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Well, hello and good evening.
It is Tuesday, July twenty fifth,

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two thousand and twenty three. Welcome
to the only show about Spartan Dogs

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hosted by Spartan Dogs. This is
Sparta ms you. I'm your host.

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Jason Strayhorn played back in the Pearls
and Saving eras as a center team captain.

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I couldn't do this without my two
dogs and the fight. The boss

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otis Wiley hard hitting safety Paul Hawking, safety that played during the John L.

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Smith and the D'Antonio areas, along
with his counterpart here Ju Choo Choo

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Caul Crept just a single season touchdown
record holder. And look, if this

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at so let's go into this special
episode. We're talking Hall of Fame and

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guys, how you doing. We're
good. I'm excited. I want to

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jump right in. Bring on our
said, let's get it after, let's

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get after it. Then I'm gonna
up. Yeah, we're not gonna wait

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on this. We're gonna bring on
Javan ring of the guests of honor right

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now. Who is the newly you
know, well, we can induct it.

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I guess he's getting there. Hall
of Fame, ms U Sports Hall

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of Fame. Remember Javan joins the
show. There he goes. Here's a

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graphic played back in five eight one
hell of a running back in a better

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person. Welcome to the show.
Appreciate y'all man, thank welcome back.

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Welcome back, though, we'll welcome
back to the back brother. Yeah,

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thank y'all man, Thank y'all again. Bro, Hey, Ray and that

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freshman, that freshman profile thing with
the John L Police. You know how,

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I'll tell you though, that's why
a lot of people learn the tie

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ties. It's true, bro,
but it's well. I did ask them,

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like, yo, what picture are
y'all on you? And they said,

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hey, we'll find one. It'll
probably be one that we already asked,

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so I just kind of had to
take that on the chat. But

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that's funny that you brought that up, because I definitely asked that. Yeah,

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everybody, everybody just came back from
weight room, coach, Let's talk

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about, like, you know,
the moment that you got the call,

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Like, how how did that go
when you found out that you were going

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to be immortalized in the Minisian State
Hall of Fame. Okay, So first

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things first out, I can't express
how surprised I was because now Alan,

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so Alan called me, and I've
talked to Alan before. So when I

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saw his number of problem on my
phone and it was kind of just like

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whatever, it was up and it
was going on, I answered the phone

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just cas or whatever, and he
gave me the news and shocked. Just

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just to say I was shocked as
the understatement, because I truly thought,

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now he'll tell you he thinks he
told me like I think you're just trying

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to be humble, but that wasn't
the case. Like I just I genuinely

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did not feel like one I did
enough individually to get inducted. What I

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did, I was never so this
this was my thing. I was never

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a part of like a big ten
championship team. I was never part of

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like a big old game winning team
like so that's where my mind went,

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like the winning part, Like I
was never truly a part of something huge

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like that. So that was one
number two I thought about if I did

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possibly have it, because I didn't. I did know I was number two

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all time, rushing behind the reuss
of White, and then I passed him

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and I was number I'm number one
in Michigan state history and all I did

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have that, But in my mind, like I said, I never was

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a part of what I just described. But then also I always thought like

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if I did have any chance of
getting in, it wouldn't be till like

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freaking fifty years down. I'm like, we're old. I can, I

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can bury you can barely because honestly, just it's being honest, Like I

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just being honest. That's usually how
that go, all right, Like usually

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guys are like super old when they
get in. And that's just kind of

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what I thought, Like I felt
like eventually fifty years later, they probably

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like, yo, we need to
fill a spot. So hey, hey

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Ringer, Hey he's a good one
to maybe put him and I was all

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right to get in. Now I
was completely shot my back. I'm kind

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of rambler. I was super shock, was very surprised, and honestly,

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I kind of had a sucker moment. I wasn't. I was in the

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barber shop. I was getting I
was getting cut by Michael Jordan. And

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so Michael Jordan was a former player
from Michigan State. I was getting cut

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up by him, and I got
the call and like, I'm not an

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emotional guy, like I don't do
that. I don't I don't do I

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don't do emotions. It wasn't until
I have my art where like that actually

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started to come out of me a
little bit more to tell us if anybody

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guys who hear these girls and do
that to you, you ever feel all

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have them, Yes we are.
I'm starting to get like choked up and

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emotional. Like hold up. I
had to Mike could tell you, like

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because old as I know you go
there too, you and Mike had to

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say I had to walk out.
I had to walk out the shop like,

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y't be like getting like crying and
shit like that. I'm good people

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like hold up, bro like,
But it was crazy because I was very

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surprised. I was very shot.
I was humbled by it, and it

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was a man. It was.
It was huge for me. Did you

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even hear like his words or like
as soon as you said, hey,

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you're being inducted and there was like
like you black out? Hey, so

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oh so listen. So we had
the conversation afterwards. When I'm driving,

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I barely couldn't remember anything that we
talked about because we we had a we

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had a conversation, like even though
I was emotional, we had a conversation.

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But I told myself, I was
like, Yo, I gotta call

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him back because like half of that
I don't remember remember what we want to

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do. But I'm saying that because
I'm not an emotional guy. I'm a

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tough guy. I'm a warrior guy. Like this is my mindset. It

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wasn't until I had my daughter where
I don't know, things started to change

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for me. So I feel like
that's my guy gave me a girl.

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Um and it was like yeah,
like like oh, I really didn't remember.

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I don't remember eighty percent of the
conversation me and Alan has So I

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did tell yo, I gotta call
him back and kind of ask a man

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what all did we like say during
this conversation, But it was all because

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yeah, I was. My emotions
were. It was different type of emotions

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that I never that I never felt
before. And about my surprise just getting

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that getting that news. Oh yeah, that's kind of how that was.

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Like it was a surprise. Sounded
like you we got that phone call from

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Alan Haller the AB for those who
are listening from Michigan State. You're getting

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the haircut. You're surprised by this
call, and you know, we want

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to talk about a little bit like
the running back situation that that's going on,

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and you know, I can't help
but think that we got to bring

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on the guy who taught you how
to run the ball, especially when you're

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at Michigan State. These two guys
didn't even know how to run. So

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I got one foot in front of
the other. Yall listen, y'all.

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I tell to this day I was
I was last at Toledo before I came

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here, but was Michigan State.
Then went to Toledo and being bad.

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I tell everybody that my favorite coach
was dead. You know, that was

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my guy, like and it was
all because it was just his personality.

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I clicked with it. He was
very he was very always brought you coffee.

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That's why coffee they to this day, I still drink coffee because of

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Coachino. It's saved me during him. Yeah, but this was my guy,

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y'all. Y'all we started those We
started those early morning meetings with coach

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D'Antonio, and Javan would come in
like just like barely even like I'm like,

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dude, you're gonna have to like
figure this out. So I brought

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him a coffee one day. I
made it super strong, a bunch of

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sugar, a bunch of dreamer.
Tastes like a milkshake probably more. He

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was around the meeting room at the
end of the meeting and I was like,

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dang, we're gonna start doing this
every day. So I had to

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bring shoot you food every day,
and I had to bring caffeine every day.

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That's true story. Yeah, right, Well, we will go to

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the meetings and whatever the coaches,
you know, have like a lunch and

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like I know, Tuesdays will be
be dubs day, so Coachinos will have

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a big plate of wings for me
day ritos or something. And I used

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to have to sneak it out because
we weren't supposed to take it to you

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guys back in the dread speech,
You're like super remose rules, right,

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So I'd be like coach d'antonia would
be like, what are you doing,

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Dan, like getting a lot of
wings. I'm like, yeah, I'm

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hungry then, and I bringing down
to Joy because he wouldn't practice hard if

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he wasn't full, wouldn't practice heard
if he didn't have caffeine. So let

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me tell you something. These two
guys were like two of my favorite guys

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ever coached. But I've been coaching
quarterbacks almost my whole career, and then

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I started coaching these guys and it
just changed everything for it. I had

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so much fun coaching these two guys. Awesome, Awesome, Hey, we're

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learning that you had a different student
athlete experience than most of the other guys.

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Anybody. These two guys, we
can't talk about a lot of stuff

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we used to talk about. But
these two guys were entertaining for the whole

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room. But so dupe. It
wasn't always about football, like we had

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fun, like we had that was
Michigan State, Like that's that's that was

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my mind with Michigan State, like
it wasn't always just about wall like having

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coached Enos as a coach, having
Ju was my as, my as my

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partner, even my boy a J, my roommate AJ, like just that

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whole collective unit. It was never
just strictly about football. That's why I

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love coach Enos because he was he
was the head of the room and how

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he ran his office like it was. I loved it. I loved the

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meetings like I love that. Like, man, you j you what was

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this? What was it the Purdue
game when I told you guys, I

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was gonna bett you guys, put
in coach. Remember, yeah, I

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was so kissing you guys. You
guys game late for the Morty meeting.

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It was like one of those eleven
am kickoff games or something. Right we

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were We came in and it started
off like just like it was a blunder

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of a day because Jamana and I
were roommates on the road and I don't

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know what was that. Let's get
that ball game game? No, no,

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this is my senior year. Yeah, we went, we go to

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a ball game. Yeah, He's
like, I'm gonna bet you guys.

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You guys thinking Jan I looked at
each other like who is gonna play Yeah,

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and they were running too. That's
what pissed me off. Oh gonna

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play good today. You guys always
did though, you know, j is

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not saying like, I don't know
if I did enough to get into the

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whole when when you left Ju he
was getting like sixty carries a game,

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this guy. Yeah, yeah,
I mean. And then and then the

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other thing about Javans. You guys
all know this about him, but uh,

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your senior year, Ju, he
was so unselfish because we've used you

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for so much of that goal line
short yardage stuff, you know what I'm

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saying. And and I'd be like, hey, Javon one day, I

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was like, you getting pissed because
we take you out in the goal line,

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and Javan's like, hell im now, he said, Ju's gotta eat

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too. Mann. Yeah, I
mean it was. It was so unselfish

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the way he played. And both
of you guys were like that. But

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um, you guys were so much
fun to coach man. Those were those

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were good times. Those are some
kind of years coaching. Yeah, And

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you know, like even to that
point that I've talked about this story,

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I know it was senior day in
Penn State and you know, I would

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have the first aid play script and
it was like a screen, a tunnel

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screen or something like that. And
Javan refused to start because it was senior

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day and coachin was like, it's
your ploy man, he's so it was,

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and the Coachino's all right, let's
do this. Let's put the game

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away early and then Jay you can
go wave to the crowd. Bro.

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We we used to pet me and
Jay You used to paper like That's why

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I thought they haven't had like a
one two punch since me and jay you

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left. We used to like we
didn't care who started. We would paper

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rock scissors, but whoever got to
play first, like whatever, like what

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if you want this? Do you
want to? I don't care, all

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right whatever, whoever wins, they
got it and they would get they would

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get to play and like it was
the best time, best time of my

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life. Man. Yeah, you
guys, I tell you what. And

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the thing you guys did too is
how hard you guys practice. And you

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guys probably didn't even realize this when
you were players, but as a coach,

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how hard you guys worked every day. And the enthusiasm because again,

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you had fun while you're out there. That's contagious for the rest of our

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team, man, the rest of
you know, the other guys. Um

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then responded and practice that hard and
everything. But man, I'll tell you

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what it was. It was fun
to coach you guys. But you guys

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also were you get You made me
scratch my head a lot of times too,

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and some of the stuff you guys
were talking about it there. Remember

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remember the first time that Thursday I
did a dance in practice and You're like,

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Coach D, he's gonna kill you. But love key, Coach D

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loved it. And the Thursday he
comes, He's like, coach, he

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wants you to do a dance again. I thought you were gonna get it.

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Man, I did. I did, But you guys, I'd tell

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you what was Uh? What was
the one game too? Jay? You

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remember me and you almost gone to
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ups? Yes it was uh?
I think it was Kent State. Yeah,

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yeah, because that's the game.
I have like forty people from Africa,

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you know, come to that game, and I'm there, you know,

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getting after the country. Ye called
me in souther and I was like,

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I don't know what happened. Then
he's like, you know what's throwing.

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It's your senior years, so your
people you do after and then so

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we just go back and forth at
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because then I'm looking at me like, yo, what's going on? Because

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thank your mom. He's like,
chill, chill, chill, hugging again.

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We're best friends again. Yeahs gives
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just like, all right, we're
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Yes, exactly. How so let's
talk about coach. You know, you

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coached us at Michigan State, but
you will you're a spartan dog. Yeah,

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I man, it's been it's been
been a while since I've been back

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there, but um, I played
for five years. I was at GA

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for three years, that's eight,
and then I was a full time coach

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for four So I was. I
was there twelve years of my career in

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my life, which is the obviously
most I've been anywhere. And obviously I'm

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I'm like you guys, man,
I'm it's so fond of that place and

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have so many great memories and um, you know, having played for for

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George Perlis and you already mentioned Lorenzo
White, Javan I played with Lorenzo and

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UM, you guys had Tony mandrich
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him. I was very fortunate.
I played on some really really good teams,

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UM like you guys did as well. And uh, the experiences and

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the fun and the bond that you
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stuff that you you know that you
have for your entire lifetime and the memories

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that you have. And UM and
me, I've I've been so fortunate and

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blessed that not only have I experienced
it as a player, but I've been

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able to experience it as a coach
as well. UM there and and to

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be around what a special place that
is and UM special school and and and

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so many so many good people that
we had a chance to be involved with,

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and and so many experiences that come
along with it, as you guys

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know. Yeah, yeah, and
uh so with coach, I know you're

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at Arkansas now the OC there.
You know, you were Inabama and uh,

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you know you coached in the Big
you played in the Big Ten,

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you coached in the Big Ten.
Last season, you were coaching in the

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Big Ten at Maryland. UM.
I was a little pissed at you after

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that game. But UM, so
coaching and SEC coaching and the Big Ten,

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what are the parallels and what are
the differences of the two conferences?

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You know, that's funny, Um
that you asked that. I'm gonna say

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this, there's probably a lot more
similarities than there are differences in the two

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leagues. Um, people ask me
you know which league is best? I

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don't think it's even fair to even
to say which one's best. They're both

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great conferences. Um, they both
have great teams, great coaches, they

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both have great venues. That's been
something that's been really a blessing for me

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is being being in the SEC West
and obviously it'll be my fourth year and

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then been haven't been in the the
Big Ten for six years, being able

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to experience coaching and all the great
environments the Michigan States, the Michigan's,

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the Alabama's, the LSUS, the
Penn States, Um, all those different

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places. But um, there's there's
so much I think more comparable, meaning

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that there's just each and every week
you better be prepared mentally, physically,

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and emotionally to play. Um,
or if you're not, you're you're not

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You're not gonna win. And uh, it's so competitive both leagues, and

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the fine line that it is between
winning and losing is so close that I

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think that we're all what we're all
trying to do is trying to find our

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edge. What's our edge. As
a coach, you got to find an

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edge. You've got to try to
give an edge to your players. And

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as players, you're trying to find
your edge, whether it's through strength and

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conditioning or nutrition or how you know, how you take care of your body

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during the week, or obviously from
a schematic standpoint as well. But two

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great leagues, um, and and
and so, like I said, it's

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just I said, it's an honor
for me to have coached them, both

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of the leagues. But a lot
of comparisons, I think. I think

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the big things is this, I
know all four of you guys would have

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made a lot of money if you're
playing today. Yeah, you know,

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all those times when I was trying
to bring Jayu food and all that,

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you would have been probably bringing me
food because all the money you guys would

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have been making, you know,
if you're playing today, that's the big

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difference, you see. And and
and obviously the way the players are,

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the way they're treated and all that, which I think is obviously so awesome.

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That the players are the food we
can give them and all the all

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the things they get, and then
obviously the nil money that they're able to

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earn now and do all that.
Man, I think that's great and it's

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great for the for these young men. And again and um, you guys

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would have made a lot of money, you guys would have been But Coach,

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sure, you guys, I talked
about that because you've been all over

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the country and you've seen the transition
over time, like you know, and

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I know you have to get you
got a meeting coming up here, and

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we appreciate your time. But talk
about like the difference now and recruiting now

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getting specific than it was, you
know, when you're recruiting guys like too

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and Javan. I think it was, you know, it was so much

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more in my opinion, you know, it was. It was about relationships

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a lot more because if you were
able to establish a relationship with the young

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man, you had a chance to
beat other schools based on just your relationship

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with them. And now I think
there's other things that get involved that may

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give somebody an edge over you,
like I always felt like the guys that

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worked the hardest for the best recruiters, and it's still I think that's that's

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true to some degree, but now
with the amount of money that's been you

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know, in play, sometimes you
might be the best recruiter and the hardest

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worker, but if someone's going to
get something more going to another school,

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you know you can't. There's there's
nothing you can you can do about that.

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But um, I think at the
end of the day, UM,

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it's still is a lot about you
know, establishing relationships, and I think,

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um, you know, the big
thing is is, um, you

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gotta be able to show the players
like, hey, if you come here,

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this is what we can do for
you, you know what I mean.

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We can develop you this way,
we can help you when you leave

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here, you know, in these
areas maybe maybe other than football too,

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which I think is very very important. You know, the thing about like

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all four you guys and that I've
known for a long time and obviously had

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a chance to coach Ju and Javon
from personal level, you guys are all

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super bright guys, smart guys,
and we're great players. But you know

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that that's the thing about Kyle,
that's The thing about Michigan State that I'm

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so thankful for was the things I
learned there that gave me the opportunities to

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be able to do the things that
we all we all do now yeah,

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speaking of and I gotta bring it
up before we let you go. So

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at Maryland. We were there in
Maryland and uh and Javan fably don't.

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Javan don't know the story, but
we wanted you and coach beat because Beat

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Coach Barnett wanted to coach say what's
up to you? And what your response

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was? I don't Fratt and Eyes, Hey, you know, I said,

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I'm not very good on game day, guys, I'm not very good

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on game day. That's probably why
me and shoot you got into a fight

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before the game and right, you
know, for due, I was gonna

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bench the guys. But when you're
a coach, you know, it's like

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you know, and every game is
like you gotta be ready to go.

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So I just I just gotta tell
the guys that I know, I'll say,

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how you doing, good luck today? Stay healthy. I'm not very

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good talking on games. I gotta
go. Yeah, I got you,

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I Yo. I really appreciate you, man. You were the best,

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the best coach I've ever man,
and it was it wasn't even so much

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about the just the coaching part of
it, but just you as a person.

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Dog like, you're sarcasm, you're
you're a humor like all of it.

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Like, I appreciate you tremendously.
Man, Well, I mean this

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and all you guys. I appreciate
you guys, all you guys, and

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I appreciate this podcast. I've been
following it on Twitter and stuff, I

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seek clips and stuff. I'm like, this is awesome. I appreciate you

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having me on. Shoot you you
guys, but Jay Javann haven't coach you

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guys. I mean this bad.
I love you guys, and you guys

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were two of them my favorites.
I don't like to say that, so

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I don't tell anybody said that,
but ever if I rank them, like

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every day of going in there,
I was like, this is gonna be

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a new experience going in that room. And you guys seriously made made my

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life a lot a lot easier and
I enjoyed and thoroughly enjoyed coaching you guys.

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Thank you best to look all you
guys. I appreciate you having me

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on. Thank oh yeah, I
have me back. I love to Yeah,

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alright, damn enos, everybody know, y'all surprised me with that shit.

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Man. They have to have something
about sleeve, a little something.

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You were talking to you like,
yeah, coach, you know, message

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me. He's like, did he
message you? I was like, yeah,

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that's what I'm like. Y'all just
brought that up, like, Yo,

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did you really say this? Oh
my god, so you so you

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need a coffee, your coffee the
sweet like chocolate, you know, milkshake

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coffee and she need a chicken wing
yeah, or food whatever it was.

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It was one of those that bro
y'all know how kid like, especially back

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in the day, these kids don't
know shit about two of Days, Like

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they don't know nothing about that stuff, Like they don't know they don't know

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nothing about the two of days.
The constant banging. It didn't like it

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wasn't none of this science behind stuff
like guys have their legs and make sure

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they're not putting out x amount of
altitude on the field and too many steps

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and whatnot about that. We used
to we had we had them hard coach

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manning lifts like with just pounding the
way on the legs and stuff. And

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then at practice, and especially because
we were there when Coach D, it

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was Coach D and Coach Snardoozy just
they were all about didy like we're ditty

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liken. Oh yeah it was.
It was on phases of like thud and

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he'd be like in the middle of
like random live you like, oh my

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god, so hey, so Jason. So it was like so it was

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one of those I'm I can say
I was. I was dragging ass in

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the morning, like I'm dragging and
coach you know, was like, hey,

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bro, you bugging, Like hold
up, I'll be right back.

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This big thing callfe they gonna think
of coffee was out here like he was

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after that. He was the first
time though. It got me this time

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I ever saw coffee, it's somebody
because I've never had coffee in my life.

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But he was like a little really
like this. And then by the

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end of that hugging, I's gonna
ask chose, like were they bonus wings

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or bone in did you see him? Yeah? Yeah, we're definitely boning

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wings. Man. You see him, You witnessed him, you chicken,

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right, man, he ain't witness
there, He ain't witness Oh yeah,

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it's a it's a national treat treasure
for anyone to see you shoot you eat

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chicken wings. It's incredible. We
might do that, you know, because

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you know, got some stuff going
on. We're gonna be down at the

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Big ten media days and then we'll
you know, we we might have something

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going on Friday night with some people
and Chew can get some wings and stuff.

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But man, Jiffan, no,
let's let's talk about you. Man,

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this is about you. You know, you didn't think that you'd have

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served being in the hall because you
felt like you you didn't do enough mission.

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Say, well, you're just the
all purpose leader in yards and you

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know you you obviously had a great
career. Talk about you know, the

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things that you like to talk about
off the field. You brought mentioned some

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guys you know, mentioned Aj You're
thinking roommate or yours? Yeah, right,

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who what who do you remember?
That kind of helps you get along

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to the stage now as alas teammate. First things first, I mean these

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two right here, Oldis and ju
they were a huge part of just my

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my joy with being a Michigan State
spartan because we battled, we did our

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things on the field, and then
we also hung off, hung out off

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the field, and then like I
said, marm my boy man, my

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dog aj. He was a good
running back, but you know, I

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guess, you know, you kind
of just kind of how things go sometimes.

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He's but even with that because he
played running Like I said, he

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played running back too. Man,
this was my boy like he always had

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him out back. He was always
encouraging me and always keeping me up during

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like you know, some of them
hard times. Man, we maybe didn't

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win a game, so that was
things I remember. Like the football field

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is one thing, but it was
so much off to field with the brothers

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that I had, Man, that
just made my joy and my love for

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Michigan State last forever. Like I
can't yep even you know how God blessed

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me to have some time in the
NFL that like that doesn't that doesn't duplicate

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the time you spend with your boys
and in college, in college, you

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know, in the locker room,
like those are things that were always a

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joy of me, man, which
made all of this, you know,

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my time in Michigan State. M
Man. Yeah, man, it's it's

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it's I'm just sitting and like I'm
like this guy oldis and the oldest know

408
00:28:40.440 --> 00:28:45.079
says he went oldest you know,
and I really reconnected last year and you

409
00:28:45.119 --> 00:28:47.839
know, there was all this and
then there was the Hall of Fame last

410
00:28:47.880 --> 00:28:49.680
year. You know, Greg Jones
got in, another guy we played with,

411
00:28:49.759 --> 00:28:52.319
and you know, and then oldis
and I looked at me like,

412
00:28:52.400 --> 00:28:56.640
damn, what what did you vin
have to do to be getting to get

413
00:28:56.680 --> 00:29:00.160
in here? Even like you and
me, we let me say this.

414
00:29:00.319 --> 00:29:04.279
So okay, So Greg, first
off, big shout outs to Greg.

415
00:29:04.519 --> 00:29:07.960
Yeah, when he got in,
I was like, yo, I get

416
00:29:08.000 --> 00:29:12.519
it. Think about Greg. Greg. Greg was all Big Ten, like

417
00:29:12.720 --> 00:29:18.519
three years of the row. First
he was part of the first Big Ten

418
00:29:18.680 --> 00:29:22.400
championship. It's like back in the
nineties that Michigan State is one. He

419
00:29:22.519 --> 00:29:26.799
was defensive player of the Year in
the Big Ten. Like these are all

420
00:29:26.880 --> 00:29:33.240
things. I'm like, yo,
wait, that's yeah. We think he

421
00:29:34.119 --> 00:29:37.279
we I think he deserves to be
and he should have been in last year

422
00:29:37.400 --> 00:29:42.839
exactly. But I think you're you
know, because because I see it.

423
00:29:44.000 --> 00:29:47.920
I've been in the in the in
the in the running backs room with you.

424
00:29:48.000 --> 00:29:49.880
I've been in the hotel with you. I mean your your parents,

425
00:29:51.119 --> 00:29:53.960
you know, my mom, your
parents would come will say prayers Sat Friday

426
00:29:55.039 --> 00:29:56.880
nights in the hotel room. You
know, our families would get together and

427
00:29:56.920 --> 00:30:00.599
see that I see the person you
are. I see you know, the

428
00:30:00.720 --> 00:30:04.319
athletic prowess that you bring, you
know. And this is one of my

429
00:30:04.359 --> 00:30:08.480
favorite games here, this Indiana game
that was my senior day there and uh,

430
00:30:08.599 --> 00:30:18.200
that's nice peel back who did that? Yeah, the unselfish moments this

431
00:30:18.240 --> 00:30:22.599
game here when I fumbled and then
you faked an injury so I could score

432
00:30:22.599 --> 00:30:27.839
a touchdown and feel better about myself. So that's funny. I remember that,

433
00:30:29.039 --> 00:30:37.160
like fumble, they brought it back
and then we're in and it was

434
00:30:37.279 --> 00:30:38.799
you know, usually we was tag
team, but I stayed in and I

435
00:30:38.839 --> 00:30:42.079
stayed in that whole drive. When
we got down there, I remember I

436
00:30:42.160 --> 00:30:47.319
got like I got, I got
a selected two and I'm trying to get

437
00:30:47.359 --> 00:30:49.839
myself out. Yeah, this is
this is my dog j he want these

438
00:30:49.839 --> 00:30:55.680
touchdowns an outside zone play too,
Yeah, and they're like I remember they

439
00:30:55.680 --> 00:30:57.359
were telling me like no staying there. And then I was like all right,

440
00:30:57.599 --> 00:31:07.240
un I wasn't about to let that
be the last time you touch the

441
00:31:07.279 --> 00:31:12.359
ball. Oh my na, bro, you're my dog is six broke is

442
00:31:12.400 --> 00:31:17.319
touchdowns. Then I'm running We do
the thing. I'm running out, I'm

443
00:31:17.400 --> 00:31:19.039
running into I was running out.
We go do the hype. He looks

444
00:31:19.079 --> 00:31:22.400
at me and gives me that smile
and then it just hits me. I

445
00:31:22.440 --> 00:31:26.559
was like that of a gun.
Faith and injury and back to the village

446
00:31:26.960 --> 00:31:30.319
and I'm sitting there. I was
like, rings, did you thinking injury?

447
00:31:30.319 --> 00:31:33.680
He's like, yeah, man,
I couldn't let you go out like

448
00:31:33.720 --> 00:31:37.680
that. You gotta store and you
gotta feel good, you know. And

449
00:31:37.720 --> 00:31:41.119
that's what I said, Like,
especially in college football, we're all competing,

450
00:31:41.279 --> 00:31:42.880
we all wanted to play at the
next level. Ye and you have

451
00:31:44.319 --> 00:31:48.559
a running mate that is willing to
do something like that for you to make

452
00:31:48.640 --> 00:31:52.799
me look good, to make me
feel good, to elevate my stats.

453
00:31:52.160 --> 00:31:55.440
That is something And it's off right
there. And that's what I said.

454
00:31:55.440 --> 00:31:57.559
Like a lot of people from the
outside, they see number twenty three,

455
00:31:57.680 --> 00:32:00.480
you know, Jivan running around this
all. He's a great player. He's

456
00:32:00.480 --> 00:32:04.759
a great player. But Otis knows
this, Jason knows this. Every single

457
00:32:04.799 --> 00:32:08.119
person that you played with. No, you're a better person than a football

458
00:32:08.160 --> 00:32:13.039
player, thank you. I know. Before we get too emotional, you

459
00:32:13.039 --> 00:32:15.440
know, we're gonna get into some
front of stuff. We're gonna talk about,

460
00:32:15.519 --> 00:32:17.920
you know, some of the top
plays and you know, some photo

461
00:32:19.000 --> 00:32:22.680
caption opportunities of what people have been
saying about it on you know, the

462
00:32:22.720 --> 00:32:24.160
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467
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All right, guys, So look, you know we're gonna let's let's talk

468
00:32:49.720 --> 00:32:53.279
a little bit about the top plays. You know, we have like five

469
00:32:53.400 --> 00:32:58.720
plays that everybody's been talking about,
the Javin Ringer Top five. We have

470
00:32:58.759 --> 00:33:01.400
any in that video for I fell
Us in the Back. I want to

471
00:33:01.400 --> 00:33:07.480
see if you you agree with all
these two. Yeah. So the only

472
00:33:07.519 --> 00:33:14.000
reason okay, so the well I
agree with that one was because that was

473
00:33:14.559 --> 00:33:16.880
I set the record of the and
the you know, the touchdown record.

474
00:33:16.920 --> 00:33:19.920
So I was all right, that's
cool, all right, we can go

475
00:33:19.960 --> 00:33:22.480
with that one. Um. It
was honestly hard for me to kind of

476
00:33:22.519 --> 00:33:28.640
like decide on some on on like
a trap trap just got married, just

477
00:33:28.759 --> 00:33:35.079
got married last weekend too, congratulations
trass. So I think this crazy.

478
00:33:35.200 --> 00:33:37.000
I think this one means a lot
because we was down too, like we

479
00:33:37.079 --> 00:33:43.119
needed that touchdown. So that one
because I'm not even even when I'll be

480
00:33:43.160 --> 00:33:45.920
talking with some of these recruits,
I'm not a huge fan of like some

481
00:33:45.039 --> 00:33:47.720
goal I wrong when it's just that
easy. I was untouched. I was

482
00:33:47.799 --> 00:33:53.119
untouched, Like that's not a highlight. But I agree with that because I

483
00:33:53.200 --> 00:33:55.880
agree with that one because, like
I said, that was I was able

484
00:33:55.880 --> 00:34:00.200
to kind of set the record of
the touchdowns in a single season that with

485
00:34:00.279 --> 00:34:01.839
that touchdown. So it was like, all right, we could go with

486
00:34:01.920 --> 00:34:06.079
that one, Like running backs can
say that because you'll be crossing the goal

487
00:34:06.160 --> 00:34:12.400
line all the time, like it
was, we da catching that thing.

488
00:34:12.519 --> 00:34:16.280
Take it to there. You're untouched, bro, you're talking good man.

489
00:34:16.480 --> 00:34:20.199
I want the only guys on the
line that touched the ball. We have

490
00:34:20.360 --> 00:34:22.280
no shot at making of dace touchdown, right, you know, unless you

491
00:34:22.320 --> 00:34:25.679
fall on it. So that play
there, you didn't go were you on

492
00:34:25.840 --> 00:34:30.840
field goal team? On a field
goal team? Yeah. You wasn't on

493
00:34:30.920 --> 00:34:37.639
paw, you know, I wasn't
one. That's because we were I think

494
00:34:37.639 --> 00:34:40.760
we're we had it went for two
yeah, okay, okay, I was

495
00:34:40.800 --> 00:34:45.880
like, hey, you got somebody. Look I remember. All I remember

496
00:34:45.960 --> 00:34:49.119
is Jay used to be on that
side. He used to be out here,

497
00:34:49.199 --> 00:34:57.119
punch of life. Yeah. I
did that for one year. Started

498
00:34:57.239 --> 00:35:01.079
making plays and I was like,
hey man, you know because some of

499
00:35:01.079 --> 00:35:04.840
those plays, like even my Lord, like it's it's let's let's look at

500
00:35:04.840 --> 00:35:07.320
another one. This one is my
favorite. This is my favorite because this

501
00:35:07.360 --> 00:35:09.840
was a turn up right here I
had. I got a lot of so

502
00:35:10.039 --> 00:35:16.519
that one. This is Michigan,
so listen, listen. I picked it

503
00:35:16.880 --> 00:35:22.639
was. It was a good run. Yes, yes, ken somebody at

504
00:35:22.639 --> 00:35:25.880
the end of the day, I
didn't finish. You got a score.

505
00:35:25.920 --> 00:35:30.079
I got caught like And that's why
I tell that's why I tell kids today,

506
00:35:30.440 --> 00:35:37.679
run track right every because my hit
fletchers, my hit fletchers were fatigued.

507
00:35:37.719 --> 00:35:40.840
They weren't strong enough, like I
wasn't everybody who were on the track,

508
00:35:40.920 --> 00:35:44.920
y'all know about having a good knee
drive and bring yourself. I didn't

509
00:35:44.960 --> 00:35:47.760
have that. So now blame Mark
Neal hedn't peeled back like Terry loved you.

510
00:35:51.079 --> 00:35:54.079
My favorite thing is you patting him
on the head. I was mor

511
00:35:54.599 --> 00:35:59.280
Morse was a man, good shit
man, like yo. I was mad

512
00:35:59.320 --> 00:36:01.679
on this, like yo, I
gotta finish that. But it was a

513
00:36:01.719 --> 00:36:05.800
good run. But on a lot
of my long runs, I wish I

514
00:36:05.800 --> 00:36:07.239
would have run track more. But
now I just used it as a teaching

515
00:36:07.320 --> 00:36:12.480
lesson to like, hey, yo, all kids in high school run track

516
00:36:12.599 --> 00:36:15.159
because you don't want to be like
me and get caught. Like I had

517
00:36:15.239 --> 00:36:19.679
great acceleration and explosion through the hole, but when it came to that long

518
00:36:19.800 --> 00:36:22.440
speed, maintaining my top ends to
me, I had weak hip flexers.

519
00:36:22.480 --> 00:36:25.400
But that I would have gotten by
the run track. So hey, kids,

520
00:36:25.440 --> 00:36:30.920
don't be like me. Run track, run track. You might be

521
00:36:30.960 --> 00:36:35.800
able to make it into all of
fame. Maybe when you're in your twenties.

522
00:36:36.079 --> 00:36:38.960
I don't know. But let's look
at the other run against Northwestern here,

523
00:36:39.360 --> 00:36:49.280
No Western, Yeah, man,
appreciate that from rolling. Look that's

524
00:36:49.280 --> 00:36:52.280
when you did that, just trying
to hit it, man. Yeah that

525
00:36:53.480 --> 00:37:00.400
I was lucky enough. I was
lucky enough that my dog who fell off

526
00:37:00.440 --> 00:37:04.039
my who fell off my shoulders he
had a cast on, so he couldn't

527
00:37:04.039 --> 00:37:08.119
really grab me completely. Oma.
Maybe maybe that helped me out. You

528
00:37:08.159 --> 00:37:10.440
know what, I helped you.
You know what helped you? Call you

529
00:37:12.039 --> 00:37:19.440
were fast? That's wrong. Guy
could have had ten fingers, he can

530
00:37:19.639 --> 00:37:22.280
and he's still wouldn't got I mean
I was strong, just you know,

531
00:37:22.320 --> 00:37:25.719
I could lift a lot and I
was explosive, but I do with like,

532
00:37:27.760 --> 00:37:29.360
I don't know. I wish I
would a ran track. It would

533
00:37:29.400 --> 00:37:31.679
have helped me out a lot with
my long speed and not have been able

534
00:37:31.679 --> 00:37:35.480
to get caught on something rous but
ain't. At the end of the day,

535
00:37:35.599 --> 00:37:37.519
God was good man, God bless
me. Now this one here's my

536
00:37:37.599 --> 00:37:42.719
favorite. This run here's my favorite
because it's such a teaching moment with running

537
00:37:42.719 --> 00:37:45.199
backs. What you're supposed to do. We practiced at those two hand shields

538
00:37:45.440 --> 00:37:50.760
boom boom, boom, then spin
off and spin off. Yeah, man,

539
00:37:50.880 --> 00:37:52.480
I know what though, And when
we were in the white unions,

540
00:37:52.519 --> 00:37:59.320
you look real like leaner right,
like it's like that's crazy, like you

541
00:37:59.480 --> 00:38:01.599
feel a big tells the opposite.
You know, that was a big game,

542
00:38:01.679 --> 00:38:06.800
manly because that was that was my
first time ever playing in Michigan Stadium.

543
00:38:07.599 --> 00:38:13.320
Because I didn't play like my freshman
or they were home, they came

544
00:38:13.360 --> 00:38:15.000
to us. That's when we played
them at overtime. Then my sophomore year

545
00:38:15.000 --> 00:38:19.840
when y'all went there, I was
hurt. So I didn't play in that

546
00:38:19.880 --> 00:38:22.000
game. But uh, that was
a that was a big one, finally

547
00:38:22.000 --> 00:38:25.199
playing in the big house and finally
getting that first because that was the first

548
00:38:25.199 --> 00:38:30.400
win against Michigan at Michigan since like
what they say, nineteen ninety Yeah,

549
00:38:30.039 --> 00:38:32.519
so have been a part of that. Man, it was a huge It

550
00:38:32.559 --> 00:38:37.639
was a blessing. Man, you
talked about being a part of that.

551
00:38:37.719 --> 00:38:39.400
I think you're a huge part of
that. When you look at this,

552
00:38:40.199 --> 00:38:45.920
so you want to hear so what's
wild about that? I know my homeboys

553
00:38:45.920 --> 00:38:47.199
were everybody. They were happy in
the in the locker room. But I

554
00:38:47.199 --> 00:38:51.000
actually, I don't even know if
I should say this here, but what

555
00:38:51.199 --> 00:38:53.400
I was kind of I wasn't.
I was really kind of like, man,

556
00:38:54.039 --> 00:38:57.519
yeah, we won this game,
but we should have won this game.

557
00:38:57.559 --> 00:39:05.480
The game I wanted to win was
I don't give Michigan like f Michigan,

558
00:39:06.000 --> 00:39:09.320
like I don't care nothing about But
I will say, like in two

559
00:39:09.320 --> 00:39:13.480
thousand and eight, they weren't that
good like in two thousand and seven.

560
00:39:13.840 --> 00:39:16.480
For me, that was when they
were like, all right, hey,

561
00:39:16.719 --> 00:39:21.199
Lloyd Card, Yeah, I do
not like Michigan. I will never like

562
00:39:21.360 --> 00:39:23.719
Michigan. I don't care nothing about
them or their players, but I respect

563
00:39:23.800 --> 00:39:29.719
tilent them boys were good like they
were good in two thousand. That was

564
00:39:29.760 --> 00:39:32.800
the game that I wanted us to
win. We wanted two thousand and eight.

565
00:39:32.840 --> 00:39:37.880
It was like, all right,
I'm thankful, yes, but damn

566
00:39:37.880 --> 00:39:42.360
I wish we could man, Like
that was the game I wanted. But

567
00:39:43.000 --> 00:39:45.719
yeah, that was cool though.
I'm glad, I am factful that we

568
00:39:45.760 --> 00:39:52.440
did get that. Oh boy,
I got your finding trouble here. I

569
00:39:52.519 --> 00:40:02.400
apologize you. Yeah, that's my
fault, man, I'm sorry. You're

570
00:40:02.440 --> 00:40:06.519
good. Oh, you're totally good. Because we want to get into the

571
00:40:06.880 --> 00:40:08.880
captions here, let's look, let's
do a little trip down that. Let's

572
00:40:08.960 --> 00:40:14.079
see the picture of you in the
middle of all the Michigan wolver rings here.

573
00:40:15.800 --> 00:40:20.719
Hey what they say? That's a
d laming what I know? You

574
00:40:20.840 --> 00:40:22.920
remember it like it's yesterday, Will
Yeah, it was after the run.

575
00:40:22.960 --> 00:40:25.880
It was just you know, it
was just like it was like a like

576
00:40:25.880 --> 00:40:30.280
a two to three yard run it
happened. I've got up. They talking

577
00:40:30.360 --> 00:40:32.480
mess like I wasn't. I was. I'm doing my mind of my business.

578
00:40:32.559 --> 00:40:36.280
I'm walking back to the huddle.
I hear, I hear, I

579
00:40:36.360 --> 00:40:38.880
hear my dogs say say some slick
mess. So I turned back, like

580
00:40:39.000 --> 00:40:43.039
what and then we just kind of
start going at it. And now they

581
00:40:43.119 --> 00:40:45.400
all around me like, bro,
I ain't I ain't no punk, No,

582
00:40:45.679 --> 00:40:47.599
that ain't. That ain't how spartans
get down. So where where the

583
00:40:47.639 --> 00:40:51.239
lot? We're the office of laming
that usually supposed to coverage. No,

584
00:40:51.320 --> 00:40:53.519
no, they hey, many it
was on to the next play. That's

585
00:40:53.519 --> 00:40:57.400
how our our model was like,
on to the next one. But me,

586
00:40:57.440 --> 00:41:00.239
I'm I don't know, Like,
yeah, I don't know. While

587
00:41:00.239 --> 00:41:06.639
you're wearing long sleeves, it was
it's always. It was an October month,

588
00:41:06.719 --> 00:41:14.880
it was little, it was a
little cold. I wear my sleeves

589
00:41:14.880 --> 00:41:21.119
and I still ain't going to the
ball. So what do you remember exactly

590
00:41:21.159 --> 00:41:24.519
what you said? No? I
can't. I can't even pull nothing out

591
00:41:24.559 --> 00:41:28.519
of my butt right now about what
I might know. I don't remember exactly

592
00:41:28.519 --> 00:41:30.679
what it was. I don't know. If you got a chance to read

593
00:41:30.719 --> 00:41:35.800
with people, some some viewers said
that they thought you said, bro a

594
00:41:35.800 --> 00:41:42.519
few less trips to the buffet scoreboard
boy time story our boy, what you

595
00:41:42.559 --> 00:41:49.079
say A BYuT? My mama doing
all this to y'all on one hamstring?

596
00:41:49.760 --> 00:41:54.800
Yeah, I had again another lesson. I tell a lot of a lot

597
00:41:54.840 --> 00:41:59.199
of guys, especially running backs,
you have to play special teams. You

598
00:41:59.199 --> 00:42:00.719
gotta know how to play. It
ain't gonna it's not gonna just click for

599
00:42:00.800 --> 00:42:05.639
you if you have that chance to
go to the NFL. But yeah,

600
00:42:05.719 --> 00:42:08.719
and it and it sucks because it's
always like that last we were doing like

601
00:42:08.719 --> 00:42:15.280
some kickoff a term that Thursday last
period didn't Yeah, just fishing up.

602
00:42:15.559 --> 00:42:20.039
I'm out there. Yeah, I
got the ball. I ran like maybe

603
00:42:20.199 --> 00:42:24.440
fifteen yards and I felt I felt
like a pool and it like a big

604
00:42:24.480 --> 00:42:29.920
strain in my hands. I fell
and everything like yo what And yeah,

605
00:42:30.000 --> 00:42:32.960
I like strained my hamstring that Thursday. And I'm not gonna say it was

606
00:42:34.000 --> 00:42:37.199
a complete tear or nothing like that, but it was definitely like I pulled

607
00:42:37.239 --> 00:42:40.199
my hamstring to the point to where
I felt it and it made me fall

608
00:42:40.639 --> 00:42:45.480
and then um, I remember I
was with the trainers and they were looking

609
00:42:45.519 --> 00:42:47.119
at my hair that they felt that
he was like, not in my hand.

610
00:42:47.159 --> 00:42:50.880
Well, coach Manning. Coach Manning
came over to me, man,

611
00:42:50.960 --> 00:42:52.320
yeah he was. They felt that
not in there when they were trying to

612
00:42:52.320 --> 00:42:59.039
We're trying to rub it out and
rehabit that Thursday evening and night and all

613
00:42:59.079 --> 00:43:02.920
of Friday and one in the Saturday. So I definitely had that thing wrapped

614
00:43:04.039 --> 00:43:07.599
up. It is a It is
a blessing that I was able to play

615
00:43:07.599 --> 00:43:12.320
in that game. But yeah,
I tweaked my ham during that Thursday,

616
00:43:12.360 --> 00:43:15.119
but by the grace of God,
I was able to still contribute, still

617
00:43:15.119 --> 00:43:19.800
contribute during that game. You talked
about the grace of God. Even the

618
00:43:19.880 --> 00:43:22.079
earlier heard she was saying that,
you know, part of the reason you

619
00:43:22.119 --> 00:43:25.320
guys bonded so much was not only
you got a roommates on the road.

620
00:43:25.440 --> 00:43:29.679
You guys, your teammates, you're
selfless, but there was prayer, your

621
00:43:29.719 --> 00:43:34.239
parents come and your mom would come. Yeah, my mother, my mother

622
00:43:34.400 --> 00:43:37.920
really loved Jay YouTube. She loved
his story. She loved just even with

623
00:43:37.079 --> 00:43:43.119
knowing his story, just how he
was as a person, how he was

624
00:43:43.159 --> 00:43:45.440
to me, would be an older
older than me, and she loved the

625
00:43:45.519 --> 00:43:51.320
brotherhood that we had together. With
sharing that backfield. So my mother is

626
00:43:51.320 --> 00:43:52.960
a praying woman. Man. She
would come into our home. She would

627
00:43:52.960 --> 00:43:55.559
come like, hold on, hold
on, hold on, let's just ask

628
00:43:55.599 --> 00:44:22.400
her about it. Let's bring her
on the show for everybody anyway, Like

629
00:44:22.519 --> 00:44:27.800
I was saying my class, my
mother would come like she loved J's relationship

630
00:44:28.159 --> 00:44:30.559
and every game, like we were
in the hotel, she would come into

631
00:44:30.559 --> 00:44:34.280
the room, man, and she
would she would grab both our hands and

632
00:44:34.360 --> 00:44:37.159
we would have our prayer movement.
Man. It was something something that we

633
00:44:37.199 --> 00:44:42.440
took serious, man, because I
love God. Man. God has been

634
00:44:42.480 --> 00:44:45.679
tremendous to me, which is something
that I in my upbringing with my parents

635
00:44:45.679 --> 00:44:50.599
and my late father. Yeah,
that that was a huge part of I

636
00:44:50.639 --> 00:44:53.239
felt like all my success at Michigan
State and then me and Ju together,

637
00:44:53.639 --> 00:44:58.119
Mam was definitely praying for Yeah.
I know too. Even we did that

638
00:44:58.159 --> 00:45:00.480
in the hotel room. I remember
after warm up we go back to the

639
00:45:00.480 --> 00:45:04.119
locker room, you and I would
go off in the shower, yes,

640
00:45:04.239 --> 00:45:06.960
and prayer before we get head back
on the field again. You know,

641
00:45:06.960 --> 00:45:14.199
it's one of those things. So
talk about somna ring your darling, you

642
00:45:14.199 --> 00:45:21.800
know, talk about I was supposed
to tell you. I wasn't supposed to

643
00:45:21.880 --> 00:45:25.679
say anything or you do this weekend. Uh, Jay, you called me

644
00:45:27.639 --> 00:45:30.719
and so I knew when I was
up there this past weekend. So I

645
00:45:30.760 --> 00:45:32.679
wasn't supposed to say anything. That's
why when you when you gave them when

646
00:45:32.679 --> 00:45:42.599
you put her on FaceTime on Saturday, I was like, yeah, but

647
00:45:42.679 --> 00:45:45.280
we're trying get up there every Friday
before the game because I think, you

648
00:45:45.320 --> 00:45:50.960
know, prayer covers the kids from
injury, you know, and and prayer

649
00:45:51.039 --> 00:45:53.039
is always in order. So every
time we would, I would get off

650
00:45:53.039 --> 00:45:55.519
from work because I was working,
So we try and get up there before

651
00:45:55.639 --> 00:46:00.519
nine o'clock before the coach shutting down
the floor and I let it body you

652
00:46:00.559 --> 00:46:04.920
know up there. You know.
Ross Weaver, I think was another one

653
00:46:05.000 --> 00:46:07.800
that we was prayed for at that
time. So we had some that we're

654
00:46:07.840 --> 00:46:10.519
really special and close to our heart
that were praying. So we'd have prayer

655
00:46:10.559 --> 00:46:14.519
in the room. And by the
time the season ended, we had quite

656
00:46:14.519 --> 00:46:17.960
a few people that was coming in
the room for prayer and even ju your

657
00:46:19.039 --> 00:46:22.320
parents came in the room and we
always having prayer. So we was building

658
00:46:22.320 --> 00:46:29.119
a little group up there, you
know, for prayer. Special So how

659
00:46:29.159 --> 00:46:30.840
did you feel, when did you
get the news that Javine was going to

660
00:46:30.920 --> 00:46:35.760
be in the Hall of Fame at
Michigan State. Javine, was that the

661
00:46:35.800 --> 00:46:37.639
day that they told you? When
you told me? Or when did you?

662
00:46:37.679 --> 00:46:40.159
When did you tell me? No? I knew like a day or

663
00:46:40.199 --> 00:46:45.400
so before I told you here,
Okay, So I was excited for him.

664
00:46:45.480 --> 00:46:49.800
I'm just glad that, you know, he's alive to be able to

665
00:46:50.320 --> 00:46:53.800
enjoy the event. And I do
think that he is very deserving. He's

666
00:46:53.840 --> 00:46:58.559
worked hard, he's played hard,
and he is a humble person. I

667
00:46:58.559 --> 00:47:00.960
mean, he got his ways,
but he is a very humble person.

668
00:47:00.039 --> 00:47:04.440
He is giving, so all those
things that people are saying about him,

669
00:47:04.480 --> 00:47:07.239
it's true. He's not one way
out in public and another way at home.

670
00:47:07.360 --> 00:47:13.679
He's He's a very very selfless and
a very giving person. And I'm

671
00:47:13.719 --> 00:47:15.679
proud to have him, you know, ask my son, Hey, Jason.

672
00:47:15.719 --> 00:47:21.559
I actually I was very casual when
I told my mother, like she

673
00:47:21.679 --> 00:47:22.960
was here in my house here and
I just said, hey, hey,

674
00:47:22.960 --> 00:47:27.320
by the way, I'm getting inducted. I got to twenty three Hall of

675
00:47:27.360 --> 00:47:30.800
Michigan State, all the fame.
I said it very melo. I don't

676
00:47:30.800 --> 00:47:36.079
know I didn't want it to be
because I ain't want it to be over

677
00:47:36.119 --> 00:47:39.280
the top. So she left that. I said it to a very casual

678
00:47:39.599 --> 00:47:43.960
just kind of like it's a normal
conversation, just because that's not what I

679
00:47:44.000 --> 00:47:47.159
wanted. I didn't want it to
be. I had time to calm myself

680
00:47:47.239 --> 00:47:51.880
down. I wanted to keep everybody
else right there too, Like, yo,

681
00:47:52.880 --> 00:47:55.440
just be cool, man, b
be relaxed, be chill. But

682
00:47:55.519 --> 00:47:59.239
it's a big moment. It's okay
to celebrate it. And this is not

683
00:47:59.320 --> 00:48:02.039
something that happens every day. You
know, basically, you know, inducted

684
00:48:02.079 --> 00:48:06.599
into a Hall of fame like this, it's very I mean telling that the

685
00:48:06.679 --> 00:48:08.400
kind of young man you were when
you were at an an athlete that man

686
00:48:08.519 --> 00:48:12.119
can say then now like you hear
all these stories, man, I mean

687
00:48:12.159 --> 00:48:14.679
it's good. Like you said,
you thought you're gonna be fifty years old

688
00:48:14.760 --> 00:48:19.079
or yeah, OUs being oldest and
you you know, like you might get

689
00:48:19.119 --> 00:48:22.039
in there and then old this then
when I'm you know, about about one

690
00:48:22.079 --> 00:48:24.960
hundred and twenty years, my great
grandchildren, like you know, they had

691
00:48:25.000 --> 00:48:30.360
just a jersey. You know this
is good. You're healthy, you're young.

692
00:48:30.800 --> 00:48:34.639
You know your daughter can witnesses too, you have. Yeah, that's

693
00:48:34.719 --> 00:48:37.840
that's it's funny. As much as
I didn't want a daughter, God knows,

694
00:48:37.840 --> 00:48:42.920
I didn't want a daughter, having
a daughter has been tremendous to me.

695
00:48:42.960 --> 00:48:45.320
You know, I still deal with
my own little stuff, but having

696
00:48:45.400 --> 00:48:49.960
heard and having her be able to
experience this with me, Like even though

697
00:48:50.000 --> 00:48:53.000
I know she's only two, so
of course she might not remember a lot

698
00:48:53.039 --> 00:48:55.280
of it, but just being able
to have those pictures with her, Man,

699
00:48:55.320 --> 00:49:00.360
it's it's a I like you said, me and my wife we talked

700
00:49:00.400 --> 00:49:02.440
about this before, like I didn't
if I had any chance, and it's

701
00:49:02.480 --> 00:49:06.559
happened. Like a lot of guys
are super old by the time they get

702
00:49:06.639 --> 00:49:08.760
in and right then I'm able to
get this now, to be able to

703
00:49:08.800 --> 00:49:13.840
experience this with my family and my
friends. I talked with my dog,

704
00:49:13.880 --> 00:49:15.159
coach d you know, he told
me he was gonna be able to be

705
00:49:15.199 --> 00:49:19.320
back for that coach Man. He
texts me, I love coach Man.

706
00:49:19.400 --> 00:49:22.039
I gotta I gotta make sure I
make coaches manning back us being able to

707
00:49:22.039 --> 00:49:25.480
experience that with them, and then
uh, and then my daughter, my

708
00:49:25.599 --> 00:49:30.400
family, Man, it means the
world too, and we can't forget your

709
00:49:30.480 --> 00:49:34.079
dash. You know, we did
lose My husband was a year ago in

710
00:49:34.119 --> 00:49:37.800
October, and I know if he
was still alife, he'd be super proud,

711
00:49:37.599 --> 00:49:42.320
a divine because he was one of
his biggest fans. So I'm just

712
00:49:42.360 --> 00:49:45.960
thankful that I'm still alive at least
to be able to um, you know,

713
00:49:45.000 --> 00:49:51.480
see this day, this moment.
But he was Devin's biggest cheerleader,

714
00:49:51.599 --> 00:49:55.559
biggest fan. Never missed any of
the MSU games at all, even when

715
00:49:55.599 --> 00:49:59.599
he had to go to church on
Sunday. We get up at four eight

716
00:49:59.840 --> 00:50:04.320
m in the morning just to drive
back so he can preach his Sunday morning

717
00:50:04.400 --> 00:50:07.639
services. But he was not going
to miss any of the MSU games,

718
00:50:07.159 --> 00:50:10.360
Uh, to make sure he was
there to support Javan. So I know

719
00:50:10.400 --> 00:50:15.079
if he was still here, he
would just be tickle pink. Yeah,

720
00:50:15.639 --> 00:50:17.840
it was one the one story we
I forgot what year we went back to

721
00:50:17.960 --> 00:50:22.840
Dayton and uh, we went to
church service and I was trying to spegere

722
00:50:22.880 --> 00:50:27.199
out, like, man, where's
the vine get his athletic ability? Because

723
00:50:27.199 --> 00:50:30.079
this man is a different he's he's
a he's he's a different creature and he's

724
00:50:30.119 --> 00:50:34.920
like he's on Gili guys like he
has different powers, right, And so

725
00:50:35.039 --> 00:50:38.719
I remember your dad was preaching and
he got into that guy, into that

726
00:50:38.760 --> 00:50:44.440
flow. The spirit started to move
and he stood up on that little a

727
00:50:44.440 --> 00:50:52.280
little real and I was like,
man, I was like old, my

728
00:50:52.400 --> 00:50:55.320
dad was older. Man, I
know, you know exactly what I'm talking

729
00:50:55.320 --> 00:50:58.360
about. He stood up on there, he started, Yeah, he started

730
00:50:58.400 --> 00:51:00.039
up on the rail. Yeah,
you know, I'm like, oh man,

731
00:51:00.079 --> 00:51:01.920
that's I was like, you get
it from that. But he also

732
00:51:01.960 --> 00:51:05.880
getting from Mama ring or two something. I think, all right, I

733
00:51:05.960 --> 00:51:10.360
guess I get him something. So
Mama rings um. You know, we

734
00:51:10.360 --> 00:51:15.519
we just played you know, some
of the big plays by javan and everything.

735
00:51:15.599 --> 00:51:17.280
You know, and you see highlights
and everything. What was one of

736
00:51:17.280 --> 00:51:22.480
your favorite you know moments for Javon
on the field. Well, I kind

737
00:51:22.519 --> 00:51:25.519
of liked the one where he was
going like Superman, but you know,

738
00:51:25.599 --> 00:51:31.079
they didn't do that one. And
at the Michigan game where he was standing

739
00:51:31.079 --> 00:51:35.159
in between all those guys, I
told my husband, I said, they're

740
00:51:35.159 --> 00:51:37.079
saying something to Javine and he's like, no, they ain't saying nothing,

741
00:51:37.400 --> 00:51:40.599
and I said, yeah they are. And so when I seen Javine kind

742
00:51:40.599 --> 00:51:44.199
of do his head like this to
the guy, I said, I told

743
00:51:44.239 --> 00:51:45.400
my husband, See, I know
they was messing with them. So they

744
00:51:45.440 --> 00:51:49.400
had been picking with him anyway,
and you know, you picked with Javone

745
00:51:49.480 --> 00:51:52.000
long enough, he get fed up, you know, and then you don't

746
00:51:52.039 --> 00:51:53.840
have to deal with him. So
they was kind of egging him, you

747
00:51:53.880 --> 00:51:58.719
know. But I would say the
one where he was flying like Superman,

748
00:51:58.920 --> 00:52:02.840
he was number thirty nine then.
And I also like the run where unfortunately

749
00:52:02.880 --> 00:52:07.599
he got called making that long run
because that was like one of his high

750
00:52:07.679 --> 00:52:12.159
school runs where you think you got
him locked up and he'll go around the

751
00:52:12.159 --> 00:52:15.280
other way and come out, but
he'd make it in then. So that

752
00:52:15.400 --> 00:52:19.960
was one of them high school moments
um when he was a running back then.

753
00:52:20.119 --> 00:52:23.920
So that high that super Man one. She talking about Illinois. Yeah,

754
00:52:24.519 --> 00:52:29.440
Illinois. I had that nasty number
thirty nine when they just used to

755
00:52:29.519 --> 00:52:34.239
give you compared to nowadays, he's
kids getting he no, no, you

756
00:52:34.239 --> 00:52:38.199
need to stop. You got his
number though, yeah, you got his

757
00:52:38.320 --> 00:52:45.480
number. Experience did we do one
thing, Nick, But that moment,

758
00:52:45.519 --> 00:52:51.840
that game, that Illinois momentum,
that uh, that was a moment where

759
00:52:52.880 --> 00:52:59.360
it hit me that Javon was a
different breed. Of running backs because we're

760
00:52:59.360 --> 00:53:05.280
staying on the side and he jumps
from like that the five and seven.

761
00:53:06.000 --> 00:53:12.480
Yeah, he takes off from the
seven probably, and I was like,

762
00:53:12.800 --> 00:53:16.840
I look, I think like Teague
was still there. Yeah, Teague and

763
00:53:16.880 --> 00:53:25.360
I look at each other and we're
like, we can't do that. And

764
00:53:25.400 --> 00:53:30.880
then uh, this is a great
story about Tigue from taining. So we're

765
00:53:30.920 --> 00:53:37.320
playing Iowa and Biscuit Bob was there
and uh, Bob saying, there's Tigue

766
00:53:37.400 --> 00:53:43.280
was running got hit and Tie you
know how the waltzter Spartan stams close got

767
00:53:43.400 --> 00:53:47.239
hit into the wall like from the
field. He flew into the wall and

768
00:53:47.280 --> 00:53:51.039
he comes out on the sideline.
Then javan Go said, and I was

769
00:53:51.079 --> 00:53:53.000
like, te you good. And
then Tie you know how he had asthma,

770
00:53:53.159 --> 00:54:06.599
so he's shaking and I wish Javon
was in for that. Tea man,

771
00:54:06.639 --> 00:54:09.639
I ain't talking due the years he's
doing art man. He was,

772
00:54:13.880 --> 00:54:16.760
man, just look how's the field. Man? You got surprised that you

773
00:54:16.800 --> 00:54:21.840
got coachinos here. And then Mom's
I mean, yeah, it's a good

774
00:54:21.880 --> 00:54:24.280
day. It's been it's been dope. Man, I was, I was

775
00:54:24.480 --> 00:54:29.320
more. I guess I'll say more
surprised with coach because I see him,

776
00:54:29.320 --> 00:54:32.320
I see my mother. I talked
to my mom, and I knew that

777
00:54:32.440 --> 00:54:37.400
had as jau that right there.
But but Coach Enos was a huge surprise,

778
00:54:37.480 --> 00:54:38.960
man, because like I said,
I was like one of my They

779
00:54:39.000 --> 00:54:43.199
ain't no one of my. He
was my favorite coach that I've had throughout

780
00:54:43.239 --> 00:54:46.920
my entire football career. Coachinos was
my dog man like it was just and

781
00:54:46.920 --> 00:54:51.960
it was more so his personality.
Coachino is a very he's a super He's

782
00:54:52.000 --> 00:54:54.280
a very sarcastic guy. He gotta
you, gotta you gotta click with it

783
00:54:54.360 --> 00:54:59.159
to enjoy that. And I loved
it. I don't know that sarcast sarcastic,

784
00:54:59.199 --> 00:55:01.920
a hole stuff. I don't know
funny to me. I love that.

785
00:55:02.039 --> 00:55:05.840
I love having cocinos. And then
and my mom. That's that was

786
00:55:07.480 --> 00:55:12.719
I got my mom on this man. But yes, yes, yes,

787
00:55:15.880 --> 00:55:19.199
that's true. Yeah I got.
I know I got. But it's like

788
00:55:19.239 --> 00:55:21.679
I'm just sorry, like anybody one
thing. I don't talk to my mom

789
00:55:21.880 --> 00:55:23.400
alten or whatever. I don't see
her. I just saw his weekend,

790
00:55:23.719 --> 00:55:27.960
so I don't know, but that
it's it's that's very surprising. But I

791
00:55:28.000 --> 00:55:31.360
know that was ju that was a
good one, Like, yes, complete

792
00:55:31.400 --> 00:55:36.840
surprise. I definitely didn't expect cotinos
in no way, I thought my mother,

793
00:55:37.079 --> 00:55:42.440
like, I gotta let us all
celebrate you man, that's what this

794
00:55:42.519 --> 00:55:45.599
is about. And I'm greatly,
greatly appreciative of it. Man like,

795
00:55:45.679 --> 00:55:50.360
yeah, all of this, this
whole thing, like with the whole Hall

796
00:55:50.400 --> 00:55:52.039
of Fame stuff, this right here
and all the Hall of Fame. So

797
00:55:52.119 --> 00:55:55.159
it's been it's been a huge blessing
for me, man, like I said,

798
00:55:55.159 --> 00:55:58.320
a lot of the attention, I
don't know, it's been a little

799
00:55:58.360 --> 00:56:00.679
overwhelming. It's like I'm real,
I'm I like being in the background,

800
00:56:00.800 --> 00:56:05.440
like I like, I don't know, I like the chilling behind the scenes

801
00:56:05.480 --> 00:56:09.679
of like and uplifting others. And
it's it's a I don't know, it's

802
00:56:09.719 --> 00:56:14.280
wild one as actually me and I
said, Alan said, like when he

803
00:56:14.320 --> 00:56:15.239
gave me the car, he felt
like I was just trying to be humble,

804
00:56:15.280 --> 00:56:19.559
but no dead as I don't know. I mean, yeah, but

805
00:56:19.679 --> 00:56:22.519
you were always told that though I
used to always tell you all the time,

806
00:56:22.599 --> 00:56:25.000
made sure you stay humble, you
know, and you know, don't

807
00:56:25.039 --> 00:56:28.960
make your face the face of the
program. So you know, you were

808
00:56:29.039 --> 00:56:31.519
raised that way to always be humble. So you you've really been that way

809
00:56:31.559 --> 00:56:35.480
all your life because that's what we've
been telling you. Because no, no,

810
00:56:35.480 --> 00:56:37.159
no, one person is the team. It takes the team effort.

811
00:56:37.159 --> 00:56:42.639
It takes everybody working together to make
the team work, to make the dream

812
00:56:42.719 --> 00:56:45.639
work. You know, you need
you need another person. One person isn't

813
00:56:45.679 --> 00:56:50.599
the team, it's everybody. And
so that's the foundation that you know he

814
00:56:50.639 --> 00:56:52.800
was raised on. So he just
carried that going throughout his life. That's

815
00:56:52.840 --> 00:56:57.760
just who he is. Solid foundation. You can't hire the candle underneath a

816
00:56:57.760 --> 00:57:07.400
bushel. That's biblical. Here we
go, it's not you. You know

817
00:57:07.440 --> 00:57:15.480
what happened after that? Though?
This is true? Is it true?

818
00:57:15.519 --> 00:57:22.199
Every time she used to run in
there like this elbow actually had he had

819
00:57:22.480 --> 00:57:30.000
he had the arm bands on.
He's like, I appreciate so the thing

820
00:57:30.039 --> 00:57:35.400
too, like because the student section
used to say you and I didn't catch

821
00:57:35.480 --> 00:57:37.639
that. And this is one time
Jowana are sitting there, He's like,

822
00:57:37.519 --> 00:57:47.679
do you ever do you realize every
time you go in they're saying you yeah,

823
00:57:47.599 --> 00:57:52.079
So that take off one more time
the super band before we like,

824
00:57:52.320 --> 00:57:58.519
let me see where did he take
off from? Man? It was right

825
00:57:58.559 --> 00:58:07.880
there. I was a freshman man. I was young, stupid. Another

826
00:58:07.960 --> 00:58:12.760
another quick selfless story, but like
not selfless. But Javan talked about he

827
00:58:12.840 --> 00:58:15.920
likes being in the background. I
remember it was one time after practice and

828
00:58:16.199 --> 00:58:20.920
they wanted to take a picture of
him and I for like the big board

829
00:58:21.119 --> 00:58:23.400
like in front of the stadium there
and we it was some posed something in

830
00:58:23.400 --> 00:58:27.880
a game that was running and they
got the picture, but they wanted us

831
00:58:27.880 --> 00:58:30.599
to recreated because I had an anchor
injury, so I had my my shoes

832
00:58:30.679 --> 00:58:35.760
spatted so like the Nike sign wasn't
showing, so I practiced. That made

833
00:58:35.840 --> 00:58:39.480
us try to run. Remember we're
running and jumping kind of time this up

834
00:58:39.599 --> 00:58:45.400
like yeah, we're doing all these
takes and the guys like I can't get

835
00:58:45.440 --> 00:58:47.480
this. I can't can't remember want
to be up there. I was like,

836
00:58:47.480 --> 00:58:54.320
oh, man, I kind of
want to be. It's it's amazing

837
00:58:54.360 --> 00:59:00.320
to me, like stuff like that. You don't you don't see a whole

838
00:59:00.320 --> 00:59:04.119
lot of it nowadays. Man,
A lot of these, like even what

839
00:59:04.239 --> 00:59:06.920
coach was saying, a lot of
these, a lot of it, and

840
00:59:07.159 --> 00:59:10.400
not not like just here but like
other programs, like it's a lot of

841
00:59:12.400 --> 00:59:15.320
it's a lot about me. Me, Me and I get it, and

842
00:59:15.320 --> 00:59:17.079
I and I get it. Kids
want to get what they can get why

843
00:59:17.119 --> 00:59:21.000
they can get it, because that
next level I ain't promised to you.

844
00:59:21.079 --> 00:59:24.760
But I'm truly thankful for my time
in Michigan State, especially it was like

845
00:59:24.800 --> 00:59:29.239
that two thousand and seventh year,
like we were like that team that we

846
00:59:29.360 --> 00:59:31.840
had, all of us. That's
what I loved. Man. I never

847
00:59:31.920 --> 00:59:36.400
wanted it. I never I never
looked for it. I didn't want it

848
00:59:36.440 --> 00:59:38.760
all just about me. I'm the
one getting order to know, I loved

849
00:59:38.840 --> 00:59:43.119
being a part of a team.
And like Coach D's first year when he

850
00:59:43.199 --> 00:59:46.360
got there, Man mad props to
Coach D and that coaching staff and the

851
00:59:46.519 --> 00:59:52.719
things they wanted to establish, and
with the Michigan State culture and the toughness

852
00:59:52.800 --> 00:59:55.159
and the crime they put us through. Like I appreciated all of that.

853
00:59:55.360 --> 01:00:00.960
Like that. Yeah, man,
it's it's a it's a a gift from

854
01:00:00.039 --> 01:00:05.119
God that a lot I wish others
can experience. But that but also that

855
01:00:05.199 --> 01:00:08.880
I'm thankful that I was able to
experience that because now, look, we

856
01:00:09.480 --> 01:00:13.960
almost forty years old, and these
are relationships that we still have to this

857
01:00:14.039 --> 01:00:19.440
day. I'm very thankful. Yeah, and Coach D. He was a

858
01:00:19.440 --> 01:00:22.000
great coach, and so he came
from Cincinnati, and you know a lot

859
01:00:22.039 --> 01:00:25.119
of times when the other coach come
in, they bring their own stature on

860
01:00:25.320 --> 01:00:30.840
running backster on team plates teammates.
But for him to have the confidence in

861
01:00:30.920 --> 01:00:34.159
Javan that when he came up there, you know, he didn't get another

862
01:00:34.239 --> 01:00:37.159
running back. He's still stuck with
Javon because you know what the coaches come,

863
01:00:37.280 --> 01:00:39.920
they got their own players that they
were recruiting and wanting to come in

864
01:00:39.960 --> 01:00:44.480
to do this and do that.
But he knew what Javon could do and

865
01:00:44.519 --> 01:00:46.599
he always wanted him even when he
was in Cincinnati. So I think they

866
01:00:46.599 --> 01:00:51.920
were meant to team up and they
were meant to be together. I still

867
01:00:51.960 --> 01:00:55.559
still think that was prayer. That's
powerful. Absolutely, absolutely absolutely, because

868
01:00:55.760 --> 01:01:00.679
it was like there was that instant
bond with Coach D and Givin and you

869
01:01:00.679 --> 01:01:05.159
know when when Coach D first came
in there, so definitely, you know,

870
01:01:05.320 --> 01:01:07.719
Mama Ringer, thank you so much
for joining the show and giving a

871
01:01:07.760 --> 01:01:12.239
little surprise to your son. You
know, it put a smile on our

872
01:01:12.280 --> 01:01:14.800
face at least, you know,
I know, I see my MoMA tip.

873
01:01:14.840 --> 01:01:17.199
But it's good seeing you. Thanks
for joining the show and we look

874
01:01:17.199 --> 01:01:20.559
forward to you're gonna be at the
ceremony. Are you gonna be when you

875
01:01:20.599 --> 01:01:23.360
know, at the game when he's
yeah, I'll be there. Well,

876
01:01:23.440 --> 01:01:30.960
thank you guys for bting me.
I appreciate it. Thank you. Javin

877
01:01:31.280 --> 01:01:44.719
man Man I send his mom in
the background. I was like, oh

878
01:01:44.760 --> 01:01:51.960
lord, it's a locker room.
It's a locker room ing right here.

879
01:01:52.039 --> 01:01:59.599
You know, sometimes you might hear
something man, hey, rings, it

880
01:02:00.119 --> 01:02:01.920
was pleasure happening you on Man like, Look, you're gonna be a staple.

881
01:02:02.199 --> 01:02:05.199
You a guy, You got a
lot of energy and you know,

882
01:02:05.480 --> 01:02:09.840
uh, your personality humble that shines
through man that people just appreciate that.

883
01:02:10.119 --> 01:02:13.199
But make you. You know,
it looks like I said, you ain't

884
01:02:13.280 --> 01:02:15.719
hiding no candle under a bushel,
brother, So keep trying to be humble.

885
01:02:15.960 --> 01:02:20.079
We're gonna keep putting you out there
on on a pedestal, okay,

886
01:02:20.079 --> 01:02:23.679
because your crowd jewel for us.
We appreciate you. We're gonna were gonna

887
01:02:23.719 --> 01:02:27.599
turn it all the way up for
the food and have Papa Wiley ready for

888
01:02:27.679 --> 01:02:34.719
it. Yeah. Everything the group, you know, the parents are really

889
01:02:34.719 --> 01:02:38.960
close to then all the that fried
chicken. Baby, we're gonna have a

890
01:02:39.039 --> 01:02:50.599
right on deck. Brother got He's
like, yeah, thank you, no

891
01:02:50.639 --> 01:02:59.440
problem, see soon man, my
club. Javon Ringer man, you did

892
01:02:59.480 --> 01:03:02.159
at you hey, look to hey, it's gonna be an event episode to

893
01:03:02.360 --> 01:03:07.000
gonna get the awards. And then
like you're gonna still up there. I

894
01:03:07.079 --> 01:03:22.119
was like, I want to thank
God and my scene. Man, you

895
01:03:22.119 --> 01:03:24.760
can really see that having Enos on
there too, talking about you guys and

896
01:03:24.880 --> 01:03:29.360
stories. You can tell how much
he remembers those days. And it's different

897
01:03:29.519 --> 01:03:32.960
now. Obviously we see it.
Ain't bring no seedlings. Look clearly you

898
01:03:34.039 --> 01:03:40.800
like, come on feeling back.
I owe my man, I'm just playing,

899
01:03:40.840 --> 01:03:43.679
but you are no. I ain't
try to hear that voice. It's

900
01:03:43.679 --> 01:03:50.000
PTSD man. Yeah, he appreciate
you too. Hey, that man had

901
01:03:50.039 --> 01:04:02.920
a producer mind like that. That
was awesome that man executive producer. Yeah,

902
01:04:03.039 --> 01:04:10.639
hear me out straight, hear me
out like we're doing that. I

903
01:04:10.639 --> 01:04:13.880
didn't go to straight like that.
I was like, now hear me out

904
01:04:15.760 --> 01:04:19.480
and then I read it all.
He's like, oh, bringing absolutely,

905
01:04:19.519 --> 01:04:25.519
absolutely absolutely yes, sir guys.
Let's build a ball on this one.

906
01:04:25.519 --> 01:04:28.199
Man. I know that the live
chat had to be going crazy. You

907
01:04:28.199 --> 01:04:30.960
know. We obviously this is a
tape one, but we are on our

908
01:04:31.000 --> 01:04:34.039
way down to Indianapolis. We're gonna
be there tomorrow, which is Wednesday,

909
01:04:34.039 --> 01:04:38.519
the twenty six, July twenty six
is a cool day. It's Wednesday.

910
01:04:38.679 --> 01:04:41.239
We're gonna be in any laps's gonna
catch some stuff, might go live.

911
01:04:41.639 --> 01:04:45.960
We're gonna see the obviously the interview
with mel Tucker on stage there the big

912
01:04:45.000 --> 01:04:48.679
ten media days. Maybe running to
some NBC folks that are gonna be looking

913
01:04:48.719 --> 01:04:53.840
at some of our games at the
Ohio State game and Peacock you know,

914
01:04:54.119 --> 01:04:56.880
Washington game, and we're just gonna
have you know, we're gonna give you

915
01:04:56.960 --> 01:05:00.079
some behind the scenes look at what
goes on down there. All three of

916
01:05:00.159 --> 01:05:03.239
us will be there, right,
otis all right, chew you you you

917
01:05:03.440 --> 01:05:13.840
in right? Yeah, all day
and then and then we got all times

918
01:05:15.079 --> 01:05:18.159
ready to go. Let's go baby, all right, So until we see

919
01:05:18.199 --> 01:05:21.360
you guys again. I you know, So for otis Wiley ju Choo Choo,

920
01:05:21.920 --> 01:05:25.679
Jason Strayhorn. This is Sparta ms
You have a good night, God

921
01:05:25.760 --> 01:05:31.039
bless you go Green. This is
Sparta MSU as a combined presentation of play

922
01:05:31.079 --> 01:05:36.639
by Sports Properties and Michigan State Sports
Properties. The show is produced by Tony

923
01:05:36.960 --> 01:05:44.920
La Barbara Tony Gastella and Process Driven
Consulting. Additional supports provided by Brendan Duavage

924
01:05:45.360 --> 01:05:49.159
on location. Technical support provided by
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925
01:05:49.239 --> 01:05:55.280
our host Jason Strayhorn, Ju Culprit
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926
01:05:55.400 --> 01:05:58.320
up to date with all the latest. This is part of news. Please

927
01:05:58.440 --> 01:06:01.199
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928
01:06:01.239 --> 01:06:05.400
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