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Attention. You're listening to a Tod
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not bitter Talk radio. Be advised. The content of this program has been

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documented to prevents and even cure liberalism, and listening may cause you to lean

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to the right. Here's your conservative
but not bitter host, Todd Huff.

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All right, my friends, you
have tuned in to America's home for conservative

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not bitter talk. It is my
pleasure to be here. Thank you for

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joining us. I used to say
I don't care what you believe, and

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I don't to some degree, but
I absolutely do in others as well,

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because those beliefs, it turns out, impacts the ability of this country to

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remain free. My friends, but
I don't care if you have. I

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have leftists leanings, liberal beliefs.
I hope that you're a constitutional conservative.

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But if you're not, and if
you have other beliefs, I promise you

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so long it is as it is
up to me, you and I could

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get along just fine. I've learned
that, of course, many leftists have

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a major problem with this. So
that's on you, though, because I'm

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here to be radios, safe space, podcasts, safe space, so I

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welcome you as a listener to this
program, and I want to tell you

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that we are going to continue a
discussion that we had previously today talking about

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the quote unquote w NBA pay gap. And by the way, if you've

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missed I'm going to have to set
this up to frame up this discussion some

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of the things that we talked about
previously, because I know people listen in

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a variety of different ways, and
you know, if you missed it,

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whatever, whatever the case may be, if you didn't miss anyone, to

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go back and listen to that particular
podcast, you can. You can do

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that. The title OZ will make
sure that that title has something about the

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WNBA pay gap in it, so
you just find that and you can listen.

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And that's the show that I'm referencing
here. This is kind of a

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continuation of sorts of that, and
so we'll get into that. But I'm

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gonna have to lay some groundwork for
the folks that don't that haven't listened to

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that episode, to that part of
the program to set it up here today.

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to go through this quickly, and
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the WNBA held their draft. Women's
National Basketball Association held their draft on Monday.

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Caitlin Clark, who is a phenomenal
talent who's changed women's basketball at the

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collegiate level, and I think and
hope that she will change it on the

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professional level as well. As she's
been drafted by the local team here where

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we are, by the Indiana Fever, and it was released that her contract

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was something like seventy six thousand dollars
a year. This, of course gets

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the predictable gasp response from the feminists, the leftists, the liberals, thinking

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that this is an example, a
clear example of the gender pay gap in

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professional basketball. Now, there is
a pay gap between the genders, but

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it's not a pay gap because of
her gender. It's a pay gap because

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of the success of the two businesses. The NBA, i mentioned in the

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previous episode, generates ten billion dollars
with the B in annual revenue. The

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WNBA generates sixty million dollars with an
M in annual revenue, and it's still

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losing between ten and twelve million dollars
a year. Now, that's not all

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bad. Well, losing money is
not good, but it's part of building

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a brand, building a business.
If the NBA had a massive head start

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on the WNBA, as far as
you know, it's had longer to longer

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of time to exist. But the
NBA has gone through its struggles as well.

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That's kind of where we left off
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But the WNBA is losing ten to
twelve million dollars a year. NBA

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subsidizes it to some extent. It's
not clear to me how much or what

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that looks like, specifically because they've
recently gotten investors seventy five million dollars from

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investors in the WNBA, So that's
good. They're heading in the right direction.

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And so I went through and explained
where the NBA was in the nineteen

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eighties, which was a bad financial
position. There weren't a lot of players

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that were connecting with the audience.
There were some, I mean, Doctor

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j of course was there. We
had Kareem Abdul Jabbar, but nothing like

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what they were about to embark upon
with Magic Johnson and Larry Bird and then

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later the Detroit Pistons, the bad
Is Michael Jordan. Those rivalries that these

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teams had, these players had with
one another, the fights, the Lakers,

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Celtics games, the dream team of
the nineteen nineties. I mean,

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it became a phenomenon that didn't just
stay within the United States borders, but

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expanded around the world, around the
globe especially in nineteen ninety two with the

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Dream Team that had some of the
best players that have ever played the game

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of basketball, players like Magic Johnson, players like Larry Bird, Charles Barkley,

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David Robinson, Karl Malone, Michael
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on that team. I think Mullen, Chris Mullen was on that team.

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You get the idea, some tremendous
basketball players. They built the brand.

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John Stockton was on that team.
They built the blank the brand. They

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grew the show or excuse me,
the league, and they experienced massive success

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from that point in time. And
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they did it. They did it
through competition, they did it through rivalry,

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they did it through an intensity.
These players were not taking off the

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idea, the idea that Larry Bird
or whoever Michael Jordan would have taken games

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off to rest in nineteen eighty nine
or whatever is. They would never have

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considered that. In fact, Larry
Bird's career was shortened due to a back

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injury, an injury that was either
first initiated or made worse because he was

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working on his family's driveway in French
Lick, Indiana, back in the I

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don't know when that was. I
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you know, porn concrete and all
that, and he hurt his back and

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it either aggravated it or it may
have been the initial cause of the injury.

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These guys don't do that today,
and I'm not saying they should.

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I'm not trying to do that.
I'm just saying it was a dramatically different

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world and the players. Back in
nineteen eighty the average salary was one hundred

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and eighty thousand dollars. As they
were heading into the nineties, that salary

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increased about five times to around nine
hundred thousand dollars. And then today,

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the average NBA salary today is added
around ten million dollars, with the league

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minimum being one million dollars. So
how did we in the past thirty or

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so years have the average NBA salary
increased ten times? Well, it's because

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of the success of the NBA.
Now, you may not like it.

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I'm not here to defend it.
I'm just here to say that they've had

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unprecedented success in growing the league,
especially when you factor when you factor in

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the worldwide phenomenon right China. Some
of these plays I mean, Kobe Bryant

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was adored in lots of places,
including China. Remember Yao Ming from China.

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He played in the NBA. He
had a very talented guy, big

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guy, seven foot six. He
had a shortened career because of injury.

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But this increased interest or in the
NBA around the world, and it's truly

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a global phenomenon and that can again
be traced back to the Dream Team,

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the Dream Team when they played in
the Olympics in nineteen ninety two. If

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you've never watched the documentary on the
Dream Team, I encourage you to do

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that. They were signing autographs.
They were signing autographs of other players,

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for other players that they were playing
against as they were, you know,

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before the game, after the game
sort of thing. People just wanted to

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be, you know, shake their
hands, have their pictures taken with these

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guys. They were getting their autographs. They were beaten people by thirty forty

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points. It was. It created
a tremendous amount of buzz for the talent

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level of the players that were in
the NBA back in those days. And

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now we've even expanded it further with
international players, players like Luka Donciz and

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Nikola Jokic and Giannis and Tenda Kupo, They're all over the NBA, these

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these European or these foreign born players
not from Europe but from Australia. The

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Pacers have a player from Cameroon,
Joel Embiid Cameroon. I mean worldwide phenomenon.

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And you got to think about this, how do we get not only

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fans in these places, but how
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we get to the point where players
are able to develop skills, because that

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means not only is there a fan
base, but there's the ability to teach

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the game of basketball, not just
in Europe, not just in Africa,

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not just in Australia, but around
the entire world. Now there's different,

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a different brand of basketball. The
European or the international style of basketball is

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phenomenal because it teaches teaches fundamentally sound
basketball. It teaches teaches things that translate

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onto the court into beautiful basketball ball
movement, great passing, spacing, great

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shooting, all this sort of stuff. Anyway, so that can all be

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traced back in this timeline of growth. The point is the WNBA has not

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had much of any of that.
Now, whatever degree that they've had in

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that has largely been attributed to their
association or connection with the NBA. So

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but they've not had a chance to
really go through what the NBA went through.

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The WNBA hasn't what the NBA went
through in the nineteen eighties and nineteen

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nineties. That's where they are today. And so Caitlin Clark, as phenomenal

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as she has been and as revolutionizing
as she can potentially be to the WNBA,

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it's not materialized yet. It's just
like when Larry Bird and Magic Johnson

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were drafted back in what was that
nineteen seventy nine, I guess right when

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they were drafted, that's where she
is today. And when they were drafted

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in nineteen eighty, the average salary
was one hundred and eighty thousand dollars.

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Some of these players were doing as
well, like pouring concrete driveways or whatever

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for their parents as Larry Bird was
doing. It was a different, different

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world. And that's what the NBA
is today. WNBA is today. Excuse

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me. Not only that the WNBA
has fewer teams, they have twelve teams

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versus the NBA's thirty teams, they
have fewer fans, they have fewer games,

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they have smaller TV contracts. Again, total revenue for the WNBA sixty

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million. Total revenue for the NBA
is ten billion, with the B so

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dramatically different world. Now, I
want to tell you some personal things about

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about me. I mean, I've
got I've got some well I've got i

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got a daughter who who plays basketball. I've got we've got three kids.

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I'm going to tell you a little
bit about the connection here. This is

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not a personal thing for me,
but I it is personally. It personally

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interests me. I hope the WNBA
makes it. I hope they put a

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better product out there than they have
in recent years. I hope that they

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quit trying to say for those that
say this, and it's not necessarily the

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players, but Britney Griner said that
she could beat DeMarcus Cousins in a one

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on one game of basketball, that's
absolutely asinine. I don't know that she

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would get a shot off, to
be quite honest, she would be obliterated.

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That does not mean that does not
mean that the WNBA cannot put a

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good quality product out there that people
want to watch. Quit trying to be

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the NBA specifically. The game is
different there's post players in the NBA.

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Excuse me, the WNBA really doesn't
happen in the NBA anymore because how the

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game has changed. There be who
you are. Just look at this as

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a great opportunity and capitalize on it. Deliver a good product, Let the

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players develop rivalries, let them compete, and let's see what happens here.

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Don't moan about the fact that you're
not the NBA yet. You're not and

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you probably never will be. But
that doesn't mean you still can't have great

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levels of success. So more to
say about this. But before I do

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that, my friends, let me
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like we have today with inflation and
uncertainties in the market, all those things

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can influence the price of gold,
and right now they've driven it up at

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or near all time highs, and
so it might be a really good time

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you are correct on that. Let's

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get back to the conversation here with
the about the WNBA I mentioned. I

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have a daughter. We have two
daughters. Well, we have three kids.

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Son, daughter, daughter, fourteen
year old son, twelve year old

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daughter, ten year old daughter.
Son is he plays, He plays Soccer's

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a powerhouse. He's kicks the ball
so hard. I mean, it's I

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don't want to be anywhere near it. It's like a missile. It's like

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a missile coming at you, a
missile that the Biden administration gave the green

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light from Iran to fire into Israel
allegedly. It's like that. He's into

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aviation. He wants to be a
pilot. He's on a simulator all the

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time. Smart kid, you know, and good at soccer, but didn't

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play basketball. I want to get
into this in a moment. My oldest

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daughter, our oldest daughter, she's
twelve. She plays soccer, athletic.

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She played basketball in the past.
My son did too, but neither one

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of them want to continue. She
plays soccer as well, but she also

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has crochet business. She has a
serious crochet business. I'm not even kidding

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about this. She kind of taught
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a year or so ago, something
like that. And I mean she's got

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too she's made by hand custom two
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what she told me. I just
asked her this morning, how many items

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do you have? Evy two hundred
and fifteen handmade items that she is,

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you know, looking forward to selling
it at Kraft around the area. She

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loves doing this, by the way, very very talented. I'm blown away

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by what she can do. If
you're interested, if it's your thing,

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if you're on Instagram, she's got
a page called yarn Buddies by Evie.

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Yarn Buddies by Evie. That's our
daughter. But she's not into basketball.

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She is. She's into that.
She's into starting that business and running it

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and making her her yarn buddies,
as she says. But our youngest daughter,

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she is a basketball player. She
she has played soccer too, But

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basketball, I think I think it's
her sport, and she loves it.

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She practices all the time, she
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she tries to learn the moves.
I mean, she's she's pretty good,

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and so I mean I care about
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I'm not saying I would never put
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wants to do it, if she
wants to play at Cotton College or whatever,

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then you know, I'll support her
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encourage her and help her to do
that however I can. If she doesn't,

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that's fine too. But I can
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the one who's going to, at
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involved in these things. And that's
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sports to succeed, and I would
want if she was ever good enough or

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whatever to be a professional player.
I would like her to be able to

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make as much money as she can. But we can't just wish something into

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existence. These things have to materialize
over time. It takes time to build

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this. It takes time to build
this, and you have to have the

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right players. You have to you
have to have the right ingredients, and

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I think the WNBA has that right
now. So I'm not against the success.

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But what I am against is about
pushing a narrative that has no basis

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in reality. Caitlin Clark is not
getting paid less because she's a woman.

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That is patently ridiculous and absurd.
It's demonstrated in so many ways I've gone

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through in the past what one and
a half episodes. Now, this is

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not a legitimate criticism. And then
of course people want to extrapolate that and

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then apply that to everything else.
And I know that it's well, I'm

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going to say something, I'll probably
tick somebody off, but hey, what

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else is new? I know for
some people it's you know, if we're

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having difficulty or struggling, it's just
easier to blame something, to blame the

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gender pay gap, or to blame
whatever it is instead of looking in the

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mirror and saying, Okay, what
are my skills? How am I using

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those? Am I am I working
my hardest? Have I sacrificed enough time?

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It takes time. It just takes
time. I've been doing this.

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I've been doing this for almost nine
years. It's amazing to me. I've

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had people say, man, that's
that's quick. You've you've you've had some

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quick success. No, it might
appear quick if you just heard about the

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program last week, and you know
your your historical frame of reference for our

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program is a week. You think, man, that's pretty good. But

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it's not been a week. It's
been nine years, and in fact,

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the dream can be traced back to
the late nineties. So for me,

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there's a lot of growth that happens
below the surface, even when no one

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even knows you're doing it. Our
daughter's out here shooting and practicing, not

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just I mean not just screwing around, like doing drills and stuff. Now,

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the point is that's that's just part
of the process. It's part of

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the process for an individual player,
but it's also the part of the process

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for the league, for the brand
it has to develop. It has to

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be given time, and if I'm
not succeeding, if I'm not personally succeeding

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here, if you're not succeeding in
what you're doing, we have to ask

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the questions, what am I doing
wrong? Have I have I Do I

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not have the talent? Do I
need to get better at something? Have

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I not given myself enough time?
These are all legitimate questions. Instead it

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as saying, well, people hate
me. Are the world's all a bunch

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of sexists, or the world's all
a bunch of haters of this group or

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that group or anything else. We
have to look in the mirror and say,

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Okay, here's where we are,
Here's where we want to get.

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How do I do that? Right? That's the that's the adult way of

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doing it. Anyway, still more
to say about this, But before I

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my friends. When we get back, I'm going to continue this discussion,

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maybe share a couple of little stories
here. But there's so many teachable

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moments about this WNBA contract of Caitlin
Clark gender pay gap. It's right there

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again. It's a catalyst, it's
an open door. It's an opportunity to

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have conversations with those that maybe normally
have no interest in these things, but

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it is an opportunity to share and
to use this as a bridge to hopefully

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getting people to hear and receive truth. But I've got to take a break

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my friend. Sit tight back in
just a minute, come back to my

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friends. There is no gender pay
gap in the w NBA. There is

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a pay gap between well, there's
no gender pay gap in the way that

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they mean that, which is,
hey, you're a woman. Let me

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go to the the salary list of
what we pay women and you open it

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up and then you pay them that. No, no, no, no,

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that's not it at all. The
gender pay gap that exists, and

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so far as it does exist,
is that the WNBA has not had the

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success of the NBA. Therefore they
have less money to pay and therefore people

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get paid less by the WNBA.
It's not complicated at all. It may

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be a hard pill to swallow for
some people. I don't understand that.

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I just I mean, I guess
I do in a way because it's it's

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as though there's they feel like they're
saying that the women are inferior to men.

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No, it's they've not had the
success with the WNBA that they've had

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in the NBA. The players aren't
as strong, they're not as talented,

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they're not as overall good. There
are things that I think the women may

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do better, but they're not better
than the men. In fact, I

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remember you remember Serena Williams. Tennis
players or were in a different sport now,

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but tennis. You know, tennis
you're separated by net, so there's

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no physical, you know contact,
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one another with the tennis racket over
the net. And she made the comment

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that she if she played Andy Murray, who at the time, I don't

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know. I don't know if he
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highly ranked. He might have been
number one for some time. She said,

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if I played Andy Murray, he
would beat me six six loves six

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loves six zero six zero. Women
play two sets in a match, or

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well, they pay played best of
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So she was just even saying,
you know, by the way women's rules,

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she would lose six zero, six
zero. And she said I would

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lose in just a couple of minutes. She said, I can't. And

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Serena was a strong, talented tennis
player, dominant in female tennis. She

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said, it's a different game.
They hit the ball harder, you know,

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they're they're longer. It's harder to
get my shot past them. All

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that kind of stuff. What's so
hard about admitting that I just those guys

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are better at tennis than me.
The NBA players are better at basketball.

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To me, I couldn't stop.
I couldn't stop the most. The person

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that sat on the bench the longest, the person a person who played in

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the NBA five years ago, if
he wanted to play me one on one,

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I don't think I could get a
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if I just threw it over my
head and he wasn't, I don't know.

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I don't know that I get a
shot off. That's not some sort

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of an insult to myself, perhaps
as an insult to my game, But

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I don't. I don't have a
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We did win, and that's a
story I was going to tell you

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really quickly. Here nineteen ninety six, our team we won the sectional championship

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at my school. This was back
Indiana was single class basketball, so no

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matter the size of your school you
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So the biggest schools played the smallest
schools. In fact, there's a school

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my class. We had ninety nine
kids in my class. There's a school

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that was just the next school district
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School. Look them up. I
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the class, but I know that
their senior pictures, their whole class senior

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pictures are on the wall in the
high school, and it looks about like

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the same number of kids I would
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I don't know, twenty five,
thirty five, maybe forty. I'm guessing

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kids in the class. And that
was Eminence. But they were expected to

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play the team that had, you
know, thousands of kids in a class

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at in high school. That's what
we did back then. Now we don't

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have that. We have class basketball, but we had single class one class

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back then. It was in fact, I think it was the last year

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for it. Nineteen ninety six,
our team had not won our sectional where

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we were a small school, we
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but we won it that year,
my senior year. I got to be

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honest, I didn't even know what
happened. I knew we played, I

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knew there was another round, but
I didn't know what happened. I didn't

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know where the game was we ended
up playing. We played that game at

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Indiana State University. The court that
Larry Bird Built in Terre Hate, Indiana,

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and it was packed. There was
so much talent on the basketball court

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that day, not for me,
but from the There were players that you

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know, played at multiple colleges,
the Graves, White River Valley, they

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were in that regional. We played
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North ended up going to the Elite
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it was a tremendous experience for us. Awesome, awesome ex experience.

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Tons of people at that game,
but I remember when we won the section.

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All the game before that. You
may have heard you've heard one of

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our partners on here, TJ.
Friegie. He played with me in high

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school. He's been a friend of
mine for a long time. Freji and

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Fregi auctions in marketing. Check him
out Fregie auctioneers dot com and you can

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see some of their upcoming auctions.
That's not the point of this. The

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point of this is to tell you
that in high school, Friji was We

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had a little bit different personalities.
I was a little bit more reserved.

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Frigie was a little bit of a
talker, maybe even a lot of a

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talker. Trash talker not afraid to
jack it up. He was our sixth

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man, and he he came in
locked and loaded, ready to fire that

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basketball up, run his mouth a
little bit, all in good fun,

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I mean, nothing bad. But
when we won the sectional, I remember

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this. We had our sectional trophy. See, we weren't supposed to win

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that game because we played another school. It was Moresville was the name of

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the school, which is in the
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district to our east, and we
weren't supposed to win. In fact,

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the radio broadcast the night before had
the two bigger schools in the quarter or

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the semi finals of the chance of
the sectional, and the people on the

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radio said that that was I think
the coach even said for Morsil that was

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the championship game. Turns out it
wasn't, and there was another game to

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be played, and we won,
and Freji wanted to take wanted to take

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the bus into Mooresville, which was
not far from where we were. Take

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the bus into Morswill after winning take
the sectional championship trophy to the Taco Bell

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in Mooresville. Coach agreed with this. I was not on board with this,

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but I was on the bus and
I was gonna eat some Taco Bell.

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It was probably eleven eleven thirty at
night, I don't know, heck,

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maybe midnight at that point, but
we stroll in there in the bus,

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get out at Taco Bell. I
believe Friji carries the trophy in anyway,

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Basketball is a sport. I love
it. It's got a lot of

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connections with with me. My daughter
plays, my wife played coach today,

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my dad coached me. I love
it right, and I want there to

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be success in women's basketball. But
I also know that that doesn't happen just

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by snapping your fingers and wishing.
And it also doesn't come from trying to

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pretend something is the truth when it
isn't. And so what's going to make

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women's basketball better is the competition,
the rivalries the players like the Caitlin Clarks,

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and maybe one day she can be
the catalyst like Magic and Bird were

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in the nineteen eighties to the NBA
and make it a massively successive league.

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But just like Magic and Bird did
not benefit from the contracts that these guys

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have today, Caitlin Clark isn't going
to benefit if they have the same level

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of success as the NBA did.
Proportionally, she's not going to benefit the

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same way that the future players are
going to benefit, which leads to the

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next question. The next thing that
I find interesting this discussion, this incessant

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discussion about who's the greatest player at
this on Michael Jordan, Kobe Bryant,

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Wilk Chamberlain, Oscar robertson whatever.
Your list of players at my starting five,

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here they are, and people list
them out, and it's fun to

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engage in those discussions. I get
all of that. But my friends,

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the truth is, the truth is
when you have a league that's successful,

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then the next generation are the beneficiaries
of that. So for example, I'm

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always amazed we had that eclipse go
over here last week. If you haven't

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seen that, I mean I talked
about that on the program. Absolutely once

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in a lifetime, beautiful, mesmerizing
event. Those few minutes of totality are

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words fail me as to just how
surreal and beautiful and just captivating that was.

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Well, I'm always amazed at you
know, today, we all benefit

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from the knowledge of what NASA or
scientists that we've built upon for generations.

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But I think how diligent were the
dudes that figured this out to begin with.

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How smart were the people who looked
up and said, no, no,

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no, that's not a star,
that's a planet, and that planet

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is following in orbit. It's orbiting. It's orbiting the Sun. We're not

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the son's not moving. We're moving
and the son's not even really we're on

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an elliptical orbit. So there's not
it's not just that we're orbiting the Sun.

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There's another. If you know anything
about math, you know that there's

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two points that things orbit around in
the in the shape of an ellipse.

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There's something else that's at the other
end of that of that orbit, which

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is a whole nother discussion for a
whole other day. But the people that

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figure that stuff out, we benefit
from that. So we start based upon

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their knowledge. So the players of
the nineties started with the knowledge of what

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they learned from watching magic. Johnson
and Larry Bird did do magic. Johnson

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and Larry Bird watched the players before
them, you know, Jerry West,

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Bill Russell, Wilt Chamberlain, whoever
these you know, Bob Coosey, I

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don't know, but they they watched
and they learned and they built upon that,

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and that's where we are today.
If Magic Johnson and Larry Bird and

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Michael Jordan were growing up in today's
world in basketball, their skill level,

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they would be taught the same things
that the current group of players are taught

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that this generation is being taught.
And they would have been, you know,

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given a strength and training regimen that
would have been they would have been

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faster and better jumping and all this
kind of stuff, better shooting, all

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these sorts of things. They would
have benefited tremendously. So we can't look

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at these things. It's hard to
comprehend the total improvement, the total impact

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that a certain player, our a
certain mind has on an industry, a

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development of a society, development of
a league. But you don't benefit.

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The people that benefit financially are the
ones that come down the road. I

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gotta take a break, quick time
out my friends back in just a minute.

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You know, my friends. I
remember when Rush Limbaugh used to say

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he would get messages from the stick
to the issue's crowd. They didn't like

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it when Rush would talk about golf
or something else, anything that wasn't pertaining

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to the issues of the day.
And I get it, I do get

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it. Some of you might be
thinking that we've spoken a little bit too

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much about basketball in the past couple
of episodes here where we've talked about this.

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But I think and I can respect
and understand you know where you're coming

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from. But I think that that's
I think that this is one of the

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biggest opportunities and teachable moments that exist
that can connect with the pop culture,

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that can connect with people who don't
normally have an interest in politics, and

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so I think it's a tremendous opportunity. That's why we've spoken about it so

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much. That's why I think there's
so many things that this example of something

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that's happening right before our eyes that
people are talking about, arguing about,

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debating. There's so many things that
we can use as potential just potential lessons,

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just overall teachable teachable moments. Because
it's an open invitation to talk about

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the gender pay gap or the perceived
gender pay gap. It's an opportunity to

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talk about how business works. It's
an opportunity to talk about entrepreneurism and how

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it's different to run a small business
than it is to run a big business.

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You know, entrepreneurs and CEOs were
not the same thing. I mean

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an entrepreneur, someone who starts something
to pursue a dream, a passion.

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Just maybe they started in their bedroom
closet in twenty fifteen, started a podcast,

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not knowing where it would end up, right, not knowing where it

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would end up, not knowing if
it would be picked up as a popular,

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you know, radio show, any
of that thing. Much like we

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did here, there's no guarantees.
We don't see the end of the story.

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In fact, when you're reading some
of these stories in the Bible,

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if you read the Bible, you
read some of these stories and you think,

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oh, well, why didn't he
just do this or why didn't she

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do that? Because they didn't know
the end of the story. My friends,

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entrepreneurs don't know the end of the
story. And I don't want to

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say the WNBA is entrepreneurial, but
it's it's kind of a pseudo thing,

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right. It's under the brand of
the NBA. The NBA, the Big

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Brother kind of carried it along,
protected it, financed it, all that

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sort of stuff. But it was
something new and there's something still entrepreneurial about

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it. And CEOs of you know, corporate America, they deal with different

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things than I have to deal with
too. I'm not minimizing their job by

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any stretch of the imagination. I
certainly I couldn't do it. I'm not

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wired for that. I'm not wired
to have to deal with HR and compliance

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and maybe a little bit too much
like Michael Scott in that way, or

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DEI or any of these things.
So the WNBA is not the NBA,

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but there's no guarantees. There were
no guarantees for either. There were no

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guarantees for the NBA in the nineteen
eighties when Magic Johnson and Larry Bird stepped

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onto the scene, and there were
no guarantees for the WNBA when they started,

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or even when today Caitlin Clark steps
on the scene. We're talking about

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people who have to take a risk
to grow it into something they don't know.

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You know, we have the hindsight. Now hindsight's twenty twenty. As

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they say, the NBA, we
can look back and say, oh,

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yeah, well, now I can
see why that helped or that didn't help.

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But at the time, you don't
know. You don't know how the

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story's written or how the end is
written of the story. You're living it

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every day. It's exciting, it's
what we do here, but it's also

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very uncertain and just like Burden,
Magic kind of took a risk. I

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mean, they were getting paid,
but they they took a risk to be

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involved with something and to build something
that is much different. They became something

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much bigger and greater than it was
when they when they started. And today

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I don't want to make too big
of a fuss about this, but you

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know these NBA players today, it's
a different world. They didn't have to

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build it. In fact, today
I would say that at least some of

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these NBA players, if not more, have become prima donnas because they didn't

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know what it took to build it. Reminds me of Obama telling Joe the

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Plumber back in two thousand an eight. Remember Joe the Plumber, He told

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him, you didn't build that.
When talking to Joe the Plumber about Joe

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the Plumber's plumbing business, he said, no, you didn't build it.

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What happened was we built the roads
that came in there. That's why you

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have a business. But people like
Obama, people like those that live in

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corporate America that talk about golden parachutes, not to be confused with golden showers,

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but golden parachutes, These retirement packages, stock packages of multiple millions of

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dollars, have no idea the risk, the uncertainty, the turmoil, the

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heartache that comes from being an entrepreneur. And entrepreneurs put it on the line

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each and every day, each and
every day. And that's really what Caitlin

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Clark is stepping into it. It's
got a foundation. I don't want to

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overstate it, but there's something there
that she's stepping into that just requires her

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to have to put it on the
line. It's going to depend upon her

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and these other players and their involvement
and their ability to grow this. And

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I like the fiery nature of Caitlin
Clark, and I think she's got the

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capacity to do this. I hope
she succeeds. I'm not in you a

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fan of the NBA or wall Excuse
me, I'm not a fan of the

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WNBA in particular, but I've never
been closer to being a fan of the

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WNBA, and Caitlin Clark is a
huge reason for that. She's gonna be

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coming here to the Fever. I
hope she succeeds. She's got this fiery

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nature, she's got this ability to
have rivalries, and she makes it interesting,

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and she's competitive so much. Show
that, so much, showed that

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her dad mouth the words shut up
to her from the stands at the w

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NBA game or excuse me the NCAA
game. And there's a part of me

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that loves that part of me that
translates to Trump as well. But I

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don't have time to get into that. But anyway, my friends, I

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gotta go SDG.

