WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.120 --> 00:00:05.240 You're twenty twenty four election headquarters. Our country's just falling apart and we need 2 00:00:05.360 --> 00:00:13.119 a major change. Fifty five KRZ the Talk Station. It's EtOH six, 3 00:00:13.199 --> 00:00:17.800 fifty five KRCY Talk Station. Brian Thomas wishing a very happy Wednesday and happy 4 00:00:17.800 --> 00:00:22.960 to welcome to the fifty five Carssee Morning Show. Award winning author Rick Robinson, 5 00:00:23.000 --> 00:00:26.920 He's authored of a dozen top selling books and multiple genres, political thrillers 6 00:00:27.039 --> 00:00:31.199 and literary novels, Coming of Age, Guidance for Folks who didn't number one 7 00:00:31.239 --> 00:00:35.920 Amazon top seller, and humor, often placing numerous books on Amazon top soloists 8 00:00:35.960 --> 00:00:39.920 at the exact same time. His political and pop culture columns appeared in numerous 9 00:00:39.920 --> 00:00:44.759 political publications, including The Daily Caller, Rare Reason, MKY Magazine, River 10 00:00:44.880 --> 00:00:48.200 City News Link. I could go on, including the North Kentucky Tribune. 11 00:00:48.399 --> 00:00:51.359 Welcome to the fifty five KRC Morning You shot to talk about his book nineteen 12 00:00:51.560 --> 00:00:55.159 sixty eight, premier for Understanding Baby Boomers, Rick Robinson, It's great to 13 00:00:55.159 --> 00:00:58.280 have you on the fifty five KARSE Morning Show this morning. Hey Brian, 14 00:00:58.359 --> 00:01:02.799 great, great to hear here from you, and I'm hearing the beautiful confines 15 00:01:02.840 --> 00:01:07.519 of New Mexico in the Albuquerque Airport. Maybe the first interview you've ever done 16 00:01:07.599 --> 00:01:12.200 the company by Muzac. There we go. It is a first. I 17 00:01:12.239 --> 00:01:17.640 hope you are not having to deal with crowdstrikes, lasting issues for delayed flights, 18 00:01:17.719 --> 00:01:19.959 Rick and safe travels to you. It is amazing, Brian. But 19 00:01:21.040 --> 00:01:25.120 it is still happening. Oh no, happening today. Oh no. Well 20 00:01:25.159 --> 00:01:29.239 we'll have I heeart media aviation expert Jay Ratliffe on Thursday to talk about that 21 00:01:30.040 --> 00:01:33.840 rack. Nineteen sixty eight a really, really pivotal year for United States. 22 00:01:34.040 --> 00:01:37.319 I mean I immediately gravitate to gravitate to the nineteen sixty eight convention, of 23 00:01:37.319 --> 00:01:42.280 course, because it was a major league disaster for the Democrats, police and 24 00:01:42.359 --> 00:01:49.040 riot gears skulls getting crack protesters everywhere. But your book is I guess described 25 00:01:49.040 --> 00:01:52.200 as a deep dive into the whole entire year. You do it month by 26 00:01:52.280 --> 00:01:56.680 month, correct, do it month by month, But it is pivotal to 27 00:01:56.680 --> 00:02:00.760 take a look at what's going on right now Brian, and understand and the 28 00:02:00.840 --> 00:02:05.439 similarities that are going on between what you just mentioned the Democratic Convention in nineteen 29 00:02:05.480 --> 00:02:10.919 sixty eight in Chicago as it will be again and what's happening now because you're 30 00:02:10.960 --> 00:02:17.039 looking at a convention. We're outside the convention. The people were chanting, 31 00:02:17.360 --> 00:02:23.560 as you said, Hedberg getting batched in Chicago and people were standing outside shouting 32 00:02:23.560 --> 00:02:27.439 the whole world's watching. I'm wondering this year whether or not the whole world 33 00:02:27.439 --> 00:02:30.759 will be watching, or the whole world will be searching Netflix to see what's 34 00:02:30.800 --> 00:02:35.879 on besides the convention. You know, that's a really valid point because one 35 00:02:35.879 --> 00:02:38.759 of the points I wrote down on my notes that ween talking to talk with 36 00:02:38.840 --> 00:02:44.439 you. We live in a completely different universe in nineteen sixty eight. If 37 00:02:44.439 --> 00:02:47.360 for no other reason, then we've got the Internet. And I say that 38 00:02:47.439 --> 00:02:53.520 because organizing people in nineteen sixty eight required you know, mailing and flyers and 39 00:02:53.599 --> 00:02:58.800 the normal kind of pre Internet outreach that you think of making telephone call. 40 00:02:58.919 --> 00:03:01.439 So if you remember the free speech movement, the Students for Democrat Society, 41 00:03:01.599 --> 00:03:05.800 or Vietna anti Vietnam groups of ones for another, if you want your people 42 00:03:05.800 --> 00:03:07.800 to show up at a convention, you're going to have to reach out to 43 00:03:07.840 --> 00:03:08.639 him, let him know where to be, when to be. But you 44 00:03:08.719 --> 00:03:13.240 have to do it manually. Now you can do a blast text to the 45 00:03:13.360 --> 00:03:19.520 entire world, and you can communicate with the entire world instantaneously. It's going 46 00:03:19.599 --> 00:03:23.240 to be interesting to see if that actually happens in Chicago this time, because 47 00:03:23.280 --> 00:03:30.520 there are still lingering issues very similar to nineteen sixty eight that can could galvanize 48 00:03:30.560 --> 00:03:37.879 people to come to the convention, not the least of which you know. 49 00:03:38.520 --> 00:03:44.599 Linda Johnson got out of the presidential race in nineteen sixty eight for numerous reasons, 50 00:03:44.639 --> 00:03:49.039 however, the most important one being his party not liking the way he 51 00:03:49.159 --> 00:03:54.439 was handling the Vietnam War. But you have a very similar situation happening right 52 00:03:54.439 --> 00:04:00.680 here, as the Democratic Party is split on how President bit has handled Gaja. 53 00:04:01.560 --> 00:04:05.000 We have a very big wing of the Democratic Party that is pro Palestinian. 54 00:04:05.919 --> 00:04:09.439 You have, you know, I don't know if it's split down the 55 00:04:09.439 --> 00:04:15.520 middle, but there is certainly a pro Israel pulp pro Palestine divide in the 56 00:04:15.520 --> 00:04:18.920 Democratic Party. Will that lead to any student protest outside hard to tell you. 57 00:04:20.160 --> 00:04:24.839 Well, it sounds likely that it will. But again taking the wind 58 00:04:24.879 --> 00:04:30.879 out of the protesters' sales, Lyndon Johnson I choose not to accept the denomination 59 00:04:30.000 --> 00:04:34.079 of the party. It turned into an open convention, so there was a 60 00:04:34.199 --> 00:04:38.920 legitimate, at least on its face, a legitimate reason to get out there 61 00:04:38.959 --> 00:04:42.480 and make an argument for your side of the case. If you're anti Vietnam, 62 00:04:42.519 --> 00:04:46.240 you're going to be in favor of an anti Vietnam candidate on the other 63 00:04:46.279 --> 00:04:47.360 side of the legend, And there may have been a pro Vietnam candidate, 64 00:04:47.399 --> 00:04:51.279 and they obviously there's something to buy a debate and fight about. Kamala Harris 65 00:04:51.279 --> 00:04:56.279 has been anointed. And if things continue down this path, and the screams 66 00:04:56.319 --> 00:04:59.920 and cries of even among folks like Black Lives Matter, who are very upset 67 00:05:00.120 --> 00:05:03.160 with the process, but you're going in with Kamala Harris as the nominee. 68 00:05:03.199 --> 00:05:05.720 The delegates have already said, we're in favor of her. She's got enough. 69 00:05:05.720 --> 00:05:09.000 She's got twenty nine hundred of them as of yesterday, which is enough 70 00:05:09.040 --> 00:05:12.680 to secure the nomination. So she's effectively taken the wind out of the open 71 00:05:12.839 --> 00:05:18.199 convention sales, leading really to nothing to protest about. Perhaps well, one 72 00:05:18.240 --> 00:05:24.680 of the things to remember here, Brian, is that Hubert Humphrey and Kamala 73 00:05:24.759 --> 00:05:29.839 Harris have one very important thing in common, and that is neither of them 74 00:05:30.240 --> 00:05:36.759 want a primary Now Humphrey went into the process with a whole bunch of delegates, 75 00:05:38.240 --> 00:05:43.959 but all of those delegates were through the old coronation process of the party's 76 00:05:44.120 --> 00:05:48.959 Republicans of them press both where they would have caucuses as opposed to primaries to 77 00:05:49.079 --> 00:05:55.439 determine delegate accounts. Humphrey, because of it being the old party rule, 78 00:05:56.279 --> 00:06:02.360 got his delegates by going to conventions and caucuses and closed doored, smoke filled 79 00:06:02.399 --> 00:06:10.160 rooms. He did not win a single not a single primary needed at Harris. 80 00:06:10.519 --> 00:06:13.360 Now, the interesting thing is both parties are. The one thing that 81 00:06:13.399 --> 00:06:18.959 ties it together to is in sixty eight and in twenty four, both candidates 82 00:06:18.959 --> 00:06:26.800 both parties have to deal with some guy named Robert Kennedy. In sixty eight 83 00:06:26.879 --> 00:06:31.160 it was the convention was the ghost of Robert Kennedy and where the anti war 84 00:06:31.279 --> 00:06:36.600 movement went. And this time it's with Robert Kennedy Junior, and where the 85 00:06:36.680 --> 00:06:44.199 anti vax movement goes. Ah see anti vaxx movement. I don't didn't ever 86 00:06:44.279 --> 00:06:46.800 perceive it as being that large in terms of a movement like that's going to 87 00:06:46.839 --> 00:06:49.199 get people off the couch. You know, Robert F. Kennedy and his 88 00:06:49.279 --> 00:06:54.439 being anti vax do you think there's going to be a contingent of anti vax 89 00:06:54.439 --> 00:07:00.439 folks in Chicago this year. I think Robert Kennedy Junior pulls t well from 90 00:07:00.480 --> 00:07:06.000 both sides of the aisle and pulls them into this personal privacy state that both 91 00:07:06.079 --> 00:07:11.839 parties have an interest in. And I think whether it's ten percent, whether 92 00:07:11.879 --> 00:07:15.040 it's fifteen percent, when you get down to the bottom of it, is 93 00:07:15.079 --> 00:07:18.319 still going to have an impact, huh. And that's because people are more 94 00:07:18.319 --> 00:07:23.199 in favor of Robert of Kennedy gener than they are of Kamala Harris from maybe 95 00:07:23.199 --> 00:07:28.160 Donald Trump. But he's not going to be on the ballot anywhere is he 96 00:07:27.680 --> 00:07:32.079 He is on several ballots as in several of the states. And that's one 97 00:07:32.120 --> 00:07:38.959 of the big differences between sixty eight and twenty four is that in sixty eight 98 00:07:39.040 --> 00:07:45.600 you had a third party candidate in George Wallace. But George Wallace actually had 99 00:07:46.240 --> 00:07:51.120 a strategy to try and win the presidency. Wallace's strategy was hope, hoping 100 00:07:51.160 --> 00:07:57.399 that all of the segregationist Democrats who were very, very pissed off at Linda 101 00:07:57.480 --> 00:08:01.480 Johnson for the Civil Rights Act in the Fair House, that they would vote 102 00:08:01.519 --> 00:08:05.279 for him and that he would get enough delegates to be able to throw it 103 00:08:05.399 --> 00:08:11.680 into the House of Representatives where the anti segregationist Democrats would throw it them to 104 00:08:11.800 --> 00:08:16.319 Wallace to be president. Now, the one thing that happened in that case 105 00:08:16.560 --> 00:08:22.600 was that Wallace's own ego kept him from doing that because he thought he could 106 00:08:22.600 --> 00:08:26.360 win the country. But you look at Robert Kennedy. He's only on ballot 107 00:08:26.399 --> 00:08:31.639 in a couple of a handful of states, yea, And he really doesn't 108 00:08:31.680 --> 00:08:35.639 have a plan to become president, just a plan to become a thorn in 109 00:08:35.720 --> 00:08:39.120 the side. Well, that may be his best role, at least as 110 00:08:39.120 --> 00:08:45.320 of right now. It's relegated to that role. Apparently there are some discussions 111 00:08:45.360 --> 00:08:50.799 going on between he and the Trump campaign as to whether or not there is 112 00:08:50.840 --> 00:08:54.720 a place for him in the Trump administration. Well, I guess do you 113 00:08:54.799 --> 00:08:58.759 think that many in the Democrats would be that he would be the secretary of 114 00:09:00.360 --> 00:09:07.200 brain eating worms? Fair enough? Rick is known for his humor, by 115 00:09:07.240 --> 00:09:09.320 the way, folks and read his books. Well, what of Kamala Harris? 116 00:09:09.360 --> 00:09:11.799 Though? Do you think there are many within the Democrat Party? Again, 117 00:09:11.960 --> 00:09:15.679 I looked up and point to the Black Lives Matter posts, and they 118 00:09:15.679 --> 00:09:20.879 are really irked at this coronation of Kamala Harris. They want a democratic process. 119 00:09:20.919 --> 00:09:24.679 They tell you the Democratic Party they look like a party of hypocrites. 120 00:09:24.879 --> 00:09:28.159 Do you think there are many within Democrat camp who feel that way about this 121 00:09:28.440 --> 00:09:33.639 railroad job that we seem to be facing right now. Again, I would 122 00:09:33.720 --> 00:09:37.559 point to history if you take a look at when in sixty eight they went 123 00:09:37.600 --> 00:09:43.360 through a democratic process but still coronated at Hubert Humphrey, yeah, the vice 124 00:09:43.440 --> 00:09:48.799 president, to become the nominee. They came out of convention with no chance 125 00:09:48.039 --> 00:09:54.639 whatsoever for Hubert Humphort to be President of the United States. None. It 126 00:09:54.679 --> 00:10:01.039 was in such disarray, such disarray that in sixty eight they chase the rules 127 00:10:01.200 --> 00:10:05.720 of the convention to what is very similar to what is taking place right now. 128 00:10:05.519 --> 00:10:11.200 And I think the Democrats the only chance for having a chance is to 129 00:10:11.279 --> 00:10:18.679 go into convention with a candidate and move forward that way. Would a lot 130 00:10:18.720 --> 00:10:20.919 of the Democrats like to see a democratic process, I believe they would. 131 00:10:22.759 --> 00:10:24.919 But the fact of the matter is, if you get into a floor floor 132 00:10:26.039 --> 00:10:30.039 fight and you showed disarray, you're going to have another nineteen sixty eight a 133 00:10:30.080 --> 00:10:35.519 Cuber concert coming out and not having a chance in a blue state to win 134 00:10:35.240 --> 00:10:39.240 well. And I guess the larger looming question is can Kamala Harris run on 135 00:10:39.279 --> 00:10:43.639 her well on her policies. She has a record that we can all point 136 00:10:43.639 --> 00:10:48.279 to, and she was previously identified as the most liberal senator that was elected, 137 00:10:48.320 --> 00:10:52.720 I mean, and a whole slew of very very left leaning, large 138 00:10:52.720 --> 00:10:56.879 social programs that cost literally billions, if not trillions of dollars. I mean, 139 00:10:56.919 --> 00:10:58.320 that's her record, That's who she is as a candidate. I'm just 140 00:10:58.360 --> 00:11:05.240 wondering whether theater population can abide this continued further further left wing shift in the 141 00:11:05.240 --> 00:11:11.080 country. You're You're exactly on point, Brian, in that I think, 142 00:11:11.919 --> 00:11:18.799 much like nineteen sixty eight, this is going to go much more toward policies 143 00:11:18.960 --> 00:11:22.639 than personalities. Let's say say it, if Richard Nixon would have had to 144 00:11:22.679 --> 00:11:26.519 run on his personality, he would have ended up like he did in the 145 00:11:26.600 --> 00:11:31.519 rate for governor and us not having him to kick around anymore. Understood, 146 00:11:31.600 --> 00:11:35.600 But it went to policies against Humphrey, who you know. I thought it 147 00:11:35.639 --> 00:11:39.879 was interesting at the time and going back and doing the research, Humphrey actually 148 00:11:39.960 --> 00:11:43.440 didn't even have the support of the progressive side of his party. They didn't 149 00:11:43.440 --> 00:11:48.159 think he was liberal enough. Yeah, and which is interesting because at the 150 00:11:48.200 --> 00:11:50.159 time I thought you were very humphy were probably the most liberal person that had 151 00:11:50.159 --> 00:11:56.240 ever been nominated for president. And that is you know, leads you to 152 00:11:56.279 --> 00:12:01.320 a position of going, you know, you're right, this could be more 153 00:12:01.360 --> 00:12:05.639 about policy than a personality. Well, the cutoff for baby boomers is nineteen 154 00:12:05.679 --> 00:12:09.039 sixty four, which means they were four years old the youngest of them in 155 00:12:09.120 --> 00:12:13.440 nineteen sixty eight for the convention. We have a different landscape now. The 156 00:12:13.480 --> 00:12:16.200 youngest of the baby boomers are now turning sixty this year, getting closer to 157 00:12:16.279 --> 00:12:20.799 retirement. As we move forward, this huge bubble of baby boomers and their 158 00:12:20.840 --> 00:12:24.879 aging population, how do you think that's going to impact the election? Because 159 00:12:24.279 --> 00:12:28.279 I know social security is a real problem for America generally, and people who 160 00:12:28.279 --> 00:12:31.480 are on Social Security don't want any of it cut in any way, shape 161 00:12:31.519 --> 00:12:35.600 or form. So that represents a sizeable voting block in so far as that 162 00:12:35.600 --> 00:12:41.559 one issue is concerned. Absolutely, the number one issue is going to be 163 00:12:41.559 --> 00:12:46.279 the election. We you and I need more handicapped lines at the voting booths 164 00:12:46.000 --> 00:12:50.879 because we're all going to be going there in walkers and wheelchairs, all of 165 00:12:50.879 --> 00:12:54.639 those zimmers. But the thing that will be happening is you're right, the 166 00:12:54.679 --> 00:12:58.919 whole idea of if you're going to cut spending, you have to cut in 167 00:13:00.080 --> 00:13:03.559 titlements. Oh you know what, I'm a lot less for that now that 168 00:13:03.679 --> 00:13:07.840 I'm in title and age. Yeah, And I was when I who was 169 00:13:07.879 --> 00:13:11.000 twenty five. Yeah, my mom is sixty or eighty four, and she 170 00:13:11.080 --> 00:13:15.840 sees the writing on the at least she perceives the demise of our country down 171 00:13:15.840 --> 00:13:18.039 the road because of the direction we're going, and she's like, well, 172 00:13:18.039 --> 00:13:20.559 at least I won't be around to live through it. And I think that's 173 00:13:20.559 --> 00:13:22.279 the attitude of a lot of baby boomers in so far as social security is 174 00:13:22.320 --> 00:13:30.080 concerned. Yeah, Barry Goldwater wrote the Coming Breakpoint, and it might have 175 00:13:30.159 --> 00:13:35.000 been around sixty eight where she projected that cecial security was donnotate, it could 176 00:13:35.000 --> 00:13:41.759 not be maintained throughout the history of the country. And it turns out he 177 00:13:41.879 --> 00:13:43.559 was right. Of course, there's never been any change to it, never, 178 00:13:45.039 --> 00:13:48.080 and only confirmed over and over and over again with every CBO report on 179 00:13:48.159 --> 00:13:54.799 the status of social security since his observations way back in sixty eight. Rick 180 00:13:54.879 --> 00:13:56.799 Robinson, author of the book nineteen sixty eight, A Primer for Understanding baby 181 00:13:56.840 --> 00:14:00.360 Boomers. Thanks for joining the program. Rick, It's always great having you 182 00:14:00.399 --> 00:14:05.639 on and I'll wish you very safe travels and on time travels. Well, 183 00:14:05.320 --> 00:14:09.159 we'll wait and see and I'll text you and see if I make it on 184 00:14:09.240 --> 00:14:11.559 the next flight. About that, that'd be great. Good luck to that. 185 00:14:11.720 --> 00:14:15.200 Rick. Your book is online at fifty five cars dot com on my 186 00:14:15.279 --> 00:14:16.159 blog page, so folks can get a copy of it, and I will 187 00:14:16.200 --> 00:14:20.440 definitely encourage them to do that. Really enjoy reading that book. Take care 188 00:14:20.480 --> 00:14:24.279 of Rick eight twenty fifty five KRCD talk Station twenty How about twenty two three 189 00:14:24.399 --> 00:14:26.639 Route forty two between Mason and eleven. You can find them on line at 190 00:14:26.679 --> 00:14:28.120 twenty two three dot com. The number twenty two thove by the word three 191 00:14:28.120 --> 00:14:31.360 spelled out. 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