WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.120 --> 00:00:03.759 For thirty five years, Cindy Stumpo has been a female home builder with a 2 00:00:03.799 --> 00:00:07.839 passion for design, a mastery of detail, and a commitment to her crack. 3 00:00:07.919 --> 00:00:11.279 With daughter Samantha Stumpo by her side, I don't need my whole family 4 00:00:11.320 --> 00:00:13.679 on a date with me. That's a good note. It's godemn weird. 5 00:00:13.759 --> 00:00:18.480 See. Stumpo Development is the only second generation female construction company in the country. 6 00:00:18.600 --> 00:00:22.960 You're crazy, You're a wacko, You're insane. I mean, it 7 00:00:23.079 --> 00:00:27.320 just doesn't end together. Cindy and Samantha welcome guests to explore the world of 8 00:00:27.399 --> 00:00:32.000 construction, real estate, development, design and more. Unpredictable. Every time 9 00:00:32.039 --> 00:00:34.240 I think I know what you want, you'd switch it out. But that's 10 00:00:34.240 --> 00:00:38.119 what makes sure houses all your day discuss anything that happens between the roof and 11 00:00:38.159 --> 00:00:41.920 the foundation. Nothing is off limits. You truly do care about everybody. 12 00:00:41.960 --> 00:00:44.640 She can yell at chicken scream, but when you get her alone, she's 13 00:00:44.679 --> 00:00:54.159 the best person on the planet. Cindy Stumpo is tough as nails and welcome 14 00:00:54.159 --> 00:00:58.880 to Cindy Stumbo Toughest Nails on WBZ News Radio ten thirty and again, I'm 15 00:00:58.880 --> 00:01:03.079 winning the studio with come on, Angelina, you learn here Angelina, Chad 16 00:01:03.120 --> 00:01:08.319 Stump and and I am Jesse monockelm And who's Jesse? Well, first of 17 00:01:08.359 --> 00:01:11.959 all, thanks for having me. I am the executive we want to have 18 00:01:12.079 --> 00:01:15.799 you. I'm the executive director and CEO of Mass Golf, the State Golf 19 00:01:15.799 --> 00:01:19.239 Association. Okay. And for people that don't cough with the people up at 20 00:01:19.239 --> 00:01:22.879 they don't cough anymore, we're trying to get them in the family. Get 21 00:01:23.079 --> 00:01:25.159 We'll bring them in. I don't know, bet, I was a golf 22 00:01:25.200 --> 00:01:30.719 widow mcolf mother. I've been at golf. I don't even I don't like 23 00:01:30.799 --> 00:01:33.879 golf. Okay, I've been the one making a living so big else can 24 00:01:33.920 --> 00:01:36.760 go golf. Okay, but tell me, Jesse, tell me what's going 25 00:01:36.799 --> 00:01:40.120 on out there? You how'd you take get into this position? Give me 26 00:01:40.159 --> 00:01:42.519 the background, and how do you end up here? Sure? Yeah, 27 00:01:42.560 --> 00:01:46.239 Well I grew up playing. My father introduced me to the game. I 28 00:01:46.280 --> 00:01:49.719 was probably about four or five years old. Common story, right, I 29 00:01:49.799 --> 00:01:53.959 mean that happens, played a little bit competitively through high school and then in 30 00:01:55.000 --> 00:01:57.760 college was like anyone else, what am I going to do with my life? 31 00:01:59.239 --> 00:02:05.480 Pursued sports management and always knew there was some sports administration interest, knew 32 00:02:05.519 --> 00:02:09.080 there was an affinity for golf, and cold called a few organizations, the 33 00:02:09.080 --> 00:02:14.360 Mask Golf Association being one, and they brought me on as an intern my 34 00:02:14.759 --> 00:02:19.800 first summer in school and since then I stuck around for three summers. They 35 00:02:19.879 --> 00:02:23.599 hired me when I graduated from school. So you started with them in college. 36 00:02:23.680 --> 00:02:28.039 I did, I did, and I haven't left. So and that's 37 00:02:28.039 --> 00:02:30.960 how many years later? This is? This is year eighteen all in, 38 00:02:31.159 --> 00:02:34.800 so it took you eighteen years to become president. Well, I've been in 39 00:02:34.800 --> 00:02:39.080 this world now eleven. So I ran our championships for about six years and 40 00:02:39.159 --> 00:02:44.039 so three years is an intern, about six years running events and now year 41 00:02:44.080 --> 00:02:46.120 eleven as executive director. And Chow, when did you meet Chessie? How 42 00:02:46.159 --> 00:02:49.400 did you know Chesseay? On day one? He's noised since I was a 43 00:02:49.400 --> 00:02:53.879 little kid running around out there, what thirteen twelve years old, competing absolutely 44 00:02:53.080 --> 00:02:59.240 one event to the next, and you watch all these kids chasing the dream. 45 00:03:00.599 --> 00:03:02.759 Yeah, you know, it's it's interesting because we serve all levels of 46 00:03:02.759 --> 00:03:06.240 play, right, so you might have juniors that are looking to pursue, 47 00:03:06.319 --> 00:03:08.039 you know, a competitive career in the game. But on the other end 48 00:03:08.080 --> 00:03:10.639 of it, you might have a mid am who just enjoys the game. 49 00:03:12.199 --> 00:03:15.199 They work for a living, but they have that competitive juice. Maybe they 50 00:03:15.240 --> 00:03:17.360 played in high school, they played in college, and they still keep that 51 00:03:17.400 --> 00:03:22.080 fire going where they can compete, you know, as a twenty five year 52 00:03:22.120 --> 00:03:24.560 old or even as a senior amateur a fifty five and up. We offer 53 00:03:24.599 --> 00:03:29.719 those events for everybody, and I think that was what your father wanted to 54 00:03:29.759 --> 00:03:34.280 do. And don't remember it was called the Senior Tour. Yeah, you 55 00:03:34.319 --> 00:03:39.080 want to try out back. It is a forty fifty senior tour. So 56 00:03:39.360 --> 00:03:44.960 the Mascolf Association does all these type of tournaments. Yeah, it's one component 57 00:03:44.960 --> 00:03:49.280 of our services. We're an organization of member clubs. So the clubs in 58 00:03:49.319 --> 00:03:53.719 Massachusetts are a member of our organization. We service them whether it's through handicapping, 59 00:03:53.800 --> 00:03:59.240 course raiding. But then on the golfer side, one of our major 60 00:03:59.719 --> 00:04:03.360 show cases is really our championships and our tournaments. So who who heads up 61 00:04:03.439 --> 00:04:09.840 like us AM is that you guys. So the USGA is the national governing 62 00:04:09.840 --> 00:04:12.599 body. We're a partner of the us GA. We're kind of their local 63 00:04:12.599 --> 00:04:15.600 affiliate if you will, and we conduct their local qualifying. So we'll host 64 00:04:15.600 --> 00:04:19.360 the USAM qualifier in Massachusetts, okay, and then also do the us Open 65 00:04:19.399 --> 00:04:23.199 call. That's been Chad. Your only turn is that you always come in 66 00:04:23.240 --> 00:04:27.399 like, oh, I've had the USAM. I've had so many bad stories 67 00:04:27.519 --> 00:04:30.519 on my home course, Blue Hill. It's mah, what's that kid? 68 00:04:30.879 --> 00:04:34.879 Something broom, Matt broom. We're going to playoff because I just go I 69 00:04:34.959 --> 00:04:39.160 went wild on the final nine. We go to one. He's in the 70 00:04:39.199 --> 00:04:42.560 back of the green. This it's straight downhill. I too put. I'm 71 00:04:42.600 --> 00:04:45.759 going to the us M. This thing hits a come from sixty feet, 72 00:04:45.800 --> 00:04:51.160 go straight up and then he takes my spot. Wow yep. And apparently 73 00:04:51.240 --> 00:04:54.199 his friend took my stys on the day of the night before. That was 74 00:04:54.199 --> 00:05:00.600 great and his friend he did. The kid popped the ball. Yeah yeah, 75 00:05:00.600 --> 00:05:01.639 and at least if not, it was off the green going into the 76 00:05:01.639 --> 00:05:04.040 friends, you had to chip up and unces, you made the chip. 77 00:05:04.160 --> 00:05:09.600 He's had some crazy like moments. Yeah, it's golf. Let me tell 78 00:05:09.600 --> 00:05:14.120 you're playing against mother nature, right, and sometimes those stars just have to 79 00:05:14.160 --> 00:05:17.079 line up and a your a lucky day. It's one of those crazy you're 80 00:05:17.079 --> 00:05:19.959 grinded for every shot out there. Let me tell you that you're working for 81 00:05:20.079 --> 00:05:29.079 every shot. So okay, so tell me about do you see these kids 82 00:05:29.199 --> 00:05:32.040 that are getting younger and younger? You're how old? Now? I'm thirty 83 00:05:32.040 --> 00:05:36.160 seven, so you're young. But if you ask golfers that are in their 84 00:05:36.199 --> 00:05:41.439 fifties and sixties, they would tell you good golfers didn't hit the PGA till 85 00:05:41.480 --> 00:05:46.279 the late middle thirties. Is that correct? I think years ago that might 86 00:05:46.279 --> 00:05:48.439 have been the case. It's getting younger and younger. And how young are 87 00:05:48.439 --> 00:05:54.519 they? Well, several are not going to college, going right to the 88 00:05:54.560 --> 00:05:58.879 pros from high school. Really, yeah, we've seen that recently. But 89 00:05:59.040 --> 00:06:01.120 you've also got college has a good development option. You know, a kid 90 00:06:01.199 --> 00:06:08.439 like Michael thorp Jornson, he's he's at Stanford right now and he has an 91 00:06:08.439 --> 00:06:12.199 opportunity to get to the PGA Tour just by way of his collegiate finishes. 92 00:06:12.759 --> 00:06:15.519 So no more C school for something like that, or there is still Q 93 00:06:15.639 --> 00:06:19.079 school, but there's other avenues through the sponsors, exemptions and stuff like that. 94 00:06:19.160 --> 00:06:23.439 Oh yeah, that you don't have to go. And this this kid, 95 00:06:23.480 --> 00:06:26.839 Michael, he's he's a stick. He's the real deal. One thing 96 00:06:26.879 --> 00:06:30.199 I would share to just locally. I think the junior golf scene has changed 97 00:06:30.240 --> 00:06:33.240 dramatically. You grew up with it, but it's changed even since him. 98 00:06:33.399 --> 00:06:36.279 It has. Yeah, there's more players number one, and there's more talent. 99 00:06:36.360 --> 00:06:40.959 You can play year round, right, you can go through simulate. 100 00:06:41.199 --> 00:06:45.120 You know, there's there's different programs, clinics. But here here's my question 101 00:06:45.199 --> 00:06:47.879 to you. If you're living in Florida, why did you get to come 102 00:06:47.879 --> 00:06:55.519 to mass and sign up here? Easier competition sometimes because they've been playing all 103 00:06:55.519 --> 00:06:59.639 your in Florida, but that come back here. Well, given the kids 104 00:07:00.040 --> 00:07:03.959 actually working, we're kind of in that snowbird scenario where you might have families 105 00:07:03.959 --> 00:07:08.720 that go down south over the winter come back for the summer. So but 106 00:07:08.800 --> 00:07:12.120 it is aren't they working the system? A bit? A little bit? 107 00:07:12.480 --> 00:07:14.879 But you can't stop that? No. I mean, for us, if 108 00:07:14.879 --> 00:07:17.000 if you're a member of Mask Golf, if you have an affiliation, a 109 00:07:17.040 --> 00:07:20.680 handicap or membership at one of our clubs, you're eligible to Oh you are, 110 00:07:20.800 --> 00:07:24.959 so you have to have some ties to Mask, you do, but 111 00:07:25.000 --> 00:07:30.480 that's easy to get. No, relatively speaking, Yeah, okay, all 112 00:07:30.560 --> 00:07:33.000 right, well let's go off to other questions. Are you happy who you 113 00:07:33.079 --> 00:07:38.399 are? Extremely Yeah, this has been an incredible ride and seeing a lot 114 00:07:38.439 --> 00:07:42.800 of change over eighteen years. Scotty still over there, No, Scottie is. 115 00:07:43.839 --> 00:07:46.399 He's worked at actually a few clubs in the South Shore area. So 116 00:07:46.519 --> 00:07:51.199 basically Start is an intern and ended up as present eighteen years. So you 117 00:07:51.279 --> 00:07:56.959 ways stuck it out. I did not your typical millennial right, No, 118 00:07:57.040 --> 00:08:01.240 not at all. Well, you have the attentions of being a fe I 119 00:08:01.439 --> 00:08:05.759 like that. I okay, I'm the worst person talk golf, Chad. 120 00:08:05.040 --> 00:08:09.040 You got questions there? This is joshtick, not mine. There you go, 121 00:08:09.560 --> 00:08:11.680 all right? Did was worth to support it? All? Okay? 122 00:08:11.879 --> 00:08:16.560 There you go? What it takes. So in your opinion, how is 123 00:08:16.560 --> 00:08:22.199 the Masters's Golf Association evolves since its inception? Yeah, it's I'd say we've 124 00:08:22.279 --> 00:08:28.800 professionalized. We've grown tremendously. You know. I even for my time within 125 00:08:28.839 --> 00:08:31.120 the organization, I feel we were this mom and pop organization. Yeah, 126 00:08:33.000 --> 00:08:35.679 you know a little bit I'm gonna say fraternal in a way. But now 127 00:08:35.759 --> 00:08:39.559 I feel we're a community based organization that serves any golfer, no matter how 128 00:08:39.559 --> 00:08:46.320 they want to engage a lot of that speaks to a merger that we UH 129 00:08:46.360 --> 00:08:50.200 successfully accomplished back in twenty eighteen, So the Massachusetts Golf Association and the Women's 130 00:08:50.240 --> 00:08:56.879 Golf Association Massachusetts. We merged both organizations, two one hundred year old organizations 131 00:08:56.919 --> 00:09:01.799 into one with the intent to be of service to any again, any golferline 132 00:09:01.840 --> 00:09:05.360 operation. And that's also doing because in the golf world that really didn't happen 133 00:09:05.399 --> 00:09:09.159 before. No, no, there was. It was a bit segmentary, 134 00:09:09.360 --> 00:09:13.159 and you know, call it territorial, but you know, six years in, 135 00:09:13.879 --> 00:09:16.720 it's it's made us a strong organization and I think more visible. Yeah, 136 00:09:18.600 --> 00:09:20.600 I'm stay stumble. You listen to w BZ News Radio ten thirty and 137 00:09:20.639 --> 00:09:26.240 we'll be right back. Sponsored by Flora Decor, National Lumber and Village Bank. 138 00:09:31.919 --> 00:09:41.320 Wo and welcome back to Tough His Nails on w BZ News Radio ten 139 00:09:41.440 --> 00:09:45.879 thirty. And I'm here with Angelina and the Star Child Chad, the Star 140 00:09:46.080 --> 00:09:48.600 Chad go ahead, and Jesse MONOCKELM all right, So Jesse knows Chad. 141 00:09:48.679 --> 00:09:54.279 Chad knows Jesse. Chad played golf amateur, went to Europe, you played 142 00:09:54.279 --> 00:09:58.559 for the European Tour, left Massachusetts, went moved to Florida and still played 143 00:09:58.600 --> 00:10:03.159 the mass events up until COVID. Yep. And I'm coming back and hopefully 144 00:10:03.200 --> 00:10:07.120 we have a great summer because I know the events are awesome. But now 145 00:10:07.159 --> 00:10:09.000 let's get back to this. You will not see me out there for dinner. 146 00:10:09.399 --> 00:10:11.120 No, no, no, because last year up there, hold on, 147 00:10:11.159 --> 00:10:13.919 hold on, you forget. I was leaving. The friends that we 148 00:10:13.960 --> 00:10:16.799 met with us was the sixty six. Did you hear she had got kicked 149 00:10:16.799 --> 00:10:18.240 out the termin almost she had to write a letter to you guys. Did 150 00:10:18.320 --> 00:10:26.320 you know what happened the going out this this Charles River? Oh, I 151 00:10:26.360 --> 00:10:28.600 was so pissed them. I had the woman that helped me raise Chad and 152 00:10:28.879 --> 00:10:33.120 she had cancer in the cart and this kid made such a big deal about 153 00:10:33.159 --> 00:10:39.399 it, and I asked for permission pro but there was a kid and then 154 00:10:39.399 --> 00:10:41.879 he went to the head. I don't, I don't care. So they 155 00:10:41.919 --> 00:10:43.639 found us out there and they said you can't have a cart, and I'm 156 00:10:43.639 --> 00:10:48.440 like, this is like the closest thing to Chad besides me being his mom, 157 00:10:48.519 --> 00:10:54.480 is the second mom. It wasn't and it was nice, came out. 158 00:10:54.279 --> 00:10:58.200 I was nice until they said she still can't be here. And I'm 159 00:10:58.200 --> 00:11:01.200 like, wow, this is this is like terrible, right. So I 160 00:11:01.279 --> 00:11:05.039 knew the kid said, Jesse Sen you out there. He's actually told you 161 00:11:05.120 --> 00:11:09.519 put your phone down a couple of times. So I pulled up into the 162 00:11:09.679 --> 00:11:13.080 ghost shop and I said, you had to start this, didn't you. 163 00:11:13.519 --> 00:11:15.240 I said, well, let me tell you something. You started with the 164 00:11:15.240 --> 00:11:16.919 wrong woman. And then all of a sudden, that night, I'm getting 165 00:11:16.960 --> 00:11:20.279 finned. I walk off the eighteenth Green just happy as hell. I just 166 00:11:20.279 --> 00:11:24.120 shot six under. I'm going at it with Herbie and my dad calls me. 167 00:11:24.159 --> 00:11:24.639 He goes, cheat, I don't think you play tomorrow. I go, 168 00:11:24.919 --> 00:11:28.480 what do you mean? I go, I go ahead, didn't do 169 00:11:28.559 --> 00:11:31.600 anything. I'm thinking, like, did I dismiss a dibbit or something like? 170 00:11:31.600 --> 00:11:33.679 What's going on? He goes your mother? I go, what the 171 00:11:33.720 --> 00:11:37.399 hell did she do? And then I heard the story. I go, 172 00:11:37.480 --> 00:11:39.679 oh God, I go, she's not gonna write the letter. I'm gonna 173 00:11:39.679 --> 00:11:41.200 have to write this. I end writing a letter that I know. I 174 00:11:41.320 --> 00:11:45.960 wrote a letter and I sent it and I think FITZI wrote the letter and 175 00:11:46.039 --> 00:11:48.200 then I signed it and sent it. I'm like, I'm not apologizing. 176 00:11:48.320 --> 00:11:52.960 I keep everything you have to apologize to challenge. I apologize. So that 177 00:11:52.960 --> 00:11:56.679 that's my crazy story. I maybe had a couple more crazy stories out there. 178 00:11:56.720 --> 00:11:58.840 Oh in the US opened a couple of times. Your phone's just ringing, 179 00:12:00.080 --> 00:12:03.080 and it's always on the par fourards at whole number three with where the 180 00:12:03.080 --> 00:12:07.039 bunker in the front at Pine Hills, and then it goes down to part 181 00:12:07.080 --> 00:12:11.039 four of the water on the right. Meanwhile there's ten of us with shat 182 00:12:11.159 --> 00:12:13.480 a Pine Hills. Her phone's going. I do remember there's always like, 183 00:12:13.559 --> 00:12:18.320 yeah, always there was a pretty good group. Always not because it would 184 00:12:18.320 --> 00:12:24.679 be it would be my caddie Mic and my dad does she had to come. 185 00:12:24.080 --> 00:12:28.399 She can't drive alone. So be three people, four people and they 186 00:12:28.559 --> 00:12:31.120 just don't know any golf edit, you know. And then Steve and all 187 00:12:31.159 --> 00:12:33.360 your buddies show up like you always had like ten twelve people up there. 188 00:12:33.399 --> 00:12:37.720 But go ahead, but they're not stressful to have out there. But all 189 00:12:37.799 --> 00:12:43.679 right, let's go back to the Mask Association. How's it evolved? Yeah, 190 00:12:43.799 --> 00:12:46.080 so I would evolve from where from where you were a kid to now 191 00:12:46.240 --> 00:12:50.240 from actually let's go from your start from when you started with the mask off 192 00:12:50.360 --> 00:12:54.600 today. Well, again, I would say we've grown in stature. We've 193 00:12:54.639 --> 00:13:01.440 grown, you know, from a volunteer based organization now with a staff of 194 00:13:01.519 --> 00:13:03.679 about twenty seven. You know, when I started, we had a staff 195 00:13:03.679 --> 00:13:07.000 of about eight, very reliant on our volunteer network to you know, really 196 00:13:07.080 --> 00:13:11.320 run the organization and be the front face of the organization. You know, 197 00:13:11.399 --> 00:13:16.879 as technologies evolved, as the games evolved, services, et cetera. You 198 00:13:16.879 --> 00:13:20.399 know, we need to support our golfers and our clubs in a different way. 199 00:13:20.519 --> 00:13:24.200 So we still very much rely on volunteers, but there's a machine now 200 00:13:24.240 --> 00:13:30.000 behind the operation. We're over one hundred year old organization, so we were 201 00:13:30.039 --> 00:13:33.360 established in nineteen hundred. You know, early on, right, the likes 202 00:13:33.360 --> 00:13:37.759 of Donald Ross Francis we met. I mean, these are the legends within 203 00:13:37.799 --> 00:13:41.879 the game, not just here in Massachusetts but beyond, and you know they're 204 00:13:41.919 --> 00:13:43.720 kind of the foundation of golf here in the state. Then you go to 205 00:13:43.919 --> 00:13:50.320 the likes of Pat Bradley and moving on to the Frank Vanas and Marie Tobns, 206 00:13:50.080 --> 00:13:54.360 Harry McCracken. Right, Ryah, another ambassador of the game. So 207 00:13:54.159 --> 00:13:58.320 it's important that wed I mess him. He was a legend, he was 208 00:13:58.360 --> 00:14:03.039 a good friend and to me, oh yeah, good role model all that. 209 00:14:03.799 --> 00:14:05.639 But you know, it's important for us that we you know, honor 210 00:14:05.720 --> 00:14:09.159 respect the traditions of it. But how do we continue to evolve as an 211 00:14:09.240 --> 00:14:16.200 organization and making sure that we sustain this game long term? Well, keep 212 00:14:16.240 --> 00:14:20.120 the tradition. I like that. And now so with evolving, Now, 213 00:14:20.120 --> 00:14:24.200 you said you joined with the Women's League and all that. Are there any 214 00:14:24.200 --> 00:14:28.039 co ed events for the listeners out there where you know, say a boyfriend 215 00:14:28.039 --> 00:14:30.559 and girlfriend, husband and wife are two good golfers, they want to link 216 00:14:30.639 --> 00:14:33.840 up and play a tournament. Do you guys offer that? Yeah, absolutely, 217 00:14:33.080 --> 00:14:35.559 we have a handful of them, and actually one of them has become 218 00:14:37.759 --> 00:14:41.000 a mixed four ball championship. So this was something new for the organization. 219 00:14:41.639 --> 00:14:46.200 Once we merged, we felt, is there an opportunity to bring our top 220 00:14:46.240 --> 00:14:50.240 players from the male side the female side and have them merge together. You 221 00:14:50.320 --> 00:14:54.639 see combinations of Matt parzy Ally and Shannon Johnson, two of our best players 222 00:14:54.120 --> 00:15:01.639 nationally pairing up as a team, Herbie Aikins and Megan b Sue curtain Frank 223 00:15:01.720 --> 00:15:05.159 Vanna. You know, in a very natural way, this became really a 224 00:15:05.159 --> 00:15:09.759 stable calendar and it just took off. So it's partnering up a female and 225 00:15:09.759 --> 00:15:13.720 the male. Yeah, which has never really never happened because honestly, female 226 00:15:15.000 --> 00:15:18.720 weren't really a lot of golf courses to when it probably depends what part of 227 00:15:18.759 --> 00:15:24.799 the country or the mass mass was late late, yeah, relatively. Yeah, 228 00:15:26.000 --> 00:15:28.440 mass is real old traditional golf coy. I remember even at Spring Valua 229 00:15:28.480 --> 00:15:31.679 when we first longed to Spring Valley, I was in my early twenties. 230 00:15:31.679 --> 00:15:35.679 I was twenty three. Dad could go out there early. We got to 231 00:15:35.720 --> 00:15:39.200 look four o'clock. No, no, no, like twelve one o'clock after 232 00:15:39.279 --> 00:15:41.840 lunch. The women could go out there and play. I think you'll find 233 00:15:41.879 --> 00:15:46.840 a lot of that type of policy is still there. No, it's gone 234 00:15:46.840 --> 00:15:52.399 six that is faded, and there were some clubs that you couldn't even bring 235 00:15:52.480 --> 00:15:54.320 your kids to the country club. I mean, you want to talk about 236 00:15:54.320 --> 00:15:58.159 down south, they still have some of their ways with their clubs and stuff. 237 00:15:58.600 --> 00:16:02.279 Oh no, we're in Massachusetts. Yeah, even we're airing in thirty 238 00:16:02.320 --> 00:16:07.039 seven states, we're in Massachusetts. So we'll stay with the mask because yeah 239 00:16:07.080 --> 00:16:10.879 we do. But and specifically stand this show right now, we're able to 240 00:16:10.960 --> 00:16:14.679 champion, you know, the women's game and having events like this So I 241 00:16:14.720 --> 00:16:18.159 have a question like who would Lexi Thompson, Lexi and Chad go back to 242 00:16:18.240 --> 00:16:22.600 kids? Very close to no, but who would they partner her up with 243 00:16:22.679 --> 00:16:26.440 if she wanted to play? You choose? So I would play with Lexi, 244 00:16:26.600 --> 00:16:30.639 but I can't because she's a professional. There's actually on the professional tours, 245 00:16:30.639 --> 00:16:34.159 there's some I think behind the scenes discussion as to a mixed, a 246 00:16:34.200 --> 00:16:37.679 potential mixed. It hasn't got to that level yet. Didn't they just do 247 00:16:37.840 --> 00:16:41.279 some small event where they said two and two? They did? Lexi played 248 00:16:41.279 --> 00:16:45.639 with uh yeah down in Florida. Yeah, yeah, the match, yeah, 249 00:16:45.679 --> 00:16:49.039 the master happened. Yeah. But isn't she playing on the PGA Men's 250 00:16:49.200 --> 00:16:52.679 No, she played one event I think most recently. That's right. Yeah, 251 00:16:52.720 --> 00:16:56.919 she's exclusively on the LPGA Tour. But I think she had a sponsor 252 00:16:56.000 --> 00:16:59.799 exemption to a PG tour and let me tell you, she kept up. 253 00:17:00.279 --> 00:17:04.680 Have you met many women that can play absolutely better than put it on the 254 00:17:04.720 --> 00:17:08.200 same tea, Well, let me give you an example. I mentioned Shannon 255 00:17:08.279 --> 00:17:12.599 Johnson a few minutes ago. So Shannon won the US Women's mid Am just 256 00:17:12.640 --> 00:17:17.960 a couple of years ago, and she has signed up and played in several 257 00:17:18.240 --> 00:17:23.160 predominantly male events of ours, call it our mid Am Championship. Successfully competed 258 00:17:23.200 --> 00:17:30.400 in that event. She qualified for it. You had Mollie Smith compete in 259 00:17:30.519 --> 00:17:34.079 the mass Amateur last year, which and howl. So Molly's in college now 260 00:17:34.160 --> 00:17:38.160 she's a freshman in college. Shannon is, Uh, she's a mid am 261 00:17:38.279 --> 00:17:42.759 probably late thirties. So they're there are They're out there, and they can 262 00:17:42.799 --> 00:17:52.920 definitely compete, but they can't play on the PGA Men's They have to again 263 00:17:52.960 --> 00:17:56.039 Lexi, Lexi did play, so there's the ability to play. Is she 264 00:17:56.160 --> 00:18:00.119 the first one to play on the men's I don't know. I don't think 265 00:18:00.160 --> 00:18:07.240 she is. Then we shall we play the male event. Yeah, I 266 00:18:07.240 --> 00:18:11.480 can't remember off hand, but I know I mean we played in the women's 267 00:18:11.519 --> 00:18:14.599 amateur public links. Yeah. Right, Well, then I have a female 268 00:18:14.680 --> 00:18:18.799 question here. I'm gonna ask the hard questions. I always ask the hard 269 00:18:18.880 --> 00:18:22.759 questions, Right, why do male golfers make more money than female golfers? 270 00:18:22.759 --> 00:18:26.440 In your opinion or you don't have an opinion, that's a good one. 271 00:18:26.960 --> 00:18:30.599 Now that's well, I think you're starting to see that shift a bit. 272 00:18:30.880 --> 00:18:36.559 You know, you're seeing the US Women's opens perse increase. I think it's 273 00:18:36.559 --> 00:18:41.400 getting up to twelve million dollars. And what's the men's uh, I can't 274 00:18:41.400 --> 00:18:44.039 remember off the top of my head. It might be it might be in 275 00:18:44.079 --> 00:18:48.400 the around twenty thereabouts. Yeah, you know, then I guess the argument 276 00:18:48.480 --> 00:18:52.880 might be eyeballs and awareness and and they like to watch the men's better. 277 00:18:53.599 --> 00:18:56.640 I mean, that's it. It comes down to. It comes down to 278 00:18:56.680 --> 00:19:03.160 sponsorship, pay advertise. That's what it comes down. So yep, it's 279 00:19:03.200 --> 00:19:04.799 okay women, you can't complain. We've come a long way. But actually 280 00:19:04.799 --> 00:19:08.119 no, but it's it's upcoming. I think things are changing quite rapidly. 281 00:19:08.440 --> 00:19:11.920 Rapid Yeah, and now do you see any and that's kind of hard, 282 00:19:12.400 --> 00:19:15.119 but actually we come back to that. All right, we'll hold that thought. 283 00:19:15.119 --> 00:19:18.480 We're going to break chat and we'll let you take back. Go with 284 00:19:18.599 --> 00:19:21.799 chet, I'm Citty stumbling you Listen Tough His Nails on w b Z News 285 00:19:21.839 --> 00:19:26.559 Radio ten thirty right sponsored by Pellow Windows of Boston. Next Day Molding and 286 00:19:26.640 --> 00:20:00.480 Kennedy Carpet Came, One City King Came Back the World. Listen and welcome 287 00:20:00.519 --> 00:20:03.640 back to Toughest Nails on wbc Who's Radio ten thirty and I'm City Stumple and 288 00:20:03.680 --> 00:20:08.440 I'm here with Angelina quiet one. Chad Stumpo. Chad's got a lot to 289 00:20:08.480 --> 00:20:12.160 say today. I'm not Okay, there you go. I'm backing off of 290 00:20:12.200 --> 00:20:15.799 this one because these are the golfers, right. I know when it's my 291 00:20:15.960 --> 00:20:18.640 lane. I know when I'm off I ninety five. I'm not on I 292 00:20:18.839 --> 00:20:22.799 ninety five. I'm not on driver. I'm on he sed I'm I'm in 293 00:20:22.839 --> 00:20:25.839 the cast seat. Okay, go ahead, boys. She's like happy Gilmore 294 00:20:25.920 --> 00:20:30.960 comes. I'm happy Gilmore comes to golf. Just destructive. That's a good 295 00:20:30.960 --> 00:20:36.640 thing, all right, Jesse. So another question I have. What initiatives 296 00:20:36.759 --> 00:20:41.599 or programs has a Masschosists Golf Association undertaken to promote the sport and foster community 297 00:20:41.640 --> 00:20:45.200 engagement. Yeah, we are a five and one C three charity and we've 298 00:20:45.240 --> 00:20:48.119 been and what's the five O one C. I mean, we're a nonprofit 299 00:20:48.240 --> 00:20:55.119 organization and our development arm is ultimately around junior golf and we've been a champion 300 00:20:55.160 --> 00:21:00.359 of first t National program under the PGA Tours umbrella. This is an opportunity 301 00:21:00.400 --> 00:21:06.079 for us to bring young kids into the game, but teach them core values 302 00:21:06.079 --> 00:21:10.680 of life and skills and really to be great people long term, and we 303 00:21:10.720 --> 00:21:14.480 get them on the golf course through instruction, through coaching, and what have 304 00:21:14.559 --> 00:21:18.319 you. And we're twenty years in. We are hugely proud of this program 305 00:21:18.640 --> 00:21:22.519 serving all of Massachusetts. And on top of that, another program that's a 306 00:21:22.559 --> 00:21:26.480 little bit newer for us, it's called Youth on Course, and we feel 307 00:21:26.519 --> 00:21:30.640 this program complements the first t as it's an opportunity to get kids on the 308 00:21:30.640 --> 00:21:36.319 golf course where they pay no more than five dollars per round and we subsidize 309 00:21:36.319 --> 00:21:40.480 the balance of that round at any facility that they participate at. So it's 310 00:21:40.480 --> 00:21:42.160 a way to get these kids on the golf course, to make it accessible, 311 00:21:42.319 --> 00:21:45.359 yep, and affordable. One of the big challenges that we face as 312 00:21:45.359 --> 00:21:49.519 an industry. Golf can be expensive in certain markets, right, and we 313 00:21:49.559 --> 00:21:52.279 want to make sure that we're getting more kids in a game, that it's 314 00:21:52.279 --> 00:21:56.119 affordable to them their families, and that there's no barrier to entry. And 315 00:21:56.160 --> 00:22:00.200 now do you think with all that, do you think with bringing these kids 316 00:22:00.279 --> 00:22:03.559 in a young age teach them, they're also learning life lessons through this game 317 00:22:03.599 --> 00:22:07.440 and morals that which kind of our country is kind of lacking right now, 318 00:22:08.079 --> 00:22:11.440 we do you think the game of golf teaches that, you know, that's 319 00:22:11.480 --> 00:22:17.000 that's really the foundation of first tea, right, But think about it. 320 00:22:17.039 --> 00:22:21.160 You know, whether you're you're playing caddying the people that you're with, the 321 00:22:21.200 --> 00:22:23.640 etiquette that you're learning on the golf course. You know, respect, integrity, 322 00:22:23.799 --> 00:22:27.680 honesty, perseverance, all these values right that are going to help you 323 00:22:27.720 --> 00:22:33.400 in your career. Accountability, No, I have. Let me tell you, 324 00:22:33.759 --> 00:22:37.920 it comes back to you. One thing. I would one thing about 325 00:22:37.960 --> 00:22:40.759 Chad. He would never lie on his and I'd say to his father, 326 00:22:40.799 --> 00:22:44.559 everybody else is lying, why isn't he? And Joe would say that's not 327 00:22:44.599 --> 00:22:48.119 a gentleman sport, that's right. And I remember Joe saying that accountable if 328 00:22:48.119 --> 00:22:52.559 he ever threw his club, Oh my god, Oh no, Joe is 329 00:22:52.640 --> 00:22:57.480 going to go like, I'm walking your club, and don't you ever cheat 330 00:22:57.480 --> 00:23:03.599 on your score like they played for my bank, Village bank, like they 331 00:23:03.720 --> 00:23:11.640 use those guys just like all the time. Completely a completely different world. 332 00:23:10.880 --> 00:23:15.279 He completely different. I'm talking about that world. I want to tell all 333 00:23:15.279 --> 00:23:18.000 you male golfers that get up there and lie and you put those scores that 334 00:23:18.039 --> 00:23:22.640 you really didn't hit those scores, you're liars. You collect the gifts, 335 00:23:22.799 --> 00:23:26.319 and you should feel guilty because that's like not even impossible. That comes out 336 00:23:26.000 --> 00:23:30.880 when you play with the actual person about this one. They're playing and chat 337 00:23:30.920 --> 00:23:33.720 shoots a hole in one right, like like they brought a score that was 338 00:23:33.720 --> 00:23:37.119 crazy, and I'm like the president my bank, I'm like, how how 339 00:23:37.160 --> 00:23:42.000 did they? I shot sixty two that day and we lost? Because how 340 00:23:42.240 --> 00:23:47.160 can these kids? I have my stupid question. It's like only asked stupid 341 00:23:47.200 --> 00:23:52.200 questions that comes off. Can these kids cheat without you guys knowing it? 342 00:23:52.519 --> 00:23:55.680 Hot? Well, let's let's so so Chad knows, right, he's played, 343 00:23:56.319 --> 00:23:59.880 I played numerous events. You know, yes, no, yes she 344 00:24:00.160 --> 00:24:03.279 can and I've seen it done firsthand. But then I've also seen it catch 345 00:24:03.319 --> 00:24:06.359 up to you. But let's talk about why. It's a little easier than 346 00:24:06.400 --> 00:24:08.599 the pros. So, yes, you have a marker at the amateur level, 347 00:24:08.599 --> 00:24:11.880 but you only have one you got. It's an honor system, it 348 00:24:11.920 --> 00:24:17.000 really is. You got to be truthful and you know you play the same 349 00:24:17.000 --> 00:24:18.200 ball. You can't change. You have to say the same market. You 350 00:24:18.240 --> 00:24:21.839 have to find that ball. There's kids out here. You go in the 351 00:24:21.839 --> 00:24:23.880 woods, and it takes two seconds to you know, drop a ball. 352 00:24:25.319 --> 00:24:27.920 Some kids maybe get a little foot edge just to get a little fluffly and 353 00:24:29.000 --> 00:24:32.599 then the catch it or you don't, I mean you kind of don't want 354 00:24:32.599 --> 00:24:34.440 to be, you know, that person to catch them because then the conversation 355 00:24:34.480 --> 00:24:37.640 will happen. But yes, there's cheating that goes on at a lower level 356 00:24:37.640 --> 00:24:42.400 of golf, right chesse professional And when you catch these kids, what happens 357 00:24:42.440 --> 00:24:45.880 like do you say, like, well, hey, we're we're you know, 358 00:24:45.079 --> 00:24:48.640 a rules governing body, right, we've got to run an equitable competition 359 00:24:48.759 --> 00:24:52.119 or event for all the players that are in the field. It's likely that 360 00:24:52.160 --> 00:24:56.000 we're going to have a conversation with that player, maybe a parent, if 361 00:24:56.039 --> 00:24:59.359 they're a guardian, if they're around, and you know, at times maybe 362 00:24:59.400 --> 00:25:03.880 it's an education opportunity. But if you're in an amateur championship or you know, 363 00:25:04.200 --> 00:25:07.640 a mid am it's a different different scenario. You know, if that 364 00:25:07.680 --> 00:25:10.880 were to happen, it's going to come to light. Oh let me tell 365 00:25:10.880 --> 00:25:12.279 you shape in the golf world, you'll be known and you don't want that 366 00:25:12.440 --> 00:25:15.039 name? Is that true, Chad? You just say that in the golf 367 00:25:15.079 --> 00:25:18.799 world, you don't want to be known as a cheater. Well, I 368 00:25:18.799 --> 00:25:22.160 mean in any in any way of life, in anyway that way. But 369 00:25:22.440 --> 00:25:25.799 it's a game of life, it really is. So when you guys go 370 00:25:25.880 --> 00:25:29.000 out there and you play these amateur events, isn't something in the golf cut 371 00:25:29.039 --> 00:25:30.839 with you most of the time you walk in. No, but you have 372 00:25:30.880 --> 00:25:33.839 one marker, you have officials out there, but it's you have trees. 373 00:25:33.880 --> 00:25:37.359 You catch one little thing. The guy times a right. Like you say, 374 00:25:37.400 --> 00:25:40.079 if I'm walking right behind you can't go behind, then you can't hear 375 00:25:40.119 --> 00:25:41.799 you. If you're away from the mic, Chad, we're not on TV 376 00:25:41.880 --> 00:25:45.880 anymore, one radio. If I just walked right behind him real quick, 377 00:25:45.920 --> 00:25:48.000 right, No, you can see you walking home. So if I walked 378 00:25:48.039 --> 00:25:49.960 right behind him for two seconds, like a second, I could drop a 379 00:25:51.000 --> 00:25:52.759 ball so fast you wouldn't even see it because the tree is covering you. 380 00:25:53.440 --> 00:25:56.359 Got it. So say he's a tree, I walked by him, you 381 00:25:56.400 --> 00:25:59.359 couldn't even see it. So it's the honest system being kept with the next 382 00:25:59.400 --> 00:26:02.240 generation kids, I would say it is. Yeah, we're doing as much 383 00:26:02.279 --> 00:26:06.240 as we can to educate it, to preach it. Hey, it's a 384 00:26:06.240 --> 00:26:08.279 part of the game. A father's out there as much as they used to 385 00:26:08.359 --> 00:26:12.119 be. Yes, I would say parents are out there quite a bit. 386 00:26:12.400 --> 00:26:15.200 We don't run a ton of junior events, but for those that we do, 387 00:26:15.359 --> 00:26:19.160 the parents are paying the club. We've got certain policies that keep would 388 00:26:19.200 --> 00:26:25.759 be us. Just your famous in the MGA, Thank you. I got 389 00:26:25.799 --> 00:26:30.680 to be famous for Rego. Okay, all right? So do you think 390 00:26:30.680 --> 00:26:33.319 the kids and again I'm gonna ask the dumb questions, not the hard questions, 391 00:26:33.400 --> 00:26:37.279 right because I'm a dummy in this game. Do you think having the 392 00:26:37.359 --> 00:26:40.799 parents out there cause more pressure on these kids than the kids were just out 393 00:26:40.799 --> 00:26:45.799 there having a good time playing In many cases, yes, I think it 394 00:26:45.839 --> 00:26:48.720 depends on on their presence, on you know, what they're doing. Are 395 00:26:48.720 --> 00:26:52.960 they being encouraging or relationship and the relationship right? And then what happens off 396 00:26:53.000 --> 00:26:56.880 the golf course? Right? Is it going blow by blow? This is 397 00:26:56.880 --> 00:26:59.079 what you did? Well? This is what you didn't or was it did 398 00:26:59.079 --> 00:27:04.000 you have fun out there? Sport? Right? Then? But there are 399 00:27:04.079 --> 00:27:07.200 kids that a father is that he had a father that was a scratch golfer. 400 00:27:07.319 --> 00:27:11.200 Sure, so it's not like he had a father that's was a country 401 00:27:11.200 --> 00:27:15.359 club golfer, you know, or no golfer. So of course his dad 402 00:27:15.400 --> 00:27:18.839 was going to give him honesty. But had Timmy Tarney, who's like an 403 00:27:18.839 --> 00:27:23.480 older brother to me my whole life. And so he put a club in 404 00:27:23.519 --> 00:27:26.920 my hand three years old. There's a mentor there, right, Yeah, 405 00:27:27.319 --> 00:27:30.599 mentor your dad put the club in Timmy's here and you see how it went. 406 00:27:30.680 --> 00:27:34.279 Yeah, he was working for your dad as a lot boy. He 407 00:27:34.319 --> 00:27:37.160 came out of his HackMaster we used to call him, and Joe put the 408 00:27:37.160 --> 00:27:41.519 club in his hand. That's when he found in love of golf. And 409 00:27:41.559 --> 00:27:45.319 that's the beauty of the game. Yeah, exactly, exactly. So that 410 00:27:45.400 --> 00:27:48.359 was just my dumb question. Um at all. You can go back to 411 00:27:48.359 --> 00:27:52.160 your smarty pant questions. Well, let me let me jump on the smarty 412 00:27:52.200 --> 00:27:56.960 pant question again. I mentioned first T and youth on course, but we're 413 00:27:56.960 --> 00:28:02.640 seeing another new initiative coming from the USGA. This is something from Mike wand 414 00:28:02.680 --> 00:28:07.160 the new CEO there. He was the former LPGA commissioner for about eleven years, 415 00:28:07.200 --> 00:28:11.519 but he recognized in his role as a commission of the LPGA that there 416 00:28:11.519 --> 00:28:15.319 weren't a lot of Americans at the top of the leader board. For LPGA 417 00:28:15.359 --> 00:28:19.880 events. That is true reason being we don't have a formal junior development program 418 00:28:19.920 --> 00:28:23.240 for golf. We have it for all other sports, right hockey, baseball, 419 00:28:23.319 --> 00:28:29.359 soccer. We have all these other countries that have a formalized program for 420 00:28:29.480 --> 00:28:33.119 golf. They have houses in Florida, Arizona where they bring and kind of 421 00:28:33.200 --> 00:28:38.400 raise these kids, teach them, develop them, provide different services that they 422 00:28:38.519 --> 00:28:42.359 might need to improve their game and develop in their game. So we are 423 00:28:42.400 --> 00:28:48.079 actually launching, we're one of seven pilot programs across the country to create Team 424 00:28:48.079 --> 00:28:53.720 Massachusetts, So a junior golf development initiative that we hope will bear fruit down 425 00:28:53.759 --> 00:28:57.720 the line. And perhaps you see a young girl from Massachusetts at the top 426 00:28:57.720 --> 00:29:00.960 of the or boy at the top of the leaderboard. And what do you 427 00:29:00.960 --> 00:29:04.119 think do you think you'll see in the female world's go to LPGA? Do 428 00:29:04.160 --> 00:29:08.240 you think you'll see more female American golfers out there? I do think after 429 00:29:08.319 --> 00:29:11.440 ten years, this is going to create a pipeline, you know, whether 430 00:29:11.480 --> 00:29:17.000 it's through high school golf, a j G, a USGA competition's college golf, 431 00:29:17.079 --> 00:29:19.079 and then hopefully at some time, you know, the tours. If 432 00:29:19.079 --> 00:29:23.880 things are successful, I would love to see it. Even though I played 433 00:29:23.880 --> 00:29:26.720 for Italy, I still love to see the United States too good. My 434 00:29:27.279 --> 00:29:30.079 producer is knocking me on the shoulders. That means I got to get off 435 00:29:30.119 --> 00:29:34.079 my phone because I can't keep it with a conversation and go off to break 436 00:29:34.119 --> 00:29:37.880 Thank you. I'm Sinny Stompany. Listens WBZ News Radio ten thirty and We'll 437 00:29:37.880 --> 00:29:41.880 be right back, sponsored by new Brook Realty Group, Boston, would Smaller 438 00:29:41.880 --> 00:30:18.160 Insurance World Auto Body and Tosca Drive Auto Body. You made and welcome back 439 00:30:18.160 --> 00:30:22.839 to Toughest Nails on w b Z News Radio ten thirty And I'm City Stumpo 440 00:30:22.880 --> 00:30:26.759 and I'm here with Angelina, Chad and Jesse Monocle. Chad. You your 441 00:30:26.839 --> 00:30:32.880 last name? Yeah, your son usually what's your last name again? Grilla? 442 00:30:33.480 --> 00:30:36.599 No, it wasn't it was, It's stump She's not feisty anymore. 443 00:30:36.720 --> 00:30:38.759 Would you say it's going to be what would you say it's going to be 444 00:30:38.839 --> 00:30:44.839 Stumpo? Yes? Oh you sure about that? Very sure? Okay, 445 00:30:45.400 --> 00:30:48.160 I'll be the golf widow taker, you'll be the golfer. I'll be the 446 00:30:48.200 --> 00:30:52.400 golf widow, the golf widow. Ye, yes, I'll be divorced. 447 00:30:52.039 --> 00:30:56.279 You need to understand that, yes, maybe it'll be a team. Yeah, 448 00:30:56.599 --> 00:30:59.400 I want to caddy for me, right, she's have We've seen that 449 00:30:59.440 --> 00:31:04.279 out in the PG to just watch. So let's get back to this listeners 450 00:31:04.279 --> 00:31:07.720 out there. I hope everyone's having a wonderful night. Actually my list is 451 00:31:07.839 --> 00:31:11.119 like to listen to see who my kids are dating and then they try to 452 00:31:11.119 --> 00:31:15.920 picture like what they We'll come back with the reality show you all back to 453 00:31:15.000 --> 00:31:18.480 TV. Never had it up. Honestly, I think I need one. 454 00:31:18.119 --> 00:31:22.640 But let's talk about how the game's evolving. And in my opinion, because 455 00:31:22.640 --> 00:31:26.119 I worked with First Team Miami Dade for a little while and I did a 456 00:31:26.160 --> 00:31:29.960 lot of work within the city kids, I brought my own clubs for them 457 00:31:29.960 --> 00:31:33.119 and stuff like that taught them. Do you see a lot more of that 458 00:31:33.279 --> 00:31:36.440 mass now? Still? Are you guys developing a program for that here? 459 00:31:36.480 --> 00:31:40.039 Do you guys have that? Yeah? Great question? And you know, 460 00:31:40.079 --> 00:31:42.400 again, as I spoke earlier with our first TEA program, that's where I'll 461 00:31:42.400 --> 00:31:48.160 put some focus and energy because the intent there is underserved communities. You know, 462 00:31:48.200 --> 00:31:52.000 where can we bring golf to those that need it that can't afford it 463 00:31:52.000 --> 00:31:55.839 too? First and foremost City of Boston has been a champion location for us. 464 00:31:56.519 --> 00:32:00.880 We've had our first tea program at Franklin Park since twenty fifteen and it's 465 00:32:00.880 --> 00:32:04.039 been hugely successful. You know, it's tied into parks and rec. Kids 466 00:32:04.039 --> 00:32:07.680 have an opportunity to participate in the program for free three seasons out of the 467 00:32:07.759 --> 00:32:12.359 year. On top of that, we're down in Brockton, We're at dw 468 00:32:12.519 --> 00:32:15.599 Field, which has been another home run. We're out in Springfield as well. 469 00:32:15.720 --> 00:32:19.680 So trying to put some like I said, some energy and focus in 470 00:32:19.720 --> 00:32:22.160 these parts of the states that really we want to see golf thrive. And 471 00:32:23.319 --> 00:32:27.400 you know, the municipalities, the parks and rec departments, they've all been 472 00:32:27.440 --> 00:32:30.960 hugely supportive and it's allowed our game to grow and thrive. And we're seeing 473 00:32:30.960 --> 00:32:36.799 these kids kind of graduate on become members of you know, our organization, 474 00:32:37.880 --> 00:32:42.559 competitors and certain events and seeing a ton of success from that. Yeah. 475 00:32:42.680 --> 00:32:45.920 Well, also one of my friends actually in Boston. Have you ever heard 476 00:32:45.960 --> 00:32:47.640 of urban Golf? I have, So that's one of my really good friends, 477 00:32:49.759 --> 00:32:52.920 pretty good. I did a little lesson last year with him in Franklin 478 00:32:52.960 --> 00:32:55.720 Park. Just love to see like all those inner city because they like it. 479 00:32:55.759 --> 00:32:59.359 But it's hard to focus them real quick, but once they get it, 480 00:32:59.680 --> 00:33:01.279 they all in love with it. And I mean, I don't know 481 00:33:01.279 --> 00:33:04.519 if you guys ever met, but i'd love to introduce you guys. Maybe 482 00:33:04.599 --> 00:33:07.359 I think you're speaking about Marcos. Yeah, Marcos, well, yeah, 483 00:33:07.359 --> 00:33:13.960 absolutely, Jesse. Where can parents find these programs? So you can start 484 00:33:13.960 --> 00:33:16.640 with our website at massolf dot org. You can also go to first Team 485 00:33:16.720 --> 00:33:22.799 mass and through those websites you can check out the programming, the scheduling. 486 00:33:23.920 --> 00:33:28.440 I mentioned three seasons out of the year. We also do have off season 487 00:33:28.480 --> 00:33:34.640 programming, so indoor clinics at boys and girls clubs, you know, gymnasiums, 488 00:33:37.920 --> 00:33:39.799 virtual golf as well. Right, so there's a ton of different options 489 00:33:39.799 --> 00:33:45.319 for them. That's awesome, all right. And with all that, with 490 00:33:45.359 --> 00:33:50.720 all the you know, the technology coming up. Yeah, can you how 491 00:33:50.759 --> 00:33:57.279 can you say, like has the technology impacted like the golf world it dramatically? 492 00:33:58.319 --> 00:34:01.119 You know, let's talk about question. That's okay, I got the 493 00:34:01.119 --> 00:34:07.079 interviewed. All my clients want golf simulas in the house. Everyone, it's 494 00:34:07.119 --> 00:34:08.159 it's hey, it's a way to keep the golf clib in your hand. 495 00:34:08.199 --> 00:34:13.679 Twelve months out of the technology get out of a golf simulator. You can, 496 00:34:13.840 --> 00:34:15.920 you absolutely can. And not only that, but you can get data 497 00:34:15.159 --> 00:34:20.800 right and it can you can analyze your swing and get feedback from coaches through 498 00:34:21.159 --> 00:34:24.440 video technology and you can see all your all your angles, you know, 499 00:34:24.960 --> 00:34:29.920 swing speeds, everything. So it's becoming tool. Even if you just have 500 00:34:29.960 --> 00:34:31.920 a net, you get a track, you can see everything on the computer. 501 00:34:32.119 --> 00:34:37.159 Come on these golf simulas I'm putting in houses Like yeah, I'm saying, 502 00:34:37.159 --> 00:34:40.360 if you want to got that putting green and the little cheaper side. 503 00:34:42.280 --> 00:34:45.920 I guess if you want a golf in the winter time? Do you think 504 00:34:45.960 --> 00:34:49.880 they're simulating golf? They're blowing up. I see them opening them up everywhere. 505 00:34:49.920 --> 00:34:52.760 Now we have we've seen league play you know where folks. You know 506 00:34:52.760 --> 00:34:57.400 it's there's also the social element too, right, whether it's your your top 507 00:34:57.440 --> 00:35:01.440 golf experience or uh is there the top golf is or are you outside playing 508 00:35:01.440 --> 00:35:05.119 on top of it? Why you're indoor lire heated base tape but you're hitting 509 00:35:05.119 --> 00:35:09.280 out indoor out door. And my last question, and I have no more, 510 00:35:09.599 --> 00:35:13.880 the rest is on you in chat. If one more person tells me. 511 00:35:13.920 --> 00:35:17.119 In my twenty year career with chat that golf is not a sport. 512 00:35:17.199 --> 00:35:21.400 Can I punch them in the eyeballs and like hold them? Yes? And 513 00:35:21.440 --> 00:35:25.519 then can I put my pants in your ears? Because to this day they 514 00:35:25.519 --> 00:35:29.679 still say it's not a sport. There's athletes the hardest. It's one of 515 00:35:29.760 --> 00:35:32.480 the hardest games. I think it's hardest. Is golf considered a sport? 516 00:35:34.679 --> 00:35:37.760 But thank you? I think that can be answered differently by how you engage 517 00:35:37.760 --> 00:35:42.400 with the game. Is it a sport or not? Absolutely? And how 518 00:35:42.480 --> 00:35:46.000 long have people been saying that it's not a sport until COVID, I think, 519 00:35:49.239 --> 00:35:52.800 well, I mean, just look at these athletes right on the LPGA 520 00:35:52.920 --> 00:35:54.559 or PGA. No, look at the athletes at all. One of the 521 00:35:54.679 --> 00:36:00.920 NBA players based you know, baseball basketball think they could hit the ball, 522 00:36:00.400 --> 00:36:04.480 couldn't hit the easy. He couldn't even touch it. And I finally got 523 00:36:04.519 --> 00:36:06.199 him hit it. He was hit a seven, nine, one fifty. 524 00:36:06.320 --> 00:36:09.599 But all my addicted, all my athletes that live in my homes, they 525 00:36:09.599 --> 00:36:14.360 always say, can chat teach me? Can chatt teach me? Because they 526 00:36:14.440 --> 00:36:16.920 think it's a sport. Thinks it's a sport. I think about it too 527 00:36:17.079 --> 00:36:21.920 post post career. If they're an NBA player or NFL player. Right, 528 00:36:21.960 --> 00:36:24.440 they're not playing these sports until they're fifty years old. They need a competitive 529 00:36:24.440 --> 00:36:28.800 atmosphere. How do they get that competitive outlet? And golf becomes for a 530 00:36:28.840 --> 00:36:30.440 lot of them. Yeah, Like I played with Lawrence all the time in 531 00:36:30.480 --> 00:36:35.039 Florida. Man, he just loves competing. He just came out that mental 532 00:36:35.079 --> 00:36:37.519 state. They just love to compete. You know a couple of NBA players 533 00:36:37.519 --> 00:36:40.920 that were in the bubble back in the pandemic right Orlando. They had a 534 00:36:40.920 --> 00:36:45.119 lot of time in between their games. They were this this fraternity where they 535 00:36:45.159 --> 00:36:49.599 really couldn't go anywhere. They were eating together. There were golf courses in 536 00:36:49.599 --> 00:36:52.719 that facility Gate. All they would do is play golfer. And the guys 537 00:36:52.719 --> 00:36:57.239 are young. But when the Ryder Cup came to the country club, Michael 538 00:36:57.280 --> 00:37:00.800 Jordan was in town, cam they that was with all of them hanging out 539 00:37:00.920 --> 00:37:05.000 like they were playing, they were watching. Then they would play their own 540 00:37:05.039 --> 00:37:07.440 games and they were having a ball. Yeah. Who fell off the balcony 541 00:37:07.480 --> 00:37:13.840 that year because he got so drunk. I will not say I keep that 542 00:37:13.840 --> 00:37:19.599 one. There's certain things I can't discuss, But I just want to say 543 00:37:19.639 --> 00:37:22.719 this because a lot of people say this, golf is not a sport. 544 00:37:22.039 --> 00:37:27.320 Have we said now, golf is a sport? Yes, okay, RD 545 00:37:27.360 --> 00:37:30.119 Golf's a sport. If anyone wants to argue that, go pick up a 546 00:37:30.119 --> 00:37:32.559 golf club, yeah and go shoot. Yeah, let me know if you 547 00:37:32.559 --> 00:37:36.280 can make a bird or a par I just I think you got to look 548 00:37:36.320 --> 00:37:37.599 at you know, the best players in the world and how they train and 549 00:37:37.639 --> 00:37:40.480 how they prepare themselves to be the best in the world. Right, it 550 00:37:40.519 --> 00:37:44.440 looks a lot different than it did years ago. Oh yeah, now everyone's 551 00:37:44.480 --> 00:37:46.599 at shay. It's a full times it's a full time job, it is. 552 00:37:47.599 --> 00:37:51.079 I have another dumb question. Sorry, this will be my last dumb 553 00:37:51.119 --> 00:37:52.880 work, I promised, Like, I'm sorry. We're out here hitting balls 554 00:37:52.920 --> 00:37:57.239 to our hands are bleeding. That's how much you have to practice. Did 555 00:37:57.280 --> 00:38:01.559 Tiger Woods change this game forever being one of the youngest guys to come out 556 00:38:01.599 --> 00:38:05.360 there and play the way he played. Yeah, you know at that time, 557 00:38:05.480 --> 00:38:08.679 he made it relevant for the next generation. Yep, no one worked 558 00:38:08.719 --> 00:38:14.519 out he started that. Okay, I'm done with my dumb questions. You 559 00:38:14.559 --> 00:38:19.679 know the pandemic, right, it was an unfortunate time, but great time 560 00:38:19.719 --> 00:38:22.320 for the golf. Well, it was a boon for the industry. It 561 00:38:22.360 --> 00:38:25.400 absolutely was, and I think it became relevant once again. I think there's 562 00:38:25.440 --> 00:38:29.199 been some changes, and I think this is why people don't want to go 563 00:38:29.320 --> 00:38:31.800 They want to do this. Don't go to work, go to work thing. 564 00:38:31.840 --> 00:38:34.840 Don't want to go to the office because they go to play golf. 565 00:38:34.880 --> 00:38:37.679 Okay, yeah, they' bring to laptops so there they do zoom calls. 566 00:38:37.760 --> 00:38:39.519 Yeah, I think you're seeing more rounds early in the morning and then more 567 00:38:39.599 --> 00:38:44.840 rounds at four o'clock in the afternoon than I agree. They're getting their licks 568 00:38:44.840 --> 00:38:47.760 in right, all right, So let's get back to this. What are 569 00:38:47.760 --> 00:38:53.000 some unique characteristics or features? A little dumb question? No, stupid question. 570 00:38:54.639 --> 00:38:57.960 Good, I have another one. I'll play it. No, I'm 571 00:38:57.960 --> 00:39:06.559 all done with my dumb questions to payroll. What are some unique characteristics or 572 00:39:06.679 --> 00:39:12.159 features of golf culture in Massachusetts compared to the other regions. So a couple 573 00:39:12.199 --> 00:39:16.199 things. Uh. One, I would start that two thirds of the facilities 574 00:39:16.239 --> 00:39:22.400 in Massachusetts are publicly accessible. So I think that's that's something we should champion, 575 00:39:22.480 --> 00:39:25.280 right, anyone can get on these facilities and enjoy the game. On 576 00:39:25.360 --> 00:39:29.480 top of that, let's talk about the territory of the state. Right, 577 00:39:30.000 --> 00:39:34.760 you go from Cape Cod, you know some tourists type attractions all the way 578 00:39:34.800 --> 00:39:44.559 to Western mass You've got two very different experiences. Exactly in between, we've 579 00:39:44.559 --> 00:39:49.679 got a plethora of nine hole venues. And to me, I think a 580 00:39:49.760 --> 00:39:55.039 nine hole venue allows for, you know, an easy way for folks to 581 00:39:55.320 --> 00:40:00.599 bake golf into their lifestyle. Right. It's a shorter experience, a little 582 00:40:00.679 --> 00:40:04.800 less intimidating in some respects. You can fit into your schedule whether you're you 583 00:40:04.800 --> 00:40:07.320 know, a working parent, right, You've you've got to juggle kids activities. 584 00:40:07.480 --> 00:40:09.360 Yet an hour and a half, an hour and a half go play 585 00:40:09.440 --> 00:40:12.960 night holes right now? For the listeners out there, where are a lot 586 00:40:12.960 --> 00:40:15.519 of these night whole courses? How about this? I gotta step in hold. 587 00:40:15.639 --> 00:40:17.519 I thought we're going to break on Cidney Stump and he listens to WBZ 588 00:40:17.679 --> 00:40:28.920 News Radio ten thirty. It'll be right back to you. Yeah, it's 589 00:40:29.000 --> 00:40:37.320 me again, would you know? And welcome back to Toughest Nails on WBZ 590 00:40:37.440 --> 00:40:40.760 News Radio ten thirty And I'm City STUMPO. I got another dumb question, 591 00:40:40.920 --> 00:40:45.679 Jess. We have too much to cover it, Okay, can you just 592 00:40:45.719 --> 00:40:47.519 come back next weekend so we can do a two part of here. Just 593 00:40:47.559 --> 00:40:51.960 make sure it's not seventy five degrees and sunny. Okay, it won't be, 594 00:40:52.159 --> 00:40:54.360 I promise, because I might be on the golf course with you. 595 00:40:54.360 --> 00:40:58.039 No, you won't be eight o'clock at night. You're not on the golf 596 00:40:58.039 --> 00:41:00.559 course eight o'clock. Yes, you are, actually all right. I can 597 00:41:00.599 --> 00:41:04.800 get on you absolutely boom. How do people get in touch you, Jesse 598 00:41:04.960 --> 00:41:08.440 Fast, our website maskolf dot org, or on social playmask golf. Repeat 599 00:41:08.480 --> 00:41:13.719 that, maskolf dot org. Our website and our social handles, play mask 600 00:41:13.800 --> 00:41:17.960 golf. One more time, maskolf dot org and our social handles play mask 601 00:41:19.039 --> 00:41:21.119 golf. And if you didn't get that, then I don't know what's wrong 602 00:41:21.119 --> 00:41:23.320 with you. People, have a great, safe weekend, and I'll see 603 00:41:23.320 --> 00:41:28.639 you next weekend. This is Cindy Stumpo toughes Nails WBZ News, raded ten thirty