Welcome to garden Wall. Recall a nostalgic time corpsule and no spoiler book club
of the original over the garden Wall. Thank jam your creepy curators. I
am shocking Shelby, I am chilling Charlie, and I'm hell led through the
mist by the milk lide. All was lost, his reed long by gone,
burnens near echoes of the scream. But where have we come? And
where shall we? If dreams can't come true, then why not? So?
Yeah, the summer is over, gang, We finished Gravity Falls old
crap. Yeah, and that was amazing. As Dipper's note said at the
end, we will see you next summer when there is more Gravity Falls content
to talk about the vinyls coming out. Excited for that, But for right
now our Gravity Falls auditory museum thing. We were kind of thinking about closing
it for the fall, to be honest, like most most kind of themed
places, you know, like the kind of seasonal right, well, actually
most themed places don't close for the fall. Ella, what shall be you?
You heard of this? I mean, you know, every once in
a while, for a little bit of a money grab, they'll theme it.
Yeah, I mean, like that's what capitalism has given us, But
I think we're allowed to do it too. Are you saying that that this
could be lucrative? It could be so lucrative pulling behind the curtain here.
The reason we're doing this is it was a Patriot stretch call. So oh
so it's already been lucrative, actually already made the money. We just have
to do it now. The question is how do you turn a gravity Falls
museum into a Halloween attraction? Like? What is a Halloween version of Gravity
Falls? Well, I think we should take, you know, inspiration from
the greats, right, like like not Scary Farm before Us or Boogy Boogie's
Big Fruit Boogie Bath. I don't think Disney attraction. Last time I checked
it was. I love the re theming for it. I mean like it
is an adult party. So yeah, I want to cover of the ok
Boogie song with just a lot of faults. Yeah, Santa Claus, I'm
really it's scared that's sucking boogies. Whole thing. He's made of worms and
he says frue he does. All I could think is the like bootoo,
you and you and you and you. It's Halloween and it is a summer
tradition for many to rewatch Gravity Falls, and a lot of that same group
does have a Halloween tradition. That's true because there is a mini series on
Cartoon Network that captures some of the same mystery twelve year old vibes. You
know, mystery twelve year old vibes. Yeah, yeah, genre genre now
it is, that's true. Netflix's biggest show is Mysteriouss. Mister Tines.
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I've placed just a bunch of pumpkins all over the place. We got,
yeah, the Japa melons for upper Jackal lanterns, and we got like,
yeah, you put like rats in the walls and cobwebs. Oh those were
there. Wow, this place is in bad shape. We did get Darlene
to throw a couple extra ones up for us. Did she get birth right
here in our in our museum, Yeah, amazing to a bunch of spiders.
Also, our docins are now scare actors. I guess that's right.
We hired them to play like, you know, a bunch of universal monsters
and crap like that. They're all working here now. Of course, obviously
to delegate, I can't coordinate all that. We had a lot of docents
by the end. Yeah, then, I mean we're not We're not experts
on scare acting. Really. I mean, the idea of jumping out at
someone with a chainsaw out of nowhere, Yeah, thats not scary farm or
that kind of attraction doesn't feel like our sort of jurisdiction. So I've gotten
Agatha Vile to train the docents on how to not Yeah, she's kind of
a head scare actor here she is. Oh my gosh, I go hello,
early working. Wait a minute, okay, I mean you got a
lot of people to scare it. You must be running yourself ragged. Are
you all right? What happened to the chainsaw? Wait a minute? God,
damn it? Do you need help? I'm putting it down. Okay,
it looks it looks really heavy. Shelf up there, let's go stay
there. Well, yeah, okay, can shift to jumping out at people.
That's a rather large knife, all right. Listen. I didn't want
to get in trouble with my roommate again, Okay, fair enough, So
I tried to turn Cherry into a were wolf, but that kind of went
backwards. I don't want to get into that. So I had borrowed my
roommate's fiance's weapon, big knife, the great knife. Can you describe it
for us or for our audience? Most of you probably know my roommates engaged
to a version of Pyramidhead, not the one from Syan Hill to congratulations to
the happy couple. I know, right, So she lives with the great
granddaughter of a villain from the Little Mermaid cartoon, and she's engaged to pyramid
Head. It's Halloween all year round there. It sounds like we could not
have hired a better person to train these scharacters. All right, thank you
for saying that you got you borrowed pyramid Head's knife, a great knife.
Listen, airstanced for ten years. I didn't use my arms for ten years.
That thing is heavier than the looks. But you got the leg string
you lift with your legs. Egg. Can you maybe, like Hacky sack
the knife at the guests. Maybe? I don't know. I can't feel
my arms anymore. I will say, if you drag it behind you and
run real fast, it'll probably make some sparks on the pavement. Ooh,
that would be spooky. Oh no, that's absolutely what I was doing in
Ohio, and then I had to drag it over all though I ever heard
to the mystery shack. Because airplanes won't allow that type of weaponry on board.
What I wonder, why not? What is wrong with this country where
you can't even take a several hundred pound knife onto a plane anymore. It's
not because it's a weapon. It's mostly because we won't be able to get
off the ground. He'll probably be here to collect it by the end of
the specials. So oh, that would be fun. If Pyramid had showed
up. I wonder what Pyramid had thinks of the show. I'll just leave
it by the bookcase. Well, don't worry. I guess that we're very
experienced with Pyramid related you know, entities. We've got this Cherry's up back
treating some of the newbies. By that, do you mean biting them and
turning them into wear wolves? Because that looks like that's what's happening. You
know. I didn't think this through very well, did I. It's scary.
I just hope it's reversible. There's no wear wolves in your show,
is well? There are now. Yeah, I guess I'm gonna say,
are they now part dog part were wolf, which like diminishes the wolf's capacity
and they're more like what sort of like a husky? What breed is Cherry?
Oh, she's an absolute mutt, but that mutt includes muppet muppet,
that's what mutt is short for. I think. So you have werewolf muppet
crab experiments. That sounds perfect, but you've experimented on Cherry. She was
my first crab experiment. Okay, you turned a crab into a dog.
It didn't really go well. I was using a mitten crab. Have you
ever seen? Those are very fuzzies. So I thought able with a muppet
and then Cherry was born. You know what, I think the the muppet
ness really shows through in the eyes. I mean, Cherry, you have
beautiful eyes. That's a good joke. What if you told a big scary
dog then it had beautiful eyes, wouldn't that be weird? That's from the
first episode. We probably like we did last time, just go over what
our goals are with this podcast and cover the the air pilot, not totally
not asbery is the gravity falls pilot. You're right, actually, unaired pilot
is just what the gravity falls fans call the pilot, but not all pilots
are on air. This was fully aired. I saw the whole series.
I had no idea if there was an unaired pilot, And now you're telling
me there was an aired pilot pilot. It's been on YouTube since twenty fifteen.
Yeah, something like that. I'm very tired. I mean, you
just dragged a knife several states over. It's like a final fantasy weapon.
Who take ten or go watch Cherry take care of them? And we got
the museum from here. If you'd like, all right, I'll go out
back. Can I bring you guys anything? Maybe like some Wolves band if
you have it. I think that would help you. I would love some
kisses from Cherry you want, I don't think right, bad time for that.
I'll make some lemonade or maybe some raspberry tea, and then I'll figure
out a cure so her kisses are safe. All right? That good?
I'll train your whatever they're called back there. I guess they're now your pack,
your muppet peck of wear cherries exactly. We got a regular muppets haunted
mansion here. Well take care, Agatha. Thank you for all your help
around the Garden Wall recall. I will say one more thing. Potatoes and
molasses taste awful together. But potato pancakes, all right, cousin molasses wait,
cherry drop him, drop him? Good girl, I gotta go.
She's eating someone. I gotta go. Bye bye. Oh that Agatha Vial.
Alright. So, like with mister Shack, look back. Before we
can really get into aisode one of the series proper, we have to.
You know, we wouldn't really be doing a justice without talking about the story
before the story in this episode zero talking about the original pilot. It's on
the Cartoon Network YouTube, so if you would like to watch along when we
cut on over to it, there will be a link in the description.
I would like to before we get into it, give a bit of history,
thanks to the Over the Garden Wall art book. Quick rundown of It
is basically that back in two thousand and six, Tom of the Unknown was
originally pitched to Cartoon Network by the pilots writer and director and the series creator
Patrick McHale. It was pitched to Cartoon Network with a show bible that was
constructed with all this like aged looking paper and all these intricate like paper cuts
and illustrations, and it really had the It instantly gave you like the vibe
of what this show's going to be like. It was super super like mysterious
and ancient looking and rustic and woodsy and all that good stuff. And I'm
not going to read directly from the book about what that original premise was.
The story revolves around two half brothers, Gregory and Walter, who accidentally bored
a train destined for the afterlife. W yes Walter after the conductor removes his
face to reveal a skeleton. Gregory and Walter jump from the train. In
mid journey, they wander into a forest where they encounter a devil named Old
Scratch, who tricks Gregory into a faustian deal. And you know how much
I love those Scratch promises to return them home if they read a book of
forgotten stories, the Tone of the Unknown. If the duo fail, they'll
be whisked away to quote live in the Dark Kingdom forever. There are Walter
many plot details there. I am glad they simplified, simplified when it became
a series. There's way less going on than that. The decision for it
to become a mini series came after this pilot was even made, so it
was imagined as a full series, and Network never would have a mini series
about that scary train, not that we can find anywhere except Pirate Age.
There's no record that they ever have had a mini series about a train.
They called it scary train or so. I think there's no way to tell
at this point. Yeah, prove it. You can't. Walter initially protests,
but he adds his signature to the contract when he realizes Gregory has already
signed in blood Old Scratch, then grabs the book and tears out all the
pages, flinging them into the air as otherworldly winds carry the sheets to the
far corners of the Land of the in between, the floating pages reminiscent of
autumn leaves or Slenderman pages. The episodes follow Gregory and Walter as they track
down the pages, with with with events from the stories coming to life in
unexpected ways. So that was kind of the initial idea of the through line
of the series, is that they have to track down all the pages of
the book, and each time they find a page, they're going to live
out whatever story that is. And it is coded in all of this like
old Like you said, it's like a mare kana of like it's a mixture
of a bunch of different things that we equate in our head as old timey
animation. Because yeah, in the Over the Garden Wall series, there's a
little Alice comedies, there's a little fleisher, there's a little wind in the
willows, there's a little like the backgrounds are like Pinocchio. It's like that
that early nineteen thirties style, like early Mickey Mouse, Betty Boop Alice kind
of things. There's like some nineteen twenties animation, in some nineteen fifties animation.
It's a nice melting pot of anything that feels vaguely old timy. It's
really it's like the scene in the scene in Snow White where she's running through
the forest and everything has a scary face, and that's the background design philosophy.
It's described by Mikhail as the place between life and death, dreams and
reality. Culturally, it is a mixture of American folklore, classic fairy tales,
ghost stories, and dreamland. The landscape is never ending and always changing,
but usually as the feel of either Colonial to Victorian New England or a
German countryside, which are like like like you see saying that, like,
oh, yeah, you know, it's around that range. That's a huge
range. Basically that means that it's grim fairy tales and also Ichabod Crane.
Yeah, that's a good point actually about Ichabod because the Wind in the Willows
and Ichabod the Headless Horsemen, those cartoons were paired together in the Adventures of
Ichabod and Mister Toad was the Disney film that connected those stories. And this
is really this is literally just what if those fused? What if those fused?
But then there's also German stuff like snow White, and there's also early
animation stuff like Betty Boop or the Alice comedies. Yeah, it's just and
then the the landscapes are based on stock photos of New England in the Fall,
as well as yes, colonial and German architecture. Oh maybe maybe mister
Toad doesn't need to fuse with Ichabod because on the Mister Toad Ride you go
to Hell. Toad just goes to Hell. Well that is kind of exactly
what's happening here. Yeah, mister Toad goes to Hell. The series The
Headless Horseman is there, and he is basically the promise. I mean,
there are a lot of people that draw like parallels between this and Dante's Inferno,
and you're at because I've read Dante's Inferno twice over. The garden Wall
is like the Bible and Dante's Inferno and Purgatory and lost and every possible like
allegorical thing this could be. It is, but the Time of Unknown is
very specifically a refuge for lost stories. And there are some ways that this
specific short touches on that that I really want to talk about after we watch
it. So when this was pitched in two thousand and six, Cartoon Network
wanted it to be a film instead of a series, which Michael did not
agree with, and so decided to focus on the second pitch that he had
called Space Planet while he worked on Flapjack, a show that a guy named
Alex worked on I think as well. Was also on that show a couple
people, and that's why Pat McHale voices one of the Hench Maniacs in the
Weird Mageddon arc. But he ended up scrapping that pilot as well because they
wanted to pare down the pilot he was developing by like four minutes. He
was like, I wouldn't know what to cut, so he just scrapped it.
He became the creative director on Adventure Time, a little show you might
have heard of, and he actually imported the character Bemo from Space Planet,
which I didn't know until I read this book that Jemo was just straight up
a character that was going to be in his other shows. I love that
so much, and that's very telling it as well. The combination of that
and the fact that he was also one of the forces behind the character the
Lyitch, who was like just a straight up, deathly serious villain on this
comedy show. Yeah, the fact that he came up with both Bemo and
the Litch kind of tells you everything you need to know about Over the Garden
Wall. Yeah. I mean that's like, that's Greg and the majority of
the darkness pretty much. Yeah. And then in twenty twelve, six years
after this original pitch Bible, he created an updated pitch Bible that reflects the
pilot that we are about to watch, the Tone of the Unknown. Harvest
Melody is a short film slash pilot written and directed by Pat McHale. It
premiered on September ninth, twenty thirteen, at the La Shorts Fest and at
various festivals throughout the year. I feel like that kind of tells you the
Cartoon Network already recognized that this was like a big deal. That like they
rather than dumping it, you know, into some internal project or putting it
online. Not that you know, putting pilots online is a completely valid way
of doing it, but you know, premiering at film festivals a pilot for
a cartoon on Cartoon Network might be unprecedented. I don't actually know, but
that feels like it signals that this is something big. Yeah, I mean
like they recognized the brilliance of what its potential had. Yep. It also
definitely functions on its own as a short film, which we'll get into right
after we watch it, so let's all check it out. So that that
gave me chills. Honestly, Like I forgot how good this? Oh?
I love that so much. John Crops, who's a man made out of
crops sort of the character of the day despite it being you know, a
one episode of fair this pilot. But yeah, but you can assume that
like his story gets wrapped up. Yeah, he is voiced by blues singer,
or rather blues country blues, vaudeville blues Calypso Hokum singer C. W.
Stone King, who looks exactly like how you'd picture him. Yeah,
he looks exactly like John Cropp. And the music for that was done by
the Blast Company formerly the Petrovic Blasting Company. They're a Los Angeles nouveau folk
band influenced by the music of the Balkans and New Orleans Dixie, although they
lean a little more into the New Orleans stuff in their ere ye. Well
for this one, particularly because it's all very uh like Antebellum South, is
that the era it is a very like music Man esque era that early nineteen
tens. Oh. I was going to place it as that one BoJack episode
They've got trouble out here in the Unknown, I mean, like down to
the like kiss behind the Hat, which happens in a lot of middle school
productions of The music Man and his bow Tie Spins. Yeah, it should
have. My main takeaway from all of this is that, and this applies
to the series as well. Also, the Blasting Company did the music for
the entire series. But my takeaway from this and the series as a whole
is that Gregory is the most well written child character I have ever seen in
media. I think I think that's true because like the first thing they do
with him here that really strikes me is like he runs off and you just
hear him scream, and so Wort and their friend Beatrice of course rushed to
see what the problem is. And he's eating an apple and he's happy,
but he's screaming like he's in pain, and he's like Greg, Greg,
Greg, Greg, are you what's well? Why are you screaming? Because
look what I've found. That's such a kid thing. And also just getting
fixated on like a particular thing like we're that day reminds me of a Max
and Ruby how Ruby or no. Max will always say a particular word or
phrase and will repeat it throughout the episode like that's where his mind is.
And today Greg wants to ride a goose like that's what he's talking about.
He's like, ynh, there's no geese around here. Like he's such a
He's such a kid. And I regret to infour of you that Colin Dean
is seventeen now, oh my god, not still a baby. You're lying
to me though, you're lying because I'm not that old. I'd be fine
with it if I were. But it's not true. He's so like specific
in how he's written. I would compare him to someone like I don't know,
like DW from Arthur and it was just who fears on obnoxious, But
like Greg, it never feels that way, like he he gets on the
character's nerves, but I feel like he never gets on your and er.
It's like I've met people who who he gets on the nerves of, but
one thing they get in the performance that usually is kind of glossed over with
child voice, acting like they don't want it, but it makes them sound
so much more like kids is the he doesn't always do it, but his
sentences are not paced correctly, like he doesn't know when to breathe. Yeah,
Like I remember I was watching something about uh with the behind the scenes
of Up and the kid who voices Uh Russell the boy scout, there was
like there were scenes where they had to be out of breath, so they
had him like run around the booth a bunch of times. He came back.
He's like, I'll feed him, I'll give him the food for him.
I'll lock him. I'll change his newspapers. I will. I was
great for those listening. It's a if you ever have to voice a child
character, taking a breath in the middle of a sentence does way more than
anything with your voice. If I were to just if I ready to just
talk like this like this, children don't know when to breathe. They're not
used to running out of breath yet, so they're never prepared for it.
Yeah, and the way he's written feels to me like watching someone else babysit
a kid, where it's like, if it were me having to look after
the kid, I probably would be a little more like troubled. But because
I'm just observing, it's funny. There's something so pure about the way he's
written, because like, yeah, with d W, DW was written to
be like that devious little sister. There is nothing d There's not a single
devious bone in Greg's body. Greg is like self sacrificing but kind and sweet
and just and just a kid. Yet it never it never feels overly wholesome
or like unrealistically wholesome. He feels like a kid, just feels like a
kid who was raised who's being raised right like who has parents and Elijah Wood
voices were and usually Oh my god, I hate celebrity voice acting. Because
Elijah Wood did star and potentially the biggest film trilogy of all time. He
plays Frodo Baggins in the Lord of the Rings films. He's a really legitimately
good voice actor that is excellently cast in this role. It is just his
normal voice. If you watch him in interviews, that's how he sounds,
but it's way more of the case. I hear people go that was Elijah
Wood, Then oh, Elijah Woods in this I should check it out.
Yeah, because in Lord of the Rings he's doing the accent the whole time.
I kind of hate the prodo voice. The wide eyed British child's voice
sounds so weird coming out of this nineteen year old man. Sam Sam,
look over here. I'm like, eh, I can't carry the tone of
the unknown, Greg, I can carry you. I got really into Lord
of the Rings last summer, and I would watch interviews with Elijah Wood and
hearing him talk in his normal voice, I was like, why you talk
about Lord of the Rings word? What do you know? Are you saying
that? Wouldn't be really into Lord of the rings. I'm just saying,
I was expecting Frodo to be talking about his role in the movies, not
Wort talking about how he likes them. Yeah, the drawings in Tone of
the Unknown are a lot less tied down than they are in Over the Garden
Wall Proper, And I love that, Like, there's so many weird that
you only really notice in comparison with the series proper. But there's so many
weird angles on words, face and weird expressions. And when he they get
the vegetable car from John Crops and be A Tris Goods were into licking like
the cucumber Wheel, and there's just this drawing of him with his tongue out.
It's really stupid looking. So in this pilot, Beatrice is voiced by
Natasha Lazio who he's best known for playing one of the lead roles of Another
period along with Jason Ritter. But I actually first heard of her when I
was making Ace Attorney anime at Bridge and Lara from the Frog, Kiss and
Gals podcast confessed that the voice that she was doing for me was an impression
of Natasha Laziero from another period. So I was very excited when I found
this tangentially garravity Falls related thing had a voice acting performance from someone who referenced
it for a voice acting performance since something I made. Yeah, also acted
alongside Jason Ritter in another period, right, Yes, and then well the
connections will continue later on. Yes, I love love love tone of the
unknown. It's great. It would be really stupid if you didn't accept because
this was this was before Cuphead was finished. There was no one trying to
aim to all of human history happened before Cuphead was finished. Yes, that's
true. But that's good though, because they were specifically avoiding crunch. I
don't mean to insult cup that, I mean to praise it. Yes,
it took ten years to make, but prior to that, nothing was really
doing this kind of Betty Boop sort of look outside of like little vignettes and
moments. And of course there was an inspiration to the look of My Life
is a teenage Robot, but not to this extent. Yeah. Well,
and also that was focusing on like the art deco of it all, and
this is blending it with like the German and colonial stuff they can but more
before it. Yeah, the movement is very Fleischer, but the drawings are
very paintings in your Grandma's house slash Wind in the Willows, taking things that
in other cartoons are there as a bit stylistic reference that and this is now
just the thesis of the entire show. Visually listening to the Blessing Companies music
and looking at these this backgrounds that are styled after Disney layouts from the forties
by background painter Nick Cross. Nick Cross and hearing the I just got to
play you a clip of John Craft's voice, because he's clearly not a voice
actor. He's clearly a blues singer, and his diction when he's speaking is
not good. But it doesn't feel like you're meeting a cartoon old farmer.
It feels like you're meeting a real old guitar playing farmer. What are you
folks doing out here in the middle of nowhere listening to Paul jon Kropps singing
his sad songs to himself and Nick Cross really leaned into the handmade feel of
it. I think in some of the backgrounds you can even see pencil sketches
of like underneath. Yeah, there's and obviously it all is very hand painted.
There's imperfections in the backgrounds to make them look hand painted, to give
that sort of forties Disney Pinocchio feel. Yes, as well as the soft
focus, which I love, love, love, love love. There's a
vasoline on the lens kind of look to the corners that they I think in
the show proper, I don't know if they do. I think they swap
it out for like a vignette effect, whereas yeah, darker on the corners,
which I love. Again, that's a throwback to just the way that
cartoons were presented, like in that era, to Nickelodeon's Yeah you put it,
you would look at the center of a cartoon. You didn't those corners
didn't even exist. You kids, in your cartoons have a corners. You
see John Crops lift up his skirts slightly to see his ankles, and he
winks at you, and that's the cartoon, the song he sings and usually
only can be you and no one else for me, And you know it.
That is legitimately a lost story, right, because the thesis of Tom
of the Unknown is that they are meeting the lost stories that are contained in
the tone. Yeah, that is a It was a pretty popular song from
the nineteen aughts. It was featured in the Wizard of Oz stage musical,
and it did not stand the test of time. It's not one of those
turn of the century classics your grandparents would listen or great grandparents I guess sorry,
would listen to. You know, if you google it, the first
couple of results are relating to the Blasting Company or ton of the Unknown,
so they legitimately found a lost story and interspersed those into the narrative as the
musical numbers and the Yeah, I love this so much. This whole thing
is so brilliant, like just a gorgeous piece of media. I remember,
prior to seeing this, just at the beginning, all of the promo stuff
for Over the Garden Wall had clips from Tome of the Unknown in it that
never showed up in there, so I was always wondering where the watermelon car
came from. It is a lost story in itself, and of course saw
the best clips on the theme song are from the Unaired Pilot. You never
got to say, that's so uh, you know, it became a story,
that's that's hilarious. I didn't even know that because in real time fandom,
we when we were about to do One Night for Halloween, dubbing all
ten episodes of Over the Garden Wall in succession. By the way, the
episodes are eleven minute long. The whole show is the length of a movie.
Just just watch it. Yeah, it's one hbox four Now we laughed,
so we don't start crying in real Tay foundo. We dubbed Tom of
the Unknown to use it to make a trailer for the Over the Garden Wall
stream because you can't really make trailers for improvised things. Yeah, right right.
We decided we'd get the cast that was going to be in the Over
the Garden Wall stream to dub Tom of the Unknown, just so we could
play clips at the end. I believe it's in our summer window. That
would makes sense. Yeah. So apparently the pilot was storyboarded solo by Pat
McHale, which explains why there are so many hilarious drugs that it's that it's
all done by one person, just blitzing through this nine minute pilot. But
from a story boarding perspective, I'm very excited for the series proper, because
I believe there are different board artists on every episode, a lot of whom
are famous in their own right for their cartoons. So we'll see a lot
of familiar names pop up in that category, and we'll see a lot of
returning dosins here to be to be trained as scare performers. Yeah, they
get turned back to humans now and we can wolves. That's not too bad.
Wolves. Scare wolves is so so extra because werewolves are already scary.
You don't need to make a Halloween version of that name. And now I'm
obsessed with it and I'm going to use it in something itselfing and bouncing around
my head the whole time. I just wasn't sure when to fit it in.
I'm obsessed with it. I'm gonna I'm just gonna write that down on
a piece of paper and use it in something besides this podcast official. Okay,
scare wolves. They're like werewolves, but scary for Halloween. The werewolves
are being retheved to scare wolves. Ello. Yeah. I always, whenever
looking at the animation for this, I always thought about those like Victorian greeting
cards. Yes, yes, like those Victorian Christmas cards. Yeah, And
that's what I was saying about paintings in your your grandma's house, because there
is there is influence from early nineteen hundreds animation. But then there's also influence
from late eighteen hundreds paintings, right, So it's like if a Betty Boop
type or a Wind in the Willows type were somehow looney tunes back in actioning
around classical Turn of the century art, it's, yeah, like paintings of
autumn landscapes. And then the colonial architecture is from the seventeen hundreds and sixteen
hundreds, but then the German Hansel and Gretel type architecture is from like the
eleven hundreds. Yeah, I mean it's also well it's INCREDI I guess,
yeah, now you mentioned it. It's incredibly hansl and Gretel. It's just
two kids wandering around. Oh yeah, I mean, and that's where the
German influence comes from, as well as snow White. Oh yeah, well
yeah, it's that and Pinocchio is also all those stories are like, don't
be bad, or you'll get eaten by something in the forest. Kids.
So the interesting thing about all those German fairy tales is they started from a
matriarchal standpoint and then were translated into a patriarchal I could I could go.
This is one of my so originally, all of those stories, all of
those fairy tales that we know, have been filtered so many times through so
many different things, filtered through translators from German, filtered through the Grim Brothers,
from other people, and those stories were told from other people to the
Grim Brothers. But they started out as a way for little old ladies to
walk around the countryside spreading new laws because not everybody was literate, so they
would basically put up the laws. The little old ladies would get together and
be like, oh, well, how are we gonna tell this to the
people. Oh, we'll tell a story about a little girl who's walking through
the woods and a stranger is talking to her and it scared a scared Yeah,
so it's like, what happened to him? He died? So yeah.
All of these stories were like stories about laws trying to keep people safe
and protected, and then they've been filtered through so many different things. These
people are so stupid, How are we going to keep them from dying?
How are we going to keep them from dying? They like hearing stories,
Ay, what's your story? And they all tell them stories and they'll apply
it to their life. And that's what I hope to accomplish with the rest
of this podcast. I hope to live. You know, we tell ourselves
stories in order to live, some say, but others say we tell ourselves
stories in order to not die. And those are different. Those are very
different stories. I prefer the not die stories to the live stories personally,
they're way more entertaining. Now, don't you go diet. Now, there's
so many ways to do it, but you shouldn't do any of them.
There are several different ways you can die. Avoid them. Was that just
the old world German version of the DARE program? Yeah? Absolutely, those
were. There are so many ways for you to die. We're gonna describe
them in detail. You didn't reimagine absolutely any German folk tale as an anti
drugs PSA like Little Red diding Hood wandering through the woods, but here comes
the big Bad Wolf. Hey kid, you want to try some flowers.
I've never seen flowers like these. You see that that big bad wolf.
That big bad Wolf's gonna try to offer some drugs, But don't let them
do it to your kids. Despite being a fellow canine, there is no
relation between mcruff and the Big Bad Wolf. I actually grew up on the
same street as the Big Bad Wolf, and then I narked on him and
that started me down my path. We got caught in the same bust,
but they gave me a deal if I read it out on a Big Bad
Wolf. McGruff is the Tim Allen of cautionary dog characters. Yes, and
he has beautiful eyes. We tried to get McGruff as a scary actor,
but he was the care wolf. He said, I don't do scary stories.
Okay, So I'm excited for the rest of the show. It's gonna
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about, a lot of great vas talk about, and great actors. And
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