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Their phone number is eight 17 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:26,920 six six eighty four to one forty six hundred, or on the web at 18 00:01:26,959 --> 00:02:08,719 CGI Business Solutions dot com wmnh Ripthobles. When when I was a boy, 19 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:15,960 all, I mean got all this one of the stuny that I was. 20 00:02:15,319 --> 00:02:22,159 When I was a kid, I got my face up and not a biless 21 00:02:22,439 --> 00:02:30,199 the geese. I wasn't always a stool, but when I I was a 22 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:39,280 dump, I always look hands, I need store and go fill us. 23 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:52,240 I remember all the bands and big member. It feels like someone that stop 24 00:02:52,360 --> 00:03:00,639 me and say fuck one of my r ry your mass side away, no 25 00:03:01,039 --> 00:03:09,960 scene down the Bomby Road. Alive you side go way, No same down 26 00:03:10,039 --> 00:03:34,000 the Bomy Road up. And when I was at school then my good grades. 27 00:03:34,199 --> 00:03:38,199 I was, yes, still be no fool when I was still young 28 00:03:38,439 --> 00:03:46,680 and all I care about round was girls. But sadly my mantles used the 29 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:53,400 beast, I just don't move before dance, cry on the floor. They 30 00:03:53,599 --> 00:04:00,240 used to ray and me up my milk honey taken. When I was goin 31 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:14,000 up. I remember man said Amada mel fly someone in the stuff. Ain't 32 00:04:14,039 --> 00:04:24,319 not say my God, I got you as side called when saing down the 33 00:04:24,519 --> 00:04:32,879 bomb all alive your mess side go when no same? Don mom you oh 34 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:55,560 you know. When I was a boy, my father used to look down 35 00:04:55,639 --> 00:05:00,319 at me and say, what don hell are there? Go outside and cut 36 00:05:00,439 --> 00:05:04,759 some grass. Why don't you go kids? A girl? You stolen loser? 37 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:46,959 Down your nast side, call away, no scene, you won't a 38 00:05:46,160 --> 00:06:18,399 line down your nast side, Go away, scene down. If you're listening 39 00:06:18,439 --> 00:06:27,879 to, don't luminate before I come in. God, don't get so greenly 40 00:06:28,199 --> 00:07:08,759 died madself. Good morning everyone as we enter our number two Newmarrow dose of 41 00:07:08,879 --> 00:07:14,519 Matt Connorton Unleashed and we are live from the studios of w m n H 42 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:18,000 ninety five point three FM Inglorious of Manchester, New Hampshire, and of course 43 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:23,000 you can stream us online. Go to Matt Connorton dot com slash live for 44 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:26,519 all your live streaming options, social media links, contact and POSHO archives, 45 00:07:26,519 --> 00:07:30,519 et cetera, et cetera. It is Saturday, March nine, twenty twenty 46 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:33,079 four. Jenny is here as well, President and accounted for and thank you 47 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:36,279 again to Eric from a Temple Mountain. I'm not even going to attempt his 48 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:41,839 actual last name because I can't remember how to say it. But but he 49 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:45,519 goes by Temple Mountain because it is it is much easier. And boy, 50 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:48,240 he's amazing. What of what a voice. I'm the great songwriter and just 51 00:07:48,959 --> 00:07:55,680 an incredible voice and really good guitar player too, absolutely, but his I 52 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:59,439 love his voice. I love his songs and great stuff. Will he doesn't 53 00:07:59,519 --> 00:08:03,160 use a pick on any of his songs. He's all about yep, his 54 00:08:03,319 --> 00:08:07,199 fingers. Yeah, that's always impressive to me because you know, I'm a 55 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:11,000 bass player and I play with a pick, and you know most bass players 56 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:13,959 don't. Some do, Geene Simmons does, for example, But I play 57 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:16,560 with a pick. Hey, why would you copy him? But but you 58 00:08:16,639 --> 00:08:20,040 know, when I when I see a guitar player who can play without a 59 00:08:20,079 --> 00:08:24,959 pick, the most impressive example of it to me being Lindsey Buckingham from Fleewood 60 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:28,199 Mac some of the solos to be able to play those without a pick is 61 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:33,559 truly remarkable to me. I've always been amazed by that. Quite nice, 62 00:08:33,799 --> 00:08:37,159 yes, yes, But and of course we've got a great, great talented 63 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:41,240 musician coming in the third hour today too, in the eleven am hour, 64 00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:46,399 we will be joined in studio by Casey Darren and his project Soda, which 65 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:50,960 is s O T A H. So people don't go style soda. Yeah, 66 00:08:52,279 --> 00:08:54,240 I like it. So that'll be that'll be coming up today in the 67 00:08:54,279 --> 00:08:56,879 third hour. In the meantime, if you have any anything for us, 68 00:08:56,919 --> 00:09:00,240 if you'd like to give us a call, the studio line is open six 69 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:03,840 O three two five O six oh seven six O three two five O six 70 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:07,600 oh seven. You can also text us at six one seven nine one seven 71 00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:11,279 four four seven six. I'm on social media at Matt Connorton. You can 72 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:15,200 email me Matt at Matt connorton dot com. You can interact end o Pine 73 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:18,879 in the Facebook live chat and we appreciate everybody in there. And now also 74 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:22,840 you can go to Matt connorton dot com slash live. We have a separate 75 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:28,240 chat room there uh and you can direct message me during the show on that 76 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:33,440 page as well. Matt connorton dot com slash live, so you also have 77 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:35,879 that as an option. But the best thing to do so that we can 78 00:09:35,919 --> 00:09:39,639 here it enjoy your dulcid tones is give us a call at six O three 79 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:43,360 two five O six oh seven six O three two five o six oh seven. 80 00:09:43,639 --> 00:09:46,840 Uh. And by the way, if you're wondering, no classic film 81 00:09:46,879 --> 00:09:50,919 review this week from our friend Eric Pilcher. He's been dealing with some stuff, 82 00:09:52,039 --> 00:09:56,960 so he's got a run of some some bad luck unfortunately. But we 83 00:09:56,039 --> 00:09:58,759 love Eric, so he'll he'll probably be back with us next week with another 84 00:09:58,799 --> 00:10:05,080 great film review. So there is that. But uh, there is a 85 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:09,799 drama in the music world. Is there never not drama in the music world? 86 00:10:09,919 --> 00:10:13,000 Well, you know there are certain It's funny if I were to I 87 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:15,480 didn't even know about this until he brought it to my attention this morning. 88 00:10:15,559 --> 00:10:20,279 But if I were to say to you, who are some of the bands 89 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:24,039 off the top of your head, who are some of the bands if I 90 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:26,480 if I mentioned if I say the word drama, who are some of the 91 00:10:28,279 --> 00:10:33,519 the legendary bands that have had the most drama happen within them? Kiss? 92 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:37,360 Okay, kiss comes to mind, right, yep, yep. And I 93 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:41,360 mentioned Fleetwood Mac a few moments ago. Yeah, yep, yep, yep. 94 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:45,440 That's another one. And of course has another band that has had Motley 95 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:48,080 oh lots of drama there. Yet we've talked about that on the show. 96 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:52,639 Lots of drama there. There's a whole book about it called The Dirt about 97 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:58,600 all the Motley Crue drama. Metallica some drama there. They have a great 98 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:03,720 documentary which Eric review Journey one week on the show. Uh, some kind 99 00:11:03,720 --> 00:11:07,600 of monster about Metallica Journey. Yep, they've had some legal drive. I 100 00:11:07,639 --> 00:11:09,440 don't even think they talked about last couple of ye. I know they share 101 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:13,039 the stage, but don't actually speak to each other. Jonathan Kane. I 102 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:16,519 think they talked about their lawyers or something bizarre like that. Jonathan Kane and 103 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:18,519 Neil Sean. Yeah, I don't think they actually speak to each other. 104 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:22,799 They just uh the play, which I've always thought that that's gonna be so 105 00:11:22,879 --> 00:11:26,440 weird, like being in a band with someone and not even speaking to them. 106 00:11:26,559 --> 00:11:31,200 I remember seeing a documentary once about the Beach Boys, and there was 107 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:35,440 a period where the band had essentially split. And this was like at their 108 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:39,720 commercial peak. The band had essentially split into two factions. One was the 109 00:11:39,799 --> 00:11:45,399 Mike Love faction and the other was the Brian Wilson faction. And and and 110 00:11:45,559 --> 00:11:48,000 they would actually enter the stage from opposite sides because they didn't want to, 111 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:52,159 Like, how does a band even function that way? It's always been fascinating 112 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:54,600 to me, like, how do you how do you write a set list? 113 00:11:54,879 --> 00:11:56,200 Maybe you have one person who's in charge of writing a set list. 114 00:11:56,279 --> 00:11:58,840 You can't all have input. If you can't even have a conversation through the 115 00:12:00,039 --> 00:12:01,720 lawyers, you know, they just pass it around and agree to know, 116 00:12:01,919 --> 00:12:07,320 we're not going to do this after that or whatever. Maybe the two All 117 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:11,039 of those dramas, though, are within bands that we've brought up. This 118 00:12:11,279 --> 00:12:15,039 is not a drama within the band, well there is, so of course 119 00:12:15,159 --> 00:12:20,879 we're talking about the Eagles, and the Eagles so much drama historically in that 120 00:12:20,039 --> 00:12:24,039 band that when they did their reunion in the mid nineties, they called it 121 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:26,480 hell Freeze Is Over. I think it was ninety four, and they did 122 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:28,919 the Hell Freezes Over tour, and then of course that wasn't the end of 123 00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:35,000 the drama. There ended up being more drama with Don Felder getting fired from 124 00:12:35,039 --> 00:12:39,279 the band and so forth, so it never truly ends. Also, some 125 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:43,559 intense personalities and Don Henley, about whom this latest bit of drama seems to 126 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:48,039 center around, known for having a particularly intense personality by the way, are 127 00:12:48,039 --> 00:12:54,559 you an Eagles fan? Because Eagles I always did like the Eagles me too, 128 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:58,240 But they're one of those bands that people who don't like, well, 129 00:12:58,279 --> 00:13:01,440 they're kind of like kissing this sense, you know how, you know how 130 00:13:01,519 --> 00:13:05,080 with kiss, like people who don't like kiss really don't like kiss, like 131 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:09,080 really hate them. Like. I've never met anyone who simply doesn't like kiss 132 00:13:09,399 --> 00:13:15,039 they like like, I've only met people who either really like kiss or really 133 00:13:15,159 --> 00:13:18,399 hate kiss. I feel like the Eagles is like that too, Like people 134 00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:20,679 who don't like the Eagles really hate the Eagles. You've seen the Big Lebowski, 135 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:24,720 right, Yes, yeah, you know, and there's a whole thing 136 00:13:24,759 --> 00:13:28,240 in there about how much he hates the Eagles. Yeah, I personally I 137 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:31,799 love the Eagles. I'm a dudast priest. What do you mean? Oh, 138 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:35,360 yes, from the Sorry that took me a second. Took me a 139 00:13:35,399 --> 00:13:39,000 second. Still, I used to doing this in the morning. My brain 140 00:13:39,080 --> 00:13:46,159 isn't but it's different. This is not within the band. Yeah. Oh, 141 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:48,720 by the way, we have to say hello to Chris Porri or our 142 00:13:48,759 --> 00:13:54,879 friend Chrispy, who's a Facebook live chat Hello, buddy, he's he's isn't 143 00:13:54,919 --> 00:13:56,360 he supposed to be coming on the show at some point. He will yes, 144 00:13:56,480 --> 00:14:00,120 good, good, good, when he's ready, I'm bringing them in. 145 00:14:01,159 --> 00:14:03,039 Last time we saw him was at an event at the hopknot that's true. 146 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:09,120 That's true. So, yeah, there's some weird legal drama involving Don 147 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:13,480 Henley. And uh, this is uh this story is from Billboard dot com. 148 00:14:13,600 --> 00:14:16,080 Uh. And again, I didn't know this was going on until because 149 00:14:16,080 --> 00:14:18,159 apparently this has been going on for a little while. But there's a new 150 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:22,600 wrinkle. But I this had completely gotten past me until you brought it to 151 00:14:22,639 --> 00:14:24,600 my attention this morning. I wouldn't call it a wrinkle. I'd call it 152 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:30,399 a bit of a crater. Yeah. So, uh, Eagles. This 153 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:39,120 is the article Eagles Stolen Notes trial ends suddenly after judge says Don Henley manipulated 154 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:46,679 prosecutors. Yes, I we got to spill the T. Yeah, spill 155 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:50,559 the t. That is what the young people say, Yes, it says. 156 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:54,799 The abrupt end came after prosecutors revealed the newly disclosed evidence from Henley cast 157 00:14:54,919 --> 00:15:00,440 out on whether the Eagles notes had been stolen in the first place. Now, 158 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:05,320 and I'm just getting familiar with this story. We're we're just getting familiar 159 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:09,639 with this story. Uh as well, because Jenny didn't know it. You 160 00:15:09,679 --> 00:15:11,240 didn't know until this morning that any of this was going on either right now. 161 00:15:11,279 --> 00:15:15,080 No, that's not true. I actually knew about the case being dropped, 162 00:15:15,159 --> 00:15:18,000 but I didn't know why. And now that I know the why, 163 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:22,320 it's like, really, yeah, you can't. You can't trust that dastardly 164 00:15:22,399 --> 00:15:28,799 done Henley. I like the judge it monished them. I like the Eagles, 165 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:31,559 but I've never trusted them. See, and everybody goes to Hotel California, 166 00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:35,840 and I was already not that I don't like Hotel California, but my 167 00:15:35,039 --> 00:15:39,440 go to song was always Desperado. Yeah, I never liked a Desperado. 168 00:15:39,639 --> 00:15:43,480 I liked that, and uh, Hotel California. I liked it when I 169 00:15:43,559 --> 00:15:46,240 was a kid, but after the seven millionth time of hearing it, I 170 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:48,440 was over it. I can't tell you why is my favorite Eagles song? 171 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:54,320 Why can't you tell me? I can't tell you why that's my favorite Eagles 172 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:56,600 song? What song? I can't tell you? Why won't you tell me? 173 00:15:58,039 --> 00:15:58,960 I can't tell you why? That's not nice? I want to. 174 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:03,919 I know I can't tell you why, but that is my favorite Eagles song. 175 00:16:03,559 --> 00:16:11,320 So I can't tell you why. Manhattan prosecutors made the stunning decision Wednesday, 176 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:15,080 March sixth to drop a criminal case against three men accused of trying to 177 00:16:15,159 --> 00:16:21,480 sell stolen notes linked to the eagles nineteen seventy six album Hotel California, with 178 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:26,159 a judge saying Don Henley had manipulated prosecutors. At a hearing Wednesday, a 179 00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:32,440 New York judge dismissed the charges after prosecutors alerted him that newly uncovered evidence cast 180 00:16:32,519 --> 00:16:36,000 out on whether Henley's notes had been stolen in the first place. The court 181 00:16:36,039 --> 00:16:47,679 offense advanced by Glenn Horowitz, Craig In INCRTI, and Edward Kazinski. The 182 00:16:47,759 --> 00:16:52,279 disclosures came midway through a closely watched criminal trial against the three men, in 183 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:56,600 which Henley and longtime Eagles manager Irving Azoff, who's a legend in the music 184 00:16:56,639 --> 00:17:00,120 industry or Irving as Off, had already testified. The proceedings had already run 185 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:06,559 more than two weeks and had been expected to keep going until at least next 186 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:10,960 week. The sudden reversal was sparked by Henley producing new evidence that had previously 187 00:17:11,799 --> 00:17:17,400 had been previously withheld under attorney client privilege. The new materials touched on whether 188 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:21,039 a journalist tired in the nineteen seventies to write a book about the Eagles Ed 189 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:26,640 Sanders had legitimately come into possession of Henley's notes. At a hearing in open 190 00:17:26,759 --> 00:17:33,559 court on Wednesday, Justice Curtis Farber sharply criticized Henley and Azof's conduct. Quote 191 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:37,079 it is now clear that both witnesses and their lawyers used the privilege to obfuscate 192 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:42,079 and hide information that they believed would be damaging to their position that the lyric 193 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:48,319 sheets were stolen unquote. The judge said he was also troubled that prosecutors had 194 00:17:48,359 --> 00:17:52,319 been quote manipulated into bringing the charges. In questioned why they had not more 195 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:56,839 thoroughly vetted the accusations and the evidence, but he praised them for dropping the 196 00:17:56,920 --> 00:18:00,039 case once new evidence had come to light. Now, by the way, 197 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:04,200 is it possible that, uh, there was no manipulation here, but the 198 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:11,400 prosecutors were merely big fans of the Eagles now or perhaps Don Henley's solo work. 199 00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:15,400 Uh uh, you know, Building the Perfect Beasts is a great album, 200 00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:18,200 and that was in case. They wouldn't have dropped the case. They 201 00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:19,960 would keep going because I have to tell you, like if I were, 202 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:25,160 if I were some sort of prosecutor and Gene Simmons came to me and said, 203 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:26,599 hey, I gotta, I gotta, I want to press charges, 204 00:18:26,599 --> 00:18:29,839 I'd be like, whatever you want to do, dude, let's do it. 205 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:33,920 Stop is Gene Simmons of kiss of Kiss? Maybe you'll call in one 206 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:37,119 of these mornings, stop it one of these morning. No, see, 207 00:18:37,160 --> 00:18:44,160 now I'm mixing. This is an interesting situation because it's not often that you 208 00:18:44,319 --> 00:18:47,920 see prosecutors pulling their own case and going, oh no, we're not going 209 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:51,480 to prosecute anymore. Yeah, so you know, it's pretty damning. And 210 00:18:51,559 --> 00:18:56,519 this is information that Henley and his attorneys kept from prosecutors, kept from the 211 00:18:56,640 --> 00:19:02,599 court, and that information was damning to them, which is why the judge 212 00:19:02,680 --> 00:19:06,160 was admonishing them. You're not supposed to do that, not supposed to hide 213 00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:11,680 stuff. No, they used the attorney client privilege as their foundation to keep 214 00:19:11,119 --> 00:19:17,680 these documents private. But apparently something happened that I don't know if it forced 215 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:21,720 their hand to whatever, that they had to give these documents over and the 216 00:19:21,839 --> 00:19:25,680 prosecutors are going, oh, wait a minute, here, if this is 217 00:19:25,799 --> 00:19:30,319 right. Nobody ever sold anything it says you're. In a statement to Billboard 218 00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:36,400 following Wednesday's hearing, Henley's attorney Dan Petrocelli said, quote, the attorney client 219 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:41,359 privilege is a foundational guardrail in our justice system and rarely, if ever, 220 00:19:41,720 --> 00:19:45,079 should you have to forsake it to prosecute or defend a case. As the 221 00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:48,160 victim in this case, mister Henley has once again been victimized by this unjust 222 00:19:48,279 --> 00:19:55,400 outcome. He will pursue all his rights in the civil courts unquote. The 223 00:19:55,519 --> 00:20:02,319 Manhattan DIA's office declined to comment. Horowitz, a rare book dealer in Siarti, 224 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:04,400 a curator at the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, and Kazinski, 225 00:20:04,599 --> 00:20:11,359 a memorabilia auctioneer, were all charged in twenty twenty two with conspiracy over accusations 226 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:18,319 that they tried to resell and hide the origin of the handwritten notes penned by 227 00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:23,680 Henley during the creation of Hotel California. Manhattan DA attorney Alvin Bragg, we've 228 00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:26,400 heard his name and connection with other cases. We won't talk about it, 229 00:20:26,559 --> 00:20:32,640 you have said. The trio had quote made up stories about the origin of 230 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:36,279 the documents, and they're right to possess them so they could turn a profit 231 00:20:36,559 --> 00:20:41,440 unquote. But the three men always maintained that they had done nothing wrong their 232 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:45,039 core argument. Okay, so now we're getting into the heart of the matter. 233 00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:49,079 You see what I did there, Yeah, trying to get down to 234 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:53,799 the heart of the matter. That's one of my favorite Don Henley songs. 235 00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:56,559 See, I'm telling you. If I were a prosecutor and Don Henley came 236 00:20:56,640 --> 00:21:00,599 to me, I'd be like, let's let's get these guys. You shouldn't 237 00:21:00,599 --> 00:21:03,279 be one, that's right, you know, people have like these rights things. 238 00:21:03,559 --> 00:21:07,480 I know, but I'd be more interested in my fandom of Don Henley 239 00:21:07,519 --> 00:21:11,079 and the Eagles. Apparently we see that selfishness in you. I would not 240 00:21:11,279 --> 00:21:15,480 have the discipline to uh not uh will you don't have a discipline. We 241 00:21:15,599 --> 00:21:18,799 know this now if Joe Walsh came to be. If Joe Walsh came to 242 00:21:18,839 --> 00:21:23,799 be, I'd be a little bit more suspicious because, uh that song Life's 243 00:21:23,839 --> 00:21:27,519 been good. I never cared for it. Wow. Yeah, that's why 244 00:21:27,559 --> 00:21:30,839 you're judge. If Joe Walsh wanted to bring charges against somebody, I'd be 245 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:34,640 like, uh no, you're terrible, We're not doing that. Go go 246 00:21:34,799 --> 00:21:38,240 get me, Don Henley, that's why are you judgemental? Well, it's 247 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:42,079 uh, you know, we are talking about legal matters. Oh is that 248 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:49,839 change your perspective? Yes? So, so their core argument that the alleged 249 00:21:51,039 --> 00:21:56,039 theft Sanders said legally obtained them. This is their core argument. Sanders legally 250 00:21:56,079 --> 00:21:59,440 obtained them in the nineteen seventies in the process of writing a never released book 251 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:03,680 about the Eagles. If the notes were never stolen, the three argued, 252 00:22:03,759 --> 00:22:07,799 how could they be charged with re selling stolen property? Okay? So in 253 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:11,119 other words, so, if I understand this correctly, In other words, 254 00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:14,400 if Don Henley willingly gave the notes here, yeah, to take these because 255 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:18,799 you're going to write this book. Yes, although that means they're not stolen 256 00:22:18,839 --> 00:22:22,480 because you hand them over, And if you never sell them to anybody else, 257 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:30,160 then how can you be criminally prosecuted for selling stolen property? Is that's 258 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:33,160 what the charge is. It does seem like it would be unethical though, 259 00:22:33,319 --> 00:22:37,640 if maybe not illegal, But and there's more of this, we'll get to 260 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:40,480 it. But just as we're going through it, well, but if they 261 00:22:40,599 --> 00:22:42,880 tried to if they tried to sell the documents they had, because the thing 262 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:47,079 is, if somebody. So if somebody gives you something for the purpose of 263 00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:48,240 writing a book, and then you never write the book, and then you 264 00:22:48,319 --> 00:22:51,960 say, well, I'm just gonna take these and sell them, that that 265 00:22:52,039 --> 00:22:55,599 seems really that that would be, that would be I would think criminal. 266 00:22:55,759 --> 00:22:59,680 Well, I don't think it's I wouldn't think it would be criminal. In 267 00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:03,039 other words, words, if Henley gave him the documents and said here these 268 00:23:03,079 --> 00:23:04,759 are so you can write your book, and the book never gets written, 269 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:12,200 but Henley gave that property to that author or prospective author, and then so 270 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:15,720 he gave that so they're now the property of the author. If Henley gave 271 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:19,960 them then gave them the author, I argue that they are not the profit 272 00:23:21,279 --> 00:23:25,880 property of the author. If the information was given for the expressed purposes that 273 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:30,160 I'm hiring you to write this book. Here are the documentation and you never 274 00:23:30,279 --> 00:23:33,839 give them back, does it necessarily mean you have the right to sell them. 275 00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:40,000 I would say definitely that that's your argument means to me, it would 276 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:45,119 be unethical to try to sell those documents, completely unethical, but not necessarily 277 00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:48,599 illegal. If Henley gave If Henley takes his property and said here, I'm 278 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:52,160 giving this to you so, and that now becomes the property of the author. 279 00:23:52,599 --> 00:23:56,880 That may be where the hang up is. So is it illegal. 280 00:23:56,960 --> 00:23:59,359 I wouldn't think it would be illegal, but I do think it would be 281 00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:04,240 highly unas thickle that well, yeah, something something gonna be unethical, but 282 00:24:04,319 --> 00:24:10,519 not necessarily. You're hired for an express purpose and your given documentation for that 283 00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:15,839 express purpose. I'm assuming there would be a contract there that spells out what 284 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:19,680 he's doing, you would think. But remember this was during the the process 285 00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:23,279 of doing. That doesn't mean you have the right to and there may there 286 00:24:23,319 --> 00:24:26,480 may not have been any kind of a contract. I mean, remember this 287 00:24:26,599 --> 00:24:29,640 was during the making of Hotel California. These guys were all coked up. 288 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:30,200 No no, no, no no no no no no no, no, 289 00:24:30,319 --> 00:24:37,640 no no no. This is about not the writing part, but about giving 290 00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:44,319 these documents over to a writer who was hired to write a book. But 291 00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:48,440 the book was never published. Right, That doesn't mean it wasn't written, 292 00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:52,839 doesn't mean it wasn't even finished. Right, could have been totally finished, 293 00:24:52,839 --> 00:24:55,200 ready to go to print, and they pull the plug on it and say 294 00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:57,000 we're not going to do that. That's what he was given. These documents, 295 00:24:57,079 --> 00:25:03,759 which does are yeah, even if that doesn't give him the right to 296 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:08,440 then sell them. I come to you, you're a cake baker, and 297 00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:11,759 I come in with a photograph. I want this photograph on this cake, 298 00:25:11,799 --> 00:25:18,720 and it's somebody famous, and I want you to copy this picture, but 299 00:25:18,759 --> 00:25:19,960 I don't want you to do anything else. Do you have the right to 300 00:25:21,039 --> 00:25:26,319 take that picture and then sell it and try to profit on it. Doesn't 301 00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:30,319 that picture still belong to me. I've only given it to you for the 302 00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:33,960 purpose of making that picture on that cake. But see, then we get 303 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:36,640 into and again, by the way, neither of us are legal experts. 304 00:25:37,519 --> 00:25:41,640 Might feel free to chime in, so if anyone is yeah, six O 305 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:44,920 three two five, six seven, But I would think so in the example 306 00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:48,240 that you just gave again, it would be completely unethical for someone under those 307 00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:52,359 circumstances to then take that property and try to sell it. But is that 308 00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:56,680 is that a criminal matter? Is that really a criminal matter or is it 309 00:25:56,720 --> 00:26:00,880 a civil matter? At that point, it's a criminal matter if you took 310 00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:03,880 something that didn't belong to you and you then sold it, which is what 311 00:26:03,079 --> 00:26:10,039 this case was about, taking those those documents and then selling them to turn 312 00:26:10,079 --> 00:26:15,759 a profit. But that's not what happens. Yeah, in this instance, 313 00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:18,839 they did have it, but they never actually sold it to anyone. So 314 00:26:19,279 --> 00:26:23,400 you can't be convicted of selling stolen property if you never actually sold it. 315 00:26:23,519 --> 00:26:27,039 But they tried, right, I don't know if they tried or not, 316 00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:32,559 because isn't that the whole point they tried to Because if you try, I 317 00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:36,000 mean, you know, you know, trying but not succeeding doesn't doesn't help 318 00:26:36,039 --> 00:26:37,839 you. I mean, you can well just because you out you can. 319 00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:41,559 You can try to rob a bank, but that's without selling. That's still 320 00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:45,079 the you. No, that's different. You can't. You can't put robbing 321 00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:48,720 a bank and conflate that into what I'm just I'm just saying. I'm just 322 00:26:48,759 --> 00:26:52,480 saying if you try, if you try to do something illegal but you don't 323 00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:56,279 succeed, that doesn't get you off the hook and anything. I'm just saying, 324 00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:59,640 you can't get prosecuted for selling stolen property if you never sold the stolen 325 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:02,599 property. Well, no, but you could get you could get tempting. 326 00:27:02,759 --> 00:27:06,319 Well, yeah, that's that's my point. But in this but they but 327 00:27:07,079 --> 00:27:12,440 but they specifically point out that the reason part of the reason why these charges 328 00:27:12,799 --> 00:27:18,599 were dropped was because the notes were never stolen, They were handed to the 329 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:26,519 writer and then they never how could they be Okay, oh, maybe I'm 330 00:27:26,559 --> 00:27:29,839 wrong about this now that I'm looking at it and thinking about it. If 331 00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:33,039 the notes were never stolen, then if they did sell them, they wouldn't 332 00:27:33,079 --> 00:27:37,839 be stealing. They wouldn't be selling stolen property. They would simply be stolen 333 00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:41,880 property that was within there. Well that was my point, but that's not 334 00:27:41,079 --> 00:27:45,200 so starting to think you're right and I'm wrong on this. So that to 335 00:27:45,279 --> 00:27:48,400 me is not a criminal matter, but it but it could be a civil 336 00:27:48,599 --> 00:27:52,200 But a civil matter if if Henley says, wait a minute, you're trying 337 00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:55,079 to sell this property that I gave to you for the express purpose of writing 338 00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:56,960 a book that never came out, and now you're trying to sell that, 339 00:27:57,559 --> 00:28:00,559 that would be a civil matter. Right. Henley could then say, well, 340 00:28:00,599 --> 00:28:03,839 I'm going to assue you because you're trying to sell property that I that 341 00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:07,400 I gave you specific purpose, and now you're trying to profit off of that. 342 00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:15,000 Right h Yeah. See, this is why I'm thinking you're pro I 343 00:28:15,039 --> 00:28:18,880 think you're right. I think that because they never they were handed over willingly, 344 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:25,279 they were never stolen, right and then if it's just happening in nineteen 345 00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:29,160 seventy that those notes were actually handed over, we're now sitting here in twenty 346 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:32,640 twenty four. Yeah, I mean how far? How long do you have 347 00:28:32,759 --> 00:28:36,960 something in your possession before it becomes yours? Isn't possession nine tenths of the 348 00:28:37,079 --> 00:28:41,119 law anyway, So maybe it's been so long he had it, if he 349 00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:45,880 did sell it, is it even criminal or is it even unethical if he's 350 00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:48,200 had it in nineteen seventy? Yeah, well, there is that. I 351 00:28:48,519 --> 00:28:52,880 mean, yeah, I think it's I think it's unethical to do that regardless 352 00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:56,039 of time. But that, but the mentioning of time does bring up something 353 00:28:56,079 --> 00:29:00,680 else that I'm thinking about too, is and it's it's a similar thought to 354 00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:07,079 excuse me, it's a similar thought to when we were talking about the months 355 00:29:07,119 --> 00:29:10,119 ago the Darryl Hall versus John Oates lawsuit, and we were talking about how, 356 00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:11,400 you know, these guys are in their mid to late seventies, is 357 00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:14,880 this what you know? Is this how they want to end? You know, 358 00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:17,440 Don Henley is seventy six years old. I mean, if I were 359 00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:21,079 seventy six years old and already had more money than I could ever spend I 360 00:29:21,119 --> 00:29:22,759 don't know if I'd want to be spending time in court trying to sue somebody 361 00:29:22,799 --> 00:29:26,720 out of making money off of something I had done. I mean, I 362 00:29:26,759 --> 00:29:30,000 guess maybe it's a matter of pride or principle, but at seventy six, 363 00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:37,039 I you know, just this, Don Henley, Relaxn't this a nefarious side 364 00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:41,160 in the in this as well? When you look at what the judge had 365 00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:45,160 said a review he said, quote A review of these newly discosed materials has 366 00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:52,000 demonstrated a highlight mister Henley and mister asov use of the privilege to shield themselves 367 00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:57,839 from a thorough and complete cross examination was said by Justin farmer So. In 368 00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:03,599 other words, because they withheld this information, the defense didn't get to cross 369 00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:07,799 examine them on it, didn't even get to know about it. So they're 370 00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:12,240 shielding themselves by keeping this close to the chest and not sharing the information when 371 00:30:12,319 --> 00:30:21,559 legally they had the legal what's the word I'm looking for requirement to disclose this 372 00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:26,759 information. They had no right to keep it secret under the guise of client 373 00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:30,640 attorney privilege, which is what they were doing. So the judges can olderly 374 00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:34,319 admonishing them for doing that. Because not only did they prevent important information from 375 00:30:34,359 --> 00:30:38,200 being released, but they also prevented the defense from being able to face their 376 00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:45,960 accuser. Yeah, it says here again. This is from Billboard. The 377 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:53,200 trial kicked off last month with In's attorney telling the judge the prosecutors had disorted 378 00:30:53,279 --> 00:30:59,480 the history to charge innocent men and the DA's office would be apologizing at the 379 00:30:59,559 --> 00:31:03,799 end of this case. Henley later testified that he had not willingly given away 380 00:31:03,839 --> 00:31:07,400 the notes, saying they were quote something very personal, very private, unquote. 381 00:31:07,559 --> 00:31:11,720 So it sounds to me like Henley and asof and their attorneys are trying 382 00:31:11,759 --> 00:31:15,960 to make it sound like these notes were stolen when actually he sounds like he 383 00:31:15,079 --> 00:31:19,400 gave it to them and forgot and never retrieved them. Well, again, 384 00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:23,839 it's it's an indelicate way of putting it, but but I do think it's 385 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:29,039 valid. These guys, again, the Eagles during the making of Hotel California. 386 00:31:29,119 --> 00:31:32,440 Who knows what the hell they did or can remember correctly or not. 387 00:31:32,559 --> 00:31:36,039 They were all cooked up. I'm not And and again it's it's an indelicate 388 00:31:36,039 --> 00:31:37,599 way of putting it, but it's just true. But you know what I 389 00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:41,480 mean, you think there's something in those papers that he doesn't want out there. 390 00:31:41,599 --> 00:31:45,559 No, I'm just saying, I'm just saying, who knows what? 391 00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:51,839 Who knows what conversations were had between Don Henley and back at nineteen and with 392 00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:53,960 this and this guy. I mean, who knows you even realized that he 393 00:31:55,039 --> 00:31:57,559 gave it to the writer with it at the time, Right, that's my 394 00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:00,599 I get that, I get that, But no matter what the situation was 395 00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:05,880 in that moment, it sounds like he just left the paperwork with the guy. 396 00:32:06,079 --> 00:32:07,440 Right, They never went back to the writer and said give me back 397 00:32:07,519 --> 00:32:10,880 my notes. Who knows, who knows just kind of shoved it all to 398 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:14,720 him, write me this book. And then somewhere along the line, dude 399 00:32:14,759 --> 00:32:16,720 goes, I got your book, and he goes, never mind. Yeah, 400 00:32:17,279 --> 00:32:22,799 that sounds like exactly what happened, because it never was actually published, 401 00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:27,880 it says here. On Wednesday's hearing, Justice Curtis said that Henley had recently 402 00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:32,640 handed over more than six thousand new pages of emails and other disclosures that contained 403 00:32:32,839 --> 00:32:39,720 new information about how Sanders came to own the notes. Such jarringly late disclosures 404 00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:49,799 violated Horowitz in CRT and Kazinski's constitutional rights. The judge said, yeah, 405 00:32:50,319 --> 00:32:55,119 six thousand. Come on, it's not like it's a single six thousand documents. 406 00:32:57,079 --> 00:33:00,920 Wow, that's an awful lot to be keeping secret it. Yeah, 407 00:33:00,839 --> 00:33:07,000 especially where obviously it was information that should have been provided under the disclosure of 408 00:33:07,039 --> 00:33:09,240 our rules, it says. An a statement to Billboard, horowitz Is attorney 409 00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:14,799 Jonathan back Bach said, quote, we are glad the DA's office made the 410 00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:16,480 right decision and finally dropped this case. It never should have been brought. 411 00:33:16,799 --> 00:33:22,680 Mister Horowitz looks forward to carrying on with his important work. Unquote well regardless. 412 00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:27,119 I mean again, I'm not any kind of illegal expert. Just as 413 00:33:27,119 --> 00:33:30,599 a layman, it sounds to me like this this was, if anything, 414 00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:35,599 a civil case, not a criminal one. Oh, these guys could have 415 00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:40,680 been facing real jail time. Yeah. Keeping that paperwork is literally put three 416 00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:46,240 people's lives in jeopardy. That's pretty hard, man, that's pretty bad. 417 00:33:46,559 --> 00:33:51,559 Yeah, so you're gonna have a lot of hate in your hat to want 418 00:33:51,599 --> 00:33:57,440 to ruin people's lives like that. I wonder what's in that book. What's 419 00:33:57,519 --> 00:34:00,880 in that never released book? Hmmm, Yes, we'll probably never know. 420 00:34:02,359 --> 00:34:06,920 I was looking to see if there was any kind of other update. But 421 00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:09,599 again it's like, you know, this is the really reason this just happened. 422 00:34:10,039 --> 00:34:15,679 Ye, just this past week was the case officially dismissed. And it's 423 00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:19,559 really it's also very telling when you look at it, because it's not the 424 00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:23,480 judge who dismissed the case. It's the prosecutors themselves who went to the judge 425 00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:29,320 and said, we need to pull back on this. We need to get 426 00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:31,119 rid of the charges. We're not going to prosecute now. I want to 427 00:34:31,159 --> 00:34:36,559 go back. I can't imagine prosecutor is liking to drop criminal charges too much, 428 00:34:36,639 --> 00:34:39,599 so this must have been interesting. Although Alvin Bragg got kind of has 429 00:34:39,639 --> 00:34:44,519 a handsful. I do want to think if you want to go back to 430 00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:47,599 uh. By the way, do you think Don Henley pays his lawyers? 431 00:34:49,599 --> 00:34:52,559 Probably? I might have him confused with somebody else. Anyway. I don't 432 00:34:52,559 --> 00:34:55,199 think he gets the way with not paying lawyers. I think there's only special 433 00:34:55,320 --> 00:35:00,159 class for that. Just for context, I do want to go back to 434 00:35:00,679 --> 00:35:07,599 there's a story here. This is from February twentieth, and this might add 435 00:35:07,639 --> 00:35:12,159 some context to what we're looking at now, which is the latest update. 436 00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:15,079 This is from the AP News. This is from February twentieth, But this 437 00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:20,480 kind of explains the foundation of the trial. Story titled Welcome to the Hotel 438 00:35:20,559 --> 00:35:24,800 California case, the trial over handwritten lyrics to an Eagles classic. It says, 439 00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:28,159 here in the mid seventies, Eagles, we're working on a spooky, 440 00:35:28,199 --> 00:35:32,920 cryptic news song. On a lined yellow pad, Don Henley, with input 441 00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:37,960 from band co founder Glen Fry, jotted thoughts about a dark desert highway and 442 00:35:38,119 --> 00:35:44,119 a lovely place with a luxurious surface and ominous undertones and something on ice, 443 00:35:44,159 --> 00:35:49,239 perhaps caviar or tatinger does that any say that? Or a pink champagne. 444 00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:53,000 The song Hotel California became one of rock's most indelible singles, and nearly half 445 00:35:53,079 --> 00:35:58,079 century later, those handwritten pages of lyrics in the making have become the center 446 00:35:58,119 --> 00:36:00,559 of an unusual criminal trial set to open and on Wednesday. So again, 447 00:36:00,639 --> 00:36:06,519 remember this is from February twentieth. Rare book dealer Glenn Horowitz, former Rock 448 00:36:06,559 --> 00:36:09,559 and Roll Hall of Famer curator Craig mcarti I finally figured out how to say 449 00:36:09,599 --> 00:36:20,199 his name, thank you, and memorabilia seller Edward Kazinski are charged with conspiring 450 00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:23,719 to own and try to sell manuscripts of Hotel California and other Eagles hits without 451 00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:28,280 the right to do so. The three have pleaded not guilty, and their 452 00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:32,320 lawyers have said the men committed no crime with the papers, which they acquired 453 00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:37,199 via a writer who'd worked with the Eagles. But the man okay, so 454 00:36:37,599 --> 00:36:40,119 so they these guys are not the writer. None of these guys are the 455 00:36:40,159 --> 00:36:45,119 writer of the book. They're claiming they got these from the writer. So 456 00:36:45,199 --> 00:36:49,800 we should clarify that because I wasn't clear on that myself. I didn't I 457 00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:52,840 wasn't clear on that either. So none of these three guys are the author 458 00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:55,559 of the book. They're they're they're all saying that they got they they came 459 00:36:55,599 --> 00:37:00,039 into possession of the notes from the writer of the so they have to prove 460 00:37:00,119 --> 00:37:05,239 that the writer didn't steal them. Yeah, all right, now we're getting 461 00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:09,000 Clara. Here we go. But it says but the Manhattan DIA's office says 462 00:37:09,039 --> 00:37:15,599 the defendants connived to obscure the document's disputed ownership despite knowing that Henley said the 463 00:37:15,679 --> 00:37:22,079 pages were stolen. Clashes over valuable collectibles abound, but criminal trials like this 464 00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:25,559 are rare. Many fights are resolved in private, in lawsuits or with agreement. 465 00:37:25,559 --> 00:37:29,519 Surtur in the items like I was saying, like it being a civil 466 00:37:29,559 --> 00:37:32,800 matter, not a criminal one. Right. Travis McDade, a University of 467 00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:37,920 Illinois law professor who studies rare document disputes said quote, if you can avoid 468 00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:40,960 a prosecution by handing over the thing, most people just hand it over unquote. 469 00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:45,239 Of course, the case of the Eagles manuscripts is distinctive in other ways 470 00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:51,559 too. The prosecutor star witnesses. Indeed that Henley is expected to testify between 471 00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:57,239 Eagles tourist stops. The non jury trial could offer a peek into the band's 472 00:37:57,280 --> 00:38:00,880 creative process and life in the fast lane of the seventies of seventies. Stardom 473 00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:07,639 at Issue are over eighty pages of draft lyrics from the blockbuster nineteen seventy six 474 00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:12,920 Hotel California album, including words to the chart topping Grammy winning title cut. 475 00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:16,599 It features one of classic rock's most recognizable riffs, best known solos, and 476 00:38:16,679 --> 00:38:22,280 most oft quoted, arguably over quoted lines you can check out any time you 477 00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:25,599 like, but you can never leave. Henley has said the song is about 478 00:38:25,639 --> 00:38:30,400 the dark underbelly of the American Dream. It's still streamed over two hundred twenty 479 00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:34,519 million times and got one hundred and thirty six thousand radio spins last year in 480 00:38:34,559 --> 00:38:38,960 the US alone. According to the entertainment data company Luminant, the Hotel California 481 00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:44,239 album has sold twenty six million copies nationwide over the years, bested only as 482 00:38:45,199 --> 00:38:50,719 bested only by an Eagle's Greatest Hits disc in Michael Jackson's Thriller. The pages 483 00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:53,880 also include lyrics from songs including Life in the fast Lane and New Kid in 484 00:38:53,960 --> 00:39:00,079 Town. Eagles manager Irving Azoff has called the documents irreplaceable pieces of musical history. 485 00:39:01,159 --> 00:39:06,880 Horrowitz, INCRT, and Kazinski are charged with conspiracy to possess stolen property 486 00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:12,800 and various other offenses. They're not charged with actually stealing documents, nor is 487 00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:16,480 anyone else, but prosecutors will still have to establish that the documents were stolen. 488 00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:21,960 The defense maintains that's not true, and I think that's where the rub 489 00:39:22,079 --> 00:39:27,000 is. How do you prove that the documents were stolen? Much turns on 490 00:39:27,079 --> 00:39:30,719 the Eagles interactions with Okay, this is the context I was looking for. 491 00:39:30,159 --> 00:39:36,000 Much turns on the Eagles interactions with Ed Sanders, a writer who also co 492 00:39:36,199 --> 00:39:40,760 founded the nineteen sixties counterculture rock band The Fogs. Fugs got to be careful 493 00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:45,679 how I say that on the air. He worked in the I don't even 494 00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:46,960 want to pronounce it the way I think it's supposed to be pronounced, because 495 00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:51,639 again, we're on FM radio. He worked in the late seventies and early 496 00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:57,760 eighties on an authorized Eagles biography that was never published. Sanders is not charged 497 00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:01,880 in the case. A phone message seeking comment was left for him. He 498 00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:07,199 sold the pages to Horowitz, who then sold them to INCRTI and Kazinski. 499 00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:13,400 Okay, so the writer ed Sanders. He took those documents and he sold 500 00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:17,440 them to Horowitz, one of the three guys who was charged, who then 501 00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:22,559 sold them to the other two guys who are charged. Horowitz has handled huge 502 00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:29,119 rare book and archive deals, and he's been entangled in some ownership spats before, 503 00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:34,440 one involved papers linked to Gone with the Wind author Margaret Mitchell that was 504 00:40:34,559 --> 00:40:37,960 settled INCIARTI worked on notable exhibitions for the Cleveland based Rock and Roll Hall. 505 00:40:38,119 --> 00:40:42,800 I'm sorry, rock Hall of Fame, not the Rock and Roll Hall of 506 00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:46,360 Fame, the Rock Hall of Fame. Kazinski has been a principal and gotta 507 00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:53,840 have it collectibles known for auctioning celebrities personal possessions, so personal that Madonna unsuccessfully 508 00:40:54,039 --> 00:41:00,719 sued to try to stop a sale that included her latex briefs. If only 509 00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:07,079 we note about that when we did the Madonna segment. Yes, those were 510 00:41:07,119 --> 00:41:12,840 auctioned off apparently, Uh, Henry, well, you know I know what 511 00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:19,480 anybody wait, listen, it's Madonna. She don't care what anybody's used son 512 00:41:19,559 --> 00:41:23,239 to Madonna. It's Madonna, though you don't know that, Yes, I 513 00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:29,559 do not Madonna. She does. Everybody does. How dare you? She 514 00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:34,639 is named after the mother of our Lord. I don't think so. There 515 00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:43,679 is an R E M song about that. I think everybody fus. Henley 516 00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:46,280 told a grand jury that he never gave the biographer of the lyrics, according 517 00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:52,239 to court filings from Kazinski's lawyers, but defense lawyers have signaled that they planned 518 00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:59,960 to probe Henley's memory of the time. We believe that mister Anley voluntarily provided 519 00:42:00,039 --> 00:42:04,199 the lyrics to mister Sanders unquote, Attorney Scott Edelman said in court last week. 520 00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:07,719 Now, by the way, so Henley's not claiming that these three guys 521 00:42:07,599 --> 00:42:12,360 stole anything. He's claiming that the author ed Sanders, is the one who 522 00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:16,159 stole and they have possession of a stolen property. But possessing stolen property is 523 00:42:16,159 --> 00:42:22,000 a crime, and what were they trying to sell it? So were they 524 00:42:22,159 --> 00:42:25,599 trying to sell them? Yeah? Apparently yes, so stolen property, so 525 00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:30,480 they're trying to sell them. So now that we have more context, now 526 00:42:30,519 --> 00:42:34,039 I'm starting to flip back to saying, maybe this I can see why. 527 00:42:34,559 --> 00:42:37,800 I can see why this was considered a criminal case and not civil because if 528 00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:45,480 there is alleged theft involved, right, but he was hiding six thousand ages 529 00:42:45,519 --> 00:42:52,519 of documentation, right. That apparently refutes that and insists that they willingly gave 530 00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:57,480 the documents to the writer intending on having a book about them. Yeah, 531 00:42:57,599 --> 00:43:00,719 and then squshed the book and never took back their documents. Yeah. I 532 00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:04,800 mean, if the charges were probably against these guys until twenty twenty two, 533 00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:07,360 for all we know, there could be something in those emails about, you 534 00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:10,199 know, a conversation they had at Studio fifty four. I don't that they 535 00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:15,800 were emails at Studio fifty four, no, but I'm saying maybe referencing a 536 00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:19,719 conversation they had at Studio fifty four about the lyrics or something that Don Henley 537 00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:25,000 now can't remember something, or previous documents from like long ago that they maybe 538 00:43:25,079 --> 00:43:29,079 from starting the book. Talk because back in the day when poly C and 539 00:43:29,119 --> 00:43:30,880 I used to hang out at Studio fifty four with Share and all that, 540 00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:35,760 I think I remember seeing Don Henley there. That's a little bit inside. 541 00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:43,480 But if you're a if you're a WMNH devote you know reference please Sanders sold 542 00:43:43,519 --> 00:43:45,159 Horowitz in two thousand and five that while working on the Eagles book, he 543 00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:50,199 was sent whatever papers he wanted from Henley's home in Malibu, California. According 544 00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:57,000 to the indictment, Wait a minute, though, Yeah see, yeah, 545 00:43:57,159 --> 00:43:59,679 what do you mean, Wait a minute? What? So he says, 546 00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:01,880 so he was sent whatever he needed for the book. Basically, uh huh. 547 00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:07,280 If I were if I were an author, if I were working on 548 00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:08,800 a book for somebody and they were sending me papers, I wouldn't just assume, 549 00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:12,039 well, these are mine to do whatever I want with. Correct. 550 00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:15,679 But if you've had them in your possession since nineteen seventy, how long in 551 00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:19,639 your possession right until they've become yours and you are able to get rid of 552 00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:23,239 them right or right? Are you ever able to do that right? That's 553 00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:29,760 an interesting conundrum, it says. Then Kazinski's business offered some pages at auction 554 00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:34,760 in twenty twelve. Henley's attorneys came knocking, and Horowitz and Crdy and Sanders, 555 00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:39,320 in varying combinations, began batting around alternate versions of the manuscript's providence. 556 00:44:39,519 --> 00:44:45,400 The indictment says, yeah, interesting, it sounds so, according to the 557 00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:49,159 indictment, they tried to muddy the waters about you know how these doctors by 558 00:44:49,159 --> 00:44:53,639 the way, But once again, though just from Don Henley's perspective, and 559 00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:58,199 I understand pride and principle and all that, but this seventy six year old 560 00:44:58,199 --> 00:45:01,119 man, who's already extremely wealthy, if he gets if he stops this from 561 00:45:01,199 --> 00:45:07,199 happening, what what does he get out of it? Financially? Nothing? 562 00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:13,920 Right, But if somebody else, unless he's looking to regain regain the control 563 00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:16,280 over those papers, get him back and then he can sell them himself for 564 00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:19,679 more money. But he's probably not going to sell him He probably just wants 565 00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:21,920 him back. How do you know that? Well, I don't know that 566 00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:23,920 money out But that's why he's doing the lawsuit. The first one. But 567 00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:28,679 if somebody else can sell him, there might be an Eagles fan who wants 568 00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:34,519 to spend the month. I mean's just what diehard Eagles fan would want to 569 00:45:34,679 --> 00:45:38,920 have, right, So at a certain point, what's it matter? Again? 570 00:45:39,079 --> 00:45:43,559 I'm just saying, why does this guy want to go? Why does 571 00:45:43,639 --> 00:45:46,159 Don Henley want to do all that? Now, by the way, publicity 572 00:45:46,199 --> 00:45:51,239 out of it. I do understand why in one sense. Because I do 573 00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:54,480 understand why in one sense because he is Don Henley, and this is consistent 574 00:45:54,639 --> 00:45:59,320 with everything that we've heard over the years about him as a person. In 575 00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:05,400 his personality has he always been a loss, not necessarily re ligious, but 576 00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:09,519 he's known for having a very prickly personality. I really don't know much about 577 00:46:09,519 --> 00:46:12,360 the man. I just know some of the music. I mean, I'm 578 00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:16,400 a fan of his music. But there have been some pretty consistently some unpleasant 579 00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:22,760 things said about him as a person. He's never been a nice guy as 580 00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:25,840 far as I can tell, just from what people say about him. I'm 581 00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:29,800 trying to think of something nice that someone's ever said about Don Henley, and 582 00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:34,239 nothing leaps to mind. That's terrible as a person, that's terrible. Yeah, 583 00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:37,840 that's just my impression. I don't know, that's just my impression. 584 00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:44,519 It says in one story, Sanders found the pages discarded in a backstage dressing 585 00:46:44,559 --> 00:46:47,480 room. In others, he got them from a stage assistant or while amassing 586 00:46:47,559 --> 00:46:51,840 quote a lot of material related to the Eagles from different people unquote, And 587 00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:55,280 yet another story, he obtained them from Glenn Fry, an account that quote 588 00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:59,920 would make this go away once and for all unquote, Horowitz suggested in twenty 589 00:47:00,079 --> 00:47:06,360 seventeen, but then Glenn Fry died the year before Wow twenty sixteen, Glenfry 590 00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:12,639 died. Quote. He merely needs gentle handling and reassurance that he's not getting 591 00:47:13,199 --> 00:47:16,159 that he's not going to the can unquote. Horrorwitz emailed nclady during a twenty 592 00:47:16,199 --> 00:47:22,079 twelve exchange about getting Sanders explanation shaped into a communication to auctioneers. The indictment 593 00:47:22,159 --> 00:47:28,840 says Sanders supplied or signed off on some of the varying explanations. According to 594 00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:32,159 the indictment, and it's unclear what he may have conveyed verbally, but he 595 00:47:32,239 --> 00:47:37,480 apparently rejected at least the dressing room tale. And by the way, that's 596 00:47:37,559 --> 00:47:43,360 something that's that we've heard you know, like the Beatles, for example. 597 00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:47,719 You know somebody picks up lyrics, handwritten lyrics or notes left behind in a 598 00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:52,760 dressing room or backstage, you know, at a at a concert or in 599 00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:58,119 a recording studio, just somebody leaves something behind, somebody else picks it up. 600 00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:01,519 Who really owns it? At that point? You know? Is it 601 00:48:01,599 --> 00:48:06,239 stealing? If somebody leaves something behind and it doesn't look like they care about 602 00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:09,159 it and you pick it up, is that is that theft? I mean, 603 00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:13,280 it is unethical, I think if you're oh, yeah, but if 604 00:48:14,119 --> 00:48:20,360 in that in that situation. But Kazinski, Uh, I'm gonna skip down. 605 00:48:20,559 --> 00:48:23,440 This gets pretty in depth. But okay, so I'm gonna skip down 606 00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:28,159 a little bit. But Sotheby's listed the Hotel California song lyrics in a twenty 607 00:48:28,199 --> 00:48:32,679 sixteen auction, but withdrew them after learning the ownership wasn't question. Yeah, 608 00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:38,039 because Southeby's doesn't want to end up in any kind of legal He's he apparently 609 00:48:38,119 --> 00:48:43,800 does go after everything. I'm looking at some notations from someone else who's saying 610 00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:47,639 you can rarely find any of the Eagles on his or his solo material on 611 00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:52,559 YouTube. When a video of their music gets uploaded, it's quickly removed. 612 00:48:52,119 --> 00:48:57,159 He's strict about not allowing people to take pictures of videos at Eagle concerts. 613 00:48:57,320 --> 00:49:00,719 Yeah. He also doesn't seem to like people who his music in public places. 614 00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:07,119 Wow. Yeah, he's that's his reputation. That's all consistent with everything 615 00:49:07,159 --> 00:49:09,119 that we know about Don Henley. The worst of the worst examples of him 616 00:49:09,199 --> 00:49:15,039 being overprotective include that one time when he sued because of a hotel in Mexico 617 00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:21,639 that had the name Hotel California. He also sued Deluth Trading Company because of 618 00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:25,199 a T shirt containing the words don Uh Henley and take it Easy, and 619 00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:30,760 even sued a foundation that helps protect Eagles in America because he felt they were 620 00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:37,960 infringing on the band's name. He wasn't happy about Frank ocean sambling Hotel California 621 00:49:37,199 --> 00:49:42,599 and went as far as to call him a cussword and attack him. Despite 622 00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:47,000 his popularity at the time, Eagles shows are also some of the most expensive 623 00:49:47,199 --> 00:49:51,719 ticket wise, Yes, especially for a band that hasn't released a new single 624 00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:59,199 in thirty years. Wow, there was a I guess the reason this came 625 00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:02,239 up. I guess was there was a video some old commercials that were removed 626 00:50:02,360 --> 00:50:08,320 and got copyright strikes issued on YouTube because Henley's song New York Minute was used 627 00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:13,679 for a few seconds in a promo for a TV show, which probably made 628 00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:17,639 up about five percent of the entire video. Yeah. Yeah, apparently he's 629 00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:23,320 quite quite the protective individual, for lack of a better term. Yeah, 630 00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:30,519 and and you know, that's all fine in the sense that, look, 631 00:50:30,639 --> 00:50:37,079 you should protect your intellectual property and so forth. But but at a certain 632 00:50:37,119 --> 00:50:40,760 point, some of it seems a little petty, you know. Yeah, 633 00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:47,880 But yeah, I think it's sad really that he is this protective, because 634 00:50:49,039 --> 00:50:52,320 I think it hurts in the long run, like not having people listening to 635 00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:55,679 your music on YouTube. Yeah, what's why not? Why wouldn't you want 636 00:50:55,719 --> 00:51:00,400 your music to stay alive and in the public eye. Why be that, 637 00:51:01,519 --> 00:51:04,800 Like, do you want it to the best way to fade something away is 638 00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:07,239 to keep it out of the public eye. Yeah, well, I mean 639 00:51:08,079 --> 00:51:12,159 then again, he may look at it as he never asked to worry about 640 00:51:12,199 --> 00:51:15,800 that really, and neither do the Eagles, because look, you could probably 641 00:51:16,719 --> 00:51:22,920 turn on Rock one O one right now and hear an Eagles song, you 642 00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:25,559 know what I mean? Like, because of classic rock, the classic rock 643 00:51:25,679 --> 00:51:31,079 radio format. They never really have to worry about it, and they'll always 644 00:51:31,119 --> 00:51:38,880 be able to charge enormous sums of money for their tours, and so they 645 00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:44,079 do have stuff on YouTube of them though, Yeah he must. He probably 646 00:51:44,159 --> 00:51:46,840 just go finds one and goes after that one person and then finds somebody else. 647 00:51:47,599 --> 00:51:52,320 Maybe that's how he passes his time. I think it's sad though, 648 00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:55,360 I really do, because I mean I would I would think that an artist 649 00:51:55,400 --> 00:52:00,760 would want their their music to never be forgotten and to have it be wide 650 00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:02,079 and far. But I might be wrong. I mean I could be wrong 651 00:52:02,159 --> 00:52:08,480 in this. I think it doesn't sound like anybody stole anything. It sounds 652 00:52:08,559 --> 00:52:10,960 like they turned over stuff for a book and never took it back. Well 653 00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:15,880 who knows, I mean, we don't know exactly what happened there. And 654 00:52:15,119 --> 00:52:20,320 well we know he gave him the stuff in nineteen seventies, and there's no 655 00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:22,920 evidence to prove that he's ever sued or anything to fight to get documents back. 656 00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:27,239 Right, he didn't care about them until they turned up in somebody else's 657 00:52:27,320 --> 00:52:32,000 possession. Yeah, So because you forgot something doesn't make it theft, right, 658 00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:38,079 who's your responsibility to retrieve your belongings. It's not the other person's responsibility 659 00:52:38,119 --> 00:52:43,360 to bring it to you in my opinion. Yeah, I don't know. 660 00:52:44,039 --> 00:52:46,119 I'll be curious to see. So this has been dropped just to kind of 661 00:52:46,119 --> 00:52:51,000 put a button on it. It's been dropped as a criminal matter. But 662 00:52:51,079 --> 00:52:54,480 well that doesn't end it, because he is vowing to sue them civilly. 663 00:52:54,719 --> 00:52:58,000 Yeah. Yeah, So we'll have to stay tuned to see if there's another 664 00:52:58,079 --> 00:53:00,440 court case coming up. Well that's what you do, right, I mean, 665 00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:02,760 if if it doesn't work out criminally, you know, you always have 666 00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:07,079 that option. Yep. All right, Well we are uh, we are 667 00:53:07,119 --> 00:53:09,239 approaching the top of the hour. I think we're gonna play another I'm gonna 668 00:53:09,239 --> 00:53:14,280 play another song from another studio track from Temple Mountain, who was our amazing 669 00:53:14,920 --> 00:53:16,280 guests in the first hour, and we'll take a break, show some love 670 00:53:16,320 --> 00:53:19,679 to our amazing sponsors, and then we have an amazing guest. I assume 671 00:53:19,679 --> 00:53:22,280 that's well, yes, in the waiting room, Casey Darren is here. 672 00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:23,920 He's going to be joining us in the third hour, and is he playing 673 00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:30,920 or excellent? Excellent? So we've got plenty more to come here on Matt 674 00:53:30,079 --> 00:53:34,559 Connorton unleash. We are, of course, live from the studios of WM 675 00:53:34,599 --> 00:53:36,639 and H ninety five point three a FM, which by the way, is 676 00:53:36,719 --> 00:53:39,119 part of down. This is part of downtown Manchester. That's part of downtown. 677 00:53:39,239 --> 00:53:44,400 I even posted from Downtown Manchester. If you don't know what I'm referring 678 00:53:44,440 --> 00:53:47,320 to. We we finally settled that last night on Retrospectrum Radio because a number 679 00:53:47,360 --> 00:53:52,880 of years ago here on WM and H there was there was some some disagreement 680 00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:55,639 over what is down Is downtown Elm Street or is it Elm Street and the 681 00:53:55,679 --> 00:54:00,519 surrounding area, And last night on Retrospectrum Radio, all the years later, 682 00:54:00,559 --> 00:54:02,599 I finally I said, let's answer the question. And I found on the 683 00:54:02,679 --> 00:54:07,719 official website for the city a definition of what is downtown and it was very 684 00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:15,000 specific actually, but yes it does include we are still considered downtown Manchester, 685 00:54:15,079 --> 00:54:17,559 even though we are now on Canal Street, because Canal Street is part of 686 00:54:17,639 --> 00:54:22,239 downtown, not making it sound like it's secondary. Yes it is. We 687 00:54:22,360 --> 00:54:25,800 are still there you go downtown. Still we are not still well, I 688 00:54:25,880 --> 00:54:30,440 say still because if downtown were only Elm Street then we would no longer be 689 00:54:30,519 --> 00:54:37,840 doing We don't move. I don't know what that was anyway, that weird 690 00:54:37,199 --> 00:54:43,079 sound. I think that went out on the air. I hope it did, 691 00:54:43,159 --> 00:54:45,440 because if it didn't, then people are going to think I'm hearing weird 692 00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:50,639 noises and maybe have been saying maybe I'm crazy. All right, let's play. 693 00:54:50,760 --> 00:54:53,039 We're gonna play another track from Schema. Is the name of the album. 694 00:54:53,079 --> 00:54:57,079 The artist is Temple Mountain. This is called Resilience. And then we'll 695 00:54:57,079 --> 00:55:00,480 show some love to our amazing sponsors, and then we'll be back. Who 696 00:55:00,559 --> 00:55:04,519 knows, maybe Don Henley will sue us for something and we'll be back. 697 00:55:05,320 --> 00:55:07,599 Casey Darren is here, it will be joining us, So don't go away. 698 00:55:07,639 --> 00:55:45,480 Plenty more to come. Started with a phone call, hurt by all 699 00:55:45,519 --> 00:55:52,440 the sounds. He claims he's good to you, but we all know the 700 00:55:52,559 --> 00:56:02,039 truth. He's not around. And you think you understand me. You claim 701 00:56:02,079 --> 00:56:10,320 to be so proud, but I see all the stress and brutes far away. 702 00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:22,320 I hear you cry aloud. But there's something more you and I see 703 00:56:22,400 --> 00:56:31,280 it every day. It's not your fault, so they do you just have 704 00:56:31,480 --> 00:56:38,199 to look away away. You were in honest, and that's not alone. 705 00:56:38,800 --> 00:56:45,400 But the one that told you knew how to play with sound. You were 706 00:56:45,519 --> 00:56:52,199 in honest and I swear it's alive because all your mistakes were wit, mystery 707 00:56:52,360 --> 00:57:22,920 or right. So you found yourself a doctor who encourages lies. Now I 708 00:57:22,119 --> 00:57:27,880 found a doctor to and I'm the one who has to take a side. 709 00:57:31,960 --> 00:57:40,039 And I never had respect for the way you look in pride. Now my 710 00:57:40,239 --> 00:57:51,119 eyes are torn and bruised. I'll never truly see a clear outside. But 711 00:57:51,239 --> 00:58:00,760 there's something more you and I see it every day. That's your fault, 712 00:58:00,199 --> 00:58:09,320 they do you just have to look away away. You are no honest and 713 00:58:09,679 --> 00:58:15,079 that's not allowed. For the one that told you you are to play with 714 00:58:15,239 --> 00:58:22,719 sounds, you were an honest and I swear it's a lie because all your 715 00:58:22,880 --> 00:58:36,360 mistakes were when this story arrived. So when I came to you, why 716 00:58:36,360 --> 00:58:40,440 do you run away? And when I mane told you you never try and 717 00:58:40,599 --> 00:58:49,719 stay? Oh, let the fire you nights. I'll still call tonight. 718 00:58:52,760 --> 00:59:01,000 But there's something more you and I see it every day. It's not your 719 00:59:01,159 --> 00:59:09,199 faults, are they do? You just had to look away away. You 720 00:59:09,679 --> 00:59:16,079 weren't honest, and that's not allowed. But the one that told you knew 721 00:59:16,159 --> 00:59:22,639 how to play with sounds, you were honest and that's just a lie because 722 00:59:22,800 --> 00:59:30,119 all your mistakes were witness through your eyes. You weren't honest and that's not 723 00:59:30,360 --> 00:59:36,519 allowed. For the one that told you knew how to play with sounds. 724 00:59:37,360 --> 00:59:45,039 You weren't honest, and I swear that's lie because all your mistakes were witness of your