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details. Well awful weekend. It has seen Canello return and win again,
this time in Mexico for the first time over a decade as he gets a
decision victory over a valiant and bloody good Lord John Ryder. We are back
to recap at all on the Fight Freach United Recap podcast. I'm merely the
somewhat competent host t J Reeves. He's our insider from Fight Freach United,
a substack Big Fight Weekend dot Com. Hello Dan, Raphael. Much to
cover on that night news, some nostalgia. How are we doing with Kennello
having returned and having one in Mexico. Not an expected that he won.
He was dominant. Let's get into it with your thoughts here as things begin.
How are you doing very good? You know, we'll get into all
the details. Anything else you need to tell the people before we get roller.
I think they pretty well know. But look, there's a there's a
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For example, last week, it kind of if you're new to the podcast
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By the way, make sure you rate us and review us. Some of
you have been doing that. I was going to ask you this, do
we need to set up another giveaway, another bribery. We need to contemplate
this and think about this for may because we've done these in the past.
It's been a little bit since we've rewarded the audience at least a couple of
weeks. We can get another one goal. Let's let's contemplate on what we
would do there. Because I uh, if people follow my tweets, I
completed like a really big trade of nemorabilia a few days ago. I aware
of said trade, and I do follow your tweets religiously. What is said
trade that you completed for memorabilia? Well, I traded like a combination of
programs, posters, and tickets. I traded like twenty five items and got
back like twenty two of similar items, similar value. But the reason I'm
saying this is because as I was pulling out the items I needed to give
over in my half of the trade, I was going through some of my
material and finding, you know, different things and that potentially duplicate items perhaps
could be used down the road. And can I just I mean, I
don't have to know at all, and we're not going to be here on
Tuesday, but how do you come to a twenty five item trade for twenty
two items? That seems very involved? If it wasn't, and you know,
I love you if not borderline sick that you're trying to congregate twenty five
things to trade for twenty two or twenty three others. That's this is This
is a I'm not going to say who it was, but it's a person
in the boxing business. Okay, Well I've known for over twenty years who
I have had done trades within the past, who was also a significant and
serious collector, and uh, we have been working on this for several months
and we were finally he was in the area, so we actually came to
my home. So it just oh, he came to the raphael A stage.
My wife set to me. All right, as my wife said to
me when we were done, and she was home later that day. She
said, you had a good time making that drug deal today, didn't she?
Yes, okay, so just enlightening and we don't have to go much
further on this. How did it begin? What was the thing you wanted
that began the trade talks? No, there, it wasn't one item.
It's that I know he's got a ton of shit, and you had to
have one thing in particular. You really, there wasn't one thing. We
had really did back and forth and I went through his list of things that
were available. Right. There were definitely some things that were interesting to me
that I didn't have that I wanted that I coveted and whatever, and same
of what I had extras of that he was interested in. And so one
thing leads or another, and he started paring it down, and ultimately we
didn't know exactly what the trade was gonna be. But when you when he
shows up in my house with a bunch of shit, and I've got all
my shit that I know he wants pulled, and then we got to figure
out I'll give you that for this, and we ended up working on it.
And you know, we've been around a long time. You know,
we know what we're saying, So it was just it was it was a
great day for me for my collection, because you can go months, weeks,
whatever, years without finding like a truly nice piece that you're looking for,
and this was a day where it was like almost like a Christmas morning
type of experience, like birthday. So I got in my house where you
were hoping he would just take some other stuff like old appliances, like run
down things in the garage, in the trade as well, just take leave.
Yeah, strictly boxing. I'll give you an examples. So, like
some of this stuff wouldn't mean anything to anybody, but two and I tweeted
these two of the items that I got in the trade, which find from
a monetary point of view, are really not worth much of anything, but
it's worth it to me because it means something to me personally. So what
I got in return among my items was a full ticket and a program from
a IBF Flyweight World Championship fight between the then champion Hall of Famer Mark two
Sharp Johnson again Luis Rollan. It was the very first main event at the
Turning Stone Casino in Verona, New York, in nineteen ninety seven. Why
would I care about something that long ago? I was like my memorable sort
of wondering that, and why why did you care so much about that authentic
ticket? That ticket and the program are from And I didn't pick them up
at the time. I have my uh my credential. It was the first
World Championship fight I ever covered in my career, and so that's meaningful to
me. And he had uh those items and he traded them to me.
That's all that sounds standing there we go. I love that. Now that's
on the low end of like value slash interest, but from the sentimental standpoint.
You've talked about that before, so from the from the interesting and rare
and valuable from a money standpoint, but also something I have been interested in
and did on my oneless for a long time. But we'll just do this
quickly. The best thing I got in return for me for what I wanted
was again a beautiful program from the final bout in the career of Muhammad Ali
against Trevor Bourbon, very scarce program. Wow, So that was for me.
That was the jack button, and he had an next one. I
guess they're not floating around. Okay, this is all good stuff. Love
the ray Field insight. Is it like some of those NBA trades where you're
trying to trade players that have guaranteed contracts that set the bench or don't ever
play anymore? Will you take him? You gotta take his contract? Well,
I want that player, you want this player, but you gotta take
this contract. That's how they do it in the NBA. It wasn't quite
like that, but what I you know, but I gave up some nice
things also. I mean I gave up two rare of vander Holyfield programs.
I gave up, you know, a rare a couple of some rare posts,
not so much rare but hard to sort of hard to get posters,
some nice I gave up a couple of like like in a Way tickets and
Crawford tickets and one Machenko tickets and nice and Fury tickets and Triple G tickets
and Pacaut tickets. And the man does not mess around. That's just why
I want to be the curator of the ray Field collection, as he had
all of that in the collection to be able to make this trade. Yeah,
no one more. Is that the largest trade like this you've made twenty
five or twenty two. I mean it would seem that way, or is
that in terms of the number of items, that's the largest trade. Now,
we have done some we've done some pass trades that were substantial also,
but this was the first one we have done together in a while. And
you're sure that missus Raphael wasn't trying to get him to take other stuff.
Can you please, we need to go to the dump. We need to
go to goodwill or salvage. You take this? Can you take this with
you? Take the arm? It was? It was It was a beautiful
day in the radio collection, the quezon art or whatever else we do.
But this this is interesting though, about your memorabilion, all the anniversaries and
all that kind of stuff. So we've got a lot to get you.
All right, let's get into it now that we put that out there,
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Canelo Alvarez is victorious. I have a couple of thoughts, but you go
first here, Having watched him throughout his career, how did he look in
the home setting in the soccer stadium right outside the suburbs of Guadalajara, as
as John Ryder bled and bled and bled from a busted nose for the last
nine rounds of the fight. How did it all look to you? What
are your thoughts? Well, first of all, I was happy for Canello
that he was able to have that kind of uh, you know, sort
of a you know, hero comes home type of moment. I mean,
that's a big deal for any fighter. And they did a really great job
in terms of the production of of that event. You know, the ring
walk. I mean I was watching and I wasn't present. I've been present
for some of those elaborate sort of ring walks, but that ring walk was
really something special. Watched with the sort of souped up version of Eye and
the Tiger I had never You and I are contemporaries. You and I are
contemporaries. We love the Stallone Rocky series. I've heard ver different versions of
Eye of the Tiger by survivor. The theme used, I had never heard
that. You think that again, somebody help us if you don't know Dan,
and maybe you do know. Is that an original version that he had
somebody do or is that out there? Because I was going, that's eyeh
the Tiger, But I've never I never heard it before. I never heard
either, I mean the most I mean, that was probably the second most
memorable Eye the Tiger entry that I can think of, the first one being
off top of my head. A fight that I was at present at the
MGM was if you remember when Manny Pacoo, who often came into Eye the
Tiger, when he fought Sugar Shane Mosley. It was like the dueling music
stars that had Shane Moseley walked out with LLL Cooljay singing, Mama said knock
him out and then by the way, as in a side ella, I
was sitting in the front row of the media section for that fight, and
in the front row, what they'll do is they'll put chairs in front of
the front row without a table, and those chairs are sort of against your
table, sitting directly in front of me for that fight, and that night
was Elle Coolja, who kept turning around to ask me how I was scoring
it because he was rooting for Shane, and I kept saying, Llo,
your guys, you know I gave him like I gave Llo way wait the
punchline. He's gonna knock him out if he's gonna win, He's got Mama
said, knocked him out. Hello. Was not happy with my scorecard,
but he understood that this guy was losing pretty much every single round. But
anyway, and the Manny Paco walked in to the to the I guess the
second lead singer who you know replaced the original one, uh, survivor of
Survivor, who's saying by the tiger to walk. I remember this vaguely.
Now I gotta go look it up on you see. If they got the
run, they got the ring. I mean that was great. But Canello
Kennella walked in with something spectacular with the fireworks and the lights in the and
then the ramp and they really did an awesome production. That was a sensational
walking and so that just got off to the start. And listen, we
all expected that Kennello Alvarez was gonna win. Most of us thought he would
win my knock out, but I must hit the hat. I'm not wearing
one, but I'll tip the proverbial hat to the just outright incredible toughness and
heart and balls and guts of a John Ryder. This guy, uh,
you know, he may not be blessed with the greatest talent in the real
boxing, but he has as big a heart as you'll see. This guy
took everything badly, messed up nose and earlier fights found or so bleeding from
the nose, bleeding from his mouth. Had been knocked down, almost got
knocked down again with a who like a howardz Er right hand that Canello threw
and I want to see the eighth round just I thought, can we just
stop right there? I thought that was a knockdown, and I know on
the TV call that Todd Grisham and Sergio Sergio Morris said at first, he
said that was a tangling of the feet. I never saw, and I've
watched it back now a couple of times. I never saw that on the
replay. I thought it was a shot on the side of the head.
I thought the referee was out of position to see whether it was tangled feet.
I thought he knocked him down. Did it surprise you? I thought
it could have gone either way. But ultimately it doesn't really make a difference
because you know, it would have been another point in the favor of it
right at the end of the round, right at the bell. Right.
But but so John Ryder, who you know, who I knew was a
hard, hard and tough, you know, good solid fighter coming into this
fight taking the over, you know, which a lot of people didn't expect.
I mean, he ended up going the distance. Good for him,
But no, I'm listening. You gotta respect what this man did and to
be a nine rounds or so with that kind of injury, and to not
only fight the rounds with the injury, but have moments in the rounds even
though he wasn't winning those rounds. Wasn't like he wasn't landing some punches.
And then at the end of the fight, when I felt like Cannello maybe
got a little bit tired, he probably won at least two of the last
three rounds. To me, the you know, I know, some people
were upset because one of the judges had it a shutout for Cannello. The
two other judges had at one eighteen to one on nine. So they gave
John Ryder two rounds, obviously the extra point for the knockdown for Cannello,
which seemed to me the reasonable, like the real scores that like there's always
and we've discussed this before, the range of acceptable scorers in my mind for
this fight would have been anywhere from like eleven to one in favor of Canelo
to maybe nine to three in favor of John Ryder. Why I was gonna
say, what did you have it scored? I gave him two rounds.
I gave him the eleventh round and the twelfth round, so I had it,
you know, ten nothing. And I wasn't just giving him the tenth
and the eleven than twelfth, you know, as a mercy rounds er.
Let's get him on the scoreboard. He won those rounds in my opinion,
and I thought he was well. But I had a ten to also.
I just and the one thing, and I want your thought on this.
I love the guts, but I mean, at what point he wants to
finish. He wants to say that I went the distance, But there are
a lot of guys that can say I went the distance with Kennelo. Also,
it's not like you'd be the only one to have seen your way through
it. At what point do you believe because because I really thought. I
was going back and forth with our colleague David Payne, who was watching in
the middle of the night in England and saying, this is the ninth round,
this is the tenth round. He's not gonna land the haymaker. He's
taking punishment. He's been bleeding from the nose for twenty or thirty minutes of
this fight. At what point does the corner not say, we don't have
a chance to win this anymore, let's let's let's save it for another day.
I mean, as long as he was the nose in that situation,
it's it's more of a superficial injury thing. You're taking a batter into your
head, so it looks bad. Don't get me wrong, because there's so
much blood. But I felt like as long as the fighter was willing and
able to go that I didn't have a problem with that not being stopped.
And David's point and pick it up on this. He was defending himself,
he was firing back. He wanted to still be in there. He end
up he signed up for I'm gonna give it all that I got, and
he was giving it all again even in the twelfth round. Even the twelfth
round, he was still firing back to that point he won. He won
the twelfth round in my mind, and he wanted I think on at least
one of the score guards. Yes, so I'm not. I don't have
a problem. Tony Simms, who was John Ryder's trainer, knows him as
well as anybody I believe cares deeply about him. He knew that his guy
was okay to go. And again, the blood makes a look a lot
worse than it probably is. But he did take He did take a beating.
But Canelo Alvarez, you know, he got hit with some punches too,
not in terms of volume, but he got hit with some hard shots.
Now, the copy box stats, as we discussed numerous times, to
provide a reasonable guide to a fight, even if they're not the end all
be all, and in this fight, Cannello Alvarez literally landed like a little
bit more than double the number of punches over the twelve rounds. He outlanded
John Rider in all twelve rounds, and only in one round did he allow
John Rider to land even double digits that was I believe in the third round,
I believe it was where John Rider landed ten punches, and every other
round of the fight he was nine punches or less. So it was This
may sound kind of weird for as dominant a fight as it was on Canelo
Alvarez's behalf. I gotta be honest. I mean, and I'm a big
Canello fan. Everybody knows that I didn't think he looked spectacular. I think
that he's still a tremendous fighter. He's still one of the best fighters in
boxing, there's no doubt. But I've done this for many years. I
always sort of take a long view of the career of somebody, kind of
look at the career arc and try to always pinpoint at what point does this
fighter reach the absolute apex of his career where he is the king of the
world and he is on the very top where he's going to be, And
in the next fight you sort of go over the top of the mountain a
little bit. So even when you're three or four steps going down the other
side, you're still great. But the decline has started. And with all
due respect to Canella, who was one of the great fighters of our time,
he's going to be a first ballot Hall of Famer. He is the
biggest star in the sport. He's been, in my opinion for me personally,
an absolute pleasure to cover for all these years. I have been ringside
for something like twenty three of us fights or something like that. I believe
that we are now on the other side of that noun. So in my
mind, to me, the apex where he was at the top of his
game, unmatched was on the night at eighteen T Stadium where he beat the
living shit out of him broke the face of Billy Joe Saunders to unify the
titles. And since then he had the loss against Vaal. Now he can
say partly because of the bad left hand. Fair enough, he won,
but didn't look really spectacular against Triple G. In the trilogy fight, neither
one of them looked really good. It's sort of like, you know,
Canello looked just like okay, but Glofkin was way worse. So he won
the fight pretty handily. And you have this fight where again he beats John
Ryder and does so convincingly. I'm not knocking the victory by any means,
but it wasn't the type of dynamic, sort of extra special sort of performance.
We've seen it. So again, I still think Canello is a top
notch guy, but I personally believe that we're on the other side of the
mountain and the decline has to be gone. How long it takes to make
some guys the decline is almost instant, like when Roy Jones went over the
mountain. It was, you know, a crash landing. Some guys,
you know, it takes much. It takes years before they really peter out.
Bernard Hopkins as an example. Canello I don't think is going to be
done in one fight like Roy was or two fights. But I also don't
think we're gonna see him fighting into US fifties the way we did. Bernard
Hopkins still as an effective fighter, but not the greatness that he had once
achieved. Okay, so I put this out there on Big Fight Weekend dot
Com. I'll make two or three points that go along with what you were
saying. The first thing is we all get older. Cannello is thirty two.
He's going to be thirty three in July, and in boxing that is
older than a lot of sports, depending on how much you fought. How
I mean again, he's had sixty three fights now, and you can get
older quicker in boxing in your thirties. Thirties is almost like forty in other
sports. I mean early thirties in the NBA and professional basketball, early thirties
in golf, a non contact sport, early thirties in baseball. Thirty two
thirty three, you're still in your prime. But if you've had a ton
of fights like Canello has had, thirty two or thirty three can be like
forty or forty three in some of these other sports. Okay, So that's
one point. The next point I would make is that Canello, even of
a couple of years ago or three years ago when I wrote this, would
have finished John Ryder off, would have come in, would have sworned him,
would have finished him. I honestly believe that, having watched him throughout
his whole career, whether he was cautious because of Ryder's size, the southpaw
stands. He mentioned after the fight him leaning in with his head, and
he did catch him with his head some Okay. So that's another point that
I don't know that we're gonna see Cannello anymore that we saw against Billy Joe
Saunders or saw before that in all of his other recent wins, Callum's smith
backing up, blah blah blah. I don't know. I don't know.
A couple of points about that, Yep. One is he's still good enough
to be a lot of the top guys. I'm saying whether he has a
rematch with people and wins that, that's a different story. But I don't
look at it like, oh, if he fights David Benavides, it's an
automatic loss. Or if he fights you know whoever, Charlot, if he
moves up, it's a lot. I mean, No, I don't look
at it like that at all, and no means whatsoever. But a couple
of points about that. You talk about the number of fights he's had.
That was a sixty third fight officially. I've talked to people that have done
something like looking into it, some like historian types that have gone and studied
like the micro film in Mexico and that sort of thing. And I've talked
to some of the people at Golden Boy when they first signed him. Here's
the reality. They may not be on the official official record, but when
Canello was a teenager, he's probably got about another fifteen fights that never made
the official ledger. Now, they didn't go you know, they weren't ten
round fights. He was fighting, you know, garbage men and taxi drivers
in Tijuana when he was or you know, Mexico City or whatever when he
was like sixteen years old. But you're still getting in the ring, you're
still getting hit, you're still doing you know, you're still exerting yourself.
So he has another like at least a dozen plus fights are not appropriately recorded.
And as a matter of fact, you know, again my understanding is
that you know, he's even got a couple of losses in there as a
young kid. So he has more than we think he has. And that's
not uncommon in boxing, where record keeping has not really always been a perfect
scenario. There are a lot of fighters that are in history that have different
real numbers of fights cent are on their official ledger. Now, another point
you made about the number of fights he has, it's not the number of
fights, in my opinion, that's really not relevant. It's how many rounds
have you gone. Because you can have a fight that's thirty seconds and that's
not gonna take anything out of you, more than a less out of you.
Than a sparring session in Canelo, albert is a sixty three fights at
age thirty two. This man has had four hundred and seventy two rounds officially,
not including what I believe to be another dozen plus fights that are even
adding to that ledger now to put it in perspective, I actually was looking
this up because I was thinking about it, because it's a kind of crazy,
dorky geeky boxing stuff. If I do Bernard Hopkins, who I just
mentioned before, who was still effective as a world championship level fighter into his
fifties, and who had a lot of fights and fought for a very long
time. He was in his fifties, Like I said, when he retired,
Bernard Hopkins retired with a total number of and he went to distance in
a ton of fights because and Bernard was very defensive minded and you know,
was never in a ton of wars or anything like that. He was well
preserved, which is why he could last into his fifties. Bernard Hopkins finished
his career with sixty seven total fights, so just a few more than Cannello
has presently. And he's still going five hundred and fourteen rounds. So as
a fifty something year old guy. He had five hundred fourteen rounds when he
ended. Cannello was thirty two. He has only a few less fights,
four less fights in BIHAP and almost as many rounds four seventy two would I
say, five thirteen or fifteen fourteen, you're talking about only like about forty
less rounds or so over the course of that career. So that should tell
you where. And Cannello, by the way, as as tremendous of a
fighter as he has been for a long time, I think that anybody that's
being honest would say, even though Cannello has been a pretty good defensive fighter
for a long time, he gets hit more than Bernard Hopkins. Bernard Hopkins
was a masterful fighter in terms of and really you look at the last three
fights to your point, Beebol Glove can even hit him some and now right
or even hit him some. So that's that's starting to show up. And
again you said it. I'm going to say it again here too. He
is still a world class fighter at this point who beats most. We're not
saying that, we're just going down the road. And this is what we
do on the podcast and with the stuff. So I put it this way
as the theme of what I wrote. How much longer are we going to
see him with what he has left in front of him and what he has
to prove. So let's play that out here, just for a second.
In the ring after the fight, he said, I want beeboll, I
wanted it one seventy five. That's what I want. I want the same
terms. Okay, So let's play that out. If they can come to
an agreement and if he can beat him, isn't the logical next thing that
he's going to go for a fight with Better BF for undisputed. I believe
that's and you've talked about this, and I think he's basically intimated as much
that that's what he wants to cement the legacy one more way, go for
undisputed at one seventy five. If if that's not what's behind it, then
why do you care so much about fighting Beeble at one seventy five? Just
fight him at one set. I don't know the reason. I don't believe
that Cannelo's rationale for wanting to fight at one seventy five is has anything whatsoever
to do with Arthur Better BIV whatsoever. It's because he again, this is
Cannello's point of view. He talked about it to me in the interview that's
on our podcast. He spoke about this in the post fight interview with Chris
Mannox on the Zone broadcast. He feels like that he was hampered by the
hand in the first fight. You can believe it or not. I'm just
telling you what Cannello said. We can out of our own opinion. He
keep he keeps saying that the hand was bothering me on the Caleb Plant fight
before the Beeble fight, that he's had it really really real, real issue
was that was the Beeble fight and then the glove Can fight, and he
obviously had the surgery after the glove Can fight. The fact that he had
in his mind a reason why he wasn't at his best against Bivol. He
wants to go back and do it under the same circumstance. Say I can,
my hand is good, I'm in a better condition. I can.
I could work out now because my hand was in good shape. Butevers He's
making the point that he couldn't do the best in his training camp because of
the hand, not because it was so much necessary affect him in the fight
specifically, But the point that he wanted to make is that I wanted on
the same terms because if I force you down to one sixty eight and I
beat you, I'm not going to get the credit I should get is if
I go back to you and defeat you at your at your where you're where
you're you know, one of the champions. And from Bevo's point of view,
he's like, I already beat you at one seventy five. The motivation
for me is I want to be undisputed, so I'll fight you for your
titles at one sixty eight. And Canello doesn't want that. So obviously there's
going to have to be some sort of resolution, because you know, boxers
are stubborn guys. You know, hopefully Eddie Hearn can talk some sense into
both sides and see if they can come up with an appropriate resolution. I'm
not sure what that would be, but Canello is seemed pretty he steadfast,
maut that and listen if you ask me, I mean, yes, Bible
certainly can walk away and say forget it, it's one sixty eight or no,
I'm not doing it, and Cannello could do the same at one seventy
five. But here's the bottom line. Cannello alvasts can still go and fight
pretty much anybody make like nine, you know, eight figures easy Bevall.
If he wants to make the most money, he's going to have to fight
the bigger name. So if you're talking strictly on who holds the leverage in
terms of them, the Moulah, the dough, the door Amy, you
know it's Cannelo. He holds those cards, right. But Beivoll. You
know he's a proud guy. He's a stubborn guy. Also, he's not
going to be forcing anything. I hope that they can, you know,
for their sake figured out now. In my opinion, I get the athletic
concept of it in them, in the mentality, in the ego. And
Eddie Hearn said it best in the post fight interview. I thought, also
he says, we want you know, everybody's saying, well, don't take
that fight as a tough fight, and ed He's like, what are you
talking about? This is what you want these great athletes to do is to
put themselves in danger, take these tough fights. So I personally think if
I was like the advisor for Canello, I was his manager, if I
was his trainer, if I was on his team, and they asked me
from my opinion about what we should do next, I would go back to
my great line from Rocky Too. He's all wrong for us. Maybe we
do not need that man in our lives. And I believe that now,
if he decides to fight him, I'm not I don't knock him. I
give him respect, because it's the toughest fight he can take. In my
mind right now, is to go back then to the Lions, then to
fight against the metri Beeble. He would be better off in terms of the
excitement level of the public and the dollars that could be generated, and the
chances of winning, in my mind, are much greater if you were to
tap David Benavides on the shoulders. I agree with that. I agree with
that, but let's just play it out, because really, these are the
these are the names that we're talking about here, and I don't know what's
much beyond this is what I wrote, beyond him, revenge against Beevil,
which, by the way, he never got a chance for revenge against Lloyd
Mayweather, never got a second fight with him. So beyond the revenge there's
maybe the Benavides fight, and there's maybe if he beats Beevil, the undisputed
fight with better BF. What else is there beyond on like twenty twenty four
to prove and do When you have hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of millions of
dollars, you have plans for life after boxing, You have a family,
you have businesses, you have your golf game, you have hundreds of millions
of dollars put away if you want to, if you want to run a
stable of fighters and prop that up, whatever you want to do. I
don't know, really what's there to prove and do at age thirty four,
five and twenty five or twenty six. I don't know what else is really
there anymore? I mean, and I don't know what you would say the
odds of all these army and he could just go the San King body route
and take a mandatory and make a lot of money against whoever they put in
front of him in the next rotation. There are you know, benefits is
going to become as BC mandatory. David Morrell, who's an excellent young fighter,
you know, who's only got you know what, nine fights, but
is tremendous fighter. He's his WBA mandatory. That's a fight that could get
ordered. That would, I guess, could happen, and you can laugh,
but this is obviously part of the plan. When Natural Boxing signed Edgar
Berlanga, they did so with the thought that at some point in the next
year he's going to fight in what would be a Puerto Rico, Mexico kind
of fight against Canello. Edgar comes back and his first fight with Matchum in
late June in New York City against you know what's the middleweight Jason Quickly Jason
Quickly at the Madison Square Garden Theater. If he wins that fight and looks
good and does what he's supposed to do, which is get a knockout,
there's a chance he would maybe have one more fight after that and then probably
would get a fight with Canello. Now that's obviously a chance to make an
event because Berlanga has a fan following to some degree, and he's exciting,
and he's a big puncher, and it is Mexico, Puerto Rico. So
you were asking me what could he do. I'm just laying out. I'm
not saying I endorse this fight or I endorse that fight. Or I love
that fight or I hate this fight. I'm just saying, you're asking what's
there. So he could go with Bebo if they can work out the wait
scenario. He could maybe throw his hat in and say I want to fight
better be at if he should win his upcoming mandatory against against Callum Smith.
He already beat CAUNL. Smith. I don't think they're going to do a
rematch. He could go that mandatory route. He could say Morrel, he
could try to, you know, see what happens with Berlanga. If he
wants to just make a big event. These are the types of fights he
did talk about with Eddie Renoso prior to the Beeball fight. Let's go,
you know see if we can find a guy that has a title at cruiserweight
and try to make that happen and try to become a five division champion.
So those are all the types of things in my mind that he could do,
and his team is in content and insistent right now, he's gonna still
go back on that twice a year calendar. May of this year that just
happened. Looking at September sixteenth for the September Mexican Independence Day weekend, and
that's what it is. And the other thing about is, as let's say
he makes the Beeble rematch, the way that boxing works is while all that's
playing out, other fights emerge, Other fighters emerge. You know, just
because we look at a list of guys we think he could fight or won't
fight today doesn't mean that, you know, three months, when something else
happens in the ring, that suddenly there's a new opponent that jumps forward.
I say that as an example, the name zang Zila was never on the
lips of anybody as about a possible Tyson Fury opponent. Well, he pulled
off the big win against Joe Joyce, and guess what they're talking about now.
A lot of people are saying that might be the fighter. I agree
with you. Fights make fights. So while we're all sitting here, you
know, looking at the list of contenders at super middleweight and light heavyweight and
middleweights who might move up, etc. Some fight could happen where some way
suddenly somebody emerges and becomes a guy that's, oh, that'd be interesting to
see him fight Canello. So you know, these things have a way of
developing. But again, let's just go on the timeline, and then we're
gonna move on off of this, get to the rest of the card,
and we've got some other news Javonte Davis stuff to talk about, and other
other stuff that we've got as well. You look at his last four fights
Canello before he put this to bed. The fight with Caleb Plant was for
undisputed at one sixty eight four belt era and never been done before. All
right, So then the next fight after that is move up to light heavyweight,
beat the unbeaten b vole if you can, and set yourself on a
course to potentially be undisputed maybe at light heavyweight. It didn't work, So
then the next fight is a trilogy fight with Golovkin. One more fight against
him. That's yes, way overdue by a couple of years or so,
but it was to put to rest. Who really should get their hand raised
out of their three fights, he put that to rest. Now, this
fight was a meaningful fight because he hadn't fought in Mexico in over a decad
You know, all this stuff I'm just saying to the audience. So that's
four fights in a row where there's something significant there. All due respect to
Edgar Berlanga, that's not an all time thing where people care an all time
angle or whatever. Benevite and I know you're not saying that Benavidez is a
little more interesting. I just wonder if we're gonna have much more of Canelo
beyond twenty twenty four, like three more fight? What else is there that
he hasn't already done. And it's not money motivated, it's not standus motivated.
I mean, I will say this, I've never met a fighter in
my life who doesn't like to cash another big check. So as long as
Cannelo was healthy and willing to put the work in, he'll go make millions
of dollars to fight whoever. So yeah, I'm not saying Berlange is some
historical showdown. But if somebody comes to him, If if Eddie Hearn comes
to him and says Canello, well we got like twenty million for you to
fight Edgar Berlanga in Mexico versus Puerto Rico, I'm pretty sure that they'll say
where do we sign? All right? So you know that's the way a
lot of when you get to this stage of your game and you keep have
these big padies coming in. I don't know, anybody doesn't want to have
the big pads to keep coming in. But it's a different situation with him.
And you know this, it's a different situation with him because he's got
hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of millions and business. Don't you know It's never
enough? Well, it never enough. It can be in certain circumstances.
I mean, Mark, let me give you one. Marvin Hagler, it
was enough. He lost to Ray Leonard. He didn't have to come back.
He had his money, he had made his money in the early edies.
You know this. We've talked about the name. He named one guy.
I just named one in a hundred years, but I named one.
That's that's one that that's said it is enough, and there there can be
circumstances where it is. And that's like every fighter that's in their forties thinks
they can come back and become the champion because George Foreman did it. It's
one time that is true. The preponderance of the evidence suggests that the fighters,
as long as they're even if they're not, but if they're, especially
if they're willing and in shape and healthy and still have something left, they're
not going to just walk away when a big pay day is sitting there in
their lap. So I think Canello alurs we justice content to take a monster
pay day to fight somebody on the level of an Edgar Berlinga, as he
would be if he were to be able to have a rematch with Dmita Bebo.
All right, stay tuned on that. On the undercard in Mexico,
l Ray Julio sees our Martinez had some trouble with the little known Panamanian contender
and Ronald Batista. We both have the knockout on this one. It was
looking for a while Batista was actually scoring on Martinez, and I know on
the Zone broadcast they kept saying, what's going on here? He's fighting with
his back along the ropes. He's letting Martinez. Martinez is letting Batista be
the aggressor. Well, then El Ray turned it on and eventually got an
eleventh round stoppage. He did have a knockdown there that wasn't initially ruled a
knockdown. Celestino Ruiz, who's a at times an adventuresome referee, let's be
kind with that. Like that phraseology, it was adventuresome and it had to
be overruled, and I thought it was interesting. On the broadcast where Sergio
Mora and Chris Mannix were trying to get to the bottom of the Mannix went
over and talked to Jose Suleiman. I even knew this. I knew the
WBC has a rule. I've been hanging around with you. The WBC as
a rule where they can use instant replay. Now, if you want to
argue, is it Mauricio Suleiman's job to get up and say that that's what
it should be. But it but still Sergio saying there's no instant replay in
boxing, and I'm going, yeah, there is, and there and there
was in that instance, and that's what it should have been because that clearly
was a knockdown. But anyway, your thoughts on all of that, including
the adventuresome officiating of the referee as l Ray gets the victory eventually by TKO
well very briefly on the replay. There is replay in many jurisdictions around the
world that use it. It's not always done under the same exact guidelines and
circumstances that bothers me, like it drives me a little crazy. They do
use it, like for example, in Las Vegas, you know, and
also throughout Nevada for certain but only on specific instances, and so yes,
replay is used. Now, I do not believe it as part of the
rules and regulations of the of the commission that is overseeing the fight in Mexico
for on Saturday night. And just because the w and I've try to make
this point a lot of times we discussed it as related to the Connor Bend
drug case. The WBC is a sanctioning organization. They have their by laws,
their rules, and all the things that go into what they do.
What they basically are in charge of doing though is conferring titles and doing rankings
and and um, you know. But they get involved with charitable things.
They get involved with training referees and those types of things. But when it
comes to actually how the rules are going to be implemented during the actual fight,
that is strictly up to the local commission. Now, they may speak
to the WBC and take certain things under advisement, you know, such as
you know, who we should appoint as a referee or judge. They may
take an opinion from them, but again they are not responsible before making those
selections in most places in the world, So Mauricio really didn't have the right
to do that in my mind at all. But here's the bottom line.
In the end, the right decision was made correct to me, that's the
most important thing as opposed to standing on ceremony. So yes, the right
decision was made. As I tweeted, could call bad process. So I'm
glad that it worked out. As far as the fight goes, Julio sees
a Martinez to me, is like a magician. Like the fact that he's
escaped as many times as he has with his title still in hand is pretty
remarkable. He's now made six title defenses, and he's had some trouble here
and there. I mean the Royal fight where he was down in a crazy
shootout for a couple of rounds before the headbut ended that fight. Batista was
a very tough customer. When I saw the over under at three and a
half on our bet Us show, I was like, the way that he's
getting out of there in the first couple of rounds. You know, he's
looked really inconsistent. I think chuckol Tito Gonzalez took his soul that night when
he moved up and Wait, he's not been the same since that in my
opinion, and uh, you know, to me honestly, and I like
Martinez. He's a fun fighter to watch and there's always some some kind of
interesting drama associated with his fight when he gets to the ring. But you
know he's gonna lose at any point. I mean, he's not long for
it being champion. It's it's not going to take much in my mind to
get a good guy in there to take care of him fair enough. And
it was impact as you were watching that, did you think that Batista was
right in there to maybe get a decision? How close did you have that?
I don't know if you were efficiently scoring it, but I thought it
was a close fight. I mean I did, I was scoring it.
I didn't. I don't remember what my score was. I don't have it
in front of but my recollection is that I had Martinez but only ahead by
like a couple of rounds. Like it was a competitive fight for sure,
and uh, Batista definitely had his moments. He landed a lot of clean
shots. Mean, Martinez showed pretty good chin. He got knocked into the
ropes a couple of times. Uh, you know, Martinez was the better
man obviously, but it's not it's he's not long for it. It's not
going to be long. I don't think till he's he's out of there.
Like I'll tell you one thing, if he gets the unification fight against Sonny
Edwards, I'm gonna tell you right now, Sony Edward's gonna toy with him,
gonna play with him. He'll play him like a fiddle. That's gonna
be like a you know, a boxing masterclass of Sonny box is how he's
capable of doing, and Martinez just kind of wads in there, you know,
recklessly, without a particular game plan and just tries to wing while punch
of Sonny is a much much advanced defensive fighter who's not going to get hit
with that nonsense. That's a really I mean, they may make that fight.
I mean from an action point of view, it certainly the Bam Arrigus
fight would probably make a better for for the fans. That may be a
little ways off just given the nature of the injury that Bam is overcoming,
but hopefully those unifications will happen because they need to put him in that kind
of fight soon because he's not gonna keep making it through these Batista type fights
without losing the title at some point. But again, it was a good
It was a good fight, Like you said, I mean listen as an
overall pay per view, I know a lot of people ripped it. You
know, it shouldn't have been on pay per view. I'm not arguing that
point. It was. It was a pay per view because Canello. It
was maybe considered a one sided mismatch in terms of on paper, fair enough,
But if you paid the money and you spent the time, and you
watched the show, the five dou said encompassed the pay per view broadcast.
It was an entertaining event because Canello and Ryder, despite the fact that it
was pretty one sided, that was an entertaining fight for Damn Shore. The
fight between Martinez and Batissa was a very entertaining fight for Damn Shore. The
fight before that, which which was the junior welter at Gabriel Golas, the
hometown Fighter getting a generous, if you will, split decision against Steve Spark.
I thought Spark won that fight, but that was a very entertaining fight.
And even if you go beyond that, the uh the fight with the
prospect Rod it's his name, Nathan Rodriguez, who eked out a majority decision
over the veteran Alexander Mehia. That kid got a little bit of a lesson
and he barely edged out. But that was a solid fight. The only
stinker on the car, frankly was the opening fight between the former light heavyweight
champion Alexander Vodzick was making a comeback against Rickhard's blot Nicks, which was like
watching U you know, watching the death for the first five rounds or so,
and then finally Vozick found a big shot and knocked Ricard blot Nicks out
with basically one shot, so at least it had an exciting ending. But
that was the one bad fight, and actually, in my mind on paper,
was actually not a bad fight at all. But that was a good
knockout. Like I said, the rest of the fights on the undercard were
entertaining, uh and of course culminating with the main event, which was one
sided but entertaining. But you know, the Martinez fight was competitive, that
Rodriguez Mahia fight was competitive, and certainly the Spark and Goal last fight,
even though I thought Spark clearly was the winner, was competitive and Spark did
get knocked out, so you know, I felt like I got my money's
worth. I'm not complaining. And you know what, unlike the Garcia of
nonsense against Tank Davis, I didn't hear anybody having problems with their de Zone
app. I didn't see any feedback on Twitter. You know, everything worked
fine for me, So I was happy about that. Yeah, far less
demand, probably at least in the in the immediacy of trying to order it
the night of an hour before, thirty minutes before, and there's a replay
thankfully Bombard. Yeah, and there's a replay there too, and bombarding with
it on that Okay, So a couple of fight news items off of that
pay per view, and then I promise we're going to get to the Givan
Davis sentencing that we're gonna talk about here, where he did not end up
getting jail time on Friday afternoon, which is interesting, and got house arrest
instead. So two fight announcements from match Room, they make it official what
had been out there, that Regis program has signed with them the WBC one
hundred forty pound champ and they have a fight immediately lined up for him.
Give us the details real quick on that please. Yeah. So he'd been
talking to them even also hearing offers from other promoters out of top rank Head
talked to him about doing something. Potentially he decided to take up the offer
from Eddie Hearn. So his first fight is going And I reported this that
if he signed with match Roam, this was going to be the fight,
and this is going to be the opponent, this is going to be the
location. I went three for three on what I wrote. He will in
fact fight at home in New Orleans. No fight will take place on June
seventeenth at what is called the Smoothie King Center. In the rings, he
will fight the Australian fighter who was also with match Room Boxing named Liam Paro,
who was undefeated, who's had one fight with match Room previously. He
scored a first round knockout against a undefeated Australian named Rock Jarvis on one of
maybe the first or one of the first fights that Matchum ever did in Australia.
Is it the biggest matchup ever? No, and Regis is doing what
lots of guys who win titles have done, which is you know what,
I'm not saying it's a soft touch, but you're not exactly exerting yourself by
facing you know, the number one guy in your weight class. So this
is sort of like a a softer touch. Let's say a homecoming back in
New Orleans. Get to win. It's a three I reported in my piece
that he signed a fight deal with Matchroom Boxing. I'll give myself a little
plug. Go on my on my Substack newsletter, Dan Rayfield dot substack dot
com. You can read what the purses are for those three fights, as
I reported, and the idea is to win that fight and to see what
else he can get that's bigger. Now here's the problem. Problem in quote
Marks Regis said on the has said numerous times, said it again in the
interview he did when they announced this signing on the broadcast between the Canelo and
writer. I want all the big fights. I want to do this,
I want to do that. I'm happy to be with Matrium. I'm excited
to get started. I can't wait to go home. And I want to
fight Ryan Garcia, and I want to find Tank Davis, and I want
to fight a rematch with Josh Taylor, and I want to I want to
fight Roly Romero and I want to fight Sabrial Mattias, and that's good.
I'd like to hear that from guys they want to you know, he wants
the names. I mean, fine. The problem is, and this is
not a negative to match Room because they do a hell of a job promoting
a lot of their events. You just signed with match Room. You're taking
a soft or touch in Liam Carrow and all the all the guys you would
said you want to fight are highly unlikely to happen. Because Josh Taylor is
on ESPN with top Rank. He's got to play with TV. Molobis coming
up next month. Role Romero is on PBC fighting on Showtime. Sabrial Mattias
has been fighting on Showtime and is with PBC now as an aside. My
sources tell me that Sirbrial Mattias is free agent and is shopping around and may
end up winding up at match Room, which would make that pighte possible.
Javanta Davis is with Showtime and fighting on pay per view, highly unlikely that
would happen. Ryan Garcia is with a from promoter and Golden Boy. At
least they're on the same platform in the zone. But I'm pretty sure that
Ryan Garcia when he comes back, is not necessarily going to be going after
Regions program in his first fight coming off the knockout loss against Tank Davis.
Point is he named all these guys, these top guys you want to fight,
and basically none of them are possible, at least in the short term.
So you know, if you are about what about and you wrote this
and you talked to Oshaky Froster, right O'shaki Foster says that he's a free
agent and he has one version of the belt. Couldn't that be turns that
wrong? First of all, Oshaki's at one thirty. And not only that,
but I redis in Oshaki. This I don't think you know this.
Regis in Oshaki are very close friends, they have the same trainer. They
ain't fight each other. That would never happen anyway. Okay, who is
the well, then who was the other champion in the mix besides Taylor and
besides uh Rolie is fighting we think for the WBA title coming up. But
if the other one is the IBF champion is Surbrial Mattias Matias. Okay,
so if you want a unification, good luck by not but you know he
had talked the top rank they could have worked it out. Uh. Top
Rank has Taylor tia Fimo, Jose Ramirez, who was a former unified out
older who should have The two of them should have fought ages ago. They've
both, in my opinion, sort of avoided each other in one sense because
he signed with match Room and Ramirez we already went through how he didn't take
the fight back, uh you know at the end of last year, etc.
Or in the when they are ordered the purse bid for earlier this year.
Uh you know. They also have Arnold Barbos who was an undefeated contender,
uh that type of thing. And so the fighters that match Room has
not the guys who were the big names that Regis was mentioning. They have
Paro obviously that's uh, you know one of the guys. They just signed,
Jack Catterall, who's the top contender that would obviously be uh a kind
of fight. They have a very good talented kid, an olympian who's undefeated
with a big mouth, who still needs to maybe fight another bigger name to
get some notoriety in Richards and Hitchens, who's a great talent. They have
Montana Love, who obviously has the loss of Steve Spark by disqualification. You
know they have I guess they have Golas who had the gift of victory on
the Canelo undercard the other night. But those are the types of names you're
probably gonna hear about for Regis in the next couple of fights. But he's
an exciting fighter. He ultimately wants Josh Taylor again, but that has not
happened now for over three years, and don't know that it is going to
happen anytime soon. It is interesting. Just one more note, Teya.
Femoe Lopez is on the record, for what it's worth, is saying,
this is my last fight with top rank and ESPN. I'm a free agent
and I will go somewhere else. I'm paraphrasing what he was saying. Who
No, I'll just say this. I don't I don't know the exact status
of his contract, but I will tell you this from my experience, boxers
often are the ones who know the least about their own contracts. Wait a
minute, I'm not free. I still tell you right now, I can
guarantee you this. If FEMO should happen to win the World Championship against Josh
Taylor and that contract most definitely extends. And let's finish up on the news
from that show. This is the Cuban gold medalist that they announced that they
have signed and he will obviously be making his debut, his professional debut.
Shortly tell us more naturroom boxing besides landing the contract of regious program that they
announced on Saturday, and this is an assigning they've been working on. I
guess for a while. One of the great amateurs in the world, and
his name is Andy Cruiz. He's from Cuba. He is twenty seven years
old. He was the twenty twenty Tokyo Olympic gold medalist in the lightweight division.
He is a three time world amateur champion. When you win an Olympic
gold medal and you win three world amateur championships, and that's like Usk level
Lomachenko level, that type of caliber of an amateur fighter, I guess he
defected. He's also won Pan American championships, I mean basically all the top
amateur tournaments out there he has won and won multiple times except for the Olympic
Games. And of those who are familiar who watched the two and twenty which
were delayed into two and twenty one due to the pandemic. In the gold
medal final of the Tokyo Games, he defeated Keshan Davis, the American top
prospect with top rank who won the silver medal in that in that loss,
so this is a big signing for him. He's going to turn pro in
a ten rounder. Again, that's Lomachenko level stuff. He's not messed round
with four rounders and six rounders and eight rounders. He's going right to the
ten rounder. That means they're gonna move to this guy very very fast.
Uh. You know Eddie Hearn has you know, he loves to do.
We're talking about how big of a deal this is, but kind of agree
with him. He's one of the top amateurs of recent times in all of
boxing, and now he's coming to the United States to fight and it should
be interesting. Now, I'm not sure what kind of professional style he is
going to employ. Traditionally, a lot of the Cubans who have turned pro
have not necessar They've been very talented, but not necessarily provided entertainment value.
There are exceptions, Joel Castmayer, King Conortz, you know a few other
guys morel recently David Morrell absolutely. So my question is I know the talent
that Andy Cruz has because I have seen him fight as an amateur many times.
As professional, I wonder is he gonna be more Rigando or more and
Morale. That's what I'm waiting to see. And Ugas, by the way,
is another guy that's been exciting and been a world champion, beat Manny
Pakia as well. So all right, we'll see what happens with him turning
pro. And that's interesting as you're reporting that he's going to fight in a
ten round fight right out of the box on that. Okay, So since
we left the airwaves on the paper on the preview, Dan Raphael back on
Friday, the sentencing we actually we recorded on Thursday evening, released the podcast
on Friday. We even had our bet Us Boxing show. Since all of
that happened. Jervonte Davis sentenced in a Baltimore County courtroom on Friday for the
twenty twenty hit and run charges and his plea agreement from back in February.
As we had talked about on a couple of different occasions, the belief was
that he was going to be sentenced to jail time all right, So things
unfolded Friday, and he was in fact sent as it turns out, from
the judge, the Baltimore Circuit Judge Alphea Handy, to twenty six months.
She sentenced him to twenty six months. But then she did something interesting,
and judges have latitude to do this. She spared him anytime in actual jail
and instead put conditions on keeping him out of jail. That is ninety days
of home confinement or house arrest, depending on your terminology, for whatever jurisdiction
you like, plus two hundred hours of community service that's not insignificant, and
three years probation for any other trouble. That was the sentence of Okay,
So just on the first BLUs reaction, then we'll get into this a little
bit more. Were you as surprised as I was? And I was reporting
this Friday? He didn't get locked up immediately in the Baltimore County jail like
we all thought he was going to at least get ninety days six months or
more. He only got home confinement and he walked out of the Baltimore court,
right, I mean Friday, your thoughts. I'm no lawyer, obviously
I didn't I don't play one on TV. But last I checked, if
you get convicted of a felony of that type. This is we're not talking
about like a white collar type of you know, a business transaction or something
like that. But a lot of those folks go to jail. Also,
even if it's a country club. So to get convicted on a felony where
it's a hit and run situation plus three other counts, I believe that we're
misdemeanors. And and even if she sentence she's a twenty six months, that
doesn't mean anything because sentence into one hundred years. If you're gonna only do
ninety days at home, what's the big deal? Like that's like, you
know, you tell your kids, hey, you're grounded for a week no
TV, but it's suspended after two days. They can watch thee And I
know I know what you mean in theme by that and by theory by that.
But here's one nuance. And again I know enough legal leads to be
dangerous being around lawyers. My weather still thinks this day I should have been
a lawyer, by the way, all right, So one interesting thing is
because that was the sentence and she's put these terms in what can happen if
you violate probation, If you violate this stuff, is we reinstitute This was
the sentence twenty six months in the Baltimore County jail. Now to him,
though, that's right, and that's up to him now. And I'm not
saying that he would ever do jail time. I'm just saying, if you
screw up on probation, if you don't go and fulfill the community service,
if you violate the house arrest, this is what's staring at you. It's
a twenty six month sentence. But what she did was she suspended it in
lieu of if you do these other things here, so these yeah, go
ahead. I was surprised. I mean, I listen, I wasn't rooting
for him to go to jail already, right, but it would just surprise
me that a conviction on a felony in this type of case, particularly when
you've had past legal issues like Javante, asked that there was no jail time,
particularly when a previous judge in the case had declined at offer of sixty
days home confinement and was agreed between the prosecution and the Davis team and the
judge in the case at the time said no can do. It's not strong
enough because there's no jail. So when they went back into court for the
sentencing, I figured he's gonna get something. Whatever was three months, six
months, nine months. I mean, it wasn't gonna be like life and
sentence, right know, like that. But so I was surprised. I
mean, we've seen, you know, didn't like Martha Stewart go to jail
for like that's a lot less serious than you know, running down you know,
an injuring four people with injuries, right right, Okay, So from
the reporting, this is interesting. There were no cameras allowing the courtroom.
There were no recordings allowed, so we couldn't hear. Here's what we know.
Javonte Davis never spoke at the hearing. The only thing that happened was
his attorney spoke on his behalf. He didn't speak after this was over with
on Friday. It's interesting that the district attorney, the assistant district attorney in
the courtroom basically said to the judge in the hearing that we're gonna honor I
haven't. He said, I have an ethical obligation And again I'm gonna credit
the reporter here from the Baltimore banner. Dylan Siegel bomb is his name.
Dylan, you did a great jail job. If you hear this at some
point of recounting what was said in the courtroom, because this is the only
record that we have of it. So the prosecutor stood up and said,
we're going to recommend the previous deal that we gave. I have an ethical
obligation, is what he said to the judge. Assistant attorney David Owens said,
I have an ethically I'm ethically bound to stand behind the original offer that
we gave mister Davis. So that was sixty days of home confinement a right.
So then she heard from the defense and the defense attorney to his attorney,
Michael Tomko is his name, spoke to the judge about how he has
been a hero in the Baltimore community, that he's trying to make his life
right. Tomko made the suggestion that he wasn't just heartless, that he was
willing to help the passenger in his vehicle get medical attention. Now he didn't
mention the passengers in the other vehicle. He then said to the judge,
Judge, he's a bad driver, and maybe he's a knucklehead. Again.
This is Dylan Siegelbaum transcribing what was said by the defense attorney four Tank Davis.
He's saying that to the judge. The judge then pointed out, mister
Davis, you've not had a valid driver's license in Maryland since twenty eighteen,
and you were repeatedly driving in Baltimore, including getting in this hitting hit and
run. You know what were you thinking. She said that to him,
and he didn't have to really answer. It was almost rhetorical. Then there
was a point in time where she said, Okay, I'm going to sendence
you to ninety days of home confinement. And she said that will not be
done at your home in Miami. That will be done here in Baltimore,
to which tom Co the defense attorney, again from the transcription, stood up
and said, Judge, as he allowed to go to the gym to in
other words, to work out to box. Judge Handy said, no,
he is not, to which Jervonte Davis, according to the reporter, had
his head down and made a face about that. The judge then addressed that,
addressed Jervonte Davis, and said, sir, if you prefer, you
can do this in the city jail quote unquote, and maybe they have a
gym there for you. And at that, can I interrupt for one second?
Okay, Jervonte Davis has made millions and millions of dollars. If he
wants to have a gym, he can have one put into his home right
anytime. By the way, there's so folks, no he lives. He's
from Baltimore. He currently lives in South Florida. It is my understanding and
this reporter, I believe, also reported this. He will do the home
confinement at the house of his trainer at Calvin Ford, and Calvin Ford stood
up in front of the judge and said, Judge, I will have him
in my house. I will be in charge of making sure that he's at
my house over nine hours, etc. In the hearing, this is what
was going on. But there was a moment apparently where she looked at Jervonte
Davis and said, you can do this ninety days essentially in the city jail
if you don't want to go along with this. So the bottom line is
she put these conditions on him not going to jail. That's what the fans
need to know. So now it's up to him, as you mentioned two
hundred hours of community service is not insignificant. Think about this. If you
spend a five hour day with the kids, are doing whatever you're doing,
to have two one hundred hours, you've got to do that forty times over
the allotment here. That is a lot of community service she pulled on him
as a condition. Well, still think he's got to do that community service
in Baltimore County, which means he's not going back home to South Florida to
do the community's service. So I mean, honestly, two hundred hours of
community's service and three months in your coach's house, I'll take that any day
of the week that I'm going to go to to the county lock Cup for
ninety days. I mean, okay, let's let's be real about it.
And so here's the next thing is that obviously he's going to be allowed to
travel to Miami for the conclusion of the latest domestic violence arrest. You've been
reporting on this, we've been talking about this on the podcast. That's at
the end of this month, and then we see what if anything comes of
that. We already know in that case that the accuser has recanted and so
maybe those charges are going to get completely diss that case is over. This
is simply this is a if she's not. She already told the woman that
made the accusation, who was the mother of one of his daughters, has
already told that the Florida court that you will not testify if the if the
victim, that the alleged victim is not going to be willing to say,
and he's the accuser, then there's no case from the you know, from
the from they have to dispense this, they have to finish it. He's
gonna show up. That's simply a formality. That case is going away.
He'll do his ninety days for those who care more about the boxing than the
than the legal ease. The bottom line is if he starts his sentence,
you know around now we're here at the beginning of May, that means he's
he's in the house confinement. Nay June, July. Uh, he gets
out in July, and there'd be no reason why he won't get a third
fight in this year. I would certainly suspect them unless there's some issue as
you mentioned, and he breaks the rules and he finds himself some more hot
water. But we're gonna see Tank Davis back in the ring, and I
suspect, by the way, they'll find a way from the train, even
if it's in the house to do something. Um, he'll fight presumably at
the end of the yarn, you know, October, November, December,
because you know, he he's not gonna have to training camp in the house.
But he can He can run a treadmill, he can lift weights,
he can do all kinds of things that will keep him in some kind of
condition, certainly a lot better than if you're living in a county jail for
ninety days and you can't really do a whole lot. So you know,
I would suspect that if if he keeps his nose to the grindstone and stays
out of trouble for the during the course of that sentence, we'll see him
back in for a third fight this year. And when we look back on
his record and you see he fought in January, and then he fought again
with the big fight against Ryan Garcia in April, and then comes back in
like say November ish and has another fight at the end of the year.
For a guy that did three months, you know, under this situation,
that's still as active as it gets for these bigger names in boxing right now
to have three fights in the calendar year. So you know, we'll see
what happens with that. But uh, I just hope that Jervonti Davis learns
a lesson like this. He's had troubles before that. The only one that
seems he can ruin his career at the moment is himself. He's got so
much promise to be literally, you know, as we talked about with Canello
perhaps turning the back nine and Christall on the ascent at twenty eight, ye,
he's got a chance to really be, you know, in the in
the spotlight of that as that big time guy that you know is the is
the guy that everybody gravitates towards in and around his weight classes to be the
a side of these major events and make a huge money and huge legacy.
And as I said, it's the only one that can fuck that up is
him. And at this point, if this was not a wake up call
on how close he came in all the previous instances, he's standing before a
judge, it could have very easily said, right then and right there,
you are sentenced to ninety days six months, nine months, and they're taking
you away right now and it did not happen. So that's fortunate for him.
That's the way it plays out, whether you agree with it or not.
And by the way, we should just mention here too, there's gonna
you know, there's all kinds of stuff about when you have money, you
have wealth, and we understand this. You get a better defense attorney,
you get a better defense, you get all of those kind of things.
But these kind of sentences get knocked back all the time to things like community
service, house arrest, etc. Judge knew she was under scrutiny, high
media attention in the Baltimore area. She followed the law, she did the
sentence, and now, as you mentioned, it's up to him. So
there we go on Javonte Davis and the legal stuff. One more thing before
we're done real quick. There's another anniversary coming Monday, and it's the beginning
right of the paqui Ou trilogy with Marquez. And you were there ringside for
the featherweight supremacy fight that that night on May the eighth of two thousand and
four. Tell me more about that in the nosalgia. How could that you
know? I know we say this like a broken record, I guess,
but how could that be nineteen years ago coming up on Monday when this comes
out. But listen, nobody knew at the time that these guys were going
to become all time rivals. Everybody knew at the time that was a great
matchup. They were the two best featherweights in the world at that moment in
time. You know, pac out had won the lineal title when he knocked
out Marco Antonio Berrera. I'm Nanuel Marquez held I believe he was a unified
champion. He I think he had the IBF and the WBA titles. And
they met at the MGM, and you know, it was just an incredible
fight. I mean, and the thing about it that was so wild about
it, it reminded me a little bit. Take for if people remember,
remember Felix Trinidad against Fernando Vargas, they had a junior middleweight unification fight at
the at the end of two thousand. I covered that fight also, and
that was one of the most anticipated fights I can remember, even all these
years later, that fight looked like it was gonna be over in the first
round because Felix Trinidad dropped Fernando Vargas harshly twice and amazing. You know,
you know, here we think and we're gonna get the fight of deer in
some kind of epic fight. And it's like, okay, we're like,
you know what, a minute and half into the final shit, the fight's
almost you know, it looks like it's in the overt But he got he
got off the deck, Vargus, and he survived in like a professional,
and he got himself back into and they had a great battle, back and
forth, back and forth. It was a tremendous fight. And so when
we saw this fight between pac Yo and Markz, suddenly what we think is
going to be a great matchup, and all of a sudden, the whirlwind
of Danny Packo puts Marquees on the deck, not once, not twice,
puts him down three times. Now, I didn't feel like the fight necessarily
should have been stopped because of the third knockdown, but a lot of referees,
as a matter of course, they you know, a guy gets shopped
for the third time, I'm just gonna call day and wave the fight off.
So I mean think you just you never can't down now, Joe Cortez,
who's you know, was for many many years one of the best referees
in boxing, now retired. He allowed that fight to go on. It
was the right decision because Marquees not only got back into the fight, but
on many these people's minds, he won the fight. In the end,
they called it a draw. I personally thought Marquez won the fight despite the
three knockdowns. There is controversy, of course, because there's always controversy in
boxing. One of the judges scored that first round instead of ten to six,
because that would typically what three knockdowns would mean, you know, ten
nine plus the extra points on the knockdowns, only scored at ten to seven
and made the point afterwards. I guess it was Burt Clements. I believe
it was that said he didn't know you could scored ten six, which I
found to be kind of weird because I never heard anybody say he can't score
around ten sikes of their three knockdowns. In any event, that the outcome
would have been different if he scored at ten to seven. But even even
with that, the fact that they had the draw allowed there to be a
rematch and they have such another great fight later on they met a third time
and then a fourth time, and it's you know, one of the great
there's not that many four fight series, and of course a boxing between you
know, top notch Hall of Fame level guys, but this is up there.
And they put on one great fight, but two, but three,
but four great fights, culminating frankly with the fourth fight with the monster knockout
that Marquez handled pack here with. You know, all three of the first
fights was all about you know, who won, controversy, This a draw
could have been this way, a split decision, a majority decision. And
finally, the whole point of the fourth fight was are we going to finally
get a clear winner whatever happens, and Marquez lefte, Yeah, we got
a clear winner on that punch with Manny face first on the mat. As
you've talked about. That is uh, you know, I'm blessed. I
was able to, you know, cover all four of their fights at ringside.
It started with this fight, and I'll tell you a little story about
that. When Marquez and Pacyo fight was happening, I was ready to go
out to cover the fight. I was still working at USA today. This
is in May of two thousand and four. I didn't start at ESPN until
two thousand and five, and a couple of days before I went to Las
Vegas to cover that fight, my grandmother passed, and so, you know,
we all gathered in Florida for my grandmother's funeral, and but I so
really badly wanted to see the fight. I sucked it up and I went
to the fight. I went to the funeral, obviously, but I flew
home to Virginia and then you know, like the next day, I think
I went to Vegas, and I was actually supposed to stay in Vegas for
about ten days because the following Saturday, after Pacyo fought Marquees for the first
time, was the first fight between Roy Joe. I can't remember for the
first fight or the second. I guess it was the first fight. Maybe
it was second fight. I can't remember, but the bottom line was it
was supposed to be one of the first two matches between Roy Jones and Antonio
Tarver. I got out there and I covered the fight. It was a
great fight between Marquees and Asques. But there was so much shit going on
at home, and I just was so depressed about my grandmother's death and everything
that I was like, I fucking I can't stay, and I talked to
the office and I was like, I came home and I didn't stay for
the Joe's Harvor fight. But that's how much I wanted to see the Marquess
Pacio fight that even at this moment of a lot of turmoil in my family,
I went. I covered the fight and decided I couldn't stay and I
came home to handle things at home. But to Pacio Marques fight, I
you know, in retrospect, I'm glad that I made the decision to go
there to cover that fight because it was one of the great fights that we've
seen historical matchup between two all time greats. Kind a chance to cover all
four of their fights and many others of their fights. It was a tremendous,
tremendous battle. Maybe not on the level of the Corralis Castillo fight that
we talked about last week in terms of anniversaries, but certainly of that of
that timeframe, of the early two thousands, of that decade, two thousand
and two and ten. One of the very best fights that you'll ever see,
and what heart of Marquess to stay in there after getting dropped three times
and come back and fight them on even terms and again I thought he won
the fight in the end, and wow, but I actually thought that Marquez
got the better of most of those fights in the end. But Paco got
the benefit in a couple of those fights, and they got the draw in
this fight, and then obviously got face first knocked out in the fourth fight.
And you know, there's a lot of great stories from those two fighters
that they gave us in that four fight series, and that started it great
nostalgia from you. By the way, it was Tarvar's second round knockout,
the thunderous punch. That anniversary is the following week. It's next weekend.
So that's the one that I that I ended up. I was supposed to
go and credit, which is which is still one of the all time classic
get off lines during the pre fight instructions. You got any excuses, tonight,
Roy, we might have to find the magic Man. The magic Man
is still in my area here in West central Florida in Tampa to talk to
us about that about that night. I still remember interviewing him on the radio
local radio in and around that time. Got any excuses, tonight, Roy,
and then he backed it up with a big, booming punch, and
Marquez backed it up once and for all against Manny Pacquiao on the nostalgia.
Love that again. Great stuff here from the Canelo discussion and what happens with
him next, also the rest of the fight news that we went over.
We encourage you read Dan Substack at Fight Freaks Unite. He his substack.
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a preview heading into the weekend, and then the recap off the weekend.
As always, I love the insight and the analysis. Later this week we
will be talking about a couple of different shows, including Rolely Romero in Action.
This was supposed to be right to fight with Puyo, but Puyo is
off of that fight card on showtime. Have I figured out yet, just
real quick, whether that is going to be for the WBA title or that's
still trying to It's going to be interesting now. I've been in communication,
not not this weekend, because Gilberto Mendoza, who was the president of the
w BA, was actually in Guadalajara at the Canelofight. We did exchange like
a couple of texts, but he was very you know, doing his thing
with the fight that they were dealing with there. But at the time I
last spoke with him about it, they were still way on some things from
the Puyo camp and everything before they could actually figure out for sure how they're
going to handle the Romero fight against Barroso. It will either be for the
vacant interim WBA title while they figure out what's going on with Puyo, or
they could put Puyo potentially like and make him a champion in recess and make
it for the full title. It's some ways, shape or form, there
will be a belt in the ring on that night. It's just a matter
of which belt it is, you know. I guess they got to figure
out all the particular So, like in my schedule right now, just listen
it as a twelve round junior welterweight fight because it has not been clarified one
way or the other which belt it's for, but regardless, it's you know,
that's the main event. And Barroso has been in some good fights and
we all know about rolling Romero's seen him back for the first time since he
got knocked out by by Javonte Davis. So that's that's the showtime main event.
It's not like the biggest fight in the world, but anytime Rolly's in
the ring, it's fun because he's gonna talk a lot of shit and ESPN.
By the way, He's got Jana Beg defending his WBO title Saturday night
stocked in California. Jason Maloney fights for the vacant WBO Bannumway title also in
the co feature, So we got plenty to talk about later this week in
the preview mode, etc. My friend, thank you great insight and analysis.
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