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Hello, ladies and gentlemen, Welcome
back to the X Men Retrospective. I

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am the Angel Trash. Now,
oh, I have not prepared for a

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name. I did not prepare that
second. But what's the new character in

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this movie? Angel Boom? I
am the there's an easy one. Who's

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gonna get it? I'm not gonna
take it because I don't know which one

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you're talking about. I'll tell you. I am the Phoenix. Okay,

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I got it, all right,
Kyle, you're up. I'm the multiple

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death scene. Kyle Smith. I
was gonna go with some Ellen Page in

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there because it's the first Yeah,
I'm Travis Sneill bitch. Yeah, we're

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always after or if it's just steal
your girl? Kyle Smid, who's that

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for? That was Frost? Well
that's debatable. That's no, no,

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no, no, no, no, that's debatable. Actually that's an Ellen

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Page. She was doing that.
Yes, we'll get into that, so

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Las Gelm. But you haven't guess
by your nicknames or the title or whatever

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all these obvious facts are. This
is the third episode the X Men Retrospective

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in honor of Dark Phoenix, which
would be Fox's last X Men movie and

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the time this recording. They apparently
those rumors that they're pushing New Muons back

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again, so we're probably never gonna
get that movie ever, We're never gonna

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see it. So Dark Phoenix maybe
the last one ever of the Fox ones.

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So we were reviewing X Men one, which we already did. We

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did X one, X two all
the way to the Day's the Future Pass.

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The other ones we have reviewed already, so I think when we finish

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these, we'll do probably ranking episode. Maybe we'll talk about them then if

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we rank certain movies, but those
ones have already been reviewed. So we're

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going X Men A Day's Future Pass. We have made it all the way

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to X three. I'm gonna give
this synopsis and then we're getting to get

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into what everyone thought of this one. Was the actual title of X three,

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xx Men The Last Stand? Oh, the Last Stand? Yeah?

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Yeah, I don't know because some
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IMDb says x Men three Last Stand. I'm just gonna go with X

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Men three because it's clearly not the
Last Stand. As there's the Wolverine,

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there's Days of Future Pass. There's
many movies that follow after the Last Stand.

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Uh, the Human government develops a
cure for mutations, and Jean Gray

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becomes a darker, uncontrollable person called
the Phoenix, who allies with Magneto,

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causing an escalation into an all out
battle for the X Men. So I

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feel like, and I'm gonna go
first. I feel like, just even

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with that synopsis, you can tell
that's a messy synopsis already. That introduces

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three separate things. You got the
Cure, Magneto, and Phoenix, and

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that's what this movie is. It's
just a big mess. It's not an

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uncommon thing that this is known as
a not a good X ME movie.

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I think both the one and two
we talked about them are good to great.

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They're on an upward trajectory if I
get better, get better, and

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then it takes a big dive.
And yeah, there is maybe a film

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later on that we're gonna talk about
that takes a lower dive. But at

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this point, if you're just thinking
of just these three, you think X

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one and X two, this just
it's a huge just what do they call

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that? When the airplane isn't crashing
and it's a no side. That's what

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this did. And it just was
there's so much going on. There's characters

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getting killed, left, right,
and center. There's no development. It's

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just too much. It's too much
crammed into one movie. I think the

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only and the thing is there's not
even that many great performances because like Exavier's

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gone really quickly. Make the Needle
is around, but we'll get to that.

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I feel like Magnedle is not the
make Needle from the first other two

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movies. He completely is against like
his character, what they set up.

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And I think the only things that
I like about this is Hugh Jackman Wolverine.

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I think he's still doing great.
And I love Kelsey Grammer's Beast.

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I love him. I love the
dynamic they have. That's the only thing

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in this movie I love. And
a few like scenes here and there that

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we'll get into. But really it's
just a MESSI movie. It's not like

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one of the worst movies of all
time, but it's just it's so disappointing

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when you think about the first TEE
just watched, which even X one is

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not fantastic. But when you think
X one at least just feels like it's

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conscious and knows what's going for this, it's just like, let's do this

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let's do this, Like this movie
could have been two movies, maybe three,

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but I could have at least been
two different movies. So uh yeah,

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I'm a I'm not a fan of
this movie, but we're gonna get

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into all those reasons why going into
this I feel like the second one and

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then going into this one we get
to see more mutants. But with this

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one, they threw in so many
mutants and they just felt so generic,

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Like there's a handful that just felt
like they have the same powers. Yeah,

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guys with hoodies that leave and they
all like eight of them just like

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leap at the same time. Yeah, they're just like, we have jumping

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powers and that's exactly, and they
never we never know what they do,

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like no, exactly. It's the
lamest version of a war. Yeah,

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you tried to just throw in so
many characters, but they just like stretch

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them out so thin and they're so
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So yeah, I kind of thought
it was not that bad. Oh there,

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you can play Devil's advocate. I'm
sure, I'm sure Taylor's listening and

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he's like, yes, yeah,
well I but like, now kind of

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what you guys are saying, is
like slowly changed. I'm like rethinking it's

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like, oh yeah, those are
really good points. No, I thought,

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like I didn't mind watching the movie. I thought was pretty good,

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just kind of going through the motions
of what was happening. Yeah, I

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guess like there's a lot going on
now, but you dug it, pun

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of me, but you dug it
for the most Yeah, I didn't think

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it was that bad. I enjoyed
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than the other movie that, yeah, we'll talk about later. I was

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gonna say as well, was mentioned
this the Travis before the cast. It's

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like when you watch the movie that
we'll be talking about later, like you'll

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never guests in the contrast to X
three, it's just like, man,

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X three wasn't that bad. It
was actually like, you know, it

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made a little bit more sense than
what's going on in here, so yeah,

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that might actually well I'm screwed up
right now. Yeah, But otherwise,

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overall, like I didn't think X
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there's some like you know, details
that we've kind of already mentioned before,

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but overall, like it was an
okay movie, Like I wouldn't like fail

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it or anything like that, and
so it was an an easy ish wash

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and yeah, there's a lot of
dying of the crazy, so the last

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and yeah, yeah, and now
kind of like even looking at it as

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a bigger franchise, like it's it's
interesting how they went through this storyline for

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this third movie after like all the
movies that they've made after it, like

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you think this would be like the
final one, unless in their mind they

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thought, all this might be the
last X Men movie we make. Well,

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and it is funny to talk about
because obviously we're doing this retrospective and

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honor of Dark Phoenix. And the
thing is, lots of people have said

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these trailers look a lot like this
movie, and they really do. And

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like Teams Divided, there's lots of
stuff going on, Jean's popping off,

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and it's that same thing where it
feels too soon, like this had three,

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like two movies a build up this
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one we met Jean Gray and Apocalypse
and now we're already boom Dark Phoenix,

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you know, and it's gonna be
interesting now that we've watched this so freshly,

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and then hopefully Dark Phoenix I hope
is not the same thing, but

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it just looks a lot of the
same as this movie, which is I

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don't know. I feel like the
first time I saw trailer for Dark Phoenix

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was like seven years ago, so
I don't even remember what's what to expect

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perfect. Should we dive into this? Yeah? Sure, Okay, So

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we start with the two openings.
We got Angels opening and he's cutting himself

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up and blah blah. I wanted
to mention one thing on that because it

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goes the Angel opening and then it
goes like the credit intro that felt so

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like Spider Man like, or like
Toby maguire Spider Man scene. I was

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like, man, I like,
this is so familiar. And then and

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I guess I had them wrong.
The Angel opening a second and the first

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opening is a very d H.
Patrick Steward Eve McKellen time when the aging

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technology was not perfected and they do
not look it's such a big erk right

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off the back before you go,
and they're trying to talk to Jean's parents

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about what's wrong there, so now
you do nothing wrong with her. It's

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such a big irk because whatever age
she was, she's supposed to be like

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super young like just finding out probably
right, Yeah, so she just finds

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other she has powers or whatever.
I feel like she's stronger than current age

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like Jean Gray. She lifts up
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in the neighborhood Do you mean them? Do you mean stronger than Jean Gray

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or stronger than Phoenix? Well I
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because he reduces her powers, right, so I feel like, okay,

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yeah, I feel like I remember
he does is like uh not like,

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what's it called telepathic? No,
I don't know what it's he has.

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There's like a thing over and he
has his hands over like hypnotizing her.

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He's given her like a telepathic a
telepathic uh like, uh, what is

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that when they cut your brain open? The botany? That's what they're doing

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that he's doing to her, you
know? So that does he do that?

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Like when she's young? I think
what they think? I think,

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yeah, I think what they do
is they bring her to the school,

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they try to contain it. It
doesn't go well. So they're like,

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well, we got an idea that
it's just like close out. I clearly

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A'm just a viewer that missed that. I was so triggered though, because

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I saw this and I'm like,
I just watched two movies. Yeah,

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and she was weak as fuck.
I can't used to Rebro Yeah exactly,

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And like meanwhile, just young Gene
is just lifting up cars, like flexing

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on these two guys. Yeah.
I like the scene. I like I

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like seeing them together, like Xavier
and Magneto. I think they got a

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good chemistry. And already you can
see this relation is not going to work

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out between the two because they approach
the parents very differently. But I think

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it's a good setup. It gets
us going. Like I said, it

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is very They just look very plastic. It's so much different from when we

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got Rogue one, or you look
at ant Man in the Walls, where

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you got like Michael Douglas and Michelle
Pfeiffer looking like they exact are like Guardians

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Sue and Kurt Russell looking exactly like
you did. This does look like a

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younger version of them, but just
as kind of scary at times. There's

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another move we're gonna talk about two, where this is the time where they

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just had that plastic element when they
made them look young, you know,

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so, and they're just giving around. It's time. It is but and

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then Angel scene. I like Angel
scene. It's cool, it's dark.

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I think it's a very cringey.
I remember being young and being like,

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oh no, because like when they
show the the scar in the mirror,

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like yeah, and I think it's
good movation. It's a good setup to

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like this kid would be scared,
you know, Oh totally. His dad's

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so like anti mutants, right,
Yeah. I wish they kind of went

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more into depth with this Angel character. I think we could talk about him

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right now because he does four things
in this movie. There's that scene,

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and then the next time we don't
see him still like the middle of the

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mover and like Warren coming here,
We're gonna give you the cure. Yeah,

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and then he for some reason decides
he has to jump out the window.

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There was no security guard. There
was this two guys kind of holding

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them back. But really, like
I think he could just use the stairs,

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like you know, like he's next
time we next time we see him,

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he's just like I thought this was
a school for the gifted. And

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then the next time we see him, he's just randomly in the battle.

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He saves his dad and that's it. He doesn't help the X Men out

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at all. It's so funny that
such a waste of the character, especially

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since they like show him off in
the beginning. You're like, oh,

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man, I haven't seen this guy
before. He's gonna be so important,

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gonna be integral to the plot.
Yeah, psych, Well, you look

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at all the other openings, like
what X one we got Rogue and Magneto,

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two very important characters. X two. What was the opening there?

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Oh god, what was that?
We just watched it because it's the opening

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is not Logan at weapon X.
But it's something else, isn't it.

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That's Wolverine, That's what I mean. It's him where it's like the wolf

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turns in it. But I thought
there was something beforehand. Oh my god,

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because we get that exaver like mutants
there, this and that and blah

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blah blah. I swear there's an
old Oh no, it's Gene. She's

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talking to all the mutants again,
like as like a like a meeting at

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the beginning of the movie, like
like a conference or something. No,

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that's X one. Still is that
X one? Steall, I'm trying to

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think X two. Well, maybe
it'll come to me. But I felt

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like that had an opening of a
character that I remember what you're talking about,

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Like the Logan when he's off on
his like spirit wall. That's not

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how the movie, not how it
starts. Yeah, oh my god,

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that's frustrating. But either way,
I'm sure there's something there. Maybe I'm

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wrong, but yeah, you'd think
they start good lie Wow, we forget

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that, but exactly right, a
guy that's integral a plot. And then

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also you get the gene once that
works, but with Warren it's just it's

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very strange. That's where it feels
like that's a whole different movie. Like

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they're like, oh, we're gonna
use him a lot and just no,

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just strange, just strange. Uh. And then after that we get the

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danger room sequence where they're training.
Obviously they don't reveal right away that's a

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danger room and everything like that.
I like the scene a lot. I

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think there's good back and forth,
but just Logan and everybody, there's tons

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of stuff going on. We get
the Seeds of Rogues, clearly jealous of

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Kitty and Bobby because he just saves
her and she saves him. That's about

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it. But she obviously because touch
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good way, and she just feels
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Yeah, so but I like the
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like Logan and storms dynamic him like
lighting the cigar and I like so.

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I like that scene. I like
that they brought back Colossus from was it

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He wasn't an X one, was
he he was an X two? Remember

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he saves he helps him save the
kids. Yeah, he's not in it

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too much, but I liked him
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this he's he's kind of more about
like part of the team now. I

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like seeing that a lot of those
like characters are more part of the team

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and kind of working together. Yeah, but we still see them the same

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amount as we did next to but
not on Page. That's the game changing

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ELM Page is in there Page.
I feel like he's actually in there more

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than most of the people, like
I spent. I guess this kind of

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tie. But like Rogue goes missing, we'll talk about she's just gone for

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all this movie. She's doing her
doctor's appointment. Man, she really did.

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I forgot to shout out in the
opening or opening scene with Magneto and

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Xavier that he had a purple suit
on Magneedo. So you know kind of

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you know, staying in touch with
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a good so uh. And then
after that we get storms like oh,

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giving Wolverine a bunch of shit,
you're not doing a good job, and

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like, hey, I'm su Yeah, I'm just a sub taking up with

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Scott. So then we bump into
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so bogging out, freaking out.
It's been months, he's still but clearly

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it's been months. We talked about
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like I said months for X two
and you're like, no, it's been

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only like a couple of weeks.
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it was like I thought you said
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was like longer. I thought it
was like six months. With this,

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I feel I feel the same thing. This is like six months. I

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feel like because everyone's hair is kind
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Exavier's hair is different. Kids are
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right, so they've been training l
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year. I don't know, we'll
never know that. It's definitely been months.

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I don't think it's been weeks.
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than weeks. And then Scott's freaking
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and Scott bump into everybody logan,
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Yeah. I don't know if you
guys have anything to add on Scar And

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honestly, we're gonna talk about him, but I feel like we could just

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talk same thing as the Angel.
Just talk about him right now. And

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by the ways, like in this
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in X two, wasn't he Scott
Nah? I think he just had more

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of like a soulosh role. Yeah, because I guess the next two you

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could kind of count in the end
he is just like standing around with a

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lot of people right where in this
he literally has these two scenes of he's

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freaking out, Yeah, bumps and
logan and then he goes to alcohol Lake

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and that's it for him. I
think he had more to do in X

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one than on to next. I
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He's still poffing up. But uh
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it's like it in the context of
these movies that we've been watching. I'm

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not surprised he gets killed off like
this anything about from a calling standpoint,

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Yeah, he's the leader of the
X Men and he dies like the first

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twenty minutes of movies. But in
this movies it makes sense because they don't

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care about this character. It's the
whole Raine show. Like all the emotions

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Scott would be, you'd think like
that could like as a person that had

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talked and ranted about that scene next
to where they're together crying, you would

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think that you would keep him alive
to have that that tension. You know,

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like maybe they have separate ways of
how they want to deal the issue,

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but now they just kill off and
yeah, that's it. The other

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thing is he did go off to
because the guy who directed X one and

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two he went off to direct Superman
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So there are some scheduling things,
but the planet sounded like was always

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still the kill him off pretty early. So you guys got anything to add

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on a Scott over here. It's
just kind of up setting because like he

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just he's just done and then that's
it. Yeah, we kind of very

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lack is very lackluster, and also
the whole group doesn't like care about him,

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like later on when they talk about
like when we talk about the other

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death scenes, they're just like,
oh, yeah, like you know,

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Xavier died, and then it was
like yeah, but like Scott also died,

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but like you don't even bring that
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it about that Gota gravestone though at
the end of I was gonna mention that

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when they're all like having the funeral
for the professor, everyone's just like,

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Sobby and Scott didn't get that.
Scott didn't get at all because they all

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hated him. They're trying to get
him out of the six months of him

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babbling to himself gen like they were
done with it, like get out of

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here. Uh you got anything add
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it's pretty forgettable, Like obviously it's
it's unfortunate because the character and like the

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role that he plays in that like
X Men universe is pretty like he's kind

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of one of those figureheads Like obviously
he's supposed to be like the leader of

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the X Men. Yeah, but
uh, they totally wrote him off.

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All you fans out there, Foggy
is gonna do him justice. I try,

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I trust trust you trust him.
Foggy. He's not gonna let MCU

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do him dirty like this, He's
gonna be the full on like leader of

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the X Men. Actually, So
after that we get introduced to Beast.

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What do you guys are your John
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I thought it was really good,
kind of like already right off the

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hop, like he really worked that
role and I felt like, you know,

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it wasn't he wasn't acting like I
feel like he was actually doing the

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like being Beasts. So yeah,
and just like the way he just comes

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across, and I think maybe I
just like the character in general a lot

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too. So yeah, there's something
not much to not like about him.

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him. I actually prefer him over the

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Nicholas Hole. Yeahhold, I don't
know. He just has that persona of

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like the Beasts and just has the
look and like if you ever watched the

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nineteen nineties animated cartoon, it's like
spot on to what Beasts and to me,

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whenever I think of Beast, this
is what I think of all the

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time, Like he has such a
good cadence with the character and all his

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dialogue and the insults him and Wolverine
throw to each other. So good,

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it's so good, and it's like
it's such a shame that like this is

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the only movie we have that and
like you'd think they do that again,

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and this is the only movie they
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No, I liked it. I
liked all the chemistry you had with

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basically everyone, like whether it be
a human like the mutant Storm, like

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he's good friends with comment on his
change your hair? Yeah, so did

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I yeah? Or so did you
know it was good? H No,

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I just I really liked a and
there was like spot on casting for that

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role. What do you guys think
about storms hair in this movie? She's

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been through a lot of changes and
I didn't realize how much of like how

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much her hair changed throughout the movies. This one is like way short.

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I was the first one. The
first one was long, and then the

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second one was like the to the
ears. Then this one was like the

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storm going on. Oh that's what
she said to the barber and they're like,

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I don't understand your reference and she's
just got my hair. Yeah.

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I didn't mind it. I felt
like a quick question when when when what

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year did this movie come? Out
two thousand and six, and we're gonna

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say before I look, yeah,
two thousand and six. I was trying

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to picture what people's hair were,
like, oh six, pretty similar,

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teacher, that's like that like mid, so I said she shouldn't say mid

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two thousands, but like that,
it is mid to mid early two thousand,

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mids mid. I'm gonna plead the
fifth because I feel like I don't

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remember what the hairstyles were in two. I've seen a lot of rap videos

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for okay mid odds that had the
halle Berry Storm Okay, so it's like

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the style. Do you think Storm
copy that or do you think they're like,

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give me the halle Berry Storm x
three look because this was one of

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the biggest movies at the time.
It made tons of months. Yeah,

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but then her hairstyle like ended up
being like this as well too for a

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long time. So I think this
is like that, this is halle Berry's

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Storm. Yeah no, no,
no, no, enough for Storm,

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but like her Halle Barry for her
actual like yeah, her was like disagree.

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I think it was shorter, fam. I feel like it was shorter

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earlier, earlier, like in the
nineties. Yeah, let us know what

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you think about Berry's hair. It's
fine. At this point, we get

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a scene between Xavier and Storms just
saying, hey, Scott's gone, yeah

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about him? Well know this is
before he's dead. This is he kind

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of insinuates that he wants her to
take over because Scott's all like destroyed.

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He left. Yeah, held this
emotional logan miss there banter but yeah,

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my the only about because I have
a note that you know, Storm's in

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a bad mood. Whatever. So
Xavier comes on the balcony and she just

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has the weather dark, and he's
like, oh, what's going on.

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She's like sorry, she's like the
forecast said sunny clear sky. Just like

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to me, it's like, what
a bit. She's in a bad mood

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and she's making the weather bad for
everyone else, like go away, Like

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she can't control that. Maybe she
can't, but it seems like she could.

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Very upset and you can control the
weather. You're not gonna be like,

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oh, I'm gonna make it nice
and sunny for everybody else when I'm

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I feel like she couldn't control it. That's that's just a guess. But

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okay, I'll gree with you.
I eski as both she could I stand

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the little stag. Clearly, I
think we were all agreeing she would be

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the de facto leader if Cyclops is
f and off under I still think she

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should probably be the leader over us, over well Cyclops. Like yeah,

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in the movies, keyword there,
Like first, what twenty minutes of X

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two he got kidnapped? Like man, if she would if he would have

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brought Storm to see make needle,
they probably wouldn't find. She's just in

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a lightning bolt down. But Scott's
gonna ass Scott's having a tough time security

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guards in these movies. Yeah,
I think, well, Storm in general,

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she's a lot more I guess in
these movies is very like straightforward thinking

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and like which doesn't really like get
her emotions get to her too much.

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I also think that's just lazy writing
because I think they didn't want to do

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the struggle of writing her to give
her emotions. So there's like, oh,

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she's a straightforward character. Oh is
that what you think? I think?

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So, like, what how does
she develop in this movie? She

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doesn't change it all right, Like
no one changes the leader is that's like

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her situation. But her as a
person, the only person that I guess

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would change is rogue and maybe I
guess wol Rain would, but like it's

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very quick, just like yeah,
you know, but I don't she who

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was she? I think the only
thing that's changed from her at the star

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of this franchise to this one is
like she lost her accent. Other than

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that, like she's a no development. I know nothing about and hair,

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but like I know nothing about her
still, you know, like that's a

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fair point. I didn't really like
pick up on it. Yeah, but

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I know nothing about Scott, and
then like I know nothing about most of

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the people, and I get kind
of go back. I kind of wish

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that. I guess this movie is
about like Gene and like Rise of the

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Phoenix, but Logan. It's always
about Logan. But I kind of wish

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we got this like little intro about
her earlier, like one or Gene.

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I think they didn't want to do
that though, because that would spoil them

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potentially killing it off and bringing Phoenix
so right, So they the one to

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hold that back if they were planning
it, because if they show you a

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flashback of her being real powerful,
you'd be like, oh, it clearly

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is gonna happen, where as non
combook people, you don't have that idea.

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Oh she's this evil for ye,
but then they give you to you

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at the beginning of the movie.
Yeah, because this movie is about her,

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right, So I guess there's the
only time they could do it.

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There's no foreshadowing anymore. She's on
the poster. She's definitely coming back,

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right, so make that work up. And I guess now I feel bad

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for Storm because she could have had
a lot more to do. Oh yeah,

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they could have really developed that all
of them instead of the whole angel

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scene. They could have had this. Oh yeah, they did not any

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angel in this movie at all.
No, No, they didn't need like

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really like we'll get into it because
we're gonna get more than the Cure,

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but they don't really need the Like
they should have decided either the Cure or

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Dark Phoenix. You don't do both. Yeah, no, okay, but

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that's a good point. I was
gonna say, you can't really have like

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the Cure without like the angel like
conflict between him like trying to hide it

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from his dad and he could though, because how does he affect the actual

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X Men? Though? Right,
he doesn't. Uh. He goes to

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00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:22,799
the mansion and asks, I know
this is a bad time. Yeah,

406
00:23:23,279 --> 00:23:26,960
just died. Well. To be
fair, before that, they were like,

407
00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:29,000
Okay, well the school's gonna have
to be shut down. He shows

408
00:23:29,079 --> 00:23:30,359
up and then Storm's like, no, it's still a school. Maybe.

409
00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:33,599
She's like no, I think I'm
out. And then this guy comes in.

410
00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:34,440
It's like, oh, yeah,
no, I got I gotta be

411
00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:38,640
there for him. Uh. And
then at this point we get introduced to

412
00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:41,759
what is going on with the Brotherhood
of Mute and so there's a big meeting

413
00:23:41,759 --> 00:23:45,880
going on a church they're talking about
because they just the b scene was just

414
00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:48,799
them saying we found a mute that
could create a cure, and there's talking

415
00:23:48,799 --> 00:23:52,039
about the dangers of that. This
is we see Mystique, we see Pyro,

416
00:23:52,079 --> 00:23:56,480
who is awful hair in this movie, Magneto's there doesn't so bad.

417
00:23:56,640 --> 00:24:03,279
Product of the intimidation had mid mid
odds, Hey, Bobby had that like

418
00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:06,480
the previous movies didn't it. He
did, but was stolen. But Bobby's

419
00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:07,400
not supposed to be evil, you
know, and like if that guy is

420
00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:11,319
supposed no, but I mean,
like, I feel like you're supposed to

421
00:24:11,319 --> 00:24:15,119
be the evil side intimidating. The
second I saw Power, I'm like that's

422
00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:18,359
not intimidating. I could kick his
ass. I don't have powers like he

423
00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:22,079
had, like like even that whole
little squad that they have there for like

424
00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:26,200
this brotherhood suicides. Like you think
he would have like some sort of better

425
00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:30,279
costumes than just like wearing regular clothes
like driving driving gloves, yeah, sweater

426
00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:34,359
Yeah. And then I thought he
can't create fire, he can only manipulate

427
00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:37,799
it. He can't. But like
Magneedle gave him like almost like an instant

428
00:24:37,839 --> 00:24:41,720
lighter on his wrist. He just
flicks it like that kid from US.

429
00:24:41,319 --> 00:24:45,759
He has no spoiler, no,
no, no, but there it's a

430
00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:49,759
This kid literally just has like a
like a flicker like toy that can create

431
00:24:49,799 --> 00:24:52,160
a little spark. That's it.
It's no spoil at all. But yeah,

432
00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:56,519
so he has a device now where
he can just like insta fire.

433
00:24:56,799 --> 00:25:00,319
So it's still yeah, so they're
just they're just going on a but oh

434
00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:04,400
yeah, it's probably trademark somewhere the
Shamwal guy has it. They're going off

435
00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:07,960
about like, oh, the cure
is gonna blah blah blah, it's gonna

436
00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:11,279
affect us, And the main guy's
like they're not going to force the cure.

437
00:25:11,319 --> 00:25:15,480
And the Magneto just at the background
they yeah, they never quote from

438
00:25:15,519 --> 00:25:21,359
me, You've actually I had the
quote and you maybe just forget it,

439
00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:26,000
I think he said. I think
he said something like they never uh uh

440
00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:29,799
force force something, they just do
it. And then he stands up.

441
00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:33,160
One thing I hate about the scene
is everyone kind of like looks like Adam,

442
00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:36,160
like what's going on. I feel
like everyone know who the fuck Magneto

443
00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:38,119
is, and I feel like everyone
treats him like this is the first time

444
00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:41,119
we're mating Magneto, didn't you?
Did No one get that vibe from all

445
00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:45,720
the other mutons, well, Pyro, I don't even remember what his real

446
00:25:45,799 --> 00:25:47,799
name is, I guess, but
they're not really looking at him as a

447
00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:49,440
leader. They're just looking at some
old dude. There's some guy who just

448
00:25:49,519 --> 00:25:52,319
keeps you. But to me,
he is in these movies. He was

449
00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:56,559
like the first mutant to like strike
back at the humans. Right. To

450
00:25:56,599 --> 00:25:59,880
me, this would be like the
like, oh, we should listen to

451
00:25:59,880 --> 00:26:03,440
the sky. Even not everyone watches
the news though apparently yeah that or yeah

452
00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:06,920
that's true too. That's a good
But then like once Power was like,

453
00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:08,160
don't you know who this is?
Everyone's like whoa, Okay, I kind

454
00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:11,240
of know who this guy is.
Some people there's the one girl who does

455
00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:15,319
the shockwave. She just always looks
confused. Always there's nothing going on with

456
00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:21,279
that character. All there's nothing between
the ears and the lights are on,

457
00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:25,960
but no one's home. Uh yeah, and then what do you think about

458
00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:27,720
the scene? Honestly, we got
uh. I cannot remember all some of

459
00:26:27,759 --> 00:26:32,480
these people introduced because I'm a huge
X Men fan, But I mean there's

460
00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:36,279
thousands of munes that I forget.
There was one muton that was like crawling

461
00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:37,160
on the wall, look like you
kind of had like a long time.

462
00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:40,599
I'm like, man, Toad's back, what's going on? Some people do

463
00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:44,240
think that's Toad after like a lightning
strike. You think you'd be like Magneto,

464
00:26:44,319 --> 00:26:48,680
what's up? But I'm still good
man, put me in coach now

465
00:26:48,759 --> 00:26:51,880
you failed us last time? Man? Yeah, I don't know. I

466
00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:55,599
just find the whole scene to kind
of like them grouping up, Like I

467
00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:57,759
don't I can get why, Like
Magneto is like, people are like who

468
00:26:57,839 --> 00:27:00,559
is this? Like who's this guy
who thinks he could be our leader type

469
00:27:00,599 --> 00:27:03,759
thing? And this guy's but don't
you know who this guy is? Yeah,

470
00:27:04,039 --> 00:27:07,079
I guess you kind of do.
But like it's like, oh,

471
00:27:07,079 --> 00:27:08,559
I kind of know you about why
should I follow you? You don't give

472
00:27:08,559 --> 00:27:12,519
me any reason. Well, they
do. Remember he's a class for mutant,

473
00:27:12,559 --> 00:27:18,480
remember they that's introduced, but no
one knows. Yeah, the whole

474
00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:22,480
classing system. I had a big
Well let's get into because it's introduced.

475
00:27:22,559 --> 00:27:25,400
We've never had this in any movies. And that's what I'm trying to pull

476
00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:27,920
up the mutans in this one so
I can actually refer them. Well,

477
00:27:29,039 --> 00:27:34,480
there's the the two white guy who's
that stand up that he had with Pyrol

478
00:27:34,559 --> 00:27:37,640
though, and then he's like,
he's like, don't you know you're talking

479
00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:41,799
to you, like pulls up his
insta flame and then he's like don't you

480
00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:44,319
and he just pulls out like his
puffers. Fin It's like, no,

481
00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:48,240
I don't where were you in X
two? I feel like even though with

482
00:27:48,319 --> 00:27:52,480
his frostic tips, Pyro could kick
the ship out of this guy. Yeah,

483
00:27:52,519 --> 00:27:53,799
he's the same night, But that's
what I mean, Like he's guys

484
00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:57,000
Like maybe that's what they're trying to
show, is that who are these people

485
00:27:57,000 --> 00:28:00,240
who just come in here like thinking
they could just run the show and so

486
00:28:00,279 --> 00:28:06,039
they're like, well, like,
obviously Pyro's some like punk kid who's trying

487
00:28:06,039 --> 00:28:07,279
to like show up, and it's
like, who are you? Like,

488
00:28:07,799 --> 00:28:15,240
step off? Just step off?
So yeah, so I'm trying to try

489
00:28:15,279 --> 00:28:18,960
to figure out who has it,
but she injures the classing system and that's

490
00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:21,319
how they kind of go like,
oh so you she goes, oh,

491
00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:23,599
I know, no one in this
room is a higher than a class three

492
00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:29,519
than you two. So they don't
specific uh specifically say what I class Magneto

493
00:28:29,559 --> 00:28:33,079
and John are. I would hope
that Magneto is a higher class empire even

494
00:28:33,079 --> 00:28:37,039
though, but like the way they
the way they phrase that, they phrase

495
00:28:37,079 --> 00:28:40,119
it like they're the same level,
and to me it's like no and then

496
00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:41,880
over yeah, and then it leads
to the can be like, oh,

497
00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:45,240
can you find one for me?
But yeah, what do you want to

498
00:28:45,319 --> 00:28:47,839
think about or what do you want
to bring up with this classing system?

499
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:51,480
So well, at first I was
gonna mention the chick I obviously don't know.

500
00:28:51,519 --> 00:28:55,559
I'm trying to figure out is like
fast and can Callisto Callisto? Yeah?

501
00:28:55,599 --> 00:28:57,880
To me, they really pulled some
deep, some deep cuts for the

502
00:28:59,279 --> 00:29:02,480
mutants. Here, go ahead,
what do you mean by that well,

503
00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:04,359
because like even me, Marvel's like, oh you don't they are? Yeah,

504
00:29:04,359 --> 00:29:07,039
like or I have a general idea. I think the one that's in

505
00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:11,920
shock Waves is also like a combination
too. And that's the problem with like

506
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:14,519
early Marvel movies that me up as
a kid is a lot of Suddens,

507
00:29:14,559 --> 00:29:17,720
Like, let's just combine these characters
and it's like this eight year old trying

508
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:18,599
to learn and she's like, oh
fuck, I don't know who this is

509
00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:22,119
now. So but even for me
as an X Men fan, it's my

510
00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:25,079
favorite Mark And I'm not like,
you know, the biggest com book fan.

511
00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:26,519
I don't want to see any comics. Oh you're not a fan.

512
00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:30,160
Yeah, there's millions of different fans
out there that know a lot more than

513
00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:33,480
me. But I this is definitely
like some of these people are deep cuts

514
00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:37,039
that they were pulling out I think
for this one, and I don't know,

515
00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:41,079
I don't know why because Calisto is
there. Cool, but go so

516
00:29:41,119 --> 00:29:45,640
Calisto is who were dealing with Yes, sorry, I'd asked that question,

517
00:29:45,759 --> 00:29:48,039
and I think, well, I
think it's fine because even let's on this

518
00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:52,440
kind of stepping back from this,
our question here is that all these I

519
00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:56,440
find like these early X Men movies
kind of like as what you're saying for

520
00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:59,559
these comic books, they don't really
seem like there's some sort of like timeline

521
00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:03,240
or like there's no like bigger idea
thought process that we see now with obviously

522
00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:07,480
with the mcuh. Yeah, it's
kind of like one guy's just like,

523
00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:10,839
wouldn't be cool if they had classes
for like the X Men. Yeah,

524
00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:14,240
and that's like how like the Spider
Man film, Well, not really like

525
00:30:14,599 --> 00:30:17,319
it's just like, well, they
all I think they all kind of work

526
00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:19,920
that way till Faii stepped in.
Like even now you look at Chizam and

527
00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:23,200
Aukaman, they kind of have some
ties, but they're not really they're going

528
00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:26,240
back to that now, right because
it didn't work. But I think these

529
00:30:26,359 --> 00:30:30,319
more so then. I feel like
nowadays even directors will sit down and be

530
00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:33,119
like, oh, if I did
make a second one this way I do.

531
00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:36,519
I feel like early two thousand comic
movies were just one at a time

532
00:30:36,559 --> 00:30:38,160
and we'll deal with it as it
goes along and see what happens. Yeah,

533
00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:41,960
And I and it also is like
especially as we I think you're also

534
00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:44,400
saying that because of origins what you
just watching. I feel like as this

535
00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:48,519
franchise goes on, they just do
not pay any attention to con nudy or

536
00:30:48,519 --> 00:30:51,799
whatnot. They just go like just
make they treat all these movies like their

537
00:30:51,799 --> 00:30:53,680
else world sometimes like the Joker movie
where it's like, oh, just play

538
00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:56,960
around it and do an else world. Somethings just feel like that they don't

539
00:30:56,960 --> 00:31:00,000
feel like they're in the same universe. What do you want to tell these

540
00:31:00,079 --> 00:31:03,759
classes? I was just I want
to know, Yeah, I wanted to

541
00:31:03,799 --> 00:31:06,400
know like where they came from.
I wasn't sure if it was an actual

542
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:07,880
like conflict thing. No, I
don't know. I not that I know.

543
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:11,920
No, this is they maybe could
have put in the mood or comments

544
00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:14,839
at some point, but this is
this is not a popular thing from quans

545
00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:17,960
I've read or the cartoon series of
My class. Are they just trying to

546
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:22,480
like, uh really a push home, push forward the meaning of how strong

547
00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:26,720
Phoenix is if she's this class one? Yeah, I think some people are

548
00:31:26,759 --> 00:31:29,759
like pretty weak ass. Yeah.
And I think it's also for like the

549
00:31:29,759 --> 00:31:32,960
mainstream people that kind of get it
like okay, if they're a class or

550
00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:36,200
whatever and she's class that. But
I don't think you you needed that,

551
00:31:36,319 --> 00:31:38,119
No at all, not at all, and like I wanted to ask to

552
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:44,480
for you're making baseball cards or maybe
again, like just showing that they're just

553
00:31:44,519 --> 00:31:47,640
more powerful than everyone else in the
room, right, like forgetting the past

554
00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:52,759
two movies over, Magnio has led
multiple anti human terist attacks that Calisto characters.

555
00:31:52,759 --> 00:31:56,160
So when she so she knows we're
Titans or Titans, she knows we're

556
00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:57,640
mutants, are she can track them
up? And does she knows and she

557
00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:00,559
knows their powers or she is how
powerful they are. I think she knows

558
00:32:00,559 --> 00:32:04,759
how powerful they are. So it's
like, and did she see is she

559
00:32:04,839 --> 00:32:07,599
looking at you and seeing like,
oh, Tray's class two? Yeah,

560
00:32:07,599 --> 00:32:09,559
I guess so, which I don't
understand. I don't even understand how she

561
00:32:09,599 --> 00:32:14,240
can. I don't even understand how
she can track down a mistique I'm pulling

562
00:32:14,319 --> 00:32:16,880
up with her comic books. So
her abilities are yeah, Like I don't

563
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:20,680
even that's what I mean with these
movies. Why I may know his character

564
00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:24,440
but not abilities, uh, superhuman
senses, hide and strength, speed,

565
00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:30,200
agility, reflexes, accelerated healing factory. So I feel like you know the

566
00:32:30,279 --> 00:32:32,519
part where her and Storm fight and
she's moving really quick. I generally feel

567
00:32:32,559 --> 00:32:36,480
like that's her actual power. And
in the movie, they're just like,

568
00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:38,640
we're gonna give her some of this
because like I never remember that and from

569
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:42,720
comic book, like I said,
those are abilities, don't list any of

570
00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:45,440
Oh she gonna sense this. So
yeah, this is why I like,

571
00:32:45,519 --> 00:32:47,400
I probably don't know her because this
version is not I don't think it's a

572
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:51,079
real version. It's just like,
oh, this character is kind of cool,

573
00:32:51,079 --> 00:32:52,640
but we need we need someone to
do this for a plot point of

574
00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:54,799
class, so I just give it
to her. Okay, yeah, okay,

575
00:32:54,799 --> 00:32:58,680
cool. Yeah. I just had
to ask that because I was so

576
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:01,559
confused watching fair Enough. You know, don't worry. There's lots of stuff

577
00:33:01,599 --> 00:33:05,359
too. Uh, we'll go over
quick like Scott, because we don't have

578
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:08,000
much to talk about. We already
Scott. We'll bring him up quickly.

579
00:33:08,359 --> 00:33:13,720
Let's see where are we. Okay, Yeah, so this is the part

580
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:15,119
we talk about Scott. But this
is the part where he goes out like

581
00:33:15,319 --> 00:33:20,200
he had those visions. Gene is
just in this bubble randomly, and then

582
00:33:20,319 --> 00:33:22,319
she's just like I can control it
now and all this. I know it's

583
00:33:22,359 --> 00:33:24,319
a movie, and I know it's
gonna pan out, all right. But

584
00:33:24,319 --> 00:33:27,559
when she asked him to open his
eyes and he's like no, and she's

585
00:33:27,599 --> 00:33:30,039
like I can control it, and
he still does it, I would still

586
00:33:30,039 --> 00:33:30,680
be like, well, could you
just still, like at least step to

587
00:33:30,759 --> 00:33:34,480
the side and let me like what
happens? If she didn't and he just

588
00:33:34,519 --> 00:33:37,119
blew her the funk away, he'd
be so much more depressed than he was.

589
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:42,640
That would be so funny your back, Gene, what do we think

590
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:44,920
We talk about Scott Donald, but
what do we think about the actual death

591
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:49,000
scene of like them kissing her like
kind of turning like him into like I

592
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:51,559
don't know, he's type of veiny
and like I don't know what's happening to

593
00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:53,400
him, but what kind of like
a rogue? Yeah, what do we

594
00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:58,119
think about like Jean's actual reveals Phoenix
and her killing Scott off. Like we

595
00:33:58,119 --> 00:34:00,599
talked about Scott, we didn't talk
about her and she back officially very power,

596
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:05,200
So why did she kill him?
Because she's the dark Phoenix, right,

597
00:34:05,279 --> 00:34:08,400
she just wants more power? But
like why because she's not Geene anymore

598
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:13,119
because he had to go film Superman
Returns, but like in her screen anymore.

599
00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:19,000
But even It is weird because like
they don't give the Phoenix any motivation

600
00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:21,960
for her to be doing anything.
They kind of do. I kind of

601
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:24,079
think with the Cure stuff because you
kind of like okay, or even with

602
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:28,440
Xavier, I could see because like, oh, he's trying to control like

603
00:34:28,559 --> 00:34:31,320
put the as logan says, like
five times this movie put the Beast back

604
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:36,840
in the cage, like like we
get it, logo wellvering newer experiment years

605
00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:40,719
ago. Fuck. But I don't
have a solid answer for you why she

606
00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:45,760
tries to skill Scott because he doesn't
try to stop or to do anything,

607
00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:49,239
like it's he just she just kills
him and he didn't well obviously, like

608
00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:51,920
I guess you're not going to fight
back because you think, like this is

609
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:52,920
the person you love and all.
Well, I didn't think he saw it

610
00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:55,719
coming. I think it was too
late for him. Yeah, like his

611
00:34:55,719 --> 00:35:00,519
powers even worked. She just turned
e Yeah. I don't know, I'm

612
00:35:00,519 --> 00:35:02,760
gonna just missed selling. But I
was under the impression that she was just

613
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:07,679
like absorbing his power. So you
think he's not dead, No, Like

614
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:10,039
I think that's why she killed him, is like I can take this guy's

615
00:35:10,159 --> 00:35:13,719
life for us and become stronger,
but we don't get that said in the

616
00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:16,239
movie right exactly, Like I don't
know if I missed it, like killing

617
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:20,599
other people to do that same thing
when feeding off three. I guess that's

618
00:35:20,599 --> 00:35:24,079
fair. It was just really weird
there. Yeah, they like what Travis

619
00:35:24,119 --> 00:35:28,360
said. It's just like they did
not give the phoenix any or they didn't

620
00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:30,280
flesh it out for like any motivation
to do anything. Well, no,

621
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:34,679
and because like so other than Scott's
problems, the whole movie, it's like

622
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:37,840
this happens like twenty five half an
hour in and the whole movie has been

623
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:39,519
like the cure, this and that
Magne's talking about the cure, and then

624
00:35:39,519 --> 00:35:42,760
all of a sudden, Scott's on
a bike on alcohol, like and you're

625
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:45,159
like, right, Jean's in this
movie, and the dark Phenex in this

626
00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:46,760
movie, and it just pops like
so many times, like I know it's

627
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:50,480
a spoiler, not spoiler. I'm
down to the end. But when they

628
00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:53,480
win the big battle and Logan's just
like Geane, it's over and all those

629
00:35:53,599 --> 00:35:57,360
like soldiers Shooter, it's just like, right, we have to close up

630
00:35:57,400 --> 00:35:59,559
this Phoenix thing. She's not a
part of that battle at all. And

631
00:35:59,559 --> 00:36:01,400
then she's just like they win and
just like oh and then it goes to

632
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:04,840
ship. It's like every that's what
it feels like. Every time she's in

633
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:07,360
this they just feel like they forgot
about the Phoenix storyline, Like right,

634
00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:09,960
put her back, so many different
plots, Yeah, where can we fit

635
00:36:10,039 --> 00:36:13,840
in? Oh, we'll put her
here perfect like other than the maybe once

636
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:16,480
we get back to her place and
that she's just like falling Magneedo around.

637
00:36:16,639 --> 00:36:21,880
She's walking around, she's flying around
like she doesn't like like why she kill

638
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:24,519
I don't know. She's just evil
Okay, yeah, cool, definitely lazy

639
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:29,159
around there talking about evil people.
This is when we get Magneto and his

640
00:36:29,519 --> 00:36:32,639
band of mutes. They're breaking Mystique
out and they're also collecting so they we

641
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:37,760
meet a multiple man, we meet
Juggernaut, and do we meet anyone else

642
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:42,000
there? I don't think so.
I think it's just those it's those two

643
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:44,880
at the Stique. To me,
this is the moment where this actually felt

644
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:49,119
like a bad MCU movie, because
like the Juggernauts humor and his jokes.

645
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:51,760
To me, this just felt like
a mirror dimension. Like, man,

646
00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:53,679
this would be the MCU if it
was bad, you know, like I

647
00:36:54,039 --> 00:36:59,679
totally pictured him as like Rhino,
but like this movie to me, like

648
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:01,480
there's so many equips, but like
most of them don't work, like other

649
00:37:01,519 --> 00:37:05,199
than the beast and logan stuff like
the humanness doesn't work. But yeah,

650
00:37:05,199 --> 00:37:07,880
and then obviously we get the cures
weaponize what do we think about this?

651
00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:12,840
And the Stike gets taken out and
left behind? Oh right, I forgot

652
00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:16,440
she got shot. Character was so
cold form Magneto just one hundred percent,

653
00:37:16,519 --> 00:37:21,840
and like obviously we haven't gone there
yet in this world where you go back

654
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:23,679
in time and you like realize like
how close those two are and like,

655
00:37:24,079 --> 00:37:28,400
yeah, like you feel like there's
like like that would be a lot more

656
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:30,480
important to him than if Pyro got
shot. Right, Yeah, no,

657
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:35,199
one hundred percent. She's not one
of us anymore. I kind of blocked

658
00:37:35,199 --> 00:37:39,639
that part out. Another character's gone
very quickly. That's it. Yeah,

659
00:37:39,679 --> 00:37:44,039
I like that at the end when
you are like at the after that scene

660
00:37:44,079 --> 00:37:46,039
he's walking away and she's like He's
like she was so beautiful and everything like

661
00:37:46,079 --> 00:37:50,320
that, But that one I it
will get to it. I still feel

662
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:52,039
like I get that she's not one
of them, but yeah, it just

663
00:37:52,079 --> 00:37:54,559
feels like they've been through so much
it'd still be like, yeah, I

664
00:37:54,599 --> 00:37:59,280
don't know, maybe she could.
She's still she might still be on your

665
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:00,920
side because like, oh, I
understand when you guys are going through,

666
00:38:01,039 --> 00:38:04,920
you know, but just to turn
it so that to me, I can

667
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:07,840
kind of work it but doesn't really
feel the magnito. We've gone so far,

668
00:38:08,599 --> 00:38:13,440
let's see. And then at this
point, how do we get what?

669
00:38:13,599 --> 00:38:16,239
How do we get Storm and uh? Because my notes completely jumped,

670
00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:21,599
how do we get? Uh?
Logan and Storm to go to Alkhali Lake

671
00:38:21,639 --> 00:38:25,599
at this point, Oh, because
they're looking for Scott. Scott. Yeah,

672
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:29,719
Xavier like felt something right and he's
like going to alcohol, like yeah,

673
00:38:30,039 --> 00:38:31,920
yeah. So they go there.
It's all floaty and ship and then

674
00:38:32,119 --> 00:38:35,679
I'm jumping for it. But they
find Gene and then this is the part

675
00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:38,880
where Logan and Xavier have their conversation
about how Xavier is like, oh,

676
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:42,840
I had to he gives the backstory
of this phoenix blah blah blah, I

677
00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:45,960
had to lock her up. Logan
makes this crack about the putting the animal

678
00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:50,400
in the cage and everything, and
then uh, Logan and Jean Gene wakes

679
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:53,079
up. There's some hot, heavy
action going on Jane turn Logan's like,

680
00:38:53,119 --> 00:38:57,199
hey, where Scott. She kind
of is flipping in and out of Logan

681
00:38:57,320 --> 00:39:01,440
or Gene Jane in the Phoenix and
then it goes to shit and she escapes.

682
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:07,320
Yeah. Uh, I I don't
know how I feel about this scene.

683
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:13,159
It was I don't know. I
just felt like it, like it

684
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:15,280
kind of makes sense because Logan's just
so blinded with his love for Gene,

685
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:19,159
right, and obviously that's what he
sees. He doesn't see her as the

686
00:39:19,159 --> 00:39:22,360
phoenix of this evil character and like
how dangerous she actually is. But like,

687
00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:27,960
well even it wasn't that background story
of like what Exavier was doing to

688
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:30,639
her as well too, I think
he has that more emotional Okay, See,

689
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:35,119
I feel like I like blinked or
something when that scene happened, because

690
00:39:35,119 --> 00:39:37,280
remember earlier when I was asking like
how they like caged her up in the

691
00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:40,559
first place. I think I just
missed that part. But uh, was

692
00:39:40,599 --> 00:39:44,320
it Logan that like led her out? Because I I feel like she just

693
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:46,239
did it, Like she just would
have got out even if Logan wasn't there.

694
00:39:46,559 --> 00:39:50,719
She did just well, I think
she was just sitting there and like

695
00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:52,599
the screens just come up or whatever. And she just pops up. I

696
00:39:52,639 --> 00:39:57,639
can't remember. Maybe he did he
like touch the head gear. Maybe I'm

697
00:39:57,679 --> 00:40:00,920
not sure. He might have just
been like brushing her hair or something that's

698
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:04,800
off, but uh yeah, I
think she was going to escape no matter

699
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:07,199
what. I think maybe the idea
because Xavier Rayway comes back, he's like,

700
00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:09,960
what did you do? I think
the idea is that he didn't like

701
00:40:10,079 --> 00:40:14,079
call anyone right away that she woke
up, but he should have been,

702
00:40:14,079 --> 00:40:15,199
like, I mean, a buzz
professor. He took his time to like

703
00:40:15,519 --> 00:40:20,400
he think he could fix it,
yeah, or do something else. For

704
00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:22,800
a while, he was good for
Logan. He did turn her down,

705
00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:25,039
but like for a while, wasn't
going that route, you know, so

706
00:40:25,559 --> 00:40:31,159
scumbag Logan coming in and you know
Scott's dead. He thought it through,

707
00:40:31,199 --> 00:40:35,320
but it took a little while to
get there. So, Kyle, what

708
00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:39,559
do you think about this scene?
It's it was great. Do you not

709
00:40:39,639 --> 00:40:45,280
remember this scene well, because so
we were kind of jumping back we're talking

710
00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:50,320
about at the alcohol ache. No, this is well combining it all,

711
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:52,880
like when they found they bring her
back, I don't even remember, Like

712
00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:54,360
how do they find dream? Was
she just walking? You know, she's

713
00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:57,559
just on the ground, on the
ground. She's laying on the ground,

714
00:40:57,599 --> 00:41:00,199
and then they pick her up and
they're like, worre Scott? And then

715
00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:05,199
I think they find like some his
sunglasses or something like floating floating so cool,

716
00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:08,599
Like I guess it's just like very
like lackluster of like why like it

717
00:41:08,679 --> 00:41:15,480
goes back to why Scott dead?
But then we're back at like we don't

718
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:23,760
even like this just makes me soun
questions because just because Scott is gone and

719
00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:29,079
we don't even like go in depth
of like what's happening or or like no,

720
00:41:29,079 --> 00:41:32,880
none of the other characters like give
any acknowledgment to this at all.

721
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:37,360
Logan does ask where Scott and then
we never hear about it again. Yeah,

722
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:39,800
it's like he's like going back at
the mansion when they're making and then

723
00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:44,199
he's like, what happened to Scott? Yeah, exactly give me some issues

724
00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:50,599
over theirs, I am, but
just ignore me, Taylor. And then

725
00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:52,639
even when they're back at the at
the mansion as well too, Like I

726
00:41:52,639 --> 00:41:58,760
didn't think it was too bad.
It was exciting just off your mic off,

727
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:06,480
I still hear it. Yeah,
So when they're back at the matching

728
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:09,639
and they're kind of just going through
the motions of everything what's going on.

729
00:42:10,159 --> 00:42:13,480
I think like even at that part, like for me, it was it

730
00:42:13,519 --> 00:42:15,840
was just kind of all right,
Like even though it's nice to see like

731
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:22,639
Logan reconnect with with Gene again and
like trying to like help her like figure

732
00:42:22,639 --> 00:42:25,760
out what's going on because he's got
this background information of what's happened and that's

733
00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:29,280
why he has like a lot of
sympathy for her, and you know what,

734
00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:32,320
like he should have like talked to
Professor X to like try to like

735
00:42:34,079 --> 00:42:37,440
make things better. But he was
also an animal and cage ones too,

736
00:42:37,519 --> 00:42:40,239
so he understands. So you understand. No, I agree with what you're

737
00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:45,440
saying though, because that whole scene
with how like important it should have been.

738
00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:47,760
Of like Jane died in the last
movie, it was huge. Logan

739
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:52,840
was hit like his lover is gone. Yeah, and then Scott's just missing,

740
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:54,199
like you know he was there because
his glasses were there, and it

741
00:42:54,239 --> 00:43:00,880
felt like that whole uh, just
scene of after the Gene then go back

742
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:02,599
to the mansion and then she escapes
like I felt like you just floated through

743
00:43:02,639 --> 00:43:06,440
that. It's just like there's nothing
even really here. I don't know it

744
00:43:06,559 --> 00:43:08,440
just it felt like it could have
been so much more meaningful than it actually

745
00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:13,079
was. Yeah. Yeah, And
then after that, I think the Evil

746
00:43:13,199 --> 00:43:15,239
Munes are still just kind of hanging
out. And then uh, Clestos like,

747
00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:19,360
oh, I've got a reading of
a Mune that's like class five higher

748
00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:21,639
than you, two higher than I've
ever read. And then we get the

749
00:43:21,679 --> 00:43:24,280
scene up. We got Magneto and
his crew going to Jean's house, and

750
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:29,039
then we got a Xavier story and
there, yeah, she's there going to

751
00:43:29,079 --> 00:43:30,280
her house, and then yeah,
what do we think about the events that

752
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:35,079
full? Here also got Xavier trying
to talk gene bat or talk Phoenix back

753
00:43:35,079 --> 00:43:37,119
into Jeane. You got Magneedo who's
not helping the situation, but he's just

754
00:43:37,119 --> 00:43:42,239
like you've always told her back.
And then it leads to big fight scenes

755
00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:45,199
going on, and then it leads
to Jane killing Xavier. Another death within

756
00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:47,719
I don't know, first four or
five minutes, it's like three of them.

757
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:52,239
So he totally just vanished too.
Like I I wasn't convinced he was

758
00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:53,960
even dead, honestly, I was
like he just got transported to like another

759
00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:59,199
realm because he just he just pooves
well, he does kind of forgot to

760
00:43:59,199 --> 00:44:00,639
make you guys watch it for him, But there is an end credits scene

761
00:44:00,639 --> 00:44:05,280
at this movie. Yeah, I
forgot so at the beginning of the movie

762
00:44:05,599 --> 00:44:08,480
when he's talking that doctor more Tagart
who which doesn't make sense timeline because Mara

763
00:44:09,119 --> 00:44:13,480
is uh ends up being that young
girl in first class that he has a

764
00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:15,840
relationship with, but in this movie
he is i g. A six year

765
00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:20,159
old man and she is in her
like mid thirties, So it doesn't make

766
00:44:20,199 --> 00:44:22,679
sense, but whatever, that's the
I digress. Yeah, she's talking about

767
00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:25,599
how if it's right to go in
a conscious body. It's a guy in

768
00:44:25,599 --> 00:44:30,760
the Koma and talking about like the
idea of could you go into a conscious

769
00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:32,280
body? But is that right for
you to do? At the end of

770
00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:36,159
this movie, he does, Like
the end credits scene, is this Koma

771
00:44:36,159 --> 00:44:37,639
guy. You don't see his face, but more is like working on some

772
00:44:37,679 --> 00:44:40,639
stuff and he's like hello, Mara, and she's like Charles. So he

773
00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:46,039
like put his consciousness into some other
person's body. Oh yeah, well what

774
00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:51,480
dude? Yeah, so maybe that
explains why he just evaporated. But he

775
00:44:51,519 --> 00:44:53,239
did evaporate, so what do we
think about this? It was kind of

776
00:44:53,599 --> 00:45:00,760
upsetting, like like what do you
emotional emotionally like kind of just watch Exavier

777
00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:05,840
just like I don't know, like
snap, like flick, just dust away.

778
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:09,639
Yeah, and you know, like
even the kind of like the I

779
00:45:09,639 --> 00:45:14,360
don't know why there's so much fighting
happening as well too, Like well they

780
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:16,840
want them to get to Gene,
Yeah, I guess, but like I

781
00:45:17,199 --> 00:45:22,719
feel like there's like a lot of
unnecessary stuff of just like this, the

782
00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:25,519
whole fight scenes going up to it, and I guess, I guess you

783
00:45:25,519 --> 00:45:29,320
don't want to get hurt to Geene, but and you're trying to work together

784
00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:35,400
to like but I don't know,
I'm confused. Someone else talk. I

785
00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:39,800
really like the scene, like once
they get thouse, it's like what happened

786
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:43,519
to the living there in the first
place? I like, yeah, we

787
00:45:43,519 --> 00:45:46,840
don't know what happened to him.
I like I like the ending of this

788
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:51,639
scene because I like, I think
the person that sells the best. That

789
00:45:51,679 --> 00:45:54,360
is why we will get into origins
and whatnot. But I think Hugh Jackman

790
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:58,800
and Xavier do a good job at
making this scene, even though it's very

791
00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:04,719
rushed, even though it's uh should
be done much better. Even though there's

792
00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:07,800
been so much about the cure you
still care about Exavier, and you've had

793
00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:10,159
X one and X two, so
it is this killing of a major character.

794
00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:14,960
And I love Exavier when he just
like his last like line Surgey and

795
00:46:15,039 --> 00:46:15,920
just like, don't let it control
you. And I like that even in

796
00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:19,519
his last moments, he's still just
trying to help her out. And I

797
00:46:19,559 --> 00:46:22,519
think that the score is really good
in this moment when like Jean's losing her

798
00:46:22,519 --> 00:46:25,280
mind. She's put everyone in the
roof and you just see Logan klawn his

799
00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:29,239
way and he's trying to get there, and I think he just sells so

800
00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:31,320
great him just yelling know in that
moment he and even I'll give it to

801
00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:36,840
halle Berry too when they are like
Xayer blows up and even too, they

802
00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:37,960
do a great thing. They have
Magneed will be like Charles, like they

803
00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:42,360
show even in this moment where he's
like feeling bad, like yeah, his

804
00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:45,480
friend's about to die, and the
moment when Wolverine runs back in the house

805
00:46:45,519 --> 00:46:49,440
and all you see is the chair
and he just like looks at Storm and

806
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:52,400
it's like they both have that realization
and he just collapsed to his knees and

807
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:54,519
she like falls on top of him
It's like I said, to me,

808
00:46:54,559 --> 00:46:58,280
it's a great scene in a not
so great movie. That team should have

809
00:46:58,280 --> 00:47:00,480
so much more build up. It's
such a big character. But if you

810
00:47:00,559 --> 00:47:02,679
just isolating that, isolate that scene
alone. I think with the score and

811
00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:06,519
the production and the acting, it's
done really well. And to me it

812
00:47:06,599 --> 00:47:08,440
is like are package Stewart does a
good job, But I think it's just

813
00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:14,559
Hugh Jackman's emotions in that scene legitimately
sell like the weight of what just happened.

814
00:47:14,559 --> 00:47:16,679
I know, and I I agree
with what both of you guys said,

815
00:47:16,719 --> 00:47:20,119
because like you brought a good points
about like it was such a good

816
00:47:20,119 --> 00:47:22,159
scene in a bad movie, and
then you brought a good scene. It's

817
00:47:22,199 --> 00:47:27,159
just like or you brought up a
good point rather of a good scene about

818
00:47:27,159 --> 00:47:30,039
like the build up to that scene
was just so like, Yeah, it's

819
00:47:30,079 --> 00:47:34,920
just so convoluted, and that's messy. Mess literally Begneil's like keep them out

820
00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:38,280
of the house, and Juggernaut hits
Oreene and throws them into the house,

821
00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:42,159
and it's just like what is going
on here? It was just get into

822
00:47:42,199 --> 00:47:45,639
the house, throw these Yeah,
it was just an action scene for the

823
00:47:45,679 --> 00:47:47,639
sake of an action scene. I
think that that part was at least yeah,

824
00:47:47,639 --> 00:47:52,559
but uh, what what you mentioned
I want to touch upon is uh

825
00:47:52,679 --> 00:47:57,239
the moment that Charles actually like poofs
and then Magneto because it's like that's basically

826
00:47:57,239 --> 00:48:00,360
his rival. But like Magneto,
yeah, like he never would have thought

827
00:48:00,599 --> 00:48:04,000
that he would be the one killing
Charles, right or even like seeing him

828
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:06,760
dies, like he's always gonna be
around, He's always gonna be my my

829
00:48:07,159 --> 00:48:09,800
joker, my batman, right,
So when that actually happens, and he's

830
00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:14,880
just like shocked, like that actually
happened, and then you know, evil

831
00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:17,559
Magneto comes back, Oh, come
here, come here, Gene, no

832
00:48:17,599 --> 00:48:21,039
one can control you now, and
they do a good set up later on

833
00:48:21,119 --> 00:48:22,119
when Pyro's like, oh, if
you would have given me a chance,

834
00:48:22,159 --> 00:48:25,000
So I killed the old moll myself, and he just stops him, and

835
00:48:25,039 --> 00:48:29,320
he's like he just lays down the
line. You have no idea what Exavier

836
00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:30,960
did for me, and so don't
even talk about that. And that's what's

837
00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:35,920
strange because you have that Magneto,
but then you also have that Magnia who

838
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:39,360
left mystique. And also I'm jumping
forward a little bit, is the big

839
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:45,199
battle scene when he sends out all
those guys and he says, the pawns

840
00:48:45,239 --> 00:48:49,119
go first. My Magnia, who
my ideas, would not do that to

841
00:48:49,159 --> 00:48:52,320
me. He does not view other
mutos, right, yeah, exactly to

842
00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:54,639
me the X one x two Magneto
does not fit a lot of what he

843
00:48:54,679 --> 00:48:58,840
does there, so for him to
refer to other people of as kind as

844
00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:01,440
pawns, We're like, who ever's
writing this movie does not understand what Magneto

845
00:49:01,559 --> 00:49:05,719
is. They have a few ideas, but they do not get the whole

846
00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:07,119
grasp of the character because he would
not do that. And that's why it's

847
00:49:07,119 --> 00:49:09,400
strange in this movie. Sometimes he
is old Magni and no. Other times

848
00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:14,079
he's just like I'm evil and I'm
here to fuck up the X Man.

849
00:49:14,119 --> 00:49:15,960
You hit the nail on the head
right there. That's exactly what I was

850
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:19,519
gonna say, because it's like Magneto
is so not the normal Magneedo from like

851
00:49:19,519 --> 00:49:22,280
even just the past two movies,
let alone like the comics and everything.

852
00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:23,760
But it's just like he's so all
over the place. And then you get

853
00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:27,679
a scene like the Charles scene or
when he says Piro, like you have

854
00:49:27,679 --> 00:49:30,440
no idea what that guy did for
me? It's right, Oh that's Magneto,

855
00:49:30,519 --> 00:49:32,360
Yeah exactly, and then he's just
like, oh, yeah, she's

856
00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:36,880
not one of us, no more. The puns go for it like just

857
00:49:37,199 --> 00:49:39,800
I don't know. It was definitely
a mess with like some bright patches in

858
00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:44,519
there. I feel. Also,
I got a question I saw stan Lee

859
00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:47,440
cameo. Was it in that scene
or was it at the beginning? Yeah,

860
00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:51,239
because when jeans do not stuff,
the water goes right. Yeah,

861
00:49:51,239 --> 00:49:54,400
when he's hosing. Yeah, when
he's hosing. Kyle, did you have

862
00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:58,119
anything to add he or you want
to just leave with your thoughts on that?

863
00:49:58,320 --> 00:50:01,039
I think so. I think I
I was trying to get my thoughts

864
00:50:01,079 --> 00:50:04,840
out at the beginning, and then
I think you hit it because I had

865
00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:07,119
a problem with the fight at the
beginning until you like. But I liked

866
00:50:07,159 --> 00:50:12,519
the scene of when Jeane starts going
like brings up the whole house and the

867
00:50:12,559 --> 00:50:15,559
intensity goes up and the fights are
now done and it's just between Gene and

868
00:50:16,119 --> 00:50:20,280
Xavier and when they're just like looking
at each other, and then even when

869
00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:23,400
he goes and he looks and Logan
like opens up the door and then he

870
00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:30,440
looks at Xavier last smile like that
grin yeah, and you're like, oh

871
00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:32,679
man, and Logan knows what's coming. Yeah, and he's like Charles and

872
00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:37,800
I love you see like the skin
on his like knuckles like burning off really

873
00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:40,400
cool. Yeah, So that was
it. My only thing I had on

874
00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:45,760
that scene that as a negative is
when they're Xavier mcneed are going back and

875
00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:47,719
forth about like, you know,
don't control you've always held her black blah

876
00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:52,280
blah blah, and he's something like
to control it and mean Neiel's like,

877
00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:55,239
I think he wants to give you
the cure. And for me, it's

878
00:50:55,280 --> 00:51:00,679
like she has no context of what
you're talking about because she's in a fucking

879
00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:04,679
like bubble for years and then she
was at the mansion she broke out the

880
00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:07,079
Winter Parents, so she has no
idea what magnio' stom about. It's just

881
00:51:07,119 --> 00:51:09,199
them trying to add back in like, oh, remember this is the same

882
00:51:09,239 --> 00:51:13,599
movie. I think you want to
give her the key and what is this

883
00:51:13,679 --> 00:51:16,280
matter to her? She just trying
to throw gas on the fire. Yeah,

884
00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:19,719
like she has no idea what you're
talking about. But that I think

885
00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:22,719
was just again like them trying to
interweave these storylines and it doesn't work out.

886
00:51:23,159 --> 00:51:25,239
Uh, yeah, and then after
that, Yeah, Xavier is dead.

887
00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:29,400
And there's just one little thing I
love like Wolverine when he's on the

888
00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:31,280
ground here Jackman on his knees,
he's just like punching the sky. He's

889
00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:34,480
just so mad, but he's like
you can tell he's just exhaust just like

890
00:51:34,559 --> 00:51:38,239
little things that Jackman does, so
fantastic. Magneto pimps off with Jeane,

891
00:51:38,360 --> 00:51:40,920
like let's get you out of here. Then we get the funeral, and

892
00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:45,119
we haven't really talked about this because
it wasn't my note, so we kind

893
00:51:45,119 --> 00:51:47,960
of skipped over it. So at
the funeral we got exist. So yeah,

894
00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:52,679
Scott, no funeral, but Xavier
funeral, huge gravestone. He even

895
00:51:52,679 --> 00:51:55,000
gets like a nice little fire going
on all the time. Uh. So

896
00:51:55,119 --> 00:52:00,480
it's very sad and everything like that. Everyone's dressed up nice. Logan's on

897
00:52:00,519 --> 00:52:02,239
he's just on the bulk and he
watched this all go down. Classic Wolverine.

898
00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:05,880
So we haven't talked about this at
all. But Bobby is sitting in

899
00:52:05,960 --> 00:52:08,880
between Rogue and Kitty and he holds
both their hands. There's a scene we

900
00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:13,360
didn't talk about earlier in the movie. There's a scene they we didn't talk

901
00:52:13,400 --> 00:52:16,320
about earlier in the movie where Rogues
kind of she's pissy about something and Bobby's

902
00:52:16,360 --> 00:52:21,400
like, Bobby's like, and Bobby's
like, what's wrong? And then she

903
00:52:21,559 --> 00:52:23,360
just I can't remember how it comes
along, but she just says something like,

904
00:52:23,519 --> 00:52:28,960
I know what you want. That's
what every guy does, just only

905
00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:32,159
want one thing exactly. So,
like we hinted about, there is this

906
00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:37,920
like pseudo love triangle going on,
but not really, but there is.

907
00:52:37,960 --> 00:52:43,760
As far as Rogue and Bobby are
together. Bobby and Kitty are just friends,

908
00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:45,639
but like she sees them touching,
hanging out, she's getting jealous.

909
00:52:45,800 --> 00:52:49,840
And even so, and let's talk
about this, we haven't talked about all

910
00:52:50,519 --> 00:52:54,800
I don't. Yeah, so I
didn't at this point completely. Bobby has

911
00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:58,920
the high ground. He can say
whatever he wants. And I get that

912
00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:01,360
Exavier has died, but I think
it was a little balls at the funeral

913
00:53:01,400 --> 00:53:07,079
to be holding both her hands and
it didn't add anything good to this situation.

914
00:53:07,280 --> 00:53:09,559
So what do we think about all
them? Bobby, Rogue, and

915
00:53:09,679 --> 00:53:13,559
Kitty for the first of being paid
played by Ellen Page in this movie.

916
00:53:13,559 --> 00:53:15,719
So what do we think about this
dynamic? The right of the hop I'm

917
00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:22,559
notorious Ellen Page like fanboy, so
I'm obviously in team Ellen Page and team

918
00:53:22,639 --> 00:53:25,400
Kitty in this one. But uh, that's totally just like my young my

919
00:53:25,440 --> 00:53:30,480
younger days, just totally crushing on
that character. But uh, yeah,

920
00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:32,880
I don't know rogue was. I
don't know, like if you think,

921
00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:36,199
like if you look at it from
her point of view, obviously it's a

922
00:53:36,199 --> 00:53:38,199
shitty situation, like you have this
boyfriend you can't you can't even kiss,

923
00:53:38,320 --> 00:53:43,400
can't touch her anything. And then
oh absolutely that. Yeah, yeah,

924
00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:45,280
we'll get to because she's seen coming
out with her and Storm, and Storm

925
00:53:45,360 --> 00:53:49,239
is one of the most self righteous. Oh no, that was earlier.

926
00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:51,840
We'll get to I'll bring it up. But it's yeah, yeah, she's

927
00:53:52,320 --> 00:53:54,400
Logan as well too. I had
a good scene though, that was after

928
00:53:54,440 --> 00:53:59,320
the after the funeral, Yeah,
because she's thinking about leaving right and Lowan's

929
00:53:59,360 --> 00:54:01,360
like, I hope you're not the
lean about for some boy for the good

930
00:54:01,360 --> 00:54:04,960
reasons. And they have a great
scene. But that's the only interaction they

931
00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:07,920
have again, which sucks, but
I can't understand. But I love their

932
00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:09,159
chemistry. I forgot about that scene. I actually really liked it too,

933
00:54:09,159 --> 00:54:12,320
because it's like I'm not like I'm
not your dad. I'm not going to

934
00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:14,800
stop you, but I just wanted
you to do it for the right reason,

935
00:54:14,840 --> 00:54:16,840
do it for you, for him
exactly. And at no point though,

936
00:54:16,880 --> 00:54:20,360
has ever been like you should maybe
think about this cure. It's all

937
00:54:20,559 --> 00:54:23,800
man. Yeah, he's definitely just
like a team girl, like you know,

938
00:54:24,119 --> 00:54:29,199
the amost the chemistry going on in
her mind. But uh, going

939
00:54:29,239 --> 00:54:32,480
back to the love triangle where we
just we were just talking about review,

940
00:54:32,480 --> 00:54:35,280
I forg I forget what we talk
about, Beau, we haven' talked about

941
00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:38,119
the three characters all either too.
You were you were just talking. I

942
00:54:38,159 --> 00:54:45,679
was just I was just fanboying over
Kitty officially. Well, yeah, it's

943
00:54:45,760 --> 00:54:49,320
nice to see just all of them
in general, like part of the team.

944
00:54:49,639 --> 00:54:52,320
I've a big quite I don't really
know what Rogue would do, like

945
00:54:52,599 --> 00:54:54,360
he's part of the team. I
don't know heither like sneaks up on someone,

946
00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:58,119
like grabs his ankle, because like
I feel like in the comments make

947
00:54:58,159 --> 00:55:00,840
her a lot more powerful. She
doesn't do this in this movie, but

948
00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:02,800
in the comics and animated series at
times she's been the pilot. So maybe

949
00:55:02,840 --> 00:55:06,559
you could say that, But yeah, I don't know, especially against the

950
00:55:06,559 --> 00:55:09,320
sentinels and this rogue. But like
Rogue in the comics, like I've told

951
00:55:09,360 --> 00:55:13,199
you guys several times, she has
her powers from Captain Marvel, So not

952
00:55:13,239 --> 00:55:15,000
only can she fly, she has
like super strength. This in that this

953
00:55:15,119 --> 00:55:20,199
rogue does not have that, like
Rogue has been known, like she could

954
00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:22,559
fly to his sentinel and just like
punch its head off. This rogue couldn't

955
00:55:22,559 --> 00:55:27,119
be doing that, So I don't
know why she's there. That's why I

956
00:55:27,239 --> 00:55:30,119
like, okay, I'm jumping back. We forgot this. When Beast originally

957
00:55:30,119 --> 00:55:32,599
came to school to tell them about
the cure and Rogue comes in, She's

958
00:55:32,639 --> 00:55:36,360
like, oh, is it true
there's a cure, And then Storm's like

959
00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:39,159
no, because there's nothing wrong with
us. Fuck you, Like you have

960
00:55:39,280 --> 00:55:44,000
no idea what Rogue's been through,
and that's everybody. It's like she has

961
00:55:44,039 --> 00:55:46,440
the worst power ever won for her
life. And two this movie is not

962
00:55:46,480 --> 00:55:51,280
shown anyway that she can use this
power to do good for the team,

963
00:55:51,320 --> 00:55:54,079
So it's like, fuck you tell
me I shouldn't be using this cure.

964
00:55:54,239 --> 00:55:58,079
Like Storm is so self righteous in
this movie. It's ridiculous. I don't

965
00:55:58,079 --> 00:56:00,559
really think she's part of the team
at all. She's just more of a

966
00:56:00,559 --> 00:56:01,880
student who goes to this. No, she's on the team though, remember

967
00:56:01,920 --> 00:56:06,119
that the beginning that training room she
has her own suit now, so she's

968
00:56:06,159 --> 00:56:08,400
there. She got to see Bobby
save Kitty and Ky, so we didn't

969
00:56:08,440 --> 00:56:13,960
see her do anything in this scene. She was just spectator. Yeah classic.

970
00:56:14,119 --> 00:56:16,960
Yeah again, I kind of forgot
where I was going with my train

971
00:56:17,039 --> 00:56:21,280
of thought. I was just fanboying
over Elm Page. Yeah, that rogue

972
00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:23,079
and Bobby. Bobby doesn't get much
to do. He's fine. I still

973
00:56:23,159 --> 00:56:25,920
like that. Actors. Ye,
I'll quickly touch upon what you mentioned at

974
00:56:25,920 --> 00:56:30,079
the funeral. I wasn't too triggered
about it because I don't I don't know

975
00:56:30,119 --> 00:56:31,800
obviously, like take my bias out
of for Ellen Page, but uh,

976
00:56:32,239 --> 00:56:36,719
I don't know. It's it's like
Kitty the character, she doesn't really have

977
00:56:36,760 --> 00:56:39,280
anyone to like for emotional support there, and like she does say that like

978
00:56:39,280 --> 00:56:42,559
the professor was like a really big
part of her life, right, Like

979
00:56:42,559 --> 00:56:45,840
you get to see like even when
she wasn't Ellen Page playing Kitty, she

980
00:56:45,880 --> 00:56:50,840
was in his classes sometimes. Yeah, so like and just for all mutants

981
00:56:50,880 --> 00:56:52,800
that were at that school, like
he was basically a father figure for people

982
00:56:52,800 --> 00:56:55,719
that didn't have that right, So
what did you think with ice skating sea

983
00:56:55,800 --> 00:57:00,639
ice skating scene? I mean,
and that's how I was pretty bold.

984
00:57:00,679 --> 00:57:05,239
I'm not gonna that was more than
just like hey, this is just a

985
00:57:05,280 --> 00:57:07,320
girls school. It's like, yeah, like gonna make her feel good exactly,

986
00:57:07,559 --> 00:57:10,320
just like giving someone a hand at
a funeral, like I'll buy but

987
00:57:10,360 --> 00:57:15,880
it's like you want to go have
some fun. Yeah, I miss Winter.

988
00:57:15,320 --> 00:57:20,840
You know you have rogue and he's
thinking, oh you you might be

989
00:57:20,920 --> 00:57:24,039
interested in me. I don't have
rogue right now. Maybe you should bring

990
00:57:24,480 --> 00:57:30,159
rogue along skating? No, like
it, we can't hold her hand.

991
00:57:30,280 --> 00:57:34,760
Yeah, I'll give you that one
though. That was definitely bold. Probably

992
00:57:34,840 --> 00:57:37,679
sees that, and that's kind of
the like tipping point of like I'm out

993
00:57:37,679 --> 00:57:43,599
of here. So so yeah,
overall, I mean, it definitely wasn't

994
00:57:43,800 --> 00:57:45,760
there's so many there's so much things
going on in this movie, but that

995
00:57:46,119 --> 00:57:50,639
definitely was a minor one on like
even all this different subplots that they had.

996
00:57:50,719 --> 00:57:53,760
Oh yeah, so I wasn't too
invested in that. I actually really

997
00:57:53,800 --> 00:57:58,800
like this little awkward loved triangle,
yeah, because it just like a's kind

998
00:57:58,800 --> 00:58:02,400
of something different because this movie,
Like now we're really diving into it.

999
00:58:02,440 --> 00:58:05,960
Like it's just kind of all over
the place. But this is like what

1000
00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:09,000
I like about all over the place
where like someone is just doing something super

1001
00:58:09,079 --> 00:58:12,880
like low key scummy and you're like, dude, what are you doing?

1002
00:58:13,039 --> 00:58:17,000
Like but like this is so good
and want to be watching Oh yeah,

1003
00:58:17,639 --> 00:58:20,400
Like I don't want to be in
it at all, but like this is

1004
00:58:20,440 --> 00:58:22,960
great, like your logan, just
like I hope you're doing the right thing.

1005
00:58:24,039 --> 00:58:29,119
Yeah, you do you look out
for yourself. Yeah, let me

1006
00:58:29,199 --> 00:58:32,480
a fuck off and deal with my
psycho ex girlfriend out there now. Yeah,

1007
00:58:34,000 --> 00:58:36,960
so good. Even like so like
yeah, I'm totally fine with the

1008
00:58:36,960 --> 00:58:38,960
whole funeral, like him holding hands. It's more of like a cumunity thing

1009
00:58:39,000 --> 00:58:42,800
of like you know, just they
have each other, so it's all good.

1010
00:58:42,920 --> 00:58:45,039
Good. Like if there's more people
like kind of holding each other and

1011
00:58:45,079 --> 00:58:49,440
like sobbing, then it would make
that a little bit better. But that

1012
00:58:49,480 --> 00:58:53,960
didn't happen. But that's fine.
But even like their communications, like when

1013
00:58:54,039 --> 00:58:57,960
Kiddy was like, oh, like
you know, he was like a father

1014
00:58:58,000 --> 00:59:00,239
figure too, or like he was
like he really means something, like he

1015
00:59:00,320 --> 00:59:05,360
brought me here. It's like yeah, and Frost. He just says,

1016
00:59:05,679 --> 00:59:09,320
yeah, he brought me here too, like everyone else had the exact same

1017
00:59:09,360 --> 00:59:15,280
thing, like you're not by yourself
on here, like talk to Colosses Jesus,

1018
00:59:15,360 --> 00:59:19,239
Yeah, no kidding. So anyways, I love the love triangle.

1019
00:59:19,519 --> 00:59:23,079
I thought it was great, but
then it's just like and then after I

1020
00:59:23,079 --> 00:59:30,079
guess when once some rogue left that
kind of look, she's not in the

1021
00:59:30,119 --> 00:59:31,719
rest of It's not even like Bobby
and Kitty are getting it on right now.

1022
00:59:31,719 --> 00:59:35,360
You know, everyone just goes in
the wrong corners. There's a great

1023
00:59:35,360 --> 00:59:38,199
scene where Bobby is looking for Rogue
and they show the Colossales walking the hallway

1024
00:59:38,239 --> 00:59:42,639
and he's just carrying this massive TV. It's just went arm and he's like,

1025
00:59:43,239 --> 00:59:45,960
she left a few hours ago.
Where she goes, I don't know.

1026
00:59:46,119 --> 00:59:50,079
And I like the subtleness of just
like cause he is so strong,

1027
00:59:50,159 --> 00:59:52,039
he's just car like. It's just
so casual. So it's like he's not

1028
00:59:52,079 --> 00:59:54,599
in it a lot. But I
just loved all the scenes and glosses in

1029
00:59:54,639 --> 00:59:57,880
there. He just doesn't give a
fuck. All these people lies. I

1030
00:59:57,920 --> 01:00:00,880
just want to be an X man. You know, he's no storylines or

1031
01:00:00,880 --> 01:00:04,519
whatever. I before you go,
I want to quickly mention on the Love

1032
01:00:04,559 --> 01:00:09,199
Triangle. Now's the time because we're
never gonna talk about it. There they

1033
01:00:09,280 --> 01:00:14,599
had such like potential to have like
a kiddie and rogue like scene where they

1034
01:00:14,679 --> 01:00:16,239
talk. I don't think they even
talked about once. No, it was

1035
01:00:16,280 --> 01:00:20,199
so weird when they get to the
trivia because I got another fun thing to

1036
01:00:20,199 --> 01:00:22,880
add to the sprinkle of what was
possibly in there. But before we get

1037
01:00:22,920 --> 01:00:27,000
into that, at this point,
the CIA, whoever they are, whoever's

1038
01:00:27,039 --> 01:00:30,039
working with them. Oh and also
I forgot to mention Beasts was pissed that

1039
01:00:30,079 --> 01:00:31,400
he found out that they were using
the cure as a weapon, so he

1040
01:00:31,480 --> 01:00:35,039
left and he's with the X Men. Now, did you like the Love

1041
01:00:35,079 --> 01:00:39,559
Triangle? Uh? Yeah, we
didn't hear your opinion. Yeah, yes,

1042
01:00:39,639 --> 01:00:43,840
for comedic value. No for story
because it's just so thin. It's

1043
01:00:43,840 --> 01:00:45,920
not it's so thin. It's never
really touched upon again. But uh yeah.

1044
01:00:46,239 --> 01:00:49,760
The thing is, I guess it
helps is I like all those actors

1045
01:00:49,760 --> 01:00:52,159
in there, But it just feels
very much like when we did the spimn

1046
01:00:52,159 --> 01:00:54,360
Retch of TV show. Just so
paper thin. It just feels That's why

1047
01:00:54,880 --> 01:00:58,360
it just feels like back when I
was in middle school or high school.

1048
01:00:58,360 --> 01:01:00,679
Like that's what I feel. If
this was like a Zoe Won on One

1049
01:01:00,719 --> 01:01:01,880
show, it'd be like, oh, this makes sense, but these people

1050
01:01:01,920 --> 01:01:07,119
are in their early twenties, like
they shouldn't be like nah, no that

1051
01:01:07,159 --> 01:01:10,119
they're still in school. Yeah,
fair enough, it should happens all the

1052
01:01:10,159 --> 01:01:15,000
time after that. Whoever, the
government has figured out where Magneto's camp is

1053
01:01:15,039 --> 01:01:19,800
and everything like that. Oh I
like that scene are about the woods?

1054
01:01:20,159 --> 01:01:25,840
Yes, multiple man, the only
three scene I've I'm trying to figure out.

1055
01:01:28,159 --> 01:01:29,960
Yeah, that is okay, I'm
trying to figure out the order of

1056
01:01:30,000 --> 01:01:31,079
it. So anyway, so they're
like, oh, how do we figure

1057
01:01:31,119 --> 01:01:35,920
this out? So Hell have no
wrath like a woman's scorn. One,

1058
01:01:36,360 --> 01:01:38,719
I don't understand why, and maybe
it's her cutting a deal, but mystique

1059
01:01:38,719 --> 01:01:42,199
should for sure be in prison.
She should not just be being able to

1060
01:01:42,239 --> 01:01:46,079
walk up the government. Yeah they
do, because remember the president says like,

1061
01:01:46,239 --> 01:01:50,360
Hell have no fear like a woman's
scorn. He turned her back on

1062
01:01:50,400 --> 01:01:52,239
her And that's the only reason why. That's why this is not a good

1063
01:01:52,280 --> 01:01:58,079
movie, because they they they sabotage
Magneto's character just so they could have mystique,

1064
01:01:58,079 --> 01:02:00,480
come back later, try and screw
them, and and yeah, it's

1065
01:02:00,519 --> 01:02:02,840
turned out that the camp is just
multiple man and then I think after that

1066
01:02:02,960 --> 01:02:07,480
is when we get the scene of
Logan's getting here in gene thoughts, and

1067
01:02:07,519 --> 01:02:10,079
then he goes to the actual camp
and he has like that fight with that

1068
01:02:10,199 --> 01:02:14,480
Spike guy. Lots of Spike guys
in this movie. And then he finds

1069
01:02:14,559 --> 01:02:16,599
Jean, but then Magneto just tells
him to go away and just fucking chuck

1070
01:02:16,760 --> 01:02:23,639
him a long ways, and then
we get back to the scene, and

1071
01:02:23,639 --> 01:02:27,400
then we get back to the mansion. He's all fighter up. He's like

1072
01:02:27,480 --> 01:02:30,480
going to he goes to his like
cupboard and he's just like pulling stuff up.

1073
01:02:30,519 --> 01:02:32,599
I don't know why, because like
you were already at this camp,

1074
01:02:32,639 --> 01:02:35,920
like I don't know where you're going. And then they just get the scene

1075
01:02:35,920 --> 01:02:37,480
where Storm is like you're gonna have
to maybe kill her and he's like I

1076
01:02:37,519 --> 01:02:40,599
can't do that and she's like because
you love her. And then it's like,

1077
01:02:40,639 --> 01:02:43,599
well, yeah, no ship because
he made it. Then the first

1078
01:02:43,599 --> 01:02:45,599
movie, like why is this a
big revelation for him? He said the

1079
01:02:45,599 --> 01:02:50,000
first movie, my heart belongs to
someone else. He clearly fucking loves her

1080
01:02:50,079 --> 01:02:52,079
in like the first five minutes.
Yeah, no, it was the end

1081
01:02:52,079 --> 01:02:54,639
of the movie. He said that, though you know he said it.

1082
01:02:54,719 --> 01:02:59,079
He said, I mean they try
to make it some big reveal that like

1083
01:02:59,119 --> 01:03:01,519
he loves her, But we had
a pretty good idea. Who's sorry,

1084
01:03:01,639 --> 01:03:04,559
no go ahead, because that's a
bunch of stuff I threw out. I'm

1085
01:03:04,559 --> 01:03:07,559
just trying to because I'm trying to
get through everything before because the big bow

1086
01:03:07,679 --> 01:03:09,599
is about to come up. Yeah, before he goes to the woods,

1087
01:03:09,840 --> 01:03:13,480
was I might just be imagining this, but was who, like who is

1088
01:03:13,519 --> 01:03:15,000
he with? Like before he went
there, he was with nobody. I

1089
01:03:15,039 --> 01:03:17,880
think it was just after the funeral
he starts hearing voices and she's kind of

1090
01:03:17,880 --> 01:03:21,679
telling him where to go, and
he decides I'm gonna go with her alone

1091
01:03:21,679 --> 01:03:24,119
and not tell anyone else. Okay. I for some reason in my mind

1092
01:03:24,119 --> 01:03:27,440
I thought he was like talking to
someone They're like, where are you going?

1093
01:03:27,480 --> 01:03:29,880
It's just like you know your business? I think she I think she

1094
01:03:30,000 --> 01:03:31,679
said he. I think Storm says
it to him when he gets back,

1095
01:03:32,159 --> 01:03:35,800
because he's like to find her,
but it's like, well it's not gonna

1096
01:03:35,840 --> 01:03:38,719
work. Make Neil can just like
and like you mentioned at the end of

1097
01:03:38,719 --> 01:03:40,800
the movie, like I do like
that, but at this point she's like,

1098
01:03:40,800 --> 01:03:43,880
lol, when you're so dumb,
like you're not going to get to

1099
01:03:43,920 --> 01:03:46,400
her, Like he it's so easy. Yeah, I love that reoccurring.

1100
01:03:46,400 --> 01:03:50,480
To me, it's just like Wolverine
trying to take on Magneto. He's like,

1101
01:03:50,519 --> 01:03:54,519
oh, my bones. He like
goes again, my bones. And

1102
01:03:54,559 --> 01:03:58,559
then the other thing we gone in
that woods was just a subtle setup of

1103
01:03:59,039 --> 01:04:02,000
jeans, like a little because she
was Magneto in her ran some conversation and

1104
01:04:02,039 --> 01:04:05,079
he shows her that cure thing finally, remember, she like dispatches it and

1105
01:04:05,119 --> 01:04:09,119
like threatens him with it, and
she's like, you want to control me?

1106
01:04:09,239 --> 01:04:12,480
And that's like his biggest fear.
Yeah. Yeah, So I kind

1107
01:04:12,480 --> 01:04:15,079
of not sure if you had anything
on that segment of the movie. No,

1108
01:04:15,119 --> 01:04:18,079
not not at all. Just like
I guess, like you just see

1109
01:04:18,119 --> 01:04:21,519
Magneto just go realize like, oh, you know, maybe Exavier was right,

1110
01:04:21,719 --> 01:04:25,800
yeah you slowly, yeah, you
know, but it's too definitely too

1111
01:04:25,880 --> 01:04:29,519
like when he fully realized that.
And then after this we get the whole

1112
01:04:29,639 --> 01:04:32,039
X men. They're all suited up. It's literally just be there's a great

1113
01:04:32,039 --> 01:04:34,559
scene of beasts, like, oh
last time, Like he's stretching and it's

1114
01:04:34,559 --> 01:04:38,079
too big. He's like, I
haven't put this on since I team classic

1115
01:04:38,079 --> 01:04:41,440
suit, right, yeah, well
in this world yeah no, no,

1116
01:04:41,480 --> 01:04:44,400
it's still like a black leather with
some like kind of leather orange. It's

1117
01:04:44,440 --> 01:04:47,199
not in like comics. He usually
just has like a speedle on and it's

1118
01:04:47,239 --> 01:04:50,599
just his body. He usually never
wears a suit because he doesn't need to.

1119
01:04:50,599 --> 01:04:56,599
He's the beast. And then Hugh
Jackman Wolverene is giving the whole speech

1120
01:04:56,639 --> 01:05:01,400
to the cruiser. It's like storm, uh, coloss Iceman, Kitty and

1121
01:05:01,480 --> 01:05:04,920
b So it's just like the five
of them. And because they've at this

1122
01:05:05,000 --> 01:05:09,480
point Magneto he took up the Golden
gate Bridge and they're going to get The

1123
01:05:09,599 --> 01:05:12,920
main plant is they're gonna get this
kid who makes the cure. And they

1124
01:05:12,920 --> 01:05:15,039
haven't said it, but they're gonna
kill them pretty much. They're gonna do

1125
01:05:15,119 --> 01:05:17,039
something with them. So and then
then of course their plan is to stop

1126
01:05:17,079 --> 01:05:19,519
them. And then I'm just gonna
say, we got the big battle.

1127
01:05:19,679 --> 01:05:21,559
What do you want to say anything
in the Big Battle? The whole thing.

1128
01:05:21,639 --> 01:05:24,880
It will wait to the Geene stuff. But I'm not gonna break down

1129
01:05:24,880 --> 01:05:27,880
the battle piece of piece, but
we get the the ending battle of they

1130
01:05:27,920 --> 01:05:30,360
all show up and we fight the
hoodie. I kind of wish at the

1131
01:05:30,400 --> 01:05:35,480
beginning, but even before this battle
that they didn't show us that these guns

1132
01:05:35,480 --> 01:05:42,039
that the military is using were met
like the plaslastic with the cure would have

1133
01:05:42,079 --> 01:05:45,119
been a nice little twist. It
would have been a nice of them because

1134
01:05:45,159 --> 01:05:49,639
and then you saw you saw coming
goes like oh they're smart, they've learned,

1135
01:05:49,679 --> 01:05:53,079
and it's like, yeah, like
we just saw this, like I

1136
01:05:53,079 --> 01:05:57,400
don't know, Like that is a
good point. It kills all the tension

1137
01:05:57,480 --> 01:05:59,800
of that scene because before you've been
like, oh, Magneto is gonna go

1138
01:05:59,840 --> 01:06:01,039
off here, and then it's just
like, well, I know what's gonna

1139
01:06:01,039 --> 01:06:05,880
happen that The most annoying thing is
the fact that he still doesn't go off.

1140
01:06:06,119 --> 01:06:10,920
There's still like there's like those soldiers
in those metal towers. There's so

1141
01:06:11,119 --> 01:06:14,280
much for him to fucking throw.
He could take chunks of that bridge,

1142
01:06:14,320 --> 01:06:19,159
Like, but he's just started throwing
cars. But after YEA, why is

1143
01:06:19,239 --> 01:06:24,119
that You're if you can throw fire
cars, why isn't that your first move?

1144
01:06:25,639 --> 01:06:27,480
But he didn't need to. He
could have kept them all alive.

1145
01:06:27,519 --> 01:06:32,400
Like it makes I think the whole
scene is just dumb. Everything that happens

1146
01:06:32,800 --> 01:06:35,639
kiddies and Juggernauts chases, all right, but we get the bat on the

1147
01:06:35,719 --> 01:06:42,000
Juggernaut bitch line, which is just
it was commenting on a meme back in

1148
01:06:42,039 --> 01:06:45,960
the day, like it's just the
hope and just I think they on paper

1149
01:06:45,079 --> 01:06:48,519
like let's do a war of mutants, but the problem is one you only

1150
01:06:48,559 --> 01:06:55,679
got like five good guy mutants,
yeah, and not barely call asses with

1151
01:06:56,000 --> 01:06:58,960
them, so like there's that,
and then it's just them fighting like a

1152
01:06:58,960 --> 01:07:01,679
bunch of cannon far that no unique
powers. None of the battles are really

1153
01:07:01,719 --> 01:07:05,519
that cool, like how Storm takes
out callistos like Electricuser on the fence and

1154
01:07:05,559 --> 01:07:12,079
her like her whatever her, yeah, likes he Like there's so much cheesy

1155
01:07:12,079 --> 01:07:15,280
stuff that happens in this the balls
guy like grow those back. I laughed

1156
01:07:15,320 --> 01:07:19,119
when it happened because Hugh Jackman's delivery
it's just so good, and I think

1157
01:07:19,119 --> 01:07:21,800
that's just because he can get past
the ship. But I just think this

1158
01:07:21,880 --> 01:07:28,280
whole battle is not good because it's
the good guys bad guys, which like

1159
01:07:28,440 --> 01:07:30,880
the main bad guys and the main
good guys. Let's just say there's five

1160
01:07:30,960 --> 01:07:32,639
each year, and then they should
have done that. It's literally like just

1161
01:07:32,679 --> 01:07:36,920
like the generic mutants that are all
just hoodie saying they're all the same gray

1162
01:07:36,960 --> 01:07:41,079
sweat pants, and then like the
equivalent for the good guy, he's just

1163
01:07:41,119 --> 01:07:45,559
like the production was cheap. Yeah, and then like the equivalent of those

1164
01:07:45,800 --> 01:07:49,920
hoodie dudes for the good guys are
just like the cops who all die when

1165
01:07:50,360 --> 01:07:57,639
pops off, she kills hundreds of
innocent people, just like that. Before

1166
01:07:57,719 --> 01:08:00,199
that scene, I had to ask, though, how does mag needle why?

1167
01:08:00,679 --> 01:08:03,119
I don't understand this he I think
he uses the metal to like push

1168
01:08:03,239 --> 01:08:05,880
himself up. So it's like if
you had very powerful water, you could

1169
01:08:05,880 --> 01:08:11,519
like push yourself up. So think
about that. Yeah, a magnetic field.

1170
01:08:11,639 --> 01:08:15,480
Okay, yeah, so he's not
flying, he's more like I was

1171
01:08:15,519 --> 01:08:18,319
so confused. I'm like, okay, class and like self pulled, self

1172
01:08:18,359 --> 01:08:28,720
pull and put yourself like push.
He is a class for I forgot Kyle,

1173
01:08:28,720 --> 01:08:30,840
you got stuffed down. This battle
and great battle. I think the

1174
01:08:30,920 --> 01:08:35,359
Kitty and the Juggernaut like running was
like really good and I liked how it

1175
01:08:35,439 --> 01:08:38,920
ended when they got to like the
cure, dude, and then he's like,

1176
01:08:38,960 --> 01:08:41,279
just stay close to me. Yeah, he knocks himself out. I

1177
01:08:41,319 --> 01:08:44,960
love that. Yeah that's true because
you yeah, come and get me,

1178
01:08:45,159 --> 01:08:49,640
dickhead. All their dialogue dialogue dialogue
wasn't good, but I like like the

1179
01:08:49,640 --> 01:08:53,880
whole like running in and out,
And I thought this even when that kitty

1180
01:08:53,960 --> 01:08:56,840
kind of stops and she like goes
around the corner and like waits for him

1181
01:08:56,840 --> 01:08:58,720
to blow by, because I'm like, oh, yeah, like that would

1182
01:08:58,800 --> 01:09:01,319
completely happen as well too, Like
that was like smart, like thinking yeah,

1183
01:09:01,479 --> 01:09:04,720
or well he's head down, full
on sprint. Yeah, So I

1184
01:09:05,239 --> 01:09:08,760
like that all, even like the
well the kids, like he's not really

1185
01:09:08,800 --> 01:09:13,079
doing much. He's just a child, just chilling, wondering why everyone hates

1186
01:09:13,119 --> 01:09:15,279
something. Yeah, he's a mutant, right, yeah, mute powers.

1187
01:09:15,319 --> 01:09:19,720
He can take away mute power.
So he's like the better rogue. Yeah

1188
01:09:19,800 --> 01:09:24,920
no kidding, yeah, child,
she must be so that you know what,

1189
01:09:25,079 --> 01:09:30,000
be better brogue and her met brogan
him sorry, yeah, rogan him

1190
01:09:30,119 --> 01:09:31,439
Met. I was gonna, yeah, that would be a perfect that would

1191
01:09:31,439 --> 01:09:35,279
have been like a lot better of
like her, like like them like having

1192
01:09:35,399 --> 01:09:39,199
more of a conversation or something or
I don't know, I guess how you

1193
01:09:39,399 --> 01:09:42,199
mentioned someone else? You know,
she's she's just like, hey, do

1194
01:09:42,239 --> 01:09:45,720
you mind staying in this room for
like half an hour with a cloak over

1195
01:09:45,560 --> 01:09:48,680
handing some earphones so me and my
boyfriend can just like talk for a little

1196
01:09:48,720 --> 01:09:54,600
bit. Every night, this kid's
gonna pulled into their room watch this TV

1197
01:09:54,720 --> 01:09:58,279
show now. Yeah, oh boy, but that would have been a lot

1198
01:09:58,359 --> 01:10:00,720
better for like a I guess a
contrac asked, like to put that kid

1199
01:10:00,960 --> 01:10:05,479
like we don't even get like is
this kid upset that he's being like stuck

1200
01:10:05,520 --> 01:10:10,720
in this cage at all? But
like he's just we don't know anything.

1201
01:10:11,279 --> 01:10:15,239
No, we don't know anything except
for he's the cure that like this now,

1202
01:10:15,359 --> 01:10:18,800
like as we're getting way more into
it, like this movie, like

1203
01:10:20,159 --> 01:10:24,960
oh yeah, yes, it's because
it's all happening at once, you're kind

1204
01:10:24,960 --> 01:10:27,119
of like, okay, like you
said, there's so much whatever, don't

1205
01:10:27,119 --> 01:10:30,159
forget about Dark Phoenix is yeah too, Like she's still here. They old

1206
01:10:30,199 --> 01:10:33,039
it. They forgot like how old
p she is and she just like she

1207
01:10:33,079 --> 01:10:36,199
doesn't even care that you're mute and
she was gonna destroy you anyways, yep,

1208
01:10:36,520 --> 01:10:40,840
like why but like they don't give
why is Phoenix doing this? You

1209
01:10:40,840 --> 01:10:43,680
know, like I could understand,
like you know what, we need to

1210
01:10:43,800 --> 01:10:46,920
use the cure against Phoenix. Yeah, because she's like super Opie, So

1211
01:10:46,920 --> 01:10:50,520
this is what we gotta do.
And then that's why she's like popping off

1212
01:10:50,560 --> 01:10:55,279
and like killing everybody. But like
there's no reason for her to kill everyone

1213
01:10:55,479 --> 01:10:58,359
except for unless she's just pure evil. She said, well that's what she

1214
01:10:58,479 --> 01:11:00,640
is, and yeah, that's always
exciting. I'm not a fan of her

1215
01:11:00,680 --> 01:11:03,640
look either, when she goes Phoenix
mode and she just gets like dark face.

1216
01:11:03,840 --> 01:11:06,880
I don't I don't mind that.
I don't like her attire. I

1217
01:11:06,880 --> 01:11:11,279
think it's very cheesy, like this
like Cape or whatever whatnot. The one

1218
01:11:11,279 --> 01:11:14,560
thing I will give credit to the
battle is I like the the one the

1219
01:11:14,880 --> 01:11:18,000
kind of tribute to the earlier in
the movie when they do the Logan throws

1220
01:11:18,039 --> 01:11:23,319
Colossus and they do this to Magneto
and he catches them two things. One

1221
01:11:23,359 --> 01:11:26,359
I love he flips him on his
back. That's a big tribute to There's

1222
01:11:26,399 --> 01:11:30,199
one comic, a very famous one
where Magneto literally rips the Adamantean off Logan's

1223
01:11:30,239 --> 01:11:33,079
bones. Yeah, yeah, it's
very britt so they are kind of tributing

1224
01:11:33,079 --> 01:11:35,279
that, but I like that.
He's like you never learned, do you?

1225
01:11:35,359 --> 01:11:38,640
And then Beast comes and stabs him
and he's like I do, and

1226
01:11:38,680 --> 01:11:41,560
like I like that. I thought
that was a smart way to magneto.

1227
01:11:41,880 --> 01:11:43,920
And then he's just like I'm in
low, just like one of them,

1228
01:11:43,960 --> 01:11:45,920
and he's just like trembling because he's
just like, oh shit, like I've

1229
01:11:45,960 --> 01:11:49,560
lost everything. So I liked that, and then everything else was just a

1230
01:11:49,640 --> 01:11:54,239
blur, like it's just fighting.
Go ahead? Was the colossus? Does

1231
01:11:54,279 --> 01:11:57,680
he even do like a cool battle
move? Oh? He throws? Logan

1232
01:11:57,079 --> 01:12:00,239
throws And then they he repeats that
quote or whatever that Storm says in the

1233
01:12:00,279 --> 01:12:03,239
training room, just like we work
as the union or yeah yeah, well

1234
01:12:03,319 --> 01:12:08,279
yeah yeah, the best offense is
a good defense and they yeah, yeah,

1235
01:12:08,319 --> 01:12:13,760
so Storms. I feel like just
Storms should be flying just zapping everybody.

1236
01:12:13,920 --> 01:12:16,800
But nah, I ain't about that
life or at least like these mutants

1237
01:12:16,880 --> 01:12:20,560
like aren't like like killing the other
mute like the good guys. Let's say,

1238
01:12:20,600 --> 01:12:24,239
oh they're not good enough. They're
not killing other mutes like they're trying

1239
01:12:24,239 --> 01:12:28,079
to prove a point, like why
like oh, no, they're man the

1240
01:12:28,159 --> 01:12:30,039
acts. We are just bloodthirsty.
They'll kill anyone that gets in their ways.

1241
01:12:30,079 --> 01:12:32,800
It's crazy. I don't even And
then after that, Jean's kind of

1242
01:12:32,800 --> 01:12:35,760
looking like herself, and then all
the soldiers they ain't at her. They

1243
01:12:35,760 --> 01:12:39,439
shoot, she stops all the stuff, and they'll like no, and then

1244
01:12:39,640 --> 01:12:44,760
Jean just rips through everybody and everything
except for our main characters because they somehow

1245
01:12:44,800 --> 01:12:48,239
can escape this whatever. But yeah, and like human Magneto starts wandering off

1246
01:12:48,239 --> 01:12:55,640
on the British done actually kind of
go back to the before they stabbed him

1247
01:12:55,640 --> 01:12:59,159
with the cure. So I thought
at that point, when the three of

1248
01:12:59,159 --> 01:13:01,000
them were looking at it each other, they would like almost have like a

1249
01:13:01,039 --> 01:13:04,600
conversation. It's like is this right? Like it's funny because this happens in

1250
01:13:04,640 --> 01:13:11,880
flash like and then the DC the
TV show, the TV show where they

1251
01:13:11,920 --> 01:13:17,600
give shark not shark man, king
shark k shark man give me that.

1252
01:13:18,760 --> 01:13:23,119
They start having a debate like and
ethical debates like is it proper to give

1253
01:13:23,199 --> 01:13:28,479
someone this cure in this movie?
I know, but like you but there

1254
01:13:28,960 --> 01:13:30,680
they didn't even get them with one
needle. They gave him like a whole

1255
01:13:30,720 --> 01:13:35,159
like like you are more human than
any other human. I thought that at

1256
01:13:35,199 --> 01:13:38,399
that moment, they're all gonna have
like, wait, is this like should

1257
01:13:38,439 --> 01:13:42,199
we be like purposely giving someone the
cure to stop them from doing this?

1258
01:13:42,319 --> 01:13:45,840
Like this is what we're all against. It is like giving this cure,

1259
01:13:45,039 --> 01:13:48,399
and now we are going to give
this cure, even if there's one character

1260
01:13:48,439 --> 01:13:51,239
to be like, We're gonna do
it because we have to. Because it's

1261
01:13:51,279 --> 01:13:55,119
like even if they said let's not
do that, and if Magneto just can't

1262
01:13:55,119 --> 01:13:57,800
be reason if it's like, okay, we have to resort that. That's

1263
01:13:57,880 --> 01:14:00,800
I think if there is a movie
just about the cure, you would get

1264
01:14:00,800 --> 01:14:02,039
that, but not on this movie. They're just like we're taking to Erica

1265
01:14:02,359 --> 01:14:09,279
as quickly as possible. Yeah.
Sorry, yeah, so Gina's op Yeah,

1266
01:14:09,319 --> 01:14:12,319
and she just destroys everyone just thanos
is everybody. Yeah. Like the

1267
01:14:12,359 --> 01:14:15,760
guys that are like cops immunes,
they that's how I kill Spike Guy and

1268
01:14:15,800 --> 01:14:21,279
his friends. They're just running and
they just disintegrate verbs just like oh I

1269
01:14:21,319 --> 01:14:27,479
was at this party and I just
fanals you want, But like that's how

1270
01:14:27,520 --> 01:14:30,760
she did. Like they were like
disintegrating the same way. I will say,

1271
01:14:30,520 --> 01:14:33,600
great, scene when Logan's walking up
to her and just when she like

1272
01:14:33,760 --> 01:14:38,199
gives a burst and you see his
like metal skeleton. Yeah, that's so

1273
01:14:38,279 --> 01:14:41,760
well done. And again I think
his acting is so good. And she's

1274
01:14:41,840 --> 01:14:43,479
like you'll die for them. He's
like, no, not for them,

1275
01:14:43,520 --> 01:14:45,479
for you, and just his crying
and then when he kills her and just

1276
01:14:46,399 --> 01:14:49,880
that's again it's like thinks everything where
that's a great moment in another movie,

1277
01:14:49,880 --> 01:14:53,760
you would love that time all the
time, but because it's in this crappy

1278
01:14:53,800 --> 01:14:56,439
movie, I forget about. But
I think that scene has done really well

1279
01:14:56,439 --> 01:14:59,520
because he's finally that's how he's changed, is like he won't kill her,

1280
01:14:59,520 --> 01:15:01,199
he's just all about saving her.
But then he's realized she's just too dangerous.

1281
01:15:01,239 --> 01:15:03,880
I gotta put her down. And
it's a great scene between both even

1282
01:15:03,920 --> 01:15:08,039
like herself, like she knows she's
too dangerous and she asks him to kill

1283
01:15:08,079 --> 01:15:10,000
them and you know, and he's
like, I love you and then does

1284
01:15:10,000 --> 01:15:12,600
it and such and it's cool,
like you just see all the water falling

1285
01:15:12,640 --> 01:15:16,039
beside them, like great, great
scene somehow, and this really shitty battle.

1286
01:15:16,279 --> 01:15:20,439
Yeah, it was amazing. I
did you cry, Kyle? It

1287
01:15:20,520 --> 01:15:27,239
was pretty cool. I can tell. Yeah, after watching this, I

1288
01:15:27,279 --> 01:15:30,960
actually wasn't too familiar with like the
whole Dark Phoenix. Like Saga, Saga,

1289
01:15:30,079 --> 01:15:33,520
everyone watched the anime nineties series.
They do the best job of wrapping

1290
01:15:33,600 --> 01:15:35,880
up. It's like a three parter. It's really good. I watch DVD

1291
01:15:35,960 --> 01:15:40,000
if you're on board. I watched
just like a YouTube breakdown of like what

1292
01:15:40,119 --> 01:15:43,479
actually like in the comics, nothing
like this. She goes on her base

1293
01:15:43,560 --> 01:15:45,359
and it's like she like takes her
over a stone. She's the one that

1294
01:15:45,479 --> 01:15:50,640
like like uh buries the Phoenix within
herself with her own powers basically, so

1295
01:15:50,760 --> 01:15:54,960
she kind of like finds a way
too. Yeah, because there's because the

1296
01:15:55,000 --> 01:15:58,439
thing is, there's the Phoenix and
then there's the Dark Phoenixes. The Phoenix

1297
01:15:58,479 --> 01:16:00,319
helps the X Men in the comms. Originally like oh, Jeane's just super

1298
01:16:00,319 --> 01:16:03,239
open, has these cool powers.
That's great. But then slowly the Dark

1299
01:16:03,239 --> 01:16:06,119
Phoenix kind of like takes over.
It's like no, like we want to

1300
01:16:06,239 --> 01:16:11,319
get rid of everything, and she's
very violent and it's a very similar in

1301
01:16:11,359 --> 01:16:15,239
the comics. What Wolverine is is
really what Scott is. He's the one

1302
01:16:15,239 --> 01:16:17,039
that has to like do I kill
her? I love her? Things like

1303
01:16:17,039 --> 01:16:21,479
that, but they you know,
did a swap. You gotta have Logan

1304
01:16:21,560 --> 01:16:27,520
more. Oh yeah, Japanese star
you know. So yeah, I uh,

1305
01:16:27,760 --> 01:16:30,560
where was I going with the the
Oh yeah I had. I want

1306
01:16:30,600 --> 01:16:33,399
to ask, is so the relationship
between Gene and the Phoenix is that like

1307
01:16:33,399 --> 01:16:38,000
a schizophrenic thing where like she's totally
split personnel in this movie or in comics,

1308
01:16:38,359 --> 01:16:40,439
We'll just say, with this movie
in this way, I think it's

1309
01:16:40,439 --> 01:16:43,279
supposed to be. Yeh, it's
likek a split personality's trying to hold.

1310
01:16:43,520 --> 01:16:46,279
Even in comics they sometimes do that. It's I think in the comics it

1311
01:16:46,319 --> 01:16:49,159
happens less like that, but there's
times where like the Phoenix will break and

1312
01:16:49,239 --> 01:16:51,159
Gene will be like, oh,
what's happening? Or I don't know what's

1313
01:16:51,199 --> 01:16:56,439
going on? Because in this one
it felt like very schizophrenic, especially like

1314
01:16:56,439 --> 01:17:00,560
when she was like making out with
Logan on her escape, like she totally

1315
01:17:00,600 --> 01:17:02,319
dark Phoenix and then it totally blanks
and she's like, yeah, what's going

1316
01:17:02,359 --> 01:17:05,199
on? I didn't put it on
my trivia, but she did research schizophrenia

1317
01:17:05,239 --> 01:17:10,560
and so so yeah, answers my
question, I will say, just as

1318
01:17:10,640 --> 01:17:13,279
uh, because I forgot about I
do like in that scene when they are

1319
01:17:13,279 --> 01:17:15,199
making on the room where he's like, we can't do this and she goes

1320
01:17:15,279 --> 01:17:18,119
like no, and she just like
whips off her belt out with her mind.

1321
01:17:18,439 --> 01:17:26,359
I like that. That's just like
a fun going back to the the

1322
01:17:26,359 --> 01:17:29,039
the Killing of the Gene, Killing
of the Phoenix, The Killing of the

1323
01:17:29,039 --> 01:17:32,479
Phoenix, I really liked it,
like visually, especially like the detail that

1324
01:17:32,479 --> 01:17:34,560
you mentioned when like his skin would
blow off, but you can say his

1325
01:17:34,560 --> 01:17:39,159
metal sell It just looks so good. Hugh Jackman just phenomenal. He gets

1326
01:17:39,159 --> 01:17:41,880
bigger and bigger with each movie.
That's exactly what we were talking about before

1327
01:17:41,920 --> 01:17:45,680
in this cast. Even when we're
finishing up Origins, it's just Hugh Jackman,

1328
01:17:45,800 --> 01:17:48,840
like every movie just seems to be
getting better and better. Obviously finished

1329
01:17:48,840 --> 01:17:51,720
it. He already said he was
trying to like get bigger for the role

1330
01:17:51,760 --> 01:17:56,199
and whatnot. He said he didn't
perfect it to like the wolverine, you

1331
01:17:56,199 --> 01:17:58,479
know what, he wanted that size. I think he looked pretty good.

1332
01:17:58,640 --> 01:18:00,680
He does, he does, but
he one bigger, you know, fair

1333
01:18:00,800 --> 01:18:05,399
enough? Sorry, I said,
I have nothing else to this, Okay.

1334
01:18:05,399 --> 01:18:08,399
I wanted a quickly mention. We
didn't. I don't think we brought

1335
01:18:08,399 --> 01:18:11,359
it up. But the Bobby Pyro
fight, Yeah, yeah, I like

1336
01:18:11,439 --> 01:18:13,720
that when he went full Iceman and
I do like that. Yeah, I

1337
01:18:13,800 --> 01:18:17,159
loved it. What is the line
again when he's just like still in school,

1338
01:18:17,199 --> 01:18:20,319
Bobby and then you should have never
left? Yeah, that was good.

1339
01:18:20,359 --> 01:18:23,479
I got some trivia about that,
but I did like that. It

1340
01:18:23,520 --> 01:18:27,600
was and I remember sitting in the
theater as a kid seeing full on Iceman,

1341
01:18:27,720 --> 01:18:30,319
being like, oh, that's so
awesome because I didn't think they would

1342
01:18:30,359 --> 01:18:31,520
do it. And then we get
to see it a bit more in a

1343
01:18:31,600 --> 01:18:34,319
future movie, but obviously we didn't
get see much. But I guarantee you

1344
01:18:34,359 --> 01:18:38,399
and FIE's X Men, we're going
to see that ice guy all the time

1345
01:18:38,880 --> 01:18:41,479
like that. And I remember like
even the first time I saw this,

1346
01:18:41,520 --> 01:18:45,279
probably like when I was younger.
I think even before this movie, when

1347
01:18:45,359 --> 01:18:48,000
Pyro was starting to kind of go
with Magneto, I'm like, they gotta

1348
01:18:48,039 --> 01:18:51,840
have Bobby versus Piro. Oh oh, like like the just totally polar opposites,

1349
01:18:51,920 --> 01:18:54,159
right, So it's like, oh, I want to see that.

1350
01:18:54,159 --> 01:18:57,159
And then when this finally came to
that moment, Logan's like, oh,

1351
01:18:57,159 --> 01:19:00,439
can you take care of your old
buddy or whatever and make metos like too,

1352
01:19:00,439 --> 01:19:01,880
He's like, go ahead, like
they do a big setup for it.

1353
01:19:01,920 --> 01:19:04,279
I liked. I did like that
as like calling back to their ladyship.

1354
01:19:04,319 --> 01:19:08,520
I wish there was more of them
together because I wish they didn't like

1355
01:19:08,560 --> 01:19:13,840
each other from the beginning of this
movie or the Franchisel like friendship. No.

1356
01:19:13,960 --> 01:19:15,239
I like that. I like that
they were kind of friends with their

1357
01:19:15,279 --> 01:19:18,600
like Xavier and Magneto, where it's
like it went worse where they almost didn't

1358
01:19:18,640 --> 01:19:23,600
end up caring for one another,
or maybe I guess now I'm just thinking

1359
01:19:23,640 --> 01:19:27,319
a little bit too more than what
the franchise definitely went into is that they

1360
01:19:27,319 --> 01:19:30,319
were like really good friends, but
something between them like flipped a switch where

1361
01:19:30,319 --> 01:19:34,439
they or whatever, like a girl
who knows, and that that's the reason

1362
01:19:34,439 --> 01:19:38,800
why, like they don't get along
anymore, so they would be more meaningful

1363
01:19:39,119 --> 01:19:41,560
for them to fight otherwise it's like
hey, man, like what have you

1364
01:19:41,600 --> 01:19:45,239
been doing over there? Like see, I don't do business. I like

1365
01:19:45,760 --> 01:19:47,920
the idea that they were friends,
but it's just almost like old time civil

1366
01:19:47,960 --> 01:19:50,800
wars right where they just have different
ideologies. So it's like, well,

1367
01:19:50,880 --> 01:19:55,359
I got to fight you because I
agree, like this is my stance on

1368
01:19:55,399 --> 01:19:57,399
the issue, and then Bob's like, oh, this is my stance and

1369
01:19:57,439 --> 01:19:59,920
they have to fight, right,
And I think there's some competition there,

1370
01:20:00,079 --> 01:20:01,640
but I guess yeah, I just
wanted more. Yeah, since since we're

1371
01:20:01,640 --> 01:20:04,640
talking about those two, I actually
forgot about the earlier scene when he's looking

1372
01:20:04,640 --> 01:20:08,640
for Bobby's looking for rogue. Yeah, were you gonna mention that? No?

1373
01:20:08,439 --> 01:20:10,760
No, okay, no, you
can talk. Yeah. I just

1374
01:20:10,800 --> 01:20:13,079
wanted to say. It's like that's
like the first time that they actually like

1375
01:20:13,079 --> 01:20:15,600
see each other. Yeah, it's
the first attack they do because Pyro blows

1376
01:20:15,680 --> 01:20:18,880
up like cure factory and like not
even just that like the first time Bobby's

1377
01:20:18,880 --> 01:20:23,159
seen him since yeah, he fucked
off, which I wish there was more

1378
01:20:23,239 --> 01:20:25,920
conversation in America. It's just like, yeah, well I kind of know

1379
01:20:26,000 --> 01:20:29,560
you. Yeah, it's like he's
like looking for someone or your girlfriend or

1380
01:20:29,880 --> 01:20:31,640
I forget what he says specific it's
something about rogue. Well yeah, he

1381
01:20:31,680 --> 01:20:34,399
says something's like oh, yeah,
she always not a muty or whatever,

1382
01:20:34,439 --> 01:20:38,680
like he's just not a muting on
her and everything. But yeah, yeah

1383
01:20:38,720 --> 01:20:41,000
a couple of times. Yeah,
but then like you feel like you Bobby

1384
01:20:41,039 --> 01:20:43,520
would still be like why did you
leave us? Or why how's it going?

1385
01:20:43,680 --> 01:20:46,399
They needle, you know, like
there's not they just start I think,

1386
01:20:46,560 --> 01:20:48,880
well, there's something like Bobby was
like, I don't really have time

1387
01:20:48,920 --> 01:20:53,920
to like talk to you, Yeah, looking for rogue or something. And

1388
01:20:53,960 --> 01:20:58,840
then that's when just throws a fireball. Yep, good times, good times,

1389
01:20:58,880 --> 01:21:01,199
and then yeah, battles in.
Jean's dead. She gets a plot

1390
01:21:01,880 --> 01:21:05,680
right beside Xavier, and they also
gave Scott a gravestone as well, so

1391
01:21:05,680 --> 01:21:09,399
they're all beside, which is a
little awkward. I get why they put

1392
01:21:09,439 --> 01:21:11,119
she in there, but you know, I think there could have been a

1393
01:21:11,159 --> 01:21:13,119
vote, and I think enough people
have been like, you know, let's

1394
01:21:13,119 --> 01:21:15,079
not put her there. Let's you
know, let's put it in the other

1395
01:21:15,159 --> 01:21:19,119
side. She killed a lot of
people, no ship, yeah number Yeah,

1396
01:21:19,239 --> 01:21:21,319
I know it wasn't Jean, but
still it's like, yeah, that

1397
01:21:21,439 --> 01:21:26,000
sucks. But at that point,
what is it? The kid, the

1398
01:21:26,279 --> 01:21:29,760
cure kid, he's at the school, Warren's at the school. Beast has

1399
01:21:29,800 --> 01:21:31,720
made I think what was like a
senator or something like that. Yeah,

1400
01:21:32,079 --> 01:21:35,720
I forget the title. Matt,
Yeah something he got you got a raise

1401
01:21:35,760 --> 01:21:39,479
and he's like hopefully in that and
the way Logan goes way to go for

1402
01:21:39,479 --> 01:21:43,119
a ball like I like that low
one. Yeah. And then Rowe comes

1403
01:21:43,159 --> 01:21:46,039
back and she tells Boby that she
took the cure and you know, she

1404
01:21:46,119 --> 01:21:47,880
goes, I didn't want you to
do that, and I didn't do it

1405
01:21:47,920 --> 01:21:51,800
for you, did it for me? And come back to what the conversation

1406
01:21:51,880 --> 01:21:55,319
that she had with Logan. Yeah, and then we get I think a

1407
01:21:55,359 --> 01:21:58,880
great scene which is about again like
the portion of people that under like the

1408
01:21:58,920 --> 01:22:01,800
part times where they understand Magneto.
It's him Sinnett chess game, no one

1409
01:22:01,840 --> 01:22:04,840
there to play with him, very
sad, and it just you feel like

1410
01:22:04,880 --> 01:22:08,640
there is honestly, yeah, you
feel like there is just a wash over

1411
01:22:08,720 --> 01:22:12,039
of just like he really regrets how
this goes. And it does fit because

1412
01:22:12,159 --> 01:22:14,840
like when we eventually get there in
his future past their team, so it

1413
01:22:14,880 --> 01:22:17,199
almost does. Somehow they made it
work that he did regret this and he

1414
01:22:17,640 --> 01:22:20,359
went about the wrong way. But
then it's that and then you just get

1415
01:22:20,359 --> 01:22:25,600
that one little he tries, he
feels something tries and you see yeah,

1416
01:22:25,600 --> 01:22:28,079
and you see just a small little
notch of the piece and then cut the

1417
01:22:28,079 --> 01:22:30,239
credits. I remember the kid just
be like, oh, I literally got

1418
01:22:30,319 --> 01:22:32,119
chills when you brought that scene because
I totally forgot about the great scenes and

1419
01:22:32,119 --> 01:22:35,560
it's like you totally just picture like
him and Charles being there right and then

1420
01:22:35,600 --> 01:22:39,119
like I remember, because I obviously
haven't seen this movie a long time,

1421
01:22:39,119 --> 01:22:41,119
I'm like, oh, does Charles
like come back here and sit there or

1422
01:22:41,119 --> 01:22:43,520
something? Because in your back,
in their mind, it's like they can't

1423
01:22:43,560 --> 01:22:46,119
just get rid of Charles forever.
That was planned originally at one point when

1424
01:22:46,119 --> 01:22:49,319
he goes in that Comatos guy,
he was gonna sit down there and reveal

1425
01:22:49,359 --> 01:22:51,439
that he was Charles, But they
didn't go with that because I think they

1426
01:22:51,479 --> 01:22:56,359
said they couldn't get Patrick Stewart there
on set that day for some reing the

1427
01:22:56,359 --> 01:23:00,239
phone. Come on now, I
know, I know, Oh what do

1428
01:23:00,319 --> 01:23:02,439
we What would you rate this or
I guess we rate the movie after Trivia?

1429
01:23:02,560 --> 01:23:06,680
So anything to say more on the
movie. I just look at my

1430
01:23:06,680 --> 01:23:12,560
notes quickly at the beginning with mystique, I don't understand how she got caught

1431
01:23:12,880 --> 01:23:15,800
and captured. That is a good
question, mark, Yeah, we saw

1432
01:23:15,800 --> 01:23:18,680
it off screen. I guess she
just got caught and captured. Yeah,

1433
01:23:18,720 --> 01:23:24,199
Okay, I have no answer or
trivia for you. No, that's really

1434
01:23:24,239 --> 01:23:27,399
just it. That's why. That's
why. Yeah, it's something I forgot

1435
01:23:27,439 --> 01:23:31,960
to mention. Oh yeah, does
Magneo still need the helmet since Charles is

1436
01:23:32,000 --> 01:23:35,560
dead? For Gena? Yeah,
for Gene I guess okay, but not

1437
01:23:35,600 --> 01:23:39,800
anymore. Okay. I figured it
would be an easy answer, but I

1438
01:23:40,039 --> 01:23:42,479
had to ask it. Anyways.
It kind of completes the outfit though,

1439
01:23:42,520 --> 01:23:45,319
you know, so you kind of
just gotta stick with it. Here's some

1440
01:23:45,399 --> 01:23:49,319
trivia for you, Brian. I'm
not done. Oh sorry, sy very

1441
01:23:49,399 --> 01:23:55,159
minor. I know when they when
Magneia was pulling over the Golden Gate Bridge

1442
01:23:55,479 --> 01:24:00,319
and it's literally daytime, and then
for whatever reason, the bridge gets the

1443
01:24:00,359 --> 01:24:05,520
alcohol. It's dead ass night,
and I remember just thinking to myself,

1444
01:24:05,560 --> 01:24:08,479
I'm like, I gotta write this
down because I'm gonna forget, because that's

1445
01:24:08,479 --> 01:24:13,399
a bridge I had to comment on. Yeah, across, I liked it

1446
01:24:13,560 --> 01:24:16,760
on the bridge when they finally got
to Alcatraz and then the girl like looks

1447
01:24:16,760 --> 01:24:20,720
at Magneedle then like locks the door
and then make he just looks like,

1448
01:24:20,800 --> 01:24:26,720
oh you're a hilarious little human and
just walks away. Oh it's pretty funny.

1449
01:24:26,800 --> 01:24:30,000
Yeah, let's go ready for trivia. Thanks for being patient. Brian

1450
01:24:30,079 --> 01:24:32,479
Singer, who was in the middle
and he directed X one X two in

1451
01:24:32,560 --> 01:24:36,560
the middle of a three movie deal
made with Fox beginning with X two and

1452
01:24:38,119 --> 01:24:40,840
keen to make X three, but
he and Fox were unable to come to

1453
01:24:40,920 --> 01:24:44,159
terms. During this time, Warner
Brothers offered him a chance to direct Superman

1454
01:24:44,239 --> 01:24:46,920
Returns, which was a big mistake
for him, but immediately Singer informed Fox

1455
01:24:46,920 --> 01:24:49,359
and was going to take this opportunity. I would still like to return to

1456
01:24:49,399 --> 01:24:54,399
direct X three after that, but
as a consequence, his deal was terminated.

1457
01:24:54,800 --> 01:24:58,479
Matthew Vaughan, who directed X Men
First Class, was briefly brought on

1458
01:24:58,520 --> 01:25:01,439
a production before he backed out.
Brett Rattner the finalists for the director role

1459
01:25:01,439 --> 01:25:04,600
and X Men or was a finalist
for when the directors in the original X

1460
01:25:04,640 --> 01:25:10,760
Men had that experience of making a
successful movie with a rush production in rush

1461
01:25:10,760 --> 01:25:13,119
hour, so that's why they went
with him, because he had experience of

1462
01:25:13,159 --> 01:25:16,600
a movie being rush They get to
this guy and not a great idea.

1463
01:25:17,239 --> 01:25:21,840
Kelsey Grahammer was so keen to play
bas he agreed to do an audition.

1464
01:25:23,239 --> 01:25:27,000
This was the first time Grammar had
done edition for over twenty years. Wow,

1465
01:25:27,159 --> 01:25:29,920
wow, you very much wanted to
do that. I'm glad he did.

1466
01:25:30,039 --> 01:25:33,079
This is a meaty one. Brian
Singer was going to direct, and

1467
01:25:33,119 --> 01:25:38,520
he and his writers wrote a treatment
solely based on the Stark Phoenix saga.

1468
01:25:38,640 --> 01:25:41,560
This the deceased gen Gray return and
this was their kind of version of the

1469
01:25:41,600 --> 01:25:45,960
movie they were pitching. Gene Gray
returns a more distractive personality called the Phoenix.

1470
01:25:46,039 --> 01:25:49,880
She would be manipulated to join the
hell Fire Club by telepathic leader Amma

1471
01:25:49,880 --> 01:25:55,600
Frost. Singorony Weaver was intended for
the role. A three way battle occurs

1472
01:25:55,600 --> 01:25:58,079
between the Club, who want to
take over the world, the X Men,

1473
01:25:58,079 --> 01:26:00,520
who want to save their comrade,
and Magnito's brother who who want the

1474
01:26:00,520 --> 01:26:02,920
Phoenix for their own plans. At
the end to save everyone. Jeane kill

1475
01:26:02,960 --> 01:26:08,520
herself, but the spirit lives on
transcends into divine being. Uh yeah,

1476
01:26:08,560 --> 01:26:12,439
so, which Dorry compared to the
Star Child and two the other one space

1477
01:26:12,439 --> 01:26:16,279
ovissee and Keanu Reeves was also thought
to of He was at one point thought

1478
01:26:16,279 --> 01:26:19,319
to have played Gambit in this movie. And I'll bring up that again,

1479
01:26:19,359 --> 01:26:23,359
but yeah, so, I feel
like it did sound like there was still

1480
01:26:23,359 --> 01:26:26,680
a lot going on in that movie. But it did sound like at least

1481
01:26:26,680 --> 01:26:29,840
it was all centered around the dark
Phoenix, So it might have been a

1482
01:26:29,920 --> 01:26:32,079
bunch of different plots. Yeah,
it might have panned out a bit better.

1483
01:26:32,199 --> 01:26:38,399
Who knows though, because you know
it. Yeah, let's see.

1484
01:26:38,760 --> 01:26:41,800
Uh, well, this has a
little bit to do with that. Red

1485
01:26:41,800 --> 01:26:45,560
RecA remain mystique and James Marsin's cyclass
rules were reduced substantially when this movie was

1486
01:26:45,600 --> 01:26:49,880
rushed into production to two cast members
had prior scheduling conflicts, so that was

1487
01:26:49,880 --> 01:26:54,680
a reason. Uh, here's a
here's a fun one. Hi. Barry

1488
01:26:54,680 --> 01:26:58,439
had initially decided not to reprise her
roles Storm for this movie, citing lack

1489
01:26:58,479 --> 01:27:02,760
of character development in the previous installments
and a tense relationship with the former director.

1490
01:27:03,039 --> 01:27:08,000
However, after Singer's departure US and
suffering a major box office flop with

1491
01:27:08,079 --> 01:27:12,720
Catwoman, Barry agreed to return on
one condition that her role to be expanded.

1492
01:27:13,560 --> 01:27:16,880
Storm replaces Cyclops as an exavier as
a leader, which is came with

1493
01:27:16,880 --> 01:27:19,039
the comics. Blah bah blah,
because she was a leader at one point.

1494
01:27:19,079 --> 01:27:21,399
But still, I think that is
true that you could see an X

1495
01:27:21,439 --> 01:27:25,039
one x two, She's not in
it as much as this, and then

1496
01:27:25,079 --> 01:27:28,680
she is just like the second lead
with Wolverine, and I feel like it's

1497
01:27:28,680 --> 01:27:30,239
not natural other than it's Ali Baron. We know she's a big star.

1498
01:27:30,399 --> 01:27:33,479
But yeah, yeah, yeah,
well well it makes sense like from her

1499
01:27:33,520 --> 01:27:36,720
actress like point of view, like
why she would want the value of the

1500
01:27:36,760 --> 01:27:41,159
actress. Yeah. Yeah. This
is where I think there was different versions

1501
01:27:41,159 --> 01:27:45,439
of the script because it won.
Oh so that one version of Keanu Reeves

1502
01:27:45,439 --> 01:27:47,600
possibly playing Gambit that was in the
original directors in this movie, they did

1503
01:27:47,680 --> 01:27:51,399
talk about Gambut being in Gambit was
going to appear in this movie and would

1504
01:27:51,439 --> 01:27:56,159
have been a love interest of Rogue
and a rival for Iceman, similar how

1505
01:27:56,239 --> 01:28:00,159
Knny Pride was used for Rogue and
Iceman's affection. How Ever, Twentieth Fox

1506
01:28:00,239 --> 01:28:04,119
was developing X Men origins and stipulate
no other Mune could appear in both movies,

1507
01:28:04,119 --> 01:28:08,199
so Gambit was removed in the script. By that time, Channing Tatum

1508
01:28:08,319 --> 01:28:11,079
was running for the or was in
the running for the role before removed,

1509
01:28:11,079 --> 01:28:14,439
which is funny because Channing Tane was
cast's Gambit. But that movie is never

1510
01:28:14,479 --> 01:28:17,640
gonna happen now because Disney bought Fox, but that was a time to instead

1511
01:28:17,640 --> 01:28:19,680
of having Kiddy in that role,
it was gonna be Gambit, which I

1512
01:28:19,720 --> 01:28:26,399
actually think. I think it's tough
because in the comics, Gambit and Rogue

1513
01:28:26,439 --> 01:28:29,880
are the actual relationship. I think
it's tough because I don't know what they

1514
01:28:29,880 --> 01:28:31,640
would have played the angle there,
because Bobby's a pretty nice guy, so

1515
01:28:31,640 --> 01:28:33,800
I don't know what their angle had
been, so I could see how they

1516
01:28:33,800 --> 01:28:39,039
swapped it for like herb being more
jealous and whatnot. Yeah. Budget,

1517
01:28:39,039 --> 01:28:42,199
at two hundred and ten millions,
this was at one time the most expensive

1518
01:28:42,199 --> 01:28:45,840
movie ever made. Wow. Really
Yeah, there is a rumored ending where

1519
01:28:45,840 --> 01:28:50,760
Power returns to the school after being
presumed missing in the final cut, So

1520
01:28:50,960 --> 01:28:56,399
I apparently they maybe shot an ending
where he returns to the school because Bobby,

1521
01:28:56,680 --> 01:29:00,680
which again you can tell to me
the writers of this little take things

1522
01:29:00,760 --> 01:29:02,680
so literally you should never left,
and he literally goes back to school,

1523
01:29:02,880 --> 01:29:06,680
just script writing a round one.
But apparently that was an ending. Joss

1524
01:29:06,680 --> 01:29:10,920
Whedon was approached to a direct but
turned down the offer in favor of writing

1525
01:29:10,920 --> 01:29:14,439
and directing a Wonder Woman movie,
which never came through. Ironic as some

1526
01:29:14,560 --> 01:29:16,880
elements from the storyline were based off
his comic book Run and X Men The

1527
01:29:17,000 --> 01:29:21,000
Gifted, which he made. Uh, he wrote Astonishing x Men, and

1528
01:29:21,039 --> 01:29:25,680
he did write a storyline about a
cure and whatnot. So they kind of

1529
01:29:25,680 --> 01:29:28,560
offered him a movie about I don't
know if he knew that what the plan

1530
01:29:28,760 --> 01:29:30,119
was, but he could have directed
a movie about a storyline he wrote in

1531
01:29:30,119 --> 01:29:32,720
the comic books, but he went
to do Wonder Woman that never happened,

1532
01:29:32,760 --> 01:29:36,920
and then he did, uh,
what is it? Avengers? But he's

1533
01:29:36,960 --> 01:29:40,359
popped up a couple of times in
these trivias. They really want him to

1534
01:29:40,399 --> 01:29:42,760
direct an X Men movie. He
just never did it. You know,

1535
01:29:43,399 --> 01:29:45,920
good for him. That's all the
trivia I got. I don't have any.

1536
01:29:46,079 --> 01:29:50,239
I know you're looking at me.
I don't have any. I liked

1537
01:29:50,239 --> 01:29:55,319
it. It was nice and meaty. Rating is very tough for me.

1538
01:29:56,159 --> 01:30:00,000
I reading is very tough. I'll
go, yeah, you go. I'm

1539
01:30:00,079 --> 01:30:04,239
still the so I think at the
beginning I thought I really liked it,

1540
01:30:04,720 --> 01:30:09,239
and now it was more into it. I realized, a wow, there's

1541
01:30:09,239 --> 01:30:11,479
a lot of holes in here.
But I still like, quite enjoyed it.

1542
01:30:11,479 --> 01:30:14,600
I'm gonna give it a six.
I think it's the same level as

1543
01:30:14,680 --> 01:30:17,880
I gave X one. Really think
I'm surprised by that. You think X

1544
01:30:17,920 --> 01:30:24,920
one and this are on similar tier. Only I'm only saying that because,

1545
01:30:25,039 --> 01:30:30,039
yeah, there was a lot of
like you know, plot holes that like

1546
01:30:30,239 --> 01:30:32,279
a lot of questions, But I
still like enjoyed the movie overall. I

1547
01:30:32,279 --> 01:30:35,760
still like the action that was going
on, kind of the interactions between each

1548
01:30:35,840 --> 01:30:39,760
characters, and I guess I like
the ideas of like what they were like.

1549
01:30:39,840 --> 01:30:43,000
The stuff that was really good was
really really good, and I think

1550
01:30:43,039 --> 01:30:45,840
that for me, outweighs a lot
of the little bit of the small lows,

1551
01:30:46,359 --> 01:30:50,520
and so that's why even still like
it's still a six. But yeah,

1552
01:30:51,199 --> 01:30:54,560
fair enough. I'm just surprised.
But you know, if you enjoy

1553
01:30:54,760 --> 01:30:59,000
enjoyed it totally. Uh, Like, I gotta start writing down my radiance

1554
01:30:59,000 --> 01:31:01,600
for each of these because I keep
for anyone my last tour. I think

1555
01:31:01,640 --> 01:31:06,680
I'm gonna give this one a five
point five. It's it's not just passing,

1556
01:31:06,720 --> 01:31:11,760
but it's a little bit over that
line. I don't know. It's

1557
01:31:12,199 --> 01:31:15,039
like I remember being younger and like
enjoying this movie, but there were so

1558
01:31:15,079 --> 01:31:18,159
many things I missed, like I
didn't even understand most, like the whole

1559
01:31:18,199 --> 01:31:21,520
Dark Phoenix plot twists or not plot
twist, the whole plot around the Dark

1560
01:31:21,520 --> 01:31:26,600
Phoenix, Like I honestly thought it
was just like a cure Brotherhood X Men

1561
01:31:26,760 --> 01:31:29,560
battle, Like I did not really
understand. They still don't understand it.

1562
01:31:29,640 --> 01:31:35,520
Oh yeah, it's very convoluted and
messy. The scenes that we've all mentioned

1563
01:31:35,600 --> 01:31:40,319
of, like the Charles death scene
and the Gene death scene, Like they're

1564
01:31:41,159 --> 01:31:45,560
huge like bright spots in this movie, but there's only so much you can

1565
01:31:45,600 --> 01:31:48,159
do on Like this is such a
convoluted and mess of a movie. Whereas,

1566
01:31:48,399 --> 01:31:53,279
uh, those little shine spots don't
really like do it too much?

1567
01:31:53,479 --> 01:31:56,119
Justice, Like it definitely saves it. Like I think if you didn't have

1568
01:31:56,159 --> 01:31:59,119
those, it would have just been
a fail for me. Below that five

1569
01:32:00,279 --> 01:32:01,319
But yeah, overall, i'd say
five and a half. I don't think

1570
01:32:01,359 --> 01:32:08,720
I ever need to watch this movie
ever again. I'm glad I went back

1571
01:32:08,720 --> 01:32:12,640
to it because there's obviously a lot
of things I missed. But plus you

1572
01:32:12,680 --> 01:32:15,560
can see this, like I said, versus the Dark Phoenix we get in

1573
01:32:15,600 --> 01:32:18,840
a few yeah exactly, Like I'm
like, I'm glad I have my my

1574
01:32:18,840 --> 01:32:25,800
my more developed brain that's more adult
individual as opposed to my, my,

1575
01:32:25,800 --> 01:32:29,199
my little wee brain that I used
to have. Don't check your head,

1576
01:32:29,199 --> 01:32:32,640
cat, I didn't know the core
was gonna move. Calm down. I

1577
01:32:32,680 --> 01:32:38,119
mean I give this a four point
nine. Oh wow, I can't pass

1578
01:32:38,199 --> 01:32:41,239
it. I just can't pass it. I think it's almost there, but

1579
01:32:41,319 --> 01:32:44,079
I just that's I mean, it's
not an overly fail. It's not one

1580
01:32:44,119 --> 01:32:45,720
of the worst movies ever, and
there is some good stuff, but it's

1581
01:32:45,760 --> 01:32:49,479
not enough for me to pass.
I think it's just because we talked so

1582
01:32:49,600 --> 01:32:54,039
much about how much bad stuff there
wasn't there, and how much stuff that

1583
01:32:54,039 --> 01:32:56,960
didn't make sense. I think there's
some good I like to score in this

1584
01:32:57,000 --> 01:33:00,680
movie. There's some great performances just
by the two, and there's some great

1585
01:33:00,720 --> 01:33:04,399
scenes. But even then, like
I'm even talking myself down to like because

1586
01:33:04,399 --> 01:33:09,840
I'm trying to think, yeah,
I'm gonna go for actually, I'm trying

1587
01:33:09,840 --> 01:33:12,960
to think, like the actions not
really good. Like there's only a few

1588
01:33:13,039 --> 01:33:15,279
scenes I can go by and say, oh, this is good, this

1589
01:33:15,319 --> 01:33:18,399
is good. I know we got
something next coming that is quite a wild

1590
01:33:18,479 --> 01:33:23,079
ride. But I think this just
has so many problems, whether it's the

1591
01:33:23,159 --> 01:33:26,520
love try and gole, whether it's
dark fans, the cure, Like,

1592
01:33:26,600 --> 01:33:29,399
how do we start this podcast about, Like why is Angel in this movie?

1593
01:33:29,560 --> 01:33:31,560
I don't know. He's just bopping
around, he's flying around. So

1594
01:33:31,640 --> 01:33:34,319
yeah, I'm giving it a four. I'm giving it my first bail X

1595
01:33:34,399 --> 01:33:38,359
Men retro here because it's just it's
funny that you say that because or in

1596
01:33:38,479 --> 01:33:43,119
like hinting towards what's gonna come next. But like, if I hadn't seen

1597
01:33:43,159 --> 01:33:45,520
that something That's gonna be coming next, I think this probably would have been

1598
01:33:45,600 --> 01:33:51,680
lower. But watching the Something That's
Gonna come next, it definitely like it

1599
01:33:51,760 --> 01:33:56,159
wasn't Yeah exactly, it wasn't as
bad as it could. I think that's

1600
01:33:56,159 --> 01:33:59,960
why my score is pretty hid well. Lady Joe, if you want to

1601
01:34:00,159 --> 01:34:02,960
tune into that one, you should
because we are viewing X Men Origins Wolverine

1602
01:34:03,039 --> 01:34:06,760
next. That is going to be
a juicy one. There is a lot

1603
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to talk about there. Kyle,
thanks for the first time. He's never

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actually seen the movie. So yeah, it's funny that you said it,

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because I think or I thought that
this is the first time I'd seen the

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movie. But there's so many scenes
that I remembered, like I remember the

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scene up Yeah, yeah, what
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in having ex Caliber day. Oh
that's my god. There was no excuse

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for that. Saved next Caliver day. What was going on? I was

1629
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like, once you started doing the
I saw you like get a little light

1630
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bulb on your head and I'm like, what's on that Star Wars review?

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I noticed There's so many times that
commented on things like that happened, but

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you can't hear the like he's like, what was that? I know?

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And you're like, You're like,
Taylor, nobody can hear that. He's

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like, well, I've heard it's
the word. He is