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Well, good morning everyone, Happy
Monday. Welcome to the Mark ass here

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read here at a little different angle
today. We saw Trevor Harris take a

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hit at the end of the game
last night. I'm a little bit on

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the I R as well right now. Was filming a wedding on Saturday.

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I felt a pop in the back
of my right leg and that limp being

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got my leg elevated here, So
I appreciate everyone working through less an ideal

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here. I got my mother's compression
sock on and we're work working through it.

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Welcome. We have been doing these
every Monday through the XFL season with

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Andy Murray, pat Raffino here through
the USFL and now we have Jason Hussey

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joining today as well as special guest
Evan Wilsmore. Appreciate this kind of the

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the knee jerk reaction Monday morning.
What did we learn from the you know

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whatever league of choice over the weekend? Pat Raffino and I will be back

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tomorrow same time. Will we do
in the USFL recaps analysis and then obviously

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the ratings that should be coming out
for that as well. Bring in by

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co host for today, we have
Jason Hussey here. First off, Jason,

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how are you doing great? Raid, how are you? I'm good.

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We're working through and then we have
Evan willsmore here. Evan said,

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I got a lot to talk about
for the CFL as well, James checking

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in anytime we have you know,
raise your hand if your team is undefeated

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right now in the CFL. Action. Got a lot to talk about with

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Jason as well everything else. But
first off, Evan, how are you

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doing. I'm doing good, man, Excited to talk about some you know,

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CFL football start of the twenty one
week set in full, So yeah,

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lots to cover just in week one
already. Yeah, so we'll go.

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Jason was with me for our pregame
kickoff show with Naylor and far Hunt

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and everyone else. That's good if
you want to go back and checking that

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out. Chris checking it as well. Hey Hussey. First off, Jason,

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you know we're back CFL. I'll
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here, but why did you make
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obviously we'll go week by week or
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all, I love that CFL football
is back. I think most importantly that's

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the biggest thing. But I think
in terms of the games themselves a little

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bit sloppy, to be expected,
CFL short preseason, so I mean it

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didn't really surprise me. But I
thought the quarterback play wasn't very great this

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weekend, but again to be expected. Evan, what about you, We're

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back, We've lived through XFL and
USFL here, why did you make it

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back to the Canadian game? Yeah? I thought it was okay. You

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know, like Jason said, it's
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a bit of rust. Outside of
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a ton of scoring, and yeah, the quarterback play was kind of iffy.

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You know, we'll get into more
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them just a general quarterback situation in
Canada right now. But overall, you

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know, I thought it was good. I liked that there was at least

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a lot of close games, you
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except maybe the Winnipeg game. They
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soft Hamilton there in the first half. But yeah, other than that,

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you know, a decent way I
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was good. It was exciting.
I watched three The Saskatchew one was tough,

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I will say, you know,
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thought, and Jason I talked to
about this on the pregame. I thought,

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the CBS Sports Network, where it's
great able to go on I could

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do it, go on Fubo,
kind of pre record all of those.

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But the CFL Plus ones, I
wish there was a way they could get

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the games back on afterwards. Like
I understand maybe we can't do you know,

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like live rewinding or anything on the
TSM broadcast, but if we could

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embed those somewhere after that would be
phenomenal because, like I was able to

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go back and watch the Ottawa game
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that as much with a Saskatchewan one. I just because of kind of the

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broadcast windows around. Evan, did
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games? I know there were some
issues as well with like the box scores

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updating on the website over the weekend. Yeah, the scores were definitely a

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bit of a problem on the CFL
website. It seems that they've got that,

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you know, figured out now that
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viewership wise, you know, the
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you know, I kind of had
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and then CBS Sports Network, which
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a kind of a weird system.
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season I would just be able to
use ESPM plus, like that's what I

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subscribe to ESPN plus four. But
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in place and it's not moved over
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a bit weird. But again,
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things. I'm sure I'll get used
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you know, figuring out which game
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on CBS. So it was all
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with the quality of it. Wait, what did you make, Kussie?

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Kind of having everything back? I
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Rod Smith and the with those.
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the familiar voices of all that.
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mean, besides the TSN panel,
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think the play by play guys do
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problems from my end up here in
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out there. I don't understand they
hate the panel gets obviously, I've been

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trying now. I've been trying to
get canned on the podcast for three years.

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I've had Milton, I've had David
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on, I've had you Naylor obviously. Evan, what do you make of

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the roundtable? Because I do get
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like it. Yeah, I mean, you know, I don't get to

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see as much of it, right
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true. Yeah, yeah, they
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they don't show you anything. So
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Network, you can't really see much
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like when of the games used to
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plus whatever. I thought they were
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it wasn't to me. It's just
more exciting that like those guys like you

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know, some of them, like
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in the CFL and that they can
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later, especially you know, with
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state of the CFL game might not
be at its peak right now. So

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you know, I don't think their
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mean sometimes the product isn't is great, But overall, you know, I

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think they're doing a good job.
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not be the best group of people, but at least they have some experience

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and they know what they're talking about, because again, you know, to

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people, especially who are watching in
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product. Yeah, we have a
question here, we'll break up how to

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watch. I will say, yeah, tuning into the CFL. Plus,

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they just had that slate at the
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the ad breaks. And I did
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great and I'm not trying to sell
promote, but you know, get Marshall

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Fergus in there, someone in there, like do a little YouTube thing leading

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into it. I just think that
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and we okay, we're TSNs pay
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trust in there, get a Marshall, get someone like, Hey, I'm

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sitting here with my webcam, welcome
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up. Like, I think that's
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to be able to show the pregame
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to do that. Yeah, Jersey
King says, love it. We're getting

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a lot of our American people trying
to watch the games. It's basically fifty

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fifty because half the ones this weekend
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them were on the streaming if it's
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to that madness? I just kind
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it was on Fubo. Otherwise I
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Evan. Did you make any heads
or tails of how to figure out which

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ones were which? Yeah, you
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website and I wasn't able to find
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a little brochure or a PDF or
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you know, where each game was, whether it was CFL Plus or you

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know, CBS Sports Network and then
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You know that's not a problem,
but for us, Yeah, I mean

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I referenced out a bit. But
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situation. Do you read it was
more like you just if it's not on

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my TV guide on CBS Sports Network, I knew I'm going to have to

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stream it off my laptop on the
CFL website with CFL Plus. Yeah,

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Crossopon says Riders one though, that's
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the games here, exciting stuff.
How did we get this back? Up?

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There? We go? So,
first off, we did our big

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pre game. We'll start at the
beginning BC Lions here, obviously my game

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of the weekend. We can get
anyone's thoughts on that vernon looking and saying

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on there, I'll pull in here. But Jason, overall thoughts, was

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this your top game and what did
you kind of initial thoughts? Well,

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I think that this game was kind
of surprising to me. I thought it

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was going to be a lot closer. I thought it was going to be

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a little bit higher scoring. I
thought that Calgary kind of struggled really all

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the way up until like midway through
the fourth quarter, and then they started

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starting to turn it on a little
bit. They got a couple of drives

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together, but overall, just a
very disappointing performance from them. Jake Mayer,

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it's starting to stay out to me
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BC dating back to last season.
And I think that's interesting because you look

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at how he's played against Winnipeg and
the starts he's had against them, and

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it's a drastic difference. Winnipeg he's
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BC defense is no joke. I've
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on my channel that they have a
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CFL this year, and they showed
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and I get into this kind of
the knee jerk and you the CFL

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season SA marathon that its great.
But Vernon Adams really looked like the greatest

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quarterback in the league. It was. He was like a for eight going

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down and I think it was nine
with the conversion on that. Evan,

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I know, you know we're big
fans of VA everything in our group and

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everything else. What did you make
of Vernon's performance? Yeah, I thought

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it was great, you know,
outside of the turnover I thought that was,

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you know, probably the best game
he could have had. You know,

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like Jason said, you know,
maybe you hope for a bit more

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scoring, especially on the Calgary end, but like Vernon came in and you

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know, he exceeded my expectation for
a week one game, especially because this

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is a pretty new environment for him. You know, he's got big shoes

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to fill. And I put that
on on Twitter. I said, you

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know, Lions fans were blessed last
season with the presence of Nathan Rourke up

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until his injury. You know,
you bring in Verton Adams, who had

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a pretty good career there in Montreal, but it's a different environment for him,

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so you know, to see him
flourishing again. He had some pretty

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good weapons, like Dominic Rimes picked
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season, you know, being one
of the top receivers in the CFL.

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You know, but yeah, I
was very impressed with Vernon. Is the

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bottom line and if he continues,
you know, at that general pace,

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you know, I'm sure he'll have
a couple of games where you know,

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things might drop off or whatever,
but this is a really good start and

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he should definitely be happy about that. I think Vernon's the kind of guy

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that like lives and dies just like
in every moment, right, And I

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think you know, he kind of
you ride that emotion with him. I

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saw him after the game. You
know, he's looking up, he's thanking

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God, breathing on the sidelines.
You can just read that emotion and yeah,

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if he's playing good and he's feeling
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he's going to be king of the
world. But but if it's the other

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way, you know, if they
start getting too much pressure whatever, Like

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he does seem like someone that kind
of gets faltered that way. It's crazy

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though here with the receivers, you
know, Lucky White kind of in and

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out wasn't even really a part of
it. It just seemed he has so

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many different tools there. This Dee
Justin McGinnis, I said, when he

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got kind of the game ceiling a
reception there on the side of something,

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that's my guy, Like, I
want to buy his jerse. He had

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that he was a good pickup.
What did you make adjacent of just kind

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of the tools Burnon Head. I
think it's a great receiving core that the

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Lions have, and I think especially
you saw that connection with dominic rhymes.

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Rhymes I rated a little bit too
low. I actually already regret where I

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placed him on I did a top
fifty players campdown over on my channel.

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I had him at like twenty eighth, I believe, and honestly, if

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I have to do it over again
already, I probably would have had him

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in the top twenty. He had
an excellent season last year. I just

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didn't think he was gonna follow it
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already producing two touchdowns, having a
great connection with Burnon Adams and then the

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other guys they think they have a
lot of height in this receiving corps.

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He looked like a guy like McGinnis
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former first round pick in Saskatchewan,
so it's good to see him producing.

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A little bit. Whitehead, like
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him, so you don't expect that
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going to have some bigger games.
So things look good for the BC Lions

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receiving corps. Well, even Keian
Hatcher was he is he injured? What's

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his deal right now, because obviously
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on the sixth game injured list,
I believe. Yeah, so, I

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mean, but here that was what
was insane to me, Like Lucky White

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had i mean three receptions here,
even the guys that you would think that

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he would go to any Dominic Rhymes
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of the elite guys on that.
But he didn't even have kind of his

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full slate or was even working with
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exactly, Sorry, Evan, Evan, any thoughts, any thoughts on kind

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of you know, Keyan metching Keion
missing, Lucky obviously out, but Silverdin

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kind of finding everything. I mean
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long time, you know, BC
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was the guy that they could always
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replace that, right Obviously, Dominic
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I think he had fourteen hundred yards, was second in the CFA,

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fell behind Bolton shown and Winnipeg.
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mean I think it just it speaks
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presence and it's not about you know, it's not always about the guy that

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the top guy like you can have, you know, like that receiving cores

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very deep and you can see,
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able to catch passes. So I
think that was just Vernon's ability to you

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know, find players and spread out
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for them. Clearly, I think
it was. Naylor tweeted that, like,

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I haven't seen the BC quarterback half. It's a great of a week

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one since well Nathan worked last year. I mean obviously, I you know,

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high expectations, but I just I
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a lot of pressure on Vernon.
Like I said, I love him as

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a man, I know, want
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in this a quarterback as he is
as a human being. I'm glad he

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saw that. In terms of Calgary, you know, I thought it was

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interesting. I think it was going
into half the sidelined interview and you know,

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far Han was I thought Jake was
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where far Han's like, yeah,
what do you make Jake's like,

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I don't, like we needed to
do better? Like I thought he was

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almost kind of rude that way.
It's surprised that Jake, here's someone that

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you know, really stepped up with
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of that. Jesson, what did
you make of Jake Mayor's kind of struggles

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here through the game twenty to thirty
six. Well, I alluded to a

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few minutes ago that he is looking
to really struggle in these matches against BC,

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looking back to the playoff game last
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during the regular season last year he
struggled against BC. So this is becoming

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a trend for him. But I'm
not going to be too worried about Mayor

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until he struggles next week at Ottawa. I think that's a perfect bounce back

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opportunity for him. But at the
end of the day, what I saw

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from him in this game is that
he's pretty hesitant out there. You just

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kind of hesitated to make some throws, and I really saw that as the

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strength of his game. Guy that
can get the ball out quick, not

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going to be a guy that pushes
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but he's a guy that can make
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And that's something that we just simply
didn't see in week one. Evan,

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are you worried if you're a Calgary
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Where is this two seed to tell? Yeah, you know, I

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think it's too soon to tell.
You know, people who know me,

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or at least that are in my
circle, will know that I'm a big

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Jake Mayor fan. You know,
I've been following him since he was a

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rookie in Calgary, and you know, I always kind of knew that he

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was going to take the throne to
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takeover. Yeah, you know,
it was a bit of a slow day

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for him again week one. You
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who he is as a quarterback?
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so I would hope that over the
course of the season that we do

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see a lot of development. I
know last night one of the broadcasters mentioned

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that, but when they were talking
about Taylor Cornelius and Edmonton, it was

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the same thing. You know,
Chris Jones is hoping to get more out

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of him in year three, and
it's kind of those first two years,

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especially at the quarterback position in the
CFL, where you have some things to

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iron out. It takes a while
to develop. But we'll get to Edmonton

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later. I mean just talking about
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I still think he's gonna have,
you know, some moments like this season

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where you know, like what we
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some slower games, but like Jason
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next week, that's a perfect bounce
back opportunity. You know, that's the

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time where you can go out and
maybe have a three hundred yard, two

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touchdown, no turnover type of game. And if he does that, then

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that's great. Then there's no need
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And even if he doesn't do as
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to be worried. It's only if
he replicates that kind of thing that we

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saw in BC, where yeah,
if I was a Calgary fan, I'd

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be like, Okay, you know, maybe he's a bit further behind than

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we would like at this point in
his career. Chris checking in here says

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loved the Stamps Mayor tough loss.
We have friend of the show Tim Kapper

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over with a bunch of other Let's
Fight Tyck podcast and BA has in the

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other season like twenty nineteen, BC
is going to be tough to be I

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don't know. I mean it felt
like I don't let people down to BC

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going into last year. We had
anything kind of all of that here Vernon

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coming up. I just like I
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know, eighteen games or whatever.
That's where I worry a little bit about

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that. Jason, any other thoughts
on BC or Calgary, We'll move on

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to your tie cats. Anything else
from the first game, Well, one

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guy I wanted to shout out is
a few bets defensive end for the BC

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Lions. He's a guy that I
kind of wrote off. He was a

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first round pick I believe it was
second overall by the Edmonton Elks a few

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years ago. Believe it was twenty
nineteen, and then in twenty twenty one,

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the year after they canceled twenty twenty
season, he comes in. It

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didn't really do much. Gabe got
a lot of starts at the defensive ends

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position for Edmonton, then moved on
to BC, got a big contract from

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them before really producing anything. Has
a really good year last year and had

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an excellent game in Week one.
So I think he's a guy that's really

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living up to his potential. Where
Evan anything else will move on, No,

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I don't think so okay, Well, here we guys, So this

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was to me my game kind of
to watch keep an eye on here,

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I tweeted out, going in,
I watched part of the game, and

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then I had to take my wife
out to dinner and I kind of watched

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the rest. Driving home, I
tweeted out, is this the Bell Leave

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Mitchell experiment over? And I had
auto corrected it to Bill, So I

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had is the Bill Leave Mitchell era
over? And I had a lot of

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people saying, like, well,
he certainly is playing like Bill Leave right

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now. Jason, this was your
guy kind of watching coming in here.

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What did you make of your tie
casts losing here to Winnipeg thirty one to

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forty two? Well interesting, interestingly
enough, I was gonna say, like

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when we were talking to the livestream, I said, when I was looking

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for were the passes for bowleviy or
were they going to come up short or

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they know? Is it going to
be a lack of arm strength from him?

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And honestly I did not see that. It wasn't a physical problem from

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him. It was mostly him overthrowing
passes in this one missed a ton of

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deep open receivers in this game.
So I think if he can improve that,

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take a little bit of heat off
those passes, get more chemistry with

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receivers, I think he could play
significantly better going forward. I didn't see

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anything from a physical standpoint that could
limit him going forward. So he looks

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healthy. He just needs to play
with more consistency, more accuracy, and

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we'll see if he can do that
going forward. But honestly, I don't

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have that many concerns given how poorly
he looked in the first half against Winnipeg.

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Evan thought that Bolivi, Yeah,
you know, it's an interesting conundrum,

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you know, bo Levi, I
think has definitely been on a bit

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of a downward turn in the past
couple of years, and you know,

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whether that's age or situation, and
it's kind of hard to tell, right

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you know, I was hoping,
you know, maybe he'd have more of

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like a bounce back in week one
here Again, Winnipeg is an incredibly different,

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difficult opponent excuse me to be going
up against to start your season.

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But even then, you know,
I was watching him and I just didn't

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really you know, again, it's
week one. You know, let's not

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overreact these are all knee jerk reactions, like we keep saying, But you

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know, I'm a bit worried,
I think because you know, it's a

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big period of change for Hamilton.
You know, they're definitely going through a

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bit of a rebuild. You know, Jeremiah Assuli is gone, Dane Evans

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is gone. You know, Bolivi
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you've got you know, my guy
Matt Schiltz behind Mitchell, who you

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know, I think could you know, still be a decent starter in the

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CFL. But you know, it's
a lot more. Hamilton kind of went

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from having you know, two of
what we're you know, once viewed as

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like the top quarterbacks in the CFL
really because even when Dane Evans wasn't starting,

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you know, he was viewed as
a very good passer. But now

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you have you know, an older
Bolevi, Mitchell and then a career backup

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in Matt Schiltz. Is just kind
of like, you know, this is

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one of those more interesting situations in
my opinion, to see, you know,

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how that kind of plays out throughout
the season and if Bolivia really can

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bounce back or if he really is
sort of in that period of his career

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where it's just going to be more
gradual decline. And that's nothing against Bolivia.

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mean, he's played in the CFL

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for I mean longer than I can
remember. Because I'm a I'm a young

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guy, you know, and I've
watched him for many, many years.

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But you know, it just you
kind of have to ask yourself, you

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know. I mean, he gets
a fresh start here, and you know,

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I think it's going to take a
couple of weeks before I can really

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again get a solid opinion on that. But right now I'm not sold on

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BLM. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, it's one of those

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things. This week one, it's
a new offense on that. Butler looks

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really good. Hey, you that
was obviously kind of the big lot coming

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from BC over there. Jess,
what did you make of Butler, Tim

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White looking good? Kind of the
rest of you know, everyone they kind

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of under believe. Well, I
think they were mostly getting open and bo

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was just missing them a lot of
the time and mentioned a couple of those

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deep passes. Butler did cough up
a key fumble in this one, so

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that's something you don't like to see. But I think Butler overall looked to

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be very good and could give something
to this running game that they haven't had

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for a few seasons. Hambleton not
known traditionally as a team that runs the

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ball lot, so it's good to
see them commit to the running game a

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little bit more in this game.
So we'll see what Butler does going forward.

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But I think that they have enough
they're on the offense that I have

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confidence in them going forward. But
we just need to see it and see

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see them gel more together. I
did see. I got an email.

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I think like great Cup pre sale
was going on today. I think they

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were already dealing, which I feel
so early to me, but they wanted

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like tie Cats fans here buying right
now, get into the Gray Cup kind

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of before before, kind of crafts
the bed here Evan, what did you

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make you know? Winnipeg looking good? Claros is always, you know,

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Brady OLIVERA, it's so good,
you know, you know obviously you had

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the Edre Harris now that for years
and now Brady there everything else. What

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did you make of Winnipeg? Fantastic? That's the one word I'll say to

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describe Winnipeg. I mean, they
have been sort of, you know,

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the top of the top at the
CFL now for a couple of years,

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and it doesn't look like it's gonna
stop. I mean, you know,

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Colaros had probably one of the best
first halfs I've ever seen by a quarterback,

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at least during my time watching the
CFL, and that was in Week

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one. You know, he had
one hundred and eighty nine yards just in

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the first quarter and he had damn
near three hundred by the time you know

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it was halftime. So yeah,
it was extremely impressive. And then you

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know, you look at the supporting
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you know, even Rashid Bailey got
in there a bit. You know,

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Winnipeg hasn't lost a step clearly.
You know, they are still I think

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setting a standard in the CFL,
and that's good to see. Might be

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annoying for some, especially someone like
Jason if you support Hamilton and you know

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how many times Winnipeg has hurt you
in the past, but at the end

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of the day, you know they
are playing, you know, some of

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the best football that you can ask
for, and that's really good just for

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the league as a whole. Jason
thoughts on Winnipeg. Here's just continuing to

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look just you know, in the
league of their own. Well, this

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is just an all time team at
the top of their game, just not

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much really more. You can say
Zach Claries is clearly the number one quarterback

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in the CFL. All due respect
to how Burnond Adams played in Week one,

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but Zach is clearly still the top
dog. They have just such a

410
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compliment of receivers. Kenny Lawler didn't
even play in this game. He's dealing

411
00:23:40.160 --> 00:23:45.079
with some kind of passport kind of
problem, but he's expected back later in

412
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the season, so that's going to
add another element to that offense. I

413
00:23:48.400 --> 00:23:52.839
mean, I think all their Canadian
guys played very well on offense. And

414
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then on the defensive side, Willie
Jefferson is just one of the most freak

415
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like defenders I've ever seen play in
the CF valleys. These long alligator arms

416
00:24:02.480 --> 00:24:06.759
Um and just uh well maybe not
alligator arms, They're not exactly the longest

417
00:24:06.799 --> 00:24:10.000
dons, but he has these long, freak light arms, can knock down

418
00:24:10.000 --> 00:24:12.880
passes at a rate that I've never
seen. Um just such a dynamic player,

419
00:24:12.920 --> 00:24:17.440
and they just have so many playmakers
throughout this roster. They played so

420
00:24:17.480 --> 00:24:21.000
many big games together. Um,
just so much trust in that team going

421
00:24:21.079 --> 00:24:23.279
forward. In turn, you know, if I'm a BC light, i

422
00:24:23.319 --> 00:24:26.640
am a BC lion. San Evan
is, well, how are we feeling

423
00:24:26.640 --> 00:24:27.720
with the West here? Is it's
still going to be owned by Winnie Bake

424
00:24:27.799 --> 00:24:33.400
here? Jason? Yeah, I
think so. Yeah. I think,

425
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um, you know, maybe we
see BC Calgary round in to form throughout

426
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the season. But I think if
Winnipeg gets that first place in the West,

427
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gets the West Final in their home
building again, I think that no

428
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one's really going to stop them on
their way to the Great Cup. This

429
00:24:48.119 --> 00:24:52.319
year, Chris Heresy were talking about
Clara's getting They were covering them here,

430
00:24:52.400 --> 00:24:55.039
talking about Clarens getting snatched up by
the NFL, Like why is that?

431
00:24:55.160 --> 00:24:57.039
Like why did work at all the
accolades here? We're like, immediately go

432
00:24:57.079 --> 00:25:00.680
and work to the NFL? Like
what about Clarens here? Claris has been

433
00:25:00.759 --> 00:25:04.680
lighted up for years? Any thoughts, Jason, I think it's mostly just

434
00:25:04.759 --> 00:25:08.920
due to an age thing. I
think that you Rourke was pretty damn young.

435
00:25:08.960 --> 00:25:11.960
I think he didn't really have too
many stops in the NFL. Like

436
00:25:12.000 --> 00:25:15.160
I think he was just in one
rookie minicamp before he came to the CFL,

437
00:25:15.359 --> 00:25:18.480
so I think he's like twenty three, twenty four years old, so

438
00:25:18.720 --> 00:25:22.720
he's still a guy that the NFL
covets. Whereas you know, we've seen

439
00:25:22.799 --> 00:25:27.599
year and year out in the CFO
historically, the older quarterbacks don't really get

440
00:25:27.640 --> 00:25:32.680
that chance. You know, Anthony
Calbio, Henry Burris, those guys that

441
00:25:32.759 --> 00:25:36.640
were great later later in their career
in the CFL, they just didn't get

442
00:25:36.640 --> 00:25:41.119
a chance because the NFL doesn't view
them as having that potential to grow.

443
00:25:41.480 --> 00:25:45.960
In terms of anything else from this, Evan Jason, there we Jason,

444
00:25:45.279 --> 00:25:48.079
as a Tie Cats fan, how
do you feel coming out of this performance?

445
00:25:48.119 --> 00:25:51.960
Because obviously we can be analytical about
it, but how do you feel

446
00:25:51.960 --> 00:25:56.200
as a fan? Well? I
expected it because I'll give you guys a

447
00:25:56.200 --> 00:26:00.799
stat The Tiger Cats are two and
fifteen in their last seventeen Week one game,

448
00:26:00.920 --> 00:26:03.079
So I mean, I just expect
the Week one loss at this point,

449
00:26:03.839 --> 00:26:08.000
especially given a really tough matchup,
So I'm not too concerned. I'll

450
00:26:08.000 --> 00:26:11.559
be very concerned if next week when
I go to Toronto to go see them

451
00:26:11.559 --> 00:26:15.440
play, if they lay a similar
performance. But as of right now I'm

452
00:26:15.440 --> 00:26:19.319
not too concerned given the opponent and
that it's Week one, and then anything

453
00:26:19.359 --> 00:26:22.799
else from Winnipeg Hamilton. I mean, you know, just going back to

454
00:26:22.839 --> 00:26:26.599
that Zach Colaros thing for a minute, you know why he wouldn't be in

455
00:26:26.599 --> 00:26:27.920
the NFL. I mean at this
point, I mean, yeah, certainly,

456
00:26:27.960 --> 00:26:30.880
like Jason said, age is the
number one reason. I mean,

457
00:26:30.960 --> 00:26:33.839
Rourke is in a completely different position
in his career. You know, it

458
00:26:33.880 --> 00:26:37.480
was only in the CFL for two
seasons. But you know, you look

459
00:26:37.480 --> 00:26:41.279
at a guy at Claros, I
mean, if I'm in his position,

460
00:26:41.319 --> 00:26:42.400
it's like, why would you leave? You know, because you're not going

461
00:26:42.440 --> 00:26:45.640
to go and start in the NFL. I mean, yeah, you're very

462
00:26:45.680 --> 00:26:48.039
good, but at this point,
you know, you can stay in Canada.

463
00:26:48.079 --> 00:26:51.559
You're making you know, good enough
money, you're playing well, you're

464
00:26:51.599 --> 00:26:53.680
competing for a great Cup every year. They're still going to do it again

465
00:26:53.960 --> 00:26:56.240
this year, which is like the
fourth year in a row, which is

466
00:26:56.319 --> 00:27:00.359
ridiculous, or at least that's what
it looks like. I don't think anyone

467
00:27:00.400 --> 00:27:02.799
would really argue with that. So
yeah, I mean, you know,

468
00:27:02.880 --> 00:27:04.559
for Colaros, at this point,
I think it's just you know, wrote

469
00:27:04.559 --> 00:27:07.799
it out in Canada and you know, have a great a great time.

470
00:27:07.920 --> 00:27:11.279
And there's been many quarterbacks yeah like
that in the past, you know,

471
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Henry Burrows, Anthony Calvio, everyone. Jason said, you know, those

472
00:27:14.599 --> 00:27:17.400
guys just kind of wrote it out
in Canada, and I think they ended

473
00:27:17.480 --> 00:27:19.759
up being a lot more successful there
than they would have been just hanging around

474
00:27:19.799 --> 00:27:23.680
in a couple of NFL camps.
Jay Thompson says, I feel like we're

475
00:27:23.680 --> 00:27:26.480
in You're in the golden age with
all the leagues. I'm very exciting.

476
00:27:26.519 --> 00:27:30.519
You know, we're rolling through here, We're rolling through XFL, USL all

477
00:27:30.559 --> 00:27:33.960
that Chris here, he's a show's
fan number one on that so and that

478
00:27:34.039 --> 00:27:38.400
we had was it the Jersey King
guy. He's excited about the CFL.

479
00:27:38.440 --> 00:27:42.000
We're getting a lot of our all
football guys here learning about the CFL company

480
00:27:42.039 --> 00:27:47.000
there. So exciting there going through. I was excited to watch this game.

481
00:27:47.039 --> 00:27:49.559
I did watch this game in full
yesterday kind of on demand on Fubo.

482
00:27:49.960 --> 00:27:55.720
I read Black Years Auletts. This
was a really weird game, Jason.

483
00:27:55.839 --> 00:27:59.680
Let it let you make of just
the thesis of this game from the

484
00:27:59.680 --> 00:28:04.000
beginning. I just think it was
sloppy overall from both teams. Honestly,

485
00:28:04.079 --> 00:28:08.880
I think that Cody Fajardo played well
enough in his Montreal Alouett's debut. He

486
00:28:08.920 --> 00:28:12.200
played a relatively clean game, but
again you saw him take a lot of

487
00:28:12.240 --> 00:28:17.680
sacks, a continuing trend from his
time in Saskatchewan. Nick Arbuckle, on

488
00:28:17.720 --> 00:28:19.079
the other side, I just don't
think he's in. I don't think you

489
00:28:19.079 --> 00:28:22.119
could win games with him in the
CFL, and it's been proven over the

490
00:28:22.160 --> 00:28:26.319
last couple of years here in multiple
different stops. And I think if Jeremi

491
00:28:26.400 --> 00:28:30.039
Mozzoli isn't back soon and healthy and
playing at one hundred percent, I don't

492
00:28:30.039 --> 00:28:33.599
think this team was going anywhere this
year. Yeah I was. I'm trying

493
00:28:33.640 --> 00:28:37.880
to find my tweet ear outan give
your thoughts. I'll pull up my funny

494
00:28:37.880 --> 00:28:40.720
tweet the hatch from this game.
Yeah. Well, I mean I definitely

495
00:28:40.720 --> 00:28:42.720
agree with the arbuck will take.
I mean, this is fortunately for auto

496
00:28:42.799 --> 00:28:45.240
offense. This should just be a
sort of, you know, fill in

497
00:28:45.279 --> 00:28:48.359
for a couple of weeks before Massoli
comes back. This isn't what you have

498
00:28:48.400 --> 00:28:52.200
to ride with for the whole season. But you know that game. I

499
00:28:52.240 --> 00:28:56.200
think you know Attawa the fact that
they were in you know, that much

500
00:28:56.200 --> 00:28:59.160
of a striking distance, you know, one touchdown. I think that was

501
00:28:59.200 --> 00:29:00.400
a big credit, you know,
to their defense. You know, having

502
00:29:00.400 --> 00:29:03.200
the reigning defensive player of the Year
Lorenzo Malden. You know, he was

503
00:29:03.240 --> 00:29:06.720
still doing his thing, and but
at the end of the day, yeah,

504
00:29:06.720 --> 00:29:08.440
their quarterback play kind of hurt them. And you know, on the

505
00:29:08.480 --> 00:29:12.680
Montreal side, I was really impressed
with Austin Mack, the receiver. I

506
00:29:12.759 --> 00:29:15.960
know, obviously Montreal's down a couple
receivers right now, and he was someone

507
00:29:17.000 --> 00:29:19.400
that was kind of, you know, asked to step into a larger role,

508
00:29:19.480 --> 00:29:22.559
especially with this being his first year
in the CFL. But he was

509
00:29:22.640 --> 00:29:27.039
fantastic. Kay on Julian Grant as
someone I'm really hoping we'll have a breakout

510
00:29:27.039 --> 00:29:30.880
season this year. You know,
I've had my eyes on him throughout the

511
00:29:30.039 --> 00:29:33.640
entire offseason. And then yeah,
you want to talk about Cody Fajardo here

512
00:29:33.680 --> 00:29:37.359
again, I thought he was all
right, you know, a bit above

513
00:29:37.400 --> 00:29:40.200
average. It wasn't anything, you
know, to blow your socks off.

514
00:29:40.240 --> 00:29:42.799
I mean he had the again big
throw to Austin Mack to start the game,

515
00:29:42.799 --> 00:29:47.680
and that kind of put Montreal in
a pretty pausitive position really for you

516
00:29:47.680 --> 00:29:51.039
know the rest of the game.
But yeah, I mean there's still a

517
00:29:51.039 --> 00:29:52.000
couple of things, you know that
he could have done a bit better.

518
00:29:52.039 --> 00:29:55.839
You know, didn't have a passing
touchdown in that game. Was kind of

519
00:29:55.880 --> 00:29:59.279
more of a manager than everything.
You know, stand back, you know,

520
00:29:59.359 --> 00:30:00.880
being back in there, I think
helped a bit. And again you

521
00:30:00.880 --> 00:30:04.359
know, sort of the receiver stepping
up um and then on the defensive side,

522
00:30:04.400 --> 00:30:07.839
I know we haven't talked too much
defense on the show, but you

523
00:30:07.880 --> 00:30:11.119
know, Montreal having Siante Evans back
really proved to be um key in that

524
00:30:11.160 --> 00:30:15.680
game. Him coming over from Hamilton. I mean, he was in Montreal

525
00:30:15.759 --> 00:30:18.359
before in twenty nineteen, I believe, but it was nice to have him

526
00:30:18.400 --> 00:30:22.920
back, and he definitely you know, made it known that he wanted to

527
00:30:22.960 --> 00:30:26.119
be back and that that was a
good spot for him. He was very

528
00:30:26.160 --> 00:30:30.839
successful from what I remember with Montreal
the last time around. Yeah, here

529
00:30:30.839 --> 00:30:33.680
and I had here there are our
owner, Pierre. They're saying when Codie

530
00:30:33.680 --> 00:30:37.279
got sacked from a fel ib eighty
seventh time, they're saying, oh,

531
00:30:37.599 --> 00:30:40.799
Pierre really is enjoying what he's watching
right now, like he does not look

532
00:30:40.839 --> 00:30:42.960
like he's enjoyed what he's watching it
all. He looks like he's watching the

533
00:30:42.960 --> 00:30:47.880
start quarterback. I didn't get the
thing with Cody because like Cody came out

534
00:30:47.960 --> 00:30:51.279
hot and like he seems like you
always get that, especially in the CFL.

535
00:30:51.880 --> 00:30:53.200
You know, you that hot first
drive, we're going. He had

536
00:30:53.240 --> 00:30:56.000
the huge bomb to Austin mac Okay, here we go, We're going.

537
00:30:56.240 --> 00:30:59.440
And then it felt like the rest
of the game, they go, we

538
00:30:59.680 --> 00:31:00.839
we got to get the run game
going. We gotta get stand back going,

539
00:31:00.839 --> 00:31:03.640
we gotta get stand back going.
I didn't get that, Jason,

540
00:31:03.720 --> 00:31:07.720
Why didn't they give Cody? Was
it he didn't have enough time to throw

541
00:31:07.799 --> 00:31:10.559
the ball, Like, why didn't
we go back to trying to get Cody

542
00:31:10.599 --> 00:31:15.759
to pass where I think he was
fourteen of fourteen of twenty one. I

543
00:31:15.839 --> 00:31:18.519
think it comes down to all of
their injuries that they have at receiver and

544
00:31:18.599 --> 00:31:22.839
obviously the loss of Eugene Lewis this
offseason. Jake Winnicky also left out the

545
00:31:22.839 --> 00:31:26.440
door, but a guy named Reggie
White was their second leading receiver last year.

546
00:31:26.680 --> 00:31:30.599
He's on the sixth game injured list
to begin this season, so it

547
00:31:30.640 --> 00:31:34.240
was really important for guys like Austin
Mac like Evans said, to step up.

548
00:31:34.920 --> 00:31:37.319
So I think that's a good sign
for them going forward. But I

549
00:31:37.359 --> 00:31:41.519
think as for why they didn't lean
on the passing game more, I think

550
00:31:41.559 --> 00:31:45.160
that, you know, I think
they saw that their offensive line was struggling

551
00:31:45.200 --> 00:31:48.880
as well, but also the lack
of receivers I think is the biggest thing

552
00:31:48.920 --> 00:31:52.319
for Montreal and why they didn't intempt
to throw the ball more in week one.

553
00:31:52.880 --> 00:31:56.119
Yeah, Evan, it felt like, you know, I was trying

554
00:31:56.119 --> 00:31:59.160
to figure out the right meme for
this. Like Cody, he had no

555
00:31:59.200 --> 00:32:00.720
protection in that the Saskatchewan. I
was like, Okay, I'm gonna go

556
00:32:00.759 --> 00:32:04.519
here that I'm gonna go here the
Montreal and kind of have the exact same

557
00:32:04.559 --> 00:32:07.880
issue. It just absolutely get my
ass beat, Like Evan, what did

558
00:32:07.880 --> 00:32:09.799
you make just of Cody? It
just felt like he didn't have any time.

559
00:32:10.640 --> 00:32:14.240
I mean time and again, the
weapons for me are the big thing,

560
00:32:14.319 --> 00:32:15.759
right, I mean Montreal, you
know, took a huge hit in

561
00:32:15.799 --> 00:32:20.480
the offseason losing Gino Lewis, who
I personally think is the best receiver in

562
00:32:20.519 --> 00:32:23.359
the CFL. And we'll get to
more of his performance with Edmonton last night

563
00:32:23.400 --> 00:32:27.160
in a minute. But then Jake
Winnicky too, you know who's now in

564
00:32:27.160 --> 00:32:30.839
Saskatchewan. I mean it was a
really rough loss having those two guys.

565
00:32:30.880 --> 00:32:34.680
I mean, the one guy I'm
really interested to see when he comes back,

566
00:32:34.759 --> 00:32:37.359
it's not Reggie White, but it's
Greg Ellingson, you know, because

567
00:32:37.400 --> 00:32:40.079
I think Montreal would definitely benefit from
having that veteran presence. And I feel

568
00:32:40.119 --> 00:32:43.440
like even though Ellingson is older,
now, you know, he might not

569
00:32:43.519 --> 00:32:45.839
be exactly playing at an all star
level. Um, you know, having

570
00:32:45.920 --> 00:32:49.839
a guy like that where Fajardo can
just kind of, I think, lean

571
00:32:49.920 --> 00:32:52.640
on him because right now, you
know, it's like Austin Matka and Julian

572
00:32:52.680 --> 00:32:55.559
Grant saw these you know, sort
of unproven younger guys. You're not sure

573
00:32:55.559 --> 00:32:59.400
what they're gonna do with the ball, you know, so so I think

574
00:32:59.400 --> 00:33:00.839
that definitely a role as to why, you know, Cody maybe didn't have

575
00:33:00.880 --> 00:33:06.880
the best night that he could have. Yeah if Yeah, Julian Grant looked

576
00:33:06.920 --> 00:33:08.799
good, Austin mac had a couple
of really good grabs, Like I don't

577
00:33:08.839 --> 00:33:12.599
know if Okay, now maybe we
have more trust in this receiving core,

578
00:33:12.720 --> 00:33:15.640
like we didn't really know and it
was a lot of unknownced but it felt

579
00:33:15.680 --> 00:33:19.119
like when they went to it and
like Austin came up clutch either when he

580
00:33:19.160 --> 00:33:21.559
needed to a couple different times.
I don't know. Do you see them

581
00:33:21.799 --> 00:33:25.559
adjusting that philosophy going forward, Jason, in terms of throwing the ball more,

582
00:33:27.039 --> 00:33:29.079
Yeah, yeah, just in terms
like okay, now, maybe we

583
00:33:29.160 --> 00:33:30.480
kind of have a little bit of
an idea of what we can do.

584
00:33:31.079 --> 00:33:34.799
Yeah. Absolutely, And I think
a lot of it will probably be matchup

585
00:33:34.799 --> 00:33:37.720
based. I think Ottawa going against
the reigning most out saying defensive player,

586
00:33:37.759 --> 00:33:43.279
Lorenzo malden So I think they got
a lot of pressure on Montreal that maybe

587
00:33:43.279 --> 00:33:45.799
other teams won't. So I think
that's a factor. And I think if

588
00:33:45.839 --> 00:33:50.920
they if they get healthier in the
receiving core, I think that will be

589
00:33:51.079 --> 00:33:53.680
an influence on whether or not they
passed the ball more. Going forward.

590
00:33:54.519 --> 00:33:58.359
We have here insights at Tim Kapper. Go back and watch the sack.

591
00:33:58.400 --> 00:34:00.359
Stand back missing the blocks with the
cause of many of them. He admitted

592
00:34:00.400 --> 00:34:04.559
as much to me post game.
But I appreciate bad appreciate bad Evan any

593
00:34:04.599 --> 00:34:07.199
comments on Tama's comments here. I
mean, yeah, stand back, you

594
00:34:07.239 --> 00:34:10.039
know I said earlier. I mean, he definitely helped but it was it

595
00:34:10.119 --> 00:34:15.199
was also a bit forced and you
know, he did not have his best

596
00:34:15.239 --> 00:34:17.800
game, especially by William Standback standards, because people forget, I believe he

597
00:34:17.840 --> 00:34:21.079
was hurt last year, but you
know, prior to that, I mean,

598
00:34:21.119 --> 00:34:22.159
he was one of the top running
backs in the CFL. You know,

599
00:34:22.239 --> 00:34:24.960
no one was stopping that guy,
you know, hundred yards every game.

600
00:34:25.000 --> 00:34:28.880
I mean, he kind of I
think last year you could probably argue

601
00:34:28.880 --> 00:34:30.719
that James Butler is maybe the top
back who's you know now in Hamilton and

602
00:34:30.800 --> 00:34:34.840
helping out their run game. But
I've always been a big will Standback fan,

603
00:34:34.880 --> 00:34:37.440
and I hope that, you know, he can sort of take some

604
00:34:37.519 --> 00:34:39.079
of that pressure off for Jorda as
the season goes on. You know,

605
00:34:39.079 --> 00:34:43.079
I hope that they can kind of
get him back in the groove after not

606
00:34:43.119 --> 00:34:46.159
having him there for as long and
to just you know again, because you

607
00:34:46.159 --> 00:34:49.880
know, some of these guys like
that are on the sixth game injured list,

608
00:34:49.920 --> 00:34:52.079
you know they're not going to be
coming back right around the corner.

609
00:34:52.119 --> 00:34:53.559
You know, that's the decent chunk
of the season that they could be missing.

610
00:34:53.639 --> 00:34:57.480
So you know, I hope again
Standback can get back in there.

611
00:34:57.519 --> 00:35:00.039
And you know, I think again, Montreal's offense wasn't suppointing by any means.

612
00:35:00.079 --> 00:35:04.400
They did a lot with you know, sort of the situation that they

613
00:35:04.400 --> 00:35:07.400
were presented with. Again, Austin
mac blew me away. That was phenomenal.

614
00:35:07.519 --> 00:35:10.320
I think, you know, I
was talking to Emory Hunt and he

615
00:35:10.400 --> 00:35:13.280
was saying, yeah, this guy, you know, should still be in

616
00:35:13.280 --> 00:35:15.440
the of the NFL. Excuse me, it's a shame that he isn't because

617
00:35:15.480 --> 00:35:20.119
he was kind of stuck on a
couple of practice squads between I think it

618
00:35:20.159 --> 00:35:22.960
was you know, Giants, forty
nine ers and Titans something like that.

619
00:35:22.000 --> 00:35:25.639
But yeah, I mean, bottom
line again, gets Standback more involved,

620
00:35:25.679 --> 00:35:30.000
you know, maybe that boosts things. I did feel like Emory watches every

621
00:35:30.000 --> 00:35:32.800
single game of football that's ever played. I love Emory, friend of the

622
00:35:32.840 --> 00:35:37.159
show every and he works for CBS
Sports Network, but like, you know,

623
00:35:37.239 --> 00:35:38.760
he's watching the LF, he's watching
the USL, he's watching all this

624
00:35:38.800 --> 00:35:43.599
stuff. The thing was stand Back. Yeah, it did feel like he

625
00:35:43.679 --> 00:35:46.280
finally got like one big run at
the m Yeah we're sixteen, We're sixteen

626
00:35:46.320 --> 00:35:50.800
of forty two here, you know, with two point six average. Like

627
00:35:51.039 --> 00:35:52.280
it felt like, okay, we're
finally we're going, we're going, We're

628
00:35:52.320 --> 00:35:55.039
going to the detriment, and then
they finally got a little bit at the

629
00:35:55.079 --> 00:35:59.199
end. But I don't know if
it was worth sacrificing that much of the

630
00:35:59.199 --> 00:36:00.880
game philosophy. Jason, any other
thoughts on that, and we'll get to

631
00:36:00.920 --> 00:36:07.440
Ottawa. Well, I think it's
interesting because stand back finished the season when

632
00:36:07.440 --> 00:36:09.760
he came back from the injury last
year. It was kind of unexpected,

633
00:36:10.159 --> 00:36:14.639
but he ended up coming back and
playing about the last month of the season

634
00:36:14.800 --> 00:36:17.039
and he didn't look too good and
that carried over to this one. So

635
00:36:17.320 --> 00:36:22.079
hopefully he can take it up,
pick it up going forward, get back

636
00:36:22.079 --> 00:36:25.320
to that guy that was averaging five
six yards per carry in twenty twenty two

637
00:36:25.679 --> 00:36:30.199
story twenty twenty one, that is, and I think that he can get

638
00:36:30.199 --> 00:36:32.480
back to that level. But they
also have other running backs they can use.

639
00:36:32.599 --> 00:36:36.760
Jess when Antwe had a really good
season for them last year. Walter

640
00:36:36.840 --> 00:36:39.559
Fletcher is a guy I really liked, so they have options in that backfield.

641
00:36:39.719 --> 00:36:44.199
Maybe they should get these guys more
involved in the passing game with all

642
00:36:44.199 --> 00:36:46.760
those wide receiver injuries that they've had, So I mean, I think that's

643
00:36:46.760 --> 00:36:51.440
a consideration for them going forward.
But I'm kind of concerned about stand back

644
00:36:51.760 --> 00:36:57.480
poor performance carrying over to this season. I agree here speaking of poorer performances

645
00:36:57.760 --> 00:37:00.760
Ottawa, Nick Carbuckle, I don't
believe, is it. I don't think

646
00:37:00.800 --> 00:37:05.760
he is the answer to any question
ever here maybe except who I don't want

647
00:37:05.800 --> 00:37:08.559
as my quarterback. Evan, what
did you make of Nick Arbuckle's performance here

648
00:37:08.559 --> 00:37:12.000
for the Red Blacks. Yeah,
well, you know I was saying it

649
00:37:12.039 --> 00:37:15.679
earlier. Fortunately for Ottawa fans,
this isn't the long term thing, right,

650
00:37:15.679 --> 00:37:19.039
You're hoping Missoli comes back. And
again, I know Missoli's aging,

651
00:37:19.119 --> 00:37:21.880
I know he's more injury prone,
and he's coming off a pretty big one.

652
00:37:21.960 --> 00:37:24.480
Right. The fact that you know
this injury of his is lingering into

653
00:37:24.559 --> 00:37:28.519
the following season, this is a
bit concerning, but it is expected at

654
00:37:28.559 --> 00:37:30.400
his age, you know, with
Nick Arbuckle, Yeah, I mean at

655
00:37:30.400 --> 00:37:35.320
this point, he's kind of a
journeyman backup, you know, sort of

656
00:37:35.320 --> 00:37:37.119
like the Ryan Fitzpatrick that you have
in the NFL. Been with a lot

657
00:37:37.119 --> 00:37:40.840
of CFL teams, you know,
it hasn't necessarily been a full time starter

658
00:37:40.920 --> 00:37:45.480
in a while for my understanding,
but yeah, you know this was to

659
00:37:45.559 --> 00:37:47.079
me. I mean I don't know, I would have hoped for a bit

660
00:37:47.119 --> 00:37:51.920
more out of him, especially because
this game for Ottawa did still feel like

661
00:37:52.079 --> 00:37:54.159
winnable. Like again, it was
a really weird kind of matchup, Like

662
00:37:54.440 --> 00:37:59.400
the fact Ottawa was really in it
at all was a bit interesting, considering

663
00:37:59.519 --> 00:38:02.320
Arbuckle through three interceptions. But yeah, you know, Ottawa, I mean,

664
00:38:02.880 --> 00:38:07.000
I really hope, and you know, we'll get to it with Edmonton

665
00:38:07.039 --> 00:38:09.639
too, but I really hope this
is the year Ottawa turns things around,

666
00:38:09.679 --> 00:38:13.400
because it just feels like for the
longest time, you know, last year

667
00:38:13.440 --> 00:38:15.400
they were building, you know,
building a lot of hype around, getting

668
00:38:15.440 --> 00:38:20.480
guys like Jeremiah Massoli and Jayalen Acklin, you know, and trying to build

669
00:38:20.480 --> 00:38:22.039
the culture there. But so far
it just hasn't really worked out. You

670
00:38:22.039 --> 00:38:25.920
know, last year Massoli got hurt
and then from there things just kind of

671
00:38:25.920 --> 00:38:30.039
fell apart. Unfortunately, you know, they still have a pretty good defense

672
00:38:30.079 --> 00:38:34.159
again headline by Lorenzo Malden, who
we've already talked about. But yeah,

673
00:38:34.199 --> 00:38:37.079
I mean the bottom line is,
you know, right now, Ottawa is

674
00:38:37.079 --> 00:38:38.760
still in a hole and they still
need to pull themselves out of that hole.

675
00:38:39.880 --> 00:38:44.639
Sorry, I'm just laughing here Chris
says, stand back. Maybe it

676
00:38:44.719 --> 00:38:49.840
should maybe stand back and block his
ass. We're talking about them assignments for

677
00:38:49.960 --> 00:38:52.800
the blogging Jason, when did you
make up the garbuckling. Then we'll get

678
00:38:52.840 --> 00:38:55.400
into the rest of kind of Ottawa. But just this is this is this

679
00:38:55.400 --> 00:39:00.440
gould be his last stop here as
the starter, as a guy that's been

680
00:39:00.519 --> 00:39:04.679
given a chance to start, and
I definitely think it's the last chance because

681
00:39:04.719 --> 00:39:08.119
he's been in what three or four
spots now backup to bow leave by Mitchell

682
00:39:08.159 --> 00:39:13.960
in Calgary twenty twenty one with Toronto
than Edmonton to begin last year. So

683
00:39:14.039 --> 00:39:17.079
yeah, this is like his fourth
opportunity to have a good amount of games

684
00:39:17.079 --> 00:39:20.960
to start here, and honestly,
he just hasn't made the most of it.

685
00:39:21.159 --> 00:39:23.679
I think that the turnovers really piled
up for him in this one.

686
00:39:23.719 --> 00:39:27.719
You saw that last year with him
where he had just like a brutal I

687
00:39:27.719 --> 00:39:30.599
think it was like two to eleven
touchdown interception ratio last year. You can't

688
00:39:30.639 --> 00:39:34.679
have that, And I think that
when you look at this game the box

689
00:39:34.719 --> 00:39:38.079
score, that's what really stands out. Cody Fajardo no turnovers in this game,

690
00:39:38.320 --> 00:39:42.280
Nick Arbuckle with three, So I
mean, I think that's a really

691
00:39:42.320 --> 00:39:45.800
crucial thing in this game. He
forced it into double coverage a couple of

692
00:39:45.840 --> 00:39:47.960
times, which was pretty disappointing.
And I just don't think he has it

693
00:39:49.039 --> 00:39:52.800
from a physical standpoint. From a
mental standpoint, I think he can be

694
00:39:52.880 --> 00:39:55.840
a backup in this league still,
but I don't think anybody should view him

695
00:39:55.840 --> 00:40:00.239
as a starter or even a stop
gap option at this point. Well,

696
00:40:00.280 --> 00:40:02.239
and Jason, they weren't even good
interceptions, Like you said, it's like

697
00:40:02.239 --> 00:40:06.559
we're throwing in it's double car It
wasn't even it wasn't even close. I

698
00:40:06.559 --> 00:40:09.320
mean sometimes you get these flukey whatever, okay, bounce off whatever, the

699
00:40:09.320 --> 00:40:13.400
guy scoops them like. It wasn't
even close. It really felt like it

700
00:40:13.440 --> 00:40:17.440
was poor decision making at that point. Yeah, absolutely they were clean and

701
00:40:17.519 --> 00:40:22.239
it wasn't am I. So it
was just such a weird game because it

702
00:40:22.280 --> 00:40:23.960
didn't The Red Blacks like missed a
couple of field goals too. It was

703
00:40:24.000 --> 00:40:28.880
a horrible day for special teams and
friend of the sort Richie Leone had you

704
00:40:28.920 --> 00:40:30.760
know, had the miss and like
the fumbled he's trying to put and then

705
00:40:30.800 --> 00:40:34.880
he had the bad kickoff and all
that. But was it was so close.

706
00:40:34.920 --> 00:40:37.119
It felt like Ottawa really could have
won this. Am I am I

707
00:40:37.239 --> 00:40:42.320
misremembering that that Ottaway had a couple
of missfield goals. I don't think Ottawa

708
00:40:42.400 --> 00:40:45.840
missed any field goals. I don't, Okay, Okay, I'm not too

709
00:40:45.840 --> 00:40:50.599
sure. I know Calgary Renee Paradise
miss missed a couple of field goals.

710
00:40:50.639 --> 00:40:53.280
It's an opening game, okay,
but no, the difference is I think

711
00:40:53.280 --> 00:40:57.840
Ottawa just didn't score any touchdowns and
that's really the end of the day,

712
00:40:58.400 --> 00:41:00.360
a problem for them that's been dating
back a couple of years now with this

713
00:41:00.480 --> 00:41:06.719
offense. Evan thoughts on the rest
of ottawas hands Nick Carbuckle, I mean,

714
00:41:07.280 --> 00:41:08.719
yeah, Ottawa, you know,
on the special teams front, I

715
00:41:08.719 --> 00:41:13.360
think the one thing that really did
them in was they had a there was

716
00:41:13.400 --> 00:41:15.039
like a couple of plays that they
had to redo because of flags that would

717
00:41:15.039 --> 00:41:17.559
have been good for Montreal, and
then the one that actually counted for what

718
00:41:17.599 --> 00:41:21.880
I remember, it was like a
fumbled snap on third down and it pretty

719
00:41:21.960 --> 00:41:24.280
much set up Montreal with an automatic
first and goal. And it's just you

720
00:41:24.320 --> 00:41:27.679
know, those little things like that
again, I mean, you know,

721
00:41:28.440 --> 00:41:31.119
special teams, it's something that's overlooked
in all aspects of football. Doesn't really

722
00:41:31.159 --> 00:41:35.800
matter which league you could even go
down like the arena level. You know.

723
00:41:35.840 --> 00:41:37.199
It's one of these things where it's
like to me, like that is

724
00:41:37.280 --> 00:41:39.559
sort of the difference in the game. I think the major thing here is

725
00:41:39.639 --> 00:41:44.639
yet Fajardo didn't turn the ball over
once and Arbuckle was throwing interceptions left and

726
00:41:44.719 --> 00:41:46.719
right. I think that's what it
ultimately came down to there. But yeah,

727
00:41:46.760 --> 00:41:50.519
special teams definitely, I think hurt
Ottawa more than it helped them in

728
00:41:50.559 --> 00:41:53.360
this one, even if they didn't
necessarily miss out on direct points. I

729
00:41:53.440 --> 00:41:58.920
do like that was it when really
Richie kind of felt with the ball.

730
00:41:58.960 --> 00:42:00.760
Okay, we sat hackled him.
It was like the five yard line or

731
00:42:00.800 --> 00:42:05.400
something. Then we come back from
break and Montreal was penalized back, Like

732
00:42:05.559 --> 00:42:07.400
was that the whole thing last year? Like, Okay, we got to

733
00:42:07.440 --> 00:42:09.559
get rid of Cahary, like,
but on Montrial, like there's no discipline.

734
00:42:09.559 --> 00:42:12.480
And remember at the end of the
year and they had the field goal

735
00:42:12.480 --> 00:42:14.960
and all that, it was all
down like they had to redo. They

736
00:42:15.000 --> 00:42:17.119
can't get like we still have Montreal. I like that ongoing storyline. The

737
00:42:17.159 --> 00:42:21.840
Montreal still does not disciplined. They
can't figure that out, Jason any of

738
00:42:21.920 --> 00:42:24.159
their thoughts on this one. Well, it's funny you say that because Harry

739
00:42:24.280 --> 00:42:29.119
Jones is now the offensive coordinator in
Ottawa as well, So I mean he's

740
00:42:29.440 --> 00:42:34.000
involved with this on all angles.
So yeah, not much more from me.

741
00:42:34.440 --> 00:42:37.440
Well, I guess before we get
off this, so how do we

742
00:42:37.079 --> 00:42:40.039
if we're fans of these teams,
like Evan, how do you leave?

743
00:42:40.039 --> 00:42:44.880
As a Montreal fan? How do
you leave? Are we feeling good bad?

744
00:42:44.920 --> 00:42:51.199
How do you feel about this?
I feel confident in the fact that

745
00:42:52.079 --> 00:42:54.800
the offense was still able to produce
even if it wasn't perfect, knowing that

746
00:42:54.880 --> 00:42:58.599
you're down, you know, a
couple of your top options. And then

747
00:42:58.719 --> 00:43:02.480
I also leave knowing that, like
your defense also stepped up, which again

748
00:43:02.519 --> 00:43:07.880
should give you again more confidence.
From the Autowa perspective, I don't know

749
00:43:07.880 --> 00:43:09.360
if you're an Outawa fan, I
think you're just waiting for Massoli. I

750
00:43:09.360 --> 00:43:13.880
don't think anything really counts up until
he comes back and the offense actually has

751
00:43:13.880 --> 00:43:15.760
a decent option. Again, their
defense, in my opinion, is still

752
00:43:15.800 --> 00:43:20.960
one of the top in the league. But you know that's not gonna matter

753
00:43:21.039 --> 00:43:22.840
if you still have a zero,
you know in the lost in the win

754
00:43:22.920 --> 00:43:25.800
column, you know, for the
next couple of weeks. So again that

755
00:43:25.880 --> 00:43:30.559
that's where I stand on that same
question for you, Hassavier, you know

756
00:43:30.320 --> 00:43:32.800
bother these teams kind of your thoughts, how do we leave a week one?

757
00:43:34.960 --> 00:43:37.039
Well, the good news is it's
a long season, so they have

758
00:43:37.119 --> 00:43:40.079
lots of time to work out the
kinks. Um. You don't necessarily have

759
00:43:40.199 --> 00:43:44.920
to have this juggernaut record to make
the playoffs, especially in the East Division.

760
00:43:45.000 --> 00:43:47.400
So I mean, that's a good
thing for these teams, but I

761
00:43:47.440 --> 00:43:52.480
think, you know, it's a
huge win for Montreal, like because you

762
00:43:52.480 --> 00:43:55.880
know, this could ultimately go down
to a tiebreaker at the end of the

763
00:43:55.880 --> 00:44:00.760
season between these two teams to get
into the playoffs and getting that early East

764
00:44:00.760 --> 00:44:02.920
win. That's another thing about the
CFL that I don't think I brushed on

765
00:44:04.000 --> 00:44:08.400
on the live pregame show was that
the CFLs put a lot more of these

766
00:44:09.199 --> 00:44:14.679
in conference games like early on in
the season. Like last year, we

767
00:44:14.679 --> 00:44:17.880
didn't see that too much. We
usually see East versus West games all the

768
00:44:17.920 --> 00:44:22.519
way up until the first five six
weeks of the season. So the fact

769
00:44:22.559 --> 00:44:27.000
that we're getting a lot of these
rivalry games early in the season means that

770
00:44:27.000 --> 00:44:30.119
we're getting more consequential games for the
standings early in the year, so we're

771
00:44:30.199 --> 00:44:34.639
learning more about these teams each week. It was at a conscious choice.

772
00:44:34.639 --> 00:44:38.199
I mean, why did they decide
to go that route. I'm honestly not

773
00:44:38.400 --> 00:44:42.719
completely sure why they decided to do
that. Maybe it was that fans were

774
00:44:42.760 --> 00:44:46.639
complaining that certain teams were playing each
other too many times back to back in

775
00:44:46.679 --> 00:44:50.599
the middle of the season or towards
the end of the season. We saw

776
00:44:50.639 --> 00:44:53.800
Toronto and Hamilton play four times in
six weeks last year, which was kind

777
00:44:53.800 --> 00:44:58.000
of ridiculous. So I'm glad they're
kind of spreading it out more and I

778
00:44:58.079 --> 00:45:00.000
kind of like it better this way. Yeah, I didn't do I think

779
00:45:00.000 --> 00:45:02.960
we did like a deep dive analysis
at the schedule when it came out.

780
00:45:02.960 --> 00:45:06.719
There's certainly been long enough, but
yeah, I mean even next week Edmonton

781
00:45:06.760 --> 00:45:09.639
at BC, Winnipeg at Saskatchewan,
Hamilton Toronto. Yeah, I mean,

782
00:45:09.639 --> 00:45:14.239
it definitely seems like we're trying to
kind of line up some of these consequential

783
00:45:14.440 --> 00:45:16.239
you know, we have one so
then we get into these fun like three

784
00:45:16.280 --> 00:45:19.880
game weeks and all of that stuff. In here. I love the CFL

785
00:45:19.920 --> 00:45:23.480
schedule and that in terms of last
game going on here, this was we

786
00:45:23.519 --> 00:45:29.039
had the big thirty two thousand,
We're getting Victor Queen kind of packing the

787
00:45:29.079 --> 00:45:32.119
back in the Commonwealth there, Evan, what did you make of this?

788
00:45:32.400 --> 00:45:37.840
Edmonton still cannot win at home?
Here are going down seventeen thirteen against Saskatchewan.

789
00:45:37.519 --> 00:45:40.000
Yeah, you know, I really
thought Edmonton was going to pull through

790
00:45:40.000 --> 00:45:43.559
on this one. It looked like, you know, for most of that

791
00:45:43.639 --> 00:45:46.320
game that they had a fighting chance, and I was I'm still waiting for

792
00:45:46.360 --> 00:45:50.679
the day where Edmonton can win at
home because, like I don't know,

793
00:45:50.800 --> 00:45:53.880
the lot I think the last time
Edmonton won at home, Michael Riley was

794
00:45:53.920 --> 00:45:58.800
starting for the BC Lions, so
it's it's been a long time, which

795
00:45:58.880 --> 00:46:00.199
is, you know, I feel
I feel really bad for their fans,

796
00:46:00.280 --> 00:46:04.159
especially because they had such a huge
crowd at that game, and it really

797
00:46:04.159 --> 00:46:06.519
did kind of come right down to
the wire there at the end of the

798
00:46:06.559 --> 00:46:09.480
fourth quarter. But ultimately, yeah, I thought this was a pretty entertaining

799
00:46:09.519 --> 00:46:13.639
game, you know, from early
on, you know, Saskatchewan from what

800
00:46:13.719 --> 00:46:15.920
I remember, came out pretty hot
and then Gino Lewis had a you know,

801
00:46:15.920 --> 00:46:20.400
one hundred and two yard touchdown that
really you know, got Edmonton kind

802
00:46:20.400 --> 00:46:22.280
of back in the fold, and
then from there they kind of slowed down

803
00:46:22.320 --> 00:46:25.039
until the end. You know,
you kind of had a slow second and

804
00:46:25.079 --> 00:46:29.280
third quarter from when I remember a
couple of field goals. But yeah,

805
00:46:29.360 --> 00:46:31.400
ultimately, you know, I think
for both of these teams, you know,

806
00:46:31.480 --> 00:46:35.880
it's for Edmonton, I'm not sure
if it's a step in the right

807
00:46:35.880 --> 00:46:37.679
direction because you didn't get your you
know, home win that you've been looking

808
00:46:37.679 --> 00:46:40.840
for for almost four years now,
I guess three and a half years.

809
00:46:42.440 --> 00:46:45.039
But for Saskatchewan, you know,
it's you're one to oh and considering you

810
00:46:45.079 --> 00:46:49.480
only had six wins last year,
you know, even if it wasn't pretty

811
00:46:49.519 --> 00:46:53.159
and you're beating a team by four
points that hasn't been that great in recent

812
00:46:53.199 --> 00:46:58.159
seasons, it's a step in right
direction again, especially with the new quarterback

813
00:46:58.199 --> 00:47:00.960
and you've got a lot of there
was a lot of new people on that

814
00:47:00.039 --> 00:47:04.880
side of the Saskatchewan ball. The
team almost didn't look recognizable to me.

815
00:47:05.119 --> 00:47:07.159
You know, I was looking,
I'm like, who are all these guys?

816
00:47:07.159 --> 00:47:09.239
You know, outside of maybe Jamal
Morrow, you know, there wasn't

817
00:47:09.440 --> 00:47:13.920
there wasn't very many there that I
could really you know, put my finger

818
00:47:14.000 --> 00:47:16.119
on. I guess you would say, JESSU, what did you make of

819
00:47:16.159 --> 00:47:20.280
it? Jess I still can't believe
coming out and I wanted to get into

820
00:47:20.320 --> 00:47:22.760
the goal line stand. That's kind
of its own thing here at the end.

821
00:47:22.800 --> 00:47:25.679
But just overall, Elk's still not
yeah coming through. Yeah. I

822
00:47:25.760 --> 00:47:30.199
was heartbroken for them. I was
cheering for them hard in this game,

823
00:47:30.920 --> 00:47:34.639
but ultimately I thought it was a
pretty sloppy game. But I was more

824
00:47:34.760 --> 00:47:37.440
entertained by this game than I was
the Ottawa Montreal game on Saturday night.

825
00:47:37.599 --> 00:47:40.880
I think there was more big plays
in this one. I mean, you

826
00:47:40.920 --> 00:47:45.039
know, I think that with these
new look offenses, it's pretty interesting to

827
00:47:45.039 --> 00:47:47.320
see how they work out. I
think Trevor Harris threw a really, really

828
00:47:47.639 --> 00:47:53.639
poor interception that led to that goal
line stand, that goal line opportunity for

829
00:47:53.760 --> 00:47:57.239
Edmonton that we'll talk about in a
few minutes. But I mean, at

830
00:47:57.239 --> 00:48:00.199
the end of the day, I
think, you know, just really for

831
00:48:00.239 --> 00:48:02.320
the Edmonton fans and how they didn't
get a win here, and I mean

832
00:48:02.360 --> 00:48:06.480
I'll be cheering for them going forward, but it really feels like what a

833
00:48:06.559 --> 00:48:08.719
missed opportunity. For this team,
especially with the big crowd they had there.

834
00:48:09.559 --> 00:48:13.480
Yeah. Do you think they'll be
able to replicate that again, Jason,

835
00:48:13.519 --> 00:48:15.559
because it's like, you know,
the same and I know like BC

836
00:48:15.760 --> 00:48:19.400
does the big concerts and all that
stuff, but like to be able to

837
00:48:19.400 --> 00:48:22.360
get so many fans in there,
haven to be so close heartbroken. Do

838
00:48:22.440 --> 00:48:23.719
you think they get them back next
time, because I think it's like week

839
00:48:23.760 --> 00:48:29.719
after next, right, Yeah.
I think having the guaranteed win tickets helps

840
00:48:30.159 --> 00:48:34.920
definitely having free tickets to some of
these fans that I don't believe it was

841
00:48:34.960 --> 00:48:37.039
all the tickets, but I think
a certain percentage of them or guaranteed win

842
00:48:37.079 --> 00:48:42.719
tickets, so that will certainly help
encourage some of the fans to come back.

843
00:48:42.760 --> 00:48:45.280
But at the end of the day, if this losing just keeps persisting

844
00:48:45.639 --> 00:48:50.280
the struggles of the team, I
mean, I think that they'll probably have

845
00:48:50.360 --> 00:48:54.480
something in the twenty thousands for next
game, better than what they were having

846
00:48:54.559 --> 00:48:58.519
last year. But I think at
the end of the day, they're probably

847
00:48:58.599 --> 00:49:00.960
not going to see that same thirty
two thousand. I think it was for

848
00:49:01.159 --> 00:49:06.000
this home opener, given what we
saw in Week one. Yeah, I

849
00:49:06.000 --> 00:49:07.559
think it was like a select number
Kate was saying on the thing like,

850
00:49:07.559 --> 00:49:12.159
oh, there's still like nine of
these special tickets left. I'm like they

851
00:49:12.199 --> 00:49:15.519
have been pushing this for months,
like how are there's still nine? How

852
00:49:15.599 --> 00:49:17.760
do you have thirty two thousand people? And because not criticizing the crowd,

853
00:49:17.760 --> 00:49:21.159
there was a great crowd, like
how do you have thirty two thousand people

854
00:49:21.159 --> 00:49:23.760
there? We still have nine of
these special Evan, what do you like

855
00:49:23.880 --> 00:49:28.000
the golden ticket thing? Or we
a fan of that? You know,

856
00:49:28.079 --> 00:49:31.679
I actually haven't heard much about that, so I'm kind of interested to dive

857
00:49:31.760 --> 00:49:35.719
deeper into that. I wasn't really
familiar with it. Yeah, you get

858
00:49:35.800 --> 00:49:37.920
like you there's a certain section that
if you buy a ticket there, you

859
00:49:37.920 --> 00:49:40.679
buy a week one and then you
are able to sit in that seat every

860
00:49:40.719 --> 00:49:45.639
week for free until they win again. Oh that's yeah, that's an interesting

861
00:49:45.679 --> 00:49:50.559
one. I you know, maybe
well for those fans, maybe it's a

862
00:49:50.559 --> 00:49:54.639
good thing that Elkston win yesterday.
But from the you know, just general

863
00:49:54.639 --> 00:49:59.320
football perspective outside of golden tickets,
I mean, you know, we talk

864
00:49:59.360 --> 00:50:01.920
about uh, you know, week
one game sort of you know, being

865
00:50:04.840 --> 00:50:07.480
sort of like, you know,
they're kind of you got a knee jerk

866
00:50:07.519 --> 00:50:09.559
reaction like you're you know, still
a bit rusty. But for Edmonton,

867
00:50:09.599 --> 00:50:13.440
it's like you kind of have to
start shaking off the rust a bit quicker

868
00:50:13.480 --> 00:50:15.559
than the rest of the teams because
at this point, and I think even

869
00:50:15.599 --> 00:50:19.039
you know, Chris Jones and the
rest of Edmonton staff, no, like

870
00:50:19.079 --> 00:50:21.880
the excuses have kind of run out. You know, you had your chances

871
00:50:21.920 --> 00:50:24.320
to develop players and you know,
bringing guys and whatever, and they're doing

872
00:50:24.360 --> 00:50:28.719
that, you know, I like, you know what Giroy Simon and all

873
00:50:28.760 --> 00:50:30.960
them are doing, you know,
building the team. I think they definitely

874
00:50:30.960 --> 00:50:35.280
have some interesting players, but you
know, to it gets to a point

875
00:50:35.280 --> 00:50:37.280
where it's like, but you have
to win games, right, That's what

876
00:50:37.320 --> 00:50:39.400
football is. It's a winning business. You need to win in order to

877
00:50:39.480 --> 00:50:43.679
keep your job and to be successful
and to compete for great cups. And

878
00:50:43.880 --> 00:50:45.800
Edmonton hasn't been doing a lot of
that, you know, in a long

879
00:50:45.880 --> 00:50:49.639
time. So, um, I
hope, you know, I wish the

880
00:50:49.679 --> 00:50:52.239
best for them. I'm really hoping. I I'm kind of itching to watch

881
00:50:52.320 --> 00:50:57.280
every Edmonton home game in full this
season until they win that home game.

882
00:50:57.320 --> 00:51:00.320
I really want to see that happen. That's like kind of it's top of

883
00:51:00.360 --> 00:51:04.559
my list from like the analysts slash
fan perspective. But we'll see what happens.

884
00:51:04.559 --> 00:51:07.199
You know, I genuinely thought it
was going to happen yesterday, and

885
00:51:07.519 --> 00:51:09.559
unfortunately I was wrong. So we'll
have to wait another I don't know when

886
00:51:09.559 --> 00:51:13.880
their next home game is, but
I'm sure you can probably check that it

887
00:51:14.039 --> 00:51:16.360
is it the it's Toronto, right, I was looking on here at Toronto's

888
00:51:16.400 --> 00:51:21.880
coming in whatever week after the next. I think it was funny. I

889
00:51:21.960 --> 00:51:24.199
thought a friend of the show,
John Hodge, tweet like Edmonton. I

890
00:51:25.039 --> 00:51:30.599
think it was him that said Edmonton, they wanted to raise up kind of

891
00:51:30.800 --> 00:51:35.079
a mediocre quarterback, right, we're
gonna surround him by an elite receiver.

892
00:51:35.159 --> 00:51:37.840
Sin it's kind of the other way
around, right where he's almost ragging them

893
00:51:37.880 --> 00:51:39.320
down. Like that was the same
thing last year when they paid up for

894
00:51:39.400 --> 00:51:43.239
Kenny Lawler. I like, we're
gonna make him be the highest paid receiver.

895
00:51:43.320 --> 00:51:45.960
I'm like, who the hell like
for Nick, it's like buying the

896
00:51:45.119 --> 00:51:47.639
Ferrari for your brother, Like,
who are you? Like? What are

897
00:51:47.679 --> 00:51:52.920
we doing with this Jason? In
terms of this goal line s down,

898
00:51:52.000 --> 00:51:54.559
I think it was Milt Stiegel kind
of was talking at the end of the

899
00:51:54.599 --> 00:51:59.599
game, I was watching like kind
of to me, exemplified everything about this

900
00:51:59.719 --> 00:52:02.360
right here, you have three opportunities
to go in get the score. What

901
00:52:02.519 --> 00:52:07.800
did you make up? Kind of
distance Saskatchewan holding them up incredibly disappointing.

902
00:52:07.880 --> 00:52:12.719
I think that you really couldn't ask
for a better opportunity to take the lead

903
00:52:12.800 --> 00:52:15.159
in that situation, first and goal
from the one yard line, and I

904
00:52:15.199 --> 00:52:19.840
think your offensive line just has to
win in those situations. There's really no

905
00:52:19.920 --> 00:52:22.440
excuse, there's no h you know, there's a there's a one yard neutral

906
00:52:22.519 --> 00:52:28.239
zone in the CFL. You should
be able to win those situations at least

907
00:52:28.239 --> 00:52:30.599
if you have three cracks in it. So that's very disappointing. I think

908
00:52:30.599 --> 00:52:36.840
that I have questions about Kayle Locksley
being the short yardage quarterback for Edmonton because

909
00:52:37.280 --> 00:52:39.960
usually you want a bigger guy running
that just to have a little bit more

910
00:52:39.960 --> 00:52:44.280
power, to get a bit bit
more of a push forward. I don't

911
00:52:44.320 --> 00:52:47.159
think he gives you that. It's
pretty much a pretty small guy. So

912
00:52:47.920 --> 00:52:52.559
very very disappointing. And I think, to go back to Cornelius, I

913
00:52:52.599 --> 00:52:54.880
think that you know, in general, if you take away that one hundred

914
00:52:54.920 --> 00:52:59.679
and two yard play. He played
pretty awful in this game overall, and

915
00:52:59.719 --> 00:53:02.920
I think, you know, going
forward, we need to see that consistency,

916
00:53:04.239 --> 00:53:07.599
get that completion percentage that you know, efficiency of this offense up.

917
00:53:07.679 --> 00:53:12.719
I think that's the problem. They're
just not gaining first downs consistently enough,

918
00:53:12.840 --> 00:53:16.039
and that's a problem that's been persisting
for a few years in Edmonton. Do

919
00:53:16.159 --> 00:53:20.039
we see tray Forward here, like, what is the deal with that?

920
00:53:20.119 --> 00:53:22.360
Do we see him come in Jason
and then we'll go to Evan? Well,

921
00:53:22.360 --> 00:53:27.599
that's what I'm wondering. I think, how long until they make that

922
00:53:27.719 --> 00:53:31.400
decision to either go to tray Forward
or go to Kai Locksley potentially who's been

923
00:53:31.440 --> 00:53:36.280
around for a couple of years now
with the team. So I mean I

924
00:53:36.320 --> 00:53:38.320
think that you know, obviously,
I think they give it a couple of

925
00:53:38.360 --> 00:53:43.320
more weeks, but I think if
that doesn't happen, I think that that's

926
00:53:43.360 --> 00:53:46.519
when you start to consider going to
another option, because Chris Jones has to

927
00:53:46.519 --> 00:53:50.920
win some games. Like you guys
were saying, yeah, Evan thoughts on

928
00:53:51.000 --> 00:53:52.760
Cornelius. I know we're fans of
him and attract him, but kind of

929
00:53:52.760 --> 00:53:57.639
anything else at Edmonton here, Well, this whole quarterback room I really want

930
00:53:57.679 --> 00:54:00.519
to talk about for a minute because
I'm a big Kai Locks fan. But

931
00:54:00.559 --> 00:54:02.280
as Jason said, you know,
he said it perfectly. I don't know

932
00:54:02.320 --> 00:54:07.480
if he's exactly a short yardage quarterback
as you typically see in the CFL.

933
00:54:07.519 --> 00:54:09.599
I would like to see him on
certain package plays where maybe you know,

934
00:54:09.639 --> 00:54:13.840
they run. I don't know,
it doesn't necessarily have to be a run,

935
00:54:13.920 --> 00:54:15.719
but you know, i'd like to
see him throw the ball a bit

936
00:54:15.760 --> 00:54:16.880
more. And I know he can
play a bit of receiver too, so

937
00:54:17.199 --> 00:54:21.239
maybe something you know, in that
realm. It would be really interesting for

938
00:54:21.280 --> 00:54:22.920
them to kind of shake it up, like nothing really hurts at this point

939
00:54:22.960 --> 00:54:27.039
given the position there. And uh
yeah, Trey Forward for me is the

940
00:54:27.079 --> 00:54:29.840
one that you know, I would
really love to see him, you know,

941
00:54:29.920 --> 00:54:32.039
get a couple starts in this season, especially given that he's a homegrown

942
00:54:32.079 --> 00:54:37.880
Canadian talent. You know, a
lot of the talk last night was you

943
00:54:37.920 --> 00:54:40.760
know, surrounding Taylor Cornelius and you
know, Chris Jones talking about, oh,

944
00:54:40.840 --> 00:54:43.920
you're gonna see it this year.
You know, it's year three.

945
00:54:43.960 --> 00:54:46.679
We've been working on this for a
while. But if you don't win games

946
00:54:46.679 --> 00:54:50.440
like you know, Jason said,
outside of that one hundred and two yard

947
00:54:50.440 --> 00:54:53.480
play to Gino Lewis, I mean, Taylor Cornelius essentially did nothing, you

948
00:54:53.480 --> 00:54:58.880
know, and that's I mean.
I liked Cornelius. I thought he had

949
00:54:58.880 --> 00:55:01.039
a high ceiling when he was in
the XFL and twenty twenty with Tampa.

950
00:55:01.079 --> 00:55:05.159
I was really excited to see where
his career would go. And eventually he

951
00:55:05.280 --> 00:55:07.320
landed in Canada and he's been there, you know, since twenty twenty one

952
00:55:07.360 --> 00:55:10.599
now. But at this point,
you know, I'm really pulling for Trey

953
00:55:10.639 --> 00:55:15.039
Fod to just come in at some
point. Again, I'm not saying Cornelius

954
00:55:15.119 --> 00:55:16.480
should lose his job, because again
it's only week one, right, You're

955
00:55:16.519 --> 00:55:19.320
gonna give it a couple of weeks. You're gonna see how it is.

956
00:55:19.760 --> 00:55:22.639
But if I'm you know, coaching
in Edmonton, or you know, I'm

957
00:55:22.639 --> 00:55:25.480
doing personnel stuff or whatever, you
know, I think that leash is pretty

958
00:55:25.480 --> 00:55:30.119
short because even last year, I
mean, Cornelius is all time you know,

959
00:55:30.199 --> 00:55:32.280
win lost record. It's like four
and sixteen or something. You know,

960
00:55:32.320 --> 00:55:36.599
it's atrocious, and I don't know
what his touchdown to turnover ratio is,

961
00:55:36.679 --> 00:55:39.559
but I can't imagine that it's much
better because last last night, outside

962
00:55:39.559 --> 00:55:42.639
of that, again the big play
to Gino Lewis, you know, he

963
00:55:42.679 --> 00:55:45.679
had two turnovers, probably like one
hundred passing yards. You know, that's

964
00:55:45.679 --> 00:55:49.159
just not acceptable for a team that's
trying to you know, win, And

965
00:55:49.199 --> 00:55:51.679
I feel like it would be such
a great story. And again this is

966
00:55:52.239 --> 00:55:55.440
very hypothetical, but imagine if you
had, you know, Canadian quarterback Trey

967
00:55:55.480 --> 00:56:00.119
Ford start a home game for the
Elks and that happens to be there or

968
00:56:00.159 --> 00:56:01.480
you know, first home win and
again three and a half, four years

969
00:56:01.559 --> 00:56:05.679
whatever. I think that would really
help sort of build the culture there in

970
00:56:05.800 --> 00:56:08.000
Edmonton and kind of get fans back
in the stands and then maybe you maintain

971
00:56:08.079 --> 00:56:13.559
that number within the twenty thousands.
Jason, any other thoughts on that or

972
00:56:13.599 --> 00:56:15.519
I do want to touch down on
just to Scatchewan kind of as a whole

973
00:56:15.559 --> 00:56:19.159
before we get out of here at
the hour. Anything else you want to

974
00:56:19.199 --> 00:56:22.679
head on. Well, I think
with you know, with this whole quarterback

975
00:56:22.760 --> 00:56:27.800
situation, I think that Taylor Cornelius, I think one of the strengths of

976
00:56:27.840 --> 00:56:31.920
his game right now is like running
and scrambling around, and I think that's

977
00:56:31.920 --> 00:56:35.719
what tray Board would give you.
So I think that, you know,

978
00:56:36.199 --> 00:56:39.000
when you look at it like that, I think that maybe tray board would

979
00:56:39.039 --> 00:56:43.440
be the better option to go to
if these struggles continue. To see another

980
00:56:43.480 --> 00:56:47.400
couple of games like this from Cornelius
Jason. Any thoughts here on Trevor Harris,

981
00:56:47.400 --> 00:56:51.840
how the ore boy look here coming
in? You know the new look

982
00:56:51.840 --> 00:56:57.239
at Montreal outlets a little bit.
Well, I'm not the biggest fan of

983
00:56:57.280 --> 00:57:00.880
this move just to Scatchewan as people
that have watched my channel. No I'm

984
00:57:00.159 --> 00:57:05.119
I've called Trevor Harris an East Division
quarterback. But at the end of the

985
00:57:05.199 --> 00:57:07.400
day, I think that there were
some good things from Harris in this game,

986
00:57:07.519 --> 00:57:10.000
some good timing routes. You know, he's gonna do his thing.

987
00:57:10.079 --> 00:57:15.800
He does what he does well,
but you all obviously know his limitations and

988
00:57:15.840 --> 00:57:20.360
he can make some real stupid throw
sometime. That second interception was inexcusable for

989
00:57:20.440 --> 00:57:23.719
a bettering quarterback of over ten years, and the CFL could have gave Edmonton

990
00:57:23.719 --> 00:57:29.039
to win there if Edmonton could just
Couldburt one play at the one yard line.

991
00:57:29.119 --> 00:57:32.480
So I think Trevor played okay at
times, but overall, I think

992
00:57:32.519 --> 00:57:37.840
that they're looking for more from him. Any other thoughts for me before we

993
00:57:37.840 --> 00:57:40.400
get out of here. Yeah,
I mean to just touch on Trevor Harris

994
00:57:40.400 --> 00:57:44.119
for a minute. I mean I
thought he did okay again, you know,

995
00:57:44.159 --> 00:57:45.599
he might be entering this sort of
phase of his career. I kind

996
00:57:45.639 --> 00:57:49.760
of view him and believe I'm Mitchell
in a similar circle. It's like,

997
00:57:49.800 --> 00:57:52.159
all right, like, are we
gonna you know, bounce back with a

998
00:57:52.159 --> 00:57:54.760
new team. Not necessarily saying that, you know, Trevor Harris was bad

999
00:57:54.840 --> 00:57:58.840
in Montreal, but it's like,
are you going to have another career year

1000
00:57:59.760 --> 00:58:01.199
or you're just gonna kind of keep, you know, going on to decline

1001
00:58:01.280 --> 00:58:04.360
by the way, I know I
was talking about it. Do you read?

1002
00:58:04.360 --> 00:58:07.440
But I cannot believe Trevor Harris is
thirty seven years old. That like

1003
00:58:07.559 --> 00:58:09.360
blew my mind. I because I
think believe I was like thirty four.

1004
00:58:09.400 --> 00:58:12.559
I thought him and you know,
Trevor Harris were the same age. And

1005
00:58:12.559 --> 00:58:14.599
when they were saying that he was, you know, thirty seven, I

1006
00:58:14.639 --> 00:58:16.320
was like, that can't be right, Like that seems really like, you

1007
00:58:16.360 --> 00:58:19.760
know, I know he's been around
for a long time, like Jason said,

1008
00:58:19.760 --> 00:58:22.519
You've been the CFL now for like
a decade. But it just never

1009
00:58:22.519 --> 00:58:24.559
really crossed my mind that, like, you know, he was that old,

1010
00:58:24.599 --> 00:58:28.639
like that was, you know,
shockingly old for me. Yeah,

1011
00:58:29.480 --> 00:58:32.440
yeah, he's older than I am. Yeah. And now Jerremen Mizzolway's like

1012
00:58:32.440 --> 00:58:36.480
thirty six. Yeah, like yeah, some of these guys are older than

1013
00:58:36.559 --> 00:58:39.159
we think. And I think believe
I mentioned I know if McCloud Adam Thompson

1014
00:58:39.199 --> 00:58:43.679
returned to Toronto, bolie By Mitchell
actually would have been the youngest quarterback in

1015
00:58:43.679 --> 00:58:47.400
the East Divisions this year, believe
it or not. Well, this has

1016
00:58:47.440 --> 00:58:51.920
been fun. I appreciate it.
Jason and I will be here on Monday's

1017
00:58:52.159 --> 00:58:53.800
doing this. Evans, welcome back
as always, I kind of said in

1018
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our group stream, like anyone's welcome. I just like to spread the bird.

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Now we've had Andy doing the XFL, pat do and the USFL Like

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I just never wanted to be an
obligation here, but welcome anyone. Anything

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else from Jason or Evan before we
get out, because I know Jason's got

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to go get some stuff done.
Not much for me, I think,

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you know, good overall Week one. Excited for Week two. Evan?

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Anything else for me? What are
you going to be looking forward to here?

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This week. Yep, I would
say the same thing. You know,

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I hope that you know, as
the weeks go on, you know,

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some of these teams where there's a
lot of questions, we're able to

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figure things out. And you know, you say that every season, right,

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And I hope that you know,
the teams that are doing well continue

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to do well. You look at
Winnipeg and BC teams like that again,

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hoping for continued success and hoping that
the teams below that can rise up well

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perfect that hopefully we can bring some
fans, like I said, like and

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subscribe, Pat and I will be
back here tomorrow. And then we're still

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trying to figure out I got an
email at Jeffrey over at XFL figuring out

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what is the rookie draft schedule for
Friday, because I think we're going to

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try to go live to talk about
that. So lots of excitement here.

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I appreciate you guys. Let me
get this outro staff here and we'll see

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you next time. Thanks. People
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