still small team
for a thousand plants and hand watered, hand trimmed, um, hand trimmed
and well hand watered, that's all. Wow. I mean he does hand
watering and it's like seventy plants and He's like, Man, I'm watering all
day a thousand plants. That's twenty times the kind we get into the girl
LEDs HBS. We was both okay in check the board, of course,
so we want to we want to. There's obvious reasons um to have LEDs,
to cut costs, to be more efficient, to be more green.
You know, you don't want to leave a massive footprint. But I believe
that there's no question in my mind that high pressure sodium um when all the
other parameters are right, when the room is perfect, in your maxim um,
your ppms of CO two, when everything is going perfect and optimal grow
environments like HPS to w HPS puts out um an intensity that has you just
can't compare to. And it's the it's the only way I can get the
density and the full roof of the plant. Right. I've tried to grow
under just LEDs. I mean it's still don't get me wrong. When you
see checkerboard, you mean checkerboard style like h every other h hs hs L.
But I just I wouldn't want to assume. But that's really cool that
you actually blending the light. That's more of a blend. Oh yeah,
Yeah, we're gonna roll up some centris, dude. And that's the thing.
Every every bag you've dropped here with in front of us, smell is
very unique, you know, and I really want to say, like you
really your genetics can show looks so important beautiful. You know, you don't
put on a candy cane. Let's show the jet field one of the kids.
If I wish I'll could smell that one. This one is I could
live in this bag. Soil really brings out the full characteristics. UM.
I personally love. I love the checkerboard for the lights soil you grow at
soil absolutely so we do a checkerboard um all Givita okay, nineteen thirty LEDs
um obvious you know for the UM standard thousand to a ended hps for the
UM. The other those are the bangers, and then you get the lads
for the spectrum. And when you have that UM, your light's nice and
high up off your canopy. You get a nice spread um of spectrum.
And so every plant you know gets I wouldn't say even I do see a
little bit of shift and swing from underneath the LED. You I mean you
can see you'll even see different and uptake. Right, I'll not just color
of leaves and buds or density, but I'll actually, um, they'll eat
at different rates. Um makes sense. Yeah, it's uh, every plant's
just a little different, right, I mean, yeah, well under each
light they act a little different. But we're really trying to get them to
get that mixture of spectrum so that we can see the full growth potential,
density, but still the high turpin production and some of the colors that LEDs
bring out. Absolutely. Yeah, yeah, I mean that's that is that's
a very point. Like I even think about bag of pep kind of from
the lights, like absolutely, it's huge. I mean, dud which one?
This doesn't check every box. It's crazy, even though like five years
ago we were smoking brick. We know, years ago, you know,
but just like the dense, the the the look on this one too,
the um what is this theato? Yeah, man, the tricombs are crazy
on this. Yeah, it's coated and I cracked open the citrus smell of
the flower smell pops so much after you grind up the button, you crack
it down in the grinder and open, the aroma just pops on these.
Yeah, And like you know, when you say it all. We're always
talking about an ensemble or entourage effect, right because like people always so you
know, t HC percentage percentage, TC percentage. It seems like you focus
on multiple things like your turpenes and like that balance. So because you're trying
to make that like that average, is there anything that you specifically like like
a what level of TCHC your turpeenes that you like aim to strive for?
Actually, is anyone hit always? What was the one we talked before the
episode two? I'm always trying to hit as high as turpine percentages and really
highest percentages I can across the board everything. You know, UM, big
numbers always impress people. And UM, when you seeing really high UM turpene
content, UM, it's normally a pretty good indicator of the quality of products.
UM. You know when you're hitting over three three and a halfs even
into the fours, UM, you know you're getting into some some really quality
products. You know, as as long as they finished that, you know,
finished it out without going into the over nutrient like UM overfed end of
things where they made it chunky. So you know, if they didn't never
overfed it. You can hit high turd beans and still have chunky pot Yeah.
Yeah, you know that everything has to work, you know, you
gotta there's so many factors, like the ninety one gun Fia super Fire.
It's part of the retro line um definitely. I'm excited. We've grown the
ninety one gun Fia and we've released it multiple times around the state of Michigan.
But we hadn't really marketed uh um Um as a retro line or anything.
Strains that I wanted to show people want to bring out to the community.
You don't see you don't see these strains in the market. It's all
new age, new age trains. People are trying to find that new strain
that's going to take off like runs some or take off like that Forum cut.
Like I think right now we do. You have a lot of exotic
like what's genetics though they're they're what's available, right the new strength of what's
available makes sense, finds hard to find. We'll find a Bubba cush right
right, Yeah, yeah, go find a master cush. Oh my god,
remember that Sindey ninety nine, or a real cut of sweet Tooth,
or a real cut some skunk. Oh, some real skunk scount number one.
That's one I've been I've been chasing for years and lost for words.
I have not seen anything, um anywhere close to what I've considered the elite
cuts of the early skunks. Nothing even close to. Damn man, that's
one of the ones that I keep looking. You guys put in, you
know, keep asking everybody that comes on this show, just keep saying that
no one's got a skunk. Maybe eventually one day somebody'd be like, there
she is, and you'll be like, and then you guys call them.
I was like, we hit up Jason I Media. Yeah, I'd be
I'd be so ecstatic. So that's that's one of the ones. We're both
you would leave your mind's like a skunk cut. That's what I was gonna
ask as well. I don't see like anything that's skunk. I remember loving
Bubba Cush and I don't remember what it tastes like. I just remembered loving
it and it's been so long. Chocolate, Earthen coffee, yeah, that's
in gas. It's still all of those. It's a good mixture. Amazing.
Yeah, if that, if I had to put it, and she
grows so identifiable, she grows a very into co looking the huge fat,
dark green like jungle looking leaves. She's very identifiable plant. And when you
I love the way you talk about your plants. When we bring the bubba
back um, which is coming back real, I will have the first drop
of bubba in probably two months. As soon as she's down, I'll bring
it here and you'll try it and be like, yeah, have you everyone
flash, I remember we're down for growth facilities like yours, especially these cuts,
Like oh my god, I've never seen Dave los his mind right,
yeah, absolutly yeah, yeah, oh yeah, we do. We love
that type of stuff. No, I just I just was so curious see
your grow because the way you talk about your plants, it's just you guys
can see that, like there's a passion and care and love and your grow
and you know, we've had growers on here. I'm not knocking any other
person who's ever grown on here, but our talking. But it's just the
way you speak about your plants, the way you describe them is like it
shows how much you've been how long you've been cultivating. In my eyes,
I love weed and branding there, no, but no, no, for
real, no, I love it though. It's so true though it's it
speaks so much, spoke speaks so true. Thank you. Um. We
really everybody at old Scoorganics loves weed just like I do. I'm shadow the
whole team. Yeah, I takes a team, you know. We everybody
there knows good weed. Everybody there loves good weed. Everybody there does everything
they can to make sure that Old School Organics is always producing good weed.
And they've Yeah, it's it's been a great time. Um. Of course,
any startup with you know, going into business with your friends and your
family and really everybody that works for us as friends and family, there is
not an uphill battle. Some days there's not a single person at our facility
that is not a friend or family member. See, that's so cool.
Like family, full whole family team. For we all knew each other before,
not all of us knew each and every member before, but we were
all connected within life. Someone knew someone of someone you know. Okay,
that's pretty that's pretty cool. Family feel very little turnover, all the same
people that pretty much all the same people we started. That's that's huge.
You guys are flower You just do you guys do pre roles? Is there
any edibles or concentrates of yours that people can try your product in as well
too. Um, we work with some processors that make collabse Yeah, we
do collapse and then. Um, we also have a live resin pen that
we sell. We have a processor our friends Green Co. Shout out fire
and nice. Um, that sound familiar. They have been a fire and
nice. That sounds super familiar. They've been in the game as long as
I Is that a topical? No, they do make topicals. Okay,
I've seen the topical all right. I don't know. They make a lot
of stuff and they have from the early caregiver days. Maybe that's why,
because I've seen it, I've had it for some reason, Like that's why
I was like when you said fire and nice, I'm like, man,
I haven't seen that in a minute, but you spark something there. Okay,
Well, shout out that's cool. Yep. They're licensed facility now.
They have grow in processing out in Hastening Smiths. Again, they do excellent
work. M They have been able to capture the real essence of all of
our strains and get it into a disposable live bres and car. I wish
I would have brought some of those for you today, but at this exact
moment, we are sold out of them. It's not a bad problem to
have. There's other there's worse problems to have. But we have more coming
very soon, and we have some more new flavors that we've added to the
lineup in live bres and flavors. We have our our signature strain, sugar
Cones. It was a strain that we've just got a lot of really great
feedback on and a lot of consumer demand for us, So we grew a
lot of it in the last year, but we've taken a break from it
at the moment and we won't be re releasing any sugar cones until probably Midsummer.
People are going to get it's a very good smell. What is the
GenEx on this? Because it reminds me of like Grammar sugar cookies, you
know, I mean a lot of forty five um, a lot of it's
a gelatto forty five times ice cream cake. Okay, I can smell the
cake, That's what it was. There's such a sweetness to that, and
it's like it really just so sweet, very good stuff. Man, Citrus
is tasty. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. That that's
UM. So the citrus is sense sense. So citrus astension is a strain.
Yeah, I know, it's a hard it's a little bit hard to
say. Their joint in song to us. We were worked with Send Cannabis
on this one. UM. We were given UH some seed from a employee
at Ascend and UM there was sort of some pretty good history between UM,
him and I and UH friendship and growing together and trading grow advice and genetics
for years and years and another one of the managers of one of the Ascend
stores, UM was also very into the idea of doing a collaboration with us
so that we could have, you know, a unique strain that would only
be UM at a Sun stores. It's very citrus turf. I would say,
oh yeah, oh yeah yeah, greape fruit to orange with UM hints
of skunk and pine. Definitely some great that it's tinier as it goes.
And I've noticed that this specific pheno likes to change as you like. The
beginning of the dubie doesn't taste anything like the end of the dubie. It's
kind of one of those like varies a little bit. Well, I mean
that makes sense because when it resonates, maybe it changes like the really must
be moving. Uh what, it has a nice oil drift over. Do
you see what I'm saying that at first it kind of tastes like an orange
chapstick, and now it's starting to taste like, well, you're right though,
the great the orange grapefruit. The smell is a little bit more on
the piney side right now. But yeah, it starts off with very nice
citrus tasting. But you're dead on with the smell though, that grapey grape
fruit skunk you're skunk type of vibe. Yeah, it's nice, man,
man, I just dead Yeah, it'll see the love in your planets.
It'll be at it all ascends stores. Hopefully they'll have it on the shelves
buy four twenty um, we're I know that there. They'll probably try their
best. I know that I'll get it over to them as soon as possible.
But um, we were sort of trying to beat the clock on this
one for twenties. If now you're watching it now that maybe it should be
out now, so I'll check it out the local Sun Cannabis to get up
on many. You know, you'd be just like hanging out trying to grow
some weed, and then and four twenty and I was like, where's the
weed? And You're like, oh shit, she need like another month.
I thought it was can we postpone four twenty this year because I got some
fire? It's so close. I show up to the four twenty party with
some little bit wet weed, and I'm always like, fuck, it still
smokes, though you know you said that's all it's fresh though it's fresh.
It's fresh. It's fresh. No, I promise nobody will. It's such
a grower thing, right, there's like dang, I want to full flex
you guys or nobody. Nobody will get fresh wet weed for four twenty.
I promise, yeah, everybody will. It'll be a nice cure on it.
Um. The testing process. Um, everything is just stretched out compared
to what it used to be like when I grew you know, caregiver.
Um. Everything takes me longer, and it's almost like big. It's it's
nice because it forces you to cure longer. You know, every you're waiting,
everything is you're always waiting for this so that you can do this,
and it ends up creating more time of
things just sort of sitting in place, which forces us to put a nice
like two to three week cure on almost everything. And that's really that sweet
spook. Some strains take longer to cure than two to three weeks to get
a really beauty, perfect proper cure, but I like most of the gassy
strains or really turned forward strains, you can get a pretty nice cure pretty
quick. Um, what we're smoking right now is right at the like about
the three week mark. Okay, yeah, well there yeah, um yeah,
yeah, no, I love it. Yeah yeah, just baked,
yeah no, just baked. Yeah, yeah, for sure. On the
show, I we don't reusually count. We just kind of good flavors.
We want to trium and then like dude, I you know, it's like
the jet fuel. I had to I had to try that immediately. Guy.
So it's like you also, we just want to be smoking, you
know what I mean, Like when we like the bud though, we smoke
and like like we notice it too on this Zebra piss too though. That's
That's the one thing I remember very distinctly, is like it's I know,
it's not like the biggest of deals, but like once you get through,
like oh wow, it smells good, it looks good. All that thing.
We're like the ash and your ash was clean and we were like and
it's still clean and like and that's like I don't know if it's the flush
or whatever, but so is his. And like that's one of those one
things that that's why when we we really want to have you on because it's
like really really soft, but like we can stand by. It's good toft
man. Even so when you say flush, um, yeah, there is
even organic umly grown flower still needs what you would call a fly. It's
not really a flush, and I'm just like pouring, like you know,
it's some buggets of well, you know, you're not flooding out the root
zone. You're still giving it the same amount the normal feed water, but
you're just not putting any at any sort of nutrient. You're and we plan
our soil to the longevity and to be able to kind of you want it
to fade, right, You want the plant to fade. You want it
to look like it's fall. You want it to look like it's exhausted all
of its resources and it's ready to drop seed and move on with its you
know, into the afterlife. Right, and then next year they will do
the thing from seeds, right. So, Um, that's a natural process
of finishing up and eating everything and getting rid of all those storage sugars so
that you don't end up with black, chunky smoke and it's harder to pull
through. Yeah, it's just harder to smoke it. You don't want to
sound like a drama it came or whatever, but it makes it easier.
Organics make it a bit easier for us to control the ash because we can
put a set amount of food in there that we know is not enough for
it to live all the way to the end, and then we just you
just start dialing it back, essentially the secret. Oh okay, this is
great information for anny grower. Um. No, you supplement with organic nutrient
right first? You you know that you don't have enough organic soil. We
create our own organic soil anyway. Yeah, we have our own dum mix.
Yeah, we have our own mix that we've created over years of cultivation.
And not the same mix works for every strain UM, so we have
to tune in different mixes for different different needs of Yeah, there's some sense
just very hungry, and some strains don't want anything or they want very specific
something and not any of anything something else, right, and so um,
not all strains like the same crazy you customize your soil per plants, strains
like the same amount of like the same temperature. I mean, so just
and it's not. Yeah, it probably does go down to like where the
genetics that are being displayed, like, um, where they came from in
the world. Right, But you know it's hybrid hybridized so far now that
yeah, you got your strains from all around the world mixed into a lot
of this this cannabis. So you could see things pop up just super random.
Now it's like how us you know, like in America, you know,
it's it's the melting pot is So now you know, I've got you
know, lots of different backgrounds um in my heritage. So I've you know,
popped out with showing lots of traits of lots of different you know,
of my backgrounds. And that's what you see now. So it's really unpredictable.
That's a good metaphor for hybridization. It's fascinating. It's really unpredictable.
So you're gonna get some plants that just love to live and they're just so
they're just they love you. And you have some plants that it's like like
cats, you know what I mean, And you're like, come on,
I still want to still gotta keep you alive. Still gotta keep you alive,
right, you know. But you know you can eventually, for the
most part, figure most of them out, all of them, Like you
know, you play with them a few times, you'll realize, oh,
this is showing me this and I've seen this before. And you know,
it takes them R and D, you know, yeah, at least a
couple two runs, three runs through. Yeah, yeah, first bring us
a new pheno of something. Um. Sometimes I mean, when they're easy,
then they just go for you, right. Yeah. But some of
these, like the older strains, can be some of the more challenging strains.
UM. Early og cushes are very difficult. I mean, depending on
the cut, they can be very difficult to grow and very difficult to clone.
The old old cuts can sometimes take a long time to rout, and
you know, sometimes that's one of the reasons why a lot of these old
genetics were lost was because they got so difficult to root over time of being
cloned over and over and over and over again. I'm not saying there's a
genetic drift, but I'm saying that plants pick up disease or I meantimes they
get a little something happens over time. Unless this og cush always was just
a bit, you know, but I feel like it, I mean,
it makes sense feel like it's gotten worse over time. Not that the genes
have. I'm not saying that it's like changed, you know, at the
at the genetic level, but maybe um over time it's been exposed to things
that it's you know, suffered from. It's like, yeah, you're making
it almost just weaker of a plan just in general, the cellular age of
the plan. You know, this is like a limb that's just been growing,
you know, since the early nineties. It's never been reseated. You
know, it's just still the same cellular tissue. Just keep like you know,
the branch keeps growing. That's all it is. It's this the growing
tip just keeps going. You just keep removing the behind you see, like
the langoliers Stephen King. No, but that makes no, no, no,
that makes I like the picture. And then I mean, maybe it's
not the genetic level that changes, but just over time I mean things get
weaker, right, get it aging. It's it's fascinating because it's it's almost
like keeping a tree that lived for hundreds of hundreds of hundreds of years,
but you it didn't because not like not like visually like you do like a
redwood in like the California right like that is one hundreds of front spears.
I don't know how you're blowing my mind. I never thought about a real
longevity because like, I know that cannabis bond's eyes exist, but I don't
know what what's the oldest cannabis plant Google, We're gonna start with, Oh,
well that stuff like that. Well, I used to do this cannabis
plant living there there there one somewhere that somebody just has preserved. It's like
in a glass dome living I don't know years old, swing in it because
it's so big. It looks like a live oak tree, like like southern
Alabama. Right, he's looking it up right now, there's kids playing and
canlan no see they said that one. They're said that there's a twenty four
hundreds of twenty eight hundred year old cannabis plant remains in a tomb in Jigilely
of Too Torpin of northwest China. Yeah, they keep it going. I
don't know, I don't know about it. Sounds like it's almost just like
in a tomb. I don't know if it's a good growing anyways. But
either way, you know, it's a very fascinating point because like that is
pessentially what cloning is is you're just keeping a plant alive longer. And I've
never thought of that because I mean ever mothers, because then you see the
mother get older, you're bigger. Whatever. Cloning is just a term that
we've picked up and you know, adapted and thrown to like our gardening.
All we we're doing is telling a branch to hormonally produce roots in a spot
so it's convenient for us to keep this plant alive, so we can cut
it and remove it from the plant and then tell the end of the stem
to produce roots in that spot and bam, and we just keep rolling.
Really that's if you think about it, it's just the continuation of one of
the growing tips, and you're just keeping that growing tip alive for years and
years. It's almost like a perpetual stew from like the you know, sixteen
hundreds you know they could keep a stew going rolling for like twenty years.
That that's just how they really did this, And no kind of makes sense.
You were seen this, No, the brewer, the breweries, you're
brewing the soup, perpetual stew. They would eat of it, and like,
you know, you're probably pretty poor and you as long as you kept
the stew at like one hundred and sixty degrees, you could eat off of
it um. So you would just keep adding to it and keep adding to
Oh. I thought you were like kind of like like some type of like
metaphor or like old like reference like that. I was like, damn,
literally, okay, that's the same same way. One hundred and sixty degrees.
That would kill off any bad bacteria and you could just keep this stew
pot rolling for years and years, right because there was no way to preserve.
There was no like fridge back, easier to just go and if you
kept it at one sixty everything would slow cook. It probably tasted pretty weird,
but good enough. And it's right, it was food. Things were
different, this food pot of food to always build eat. We didn't have
a fridge, right, fer so that makes sense. Yeah, and that
I just never looked at cannabis like the ericle. Like again I say cloning,
but just like the aging of cannabis and the aging of a specific genetic.
Yeah, I'm not just like a strain. I'm sure in the mountains
of Nepal there's like this man and he's got, you know, this strain
that was passed down from from family, you know. Yeah, yeah,
I'm sure. I'm just familiar with you know, I've never traveled outside of
the US except for New Mexico. I would love to go and travel the
world and do like the whole strain hunters thing, and you know, it
would it would be enlightening and it would be a lot of fun. But
yeah, I would like to learn more about the history of some of this
stuff because I feel like I get into like a situation like this and I'm
like, I should know more about it. But it's crazy because I'm listening
to you and I feel like you know so much, like because you're like,
oh, well I did I didn't bring up a strain and you're like,
oh, it grows like this and it looks like this. I'm a
you can see it in your eyes that you're seeing it, and like that's
so for someone like me, I can't I remember loving it, but I
can't remember what it tastes like, but you like literally know what it grows
like. So like I guess it's all relative, right, Like there is
some guru out there that may you know, but like it's like talking about
food. If you were like talking like somebody was like, oh yeah,
like a Hamburger, you'd be like you're thinking like, oh yeah, hamburger.
And you see Hamburger right yeah, where they once you've been in contact.
But that's all we do is grow and right right right, you see
them all the time every day, and you know, like you come really
each plant comes very characteristics and then you know, um, Mikey and Derek
are my two growers, shout out, yeah, they're a ma and like,
well, we'll see each other and be like you see the plat you
see the platinum. She's showing some of the same traits that a lot of
forty five had done. And you know, and you'll ever all in tune
with it like that, and it makes it so much easier for us to
um put out quality product if we all are understanding it to that level.
Oh absolutely, I mean the collective mind is more powerful than a singular right.
It's like when you bring everyone's thoughts together and you discuss it, there's
like, yeah, you're learning together. Yeah, and everybody has from each
other. Yeah, every each guy has their own like, um, real
strengths and it really works out really well. Um, everybody has added something
to old school you know that is we couldn't do without too and still produce
the same product. Any shout out to the whole team. But do you
want to shout out to the whole team? For sure? Shout out everyone?
You guys grow some fire product all you every person there does like some
super specialized job that nobody else Is this this theirs? And you're like and
and nobody you wouldn't let anybody else do it? What are you doing?
That's Brad, what are you doing? You know what I mean? Like
it's out everybody knows their place and it's perfect, and it's it's moving.
Team makes you so much more powerful, right at first, it took a
minute. You're like, you think it's going to be like that. You
all run out there and you're so positive and you want to just crush it.
But then you realize that, like every you know, it's what you
didn't expect. You know, we went learning to work with people too in
different ways, and every problem that a grow could have, we had,
you know, from the blues of trying to renovate an old building and then
growing it. You know, our building is by no means a new like
you know, clean steel build. It's been used for many businesses over the
years. I think it was originally a window indoor factory and like the thirties,
so it was a bit of a you know, we had great engineers
and we had um some skilled builders. But even after that, we've still
had all the problems, the leaks, we had a pipe come undone underground
and flood our walls. Jeez. Yeah, we've seen our our air conditioners
because really there's not very many air conditioning units in the world that can do
what we're trying to tell them to do in the Michigan climate. You know,
run it's negative seven outside and we're telling an AC unit sitting outdoor that
it needs to turn on and run all day long. It's like, this
makes no sense. This is not what I would design for. This makes
no sense. So we've seen our units fail and we've had to and when
a unit fails, you know, havoc happen, you know, And so
I mean just here losing power. Having generators as such a must too and
everything out of swing to for the everything and to have a generator for a
facility that has one hundred and twenty thousand lots of grow light. Um,
those are very very expensive generator. I can't immend. So I can only
image we can't um easily have obtain one of those and have or even just
to have a contract to have one on call. It just WoT you know,
Yeah, we couldn't. Those would be big hits. Well, I
mean, shout out to your whole team, man, you shout out to
your partners, to shout out to everyone that puts in because it sounds like
it's definitely a team effort there, Like it is a definitely shout everyone,
well, thank you. Um and I wish I could have everybody here in
this room. They would all be in here too, trying to smoke with
us. Yeah, if you want to shout anyone out, yeah, definitely
right now. Anyone else you want to shout out besides your team that helped
you or along any like any you know, like shout out mom like,
I don't know, I don't know anyone you know, um, absolutely,
uh sure mom, oh no our lab ACT Laboratories cool. They have an
absolutely amazing They provide accurate data that the industry one percent needs. You're a
testing facility. Yes, oh it's interesting because that's I don't think I've heard
of that ACT Labs is out of Lansing. Um they are. Sorry,
sorry, no, I was thinking never mind, no nothing else, it's
okay, no cool, Just I just know I love hearing that people use
the smaller testers because sometimes you see like the bigger ones getting all the markets.
So when you see these like nine, these big ones, I'm like,
hell yeah, when you mean good labs, yeah, and then you
mean PSI or PETE, okay, is ever a big one? I don't
know whatever. I would say that the big theme was the big one I
was thinking of. I would say that Verness is probably just everybody else.
It's kind of I think there's one more can cambium. That's oh, that's
it's okay. I'm sorry, I think kind of that's you know. I
would say popular because of um, uh, there do a lot of tests
pass just terpians. I think they were trying to work on flavonoids and other
things, and so a lot of the concentrate companies were flocking to them,
and the people I don't know. I love the ACT act at Labs.
Hell yeah, they're a multi state operator. They came to Michigan I think
the year before we were licensed, and um, we were approached by one
of their salespeople and she's just been absolutely amazing. All the customer service.
Um, everything at act Labs is just tight and done properly, and I
know that I'm going to get accurate results and within four days every single time,
like clockwork. We did do pretty well at the Michigan Marijuana Report.
Um, they do their annual conference. Remember the magazine, Oh yeah,
this was I used to take them home a yeah, yeah they still they
still do their um thing. Sugar cones one first place, Sativa UM,
the sugar cones, live resin pen one second place, uh um concentrate UM
cartridges. I think that it wasn't any like we lost to a live rasin.
So it wasn't like really wasn't any concentrate in a in a car?
Interesting, right, they didn't separate it solvent solvent but because still I was
still super happy with that. That's awesome. Congratulations on them. Yeah,
and then we had a couple other wins, a third place hybrid and um
oh second place pre roll nice yeah for the jet field pope, Oh my
god, I see yeah, I love that stuff. Man Tasty. Definitely
enjoyed that. Um, that was the first time we had ever won anything.
We've competed quite a few times though, now, Um, just keep
keep trying. It's fine. I mean, I don't got some winds on
your belt. They're fun, they're fun. I like to see what's uh,
what's out there, and it's a good chance to see, um,
what the consumers are into. Yeah, it's true, see what people are
really digging. That's a good point. Yeah, and seeing how you measure
up to the market. Right, everybody wants to know, you know,
like give yourself some sorts. Good for yourself to know. I mean you
gotta you gotta know where you're at. I mean, yeah, not that
I need to enter more myself. Yeah, Dave entered his first one,
right, got third place for the weed we smoked earlier. Yeah, the
organic cup. It was always kind of like I lost that one. Yeah,
yeah, as um oh no, no, no, no, no,
no, no no. It was the one before that. What was
it? Because you know Judge Strains. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Judge
Strains came and picked up a strain for one of the cups. Was it
was? It was the Big Cloud? Was it Big Cloud? I don't
know cup they did if they do a few in the summer. He came
and picked it up. I can't remember the actual cup. Like I said,
I've just been anytime. Sounds like you've been entering. Yeah, hell
yeah, keep it alive. I got a competition. I'm like, oh
here, yeah, it's a chance. Um. Although we did, um,
we stay out of High We stayed out of High Times this year.
Um, well last year it was crazy. Nothing against High Times, nothing
against the competition at all. Um. We just didn't feel prepared or ready
for it. Well, it's a lot of product too. We a lot
of product, Wasn't it like a lot? When dn K was telling us
there's a lot. I mean, all of these competitions, especially when they
have a box, it's going to take a decent amount of products, because
you gotta it's gonna be a people's choice and the only way to get all
the people to do a people's choice. That makes sense. Could you need
a lot of so it can be you know, not a bit taxing on
our inventory, especially as a small company. Um yeah, first, you
know, our smaller productivity. It can it definitely feels like more to us
to just like, oh, here's a pound for our competition. We're like,
damn, it's yeah, I understand you're not. Yeah, yeah,
we're like, you know, we're some coming. You know. They were
like you know, they probably like, um, when there's leaks, they
like push pounds up against the wall. So any buckets we got some trim
yeah exactly, And I know that I um, but keeps you, it
keeps healthy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, well well we gotta keep doing
it. We gets your name, gets your name out there, gets people
to try it. That's how that's how we found you. We got you.
Sometimes, Jake, especially with Dispenser, you fall in your routine and
where you go because it's it's it's comfortable, right, it's easy, like
you're on the same path. You don't always go to a different despos so
you don't always see every strain right correct, every company market It's like,
you know, how do you guys stand out when winning these competitions, doing
your all organic method, doing these retro lines, coming out with newer school
genetics like the Citrus ascension, like coming out all this is like bringing so
much demand probably to your guys's product. Plus for us to ret our old
school strains. I love that well thing. Yeah, I think that's sick.
I haven't seen anything like that, And we were talking about that like
last year. We thought we were gonna see more retro strains. But they
hear that you guys are bringing that. I'm like my eyes going to be
peeled on the dispose that you mentioned. I'm gonna to get nice. I'm
gonna try to get a nice spread across the state so that um, we
people feel like they all can get a chance because it's gonna it's so hard
when you got twelve, thirteen, fourteen strains to try to grow enough of
each strained to spread it around. Maybe we do need to focus a little
bit more on, you know, certain heavy hitters. But I need the
variety in my life. And I mean hopefully when when we do drop these,
everybody gets a chance to go and find something. We'll do our best
to get it everywhere though all over the state. We're like you said,
we that's why we're happy with the competitions. We get to find you.
But like you said, uh where else can we find you? Besides Quality
Roots? Just a week everyone remembers, oh, Quality Roots, GLH,
Local Roots, Lanesburg up Cannabis, flint Um, all ascend locations. There
we go, there we go. M just want to make sure they know
because like this stuff is fire. Thank you. I really enjoyed it.
And I see your passion in your eyes for your plans due and that's huge
because you know a lot of times you're you're seeing a lot of bigger players
come. So there's still players. Like you said, there's three owners,
right, you and two others that started this thing. Now only ten more
employees after that. So it's like it's still very small, it's all and
we we want to we want to keep it that way, um, so
that we can just like brewing beer, you know, every time the brewery
produces more beer, do you see a quality the quality keeps? You know,
getting small batch is important. You know, we're just gonna keep going.
Yeah, one little room at a time. You want to ask your
final question, let you ask? Oh, all right, so we always
ask this, uh last question. It's kind of like a fun question.
Um, Dave made it up since the first one we've been asked. It
is straight up fun. You can take as long as you need to think
about it, essentially. Okay, So imagine you're going to open an eighth
right, open your eighth boom, and a cannabis genie comes out right and
you're like, oh, snap, Genie, this is really clever. I
sell it. We do. Yeah, I know, but cannais Genie comes
out and you in the campastry says I would grant you one wish for the
campas industry. What would that one wish be? Because we have so many
things with safe banking to criminalization and you know, people can't find strange,
Like there's so many things that are like hard right in the industry. So
any one thing, oh man, yeah, see I know an it always
is. That's like I feel likes America right world hunger. Um. I
think that if I couldn't make anyone change, it would be um you know
or did you say change or anyone any one wish for the industry? Yeah,
any industry. Yeah, I like that, Like that's probably a better
way to say, Yeah, one wish an industry just you know, people
put out quality product that they can take pride into. I nobody wants.
I don't think it's fair to put out a bun to put product onto the
market that you wouldn't consume personally, because you know that it wasn't grown with
the love that deserved right, and you know that you might have used some
search shady practices, and you might have cutt in some corners, and um,
you even know that there might even be some hazards or some you know,
you're just not putting out there's so much of it out there. Yeah,
you're just selling stuff to make money, and you're not really putting that
love into it. Like I see the love you putting in. There's a
lot of there's I could smell it. There's a good twenty there's a good
twenty brands in the state that that are putting that passion into it. And
all you guys that are doing that, keep doing it. And we're going
to keep doing it with you guys, and we're going to keep the Michigan
market top notch. And that's that's what I would wish for the Michigan market.
I'd wish for it to lead the cannabis industry in the nation, to
show everybody what real qual we stand up to. Kelly, I don't care
what anyone says. Yeah, yeah, I UM took a trip out to
La not too long ago, and UM, I took weed with me on
the plane because I even even though California, even though California has weed,
I needed to bring my weed with me, right, And I'm so glad
that I did. Yeah. So, I mean, if you go to
a dispo in California, maybe I'm sure that I've had some boo boos and
I've had some good bud like the same same thing as Michigan. It's the
same as Michigan. And it's you win some and you lose something. But
I typically lost out there. I feel you. Yeah, yeah, we
got some anywhere I go. I still want to look. I want to
see what Vegas we tried. It was just love. It was dry out
there. Yeah, the arid climate. Oh my god, it's so dry
everything. Yeah. And I don't do Beavita packs like I'm more like the
humid or type person who take a whole room and do complete climate control on
it and then you you know, it's like day with the six cigars.
It's exactly I mean, this should be this should be treated like a cigar,
but then aaratype, which I mean some cigars you know are kept jaratyp
Yeah yeah yeah, no similar stuff, dude, And thank you Jason,
the whole team. Yes, Old School Organics man, you guys love your
product. Can't wait to smoke at all. Yeah. Um, thanks everybody
at Old School Organics. Hell and thanks everybody that's helped us out along the
way. Thank you guys for having us. Anytime you guys ever want to
come and hang out, you're more than welcome. Hell yeah, we definitely
will. Old School Organics Old School Organics for twenty check them out on ig
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Yes, yeah, very excited. Thank you Jason and UH. As always,
we're here to advocate