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Joe, welcome back to the show,

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buddy. Hey guys, it's great
to be with you. Good, that's

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The NFL is in kind of a lull

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here right now, but well that
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up. We have a big charity
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down now, and it's just that
we're I believe, just nine Sundays away

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from from week number one. I
like that. I like that. That

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sounds better than fifty eight days.
I like that night. We can handle

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line Sundays, right, we can
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the Fantasy points world. Joe,
we are a big question of the day

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today. We've got to ask its
a horrible question, in a big gay,

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in a big game setting, who
would you take if you had to

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take one of these guys Dak Prescott
or Kirk Cousins. Right now, Prescott,

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there you go out a boy.
I like it, like at that.

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You know, it's hard, it's
hard to separate. It's just like

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I've at least seen Prescott play in
big games. Uh right, yeah,

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I mean he's lost them, but
I've seen but I've seen him play in

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them. So no, I would
take I would take Prescott over Cousins,

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you know, But I mean,
I I think they're two sides are the

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same point. And in my in
my industry, I'm I'm fine with those

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guys, Like yeah, Target,
Seedy Lamb one hundred and eighty times,

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please do. I mean, like
that's what I want to see Target justin

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Jefferson one hundred and fifty times Target. I think Fisher would be Drake London

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and Kyle Pitt with all of those
guys. But no, I would take

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Prescott just because I've seen him play
in those big games and I feel like

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I trust him a little more.
Cousins. You know, any given week,

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you can see those guys kind of
carve up an NFL team, but

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you've also seen the brutal mistakes and
the one thing I know, I'm not

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exactly making the cakes for my guy
here that I I mean, it's it's

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it's a mid off we're having here. Let's be honest. But you know

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you'll see somebody like there. There
are there are people on Twitter and in

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the discourse who are big Dak Prescott
fenders who would argue that Dak Prescott gets

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an overload of hate simply because he's
the Cowboys quarterback. And I think we

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saw that with Tony Romo, and
I think there's an element of truth to

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that. But one of the arguments
that was made was Dak Prescott wasn't the

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reason they lost that game to the
to the Packers. You know, he

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threw for four hundred and three touchdowns
fourth fall, they grew for four hundred

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three touchdowns, they probably would have
won the game. He threw for four

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d and pretty yards and three touchdowns. Get what a load of bs that

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is? They were behind from the
opening kickoff because he turned the ball over

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like three times in the first quarter, Like you can't turn it over?

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It picked six out of you can't
you just yeah, and it's empty calories

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at that point. That's a great
point. And when you look at the

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aggregate stats, which I did a
couple of weeks ago. You get to

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factor that in that you know,
hey, his his numbers are better than

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Aikman, better than Romo in the
playoffs. But again you're not factoring in

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situational numbers, which comes into play. Yeah, and if you look at

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the with the exception of a guy
like Marino, if you look at the

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early nineties or eighty stats, they're
just not going to stack up with the

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guys of today's today's NFL. I
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was you know, you're playing mad
An NFL and a quarterback has a one

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hundred passer rating. You think that
guy is Joe Montana on top of Dan

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Marino, on top of of you
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Now, if you don't have one
hundred pass rating your garment, it's just,

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you know, the stats have changed
so much that you can't it's so

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hard to compare Troy Aikman to Dak
Prescott because undoubtedly Dak Krescott has way better

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numbers than Troy Aikman. But after
cowboy fan, who is the better quarterback?

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Joe Dolan. Last time we spoke
on this show, you you made

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the prediction, but this sort of
oh goodness, gross suit. Joe Dolan

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has officially had it with Cowboys talk. He knew another one was coming now.

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He said, get the hell up
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Uh, we got a whole tech
support. We got Joe Dolan back with

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us here. Joe, as as
as we interrupted you, I think that

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was on our end here. I
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Fantasy points dot Com And at the
end of this interview, I want to

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give people a chance to really get
a deep dive into what you're doing out

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there, because it's just fantastic work. But on the Cowboys, you had

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talked to us during our last interview
about Cede Lamb and the possibility that looked

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two hundred targets maybe this year.
Are you standing on business with that?

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Do you still feel like that's where
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and that's about what they've got.
They didn't make any improvements. Yeah,

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you know, like, look,
I don't think Michael Gallop wasn't any good

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last year. The Cowboys. The
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completely misread the wide receiver market two
years ago and gave away Amari Cooper,

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and it was just it was a
dumb move. But two hundred targets for

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Ceedee Lamb, given that the Cowboys
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spot, I mean, they have
this. They have an undrafted kid that

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they've been talking up in training camp. They drafted a receiver by the name

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of Ryan Flornoy in the sixth round. And you know, I'm not going

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to discount the chance that they sat
unearthed a gem, but look like that's

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a low probability back. They picked
up Cavante Topin, who's more of a

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return guy. He's the smallest player
in the NFL. Obviously he's been a

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good returner. But look, just
look, Brandon Cooks is a year older.

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Jalen Tolbert has just they've drafted him
in the third round. A couple

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of years ago. He flashed,
but not more than that. And Seedee

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Lamb led the NFL with one hundred
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so I'm sitting here looking at a
guy who caught one hundred and thirty five

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passes on one hundred and seventy nine
targets. I mean, he caught seventy

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five percent of it of the balls
thrown in his way, which is a

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really high rate, especially for an
outside receiver. But what I mean,

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if we're asking Steedee Lamb to break
the single season reception record, which I

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think he can do. I'm not
betting on that happened, because you've never

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been on anybody to break records.
But you're asking him to catch less than

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one extra pass a game, and
he can do that. He caught one

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hundred and thirty five last year.
Like for fantasy football, we know he's

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a target hound. We know Dak
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He's my number one wide receiver on
the board pretty easily this year,

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Joe, I think I've pretty much
beaten all the Steelers questions into the ground.

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We know that they're going to run
the ball a lot that George Pickens's

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wide receiver one Russ is gonna cook. I want to switch to more of

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like a generalized, I guess fantasy
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So obviously, last year, I
don't think any of us could have predicted

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the way C J. Stroud just
kind of hit the scene and exploded into

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Houston's Texans. Do you see a
team with a rookie quarterback that is maybe

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primed and ready that could make that
same trajectory this year? And a little

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bit of a follow up as far
as c J. Stroud, do you

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think he hits that sophomore slump if
you will, or does he kind of

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continue in the trajectory that we've already
seen him in. Well? J.

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Shroud, but let me answer that
part first. He had arguably the greatest

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rookie season we've ever seen from a
quarterback. If he developed in that in

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that way, he might be the
best quarterback in the NFL by year three.

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I don't know if that's gonna happen. I just was very impressed with

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him and they You know, the
thing about the thing about the Texans is

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their supporting cast was way better last
year than I think we could have anticipated.

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Nico Collins was one of those players
who had kind of flashed, but

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not more than that. And then
Tank Dell was a revelation as a rookie

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so and their offensive line was a
little better. So, look, Stroud

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is getting drafted. He's kind of
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I think he's getting drafted close to
his feeling for fantasy because he's not

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a runner, He's he's a pocket
passer. So that's the situation. You

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know. Actually, last year I
was drafting Bryce Young a ton because I'm

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like, you know, this kid
was the number one overall pick, and

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what if he's really good? And
it turned out that that fantasy analysis was

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not good. But if I applied
the exact same line of thinking to c

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J. Stroud instead, I would
have looked like a genius because that team.

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So now I'm not I'm sure you
guys on this program have compared Bryce

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Young to c jh Shroud enough.
I'm not going to do that, But

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you asked the question. You asked
the question about rookies this year. It's

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hard to find a perfect analog here
because for a couple of reasons. Number

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one, I don't think Drake May
is going to start week one. They

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have Jacobe Brissett and their entire so
the Patriots entire supporting cast is cheap this

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year, so you can dabble in
that it may blows people away, but

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I don't think he's going to start
week one. This time last year,

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we pretty much knew c J.
Stroud was going to start. Caleb Williams,

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we know he's going to start,
but he's being drafted as if he's

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going to start. He's a top
twelve quarterback off the board, and all

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three of his top wide receivers are
drafted inside the top forty at the position,

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so they're expensive. H The Jade
and Daniels is expensive because I think

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Jade and Daniels floor as a fantasy
actset is Justin Fields, a guy who

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couldn't hit the broad side of a
barn but could run run all around.

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Michael Pennix is not going to play
this year. In a perfect I just

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still can't believe that. I cannot
believe a team, in a perfect scenario

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draft and the player who's not going
to play this year a team that needs

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rible, a team that needs a
lot of things, including pass rush.

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It's a luxury pick. Let's wark
two rolexes, not one. The So

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I guess J. J. McCarthy
is the best bet because McCarthy's got a

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good supporting cast. The issue is
he's probably not going to start Week one.

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They still have been talking about Sam
Garnold, you know, Justin Jefferson.

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They've got Jordan Addison Howkinson's gonna miss
about half the season. But you've

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got two good receivers. They signed
Aaron Jones, who's a really good back.

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Their offensive line is strong. So
the best bets to be this year

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c J Stroud or probably JJ McCarthy. And the forgotten rookie who probably is

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going to start Week one is Bo
Nicks, the six of the six quarterback

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who was drafted and nobody wants the
Broncos and fantasy this year. No,

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what what are we throwing to there? Sutton? Maybe Courtland Sutton? Courtland

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Suton's upset about his contract. The
problem for Courtland Sutton is all these guys

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who got paid this off season are
better than him. Yeah, and the

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Probcos don't want to throw that kind
of money to a guy that who like

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I mean, I guess the closest
conference Sutton is probably his former teammate Jerry

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Judy, who got a lot of
money and never has really been a big

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time receiver. But uh so,
Bo Nicks. If this is a quarterback

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who Sean Payton hand picked and he
can coach him into that offense and have

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him be some sort of Drew Breesian
player, I can see the Broncos taking

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step forward, and all their receivers
are cheap. They have a second year

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receiver by the name of Marvin min
who flash last year but was mostly a

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return man. But if your fantasy
league has return yardage, which is going

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to be very important this year with
a new kickoff rule, yeah you know

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he could, he could, he
could step up. They drafted Troy flank

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Franklin out of Oregon in the fifth
round. Now that he was one of

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those guys. There's always a there's
always a receiver or two, or a

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running back or two who people project
is going to be like a second round

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pick and then he falls to Day
three for whatever reason. He was that

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guy this year. But so the
Broncos are the one team, just like

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the Texans last year, Nobody wanted
the Textans for fantasy. Nobody wants the

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Broncos for fantasy this year. Maybe
that could be the guy. I just

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don't think. I don't think Nicks
is the level of prospect that Stroud was.

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And I even I'm even talking before
we knew what Stroud did. Like,

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I thought Stroud was a better prospect
than Nick, even though I thought

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Bryce Young's is the better prospect.
Of the two. Joe Owens, our

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guest here Fantasy points dot Com.
Joe, give me a quick couple of

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minutes here on the Jacksonville Jaguars their
offense, just from the NFL perspective at

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large, in a fantasy perspective,
what do you make of what happened last

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year and what's your projection moving forward
on this particular group. Yeah, so

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I struggle with Trevor Lawrence because the
tape knowers tell me that Trevor Lawrence is

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great, and Trevor Lawrence, you
know, his offense wasn't helped out,

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you know by the playpong, which
I think is true, and the receivers

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dropped a lot of passes and then
I just don't see the numbers. But

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they paid them, Yeah they do. They paid them like like, and

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I would have paid them too.
Like. I'm not trying to sit in

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here and tell you that Trevor Lawrence
thinks that's not the case. I can

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tell you the biggest problem I have
with Jacksonville Doug Peterson. I'm not trying

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to say he would still be the
coach in Philadelphia, but in twenty twenty,

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after the twenty twenty season, he
would have still been the coach in

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Philamadelphia had he fired Press Taylor the
offensive coordinator. I know that for a

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fact, and he refused to do
it, and that's why they fired Doug.

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The Eagles were more than prepared to
move on from Carson Wentz and not

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Doug Peterson, but they wanted Doug
to make an offensive coordinator change. He

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wouldn't do it. Do you don't
who the offensive coordinator of the Jacksonville Jaguars

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is. There would be one Press
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he Doug's boy. And let me
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him very much. And it's hard
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They lost their number one wide receiver
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rival to Titans. There are team
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think they misused Calvin Ridley for a
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Calvin Ridley's an X receiver. I
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they hadn't Calvin Ridley lined up on
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gobbled up by press coverage. He's
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the line of scrimmage trying to get
separations. So they lost him, but

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they brought in two guys who,
in theory could actually beat Exus. They

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signed Gave Davis, who gave Davis
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He ran, he ran wind sprints
for the Buffalo Bills, and every now

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and again he would he would get
a target. But it was you know,

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I think everybody remembers that four touchdown
game in the playoffs, and he's

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capable of doing that flash player.
And then there's Brian Thomas, who's kind

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of in a way the forgotten receiver
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three and I'm I think Thomas,
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his own team. He's kind of
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Like, if he can, if
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drafted him to be, I think
that can help Trevor Lawrence get unlocked and

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the Jaguars can kind of take that
next step. But right now that offense

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seems a little rudderless, and the
fact that it's got so many new pieces

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in there have me a little reticent
to invest heavily into them. Go follow

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this man at FG Underscore Dolan on
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there. At Fantasy Points, he's
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Come on, let's talk about what's
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so we have a charted. We
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Yes and longtime host on Serious Extent
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hosting the daily radio show on Monday
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and I'm now in there. So
that's what I do. Congrass a little

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promotion for your boys. The problem
is I'm not a morning person, so

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I've been trying to adjust my routine
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But you sound great as always,
Joe. It's good to catch up

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with you and uh come football season, your fanny will be in the studio.

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My friend make the trip down the
mountain. Let's go. I appreciate

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it. Yeah, I mean I'm
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I'm actually in the Greenville City,
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Ish. I love it. See
you, Joe, thank you so much.

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All Right, buddy, We'll see
you later. Joe Dolan, Fantasy

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