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Hello everybody, Welcome, here we
go. It is that time again,

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Matt Connerton Unleashed and we are live
from the studios of w m n H

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five point three FM, the Glorious
Downtown Manchester, New Hampshire, also on

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Comcast ninety seven. If you're in
Manchester. Hello to all of our online

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listeners across the nation and around the
globe. You can go to my website

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Matt Connerton dot com for all of
your live streaming options, social media links,

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contact info, show archives, etc. Etc. Today is it is

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the first of the month. Hence
the little Bone Thugs and Harmony to open

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up today's show first of the month, as that's become kind of an unofficial

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tradition here when I remember, I'll
be the first to admit I've not been

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consistent with it. There have been
first of the month where well, for

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one thing, sometimes it falls on
a weekend, but there have been first

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of the month where I have not
thought to play that song. So I

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haven't so you can't say that I've
overdone it, but but I try to

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remember I always I always loved that
song. The two massive hits from that

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album that Bone Thugs had where that
and Crossroads and Crossroads is the one everyone

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remembers, and First of the Month
has always been kind of secondary to that.

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But First of the Month has always
been my favorite. So and I

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played doesn't have to end this way, the remastered version from the band Stand

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Up Audio. We had two of
the guys, Joe Pero and Joe Cadrette

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in with us in studio yesterday on
the couch and had a great conversation and

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we were sharing some of their new
music. But and this was completely my

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own fault. I had misunderstood something
and I the version of that song that

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I played was the older version.
They have a new remastered version. So

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I told the guys, I said, well, you know what, I'll

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play the remastered one today at the
top of the show. And it does

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sound better. And I thought the
original sounded great too, but yeah,

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you can really hear some of the
dynamics, especially you know, sitting here

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with headphones on. The dynamics really
come out in the remastered version. It's

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it just sounds fantastic. And about
that, I have two tickets to give

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away to see Stand Up Audio this
Saturday night at the Rex Theater right downtown

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here, right around the corner on
Amhurst Street, said Jenny, dis message

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being said, don't forget the ticket
giveaway. Yes, yes, thank you.

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They will be here right around the
corner, like I said, at

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the Rex and UH an evening with
a stand up audio. They're the only

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band playing. Oh she said OI
and unsent the message. No, I

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appreciate I appreciate it. Uh,
I appreciate it, Jenny. No,

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it's good to remind me because I
do forget things. Um, but yeah,

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we're looking forward to that. Jenny
and I will be there, So

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come see the band and UH and
then UH come say hello to us as

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well. So I will offer these
and by the way, you don't have

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to pick up physical tickets or anything. I will just give you or I'm

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sorry, I will give them your
name and they will put you on the

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list. So you'll be on the
guest list, you and UH and A

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plus one and UH. So I
will offer that to whoever wants it,

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whoever is the first caller. Just
if if you if you call to claim

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again, they're not really tickets,
you'll just you'll be on the list.

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You'll be you'll be comped, as
we say. But if you do call

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in to claim them, just please
don't don't be like, oh, what

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the heck, you know, alcohol, and you know, maybe I'll go,

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maybe I won't. Please only claim
these uh these tickets if you're definitely

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going to go, because I don't
be uh. You know, on radio

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they call it a prize pig people
who we've had this conversation with EZG before.

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We won't rehash all of that,
but you know, people who just

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like to win prizes, whether they
actually are interested in the prize or not.

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Don't, don't don't be a prize
pig. But if you're actually interested

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in going, and you should be
interested in going because they're such a great

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band. We're really looking forward to
seeing them Saturday night at the Rex Theater.

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So it was kind of funny if
you heard yesterday's show. The guys

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were here, Joe Perow and Joe
Cadrette to the guys from stant Up Audio,

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and we were at the end of
the show and one of them said,

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oh, by the way, Matt, we wanted to, um,

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it might be a little late now, but we wanted to give away a

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couple of tickets. Uh, you
know, if you have listeners who want

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to go. And it was like
literally like five minutes at the end of

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the show, I said, well, I could do that tomorrow, a

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little late to do it today.
That was kind of funny, but yeah,

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give me a call six zo three
two five six seven six Z three

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two five six zero seven, first
come, first serve. We'll get you

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on the list, and then we
will see you Saturday night at the Rex

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Theater. So that's gonna be cool. I have not been inside the Rex

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Theater in I don't even know how
long it's been. I've I've been,

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I've been there before, but I've
not been inside that building in a very

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long time. So I'm really looking
forward to it, and Jenny and I

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are looking forward to going to see
the band live and going to see you

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there as well. Whoever you are
who calls in to claim that six three

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two five six seven, you can
also text me at six one seven nine

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one seven four four seven six.
You have to call to get the tickets.

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I'm just saying if you want to
interact on the show, you can

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text me at six one seven nine
one seven four four seven six. I'm

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on social media at Matt Connerton.
You can email me Matt at Matt Connerton

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dot com and of course, you
can interact Undo Pine in the Facebook live

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chat and we will say hello everybody
in there in a moment. But the

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best thing to do so that we
can here and enjoy your dulcet tones is

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to give us a call at six
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three two five O six Z seven. Coming up today on the show,

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we do have a guest skyping in
in the second hour, Kevin Hammer from

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the Great State of New York.
He is he's going to be skyping in.

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I think I think he was on
with us maybe five or six weeks

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ago, and we had a pretty
interesting conversation and I kind of felt like

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we just barely scratched the surface.
So I said to Jenny, you know,

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Jenny does all the she books all
the guests for the show, and

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and she's just been doing a fantastic
job, so many great guests and keeping

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the schedule nice and full, which
is wonderful. And I said to Jenny,

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I said, you know, I
feel like this so much more I

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could talk to him about. So
anyway, he'll be uh, he will

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be skyping in in the second hour
New Merrow Dose here on Matt Connerton Unleashed

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Uh let's see a few other things
going on. So it is a Thursday.

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I keep having to remind myself what
date is because we had a Monday

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holiday. Uh, it is Thursday, right, Yes, today is Thursday,

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which means tonight is Trivia Night at
the Hop. Not Broderick Lange host

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it now every Thursday night starting at
seven pm. If you are going to

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participate, I suggest that you call
ahead or communicate with Kenny at the Hop,

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not via social media. But the
smartest thing to call, I mean,

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the smartest thing to do is to
just call and reserve a spot because

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those spots do fill up very very
quickly, and they've got a lot of

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big events going on for you know, they've got a lot planned for Pride

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Month, of course, Happy Pride
Month. It is June first, after

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all, also to Juneteenth will be
coming up to and you know they always

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do something big for that too,
So there's a lot going on at the

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Hop, not this month, so
we will keep you a Pride. We

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had to get Kenny back in here
on a usually usually Monday is the one

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day of the week that he can
actually make it in. I don't know

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if he's ever been on the show
on a different day of the week Monday

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and Tuesday is their their weekend.
Yeah, so lots going on at the

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hop knot m Also, I want
to make sure everyone knows Jenny just had

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another article published in The Mighty at
the Mighty dot com. This one is

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titled when access to medication and treatment
is a matter of life and death.

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So we've been sharing that out and
of course you can find it on her

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social media, but also if you
go to the Mighty dot com, it

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is there as well, so make
sure you check that out. That just

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that just went up today actually just
a little bit before the show, that

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was published, So very very good. Um. Also, U DJ Reckless

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is back from his h little mini
tour there to Nashville and he is going

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to be I wanted to mention this. He's going to be at the six

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o three Bar and Grill tonight and
it's it's open decks and it's interesting.

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So I've never heard of this concept
until he mentioned it one day that he

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was on the show. It's kind
of like open Mic Night, but with

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turntables and your DJ. So open
decks are back tonight. Sign ups at

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eight forty five. There will be
oh okay, there will be a Rev

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seven and SRT one thousand here,
so come through whether you want to dance,

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DJ or just drink. So that
is tonight, turn Thursday. Open

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decks every week at the six o
three Barn Grill. The flyers says start

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sign ups start at eight thirty and
the party starts at nine. Well,

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anyway, go see DJ Reckless tonight
if you get a chance at you know,

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you could go to the hop Knot. You know what you could do.

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This is what you should do.
Men tell you what you should do,

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and I have no right to be
your social planner, but I'm gonna

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do it. Anyway. You should
go to the hop Knot for trivia night,

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and then when you get done at
the hop Knot you should go to

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the six o three Barn Grill and
DJ Reckless. Just a suggestion, all

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right. I want to uh,
we'll say hello to everybody in the Facebook

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live chat, and then we've got
to get updated on the debt limit.

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We are down to the wire,
my friends. It passed the House,

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but it might actually get stuck in
this. I can't believe it might actually

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get stuck in the Senate. We'll
see, but we'll talk about it.

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In a minute, but let me
give the contact info one more time if

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you'd like to join us on the
show today six O three two five six

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seven six three two five O six
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them gets uh two spots on the
guest list for stand up audio Saturday night

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at the Rex Theater. Six three
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play another one of their songs too. Later in the show, at the

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top of the hour, when we're
going to bring in our guest, Kevin

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Hammer, I'll play I'll play another
one of their songs. A lot of

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great feedback on yesterday's show. People
really like that band. You can text

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me at six one seven nine one
seven four four seven six. You can

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interact an opine in the Facebook live
chat, hit me on social media at

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Matt Connerton or email me Matt at
Matt Connerton dot com. Let's see who

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we have in the Facebook live chat. Jay fed joins us from the great

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state of Vermont says, good afternoon
everyone. Ronda Favero says California in the

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house. Hello, Rhonda. Jenny
of course is in the chat and says

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shalom peeps. Isaac Banks, soho
if I remember correctly is from Greensboro,

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North Carolina. Says hello, hashtag
Matt good afternoon, Good afternoon, Michael

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Broadhurst, what's up? And have
you been busy? Now? I don't

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know who this Michael Broadhurst person is. I'm not aware of them, but

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apparently Isaac Banks is using the Facebook
live chat as a conduit to communicate with

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this person, which is fine.
Melanie Liberty from the Great State of Vermont

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joins us in the chat room.
Hello, Melanie, Melanie says, who's

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Jenny scheduled to yell at today?
Just kidding kind of? No? No,

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no, uh no, one's no
one's getting yelled at. Uh No.

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I assume Melanie's referring to Monday's show. We had Steve laughy here and

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that the conversation did get animated,
but nobody was yelling and it was no.

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I thought it was a great discussion. I like Steve a lot.

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I would probably never in a million
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he's he's pretty conservative and I'm not, so we just disagree on too

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many things. But um, but
but I do like him, and you

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know, he's very open to um
having dialogue. He's he's you know,

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he's not everyone is in the sense
that, um, most people, and

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I think social media has done a
lot to reinforce this. Unfortunately, most

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people can't really have mature dialogue and
discussion where they disagree about things without you

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know, without resort to insults,
and you see what goes on on social

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media. So I love being able
to have guests on whom I disagree with

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about things and see things differently,
but we can still have a you know,

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a high level dialogue about it.
And um, yeah, I was

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really I was very happy with Monday's
show. And Steve had a great time

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too. He really liked it.
He's already chomping at the bit to come

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back, so which is nice.
I mean, he doesn't have a chance

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in hell of winning the nomination,
obviously, but uh, but but he

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is a Republican candidate for the presidency. Uh. Let's see, Shannon is

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on the line. High Shannon,
Oh yeah, what's up? I said,

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olmahla miyamo mateo. Uh uh como
a stas or something. I took

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three years of Spanish, Shannon,
I remember very little of it. Well,

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hey, but you get you d
Olah, that's a good start.

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Well, yeah, because you kind
of need to know. Good morning,

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good afternoon, and good evening when
when you're like in Mexico. Huh,

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and it's not hard too, you
know. Bueno no dress startists no,

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Yeah, yeah yeah, buenose stuff
yeah, Bueno deals four on Retrospectrum Radio.

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Yes, yes, Okay, should
I wait for this CARLTI party,

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I'll call you. Uh, you
don't have to, Okay, you got

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an answer. The song played and
you said it was I don't was it

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simple minds? Do you remember the
answer or I can't. I don't know,

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Shannon. I I have no idea, no clue either, all right,

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Shannon. The weird thing about it
was the first chords of it.

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The first nine chords of the song
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I can't remember that either. So
good night, good evening, sweet tums,

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everybody, all right, Shannon,
thank you for the call. All

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right? Bye bye? Yeah,
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all right. Six laughing at I
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but Melanie said something funny. Six
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Somebody was just hovering around in the
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and uh, I think, uh, I think they're on the wrong floor

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and they were just like, oh
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says, Shannon gets the tickets.
No, well, she could have them

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if she wanted them, and she
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did not express any interests in the
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line for you. Six zo three
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Ron can take her. Oh.
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a singer dancer and he is in
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Ah. Yes, uh, let's
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no, I did not yell in
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no, I mean the conversation did
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I thought, I thought it was
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show. Like I said, I
like, I like talking with people with

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whom I disagree. Uh and uh, you know, and we can disagree

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but but still have a really good
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um, I'm frustrated about this.
Uh. So you know, obviously we've

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been talking a lot about the debt
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and we are so close, so
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got a deal, of course,
over the course of last weekend. I

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know it's already Thursday, but last
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they came to an agreement on the
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they're negotiators did and they did get
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to be very interesting to see what
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example, Congressman Hip Roy of I
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he would have loved to have defaulted, I guess, and others. There

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are some of the House who are
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they're going to try to oust McCarthy. That will be interesting to see.

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I don't think they're going to be
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you know, then who do they
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frustrated about. So I've been I
was very relieved to see this finally,

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because it looked like there was a
possibility it wouldn't even get out of the

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Rules Committee in the House, which
would be scary. But it did,

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and I think I don't remember the
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but I think it more votes in
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then onto the Senate, Onto the
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in the Senate. The problem well, first of all, the first inklings

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of a problem with remember Tim Kaine, Senator Tim Kaine. We don't really

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hear about him that much, but
we heard about him a lot. Of

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course in twenty sixteen. He was
Hillary Clinton's running mate. He was a

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potential perspective vice president, and then
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But apparently he's upset over the pipeline
that Joe Mansion got put into the

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bill, which was necessary to get
get everybody on board. It was part

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of the deal. So he was
threatening to try to have an amendment tacked

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onto this, onto this bill for
the to raise the debt the debt limit.

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And we don't have time for that, dude, I'm not kidding.

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We don't have time. It's the
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Janet Yellen said June fifth, that's
the x state. Now, it could

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move, It's moved before. Obviously, you don't always know exactly from one

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day to the next in terms of
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going out, that can change.
It's a bit fluid. So you know,

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at one point it was June first, and then it was revised to

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June fifth. So it could be
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or it could be revised a little
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happening. Usually, when Janet Yellen
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new X state in terms of when
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it gets revised forward and it's like, oh, we're even more out of

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time than we thought that we were. We are really close to the edge

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here. That's what usually happens.
Now we have this I just saw pop

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up on the Hill dot com.
Senate Defensehawks hold up debt ceiling bill in

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protest of cuts and lack of Ukraine
money. Um, it looks like this

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may have a harder time getting through
the Senate than it did getting through the

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House. And this is not acceptable
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so we're look, I I know, I was very pessimistic for a while.

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I thought Biden was going to have
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fourteenth Amendment. Then I became I
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did arrive at a deal over the
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that he would be able to get
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and you know, good on him. I know I've I've been very

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critical of him, and I have
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you know, he got it.
He got it done, and both he

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and the President did did pretty well
in some ways here and both want a

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little bit more respect for me,
to be honest with you, McCarthy,

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because he delivered on what he said
that he would and he did get it

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through the House. And I was
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he did it. And as far
as Biden and Steve Rochetti, who I

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believe was the chief negotiator for the
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anything. They didn't gain anything through
this deal necessarily. I mean, they

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kind of did if you really want
to get into the weeds, which I

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don't want to right now because we
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they they did better than I thought
they would at protecting a lot of the

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legislative agenda that the President had gotten
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and the Biden signed signed into law. I thought they were going to have

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to let a lot of that go, and I was surprised, actually,

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to be honest with you, that
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they did. So I think that, um, I think it's kind of

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a to the extent that there are
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kind of a win for both of
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you could argue that both House Speaker
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I think they both in some ways
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was saying last week that I thought
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that I thought McCarthy was too weak
and powerless as a House Speaker because he

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had to give away so much just
to get that job. Both of them,

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to me, in my eyes,
outperformed my very low and very pessimistic

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expectations of them. So I will
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problem. So here's what's happening right
now with this again. This is from

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the Hill dot Com. Senate Defensehawks
hold up debt ceiling bill in protest of

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cuts and lack of Ukraine money.
It says here a group of Senate Republican

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defensehawks are holding up a passage of
legislation to raise the debt ceiling in protest

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of a one percent across the board
spending cut that would go into effective.

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Congress doesn't pass it's spending bill on
time, and the pressure Senate leaders who

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agree to move a funding measure for
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a few hours after the debt limit
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passed the House with more than three
hundred votes, which again was a higher

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number than was expected. Defense minded
Republican senators are threatening to hold up the

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bill to protect the Pentagon. A
Republican senator familiar with floor discussions said there

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are quote people who are willing unquote
to hold up the bill unless leaders commit

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to moving a defense supplemental later this
year. But the source added, there's

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quote a pathway to getting this done
by midnight. Unte Now there's more to

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this, but listen, whether you're
these Republicans who want to amend something in

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the bill, or whether you're a
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end of things and you're not happy
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or you're Tim Caine who's mad about
a pipeline that you don't think should

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have been in there. Suck it
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I cannot put this in any starker
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anyone whose feelings are hurt, who
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present form. But we don't have
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you start, if you hold this
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in the Senate, here's what happens. The bill gets amended in the Senate,

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and then it has to go back
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amended version has to pass the House. We don't have time. The X

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state is June five. Today is
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this anymore. This has to be
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I want this done. And let
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in the way of this getting done
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midnight tonight in past so it can
go to the President's desk anyone who stands

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in the way of that needs to
be at the earliest possible opportunity. In

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other words, their next election,
they need to be primaried, and they

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need to be out. They need
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possible. I don't care if if
they've done other great things. I don't

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care if there's someone I respect,
not that I respect many of these people

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in Congress, to be honest,
I mean there's a few, but and

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I'm not necessarily Look, I understand
there's some people who are going to vote

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against it on principle because there are
some people who are trying to have it

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both ways, and they kind of
can't have it both ways. Senators who

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are saying, well, just like
there was some in the House, we're

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saying, well, I can't in
good conscience vote for this because I don't

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agree with it. But I also
know that we can't default. But there's

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enough people who are going to vote
for it that I can vote against it

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out of protests for the things in
the bill that I don't agree with,

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and it's still going to pass regardless
of how I vote. So I can

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make a stand, a principled stand
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on our full faith and credit it
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Okay, I will accept that.
But what is unacceptable is if anyone actually

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manages to attach an amendment to this
forcing it to be sent back to the

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House. That is not acceptable because
that you know, we're all ready It

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shouldn't have gone this far to begin
with. Okay, we shouldn't be this

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close to default to begin with.
But you pushed this back to the House.

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Oh, we do not have time
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This is from the Hill dot com. The ink on the agreement is

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barely dry, but some GOP senators
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around the cap on defense spending,
which falls well short of what they think

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is needed, by moving a supplemental
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Ukraine. Senator Susan Collins, Republican
of made, the ranking member on the

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Appropriations Committee and Defense Appropriations Subcommittee,
said quote, we are exchanging language,

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and I certainly hope that we can
get there with a commitment to bring the

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Appropriations bill to the Senate floor so
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trigger the automatic one percent across the
board indiscriminate cut. Quote. The debt

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Limit Bill would implement and across the
board one percent cut on discretionary spending if

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Congress fails to pass the annual spending
bills by the end of the calendar year,

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which some Republicans worry that Democrats could
use as leverage in future negotiations since

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many social welfare programs are funded by
mandatory spending, and while the defense budget

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will otherwise be capped below the rate
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allies also want Senate Majority Leader Mitch
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to promise to move a defense up
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for Ukraine, she said. Quote. The second part would be a commitment

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for a defense supplemental an emergency defense
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to make these commitments in a quote, how do you say, colleaguey,

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colleague, I don't know that word, uh something cll O guy, or

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I'm sorry, Q collogue, I
don't know that word. Or to make

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a statement on the floor, she
said, I'll have to look up that

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word after or maybe some if somebody
wants to look that up for me in

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the chat room. I don't know
that term. I love learning new words.

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Republican senators, including Collins and Senators
Lindsey Graham and Tom Cotton Oh his

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name, came upon the show Monday
and Dan Sullivan, took to the Senate

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floor today to vent their concerns about
the defense spending caps in the bill.

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Senate Republican leader Mitch McConnell yesterday called
the defense caps said the defense caps are

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the worst part of the deal.
Graham fumed that there is quote not a

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penny in this bill to help Ukraine
defeat Putin unquote. I think that's all

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separate. Though he noted that Ukrainian
forces are about to launch an offensive to

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push back Russian troops and declared,
quote, we need to send a clear

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message to Putin that when it comes
to your invasion of Ukraine, we're going

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to support the Ukrainians to ensure your
loss. If we don't do that,

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then we're going to snatch defeat out
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said, under the spending caps negotiated
by Biden and McCarthy, the defense budget

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will grow only half as fast as
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even more real cuts to defense unquote. He also argued, though one percent

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cut to penalize lawmakers for not passing
spending bills on time, quote means defense

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spending will go down if the sequester
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Democrats will get more welfare spending while
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said, quote the bill poses immortal
risk to our national security by cutting our

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defense budget, which I cannot support, as grave dangers gather on the horizon

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unquote. So to these folks,
I would say this, can you even

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begin to comprehend the grave danger that
is posed if we don't get this taken

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care of right now and we end
up defaulting. So if you want to,

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you know, Susan Collins, she
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If it's a separate bill, fine, but you cannot. You cannot

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attach amendments to this. We don't
have time for it. And I cannot

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believe that we could be in a
situation where and I'm going to try to

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remain cautiously optimistic, but I cannot
believe that we could be in a situation

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where this got through the House,
thank goodness, but now it might actually

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get caught up in the Senate and
we just don't have time, don't have

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time for it. And I'm trying
to look to see just quickly if there's

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any anything else on this that we
need to be worried about. I mean,

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I still think, I still think
this is going to get done.

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I do, But yeah, c
NBC is reporting defense spending levels threatened to

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delay Senate plan to fast track debt
ceiling bill. Yeah, that's not good.

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Six three two five six seven is
the number. If you'd like to

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chime in, six zo three two
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too. We've got two tickets for
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Saturday. If you're interested in going, give me a call at six zero

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three two five six seven six zero
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the band and come say hello to
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That evening show starts at seven thirty. It's an evening with a stand up

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audio, and I think it is
going to be a really good time.

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Also, coming up at the top
of the hour, we're gonna be joined

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by we're gonna be joined by Sorry, I just got distracted by something I

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saw Kevin Hammer. Um, this
is a little bit. Uh yeah,

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we'll look at this quickly. I
just I think this is interesting media.

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00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:14,880
It's reporting that Trump turns on the
term woke and says half the people can't

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00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:21,400
define it. That's an interesting observation
because he's right. People do have a

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00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:25,440
difficult time defining it, says you're
former president Donald Trump, who has long

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00:34:25,519 --> 00:34:30,760
bemoaned woke culture and complained about it
at length, does not like the term

434
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:35,280
woke anymore, as he explained during
his appearance on the campaign trail in Iowa,

435
00:34:35,519 --> 00:34:37,679
Trump, who spoke at the West
Side Conservative Club, stated quote,

436
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:40,280
I don't like the term woke because
I hear the term woke, woke,

437
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:44,559
woke, and it's just a term
they use. Half the people can't define

438
00:34:44,559 --> 00:34:46,800
it, they don't know what it
is. Unquote. Well, that's true.

439
00:34:51,679 --> 00:34:57,079
Some of you might have seen there's
a viral video of conservative who wrote

440
00:34:57,280 --> 00:35:00,559
a book about wokeism, who went
asked in an interview to define it.

441
00:35:01,519 --> 00:35:06,719
She couldn't even define it, but
she wrote a book about it. It's

442
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:10,519
baffling. It says here, after
taking a question from a recent high school

443
00:35:10,519 --> 00:35:16,519
grat asking about current school policies and
attacks on censorship. Trump responded with a

444
00:35:16,559 --> 00:35:21,360
position in agreement with what is outlined
in the Don't Say Gay Law. The

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00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:25,199
so called Don't Say Gay Law spearheaded
by Florida governor and fellow presidential hopeful Ronda

446
00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:30,639
Santis. Despite his recent souring on
the term, Trump has used it on

447
00:35:30,679 --> 00:35:35,280
several occasions to criticize corporate executives,
among others, including DeSantis. While Trump

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00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:40,159
claims that the term woke may be
overused and rendered meaningless, DeSantis has decided

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00:35:40,199 --> 00:35:45,159
to campaign on it all but declaring
war on it, embracing it as a

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00:35:45,199 --> 00:35:49,920
catch all term for liberal opinions,
policies, and activism. Trump's change of

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00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:52,519
opinion might have more to do with
his dislike of DeSantis more than anything,

452
00:35:52,679 --> 00:35:58,480
and he's clearly moved on to more
articulate ways to set himself apart from his

453
00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:02,960
GOP rival. By the way,
you know what, nobody ever mentions about

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this so that term. Sometimes these
words they enter the American lexicon and then

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00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:15,840
the meaning changes. Sometimes it'll start
out meaning one thing to a certain group

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00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:19,360
of people, and then another group
of people were take we'll take a term

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00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:22,400
like that and sort of co opt
it, and then it becomes a completely

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00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:25,519
different thing. Because when I first
started, I don't know how many years

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00:36:25,519 --> 00:36:29,920
ago. Now that the word has
been around for a while, it might

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00:36:30,039 --> 00:36:36,760
seem like it's really new because now
we just hear it's so much, But

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the term actually has been around for
a while. I remember, I think

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00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:45,800
the first time, who does that
song? There's a song called stay woke?

463
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:51,000
Is that childish Gambino? I think
that was the first time I ever

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00:36:51,039 --> 00:36:54,920
heard that song. I mean that
that term stay woke. And then the

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next time stay Okay, I think
that's yeah, childish gambino. Um,

466
00:37:07,079 --> 00:37:15,800
where did that come out? Oh
it's actually the song is called Redbone,

467
00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:23,519
but it's childish Gambino. Yeah,
that came out in twenty seventeen. So

468
00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:28,239
that was the first time I ever
heard that stay woke. Um. But

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then I started hearing it. So
this this will show you, if you

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00:37:30,639 --> 00:37:34,880
don't realize this, how much the
meaning of the term has changed. The

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00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:42,000
next time I saw that term applied
was I found a political song parody.

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00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:45,400
You know I love a good political
song parody. There's there's one on YouTube

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00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:50,159
that I found around that time called
Alex Jones is so woke, and I

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00:37:50,159 --> 00:37:57,519
started seeing that term being used as
woke to describe sort of conspiracy theorist people

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00:37:57,599 --> 00:38:06,159
whom they were being called woke because
they they had woken up to what's really

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00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:09,559
happening in the world and these conspiracies
that they believe in. So that was

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00:38:09,599 --> 00:38:16,920
considered woke. But then the meaning
of the term began to drastically change.

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00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:22,440
And I think when somebody like Ron
de Santis uses it, Governor Ron de

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00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:25,440
Santis of Florida, he seems to
be using it, you know, he

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00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:30,960
talks about defeating wokeism and whatnot.
He seems to be using it to mean

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00:38:30,079 --> 00:38:36,559
I guess anyone who has who's you
know, someone like well, someone like

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myself who you know, I consider
myself an LGBTQ plus ally, so I'm

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00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:47,519
sure he would consider me to be
woke. Or someone who believes in not

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00:38:47,559 --> 00:38:52,920
just being uh not racist, but
anti racist. Someone who who believes that

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00:38:53,159 --> 00:38:59,000
we still have some problems in that
area, I guess would be considered woke.

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00:38:59,079 --> 00:39:01,079
I mean, the terms mean different
things to different people. I remember

487
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:05,280
a discussion one day in the chat
room about it. So even now,

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00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:07,920
the term means different things to different
people, but I but it is difficult

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to define even for people who use
the term consistently. But I had another

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00:39:15,079 --> 00:39:22,880
thought about about Governor DeSantis, who
I think is actually in New Hampshire today

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and campaigning. He was in Iowa, I believe right now he is in

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the great state of New Hampshire and
h He's welcome to come see me on

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00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:35,880
the show, but I'm probably to
woke for him, but he's I'd be

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00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:40,320
fascinating if he were to visit our
wonderful sponsor, the Hopknot, but he

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00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:46,440
might not be comfortable there either.
But I I really I haven't heard anyone

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00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:54,480
point this out. I'm kind of
fascinated at and I don't know if this

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00:39:54,920 --> 00:40:00,559
necessarily started with Trump or not,
but but De Santis seems to be really

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00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:06,480
all in on this the way the
Republican Party has changed. And I'm gonna

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probably ask our guest, Kevin Hammer, He's going to be joining us at

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the top of the hour. He's
a Republican. He'll be skyping in from

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00:40:15,559 --> 00:40:19,599
the state of New York. I'll
be asking him how he feels about this.

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But I've noticed that you sear the
term big tent. You sear people

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00:40:27,679 --> 00:40:30,440
in the Republican Party talking about wanting
to have a big tent Republican party.

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And if you haven't heard that,
if you don't know that term, it's

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00:40:32,679 --> 00:40:37,639
probably because no one ever uses it
anymore. But what big tent used to

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00:40:37,679 --> 00:40:43,440
mean was the idea that you can
have a Republican party where you've got a

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00:40:43,519 --> 00:40:47,599
lot of ideas and a lot of
different attitudes within it. You agree on

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00:40:47,679 --> 00:40:51,519
a lot of the big stuff,
but you can have some disagreement on some

509
00:40:51,599 --> 00:40:55,559
issues too. But as long as
you agree on the big stuff, you

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00:40:55,599 --> 00:41:01,679
know, fiscal conservatism and i don't
know, strong defense, you know things

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00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:08,800
that traditional conservatives really care about before
they got hyper fixated on some of the

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00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:15,119
things that Ronda Santis seems to be, you know, pro business and all

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00:41:15,159 --> 00:41:16,360
that. As long as you believe
in the big stuff, you can have

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00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:22,079
all kinds of disagreements on the not
so big stuff and you're still welcome because

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00:41:22,119 --> 00:41:28,760
you want a party that's dynamic and
a lot of different ideas. But de

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00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:36,280
Santis, to me, what he
consistently does, and he did this long

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00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:38,639
before there was even an inkling that
he might run for president. This has

518
00:41:38,639 --> 00:41:43,440
always been his thing. But now
he just keeps ramping it up and ramping

519
00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:47,599
it up. Now that he's a
presidential candidate, he doesn't seem to want

520
00:41:47,639 --> 00:41:54,360
a big tent. He wants a
small tent. Because there was a time

521
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when there were a lot of Republicans
who would talk about wanting to bring more

522
00:42:00,599 --> 00:42:05,880
people into the party and wanting to
you know, wanting to get Democrats to

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00:42:06,039 --> 00:42:09,760
come over and either switch parties or
to support them. You know, we

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00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:14,480
used to hear about the Reagan Democrats, for example, Democrats who decided to

525
00:42:14,559 --> 00:42:21,000
vote for Ronald Reagan, um and
uh. And there used to be that

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00:42:21,079 --> 00:42:24,199
kind of attitude of you know,
we've we've got room for a lot of

527
00:42:24,199 --> 00:42:29,239
different kinds of people as long as
you believe in the same as long as

528
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:31,280
we agree on the big stuff,
come join us, or if you're not

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00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:35,280
going to join the party, at
least at least vote for us some of

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00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:38,119
the time, you know, and
almost a welcoming in that sense. It

531
00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:43,559
was it was a wanting to grow
the party and have a big tent.

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00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:47,440
And now it's like and it's not
just a santis. I feel like the

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00:42:49,199 --> 00:42:52,840
I feel like there's a lot of
um. I feel like there's a lot

534
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:55,679
of it in the party. It's
not only a Ronda Santis thing, but

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00:42:55,800 --> 00:43:01,679
de Santis seems to be the most
intense about it. Where you know,

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00:43:02,079 --> 00:43:08,039
most Republicans running for office, if
you if you say to them, if

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00:43:08,079 --> 00:43:12,039
you have a conversation, maybe you're
in an elevator with them, and they

538
00:43:12,119 --> 00:43:14,559
give you the elevator pitch or that's
what you're looking for, and you say,

539
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:20,199
listen, I'm a Democrat or I'm
a left leaning independent, or I'm

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00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:23,000
a Republican. But the party kind
of pushed me away. That's where I

541
00:43:23,039 --> 00:43:29,280
am. Why should I vote for
you? And then they give you the

542
00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:31,239
pitch, well, here's why you
should vote for me. I believe in

543
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:34,400
this, this, this, and
this, and we can probably agree on

544
00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:37,119
this, and here's why I think. I think I should have your vote,

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00:43:37,119 --> 00:43:38,320
and I would ask for your vote, right, and kind of a

546
00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:42,840
friendly kind of you know, because
politics is a lot of it's just salesmanship,

547
00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:49,519
right, So they're going to try
to sell them sell themselves to you.

548
00:43:49,519 --> 00:43:51,599
You approach them, you say why
should I vote for you? And

549
00:43:51,599 --> 00:43:53,280
then they tell you why they think
you should vote for them, and you

550
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:55,360
know, come, come, come
vote for me, Come support me.

551
00:43:58,199 --> 00:44:02,320
But I feel like like if I
were trapped in and trapped I feel like

552
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:07,400
if I found myself in an elevator
with Ron de Santis and I said to

553
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:13,119
him governor, respectfully, UM,
why why do you think I should Why

554
00:44:13,159 --> 00:44:15,679
do you think I should support you? You know, I don't. I'm

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00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:20,960
not into the transphobia and all the
anti LGBTQ stuff and you know, uh,

556
00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:25,440
so you know, we certainly disagree
on that. Um and uh.

557
00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:30,760
And I'm not into this what you've
been doing in Florida with uh. It's

558
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:34,639
almost like you're seems like you're trying
to erase black history. I don't.

559
00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:37,280
I don't understand all of that.
I don't get it. So so we

560
00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:43,119
we have some fundamental disagreements. But
why why do you think I should vote

561
00:44:43,119 --> 00:44:46,440
for you? You know, in
spite of that, maybe there's maybe there's

562
00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:50,800
other reasons why I should vote for
you. Anyway, I feel like Ron

563
00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:55,320
De Santis would look at me and
say, well, I don't want your

564
00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:59,239
vote. Get away from me.
You're you're you're woke, You're like,

565
00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:02,079
uh, you're like some some liberal, woke person. I don't want your

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00:45:02,159 --> 00:45:07,639
vote. You're not a real American
you're you're a terrible person. Get get

567
00:45:07,639 --> 00:45:09,360
the hell away from me. I
don't I don't want your vote. That's

568
00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:13,039
what I feel like. I mean, I'm sure he wouldn't literally say that,

569
00:45:13,079 --> 00:45:15,920
but that would be the vibe.
And that's something that I think has

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00:45:16,039 --> 00:45:22,199
changed about the Republican Party in a
broad sense. I think the days of

571
00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:24,440
the welcoming, big tent, let's
bring people in, I think that's kind

572
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:30,119
of gone. I think now it's
it's more of an abrasive sort of you're

573
00:45:30,119 --> 00:45:32,480
either with us or you're against us, and if you're against us, it's

574
00:45:32,519 --> 00:45:39,960
because you're an American and you actually
like trans people and you're just a terrible

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00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:43,880
person, and we hate you and
don't vote for us, and we'll just

576
00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:45,800
have enough people who do like us
and we don't need you. I feel

577
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:49,760
like that's what it's kind of turned
into, and I think De Santis is

578
00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:54,239
really the epitome of that. By
the way, there are, to be

579
00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:58,679
fair, there are many Republicans who
are not like what I just described I'm

580
00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:02,119
talking about. I'm talking about my
impression of the Republican Party in a broader

581
00:46:02,199 --> 00:46:08,800
sense. But you know, there
are certainly Republicans. There are Republican candidates

582
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:15,239
for the presidency who are not like
that, okay, or prospective candidates like

583
00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:17,320
our governor here in New Hampshire,
Chris Sunu. He's not like that.

584
00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:21,920
He reminds me. People wonder why
cling to Sinunu. I'll tell you why,

585
00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:24,000
because he reminds me of when the
Republican Party really was a big tent

586
00:46:24,079 --> 00:46:29,000
party, because he wants a lot
of people in his tent. You know,

587
00:46:29,599 --> 00:46:31,880
I don't feel like if I had
a conversation with Governor sun and I

588
00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:35,599
said to him, Hey, I
really disagreed with you on this and this

589
00:46:35,679 --> 00:46:38,079
and this, why should I vote
for you? I feel like he would

590
00:46:38,079 --> 00:46:40,639
actually say, well, Matt,
here's why I think you should vote for

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00:46:40,679 --> 00:46:45,159
me. Whereas, again, I
feel like if I had the exact same

592
00:46:45,199 --> 00:46:46,760
interaction with Ronda Santis, I think
he would look at me and say,

593
00:46:47,159 --> 00:46:51,039
well, you're some woke liberal get
away from me. I hate you,

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00:46:52,519 --> 00:46:58,159
basically, and I think that's too
bad. And by the way, if

595
00:46:58,159 --> 00:47:02,599
you take Trump out of the equation
that that attitude does make him unfortunately,

596
00:47:02,639 --> 00:47:06,559
it would make to Santis again,
if Trump weren't in his way, it

597
00:47:06,599 --> 00:47:12,880
would make to Santis a very strong
nominee. I think well as a strong

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00:47:13,039 --> 00:47:15,800
candidate for the nomination in the sense
of getting through the primaries, because I

599
00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:21,800
do feel like the overall vibe of
the Republican Party has changed kind of to

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00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:25,199
what he is. You know,
very lots of grievance, lots of anger,

601
00:47:28,119 --> 00:47:32,920
lots of resentment towards people who aren't
with them. I again, unfortunately,

602
00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:37,000
I feel like there's more of the
party that feels that way than has

603
00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:44,559
the old school, big tent attitude. And knowing that, I do think

604
00:47:44,599 --> 00:47:47,000
he'd I do think he'd sail to
the nomination if Trump were not in his

605
00:47:47,079 --> 00:47:52,039
way. But I also think it
would make him a terrible general election candidate

606
00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:58,760
because again, once you're in the
general election, if you're the Republican nominee,

607
00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:01,159
you want to try to peel off
some Democrats, You want to get

608
00:48:01,199 --> 00:48:06,639
as many independents as you can.
The Republicans are going to vote for you

609
00:48:06,639 --> 00:48:07,920
no matter what, but you also
want to try to peel off people who

610
00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:10,440
made it maybe you don't agree with
you on everything, and I don't think

611
00:48:10,519 --> 00:48:15,000
Ron de Santis is interested in doing
that. I think Ron de Santis,

612
00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:17,639
as a general election candidate, would
say, well, we got to turn

613
00:48:17,639 --> 00:48:22,440
out as much of our base as
possible because the people who don't agree with

614
00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:27,599
me, I'm not interested in convincing
them because I hate them. I genuinely

615
00:48:27,679 --> 00:48:31,039
I just hate them. That's what
I think would be his Again, he

616
00:48:31,079 --> 00:48:37,000
wouldn't literally say that, but that
would be the vibe. That would definitely

617
00:48:37,039 --> 00:48:43,840
be the vibe he'd be putting out. All right, Oh, let's do

618
00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:47,119
this. We're gonna take a quick
break. I'm gonna play another song from

619
00:48:47,119 --> 00:48:51,920
the band Stand Up Audio. They
were our guests here yesterday in studio,

620
00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:53,840
but they're gonna be playing Saturday night
at the Rex, and they've got two

621
00:48:53,880 --> 00:49:00,360
tickets to give away, so if
you call in you can have those tickets.

622
00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:01,000
Jenny and I are going to be
there, so you can come say

623
00:49:01,039 --> 00:49:04,079
hi to us and see the band, and it's gonna be a lot of

624
00:49:04,079 --> 00:49:08,559
fun. But I'm gonna play another
song from Stand Up Audio. And then

625
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when we come back from break,
we're gonna have Kevin Hammer. He's gonna

626
00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:16,159
be skyping in from the Great State
of New York. He as a Republican

627
00:49:16,239 --> 00:49:20,880
candidate and he's been on the show
before and looking forward to chatting with him

628
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:22,599
again and I'm gonna ask him about
what I was just talking about, because

629
00:49:22,639 --> 00:49:27,960
I'm curious he had his opinion,
especially whereas he's in an interesting space because

630
00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:31,239
he's a former Democrat. He crossed
over to the Republicans, but doesn't seem

631
00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:36,639
particularly conservative. He strikes me as
kind of moderate, so which makes sense

632
00:49:36,679 --> 00:49:40,079
because he hasn't always been a Republican, I suppose. So I'm curious he

633
00:49:40,119 --> 00:49:44,199
had his opinion on all this,
and see who he likes and the presidential

634
00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:49,639
race as far as a prospective nominee
and so forth. So we'll be talking

635
00:49:49,639 --> 00:49:52,679
with him, but let's listen to
this, and then we're gonna show some

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thousand, twenty three, and joining
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647
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you doing? Good? Welcome back. It's nice here from you. It's

648
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a pleasure to be back. Um
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649
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650
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654
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655
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656
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three two five six seven. So Kevin,

657
00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:00,599
of course you are in New York
State. Did you have a good

658
00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:07,719
Memorial Day weekend? Yes? Absolutely, spent the weekend with family, which

659
00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:10,599
was amazing. I hadn't had the
opportunity to do that in a while.

660
00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:17,280
So yeah, it was great,
beautiful weather, and yeah it was it

661
00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:22,960
was great, very good, very
good. Now refresh our our memories or

662
00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:27,239
explain for newer listeners who might not
have heard your previous appearance. I think

663
00:52:27,239 --> 00:52:30,159
it was about what six weeks ago? You are? You're still currently a

664
00:52:30,159 --> 00:52:36,480
candidate? Is that correct? Yes? I am currently a candidate for Schenectady

665
00:52:36,519 --> 00:52:40,199
City Council. Okay, very good, very good. And I forget had

666
00:52:40,239 --> 00:52:45,159
you held public office before or or
would this be your first? No,

667
00:52:45,199 --> 00:52:50,199
I have not held public office before. Um, this isn't my first run

668
00:52:50,239 --> 00:52:54,880
for office. However, I did
run for council in UM twenty twenty one.

669
00:52:55,440 --> 00:53:00,159
Okay, right right now, where
are you are? Do you get

670
00:53:00,199 --> 00:53:05,400
to see? Do presidential candidates ever
come through there? I mean, I

671
00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:10,239
know New York is pretty much a
blue state as far as the presidency goes,

672
00:53:10,280 --> 00:53:15,920
so I wouldn't imagine. Well,
then again, maybe for the primaries

673
00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:17,960
you get you get visited there.
I mean, do you see anybody coming

674
00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:22,760
through there? Probably not this early? Ould imagine. Um, no,

675
00:53:22,840 --> 00:53:25,639
not that i've personally attended any events. But I do know that candidates have

676
00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:31,280
come through before. The closest place
that we would see that if they were

677
00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:35,400
to come through, would probably be
Albany, the capital of New York State.

678
00:53:35,519 --> 00:53:37,559
I'm not that far from there.
Yeah, so I do know in

679
00:53:37,639 --> 00:53:42,000
the past the presidential candidates have made
a stop in Albany, New York.

680
00:53:42,360 --> 00:53:45,800
Okay, okay, is there anybody? I mean, the field is getting

681
00:53:46,599 --> 00:53:53,320
crowded for the Republicans as far as
the nomination, and it's about to get

682
00:53:53,400 --> 00:53:57,800
even more crowded. I think Chris
Christie is about to announce, Mike Pence

683
00:53:57,880 --> 00:54:00,400
is about to announce. I mean, it's it's I still think Trump is

684
00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:05,360
going to be the nominee. But
is there anybody that you like in that

685
00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:08,239
field as a Republican? Is there
anybody that you're you're looking at as and

686
00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:12,639
as a potential? Uh? I
mean, I know it's early, but

687
00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:19,119
anybody got your attention? Yeah,
it's it is very early. Um,

688
00:54:19,480 --> 00:54:24,320
for for sure. Obviously we have
some familiar faces who have you know,

689
00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:29,000
thrown their hats into the wing.
Yeah. Um. So what I'm doing

690
00:54:29,159 --> 00:54:31,719
now is, you know, as
people declare, I sort through I read

691
00:54:31,840 --> 00:54:37,039
up on them. Um, learn
more about them. Uh recently, for

692
00:54:37,119 --> 00:54:43,119
example, I've been um reading up
on and I know it's common and I,

693
00:54:43,360 --> 00:54:49,000
uh it's a vic I believe uh
Lamaswame. Yes, yes, Um,

694
00:54:49,039 --> 00:54:52,159
Now that's not any kind of like
he's the way I'm going by any

695
00:54:52,159 --> 00:54:55,280
means. It's just he's one of
the more unknown. So I have been

696
00:54:55,800 --> 00:55:01,199
learning a bit more about him.
I am completely open to be honest.

697
00:55:01,519 --> 00:55:07,440
Um, I might have some leanings
here and there personally, but I'm not

698
00:55:07,559 --> 00:55:13,800
someone who puts any specific political figure
on a pedestal. Yeah, and you

699
00:55:13,840 --> 00:55:19,920
know that's just that's just not who
I am. I vote my values over

700
00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:24,280
a specific individual. Yeah, the
vek Ramaswamy. My dad is a big

701
00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:29,360
fan of his, really likes him. Um, I don't. I don't

702
00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:31,760
know too too much about him.
But Monday on the show, we had

703
00:55:31,760 --> 00:55:37,000
a gentleman here, Steve Laughey,
who is also a candidate who you know,

704
00:55:37,760 --> 00:55:42,000
I mean, he's he's done some
appearances on news Max and he was

705
00:55:42,320 --> 00:55:45,880
talking to Tony Shanella from Patch here
in nh And so he's getting a little

706
00:55:45,880 --> 00:55:49,199
bit of media attention, but not
much. And I you know, he

707
00:55:49,239 --> 00:55:52,280
has no no chance obviously, but
but interesting guy. So he was with

708
00:55:52,360 --> 00:55:57,360
us on Monday, but we had
an off air conversation. He was talking

709
00:55:57,400 --> 00:56:00,360
to Jenny and I about he would
love to for us to get the veak

710
00:56:00,440 --> 00:56:06,519
Ramaswami on the show and have the
two of them debate, which we might

711
00:56:06,519 --> 00:56:08,199
be able to pull that off.
I don't know that would be that would

712
00:56:08,199 --> 00:56:13,719
be pretty interesting. But now so
you're obviously you're in New York State,

713
00:56:13,840 --> 00:56:20,400
but you're are you not a not
a Trump guy? It's not so much

714
00:56:20,440 --> 00:56:24,360
about um not being a Trump guy
or being a Trump guy. Um.

715
00:56:24,719 --> 00:56:32,400
You know, I did vote Trump
in twenty twenty over Biden, which I

716
00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:37,440
admit I would absolutely do again.
More and more as I observe what's happening

717
00:56:37,480 --> 00:56:42,159
with Biden, it's not even about
party. It's about the fact that we

718
00:56:42,199 --> 00:56:46,159
are we have a leader on the
world stage who is continuing to decline,

719
00:56:46,360 --> 00:56:52,480
both physically and mentally. And we
see this very clearly. Compare how he

720
00:56:52,519 --> 00:56:55,320
speaks today to how he was even
speaking ten years ago. And this concerns

721
00:56:55,320 --> 00:57:01,280
me more than party affiliation, more
than anything. UM. So, if

722
00:57:01,280 --> 00:57:06,239
it's if personally, if it is
uh, you know, Trump versus Biden,

723
00:57:06,320 --> 00:57:10,039
definitely Trump. Um as far as
the primary itself, like I said,

724
00:57:10,239 --> 00:57:17,320
I am learning everything I can about
about the candidates. Obviously, Um,

725
00:57:19,559 --> 00:57:22,199
when it comes to Trump, one
of the most one of the big

726
00:57:22,239 --> 00:57:27,599
things is is that he would be
entering in as pretty much well would be

727
00:57:27,639 --> 00:57:30,480
considered a lame up. Um.
You know that's something to be you know,

728
00:57:30,559 --> 00:57:35,679
something to be considered. But at
the moment, like I said,

729
00:57:35,679 --> 00:57:37,239
I'm just putting out there, I
like a lot that Rohn de Santis has

730
00:57:37,280 --> 00:57:44,519
said and done, um in regards
to Florida, and I'm continuing to like

731
00:57:44,760 --> 00:57:49,719
what I hear a little bit more
about Ramaswame and other candidates as well.

732
00:57:50,320 --> 00:57:54,360
Now let me ask you, Kevin, and I think this. I'm particularly

733
00:57:54,360 --> 00:57:59,280
interested to get your perspective on this
because I know that you're you're someone who

734
00:57:59,400 --> 00:58:01,360
you know, you you were a
Democrat, you you crossed over and became

735
00:58:01,360 --> 00:58:06,719
a Republican, so you've it's not
you're You're not someone who's been you know,

736
00:58:06,760 --> 00:58:09,199
a Republican for a super long time
or anything. So I just I'm

737
00:58:09,239 --> 00:58:13,960
curious, um, if you if
you have any any perspective on this.

738
00:58:14,039 --> 00:58:19,719
I was saying before the break,
I was talking about DeSantis, and I

739
00:58:20,480 --> 00:58:24,239
feel like, um, uh,
you know, and I'm older than you

740
00:58:24,280 --> 00:58:31,239
are, so I might be drawing
from something that um that that you haven't

741
00:58:31,280 --> 00:58:36,920
really observed. But I I feel
like the Republican Party I was talking earlier

742
00:58:36,920 --> 00:58:40,199
about how it used to be more
of a big tent party where there was

743
00:58:40,280 --> 00:58:45,239
this idea that they wanted to bring
more people in. So, for example,

744
00:58:45,280 --> 00:58:47,000
in a general election, of course, you know, if you're a

745
00:58:47,039 --> 00:58:50,960
Republican candidate, Republicans are going to
vote for you, but you want to

746
00:58:51,119 --> 00:58:52,519
uh, whatever the office is,
you want to bring in. You know,

747
00:58:52,559 --> 00:58:57,639
if you can peel off some Democrats
or maybe if you're running for president,

748
00:58:57,679 --> 00:59:00,519
maybe you hope in the general you
can peel off some disaffect to Biden

749
00:59:00,639 --> 00:59:02,480
voters even and you want to grab
the independence. Of course, that's where

750
00:59:02,480 --> 00:59:07,079
elections are really won, and loss
is among the independence and um. But

751
00:59:07,320 --> 00:59:13,760
I feel like DeSantis is really his
whole vibe is not. I don't feel

752
00:59:13,800 --> 00:59:16,239
like he's interested in having a big
tent or trying to bring people in.

753
00:59:16,679 --> 00:59:23,000
I think he pushes people away because
he's constantly talking about defeating leftism, defeating

754
00:59:23,079 --> 00:59:29,679
liberalism, defeating wokeism. He's not. He's not. There's no there's nothing

755
00:59:29,719 --> 00:59:32,679
welcoming there. It's all just to
me. It comes across as you either

756
00:59:32,760 --> 00:59:38,760
agree with me on all of this
stuff already or or I just don't want

757
00:59:38,800 --> 00:59:43,559
anything to do with you and I
don't want your vote. Do you understand

758
00:59:43,559 --> 00:59:45,079
what I'm saying? And again,
I you know, you're younger than I

759
00:59:45,119 --> 00:59:50,719
am, so you might not have
seen what I've seen. But I just

760
00:59:50,760 --> 00:59:55,360
feel like in terms of what the
Republican Party used to be now, because

761
00:59:55,440 --> 00:59:59,320
I think there's a large swath of
the party that's like that. I think

762
00:59:59,360 --> 01:00:02,199
De Santis is just kind of that, but on steroids. I mean,

763
01:00:02,239 --> 01:00:07,320
he's just really he's the most extreme
example of it where it's just like,

764
01:00:07,719 --> 01:00:09,960
you know, if you're not already
with me, Bob, forget you.

765
01:00:10,000 --> 01:00:15,639
I don't want your vote. Does
that make sense? I mean I understand

766
01:00:15,840 --> 01:00:20,199
m Yeah, it makes sense,
And I understand your perception in regards to

767
01:00:20,199 --> 01:00:24,920
that. Absolutely. I personally don't
feel that way at the moment right now,

768
01:00:25,679 --> 01:00:29,880
you know, as I observed to
santists, I actually so one of

769
01:00:30,000 --> 01:00:31,719
obviously one of the one of the
most common things that you know, we

770
01:00:31,840 --> 01:00:36,119
like to say in regards to politicians
is tell us about tell us what you're

771
01:00:36,159 --> 01:00:38,559
for, not necessarily what you're against, right, you know, we need

772
01:00:38,599 --> 01:00:42,800
to hear both of those things.
However, when it comes to the santists,

773
01:00:42,840 --> 01:00:45,039
I think he is focusing on issues
that do concern people, and I

774
01:00:45,079 --> 01:00:50,079
actually know a number of Democrats who
feel just as concerned. For example,

775
01:00:50,119 --> 01:00:53,159
where we have seen from the leftists
over sexualization when it comes to children,

776
01:00:53,960 --> 01:00:59,360
I personally no, I don't.
I personally do not support you know,

777
01:00:59,400 --> 01:01:05,400
like ragtime story hours for kids,
children partaking in drag. As someone who's

778
01:01:05,400 --> 01:01:07,719
attended many drag shows in his life, trust me, I've never in my

779
01:01:07,800 --> 01:01:13,119
life seen one that was appropriate for
children. I don't want. I don't

780
01:01:13,159 --> 01:01:16,320
think that small children should be learning
about sex. I have obviously when it

781
01:01:16,400 --> 01:01:20,039
gets to a certain point, they
learn about the physical changes in their body.

782
01:01:20,079 --> 01:01:23,599
Absolutely, But to actually, some
of these books that are being found

783
01:01:23,639 --> 01:01:28,079
in schools can't even be read at
board meetings. And we've seen that time

784
01:01:28,079 --> 01:01:30,639
and time again, not just examples
here, and they're scattered of where a

785
01:01:30,639 --> 01:01:34,960
parent or a community member will get
up and start to read one of these

786
01:01:34,960 --> 01:01:38,880
books that can be found in a
local school library and the school board will

787
01:01:38,920 --> 01:01:44,440
shut them down once they start reading
the content of the book. DeSantis has

788
01:01:44,599 --> 01:01:47,000
phoned in on this, and I
think that it's something that people across the

789
01:01:47,039 --> 01:01:51,599
board actually care about, because when
I leave party out of it, and

790
01:01:51,639 --> 01:01:54,079
I talk to even Democrats about,
hey, this is a book that has

791
01:01:54,119 --> 01:01:59,719
been found in schools throughout the country
and it talks about anal sex, anal

792
01:01:59,719 --> 01:02:01,800
play. I think all this stuff
and it's the graphic detail. And this

793
01:02:01,880 --> 01:02:06,519
is found even in some middle schools. I don't even think it should be

794
01:02:06,519 --> 01:02:09,559
in high schools. They are like
wow, and I'll have and I've sent

795
01:02:09,599 --> 01:02:14,360
the videos for them to listen to
where parents will go and you know,

796
01:02:15,800 --> 01:02:17,800
read it to the school board and
they'll get shut down by the school board

797
01:02:17,880 --> 01:02:21,440
for reading it. And also there
was one example where there was a drag

798
01:02:21,440 --> 01:02:24,280
performance at a school and the mother
showed up to the school board meeting wearing

799
01:02:24,320 --> 01:02:29,559
the exact same outfit as the drag
queen and they considered that inappropriate attire.

800
01:02:29,679 --> 01:02:31,119
So it's interesting that it was inappropriate
for her to wear that to a school

801
01:02:31,119 --> 01:02:37,239
board, but it was not inappropriate
for this drag queen to perform in on

802
01:02:37,320 --> 01:02:43,960
school property. So I actually I
don't think that Ron DeSantis is off the

803
01:02:44,079 --> 01:02:46,760
Mark. I think people feel that
way because maybe how he comes at it

804
01:02:46,800 --> 01:02:51,400
and how aggressive it also how it's
being how it's being approached by the mainstream

805
01:02:51,440 --> 01:02:54,039
media. But I really don't think
he's that far off the Mark. I

806
01:02:54,119 --> 01:02:58,800
don't. Yeah, I just don't
see. Um, I think you know

807
01:02:58,840 --> 01:03:02,960
the examples you're giving. Look,
I'm sure that I'm sure there are things

808
01:03:02,960 --> 01:03:06,599
that go on that not all of
us would approve of. But I think

809
01:03:06,719 --> 01:03:12,000
I strongly suspect that what tends to
happen is people take very specific things and

810
01:03:12,039 --> 01:03:15,119
then blow them up and offer an
impression that well, this is what's always

811
01:03:15,159 --> 01:03:19,840
going on, and that schools are
sexualizing children in this and that. Um.

812
01:03:19,960 --> 01:03:24,360
I think that if if that wasn't
being exaggerated and kind of exploited.

813
01:03:24,920 --> 01:03:28,559
Because I'm not a as you can
tell, I'm not a big culture war

814
01:03:28,679 --> 01:03:30,920
guy. UM, I think that, Uh, I think there'd be a

815
01:03:30,960 --> 01:03:37,559
lot more Republicans, uh, really
upset about that. Whereas you've got mainstream

816
01:03:37,599 --> 01:03:40,440
Republican candidates like you know, we
had Steve Laughy on the show on Monday,

817
01:03:40,440 --> 01:03:45,639
and he, you know, he's
not really interested in talking about drag

818
01:03:45,719 --> 01:03:49,599
queens and drag shows and everything.
It's not not his thing. He's just

819
01:03:50,119 --> 01:03:52,280
you know, he doesn't have much
um yeah, I mean he did express

820
01:03:52,320 --> 01:03:55,639
it. He's very pro life and
you know he's as a Christian and so

821
01:03:55,719 --> 01:04:00,519
forth. But um, but he
doesn't really have much interest in talking about

822
01:04:00,519 --> 01:04:03,280
the culture war stuff in a broader
sense. It's just he seems to think

823
01:04:03,320 --> 01:04:08,280
it's kind of a solution in search
of a problem. Melanie in the chat

824
01:04:08,360 --> 01:04:12,840
room has a question. She says, what about beauty pageants with toddlers and

825
01:04:12,920 --> 01:04:17,440
young kids? Do you think that
sexualizes kids? I get that question all

826
01:04:17,480 --> 01:04:20,880
the time, and it's a very
common response, So I can say that

827
01:04:20,960 --> 01:04:27,480
I consider myself, you know,
one to be very logically consistent. Absolutely,

828
01:04:27,519 --> 01:04:30,519
I think that beauty pageants for children
should be outlawed. I think they

829
01:04:30,559 --> 01:04:34,400
should absolutely, one hundred percent be
illegal. I don't understand why they're not

830
01:04:34,440 --> 01:04:40,119
already, given the history of beauty
pageants for children, what we've seen going

831
01:04:40,159 --> 01:04:43,800
back decades, the abuse that we've
seen, I really don't understand how they

832
01:04:43,800 --> 01:04:46,760
can still be legal. I would
absolutely support making them illegal. To be

833
01:04:46,800 --> 01:04:50,000
honest, I don't even think that
children should be allowed to in a Hudo's

834
01:04:50,079 --> 01:04:54,679
restaurant. When I say that,
I am conservative in that regard. I

835
01:04:54,719 --> 01:04:58,760
absolutely am, and I am consistent
in that logic. Yeah, I understand.

836
01:04:58,840 --> 01:05:01,159
I mean, well, you're certainly
consistent, I would say, I

837
01:05:01,159 --> 01:05:04,760
mean, this is the libertarian in
me speaking, But I don't want Look,

838
01:05:04,760 --> 01:05:08,880
I have the luxury of being able
to speak from a position of not

839
01:05:08,920 --> 01:05:11,679
having any children. I don't have
any kids on my own. But if

840
01:05:11,719 --> 01:05:15,039
I did, I don't think i'd
I'd be thrilled about the government telling me

841
01:05:15,480 --> 01:05:20,320
whether I could bring my child into
udors or to a drag show or whatever

842
01:05:20,400 --> 01:05:26,039
I'd want to be. I'd want
to have the freedom freedom an important word,

843
01:05:26,280 --> 01:05:30,000
to make those choices myself. So
do you think this should this is

844
01:05:30,000 --> 01:05:32,199
an attack? I'm just curious.
Do you think then a parents should have

845
01:05:32,280 --> 01:05:36,360
freedom to bring their child into other
things like a burlesque show or a strip

846
01:05:36,400 --> 01:05:40,400
show, which, by the way, some of these stuff when these beauty

847
01:05:40,440 --> 01:05:45,039
pageants, these girls are wearing some
items that strippers wear in drag shows as

848
01:05:45,079 --> 01:05:48,239
well. So I mean, do
you think that then that parents should have

849
01:05:48,280 --> 01:05:54,440
that right to expose their child to
a strip club or tom or like I

850
01:05:54,440 --> 01:05:58,039
said, to a burlesque show or
something in that of that nature. So

851
01:05:58,320 --> 01:06:00,960
what I would say, is this, I don't think. I don't think

852
01:06:00,960 --> 01:06:03,079
that's appropriate. I don't I don't
think a parents should be bringing their their

853
01:06:03,199 --> 01:06:06,360
kid too. And by the way, I think I think child beauty pageants

854
01:06:06,400 --> 01:06:11,519
are creepy too. I I agree, Um, uh no, I don't

855
01:06:11,519 --> 01:06:14,199
think. Uh. I mean that
certainly wouldn't be a choice that I would

856
01:06:14,199 --> 01:06:17,039
make as a parent if I had
children to to do that. Um.

857
01:06:17,079 --> 01:06:19,599
But what I would also say is, and again this is kind of the

858
01:06:19,599 --> 01:06:25,079
libertarian in me speaking a bit um
more more more libertarian than my liberal side.

859
01:06:25,119 --> 01:06:28,119
I think maybe maybe both. However
you want to look at it.

860
01:06:28,119 --> 01:06:30,800
But but uh no, but I
but I think I would want the freedom

861
01:06:30,800 --> 01:06:34,920
to make those choices myself. Now, if I thought, if you could

862
01:06:34,920 --> 01:06:40,159
show me evidence that there was some
sort of say, for example, you

863
01:06:40,199 --> 01:06:43,920
said, well, Matt, there's
data and statistics that show that this is

864
01:06:43,960 --> 01:06:48,320
going on constantly. You have you
have adults bringing their their little children to

865
01:06:48,400 --> 01:06:53,280
strip clubs and exposing them to that, and this is going on everywhere.

866
01:06:53,360 --> 01:06:56,519
And you know, look, I
understand Florida is a little bit of a

867
01:06:56,559 --> 01:07:00,480
different world, but in no offense
any Floridians listening. But if you if

868
01:07:00,519 --> 01:07:03,480
you could show me that this was
some sort of a national issue, then

869
01:07:04,000 --> 01:07:06,920
I might say, well, jeez, well maybe we do need a law

870
01:07:08,000 --> 01:07:12,599
for that if this is out of
control. But but I'm very something that

871
01:07:12,679 --> 01:07:16,599
I'm so let me let me just
finish this one one thought. Something that

872
01:07:16,599 --> 01:07:20,880
I've always been really consistent about is
uh, when it comes to making laws

873
01:07:20,960 --> 01:07:27,760
about anything, UM, I always
have two questions. One is are we

874
01:07:27,800 --> 01:07:32,159
making a law about a legitimate issue
or is this just something to placate the

875
01:07:32,280 --> 01:07:39,000
the fears or concerns of a small
minority over something that isn't actually really happening

876
01:07:39,079 --> 01:07:43,519
much. Um. That's that's the
other question. And of course another question

877
01:07:43,559 --> 01:07:46,239
I always have is, um,
is this going to actually solve anything?

878
01:07:46,679 --> 01:07:50,679
Um? But it is it enforceable? I should say more precisely, but

879
01:07:51,280 --> 01:07:57,800
um, So again, if you
if you see prior sort of pre I

880
01:07:57,800 --> 01:08:00,159
don't want to say pre culture wars, that's always been a thing, but

881
01:08:00,280 --> 01:08:04,840
prior to all this um stuff about
drag shows and whatnot, I don't remember

882
01:08:06,679 --> 01:08:12,800
hearing a lot about parents bringing their
kids to drag shows to begin with.

883
01:08:13,400 --> 01:08:17,079
Um, except for of course things
like uh, you know, the story

884
01:08:17,119 --> 01:08:21,800
time type events, which again,
if if I were a parent, I

885
01:08:21,880 --> 01:08:25,920
might not partake in that, but
I don't. I'm not a fan of

886
01:08:25,960 --> 01:08:29,479
making laws about it either, because
one thing I would want to do if

887
01:08:29,479 --> 01:08:31,479
I was a parent, I would
want to raise my kid to be accepting

888
01:08:32,119 --> 01:08:34,920
and respectful of people who are different
than they are. That would be very

889
01:08:34,920 --> 01:08:39,840
important to me. But I went
on a little longer than I intended to.

890
01:08:41,279 --> 01:08:45,000
I apologize, Scott in true in
true libertarian fashion. No, actually,

891
01:08:45,039 --> 01:08:49,279
I enjoy I enjoy my libertarian friends. I really do. Um.

892
01:08:49,760 --> 01:08:54,840
They I what I appreciate having in
my life. Um, even though I'm

893
01:08:54,920 --> 01:08:58,520
I'm firmly conservative and you know,
like where my values are. I do

894
01:08:58,640 --> 01:09:01,840
enjoy my libertarian friends espec. Because
they will challenge me the most. And

895
01:09:01,960 --> 01:09:05,439
I will say this on like many
on the left, when the libertarian challenges

896
01:09:05,439 --> 01:09:10,359
me, they still manage to remain
respectful. So I enjoy that. I

897
01:09:10,560 --> 01:09:15,199
enjoy having them in my life to
keep me honest and keep me consistent.

898
01:09:15,479 --> 01:09:18,840
So I let me let me start
there. I have a to you that

899
01:09:18,880 --> 01:09:21,920
are trying to get there, like
we'll make you a libertarian eventually. I'm

900
01:09:21,920 --> 01:09:25,720
like, well, I've yet,
I've yet to see a room full of

901
01:09:25,720 --> 01:09:30,239
libertarians agree on more than two things. Basically, what is it guns in

902
01:09:30,279 --> 01:09:34,840
marijuana? Um? But so I
guess that question for you is, um,

903
01:09:34,840 --> 01:09:38,439
why do you need something to be
a national issue for it to be

904
01:09:38,479 --> 01:09:44,960
illegal? For example, if if
sexual abuse of children was statistically incredibly rare,

905
01:09:45,720 --> 01:09:48,119
um, you know, overall,
I still think it should be illegal.

906
01:09:48,279 --> 01:09:51,640
I would still think of rape statistically
being there, I would still want

907
01:09:51,680 --> 01:09:54,880
it to be illegal. To me, agree, I don't need something to

908
01:09:54,920 --> 01:09:58,920
be an overwhelming occurrence in society to
look at it and say this is wrong

909
01:09:58,960 --> 01:10:00,640
and it should be illegal. We
shoul should have laws against it. So

910
01:10:00,800 --> 01:10:05,039
that, I guess is my response
to a position when people do say that

911
01:10:05,079 --> 01:10:08,239
to me is I don't see it
as a national issue. I don't see

912
01:10:08,239 --> 01:10:11,479
it happening every day statistically, I
don't see it as relevant. I was

913
01:10:11,520 --> 01:10:15,159
like, well, I don't need
something to necessarily be happening, you know,

914
01:10:15,600 --> 01:10:19,199
on a large scale for me to
say, hey, this should be

915
01:10:19,319 --> 01:10:24,640
illegal because it is damaging. And
in regards to stats, because I want

916
01:10:24,680 --> 01:10:28,640
to touch on that quick. So
I actually have moved away from saying statistics

917
01:10:28,680 --> 01:10:33,439
prove statistics show. I actually have
moved more towards stats imply or suggest.

918
01:10:33,560 --> 01:10:36,600
And the reason why is when you
look at where we get all these stats

919
01:10:36,640 --> 01:10:42,039
from, whether it repolls specific scientific
research, generally, you're always going to

920
01:10:42,119 --> 01:10:44,920
find a flaw. First of all, has it been repeated, has has

921
01:10:44,920 --> 01:10:49,560
it been peer reviewed? How what
size, what demographics were focused on?

922
01:10:49,640 --> 01:10:54,279
What was the sample size? There's
always some kind of flaw and stuff.

923
01:10:54,279 --> 01:10:58,239
So I believe that's why I believe
they suggest and they can point us in

924
01:10:58,279 --> 01:11:00,880
a good direction. And I reference
stats myself. Don't get me wrong,

925
01:11:01,239 --> 01:11:06,039
but I've been trying to move in
a in a direction away from statistics show

926
01:11:06,119 --> 01:11:14,800
and statistics prove to the statistics suggest
more more more in that, Yeah,

927
01:11:14,840 --> 01:11:19,680
I under I understand what you're saying, Um are you? Um? It's

928
01:11:19,720 --> 01:11:24,239
interesting to me that so I might
have my perception of you might have been

929
01:11:24,279 --> 01:11:28,319
a little a little off, I
thought, because you were talking about being,

930
01:11:28,520 --> 01:11:31,279
uh, consistently conservative, and my
perception of you from our last conversation

931
01:11:31,399 --> 01:11:35,000
was you were a little bit more
moderate. But what was I wrong?

932
01:11:35,119 --> 01:11:38,039
Or I mean, have you become
working No? No, no, no,

933
01:11:38,079 --> 01:11:41,359
okay, So my roots, um
on, a lot of my values

934
01:11:41,359 --> 01:11:46,000
are consistently conservative. Um. In
in specifically, I guess in origins to

935
01:11:46,199 --> 01:11:51,000
you, you know, rooted in
more in more of a conservative um approach.

936
01:11:51,359 --> 01:11:56,840
Yeah, um, but that doesn't
you know, that doesn't mean what

937
01:11:57,039 --> 01:12:00,680
I am, what I most assuredly
am is open to two discussions. Yeah.

938
01:12:00,840 --> 01:12:05,439
Um. You know, we all
have issues probably that we'd be moderate

939
01:12:05,479 --> 01:12:09,000
on, regardless if we're on the
left or the right. Even if you

940
01:12:09,079 --> 01:12:13,359
consider ourselves the most liberal, the
most conservative, there's probably an issue out

941
01:12:13,359 --> 01:12:17,239
there that you know that compared to
someone else, there's someone even more to

942
01:12:17,279 --> 01:12:20,640
the right of us, so we'd
be considered moderate compared to them, or

943
01:12:20,640 --> 01:12:24,479
more to the left, so you'd
be considered, you know, moderate compared

944
01:12:24,520 --> 01:12:30,359
to them. I know, I
know a few Democrats that compared to a

945
01:12:30,479 --> 01:12:32,560
lot of the people on the left
today, well, the loudest voices,

946
01:12:32,840 --> 01:12:38,840
they might as well be conservative,
right and so so it really one of

947
01:12:38,880 --> 01:12:43,199
my one of my good friends who
in college was very much soap soap fox

948
01:12:43,279 --> 01:12:46,640
feminists, still still my best friend
to this day. It's funny because when

949
01:12:46,680 --> 01:12:49,399
I talk to her about a lot
of the discussions and a lot of stuff

950
01:12:49,439 --> 01:12:56,239
happening um with those that identify as
as feminists today, she's like, I

951
01:12:56,279 --> 01:13:00,359
feel, in some ways conservative comparatively, and she most assuredly it's not so.

952
01:13:00,600 --> 01:13:03,199
So I guess it's a matter of
gauging that. It's it's where you're

953
01:13:03,199 --> 01:13:08,319
it's where you're standing and looking at
it from, because I do. I

954
01:13:08,359 --> 01:13:11,279
have friends who are conservative who say
to me, oh, I consider you

955
01:13:11,359 --> 01:13:14,800
moderate. Then I have friends that
have said, oh, no, you're

956
01:13:14,840 --> 01:13:17,439
a hardline conservative in the number of
ways. So it's a matter of perspective.

957
01:13:17,439 --> 01:13:20,039
I guess, oh absolutely. I
mean, politics is so much more

958
01:13:20,359 --> 01:13:25,880
complex and people are so much more
complex than than the labels that we use

959
01:13:26,199 --> 01:13:29,319
to put on them, and that's
that's part of what makes it also fascinating.

960
01:13:29,800 --> 01:13:31,680
One obvious thing of course too,
you know, uh, you are

961
01:13:32,319 --> 01:13:36,199
married to a man, so obviously, I mean, if you were really,

962
01:13:36,319 --> 01:13:40,680
you know, totally conservative. You
know, a lot of conservatives oppose

963
01:13:41,600 --> 01:13:45,199
same sex marriage. I've I've always
uh, you know, I think we

964
01:13:45,279 --> 01:13:48,079
might have talked about that last time
you were on in New Hampshire. We

965
01:13:48,119 --> 01:13:50,159
were touch on it a little bit. Yeah, yeah, we were ahead

966
01:13:50,159 --> 01:13:54,079
of the curve on that here in
New Hampshire. We were one of the

967
01:13:54,119 --> 01:14:00,560
states that legalized same sex marriage before
the Supreme Court ruling that legalized it nationally

968
01:14:00,720 --> 01:14:03,199
so, um, which you know
I'm proud of. I always say I

969
01:14:03,239 --> 01:14:08,119
was pro marriage equality before it was
cool to be pro marriage equality. Um.

970
01:14:08,319 --> 01:14:11,359
I remember, I actually remember having
a conversation with my mother, and

971
01:14:11,439 --> 01:14:14,359
my mom's very liberal, but I
remember having a conversation with her when I

972
01:14:14,399 --> 01:14:16,319
was a kid about just asking her, you know, how come how come

973
01:14:16,359 --> 01:14:20,119
to two guys or two women couldn't
get married? And she's kind of like,

974
01:14:20,159 --> 01:14:24,479
well, you know, someday,
someday maybe they will, uh and

975
01:14:24,680 --> 01:14:27,920
uh, you know, and then
we did get there. I don't recall

976
01:14:28,000 --> 01:14:30,680
having that conversation with my father,
and I think he might have had a

977
01:14:30,720 --> 01:14:33,720
different response if I had that conversation
with him, But I didn't remember having

978
01:14:33,720 --> 01:14:38,760
that conversation with my mom. Um. By the way, I think Jenny

979
01:14:38,840 --> 01:14:42,039
agreed with you on something here.
Jenny said, I think, oh,

980
01:14:42,159 --> 01:14:45,359
regarding kids and strip clubs. Strip
clubs, she said, no, it

981
01:14:45,399 --> 01:14:48,680
shouldn't be allowed. I was brought
to one at the age of nine.

982
01:14:48,800 --> 01:14:53,279
I can still tell you every detail. Uh it was my birth mother.

983
01:14:53,720 --> 01:14:59,279
Give me the law trauma overload.
I think though whether or not there's a

984
01:14:59,359 --> 01:15:02,960
law about that specifically, though,
I would imagine that I mean obviously there's

985
01:15:03,239 --> 01:15:10,199
laws against child abuse and neglecting things
like that, and reckless endangerment. You

986
01:15:10,199 --> 01:15:13,560
know, I'm sure that that that
would fall under one of under one of

987
01:15:13,600 --> 01:15:17,600
those if someone had uh. You
know, keep in mind, we we

988
01:15:17,800 --> 01:15:21,159
historically, we have a long history, not just in this not just in

989
01:15:21,199 --> 01:15:26,479
this country, um, but around
the world. We've we've generally for a

990
01:15:26,479 --> 01:15:28,680
long time, we've been consistent in
the fact that, yes, when it

991
01:15:28,680 --> 01:15:31,680
comes to children, we are we
do tend to be more strict in our

992
01:15:31,760 --> 01:15:36,279
laws, and we're willing to apply
the law more, um, regardless of

993
01:15:36,279 --> 01:15:43,680
political affiliation. UM often because we
acknowledge, you know, children do not

994
01:15:43,720 --> 01:15:47,600
fully develop. It's our job to
protect them. It's our job to nurture

995
01:15:47,680 --> 01:15:51,199
them in the best way possible,
to not expose them to potentially harmful stuff,

996
01:15:51,199 --> 01:15:55,760
to try to not expose them,
um, I'll permit them to be

997
01:15:55,800 --> 01:15:59,560
exposed to it. So I think
that's another thing when I discussed this,

998
01:15:59,680 --> 01:16:03,640
especially with my libertarian friends, is
I always highlight the fact that we always

999
01:16:03,960 --> 01:16:11,920
approach uh children, uh, issues
with children differently um by law than we

1000
01:16:12,000 --> 01:16:16,600
do with issues with adults. Yeah, most, I mean, you know,

1001
01:16:16,640 --> 01:16:19,920
I'm sort of I always say I'm
center left, but with a dose

1002
01:16:20,000 --> 01:16:24,880
of libertarian, a pretty heavy dose
in some ways, but most most full

1003
01:16:24,920 --> 01:16:29,800
on libertarians. I know they don't
want any laws for they don't even want

1004
01:16:29,800 --> 01:16:32,239
to have to send their kids to
school, you know, they want they

1005
01:16:32,319 --> 01:16:36,680
want to be able to do whatever. Um, which is which is interesting.

1006
01:16:36,840 --> 01:16:40,199
Where are you on public education?
By the way, That's something I

1007
01:16:40,199 --> 01:16:44,079
don't think we touched on at all. Uh last time we talked. I

1008
01:16:44,119 --> 01:16:46,439
mean, are you no, we
didn't well, I mean in the general,

1009
01:16:46,600 --> 01:16:50,600
I mean I really I actually do
support um school choice. I will

1010
01:16:50,640 --> 01:16:56,000
admit um. You know, It's
just it's something that I've more recently started

1011
01:16:56,039 --> 01:17:00,359
to delve in a bit more.
I myself, I do not have children.

1012
01:17:00,239 --> 01:17:03,800
We do have a godson, though. Yeah, he is five years

1013
01:17:03,800 --> 01:17:10,399
old. He's going to turn six
in September. He's basically one of the

1014
01:17:10,439 --> 01:17:15,079
biggest blessings in our lives. And
since then, I've started to think about

1015
01:17:15,159 --> 01:17:17,960
education more, you know, more
recently, you know, him being five,

1016
01:17:18,039 --> 01:17:21,199
he just entered school last year,
you know, this this past year,

1017
01:17:21,279 --> 01:17:25,680
so he's going on six years old, and so I've thought about education

1018
01:17:25,760 --> 01:17:28,319
more and more when I talked with
it, when I talked to his mother

1019
01:17:28,720 --> 01:17:30,479
and talked to her about what's going
on in school. And obviously, you

1020
01:17:30,479 --> 01:17:34,199
know, he's in a public school, as most children are, and so

1021
01:17:34,239 --> 01:17:38,520
I'm hearing those concerns and I'm thinking
about it more than I ever did before.

1022
01:17:40,000 --> 01:17:43,199
I at this point when I look
at it, I support school choice.

1023
01:17:43,439 --> 01:17:48,359
Um parents want to home school,
I absolutely support that. I think

1024
01:17:48,520 --> 01:17:54,359
when it comes to public schools,
the problem is is that we're seeing just

1025
01:17:54,479 --> 01:17:58,439
more and more of the public schools
failed children. And you know, they

1026
01:17:58,520 --> 01:18:00,560
keep saying funding, funding, but
there's been a lot of funding over the

1027
01:18:00,640 --> 01:18:03,920
years. You know, maybe not
where it should have been at times.

1028
01:18:04,439 --> 01:18:09,880
But the thing is is like,
I don't know if something keeps failing,

1029
01:18:10,399 --> 01:18:14,520
you know, it's that it's that
definition of insanity, right, trying the

1030
01:18:14,560 --> 01:18:17,680
same thing over and over again,
expecting different results. And that's honestly sometimes

1031
01:18:17,680 --> 01:18:23,640
how it feels when it comes to
public education. So I guess where I'll

1032
01:18:23,720 --> 01:18:29,399
leave that is it's something that I
continue to educate myself on and your different

1033
01:18:29,439 --> 01:18:34,079
opinions, you're you know, your
different stories, and look at the stats

1034
01:18:34,079 --> 01:18:38,039
as they come out. I know
a big discussion has been you know,

1035
01:18:38,119 --> 01:18:42,520
common Core was that something that really
helped. At the end of the day,

1036
01:18:42,920 --> 01:18:46,239
what schools are exposing children too.
The fact that we do see children

1037
01:18:46,239 --> 01:18:50,239
and we even had Biden very much
say, you know, you're very much

1038
01:18:50,479 --> 01:18:55,800
you know put that on that that
opinion that we're seeing in schools more that

1039
01:18:55,880 --> 01:19:00,720
these aren't your children, they are
our children kind of mindset that terrifies me

1040
01:19:00,800 --> 01:19:03,920
more than anything. The if we
get to a point where government, government

1041
01:19:04,319 --> 01:19:11,239
funded schools are telling parents very openly, and we've seen teachers in school board

1042
01:19:11,239 --> 01:19:13,640
meetings say this MONDI, yes,
you're going to point out that you've been

1043
01:19:13,640 --> 01:19:18,920
sprinkled through that things tend to grow. Fringe becomes the center eventually if it's

1044
01:19:18,960 --> 01:19:23,720
not addressed. Is this idea that
your children are not your children, they're

1045
01:19:23,760 --> 01:19:28,520
more our children, the society's children. That is terrifying to me. When

1046
01:19:28,560 --> 01:19:35,520
I hear that even suggested, it
really terrifies me. Somebody's Melanie is asking

1047
01:19:35,560 --> 01:19:41,079
in the chat room although did I
don't know, did you I didn't hear

1048
01:19:41,119 --> 01:19:45,399
you address did you mention homeschooling specifically
if you support that? I did I

1049
01:19:45,479 --> 01:19:50,520
say that, I said that I
do support the homeschooling option. However,

1050
01:19:53,479 --> 01:19:56,920
it's how it's done there are.
Actually, So there are a few things

1051
01:19:57,039 --> 01:20:00,880
I think are important when it comes
to public school that I think where children

1052
01:20:00,880 --> 01:20:04,000
do benefit from. For example,
one of the big things of socialization,

1053
01:20:04,439 --> 01:20:10,520
right, children do need to be
exposed to environments outside of their families.

1054
01:20:10,520 --> 01:20:13,760
They need to be able to interact
with children there aren't even their siblings.

1055
01:20:14,640 --> 01:20:18,840
I feel that that is essential to
the healthy development of a child. That's

1056
01:20:18,920 --> 01:20:23,720
why. Actually, and I know
a few families in my area, a

1057
01:20:23,760 --> 01:20:27,640
few parents who are homeschooling, and
what they are doing is us. I

1058
01:20:27,640 --> 01:20:33,000
believe they're saying schooling pods is the
term. So I've heard I've heard a

1059
01:20:33,000 --> 01:20:35,479
little bit about I'm sorry, Kevin, I was just gonna say I've heard

1060
01:20:35,479 --> 01:20:39,840
a little bit about that, but
I don't know much about it. Yeah,

1061
01:20:39,920 --> 01:20:43,079
so their rotate that you know,
this is numbers of parents, not

1062
01:20:43,159 --> 01:20:46,640
just two or three bit, you
know a number of different families coming together

1063
01:20:46,680 --> 01:20:50,800
and saying we want to homeschool children. So they rotate what house the children

1064
01:20:50,880 --> 01:20:57,319
learn from, teaching, the interaction
with the other kids. So this is

1065
01:20:58,520 --> 01:21:02,520
I actually support that if you When
when um I became aware of this approach

1066
01:21:02,560 --> 01:21:05,399
to homeschooling, I actually was like, yeah, I actually support that.

1067
01:21:05,399 --> 01:21:11,880
Plus they're having their kids involved in
community activities, um you know still you

1068
01:21:11,920 --> 01:21:15,560
know, clubs, summer programs,
all that stuff. So they they are

1069
01:21:15,640 --> 01:21:19,279
socializing their children from the parents that
I know who are homeschooling. So in

1070
01:21:19,439 --> 01:21:24,439
that way, in that fashion,
I absolutely am supportive of homeschooling. Now,

1071
01:21:24,439 --> 01:21:29,479
if you think about the stereotypical old
school view of homeschooling, where you

1072
01:21:29,479 --> 01:21:31,720
know, they're just kept in a
house all day and you know, you

1073
01:21:31,840 --> 01:21:35,760
know that kind of that kind of
view, that no, I wouldn't consider

1074
01:21:35,840 --> 01:21:41,800
that healthy for a child's development.
But that's not That's not what I'm seeing

1075
01:21:41,920 --> 01:21:45,640
on the rise. What I'm seeing
on the rise is this idea of homeschooling

1076
01:21:45,680 --> 01:21:49,600
communities coming together. Well, the
thing is with with homeschooling, and uh,

1077
01:21:50,039 --> 01:21:54,319
I certainly don't oppose it. I
have the same Actually, the my

1078
01:21:54,399 --> 01:21:59,439
biggest concern um has always been the
same thing that you you talked about,

1079
01:21:59,479 --> 01:22:03,439
the soization or a potential lack thereof. But I think with homeschooling it's it's

1080
01:22:03,479 --> 01:22:09,439
it's just like with public education,
You're going to have very different outcomes depending

1081
01:22:09,479 --> 01:22:15,319
on depending on who is um,
who is doing the teaching and so forth

1082
01:22:15,359 --> 01:22:19,479
and um and when it comes so, yeah, go ahead. Well,

1083
01:22:19,479 --> 01:22:21,439
no, I was gonna say,
interesting enough, what I what I do

1084
01:22:21,479 --> 01:22:27,439
support with the public education system is
I really would like to see less of,

1085
01:22:27,680 --> 01:22:30,079
you know, a grip by the
federal government when it comes to the

1086
01:22:30,239 --> 01:22:33,720
education system, UM, on a
state level. I think obviously one of

1087
01:22:33,720 --> 01:22:38,239
the best things too, if we
really are having more of a focus on

1088
01:22:38,439 --> 01:22:42,319
the education system being run by the
states, as well as with the idea

1089
01:22:42,359 --> 01:22:45,720
of homeschooling, is that if something
is failing, so when you have people

1090
01:22:45,920 --> 01:22:49,359
coming at something from many different angles, you're going to have people who are

1091
01:22:49,439 --> 01:22:54,439
more successful in what they're doing and
more in people who are not as successful.

1092
01:22:54,640 --> 01:22:58,680
What's great about this is when you
have that diversity of approach is that

1093
01:22:58,800 --> 01:23:02,640
those who are not it's successful,
if they really want to fix the issue,

1094
01:23:02,640 --> 01:23:06,399
they can look at those who have
been more successful and try to take

1095
01:23:06,399 --> 01:23:11,399
away from that. That's why I
actually like the idea of you know,

1096
01:23:11,479 --> 01:23:15,439
our education system or public education system
being more um, state based than you

1097
01:23:15,479 --> 01:23:21,640
know, a federal stranglehold on that. Yeah, I actually uh that we

1098
01:23:21,720 --> 01:23:26,520
have some agreement there. UM.
I've I've always been a big fan of

1099
01:23:26,560 --> 01:23:31,039
local control. UM. But uh, by the way, Charles Richardson,

1100
01:23:31,079 --> 01:23:36,520
who who actually is from Florida,
the under the governorship of Rhonda Santis.

1101
01:23:36,600 --> 01:23:41,319
Charles said in the chat room,
I think the wording of these are our

1102
01:23:41,399 --> 01:23:45,359
children is meaning that these are our
next generation of people in the workforce,

1103
01:23:45,399 --> 01:23:47,439
and we need to teach them correctly. I think that's a good insight that

1104
01:23:47,640 --> 01:23:50,319
Charles makes. I never, I've
never found that. I don't. I

1105
01:23:50,359 --> 01:23:55,439
don't find that nefarious either. I
agree with Charles when I when I hear

1106
01:23:55,479 --> 01:23:57,840
that, I don't. I don't
think there's anything going on there where the

1107
01:23:57,840 --> 01:24:00,520
government. But I don't. I
don't believe in and and maybe you do,

1108
01:24:00,560 --> 01:24:02,880
but I don't believe in the whole
you know, all the government wants

1109
01:24:02,880 --> 01:24:05,920
to indoctrinate your kids and all that. I've never I've never bought into that.

1110
01:24:06,039 --> 01:24:09,840
I mean that certainly. I never. I certainly never felt that way

1111
01:24:09,880 --> 01:24:13,800
going to public school. Uh,
And I don't. I don't. I

1112
01:24:13,800 --> 01:24:16,039
don't believe that that's that's really the
state of things. But but again,

1113
01:24:16,039 --> 01:24:20,319
in public education, I was just
gonna say, in public education too,

1114
01:24:20,359 --> 01:24:23,640
A lot of it has to do
with geography, I feel, because you've

1115
01:24:23,680 --> 01:24:27,840
got even within an individual state.
Like here in New Hampshire, we have

1116
01:24:28,119 --> 01:24:30,600
I grew up and conquered great school
system. From what I hear, it

1117
01:24:30,720 --> 01:24:34,119
still is. UM. I've heard
some wonderful success stories here in Manchester,

1118
01:24:34,840 --> 01:24:38,720
especially from one of the guys who
also hosts a show here. But you're

1119
01:24:38,720 --> 01:24:41,039
also going to have school systems that
don't have a lot of money, that

1120
01:24:41,079 --> 01:24:44,520
don't have a lot of resources,
that are going to fail and uh and

1121
01:24:44,600 --> 01:24:47,319
you see that throughout the country.
So I don't think it's a one size

1122
01:24:47,319 --> 01:24:50,840
fits all thing. But that actually
is part of why I tend to be

1123
01:24:50,880 --> 01:24:56,079
in favor of local control, because
I think locally you can figure out better

1124
01:24:56,159 --> 01:24:59,760
how to allocate those limited resources that
you have. But I think there's great,

1125
01:25:00,039 --> 01:25:02,760
cool systems. I think there's terrible
school systems and a million shades of

1126
01:25:02,800 --> 01:25:06,800
gray in between. Oh. Absolutely. And that's the thing is Like,

1127
01:25:06,800 --> 01:25:13,000
it's interesting because I'm I'm someone in
who I consider myself very resistant to UM,

1128
01:25:13,159 --> 01:25:16,359
you know, the whole conspiracy theory, or at least I very much

1129
01:25:16,439 --> 01:25:19,159
try to be. Let's face it, we all look at things in wonder

1130
01:25:19,159 --> 01:25:23,960
in our head. Are these are
these you know coincidences? Is the connection

1131
01:25:24,000 --> 01:25:27,640
there? But the difference between a
person who just thinks that in a two

1132
01:25:27,760 --> 01:25:31,079
conspiracy, you know, someone who
believes in conspiracies is you don't let it.

1133
01:25:31,119 --> 01:25:33,840
You don't let it control you.
You make an observation and you see

1134
01:25:33,880 --> 01:25:38,880
if anything eventually supports that rum.
So I really I you know, And

1135
01:25:38,920 --> 01:25:43,760
that's how I've always been, UM
how I've always tried to approach things where

1136
01:25:43,760 --> 01:25:46,439
I see some patterns out there?
But am I really seeing a pattern?

1137
01:25:46,479 --> 01:25:50,479
So I step back and I wait
to have supporting evidence there UM when it

1138
01:25:50,520 --> 01:25:54,640
comes to that. What's interesting to
me, and I'm not in any way

1139
01:25:55,239 --> 01:26:02,600
trying to um apply motive or belief
to the individual who commented there is I

1140
01:26:02,680 --> 01:26:06,880
found that interesting of the future workforce, that that was the first thing in

1141
01:26:06,920 --> 01:26:11,920
mind, the workforce. Um.
It made me think a little bit about

1142
01:26:11,920 --> 01:26:15,199
our our next generation of drones that
would just uh, you know, continue

1143
01:26:15,399 --> 01:26:19,640
a certain process. I guess that's
not how I personally, and like I

1144
01:26:19,640 --> 01:26:24,640
said, maybe that is my personal
bias. When I think about educating the

1145
01:26:24,760 --> 01:26:30,359
children, UM, I'm thinking not
about specific careers or even the word workforce

1146
01:26:30,439 --> 01:26:31,560
per se. And don't get me
wrong, that's part of it. I'm

1147
01:26:31,600 --> 01:26:36,720
thinking about the next generation of leaders
in all aspects. Um. True,

1148
01:26:36,760 --> 01:26:42,079
in the workforce, but also philosophically, culturally, you know, all the

1149
01:26:42,119 --> 01:26:45,039
stuff. That's what I'm thinking about, Um, those that will lead our

1150
01:26:45,119 --> 01:26:50,359
nation in several different ways, not
just a job performance. Sure, sure,

1151
01:26:50,760 --> 01:26:55,439
I don't know that that's exactly how
he meant it, but I but

1152
01:26:55,520 --> 01:26:57,600
I I teyeah, yeah, And
that's that's why I said, I'm not

1153
01:26:57,720 --> 01:27:01,399
I'm not trying to assign you know, any any motive on his part,

1154
01:27:01,520 --> 01:27:08,079
most assuredly not. Um, It's
just I've heard that wording a lot um

1155
01:27:08,359 --> 01:27:13,840
a focus on the future workforce,
and I've heard it so much that it's

1156
01:27:13,960 --> 01:27:17,640
got I've started to think about it
a bit more. Yeah, And whether

1157
01:27:17,680 --> 01:27:23,159
intentional or unintentional, it's it's just
something I've found I have found very curious.

1158
01:27:23,319 --> 01:27:25,680
Yeah, Yeah, I get,
I get what you're saying. Um,

1159
01:27:25,960 --> 01:27:29,439
Kevin, it's uh, it's we're
getting close to quarter of and I

1160
01:27:29,479 --> 01:27:31,359
know your time is limited because you
have somewhere to be. You're a you're

1161
01:27:31,399 --> 01:27:35,680
a busy man. But I enjoy
the always enjoy the conversation. I mean,

1162
01:27:35,720 --> 01:27:40,359
you know, we have some sharp
disagreements on on things, and and

1163
01:27:40,439 --> 01:27:44,279
some common ground as well. But
I really enjoy the discussion and uh it's

1164
01:27:44,359 --> 01:27:47,000
uh, well, we'll do this
again, I know. And it's it's

1165
01:27:47,039 --> 01:27:50,640
interesting for me right now because one
of the things that uh and I one

1166
01:27:50,640 --> 01:27:55,119
of the things has been keeping me
busy, uh so is obviously Prime Months

1167
01:27:55,119 --> 01:28:00,239
starting today, Yes, and that
has certainly gotten a lot of discussions going

1168
01:28:00,279 --> 01:28:08,600
in my circles, which personally,
I admittedly I find myself to be an

1169
01:28:08,600 --> 01:28:13,079
individual who has very much disconnected himself
from Pride Month and to be honest,

1170
01:28:13,119 --> 01:28:19,039
in many ways, the quote unquote
community in general h to be Honestum.

1171
01:28:20,399 --> 01:28:29,880
Yeah, I find myself very concerned
about the focuses of the current community and

1172
01:28:30,119 --> 01:28:33,800
the issues that they seem to be
taking up in defense of that. That

1173
01:28:33,960 --> 01:28:39,600
actually concerns me a great deal.
Oh interesting, Well, well we'll have

1174
01:28:39,640 --> 01:28:42,560
to have Like I said, I
know your time is limited, but if

1175
01:28:43,359 --> 01:28:45,000
if you'd like to come back,
I'd love to talk to you more about

1176
01:28:45,000 --> 01:28:47,720
and maybe we can get into that. I'm really curious SERI your thoughts.

1177
01:28:48,720 --> 01:28:51,920
Oh absolutely, I'd love to come
back on It's been it's both times I've

1178
01:28:51,920 --> 01:28:57,199
been on this time last time,
it's been a true pleasure speaking with you.

1179
01:28:57,800 --> 01:29:00,920
Um, I can actually just give
some information of where people can learn

1180
01:29:00,960 --> 01:29:04,279
more about me, my campaign and
also like also some personal information as well.

1181
01:29:04,359 --> 01:29:08,520
Yeah please, yeah, go for
it. All right. So regarding

1182
01:29:08,520 --> 01:29:14,920
the city council campaign, we have
a website Schenectady GOP City Council twenty twenty

1183
01:29:14,960 --> 01:29:20,319
three dot com. Our Facebook is
your GOP candidates for Schenectady City Council.

1184
01:29:20,840 --> 01:29:30,880
Our Twitter handle is gop sche Council
and it also will just be your GOP

1185
01:29:30,039 --> 01:29:36,039
candidates for Schenecty City Council on Twitter. Our website also has a link to

1186
01:29:36,079 --> 01:29:42,840
our mayoral candidate, Matt Nelligan,
who is an amazing man. And as

1187
01:29:42,880 --> 01:29:46,319
far as my personal information I can. I have a Facebook page from when

1188
01:29:46,359 --> 01:29:50,560
I last ran for city council that
I converted into more of a blogging page,

1189
01:29:51,000 --> 01:29:56,199
which is Schenectady Dash the Conservative Perspective, and then on YouTube it's the

1190
01:29:56,319 --> 01:30:00,880
Issues from left to right. The
two is the number two, not the

1191
01:30:00,920 --> 01:30:04,720
word too. That was actually more
of a suggestion of a friend, and

1192
01:30:05,000 --> 01:30:09,199
that's where people can learn more about
me, but also learn more about the

1193
01:30:09,239 --> 01:30:13,840
campaign I'm currently in and my amazing
running mates. All right, very good.

1194
01:30:14,199 --> 01:30:16,840
Kevin Hammer from the Great State of
New York. Thank you for joining

1195
01:30:16,920 --> 01:30:20,199
us, and yes we will.
We'll talk to you and we'll do this

1196
01:30:20,239 --> 01:30:25,680
again soon and have a great rest
of your day you too. I look

1197
01:30:25,680 --> 01:30:27,560
forward to it, all right,
man, take care, bye bye.

1198
01:30:29,079 --> 01:30:31,600
All right. That was Kevin Hammer, and uh, yep, I I

1199
01:30:31,640 --> 01:30:34,520
like talking with him. I mean
again, we very much disagree on some

1200
01:30:34,600 --> 01:30:39,359
things, but uh, but I
do enjoy the conversation and uh, let's

1201
01:30:39,399 --> 01:30:44,399
see you know. And we met
him actually through our friend Billy Painter from

1202
01:30:44,439 --> 01:30:47,119
Outlaw Radio, who when Billy approached
us about Kevin said, you know,

1203
01:30:47,119 --> 01:30:50,520
he's someone who really likes to try
to get out of the whole echo chamber

1204
01:30:50,560 --> 01:30:56,600
and talk with people who he not
only agrees with but also disagrees with on

1205
01:30:56,640 --> 01:31:00,279
some things and have some some real
conversation which I enjoy as well. It's

1206
01:31:00,279 --> 01:31:02,439
a big part of why I do
this show. So very good, very

1207
01:31:02,479 --> 01:31:08,199
good, let's do this. We're
gonna play one more song, well,

1208
01:31:08,279 --> 01:31:10,880
not necessarily one more. I'll probably
play one at the end of the show,

1209
01:31:10,880 --> 01:31:15,079
but we still have two tickets to
give away to stand Up Audio at

1210
01:31:15,079 --> 01:31:18,920
the Rex Theater on Saturday night.
I'm gonna play one more of their songs

1211
01:31:18,960 --> 01:31:23,439
here. This is called Ain't with
Me, a great song from these guys,

1212
01:31:23,479 --> 01:31:27,359
and then you'll have a few minutes
after the song to call in grab

1213
01:31:27,399 --> 01:31:30,760
those tickets. Jenny and I are
going to be there, so there's all

1214
01:31:30,760 --> 01:31:32,760
the reason you need, really,
but no, check out this band.

1215
01:31:32,760 --> 01:31:36,640
They're awesome. So this is called
Ain't with Me from the band Stand Up

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Audio. Ain't with Me from Stand
Up Audio. Give us a call six

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zo three two five O six zoh
seven Come join us Saturday night at the

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Rex Theater right around the corner on
Amhurst Street. It's gonna be a good

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time. Six three two six seven, and Saturn in the chat room says,

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we say this is nice music,
We said hashtag Matt Yes, yes,

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absolutely absolutely. By the way,
just a quick update here. Who's

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we've been. I know, it
seems like it's all we talk about lately.

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Not all we talk about, obviously, but the debt ceiling. This

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is an update from the Hill dot
com Debt Ceiling live updates Senate scrambles with

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default deadline looming. It says here
the deal to raise the debt ceiling is

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in the hands of the Senate after
passing the House by a wide and bipartisan

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margin. Last night, Treasury Secretary
Jannet Yellen said the US could run out

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of money to pay its bills on
June five if Congress doesn't act, which

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leaves the famously slow moving Upper Chamber
a little time to approve the increase.

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While the measure is expected to pass
the Senate lawmakers today, we're ironing out,

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ironing out an agreement to allow the
bill to be passed in time.

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Kane. Senator Tim Kaine, Democrat
of Virginia, and Joe Mansion, Democrat

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of West Virginia, were spotted chatting
after Kane gave a speech on the Senate

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floor this afternoon, and I mentioned
that earlier in the show, Tim Kaine

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last night was on cable news talking
about how, you know, he was

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very upset about this pipeline that Joe
Mansion was able to get kind of dropped

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into the debt ceiling agreement, and
Tim Kaine's very upset and wanted to attach

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an amendment. It was his intention
to attach an amendment to this bill because

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nobody asked him, apparently, and
you know, he said he's protecting the

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people of Virginia. And but the
problem again, as I mentioned, earlier

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with attaching an amendment to this.
Now is it would have to go back

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to the House, and we don't
have time. We don't have time for

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this. We've got to get this
pass so we can avoid default. It

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says here Kane is pushing for an
amendment to strip, a provision that would

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speed approval of the Mountain Valley Pipeline, a natural gas pipeline that would run

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through West Virginia and Virginia. The
pipeline has been a key ask of Mansion.

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Mansion told reporters after his own floor
speech and support of the pipeline,

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quote, we have a common ground
to agree to disagree, but he's my

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dear friend and we move on.
Unquote. Schumer vows to keep Senate in

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session until debt ceiling bill passes send
a majority. Leader Chuck Schumer told colleagues

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this morning he will excuse me.
He will keep the Senate in session for

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as long as it takes to pass
legislation to raise the debt ceiling and send

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it to President Biden's desk. Warning
the x state when the nation faces default

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is less than four days away,
he said, quote, we will keep

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working until the job is done.
Time is a luxury the and it does

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not have at this point. Any
needless delay or any last minute hold ups

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would be an unnecessary and even dangerous
risk. And any change to this bill

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that forces us to send it back
to the House would be entirely unacceptable.

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Unquote. I agree. Um,
you know, and we talked earlier about

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oh, there's the sirens. Happens
once a show. I don't think the

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mics pick it up. Sounds like
a fire somewhere, the fire trucks.

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But yeah, I've really, really
hope that tomorrow when I come on the

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air, this is my hope for
all of us, for all of us.

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I hope that I can come on
the air and talk about how the

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Senate passed the debt ceiling bill and
now it's going to the President's desk and

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at least we can put this behind
us and there won't be another fight over

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the debt ceiling for two years.
Because that was one of the things that

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Biden was able to get the Steve
Rochetti, who is negotiating on behalf of

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the President and the Democrats, we're
able to get in the bill two years

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instead of one in terms of raising
the debt ceiling. So we don't have

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to have this fight again for two
years, which is good. But what

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I would prefer to see is the
debt limit go away all together. And

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Saturn in the chat room says,
we say, hashtag Matt, you have

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a good evening and we will be
watching you tomorrow afternoon. Hi hashtag Jenny

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coffee. We said, well,
very good, well, and a good

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evening to you too, and Saturn, I say to you from us all

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right before we go, don't forget
tonight is trivia night, because it is

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Thursday Trivia Night at the Hop Knot
hosted by Broderick Lange, So you can

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check that out, although I do
suggest calling ahead because those spots do fill

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up very quickly for trivia. I
don't forget Jenny as a brand new article

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up in The Mighty That one up
today at the Mighty dot com, so

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be sure to give that a read. She does a great job with those.

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And DJ Reckless it's open decks tonight
right up the street here at the

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six zero three Bar and Grill.
I believe that starts at nine pm.

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Open decks meaning it's like it's like
an open mic night, but open decks.

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You can go and you can go
and DJ so very good. Oh,

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by the way, and I didn't
say it because I was waiting for

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the page to load. Oh.
Jenny also posted the link in the chat

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room, but the article is called
when access to medication and treatment is a

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matter of life and death. Brand
new article posted today at The Mighty dot

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com. And that's gonna do it
for us for now. If you are

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listening live on Thursday. Coming up
next is Through the Stage Door hosted by

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the Great Rob Dieon and don't forget
to be back bright and early tomorrow morning,

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seven am for the Morning Show with
Peter White. And if you miss

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any part of today's show it we'll
be up in just a little bit at

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WMH radio dot org and on my
website Matt Connerton dot com. And thank

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you again to Kevin Hammer for joining
us today on the program. And we'll

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leave you with one more Uh.
Well, we didn't give away the tickets

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today, so we'll try again tomorrow. But somebody's got to grab these tickets.

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Man, you got to see this
band. We'll leave you with one

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more track. Uh. This is
Hazel Eyes from Stand Up Audio. To

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close out today is Matt Connerton Unleashed
right here at WMH ninety five point three

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FFM, good night, everybody,