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Well, welcome back, and we're
talking to Goatree, who has been on

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with us several times before, and
we wanted to talk about cyber Polygon cybersecurity

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issues and things like that, and
we're going to talk about that. But

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as I connected with Goatree, he
said, I've got something to say about

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what you've been talking about this morning, so let's start with that. Welcome

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Gotree, thanks for joining us.
Well, good morning, David A.

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Saul was great. Great to be
on with you. It's like I was

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saying, you get on these subjects. I had a show prepared and I

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listen to you and it is so
strange. We're working on projects like you

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were talking about and the stupidity of
everything that's going on right now, and

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I thought, well, hey,
you're on a trend. Let's run with

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it. So is it artificial intelligence
that you're working with some of that stuff

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that they faked the demo? What
is it that you're working on the alliance

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with what I talked about? Absolutely, it is artificial intelligence, but it's

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not what people consider artificial intelligence.
Instead of turning it into the master,

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it's being turned into the slave.
And secondly, just so everybody knows Artificial

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intelligence is what the unwashed masses here
is. If you want to talk to

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serious people about it, it's advanced
intelligence. Oh you start dropping bard advanced

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intelligence, you're going to get the
serious people talk to you. Oh okay,

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Yeah, I thought it was hallucinating
intelligence. Honestly, Yeah, I

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don't. Yeah, it's like one
great big acid trip. To quote George

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Carlin. So, I know you
can't talk about specific details necessarily because of

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what you're working on, but I
mean, what can you tell us about

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what you're doing with it? Okay? Well, actually I can because a

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strange I was preparing for your show, I happened to get a phone call

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and I warned you. I said, you know, I'm bring to drop

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some stuff out there for David,
and he's like, Okay, go for

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it. So you know how you
were showing those pictures of those aborted babies,

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and how that political yeah person is
exploiting it just goes to school safety.

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And I'm sure Alex Jones you know, speaking of that, we're coming

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up on your anniversary of you and
Alex blowing you off separate ways. Yeah,

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yeah, yeah, we're coming up
to March thirteenth. Now I know

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what you're talking about when I got
fired. Yeah, but we went our

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separate ways in March, but it
was before I got booted out the doors

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for security came around and took my
stuff and escorted me out of the place.

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But yeah, it all began back
in March thirteenth, but I think

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it was December the seventeenth that I
got officially escorted out. It could be.

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I'll never forget that morning you taket
me. Alex fired me, and

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I'm like, what is he stoned
or drunk or something? Letting tuber up

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and a sure him in the morning. Well, i'd been warned. I

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can say I'd been warned and I
didn't care. You know, It's like,

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I'm not going along with this stuff
anyway. But so yes, so

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tell us getting back to advanced intelligence, okay, or abortion. You were

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about to say something about abortion,
I think, yeah, well, all

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the dotails into each other. It's
not about abortion. It was about these

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school shootings and these kids. Children
seem to be moving targets and extendable right

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now. I mean, I don't
know where this line of thinking caught fire.

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And one of the projects that we're
working on is securing schools not only

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schools, but facilities. I mean, if you have the money, it

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probably could apply to your house.
And it's non lethal. Is this one

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where detect weapons on people using artificial
intelligence? Yes, inact, that's one

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aspect of it. But the other
aspect is deploy is like incorporating quantum magnetics

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and levitation, I know it is. Yeah, what is quantum magnetics and

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levitation? Tell us about that?
First of all, that sounds interesting.

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Well, basically you are installing an
invisible shield around the facility to magnetics and

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nothing to penetrate it once it's activated. Well, we're really in the initial

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stages of exploring this. Wow.
But instead of locking the doors and locking

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the kids in the lockdown, you
just say shields up and that's it.

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Well yeah, but now if you're
if you're intruders within the shield, we've

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got things that uh, basically so
far from the envisionment of it, is

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along the walls of the First off, your your security officer are principle or

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whoever designated security person is, has
like a sleep if they put on and

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they can control every aspect of about
the system. That there's an intruder in

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the building and you can't lock them
out. You can give them a really

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good nasty blast of uh, some
quantum material and knocks them on their butt,

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and you just leisurely go over there
and take the arts, their assault

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or rifle away from them and do
whatever tool. Maybe you could just play

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a Yoko Ono song or something disabled. Listen, don't don't tempt me.

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We were talking about that before.
But that story, that's an interesting story.

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But okay, so how do you
disable somebody with quantum material? What

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is the quantum material that you're shooting
at them? Well, okay, you're

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playing with magnetics. You've got to
remember these are waves and you know we

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were you were talking about Yoko on
them. We've talk about playing with the

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brown dude, you know them with
some quantum magnetic it's going to turn them

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for a loop. Yeah, yeah, I guess it would. I don't

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know, I've never I've never been
Taisard with quantum quantum nobody. Yeah,

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that's very interesting. I'm not sure
who begin anything to be on that experiment.

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Maybe Biden will mandate the military to
do it. You know, it's

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seems to be a theme with right, so you know, first layer of

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protection of like the bear you're in
then that then they got the diving tables.

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I was told when I took my
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we just did a trial and air
with Navy divers. You know, it's

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like, okay, you go down
this level and you come up, and

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you stay at that level for a
certain amount of time, just trial and

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Error's like, you know, you
bring the guy up. It's like,

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no, that didn't work yet,
even a little bit further down because this

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guy's all bent. I mean,
it's a but yeah, y'all doin that.

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Yeah, yeah, y'all give him
this pool. Be a benefit for

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a little while. That's all we
need. Yeah. Oh man. So

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uh well, that's interesting. That's
interesting because I've already seen some stuff where

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you know they're doing. It was
some Navy seals are put together a company

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and they were selling the services to
churches and to schools and saying, you

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know, we're going to UH and
like use artificial intelligence to try to analyze

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if somebody who's got a weapon on
them or something. And then I guess,

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you know, call somebody who's going
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part of the UH program, right
there, is what you just said,

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it is uh identifying the intruder before
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to the facility. So in theory, if you've got AI giving a warning,

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which man, I don't think I'd
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I am a walking correct, But
anyhow, it's up shields and uh basically

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uh identify as an intruder and that
they're looking at other ways drone technology and

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whatnot. Where in theory prevent these
school shootings. And yeah, obviously for

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a while, you know, there
was another AI that was called anticipatory intelligence,

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and they were trying to scope this
stuff, which is a little bit

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of what you're talking about. When
they first started doing it a couple of

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decades ago, you know, they
had AI that was watching people walking around

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and things like that, and call
swat team on somebody who's changing his flat

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tire because this guy is suspicious.
He's walking around this car. He's now

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squatted down. I can't see it
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of the car that he was changing
a tire, and so they called a

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swat team on him. So,
you know, hopefully it's getting better than

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that. They call it artificial intelligence. And then you had the advanced intelligence.

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Yeah, yeah, letting you on
and then keep playing with artificial intelligence.

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And you know they didn't salty.
I'm sure he enjoys all that,

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but it's the advanced intelligence you have
to look out for. Yeah, and

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so I guess we've got a lot
of different ais. We've got artificial intelligence,

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advanced intelligence, anticipatory intelligence. And
I would call the schools a boarding

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intelligence. Well, it's funny if
funny you say that, because this is

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the system is not as expensive as
you may think. I think in in

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theory, we would like to keep
it around a million dollars to protect a

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school or government building or basically your
dog if you wanted to. But there's

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no interest in it. It was
like you were talking about with these abortions

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people seem to have, and I
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looking at private people's money, so
that you can't allow. Don't have no

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pitch for that one. It's just
where we're trying the government to uh help

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us out with it. But uh, it's like these like you were saying,

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with this planned parenthood, they've got
money ringing on them. What do

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they do? They kill children?
Yea, we are we kind of do

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save children and the duality of it, and we're using technology to do it.

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Uh, some of those you know, you're you're sitting there talking about

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it. I felt like temper building
and just so happened that I do want

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you to put this guy on your
show one of these days because he's he'll

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represent it properly. He's the one
I was telling you about. But uh,

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you know, my tempers building because
he's out looking not you know,

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he's trying to get funding to actually
do something that will protect children, and

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you're sitting here talking about the planned
parenthood getting all this forgiveness and all this

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money that when John, what do
they do? They kill children? And

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it's it's like, what in the
world is going on with our society?

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Yeah, well, I just take
a look at the military industrial complex.

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I mean that's you know, then, as Juliana Sience said, the goal

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is not to win a war.
The goal is to perpetuate a war,

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to have it go forever. And
you just have Zelensky who comes in and

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you know, Biden decrees that he's
going to give him, I forget how

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many millions of dollars, but you
know, Congress is supposed to approve this

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stuff. I mean, we just
are so what it is so out of

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control, and the weapons that are
being sent to Ukraine or leaking like a

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sieve and going everywhere, including to
terrorist organizations, and of course the all

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the weapons that were left behind in
Afghanistan or going to terrorist organizations. I

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mean, we literally are always and
all of these conflicts, we're arming both

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sides of the conflict and knowingly doing
so. They continue to put the money

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there, no accountability whatsoever for any
of this stuff. And so yeah,

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it's all about killing people and you
know, on both sides, and they

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just keep it going. It's amazing. Well that's technology and theory could apply

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to individuals where yeah, you have
to shoot the tempes all day long and

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not arm a person. But they're
more fixated on taking weapons away then the

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next level solution, well even to
take away even take away bullet proof vests,

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right, got to take away bullet
yeah yeah, and you you know,

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you shouldn't be allowed to sell an
insert that somebody could put in their

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backpack and then use their backpack as
a shield. Oh no, one can't

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have that. Well, I mean
it's harder to kill them. Yeah,

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and that skill stuff. Remember,
yeah, I talked about that at one

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point time, at one point and
for wards, I don't know if they

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still seld or not. They had
a bulletproof thing and it was a size

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that you could insert it into your
backpacking. And there was a situation where

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this guy had had mental illness issues
and he'd gone to the FBI and he

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said, you know, I need
to take a look at me or whatever.

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But he couldn't get them interested.
And he winds up getting on a

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plane and Alaska and flying to Florida, and he was able to go through

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all the airport security and somehow he
took a pistol with him and they never

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caught it. Of course, you
know TSA's failing significantly many times. But

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he gets to the he gets to
Florida and he starts shooting people in the

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baggage claim area. And so I
said, you know, well, if

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you had one of these things in
your backpack that you could take on with

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you on the plane. Says,
they won't let you a normal person take

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a take a gun, but they'll
let a psycho take a gun. I

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said, at least you could use
this as a shield. And I was

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attacked by the Daily Beast or somebody
I said, they said, look at

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this, he's shamefully profiteering off of
this shooting. It's like, what's that

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profiteering off of his shooting? It's
crazy anyway, Yeah, you know what's

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nice. So we're profiteering off these
school shooting. That's right. We're living

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in crazy land. Nothing makes sense
anymore, that's right. I was struck

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by that when I was doing the
research. You know, you said you

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wanted to do a cybersecurity and I
was struck by just how absolutely ridiculous this

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is. Last night, when we
were talking about this, I sent you

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that article I had written from twenty
sixteen addressing infrastructure stuff that everybody's going with.

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The Chinese are doing, the hackers
are doing it. All they've done

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is change the names. They've changed
the technological names. And this is almost

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like ten years ago. It's like, any people, here's how you fix

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it. And you know, so
frustrating. It is like this every project

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where you're trying to advance things and
do something that that's a benefit something they

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didn't do. It is beneficial to
society. If you're ridiculed for yeah,

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yeah, is like you with the
school backpack. Wait a minute, you're

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just trying to save a kid.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you you

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send me the article. This is
something you wrote back in I think it

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was twenty sixteen, if I'm correct, Black Energy three, Trojan and the

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Ukrainian infrastructure attack. Now we've just
had in the last couple of days the

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biggest Ukrainian infrastructure attack that they have
seen. But you talked about this,

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what is it seven or eight years
ago? And it was something that happened

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December fifteenth through January of two thousand
and I'm sorry, December the twenty six

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twenty fifteen through January the second,
twenty sixteen, as you wrote, a

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massive worldwide surge in cyber attacks.
I truly thought a global cyber war had

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kicked off. I'm still suspicious if
this was rehearsal for a big show.

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And here we are nearly a decade
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talking about it? Yeah, well, you see, you see that time

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frame that was used on that Ukrainian
exploit. That time frame is coming up

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because people don't understand this. In
the holidays, everybody picks off. So

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from about December twenty through January second
from third this is hackers. Fun time.

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Everybody's off, everybody's off. You've
got the sports trained guys sitting there,

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the guys strayed out of the the
Internet school of cybersecurity with their you

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know, their degree, sitting there
and they don't know what's going now.

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I mean they very protect their own
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And this is going to go off
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going to go off between December twenty
and January second and third, and idly

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enough, you get to buy my
movie out and then you've got all these

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warnings, you know, red lights, warn'ting warning, and it makes me

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suspicious and shit, all like eight
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names. It's no longer that packer. Yeah, it's perfect. I've got

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a well thirty second clip here about
people talking about the Washington Post saying there's

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a whole bunch of Chinese cyber attacks. I want to talk to you about

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that. Here's a thirty second clip. So, guys, John here,

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are you ready for the massive cyber
attack because it could have just started.

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China has now alleged to have attacked
the US infrastructure. Hackers affiliated with China's

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People's Liberation Army had infiltrated critical services
here in the US. This is one

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point one million views in the last
couple hours. Every mainstream media outlet is

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talking about this. What they're not
talking about is this eerie connection between Barack

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Obama's movie that just came out and
I watched it last night. It's pretty

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shocking because everything that they were talking
about in this movie is now happening today.

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Yeah. I talked about that yesterday. And of course the little clip

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that I played as cyber Apocalypse has
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they gave to Barack Obama Michelle Obama, and what they produced was this cyber

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apocalypse and the little clip there is
like and one more thing, don't trust

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any white people. You know this? So, I mean, that's what

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they're selling, racism in the midst
of an apocalypse. I mean that these

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people will never stop with their hatred
of white people. It's amazing to me.

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But yeah, what's going on?
I mean, is it really something?

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How How do they know? For
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it's a Washington Post. And I'm
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vaults seven and you know that's been
put out a few years ago, and

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that was the tools from our government
about how they could spoof to be anybody

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that they wanted. They could look
like they were any country, anyone that

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they want to do when they hacked
into other people. And now not only

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the manual, but then eventually the
code got published. And so how can

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anybody know that this is the Chinese? For example? I mean it could

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be the NSA, could be the
CIA, right, how do they know?

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Well? Absolutely, you know,
uh, the Chinese. Now let's

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put this so this is where it
gets all uh really to the point where

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he's confusing. It's convoluted. But
how do you know that's Chinese? Haven't

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a recruited a diversity hire to do
it? Mm hmmm, Yeah, it

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could be something simple, Yeah,
you know, uh what was that congressman,

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the gucy one? Uh the straw
which one well da of communist Spice.

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So I mean, for all I
know, maybe he's fined. I

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better not say that. Yeah.
Yeah, point man is he had some

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Chinese honeypot or something that was he
was shocking up. Yeah yeah, Eric

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swallwell, yeah, whatever became of
that, he center home said hey,

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we can't do this no more,
what happened to that? I mean,

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yeah, we don't care, right
they who maybe wholesome hearings on it,

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but like hearing that they hold,
they never do anything about it. But

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yeah, you're right, it could
be the very old fashioned type of thing

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that's happening. And again if they
break into something, you know, you

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look at the Washington Post and you
look at the fact, Oh it's Chinese

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that are happening. We've got cyber
attacks that are happening. Okay, well,

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maybe there are cyber attacks that are
happening, and you can speak to

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that if you see that kind of
stuff happening. But if there are cyber

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that's the only thing we know,
the cyber attacks that are happening for them

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to identify the Chinese, we know
that is who our government wants to identify

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as the threat in all particular cases. They want to use it to establish

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a precedent to shut down social media
websites with TikTok. So, of course

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the Chinese are going to be behind
anything that's bad, But they don't know.

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I mean, there's absolutely no way
that they can know, right,

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No, it's trying to form a
narrative. Yeah, you know, The

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old school terminology for this was IoT, you know, Internet of Things.

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Yeah, I don't know what grand
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this, it's very self serving and
using. When they change the name,

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it's like like that packers are now
threat opportunities or threat something. Basically,

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they've been doing this since the dawn
of computers, but we've got to change

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the name of them so that there
was less in the note. We can

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keep our jargon exclusive and other people
don't know what we're talking about. You

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see. So this is what these
guys are doing, is trying to hike

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this up to the point where they
have exclusivity on the narrative. But going

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back to the infrastructure, we did
a ten test I don't know, twenty

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fifteen, twenty It was a wayback. It was for a pipeline gas pipeline

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like Colonial, except it was an
insider to do it. We took a

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theater line down with a hammer.
A connectic attack, right, a connectic

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attack, Yeah, the Meanderthal attack. What it was. These allowed tea

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carts or bout the size of a
credit card. And have you never had

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a sprinkler system at the housework's housing? These little plastic of containers where you

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just pop it open the sixth time
and all that. Well, I think

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they housed this when they had a
little cliff up there. That was the

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security. You walk up there with
a pair of wirecutter, says, I'll

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whack it with a hammer, and
it just starts a whole system of the

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domino effect and pretty soon you've taken
down miles of a pipelight. Wow,

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just with a hammer. But they
haven't improved this. It's still all these

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years later, and we could write
a finger fall off telling these people about

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this, and he's still there,
and you've told me that story about one

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industry after the other. They'll hire
you to identify a threat, you know,

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figure out where our vulnerabilities are and
you know so, and then report

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back to us about how you were
able to break this system here. And

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then you report back to them about
how easily the system was broken, and

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they do nothing about it. They
wait till the factory across the street from

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the exploded and they'll say, well, we're better do something about our security.

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So you give them the solutions or
whatnot, and they go, well,

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this costs a lot, maybe we'll
just well lucky, I'm feeling lucky

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across. Yeah, I don't know. And so we see this over and

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over right now again, going back
to this twenty sixteen thing, you said

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you were suspicious that it was rehearsal
for something that was bigger, and we've

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got the World Economic Forum talking about
something that is bigger. Here's our favorite

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Bond villain, uh talking about what
else happened when I grew up? Hang

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On? When I grew up.
I want to be like Charles Schwab for

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complex hang On, which would bring
to a complete haunt to see powers of

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blind transportation to the services our society
as a whole. Wow. The COVID

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nineteen houses would be seen in this
respect as a small dist films in comparison

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to a major side on an.
This guy can barely contain his enthusiasm,

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you know, and he does everything
except go at the end of it.

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What a curtain villain hescome, isn't
he does? There's good use for I

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put that on there with him,
exactly exactly. Yeah, it's so you

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know, he's warning everybody, he's
warning everybody. But you look at what

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they have in the World Economic Form
about this, and it's almost like,

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you know, well, if you
could do this, then you could get

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that. You know, it's almost
a manual, you know, like everybody

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says nineteen eighty four was not supposed
to be annual, but they use it

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that way. Then I can imagine
that they're using his cyber polygon thing as

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a as a manual for what they
want to do as well. There's no

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different than Dark Winter. Remember that's
right when you were on top of that.

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I remember, I think you know
what, I sent that to you

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way back when you with the first
broadcast you did. It was like January

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third, I don't remember if it
was eighteen or seventeen. And you know

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how to cheat. You caught over
that. Well, you're a conspiracy theory,

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you're this, you're that, and
suddenly boom, you were the leading

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authority when they kicked it off.
Yeah, that's right. Yeah, and

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you told me you were seeing a
lot of chat about Dark Winter two and

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so yeah, so let's talk about
that. And you know, is this

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going to be a real thing or
is it going to be another dress rehearsal.

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Are they going to amp it up
to the next stage? And I

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think they ampted it up to the
next stage. But yeah, it was

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a dark Winter too, and you
know they had practiced it for twenty years,

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essentially nineteen years. Well, klass
Swap sitting here, class closs Peop

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wants to call in Charles Across.
It's basically so excited about the plans that

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they have for everything. He's telegraphing
what they have planned in the future.

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Yeah. Yeah, then he'll take
you, He'll take credit for Yeah,

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I warned everybody. It's like you
probably from the blueprints, you know,

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so different than the Dark Dark Winter. You know, these guys are so

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excited about it that they're telegraphing it
years ahead of time. And uh this

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like they click you played. He
can't contain himself. It's like, look

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what we've done. Just imagine we're
going to see some global power because and

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people are like, well he's not
just ignoring and the guy saying, they're

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clearly telegraphing what they have planned.
Yeah, yeah, and it's just a

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digital dark winner, Yes, yes, exactly. And we go back to

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again, let's that was twenty sixteen. We talk a little bit more about

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that. But if you go back
to just this last week, stories about

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what happened in Ukraine, major cyber
attack on the Ukrainian mobile operator disrupts banking

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services and air raid sirens and all
the rest of this stuff. They said,

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this is the They've had a lot
of different cyber attacks since the war

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has happened, but this is the
one that had the most impact on anything.

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Damaged infrastructure at a mobile operator,
forcing the company to shut down network

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connections to contain the incident. They've
got about twenty five million customers there and

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the Kiev Internet thing that was affected, and so it shut down communications,

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which also included people being able to
be warned about air raid sirens and anything.

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But it shut down the banking industry. That was the key thing that

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they did this last week, and
so it had a lot of effect.

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And it seems like it's always,
at least so far, not necessarily a

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direct attack on the grid or on
a pipeline, or on a bank,

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or on planes, but they get
these ancillary systems that everybody depends on and

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they can't operate their business or safely
operate their pipeline or safely operate planes to

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attack those things to take down the
whole system, and then everybody says,

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oh, well, if we don't
have that, we just shut the system

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down, we can't do anything.
Well, yeah, it's been that way

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for years. People have been lulled
asleep on this, and those of us

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that are right here said, hey, hey guys, you know, here's

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here's a real problem you might want
to look at. Let's solve it.

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It's like, well, you're a
conspiracy theorist. Go way, well,

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here's the data. We're not interested, we're busy, and that's the way

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the games played. And yet you've
got to take you on the other side.

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Bill Gates, who I knew since
was poor. He was poor.

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Look at what he this guy's doing. He's out there wreaking anarchy, destruction,

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the whole home nine yards and everybody's
taking him like some sort of big

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a party. Yeah yeah, and
uh, you know, Bill g he

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don't need money. People throw money
at him. So he go on destroy

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and kill and he goes back to
what want to start the conversation with is

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what in the world are these people
thinking? Yes, yes, exactly.

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Now. You know, when when
you look at this and you're trying,

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somebody calls you when they've had a
Yeah, a lot of times they'll call

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you to again try to find vulnerabilities
and identify them. For them. But

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a lot of times they'll call you
after something has happened to do an investigation,

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and you've told me many times that
it's usually an inside job. Surprising,

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isn't that interesting? Yeah, talk
a little bit about that, you

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know, the motivation of these ransomware
attacks or some other things like that,

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it's usually somebody on the inside or
more. Ka. Well, let's say

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you like to go on. Well, I gotta be careful with that one.

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Let's let's say you're you're okay,
David, You're you're looking at a

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retirement at your age, and you're
you're an executive of let's say ABC Pipeline,

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and you're like, I'm really disappointed
in my retirement package. How can

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I fix this? Oh? I
know I can internally launch a ransomware attack

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and select millions of dollars. Hey, I just solve my retirement problem.

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Yeah, you get that free?
Do you want to fire me while I

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quit? I retired, free room
and board in the prison for twenty years

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if they catch it, right,
that's one retirement way. Well, yeah,

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when's the last time you read about
a hacker going to prison for anything?

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That's right? That's right? Yeah, I mean, look, at

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the Colonial pipeline. When's the last
time you heard anything about that? Suddenly

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they discovered it and they drop it
like a hot potato or take the note

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ten all that guy, Well,
I mean you had the Holy East Coast

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without gasoline for days or a week, that's right, and that's some pretty

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extreme stuff. But you didn't know
about anybody getting charged to anything on that,

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that's right, that's right, or
even you know, if you have

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a government system like you know,
the FAA shut down as many planes as

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they had on nine to eleven after
math, and and that was the not

407
00:32:17.000 --> 00:32:21.119
tam system and that went on for
something like twelve hours or something like that,

408
00:32:21.200 --> 00:32:22.640
and they said, oh, you
know, it's not a hack.

409
00:32:22.720 --> 00:32:27.319
We haven't been hacked. We can't
get hacked. And then immediately after they

410
00:32:27.319 --> 00:32:30.039
came back online, Canada went down
for the same thing. And that's this

411
00:32:30.519 --> 00:32:36.640
auxiliary system that notifies everybody if there's
some kind of a problem at an airport

412
00:32:36.880 --> 00:32:39.279
or a runway or something like that. And when they when that thing broke

413
00:32:39.359 --> 00:32:42.920
down, they just said, all
right, ground the planes. And so

414
00:32:43.440 --> 00:32:47.079
I always have believed it'd be interesting, too interested to know what you think

415
00:32:47.079 --> 00:32:51.599
about this. But I've always believed
that the not TAM shut down at the

416
00:32:51.680 --> 00:32:54.079
FAA and then following with that with
Canada and there's only lasted about an hour

417
00:32:54.119 --> 00:32:58.920
and a half, but it happened
sequentially. I've always believed that that was

418
00:32:58.960 --> 00:33:02.559
a cyber at that they didn't want
to admit to. Sure. I mean

419
00:33:04.240 --> 00:33:08.200
I've sent your videos and articles of
people literally sitting on the plane hacking it,

420
00:33:09.640 --> 00:33:14.839
you know, I mean you've got
to be pretty low IQ to crash,

421
00:33:14.880 --> 00:33:16.160
you know, be sitting on a
plane on a crash which flying on.

422
00:33:16.359 --> 00:33:21.240
But I mean they did, it
doesn't exist. I guess they got

423
00:33:21.279 --> 00:33:25.000
a grimblac app for that, right, just like the Twilight Zone, right,

424
00:33:27.079 --> 00:33:30.160
you know, I mean, why
as well start writing movies about this

425
00:33:30.319 --> 00:33:35.839
stupidity, but it would be probably
be more productive. But you know,

426
00:33:37.119 --> 00:33:42.119
let's go back to you remember the
Norfolk Southern train wrecked up in uh Ohio.

427
00:33:42.240 --> 00:33:45.559
Yeah, and how we were looking
at that and I sent you that

428
00:33:45.680 --> 00:33:51.480
clip of this railroad worker opened up
one of the shanties and here's the computer

429
00:33:51.599 --> 00:33:54.920
system, here's the here's the radio. Oh look the passwords are written on

430
00:33:54.960 --> 00:34:00.680
the wall. Yeah exactly, yeah, yeah I heard to this. You

431
00:34:00.720 --> 00:34:02.000
know, you just walk into the
little shed, and it's like, let's

432
00:34:02.000 --> 00:34:05.440
not We're gonna keep losing this thing, and I keep getting calls in the

433
00:34:05.440 --> 00:34:07.559
middle of the night. Let's just
write the password on the wall here.

434
00:34:07.719 --> 00:34:10.639
Yeah, I can't remember the password. Let's write it down the wall.

435
00:34:10.679 --> 00:34:14.119
So all you do is cut the
lock off the little shack. You go

436
00:34:14.199 --> 00:34:16.800
in there. You can play on
the radio, you know, it's like

437
00:34:17.760 --> 00:34:22.079
whatever you decide to broadcast on radio, or you can tap on the computer

438
00:34:22.159 --> 00:34:28.880
and have trains doing all kinds of
fun things. And you know, look,

439
00:34:29.000 --> 00:34:34.239
look at what happened in Ohio.
Is the impact that had. And

440
00:34:34.320 --> 00:34:37.400
yet you can cut the lock off
of a shack and pretty much seized control

441
00:34:37.440 --> 00:34:44.239
of a railroad line. Yeah,
oh yeah. You know. Do you

442
00:34:44.320 --> 00:34:53.039
remember Adam's family where Gomez is always
crashing his toy trains? Yeah, well,

443
00:34:53.239 --> 00:34:58.599
you know you could be doing that
in real life. He's so insane.

444
00:34:59.519 --> 00:35:02.840
Right to put upgrades in there,
and remember, passwords is hard,

445
00:35:02.960 --> 00:35:09.360
and we cannot do hard things in
this country anymore. Yeah. It's with

446
00:35:10.239 --> 00:35:14.639
all the signs alongside the highway road, you see them all the time,

447
00:35:15.119 --> 00:35:19.880
warning zombies ahead, warning you know, t rex or whatever. They put

448
00:35:19.880 --> 00:35:22.559
all kinds of crazy messages on there. And the reason that that happens is

449
00:35:22.599 --> 00:35:25.679
because they ship them all with the
same password and nobody wants to even change

450
00:35:25.679 --> 00:35:29.440
it. You know that the default
password is right there in the manual as

451
00:35:29.480 --> 00:35:32.159
you sent me some of some of
the stuff showing that they've got the password

452
00:35:32.159 --> 00:35:37.840
in the manual for the other equipment
as well. Absolutely so, I mean,

453
00:35:37.360 --> 00:35:42.679
but it's not just that industry,
it's everything. These are the back

454
00:35:42.719 --> 00:35:46.159
doors, yeah, these default passwords, and it doesn't matter if they disclose

455
00:35:46.199 --> 00:35:51.239
what they are or not. It
is the back doors that control the system.

456
00:35:51.960 --> 00:35:59.519
So instead of relinquishing when I sell
you of software, instead of relinkquish

457
00:36:00.000 --> 00:36:04.519
control of it, I have got
the back door. Mm hm. We

458
00:36:04.599 --> 00:36:07.280
may not. You the owner of
it may not, but I do.

459
00:36:07.679 --> 00:36:10.320
Yes, yes, And you've pointed
out you know, there's different levels of

460
00:36:10.320 --> 00:36:13.880
it. You know, the developers
will put in the back door, the

461
00:36:13.920 --> 00:36:17.880
owner might have it zone you know, access with a password. Governments will

462
00:36:17.920 --> 00:36:23.519
get their own access to it.
So there's all these different people have access

463
00:36:23.599 --> 00:36:29.960
to different aspects of the software there
with the back doors, and you know

464
00:36:30.039 --> 00:36:32.480
it is uh, it's amazing to
me because as we look at our as

465
00:36:32.519 --> 00:36:38.400
our system becomes more and more complex, and even with the extent as Jack

466
00:36:38.480 --> 00:36:42.719
Lawson, who I've talked too many
times about all this stuff, he says,

467
00:36:42.960 --> 00:36:45.719
you know, you look at how
we've got our just in time delivery,

468
00:36:45.039 --> 00:36:52.880
and so that means that at all
these different stages of product manufacturing as

469
00:36:52.920 --> 00:36:55.599
well as delivery, you've got all
these different thinks there, and all you

470
00:36:55.639 --> 00:37:00.679
have to do is break transportation or
break one of the those links, and

471
00:37:00.039 --> 00:37:05.000
you got the system all balled up. And then we saw, after he

472
00:37:05.039 --> 00:37:07.239
and I talked about that, we
saw what they did with the lockdown,

473
00:37:07.880 --> 00:37:12.400
and so we have this very fragile
system of distribution and manufacturing that is very

474
00:37:12.440 --> 00:37:16.559
complicated and distributed. And then we
also have all of this automation and computer

475
00:37:16.639 --> 00:37:22.519
programs which are all very vulnerable,
very vulnerable, even the extent were talking

476
00:37:22.559 --> 00:37:24.679
about earlier about Vault seven. They
stole that from the CIA, the NSA,

477
00:37:24.760 --> 00:37:29.480
all these guys who are supposed to
be the most sophisticated, they got

478
00:37:29.519 --> 00:37:32.920
hacked and had their stuff stole.
And we've had all the Pentagon personnel files

479
00:37:34.320 --> 00:37:37.400
hacked and stolen and things like that. So none of this stuff is secure.

480
00:37:37.960 --> 00:37:42.079
And so the question is you know, as he pointed out, as

481
00:37:42.239 --> 00:37:45.400
the World Economic Form put out,
and let me just show people this Internet

482
00:37:45.480 --> 00:37:51.239
governance. This is from the World
Economic Form. What happens when somebody underscored

483
00:37:51.280 --> 00:37:54.599
that the Internet shuts down? In
other words, not a question of if,

484
00:37:54.679 --> 00:37:59.400
but it's when it happens. And
as they point out in their article,

485
00:38:00.440 --> 00:38:02.119
it is when we're talking about a
shutdown. They said, we're talking

486
00:38:02.119 --> 00:38:06.079
about the government doing it to its
own people, and they're doing this everywhere.

487
00:38:06.079 --> 00:38:09.159
But of course that's authoritarianism. But
you know who cares, right when

488
00:38:09.159 --> 00:38:13.119
you've got this the kill switch,
Yeah, that's right, the kill switch.

489
00:38:13.440 --> 00:38:17.079
Yeah. But you see right there, you go back to the WA

490
00:38:17.360 --> 00:38:24.519
there they are right red flashing letters
predicting, not predicting, but actually telling

491
00:38:24.559 --> 00:38:29.239
you it's going to happen. That's
right, that's right, and saying it's

492
00:38:29.280 --> 00:38:31.679
going to happen before twenty twenty five
or sometime you know, in the next

493
00:38:31.920 --> 00:38:36.599
years. So sometime in twenty twenty
exact time, twenty twenty five, and

494
00:38:36.639 --> 00:38:38.079
so everybody's trying to make a guess
as to when it's going to happen.

495
00:38:38.679 --> 00:38:43.119
Personally, I think that it'll be, you know, a situation like we

496
00:38:43.199 --> 00:38:46.039
saw with nine to eleven where they'll
pull this off after the next election.

497
00:38:46.480 --> 00:38:50.199
And I think a large part of
that is going to be to try to

498
00:38:50.480 --> 00:38:53.440
this this next president who comes in
after the twenty twenty four election. He's

499
00:38:53.480 --> 00:38:59.000
going to take office in twenty twenty
five and I have four years, and

500
00:38:59.000 --> 00:39:02.360
it's going to take us right through
all this twenty thirty great reset stuff that

501
00:39:02.360 --> 00:39:05.800
they want where they want their new
society, and they're by twenty thirty,

502
00:39:05.880 --> 00:39:07.360
so I think they will pull something
like this off. They will use it

503
00:39:07.880 --> 00:39:13.960
to reset the board, to reset
society. And I think a lot regardless

504
00:39:13.960 --> 00:39:16.320
of who happens, who happens to
win this thing, they're going to be

505
00:39:17.360 --> 00:39:21.880
the tool of these people to change
society a lot you saw back in twenty

506
00:39:21.880 --> 00:39:28.599
twenty. You see that the means
theell accomplishes through will be a new and

507
00:39:28.679 --> 00:39:34.360
improved Patriot Act taking even more rights. Yes, I've got the yard people

508
00:39:34.400 --> 00:39:37.880
out there, and he seems to
want to stay unto my office, Linda

509
00:39:37.920 --> 00:39:42.960
with them. That's okay, it's
not too loud, it's okay, that's

510
00:39:42.960 --> 00:39:45.400
fine, Okay, Yeah, it'll
be interesting to see what happens. Now,

511
00:39:45.519 --> 00:39:51.000
let me ask you about the f
thirty five thing that happened because we've

512
00:39:51.079 --> 00:39:55.440
just had a story that went public
in the South China Morning Post, and

513
00:39:55.519 --> 00:40:04.519
it was a Taiwanese lieutenant current all
who has been arrested and charged and the

514
00:40:04.639 --> 00:40:09.719
charging papers. The allegations from the
prosecutors about this guy was that he was

515
00:40:09.760 --> 00:40:17.039
talking to the Chinese about stealing a
Chinook helicopter American helicopter, and he was

516
00:40:17.079 --> 00:40:21.639
going to fly it to a rendezvous
part place and turn it over to the

517
00:40:21.719 --> 00:40:23.599
Chinese, put it on their aircraft
carry They were going to then give him

518
00:40:24.000 --> 00:40:30.760
a new life in Thailand with his
and some money with his girlfriend. And

519
00:40:31.039 --> 00:40:35.400
so they found out about this and
they arrested him. But you know,

520
00:40:35.400 --> 00:40:37.880
when we look at the F thirty
five, you and I were joking about

521
00:40:37.880 --> 00:40:40.400
that. You know, the F
thirty five, they've hacked the plants,

522
00:40:40.480 --> 00:40:45.559
they've reproduced the plane, maybe not
everything in it, but you know,

523
00:40:45.599 --> 00:40:47.119
maybe they did everything in it.
We don't know. We can see the

524
00:40:47.119 --> 00:40:52.320
outside. They reproduced it, they
hacked the plants, and so it is

525
00:40:52.440 --> 00:40:58.480
certainly conceivable that they had the capability
to hack into the F thirty five and

526
00:40:58.880 --> 00:41:05.360
even again yeah, and once again
using the colonial pipeline it was an insider

527
00:41:05.440 --> 00:41:10.000
that was going along with the program. M hm. So, but do

528
00:41:10.039 --> 00:41:16.119
you remember a couple of years ago
where the Chinese was actually literally hacking destroyers

529
00:41:16.159 --> 00:41:21.880
American destroyers in the South China Sea
and we were going back and forth on

530
00:41:21.920 --> 00:41:23.679
that. I showed you how they
did it. Yeah, yeah, that's

531
00:41:23.760 --> 00:41:29.039
right. Well, you know,
I'm more worried about a nuclear arms ship

532
00:41:29.519 --> 00:41:34.000
being a compromise on the F thirty
five. Yeah, that's right, But

533
00:41:34.320 --> 00:41:38.480
this is all history and once again
he raised red flag. Hey, they're

534
00:41:38.480 --> 00:41:43.000
going to take over your ship.
The people of the personnel ownership, they're

535
00:41:43.039 --> 00:41:46.199
just going to be bystanders. M
h And I want to take it series

536
00:41:46.239 --> 00:41:51.920
and hopefully they've been hopefully, I
mean, for all I know, maybe

537
00:41:51.920 --> 00:41:55.159
corrected these Okay, I'm fishing gonna
throw a brick at the dude with them.

538
00:41:57.400 --> 00:41:59.800
That's one of the reasons why you
were laughing about it with the F

539
00:42:00.199 --> 00:42:02.239
five. You said that, can
you imagine the surprise of the pilot He's

540
00:42:02.239 --> 00:42:07.280
going on all of a sudden.
It's actually what happened now that they disclosed.

541
00:42:07.360 --> 00:42:10.320
He's flying alone man, his own
business thing. He knows he's being

542
00:42:10.360 --> 00:42:15.519
ejected down the plane and the only
question is a lot of people said,

543
00:42:15.599 --> 00:42:17.679
so, then what happened to the
plane? And they came up with a

544
00:42:17.679 --> 00:42:22.199
cover story that was never made any
sense that you know, nobody saw this

545
00:42:22.360 --> 00:42:24.519
plane. You got one guy that
they talked to. It's like, yeah,

546
00:42:24.559 --> 00:42:27.719
I heard, but do you see
anything? No, I didn't see

547
00:42:27.719 --> 00:42:31.360
anything, you know, And so
supposedly this this plane went down right away,

548
00:42:31.400 --> 00:42:35.239
but that wasn't the original story.
So a lot of people said,

549
00:42:35.239 --> 00:42:39.320
so they hacked this thing and they
fly it to rendezvous where they can you

550
00:42:39.360 --> 00:42:43.760
know, grab this thing or what
is? What is what really happened with

551
00:42:43.800 --> 00:42:45.480
it? But I don't know if
you heard anything else about that F thirty

552
00:42:45.480 --> 00:42:52.000
five. Oddly enough, it's like
the Colonial pipeline, but it just goes

553
00:42:52.079 --> 00:42:55.079
dark. You know, give everybody
thirty seconds there, it's interest span time,

554
00:42:55.880 --> 00:43:00.920
and don't forget about it. Yeah, oh yeah, you know,

555
00:43:00.960 --> 00:43:05.800
anybody brings up, call them a
conspiracy theorist. You know, hey,

556
00:43:05.920 --> 00:43:07.199
you know we already told you what
happened there from there you didn't, Yeah,

557
00:43:07.440 --> 00:43:12.360
yeah, we did, conspiracy theorist. Okay, you know, yeah,

558
00:43:12.639 --> 00:43:15.880
yeah, that's the way the program
works now, absolutely. Yeah,

559
00:43:15.880 --> 00:43:21.480
And going back to this article about
black energy, three, the trojan that

560
00:43:21.559 --> 00:43:24.599
you talked about back in twenty sixteen. Again, this is a Ukraine an

561
00:43:24.719 --> 00:43:31.679
electric grid attack. And at the
time you said a lot of this stuff

562
00:43:31.719 --> 00:43:36.679
is smoking mirrors. You said,
pay attention to this one thing. What

563
00:43:36.840 --> 00:43:39.679
was it that they should pay attention
to? You know, David has been

564
00:43:39.719 --> 00:43:43.880
so long ago, I don't remember. Remind me you got black energy,

565
00:43:43.880 --> 00:43:47.559
three plug ins, a file system, operation system information, parasitic infector.

566
00:43:47.840 --> 00:43:52.320
Fact that it was remote You believe
that it was remote execution? Yes,

567
00:43:52.400 --> 00:43:59.679
yes, yes, yes, okay, it was a rap remote access basically

568
00:43:59.679 --> 00:44:06.480
remote access control. And I mean
if you can install the malware, that's

569
00:44:06.519 --> 00:44:13.159
a rat. I mean you picked
the facility, let's say three Mile Island

570
00:44:13.320 --> 00:44:19.719
just because it's infamous. I could
sit here on my iPhone and have three

571
00:44:19.760 --> 00:44:22.519
Mile Island doing all kinds of meat
stuff. There's no different than what would

572
00:44:22.519 --> 00:44:29.400
happened in Iran with their nuclear reactors. Well, they're program overspeed systems of

573
00:44:29.480 --> 00:44:36.159
where it collapses and puts them out
of business for years. It was basically

574
00:44:36.800 --> 00:44:39.440
that type of thing. You don't
have to go in there and create explosions

575
00:44:39.480 --> 00:44:45.599
and chaos. You can destroy equipment
that take two years to rebuild. Yes,

576
00:44:45.840 --> 00:44:51.199
yes, you know how you know, when I was talking to Jack

577
00:44:51.239 --> 00:44:52.840
Lawson last week, he said,
yeah, okay, we got the cybersecurity

578
00:44:52.840 --> 00:44:55.519
stuff. But he goes, look, you know you can you already had

579
00:44:55.519 --> 00:44:59.480
a situations on it. Theoretical,
you can have a situation where some people

580
00:44:59.519 --> 00:45:04.079
can come in with a gun and
shoot up a transformer, and it takes

581
00:45:04.079 --> 00:45:06.719
a long time to get those transformers
replaced. And when you look at the

582
00:45:06.719 --> 00:45:09.440
fact that our borders are wide open, it's no wonder. You know,

583
00:45:09.480 --> 00:45:16.719
that's just a that's a physical example
of how cavalier and disinterested our own government

584
00:45:16.960 --> 00:45:22.280
is about protecting this country. It's
infrastructure and other things. Because any state

585
00:45:22.400 --> 00:45:27.880
and enemy of ours we're talking about
the Iranians or the Chinese or whatever,

586
00:45:27.920 --> 00:45:30.239
they can all just walk through the
border and they could just start positioning themselves

587
00:45:30.239 --> 00:45:36.400
in place and taking out our entire
electric grid with physical damage that isn't going

588
00:45:36.440 --> 00:45:39.440
to be booted back up again.
They could do that very Do you find

589
00:45:39.480 --> 00:45:45.599
it strange they all qualify as a
diversity higher Yeah, exactly, a diversity

590
00:45:45.639 --> 00:45:51.880
spies we got, yeah, you
know, And yet we goes back to

591
00:45:51.920 --> 00:45:54.800
what we were talking about with the
Patriot Act, in the TSA. You

592
00:45:54.920 --> 00:45:59.360
and I cannot get through the airport. We're American citizens, we have really

593
00:46:00.239 --> 00:46:02.960
I don't have any reason to harm
America. But it was like the other

594
00:46:04.039 --> 00:46:08.679
nine percent of the Americans. We
don't really want to bull up or we

595
00:46:08.840 --> 00:46:15.440
live. But do you look at
us. We're being molested, scan poke,

596
00:46:15.760 --> 00:46:21.079
proded, everything else. Just get
on a stupid airplane and you've got

597
00:46:21.119 --> 00:46:25.480
millions of who knows who coming across
the border spreading mountain. Yeah, hey,

598
00:46:25.559 --> 00:46:29.679
welcome to America. Oh yeah,
yeah, they you know, they

599
00:46:29.719 --> 00:46:34.199
have to say about security. They
locked the border down with the Trump orders,

600
00:46:34.199 --> 00:46:36.559
nobody's coming into this country, blah
blah blah. But then when they

601
00:46:36.599 --> 00:46:38.360
have the illegal aliens, they were
flying them around, you know, like

602
00:46:38.400 --> 00:46:43.159
typhoid Mary. If they really believed
this narrative, they don't have to wear

603
00:46:43.239 --> 00:46:45.519
any mask and we're going to transport
them from point A to point B and

604
00:46:46.400 --> 00:46:51.599
no issues at all about that.
We just had a picture. I saw

605
00:46:51.760 --> 00:46:54.119
a report. I didn't get into
details of it, but they got a

606
00:46:54.119 --> 00:47:00.320
picture of a guy who stenciled on
a Nazi swastika. I think it was

607
00:47:00.360 --> 00:47:02.960
a Jewish building or Something's why he
did it. And uh and yet they

608
00:47:02.960 --> 00:47:06.880
got him on surveillance footage and it
was a Chinese guy, and it was

609
00:47:06.920 --> 00:47:09.599
an illegal alien Chinese guy. Now, what he's trying to do is he's

610
00:47:09.639 --> 00:47:14.840
trying to create social friction by doing
that, putting a swastika on a Jewish

611
00:47:14.920 --> 00:47:19.880
facility. But he's Chinese coming in
to do this, just trying to mix

612
00:47:19.920 --> 00:47:22.320
it up, you know, just
trying to get people fighting with each other.

613
00:47:22.480 --> 00:47:27.280
Yeah, well that's one of the
programs. But I think it was

614
00:47:27.320 --> 00:47:31.000
you and Joe Biggs that went down
to the border that didn't yell or was

615
00:47:31.000 --> 00:47:35.639
it just Joe Biggs himself put down
that alta camp right across the board.

616
00:47:35.880 --> 00:47:37.280
No, that's Joe Big So I
wasn't with him. Yeah, okay,

617
00:47:37.960 --> 00:47:43.360
okay, Well I knew you and
Joe ran some exploits and y'all really yeah,

618
00:47:43.480 --> 00:47:47.199
yeah, he really uncovered some startling
stuff. We got into the asymmetric

619
00:47:47.239 --> 00:47:52.159
warfare facility at the place that's now
been renamed something else, but it was

620
00:47:52.199 --> 00:47:54.559
at the time it was ap Hill. And yeah, but Joe went to

621
00:47:54.559 --> 00:48:00.480
the border on his own and found
that camp there. Well, sure,

622
00:48:00.480 --> 00:48:02.360
if they have a camp sitting there
on the border, they uh, they're

623
00:48:02.360 --> 00:48:07.400
probably already here. I mean,
I'm just got making crazy guesses. But

624
00:48:07.440 --> 00:48:10.079
why would Alka have a camp on
the border. Yeah, that's right,

625
00:48:12.119 --> 00:48:15.559
And what are they And they probably
got lots of pallets, one hundred dollars

626
00:48:15.599 --> 00:48:22.199
bills and weapons that were left behind
in af guess. Yeah, yeah,

627
00:48:22.719 --> 00:48:27.119
they have all kinds of cool stuff
that we aren't doing that forbids us from

628
00:48:27.119 --> 00:48:34.360
having Yeah. Uh you know,
look at the at their names, those

629
00:48:34.400 --> 00:48:37.199
guys out out in Oregon. Uh
that that they were doing those exposies.

630
00:48:37.920 --> 00:48:40.880
Look how they were treating what were
they doing. They were running catal on

631
00:48:42.000 --> 00:48:46.039
on land. Yeah. Yeah,
you know you've got government out there shooting

632
00:48:46.079 --> 00:48:52.400
them. Yeah, Yet we had
Alkeda on the border. We have people

633
00:48:52.559 --> 00:48:54.280
roaming around this country. We don't
know who they are. They don't know

634
00:48:54.320 --> 00:48:59.800
who they are. We have the
cartels again, yet we have the PA

635
00:48:59.840 --> 00:49:02.159
that keep ashake. Yeah, as
you're talking about that, it is a

636
00:49:02.280 --> 00:49:07.360
you know, it is painfully obvious
to everybody that our government does not care

637
00:49:07.360 --> 00:49:14.400
about protecting Americans. It is trying
to protect itself from Americans, It's trying

638
00:49:14.480 --> 00:49:17.679
to surveil Americans, and is trying
to protect power abroad, and it cares

639
00:49:17.679 --> 00:49:22.039
about the borders of other countries,
but not about our own countries. And

640
00:49:22.079 --> 00:49:24.519
I think a good example of this
is this section seven oh two reauthorization.

641
00:49:25.000 --> 00:49:30.559
There's a lot of smoke and mirrors
that are happening with us whether or not

642
00:49:30.599 --> 00:49:34.920
this is in you know, whether
it's going to be in the NDAA or

643
00:49:34.920 --> 00:49:38.119
whether they're going to vote on it
today. Thomas Massey yesterday said I'm a

644
00:49:38.159 --> 00:49:43.400
hell no on reauthorization of the fives, a seven oh two program that allows

645
00:49:43.400 --> 00:49:46.559
warrantless surveillance of Americans. But it
looks like the Senate will attach it to

646
00:49:46.639 --> 00:49:52.920
the National Defense Authorization Act tomorrow meeting
today, and well the House will probably

647
00:49:52.000 --> 00:49:55.880
vote on it on Thursday. Shame, he says. And other people are

648
00:49:55.920 --> 00:50:01.880
saying that this is like the Patriot
Act on steroids because one of the things

649
00:50:01.880 --> 00:50:05.960
that it's doing, and I wanted
to ask you this go treat. One

650
00:50:05.960 --> 00:50:10.639
of the things that is different about
this one is that, you know,

651
00:50:10.760 --> 00:50:16.800
prior to this, the government has
been able to compel anybody that provides communications,

652
00:50:16.800 --> 00:50:22.159
like phone companies and things like this. They can compel them to give

653
00:50:22.400 --> 00:50:29.400
information. But now this would give
them the authority to compel anybody anywhere that

654
00:50:29.519 --> 00:50:32.719
is around any computer system whatsoever.
I mean, it could just be a

655
00:50:32.760 --> 00:50:37.079
person doing maintenance. It could be
a hotel or a restaurant or a coffee

656
00:50:37.079 --> 00:50:42.800
shop where you sign on to their
Wi Fi, and it could compel them

657
00:50:42.920 --> 00:50:47.360
to turn over their records or to
spy on you and other things like that.

658
00:50:47.440 --> 00:50:50.840
I mean, they're really extending this. I mean, what does it

659
00:50:50.880 --> 00:50:59.679
tell us about our own government when
they are this paranoid and conspiratorial. You're

660
00:50:59.719 --> 00:51:04.480
tough about that. And years ago
I approach about the Long Lines building.

661
00:51:04.559 --> 00:51:10.320
Here's your listener's a project, go
search on a Long Lines building. The

662
00:51:10.400 --> 00:51:16.960
original one was in New York and
it became public and they shut it down.

663
00:51:19.800 --> 00:51:25.679
Now you've got long Lines buildings in
all the major cities. Okay.

664
00:51:27.679 --> 00:51:32.519
The program they used the exploits called
Titan Fall T A I T A N

665
00:51:34.000 --> 00:51:37.119
F A L L. They've been
doing this for years. It was illegal.

666
00:51:37.199 --> 00:51:43.280
Now they're trying to make it legal. Secondly, AT and T was

667
00:51:43.360 --> 00:51:49.440
hacked a couple of years ago.
You had quote hackers take all this information,

668
00:51:49.760 --> 00:51:53.320
your everything you have if you have
an atn T account, they took

669
00:51:53.360 --> 00:52:00.679
it credit everything you know. How
atn T got out of any kind of

670
00:52:00.719 --> 00:52:05.960
penalties or anything for that. They
said, look at your user agreement.

671
00:52:06.039 --> 00:52:09.320
You agreed to this. Yeah,
so that's how they get to get away

672
00:52:09.320 --> 00:52:15.239
with this. Then there's never no
penalties because when you signed a user agreement,

673
00:52:15.480 --> 00:52:20.960
you're basically giving them your permission to
hack you. Yes, And they've

674
00:52:21.039 --> 00:52:24.519
laid this foundation quite carefully and done
it iteratively over a period of time.

675
00:52:24.519 --> 00:52:27.639
If we go back and we look
at at and T in the middle of

676
00:52:27.679 --> 00:52:30.079
the twentieth century, where they were
the phone company had a monopoly essentially,

677
00:52:30.559 --> 00:52:37.360
and they were collect you know,
pen numbers on people, and it was

678
00:52:37.400 --> 00:52:40.079
actually taken to the Supreme Court.
Supreme Court said, well, if you

679
00:52:40.239 --> 00:52:45.559
turn if you're using them for your
phone service, that means all the information

680
00:52:45.679 --> 00:52:50.599
that they have on you belongs to
them, not to you. And so

681
00:52:50.679 --> 00:52:52.559
they can come to them and ask
them, I'd like to have all the

682
00:52:52.599 --> 00:52:57.639
information about David Knight. They don't
have to You're not saying, well,

683
00:52:57.840 --> 00:53:00.800
I'm compelling you to do this.
Here's my search warrant. You just go

684
00:53:00.840 --> 00:53:04.639
to them and say I'd like to
have all that information and they can voluntarily

685
00:53:04.639 --> 00:53:06.480
turn it over. As a matter
of fact, on January the sixth,

686
00:53:06.519 --> 00:53:10.000
we saw the Bank of America voluntarily
quote unquote voluntarily, and I guess maybe

687
00:53:10.000 --> 00:53:15.599
they did try to curry favor,
but they voluntarily gave information to the FBI

688
00:53:15.639 --> 00:53:21.400
about anybody who bought anything anywhere around
you know, Washington, d C on

689
00:53:21.480 --> 00:53:24.679
those dates, as well as anybody
who bought guns anywhere, and let them

690
00:53:24.719 --> 00:53:30.119
coordinate all that stuff, and also
about people who are flying. So you

691
00:53:30.199 --> 00:53:34.039
got all these different corporate spies out
there who are putting the stuff in.

692
00:53:34.360 --> 00:53:38.280
And that was the key thing about
CISPA and ACTA and SOPA and PIPPA and

693
00:53:38.400 --> 00:53:45.800
CISPA, CISPA Cybersecurity Infrastructure Act.
They pulled out the P. The P

694
00:53:46.119 --> 00:53:50.719
was there to protect the companies who
were going to turn the data over to

695
00:53:50.760 --> 00:53:54.480
them. It was to protect them
from lawsuits from customers because if they didn't

696
00:53:54.559 --> 00:53:58.559
sue them, because you'd give them
information to turn it over. Yeah,

697
00:53:58.639 --> 00:54:02.079
oh yeah, it's in your agreement. Yeah yeah. Well I think part

698
00:54:02.079 --> 00:54:06.079
of it was, you know that
you had some companies who did not want

699
00:54:06.119 --> 00:54:08.519
to turn it over, and so
you know they could say, well,

700
00:54:08.559 --> 00:54:12.599
I don't want to do this,
and I might get sued because I don't

701
00:54:12.599 --> 00:54:15.599
have it in my user agreement and
So the government comes through with this new

702
00:54:15.679 --> 00:54:19.119
legislation and says, no, I'm
not going to let them sue you,

703
00:54:19.199 --> 00:54:22.880
so now turn it over to me. You don't have to remove their excuse

704
00:54:22.960 --> 00:54:25.519
to remove anything. Where they would
push back on this with reluctance, they

705
00:54:25.519 --> 00:54:30.760
said, now we've indemnified you against
that, so now give us their information.

706
00:54:30.400 --> 00:54:32.280
And now they're taking it to the
next step. You know, it's

707
00:54:32.320 --> 00:54:37.239
not just going to be your phone
company or internet service provider. It's going

708
00:54:37.280 --> 00:54:40.039
to be any business anywhere, a
restaurant, a coffee shop, anybody,

709
00:54:40.119 --> 00:54:44.119
a motel, all of them are
going to be turning this stuff over.

710
00:54:44.360 --> 00:54:47.000
So the facts, Yeah, but
that applies to us, the United States

711
00:54:47.079 --> 00:54:52.039
citizens, not the illegals. That's
right, That's right. Yeah. So

712
00:54:53.480 --> 00:55:01.320
you know you have to sit back
in question what the motives are. You

713
00:55:02.199 --> 00:55:07.280
know. Uh, that's like with
this tech, technological security and these technological

714
00:55:07.320 --> 00:55:13.320
advances, Uh, there's none being
made. You know, you go back

715
00:55:13.320 --> 00:55:16.400
to Ukraine, you're you're you know, we're reading what they're predicting right now

716
00:55:16.400 --> 00:55:23.599
in Ukraine. Ukraine seems to have
become, uh the Petrie Dish of the

717
00:55:23.639 --> 00:55:28.039
world. I mean, you know, okay, we got a new killing

718
00:55:28.079 --> 00:55:30.679
system. Let's give it to their
military. If they get blown up,

719
00:55:30.719 --> 00:55:34.840
who cares? Yeah, Oh look, let's pack their infrastructure. Oh look,

720
00:55:35.360 --> 00:55:42.159
we can want you know, waundering
money on an industrial scale there.

721
00:55:42.559 --> 00:55:45.840
And that's what I think. That's
what's been at the base of a lot

722
00:55:45.880 --> 00:55:49.440
of these war since Vietnam. As
I said before, you know, Vietnam

723
00:55:49.519 --> 00:55:52.400
is really about them testing out weapon
systems. We don't care who gets killed.

724
00:55:52.840 --> 00:55:54.360
Let's just stay there. We don't
refine and test our systems. It

725
00:55:54.360 --> 00:55:58.119
will be a test bad. Oh
okay, the Vietnam wars over, let's

726
00:55:58.119 --> 00:56:00.920
have another one somewhere else. They
just keep these wars going. And as

727
00:56:00.920 --> 00:56:04.519
you said, it's a petri dish
for all of this stuff. We can

728
00:56:04.559 --> 00:56:07.519
test cyber warfare, we can test
kinetic warfare. We got all these different

729
00:56:07.559 --> 00:56:13.199
weapons that we can test. Let's
just keep the war going exactly. And

730
00:56:14.599 --> 00:56:17.880
you know, going back to what
I was telling you at the start,

731
00:56:17.920 --> 00:56:24.480
where if you actually were able to
use quantum magnetics and quantum levitation and all

732
00:56:24.519 --> 00:56:30.760
this quantum technology, we're right on
the cusp of deploying you could stand all

733
00:56:30.880 --> 00:56:35.719
that. Can you imagine the bar
that you have a net over a whole

734
00:56:35.719 --> 00:56:38.880
country and you can't have a rule
because bullets are basically frozen in air.

735
00:56:40.880 --> 00:56:44.920
Yeah, that is amazing. We're
aim into some real sci fi stuff.

736
00:56:44.960 --> 00:56:49.320
And of course, you know they're
starting to deploy laser beam or you should

737
00:56:49.360 --> 00:56:52.679
say higher G directed beam technology or
whatever you want to call it. You

738
00:56:52.719 --> 00:56:58.119
know, antiballistic stuff as well.
But you know, just real quickly back

739
00:56:58.159 --> 00:57:00.360
to the seven o two. Think
the reasons that you look at this.

740
00:57:00.400 --> 00:57:02.599
A lot of people poop who would
say, Yah, it's nothing new and

741
00:57:02.599 --> 00:57:07.559
it's nothing dangerous and there's nothing to
see here, move on. But one

742
00:57:07.599 --> 00:57:09.599
of the reasons that a lot of
people are concerned about this is because you

743
00:57:09.800 --> 00:57:17.559
had a PHISA court friend of the
court posted a blog to warn people about

744
00:57:17.599 --> 00:57:22.760
this, and as one person said, I can't overstate how unusual it is

745
00:57:23.360 --> 00:57:29.000
for a PHISA court am a key
to take to the airwaves in this manner.

746
00:57:29.599 --> 00:57:31.880
And so they're concerned about this and
how it's going to be used internally,

747
00:57:31.920 --> 00:57:35.760
and we'd be foolish to ignore it. But this is our own government

748
00:57:36.519 --> 00:57:38.760
to hack our identities, to follow
us, to spy on us with everything,

749
00:57:38.800 --> 00:57:44.039
and of course that this seems to
be every day I see this innumerable

750
00:57:44.039 --> 00:57:47.960
ways that they want to you know, follow us, track us, you

751
00:57:49.000 --> 00:57:52.199
know, index stamp, index brief
and deep brief us. As the prisoner

752
00:57:52.280 --> 00:57:59.480
said, and say something. It's
just a sensational insatiable appetite to put us

753
00:57:59.480 --> 00:58:04.559
in an open air prison. Don't
forget brain chips and chips not all that

754
00:58:04.599 --> 00:58:07.119
they want you to have to after
they back shoot. Yeah. Oh yeah,

755
00:58:07.159 --> 00:58:12.159
that's right. Yeah, yeah,
that's the thing about that's the thing

756
00:58:12.159 --> 00:58:15.960
about our friend Musk is like,
so you're telling me that you're you know,

757
00:58:15.000 --> 00:58:20.719
we can trust the world's richest man
who became that rich because he did

758
00:58:20.760 --> 00:58:23.280
everything the governments around the world wanted
him to do. And he's also a

759
00:58:23.440 --> 00:58:28.760
technocrat and a transhumitist. So yeah, what's to worry about it? Who

760
00:58:28.800 --> 00:58:32.239
wants to hack into our minds?
You know, it depends on what ned

761
00:58:32.559 --> 00:58:36.000
Elon wakes up with. You know, is he going to be good today

762
00:58:36.079 --> 00:58:38.360
or is he going to destroy the
world? Yeah, you know, yeah,

763
00:58:38.440 --> 00:58:45.159
it truly and as long as he
keeps up well, depending increased speech,

764
00:58:45.079 --> 00:58:49.440
well let's be good. Yeah.
Oh yeah, I think he's playing

765
00:58:49.719 --> 00:58:53.119
I think he's playing a long game
there. He has to be yeah,

766
00:58:53.320 --> 00:58:58.719
yeah, yeah, I think it's
a game that he's playing that is going

767
00:58:58.760 --> 00:59:00.280
to be for his own good,
because the way these guys operate, there's

768
00:59:00.280 --> 00:59:06.039
not any of these billionaires out there
who are our altruistic saviors. But everybody

769
00:59:06.039 --> 00:59:08.760
wants to believe that it's truly is
amazing. There is no Tony Stark out

770
00:59:08.800 --> 00:59:14.199
there. That's a creature of the
comic books, and it is comical that

771
00:59:14.239 --> 00:59:17.840
people continue to think that and to
place their hope on that. It truly

772
00:59:17.880 --> 00:59:22.760
is amazing to me. But of
course we've got Trump who's cutting up the

773
00:59:22.800 --> 00:59:27.760
suit that he took his mugshot in
into selling it off for thousands of dollars.

774
00:59:27.559 --> 00:59:30.719
That suckers. I mean, it's
amazing what these people will do.

775
00:59:30.880 --> 00:59:35.880
And it's amazing. Again, I
don't fault Trump as much as I do

776
00:59:35.960 --> 00:59:38.880
the people who are sending him the
money and following everything and making him their

777
00:59:38.920 --> 00:59:44.079
little DEMI god, I mean,
it's just amazing to watch this happen.

778
00:59:44.440 --> 00:59:49.599
And it never ceases to amaze me
how these people here we are three years

779
00:59:49.639 --> 00:59:53.679
after all this stuff and people still
haven't caught on and they get furious with

780
00:59:53.760 --> 00:59:58.280
me. It's just unbelievable. You
know, when I started telling about this.

781
00:59:58.360 --> 01:00:02.360
They don't. Yeah know, it's
like a tax paying citizens. You

782
01:00:02.440 --> 01:00:08.039
point out, hey, dudes,
y'all are funding your own demise, and

783
01:00:08.079 --> 01:00:13.119
they're like, shut up, a
conspiracy theorist. Yeah, without the funding,

784
01:00:13.320 --> 01:00:15.320
none of this could happen. That's
right, that's right. Well,

785
01:00:15.360 --> 01:00:17.920
we certainly do have an out of
control government, and we have a government

786
01:00:17.960 --> 01:00:23.280
that's not interested in addressing known vulnerabilities. And as you've seen, it's not

787
01:00:23.320 --> 01:00:27.599
just the government, but it's also
individual corporations. Is you know, they

788
01:00:27.679 --> 01:00:30.039
hire you to tell them what's wrong, and then they don't do anything about

789
01:00:30.039 --> 01:00:35.480
it. And so you know,
we've got the Congress who will hold a

790
01:00:35.519 --> 01:00:37.960
hearing, but they will never do
anything about anything. So that's kind of

791
01:00:37.960 --> 01:00:43.800
where we are right now. We're
kind of paralyzed in this system, that

792
01:00:43.920 --> 01:00:47.280
is, and it's really strange how
everybody's just kind of frozen and watching it

793
01:00:47.320 --> 01:00:52.280
happen. It seems no way to
get anybody to activate to do anything about

794
01:00:52.320 --> 01:00:55.440
it, even in their own interests. You know, when you look at

795
01:00:55.480 --> 01:01:00.760
these people in Congress, they are
when they allow us to be censored,

796
01:01:00.880 --> 01:01:06.039
us to be spied upon. Of
course, there's somebody that is an interesting

797
01:01:06.079 --> 01:01:08.679
person and they're going to get the
same treatment in space and they don't care

798
01:01:08.760 --> 01:01:12.960
about it. Truly is amazing.
Well, it's always great talking to you,

799
01:01:12.960 --> 01:01:15.039
Go Tree, and thank you for
coming on and talking to us about

800
01:01:15.039 --> 01:01:19.360
this. People need to be aware
of this, and you need to be

801
01:01:19.400 --> 01:01:22.800
aware that you can do some things
about this, even if the people in

802
01:01:22.880 --> 01:01:25.719
power are not going to do anything
about it. Always good to talk to

803
01:01:25.760 --> 01:01:30.000
you, GOA Tree. Thank you
appreciate it. Well my first, David,

804
01:01:30.079 --> 01:01:31.559
you take care and I hope your
health gets better. Man. You've

805
01:01:31.559 --> 01:01:36.199
made a really good Christmas album.
Well, thank you. I really appreciate

806
01:01:36.199 --> 01:01:38.280
it. By the way, thanks
for the plug. Find it at the

807
01:01:38.440 --> 01:01:43.920
Davidnightshow dot com and you can get
a download version of that there. So

808
01:01:44.119 --> 01:01:46.920
thank you, Go Tree. I
appreciate that, and thank you to everybody.

809
01:01:46.920 --> 01:01:51.400
Thank you, Thank you all right, have a good day, everybody.

810
01:01:52.719 --> 01:02:00.199
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com. The David Knight Show is a

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critical thinking super spreader. If you've
been exposed to logic by listening to the

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David Knight Show. Please do your
part and try not to spread it.

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Financial support or simply tell the others
about the show causes this dangerous information to

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spread. Father people have to trust
me, I mean trust the science.

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Wear your mask, take your vaccine, don't ask questions using free speech to

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free minds. It's the David Knight
Show.