WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.120 --> 00:00:03.759 For thirty five years, Cindy Stumpo has been a female home builder with a 2 00:00:03.799 --> 00:00:07.839 passion for design, a mastery of detail, and a commitment to her crack. 3 00:00:07.919 --> 00:00:11.279 With daughter Samantha Stumpo by her side, I don't need my whole family 4 00:00:11.320 --> 00:00:13.679 on a date with me. That's a good note. It's godemn weird. 5 00:00:13.759 --> 00:00:18.480 See. Stumpo Development is the only second generation female construction company in the country. 6 00:00:18.600 --> 00:00:22.960 You're crazy, You're a wacko, You're insane. I mean, it 7 00:00:23.079 --> 00:00:27.320 just doesn't end together. Cindy and Samantha welcome guests to explore the world of 8 00:00:27.399 --> 00:00:32.000 construction, real estate, development, design and more. Unpredictable. Every time 9 00:00:32.039 --> 00:00:34.240 I think I know what you want, you'd switch it out. But that's 10 00:00:34.240 --> 00:00:38.119 what makes sure houses all your day discuss anything that happens between the roof and 11 00:00:38.159 --> 00:00:41.920 the foundation. Nothing is off limits. You truly do care about everybody. 12 00:00:41.960 --> 00:00:44.640 She can yell at chicken scream, but when you get her alone, she's 13 00:00:44.679 --> 00:00:54.159 the best person on the planet. Cindy Stumpo is tough as nails and welcome 14 00:00:54.159 --> 00:00:58.880 to Cindy Stumbo Toughest Nails on WBZ News Radio ten thirty and again, I'm 15 00:00:58.880 --> 00:01:03.079 winning the studio with come on, Angelina, you learn here Angelina, Chad 16 00:01:03.120 --> 00:01:08.319 Stump and and I am Jesse monockelm And who's Jesse? Well, first of 17 00:01:08.359 --> 00:01:11.959 all, thanks for having me. I am the executive we want to have 18 00:01:12.079 --> 00:01:15.799 you. I'm the executive director and CEO of Mass Golf, the State Golf 19 00:01:15.799 --> 00:01:19.239 Association. Okay. And for people that don't cough with the people up at 20 00:01:19.239 --> 00:01:22.879 they don't cough anymore, we're trying to get them in the family. Get 21 00:01:23.079 --> 00:01:25.159 We'll bring them in. I don't know, bet, I was a golf 22 00:01:25.200 --> 00:01:30.719 widow mcolf mother. I've been at golf. I don't even I don't like 23 00:01:30.799 --> 00:01:33.879 golf. Okay, I've been the one making a living so big else can 24 00:01:33.920 --> 00:01:36.760 go golf. Okay, but tell me, Jesse, tell me what's going 25 00:01:36.799 --> 00:01:40.120 on out there? You how'd you take get into this position? Give me 26 00:01:40.159 --> 00:01:42.519 the background, and how do you end up here? Sure? Yeah, 27 00:01:42.560 --> 00:01:46.239 Well I grew up playing. My father introduced me to the game. I 28 00:01:46.280 --> 00:01:49.719 was probably about four or five years old. Common story, right, I 29 00:01:49.799 --> 00:01:53.959 mean that happens, played a little bit competitively through high school and then in 30 00:01:55.000 --> 00:01:57.760 college was like anyone else, what am I going to do with my life? 31 00:01:59.239 --> 00:02:05.480 Pursued sports management and always knew there was some sports administration interest, knew 32 00:02:05.519 --> 00:02:09.080 there was an affinity for golf, and cold called a few organizations, the 33 00:02:09.080 --> 00:02:14.360 Mask Golf Association being one, and they brought me on as an intern my 34 00:02:14.759 --> 00:02:19.800 first summer in school and since then I stuck around for three summers. They 35 00:02:19.879 --> 00:02:23.599 hired me when I graduated from school. So you started with them in college. 36 00:02:23.680 --> 00:02:28.039 I did, I did, and I haven't left. So and that's 37 00:02:28.039 --> 00:02:30.960 how many years later? This is? This is year eighteen all in, 38 00:02:31.159 --> 00:02:34.800 so it took you eighteen years to become president. Well, I've been in 39 00:02:34.800 --> 00:02:39.080 this world now eleven. So I ran our championships for about six years and 40 00:02:39.159 --> 00:02:44.039 so three years is an intern, about six years running events and now year 41 00:02:44.080 --> 00:02:46.120 eleven as executive director. And Chow, when did you meet Chessie? How 42 00:02:46.159 --> 00:02:49.400 did you know Chesseay? On day one? He's noised since I was a 43 00:02:49.400 --> 00:02:53.879 little kid running around out there, what thirteen twelve years old, competing absolutely 44 00:02:53.080 --> 00:02:59.240 one event to the next, and you watch all these kids chasing the dream. 45 00:03:00.599 --> 00:03:02.759 Yeah, you know, it's it's interesting because we serve all levels of 46 00:03:02.759 --> 00:03:06.240 play, right, so you might have juniors that are looking to pursue, 47 00:03:06.319 --> 00:03:08.039 you know, a competitive career in the game. But on the other end 48 00:03:08.080 --> 00:03:10.639 of it, you might have a mid am who just enjoys the game. 49 00:03:12.199 --> 00:03:15.199 They work for a living, but they have that competitive juice. Maybe they 50 00:03:15.240 --> 00:03:17.360 played in high school, they played in college, and they still keep that 51 00:03:17.400 --> 00:03:22.080 fire going where they can compete, you know, as a twenty five year 52 00:03:22.120 --> 00:03:24.560 old or even as a senior amateur a fifty five and up. We offer 53 00:03:24.599 --> 00:03:29.719 those events for everybody, and I think that was what your father wanted to 54 00:03:29.759 --> 00:03:34.280 do. And don't remember it was called the Senior Tour. Yeah, you 55 00:03:34.319 --> 00:03:39.080 want to try out back. It is a forty fifty senior tour. So 56 00:03:39.360 --> 00:03:44.960 the Mascolf Association does all these type of tournaments. Yeah, it's one component 57 00:03:44.960 --> 00:03:49.280 of our services. We're an organization of member clubs. So the clubs in 58 00:03:49.319 --> 00:03:53.719 Massachusetts are a member of our organization. We service them whether it's through handicapping, 59 00:03:53.800 --> 00:03:59.240 course raiding. But then on the golfer side, one of our major 60 00:03:59.719 --> 00:04:03.360 show cases is really our championships and our tournaments. So who who heads up 61 00:04:03.439 --> 00:04:09.840 like us AM is that you guys. So the USGA is the national governing 62 00:04:09.840 --> 00:04:12.599 body. We're a partner of the us GA. We're kind of their local 63 00:04:12.599 --> 00:04:15.600 affiliate if you will, and we conduct their local qualifying. So we'll host 64 00:04:15.600 --> 00:04:19.079 the USAM qualifier in Massachusetts, okay, and then also do the u S 65 00:04:19.120 --> 00:04:23.079 Open call. That's been Chad. Your only turn is that you always come 66 00:04:23.120 --> 00:04:27.079 in like, oh, I've had the USAM. I've had so many bad 67 00:04:27.079 --> 00:04:30.519 stories on my home course, Blue Hill. It's mah, what's that kid? 68 00:04:30.879 --> 00:04:34.560 Something? Broom, Matt broom. We're going to playoff because I just 69 00:04:34.560 --> 00:04:38.959 go I went wild on the final nine. We go to one. He's 70 00:04:39.000 --> 00:04:42.240 in the back of the green. This it's straight downhill. I too put. 71 00:04:42.439 --> 00:04:45.439 I'm going to the us M. This thing hits a come from sixty 72 00:04:45.480 --> 00:04:47.959 feet, go straight up and then he takes my spot. Wow yep. 73 00:04:50.639 --> 00:04:53.920 And apparently his friend took my stys on the day of the night before. 74 00:04:53.959 --> 00:05:00.000 That was great and his friend he did. The kid popped the ball. 75 00:05:00.079 --> 00:05:01.560 Yeah yeah, and at least if not it was off the green going into 76 00:05:01.600 --> 00:05:04.040 the friends, you had to chip up and unces, you made the chip. 77 00:05:04.160 --> 00:05:09.439 He's had some crazy like moments. Yeah, it's golf. Let me 78 00:05:09.480 --> 00:05:14.000 tell you're playing against mother nature, right, and sometimes those stars just have 79 00:05:14.040 --> 00:05:16.160 to line up and a your a lucky day. It's one of those crazy 80 00:05:16.920 --> 00:05:19.839 you're grinded for every shot out there. Let me tell you that you're working 81 00:05:19.879 --> 00:05:28.560 for every shot. So okay, so tell me about do you see these 82 00:05:28.680 --> 00:05:31.720 kids that are getting younger and younger? You're how old? Now? I'm 83 00:05:31.759 --> 00:05:36.040 thirty seven, so you're young. But if you ask golfers that are in 84 00:05:36.040 --> 00:05:41.160 their fifties and sixties, they would tell you good golfers didn't hit the PGA 85 00:05:41.279 --> 00:05:46.040 till the late middle thirties. Is that correct? I think years ago that 86 00:05:46.120 --> 00:05:48.240 might have been the case. It's getting younger and younger. And how young 87 00:05:48.279 --> 00:05:54.279 are they? Well, several are not going to college, going right to 88 00:05:54.439 --> 00:05:57.639 the pros from high school. Really, yeah, we've seen that recently. 89 00:05:58.800 --> 00:06:00.839 But you've also got college has a good development option. You know, a 90 00:06:00.920 --> 00:06:08.319 kid like Michael thorp Jornson, he's he's at Stanford right now and he has 91 00:06:08.319 --> 00:06:12.199 an opportunity to get to the PGA Tour just by way of his collegiate finishes. 92 00:06:12.759 --> 00:06:15.399 So no more C school for something like that, or there is still 93 00:06:15.439 --> 00:06:18.879 Q school, but there's other avenues through the sponsors, exemptions and stuff like 94 00:06:18.920 --> 00:06:23.199 that. Oh yeah, that you don't have to go. And this this 95 00:06:23.279 --> 00:06:26.720 kid, Michael, he's he's a stick. He's the real deal. One 96 00:06:26.720 --> 00:06:29.879 thing I would share to just locally. I think the junior golf scene has 97 00:06:29.959 --> 00:06:33.240 changed dramatically. You grew up with it, but it's changed even since him. 98 00:06:33.399 --> 00:06:36.079 It has. Yeah, there's more players number one, and there's more 99 00:06:36.079 --> 00:06:40.959 talent. You can play year round, right, you can go through simulate. 100 00:06:41.199 --> 00:06:44.759 You know, there's there's different programs, clinics. But here here's my 101 00:06:44.879 --> 00:06:47.680 question to you. If you're living in Florida, why did you get to 102 00:06:47.720 --> 00:06:55.399 come to mass and sign up here? Easier competition sometimes because they've been playing 103 00:06:55.399 --> 00:06:59.319 all your in Florida, but that come back here. Well, given the 104 00:06:59.360 --> 00:07:03.560 kids actually working, we're kind of in that snowbird scenario where you might have 105 00:07:03.600 --> 00:07:08.439 families that go down south over the winter come back for the summer. So 106 00:07:08.600 --> 00:07:12.120 but it is aren't they working the system? A bit? A little bit? 107 00:07:12.480 --> 00:07:14.720 But you can't stop that? No. I mean, for us, 108 00:07:14.720 --> 00:07:16.160 if if you're a member of Mask Golf, if you have an affiliation, 109 00:07:16.360 --> 00:07:20.519 a handicap or membership at one of our clubs, you're eligible to Oh you 110 00:07:20.560 --> 00:07:24.079 are, so you have to have some ties to Mask, you do, 111 00:07:24.839 --> 00:07:29.639 but that's easy to get. No, relatively speaking, Yeah, okay, 112 00:07:30.360 --> 00:07:32.959 all right, well let's go off to other questions. Are you happy who 113 00:07:32.959 --> 00:07:38.240 you are? Extremely Yeah, this has been an incredible ride and seeing a 114 00:07:38.240 --> 00:07:42.639 lot of change over eighteen years. Scotty still over there, No, Scottie 115 00:07:42.720 --> 00:07:46.879 is. He's worked at actually a few clubs in the South Shore area. 116 00:07:46.279 --> 00:07:51.120 So basically Start is an intern and ended up as present eighteen years. So 117 00:07:51.160 --> 00:07:56.959 you ways stuck it out. I did not your typical millennial right, No, 118 00:07:57.040 --> 00:08:00.519 not at all. Well, you have the attentions of being a fe 119 00:08:01.160 --> 00:08:05.759 I like that. I okay, I'm the worst person talk golf, Chad. 120 00:08:05.040 --> 00:08:09.959 You got questions there? This is joshtick, not mine. There you 121 00:08:09.000 --> 00:08:11.680 go, all right? Did was worth to support it? All? Okay? 122 00:08:11.879 --> 00:08:16.439 There you go? What it takes. So in your opinion, how 123 00:08:16.519 --> 00:08:22.879 is the Masters's Golf Association evolves since its inception? Yeah, it's I'd say 124 00:08:22.920 --> 00:08:28.160 we've professionalized. We've grown tremendously. You know. I even for my time 125 00:08:28.560 --> 00:08:31.120 within the organization, I feel we were this mom and pop organization. Yeah, 126 00:08:33.000 --> 00:08:35.360 you know a little bit I'm gonna say fraternal in a way. But 127 00:08:35.480 --> 00:08:39.399 now I feel we're a community based organization that serves any golfer, no matter 128 00:08:39.440 --> 00:08:45.399 how they want to engage a lot of that speaks to a merger that we 129 00:08:46.159 --> 00:08:50.840 UH successfully accomplished back in twenty eighteen, So the Massachusetts Golf Association and the 130 00:08:50.879 --> 00:08:56.200 Women's Golf Association Massachusetts. We merged both organizations, two one hundred year old 131 00:08:56.320 --> 00:09:01.840 organizations into one with the intent to be of service to any again, any 132 00:09:01.840 --> 00:09:05.080 golferline operation. And that's also doing because in the golf world that really didn't 133 00:09:05.080 --> 00:09:09.159 happen before. No, no, there was. It was a bit segmentary, 134 00:09:09.360 --> 00:09:13.080 and you know, call it territorial, but you know, six years 135 00:09:13.080 --> 00:09:16.399 in, it's it's made us a strong organization and I think more visible. 136 00:09:16.519 --> 00:09:20.480 Yeah, I'm stay stumble. You listen to w BZ News Radio ten thirty 137 00:09:20.519 --> 00:09:24.519 and we'll be right back. Sponsored by Flora Decor, National Lumber and Village 138 00:09:24.519 --> 00:09:41.120 Bank. Wo and welcome back to Tough His Nails on w BZ News Radio 139 00:09:41.159 --> 00:09:45.639 ten thirty. And I'm here with Angelina and the Star Child Chad, the 140 00:09:45.679 --> 00:09:48.600 Star Chad go ahead, and Jesse MONOCKELM all right, So Jesse knows Chad. 141 00:09:48.679 --> 00:09:52.840 Chad knows Jesse. Chad played golf amateur, went to Europe, you 142 00:09:54.000 --> 00:09:58.320 played for the European Tour, left Massachusetts, went moved to Florida and still 143 00:09:58.360 --> 00:10:03.559 played the mass events up until COVID. Yep. And I'm coming back and 144 00:10:03.799 --> 00:10:05.919 hopefully we have a great summer because I know the events are awesome. But 145 00:10:07.000 --> 00:10:09.679 now let's get back to this. You will not see me out there for 146 00:10:09.759 --> 00:10:11.039 dinner. No, no, no, because last year up there, hold 147 00:10:11.039 --> 00:10:13.799 on, hold on, you forget. I was leaving. The friends that 148 00:10:13.840 --> 00:10:16.480 we met with us was the sixty six. Did you hear she had got 149 00:10:16.639 --> 00:10:18.759 kicked out the termin almost she had to write a letter to you guys. 150 00:10:18.080 --> 00:10:26.159 Did you know what happened the going out this this Charles River? Oh, 151 00:10:26.200 --> 00:10:28.519 I was so pissed them. I had the woman that helped me raise Chad 152 00:10:28.559 --> 00:10:33.799 and she had cancer in the cart and this kid made such a big deal 153 00:10:33.840 --> 00:10:39.200 about it, and I asked for permission pro but there was a kid and 154 00:10:39.240 --> 00:10:41.879 then he went to the head. I don't I don't care. So they 155 00:10:41.919 --> 00:10:43.639 found us out there and they said you can't have a cart, and I'm 156 00:10:43.639 --> 00:10:48.440 like, this is like the closest thing to Chad besides me being his mom, 157 00:10:48.519 --> 00:10:54.320 is the second mom. It wasn't there and it was nice, came 158 00:10:54.360 --> 00:10:58.200 out. I was nice until they said she still can't be here and I'm 159 00:10:58.200 --> 00:11:01.200 like, wow, this is this is like terrible, right. So I 160 00:11:01.279 --> 00:11:05.000 knew the kid said, Jesse, SI you out there. He's actually told 161 00:11:05.000 --> 00:11:09.279 you put your phone down a couple of times. So I pulled up into 162 00:11:09.360 --> 00:11:13.080 the ghost shop and I said, you had to start this, didn't you. 163 00:11:13.519 --> 00:11:15.159 I said, well, let me tell you something. You started with 164 00:11:15.159 --> 00:11:16.639 the wrong woman. And then all of a sudden, that night, I'm 165 00:11:16.679 --> 00:11:20.159 getting finned. I walk off the eighteenth Green just happy as hell. I 166 00:11:20.200 --> 00:11:24.039 just shot six under. I'm going at it with Herbie and my dad calls 167 00:11:24.039 --> 00:11:24.519 me. He goes, cheat, I don't think you play tomorrow. I 168 00:11:24.559 --> 00:11:28.360 go, what do you mean? I go, I go ahead, didn't 169 00:11:28.399 --> 00:11:31.480 do anything. I'm thinking, like, did I dismiss a dibbit or something 170 00:11:31.519 --> 00:11:33.519 like? What's going on? He goes your mother? I go, what 171 00:11:33.600 --> 00:11:37.399 the hell did she do? And then I heard the story. I go, 172 00:11:37.480 --> 00:11:39.480 oh God, I go, she's not gonna write the letter. I'm 173 00:11:39.480 --> 00:11:41.960 gonna have to write this. I end writing a letter that I know. 174 00:11:41.080 --> 00:11:45.919 I wrote a letter and I sent it and I think FITZI wrote the letter 175 00:11:45.919 --> 00:11:48.200 and then I signed it and sent it. I'm like, I'm not apologizing. 176 00:11:48.320 --> 00:11:52.360 I keep everything. You have to apologize to challenge. I apologize. 177 00:11:52.360 --> 00:11:56.399 So that that's my crazy story. I maybe had a couple more crazy stories 178 00:11:56.399 --> 00:11:58.399 out there. Oh in the US opened a couple of times. Your phone's 179 00:11:58.440 --> 00:12:01.879 just ringing, and it's always on the par fourards at whole number three with 180 00:12:03.519 --> 00:12:07.759 where the bunker in the front at Pine Hills, and then it goes down 181 00:12:07.840 --> 00:12:09.720 to part four of the water on the right. Meanwhile there's ten of us 182 00:12:09.720 --> 00:12:13.440 with shat a Pine Hills. Her phone's going. I do remember there's always 183 00:12:13.440 --> 00:12:18.039 like, yeah, always there was a pretty good group. Always not because 184 00:12:18.039 --> 00:12:24.399 it would be it would be my caddie Mic and my dad does she had 185 00:12:24.399 --> 00:12:28.080 to come. She can't drive alone. So be three people, four people 186 00:12:28.159 --> 00:12:30.879 and they just don't know any golf edit, you know. And then Steve 187 00:12:30.960 --> 00:12:33.039 and all your buddies show up like you always had like ten twelve people up 188 00:12:33.080 --> 00:12:35.759 there. But go ahead, but they're not stressful to have out there. 189 00:12:37.480 --> 00:12:41.879 But all right, let's go back to the Mask Association. How's it evolved? 190 00:12:43.440 --> 00:12:46.600 Yeah, so I would evolve from where from where you were a kid 191 00:12:46.720 --> 00:12:50.720 to now from actually let's go from your start from when you started with the 192 00:12:50.759 --> 00:12:54.240 mask off today. Well, again, I would say we've grown in stature. 193 00:12:54.360 --> 00:13:00.759 We've grown, you know, from a volunteer based organization now with a 194 00:13:00.879 --> 00:13:03.360 staff of about twenty seven. You know, when I started, we had 195 00:13:03.360 --> 00:13:07.679 a staff of about eight, very reliant on our volunteer network to you know, 196 00:13:07.759 --> 00:13:11.200 really run the organization and be the front face of the organization. You 197 00:13:11.240 --> 00:13:16.559 know, as technologies evolved, as the games evolved, services, et cetera. 198 00:13:16.799 --> 00:13:18.840 You know, we need to support our golfers and our clubs in a 199 00:13:18.840 --> 00:13:24.639 different way. So we still very much rely on volunteers, but there's a 200 00:13:24.639 --> 00:13:28.720 machine now behind the operation. We're over one hundred year old organization, so 201 00:13:28.799 --> 00:13:33.960 we were established in nineteen hundred. You know, early on, right, 202 00:13:33.000 --> 00:13:37.039 the likes of Donald Ross Francis we met. I mean, these are the 203 00:13:37.120 --> 00:13:41.639 legends within the game, not just here in Massachusetts but beyond, and you 204 00:13:41.639 --> 00:13:43.440 know they're kind of the foundation of golf here in the state. Then you 205 00:13:43.480 --> 00:13:48.320 go to the likes of Pat Bradley and moving on to the Frank Vanas and 206 00:13:48.480 --> 00:13:54.159 Marie Tobns, Harry McCracken. Right, Ryah, another ambassador of the game. 207 00:13:54.279 --> 00:13:58.120 So it's important that wed I mess him. He was a legend, 208 00:13:58.159 --> 00:14:01.679 he was a good friend and to me, oh yeah, good role model 209 00:14:01.720 --> 00:14:05.240 all that. But you know, it's important for us that we you know, 210 00:14:05.360 --> 00:14:09.799 honor respect the traditions of it. But how do we continue to evolve 211 00:14:09.919 --> 00:14:15.960 as an organization and making sure that we sustain this game long term? Well, 212 00:14:16.039 --> 00:14:18.159 keep the tradition. I like that. And now so with evolving, 213 00:14:18.960 --> 00:14:22.840 Now, you said you joined with the Women's League and all that. Are 214 00:14:22.879 --> 00:14:26.440 there any co ed events for the listeners out there where you know, say 215 00:14:26.440 --> 00:14:30.320 a boyfriend and girlfriend, husband and wife are two good golfers, they want 216 00:14:30.320 --> 00:14:33.240 to link up and play a tournament. Do you guys offer that? Yeah, 217 00:14:33.279 --> 00:14:35.799 absolutely, we have a handful of them, and actually one of them 218 00:14:35.960 --> 00:14:41.360 has become a mixed four ball championship. So this was something new for the 219 00:14:41.440 --> 00:14:45.519 organization. Once we merged, we felt, is there an opportunity to bring 220 00:14:45.559 --> 00:14:48.679 our top players from the male side the female side and have them merge together. 221 00:14:50.159 --> 00:14:52.919 You see combinations of Matt parzy Ally and Shannon Johnson, two of our 222 00:14:52.919 --> 00:15:00.919 best players nationally pairing up as a team, Herbie Aikins and Megan b Sue 223 00:15:01.000 --> 00:15:05.360 curtain Frank Vanna. You know, in a very natural way, this became 224 00:15:05.879 --> 00:15:09.279 really a stable calendar and it just took off. So it's partnering up a 225 00:15:09.320 --> 00:15:13.240 female and the male. Yeah, which has never really never happened because honestly, 226 00:15:13.279 --> 00:15:18.440 female weren't really a lot of golf courses to when it probably depends what 227 00:15:18.480 --> 00:15:24.559 part of the country or the mass mass was late late, yeah, relatively. 228 00:15:24.639 --> 00:15:28.879 Yeah, mass is real old traditional golf coy. I remember even at 229 00:15:28.919 --> 00:15:31.279 Spring Valua when we first longed to Spring Valley, I was in my early 230 00:15:31.320 --> 00:15:35.399 twenties. I was twenty three. Dad could go out there early. We 231 00:15:35.399 --> 00:15:39.600 got to look four o'clock. No, no, no, like twelve one 232 00:15:39.600 --> 00:15:41.399 o'clock after lunch. The women could go out there and play. I think 233 00:15:41.440 --> 00:15:45.919 you'll find a lot of that type of policy is still there. No, 234 00:15:46.080 --> 00:15:50.840 it's gone six that is faded, and there were some clubs that you couldn't 235 00:15:50.840 --> 00:15:54.960 even bring your kids to the country club. I mean, you want to 236 00:15:54.960 --> 00:15:56.720 talk about down south, they still have some of their ways with their clubs 237 00:15:56.720 --> 00:16:00.559 and stuff. Oh no, we're in Massachusetts. Yeah, even we're airing 238 00:16:00.679 --> 00:16:04.000 in thirty seven states, we're in Massachusetts. So we'll stay with the mask 239 00:16:04.039 --> 00:16:10.559 because yeah we do. But and specifically stand this show right now, we're 240 00:16:10.600 --> 00:16:14.000 able to champion, you know, the women's game and having events like this 241 00:16:14.200 --> 00:16:17.840 So I have a question like who would Lexi Thompson, Lexi and Chad go 242 00:16:17.919 --> 00:16:22.320 back to kids? Very close to no, but who would they partner her 243 00:16:22.399 --> 00:16:26.960 up with if she wanted to play? You choose? So I would play 244 00:16:26.960 --> 00:16:30.879 with Lexi, but I can't because she's a professional. There's actually on the 245 00:16:30.879 --> 00:16:34.080 professional tours, there's some I think behind the scenes discussion as to a mixed, 246 00:16:34.120 --> 00:16:37.480 a potential mixed. It hasn't got to that level yet. Didn't they 247 00:16:37.480 --> 00:16:41.600 just do some small event where they said two and two? They did? 248 00:16:41.639 --> 00:16:45.120 Lexi played with uh yeah, down in Florida. Yeah, yeah, the 249 00:16:45.159 --> 00:16:48.720 match, yeah, the master happened. Yeah. But isn't she playing on 250 00:16:48.759 --> 00:16:52.240 the PGA Men's No, she played one event I think most recently. That's 251 00:16:52.279 --> 00:16:56.200 right. Yeah, she's exclusively on the LPGA tour. But I think she 252 00:16:56.279 --> 00:16:59.120 had a sponsor exemption to a PGA tour. And let me tell you, 253 00:16:59.200 --> 00:17:03.799 she kept up. Have you met many women that can play absolutely better than 254 00:17:04.079 --> 00:17:07.680 put In on the same tea, Well, let me give you an example. 255 00:17:07.440 --> 00:17:11.920 I mentioned Shannon Johnson a few minutes ago. So Shannon won the US 256 00:17:11.039 --> 00:17:15.799 Women's mid Am just a couple of years ago, and she has signed up 257 00:17:15.799 --> 00:17:21.319 and played in several predominantly male events of ours, call it our mid Am 258 00:17:21.400 --> 00:17:26.920 Championship. Successfully competed in that event. She qualified for it. You had 259 00:17:26.960 --> 00:17:33.960 Mollie Smith compete in the Mass Amateur last year, which and howl. So 260 00:17:33.039 --> 00:17:37.440 Molly's in college now she's a freshman in college. Shannon is, Uh, 261 00:17:37.640 --> 00:17:42.319 she's a mid am probably late thirties. So they're there are They're out there, 262 00:17:42.400 --> 00:17:52.160 and they can definitely compete, but they can't play on the PGA Men's 263 00:17:52.720 --> 00:17:56.519 They have to again Lexi, Lexi did play, so there's the ability to 264 00:17:56.599 --> 00:17:59.359 play. Is she the first one to play on the men's I don't know. 265 00:17:59.480 --> 00:18:06.960 I don't think she is. Then we shall we play the male event. 266 00:18:07.000 --> 00:18:10.200 Yeah, I can't remember off hand, but I know I mean we 267 00:18:10.240 --> 00:18:12.920 played in the women's amateur public links. Yeah. Right, Well, then 268 00:18:12.920 --> 00:18:17.920 I have a female question here. I'm gonna ask the hard questions. I 269 00:18:17.920 --> 00:18:22.640 always ask the hard questions, Right, why do male golfers make more money 270 00:18:22.680 --> 00:18:25.920 than female golfers? In your opinion or you don't have an opinion, that's 271 00:18:25.960 --> 00:18:30.599 a good one. Now that's well, I think you're starting to see that 272 00:18:30.680 --> 00:18:36.160 shift a bit. You know, you're seeing the US Women's opens perse increase. 273 00:18:36.200 --> 00:18:38.160 I think it's getting up to twelve million dollars. And what's the men's 274 00:18:38.559 --> 00:18:41.720 uh, I can't remember off the top of my head. It might be 275 00:18:42.559 --> 00:18:47.359 it might be in the around twenty thereabouts. Yeah, you know. Then 276 00:18:47.640 --> 00:18:51.880 I guess the argument might be eyeballs and awareness and and they like to watch 277 00:18:51.920 --> 00:18:56.559 the men's better. I mean, that's it. It comes down to. 278 00:18:56.640 --> 00:19:00.799 It comes down to sponsorship, pay advertise. That's what it comes down. 279 00:19:00.880 --> 00:19:03.920 So, yep, it's okay women, you can't complain. We've come a 280 00:19:03.920 --> 00:19:07.559 long way. But actually no, but it's it's upcoming. I think things 281 00:19:07.599 --> 00:19:11.079 are changing quite rapidly. Rapid Yeah, and now do you see any and 282 00:19:11.200 --> 00:19:15.279 that's kind of hard, but actually we come back to that. All right, 283 00:19:15.319 --> 00:19:17.720 we'll hold that thought. We're going to break chat and we'll let you 284 00:19:17.759 --> 00:19:19.880 take back. Go with chet, I'm Citty stumbling you Listen Tough His Nails 285 00:19:19.920 --> 00:19:26.279 on w b Z News Radio ten thirty right sponsored by Pellow Windows of Boston, 286 00:19:26.519 --> 00:19:45.839 Next Day Molding and Kennedy Carpet Came, One City King Came Back the 287 00:19:45.839 --> 00:20:03.440 World. Listen and welcome back to Toughest Nails on wbc Who's Radio ten thirty 288 00:20:03.480 --> 00:20:07.279 and I'm City Stumple and I'm here with Angelina quiet one. Chad Stumpo. 289 00:20:07.720 --> 00:20:11.240 Chad's got a lot to say today. I'm not Okay, there you go. 290 00:20:11.359 --> 00:20:15.039 I'm backing off of this one because these are the golfers, right. 291 00:20:15.079 --> 00:20:17.720 I know when it's my lane. I know when I'm off I ninety five. 292 00:20:18.160 --> 00:20:21.240 I'm not on I ninety five. I'm not on driver, I'm on 293 00:20:21.319 --> 00:20:23.680 he sed I'm I'm in the cast seat. Okay, go ahead, boys. 294 00:20:23.880 --> 00:20:27.640 She's like happy Gilmore comes. I'm happy Gilmore comes to golf. Just 295 00:20:27.720 --> 00:20:33.119 destructive. That's a good thing, all right, Jesse. So another question 296 00:20:33.200 --> 00:20:40.119 I have. What initiatives or programs has a Masschosists Golf Association undertaken to promote 297 00:20:40.119 --> 00:20:42.799 the sport and foster community engagement. Yeah, we are a five and one 298 00:20:42.880 --> 00:20:47.720 C three charity and we've been and what's the five O one C. I 299 00:20:47.759 --> 00:20:52.720 mean, we're a nonprofit organization and our development arm is ultimately around junior golf 300 00:20:52.960 --> 00:21:00.480 and we've been a champion of first t National program under the PGA Tours umbrella. 301 00:21:00.599 --> 00:21:03.559 This is an opportunity for us to bring young kids into the game, 302 00:21:03.640 --> 00:21:07.519 but teach them core values of life. And skills and really to be great 303 00:21:07.559 --> 00:21:11.359 people long term, and we get them on the golf course through instruction, 304 00:21:12.400 --> 00:21:15.720 through coaching, and what have you. And we're twenty years in. We 305 00:21:15.759 --> 00:21:22.160 are hugely proud of this program serving all of Massachusetts. And on top of 306 00:21:22.200 --> 00:21:25.680 that, another program that's a little bit newer for us, it's called Youth 307 00:21:25.720 --> 00:21:30.359 on Course, and we feel this program complements the first t as it's an 308 00:21:30.359 --> 00:21:33.240 opportunity to get kids on the golf course where they pay no more than five 309 00:21:33.279 --> 00:21:37.880 dollars per round and we subsidize the balance of that round at any facility that 310 00:21:37.920 --> 00:21:41.839 they participate at. So it's a way to get these kids on the golf 311 00:21:41.880 --> 00:21:44.880 course, to make it accessible, yep, and affordable. One of the 312 00:21:44.920 --> 00:21:48.680 big challenges that we face as an industry. Golf can be expensive in certain 313 00:21:48.720 --> 00:21:52.480 markets, right, and we want to make sure that we're getting more kids 314 00:21:52.519 --> 00:21:55.519 in a game, that it's affordable to them their families, and that there's 315 00:21:55.519 --> 00:21:59.599 no barrier to entry. And now do you think with all that, do 316 00:21:59.640 --> 00:22:03.039 you think with bringing these kids in a young age teach them, they're also 317 00:22:03.119 --> 00:22:07.359 learning life lessons through this game and morals that which kind of our country is 318 00:22:07.400 --> 00:22:10.799 kind of lacking right now, we do you think the game of golf teaches 319 00:22:10.799 --> 00:22:15.559 that, you know, that's that's really the foundation of first tea, right, 320 00:22:15.279 --> 00:22:18.759 But think about it. You know, whether you're you're playing caddying the 321 00:22:18.799 --> 00:22:22.079 people that you're with, the etiquette that you're learning on the golf course. 322 00:22:22.279 --> 00:22:26.920 You know, respect, integrity, honesty, perseverance, all these values right 323 00:22:26.920 --> 00:22:32.319 that are going to help you in your career. Accountability, No, I 324 00:22:32.440 --> 00:22:36.279 have. Let me tell you, it comes back to you. One thing. 325 00:22:36.440 --> 00:22:38.920 I would one thing about Chad. He would never lie on his and 326 00:22:38.960 --> 00:22:41.079 I'd say to his father, everybody else is lying, why isn't he? 327 00:22:42.359 --> 00:22:45.920 And Joe would say that's not a gentleman sport, that's right. And I 328 00:22:45.960 --> 00:22:51.079 remember Joe saying that accountable if he ever threw his club, Oh my god, 329 00:22:52.799 --> 00:22:56.799 Oh no, Joe is going to go like, I'm walking your club, 330 00:22:56.319 --> 00:23:00.359 and don't you ever cheat on your score like they played for my bank, 331 00:23:00.480 --> 00:23:07.200 Village bank, like they use those guys just like all the time. 332 00:23:07.680 --> 00:23:14.519 Completely a completely different world. He completely different. I'm talking about that world. 333 00:23:14.559 --> 00:23:17.599 I want to tell all you male golfers that get up there and lie 334 00:23:17.920 --> 00:23:21.519 and you put those scores that you really didn't hit those scores, you're liars. 335 00:23:21.599 --> 00:23:25.440 You collect the gifts, and you should feel guilty because that's like not 336 00:23:25.480 --> 00:23:29.160 even impossible. That comes out when you play with the actual person about this 337 00:23:29.160 --> 00:23:33.480 one. They're playing and chat shoots a hole in one right, like like 338 00:23:33.640 --> 00:23:37.119 they brought a score that was crazy, and I'm like the president my bank, 339 00:23:37.160 --> 00:23:38.640 I'm like, how how did they? I shot sixty two that day 340 00:23:38.680 --> 00:23:45.200 and we lost? Because how can these kids? I have my stupid question. 341 00:23:45.160 --> 00:23:48.920 It's like only asked stupid questions that comes off. Can these kids cheat 342 00:23:49.039 --> 00:23:53.680 without you guys knowing it? Hot? Well, let's let's so so Chad 343 00:23:53.759 --> 00:23:56.720 knows, right, he's played, I played numerous events. You know, 344 00:23:57.799 --> 00:24:02.400 yes, yes she can, and I've seen it done firsthand. But then 345 00:24:02.400 --> 00:24:04.279 I've also seen it catch up to you. But let's talk about why. 346 00:24:04.319 --> 00:24:07.960 It's a little easier than the pros. So, yes, you have a 347 00:24:07.000 --> 00:24:11.079 marker at the amateur level, but you only have one you got. It's 348 00:24:11.079 --> 00:24:15.680 an honor system, it really is. You got to be truthful and you 349 00:24:15.720 --> 00:24:18.160 know you play the same ball. You can't change. You have to say 350 00:24:18.200 --> 00:24:21.480 the same market. You have to find that ball. There's kids out here. 351 00:24:21.480 --> 00:24:22.839 You go in the woods and it takes two seconds to you know, 352 00:24:23.160 --> 00:24:26.119 drop a ball. Some kids maybe get a little foot edge just to get 353 00:24:26.119 --> 00:24:30.319 a little fluffly and then the catch it or you don't, I mean, 354 00:24:30.519 --> 00:24:33.400 you kind of don't want to be, you know, that person to catch 355 00:24:33.480 --> 00:24:37.640 them because then the conversation will happen. But yes, there's cheating that goes 356 00:24:37.680 --> 00:24:40.920 on at a lower level of golf, right chesse professional And when you catch 357 00:24:40.960 --> 00:24:44.799 these kids, what happens like do you say, like, well, hey, 358 00:24:44.839 --> 00:24:47.839 we're we're you know, a rules governing body, right, we've got 359 00:24:47.839 --> 00:24:51.319 to run an equitable competition or event for all the players that are in the 360 00:24:51.319 --> 00:24:55.039 field. It's likely that we're going to have a conversation with that player, 361 00:24:55.200 --> 00:24:57.640 maybe a parent, if they're a guardian, if they're around, and you 362 00:24:57.640 --> 00:25:02.920 know, at times maybe it's an education opportunity. But if you're in an 363 00:25:03.000 --> 00:25:07.640 amateur championship or you know, a mid am, it's a different different scenario. 364 00:25:07.799 --> 00:25:08.880 You know, if that were to happen, it's going to come to 365 00:25:08.960 --> 00:25:11.079 light. Oh let me tell you shape in the golf world, you'll be 366 00:25:11.160 --> 00:25:15.160 known and you don't want that name? Is that true, Chad? You 367 00:25:15.200 --> 00:25:17.440 just say that in the golf world, you don't want to be known as 368 00:25:17.480 --> 00:25:19.759 a cheater. Well, I mean in any in any way of life, 369 00:25:19.799 --> 00:25:23.839 in anyway that way. But it's a game of life, it really is. 370 00:25:25.000 --> 00:25:26.519 So when you guys go out there and you play these amateur events, 371 00:25:26.839 --> 00:25:30.000 isn't something in the golf cut with you most of the time you walk in. 372 00:25:30.119 --> 00:25:33.519 No, but you have one marker, you have officials out there, 373 00:25:33.559 --> 00:25:36.559 but it's you have trees. You catch one little thing. The guy times 374 00:25:36.599 --> 00:25:37.839 a right. Like you say, if I'm walking right behind you can't go 375 00:25:37.920 --> 00:25:41.119 behind, then you can't hear you. If you're away from the mic, 376 00:25:41.799 --> 00:25:44.920 Chad, we're not on TV anymore, one radio. If I just walked 377 00:25:44.960 --> 00:25:45.799 right behind him real quick, right, No, you can see you walking 378 00:25:45.799 --> 00:25:48.680 home. So if I walked right behind him for two seconds, like a 379 00:25:48.720 --> 00:25:52.880 second, I could drop a ball so fast you wouldn't even see it because 380 00:25:52.920 --> 00:25:55.759 the tree is covering you. Got it. So say he's a tree, 381 00:25:55.759 --> 00:25:57.079 I walked by him, you couldn't even see it. So it's the honest 382 00:25:57.079 --> 00:26:00.000 system being kept with the next generation kids, I would say it is. 383 00:26:00.079 --> 00:26:03.279 Yeah, we're doing as much as we can to educate it, to preach 384 00:26:03.319 --> 00:26:07.839 it. Hey, it's a part of the game. A father's out there 385 00:26:07.880 --> 00:26:11.279 as much as they used to be. Yes, I would say parents are 386 00:26:11.319 --> 00:26:14.920 out there quite a bit. We don't run a ton of junior events, 387 00:26:14.960 --> 00:26:18.119 but for those that we do, the parents are paying the club. We've 388 00:26:18.160 --> 00:26:22.319 got certain policies that keep would be us. Just your famous in the MGA, 389 00:26:23.519 --> 00:26:27.839 Thank you. I got to be famous for Rego. Okay, all 390 00:26:27.920 --> 00:26:33.000 right? So do you think the kids and again I'm gonna ask the dumb 391 00:26:33.079 --> 00:26:34.799 questions, not the hard questions, right because I'm a dummy in this game. 392 00:26:36.440 --> 00:26:38.440 Do you think having the parents out there cause more pressure on these kids 393 00:26:38.799 --> 00:26:44.240 than the kids were just out there having a good time playing In many cases, 394 00:26:44.319 --> 00:26:48.920 yes, I think it depends on on their presence, on you know, 395 00:26:48.960 --> 00:26:52.039 what they're doing. Are they being encouraging or relationship and the relationship right? 396 00:26:52.079 --> 00:26:55.480 And then what happens off the golf course? Right? Is it going 397 00:26:55.839 --> 00:26:56.880 blow by blow? This is what you did? Well? This is what 398 00:26:56.920 --> 00:27:03.119 you didn't or was it did you have fun out there? Sport? Right? 399 00:27:03.720 --> 00:27:06.880 Then? But there are kids that a father is that he had a 400 00:27:06.880 --> 00:27:10.039 father that was a scratch golfer. Sure, so it's not like he had 401 00:27:10.039 --> 00:27:12.319 a father that's was a country club golfer, you know, or no golfer. 402 00:27:12.839 --> 00:27:18.240 So of course his dad was going to give him honesty, but as 403 00:27:18.319 --> 00:27:22.279 had Timmy Tarney, who's like an older brother to me my whole life. 404 00:27:22.960 --> 00:27:26.359 And so he put a club in my hand three years old. There's a 405 00:27:26.880 --> 00:27:30.640 mentor there, right, Yeah, mentor your dad put the club in Timmy's 406 00:27:30.680 --> 00:27:33.640 here and you see how it went. Yeah, he was working for your 407 00:27:33.680 --> 00:27:36.519 dad as a lot boy. He came out of his HackMaster we used to 408 00:27:36.559 --> 00:27:38.680 call him, and Joe put the club in his hand. That's when he 409 00:27:38.720 --> 00:27:41.640 found in love of golf. And that's the beauty of the game. Yeah, 410 00:27:42.160 --> 00:27:48.079 exactly, exactly. So that was just my dumb question at all. 411 00:27:48.240 --> 00:27:51.240 You can go back to your smarty pant questions. Well, let me let 412 00:27:51.279 --> 00:27:55.079 me jump on the smarty pant question again. I mentioned first T and youth 413 00:27:55.160 --> 00:28:00.599 on course, but we're seeing another new initiative coming from the USGA. This 414 00:28:00.640 --> 00:28:04.960 is something from Mike wand the new CEO there. He was the former LPGA 415 00:28:04.960 --> 00:28:11.400 commissioner for about eleven years, but he recognized in his role as commission of 416 00:28:11.400 --> 00:28:14.400 the LPGA that there weren't a lot of Americans at the top of the leader 417 00:28:14.400 --> 00:28:18.920 board for LPGA events. That is true reason being we don't have a formal 418 00:28:18.599 --> 00:28:22.960 junior development program for golf. We have it for all other sports, right 419 00:28:22.200 --> 00:28:27.039 hockey, baseball, soccer. We have all these other countries that have a 420 00:28:27.079 --> 00:28:33.359 formalized program for golf. They have houses in Florida, Arizona where they bring 421 00:28:33.559 --> 00:28:37.519 and kind of raise these kids, teach them, develop them, provide different 422 00:28:37.519 --> 00:28:41.079 services that they might need to improve their game and develop in their game. 423 00:28:41.680 --> 00:28:48.039 So we are actually launching, We're one of seven pilot programs across the country 424 00:28:48.359 --> 00:28:52.920 to create Team Massachusetts, So a junior golf development initiative that we hope will 425 00:28:52.960 --> 00:28:57.279 bear fruit down the line. And perhaps you see a young girl from Massachusetts 426 00:28:57.319 --> 00:29:00.640 at the top of the or boy at the top of the leaderboard. And 427 00:29:00.680 --> 00:29:03.440 what do you think do you think you'll see in the female World's go to 428 00:29:03.519 --> 00:29:07.119 LPGA? Do you think you'll see more female American golfers out there? I 429 00:29:07.160 --> 00:29:11.079 do think after ten years, this is going to create a pipeline, you 430 00:29:11.160 --> 00:29:15.359 know, whether it's through high school golf, a j G, a USGA 431 00:29:15.440 --> 00:29:18.400 competition's college golf, and then hopefully at some time, you know, the 432 00:29:18.440 --> 00:29:23.400 tours. If things are successful, I would love to see it. Even 433 00:29:23.440 --> 00:29:26.720 though I played for Italy, I still love to see the United States too 434 00:29:26.720 --> 00:29:30.559 good. My producer is knocking me on the shoulders. That means I got 435 00:29:30.599 --> 00:29:33.559 to get off my phone because I can't keep it with a conversation and go 436 00:29:33.599 --> 00:29:37.720 off to break. Thank you. I'm Sinny Stompany. Listens WBZ News Radio 437 00:29:37.720 --> 00:29:41.319 ten thirty and We'll be right back, sponsored by new Brook Realty Group, 438 00:29:41.559 --> 00:30:00.119 Boston, would Smaller Insurance World Auto Body and Tosca Drive Auto Body. You 439 00:30:11.000 --> 00:30:21.880 made and welcome back to Toughest Nails on w b Z News Radio ten thirty 440 00:30:21.920 --> 00:30:26.799 And I'm City Stumpo and I'm here with Angelina, Chad and Jesse Monocle. 441 00:30:26.359 --> 00:30:32.039 Chad. You your last name? Yeah, your son usually what's your last 442 00:30:32.079 --> 00:30:34.640 name again? Grilla? No, it wasn't it was, It's stump She's 443 00:30:34.680 --> 00:30:38.079 not feisty anymore. Would you say it's going to be what would you say 444 00:30:38.200 --> 00:30:41.720 it's going to be Stumpo? Yes? Oh you sure about that? Very 445 00:30:41.759 --> 00:30:47.640 sure? Okay, I'll be the golf widow taker, you'll be the golfer. 446 00:30:47.759 --> 00:30:49.599 I'll be the golf widow, the golf widow. Ye, yes, 447 00:30:51.519 --> 00:30:55.359 I'll be divorced. You need to understand that, Yes, maybe it'll be 448 00:30:55.400 --> 00:30:57.680 a team. Yeah, I want to caddy for me, right, she's 449 00:30:57.880 --> 00:31:03.799 have We've seen that out in the PG to just watch. So let's get 450 00:31:03.839 --> 00:31:07.079 back to this listeners out there. I hope everyone's having a wonderful night. 451 00:31:07.839 --> 00:31:11.400 Actually my list is like to listen to see who my kids are dating and 452 00:31:11.440 --> 00:31:14.359 then they try to picture like what they We'll come back with the reality show 453 00:31:14.720 --> 00:31:17.799 you all back to TV. Never had it up. Honestly, I think 454 00:31:17.839 --> 00:31:22.920 I need one. But let's talk about how the game's evolving. And in 455 00:31:22.960 --> 00:31:25.960 my opinion, because I worked with First Team Miami Dade for a little while 456 00:31:26.599 --> 00:31:29.200 and I did a lot of work within the city kids, I brought my 457 00:31:29.200 --> 00:31:32.519 own clubs for them and stuff like that taught them. Do you see a 458 00:31:32.559 --> 00:31:34.559 lot more of that mass? Now? Still? Are you guys developing a 459 00:31:34.599 --> 00:31:37.799 program for that here? Do you guys have that? Yeah? Great question? 460 00:31:38.000 --> 00:31:41.920 And you know, again, as I spoke earlier with our first TEA 461 00:31:41.960 --> 00:31:45.440 program, that's where I'll put some focus and energy because the intent there is 462 00:31:47.079 --> 00:31:51.000 underserved communities. You know, where can we bring golf to those that need 463 00:31:51.039 --> 00:31:53.400 it that can't afford it too? First and foremost City of Boston has been 464 00:31:53.440 --> 00:31:57.480 a champion location for us. We've had our first tea program at Franklin Park 465 00:31:57.839 --> 00:32:01.640 since twenty fifteen and it's been hugely successful. You know, it's tied into 466 00:32:01.680 --> 00:32:06.359 parks and rec. Kids have an opportunity to participate in the program for free 467 00:32:07.759 --> 00:32:10.000 three seasons out of the year. On top of that, we're down in 468 00:32:10.200 --> 00:32:14.839 Brockton, We're at dw Field, which has been another home run. We're 469 00:32:14.880 --> 00:32:17.680 out in Springfield as well. So trying to put some like I said, 470 00:32:17.680 --> 00:32:22.000 some energy and focus in these parts of the states that really we want to 471 00:32:22.039 --> 00:32:25.119 see golf thrive. And you know, the municipalities, the parks and rec 472 00:32:25.160 --> 00:32:30.720 departments, they've all been hugely supportive and it's allowed our game to grow and 473 00:32:30.799 --> 00:32:35.799 thrive. And we're seeing these kids kind of graduate on become members of you 474 00:32:35.839 --> 00:32:40.400 know, our organization, competitors and certain events and seeing a ton of success 475 00:32:40.440 --> 00:32:45.240 from that. Yeah. Well, also one of my friends actually in Boston. 476 00:32:45.480 --> 00:32:46.759 Have you ever heard of urban Golf? I have, So that's one 477 00:32:46.759 --> 00:32:51.599 of my really good friends, pretty good. I did a little lesson last 478 00:32:51.680 --> 00:32:54.480 year with him in Franklin Park. Just love to see like all those inner 479 00:32:54.480 --> 00:32:58.640 city because they like it. But it's hard to focus them real quick, 480 00:32:58.640 --> 00:33:00.839 but once they get it, they all in love with it. And I 481 00:33:00.839 --> 00:33:02.519 mean, I don't know if you guys ever met, but i'd love to 482 00:33:02.519 --> 00:33:06.880 introduce you guys. Maybe I think you're speaking about Marcos. Yeah, Marcos, 483 00:33:06.920 --> 00:33:10.440 well, yeah, absolutely, Jesse. Where can parents find these programs? 484 00:33:12.920 --> 00:33:15.599 So you can start with our website at massolf dot org. You can 485 00:33:15.599 --> 00:33:22.519 also go to first Team mass and through those websites you can check out the 486 00:33:22.519 --> 00:33:27.200 programming, the scheduling. I mentioned three seasons out of the year. We 487 00:33:27.279 --> 00:33:31.559 also do have off season programming, so indoor clinics at boys and girls clubs, 488 00:33:31.680 --> 00:33:38.720 you know, gymnasiums, virtual golf as well. Right, so there's 489 00:33:38.839 --> 00:33:44.160 a ton of different options for them. That's awesome, all right. And 490 00:33:44.240 --> 00:33:46.799 with all that, with all the you know, the technology coming up. 491 00:33:47.519 --> 00:33:53.279 Yeah, can you how can you say, like has the technology impacted like 492 00:33:53.400 --> 00:34:00.000 the golf world it dramatically? You know, let's talk about question. That's 493 00:34:00.039 --> 00:34:05.160 okay, I got the interviewed. All my clients want golf simulas in the 494 00:34:05.200 --> 00:34:07.559 house. Everyone, it's it's hey, it's a way to keep the golf 495 00:34:07.559 --> 00:34:12.000 clib in your hand. Twelve months out of the technology get out of a 496 00:34:12.039 --> 00:34:15.159 golf simulator. You can, you absolutely can. And not only that, 497 00:34:15.199 --> 00:34:17.119 but you can get data right and it can you can analyze your swing and 498 00:34:17.159 --> 00:34:22.960 get feedback from coaches through video technology and you can see all your all your 499 00:34:22.960 --> 00:34:28.679 angles, you know, swing speeds, everything. So it's becoming tool. 500 00:34:28.800 --> 00:34:30.719 Even if you just have a net, you get a track, you can 501 00:34:30.760 --> 00:34:35.159 see everything on the computer. Come on these golf simulas I'm putting in houses 502 00:34:35.320 --> 00:34:39.239 Like yeah, I'm saying, if you want to got that putting green and 503 00:34:39.280 --> 00:34:43.639 the little cheaper side. I guess if you want a golf in the winter 504 00:34:43.719 --> 00:34:47.800 time? Do you think they're simulating golf? They're blowing up. I see 505 00:34:47.840 --> 00:34:52.480 them opening them up everywhere. Now we have we've seen league play you know 506 00:34:52.559 --> 00:34:54.880 where folks. You know it's there's also the social element too, right, 507 00:34:55.320 --> 00:35:00.039 whether it's your your top golf experience or uh is there the top golf is 508 00:35:00.360 --> 00:35:04.199 or are you outside playing on top of it? Why you're indoor lire heated 509 00:35:04.199 --> 00:35:08.440 base tape but you're hitting out indoor out door. And my last question, 510 00:35:08.519 --> 00:35:12.679 and I have no more, the rest is on you in chat. If 511 00:35:12.719 --> 00:35:16.280 one more person tells me. In my twenty year career with chat that golf 512 00:35:16.360 --> 00:35:20.159 is not a sport. Can I punch them in the eyeballs and like hold 513 00:35:20.239 --> 00:35:23.400 them? Yes? And then can I put my pants in your ears? 514 00:35:24.079 --> 00:35:28.840 Because to this day they still say it's not a sport. There's athletes the 515 00:35:28.920 --> 00:35:30.760 hardest. It's one of the hardest games. I think it's hardest. Is 516 00:35:30.800 --> 00:35:36.400 golf considered a sport? But thank you? I think that can be answered 517 00:35:36.400 --> 00:35:39.880 differently by how you engage with the game. Is it a sport or not? 518 00:35:40.079 --> 00:35:44.800 Absolutely? And how long have people been saying that it's not a sport 519 00:35:45.960 --> 00:35:50.639 until COVID, I think, well, I mean, just look at these 520 00:35:51.000 --> 00:35:53.840 athletes right on the LPGA or PGA. No, look at the athletes at 521 00:35:53.840 --> 00:36:00.280 all. One of the NBA players based you know, baseball basketball think they 522 00:36:00.280 --> 00:36:02.960 could hit the ball, couldn't hit the easy. He couldn't even touch it. 523 00:36:02.960 --> 00:36:05.480 And I finally got him hit it. He was hit a seven, 524 00:36:05.559 --> 00:36:08.239 nine, one fifty. But all my addicted, all my athletes that live 525 00:36:08.280 --> 00:36:12.239 in my homes, they always say, can chat teach me? Can chatt 526 00:36:12.280 --> 00:36:15.960 teach me? Because they think it's a sport. Thinks it's a sport. 527 00:36:16.079 --> 00:36:20.400 I think about it too post post career. If they're an NBA player or 528 00:36:20.519 --> 00:36:23.400 NFL player. Right, they're not playing these sports until they're fifty years old. 529 00:36:23.639 --> 00:36:27.239 They need a competitive atmosphere. How do they get that competitive outlet? 530 00:36:27.280 --> 00:36:30.480 And golf becomes for a lot of them. Yeah, Like I played with 531 00:36:30.519 --> 00:36:32.519 Lawrence all the time in Florida. Man, he just loves competing. He 532 00:36:32.639 --> 00:36:37.360 just came out that mental state. They just love to compete. You know 533 00:36:37.400 --> 00:36:39.480 a couple of NBA players that were in the bubble back in the pandemic right 534 00:36:39.679 --> 00:36:43.840 Orlando. They had a lot of time in between their games. They were 535 00:36:43.920 --> 00:36:47.000 this this fraternity where they really couldn't go anywhere. They were eating together. 536 00:36:47.480 --> 00:36:52.760 There were golf courses in that facility Gate. All they would do is play 537 00:36:52.800 --> 00:36:54.599 golfer. And the guys are young. But when the Ryder Cup came to 538 00:36:54.679 --> 00:37:00.880 the country club, Michael Jordan was in town, cam they that was with 539 00:37:00.920 --> 00:37:04.199 all of them hanging out like they were playing, they were watching. Then 540 00:37:04.199 --> 00:37:06.400 they would play their own games and they were having a ball. Yeah. 541 00:37:06.400 --> 00:37:12.800 Who fell off the balcony that year because he got so drunk. I will 542 00:37:12.840 --> 00:37:16.440 not say I keep that one. There's certain things I can't discuss, But 543 00:37:17.119 --> 00:37:22.079 I just want to say this because a lot of people say this, golf 544 00:37:22.119 --> 00:37:24.199 is not a sport. Have we said now, golf is a sport? 545 00:37:24.760 --> 00:37:29.599 Yes, okay, RD Golf's a sport. If anyone wants to argue that, 546 00:37:29.639 --> 00:37:32.000 go pick up a golf club, yeah and go shoot. Yeah, 547 00:37:32.079 --> 00:37:35.599 let me know if you can make a bird or a par I just I 548 00:37:35.599 --> 00:37:37.679 think you got to look at you know, the best players in the world 549 00:37:37.679 --> 00:37:39.880 and how they train and how they prepare themselves to be the best in the 550 00:37:39.880 --> 00:37:43.440 world. Right, it looks a lot different than it did years ago. 551 00:37:43.440 --> 00:37:45.840 Oh yeah, now everyone's at shay. It's a full times it's a full 552 00:37:45.840 --> 00:37:50.199 time job, it is. I have another dumb question. Sorry, this 553 00:37:50.239 --> 00:37:52.679 will be my last dumb work, I promised, Like, I'm sorry. 554 00:37:52.400 --> 00:37:55.400 We're out here hitting balls to our hands are bleeding. That's how much you 555 00:37:55.400 --> 00:38:00.440 have to practice. Did Tiger Woods change this game forever being one of the 556 00:38:00.480 --> 00:38:04.159 youngest guys to come out there and play the way he played. Yeah, 557 00:38:04.519 --> 00:38:07.519 you know at that time, he made it relevant for the next generation. 558 00:38:07.639 --> 00:38:13.599 Yep, no one worked out he started that. Okay, I'm done with 559 00:38:13.639 --> 00:38:16.920 my dumb questions. You know the pandemic, right, it was an unfortunate 560 00:38:17.000 --> 00:38:21.280 time, but great time for the golf. Well, it was a boon 561 00:38:21.320 --> 00:38:23.920 for the industry. It absolutely was, and I think it became relevant once 562 00:38:23.960 --> 00:38:28.280 again. I think there's been some changes, and I think this is why 563 00:38:28.360 --> 00:38:31.119 people don't want to go They want to do this. Don't go to work, 564 00:38:31.159 --> 00:38:32.960 go to work thing. Don't want to go to the office because they 565 00:38:34.079 --> 00:38:36.599 go to play golf. Okay, yeah, they' bring to laptops so there 566 00:38:36.719 --> 00:38:38.760 they do zoom calls. Yeah, I think you're seeing more rounds early in 567 00:38:38.760 --> 00:38:43.960 the morning and then more rounds at four o'clock in the afternoon than I agree. 568 00:38:44.000 --> 00:38:46.800 They're getting their licks in right, all right, So let's get back 569 00:38:46.840 --> 00:38:51.480 to this. What are some unique characteristics or features? A little dumb question? 570 00:38:51.519 --> 00:38:57.360 No, stupid question. Good, I have another one. I'll play 571 00:38:57.400 --> 00:39:04.559 it. No, I'm all done with my dumb questions to payroll. What 572 00:39:04.679 --> 00:39:09.519 are some unique characteristics or features of golf culture in Massachusetts compared to the other 573 00:39:09.559 --> 00:39:14.480 regions. So a couple things. Uh. One, I would start that 574 00:39:15.639 --> 00:39:21.239 two thirds of the facilities in Massachusetts are publicly accessible. So I think that's 575 00:39:21.320 --> 00:39:23.480 that's something we should champion, right, anyone can get on these facilities and 576 00:39:23.559 --> 00:39:28.760 enjoy the game. On top of that, let's talk about the territory of 577 00:39:28.800 --> 00:39:32.440 the state. Right, you go from Cape Cod, you know some tourists 578 00:39:32.480 --> 00:39:39.840 type attractions all the way to Western mass You've got two very different experiences. 579 00:39:40.119 --> 00:39:47.920 Exactly in between, we've got a plethora of nine hole venues. And to 580 00:39:49.000 --> 00:39:53.280 me, I think a nine hole venue allows for, you know, an 581 00:39:53.320 --> 00:39:58.519 easy way for folks to bake golf into their lifestyle. Right. It's a 582 00:39:58.559 --> 00:40:02.000 shorter experience, a little less intimidating in some respects. You can fit into 583 00:40:02.000 --> 00:40:06.920 your schedule whether you're you know, a working parent, right, You've you've 584 00:40:06.920 --> 00:40:08.679 got to juggle kids activities. Yet an hour and a half, an hour 585 00:40:08.679 --> 00:40:12.360 and a half go play night holes right now? For the listeners out there, 586 00:40:12.480 --> 00:40:14.519 where are a lot of these night whole courses? How about this? 587 00:40:14.639 --> 00:40:16.159 I gotta step in hold. I thought we're going to break on Cidney Stump 588 00:40:16.239 --> 00:40:25.719 and he listens to WBZ News Radio ten thirty. It'll be right back to 589 00:40:20.239 --> 00:40:35.800 you. Yeah, it's me again, would you know? And welcome back 590 00:40:35.840 --> 00:40:39.800 to Toughest Nails on WBZ News Radio ten thirty And I'm City STUMPO. I 591 00:40:39.800 --> 00:40:43.880 got another dumb question, Jess. We have too much to cover it, 592 00:40:44.360 --> 00:40:46.719 Okay, can you just come back next weekend so we can do a two 593 00:40:46.719 --> 00:40:50.440 part of here. Just make sure it's not seventy five degrees and sunny. 594 00:40:50.960 --> 00:40:52.719 Okay, it won't be, I promise, because I might be on the 595 00:40:52.719 --> 00:40:57.039 golf course with you. No, you won't be eight o'clock at night. 596 00:40:57.360 --> 00:40:59.519 You're not on the golf course eight o'clock. Yes, you are, actually 597 00:41:00.079 --> 00:41:04.159 all right. I can get on you absolutely boom. How do people get 598 00:41:04.159 --> 00:41:07.360 in touch you, Jesse Fast, our website maskolf dot org, or on 599 00:41:07.440 --> 00:41:12.320 social playmask golf. Repeat that, maskolf dot org. Our website and our 600 00:41:12.320 --> 00:41:16.000 social handles, play mask golf. One more time, maskolf dot org and 601 00:41:16.079 --> 00:41:20.440 our social handles play mask golf. And if you didn't get that, then 602 00:41:20.440 --> 00:41:22.199 I don't know what's wrong with you. People, have a great, safe 603 00:41:22.239 --> 00:41:27.400 weekend, and I'll see you next weekend. This is Cindy Stumpo toughes Nails 604 00:41:27.440 --> 00:41:29.000 WBZ News, raded ten thirty