1 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:14,199 Hey, what's going on with people? Clipper fans? Is me like bird 2 00:00:14,279 --> 00:00:19,239 of the posting triumvirant here at clips and Dick. But we're coming at you 3 00:00:19,399 --> 00:00:22,879 after a disappointing end to the Clipper season, to be sure, to be 4 00:00:23,039 --> 00:00:27,519 sure. But hey, just because the Clippers are done doesn't mean we're done. 5 00:00:27,559 --> 00:00:30,879 Baby. We're still bringing you that sweet, sweet Clippers content. We're 6 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:35,439 gonna talk a little bit. So the official injury designation was released today for 7 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:38,759 Kawhi Leonard. We're gonna talk a little bit about that. We're gonna talk 8 00:00:38,759 --> 00:00:43,280 about the series as a whole um and also a little bit about our dearly 9 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:49,600 departed brother, Noah Eagle, not dearly departed very much. Still pour one 10 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:52,479 out, Pour one out for the big dog, all you little birds out 11 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:55,479 there, all right. We're also gonna talk a little bit about some playoff 12 00:00:55,479 --> 00:00:58,119 grades. We're gonna we're gonna be doing this sort of as a rolling thing. 13 00:00:58,359 --> 00:01:00,560 I think we'll go back and revit the regular season, but first we're 14 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:03,439 gonna talk playoffs. We're gonna be talking to taylu We're gonna talking to Russell 15 00:01:03,479 --> 00:01:06,840 Westbrook. So all that and more. But hey, I'm babbyled On for 16 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:08,519 long Eno. You get the idea what the show is about, but now 17 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:11,719 you get to meet the other host and get the field. Baby. I'm 18 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:18,480 joined by Charles Mockler and Adam Oslin. Adam for people who aren't viewing on 19 00:01:18,519 --> 00:01:23,400 the video, he has changed his name to say that he already misses Noah. 20 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:25,640 So how's it going for you, buddy? You kind of had a 21 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:30,920 double loss. Yeah, it was bitter sweet because I'm happy for Noah Eagle 22 00:01:30,439 --> 00:01:37,280 and he's gonna become one of the greatest broadcasters in the history of the exist. 23 00:01:37,599 --> 00:01:41,799 I would agree with that, But let me tell you how much I 24 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:45,920 like Noah Eagle and enjoyed working with him. When he first told me, 25 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:49,239 probably a month or so ago that he was going to be leaving after this 26 00:01:49,359 --> 00:01:56,719 season. Instead of me immediately going to congratulations on the job, I just 27 00:01:56,760 --> 00:02:02,079 said, fuck, you're upset immediately after. Just a visceral response for me 28 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:07,000 because I love him. And so we drove out myself, Bob with a 29 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:10,479 Jake Warner, a head engineer Crypto dot com arena. We drove out to 30 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:19,039 Phoenix late or early Monday, early Tuesday morning, caught there surprised Noah. 31 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:21,879 He didn't know we were gonna show up. We haven't done a road game 32 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:24,400 before. I haven't been out on the road with the Clippers before. But 33 00:02:24,439 --> 00:02:28,000 the Phoenix Suns were very accommodating. They were like, yeah, you can 34 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:30,639 do the whole postgame show afterwards, so there was no conflict there. They 35 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:37,000 were so nice. I can't say enough about Suns pr and their engineer there. 36 00:02:37,039 --> 00:02:45,120 They were so nice and just hospitable. They are I just I had 37 00:02:45,159 --> 00:02:47,560 to go through the Suns for this. So it was the arena at Footprint 38 00:02:47,599 --> 00:02:52,800 Center. But we walk in and there's a video of it at fall Out 39 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:54,560 of May. We surprised Noah Eagle. He had no idea. He just 40 00:02:54,639 --> 00:03:00,439 kept saying no, no, Because we had set him up during the day. 41 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:05,719 We did our usual chat in the text thread, like, oh, 42 00:03:05,759 --> 00:03:07,840 wherever you are, big brother, Jake Warner's got to be worried his Lucky 43 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:14,000 Chucks like all that stuff was still going on. So we set him up 44 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:16,719 nicely, um and I think I think we set him off the right way. 45 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:22,879 Unfortunately, the Clippers couldn't get the w but didn't extended postgame show reminisce 46 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:29,759 a little bit, played a pit bull cameo. The greatest pit Bull impersonator 47 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:32,560 in the world who's on cameo. I couldn't get the real one for Noah 48 00:03:32,599 --> 00:03:36,439 because you know, the three or five mark of every quarter he would say, 49 00:03:36,439 --> 00:03:38,800 shout out pit Bull, mister three or five people, I think in 50 00:03:38,879 --> 00:03:43,400 an ironic fashion, because you know, pit Bull's almost so bad as good. 51 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:54,800 So I got this cameo done from a pit Bull impersonator and thanked Noah 52 00:03:54,800 --> 00:04:00,240 for the shout outs over the years and congratulating him. We had a nice 53 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:04,199 piece done by our imaging guy, Adam by seventy with different people at the 54 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:08,919 station wishing Noah the best, and so it was. It was tough. 55 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:12,319 It's still tough. It's all surreal to me, you know. From the 56 00:04:12,319 --> 00:04:18,680 Patriot, No graphic from the Patriot AM eleven fifty. It was a simulcast 57 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:24,439 last night, but we drove back after the game. So I'm a little 58 00:04:25,199 --> 00:04:28,480 my nerves are afraid a little bit. I'm just a little punch drunk and 59 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:31,959 tired. But it's gonna be here with you guys, even though the circumstances 60 00:04:31,959 --> 00:04:36,879 aren't the best. Sure, punch drunk and tired is a very I feel 61 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:40,319 the same way, and I didn't Drive to Phoenix. I just feel that 62 00:04:40,399 --> 00:04:45,680 way after that Clippers effort and game vibe came up short. I'm just happy 63 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:47,680 they made it an interesting game. It could have been real ugly in Phoenix 64 00:04:47,759 --> 00:04:50,920 to end the season, but they you know, if they made some things 65 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:55,120 happen, I guess that kind of was beautiful. Instead, it was a 66 00:04:55,160 --> 00:05:00,040 beautiful loss. Um, what do we think about kind of this series as 67 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:04,720 a whole, Because I thought Game five was a really nice example of how 68 00:05:04,759 --> 00:05:09,639 hard it was for the Clippers to overcome anything without Kawai and Paul George, 69 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:14,560 right, because we got Zoo and Betune were great last night, but they 70 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:16,759 couldn't be good when Russ was really playing out of his mind in a couple 71 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:21,240 of those games. So and like that balance, I just think shows really 72 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:25,399 if you didn't think it was that much of an uphill battle for the Clippers, 73 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:30,439 I think last night really showed the issues. So to me, it 74 00:05:30,519 --> 00:05:32,800 was kind of the epitome of this series as a whole. It was really 75 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:35,879 emblematic of what this series was, and I think you kind of even have 76 00:05:35,959 --> 00:05:42,000 to erase the the you know, the first two games for what this series 77 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:46,600 became. But I mean I thought It was really impressive the way that this 78 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:51,120 you know, just this depth was at times standing toe to toe with this 79 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:55,839 Phoenix team that is, you know, like widely expected to be the front 80 00:05:55,920 --> 00:06:00,040 runner in the West, and you know, when it was going well, 81 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:03,360 they were getting, you know, the performances they've come to expect, or 82 00:06:03,399 --> 00:06:10,680 above average average performances from role players. When it wasn't going well, you 83 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:13,279 know, you saw sort of the call disparity, which I thought did even 84 00:06:13,319 --> 00:06:15,839 itself out a little bit in that game five. I thought that that was 85 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:19,079 one of the things that helped the Clippers. I think the you know, 86 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:24,639 the big things were just execution and turnovers, and that, to me really 87 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:27,839 is the story of this series. Like that's why it wasn't even closer, 88 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:30,839 or why why they couldn't force a sixth game or maybe even a seventh. 89 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:34,680 You know, I wouldn't go as far as to say that that alone could 90 00:06:34,759 --> 00:06:39,759 could propel them to a win in this series, but it was just kind 91 00:06:39,759 --> 00:06:44,040 of those little execution things and some of the role players not getting the performances 92 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:46,560 that we expected, and of course, you know, to a certain degree, 93 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:47,839 the calls as well, although that's a little bit out of your control. 94 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:51,439 That that was really the difference in this series. And I thought, 95 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:56,240 basically, if I'm remembering correctly, an Adam, you have a way better 96 00:06:56,279 --> 00:07:00,319 memory than me. But like the last three offensive possessions when the game was 97 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:05,720 still a game, I believe it was Russell Westbrook turnover followed by a normal 98 00:07:05,759 --> 00:07:11,720 Powell turnover, followed by another Russell Westbrook turnover, And there might have been 99 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:15,000 I think it was something like that, Like it might have been well the 100 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:18,360 Bones Highland smoked layup I think was a little earlier, but it was, 101 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:24,720 you know, it was basically back to back to back empty possessions, and 102 00:07:25,439 --> 00:07:29,319 I mean that's kind of where this series was lost, right They just I 103 00:07:29,319 --> 00:07:31,439 mean, the Clippers can't even we we joked about it on the Clippers Pod 104 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:38,319 Twitter, but like but inbounds passes. Yeah, I think think those kinds 105 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:41,160 of things coming back to kind of hurt the Clippers was tough to see. 106 00:07:41,199 --> 00:07:46,480 Adam. Did you think Game five kind of represented most of this series? 107 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:49,319 Because I like what we'll said about kind of forgetting like in the context of 108 00:07:49,319 --> 00:07:53,279 the whole series, those first two games obviously with Kawhi playing, if he 109 00:07:53,279 --> 00:07:57,800 plays the whole series, Clippers, I have a much better chance probably, 110 00:07:57,879 --> 00:08:01,439 I would say now that we've seen this Sun team get out of this series 111 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:05,519 with Kauhi, but those well, three games without a man, it was 112 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:09,720 just like, it's as much as the Clippers could do. I think, 113 00:08:11,399 --> 00:08:15,240 yeah, it was just too much to overcome. I wouldn't be feeling great 114 00:08:15,319 --> 00:08:18,240 or that confident if I was a Phoenix Suns fan based upon how much the 115 00:08:18,279 --> 00:08:22,720 Clippers pushed them and how competitive they were in the last three games, or 116 00:08:22,759 --> 00:08:26,759 they could have won all three of them. I think in all three they 117 00:08:26,839 --> 00:08:31,160 led by double digits at some point, and in Game five they led by 118 00:08:31,279 --> 00:08:33,679 ten in the second half. I think it was the latest in a game 119 00:08:33,759 --> 00:08:39,399 they were up by double digits. Obviously things flipped around in that third quarter 120 00:08:39,519 --> 00:08:43,200 or the Suns put up a fifty spot, but I was proud of damn. 121 00:08:43,279 --> 00:08:46,159 That was like twenty five. He had half their points in that quarter. 122 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:52,120 He had twenty five unconscious from the outside, was getting to the basket. 123 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:56,519 Showed a lot more juice than I think people expected to see. His 124 00:08:56,679 --> 00:09:00,480 competing is crazy. That's something that like people talk about staff and stuff like 125 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:03,200 that, but I think Book not as much as staff, because just of 126 00:09:03,279 --> 00:09:07,639 his role but like books, conditioning is pretty on point for someone who's that 127 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:11,080 active and coming into the series. One of the advantages or one of the 128 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:16,000 things playing in the Clippers favor that we mentioned was the Suns don't have a 129 00:09:16,039 --> 00:09:18,120 lot of guys that beat you off the dribble. Yeah, I think Devin 130 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:22,080 Booker proved that he can be one of those guys when he needs to be. 131 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:26,440 And what is he twenty seven, twenty eight, He's coming into his 132 00:09:26,519 --> 00:09:30,720 prime, He's still getting better. He's a really hard worker. So you're 133 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:35,480 seeing the young master. He's twenty six with an October birthday, so he's 134 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:41,519 like a young twenty six right, with a lot of a playoff experience over 135 00:09:41,519 --> 00:09:46,720 the last couple of seasons now after getting none early on. So he's coming 136 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:50,080 into his own and kind of having a moment and did against the Clippers? 137 00:09:50,159 --> 00:09:52,440 Does it happen if Kawhi and Paul George are there? Does he score the 138 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:56,519 same amount? Is he pushed more on the defensive end and that wears him 139 00:09:56,559 --> 00:10:00,440 out? Likely? I think if just one of those guys was there. 140 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:03,559 You know, I don't want to sound like sour grapes or anything like that, 141 00:10:03,639 --> 00:10:09,159 but I think it's fair and just based upon how these games played out. 142 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:13,720 If they just had Kawhi Leonard in this series, I think the Clippers 143 00:10:13,799 --> 00:10:16,759 likely win. Um. Yeah, they had him and Paul George. I 144 00:10:16,759 --> 00:10:20,519 think it's obvious to most that they would have won this series. That once 145 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:26,720 again they look like one of the ultimate what if stories. We're talking Grant 146 00:10:26,799 --> 00:10:31,519 Hill and Tracy McGrady hooking up. Is turning into that this error is being 147 00:10:31,559 --> 00:10:37,360 defined by injuries like Greg like it's there's a lot of parallels, which is 148 00:10:37,399 --> 00:10:41,840 tough. Um. We we kind of we've talked about Kawhi. We all 149 00:10:41,919 --> 00:10:48,519 found out this morning that Kawai uh tore his meniscus in Game one, which, 150 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:52,799 for those of you don't know, meniscus is uh basically what keeps your 151 00:10:52,919 --> 00:10:56,919 mecap on. Kind of. Um, he's currently weighing his rehab options. 152 00:10:58,440 --> 00:11:01,000 Most people, from what I saw there was that one doctor account will But 153 00:11:01,039 --> 00:11:05,320 I think we talked about when PG got hurt Bryan Center. Yeah, he 154 00:11:05,399 --> 00:11:09,960 was talking about how it's like a six week thing, so this shouldn't As 155 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:13,879 of April twenty six at six thirty six pm, all the information we have 156 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:20,559 right now leads us to believe that this won't really be an issue next season, 157 00:11:22,559 --> 00:11:26,759 but who knows because Kawai all the reporters saying he's still kind of deciding 158 00:11:26,759 --> 00:11:33,320 on his rehab plan. It seems like with meniscus injuries, many players have 159 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:37,919 had them and ever turned to form. Ruscott looked exactly the same. Russell 160 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:41,200 Westbrook's a good example, and then there's somebody like Chris Weber who did his 161 00:11:41,399 --> 00:11:46,279 and was never the same. It depends on the severity of it a lot 162 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:50,240 of different factors. Hopefully it's not as bad with Kauai, and the fact 163 00:11:50,279 --> 00:11:54,440 that he was able to look that good in Game two, you know, 164 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:58,559 speaks to the fact that, okay, he can. He's certainly someone who's 165 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:03,919 not who's on the lesser side of the extreme when it comes to these meniscus 166 00:12:03,919 --> 00:12:07,919 injuries. I hope, but we'll see. I you know, I don't 167 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:11,799 think it's gonna help with him and playing back to backs next year or anything 168 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:16,080 like that. There's saying another knee injury in his surgically repaired rite ACL knee 169 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:20,559 with the quad injury as well on that side of the body, So oh 170 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:26,320 sorry, the patela is your kneecap. I apologize. It's like a cushioning 171 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:28,480 thing. Meniscus. Yeah, there's two of them. Um, they're wedge 172 00:12:28,480 --> 00:12:33,080 shaped pieces of fibro cartilage that act as shock absorbers between your femur and tibia. 173 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:35,200 That's off the top of my head. I did not just read that 174 00:12:35,279 --> 00:12:39,559 off. I actually I cracked my patela in high school when I was playing 175 00:12:39,639 --> 00:12:43,039 hockey. That sucked. Well, where are you out on the injury thing? 176 00:12:43,159 --> 00:12:48,759 I was kind of like, um, I think mifft is the fair 177 00:12:48,799 --> 00:12:52,399 word to get this news. The day after the Clippers are eliminated, I 178 00:12:52,440 --> 00:12:54,720 was just like, I don't want to hear this today, like maybe wait 179 00:12:56,200 --> 00:12:58,919 a couple of days. But I saw something on Twitter was interesting. La 180 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:03,480 Clippers Film Room was talking about how when you're in a playoff run like this 181 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:09,480 and you kind of want to keep guys engaged and like fully kind of ready 182 00:13:09,519 --> 00:13:13,519 to go, you say the day to day thing, you know what I 183 00:13:13,519 --> 00:13:16,840 mean? Like, you don't say he tours me niscus after game one or 184 00:13:16,879 --> 00:13:20,200 after game two when you're in the series to kind of keep guys like fully 185 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:22,600 there, where are you at on that? Did you feel bad about the 186 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:26,679 timing or we upset at the timing? Like we know that this Clippers team, 187 00:13:26,919 --> 00:13:30,320 if you've been a fan long enough, you know not to expect anything 188 00:13:30,759 --> 00:13:33,159 when it comes to injuries. So that's already kind of low. But I 189 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:35,559 don't know, how how did you feel? Because I was a little miss. 190 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:39,000 I mean, like I wouldn't say that I was all together shocked, 191 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:43,679 you know. I mean obviously it was, you know, called a sprain, 192 00:13:43,919 --> 00:13:48,399 and you know, a sprain technically is a small tear. So it's 193 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:52,080 kind of like, you know, there, where's the lie a little bit? 194 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:54,679 I also think, like you know, we see play teams do this 195 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:58,440 all the time in the playoffs. This isn't just the Clippers. You know, 196 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:03,480 who knows what's going on with Joel Embid right now? Unless there was 197 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:07,240 some news that just dropped that I miss. But I mean it's a little 198 00:14:07,279 --> 00:14:11,399 bit of gamesmanship. It's a little bit just what you do. Um. 199 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:16,279 I think I think it's interesting if if they had known this before going into 200 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:20,399 Game two like that, to me, I guess raises some questions. But 201 00:14:20,639 --> 00:14:24,159 maybe that is also just a positive that it is minor enough that like it 202 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:28,919 was just re irritated which caused some additional swelling. Um maybe inhibited the range 203 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:33,639 of motion a little bit. Um so, yeah, I like altogether, 204 00:14:33,759 --> 00:14:35,200 I'm not surprised. It was a little bit weird that we heard this from 205 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:39,559 Shams, Like, once again, that is weird. Actually that's a really 206 00:14:39,639 --> 00:14:43,840 good That's not usually where we get Clippers news. For the most part. 207 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:46,759 I wonder if someone will leaked or anything, because now that you mentioned that, 208 00:14:46,799 --> 00:14:52,440 like it's usually Haynes, it's it's usually it's usually Haynes or Woes. 209 00:14:52,919 --> 00:14:56,840 Um wo is a Lawrence Frank guy. For those who are not aware of 210 00:14:56,960 --> 00:15:00,799 kind of how those relationships work. That seems to be the guy that Lawrence 211 00:15:00,840 --> 00:15:05,399 likes more than Shops. And you know, of course not a surprise either 212 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:09,279 that it came that it was, you know, first week by national media. 213 00:15:09,679 --> 00:15:13,440 I don't think it's that out of the ordinary to not give the full 214 00:15:13,480 --> 00:15:18,840 injury report until the series is over, to get to give hope to the 215 00:15:18,879 --> 00:15:28,159 team. Remember with Chris Webber, but sorry no, yeah, I think 216 00:15:28,159 --> 00:15:31,320 that's part of it. But in two thousand and three when Chris Webber tore 217 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:35,480 his meniscus, I remember the reporting was, oh, if they get past 218 00:15:35,519 --> 00:15:37,840 the Mavericks in the second round and take on San Antonio, he could be 219 00:15:37,919 --> 00:15:41,720 ready by game five. They're basically saying a three week timetable or something like 220 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:46,879 that. So it happens, and it's been happening for a long time. 221 00:15:46,919 --> 00:15:50,759 I mentioned that's from two thousand and three. So even though this is kawhide, 222 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:54,240 I know a lot of people have expressed their frustrations with the medical staff 223 00:15:54,279 --> 00:15:58,919 and the reporting on injuries and not being upfront about them. A lot of 224 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:03,559 teams do this. It's been going on forever, and the kau I think 225 00:16:03,559 --> 00:16:10,879 too, like it was so gross how some people when he was initially ruled 226 00:16:10,879 --> 00:16:15,720 out we're treating it as load management, which like it's load management and injuries 227 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:22,080 have been conflated into one thing, which is really shitty and is not accurate 228 00:16:22,159 --> 00:16:26,320 at all. The man was not load managing. He tore his menisct like 229 00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:34,919 this and then still crushed it in the playoff like it's just Kaui. I 230 00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:40,559 don't know how. I don't think we'll ever convince people who at this point 231 00:16:40,639 --> 00:16:45,919 think that Kawuhi like picks and chooses when he plays. If you watched even 232 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:48,279 just the last third of the Clippers season, the man was on a mission. 233 00:16:48,919 --> 00:16:53,159 This was not a man who wanted to sit out and not be out 234 00:16:53,200 --> 00:16:59,440 there like, I don't know the validation. I hope those people who think 235 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:03,200 that Kawhi like picks and chooses these things, or even the people who think 236 00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:07,279 that Kauai voluntarily sat out the second half of that Grizzlies game, it's like, 237 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:11,160 no, man, like there's other factors. He's actually hurt like this, 238 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:17,559 this is a real injury now, yeah, and it was with the 239 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:22,079 ACL two and him taking a year off like many people have. Coming back 240 00:17:22,079 --> 00:17:26,680 from an ACL injury is not unusual. But they're gonna pile on Kauai. 241 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:30,240 I don't like it, especially when it's just so lazy. When you think 242 00:17:30,279 --> 00:17:33,799 back to what he did during the twenty nineteen run with the Toronto Raptors, 243 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:37,799 he was playing hurt. He noticeably was hobbled by the time the Eastern Conference 244 00:17:37,839 --> 00:17:41,640 Finals came around. You could see it out there. He didn't look right, 245 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:45,920 and he played through it. If he could have played it through it, 246 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:49,880 I believe he would have. I don't think that was the issue. 247 00:17:51,319 --> 00:17:53,720 So, if anything, he should be commended for trying to go in game 248 00:17:53,759 --> 00:17:56,920 two. Now, if you want to make the argument, they shouldn't have 249 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:59,799 let him go if they had the information or how hurt he was, but 250 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:03,480 you don't know that after where it gets murky, because I think that part's 251 00:18:03,519 --> 00:18:06,279 kind of fair because you're kind of like, I mean, naturally, you're 252 00:18:06,279 --> 00:18:08,200 like, well, what the fuck you played game one? In game two 253 00:18:08,279 --> 00:18:11,319 and so they're taking them out for game three. It must have been a 254 00:18:11,359 --> 00:18:15,799 pain thing or something like. That's where there's questions, but like you said, 255 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:19,319 we have no idea, so we can really only ask questions. We 256 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:23,920 can't, you know, I don't What sucks with this injury stuff is people 257 00:18:23,920 --> 00:18:29,359 will have a conclusion and then they like kind of like inch their way with 258 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:33,599 questions towards their conclusion. They line up the evidence to match right, and 259 00:18:33,599 --> 00:18:37,079 it's like, let's just ask questions, like that's where I'm at. But 260 00:18:38,480 --> 00:18:41,759 now it it was goofy and then we also I thought it was kind of 261 00:18:41,799 --> 00:18:45,559 weird too, the timeline with the Paul George thing, where Paul George was 262 00:18:45,599 --> 00:18:48,039 like, hey, it's a six week injury, so I'm gonna lace them 263 00:18:48,079 --> 00:18:51,960 up in six weeks, and everyone was like, well, yeah, we 264 00:18:52,039 --> 00:18:53,599 hope you can do that because that means we'll have made to the second round. 265 00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:57,200 But also maybe would have been kind of know this was a six week 266 00:18:57,279 --> 00:19:02,680 injury right when it happened, but I don't know what I mean, that 267 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:06,039 doesn't change anything. I think a lot of this is Clippers fan peace of 268 00:19:06,079 --> 00:19:11,160 mind, which I identify with, Like it's nice to think you're in somewhat 269 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:12,599 of in the know when it comes to these injuries. But well, you 270 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:15,440 and I talked about a little bit on the post game yesterday, like the 271 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:19,359 PG thing. It's just like he just he wasn't gonna come back, like 272 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:22,759 the timeline didn't match up. And I don't think the team wanted to say 273 00:19:22,799 --> 00:19:29,119 he was out for the playoffs like they basically did without saying that that explicitly. 274 00:19:30,519 --> 00:19:34,240 Yeah, yeah, I mean he wasn't going to come back. No, 275 00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:38,519 it's and it's not. Yeah, it's just tough. Um. I 276 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:45,319 was hopeful, I really was. Um, obviously I was wrong. You 277 00:19:45,319 --> 00:19:51,559 weren't wrong to be hopeful, though, right, Like that's that's I sold 278 00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:56,599 myself false hope and I bought false You're you're you're somehow self dealing false hope. 279 00:19:56,640 --> 00:20:00,519 Like the hope I rs is like, now wait a minute, you 280 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:07,160 created all this hope and then paid yourself from your own hope from and still 281 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:11,279 defaulted on the loan. Uh, that's that's basically what happened. But that 282 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:17,680 is like shouldn't love? But what else are we supposed to do? Right? 283 00:20:17,839 --> 00:20:21,519 Like we remember I work out before the Warriors game like this, the 284 00:20:21,559 --> 00:20:26,240 Clippers franchise does want to keep Hope alive. That's not a Clipper, So 285 00:20:26,599 --> 00:20:27,960 that's not singular to the Clippers, right, it's like the six Ters, 286 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:32,400 like you were saying, they want people to be engaged. There's a couple 287 00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:34,799 of things, right. I mean, while I think, especially with the 288 00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:38,480 NBA being involved in betting, this stuff gets very murky at me, like 289 00:20:38,519 --> 00:20:44,599 that that great yeah is I mean a shade I don't care to decipher. 290 00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:51,240 But as far as like the fans are concerned and keeping energy in the series 291 00:20:51,319 --> 00:20:53,319 and like Hope and stuff, I mean, like, man, what do 292 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:57,680 you expect people to do? Like like no, seriously, Like if after 293 00:20:57,680 --> 00:21:02,519 if you were putting on it then at your job, yeah and the main 294 00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:06,480 guy was gone, yeah, you would probably be like he might be back. 295 00:21:06,559 --> 00:21:11,920 I don't know, You're not gonna be like he's done office. I 296 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:17,480 have one in office attendance a week and it's for a meeting. And if 297 00:21:17,559 --> 00:21:21,359 I was if it was determined that the boss was not going to be there, 298 00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:27,519 I would not show up for said meeting exactly. I just prefer would 299 00:21:27,599 --> 00:21:33,240 I prefer to lean into the optimism and hope for the best. I just 300 00:21:33,319 --> 00:21:37,880 do because it's out of my control either way. So I'd rather just say, 301 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:41,880 you know, I hope he's able to come back. I hope there's 302 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:45,200 a chance because if not, like I said, they weren't going to be 303 00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:48,119 able to win the series. If if he or Kawhi wasn't coming back, 304 00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:51,000 and I didn't want to go there yet, and if and if Kawhi comes 305 00:21:51,039 --> 00:21:55,680 back and he played you, it's and I also understand that this has been 306 00:21:56,079 --> 00:21:57,319 you know, when we traded for Kawai and Paul George, a lot of 307 00:21:57,359 --> 00:22:02,000 the people who were against the trade mentioned the injuries and things like that. 308 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:07,240 Um also, so I know what I'm saying is like part of it is, 309 00:22:07,279 --> 00:22:11,480 like, you know, Kauai is a load management guy. I'm not 310 00:22:11,559 --> 00:22:14,200 saying that as a bad thing. It just literally he does that because he 311 00:22:14,279 --> 00:22:18,519 medically has to. So part of this some of it's to be expected. 312 00:22:18,279 --> 00:22:22,400 What I think really gets fans upset is that we're just now in another year 313 00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:26,079 of being like, shit, I wish these guys were available, which is 314 00:22:26,079 --> 00:22:30,720 a very valid thing to think. I wanting your guys to all be healthy 315 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:34,759 in the playoffs is a totally valid thing to think. But thinking that there's 316 00:22:34,839 --> 00:22:41,200 some ulterior motive underneath them not being healthy is where you get into this like 317 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:47,079 we gotta take a step back and cool off mode. I think, yeah, 318 00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:52,160 we're all devastated Clipper Nation. This is awful to see this happen. 319 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:55,400 Yeah, no one is happy, like no. I think that's a good 320 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:56,880 thing to point out, is that it feels like the people who were really 321 00:22:57,000 --> 00:23:03,680 upset think that some part of the fan base is like, all right, 322 00:23:03,759 --> 00:23:10,759 this is great, Like we're all upset. Yeah, it's deflating, defeating. 323 00:23:10,839 --> 00:23:15,480 It's just it's been brutal to see this happen year after year with these 324 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:18,960 two guys, and as you mentioned, how well Kawhi was playing the last 325 00:23:18,039 --> 00:23:22,119 three months, and for it to end like this in a first round series 326 00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:26,000 where you know, he looks like he's close to being back to maybe in 327 00:23:26,039 --> 00:23:33,079 the conversation for best player in the league, and that's when he gets hurts. 328 00:23:33,319 --> 00:23:41,160 I hope to be a part of it one day, Uh do we 329 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:45,920 have anything else you want to say on this because like, no, im 330 00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:51,599 just like the conversation that that could also be the fucking subtitle for this Clippers 331 00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:56,279 era is like a part of the conversation or yeah, my so my subtitle 332 00:23:56,359 --> 00:24:00,160 that's actually a great prompt. I think my subtitle for this point up to 333 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:06,680 the two one three era is on paper, champions And I don't mean that 334 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:08,839 in a mean way, but on paper, if you look at the roster, 335 00:24:10,079 --> 00:24:14,400 it's a championship roster. Right. Everyone says that every single year that 336 00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:18,160 this team has existed in this iteration, is they make it out of the 337 00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:22,119 West, they're gonna be the champions. Adam, what would be your I 338 00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:26,200 was gonna say, if healthy? Sure, if healthy? Yeah, Adam, 339 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:30,079 what would be yours? I remember the Sports Illustrated Scary Hours for this 340 00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:37,759 season with Kawhi and Paul George on the cover and thinking this is the get 341 00:24:37,799 --> 00:24:41,440 back year we miss kawhile of last season. It's going to be different. 342 00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:47,440 He's gonna pick up where he left off in twenty twenty one, and him 343 00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:51,200 coming out initially and saying, you know, it's gonna be going through a 344 00:24:51,319 --> 00:24:53,480 dark tunnel, but there's light at the end of it. And it's a 345 00:24:53,559 --> 00:25:00,319 process, and it was all building that way with how he started to look 346 00:25:00,279 --> 00:25:04,039 uh in terms of the last three months of the regular season versus when he 347 00:25:04,079 --> 00:25:08,240 first came back and was hardly taking shots and wasn't scoring a lot, and 348 00:25:08,279 --> 00:25:15,160 then he ramped up perfectly up at just the right time, was the best 349 00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:19,440 player in this series against the Phoenix Suns before he went down. It's just 350 00:25:19,799 --> 00:25:26,519 it's unfathomable that another season is ending like this. And on the other hand, 351 00:25:26,279 --> 00:25:30,000 some people would say it's predictable. Some people would say it's predictable that 352 00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:33,200 the Clippers, you know, if they didn't have bad luck, they'd have 353 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:36,680 no luck at all. But that's all it is. It's just been bad 354 00:25:36,759 --> 00:25:40,839 luck. Yeah, it's been a lot of bad luck. Will what would 355 00:25:40,839 --> 00:25:48,279 your tagline be before we get into these uh tylu and Westbrook grades? Um 356 00:25:52,759 --> 00:26:00,880 good, No one's alive. The Clippers are still alive, live, all 357 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:07,440 right, motives here, All right, we're coming up. We're gonna talk 358 00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:14,160 flies with the Angels, the story of the Oh my god, that's hilarious. 359 00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:17,440 All right, coming up, we're talking the Tyl Lou playoff grade. 360 00:26:17,519 --> 00:26:21,160 He was dealt a very weird hand in these playoffs. We're gonna grade that 361 00:26:21,279 --> 00:26:23,640 very weird hand. But first, there are some ads, and some people, 362 00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:26,839 believe it or not, think they're too loud. So that's been your 363 00:26:26,839 --> 00:26:32,119 experience. Go ahead and turn it down. We're talking Tylo playoff grades after 364 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:37,200 these very loud ads coming up in three two one. All right, we 365 00:26:37,279 --> 00:26:45,599 are back and we're talking Tylu playoff grades. Tylu Uh. I think there's 366 00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:48,519 a not small portion of the fan base who wants to see Tylu not be 367 00:26:48,599 --> 00:26:53,599 the coach next year, of the whole year, grade just playoffs. But 368 00:26:55,279 --> 00:27:00,119 there were some things in the playoffs that may be extrapolated on that. Adam, 369 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:04,559 what did you like from Tylu in these playoff games? I liked that 370 00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:11,880 he still went to Bones Highland even when he was struggling offensively, because I'm 371 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:15,279 telling you, guys, his defense. I want somebody to put together a 372 00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:21,200 highlight reel a Bones Highland on defense in this series. Saying he competed is 373 00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:25,839 doing him a disservice, Like he was actually really good and he was a 374 00:27:25,839 --> 00:27:30,680 plus even when he wasn't hitting shots out there, and he's a young player, 375 00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:34,720 and for whatever reason, coach Lew seemed to really like what he brought. 376 00:27:34,799 --> 00:27:41,680 Maybe it's because his he has an affinity for guards. He is self 377 00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:48,039 proclaimed that he has bias for guards. He was one. But Bones Highland 378 00:27:48,039 --> 00:27:52,160 got run. There's growth there and even in Game five, I thought his 379 00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:56,720 first half was pretty good. A young player too. I think people forget 380 00:27:56,880 --> 00:28:03,880 Bones is a year older than Brandon Boston Jr. Maybe last. And I 381 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:07,519 like the fact that he ran with guys or would let them run if they 382 00:28:07,559 --> 00:28:11,359 got hot, like Mason Plumley in Game five, who was phenomenal that steel 383 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:18,559 and slam he had to kid. The Clippers momentum down twenty was just it 384 00:28:18,599 --> 00:28:22,960 was unbelievable to see a team continue to fight when they really I think most 385 00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:27,000 squads would have packed it in in that situation. And that also speaks to 386 00:28:27,039 --> 00:28:33,680 them continuing to, you know, listen to coach lou And and play hard 387 00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:37,920 for him even if the odds are stacked against them. Yeah, I thought 388 00:28:38,039 --> 00:28:44,319 tylu playing with the hot hand went well for the most part in this series. 389 00:28:44,359 --> 00:28:48,160 It's exactly like and when you're down as many important guys as the Clippers 390 00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:51,319 are, that's what you have to do. Like Will and I were talking 391 00:28:51,359 --> 00:28:56,160 about this when we were watching the game last night. It's almost like Tylu 392 00:28:56,319 --> 00:29:00,279 was just like a cut man for a boxer who's like already gotten beat the 393 00:29:00,279 --> 00:29:03,000 hell up because Kawhi and pg're out. So Tyler was like, what 394 00:29:03,079 --> 00:29:07,759 can we do in these small moments to try and make things happen? Ride 395 00:29:07,799 --> 00:29:11,599 the hot hand was one of them. And the Mason Plumley example you gave 396 00:29:11,759 --> 00:29:15,680 was great. Putting Norman to the starting lineup like that, that had to 397 00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:18,599 happen because you're just trying to blitz the kind of offensively and stuff like that. 398 00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:22,160 And he went through a shooting slump in that game. Five after hitting 399 00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:26,440 his first four, he was like one for his next seven, and he 400 00:29:26,559 --> 00:29:30,759 still ended up playing thirty nine minutes because coach Lou knew you have to ride 401 00:29:30,839 --> 00:29:34,440 or die with with Lou Williams with Norman Pale, either he gets hot out 402 00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:37,359 there and you have a chance, or if you don't play him, it's 403 00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:41,960 already a loss. And I like that he gave it a shot and he 404 00:29:41,119 --> 00:29:45,359 rewarded him late in the fourth when they made that run. Yes, will 405 00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:49,799 what did you like about Tyler's playoffs? Well, I mean Adam already brought 406 00:29:49,839 --> 00:29:52,680 up the Bones thing, which I feel like is huge and I feel like, 407 00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:56,079 even if you're down on where the Clippers are at, is one of 408 00:29:56,079 --> 00:30:02,359 the brightest kind of future things to forward to or sure be excited about as 409 00:30:02,359 --> 00:30:06,920 a Clippers fan. Um. One thing that's funny about the Bones thing is 410 00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:08,799 that, like, so apparently the Clippers love Bones Highland in that draft, 411 00:30:08,839 --> 00:30:12,839 and they didn't draft him because they're kind of bad at drafting, and we 412 00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:15,920 had to give up two second round picks to get them. And everyone's like, 413 00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:18,319 we had to give up two second round picks to get a guy that 414 00:30:18,359 --> 00:30:22,519 we liked, And I'm like, when have you ever cared about second round 415 00:30:22,519 --> 00:30:27,519 picks? I guess my counterpoint. I guess my counterpoint to that would be 416 00:30:27,559 --> 00:30:33,279 okay, but someone who's maybe better at development developed him and then we got 417 00:30:33,279 --> 00:30:36,839 to reap the benefits exactly. Yeah. So it's like, yeah, it's 418 00:30:36,839 --> 00:30:40,599 like, oh, what would you have used those two future second round picks 419 00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:48,759 on instead of Bones Highlands? Shit? All right, that's a good point. 420 00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:55,000 They're playing forty minutes. Yeah, yeah, Terrens will play sixteen and 421 00:30:55,079 --> 00:30:57,039 Bones will play the Runts. Sorry go ahead, will Um. Yeah. 422 00:30:57,160 --> 00:31:04,599 I I did really like I really like that there was some experimentation, even 423 00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:08,759 if it was stuff that was kind of a continuation from the regular season. 424 00:31:08,839 --> 00:31:12,279 I mean I thought that the five guard lineup, even though it wasn't ultimately 425 00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:17,759 successful, it didn't deliver a win, was I mean a stroke of bravery. 426 00:31:17,799 --> 00:31:18,960 And I mean part of it is your back is against the wall, 427 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:22,200 and like we said, like that cut, man, like you just have 428 00:31:22,359 --> 00:31:25,759 to keep the team standing, you know, you just have to like prevent 429 00:31:25,839 --> 00:31:30,039 this cut from bleeding so bad that it's like that the fight is entirely stopped. 430 00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:33,240 But I did like that stuff. But that kind of is a double 431 00:31:33,359 --> 00:31:37,200 edged sword for me for Tylo in this right is that, Um, I 432 00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:44,559 feel like he kind of the season, the season overarching story for me, 433 00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:49,599 for Tylus sticks to his guns, um, And he stuck to his guns 434 00:31:49,599 --> 00:31:52,119 in this one. And I feel like at times, you know, we 435 00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:56,240 saw we saw some good stuff there. Um, I'm not gonna I'll talk 436 00:31:56,279 --> 00:31:57,680 about the bad stuff later. Sorry, I'm not gonna. I'm not gonna 437 00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:01,720 about two and a half minute. I'm not gonna jump segments here. Um, 438 00:32:02,079 --> 00:32:07,759 But you know I did really tease it out, Yeah, how to 439 00:32:07,759 --> 00:32:14,759 tease it out? Um? I did like that and I do you know, 440 00:32:15,039 --> 00:32:17,079 like I said, it is double sword. But I mean, I 441 00:32:17,119 --> 00:32:22,799 do like his belief in players. I think, especially for someone like Westbrook 442 00:32:22,799 --> 00:32:27,920 new to the team, tumultuous, you know, tumultuous last two seasons. 443 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:30,920 Really Yeah, Um, I think that that is. I think that that 444 00:32:31,039 --> 00:32:36,480 is powerful and important to empower a player like that, Um, even if 445 00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:40,359 you know, granted your options are a little slim. But I think the 446 00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:45,519 best thing about Tylu is that for you know, all the like tinker and 447 00:32:45,599 --> 00:32:51,000 tie stuff, he also doesn't overreact, which I think is really important and 448 00:32:51,039 --> 00:32:55,319 become I would it becomes especially important. Um, you know, when you're 449 00:32:55,400 --> 00:33:00,599 undermanned. Yeah. I like what you said, ps Man didn't play enough 450 00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:05,839 minutes under man get it. I like what you said about the player empowerment 451 00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:07,880 stuff because like, and again, for those of you listening, we're talking 452 00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:13,359 the playoffs. We're gonna talk about regular season Tylu probably next week or something 453 00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:15,680 like that, because that's a whole different bag. And he was in a 454 00:33:15,839 --> 00:33:20,920 kind of seemingly constant battle with the front office. But I think we can 455 00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:24,119 talk about kind of what we didn't like, and Will mentioned one of the 456 00:33:24,119 --> 00:33:30,400 things he liked was, you know, maybe not overreacting, but the Marcus 457 00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:37,319 Morris thing is kind of is it's a real like I love this Clippers team, 458 00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:42,319 but playing Marcus Morris the minutes he played him in those games, it's 459 00:33:42,359 --> 00:33:45,880 just like, I don't want to say the stats. We all know that 460 00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:54,400 they weren't exactly good or you know, sustainable, but he had the worst 461 00:33:54,440 --> 00:34:00,359 plus minus he played. He goes two of five in Game three, he 462 00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:05,119 goes three or thirteen in Game four, five of eleven in Game three. 463 00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:08,280 And also we brought this up on the stream last night. Tyler referenced how 464 00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:14,440 he's like top five and three point percentages for guys who've taken xbouns. He 465 00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:19,159 took one three in Game five. I thought he had a pretty good first 466 00:34:19,159 --> 00:34:22,920 half. Actually he did. He had ten and four, led by nine. 467 00:34:22,119 --> 00:34:27,159 Yeah, so he had ten and four in that first half, which 468 00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:30,800 was great, and then he was also rallying guys. He had multiple huddle 469 00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:34,559 up moments where Norman Powell was upset with himself and he brought him in. 470 00:34:34,639 --> 00:34:37,480 I'd like to see in that leadership part. He had ten and four at 471 00:34:37,519 --> 00:34:40,480 half and he finished with twelve and five, which I think is a very 472 00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:45,880 and you know, that's not that, but like I do, you gotta 473 00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:52,079 feel for Tylu after losing obviously Paul George, losing Kawhi Leonard and the communications 474 00:34:52,079 --> 00:34:58,760 seemed kind of weird on that, but playing Marcus Morris difficult, it felt 475 00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:01,159 like sometimes I think a lot fans were worried that he was sticking with Eric 476 00:35:01,159 --> 00:35:05,920 Gordon for too long, but as we all liked a reference, Eric Gordon 477 00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:10,280 hit those deep fu threes more times this season than the Clippers ever did as 478 00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:15,840 a team, So like, you gotta ride, Like I'm not really sure 479 00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:19,199 what people wanted to do in these playoffs, and again we're just talking playoffs 480 00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:22,840 with Tylu down Kawai and PG. He empowered Russ as much as he could, 481 00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:27,760 which paid off for the most part in these playoffs. But other than 482 00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:31,159 that, it's like play Roco more. We would have loved it, But 483 00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:37,320 fuck, it's not like Rocco was like ten of ten when he was playing, 484 00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:45,000 you know what I mean? Like he sticks, He's better than Marcus 485 00:35:45,039 --> 00:35:49,280 Morris on defense, but that's not what Tyler looked for, which I think 486 00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:52,719 kind of makes sense. We talked about this. I think after we saw 487 00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:55,320 the five guard lineup, we were all like, Hey, if you're not 488 00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:59,119 going to stop him, you might as well try and overwhelm them with points, 489 00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:01,360 which is what Tyler was trying to do. Okay, he's better than 490 00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:07,599 Marcus Morrison offense too. He's better than Marcus Morris in every facet of the 491 00:36:07,639 --> 00:36:12,719 game. When we're talking about the version of Marcus Morris over the last four 492 00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:15,639 months. Now, it's just a fact. Whether you want to look at 493 00:36:15,639 --> 00:36:21,280 tape, whether you want to look at the numbers, it is. So 494 00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:27,079 that's the one thing that is frustrating. And I completely understand why Clipper Nation 495 00:36:27,079 --> 00:36:30,000 would rather see Albert Coverington the whole. I don't know why blow it up 496 00:36:30,039 --> 00:36:34,639 Dike is not down with Rocco and saying he stinks all the time. He's 497 00:36:34,679 --> 00:36:40,159 been their best three point shooters since March. How many at tabs, it's 498 00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:46,079 it's twelve games, So I think it's we're not We're not talking about him 499 00:36:46,159 --> 00:36:52,400 playing over another guy who's been all right. We're talking about him playing versus 500 00:36:52,440 --> 00:37:00,239 a guy who hasn't looked terrible. We're just talking about playing the best best 501 00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:02,840 options right are going with the best guys who are playing the best right now. 502 00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:07,679 He doesn't have from to save here for the million dollars a stink. 503 00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:15,800 I don't know what you're watching if you think Rocco stinks like I think clearly 504 00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:29,480 so. Shooting sixty percent from three March, it's probably fifty, it might 505 00:37:29,519 --> 00:37:31,519 be close to fifty. How many would suffice? Well? Like what what 506 00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:37,119 is enough to say that he's better than Marcus Morris because that's the only decision 507 00:37:37,119 --> 00:37:40,960 that needs to be made, whether or not he's a better option than Marcus. 508 00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:45,920 Look, I agree with you, like overall he's a better option. 509 00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:50,079 I just think like this the fan, the Clippers fan fick that has been 510 00:37:50,159 --> 00:37:53,039 this season that like Robert Commington somehow would miraculously say this thing. I think 511 00:37:53,079 --> 00:37:57,760 he's a little far fash. I've literally said that's not me though, Like 512 00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:00,599 he's not a savior. He just is a better or options better than Marcus 513 00:38:00,639 --> 00:38:06,320 more He's just the best three point shooter on the team. He's been on 514 00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:09,480 a heater since March and should probably play over a guy who's shooting thirty percent 515 00:38:09,559 --> 00:38:16,280 from three and was reluctant to take them for a while. I don't see 516 00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:23,400 I find a baffling that for the entire season. The dnps from Robert Covington 517 00:38:23,519 --> 00:38:28,719 getting thirty of them, while there's a guy at that position that is struggling 518 00:38:29,159 --> 00:38:34,199 mightily, and coach Lew referenced his history, but that's not who he has 519 00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:37,800 been over a long stretch of time throughout this season, and we have said 520 00:38:38,039 --> 00:38:43,159 he doesn't look right. He whether it's an injury or age, he just 521 00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:46,480 has not looked right. I just a guy who's shooting twice as good from 522 00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:52,079 the outside. I think he's hitting more three pointers in his last fifteen games 523 00:38:52,119 --> 00:38:57,800 than Marcus has hitting his last three months. Like no Joe. So what 524 00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:00,719 are we talking about? Let's all right, well, what did you not 525 00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:04,639 like about ty Lu? Because let's bring it back to the Tylu conversation on 526 00:39:04,679 --> 00:39:08,039 the Bar's first ruggle, which I'm definitely on Adam's side, But what did 527 00:39:08,079 --> 00:39:13,360 you not like about ty He was in a rock in a hard place from 528 00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:19,960 games three to five. Game one, Russ wasn't good, but we still 529 00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:22,400 won. Like I think, one of the best players in this series, 530 00:39:22,559 --> 00:39:27,320 especially after Kawi went out, didn't get enough minutes and for some perplexing reason 531 00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:30,599 why in the starting lineup, And I don't know that. Yeah, this 532 00:39:30,679 --> 00:39:34,480 is an ongoing thing. I mean, look, I know that Adams has 533 00:39:34,559 --> 00:39:38,280 denigrated the stretch that the Clippers went on pre All Star Break with Terrence Man 534 00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:44,400 in the starting lineup, But look manegraded, like, this guy has constantly 535 00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:47,320 come up big in moments. We know what he can do. He has 536 00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:52,920 continuity for the team that has so little of that that I, you know, 537 00:39:53,159 --> 00:39:54,800 I don't even know if you can count it. I don't know. 538 00:39:54,800 --> 00:40:00,679 You'd have to find him with a microscope. But I it's flexing to me. 539 00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:05,440 I really don't get it. And I understand that there. I know 540 00:40:05,519 --> 00:40:12,320 that there was some conversation um purportedly earlier with tylu about why Marcus wasn't moved 541 00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:15,440 to the bench earlier because of something to do with how the bench you know, 542 00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:19,159 would function with Marcus Morris and it being a little bit of a job 543 00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:22,119 up. It's an elimination game. I really don't care. Basketball is there's 544 00:40:22,199 --> 00:40:28,400 no basketball. Basketball isn't a game with five out shifts. It truly doesn't 545 00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:32,360 matter. Put your best five in and and and I mean like and hope 546 00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:37,159 for the best, like to be perfectly honest, and I think that that 547 00:40:37,159 --> 00:40:38,159 that to me is one of those things. And once again, this is 548 00:40:38,159 --> 00:40:44,679 a this is a playoff grade, not a regular season grade. But like 549 00:40:44,679 --> 00:40:47,159 like I said, in the positives for this, it's also in the negatives 550 00:40:47,159 --> 00:40:52,519 of like the trends that we saw through the regular season continue to carry over. 551 00:40:52,599 --> 00:40:57,400 And I think that Terrence Man not being appreciated for the player both that 552 00:40:57,480 --> 00:41:00,840 he is and like what he can be, especially with eyes out. To 553 00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:04,639 me, I think, I don't know, I don't know. That to 554 00:41:04,679 --> 00:41:07,719 me is like one of the larger indictments on tylub. So that's that's it. 555 00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:13,199 I agree. Yeah, Well, I have downplayed the tenant four before 556 00:41:13,199 --> 00:41:16,679 the All Star break. I also thought Terrence Man should get forty minutes once 557 00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:21,760 Kauhi and Eric Gordon went down this series, he's good for it too. 558 00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:24,320 Is the thing like what like what what's the reason? And and now we're 559 00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:28,239 hearing that, you know, Gordon might have had a hip injury too, 560 00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:32,320 Like what is the what is like the reason? What is the you know, 561 00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:37,320 the tangible reason that that he shouldn't play thirty eight to forty minutes in 562 00:41:37,599 --> 00:41:43,079 this series? Well, what's the reason that he had dnps to start off 563 00:41:43,079 --> 00:41:45,840 the year? And coach lew was asked about him when what his role is 564 00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:49,000 or what he thinks his role is and he said, I don't know. 565 00:41:49,679 --> 00:41:52,920 I find it completely baffling. I find it completely baffling. This is someone 566 00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:59,280 who closed playoff games out for you during the twenty twenty one playoffs. Why 567 00:41:59,639 --> 00:42:02,360 isn't there more trust with Terrence Man. It seems like he trusts Bones Highland 568 00:42:02,519 --> 00:42:06,280 more than Terrence Man, who just got here. Yeah, that's a really 569 00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:09,079 good call. And it's not like because Bones is a more traditional point guard. 570 00:42:09,119 --> 00:42:15,760 I feel like that's like that's been the weird like like underlying sort of 571 00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:21,239 theme of this season is like tylu and how he views the point guard position, 572 00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:24,639 and like, is this when we get back to it and basically every 573 00:42:24,679 --> 00:42:28,559 single season the thing that's been the thing with the Clippers, it's like, 574 00:42:28,559 --> 00:42:30,320 Oh, they need the guard, they need the point guard. The point 575 00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:36,639 guard we've now had is this, Like really, what it all boils down 576 00:42:36,639 --> 00:42:39,840 to is that even with Doc removes, Tyler is still so focused on what 577 00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:45,280 the prototypical point guard is that we can't move past that into how this team 578 00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:50,400 was constructed this year from a roster standpoint, Like that, to me is 579 00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:53,920 so perplexing for a guy who's so good at in game adjustments that like that 580 00:42:54,000 --> 00:43:00,239 you're not you're for some reason not malleable on this one position and everything has 581 00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:02,440 to flow through this certain archetype. Like I just I do not get it. 582 00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:09,159 I do not understand it well. And I thought the roster construction was 583 00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:13,719 done in this way with coach low in mind. He was the one who 584 00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:19,280 was going small with wings for them to get to the Western Conference finals away 585 00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:22,559 from guards. Yeah, we thought they were saving it in their back pocket. 586 00:43:22,599 --> 00:43:25,480 That's that one season when we saw it briefly two years ago in the 587 00:43:25,519 --> 00:43:30,920 regular season. But was the real reason that Tylu just never was on board 588 00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:35,639 with the concept, but he was when it mattered most in the playoffs in 589 00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:38,599 twenty one. Makes it so weird is that you're just like and I think 590 00:43:38,599 --> 00:43:44,880 that plays into the fact that there's not an identity for the Slippers team right 591 00:43:45,039 --> 00:43:47,639 like twenty twenty one, as Adam said, we were, we were going 592 00:43:47,679 --> 00:43:52,239 small, we were fucking shit up. You get to this season. Now 593 00:43:52,239 --> 00:44:00,320 we're going ultrasmall five guards obviously the nomally, but like days and part their 594 00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:02,519 identity. If you're not look, I will say, if you're not watching 595 00:44:02,599 --> 00:44:07,320 us on YouTube at Clippers podcast, there's some good bits. There's some good 596 00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:09,920 bits with Will doing the names. It's a fun time. I'm awesome. 597 00:44:10,119 --> 00:44:13,920 But I think that I think that plays into the identity. And in the 598 00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:17,119 playoffs, the identity the Clippers fell back on was we're not going to give 599 00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:21,800 up, which is awesome, but that's I think a lot of teams identities 600 00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:27,519 of two of their stars are out right like, yeah, but I don't. 601 00:44:27,559 --> 00:44:30,239 I said old season long. They're consistently inconsistent. That's their only identity. 602 00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:35,760 The only thing you could point to in an area where they were elite 603 00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:38,559 in would be three point shooting. Yeah. Outside of that, they had 604 00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:43,320 stretches where their offense was really good. But overall you look at the numbers, 605 00:44:43,519 --> 00:44:45,599 they weren't elite in that area. They weren't top five. Same on 606 00:44:45,639 --> 00:44:49,559 the defensive end of the ball. They had stretches, but they never really 607 00:44:49,599 --> 00:44:54,480 put it together. So I look, I'm impressed with how they pushed it 608 00:44:54,519 --> 00:44:58,920 to five and the way those games win, with how close they are. 609 00:44:59,159 --> 00:45:01,440 They were of close. Seen the gap, the talent gap that was out 610 00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:06,079 there between them in Phoenix, and I do still believe in coach lou for 611 00:45:06,119 --> 00:45:09,559 that reason. I just some of the moves this season have been really hard 612 00:45:09,599 --> 00:45:15,880 to understand and explain it. Rocco Taris man teris Man to me is one 613 00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:20,360 of the five most impactful players on the Clippers team, but he's not top 614 00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:23,599 five in minutes played per game. I think his minutes per game in the 615 00:45:23,599 --> 00:45:29,119 playoffs only went up three minutes compared to the regular season, which is mind 616 00:45:29,159 --> 00:45:32,039 blowing. What do you think about our absences? He shot almost sixty percent 617 00:45:32,079 --> 00:45:36,280 from the field in the series and almost fifty percent from three. He needed 618 00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:38,719 to take more shots, but he also could have gotten more run out there. 619 00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:46,159 Yeah, absolutely, all right, So final grades will up Dyke playoff 620 00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:58,199 grade for ty lou Ce firm C seventy three, okay, so still a 621 00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:05,280 see. I don't know why that's making me laugh. So Adam once your 622 00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:08,800 grade percentage or letter? Uh? For Terence Man if he was going to 623 00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:13,480 Ausland High School, well, I think fifty one would be an F and 624 00:46:13,519 --> 00:46:17,360 I'm not yeah man, yeah, well your high school, I don't know. 625 00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:22,000 I would go B or B minus. Uh. The guys competed. 626 00:46:22,079 --> 00:46:30,079 There was no question anymore about I think he I think he got it out 627 00:46:30,119 --> 00:46:32,679 of him. When you're down twenty when you're down Kawhi and Paul George, 628 00:46:34,159 --> 00:46:37,360 it would be easy to wave the white flag. And I think there was 629 00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:42,000 still belief there because Coach Lou was the coach and they they call him coach 630 00:46:42,079 --> 00:46:49,440 Belichicker or Bill toront Low like they think he's a schematics genius. I think 631 00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:52,320 he is as well. In a seven game series, they should have been 632 00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:54,760 blown out multiple games and they weren't, and I think a lot of that 633 00:46:54,840 --> 00:47:00,760 was Coach Lou. I think that's fair. I think I'm actually in your 634 00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:04,920 same range. I think I'm in like B minus range. Kawie and PG 635 00:47:05,039 --> 00:47:09,079 are out. The games were close. We didn't get run off the floor 636 00:47:09,079 --> 00:47:13,440 in any of them. We were I think that was a bones Highland three 637 00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:17,360 away from making it real interesting in game four. So I think I gotta 638 00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:22,199 go. I gotta go B minus. And if he wouldn't have played Marcus 639 00:47:22,199 --> 00:47:28,519 Morris, it would have been to be It's fair. But the outside factors 640 00:47:28,559 --> 00:47:34,360 also that they had no control over, were greatly against the Clippers, especially 641 00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:37,760 in that game three, especially in games three and four, and they competed 642 00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:45,039 and they were right there still. Yeah, man, just wish everyone would 643 00:47:45,039 --> 00:47:50,119 have been healthy coming up where are we talking Russell Westbrook's playoff grade, which 644 00:47:50,119 --> 00:47:52,840 I have a feeling. I think I know what we're gonna say. But 645 00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:54,480 first there's some ads. If those have been too loud for you, which 646 00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:57,800 they have been for some people, believe it or not, go ahead and 647 00:47:57,840 --> 00:48:00,239 turn it down. We're talking Russell Westbrook after these ads. The ads are 648 00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:07,360 in three two one Welcome back in Clips and Dip episode one forty five. 649 00:48:07,519 --> 00:48:09,519 If you need to get in touch with us, we're on Twitter, at 650 00:48:09,559 --> 00:48:14,599 Clippers Pod, at Clippers Podcast on YouTube if you want to watch us. 651 00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:17,679 We have a lot of fun doing these YouTube videos, YouTube lives, whatever, 652 00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:22,920 they may be. A good time live yesterday if you all gonna rewatch 653 00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:25,840 that with Willow, I that was a fun time, totally understandable, guys. 654 00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:30,159 You guys were grieving the loss and the loss of Noah Eagle is lit 655 00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:37,119 up tike yeah, foot foot it which was dark. Okay, So we 656 00:48:37,159 --> 00:48:40,559 talked about Coach lew and his playoff grade. As I guess we're gonna make 657 00:48:40,599 --> 00:48:45,079 this kind of a series going through with our shows now playoff grades, end 658 00:48:45,079 --> 00:48:50,519 of regular season type stuff and a playoff end of the entire twenty two twenty 659 00:48:50,519 --> 00:48:53,519 three season, but Russell Westbrook someone they brought in twenty one games left in 660 00:48:53,559 --> 00:48:58,440 the regular season, five playoff games, so he gets to twenty six total. 661 00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:02,280 I liked a lot out of Russ, especially in this series. This 662 00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:07,119 is one of the better series he has had since twenty sixteen. Do you 663 00:49:07,159 --> 00:49:09,519 want to hear the stats? I can. I got those stats pulled up, 664 00:49:09,519 --> 00:49:13,639 buddy. I can think it's ended up forty one percent from the field, 665 00:49:13,639 --> 00:49:15,519 thirty five percent from three. Oh no, I just bent. I 666 00:49:15,599 --> 00:49:17,920 was going, I was gonna go a little top top level of view. 667 00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:22,760 We're going twenty four seven to seven. Yeah, that's pretty I mean, 668 00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:28,440 this is what the like. Other than games one and five. He brought 669 00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:32,400 exactly what the Clippers wanted to bring or needed to bring. And you know, 670 00:49:32,599 --> 00:49:37,719 some of those duds offensively are going to happen. I was a little 671 00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:40,800 bit concerned about him coming out too hot in Game five and being out of 672 00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:45,719 control, and there were some rough turnovers. But he's another guy you have 673 00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:47,960 to live or die with. You know, either Russ has a good game, 674 00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:52,079 and that is the point that I think we can talk about, maybe 675 00:49:52,159 --> 00:49:54,639 we talk about the whole season. That's what you get with Russ. If 676 00:49:54,679 --> 00:49:59,719 he's on your team and he's the one guy you're living or dying with Russ, 677 00:50:00,559 --> 00:50:06,000 Yeah, and he's very good in these situations where he raises your floor. 678 00:50:06,119 --> 00:50:08,599 That's what everybody likes to say about Russell Westbrook. When he is the 679 00:50:08,679 --> 00:50:14,280 lone star out there and guys are just working around him and playing off of 680 00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:16,599 him, you know you can have some success. I don't think you can 681 00:50:16,639 --> 00:50:22,239 win a championship that way. I think that's been proven. But I still 682 00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:24,800 I think the effort that he played with and I gave coach Lew a lot 683 00:50:24,840 --> 00:50:29,480 of credit for the way they flipped a switch and looked differently through forty eight 684 00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:32,079 and it's consistently in the playoffs. I think Russ had something to do with 685 00:50:32,079 --> 00:50:37,840 that too. When he plays that energy he brought very useful for the Clippers, 686 00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:44,559 especially when you're down, especially when you're down your two stars. He 687 00:50:44,639 --> 00:50:46,920 did a lot of good. He did a lot of bad. That's expected 688 00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:52,559 though, that's the Russ roller coaster will What did you like from Westbrook in 689 00:50:52,599 --> 00:50:59,960 these these five games. I really liked his commitment on the defensive end, 690 00:51:00,639 --> 00:51:06,800 especially in that in that first game. Especially in that first game, Uh 691 00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:10,320 just the number of deflections and everything. Um, it was really impressive to 692 00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:14,440 see. I think that you know, we had talked about it a little 693 00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:17,280 bit leading into the series that I you know, I didn't necessarily from what 694 00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:22,599 I had seen, he wasn't necessarily the bad the bad defender that he had 695 00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:25,320 had gotten a rap for. Um. And I think that we saw you 696 00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:30,239 know, him use that that famous athleticism to his advantage on that side of 697 00:51:30,239 --> 00:51:34,599 the floor. UM. I also just think, like you know, everybody 698 00:51:34,639 --> 00:51:37,639 talked about the even the off court stuff with Russ, and I think in 699 00:51:37,679 --> 00:51:44,639 a series like this, I honestly to a certain extent even think with one 700 00:51:44,679 --> 00:51:49,760 of Kawhi or Paul George, right, um, who you know, despite 701 00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:52,159 which is an issue they're gonna have to figure out next season probably, yeah, 702 00:51:52,199 --> 00:51:57,599 you know, despite all their greatness, you know, I think if 703 00:51:57,920 --> 00:52:00,880 your back is against the wall and things are not looking the clips away for 704 00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:06,199 the roster that we had this season, Russ is absolutely like the floor general 705 00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:09,480 that I would want out there for morale and and just the kind of guy 706 00:52:09,719 --> 00:52:16,480 like I to just yeah exactly just the type of player who, um, 707 00:52:16,519 --> 00:52:22,760 you know, can settle things down from you know, from that perspective, 708 00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:27,199 like a veteran in that sense, um, which you know Clips have, 709 00:52:27,400 --> 00:52:30,960 they're a whole team. They Yeah, they theoretically should have a lot of 710 00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:35,480 those kind of guys. But I think that I don't. I I don't 711 00:52:35,519 --> 00:52:38,480 think these games are as close as they are at all. If if if 712 00:52:38,519 --> 00:52:43,519 Westbrook isn't there, and not just because of his production, but I think 713 00:52:43,519 --> 00:52:46,800 that he was. He was that piece that I think maybe they thought ra 714 00:52:46,880 --> 00:52:51,599 Gen Rondo would be or something like that. Yeah. Well, what's funny 715 00:52:51,679 --> 00:52:55,519 is I was talking with Joseph riya Ward about this former Clippers podcaster he's since 716 00:52:55,559 --> 00:52:59,760 retired. I think he's down in Bocca. You're doing his eulogy too. 717 00:53:00,599 --> 00:53:01,639 Oh he's oh no, no, no, we're not gonna do that. 718 00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:05,719 Um. But I was talking with Joseph and I was like, do you 719 00:53:05,760 --> 00:53:09,800 think the Clippers pre trade deadline would be better to you know, come out 720 00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:14,159 of this series with the Suns without Kawai and Paul George or are they better 721 00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:17,519 post this trade deadline right this new iteration from the Clippers, And we both 722 00:53:17,559 --> 00:53:22,920 kind of agreed, like because Russ being a big factor, they had the 723 00:53:22,639 --> 00:53:28,719 new twenty twenty two twenty twenty three Clippers had a better chance than Reggie Jackson, 724 00:53:28,840 --> 00:53:32,199 Luke Kennard, John Wall you know, pre trade deadline Clippers. And 725 00:53:32,239 --> 00:53:36,239 I think that's totally fair. I wasn't the biggest fan of the Russ trade. 726 00:53:36,760 --> 00:53:38,440 Um, we saw some good and some bad from Russ in these playoffs. 727 00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:42,480 Again, you know, he went three of nineteen in game one. 728 00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:45,800 Um, you know, went three for eighteen in Game five, which I'm 729 00:53:45,840 --> 00:53:49,400 gonna be honest, if he misses one more shot, maybe we win that 730 00:53:49,480 --> 00:53:51,679 game. Because if you look at the stats, when he goes three of 731 00:53:51,719 --> 00:53:57,440 nineteen in the playoffs, he is undefeated. Um two and right, baby, 732 00:53:57,880 --> 00:54:00,000 um one morning, you got a streak. Go on. But like 733 00:54:01,079 --> 00:54:05,000 obviously games one and five or now what you need, Games two, three, 734 00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:08,880 and four were peak Ross, Like they needed a guy to step in 735 00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:12,920 and do exactly what he did in the position that he did it in, 736 00:54:13,719 --> 00:54:17,400 right, like at the point guard position. I don't know what did we 737 00:54:17,519 --> 00:54:22,320 not like from Russ? I know, And like I think we can kind 738 00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:24,000 of get some of the usual ones out of the way, right, some 739 00:54:24,039 --> 00:54:28,639 shot selection, maybe not take as many threes when you're only two of nineteen 740 00:54:28,719 --> 00:54:31,679 or whatever it is. But like it's just kind of the usual stuff that 741 00:54:31,840 --> 00:54:36,079 makes sense. There wasn't anything nude and not like, which I kind of 742 00:54:36,119 --> 00:54:39,360 take as a win if that makes sense. There's not a lot to learn 743 00:54:39,679 --> 00:54:44,719 about Russell Westbrook at this point of his career, but I will give him 744 00:54:44,760 --> 00:54:51,199 this change of scenery did do him well and does Yeah, a change of 745 00:54:51,239 --> 00:54:55,199 scenery personnel him being happy where he's at. It brought out the best of 746 00:54:55,280 --> 00:55:00,800 Russell Westbrook where for him to turn back the clock and those middle three games 747 00:55:00,800 --> 00:55:05,039 of the series plays some of the best playoff basketball he has ever played, 748 00:55:05,679 --> 00:55:09,079 including literally the back when he was with Kevin Durant. Yeah, that's pretty 749 00:55:09,119 --> 00:55:14,360 impressive. A lot of his percentages with the Clippers overall, shooting thirty six 750 00:55:14,440 --> 00:55:16,400 percent in the regular season. Really, I guess he did that, you 751 00:55:16,440 --> 00:55:20,320 know, overall in the twenty six games, because he shot thirty five point 752 00:55:20,360 --> 00:55:23,320 seven percent in the playoffs. Two people didn't expect that to improve. They 753 00:55:23,320 --> 00:55:27,800 said, there's this whole body of work to look at. He's not all 754 00:55:27,840 --> 00:55:30,000 of a sudden going to become a league average three point shooter, and he 755 00:55:30,079 --> 00:55:36,639 basically did with the Clippers. Yeah, well, you're peaking on Russ. 756 00:55:36,679 --> 00:55:40,360 What was some of the bad stuff. Some of the bad stuff. Man. 757 00:55:40,599 --> 00:55:46,199 Uh, some of his finishing at the rim is so bad it is 758 00:55:46,400 --> 00:55:52,000 uh, I mean it. They should be counted as turnovers, some of 759 00:55:52,039 --> 00:55:54,719 them. I mean, like, how many transition plays we see off of 760 00:55:54,760 --> 00:56:00,400 the smoked for us layup? Uh? That do you guys wonder if that's 761 00:56:00,880 --> 00:56:06,239 the drop off in athleticism. He could always just dunk it before and he 762 00:56:06,280 --> 00:56:07,920 can still get up. He can still get up, and maybe not as 763 00:56:07,960 --> 00:56:13,239 consistently, and so all of a sudden he has to learn how to gracefully 764 00:56:13,360 --> 00:56:16,119 lay things up. And that's just not something he had to worry about throughout 765 00:56:16,119 --> 00:56:20,119 the first twelve years of his career. She spent all offseason with a glass 766 00:56:20,159 --> 00:56:23,559 ball. Glass ball, well, well, you can't turn Eric Gordon's head 767 00:56:23,559 --> 00:56:28,920 and all just perfect touch. He's doing that hippie orb glass ball thing where 768 00:56:28,920 --> 00:56:31,679 it's like you're like, whoa, I got two of them. I do 769 00:56:31,760 --> 00:56:36,960 think one thing that we saw and I don't know if this changes with Kawai 770 00:56:37,039 --> 00:56:39,960 and PG out if we had another point guard. But it was Game four 771 00:56:40,039 --> 00:56:43,920 when it was pretty obvious that the Suns were just kind of like, we're 772 00:56:43,960 --> 00:56:46,000 gonna let you go to the room, like, score your twos, we're 773 00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:49,840 gonna be able to come back. I don't think that's an indictment on Rust. 774 00:56:49,880 --> 00:56:53,320 I think that happens. I'll take Russ's magical orb it is my name 775 00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:58,800 on the YouTube stream U. But he finished those twos for the most part. 776 00:56:58,840 --> 00:57:01,280 So it's like it's just the usual stuff to kind of be bummed on 777 00:57:01,400 --> 00:57:05,119 Russ, I guess, but like, I don't want to jump the gun. 778 00:57:05,159 --> 00:57:07,760 If anyone has ending else to say about what we liked, what we 779 00:57:07,800 --> 00:57:10,039 did, like, I think we can talk grades and then if we should 780 00:57:10,039 --> 00:57:16,039 bring him back. But I mean, it's not like the Clippers didn't lose 781 00:57:16,079 --> 00:57:19,800 in five games. I did see a couple tweets or people were like, 782 00:57:20,119 --> 00:57:22,119 could you imagine how cooked the Clippers would be if they didn't have Rust. 783 00:57:22,199 --> 00:57:24,360 I'm like, okay, Well, to be fair, they would have lost 784 00:57:24,400 --> 00:57:28,639 in four games. We lost in the probably not because Rust went three of 785 00:57:28,719 --> 00:57:30,960 nineteen in the first game that we won. So it's like, I don't 786 00:57:30,960 --> 00:57:37,719 think we would have been burnt dirt toast like without Rust. But I mean 787 00:57:37,000 --> 00:57:43,119 we still lost in five games. But Adam cooked her more cooked? Did 788 00:57:43,760 --> 00:57:47,280 Adam? What is your postseason grade for Russell Rustbrook Los Angeles Clipper, which 789 00:57:47,320 --> 00:57:53,000 is an insane sentence to say now is what it feels outfit. There is 790 00:57:53,079 --> 00:57:59,920 something about him, with his attributes and his intangibles that do work very well 791 00:58:00,079 --> 00:58:05,079 with the Clippers organization and the street lights over spotlights stuff, and the heart 792 00:58:05,159 --> 00:58:10,119 he plays with and the availability obviously with Russ is huge. He could be 793 00:58:10,199 --> 00:58:14,480 such a good innings eater if you had him for eighty two games when you 794 00:58:14,559 --> 00:58:19,719 know Kawhi and Paul George are likely missing twenty five each. I hate saying 795 00:58:19,719 --> 00:58:22,679 that that it's just accepted at this point, but I just look at the 796 00:58:22,719 --> 00:58:27,800 last few years. That's how it's gone. But I would I would not 797 00:58:27,960 --> 00:58:31,960 mind bringing Russell Westbrook back on the right deal. I think they obviously want 798 00:58:32,039 --> 00:58:39,280 him back. He outperformed expectations and I'm gonna go with B plus a minus 799 00:58:39,400 --> 00:58:45,400 for the playoffs, all right, will playoffs? I think I'm right around 800 00:58:45,440 --> 00:58:50,320 that same range. Yeah, yeah, I'm thinking two stinkers, three great 801 00:58:50,360 --> 00:58:52,719 games. We won one of the stinkers, and he was a huge part 802 00:58:52,719 --> 00:58:59,360 with the intangibles, yeah, yes, with Russ's intangibles. Yeah, and 803 00:59:00,000 --> 00:59:06,159 look, you know when Kawhi went down obviously, so much was put on 804 00:59:06,239 --> 00:59:09,760 him, and I don't know like what the postseason dissection is going to look 805 00:59:09,800 --> 00:59:14,719 like on the Russell Westbrook experience with the Clippers as a whole. But yeah, 806 00:59:15,000 --> 00:59:20,280 I mean it would be foolish to say that he didn't exceed my expectations 807 00:59:20,320 --> 00:59:22,960 from where we came into the playoffs totally. Yeah, I think that's yeah. 808 00:59:23,000 --> 00:59:25,880 I think I'm in the a range. I'm like, hey man, 809 00:59:28,800 --> 00:59:31,039 the first bad game was a wash. We got the win. After that, 810 00:59:32,440 --> 00:59:37,320 we tried like he did great. Um, do we think that Russ 811 00:59:37,360 --> 00:59:40,679 gets brought back? Because I am saying, there's all this tax apron stuff 812 00:59:40,719 --> 00:59:45,440 which does kick in for this next season. Everyone's talking, Oh, I 813 00:59:45,440 --> 00:59:49,840 thought it was the following I thought it was nextgency. Are you sure? 814 00:59:50,039 --> 00:59:52,400 Yeah? I thought it was next free agent. Everyone yelled at me on 815 00:59:52,400 --> 00:59:55,440 Twitter when I talked about what money they should give Russell Westbrook because everyone's saying 816 00:59:55,440 --> 00:59:59,920 he has to come back on a min because of how the new tax apro 817 01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:01,639 and stuff works. So if the new taxpapers and stuff kicks in this year, 818 01:00:01,679 --> 01:00:05,679 the Clippers are far over the cap, they have no they have to 819 01:00:05,679 --> 01:00:07,480 bring him in on a man. Yeah, they have no taxpayer exemption, 820 01:00:08,320 --> 01:00:12,599 so no, no guy for six million like they had this year with John 821 01:00:12,679 --> 01:00:15,719 wall and right, you can't, you can't. I have to clarify for 822 01:00:15,760 --> 01:00:19,920 the YouTube a body and saying listeners, this is speculation. I don't I 823 01:00:19,920 --> 01:00:22,760 don't have the I don't have the CBA written form of me. Let me 824 01:00:22,800 --> 01:00:25,639 go ahead and google, Let me google it. Um. The other things 825 01:00:25,639 --> 01:00:30,400 to worry about when you talk about bringing back Russ Because it looks so good 826 01:00:30,440 --> 01:00:35,800 in the playoffs, that's still not sustainable for winning a championship as good as 827 01:00:35,840 --> 01:00:38,199 he was. We need to know how it works with Kawai and Paul George 828 01:00:38,199 --> 01:00:44,760 and where that ceiling is with us. July first, twenty twenty three is 829 01:00:44,760 --> 01:00:51,000 when the new CBA takes effect. Oh well, so well shit, So 830 01:00:52,039 --> 01:00:54,519 probably got to try and convince him to come back on a minimum if you're 831 01:00:54,519 --> 01:01:01,800 the Clippers, because he talked about like when he was a Utah Jazz for 832 01:01:01,840 --> 01:01:06,360 six hours or whatever it was, um or maybe before that, he talked 833 01:01:06,400 --> 01:01:08,519 about wanting to kind of like get his bag right in the off season. 834 01:01:08,880 --> 01:01:13,239 How is it not already right? Hey, we're not here to count, 835 01:01:13,840 --> 01:01:17,039 we're not here to check pockets. I am I have no band for band 836 01:01:17,079 --> 01:01:21,840 with Russell West, let's go. I think Russell wins that. No disrespect. 837 01:01:22,400 --> 01:01:28,079 Uh, I am not here to count another man's pockets. But I 838 01:01:28,119 --> 01:01:31,480 think you can convince Russ to stay if ty Lou is staying not on a 839 01:01:31,519 --> 01:01:37,440 min The min is hard, right, There's no There's just no way. 840 01:01:37,559 --> 01:01:40,159 But does he want to go to a team for more money where he might 841 01:01:40,239 --> 01:01:44,559 not win or be the starting point card? Because he's gonna be the starting 842 01:01:44,599 --> 01:01:45,960 point guard. He's talking about a lot of money, man, Like, 843 01:01:46,760 --> 01:01:52,559 you're not talking about like two three million dollars twelve millions of dollars a year 844 01:01:52,760 --> 01:01:55,239 like that? Dude, No, it's a lot. Is there even a 845 01:01:55,360 --> 01:02:01,199 possibility of making that work considering how deep they've been into the luxury tax where 846 01:02:01,199 --> 01:02:07,880 they would even have money left? I mean the finagling and the moving aparts 847 01:02:07,000 --> 01:02:09,960 that would take to free up money. I think to sign Russ if there 848 01:02:10,119 --> 01:02:15,639 is no mid mid level taxpayer exception, it may just be impossible outside of 849 01:02:15,719 --> 01:02:21,440 him taking the minimum. Maybe I think we're projected to be something like eighty 850 01:02:21,519 --> 01:02:27,599 million dollars over the cap like we have Like yeah, I mean, if 851 01:02:27,599 --> 01:02:30,360 there's no if there's no taxpayer exemption offer. We we don't really have a 852 01:02:30,400 --> 01:02:40,280 lot to offer la location, you don't have to move. And here's the 853 01:02:40,320 --> 01:02:45,760 other thing, here's the championship if what goes our way. I think that 854 01:02:46,760 --> 01:02:50,320 And that's a bag on this team because I know we're already down, so 855 01:02:50,360 --> 01:02:52,320 I don't need to don't don't mean to like kick us or out. We're 856 01:02:52,360 --> 01:02:55,920 not already down. We are out. But I know in the past, 857 01:02:57,000 --> 01:03:01,039 we've seen teams or players rather, you know, willing to take less money 858 01:03:01,039 --> 01:03:06,239 for a team that's a contender. We've seen players willing to take a hometown 859 01:03:06,360 --> 01:03:13,159 discount. You're talking about a hometown discount for contender with seventy percent of their 860 01:03:13,199 --> 01:03:17,480 cap tied up in two guys who might not combined for sixty games. Like 861 01:03:17,960 --> 01:03:22,440 it's just it's a totally different situation, man, than than than other situations 862 01:03:22,480 --> 01:03:27,039 where where people have taken less to go on a contender or taken less to 863 01:03:27,079 --> 01:03:30,000 be at home. And and I'd like to argue about actually because he'd be 864 01:03:30,039 --> 01:03:34,239 playing a bigger role. He's taken them in and he's the starting point guard. 865 01:03:34,559 --> 01:03:37,199 Like he's not a you know, a guy you bring in to bring 866 01:03:37,239 --> 01:03:42,199 some juice off. He's granted a starting role, which is one thing that 867 01:03:42,280 --> 01:03:49,239 we can offer I don't think any other contender can offer. I I'm a 868 01:03:49,239 --> 01:03:52,679 little bit apprehensive about that, to be honest, I still think he would 869 01:03:52,679 --> 01:03:55,679 be best in a bench role. But I agree. But I'm saying, 870 01:03:55,679 --> 01:04:00,320 in a situation where you're getting him to stay, you're I mean, right, 871 01:04:00,880 --> 01:04:02,840 who's going to be the starting point guard if not Russell Westbrook that's currently 872 01:04:02,840 --> 01:04:08,599 on this roster ban Yeah, is still the coach? Or are you the 873 01:04:08,639 --> 01:04:13,119 coach? Now? He likes us, he likes bones. Now, I'm 874 01:04:13,159 --> 01:04:18,079 just saying, if he comes back for the minimum, you're not gonna have 875 01:04:18,159 --> 01:04:23,280 many situations where you can tell Russ, hey, we need you to sacrifice 876 01:04:23,320 --> 01:04:27,440 for the team and do this and play with these lineups. Now, that's 877 01:04:27,880 --> 01:04:31,320 really hard to do, right If he's taking that little amount of money talking 878 01:04:31,320 --> 01:04:39,079 about generational wealth like yeah, he already true, I know, but you 879 01:04:39,159 --> 01:04:42,920 are right, dude, Like ten million dollars is a shit ton of money. 880 01:04:43,079 --> 01:04:45,760 Even if you even if you already are one hundred millionaire or whatever, 881 01:04:45,880 --> 01:04:49,239 ten million dollars that's a that's a lot of money. Man. I'm trying 882 01:04:49,280 --> 01:04:51,559 to look up his career earnings. I mean, I know it's a lot, 883 01:04:51,639 --> 01:04:55,519 but I mean good for him. I do have the numbers with him, 884 01:04:55,559 --> 01:04:58,599 Paul George, and Kawhi Leonard on the floor. It was only ten 885 01:04:58,679 --> 01:05:04,719 games, but for people wondering about how they can mesh together, you know, 886 01:05:04,920 --> 01:05:10,719 their offensive rating was just one ten point five. For reference, the 887 01:05:10,719 --> 01:05:14,280 best offensive rating by a team this season was one eighteen point six by the 888 01:05:14,320 --> 01:05:19,559 Sacramento Kings is mid Their defensive rating, though, was one oh five. 889 01:05:20,119 --> 01:05:24,320 The best defensive rating by a team this season was one oh nine, so 890 01:05:24,360 --> 01:05:29,559 that's actually really good. Their net rating was five point two overall, so 891 01:05:29,719 --> 01:05:33,519 which is de Yeah, it's it's decent, but it's not great. It's 892 01:05:33,679 --> 01:05:39,320 that's the big issue is figuring out how he can play with Kawai and PG. 893 01:05:39,440 --> 01:05:41,199 Everyone's like, oh, they'll figure out how to make it work, 894 01:05:41,199 --> 01:05:44,920 and it's like, well, they kind of figured it out, but we 895 01:05:44,920 --> 01:05:48,519 weren't exactly operating at championship level. Also, Westbrooks earned about three hundred and 896 01:05:48,559 --> 01:05:51,480 forty mills so far in his career. For those of you who are wondering, 897 01:05:53,079 --> 01:05:57,079 Yeah, I mean, like the difference between you know, two years 898 01:05:57,159 --> 01:06:00,880 that I'd like the Men or you know fourteen, you know the fifteen to 899 01:06:00,960 --> 01:06:04,039 seventeen Rangers. I think he could pretty easily get. I think, like 900 01:06:04,519 --> 01:06:09,599 astronomical man, that's a lot of money. I think someone will throw like, 901 01:06:09,920 --> 01:06:15,800 yeah, like twelve to fifteen at him easy. This feels like DAMARDA. 902 01:06:15,920 --> 01:06:18,800 Rosen and that possibility of him coming to the Clippers if he would have 903 01:06:18,840 --> 01:06:23,960 taken the mid level. Right, there were some reports out there that he 904 01:06:24,079 --> 01:06:27,880 was close, but he ends up getting what eighty five million from the Chicago 905 01:06:27,920 --> 01:06:30,599 Bulls, Like was it ever really that close? Right? Yeah? Yeah, 906 01:06:30,639 --> 01:06:35,440 Like what do you want six or eighty five million dollars? It would 907 01:06:35,480 --> 01:06:40,239 have to be about peace of mind for Russ, being on a team where 908 01:06:40,239 --> 01:06:44,559 he's accepted, is able to be himself, he's local, he's got a 909 01:06:44,599 --> 01:06:47,159 family, now he gets to stay here. It would have to be everything 910 01:06:47,239 --> 01:06:51,480 else going in the Clippers favor to sign him on the minimum. Yeah, 911 01:06:51,559 --> 01:06:57,239 I agree, all right, it's seven thirties. There anything else you want 912 01:06:57,239 --> 01:07:00,199 to say to these Clippers fans as they hopefully had a good first day of 913 01:07:00,320 --> 01:07:13,119 the Clippers off season, So absolutely fucking nothing from us, falling brother Noah 914 01:07:13,159 --> 01:07:17,239 Eagle, all right, let's get out of here. It's been a rough 915 01:07:17,320 --> 01:07:19,719 here. It's been a rough here. It was a rough yere. We're 916 01:07:19,719 --> 01:07:24,400 gonna have a tripod for y'all, probably next week, not probably next week, 917 01:07:24,440 --> 01:07:27,320 definitely next week. We're gonna the rest of the team's playoff grades. 918 01:07:27,440 --> 01:07:30,760 Only so many guys played, so it's not like there's a lot to grade. 919 01:07:30,360 --> 01:07:35,719 Um, we're gonna talk retaining Tylu whatever happens between now and then in 920 01:07:35,760 --> 01:07:40,000 Clipperland. We're not going to talk about that lunatic thread that was on tour. 921 01:07:40,079 --> 01:07:43,800 That's what we're not gonna do. Uh will Where can these people review 922 01:07:43,920 --> 01:07:45,920 us if they wanted to tell the world what they thought of our work? 923 01:07:46,280 --> 01:07:48,599 Yeah, so if you want to tell the world what you think about where 924 01:07:48,599 --> 01:07:53,880 you can review us? Over on Apple Podcasts, also over on Spotify. 925 01:07:54,840 --> 01:07:56,800 Hey, we'd love to get those reviews up. You know, let us 926 01:07:56,800 --> 01:07:58,599 know what you think. We'll read it on the show. It doesn't even 927 01:07:58,639 --> 01:08:00,840 have to be good, although we prefer if it was. We do pretty 928 01:08:00,880 --> 01:08:03,920 good work over here. I'd say, if I'm giving us a grade, 929 01:08:04,960 --> 01:08:11,679 pretty good. We might ask for grades once and you got ah, but 930 01:08:11,760 --> 01:08:13,880 you can listen to us. I neither one of those platforms. We're also 931 01:08:13,880 --> 01:08:15,119 on Google Podcasts, We're on Stitcher, We're on deezer. One name is 932 01:08:15,159 --> 01:08:17,319 on music anywhere you listen to podcasts, you can listen to the show. 933 01:08:17,680 --> 01:08:21,399 Please check us out over on YouTube that's at Clippers Podcast. And you can 934 01:08:21,439 --> 01:08:26,279 chop it up with us anytime over on Twitter, that's at Clippers Pod. 935 01:08:26,960 --> 01:08:29,399 She'll love to know it. Eagle, I know it, Eagle fifteen. 936 01:08:29,760 --> 01:08:33,640 Let him know you're gonna miss him. This is something we're gonna look Remember 937 01:08:33,720 --> 01:08:38,640 when he was the voice of the Clippers. Remember that type of thing. 938 01:08:38,760 --> 01:08:41,279 And now he's calling the dang all Super Bowl. It's gonna be crazy. 939 01:08:41,279 --> 01:08:44,920 And know what, Eagle is calling the Clippers in the finals at some point 940 01:08:44,960 --> 01:08:47,720 that'll be a pretty cool full circle moment. All right, the Angels Bowl 941 01:08:47,720 --> 01:08:53,560 will be incredible. All right, we'll be back. But that was one 942 01:08:53,399 --> 01:08:57,600 one forty six next week. Uh yeah, we appreciate everybody for listening. 943 01:08:57,640 --> 01:09:00,199 And this was our first season the Clips to day. This is wonderful and 944 01:09:00,279 --> 01:09:03,520 yeah, hey let's go clips and hope everyone has a good rest of your 945 01:09:03,560 --> 01:09:04,560 week and offseason.