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Welcome to teen Girl Talk. Teen
Girl Talk. I'm Susie Coda, I

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am Frank Flamcoda, and this week
we are Madame Webb. I'll say,

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I don't why is everyone so bad? It's not the worst movie I've ever

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seen? I really don't get it. I like, I watched so I

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just saw this movie. It's like
hot off the presses for me. And

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I got home and I started watching
the Amanda the Jedi video about it,

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and she made I only still like
the ten minutes or so, and she

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made the point that she's seen way
worse stuff this year, and I kind

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of agree, like I was ever
so bad? I mean, the other

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part is I'm a like, let
me preface that with I'm a person who

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loved Morbius, loved both the Venom
movies, like I can't be trusted.

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I also know nothing about comics,
So okay, So Eddie is it?

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Bru Bank, the guy who did
the went to every Rainforest cafe in America

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Trip Back Back, Thank You.
He watched Morbius seven days in a row

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when it came out, but he
bought a ticket to everything everywhere, all

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once, which is the correct way
to see that. Yeah, And yeah,

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I like Morbius was terrible. Okay, So I think I I'm not

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that angry about this film. I
think this film could have been way better.

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I think it had potential. I
think with like another half hour or

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just like two okay, or just
like a good montage in there in a

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few places, or like two or
three things. Okay, So I can

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I can break down. I think
the different levels of people being angry.

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I mean, here's the other part. I think that the people who are

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upset about it and I are looking
for totally different stuff. Because I was

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happy there was no big CGI fight
scene. I was happy that it just

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sort of was like a human interest
story. I guess we're or less.

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But okay, tell me why the
comic book nerds are bad, because I

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don't understand. Okay. Well,
I was gonna say, well, you

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have your usual batch of misogynists.
They're just angry got that movie star women.

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Then you have the comic book fans
who are just like, oh,

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there's three really cool characters who are
being underutilized. Then you have but this

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is like a pre origin story,
isn't it. Yeah, But like the

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characters are all like they've been around
for a while, and I think this

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isn't starting at the point where they've
been around. They're not even superheroes yet.

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Well that's my I mean, that's
kind of my main complaints. They

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don't even become superheroes by the end. I'm like, okay, cool,

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So they'll get into the costume soon, Okay, so Web becomes this superhero.

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Yeah, and what you see at
the end is kind of all Madam

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Webb does in comics. You just
kind of it's fine. I don't really

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need her to do more. I
mean, so I saw stills from the

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comic book that she's supposed to be
elderly, but you know, I thought

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it was fine. Of I mean, it's I don't know, I guess

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I'm just sort of okay. The
other part is that I am reading a

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book about the nineteen eighty four Dune
and how everyone was really anticipating this film

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coming out, but then the press
around it was so negative that they went

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over budget, that they weren't staying
true to the text, and it was

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basically dead in the water. But
overseas it did really well, and it

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actually did well by word of mouth, and they tracked that through that there

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was an uptick the longer it was
in theaters, versus like when a movie

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is advertised a lot and gets the
first big rushes within the two three weeks

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and then sort of peters out.
I am not applying this to, you

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know, nineteen eighty four dude,
but I sort of wonder if Madame Webb

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is just suffering. Like everyone keeps
saying like, well, we knew this

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was a stinker, and I'm like, how, you know, Like I

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I would rather watch this than Top
Gun Maverick any day, any day.

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I mean, its inexplicable to me
that everyone I mentioned Top Gun Maverick too,

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was like, that's a pretty good
movie, and I was like,

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what are you talking about? Did
we watch the same bill? Yeah,

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Like, okay, I've never seen
Top Gun Maverick. I saw the original

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Top Gun. I refereed a drinking
game for the original Top Gun. But

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like, you know, it's I
think it's just like a collection of just

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like it's just easy to crap on
Sony when they're made. When like because

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this movie was made so that they
could retain the rights to Spider Man and

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they could keep getting that Marvel money, I think there were easier movies to

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make. I think that totally.
Everyone really tried. They had three different

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filming locations. They filmed in Massachusetts, they filmed in New York, and

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they filmed in Quebec. And you
know, I get that that's like you

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have like first but I don't remember
what they called them, but basically like

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first and secondary cruise, first unit, I think, yeah, second unit.

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But there were some strange decisions in
this. I really am curious about

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why the villain ez he Heel so
many of his lines were dubbed over and

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it seems like he was more or
less just saying the same thing. I

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don't know why that happened. Some
of Dakota Johnson plays Madame Webb, some

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of her lions were dubbed over and
I didn't think. I'm not sure what

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could have been there before that would
have made the movie more confusing. So

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I mean, like, let's get
into it. But if this is anything

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like Morbius, where different stuff is
going to come out the longer people are

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talking about this film, I'm here
for it, like I want to know

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what was going on. I it
really does feel like Ezekiel Simms is in

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like an entirely different movie than the
rest of the cast like that actor was

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like, I don't want to be
in scenes with anyone else. So just

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like film me and my Penhouse talking
to one of the women from the show

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Girls, like Shoshauna I think she
plays. And how this movie takes place

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six months after nine to eleven and
the NSA plays a huge part in this

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and nobody and it's set in New
York and nobody mentioned nine to eleven.

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There's no sign of it. It's
two years. It's like a year and

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a half. Yeah, I was
gonna say, like, I like,

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wow, I really miss that.
No, it's place in two thousand and

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three, and I'm saying, like, I'm guessing springtime because of the way

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everyone's stressed. So the NSA is
the lynchpin of how he's able to track

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the three future webbies. What is
their little band called? Their little band

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of Spiders spider women? I love
it. Okay, So that's how Ezekiel

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tracks him. He's like, hey, okay, we'll get there. But

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there's so much that this movie's like, don't worry about it. You're thinking

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too much. Don't worry about it. But it's also confounding, which I

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mean, I mean, this is
just the problem with Marvel like that.

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Now, like it's very confounding.
Which universe? I think this might be

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an entirely other universe because Peter Parker
is just being born, and I don't

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think that Peter Parker played by Tom
Holland is fourteen and like all his movies,

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So this might be a bully different
Peter Parker. And what seen Peter

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Parker? The baby? What do
you mean the baby? I've said through

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all these credits, Frank, there
was no after credits. Is the baby

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that's that Emma Roberts is giving birth
to? Is Peter Parker? Oh my

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gosh, Adam Scott is Ben Parker
some somewhere down the line you go and

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get shot your your headphones are cutting
out. I can't hear you. I

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was I'm sorry. I was covering
my face and shame because when you find

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out what I thought was actually happening. I thought that Adam Scott was having

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an affair with Mary, and that's
why everyone was acting so weird about Peter.

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No, what's her Richard? About
Richard being overseas and that's why,

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Oh my gosh, I was like, this is like a little bit dark

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because adultery never really enters the Marvel
universe except for that weird thing where oh

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gosh, Cyclops was cheating with that
woman in his mind palace or whatever.

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Yes, so there's a lot of
adultery. Okay, but not in the

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movies. Yeah, not in the
movies, but the I was like,

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oh wow, I like and the
whole weird thing, Oh my gosh.

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And that's why he didn't say aunt
name when he's talking to Madame Webb slash

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Cassie and she's like, oh,
you met the one and he's like yeah,

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and I was like, yeah,
but what's her name? So I

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was like, oh my god,
it's Mary. Him and Mary are in

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love. I'm a ding dong,
like, I'm so sorry. Yes,

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you're such a ding dong unable to
follow anything in this movie. We're all

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just being so cool about the fact
that Mary Parker is Emma Roberts and she's

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gonna give birth to Peter Parker.
I think I had no idea. Did

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they say their last names at any
point? Yeah, like they're kinds of

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like, oh, look, it's
Ben Parker, Come on down, Frank.

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I asked me, how often I
think about Uncle Ben when I'm not

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actively talking to you? About Uncle
Ben. So I'm gonna say it's rightly

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negative four percent of your day.
Yes, anti thinking about Uncle Ben.

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I thought it was gonna be a
whole thing. We're like Ben was so

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conflicted because he shouldn't be in love
with his brother's wife, but his brother's

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like a bad husband, and then
his brother like dies over how do Peter

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his parents really die? Oh it's
changed so many times, Like at a

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certain point they get a car accident, then they're also secret agents. It's

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a whole thing. Oh my gosh. So that okay, everything makes a

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little worse sense to me now.
I feel like if people actually do like

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the comics, they're like, oh, I see all the pieces and I'm

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just like, oh, man Scott's
a bad guy. I mean he's actually

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the best guy. Yeah, No, I'm just thinking about him playing Oh

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what's his name? Is his name? Ben on Parks and rec Yes,

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yeah, Ben, I thought him. I was like, Oh, that's

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funny. Somebody takes me so sad
that they're definitely not going to make a

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sequel to this movie. I'm never
going to get to see old man Adam

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Scott not be married to his sister
in law. We'll never get to know

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who's going to be cast as may
I mean yes, presumably it would be

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Maursa's homey wha, what whoa.
Once again, it's confounding unless Tom Holland

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is fourteen years old in Infinity War, he's like fresh out of middle school.

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It doesn't make sense that that's the
normal Marvel Cinematic universe. Apparently canonically

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that that Spider Man was born in
two thousand and one, so he's already

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two years old by the time this. Yeah, there's a there's a fan

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theory the way people are mad.
There's a fan theory that in Iron Man

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two, see if you remember anything
about that film, probably not, where

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like he's fight Like he's at the
Star Expo. He's fighting all these drones

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and there's a little kid wearing an
Iron Man mask and like one of the

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drones stops and it's like, oh
cool, it's tiny iron Man. I'm

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gonna kill this kid, And all
of a sudden, Iron Man shows up

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and blows him to hell, bose
the drone to hell, and goes thanks

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kid and flies away. I got
the child because I definitely thought in that

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moment, iron Man's like, this
little kid's going to help. But no,

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that like Marvel is like, yeah, no, this is a confirmed

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theory that that's Peter Parker, like
he's as cute. He's at the Star

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Expo and you know. But so
now I'm obsessed with seeing Adam Scott and

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Mari at Marisa Tome I think is
like roughly maybe fifteen years older than Adam

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Scott, but seeing them together,
but can you tell go ahead? I

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was gonna just say, just make
it, just make Amy Poehler at me,

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no, because it has to be
to Marissa to may from uh what

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you we call it? Oh god, Like now that I think about it,

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that is a power couple, like
yes, yeah, Dyll who's my

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fact checker in the room, says
she's only nine years older than him.

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This because I was watching like after
this, I was like Adam Scott.

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I watched the Adam Scott clip where
sixty years old toy. I think,

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so, oh my god, is
she drinking? How does she look that

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good? It should be illegal to
look that good? Okay, sorry,

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Frank, go ahead. I was
I kept being like, I'm doing them

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Maath wrong. There's no way she's
sixty years old. So everyone kept being

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like she's not the right age,
but she kind of is the right age.

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She just looks crazy hot. So
in not that older people can't be

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hot. It's just Marisa's Tomey looks
younger than me, like she is killing

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it. But everyone's like, oh, I want my Auntie old. It's

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like, well, she is Granma. She could be a grandma like comic

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book. You know, I don't
see her being Granny Surfer or whatever,

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Golden Granny. For the life of
me, I will never remember Golden Granny.

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Why should you like? The golden
Granny is the the boulder that is

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attached to my back that I must
carry with me. I will not cast

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that boulder upon you and make you
remember that for a short time, Aunt

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May was glad as Harold, serving
up planets like they were like milk and

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cookies I need. I like with
this comic book stuff, it just does

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not stick so I which is again
I will say with me watching this movie,

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it's I basically watched it like it
was any drama. It just happened

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to be that there was a little
bit of magical realism in there. And

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Madam Webb's mom I believe is Donna
from Holt and Cash fire, which is

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important. It's important to you,
and I respect that. Yeah, so

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I'm this is not the most egregious
superhero movie I've ever seen, and it's

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none like it's also her I was
actually right, unlike all the other times

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where I've said something have been very
wrong, deeply wrong. So, like

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Madam Webb, for the longest time, Spider Man was strictly like a science

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based character, Like it was just
like, oh, science gave him powers.

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And then like in the late eight
nineties mid beginning of aughts, they

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just like, no, there's a
mystical element to him, and we're just

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gonna throw it out there and there's
this hole and then and like Ezekiel and

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Madam Webb all get kind of tied
into that. Ezekiel kind of like Ezekiel

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did kind of what's in the comic
or what's in the movies. He went

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down to South America, met with
the tribe of the Spider and they were

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like, we'll give you these powers, but you're gonna have to like we're

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gonna kill you like fifty years down
the line. And he's like, all

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right, cool, well you will
kill a spie. We have to kill

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a Spider person. Fifty years down
the line. So he tries to bring

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Peter Parker down to South America and
sacrifice him, and like their whole Spider

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say, this thing goes off,
and Ezekiel sees just how selfish he's been

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the entire time, and how selfless
Peter's been, And so Ezekiel sacrifices himself

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instead of Peter because he just like
sees like Peter's like, yeah, I'm

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basically living out of a box.
Still gotta protect people, Still gotta protict

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the people of New York who hate
me. So oh, by the bye,

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uh what is her name? The
girl on the skateboard, Oh,

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Maddie, Maddie. I wanted to
go over Eddie, and I was like,

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that's not right a certain part of
this part of this movie, Maddie

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says, we can go talk to
my uncle Jonah. Oh no, oh

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yes, And then and then I
was so I just realized. I almost

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like shut my computer because I was
like, no, this was over.

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So we need to start talking about
the plot because they crammed a lot of

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stuff into two hours. It's sorry, he doesn't like that's the niece of

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j. J. Jameson. No, that's the end. Of tea girl

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talking. That's when we end.
After eight years, I refuse to believe.

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So now I need to ask questions
about Jay Jona Jamison. Does he

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also hate the Spider Women. He
only hates Spider Man. He hates Spider

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Man. Okay, so his little
done tact, Frank j Jonah Jamison does

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not like Spider Man. These deep
cuts. So j Jonah Jamison is very

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complicated politically in the comics when he
comes to superheroes. He likes the X

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Men. He's like all about X
Men, He's all about mutant rights.

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He was all about civil rights.
That's so strange that he can understand the

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X Men but hates Spider Man.
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their fault, like they you know, it's just the way they're born like

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that. You what are you gonna
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that Spider Man got his powers and
you know, like he's he's some ton't

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like this, like just that I
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Somebody who did wasn't born a fit, but came through it in various

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means. So like Captain America considered
a mutate, like something happened to him

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super soldier formula turned him into a
super strong guy. He's a mutant,

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but he's not because the guy made
Wolverine. Well, Wolverine's mutation was his

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healing factor and his bone claws.
Oh okay, so the adamantium that was

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later, that was later, Okay, that that's the whole reason why they

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did that to him is because he
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they fuck up Deadpool constantly, like
because like he can live through it.

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Is that why he and Spider Man
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Yeah, they were both part of
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Wolverine that apocalypse, the big blue
scary bad guy. You the X Men

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got reborn as a child and yeah, X Force, the like Black Ops

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X Men team killed him, and
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no, I'm not killing a kid, and like we're just okay with this,

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Go fuck yourself, I'm out,
and Deadpool left. You know all

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the time he doesn't kill kids.
Okay, fine, But the Deadpool in

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the comics has is a much gentler
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there's a there's a whole comic where
this uh like, there's a whole comic

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where like he goes after a predatory
therapist and he's just like, yeah,

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yeah, so this girl wrote me
a nice little letter, fingering you,

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doc, and then Deadpoole cuts him
in half. Yeah, like Deadpools,

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it's dark. His his stories get
dark like it just it happens unfortunately.

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But okay, so and Madam Webb
just basically it was just like Spider Man,

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you have a destiny, that kind
of thing she got. She just

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kind of leads him through things.
So but I guess she'll be leading the

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three Spider Women who are Sidney Sweeney's
character is called a Rackney. Why did

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they put that weg on her?
I don't know. Uh, Anya Sophia

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corazon Is. I think her name
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then you have Mattie Franklin, who
is just Spider Woman. Okay, so

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okay, so please see her in
the Spider Verse movies. Yeah, okay,

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I remembered her mechanical spidery legs.
Yeah, well I think she's the

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one. I think she's the one
the bike Oh okay, who had mechanical

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spidery legs. A lot of people. Did I think she was voiced by

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Ray in the movie. You're oh
terrible. There, I settled it.

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Yeah. So okay, So we
start in Peru. Everybody's looking for the

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Spider. Okay, everybody frank means
one woman and then a guy who's secretly

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looking for it. That one woman
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Nope, I am wrong. It
was just Drew was it was just Drew?

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Not what do we call it?
Maddy Franklin and across the Spider verse,

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I'm sorry, what are you talking
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is just Drew, not Maddy Franklin. I think you were right. You

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know I was wrong, Okay,
I'm sorry. I was like, it

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just took me in the middle.
I was like, oh, okay,

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I don't know what's going on.
Yeah, so okay. So, uh,

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Ezekiel is like hanging out with her. She finds the Spider and like

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he just kills everyone and he ends
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the Spider. She's like, no, I've been looking for this forever.

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And he ends up shooting her and
she's very pregnant. Everybody else and then

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he tries to wrestle it away from
her, and we, as the viewer,

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like just giving the spider. Later
we'll come to find out why she

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doesn't want to give him the spider. But he accidentally shoots her and then

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runs away like a coward. Yeah. And then the Spider Tribe shows up

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and they're basically just like, hey, we're just Spider Man normally. They

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like. They take her to a
cave. It's full of the spider she

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was looking for. She's like,
this could have saved me a lot of

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time. Guys, what the fuck
they have yet? Oh no, she's

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been out at this point. Oh
yeah, well you've been shot. They

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have the spiders bite her. She
gives birth to Cassie very easily. First

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we get a couple of shots of
a fake baby before it turns into a

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real baby. Yeah, and they're
like, she has a great destiny awaiting

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her. And then somehow she gets
back to the baby gets back to America.

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I don't know who is escorting this
baby or involving it in the foster

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care system, but it happens,
like you know, and she travels with

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a suitcase of memories. Yes,
this movie is basically White Oleander kind of

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all back to the very Sad movie. I was gonna say she didn't like

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Ingrid, her mom didn't like shoot
a guy, or no, her mom

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did shoot a guy. Cassie's mom
didn't shoot a guy. She got shot.

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I got shot, Richard got shot. Yeah. Well, now she's

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an EMT running around with Ben Parker
Cassie not her mom. Yeah, and

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I don't think they've ever explained like
there's always been just varying. Let me,

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he never lasts long enough for you
to find out what his job is

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there, so like, but it
makes perfect sense that he would be EMT

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like that from like, you know, I'm gonna say, like, yeah,

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like I'm gonna point in things I
like about this move. It's like

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being so negative. I like that
he's an EMT. That makes perfect sense

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to me. It would explain him, like you know, driving Peter to

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be like better and kinder to people
and all that jazz. Okay. So

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I also assumed that Cassie and Ben
had dated at some point. Yeah,

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I think they kind of. I
think they hint up that very strongly.

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Okay, So this is that those
signals I read right, unlike the signals

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I thought I was getting that Ben
and Mary were having an affair. Yes,

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Ben and Cassie are trying to much
like the Fray would say, they're

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trying to save a life. They
nearly run They nearly run over Maddy Franklin,

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who flips them off, and Cassie, which is really bad for Yeah,

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Like Cassie's like, who flips off
an ambulance? I have to agree,

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Cassie, who would flip off an
ambulance? They get the person to

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the hospital, they save them.
It turns out it's Sidney Sweeney with her

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characters name Jessica, Juliett, Cornwalls
Mo stepmom and she uh her little brother

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gives Cassie a drawing and Cassie's like, what do I do with this?

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And this is the point where I
Texas has Cassie existed in the world before?

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I mean, so, there are
so many strange decisions in this film.

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In this version of New York,
there is hardly ever traffic. The

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only traffic incurred is plot traffic,
like we need there to be a car

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back up here, but it's not
even like a real backup. It's not

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like like Cassie is driving through the
streets of New York between fifty to sixty

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miles per hour at all time,
which is not a thing that happens.

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And for parts of it, they
are in Queens and she's still flying around

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like there's just no traffic. There's
like five other people in all, all

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five of the Burroughs, So like
that was a little strange. And when

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Ben tells her to take the drawing
and thank the kid, and she's very

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clearly saying, in front of this
child, I like, what am I

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supposed to do with this drawing you
just handed me? It's strange. Kathy

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isn't a strange duck, honestly,
And I think that if it's the character

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really well, it makes sense.
I think that there are other films where

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like characters that have had a past
like hers, like end upbringing in foster

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care or like the death of a
parent, don't fare so well. And

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the way that they show that the
character is disaffected is there a jerk.

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Cassie just seems very guarded. And
I'm gonna give a lot of credits to

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Dakota Fanning. Not Dakota Fanning,
Dakota Johnson. Dakota Fanning's not in this

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film. I'm going to give a
lot of credits to Dakota Johnson because I've

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found her character endearing rather than grating. I think that she was brusque,

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but I think that it's obvious that
she has a lot of difficulty with vulnerability.

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She has difficulty trusting and when and
we see that, like maybe she

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doesn't really understand social cues entirely,
because when Ben is like, come on,

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you gotta come to the baby shower. It's important, you gotta do

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this, and we find out later
it's you know, these are this baby

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shower is made up of the closest
people in her life, and she just

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does not want to go. And
when she does, it becomes very clear

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to us that she doesn't really possess
any social grace and it's very hard for

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her, I guess, to more
or less fake it. So I think

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that's honestly more interesting to me as
a character than if she was like,

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oh my god, I'm just so
quirky and awkward. But she just flies

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through every kind of social setting and
is endeared to everyone like no one ever

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like kind of talks about obviously,
Dakota Johnson is like movie star pretty right,

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Like she led a franchise in Foam
about how she was just so irresistible.

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But this character is i mean hard
to love, you know, for

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obvious reasons. It's it's been really
difficult for her. Yeah, like she

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I'm not saying this unkindly. She's
a mess of a person. And it's

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just like you know, but not
in like I'm going to like she she's

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trying her best with like she's like, look, I just I've been moving

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around, like I can't get settled, I can't relax, I have to

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constantly be on the move. And
yeah, and I think very much like

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most introverts, she cares for the
people that she trusts, the people she

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does care about, like like Ben, she when she cares about them,

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like you know, like this person
gets me, this person uder stands me.

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But then like other people, it's
just like I don't know, I'm

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just I'm giving up on this.
I'm just gonna well. When she goes

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to the party and everyone is recollecting, you know, memories of their mother,

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and she tells the story of her
mother dying, and she's obviously conflicted

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about her mother's death because her mother
was working up and to the point that

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she gave birth and because she is
like deep in the wilderness of Peru.

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She wasn't able to get the kind
of medical treatment, and I mean,

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doesn't that speak to the fact that
this is what Cassie chose for her life,

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was, you know, providing emergency
medical treatment for people. And I

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mean I feel like that was very
heavily telegraphed to us by her fixation on

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uh oh gosh, I want to
call it the heimlike and that's not what

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it is on CPR, and you
know the rest everyone else is like very

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kind of put off by her saying, you know, my mother died.

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I didn't know her. Uh,
you know, I'm fine because she doesn't.

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She doesn't know. She can't have
those conversations because they hurt too much.

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So I think that I definitely think
that there could have been a little

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more nuance. But that's not really
what comic book movies are known for,

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like, you know, deep symbolism
and nuance and you know, the sliding

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doors of emotions that come with freak
and loss. That's not like everyone's like

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I am sad my mom died.
I am sad uncle Ben died. It's

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you know, it's usually more expressive, like like, you know, you

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bring up a good point and that
actually ties into why she would like put

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so much on the line for these
three random girls, you know, because

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like she sees it in her head, these girls are going to be murdered

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brutally. I can save them.
I have no reason to help them.

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I just like, this is just
what I do. Like Cassandra Webb saves

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people, this is what I do. She leaves a couple of times.

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Yeah, well she tried. Well, I think like a lot of I

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think her leaving is very much just
like, well, the one time she

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does leave, but like it's to
figure things out out that happened in a

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vision. Oh okay, you're talking
about the woods time, not the motel

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time. I'm talking about when she
leaves them with Ben. Okay, so

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that's the third time she leaves them. She actually leaves them three times.

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The first time is right, so
like let's get there, Okay. So

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well, I just I do want
to talk about the Bonker scene where Ezekiel.

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Okay, this part, I understand
Ezekiel like is a very attractive man

406
00:37:30.440 --> 00:37:36.519
and this woman comes home with him
and then he like they're in the opera.

407
00:37:36.880 --> 00:37:39.280
Yeah, I mean, great places
to do someone the opera. But

408
00:37:39.360 --> 00:37:43.840
yeah, so they go home from
the opera. Then they're having pillow talk,

409
00:37:44.199 --> 00:37:47.039
like he's having Anakin Skywalker esque pillow
talk where he's like, like,

410
00:37:47.159 --> 00:37:52.320
keep having these dreams. Well,
I'm killed by these three girls. Why

411
00:37:52.599 --> 00:38:00.360
didn't that woman leaven't a man woke
up from a dead sleep and told me

412
00:38:00.360 --> 00:38:04.679
I get murdered by these girls.
I'm gonna seek them out. I'm gonna

413
00:38:04.800 --> 00:38:07.519
murder them. I I don't even
care what I'm wearing. It that for

414
00:38:07.840 --> 00:38:13.079
fait, first of all, doesn't
matter. Second, well, why is

415
00:38:13.119 --> 00:38:15.840
this woman sleeping over this total rando's
house? Like I get that, She's

416
00:38:15.880 --> 00:38:20.800
like, oh, fancy apartment.
Like probably not a serial killer hat American

417
00:38:20.880 --> 00:38:25.920
psycho had come out already. We
know do ites with apartments like that more

418
00:38:27.079 --> 00:38:30.800
likely to murder you? I said
it here now And like so she's lying

419
00:38:30.800 --> 00:38:32.719
in bed next to him and she's
like, oh, do you have a

420
00:38:32.760 --> 00:38:37.519
back dream And he's like, no, it's a vision. I see how

421
00:38:37.559 --> 00:38:40.039
I die. I'm definitely gonna murder
these girls. And she's like, oh

422
00:38:40.360 --> 00:38:45.320
are you sure? Though, stop
skip follow ups, get out of there.

423
00:38:45.599 --> 00:38:52.079
There's a point where I thought she
was gonna like shift to run away,

424
00:38:52.360 --> 00:38:55.519
and instead she reached it to her
purse for what I thought was a

425
00:38:55.599 --> 00:38:59.679
gun, but I think actually was
like her ide bed. Did she have

426
00:38:59.760 --> 00:39:04.880
a gun? I don't remember her
having a gun. Oh. And the

427
00:39:06.320 --> 00:39:10.320
craziest part of any of this is
he targeted her because she's in the NSSAY,

428
00:39:10.880 --> 00:39:17.599
meaning she has training. She is
supposed to have both training and the

429
00:39:17.679 --> 00:39:22.199
instincts to be like this seems.
And I'm not blaming the victim. I

430
00:39:22.199 --> 00:39:29.719
am just wondering. Is Zechiel sims
like that much of a show stopper that

431
00:39:29.840 --> 00:39:31.199
she was like, Yeah, I'll
just chill here while this weirdo tells me

432
00:39:31.239 --> 00:39:36.199
about his murder tree. Like,
okay, see, I would have left

433
00:39:36.239 --> 00:39:38.840
when I saw this spider tree in
the middle of his apartment. Now that's

434
00:39:38.880 --> 00:39:42.599
too juggy. You're being too judgy. Spider tree. Fine, it's not

435
00:39:42.679 --> 00:39:45.760
like he's letting the spiders walk all
over him. They're in like a spider

436
00:39:45.920 --> 00:39:49.800
enclosure thing. I'd be like,
Oh, you're into Damien her start.

437
00:39:49.880 --> 00:39:53.440
That's cool. You're even richer than
I thought you were. I guess I'd

438
00:39:53.480 --> 00:39:57.239
be like, oh, you have
a pet. Cool, I have cats,

439
00:39:57.360 --> 00:40:01.960
you have spider tree. But when
they start talking about planning murder.

440
00:40:02.679 --> 00:40:07.199
You gotta leave, You gotta put
your shoes on and walk your ass out

441
00:40:07.239 --> 00:40:10.599
of this Upper West Side apartment and
just say, you know, sometimes we

442
00:40:10.639 --> 00:40:15.519
make mistakes. She's like, oh, now I have to like because like

443
00:40:17.400 --> 00:40:21.239
America is at peak paranoia back then. She's like, now I had to

444
00:40:21.280 --> 00:40:24.280
call this in and it's gonna be
so much paperwork. Why can't I just

445
00:40:24.360 --> 00:40:28.360
meet in? What case is she
calling this in? Oh? Hello,

446
00:40:28.760 --> 00:40:31.280
work at the NSA. I slept
with the guy who turned out to be

447
00:40:31.320 --> 00:40:37.960
a psycho. Like, no,
she would just surveil him illegally. That's

448
00:40:37.000 --> 00:40:42.000
what they were doing. That was
the bread and butter, Thank you,

449
00:40:42.079 --> 00:40:46.320
Georg. Joey Bush wasn't illegal,
Uh I should have been. No,

450
00:40:46.639 --> 00:40:53.119
they were. They got in trouble. That's why the whole Snowden thing,

451
00:40:55.039 --> 00:41:01.000
it's well documented, so at it. By two thousand and three it wasn't

452
00:41:01.000 --> 00:41:06.599
though, So she just like probably
bike a file on her desktop. Weird

453
00:41:06.639 --> 00:41:08.880
know. I slept with with the
spider tree that has the murder dreams.

454
00:41:10.119 --> 00:41:15.159
Keep an eye on him, put
him on the list. Can't travel without

455
00:41:15.239 --> 00:41:22.440
TSA flipping all his uh what should
call it luggage? She was like around

456
00:41:22.440 --> 00:41:25.000
the water cool yes, it happened
again. Spider Tree cycle path. I

457
00:41:25.239 --> 00:41:28.599
know how to pick them. I
know how to pick them. Uh.

458
00:41:29.280 --> 00:41:32.960
Okay, in your scenario, not
only is she calling work to tell them

459
00:41:34.000 --> 00:41:39.079
that she slept with the psycho,
she said openly discussing it at the office

460
00:41:39.119 --> 00:41:46.199
water cooler. Can't we just you
could really really keep this stuff to yourself,

461
00:41:46.880 --> 00:41:51.000
Debbie? Can't we just talk about
twenty four? Can't we just talk

462
00:41:51.000 --> 00:41:53.800
about one house empty is up?
Too? Why is it every week you

463
00:41:53.920 --> 00:41:58.480
come into another story, but how
you slept with a super hot dude who

464
00:41:58.519 --> 00:42:02.199
had a spider tree and then you
playing for murders. They're like, there's

465
00:42:02.239 --> 00:42:06.400
this new show, it's the office. Get it? Like us, we're

466
00:42:06.400 --> 00:42:12.079
in an office. Stop talking about
Spider tree guy at this point, like

467
00:42:12.199 --> 00:42:16.639
you haven't stopped any possible threats outside
of the man you slept with. It's

468
00:42:16.840 --> 00:42:22.119
just your You create a job for
yourself just dating Spider tree man and having

469
00:42:22.119 --> 00:42:28.079
to report on the Okay, now
I've come full circle. Debbie's a genius,

470
00:42:29.320 --> 00:42:35.519
best of all worlds. The problem
was that she paused to hear about

471
00:42:35.519 --> 00:42:39.559
the murder dream. I don't care
how curious curios you are. Curious you

472
00:42:39.639 --> 00:42:44.719
are you gotta keep it pushing?
Can't hear about you, can't hear about

473
00:42:44.760 --> 00:42:49.559
murder dreams, can't do it so
well? He takes He somehow uses her

474
00:42:49.599 --> 00:42:58.039
badge to get like horrible savance technology
that matches up faces. He gets into

475
00:42:58.079 --> 00:43:01.800
the hall. Reminded me of your
remember in the Batman movie where Morgan Freeman's

476
00:43:01.880 --> 00:43:07.239
like, hey, I made you
a thing where it like bunches all the

477
00:43:07.280 --> 00:43:14.559
cell phones. Yeah, it seemed
like that. And what made me curious

478
00:43:14.639 --> 00:43:16.760
is like, Okay, so he's
murdered this woman. He poisoned her in

479
00:43:16.800 --> 00:43:22.360
his house. She works for the
NSA. They weren't able to trace her

480
00:43:22.400 --> 00:43:31.639
cell phone, her last known location, trace her through any of like cameras.

481
00:43:31.719 --> 00:43:35.519
He lives in like a super fancy
building. You have to assume that

482
00:43:35.559 --> 00:43:40.719
there are security cameras. A doorman. She's just been gone for days and

483
00:43:40.760 --> 00:43:45.400
no one's like, oh hey,
Debbie's not here telling us her weird stories

484
00:43:45.119 --> 00:43:52.320
and her like security clearance is on
her badge, a thing that she wears

485
00:43:52.320 --> 00:43:55.199
on her body every day at work. It makes no sense. And also

486
00:43:55.400 --> 00:43:59.880
it's not as if, like you
know, New York was under heavy surveill

487
00:44:00.199 --> 00:44:07.800
during Matt Todds because she works for
the NSA, Like it's it makes no

488
00:44:07.880 --> 00:44:12.960
sense that Ezekiel Sims has not been
pursued. Also, is he invisible?

489
00:44:13.199 --> 00:44:17.519
Because there are points where Ezekiel Sims
shows up in situations and then the Spider

490
00:44:17.559 --> 00:44:23.000
women say, oh, they didn't
see him, and like how because then

491
00:44:23.159 --> 00:44:28.000
later everybody sees him and it's horrified
and they're like, oh, there's a

492
00:44:28.000 --> 00:44:30.519
guy crawling on the ceiling. Oh
there's a guy kicking people in the torso

493
00:44:30.599 --> 00:44:37.519
all over the place. Is Ezekiel
Sims selectively invisible? I mean that was

494
00:44:37.559 --> 00:44:42.679
one of Miles Morales's powers. I
don't know. It is confounding. I

495
00:44:42.679 --> 00:44:45.840
think that the like two drafts of
this film popped up and they just like

496
00:44:45.880 --> 00:44:53.239
put him together. Who cares?
But my big so Ezekiel sees like halt

497
00:44:53.280 --> 00:44:59.559
and catch fire lady. Okay,
so we're still in the flashback, Frank

498
00:44:59.599 --> 00:45:04.960
stalking the flashback. Okay, So
Cassie is starting to see visions of like

499
00:45:05.039 --> 00:45:10.360
the near future. She Frank's not
talking about the flashback anymore. Well,

500
00:45:10.719 --> 00:45:15.079
we're done with Debbie. We're done
with Debbie in her job creating. Yeah,

501
00:45:15.119 --> 00:45:20.320
but you mentioned Okay, Cassandra and
then you're like, okay, but

502
00:45:20.440 --> 00:45:24.239
now as Zekiel's in the present,
Okay, well he has a dream and

503
00:45:24.360 --> 00:45:28.639
like this is like the best two
or three minutes of the movie where we

504
00:45:28.639 --> 00:45:31.639
get to see the Spider girls just
kicking the me the Spider women kicking the

505
00:45:31.639 --> 00:45:37.360
ever living shit out of Ezekiel wearing
their cool costumes. It lasts for like

506
00:45:37.400 --> 00:45:42.079
maybe thirty seconds, and I was
bummed when it ended. So he's like,

507
00:45:42.840 --> 00:45:49.119
you're a Halt and catch Fire lady, take this or Shoshana. Yeah,

508
00:45:49.159 --> 00:45:52.719
she's not Halt and catch Fire.
She's from Girls. Okay, She's

509
00:45:52.840 --> 00:45:58.920
like she's unnamed in this film.
She's just like Hacker and she seems to

510
00:45:59.320 --> 00:46:02.199
not have working hours. She's just
at that chair all of the time.

511
00:46:02.719 --> 00:46:07.199
I'm sure he's paying her like enough
to be at that chair all the time.

512
00:46:07.280 --> 00:46:12.400
What about bathroom breaks? What about
meals? What about sleep? Oh

513
00:46:12.519 --> 00:46:22.639
god? Yeah, so osha violation. Jill Sims is not only a murderer

514
00:46:22.360 --> 00:46:29.000
and a bad guy, he is
a terrible employer. Yeah, so he

515
00:46:29.400 --> 00:46:34.760
says, if you've noticed, I
will pay you handsomely, not that she

516
00:46:34.840 --> 00:46:40.480
has been paid hands on it.
Yeah, Debbie should have given her some

517
00:46:40.480 --> 00:46:45.320
some some tips on the job market, like, hey, she wasn't there.

518
00:46:45.880 --> 00:46:52.159
Can you imagine being this woman he
met at the opera and then she

519
00:46:52.239 --> 00:46:53.199
goes home with him and it's like, oh, is this your daughter?

520
00:46:53.239 --> 00:46:55.800
Oh no, that's just my hacker. She's just in that seat all the

521
00:46:55.840 --> 00:46:59.480
time. But he wouldn't have needed
a hacker at that point because he didn't

522
00:46:59.519 --> 00:47:04.000
have Debbie. You know, Badge, that's my hacker next to my Spider

523
00:47:04.039 --> 00:47:08.599
Tree. Yeah, every comes with
one. Joshana is like, I hate

524
00:47:08.599 --> 00:47:15.440
the Spider Tree so much. So
they're like, if they pop in grend

525
00:47:15.440 --> 00:47:17.400
Central Station, we'll find them.
Guess what all three women end of en

526
00:47:17.400 --> 00:47:23.480
Grand Central Station and he heads off
there. He's running around barefoot. At

527
00:47:23.599 --> 00:47:29.039
certain points, he's in and out
of his vaguely Spider Man looking costume that's

528
00:47:29.079 --> 00:47:31.239
all black, Cassie, I think
it's pretty sick. I like it.

529
00:47:31.320 --> 00:47:35.159
I like it better than the Venom
costume. There I said it, Well,

530
00:47:35.199 --> 00:47:38.360
my favorite part about the Spiderman costume
is top part Spider Man, bottom

531
00:47:38.400 --> 00:47:47.320
part slacks. No, it's the
whole thing is tight. It's tight as

532
00:47:47.320 --> 00:47:53.400
hell. Yeah, Like they don't
show the bottom a lot, but it's

533
00:47:54.679 --> 00:48:00.920
easy everything, So which I think
they had to cut around because there reports

534
00:48:00.920 --> 00:48:06.400
where like, whoa wait, there's
definitely parts where he's wearing slacks. Frank,

535
00:48:06.559 --> 00:48:09.960
you mean that up there is God? Well, okay, maybe you

536
00:48:10.000 --> 00:48:15.000
know I'm looking through the things thing. I'm wrong, Okay. F watched

537
00:48:15.000 --> 00:48:21.199
the entirely movie. Frank watched the
like please be kind of rewind version where

538
00:48:21.320 --> 00:48:24.960
like some dudes just sweed this in
their basement. He's like, it was

539
00:48:25.159 --> 00:48:30.800
crazy for such a big budget.
Is Echil Simmons is just wearing slacks for

540
00:48:30.920 --> 00:48:35.320
part of it? What are you
talking about? So whend you watch this,

541
00:48:35.440 --> 00:48:38.880
mom, Someone's like you into their
garage and be like, watch my

542
00:48:38.960 --> 00:48:45.119
Madam Web. You're like it super
short, It's like twelve minutes long.

543
00:48:45.960 --> 00:48:52.119
It's a great short Phil. So, Cassie is having visions. She sees

544
00:48:52.360 --> 00:48:55.960
one of her well, she tries
to stop one of her fellow EMTs,

545
00:48:57.079 --> 00:49:01.320
he gets into a car accident,
he passes away. She's going to Poughkeepsie

546
00:49:01.360 --> 00:49:07.000
for the funeral. That's when she
encounters the four girls. She sees a

547
00:49:07.039 --> 00:49:13.679
vision of them all getting murdered.
She yanks them off the subway and she's

548
00:49:13.960 --> 00:49:15.280
they're like, what are you doing? What are you trying to protect this

549
00:49:15.360 --> 00:49:21.559
from She's like that, and they
see Ezekiel running around with his bare ass

550
00:49:21.599 --> 00:49:27.960
feet on the New York ground.
I did like that touch, because if

551
00:49:28.000 --> 00:49:34.599
you're just a regular person and you
see a man running around in his suit

552
00:49:35.079 --> 00:49:38.639
barefoot in the city, you're like
that that is a maniac. He's in

553
00:49:38.719 --> 00:49:45.559
the subway station barefoot. I need
to avoid him. This is bad news.

554
00:49:45.119 --> 00:49:49.960
There is this couple on TikTok who
are like, we're going to just

555
00:49:49.960 --> 00:49:52.440
go barefoot from now on, and
they were getting kicked out of stores,

556
00:49:52.519 --> 00:49:58.719
so they just took shoes and cut
out the bottoms and are just running around

557
00:49:58.719 --> 00:50:00.719
in stores with their feet on the
ground. And I'm like, oh,

558
00:50:00.800 --> 00:50:06.519
they definitely have ringworm. They definitely
have ringworm. So and so does Ezekiel.

559
00:50:06.800 --> 00:50:08.760
If if if the women don't kill
him the ring warm will they just

560
00:50:08.800 --> 00:50:15.159
gotta wait. I don't know,
he doesn't have like super spider healing power.

561
00:50:15.719 --> 00:50:23.280
I'm sure he does. Damn Those
ringworms are dead. So they they

562
00:50:24.119 --> 00:50:30.199
they flee, but like the girls
kind of the girls kind of just say

563
00:50:30.320 --> 00:50:32.719
like, like hell police, Like
this woman's trying to duct us and there's

564
00:50:32.719 --> 00:50:37.119
a whole thing where she nearly gets
arrested and Zequiel just shows up and kills

565
00:50:37.119 --> 00:50:42.079
the cops. They steal tacks,
kikes everyone in the torso. He gets

566
00:50:42.199 --> 00:50:45.199
like ten to twelve cops in the
torso, and then they're like, oh,

567
00:50:45.320 --> 00:50:51.760
it was Cassie. Cassie Webb kidnaped
some girls and hurt a bunch of

568
00:50:51.800 --> 00:50:55.480
cops. And I'm like, he
was up close enough that he two foot

569
00:50:55.599 --> 00:50:59.440
kicked you in the torso. Why
do you think it's this small woman?

570
00:51:00.159 --> 00:51:04.920
Yeah, and here's okay. So
here's the thing. Spider Man is stronger

571
00:51:05.199 --> 00:51:09.519
than like people give him credit for
it because he pulls his punches. So

572
00:51:10.000 --> 00:51:14.800
if you're just full on do you
want a Spider Man kick? You are

573
00:51:14.880 --> 00:51:20.039
killing people. Well, we already
said Ezekiel Sims is a bad guy,

574
00:51:20.280 --> 00:51:22.920
I think, askedon answer, like, yeah, he murdered a pregnant woman

575
00:51:22.960 --> 00:51:28.000
and a bunch of random dudes,
Like I don't think anyone's like, but

576
00:51:28.119 --> 00:51:34.239
what are his redeeming qualities? I'm
sure there's some awful dude's video being like

577
00:51:34.320 --> 00:51:38.000
Ezekiel is really the hero of this
movie. If you find that, please

578
00:51:38.039 --> 00:51:44.760
send it to me. That's so
funny. Like the gymnastics, like the

579
00:51:44.840 --> 00:51:47.880
logical gymnastics you would have to do
to say that Ezekiel is the hero of

580
00:51:47.920 --> 00:51:54.880
this movie, Like, I'm fascinated. Okay, brangworm all over the city

581
00:51:54.920 --> 00:52:00.840
with his bare ass feet. So
they steal a taxi. They flee into

582
00:52:00.000 --> 00:52:04.599
the woods of New York. Cassie's
like, hey, girls, I know

583
00:52:05.079 --> 00:52:07.920
the woods of New Jersey, the
woods in New Jersey. The girl She's

584
00:52:07.960 --> 00:52:12.639
like, hey girls, oh,
by the bye. There is a lot

585
00:52:12.679 --> 00:52:17.280
of product placements fill remember that later
seen amount of product placement, mostly for

586
00:52:17.360 --> 00:52:23.320
pepsi. But when Ezekiel comes to
hunt them down in the woods in New

587
00:52:23.400 --> 00:52:30.880
Jersey from midtown Manhattan, he gets
into a corvette. How this man has

588
00:52:30.920 --> 00:52:36.400
an alley, Like there's so many
alleys in movies in New York, and

589
00:52:36.480 --> 00:52:43.119
that's just not a thing that happens. There's no alleys. So Ezekiel rev

590
00:52:43.519 --> 00:52:49.960
his very fancy corvette which is parked
under a series of like fire escape stairs.

591
00:52:50.280 --> 00:52:53.679
And I felt like being like Ezekiel, I don't care how expensive your

592
00:52:53.679 --> 00:52:58.199
car is, you are not going
to get to New Jersey fast enough to

593
00:52:58.239 --> 00:53:02.679
catch them in the middle of a
meal during rush hour from midtown New York.

594
00:53:02.920 --> 00:53:07.239
You're just gonna be sitting in the
tunnel. Sorry, not sorry,

595
00:53:07.559 --> 00:53:10.880
I mean that is something I want
to see more of in films where it's

596
00:53:10.920 --> 00:53:16.840
just like the like the chase gets
bogged down in like midday traffic or like

597
00:53:16.920 --> 00:53:22.760
you know, rush hour. They're
eating dinner, so it's like six to

598
00:53:22.800 --> 00:53:25.920
seven o'clock. That's a two hour
commute. I don't know he's going to

599
00:53:27.000 --> 00:53:31.039
northwest New Jersey. I think if
there's woods like that, it's church somewhere.

600
00:53:31.599 --> 00:53:37.639
Yeah, So Cassie's just like,
all right, girls, enjoy the

601
00:53:37.679 --> 00:53:39.840
woods. I'll be back, And
I'm like, you can still to like

602
00:53:39.880 --> 00:53:45.440
a seven eleven. Get them some
food. The girls kind of like,

603
00:53:45.639 --> 00:53:50.960
here's my problem is, like I
felt like the the the Three Spider Women

604
00:53:51.639 --> 00:53:54.800
weren't characters. They were just like
one massive character that just went from place

605
00:53:54.800 --> 00:54:00.920
to place together, and like there
just wasn't that much different Cate them except

606
00:54:00.960 --> 00:54:05.760
for their sad backstories. They're like, even those were not that different.

607
00:54:06.280 --> 00:54:13.239
Yeah, Like my family is either
impacted by hardship or just neglectful of me

608
00:54:13.559 --> 00:54:19.000
or both. They're like, look, we put we put glasses. In

609
00:54:19.360 --> 00:54:24.079
the words of of a Caddie from
the Wonder Woman movie, Oh, yeah,

610
00:54:24.159 --> 00:54:27.960
so put some specs on her and
will pretend she's not the most beautiful

611
00:54:27.960 --> 00:54:32.519
woman have you ever seen? Like, uh, I know. It's so

612
00:54:34.360 --> 00:54:39.800
everyone looks very cute. They look
like the most ideal versions of early two

613
00:54:39.880 --> 00:54:47.159
thousands fashion, because early two thousands
fashion was Abomina Little. It's so terrible.

614
00:54:47.440 --> 00:54:51.639
The comeback it's making is not what
it looked like when it was happening.

615
00:54:51.880 --> 00:54:59.119
It's what's happening now is much cuter. And we get like a little

616
00:55:00.000 --> 00:55:05.079
needle drop with toxic and the girls
are, you know, dancing to it

617
00:55:05.320 --> 00:55:10.119
and dancing on a table in Jersey. Yes, for like a group of

618
00:55:10.159 --> 00:55:15.039
boys on the wrestling team or something. And so when Cassie comes back and

619
00:55:15.079 --> 00:55:20.440
goes to find them, she has
a vision of them doing this, and

620
00:55:20.480 --> 00:55:23.480
she's like, oh, he did
not lay low, And then of Ezekiel

621
00:55:23.559 --> 00:55:29.559
coming in. Ezekiel's wearing his suit, so he's not barefoot for once,

622
00:55:30.760 --> 00:55:37.599
and he attacks them. So in
her vision she storms in. Everything goes

623
00:55:37.639 --> 00:55:44.880
sideways. It does not work out, so she zips back in time.

624
00:55:45.159 --> 00:55:50.000
I guess, I'm not entirely sure
how like the time web jumping works,

625
00:55:50.719 --> 00:55:53.880
but it's basically like she runs through
the whole scenario in her head, and

626
00:55:53.920 --> 00:55:59.039
it's like, Okay, well that's
not gonna work. So then she's said

627
00:56:00.480 --> 00:56:06.519
when she's back in the woods,
her stolen taxi cab just happens to be

628
00:56:06.599 --> 00:56:12.800
on the same radio station as the
diner. So she drives her taxicab into

629
00:56:12.840 --> 00:56:22.760
the diner and then her and Ezekiel
have like fisticuffs. They get away,

630
00:56:23.039 --> 00:56:28.960
she hits like half ran him over
with the car, so he slightly,

631
00:56:29.079 --> 00:56:32.639
just like a touch, poisons her, which seems to lead to them being

632
00:56:32.800 --> 00:56:37.599
kind of mind linked, but we
never really see that again. Like Ezekiel

633
00:56:37.639 --> 00:56:42.199
doesn't seem to have any idea that
she's traveled to Peru. He just gets

634
00:56:42.320 --> 00:56:45.719
to kind of mind link to her
to the one time to be like,

635
00:56:45.199 --> 00:56:49.559
hey, guess what, I killed
your mom and you're never gonna be able

636
00:56:49.599 --> 00:56:52.920
to stop me, and like really
braggadocious for a person who's gonna die within

637
00:56:53.000 --> 00:56:57.079
like the next forty minutes of the
movie. Okay, and I don't know

638
00:56:57.119 --> 00:57:00.360
that much. I haven't seen this
actor, and a lot of things,

639
00:57:00.400 --> 00:57:04.079
like I'm sure he's probably much better
in other movies, but he was his

640
00:57:04.119 --> 00:57:07.920
line Delorris are so wooden in this
film I feel like it's because it's all

641
00:57:08.000 --> 00:57:14.639
dubbed over I don't I okay,
I'm gonna look up why it was dubbed

642
00:57:14.800 --> 00:57:21.320
and then can you go over their
like slight training montage. Okay, So

643
00:57:21.519 --> 00:57:27.320
Cassie brings the women to a brings
them to a motel. They all,

644
00:57:27.760 --> 00:57:32.400
you know, they camp out for
the night. She's like, I have

645
00:57:32.480 --> 00:57:39.440
to go to Peru. Well,
first she leaves and has the weird mind

646
00:57:39.440 --> 00:57:45.639
meld vision with him, and then
the next day the Spider Woman wakes up,

647
00:57:45.840 --> 00:57:50.079
wake up. She teaches them CPR, and then she's like, hey,

648
00:57:50.199 --> 00:57:52.000
I'm sending you with Ben. You
don't know yet. This is the

649
00:57:52.079 --> 00:57:57.239
uncle of Spider Man. Unlike what
Susie thinks, He's not an adulterous trader.

650
00:57:57.360 --> 00:58:00.920
He's actually a really good guy.
Okay, So I do want about

651
00:58:00.960 --> 00:58:05.000
the dynasty. I just want to
bring up one good point or one like

652
00:58:05.159 --> 00:58:09.440
one thing in the film's favor is
she is driving along trying to sync up

653
00:58:09.760 --> 00:58:15.719
the Diners radio with her car so
she can hit him in exactly the right

654
00:58:15.760 --> 00:58:19.440
moment, and she keeps me like, oh, like fucking like the signal

655
00:58:19.480 --> 00:58:22.320
goes out and like, you know, she's like, I need to like

656
00:58:22.920 --> 00:58:24.000
be able to get to him in
exactly the right moment. I was like,

657
00:58:24.039 --> 00:58:27.719
that is pretty cool. I like
that That's a very interesting way to

658
00:58:27.760 --> 00:58:31.280
use precognition. And also, you
know, if I'm gonna get hit by

659
00:58:31.320 --> 00:58:37.960
a car, I'd like to beat
to toxic. I mean toxic is uh

660
00:58:38.239 --> 00:58:45.840
okay? So I have ah answer
to the dubbing thing, Uh do you

661
00:58:45.199 --> 00:58:50.800
thank you to Comic Book Club Live
dot com Uhi? I've never heard of

662
00:58:50.840 --> 00:58:57.760
before? But they go down?
Was his voice dubbed yes? And it

663
00:58:57.880 --> 00:59:05.280
says here. Raheem is from France
and apparently was using some sort of accent

664
00:59:05.320 --> 00:59:10.840
in the movie. But he speaks
perfect English has sounded absolutely fine in previous

665
00:59:10.880 --> 00:59:17.199
English speaking productions like The Looming Tower, so it seems inexplicable that they dumped

666
00:59:17.280 --> 00:59:25.400
over all his lines. Apparently he
those lines you hear in the movie are

667
00:59:25.559 --> 00:59:30.800
to hear Raheem voicing them. That
includes the ze heel when he's I'm a

668
00:59:30.800 --> 00:59:37.119
barefoot businessman suit and includes when he's
in his evil Spider Man suit based on

669
00:59:37.360 --> 00:59:44.280
the Aaronis tribe in Peru. This
this movie would have been so much better

670
00:59:44.400 --> 00:59:52.320
if Ezekiel just had an outrageous French
accent. I mean, uh okay,

671
00:59:52.800 --> 00:59:59.559
I will get you metawb, you
are a sheet Yeah, so okay,

672
01:00:00.719 --> 01:00:02.800
So what's wrong with his dialogue?
Why does it seem like he's dubbed?

673
01:00:06.519 --> 01:00:09.719
So they're saying the sound mixing is
really bad, and I think that's part

674
01:00:09.719 --> 01:00:14.440
of what takes you out of it
too, is like there's a thing that's

675
01:00:14.639 --> 01:00:17.159
used in movies, and I think
we've talked about it in previous episodes where

676
01:00:17.239 --> 01:00:21.960
they take room tone, which is
just like there is no room that is

677
01:00:22.000 --> 01:00:24.280
ever one hundred percent silent, right
like the room I'm sitting in, I

678
01:00:24.320 --> 01:00:28.719
have an air purifier next to me. Dill's over on the other side of

679
01:00:28.760 --> 01:00:31.559
the room typing. You're gonna hear
cars going by. There's ambient noise,

680
01:00:32.400 --> 01:00:39.119
and there's with Ezekiel's lines that are
dubbed, you're not really hearing like let's

681
01:00:39.159 --> 01:00:43.039
say, noises you'd hear in the
subway. So it takes you out of

682
01:00:43.079 --> 01:00:46.960
it. And then because an actor
is almost never going to be able to

683
01:00:47.039 --> 01:00:53.519
sort of recreate the tone or the
passion that they have when they're delivering a

684
01:00:53.559 --> 01:00:58.719
line in person, anything done in
the sound booth is going to sound flat

685
01:00:58.920 --> 01:01:06.800
and strange and you know, sort
of like out of like sync with characters

686
01:01:06.800 --> 01:01:14.760
where they're just using you know,
their recorded sound from the scene. So

687
01:01:14.840 --> 01:01:22.159
now what this whole sort of like
some up is saying that apparently it was

688
01:01:22.280 --> 01:01:30.039
not dubbed because anything the actor was
doing like that, whatever sort of accent

689
01:01:30.119 --> 01:01:34.039
he picked to do for this film, that was a conscious decision that he

690
01:01:34.119 --> 01:01:37.480
made for this character. But for
plot reasons, it seems like they might

691
01:01:37.480 --> 01:01:42.159
have had him re record it,
and the re recording is where things because

692
01:01:42.360 --> 01:01:45.960
there is There were also parts where
Dakota Johnson was dubbed in, and I

693
01:01:45.960 --> 01:01:52.480
felt like those were also pretty obvious, but you usually were not looking at

694
01:01:52.480 --> 01:01:57.280
her lips, and they for some
reason they decided to take close ups of

695
01:01:57.360 --> 01:02:00.559
Zekiel Sims saying lines that were clear
really dubbed over with other lines, and

696
01:02:00.599 --> 01:02:04.039
they're like, fuck it, just
use it. Who cares, It's fine,

697
01:02:06.239 --> 01:02:08.639
dude, I would say, a
rather heavy disservice to the film.

698
01:02:09.920 --> 01:02:15.239
Yeah, sorry, that was like
a lot of like super minutia inside Baseball.

699
01:02:15.239 --> 01:02:19.440
But I love this kind of stuff
about movies. No thank I'm I'm

700
01:02:19.480 --> 01:02:23.760
happy to hear why he was dubbed. Okay, it is confusing, right,

701
01:02:23.880 --> 01:02:29.320
Like it's totally inexplicable. Yeah,
okay, so we're gonna finish up

702
01:02:29.320 --> 01:02:32.679
this movie. We take quick trip
to the Baked Sale. Okay, so

703
01:02:36.280 --> 01:02:38.760
Cassie is just like, hey,
Ben, I know you'll eventually be raising

704
01:02:38.800 --> 01:02:44.840
your your your nephew who Mary's pregnant
with. Right now, can you mind

705
01:02:44.960 --> 01:02:50.719
three teenage women, three teenage girls
for a bit while quick? John ta

706
01:02:50.880 --> 01:02:52.559
to Peru for a seven day trip? Cool? Thanks, thanks, thanks,

707
01:02:52.559 --> 01:03:00.840
thanks, thanks. So and we
see roughly like five to seven minutes

708
01:03:00.840 --> 01:03:07.039
of this trip, and like,
here's my thing is I could have done

709
01:03:07.119 --> 01:03:12.599
with just like showing the showing the
women, like some characterization of them,

710
01:03:12.880 --> 01:03:15.119
just be like, hey they you
know Mary, let us help you,

711
01:03:15.320 --> 01:03:19.239
or like I don't want to help
Mary, or just give me something.

712
01:03:19.360 --> 01:03:22.519
Just let me spend some time with
these three spider women, just like even

713
01:03:22.599 --> 01:03:29.159
just a little bit. And because
they basically act as avatars, they they're

714
01:03:29.199 --> 01:03:35.880
like placeholders of this is a character
you're gonna get to know in the sequel.

715
01:03:36.199 --> 01:03:38.320
And I'm like, but I want
to know them now. I Like,

716
01:03:38.400 --> 01:03:45.079
I don't need to know about Ezekiel
Simm's weird obsessions. I don't need

717
01:03:45.119 --> 01:03:52.360
to know about Debbie's like nsa plot
to keep herself employed. Okay, I

718
01:03:52.400 --> 01:03:59.760
would rather watch that movie and then
everyone at the office it's like, really

719
01:04:00.079 --> 01:04:04.440
it out about it, But it
would I feel like it could be a

720
01:04:04.519 --> 01:04:12.440
mix of that and that Jennifer Lawrence
movie Red Sparrow, where she's like she's

721
01:04:12.480 --> 01:04:20.559
basically placing herself in these like like
super strategic particular sort of like high stakes

722
01:04:20.639 --> 01:04:25.519
situation, but it's just so she
can keep this government job. That would

723
01:04:25.559 --> 01:04:29.639
be such a fun movie. It'd
be so strange have David Lynch directed.

724
01:04:29.880 --> 01:04:35.199
There we go. So the she
goes to the Peru, she finds about

725
01:04:35.199 --> 01:04:39.280
the spider people. They're like,
you are connected to the web of life.

726
01:04:39.519 --> 01:04:42.719
I'm like, wow, we don't
know what the web of life is.

727
01:04:42.760 --> 01:04:45.760
We've never heard about it. It
is basically just put in there too,

728
01:04:46.239 --> 01:04:51.280
so we understand later when Cassie splits
herself into three different locations at once

729
01:04:51.639 --> 01:04:57.880
and she's like is this my last
name is Well and like wow, really

730
01:04:57.920 --> 01:05:03.920
presumptuous. It's not all she flies
back to. She flies back to America.

731
01:05:04.960 --> 01:05:11.840
Mary starts going into labor. They
take her start taking her to the

732
01:05:11.880 --> 01:05:16.360
hospital. Then like rushing her there, we still don't know what the baby's

733
01:05:16.440 --> 01:05:18.079
name is, Like, yeah,
we all know what it's Peter Parker.

734
01:05:18.960 --> 01:05:24.199
We don't know, Frank don't say
we all know. I didn't know.

735
01:05:24.679 --> 01:05:28.119
Even when they're like Peter, I
was like, okay, I don't know

736
01:05:28.119 --> 01:05:34.199
why this was treated like such a
thing at the baby shower. So they

737
01:05:35.679 --> 01:05:41.679
Cassie has a vision of them getting
killed by like a bomb at Ezekial just

738
01:05:41.679 --> 01:05:50.519
throws into their under their car and
hey, can we talk about how I

739
01:05:50.559 --> 01:05:58.719
guess they're in Queens when this happened. She dry She sees this bomb and

740
01:05:58.760 --> 01:06:04.639
she's like, I gotta fly in. In this plan, there is a

741
01:06:04.679 --> 01:06:12.920
parking deck in the middle of a
city intersection that does not have walls but

742
01:06:13.079 --> 01:06:17.719
has a billboard in front of it. And she drives through a billboard into

743
01:06:17.800 --> 01:06:25.280
the middle of an intersection. What
what what is the integrity of this building?

744
01:06:25.880 --> 01:06:32.280
Where Like, I don't believe that
real estate in Queens is so cheap

745
01:06:32.320 --> 01:06:38.880
that you could just buy a huge
plot to make a parking structure. There's

746
01:06:38.920 --> 01:06:43.559
like there are parking lots, but
they're like few and far between, and

747
01:06:43.599 --> 01:06:45.599
they put cars up on lifts and
they charge you a lot of money.

748
01:06:45.639 --> 01:06:48.519
It's not like in a suburban area
where you're like, oh, I'm just

749
01:06:48.599 --> 01:06:53.599
driving around the circle and parking by
car. So I thought that was very

750
01:06:53.599 --> 01:06:56.800
funny. And of course she drives
through a Calvin Klein at and Calvin Kline

751
01:06:56.840 --> 01:07:00.320
is banked at the end of the
credits. Thank you for you use of

752
01:07:00.360 --> 01:07:06.480
your ad Calvin kleinb Yeah, and
Maddie is wearing a visible Calvin Klein underwear

753
01:07:06.519 --> 01:07:12.559
band for the entire entirety of the
film and like and at this point they

754
01:07:12.599 --> 01:07:16.960
have not realized that Ezekiel's main weakness
he's been getting hit by cars because he's

755
01:07:16.960 --> 01:07:19.880
gonna gotten hit by two and I'm
like, kid with some more cars.

756
01:07:20.840 --> 01:07:27.800
Well, i mean she'll hit him
with it the actual death now, which

757
01:07:27.880 --> 01:07:32.760
is the pepsip. Yeah. So
she's like, girls, come with me.

758
01:07:33.079 --> 01:07:38.119
We're gonna drive to a fireworks factory. Unlike Itchy and Scratch you,

759
01:07:38.119 --> 01:07:44.400
we'll actually make it to the fireworks
factory. And fireworks factory is very dangerous

760
01:07:44.440 --> 01:07:49.880
and has no structural integrity. But
I'm bringing you here for the climactic battle

761
01:07:50.159 --> 01:07:54.280
with the bad guy, who has
proven himself to be a total maniac.

762
01:07:54.800 --> 01:07:59.159
Could go wrong and Ezekiel's like,
well there they go. Hmm. I

763
01:07:59.400 --> 01:08:03.800
could take Mary Parker hostage and be
like, either bring me the girls or

764
01:08:03.840 --> 01:08:09.119
I kill her and her unborn child, or are you just chase after them?

765
01:08:09.320 --> 01:08:11.360
Well, first of all, Frank, how's he gonna get in touch

766
01:08:11.400 --> 01:08:15.400
with him? Right? Like?
No cell phone? That's a good point

767
01:08:15.800 --> 01:08:17.520
a lot of people had, Like
I had a cell phone in two thousand

768
01:08:17.520 --> 01:08:19.560
and three, and I was one
of the last people in my life to

769
01:08:19.560 --> 01:08:21.840
get a cell phone. So I
don't know, we'll just leave that where

770
01:08:21.840 --> 01:08:28.359
it is. I mean, I
feel like Cassie definitely would have had a

771
01:08:28.399 --> 01:08:30.199
cell phone and Ben would have had
a cell phone because they're EMTs. But

772
01:08:31.039 --> 01:08:35.039
fine, let's suspend our disbelief they
don't have cell phones. But she literally

773
01:08:35.119 --> 01:08:39.119
says to Ben, Oh, don't
worry about it is he doesn't care about

774
01:08:39.159 --> 01:08:41.479
you anymore because I'm not there.
And if I was bet, I'd be

775
01:08:41.600 --> 01:08:45.920
like, are you willing to take
that bet? Because it doesn't seem like

776
01:08:45.920 --> 01:08:49.600
Ezekiel like really draws those lines.
He's just kind of like, well,

777
01:08:49.640 --> 01:08:53.600
you made my life difficult, so
I'm gonna murder you now, okay.

778
01:08:53.720 --> 01:08:58.960
So also and like he and like
they also do a sick thing where he

779
01:08:59.039 --> 01:09:01.199
jumps on the roof of the ambulance
and they shock it with the defibrillator.

780
01:09:01.479 --> 01:09:04.399
I was like, hell, yeah, that's pretty cool. Well, in

781
01:09:04.520 --> 01:09:08.439
the ambulance dies, which makes sense
because if you sent that much of a

782
01:09:08.520 --> 01:09:13.319
current through a vehicle, I presume
you would blow the battery. So they

783
01:09:13.319 --> 01:09:16.359
get to the dual Pepsi fireworks factory
because for some reason, it's a giant

784
01:09:16.359 --> 01:09:21.680
pepsi thing, but it's a fireworks
factory. It's a pepsi cola light up

785
01:09:24.319 --> 01:09:31.399
like billboard advertisement on the river and
the fireworks factory at the docks. Yeah.

786
01:09:31.600 --> 01:09:38.439
Cassidy is at this point just well
pre coggin like she's in Minority Report.

787
01:09:38.680 --> 01:09:41.279
She's like, go here, go
there. That's my favorite moment in

788
01:09:41.399 --> 01:09:45.479
all Minority Report. Did you ever
see Minory Report? I did not.

789
01:09:45.960 --> 01:09:49.560
I I think I read this story
it was based on. Okay, So

790
01:09:50.159 --> 01:09:55.159
Comic Book Club Live is really just
knocking it out of the park today.

791
01:09:55.680 --> 01:10:00.039
So that of what Pepsi sign is
a real location in New York. It

792
01:10:00.119 --> 01:10:06.840
interesting. Well, Colic Book Comic
Book Live dot Com knows how SEO is

793
01:10:06.880 --> 01:10:10.520
ron because they knew everybodys we talk
about this movie, They're like, we're

794
01:10:10.520 --> 01:10:15.079
gonna have multiple articles about it.
Okay. It's located in Long Island City,

795
01:10:15.119 --> 01:10:19.319
which is Queens, just across from
the river, the river from Manhattan.

796
01:10:19.560 --> 01:10:27.439
It's especially visible from the FDR on
the east side of Manhattan. It

797
01:10:27.520 --> 01:10:33.479
is not a pepsi factory or an
abandoned fireworks factory. It was named a

798
01:10:33.600 --> 01:10:43.199
landmark in twenty sixteen. And I
kind of want to know if there is

799
01:10:44.319 --> 01:10:46.920
a parking deck there so you can
continue with the fireworks fight. I just

800
01:10:46.920 --> 01:10:49.560
want okay, well, there's not
much to it, Like they just keep

801
01:10:49.600 --> 01:10:55.640
hitting with fireworks. They finally and
everybody ends up hanging from scaffolding because of

802
01:10:55.720 --> 01:10:59.560
various because they're in the middle of
a fireworks factory exploding. And I have

803
01:10:59.640 --> 01:11:03.560
this very vivid memory of when YouTube
first arrived on the scene that like,

804
01:11:03.600 --> 01:11:08.720
the only videos that seem to be
being posted on it were firework factory fires,

805
01:11:09.560 --> 01:11:13.319
and just like everybody's everybody had a
firework factory fire, Like check this

806
01:11:13.399 --> 01:11:15.840
out. I'm like, this is
a different fireworks factory. How much do

807
01:11:15.920 --> 01:11:23.239
these things light on fire? Ezekiel
mocks, He's like, I killed your

808
01:11:23.279 --> 01:11:25.279
mom, and she's like yes,
what now, I killed you, idiot?

809
01:11:25.880 --> 01:11:29.880
He gets crushed. He's being shitty. I feel like in a way

810
01:11:30.000 --> 01:11:34.159
that makes a lot of sense.
He's like, you think you're good,

811
01:11:34.159 --> 01:11:39.399
but you're not good enough. But
you're never gonna be good enough it and

812
01:11:39.439 --> 01:11:46.039
it's very annoying and it's very satisfying
when he's burgered right after that. Yeah,

813
01:11:46.600 --> 01:11:49.359
so like, what can your mind
do? We can't even shoot mind

814
01:11:49.359 --> 01:11:56.079
bullets with telekinesis Cassie. But she's
like, yes, what like, but

815
01:11:56.239 --> 01:12:00.640
I can. I can make duplicates
of myself and they'll help the girls up.

816
01:12:00.960 --> 01:12:04.600
And they help the girls up,
and then she falls in the water

817
01:12:04.840 --> 01:12:15.640
and gets both paralyzed and blinded by
fireworks, and the girl the girls go

818
01:12:15.720 --> 01:12:21.000
to visit her, like I was
wearing some really cool Gucci sunglasses. Yeah,

819
01:12:21.239 --> 01:12:25.720
and I was just like that,
well this, you know, it

820
01:12:25.760 --> 01:12:30.319
makes sense those sunglasses. And if
Comic book Live dot com has a thing

821
01:12:30.319 --> 01:12:38.199
about them, I will be so
ssiched. Two out of the It's a

822
01:12:38.239 --> 01:12:41.439
good thing that two of the three
women are turbo rich, because I think

823
01:12:41.520 --> 01:12:47.800
that's how Cassie like is getting stuffed
with these the sweet new wheelchair you know

824
01:12:47.920 --> 01:12:53.159
it is it like, save your
kids. You know she's been wearing the

825
01:12:53.239 --> 01:12:57.600
sunglasses. Dakota Johnson, the person, not Madam What the character has been

826
01:12:57.600 --> 01:13:02.720
wearing the sunglasses to do impressiveppearances for
the movie. Nice. This is what

827
01:13:02.760 --> 01:13:08.359
I'm saying, Like, I need
you to name this episode. We need

828
01:13:08.399 --> 01:13:13.840
Madam Web two yesterday, because I
am I know that. My whole thing

829
01:13:13.960 --> 01:13:16.760
last week was I was gonna love
this movie. I genuinely liked this movie,

830
01:13:16.840 --> 01:13:19.680
and now that I'm following up about
it, I'm like, Yes,

831
01:13:20.000 --> 01:13:28.119
more of this, Yes, Bran. I think I think my shameful secret

832
01:13:28.600 --> 01:13:38.560
is that I like the Sony Superhero
Universe better than the Marble so much better.

833
01:13:39.560 --> 01:13:42.439
Can you ask me might have three
Marble movies? I'd be like,

834
01:13:42.520 --> 01:13:45.439
I don't know. They're all really
long and there's a lot of CGI.

835
01:13:45.159 --> 01:13:49.720
If you asked me to pick my
favorite out of the trio of Morbid Morbius,

836
01:13:49.800 --> 01:13:53.600
Venom, and Madam Web, I'd
be like, you can't ask me

837
01:13:53.640 --> 01:13:56.880
to pick between my children. That's
just cruol. Well, what about Venom

838
01:13:56.960 --> 01:14:02.880
twos? Is it okay? It's
tough because they didn't put Woody Harrelson in

839
01:14:02.920 --> 01:14:06.159
The Little Orphan anyway, which you
know has been a sticking point for me.

840
01:14:06.520 --> 01:14:12.319
But I like that one too.
It's super stupid him and Venom break

841
01:14:12.479 --> 01:14:16.960
up. It's like so like I
mean Eddie and Benham break up or that

842
01:14:17.000 --> 01:14:26.279
happened to the first one. I
love them all, Cissy, I that

843
01:14:26.399 --> 01:14:30.319
this makes perfect sense that you like
these movies better, because like, give

844
01:14:30.359 --> 01:14:34.880
these movies. Give these movies their
dudes, they were willing to try,

845
01:14:35.000 --> 01:14:40.279
like because that this is the problem, Reseat. The problem with the Marvel

846
01:14:40.319 --> 01:14:44.239
movies is all of them are safe
now, Like they're not taking chances,

847
01:14:44.239 --> 01:14:47.520
they're not taking risks, you know. Like that's why everybody was so pummed

848
01:14:47.560 --> 01:14:51.840
on Infinity Warren Endgame because it's like
we're gonna just kill half of the cast,

849
01:14:51.920 --> 01:14:58.000
and that's just what's gonna happen,
you know. And like these movies

850
01:14:58.039 --> 01:15:03.560
are short, they're compact. They
did not remember. The only thing I

851
01:15:03.640 --> 01:15:14.640
remember from either Infinity War or Endgame
is Tom Holland crying when he disappears or

852
01:15:14.640 --> 01:15:18.640
evaporates or whatever you call it.
That was some really amazing acting. It

853
01:15:18.720 --> 01:15:21.399
was heart wrenching. It is the
only thing I remember because the rest of

854
01:15:21.399 --> 01:15:28.760
it just like slid off my brain. Yeah, madam, web is written

855
01:15:28.760 --> 01:15:34.239
on my soul is my eating heart. I don't know what. Morvius is

856
01:15:35.760 --> 01:15:43.439
my foot, it's my foot.
Morbus is the feeling in my gut when

857
01:15:43.479 --> 01:15:49.239
I know things are right or wrong. I know they're not going to make

858
01:15:49.239 --> 01:15:55.520
a second Morevius, and I'm so
sad. And I hope that you know

859
01:15:55.680 --> 01:16:00.439
at some point the same group that
made the bring Morbius back to the Getters

860
01:16:00.479 --> 01:16:04.840
and then didn't go see it when
it got rolled back makes Morbious two petition,

861
01:16:05.920 --> 01:16:11.479
because Tony it'll be like cool.
Yeah, morbous too. We need

862
01:16:11.520 --> 01:16:15.000
to write off. Nobody will see
it except for me. We need to

863
01:16:15.079 --> 01:16:18.239
keep spider Man. With rice of
spider Man, we'll make another movie.

864
01:16:18.319 --> 01:16:23.399
We made crape in the Hunter already. But who isn't that? How have

865
01:16:23.479 --> 01:16:28.000
I not seen this? Well?
No, it's coming out it stars Uh

866
01:16:28.119 --> 01:16:31.680
what is his name? The guy
who played Quicksilver driven the Hunter. It's

867
01:16:31.680 --> 01:16:38.359
coming out this year, Aaron Taylor
Johnson. That wasn't Quicksilver. Quicksilver was

868
01:16:38.399 --> 01:16:43.119
the guy from American Horror Story.
He played Quicksilver. He played Quicksilver and

869
01:16:44.119 --> 01:16:53.319
Avengers Ultron the Age of Ultron.
Yeah, but in the then there were

870
01:16:53.319 --> 01:17:02.119
two quick Stars. Are they different
guys? Yes, Oh, I'm talking

871
01:17:02.159 --> 01:17:06.399
about the one that has the silver
hair. They both have silver hair.

872
01:17:09.640 --> 01:17:13.720
I don't I'm not even mad at
this. I'm just confused. He's only

873
01:17:13.760 --> 01:17:17.640
in one film. He dies and
Elizabeth Olsa is very sad about it,

874
01:17:17.680 --> 01:17:21.399
and she rips out Ultron's heart.
She's like, this is what it feels

875
01:17:21.479 --> 01:17:25.920
like. Okay, so the one
I saw came after that because I didn't

876
01:17:25.920 --> 01:17:31.680
see age of Ultron. Ron is
not good. The only good thing about

877
01:17:31.720 --> 01:17:40.239
Asia Ultron is that people took Robert
California like lines and dubbed them over Ultron's

878
01:17:40.279 --> 01:17:44.880
lines. He's like, you don't
even know my name on the fucking lizard

879
01:17:44.920 --> 01:17:54.880
case. I'm always here for like
dubbing over like a comedy actor's lines into

880
01:17:54.960 --> 01:18:00.720
like a it's like serious film.
Like they took uh John Ralfield's lines and

881
01:18:01.920 --> 01:18:06.760
dub them over like The Amazing Spider
Man, like because Andrew Garfield Andrew Garfier

882
01:18:06.840 --> 01:18:11.239
kind of looked like him, and
like he's just swimming swinging. You just

883
01:18:11.319 --> 01:18:16.039
experienced swinging through the sea, goes
I got run over by Alexis and then

884
01:18:16.159 --> 01:18:19.079
like they did the same thing with
Sonic because like how are you still lavet

885
01:18:19.199 --> 01:18:24.920
pills? Daby? Oh my god? Okay, what are we doing for

886
01:18:25.000 --> 01:18:30.279
the first week of your month?
June Tube? That comes out already?

887
01:18:30.800 --> 01:18:35.359
Yeah, I have tickets to see
Oh wait, what what is next?

888
01:18:35.359 --> 01:18:40.560
Sunday? The second? Uh?
The third? Okay, No, it

889
01:18:40.600 --> 01:18:43.239
won't be out already. I wouldn't
have seen it by then. Okay.

890
01:18:43.479 --> 01:18:45.880
I was gonna say, I'm very
excited of me see Zendaya actually do stuff

891
01:18:45.920 --> 01:18:49.279
in Dune, unlike the last one
where it's just like, here's Zendaya.

892
01:18:49.720 --> 01:18:56.800
Isn't she pretty? Okay, it's
gonna see Drive Away Dolls. Yes,

893
01:19:00.000 --> 01:19:03.920
I'm very excited about it. Also, I'm so excited to do a Coen

894
01:19:03.960 --> 01:19:10.520
Brothers movie on this podcast or Cohen
brother Did you see the preview for Taro

895
01:19:12.279 --> 01:19:16.840
No, We're gonna have to do
it. It has the actress who is

896
01:19:16.880 --> 01:19:25.920
both in Spin and Mean Girls in
it, and it's like very goofy.

897
01:19:26.039 --> 01:19:31.000
It's about a possessed tarot deck that
a group of teens finds and then they

898
01:19:31.039 --> 01:19:38.399
get killed like monsters that look like
the original artwork on the spooky Possessed Tarot

899
01:19:38.439 --> 01:19:44.000
Deck? Is this a PG thirteen? Potentially? I don't think it's a

900
01:19:44.039 --> 01:19:46.159
blumhouse, but it looks like it
should be a blumhouse. No, it's

901
01:19:46.199 --> 01:19:51.319
any pictures. Yes, oh my
god. So they get ready for a

902
01:19:51.319 --> 01:20:00.600
lot of get ready for a lot
of Persona talk Why because in the persona

903
01:20:00.640 --> 01:20:06.640
games, your various social lengths are
represented by members of the taro Oh,

904
01:20:08.199 --> 01:20:15.600
I changed my mind. But you're
going to make you watch Ordinary Angels.

905
01:20:16.239 --> 01:20:18.600
If you would like to write us, you can write us at real teen

906
01:20:18.640 --> 01:20:23.680
Girl. What what is Ordinary Angels? Oh? Look it up. It's

907
01:20:23.800 --> 01:20:30.479
like one of those like Pure Films
movies. I'm getting bombarded with ads for

908
01:20:30.680 --> 01:20:35.359
that and Imaginary, which I'm not
seeing Imaginary because it's going to scare me.

909
01:20:36.000 --> 01:20:41.800
And then I'm not seeing Ordinary Angels
because I'm like, guys, this

910
01:20:41.960 --> 01:20:45.239
is just like not my whole thing. But if you'd like to write us,

911
01:20:45.239 --> 01:20:48.640
you can write us at Realteengirl talk
at gmail dot com. We have

912
01:20:48.640 --> 01:20:54.439
a Facebook group and page that Frank
moderates, and until next week, I

913
01:20:54.479 --> 01:20:58.359
am Susie Codadadada