WEBVTT 1 00:00:04.120 --> 00:00:13.400 Welcome to garden Wall. Recall a nostalgic time corpsule and no spoiler book club 2 00:00:13.759 --> 00:00:24.280 of the original over the garden Wall. Thank jam your creepy curators. I 3 00:00:24.359 --> 00:00:49.200 am shocking Shelby, I am chilling Charlie, and I'm hell led through the 4 00:00:49.320 --> 00:01:00.520 mist by the milk lide. All was lost, his reed long by gone, 5 00:01:00.600 --> 00:01:10.040 burnens near echoes of the scream. But where have we come? And 6 00:01:10.239 --> 00:01:23.079 where shall we? If dreams can't come true, then why not? So? 7 00:01:23.519 --> 00:01:27.079 Yeah, the summer is over, gang, We finished Gravity Falls old 8 00:01:27.159 --> 00:01:32.200 crap. Yeah, and that was amazing. As Dipper's note said at the 9 00:01:32.319 --> 00:01:36.439 end, we will see you next summer when there is more Gravity Falls content 10 00:01:36.519 --> 00:01:38.799 to talk about the vinyls coming out. Excited for that, But for right 11 00:01:38.840 --> 00:01:45.599 now our Gravity Falls auditory museum thing. We were kind of thinking about closing 12 00:01:45.640 --> 00:01:49.840 it for the fall, to be honest, like most most kind of themed 13 00:01:49.879 --> 00:01:53.400 places, you know, like the kind of seasonal right, well, actually 14 00:01:53.439 --> 00:01:59.560 most themed places don't close for the fall. Ella, what shall be you? 15 00:01:59.560 --> 00:02:01.599 You heard of this? I mean, you know, every once in 16 00:02:01.640 --> 00:02:06.280 a while, for a little bit of a money grab, they'll theme it. 17 00:02:06.400 --> 00:02:08.000 Yeah, I mean, like that's what capitalism has given us, But 18 00:02:08.280 --> 00:02:12.120 I think we're allowed to do it too. Are you saying that that this 19 00:02:12.159 --> 00:02:15.479 could be lucrative? It could be so lucrative pulling behind the curtain here. 20 00:02:15.520 --> 00:02:20.000 The reason we're doing this is it was a Patriot stretch call. So oh 21 00:02:20.039 --> 00:02:23.280 so it's already been lucrative, actually already made the money. We just have 22 00:02:23.360 --> 00:02:28.680 to do it now. The question is how do you turn a gravity Falls 23 00:02:28.800 --> 00:02:32.639 museum into a Halloween attraction? Like? What is a Halloween version of Gravity 24 00:02:32.680 --> 00:02:36.680 Falls? Well, I think we should take, you know, inspiration from 25 00:02:36.719 --> 00:02:40.319 the greats, right, like like not Scary Farm before Us or Boogy Boogie's 26 00:02:40.319 --> 00:02:46.879 Big Fruit Boogie Bath. I don't think Disney attraction. Last time I checked 27 00:02:46.919 --> 00:02:51.280 it was. I love the re theming for it. I mean like it 28 00:02:51.360 --> 00:02:54.280 is an adult party. So yeah, I want to cover of the ok 29 00:02:54.400 --> 00:03:00.879 Boogie song with just a lot of faults. Yeah, Santa Claus, I'm 30 00:03:00.960 --> 00:03:07.039 really it's scared that's sucking boogies. Whole thing. He's made of worms and 31 00:03:07.120 --> 00:03:09.360 he says frue he does. All I could think is the like bootoo, 32 00:03:09.400 --> 00:03:15.000 you and you and you and you. It's Halloween and it is a summer 33 00:03:15.039 --> 00:03:20.400 tradition for many to rewatch Gravity Falls, and a lot of that same group 34 00:03:20.639 --> 00:03:27.000 does have a Halloween tradition. That's true because there is a mini series on 35 00:03:27.120 --> 00:03:32.280 Cartoon Network that captures some of the same mystery twelve year old vibes. You 36 00:03:32.319 --> 00:03:36.520 know, mystery twelve year old vibes. Yeah, yeah, genre genre now 37 00:03:37.319 --> 00:03:44.080 it is, that's true. Netflix's biggest show is Mysteriouss. Mister Tines. 38 00:03:44.560 --> 00:03:49.800 We are covering the twenty fourteen Cartoon Network mini series over the Garden Wall woo 39 00:03:49.960 --> 00:03:53.680 per Patreon request. Thank you to everyone who's supported. Thank you. And 40 00:03:53.759 --> 00:03:57.719 I've placed just a bunch of pumpkins all over the place. We got, 41 00:03:58.439 --> 00:04:01.919 yeah, the Japa melons for upper Jackal lanterns, and we got like, 42 00:04:02.280 --> 00:04:05.280 yeah, you put like rats in the walls and cobwebs. Oh those were 43 00:04:05.280 --> 00:04:09.599 there. Wow, this place is in bad shape. We did get Darlene 44 00:04:09.680 --> 00:04:13.719 to throw a couple extra ones up for us. Did she get birth right 45 00:04:13.719 --> 00:04:17.360 here in our in our museum, Yeah, amazing to a bunch of spiders. 46 00:04:18.120 --> 00:04:24.879 Also, our docins are now scare actors. I guess that's right. 47 00:04:24.920 --> 00:04:28.199 We hired them to play like, you know, a bunch of universal monsters 48 00:04:28.199 --> 00:04:31.160 and crap like that. They're all working here now. Of course, obviously 49 00:04:31.480 --> 00:04:34.879 to delegate, I can't coordinate all that. We had a lot of docents 50 00:04:34.879 --> 00:04:38.800 by the end. Yeah, then, I mean we're not We're not experts 51 00:04:38.800 --> 00:04:41.720 on scare acting. Really. I mean, the idea of jumping out at 52 00:04:41.759 --> 00:04:45.720 someone with a chainsaw out of nowhere, Yeah, thats not scary farm or 53 00:04:45.720 --> 00:04:48.439 that kind of attraction doesn't feel like our sort of jurisdiction. So I've gotten 54 00:04:48.879 --> 00:04:54.879 Agatha Vile to train the docents on how to not Yeah, she's kind of 55 00:04:54.879 --> 00:05:00.240 a head scare actor here she is. Oh my gosh, I go hello, 56 00:05:01.040 --> 00:05:06.199 early working. Wait a minute, okay, I mean you got a 57 00:05:06.199 --> 00:05:10.199 lot of people to scare it. You must be running yourself ragged. Are 58 00:05:10.199 --> 00:05:15.360 you all right? What happened to the chainsaw? Wait a minute? God, 59 00:05:15.079 --> 00:05:20.199 damn it? Do you need help? I'm putting it down. Okay, 60 00:05:20.199 --> 00:05:25.600 it looks it looks really heavy. Shelf up there, let's go stay 61 00:05:25.639 --> 00:05:30.560 there. Well, yeah, okay, can shift to jumping out at people. 62 00:05:30.639 --> 00:05:34.040 That's a rather large knife, all right. Listen. I didn't want 63 00:05:34.079 --> 00:05:38.680 to get in trouble with my roommate again, Okay, fair enough, So 64 00:05:39.759 --> 00:05:42.560 I tried to turn Cherry into a were wolf, but that kind of went 65 00:05:42.600 --> 00:05:46.720 backwards. I don't want to get into that. So I had borrowed my 66 00:05:46.879 --> 00:05:54.079 roommate's fiance's weapon, big knife, the great knife. Can you describe it 67 00:05:54.120 --> 00:05:59.920 for us or for our audience? Most of you probably know my roommates engaged 68 00:06:00.079 --> 00:06:05.600 to a version of Pyramidhead, not the one from Syan Hill to congratulations to 69 00:06:05.639 --> 00:06:10.279 the happy couple. I know, right, So she lives with the great 70 00:06:10.439 --> 00:06:15.399 granddaughter of a villain from the Little Mermaid cartoon, and she's engaged to pyramid 71 00:06:15.439 --> 00:06:18.160 Head. It's Halloween all year round there. It sounds like we could not 72 00:06:18.279 --> 00:06:23.000 have hired a better person to train these scharacters. All right, thank you 73 00:06:23.160 --> 00:06:28.600 for saying that you got you borrowed pyramid Head's knife, a great knife. 74 00:06:28.639 --> 00:06:32.279 Listen, airstanced for ten years. I didn't use my arms for ten years. 75 00:06:32.600 --> 00:06:35.720 That thing is heavier than the looks. But you got the leg string 76 00:06:36.000 --> 00:06:40.199 you lift with your legs. Egg. Can you maybe, like Hacky sack 77 00:06:40.279 --> 00:06:43.879 the knife at the guests. Maybe? I don't know. I can't feel 78 00:06:43.920 --> 00:06:46.319 my arms anymore. I will say, if you drag it behind you and 79 00:06:46.439 --> 00:06:50.199 run real fast, it'll probably make some sparks on the pavement. Ooh, 80 00:06:50.240 --> 00:06:54.319 that would be spooky. Oh no, that's absolutely what I was doing in 81 00:06:54.399 --> 00:06:57.199 Ohio, and then I had to drag it over all though I ever heard 82 00:06:57.199 --> 00:07:00.759 to the mystery shack. Because airplanes won't allow that type of weaponry on board. 83 00:07:00.959 --> 00:07:04.720 What I wonder, why not? What is wrong with this country where 84 00:07:04.720 --> 00:07:10.680 you can't even take a several hundred pound knife onto a plane anymore. It's 85 00:07:10.680 --> 00:07:13.480 not because it's a weapon. It's mostly because we won't be able to get 86 00:07:13.519 --> 00:07:16.560 off the ground. He'll probably be here to collect it by the end of 87 00:07:16.600 --> 00:07:20.399 the specials. So oh, that would be fun. If Pyramid had showed 88 00:07:20.439 --> 00:07:24.040 up. I wonder what Pyramid had thinks of the show. I'll just leave 89 00:07:24.079 --> 00:07:27.959 it by the bookcase. Well, don't worry. I guess that we're very 90 00:07:28.000 --> 00:07:33.000 experienced with Pyramid related you know, entities. We've got this Cherry's up back 91 00:07:33.079 --> 00:07:36.519 treating some of the newbies. By that, do you mean biting them and 92 00:07:36.560 --> 00:07:41.319 turning them into wear wolves? Because that looks like that's what's happening. You 93 00:07:41.360 --> 00:07:45.839 know. I didn't think this through very well, did I. It's scary. 94 00:07:46.000 --> 00:07:50.360 I just hope it's reversible. There's no wear wolves in your show, 95 00:07:50.480 --> 00:07:54.319 is well? There are now. Yeah, I guess I'm gonna say, 96 00:07:54.360 --> 00:07:59.199 are they now part dog part were wolf, which like diminishes the wolf's capacity 97 00:07:59.240 --> 00:08:03.360 and they're more like what sort of like a husky? What breed is Cherry? 98 00:08:03.519 --> 00:08:09.160 Oh, she's an absolute mutt, but that mutt includes muppet muppet, 99 00:08:09.120 --> 00:08:13.480 that's what mutt is short for. I think. So you have werewolf muppet 100 00:08:13.680 --> 00:08:22.959 crab experiments. That sounds perfect, but you've experimented on Cherry. She was 101 00:08:22.959 --> 00:08:26.879 my first crab experiment. Okay, you turned a crab into a dog. 102 00:08:28.160 --> 00:08:31.360 It didn't really go well. I was using a mitten crab. Have you 103 00:08:31.399 --> 00:08:35.279 ever seen? Those are very fuzzies. So I thought able with a muppet 104 00:08:35.600 --> 00:08:39.639 and then Cherry was born. You know what, I think the the muppet 105 00:08:39.639 --> 00:08:43.919 ness really shows through in the eyes. I mean, Cherry, you have 106 00:08:43.960 --> 00:08:46.919 beautiful eyes. That's a good joke. What if you told a big scary 107 00:08:46.960 --> 00:08:50.600 dog then it had beautiful eyes, wouldn't that be weird? That's from the 108 00:08:50.639 --> 00:08:56.000 first episode. We probably like we did last time, just go over what 109 00:08:56.159 --> 00:09:01.600 our goals are with this podcast and cover the the air pilot, not totally 110 00:09:01.639 --> 00:09:05.320 not asbery is the gravity falls pilot. You're right, actually, unaired pilot 111 00:09:05.399 --> 00:09:07.879 is just what the gravity falls fans call the pilot, but not all pilots 112 00:09:07.919 --> 00:09:11.120 are on air. This was fully aired. I saw the whole series. 113 00:09:11.240 --> 00:09:15.639 I had no idea if there was an unaired pilot, And now you're telling 114 00:09:15.639 --> 00:09:20.039 me there was an aired pilot pilot. It's been on YouTube since twenty fifteen. 115 00:09:20.360 --> 00:09:22.960 Yeah, something like that. I'm very tired. I mean, you 116 00:09:22.080 --> 00:09:26.759 just dragged a knife several states over. It's like a final fantasy weapon. 117 00:09:26.799 --> 00:09:33.120 Who take ten or go watch Cherry take care of them? And we got 118 00:09:31.720 --> 00:09:35.559 the museum from here. If you'd like, all right, I'll go out 119 00:09:35.639 --> 00:09:39.679 back. Can I bring you guys anything? Maybe like some Wolves band if 120 00:09:39.720 --> 00:09:43.559 you have it. I think that would help you. I would love some 121 00:09:43.679 --> 00:09:52.919 kisses from Cherry you want, I don't think right, bad time for that. 122 00:09:52.200 --> 00:09:56.840 I'll make some lemonade or maybe some raspberry tea, and then I'll figure 123 00:09:56.840 --> 00:10:01.200 out a cure so her kisses are safe. All right? That good? 124 00:10:03.519 --> 00:10:13.480 I'll train your whatever they're called back there. I guess they're now your pack, 125 00:10:13.639 --> 00:10:20.879 your muppet peck of wear cherries exactly. We got a regular muppets haunted 126 00:10:20.879 --> 00:10:24.279 mansion here. Well take care, Agatha. Thank you for all your help 127 00:10:24.320 --> 00:10:28.600 around the Garden Wall recall. I will say one more thing. Potatoes and 128 00:10:28.679 --> 00:10:39.919 molasses taste awful together. But potato pancakes, all right, cousin molasses wait, 129 00:10:41.039 --> 00:10:46.799 cherry drop him, drop him? Good girl, I gotta go. 130 00:10:46.960 --> 00:10:52.679 She's eating someone. I gotta go. Bye bye. Oh that Agatha Vial. 131 00:10:52.240 --> 00:10:58.159 Alright. So, like with mister Shack, look back. Before we 132 00:10:58.200 --> 00:11:01.879 can really get into aisode one of the series proper, we have to. 133 00:11:01.480 --> 00:11:05.639 You know, we wouldn't really be doing a justice without talking about the story 134 00:11:05.000 --> 00:11:11.000 before the story in this episode zero talking about the original pilot. It's on 135 00:11:11.039 --> 00:11:15.320 the Cartoon Network YouTube, so if you would like to watch along when we 136 00:11:15.399 --> 00:11:18.120 cut on over to it, there will be a link in the description. 137 00:11:18.519 --> 00:11:20.879 I would like to before we get into it, give a bit of history, 138 00:11:20.919 --> 00:11:26.200 thanks to the Over the Garden Wall art book. Quick rundown of It 139 00:11:26.240 --> 00:11:30.840 is basically that back in two thousand and six, Tom of the Unknown was 140 00:11:30.879 --> 00:11:35.360 originally pitched to Cartoon Network by the pilots writer and director and the series creator 141 00:11:35.519 --> 00:11:39.279 Patrick McHale. It was pitched to Cartoon Network with a show bible that was 142 00:11:39.320 --> 00:11:45.559 constructed with all this like aged looking paper and all these intricate like paper cuts 143 00:11:45.559 --> 00:11:48.840 and illustrations, and it really had the It instantly gave you like the vibe 144 00:11:48.840 --> 00:11:54.320 of what this show's going to be like. It was super super like mysterious 145 00:11:54.320 --> 00:11:58.399 and ancient looking and rustic and woodsy and all that good stuff. And I'm 146 00:11:58.440 --> 00:12:01.720 not going to read directly from the book about what that original premise was. 147 00:12:03.039 --> 00:12:07.039 The story revolves around two half brothers, Gregory and Walter, who accidentally bored 148 00:12:07.039 --> 00:12:13.240 a train destined for the afterlife. W yes Walter after the conductor removes his 149 00:12:13.360 --> 00:12:18.279 face to reveal a skeleton. Gregory and Walter jump from the train. In 150 00:12:18.320 --> 00:12:22.159 mid journey, they wander into a forest where they encounter a devil named Old 151 00:12:22.240 --> 00:12:26.159 Scratch, who tricks Gregory into a faustian deal. And you know how much 152 00:12:26.200 --> 00:12:30.360 I love those Scratch promises to return them home if they read a book of 153 00:12:30.360 --> 00:12:35.240 forgotten stories, the Tone of the Unknown. If the duo fail, they'll 154 00:12:35.279 --> 00:12:39.000 be whisked away to quote live in the Dark Kingdom forever. There are Walter 155 00:12:39.039 --> 00:12:48.159 many plot details there. I am glad they simplified, simplified when it became 156 00:12:48.200 --> 00:12:50.440 a series. There's way less going on than that. The decision for it 157 00:12:50.519 --> 00:12:54.799 to become a mini series came after this pilot was even made, so it 158 00:12:54.960 --> 00:12:58.960 was imagined as a full series, and Network never would have a mini series 159 00:13:00.080 --> 00:13:03.440 about that scary train, not that we can find anywhere except Pirate Age. 160 00:13:03.440 --> 00:13:07.600 There's no record that they ever have had a mini series about a train. 161 00:13:07.919 --> 00:13:11.360 They called it scary train or so. I think there's no way to tell 162 00:13:11.399 --> 00:13:16.759 at this point. Yeah, prove it. You can't. Walter initially protests, 163 00:13:16.799 --> 00:13:20.279 but he adds his signature to the contract when he realizes Gregory has already 164 00:13:20.279 --> 00:13:24.840 signed in blood Old Scratch, then grabs the book and tears out all the 165 00:13:24.879 --> 00:13:28.000 pages, flinging them into the air as otherworldly winds carry the sheets to the 166 00:13:28.039 --> 00:13:31.960 far corners of the Land of the in between, the floating pages reminiscent of 167 00:13:33.080 --> 00:13:37.919 autumn leaves or Slenderman pages. The episodes follow Gregory and Walter as they track 168 00:13:37.000 --> 00:13:41.759 down the pages, with with with events from the stories coming to life in 169 00:13:41.879 --> 00:13:46.279 unexpected ways. So that was kind of the initial idea of the through line 170 00:13:46.519 --> 00:13:48.799 of the series, is that they have to track down all the pages of 171 00:13:48.799 --> 00:13:52.159 the book, and each time they find a page, they're going to live 172 00:13:52.200 --> 00:13:56.639 out whatever story that is. And it is coded in all of this like 173 00:13:58.240 --> 00:14:01.080 old Like you said, it's like a mare kana of like it's a mixture 174 00:14:01.120 --> 00:14:05.799 of a bunch of different things that we equate in our head as old timey 175 00:14:05.840 --> 00:14:11.039 animation. Because yeah, in the Over the Garden Wall series, there's a 176 00:14:11.039 --> 00:14:15.120 little Alice comedies, there's a little fleisher, there's a little wind in the 177 00:14:15.159 --> 00:14:20.399 willows, there's a little like the backgrounds are like Pinocchio. It's like that 178 00:14:20.399 --> 00:14:26.960 that early nineteen thirties style, like early Mickey Mouse, Betty Boop Alice kind 179 00:14:26.000 --> 00:14:31.720 of things. There's like some nineteen twenties animation, in some nineteen fifties animation. 180 00:14:31.799 --> 00:14:35.919 It's a nice melting pot of anything that feels vaguely old timy. It's 181 00:14:35.919 --> 00:14:39.879 really it's like the scene in the scene in Snow White where she's running through 182 00:14:39.879 --> 00:14:45.440 the forest and everything has a scary face, and that's the background design philosophy. 183 00:14:46.000 --> 00:14:50.320 It's described by Mikhail as the place between life and death, dreams and 184 00:14:50.399 --> 00:14:54.799 reality. Culturally, it is a mixture of American folklore, classic fairy tales, 185 00:14:54.919 --> 00:14:58.840 ghost stories, and dreamland. The landscape is never ending and always changing, 186 00:14:58.840 --> 00:15:01.720 but usually as the feel of either Colonial to Victorian New England or a 187 00:15:01.720 --> 00:15:05.679 German countryside, which are like like like you see saying that, like, 188 00:15:05.759 --> 00:15:09.039 oh, yeah, you know, it's around that range. That's a huge 189 00:15:09.159 --> 00:15:16.200 range. Basically that means that it's grim fairy tales and also Ichabod Crane. 190 00:15:16.480 --> 00:15:20.799 Yeah, that's a good point actually about Ichabod because the Wind in the Willows 191 00:15:20.840 --> 00:15:26.519 and Ichabod the Headless Horsemen, those cartoons were paired together in the Adventures of 192 00:15:26.519 --> 00:15:31.639 Ichabod and Mister Toad was the Disney film that connected those stories. And this 193 00:15:31.720 --> 00:15:35.480 is really this is literally just what if those fused? What if those fused? 194 00:15:35.559 --> 00:15:39.440 But then there's also German stuff like snow White, and there's also early 195 00:15:39.480 --> 00:15:43.159 animation stuff like Betty Boop or the Alice comedies. Yeah, it's just and 196 00:15:43.200 --> 00:15:48.879 then the the landscapes are based on stock photos of New England in the Fall, 197 00:15:50.840 --> 00:15:56.039 as well as yes, colonial and German architecture. Oh maybe maybe mister 198 00:15:56.080 --> 00:16:00.440 Toad doesn't need to fuse with Ichabod because on the Mister Toad Ride you go 199 00:16:00.480 --> 00:16:04.159 to Hell. Toad just goes to Hell. Well that is kind of exactly 200 00:16:04.159 --> 00:16:07.960 what's happening here. Yeah, mister Toad goes to Hell. The series The 201 00:16:08.039 --> 00:16:11.799 Headless Horseman is there, and he is basically the promise. I mean, 202 00:16:11.840 --> 00:16:17.919 there are a lot of people that draw like parallels between this and Dante's Inferno, 203 00:16:18.320 --> 00:16:21.879 and you're at because I've read Dante's Inferno twice over. The garden Wall 204 00:16:21.960 --> 00:16:29.600 is like the Bible and Dante's Inferno and Purgatory and lost and every possible like 205 00:16:29.799 --> 00:16:33.879 allegorical thing this could be. It is, but the Time of Unknown is 206 00:16:33.039 --> 00:16:40.919 very specifically a refuge for lost stories. And there are some ways that this 207 00:16:40.960 --> 00:16:44.399 specific short touches on that that I really want to talk about after we watch 208 00:16:44.480 --> 00:16:47.440 it. So when this was pitched in two thousand and six, Cartoon Network 209 00:16:47.600 --> 00:16:51.360 wanted it to be a film instead of a series, which Michael did not 210 00:16:51.480 --> 00:16:53.720 agree with, and so decided to focus on the second pitch that he had 211 00:16:53.840 --> 00:16:59.840 called Space Planet while he worked on Flapjack, a show that a guy named 212 00:16:59.840 --> 00:17:03.359 Alex worked on I think as well. Was also on that show a couple 213 00:17:03.400 --> 00:17:07.759 people, and that's why Pat McHale voices one of the Hench Maniacs in the 214 00:17:07.799 --> 00:17:12.000 Weird Mageddon arc. But he ended up scrapping that pilot as well because they 215 00:17:12.039 --> 00:17:17.759 wanted to pare down the pilot he was developing by like four minutes. He 216 00:17:17.880 --> 00:17:21.519 was like, I wouldn't know what to cut, so he just scrapped it. 217 00:17:22.279 --> 00:17:25.440 He became the creative director on Adventure Time, a little show you might 218 00:17:25.440 --> 00:17:30.119 have heard of, and he actually imported the character Bemo from Space Planet, 219 00:17:30.279 --> 00:17:33.799 which I didn't know until I read this book that Jemo was just straight up 220 00:17:33.880 --> 00:17:36.480 a character that was going to be in his other shows. I love that 221 00:17:37.039 --> 00:17:40.960 so much, and that's very telling it as well. The combination of that 222 00:17:41.119 --> 00:17:44.759 and the fact that he was also one of the forces behind the character the 223 00:17:44.880 --> 00:17:48.799 Lyitch, who was like just a straight up, deathly serious villain on this 224 00:17:48.279 --> 00:17:52.079 comedy show. Yeah, the fact that he came up with both Bemo and 225 00:17:52.119 --> 00:17:56.000 the Litch kind of tells you everything you need to know about Over the Garden 226 00:17:56.039 --> 00:18:00.319 Wall. Yeah. I mean that's like, that's Greg and the majority of 227 00:18:00.359 --> 00:18:04.119 the darkness pretty much. Yeah. And then in twenty twelve, six years 228 00:18:04.119 --> 00:18:08.480 after this original pitch Bible, he created an updated pitch Bible that reflects the 229 00:18:08.519 --> 00:18:12.799 pilot that we are about to watch, the Tone of the Unknown. Harvest 230 00:18:12.920 --> 00:18:18.160 Melody is a short film slash pilot written and directed by Pat McHale. It 231 00:18:18.200 --> 00:18:23.640 premiered on September ninth, twenty thirteen, at the La Shorts Fest and at 232 00:18:23.720 --> 00:18:26.960 various festivals throughout the year. I feel like that kind of tells you the 233 00:18:27.000 --> 00:18:32.279 Cartoon Network already recognized that this was like a big deal. That like they 234 00:18:32.680 --> 00:18:37.559 rather than dumping it, you know, into some internal project or putting it 235 00:18:37.599 --> 00:18:40.519 online. Not that you know, putting pilots online is a completely valid way 236 00:18:40.519 --> 00:18:44.920 of doing it, but you know, premiering at film festivals a pilot for 237 00:18:45.000 --> 00:18:48.440 a cartoon on Cartoon Network might be unprecedented. I don't actually know, but 238 00:18:49.319 --> 00:18:53.240 that feels like it signals that this is something big. Yeah, I mean 239 00:18:53.400 --> 00:18:57.839 like they recognized the brilliance of what its potential had. Yep. It also 240 00:18:57.880 --> 00:19:02.480 definitely functions on its own as a short film, which we'll get into right 241 00:19:02.519 --> 00:19:19.039 after we watch it, so let's all check it out. So that that 242 00:19:19.119 --> 00:19:22.400 gave me chills. Honestly, Like I forgot how good this? Oh? 243 00:19:22.480 --> 00:19:27.200 I love that so much. John Crops, who's a man made out of 244 00:19:27.319 --> 00:19:33.960 crops sort of the character of the day despite it being you know, a 245 00:19:33.960 --> 00:19:37.720 one episode of fair this pilot. But yeah, but you can assume that 246 00:19:37.799 --> 00:19:41.799 like his story gets wrapped up. Yeah, he is voiced by blues singer, 247 00:19:42.000 --> 00:19:48.559 or rather blues country blues, vaudeville blues Calypso Hokum singer C. W. 248 00:19:48.680 --> 00:19:52.599 Stone King, who looks exactly like how you'd picture him. Yeah, 249 00:19:52.599 --> 00:19:59.480 he looks exactly like John Cropp. And the music for that was done by 250 00:19:59.519 --> 00:20:06.640 the Blast Company formerly the Petrovic Blasting Company. They're a Los Angeles nouveau folk 251 00:20:07.359 --> 00:20:12.359 band influenced by the music of the Balkans and New Orleans Dixie, although they 252 00:20:12.480 --> 00:20:15.759 lean a little more into the New Orleans stuff in their ere ye. Well 253 00:20:17.079 --> 00:20:22.079 for this one, particularly because it's all very uh like Antebellum South, is 254 00:20:22.079 --> 00:20:26.160 that the era it is a very like music Man esque era that early nineteen 255 00:20:26.240 --> 00:20:30.400 tens. Oh. I was going to place it as that one BoJack episode 256 00:20:30.880 --> 00:20:34.039 They've got trouble out here in the Unknown, I mean, like down to 257 00:20:34.079 --> 00:20:37.599 the like kiss behind the Hat, which happens in a lot of middle school 258 00:20:37.799 --> 00:20:44.799 productions of The music Man and his bow Tie Spins. Yeah, it should 259 00:20:44.799 --> 00:20:48.240 have. My main takeaway from all of this is that, and this applies 260 00:20:48.279 --> 00:20:51.839 to the series as well. Also, the Blasting Company did the music for 261 00:20:52.519 --> 00:20:56.319 the entire series. But my takeaway from this and the series as a whole 262 00:20:56.720 --> 00:21:00.880 is that Gregory is the most well written child character I have ever seen in 263 00:21:00.079 --> 00:21:06.680 media. I think I think that's true because like the first thing they do 264 00:21:06.720 --> 00:21:11.079 with him here that really strikes me is like he runs off and you just 265 00:21:11.160 --> 00:21:15.119 hear him scream, and so Wort and their friend Beatrice of course rushed to 266 00:21:15.440 --> 00:21:18.559 see what the problem is. And he's eating an apple and he's happy, 267 00:21:18.640 --> 00:21:26.400 but he's screaming like he's in pain, and he's like Greg, Greg, 268 00:21:27.839 --> 00:21:36.519 Greg, Greg, are you what's well? Why are you screaming? Because 269 00:21:36.640 --> 00:21:40.400 look what I've found. That's such a kid thing. And also just getting 270 00:21:40.440 --> 00:21:44.960 fixated on like a particular thing like we're that day reminds me of a Max 271 00:21:45.000 --> 00:21:48.640 and Ruby how Ruby or no. Max will always say a particular word or 272 00:21:48.640 --> 00:21:51.480 phrase and will repeat it throughout the episode like that's where his mind is. 273 00:21:51.759 --> 00:21:55.680 And today Greg wants to ride a goose like that's what he's talking about. 274 00:21:55.720 --> 00:21:57.400 He's like, ynh, there's no geese around here. Like he's such a 275 00:21:57.920 --> 00:22:02.799 He's such a kid. And I regret to infour of you that Colin Dean 276 00:22:02.960 --> 00:22:07.759 is seventeen now, oh my god, not still a baby. You're lying 277 00:22:07.799 --> 00:22:11.799 to me though, you're lying because I'm not that old. I'd be fine 278 00:22:11.839 --> 00:22:18.759 with it if I were. But it's not true. He's so like specific 279 00:22:18.960 --> 00:22:22.279 in how he's written. I would compare him to someone like I don't know, 280 00:22:22.559 --> 00:22:26.680 like DW from Arthur and it was just who fears on obnoxious, But 281 00:22:26.759 --> 00:22:30.559 like Greg, it never feels that way, like he he gets on the 282 00:22:30.640 --> 00:22:33.680 character's nerves, but I feel like he never gets on your and er. 283 00:22:33.799 --> 00:22:37.720 It's like I've met people who who he gets on the nerves of, but 284 00:22:37.200 --> 00:22:42.160 one thing they get in the performance that usually is kind of glossed over with 285 00:22:42.279 --> 00:22:45.480 child voice, acting like they don't want it, but it makes them sound 286 00:22:45.519 --> 00:22:49.599 so much more like kids is the he doesn't always do it, but his 287 00:22:49.799 --> 00:22:56.880 sentences are not paced correctly, like he doesn't know when to breathe. Yeah, 288 00:22:56.880 --> 00:23:00.799 Like I remember I was watching something about uh with the behind the scenes 289 00:23:00.799 --> 00:23:03.240 of Up and the kid who voices Uh Russell the boy scout, there was 290 00:23:03.279 --> 00:23:06.039 like there were scenes where they had to be out of breath, so they 291 00:23:06.039 --> 00:23:07.279 had him like run around the booth a bunch of times. He came back. 292 00:23:07.359 --> 00:23:11.400 He's like, I'll feed him, I'll give him the food for him. 293 00:23:11.559 --> 00:23:15.039 I'll lock him. I'll change his newspapers. I will. I was 294 00:23:15.119 --> 00:23:18.319 great for those listening. It's a if you ever have to voice a child 295 00:23:18.400 --> 00:23:22.200 character, taking a breath in the middle of a sentence does way more than 296 00:23:22.640 --> 00:23:26.920 anything with your voice. If I were to just if I ready to just 297 00:23:26.960 --> 00:23:30.519 talk like this like this, children don't know when to breathe. They're not 298 00:23:30.680 --> 00:23:33.920 used to running out of breath yet, so they're never prepared for it. 299 00:23:34.279 --> 00:23:38.000 Yeah, and the way he's written feels to me like watching someone else babysit 300 00:23:38.039 --> 00:23:41.720 a kid, where it's like, if it were me having to look after 301 00:23:41.759 --> 00:23:45.720 the kid, I probably would be a little more like troubled. But because 302 00:23:45.720 --> 00:23:52.759 I'm just observing, it's funny. There's something so pure about the way he's 303 00:23:52.799 --> 00:23:56.440 written, because like, yeah, with d W, DW was written to 304 00:23:56.519 --> 00:24:00.079 be like that devious little sister. There is nothing d There's not a single 305 00:24:00.160 --> 00:24:06.720 devious bone in Greg's body. Greg is like self sacrificing but kind and sweet 306 00:24:06.880 --> 00:24:11.480 and just and just a kid. Yet it never it never feels overly wholesome 307 00:24:11.559 --> 00:24:15.839 or like unrealistically wholesome. He feels like a kid, just feels like a 308 00:24:15.920 --> 00:24:22.599 kid who was raised who's being raised right like who has parents and Elijah Wood 309 00:24:22.720 --> 00:24:26.000 voices were and usually Oh my god, I hate celebrity voice acting. Because 310 00:24:26.000 --> 00:24:30.759 Elijah Wood did star and potentially the biggest film trilogy of all time. He 311 00:24:30.799 --> 00:24:36.359 plays Frodo Baggins in the Lord of the Rings films. He's a really legitimately 312 00:24:36.400 --> 00:24:40.240 good voice actor that is excellently cast in this role. It is just his 313 00:24:40.319 --> 00:24:42.720 normal voice. If you watch him in interviews, that's how he sounds, 314 00:24:44.000 --> 00:24:48.079 but it's way more of the case. I hear people go that was Elijah 315 00:24:48.119 --> 00:24:52.599 Wood, Then oh, Elijah Woods in this I should check it out. 316 00:24:52.759 --> 00:24:56.640 Yeah, because in Lord of the Rings he's doing the accent the whole time. 317 00:24:56.799 --> 00:25:02.000 I kind of hate the prodo voice. The wide eyed British child's voice 318 00:25:02.039 --> 00:25:07.200 sounds so weird coming out of this nineteen year old man. Sam Sam, 319 00:25:07.240 --> 00:25:11.079 look over here. I'm like, eh, I can't carry the tone of 320 00:25:11.119 --> 00:25:15.799 the unknown, Greg, I can carry you. I got really into Lord 321 00:25:15.839 --> 00:25:21.799 of the Rings last summer, and I would watch interviews with Elijah Wood and 322 00:25:21.839 --> 00:25:25.839 hearing him talk in his normal voice, I was like, why you talk 323 00:25:25.920 --> 00:25:30.079 about Lord of the Rings word? What do you know? Are you saying 324 00:25:30.119 --> 00:25:33.920 that? Wouldn't be really into Lord of the rings. I'm just saying, 325 00:25:33.960 --> 00:25:37.400 I was expecting Frodo to be talking about his role in the movies, not 326 00:25:37.559 --> 00:25:41.839 Wort talking about how he likes them. Yeah, the drawings in Tone of 327 00:25:41.839 --> 00:25:45.359 the Unknown are a lot less tied down than they are in Over the Garden 328 00:25:45.359 --> 00:25:48.160 Wall Proper, And I love that, Like, there's so many weird that 329 00:25:48.240 --> 00:25:52.599 you only really notice in comparison with the series proper. But there's so many 330 00:25:52.640 --> 00:25:56.640 weird angles on words, face and weird expressions. And when he they get 331 00:25:56.680 --> 00:26:02.839 the vegetable car from John Crops and be A Tris Goods were into licking like 332 00:26:02.920 --> 00:26:06.039 the cucumber Wheel, and there's just this drawing of him with his tongue out. 333 00:26:06.079 --> 00:26:11.880 It's really stupid looking. So in this pilot, Beatrice is voiced by 334 00:26:11.240 --> 00:26:15.640 Natasha Lazio who he's best known for playing one of the lead roles of Another 335 00:26:15.680 --> 00:26:22.680 period along with Jason Ritter. But I actually first heard of her when I 336 00:26:22.799 --> 00:26:26.759 was making Ace Attorney anime at Bridge and Lara from the Frog, Kiss and 337 00:26:26.839 --> 00:26:33.839 Gals podcast confessed that the voice that she was doing for me was an impression 338 00:26:33.880 --> 00:26:38.640 of Natasha Laziero from another period. So I was very excited when I found 339 00:26:38.839 --> 00:26:49.279 this tangentially garravity Falls related thing had a voice acting performance from someone who referenced 340 00:26:49.279 --> 00:26:53.680 it for a voice acting performance since something I made. Yeah, also acted 341 00:26:53.720 --> 00:26:59.880 alongside Jason Ritter in another period, right, Yes, and then well the 342 00:27:00.000 --> 00:27:03.920 connections will continue later on. Yes, I love love love tone of the 343 00:27:04.039 --> 00:27:08.240 unknown. It's great. It would be really stupid if you didn't accept because 344 00:27:08.279 --> 00:27:12.920 this was this was before Cuphead was finished. There was no one trying to 345 00:27:14.240 --> 00:27:18.079 aim to all of human history happened before Cuphead was finished. Yes, that's 346 00:27:18.119 --> 00:27:19.960 true. But that's good though, because they were specifically avoiding crunch. I 347 00:27:21.000 --> 00:27:22.799 don't mean to insult cup that, I mean to praise it. Yes, 348 00:27:22.839 --> 00:27:26.920 it took ten years to make, but prior to that, nothing was really 349 00:27:26.160 --> 00:27:33.759 doing this kind of Betty Boop sort of look outside of like little vignettes and 350 00:27:33.000 --> 00:27:38.519 moments. And of course there was an inspiration to the look of My Life 351 00:27:38.559 --> 00:27:41.400 is a teenage Robot, but not to this extent. Yeah. Well, 352 00:27:41.400 --> 00:27:44.920 and also that was focusing on like the art deco of it all, and 353 00:27:44.920 --> 00:27:48.839 this is blending it with like the German and colonial stuff they can but more 354 00:27:48.880 --> 00:27:53.039 before it. Yeah, the movement is very Fleischer, but the drawings are 355 00:27:53.240 --> 00:28:00.920 very paintings in your Grandma's house slash Wind in the Willows, taking things that 356 00:28:00.319 --> 00:28:07.119 in other cartoons are there as a bit stylistic reference that and this is now 357 00:28:07.200 --> 00:28:11.880 just the thesis of the entire show. Visually listening to the Blessing Companies music 358 00:28:11.119 --> 00:28:17.839 and looking at these this backgrounds that are styled after Disney layouts from the forties 359 00:28:17.880 --> 00:28:22.039 by background painter Nick Cross. Nick Cross and hearing the I just got to 360 00:28:22.039 --> 00:28:26.720 play you a clip of John Craft's voice, because he's clearly not a voice 361 00:28:26.759 --> 00:28:30.039 actor. He's clearly a blues singer, and his diction when he's speaking is 362 00:28:30.079 --> 00:28:36.559 not good. But it doesn't feel like you're meeting a cartoon old farmer. 363 00:28:36.640 --> 00:28:41.160 It feels like you're meeting a real old guitar playing farmer. What are you 364 00:28:41.319 --> 00:28:47.039 folks doing out here in the middle of nowhere listening to Paul jon Kropps singing 365 00:28:47.119 --> 00:28:52.720 his sad songs to himself and Nick Cross really leaned into the handmade feel of 366 00:28:52.759 --> 00:28:56.279 it. I think in some of the backgrounds you can even see pencil sketches 367 00:28:56.319 --> 00:29:00.920 of like underneath. Yeah, there's and obviously it all is very hand painted. 368 00:29:00.839 --> 00:29:06.200 There's imperfections in the backgrounds to make them look hand painted, to give 369 00:29:06.240 --> 00:29:11.640 that sort of forties Disney Pinocchio feel. Yes, as well as the soft 370 00:29:11.640 --> 00:29:15.680 focus, which I love, love, love, love love. There's a 371 00:29:15.759 --> 00:29:19.759 vasoline on the lens kind of look to the corners that they I think in 372 00:29:19.839 --> 00:29:22.920 the show proper, I don't know if they do. I think they swap 373 00:29:22.960 --> 00:29:26.240 it out for like a vignette effect, whereas yeah, darker on the corners, 374 00:29:26.519 --> 00:29:30.880 which I love. Again, that's a throwback to just the way that 375 00:29:30.920 --> 00:29:36.519 cartoons were presented, like in that era, to Nickelodeon's Yeah you put it, 376 00:29:36.599 --> 00:29:38.720 you would look at the center of a cartoon. You didn't those corners 377 00:29:38.720 --> 00:29:44.000 didn't even exist. You kids, in your cartoons have a corners. You 378 00:29:44.039 --> 00:29:47.839 see John Crops lift up his skirts slightly to see his ankles, and he 379 00:29:47.880 --> 00:29:56.839 winks at you, and that's the cartoon, the song he sings and usually 380 00:29:56.759 --> 00:30:10.039 only can be you and no one else for me, And you know it. 381 00:30:10.319 --> 00:30:14.279 That is legitimately a lost story, right, because the thesis of Tom 382 00:30:14.359 --> 00:30:17.279 of the Unknown is that they are meeting the lost stories that are contained in 383 00:30:17.359 --> 00:30:21.039 the tone. Yeah, that is a It was a pretty popular song from 384 00:30:21.079 --> 00:30:26.960 the nineteen aughts. It was featured in the Wizard of Oz stage musical, 385 00:30:26.920 --> 00:30:32.519 and it did not stand the test of time. It's not one of those 386 00:30:33.440 --> 00:30:37.160 turn of the century classics your grandparents would listen or great grandparents I guess sorry, 387 00:30:37.480 --> 00:30:41.599 would listen to. You know, if you google it, the first 388 00:30:41.599 --> 00:30:45.480 couple of results are relating to the Blasting Company or ton of the Unknown, 389 00:30:45.640 --> 00:30:53.039 so they legitimately found a lost story and interspersed those into the narrative as the 390 00:30:53.119 --> 00:30:59.559 musical numbers and the Yeah, I love this so much. This whole thing 391 00:30:59.599 --> 00:31:03.240 is so brilliant, like just a gorgeous piece of media. I remember, 392 00:31:03.799 --> 00:31:08.079 prior to seeing this, just at the beginning, all of the promo stuff 393 00:31:08.240 --> 00:31:12.759 for Over the Garden Wall had clips from Tome of the Unknown in it that 394 00:31:12.880 --> 00:31:17.640 never showed up in there, so I was always wondering where the watermelon car 395 00:31:17.680 --> 00:31:19.799 came from. It is a lost story in itself, and of course saw 396 00:31:19.839 --> 00:31:23.240 the best clips on the theme song are from the Unaired Pilot. You never 397 00:31:23.319 --> 00:31:29.480 got to say, that's so uh, you know, it became a story, 398 00:31:29.880 --> 00:31:33.839 that's that's hilarious. I didn't even know that because in real time fandom, 399 00:31:33.920 --> 00:31:38.200 we when we were about to do One Night for Halloween, dubbing all 400 00:31:38.240 --> 00:31:41.200 ten episodes of Over the Garden Wall in succession. By the way, the 401 00:31:41.200 --> 00:31:45.319 episodes are eleven minute long. The whole show is the length of a movie. 402 00:31:45.480 --> 00:31:53.160 Just just watch it. Yeah, it's one hbox four Now we laughed, 403 00:31:53.160 --> 00:31:57.200 so we don't start crying in real Tay foundo. We dubbed Tom of 404 00:31:57.240 --> 00:32:01.799 the Unknown to use it to make a trailer for the Over the Garden Wall 405 00:32:01.799 --> 00:32:07.759 stream because you can't really make trailers for improvised things. Yeah, right right. 406 00:32:07.240 --> 00:32:10.240 We decided we'd get the cast that was going to be in the Over 407 00:32:10.279 --> 00:32:14.480 the Garden Wall stream to dub Tom of the Unknown, just so we could 408 00:32:14.480 --> 00:32:16.319 play clips at the end. I believe it's in our summer window. That 409 00:32:16.359 --> 00:32:22.480 would makes sense. Yeah. So apparently the pilot was storyboarded solo by Pat 410 00:32:22.519 --> 00:32:27.640 McHale, which explains why there are so many hilarious drugs that it's that it's 411 00:32:27.680 --> 00:32:31.279 all done by one person, just blitzing through this nine minute pilot. But 412 00:32:31.359 --> 00:32:36.559 from a story boarding perspective, I'm very excited for the series proper, because 413 00:32:36.759 --> 00:32:42.240 I believe there are different board artists on every episode, a lot of whom 414 00:32:42.799 --> 00:32:47.440 are famous in their own right for their cartoons. So we'll see a lot 415 00:32:47.440 --> 00:32:52.440 of familiar names pop up in that category, and we'll see a lot of 416 00:32:52.480 --> 00:33:00.279 returning dosins here to be to be trained as scare performers. Yeah, they 417 00:33:00.319 --> 00:33:07.480 get turned back to humans now and we can wolves. That's not too bad. 418 00:33:07.920 --> 00:33:14.319 Wolves. Scare wolves is so so extra because werewolves are already scary. 419 00:33:14.359 --> 00:33:16.200 You don't need to make a Halloween version of that name. And now I'm 420 00:33:16.240 --> 00:33:21.160 obsessed with it and I'm going to use it in something itselfing and bouncing around 421 00:33:21.200 --> 00:33:22.720 my head the whole time. I just wasn't sure when to fit it in. 422 00:33:23.240 --> 00:33:27.119 I'm obsessed with it. I'm gonna I'm just gonna write that down on 423 00:33:27.160 --> 00:33:30.160 a piece of paper and use it in something besides this podcast official. Okay, 424 00:33:31.359 --> 00:33:37.680 scare wolves. They're like werewolves, but scary for Halloween. The werewolves 425 00:33:37.680 --> 00:33:44.559 are being retheved to scare wolves. Ello. Yeah. I always, whenever 426 00:33:44.720 --> 00:33:49.039 looking at the animation for this, I always thought about those like Victorian greeting 427 00:33:49.119 --> 00:33:53.279 cards. Yes, yes, like those Victorian Christmas cards. Yeah, And 428 00:33:53.319 --> 00:33:57.799 that's what I was saying about paintings in your your grandma's house, because there 429 00:33:57.920 --> 00:34:02.799 is there is influence from early nineteen hundreds animation. But then there's also influence 430 00:34:02.880 --> 00:34:09.000 from late eighteen hundreds paintings, right, So it's like if a Betty Boop 431 00:34:09.199 --> 00:34:14.039 type or a Wind in the Willows type were somehow looney tunes back in actioning 432 00:34:14.159 --> 00:34:19.039 around classical Turn of the century art, it's, yeah, like paintings of 433 00:34:20.360 --> 00:34:27.440 autumn landscapes. And then the colonial architecture is from the seventeen hundreds and sixteen 434 00:34:27.519 --> 00:34:32.159 hundreds, but then the German Hansel and Gretel type architecture is from like the 435 00:34:32.239 --> 00:34:37.199 eleven hundreds. Yeah, I mean it's also well it's INCREDI I guess, 436 00:34:37.519 --> 00:34:39.039 yeah, now you mentioned it. It's incredibly hansl and Gretel. It's just 437 00:34:39.079 --> 00:34:43.000 two kids wandering around. Oh yeah, I mean, and that's where the 438 00:34:43.760 --> 00:34:46.840 German influence comes from, as well as snow White. Oh yeah, well 439 00:34:46.960 --> 00:34:52.800 yeah, it's that and Pinocchio is also all those stories are like, don't 440 00:34:52.920 --> 00:34:57.039 be bad, or you'll get eaten by something in the forest. Kids. 441 00:34:57.239 --> 00:35:00.840 So the interesting thing about all those German fairy tales is they started from a 442 00:35:00.840 --> 00:35:07.199 matriarchal standpoint and then were translated into a patriarchal I could I could go. 443 00:35:07.440 --> 00:35:14.519 This is one of my so originally, all of those stories, all of 444 00:35:14.519 --> 00:35:17.039 those fairy tales that we know, have been filtered so many times through so 445 00:35:17.079 --> 00:35:22.599 many different things, filtered through translators from German, filtered through the Grim Brothers, 446 00:35:22.599 --> 00:35:24.679 from other people, and those stories were told from other people to the 447 00:35:24.719 --> 00:35:29.960 Grim Brothers. But they started out as a way for little old ladies to 448 00:35:30.039 --> 00:35:35.000 walk around the countryside spreading new laws because not everybody was literate, so they 449 00:35:35.000 --> 00:35:37.519 would basically put up the laws. The little old ladies would get together and 450 00:35:37.559 --> 00:35:39.800 be like, oh, well, how are we gonna tell this to the 451 00:35:39.840 --> 00:35:44.599 people. Oh, we'll tell a story about a little girl who's walking through 452 00:35:44.639 --> 00:35:51.000 the woods and a stranger is talking to her and it scared a scared Yeah, 453 00:35:51.039 --> 00:35:58.159 so it's like, what happened to him? He died? So yeah. 454 00:35:58.239 --> 00:36:02.039 All of these stories were like stories about laws trying to keep people safe 455 00:36:02.159 --> 00:36:07.239 and protected, and then they've been filtered through so many different things. These 456 00:36:07.280 --> 00:36:09.519 people are so stupid, How are we going to keep them from dying? 457 00:36:09.800 --> 00:36:14.079 How are we going to keep them from dying? They like hearing stories, 458 00:36:14.480 --> 00:36:17.400 Ay, what's your story? And they all tell them stories and they'll apply 459 00:36:17.480 --> 00:36:21.920 it to their life. And that's what I hope to accomplish with the rest 460 00:36:21.960 --> 00:36:24.000 of this podcast. I hope to live. You know, we tell ourselves 461 00:36:24.000 --> 00:36:28.000 stories in order to live, some say, but others say we tell ourselves 462 00:36:28.039 --> 00:36:31.840 stories in order to not die. And those are different. Those are very 463 00:36:31.840 --> 00:36:37.280 different stories. I prefer the not die stories to the live stories personally, 464 00:36:37.360 --> 00:36:40.519 they're way more entertaining. Now, don't you go diet. Now, there's 465 00:36:40.559 --> 00:36:44.559 so many ways to do it, but you shouldn't do any of them. 466 00:36:44.840 --> 00:36:50.280 There are several different ways you can die. Avoid them. Was that just 467 00:36:50.360 --> 00:36:54.079 the old world German version of the DARE program? Yeah? Absolutely, those 468 00:36:54.079 --> 00:36:58.079 were. There are so many ways for you to die. We're gonna describe 469 00:36:58.119 --> 00:37:04.559 them in detail. You didn't reimagine absolutely any German folk tale as an anti 470 00:37:04.639 --> 00:37:08.480 drugs PSA like Little Red diding Hood wandering through the woods, but here comes 471 00:37:08.800 --> 00:37:14.119 the big Bad Wolf. Hey kid, you want to try some flowers. 472 00:37:15.079 --> 00:37:19.400 I've never seen flowers like these. You see that that big bad wolf. 473 00:37:19.440 --> 00:37:22.320 That big bad Wolf's gonna try to offer some drugs, But don't let them 474 00:37:22.320 --> 00:37:27.119 do it to your kids. Despite being a fellow canine, there is no 475 00:37:27.199 --> 00:37:30.639 relation between mcruff and the Big Bad Wolf. I actually grew up on the 476 00:37:30.679 --> 00:37:35.280 same street as the Big Bad Wolf, and then I narked on him and 477 00:37:35.320 --> 00:37:38.079 that started me down my path. We got caught in the same bust, 478 00:37:38.159 --> 00:37:42.480 but they gave me a deal if I read it out on a Big Bad 479 00:37:42.559 --> 00:37:50.719 Wolf. McGruff is the Tim Allen of cautionary dog characters. Yes, and 480 00:37:50.800 --> 00:37:55.079 he has beautiful eyes. We tried to get McGruff as a scary actor, 481 00:37:55.119 --> 00:38:00.079 but he was the care wolf. He said, I don't do scary stories. 482 00:38:00.119 --> 00:38:01.519 Okay, So I'm excited for the rest of the show. It's gonna 483 00:38:01.559 --> 00:38:06.000 be a lot of cool docents, a lot of great storyboard artists to talk 484 00:38:06.039 --> 00:38:08.039 about, a lot of great vas talk about, and great actors. And 485 00:38:08.559 --> 00:38:13.400 if you want to find more episodes of this podcast or the podcast it's a 486 00:38:13.400 --> 00:38:15.519 spinoff of, on the same feed, Mystery Shack Look Back, go to 487 00:38:15.559 --> 00:38:20.880 our host network, pipe Dreampodcasts dot com, where you can find other shows 488 00:38:21.039 --> 00:38:24.400 like Escape from Valt Disney, which features Agatha Vile. How did this not 489 00:38:24.480 --> 00:38:30.400 get made? Come on Fuhukua pods and pod made you special revisiting VeggieTales. 490 00:38:30.119 --> 00:38:34.840 I don't think John Crops is there though. There you can find a link 491 00:38:34.880 --> 00:38:39.519 to our show's social media's discord server and our Patreon Patreon dot com slash Mystery 492 00:38:39.559 --> 00:38:43.159 Shack. Three dollars will get you a shout at the end of episodes. 493 00:38:43.199 --> 00:38:47.519 Five dollars we'll get you into a channel where you can watch Totally Unknown with 494 00:38:47.639 --> 00:38:52.599 us on the day that this is being released. Yeah, and for forty 495 00:38:52.599 --> 00:38:55.199 dollars you could get an art or voice commission from one of us. Yeah. 496 00:38:55.280 --> 00:39:00.920 You, I'm gonna draw you as a Betty Boop type. You know 497 00:39:00.079 --> 00:39:04.239 I have a Christopher Lloyd in my back pocket. You want you want me 498 00:39:04.320 --> 00:39:06.639 to? I wonder why that. I wonder where that'll come at. That 499 00:39:06.719 --> 00:39:09.079 might come into play a lot in this podcast. Actually, yeah, you 500 00:39:09.079 --> 00:39:13.719 could check out our merch store at crowdmad dot com slash Collections, slash mystery 501 00:39:13.719 --> 00:39:16.480 Shack look Back. I guess you know, since I'm making the cover art 502 00:39:16.519 --> 00:39:21.119 for this, I'll probably add some stuff for garden Wall recall as well. 503 00:39:21.400 --> 00:39:23.559 You can contact us at Mystery Shack look Back at gmail dot com, send 504 00:39:23.639 --> 00:39:29.639 us your thoughts on this pilot or over the garden Wall in general. Thank 505 00:39:29.679 --> 00:39:35.079 you to Simmon the dim Bulb V two hyphen zero for making our instrumental to 506 00:39:35.119 --> 00:39:37.840 our intro song. Well, I I would love to talk more about Tone 507 00:39:37.840 --> 00:39:42.679 of the Unknown, but I actually have to go play a show in the 508 00:39:42.719 --> 00:39:45.159 big vegetable city. It's kind of a big deal. It's a big gig 509 00:39:45.199 --> 00:39:49.679 for me. Actually it's a it's a good get and I have to rehearse. 510 00:39:50.239 --> 00:39:52.840 But I guess I could. I could do that right now, play 511 00:39:52.920 --> 00:40:00.559 us out with that. I never dream ud come a day when I find 512 00:40:00.880 --> 00:40:13.320 myself far from yours. Now that I am, I can hardly stand not 513 00:40:13.480 --> 00:40:23.079 to be New York Suite Southern Shoes. Send me a page from old Georgia, 514 00:40:24.800 --> 00:40:34.519 down where the Savana flows. If I could have won Bye of Georgia, 515 00:40:36.519 --> 00:40:46.599 I would feel right here at home. I miss the shady orans walking 516 00:40:46.960 --> 00:40:57.639 with you by my side. Just send me one page from Georgia, just 517 00:40:57.840 --> 00:41:05.880 so I know, yo, be mind. I hope then you won't forget 518 00:41:05.920 --> 00:41:15.639 me before my rotally is back to you through the wind to maybury the whole 519 00:41:15.639 --> 00:41:22.719 world to its knees. The spring show return with its fruit. The wind 520 00:41:22.840 --> 00:41:32.840 here is ready for winter. It seems to turn everything blue. So just 521 00:41:34.000 --> 00:41:50.239 send me, send me one lape just as sweet sunny peace. Oh hey 522 00:41:50.320 --> 00:41:53.360 y'all, ella here, I hope you enjoyed this first adventure over the garden 523 00:41:53.400 --> 00:41:58.599 Wall, stay tuned for more, and until then, here is the thinking 524 00:41:58.880 --> 00:42:05.079 of the patron. 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