WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.120 --> 00:00:03.640 For thirty five years, Cindy Stumpo has been a female home builder with a 2 00:00:03.680 --> 00:00:07.599 passion for design, a mastery of detail, and a commitment to her crack. 3 00:00:07.679 --> 00:00:10.919 With daughter Samantha Stumpo by her side, I don't need my whole family 4 00:00:10.960 --> 00:00:13.240 on a date with me. That's a good note. It's goddimn weird. 5 00:00:13.359 --> 00:00:17.480 See. Stump of Development is the only second generation female construction company in the 6 00:00:17.519 --> 00:00:22.160 country. You're crazy, You're a wacko, You're insane. I mean, 7 00:00:22.199 --> 00:00:26.359 it just doesn't end together. Cindy and Samantha welcome guests to explore the world 8 00:00:26.359 --> 00:00:30.519 of construction, real estate, development, design and more. I'm predictable. 9 00:00:30.640 --> 00:00:32.840 Every time I think I know what you want, you'd switch it out. 10 00:00:32.880 --> 00:00:36.439 But that's what makes your houses all You're to day discuss anything that happens between 11 00:00:36.439 --> 00:00:39.640 the roof and the foundation. Nothing is off limits. I you truly do 12 00:00:39.759 --> 00:00:42.439 care about everybody. Chicken yell at chicken scream. But when you get her 13 00:00:42.439 --> 00:00:46.240 alone, she's the best person on the planet. Cindy Stumpo is tough as 14 00:00:46.359 --> 00:00:55.840 nails and welcome to Toughest Nails on WBZ News Radio ten thirty and we have 15 00:00:56.039 --> 00:00:59.479 dragged Jesse back into the studio. Haven't seen it in a while. How 16 00:00:59.520 --> 00:01:00.799 you been a great thrilled to be back. Thank you. We tell the 17 00:01:00.840 --> 00:01:06.239 audience, I'm Jesse Manackham. I'm the executive director and CEO of Mass Golf. 18 00:01:06.400 --> 00:01:08.959 Okay, how many weeks it take for my producer to get you back 19 00:01:08.959 --> 00:01:12.400 in here? We did some negotiating. Okay, that's a good thing. 20 00:01:12.879 --> 00:01:15.799 Welcome back, Welcome back, Jesse. Sure, And I asked obviously for 21 00:01:15.959 --> 00:01:19.519 mister Chad stump Out to be back in here since golf is not anything that 22 00:01:19.599 --> 00:01:23.680 I should know everything about golf, right since my kids were playing it. 23 00:01:23.680 --> 00:01:26.319 It's a passion project for him. It's passion for him. But again it's 24 00:01:26.359 --> 00:01:30.040 not been cheap and never sending him to IMG Academy, right, So somebody's 25 00:01:30.040 --> 00:01:33.439 got to actually go to work to make the money to have done all this 26 00:01:33.599 --> 00:01:37.359 right, and then I could be honest chasing that ball around for like eight 27 00:01:37.400 --> 00:01:38.920 hours. I don't know how you guys do that, Like I could get 28 00:01:38.920 --> 00:01:42.519 a lot. So it's all mental And back to the MGA and all the 29 00:01:42.560 --> 00:01:48.719 amazing things they've done. What efforts are being made to attract and retain younger 30 00:01:48.719 --> 00:01:52.280 generations of golfers a mass. Yeah, I think it's you know, how 31 00:01:52.280 --> 00:01:59.200 can the game game be welcoming, inclusive, fun? You know mentioned programs 32 00:01:59.200 --> 00:02:01.719 earlier, first T Youth on course, you've got drive, chip and putt. 33 00:02:01.760 --> 00:02:05.760 You know, an initiative from the Masters, the USGA PG of America 34 00:02:05.879 --> 00:02:09.000 where any kid can sign up in a fun competition have the chance to play 35 00:02:09.000 --> 00:02:12.879 in the national finals. That a gust the national right, how good is 36 00:02:12.919 --> 00:02:15.759 that get On top of that, the PGA of America has a program called 37 00:02:15.800 --> 00:02:21.280 PGA Junior League, So it's basically like Little League Baseball for golf, where 38 00:02:21.319 --> 00:02:23.599 you've got some team competitions. They play in a fun, relaxed environment, 39 00:02:24.639 --> 00:02:30.280 travel around and I think it's a clever way to get kids engaged and enjoy 40 00:02:30.319 --> 00:02:35.439 the game together. On top of that, you know some off course activities 41 00:02:35.479 --> 00:02:39.039 that have been successful on ramps for the game. And we talked previously about 42 00:02:39.080 --> 00:02:44.039 top golf, drive shack. You've got you know, new technology and fused 43 00:02:44.039 --> 00:02:46.960 mini golf venues. Right to me, anytime you get a club in someone's 44 00:02:46.960 --> 00:02:50.639 hand, in a kid's hand, it's it's going to be impressionable, right, 45 00:02:50.639 --> 00:02:53.199 and it's an opportunity to get them to become an offer for life. 46 00:02:53.280 --> 00:02:55.199 Yep. So you guys do all like the physical stuff, teaching and all 47 00:02:55.280 --> 00:02:58.599 that. Now let's talk about the really important side of the game, the 48 00:02:58.599 --> 00:03:02.439 biggest six inches between the Do you guys do any work with mental mental side 49 00:03:02.439 --> 00:03:06.719 of golf as an organization, we don't. You know, it's not stacked 50 00:03:06.719 --> 00:03:10.960 into one of our services, but there's many groups out there that do you 51 00:03:10.960 --> 00:03:15.039 know, sports psychology is becoming a very big industry. You know, you've 52 00:03:15.080 --> 00:03:21.719 got organizations out there like core Golf and NATICK. You know Bill mcinernie involved 53 00:03:21.759 --> 00:03:24.400 as a as a coach, a teacher, ian highfield. I mean, 54 00:03:24.759 --> 00:03:28.039 this is an important part of the game that's going to allow kids to be 55 00:03:28.039 --> 00:03:32.120 successful playing, you know, at the highest level potentially yep. And now 56 00:03:32.319 --> 00:03:38.439 how with this also the technology in these kids? How's a game? In 57 00:03:38.479 --> 00:03:42.599 my opinion of courses are huge. The game is way more powerful than it's 58 00:03:42.599 --> 00:03:46.240 ever been. Do you think it's just the working out from the new generation 59 00:03:46.360 --> 00:03:50.879 or do you think these clubs are well corked up? Am I? In 60 00:03:51.000 --> 00:03:53.599 my words, I think it's a combination of things. I mean, the 61 00:03:53.599 --> 00:03:55.599 clubs I grew up playing on are nowhere near you know what, kids have 62 00:03:55.639 --> 00:04:00.439 available these days, right, So I think you've got to You've got to 63 00:04:00.479 --> 00:04:03.919 give a tip to the cap, to the technology, but also the way 64 00:04:04.000 --> 00:04:10.000 kids are working at it and kind of being instructed. You're you're seeing a 65 00:04:10.039 --> 00:04:13.560 lot more athleticism. For one, I think you're you're seeing you you talk 66 00:04:13.599 --> 00:04:16.160 about, you know, between the ears, right, some of these kids 67 00:04:16.199 --> 00:04:18.560 I see they're just fearless out there, right, They'll grip it and rip 68 00:04:18.600 --> 00:04:21.959 it. They don't care how hard or how fast they're swinging. They want 69 00:04:23.000 --> 00:04:25.759 the ball to go far. And that's the advantage that they're they're helping them. 70 00:04:25.839 --> 00:04:28.240 That's the old school way of teaching right there. In some respects. 71 00:04:28.319 --> 00:04:30.759 Yeah, you can't teach it. I twitch muscles at certain age. You 72 00:04:30.800 --> 00:04:35.720 got to grow up doing that. But also, where do you see this 73 00:04:35.759 --> 00:04:40.600 golf welb going with all this technology getting more head ball far, these courses 74 00:04:40.639 --> 00:04:43.399 getting longer. What do you see any stop to this? I don't know. 75 00:04:43.480 --> 00:04:46.160 I see technology just just being a major component to the advancement of the 76 00:04:46.160 --> 00:04:50.199 game. You know, whether that's for sustainability efforts right off course itself, 77 00:04:51.399 --> 00:04:55.399 you know, managing the game operationally, but you know, for swing, 78 00:04:55.439 --> 00:04:58.560 for mechanics, for coaching, it's here to stay. You know, the 79 00:04:58.639 --> 00:05:02.199 track man systems of the world, right, You're getting instantaneous data. That's 80 00:05:02.199 --> 00:05:04.800 what That's what people want in this world, in this in this day and 81 00:05:04.839 --> 00:05:08.480 age, right, And if that's going to help you, if that's going 82 00:05:08.519 --> 00:05:11.759 to help you advance in your career, no matter where that that may take 83 00:05:11.800 --> 00:05:15.120 you. I think it's going to show coaches, you know that you've got 84 00:05:15.120 --> 00:05:19.000 more than just a scoring record right from your competitive events. You know you 85 00:05:19.000 --> 00:05:24.279 can dial into the data of you know, your your up and down green 86 00:05:24.319 --> 00:05:27.680 and regulation. You know, you can really get hyper focused. Yeah. 87 00:05:28.519 --> 00:05:32.480 And so are any upcoming projects or initiatives that the MASK Associations are excited about. 88 00:05:35.439 --> 00:05:39.160 I would say, you know, really just collaboration with some of our 89 00:05:39.199 --> 00:05:44.319 affiliate organizations. We work very closely with the new ingle PGA US Challenge cup. 90 00:05:44.920 --> 00:05:48.000 I mentioned on the last show the US Development Program, and I think 91 00:05:48.000 --> 00:05:53.160 that's something we are really excited about. It's it's a new endeavor. Uh, 92 00:05:53.199 --> 00:05:56.399 it's going to create a whole new platform for junior golfers. So we're 93 00:05:56.399 --> 00:06:00.240 excited for year one to see where that that goes and hopefully it it can 94 00:06:00.279 --> 00:06:04.279 morph into something pretty big. And substantial for the state in your opinion. 95 00:06:04.920 --> 00:06:08.839 You know you've been around golf your whole life. Where do you want to 96 00:06:08.839 --> 00:06:15.000 see the golf world in Massachusetts go? I would love to see, you 97 00:06:15.000 --> 00:06:17.319 know, the sustainability of the game for one, right, keeping people in 98 00:06:17.399 --> 00:06:21.399 the game no matter at what stage in their career or life they're in. 99 00:06:21.879 --> 00:06:25.120 You know, if they have the ability to be competitive, great, If 100 00:06:25.160 --> 00:06:28.560 it's more of a recreational sport for them, nothing wrong with that, right, 101 00:06:28.600 --> 00:06:31.480 So how can we make sure for anyone interested in golf there's an outlet, 102 00:06:31.519 --> 00:06:34.879 there's an opportunity, there's a way for that to fit into their daily 103 00:06:34.920 --> 00:06:40.439 activity, right. I think we're starting to see the game become more relevant. 104 00:06:41.199 --> 00:06:44.079 We're seeing laps golfers come back into the game. We're seeing a lot 105 00:06:44.079 --> 00:06:47.480 of new golfers, golfers of you know, different diversity, a lot more 106 00:06:47.519 --> 00:06:50.759 women playing the game than ever before. So, you know, I keep 107 00:06:50.839 --> 00:06:55.519 saying that it's it's become relevant of it again. I think you know that's 108 00:06:55.519 --> 00:06:57.839 because you can you can make it what you want of it. Right, 109 00:06:57.879 --> 00:07:00.360 If it's an hour of practice and so fashion, you know, you don't 110 00:07:00.439 --> 00:07:03.800 have to play that traditional eighteen hole round anymore. You can play nine, 111 00:07:03.839 --> 00:07:06.639 you can play six holes. You know, a lot of facilities have a 112 00:07:06.639 --> 00:07:10.480 different, unique type of loop. You know, that'll get you started, 113 00:07:10.519 --> 00:07:13.040 get you back to the clubhouse in the car, and you can get home 114 00:07:13.079 --> 00:07:17.439 and make dinner. Stupid right there. But so, you know, playing 115 00:07:17.439 --> 00:07:19.759 golf in Florida and all around the world, you know, playing the European 116 00:07:19.800 --> 00:07:24.560 Tour, I see as diverse. It's very diverse out there, which is 117 00:07:24.600 --> 00:07:29.519 amazing. How is the diversity in golf in Massachusetts. It's improving, and 118 00:07:29.759 --> 00:07:31.800 you know, we're we're making some strides in that effort. We want to 119 00:07:31.800 --> 00:07:36.040 make sure our community is as diverse as it possibly can be. You know, 120 00:07:36.079 --> 00:07:42.240 if that's increasing, you know, first t programming in different parts pockets 121 00:07:42.240 --> 00:07:46.759 of the state, if it's increasing our ability to offer affordable access to kids 122 00:07:46.800 --> 00:07:50.240 through youth on course, we want to be champions of that. We want 123 00:07:50.240 --> 00:07:55.560 to work with facilities, with leadership around the state, with our affiliate organizations 124 00:07:55.600 --> 00:07:58.839 as well. There's more that can be done. I think we're just scratching 125 00:07:58.839 --> 00:08:03.360 the surface there. So something we're excited about. I love it. And 126 00:08:03.759 --> 00:08:05.920 for the golf world, you know, everyone thinks about golf, as you 127 00:08:05.959 --> 00:08:09.759 know, it is prima donnas sport and all that. What are the misconceptions 128 00:08:09.759 --> 00:08:16.639 are golf in your opinion, Well, I think you kind of hit the 129 00:08:16.920 --> 00:08:22.120 nail on the head. There are even well it's changed a lot, I 130 00:08:22.160 --> 00:08:26.319 mean, even from you know, I think the old, old traditions and 131 00:08:26.399 --> 00:08:30.600 such are starting to kind of morph into you know, the culture of where 132 00:08:30.600 --> 00:08:35.240 we are in twenty twenty four. You're seeing golf clothing look a lot different 133 00:08:35.279 --> 00:08:37.440 than I never did. You're seeing people engage in the game in a much 134 00:08:37.440 --> 00:08:39.799 different way. You know, you've got music out on the golf course and 135 00:08:39.919 --> 00:08:43.039 some some capacities. You know, that's not everyone's cup of tea, but 136 00:08:43.600 --> 00:08:46.799 you know there's some acceptance to that. You're seeing hoodies at the golf course, 137 00:08:46.879 --> 00:08:50.559 right, Yeah, So you know, little things like that I think, 138 00:08:50.720 --> 00:08:54.120 you know, are starting to get people more comfortable. Yeah, change 139 00:08:54.480 --> 00:08:58.960 attract a different audience. So it's not also uptight. They are a little 140 00:08:58.960 --> 00:09:03.159 more loose out there, welcome. But I do think there's a balance there, 141 00:09:03.240 --> 00:09:05.519 right, because you're you're bringing a lot of new people into the game. 142 00:09:05.679 --> 00:09:09.960 They may not be as educated with with etiquette and ways to treat the 143 00:09:09.960 --> 00:09:11.879 golf course. Things of that. Nature pace of play. Right, So 144 00:09:13.200 --> 00:09:16.000 somehow, you know, I think we have an obligation, along with other 145 00:09:16.039 --> 00:09:20.519 industry representatives, to make sure that we strike that balance and we continue to 146 00:09:20.600 --> 00:09:22.159 educate all that air playing the game. Okay, hold that thought. We're 147 00:09:22.159 --> 00:09:28.559 going to break sponsored by Floor and Decor, National Lumber, and Village Bang. 148 00:09:39.080 --> 00:09:43.440 You know. Welcome back to Tough Nails on WBC News Radio ten Thory 149 00:09:43.480 --> 00:09:46.759 and I'm Citney Stumpo, and I'm here with Angelina, and I'm here with 150 00:09:46.360 --> 00:09:50.960 and Jesse. I just may good question. I'm coming out of the last 151 00:09:50.960 --> 00:09:56.360 time I settle the dumb questions. I'm going back to dumb Okay, we're 152 00:09:56.360 --> 00:09:58.000 making the turn. We're making the turn. Yeah, I need I need 153 00:09:58.039 --> 00:10:01.120 some I need. Like all you people do is talk about golf. I 154 00:10:01.120 --> 00:10:03.559 know it's a golf show, but I'm like, okay, golf, golf. 155 00:10:03.759 --> 00:10:09.759 I listen, truthfully, you've been golfing your whole pretty much your whole 156 00:10:09.759 --> 00:10:16.720 life. So like you got married, you had children, and we're still 157 00:10:16.759 --> 00:10:20.600 playing Sage and Sunday's Golf. No oh, you were right, So it 158 00:10:20.679 --> 00:10:26.279 happened. What happened is we had we have several obligations and activities that are 159 00:10:26.320 --> 00:10:31.440 fun to be a part of. Right, I wouldn't be in politically correct 160 00:10:31.519 --> 00:10:35.679 yet. Well, but given seriousness, right, I mean, given the 161 00:10:35.759 --> 00:10:41.639 opportunity. Yeah. Like, I know when I was married, if if 162 00:10:41.720 --> 00:10:45.720 joking' golf that six days or golf five days and he wanted to golf, 163 00:10:46.240 --> 00:10:48.600 he'd pouts. So I'd be like, just go golf then, because it 164 00:10:48.679 --> 00:10:52.879 was worth it for you to go golf. Come back six hours later, 165 00:10:52.159 --> 00:10:56.440 and then you're not pouting anymore. Do you know what I'm saying? I 166 00:10:56.480 --> 00:11:00.120 do, I do, I go so there many times have you pouted with 167 00:11:00.200 --> 00:11:01.879 your wife like you really want to go golf and not do what she really 168 00:11:01.879 --> 00:11:05.480 wanted to do. I'm without causing it, right, I'm around golf. 169 00:11:07.200 --> 00:11:09.480 It's my job, it's my life. It's a passion, et cetera. 170 00:11:11.039 --> 00:11:16.279 You know, married eleven years, streak, he's being politically quirk to save 171 00:11:16.320 --> 00:11:18.519 his marriage right now. I don't know. I think Stephanie appreciates and understands. 172 00:11:18.639 --> 00:11:22.440 Okay, well, Stephanie, if you say to Stephanie like out of 173 00:11:22.440 --> 00:11:24.320 nowhere, you know, I really just want to go play eighteen holes and 174 00:11:24.399 --> 00:11:26.799 nine holes. We'll make it work. We'll figure it out. We'll figure 175 00:11:26.799 --> 00:11:33.679 it out so there's no ball break in like nose times, there can be 176 00:11:33.720 --> 00:11:37.919 sure. Yeah, but I pick my spots. How about that? Okay, 177 00:11:37.960 --> 00:11:41.759 that's a good thing. Yeah. So when do you believe that golfers 178 00:11:43.320 --> 00:11:46.559 to get to the next level have to be the most selfish people at some 179 00:11:46.679 --> 00:11:50.960 point until I get there. I think there's an argument for that. But 180 00:11:52.440 --> 00:11:58.240 for any sport or any high level profession, there's got to be some some 181 00:11:58.440 --> 00:12:03.000 self serving selfishness. The one thing I noticed with all my professional athletes, 182 00:12:03.000 --> 00:12:05.840 and god knows, in thirty six years, I've had many many, many 183 00:12:05.879 --> 00:12:11.080 come through Boston, whether they've been Bruins players, Soult's players, Red Sox 184 00:12:11.080 --> 00:12:16.320 players, not a lot of football players because they go out further out. 185 00:12:16.879 --> 00:12:20.639 I've noticed one thing in Calm with all the wives, they are behind those 186 00:12:20.679 --> 00:12:24.960 men, and a lot met to college. It seems like they prepare with 187 00:12:26.039 --> 00:12:28.440 the right meals, the right food right, and then when those men get 188 00:12:28.480 --> 00:12:33.360 to a higher level and they're making massive contracts, I see the chefs come 189 00:12:33.360 --> 00:12:35.240 in, but I see the women doing all the heavy lifting at home, 190 00:12:35.639 --> 00:12:43.200 the kids. This the that I had a player get traded, they lived 191 00:12:43.200 --> 00:12:48.200 in Brookline and didn't even know he's going to get traded and boom, she's 192 00:12:48.240 --> 00:12:52.120 got to send his He just goes right from the locker room and goes right 193 00:12:52.159 --> 00:12:54.600 to his next place, is going the next state, and the wife organizes 194 00:12:54.840 --> 00:12:58.320 his clothes to get to the next state. It's a tough job on the 195 00:12:58.320 --> 00:13:01.120 wives, no doubt. And it's it's to me. It's about the support 196 00:13:01.159 --> 00:13:05.679 system, right, So let's talk about let's think about the window of opportunity 197 00:13:05.840 --> 00:13:11.159 for any elite athlete, right, that might be from eighteen to twenty eight. 198 00:13:11.519 --> 00:13:15.919 There you go, eighteen to twenty eight. You've got to capitalize in 199 00:13:16.080 --> 00:13:18.960 ten years time, right, So you're going to need that support system to 200 00:13:20.000 --> 00:13:22.039 take care of those odds and ends, right and build a team that that's 201 00:13:22.080 --> 00:13:26.120 going to allow you to put your energy and focus in the training and the 202 00:13:26.159 --> 00:13:30.399 well being and the and the health the psychology that we talked about earlier. 203 00:13:31.320 --> 00:13:35.879 It's more than a full time job. You know, you're committing yourself to 204 00:13:35.919 --> 00:13:39.960 be at that level to capitalize on the return on investment. Right. Do 205 00:13:39.039 --> 00:13:45.559 you notice that golfers need more mental condition than others because it's just them, 206 00:13:45.879 --> 00:13:48.600 it's the ball. Yeah, I guess I would. I would respond in 207 00:13:48.639 --> 00:13:52.879 the club, yes, because it's also an individualized sport, correct, Yeah, 208 00:13:54.120 --> 00:13:58.200 and you have nobody but you right now. You got tennis like that, 209 00:13:58.360 --> 00:14:01.440 you have golf that's like and like Chad always says that, I know 210 00:14:01.480 --> 00:14:05.240 you've talked about it before. The ball out of eighteen holes is only in 211 00:14:05.240 --> 00:14:07.120 the year for how long? Three and a half minutes something like that, 212 00:14:07.480 --> 00:14:11.279 what is it? Three and a half minutes and you're only hitting what seventy 213 00:14:11.519 --> 00:14:15.759 shots? That's it. So you do a lot of walking, So you're 214 00:14:15.840 --> 00:14:18.679 doing car. He took a lot of walking and thinking. That's right. 215 00:14:20.159 --> 00:14:22.039 And when you're in a golfer's head when they're walking from the next hole, 216 00:14:22.200 --> 00:14:31.600 right, this is what I would say. Knowing certain astrology signs. Germany 217 00:14:31.679 --> 00:14:35.200 Is are probably I gotta look this up. How many pro golfers are Geminis 218 00:14:35.600 --> 00:14:39.120 because they can look in the front windshield against the cancer of the virgo that's 219 00:14:39.120 --> 00:14:41.960 always in the rear view mirror. I know. It's one thing about Chad 220 00:14:43.000 --> 00:14:46.320 through the years of playing, when that kid would shoot Birdie, he'd go 221 00:14:46.360 --> 00:14:50.240 another Birdie, Bertie. If you shoot a bogy, go another bugy bogy 222 00:14:50.399 --> 00:14:52.919 Right, let's go car look like circle, circle, circle, big boxes, 223 00:14:54.000 --> 00:14:58.759 big boxes. So I start to say to his dad, don't you 224 00:15:00.039 --> 00:15:03.039 see this is all his head out there? Like if he shoots one birdie 225 00:15:03.039 --> 00:15:05.559 shots another bird, he shoots another birdie. If he shoots a bog, 226 00:15:05.600 --> 00:15:07.120 he shoot a bogue, he shoots up because he's still in the rearview mirror. 227 00:15:07.120 --> 00:15:09.720 It's toughness, right, How do you shake that mindset? How do 228 00:15:09.759 --> 00:15:13.679 you get how do you you know, erase put in the rear view move 229 00:15:13.720 --> 00:15:16.000 on to the next. But that's what you need to do. Yeah, 230 00:15:16.039 --> 00:15:20.440 and you need the support system around you. We can't support him or any 231 00:15:20.440 --> 00:15:22.840 other golfer when they're We can't even talk to our kids. If I took 232 00:15:22.879 --> 00:15:26.320 my I remember he had long here. Remember we had here. Preparation is 233 00:15:26.360 --> 00:15:30.639 I'm never prepared. If I'm not prepared, you should. I remember had 234 00:15:30.720 --> 00:15:33.759 long here. And I went to give him my point heail holder, you 235 00:15:33.799 --> 00:15:37.320 know, and the official came right over to me, like, what do 236 00:15:37.360 --> 00:15:39.639 you think I'm giving him a point heal holder? Like the kid's fourteen years 237 00:15:39.639 --> 00:15:43.440 old. You can't be out there. The only one that can be talking 238 00:15:43.440 --> 00:15:46.720 to him is his caddy. And I think there in lies one of the 239 00:15:46.759 --> 00:15:50.519 Chad's biggest problems. He was so loyal to his caddy and all the sponsors 240 00:15:50.559 --> 00:15:56.480 and everybody on Chad's team and the European They want an older person on his 241 00:15:56.600 --> 00:16:02.519 bag. Trust Yet No, not that, not that his caddy wasn't He 242 00:16:02.600 --> 00:16:06.480 needs somebody that was stronger than him. Yeah, and that would have been 243 00:16:06.879 --> 00:16:10.679 somebody that had ten years on him at that time, somebody. If Chad 244 00:16:10.759 --> 00:16:12.879 was fifteen, sixteen, seventeen eighteen, the guy in his bag had to 245 00:16:12.879 --> 00:16:17.279 be twenty seven, nine thirty. There's nothing when I was just freshing caddy 246 00:16:17.360 --> 00:16:19.960 dynamic, right, yep. I mean, but in Chad's best friend with 247 00:16:21.039 --> 00:16:23.720 my brother oorsually you know, we're not thinking we're not friends anymore, but 248 00:16:25.720 --> 00:16:27.080 he was. It was It was a comfort zone for me, That's what 249 00:16:27.080 --> 00:16:30.279 it was. I didn't need someone to read my gramps from me or anything 250 00:16:30.320 --> 00:16:32.440 like that because I could do all that. And everyone's different, right, 251 00:16:32.480 --> 00:16:37.080 you might need that mentor type individual. Although Chad's loyalty okay, and Chad 252 00:16:37.159 --> 00:16:41.960 said I'm not going to play another game of golf if you try to take 253 00:16:41.039 --> 00:16:45.440 him off my back. That's loyalty federation. Other people just need someone to 254 00:16:45.440 --> 00:16:48.159 distract them, right, maybe to laugh throughout the four hours. That's what 255 00:16:48.200 --> 00:16:51.960 That's what I like. It can make me laugh to my ball then about 256 00:16:52.200 --> 00:16:55.639 fifty yards before my ball start got me, but yes, start get already 257 00:16:56.360 --> 00:17:00.720 on the PGA. Those guys got caddies, that are what they're professional caddies, 258 00:17:00.799 --> 00:17:03.400 right, that's their career, and their career is to do what what's 259 00:17:03.440 --> 00:17:07.119 a professional caddies job to do? Really keep you in the game, guide 260 00:17:07.200 --> 00:17:14.480 coach, you know, keep maybe focused, Yeah, give you the best 261 00:17:14.480 --> 00:17:18.200 information at hand. Would you say at a young age, it's important once 262 00:17:18.240 --> 00:17:22.880 they get to like sixteen, fifteen, sixteen seventeen, to have a good 263 00:17:22.920 --> 00:17:26.759 caddy with them. Yeah, if that's your I'd say, once you get 264 00:17:26.759 --> 00:17:30.160 to a certain level, yeah, exactly. Okay, well okay, if 265 00:17:30.200 --> 00:17:33.640 you get to that age, of that better level, and keep in mind 266 00:17:33.680 --> 00:17:36.720 to there's certain events, you know, college, you're carrying your own bag, 267 00:17:36.759 --> 00:17:40.680 correct, there's no caddies in college. A lot of high school events, 268 00:17:40.799 --> 00:17:45.039 same thing. You know, the local amateur scene we do allow caddies, 269 00:17:45.039 --> 00:17:47.759 but usually it's it's a friend, it's a girlfriend, a spouse, 270 00:17:47.799 --> 00:17:49.839 whatever it might be. I love. It was different for me because I 271 00:17:49.880 --> 00:17:52.720 was already playing pro events at fifteen out in Florida. So that's why I 272 00:17:52.759 --> 00:17:57.880 had my caddyes, because I like playing professional events then junior events where everyone's 273 00:17:57.920 --> 00:18:00.519 like, so, what you would you make on this? Would you make 274 00:18:00.519 --> 00:18:02.880 on this? Call for a check too? They just care about your money, 275 00:18:02.920 --> 00:18:04.440 That's it. There was a couple of things I didn't like, and 276 00:18:04.440 --> 00:18:08.559 I don't know if this is still going on. Chad would be on a 277 00:18:08.599 --> 00:18:12.119 computer before, you know, before we went to bed or early in the 278 00:18:12.119 --> 00:18:15.599 morning, and I'd be like, what are you looking at? And these 279 00:18:15.680 --> 00:18:18.920 older men and other kids, Oh, child's going to take this tournament. 280 00:18:18.920 --> 00:18:22.839 Our child's going to get wiped out. Stump was going to make this always 281 00:18:22.839 --> 00:18:25.400 going to get killed. I'm like, why are you reading that stuff? 282 00:18:25.440 --> 00:18:27.519 Like does that still go on? And why why were we doing that? 283 00:18:27.799 --> 00:18:33.880 We're talking like social media? Yea, yeah, yeah, I think that's 284 00:18:33.920 --> 00:18:37.880 the local stuff. Child. They were doing it, even the local stuff. 285 00:18:37.880 --> 00:18:40.599 They were playing that game on. Yeah. When I came back and 286 00:18:40.599 --> 00:18:42.640 I started playing like being on the European Door, I mean, yeah, 287 00:18:42.680 --> 00:18:47.480 it's going to happen. They're going to talk well that I would say to 288 00:18:47.559 --> 00:18:48.720 him. It was even younger, I remember, and I'd say shut that 289 00:18:48.759 --> 00:18:52.599 down. Shut that down. Don't look at It's not going to help you 290 00:18:52.680 --> 00:18:56.440 at all. It's not going to motivate. I mean, there may be 291 00:18:56.480 --> 00:19:00.000 some people that that it did. It used to feeling at a young age 292 00:19:00.000 --> 00:19:03.680 and stuff like that, but you know, at a certain age, talent 293 00:19:03.000 --> 00:19:07.480 just doesn't keep going. You know, I was that good? Is all 294 00:19:07.559 --> 00:19:10.160 talent? I was. I put the work in a little bit, but 295 00:19:10.200 --> 00:19:12.079 that was just talent. You know talent within a half an hour of watching 296 00:19:12.119 --> 00:19:15.599 it, And hold that thought and I'll let you answer when you come back. 297 00:19:15.640 --> 00:19:18.559 My microration, does you know talent when you see it right away? 298 00:19:18.799 --> 00:19:22.480 This is Cindy Stample and you listen to Top Sails on WBZ News Radio ten 299 00:19:22.519 --> 00:19:26.000 thirty, m b Right Back sponsored by Pellow Windows of Boston, Next Day 300 00:19:26.039 --> 00:19:53.440 Molding and Kennedy Carpet Came, Became the World, You Got, You Got, 301 00:19:57.200 --> 00:20:03.039 You Got, And welcome back to Tops Nails on WBZ News Radio ten 302 00:20:03.119 --> 00:20:10.839 thirty And I'm in the studio with who Angelina Chad Jesse. All right, 303 00:20:11.079 --> 00:20:14.680 let's go. Jesse. My question as we were going off to break last 304 00:20:14.680 --> 00:20:18.200 time was do you know talent from a mile away at this stage of the 305 00:20:18.240 --> 00:20:22.720 game. Do you know the kids that are talented? Yeah, I do. 306 00:20:22.839 --> 00:20:26.920 When I was running our events more regularly, i'd be around it much 307 00:20:26.960 --> 00:20:30.920 more and I was much more in tune. Now, I think just just 308 00:20:30.960 --> 00:20:33.279 being around the game for almost twenty years, I think I can point that 309 00:20:33.319 --> 00:20:37.039 out. But I'm no expert. I'm no teacher. I'm not a pizza 310 00:20:37.119 --> 00:20:41.960 professor. I get that. But yeah, I think it's you could see. 311 00:20:41.440 --> 00:20:45.440 In most cases, you can see. I gotta tell you, if 312 00:20:45.480 --> 00:20:48.920 I had a due over for Chad, I would have never let them go 313 00:20:48.960 --> 00:20:51.880 to IMG Academy. No. See, I got to disagree that. I 314 00:20:51.920 --> 00:20:55.160 know, no, that that actually shaped me. That actually got me technically 315 00:20:55.200 --> 00:20:57.759 sound. Even though I don't totally agree with the lead better swing, it 316 00:20:57.799 --> 00:21:02.559 got me technically sound. If I had to do over, I'm sorry, 317 00:21:02.599 --> 00:21:03.920 I gotta say it, I would have never had a girlfriend at eighteen. 318 00:21:04.640 --> 00:21:07.359 Okay, I just made it on the European Tour. I just made a 319 00:21:07.440 --> 00:21:11.720 horrible decision. That's where I should have been selfish. That's where I come 320 00:21:11.759 --> 00:21:15.640 back to what you said, do you need to be selfish in this game? 321 00:21:15.079 --> 00:21:18.480 That's when I should have chose to be selfish. Okay, your opinion 322 00:21:18.599 --> 00:21:23.519 that went Jesse because you know what, a young guy, well, he 323 00:21:23.559 --> 00:21:26.920 can't really have an opinion because it was my life. I chose him to 324 00:21:26.960 --> 00:21:29.640 do stupid things with that. It's a little personal, right yeah. But 325 00:21:29.839 --> 00:21:33.559 most guys that age, you're out of high school, you're doing stupid still, 326 00:21:33.599 --> 00:21:37.200 you know what I mean, It's time to do stupid right stupid? 327 00:21:37.599 --> 00:21:41.359 Yeah I didn't. So I was a goody two shoe and then that that 328 00:21:41.400 --> 00:21:44.240 world got introduced to me. At that time. What were your what was 329 00:21:44.279 --> 00:21:47.000 your north star? What were you hoping to achieve? You know it. 330 00:21:47.079 --> 00:21:52.039 I was on tour, I was playing unbelievable, I was winning everything around. 331 00:21:52.160 --> 00:21:55.119 When I was coming to Florida, I was just trying to just keep 332 00:21:55.160 --> 00:21:57.359 going. Yeah, I try to get to number one right there, and 333 00:21:57.519 --> 00:22:03.680 uh yeah, girl in my life, stop practicing smoking weed, drinking, 334 00:22:03.960 --> 00:22:07.200 doing drugs, doing stupid stuff. End up getting the yips on on Tori. 335 00:22:07.279 --> 00:22:10.880 Oh yeah for a couple of years. If I had to redo, 336 00:22:11.000 --> 00:22:12.799 that's my reado right there. I should have been selfish and just worried about 337 00:22:14.079 --> 00:22:17.000 Wow, I made it. We just did this. I just finished low 338 00:22:17.039 --> 00:22:21.759 amateur. My first European tour event was that also a circumstance of getting comfortable 339 00:22:21.759 --> 00:22:22.759 with a different part of the world, living in a different part of the 340 00:22:22.759 --> 00:22:26.319 world. That was the whole kick that I would have just stayed. I 341 00:22:26.319 --> 00:22:30.279 would have stayed adjustment. Well, now he lived there tomorrow, because now 342 00:22:30.319 --> 00:22:33.279 he's twenty nine, and now you know, at twenty five, if I 343 00:22:33.319 --> 00:22:37.119 had the if I have a game that I had a seventeen, when I 344 00:22:37.119 --> 00:22:41.279 played at twenty five with that mindset twenty six, I would have moved there. 345 00:22:42.799 --> 00:22:45.599 But you know what they say, that was a big demise a couple 346 00:22:45.599 --> 00:22:48.720 of years. Got to get out of the rear view mirror, got to 347 00:22:48.759 --> 00:22:51.839 move forward. I ripped it off. It's gone. You ripped off the 348 00:22:51.880 --> 00:22:55.880 beage. But you can tell talent. Yeah, yeah, I'm not an 349 00:22:55.880 --> 00:22:59.119 expert again, but you can see someone has a talent with a swing and 350 00:22:59.160 --> 00:23:00.319 all that. But it's a lot different. You have to have a special 351 00:23:00.400 --> 00:23:03.640 kind of mind to play this game. Now, if you have a talent 352 00:23:03.680 --> 00:23:07.119 of mind, that's a big difference. Okay, I've got a question. 353 00:23:07.839 --> 00:23:15.200 How does the Mass Golf Association address issues with accessibility and affordability within the sport. 354 00:23:17.480 --> 00:23:19.759 Yeah, we're a community for any golfer, right, no matter age. 355 00:23:19.880 --> 00:23:26.640 Gender, you know, diverse background. Anybody I talked I think in 356 00:23:26.680 --> 00:23:32.160 our last show about the affordability piece in our youth program of youth on course 357 00:23:32.200 --> 00:23:34.640 where we're subsidizing rounds of golf, so kids paying no more than five dollars 358 00:23:34.640 --> 00:23:38.319 per round. That's that to us is something for the future, right We're 359 00:23:38.319 --> 00:23:45.119 building our future golfers, our future members, breaking down a barrier of entry, 360 00:23:45.200 --> 00:23:48.680 if you will. Also with First T, you know, if if 361 00:23:48.720 --> 00:23:52.519 any kid who wants to participate in First T has any financial challenges, we're 362 00:23:52.519 --> 00:23:55.599 going to support that. We're going to take care of that in some way, 363 00:23:55.680 --> 00:24:00.519 shape or form. Accessibility. There's quite a few programs right now in 364 00:24:00.599 --> 00:24:03.200 this space, some of which we support. We own and operate a par 365 00:24:03.279 --> 00:24:08.960 three golf course in Norton where we have several groups that are taking advantage and 366 00:24:10.240 --> 00:24:15.240 enjoying the experience. There's groups like Golf for All. The New England PGA 367 00:24:15.960 --> 00:24:21.200 has a branch where they're offering accessible programs and such. So you know, 368 00:24:22.039 --> 00:24:25.240 you even look at on the national level, the USGA just rolled out an 369 00:24:25.279 --> 00:24:29.519 adaptive Championship. You know, this is an area that they've been working on 370 00:24:29.559 --> 00:24:32.759 for the past five years. There's a lot to it to put on an 371 00:24:32.759 --> 00:24:36.880 adaptive event, you know, from a logistics and operations standpoint. Okay, 372 00:24:37.079 --> 00:24:40.160 it goes to my next question. Yeah, how important is a community engagement 373 00:24:40.240 --> 00:24:47.039 and outreach from Massachusetts Golf Association. It's vital, It's absolutely vital. Yeah, 374 00:24:47.119 --> 00:24:52.039 I mean, we want to be the outlet for any golfer no matter 375 00:24:52.119 --> 00:24:56.000 how you engage in the game. If you're twelve years old, if you're 376 00:24:56.039 --> 00:24:59.319 seventy two years old, if you're a fan of the game, if you're 377 00:24:59.319 --> 00:25:03.359 an elite compet editor, we have an option in a way for you to 378 00:25:03.480 --> 00:25:06.920 engage in the sport, and we want to grow that community. We want 379 00:25:06.960 --> 00:25:12.240 to support those that want to participate. Is that what donuts? Certainly with 380 00:25:12.359 --> 00:25:18.839 donors corporations donating, we do, We absolutely do. Unfortunately, balls are 381 00:25:18.839 --> 00:25:22.200 expensive, clubs are expensive. It's not you know, buying a basketball and 382 00:25:22.240 --> 00:25:26.559 the basketball in net, right, Golf's expensive exactly. Yeah, So like 383 00:25:27.119 --> 00:25:30.440 the companies that you know, they get rid of this line of golf clubs, 384 00:25:30.440 --> 00:25:33.480 like we're looking for a stupid golf club for chatity, how to have 385 00:25:33.680 --> 00:25:41.119 right on every was your big brother, big you're talking nineties and five. 386 00:25:41.440 --> 00:25:45.799 We found it like we weren't ever used. And then he got I get 387 00:25:45.839 --> 00:25:51.880 it, and one was I didn't even screw it like I took it out. 388 00:25:52.279 --> 00:25:55.960 It was a half a screw like before a tournament. But he got 389 00:25:55.960 --> 00:26:00.400 the new ones. But before But when these companies and they just stop making 390 00:26:00.599 --> 00:26:06.000 a club, but they still have hundreds and hundreds of thousands and thousands in 391 00:26:06.000 --> 00:26:07.680 the warehouse, they do they give them away? Do they? Yeah? 392 00:26:07.759 --> 00:26:11.480 I think depending on the organization, there's channels that they go through, you 393 00:26:11.480 --> 00:26:15.079 know, to make sure that those clubs can get get utilized. For us, 394 00:26:15.559 --> 00:26:19.240 we've got sets upon sets. We offer donations of clubs, you know, 395 00:26:19.440 --> 00:26:22.359 if people have not you guys got sets and sets we do, and 396 00:26:22.400 --> 00:26:26.400 we put them to use, you know, through these junior programs. And 397 00:26:26.599 --> 00:26:30.799 is that people donating the clubs they buy new clubs exactly? Yeah? And 398 00:26:30.960 --> 00:26:37.559 balls balls to an extent. Yeah, And what about like shoes golf shoes, 399 00:26:37.599 --> 00:26:40.599 I'd probably put in that same category with balls. I mean, you 400 00:26:40.640 --> 00:26:44.319 can only use shoes so much, right, so they wear out or you 401 00:26:44.359 --> 00:26:47.880 gotta change the spikes. But you know, I was actually just thinking of 402 00:26:48.039 --> 00:26:49.200 questions, just pop out them to my mind because I've been watching a lot 403 00:26:49.240 --> 00:26:55.920 of ESPN, a lot of college sports, and in the golf world. 404 00:26:56.000 --> 00:26:59.400 So like you know, there's female golf and it's become more open and females 405 00:26:59.440 --> 00:27:03.079 that common all. Uh with all this, you know, gender change and 406 00:27:03.119 --> 00:27:07.240 everything. Do you see yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. 407 00:27:07.240 --> 00:27:10.559 Do you see that playing in golf role? Yeah, I think it 408 00:27:10.640 --> 00:27:15.240 has. We've seen it recently in college sports. Let me ask that question. 409 00:27:15.359 --> 00:27:23.839 Yeah. So basically we'll take a trenchender man to a woman. He 410 00:27:23.880 --> 00:27:27.359 definitely has more strength than a woman. Does. I have the same problem 411 00:27:27.359 --> 00:27:30.720 with swimming. So this is me talking. Nobody takes any heat for what 412 00:27:30.799 --> 00:27:34.720 I have to say. This is me, Cindy Stump for talking. Okay, 413 00:27:36.319 --> 00:27:40.240 you are a man. You're swimming against women, when you're playing golf 414 00:27:40.279 --> 00:27:44.079 against women. You are stronger than I am. You can take that ball 415 00:27:44.079 --> 00:27:45.920 off the teeth, asset and how to than I can and longer. Right, 416 00:27:48.000 --> 00:27:49.559 But this is the new world that we live in, right, So 417 00:27:52.119 --> 00:27:56.279 man, it can be girls anything else. It's really and it's going to 418 00:27:56.319 --> 00:27:59.559 open up to the golf community too. It's about access and opportunity. Yeah, 419 00:27:59.599 --> 00:28:02.240 That's why I was ask where are we seeing I'm just going to be 420 00:28:02.359 --> 00:28:06.319 very much careful on the delivery in that one. I think what you said 421 00:28:06.400 --> 00:28:10.680 is fair. There's organizations and policies in place too, but a lot of 422 00:28:10.720 --> 00:28:14.519 people in the and the swimming community does not think it's fair. There are 423 00:28:14.559 --> 00:28:18.839 absolutely two camps, okay, And what is the consensus on the golf community. 424 00:28:18.839 --> 00:28:22.119 And again, not holding anything you say for your company, I'm just 425 00:28:22.200 --> 00:28:25.920 asking you a personal opinion because I haven't been haven't been paying attention to the 426 00:28:25.920 --> 00:28:30.039 swimming community. I have for some reason basting. Is it a problem? 427 00:28:30.119 --> 00:28:33.720 Yeah? Broadcast but out there okay, So I shall ask you. That's 428 00:28:33.720 --> 00:28:34.720 why I was asking, because I'm not I haven't been in the golf well 429 00:28:34.759 --> 00:28:37.759 in a couple of years, and I see all this going on. I 430 00:28:37.799 --> 00:28:41.599 go for the people listeners out there, like is are they accepting? They 431 00:28:41.720 --> 00:28:44.279 do? They have certain things for it, Like what's going on? Do 432 00:28:44.319 --> 00:28:49.000 we see it? I think even you know, just recently there was a 433 00:28:49.039 --> 00:28:55.039 women's golf tour I want to say out in Arizona that reverse their posture on 434 00:28:55.640 --> 00:29:00.759 a trans player where they're no longer allowing them to anticipate where they did previously. 435 00:29:02.799 --> 00:29:04.160 But there are organizations that that do permit it. You know, you've 436 00:29:04.160 --> 00:29:11.599 got to go through the proper protocols and channels and transitional times, you know, 437 00:29:11.640 --> 00:29:14.519 and that's something that we are currently working on right now. Right How 438 00:29:14.799 --> 00:29:18.680 are we going to support a trans athlete, you know, to participate in 439 00:29:18.720 --> 00:29:22.599 our events? You know, in a lot of ways, we are aligned 440 00:29:22.599 --> 00:29:26.920 with the USGA, you know, because a competitor could be playing in a 441 00:29:26.920 --> 00:29:33.279 mass golf event or USJA qualifier in Massachusetts that could get them on the national 442 00:29:33.359 --> 00:29:37.519 scene at a USGA event. So in all likelihood we'll do a weekend to 443 00:29:37.559 --> 00:29:41.680 follow their policy or procedure. But it's a challenging thing to overcome, and 444 00:29:41.720 --> 00:29:45.079 I think at the end of the day, we want to be inclusive and 445 00:29:45.279 --> 00:29:49.039 provide an opportunity for golfers to compete. I think that's that was the most 446 00:29:49.599 --> 00:29:52.400 correct dance I've ever heard out of everybody's mouth. I think we handled it 447 00:29:52.599 --> 00:29:55.960 just perfectly. Fine, Okay, we're going to break on that one. 448 00:29:55.960 --> 00:29:59.920 All right. This is Cindy Stumbling listening Toughest Nails in WBZ News Radio attempt. 449 00:30:00.119 --> 00:30:03.079 He will be right back. Sponsored by new Brook Realty Group, Boston, 450 00:30:03.119 --> 00:30:11.440 would smaller insurance World Auto Body and Tosca Drive Auto body one kiss, 451 00:30:11.160 --> 00:30:22.720 Wow, and welcome back to Tap his Nails on WBZ News Radio ten thirty 452 00:30:22.759 --> 00:30:29.400 And I'm here with Angelina, Chad Jesse Minochem start again. Which last name? 453 00:30:29.799 --> 00:30:33.240 Angelina Gorilla going into stump? Oh, okay, Chad, And what 454 00:30:33.279 --> 00:30:37.079 does she do? I need a ring first, future wife, that's what 455 00:30:37.160 --> 00:30:40.440 you say. Yeah, and you need a ring, you golf widow. 456 00:30:40.519 --> 00:30:44.160 Yeah, he does have a beautiful girlf and we got to give it, 457 00:30:44.200 --> 00:30:48.240 right, she's more beautiful on the inside. Schauscer, Okay, she is. 458 00:30:48.160 --> 00:30:52.160 I actually like that. So that's a good thing. Right, that's 459 00:30:52.160 --> 00:30:53.759 a good thing coming from me. One time I found someone has morals and 460 00:30:53.799 --> 00:30:59.799 it's a good person. Well say that's morals values, old school sponsored with 461 00:31:00.000 --> 00:31:03.480 liable, dependable. That's all the stuff that everybody needs to make the next 462 00:31:03.519 --> 00:31:08.640 generation healthy kids and what you're raising because you're raising like I don't even know 463 00:31:08.640 --> 00:31:11.160 what these kids can turn out to be. But anyways, they might be 464 00:31:11.160 --> 00:31:14.519 playing golf on the moon. I don't know. They might never leave the 465 00:31:14.519 --> 00:31:18.240 house. They'll play the video games on the golf. But anyway, back 466 00:31:18.319 --> 00:31:22.240 to golf. Okay, Jesse, here's what I want to know. I 467 00:31:22.359 --> 00:31:25.240 want to know all the events that are coming up. What do you got 468 00:31:25.279 --> 00:31:30.960 coming up? Talk do you think and let the lissas know and understand if 469 00:31:30.960 --> 00:31:34.920 the kids want to participate, how they get involved. Blah blah blah. 470 00:31:36.039 --> 00:31:37.960 Yeah. So the beauty of mass Golf is we've got an event for everybody. 471 00:31:38.039 --> 00:31:41.559 You know, whether you're an elite competitor playing in a state championship or 472 00:31:41.640 --> 00:31:47.359 you just want to play in a casual tournament type setting. So you know, 473 00:31:47.480 --> 00:31:51.599 from Chad's perspective, we've got the state championship level of play from the 474 00:31:51.640 --> 00:31:55.880 Mass Open to the Mass Amateur and Midam to the Women's Amateur, where you'll 475 00:31:55.880 --> 00:32:00.720 see top collegiate players, mid am players, and seniors competing. We have 476 00:32:00.759 --> 00:32:06.400 tournaments, we have mixed events, we have our Member Days, which allows 477 00:32:06.440 --> 00:32:10.000 for access for any member of mass Golf to enjoy an experience at a public 478 00:32:10.039 --> 00:32:15.160 facility within the state. And then we've got junior competition, so our Junior 479 00:32:15.160 --> 00:32:20.440 Amateur Championship, Girls Junior, our young golfers thirteen and under. So, 480 00:32:21.000 --> 00:32:23.759 like I said, any age, any type of competition, we've got it. 481 00:32:24.480 --> 00:32:28.319 I do want to touch though. We've got a couple of high profile 482 00:32:28.359 --> 00:32:32.960 events coming to Massachusetts very fortunate the last couple of years. Yeah, well 483 00:32:34.119 --> 00:32:37.720 the first one here is the LPGA Tour. They are coming back after about 484 00:32:37.720 --> 00:32:43.240 a thirty year hiatus. They'll be playing over Labor Day weekend at TPC Boston 485 00:32:43.279 --> 00:32:45.880 for the FM Global Cha. Last time we the here, wasn't it the 486 00:32:45.960 --> 00:32:49.359 Welchers or something like that over Hill Hell yeah's right, Yeah, that's right. 487 00:32:49.400 --> 00:32:52.599 So really exciting to have that back in play. There's a lot of 488 00:32:52.599 --> 00:32:57.039 support in around Boston within the community. You know, our office is in 489 00:32:57.039 --> 00:33:00.119 that backyard, so we're doing a lot to support them and excited for what 490 00:33:00.160 --> 00:33:04.759 that stage and platform can offer. You know, we've got the likes of 491 00:33:05.119 --> 00:33:07.519 Megan Kang, you know, one of our own who grew up in Massachusetts, 492 00:33:07.519 --> 00:33:10.720 playing on the LPGA Tour. She won her first event I think about 493 00:33:10.720 --> 00:33:15.279 a year ago up in Canada, so we'll be rooting her on, but 494 00:33:15.160 --> 00:33:20.519 that'll be special. And then we've been on a little bit of a sequence 495 00:33:20.519 --> 00:33:22.640 with the USGA. You know, we had the US Open just a couple 496 00:33:22.680 --> 00:33:27.759 of years ago at Brookline. We had the US Senior Amateur at Catansit. 497 00:33:27.839 --> 00:33:32.160 We had the US Midamateur over on Nantucket at Sancity Head. This coming year, 498 00:33:32.319 --> 00:33:37.880 Brayburn is hosting the US Women's Mid Am Championship, so that's right, 499 00:33:38.559 --> 00:33:44.200 this is one of two championships that the club's hosting. Then in twenty twenty 500 00:33:44.240 --> 00:33:47.640 eight they're going to host the US Women's Amateur Championship. So really the best 501 00:33:47.640 --> 00:33:52.839 females from around the country, around the world. We'll be writing Newton Center, 502 00:33:52.880 --> 00:33:58.839 Newton Corner. So really, you know, two staples in the women's 503 00:33:58.960 --> 00:34:02.079 calendar and to look forward to in twenty twenty four. And Megan, good 504 00:34:02.160 --> 00:34:06.240 luck out there. I wish you all the best. Love to see another 505 00:34:06.279 --> 00:34:13.719 mass resident, no doubt, okay again? And what about parents that their 506 00:34:13.800 --> 00:34:16.599 kids are just starting how can they get into these events if they don't know 507 00:34:16.599 --> 00:34:22.239 how to do it as a participant. Through our website maskolf dot org also 508 00:34:22.360 --> 00:34:28.960 first tmass dot dot com, we have first t programming, youth on course 509 00:34:29.239 --> 00:34:34.360 accessibility programming. I would also encourage you know those for looking for more competition 510 00:34:34.440 --> 00:34:37.960 in the junior space. The US Challenge Cup, the New England PGA, 511 00:34:37.480 --> 00:34:42.239 they have two very strong junior tours yep. And I grew up with the 512 00:34:42.239 --> 00:34:45.639 folks out there. I grew up playing those and there's a strong competition run 513 00:34:45.679 --> 00:34:50.639 by great people and honestly it's just unbelievable terms all around. I had a 514 00:34:50.639 --> 00:34:53.320 blast playing them and they shaped me to where I got my career from. 515 00:34:53.360 --> 00:35:00.679 What ages did you feel that from twelve eleven, twelve to seventeen to sixteen, 516 00:35:00.760 --> 00:35:02.480 right before I went to Europe? And what was the hottest year is 517 00:35:02.559 --> 00:35:08.599 with you playing? When did you feel the competition getting heavier? Oh? 518 00:35:08.519 --> 00:35:13.119 When I went to IMG fourteen, Yeah, fourteen to fifteen, I went 519 00:35:13.119 --> 00:35:15.840 down South, so I saw the top of the top golfers. I was 520 00:35:15.880 --> 00:35:20.599 the top of top down South. But I went to the number one sports 521 00:35:20.599 --> 00:35:22.480 school. I went to No. One sports school in the world. I 522 00:35:22.480 --> 00:35:25.360 went to IMG and then I went to Gary Golchrist and so I saw some 523 00:35:25.400 --> 00:35:30.000 of the best I had Jesus Roots Patrick went there in my place. I 524 00:35:30.039 --> 00:35:34.599 saw Peter u Line at IMG. Do you believe how many clients send their 525 00:35:34.639 --> 00:35:37.639 kids to IMG lot They've had a heck of an operation and yeah, I 526 00:35:37.679 --> 00:35:40.800 mean, and the place looks completely different than when Mike Kid went to school. 527 00:35:40.840 --> 00:35:45.519 Theather it's changed so much in ten years. But like Morgan Hoffman went 528 00:35:45.519 --> 00:35:52.039 to Gary Goo Christ. Yeah, what you're feeling on that just as. 529 00:35:52.119 --> 00:35:55.599 Okay, this has nothing to do with with with masks. If your son 530 00:35:55.760 --> 00:35:59.079 was a golf and said I want to go to IMG one of those, 531 00:35:59.280 --> 00:36:02.519 you know, would you send him if that's the path that you know he 532 00:36:02.760 --> 00:36:08.760 or our daughter would be looking for. You know, I don't know enough 533 00:36:08.800 --> 00:36:13.559 about them right as a as a dad, right if that's the right platform 534 00:36:13.599 --> 00:36:17.840 for them. But if they're you know, hard and fast on pursuing a 535 00:36:19.400 --> 00:36:22.199 career at the highest level of golf, you know I would want to do 536 00:36:22.239 --> 00:36:25.480 as much as I can to support that. Okay, even if you here's 537 00:36:25.599 --> 00:36:32.239 my take on golf. As again, it's only my opinion. I think 538 00:36:32.280 --> 00:36:37.920 golf is a game like any other sport, but especially golf. You don't 539 00:36:37.960 --> 00:36:43.159 have to become a PGA player to always be able to make a living with 540 00:36:43.280 --> 00:36:45.480 golf. And let me explain to you why Check could go. He could 541 00:36:45.519 --> 00:36:50.039 be a teacher. He could be teaching, he could be one a pro 542 00:36:50.159 --> 00:36:52.519 shop. You could own a pro shop. There's many other avenues, but 543 00:36:52.639 --> 00:36:59.719 the big one for me is I literally could send him out five days a 544 00:36:59.719 --> 00:37:06.639 week playing with my clients, tournaments, sending how much for Chad can Chad 545 00:37:06.679 --> 00:37:12.000 teach me? My clients would keep pulling him in every country club event so 546 00:37:12.039 --> 00:37:15.760 they could win the fourth son right and be the big shots on the on 547 00:37:15.880 --> 00:37:19.719 the There's a lot of ways to the game here, but here here's the 548 00:37:19.719 --> 00:37:24.199 big one. For any business, there's more deals made on a golf course 549 00:37:24.760 --> 00:37:30.800 than anywhere else in any boardroom in this country. Okay, you get out 550 00:37:30.800 --> 00:37:34.199 there and you play golf and you have that scotch, you're lighting that cigara, 551 00:37:34.519 --> 00:37:39.159 you're not overdoing the drinking, and you're playing on the attention to that 552 00:37:39.480 --> 00:37:44.920 office. No, you cannot know. You cannot. So my point is 553 00:37:45.679 --> 00:37:50.239 just because your daughter or your son doesn't become the next PGA, you know 554 00:37:51.159 --> 00:37:58.920 phenom it is for business. It's a great tool. So I'm always telling 555 00:37:58.960 --> 00:38:00.239 Chad, okay, need you go pay play for Village Bank? And I 556 00:38:00.239 --> 00:38:04.760 need you. And he shoots a hole in one and my president of my 557 00:38:04.840 --> 00:38:08.079 bank is going jumping up and down because he had never saw anybody shoot a 558 00:38:08.079 --> 00:38:12.679 hole in one. There's Chad, right, and he was like going crazy, 559 00:38:12.760 --> 00:38:15.239 calling me like you sound your shot a whole one. But again, 560 00:38:15.840 --> 00:38:22.320 golf also I think makes a man out of a of a boy and makes 561 00:38:22.320 --> 00:38:27.920 a woman out of a girl. But more for the boys because they have 562 00:38:27.960 --> 00:38:32.039 to learn responsibility and they and the one thing about golf is very It's a 563 00:38:32.159 --> 00:38:36.639 very respectful, right, That's where I was going. It's a very It's 564 00:38:36.679 --> 00:38:40.760 a gentleman sport. It has always been a gentleman sport and it probably will 565 00:38:40.760 --> 00:38:45.320 stay a gentleman sport. Right. There's no throwing your baseball bat like Chad 566 00:38:45.360 --> 00:38:47.239 would do. Right when you play baseball, well, and think about it 567 00:38:47.239 --> 00:38:51.719 too, right, you're taking it helmet off and throwing it, calling a 568 00:38:51.760 --> 00:38:53.880 penalty on yourself if you do that, you know. So. I just 569 00:38:53.880 --> 00:38:59.159 think that golf. I think that it's the honor system. I think golf 570 00:38:59.679 --> 00:39:04.320 brings a core that some of the sports just don't bring. And I don't 571 00:39:04.320 --> 00:39:08.400 think it could hurt your child being out there in for eight hours, out 572 00:39:08.440 --> 00:39:15.280 there golfing and doing something constructive and doing stupid stuff. It's a lifetime. 573 00:39:16.920 --> 00:39:22.360 It adds so much. It brings so much to the table. I know 574 00:39:23.719 --> 00:39:29.119 absolutely how to hold myself accountable. I don't know about the cod pop. 575 00:39:29.239 --> 00:39:32.039 I'll give you the accountable. Pot was still learning. But what it did 576 00:39:32.119 --> 00:39:37.440 give him was he knew how to shake a man's hand at twelve years old 577 00:39:37.639 --> 00:39:44.599 and look him in the eye. He knew how to be with older people 578 00:39:44.880 --> 00:39:50.239 from golf and sit down the country club in the clubhouse with his dad and 579 00:39:50.280 --> 00:39:53.320 carry himself with me and and thank you and please and all the things that 580 00:39:53.360 --> 00:39:55.679 I would have taught him at home, because I'd be like, go get 581 00:39:57.199 --> 00:40:00.639 the life. No. I came home from a IMG said, y'all, 582 00:40:00.679 --> 00:40:02.559 thank you, sir, ma'am. She's like, who's this kid? Lee, 583 00:40:02.960 --> 00:40:06.920 I'm like, please, thank you, Who's he? But anyways, 584 00:40:06.920 --> 00:40:08.239 we're going to break. I'm Sidney Stumpley. He listen the Toughest Nails on 585 00:40:08.360 --> 00:40:30.000 w BZ News Radio ten thirty and We'll be right back. Don't cold. 586 00:40:30.159 --> 00:40:35.519 I'm on Gemma got out up and I'm Sinny stumping You. Listen the Toughest 587 00:40:35.599 --> 00:40:38.679 Nails on w BZ News Radio ten thirty. Jesse, how do people leat 588 00:40:38.719 --> 00:40:42.119 you? Well, let me first off just say thanks, it's great to 589 00:40:42.159 --> 00:40:47.960 be with team Stumpo here. Love it with Chad and Cindy. Obviously mask 590 00:40:49.039 --> 00:40:52.360 golf, you know we are we are the community within Massachusetts to engage with 591 00:40:52.360 --> 00:40:57.119 the game, to be part of the sport and and to enjoy the sport. 592 00:40:57.199 --> 00:41:00.599 However, that you know fits into your lifestyle. So our website massolf 593 00:41:00.679 --> 00:41:05.239 dot org. Check us out, become a member. Make today a golf 594 00:41:05.320 --> 00:41:07.159 day. That's our phrase, right, so whatever that means, if it's 595 00:41:07.199 --> 00:41:12.199 an hour of practice, it's nine whole rounds or going out with you know, 596 00:41:12.239 --> 00:41:15.800 a couple of generations and enjoying yourself in what we have to offer here 597 00:41:15.800 --> 00:41:17.960 in the Commonwealth. And congratulations. Let me shake your hand on your new 598 00:41:17.960 --> 00:41:22.320 position. You deserve the money, can't. I gotta go out. We 599 00:41:22.360 --> 00:41:24.800 have a great, safe week and everybody, we'll see you next weekend. 600 00:41:24.840 --> 00:41:29.159 This is Cindy Stumbo Top his Nails on WBZ News Radio ten thirty