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M The following presentation is in al
Marta Studios production. Welcome back truth seekers

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from around the world. It's time
for another edition of the flat Earth Files

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and standing by we have another great
guest for you to see. Evening.

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As we've record, it is Monday, May the eighth, that's just after

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seven pm Eastern time. And just
a couple quick reminders before we bring in

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our guests this evening, please do
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at gmail dot com. Again,
it is the flat earth Files at gmail

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dot com, like Bernard did,
and right now, I am booked out

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through May and I have five people
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Again, it is the flat earth
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go. The housekeepings out of the
way. It's time to bring on our

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very special guest. He reached out
a while ago and we're finally able to

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connect to night. And this is
Bernard from Georgia. And again, like

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all the other guests, will have
his email in the show descriptions. So

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if Bernard's message resonates with you,
which I think it will, you can

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reach out to him and you know, leave him your thoughts about tonight's podcast.

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Without any further ado, let's welcome
Bernard to the program Sir, how

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are you doing tonight? I'm doing
good. Well, it's really nice to

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have you on the show. And
let's start off by, of course introducing

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yourself to everyone a little bit about
your background. May I'm still I'm currently

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employed with the Pulsist Service, married, three children, two grandchildren. Also

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pastor a church. Wow, so
yeah, you pastor a church and you

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work full time at the post office. Yep, holy smoke, you are

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a busy, busy man. What's
what's the size of your congregation right now?

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It's it's a small church, Okay, I mean, there's no such

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things as too small a church.
Every every person counts. But still,

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the message is every bit important.
If you're talking to five people or five

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hundred rank that's right, that's right. Well, God bless you for all

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your hard work. And my dad
was a career postal worker as well,

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and uh, he has some interesting
stories. He actually this is sound of

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off topic, but when it comes
up, I'd like to tell it.

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Back in I think it was the
late seventies, he was, I don't

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know how long you've had your mail
route, but back then they would have

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their mail route for quite some time. He had had it for seven or

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eight years at the time, and
he tended to know who worked it or

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who lived in certain houses. Well, he went to deliver to this certain

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house and he was he saw that
the glass had been broken in basically the

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house was being robbed. When he
shut up, and my dad was a

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pretty physically fit guy. He was
in the military like I was. And

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the guy tried to run away.
My dad tackled him, called the cops,

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and on the the newspaper the next
day that the story was the mailman

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delivers a krim or something like that. It was really cool, But I

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know, rain Shine, sleet Snow, you guys are always out there.

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So God bless you for your pastoring
in the church and for what you do

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bringing the folks there their mail.
Thank you so um you reached out.

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Let me ask you this first,
because you pastor a church, do you

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share this message because I do look
a look at it as biblical cosmology or

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biblical truth, however you would like
to put it. Is this something that

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you touch upon in your services.
No, it's kind of like when you

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talked about your podcast having to do
another podcast. Yes, sir, it's

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kind of one of those things,
kind of key to myself because I don't

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want to scare anybody off. You
know, my primary job as a pastor,

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as a priest the gospel. And
even though I believe the cosmology that

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I do, I don't think a
lot of people are ready for that,

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and I'm not. I'm not willing
to risk running somebody off because of it

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at this point, so that I
have to wait. Yeah, and that

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is something that I haven't even really
spoken too much about, because that is

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a It's a big leap, it
really is, and that is something.

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And again, shout out to the
folks who run the media and Hollywood and

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the TV shows who have an education
of course, who has able to um

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take the first chapter of genesis and
make it um just kind of arbitrary.

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Would you agree with that? Yeah? Yeah, I mean even evolution,

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the whole, the whole nine yards, you know. But that's what we're

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dealing with, indeed, that they
want to trivialize God word. And that's

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when you go down the truth,
when you're in the truth community, when

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you get down certain rabbit holes,
a lot of it is done either to

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mock or to trivialize the word of
God and Jesus Christ. So let's let's

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um talk a little bit. Because
I asked you before you came on the

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program tonight. I was like,
I had asked you if flat Earth was

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kind of the first rabbit hole that
you came upon, and I'm really interested

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to hear how you came upon that
rabbit hole. But you did say that

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you came across nine to eleven before. How did that affect you spiritually,

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as as a person, as an
American When you kind of realize that the

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official story of nine excuse me,
of nine to eleven wasn't as described it

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was, it was shocking because I
just I just assumed that everything I was

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told was correct. I had no
reason, you know, until you have

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a reason not to believe the news. You're just going to believe the news.

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You know, people have busy lize, you know, working passing the

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church, and most people are not
just naturally just going to be looking for

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conspiracy. So I had no reason
not to believe what I was told.

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And so when I saw the video, when I saw the plane, you

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know, I took it for what
they said it was. And it wasn't

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until probably I don't recall the exact
year, but as farllly somewhere around twenty

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sixteen or seventeen that my son mentioned
that nine to eleven was not what it

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appears to be something something to that
effect. But I didn't, you know,

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I didn't think nothing about it,
you know, I didn't believe it.

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And I really don't know how I
found the first video. I mean,

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I think I was bored because I
always like interesting stuff, whether it's

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UFOs or whatever, anything that's strange
or friends. I've always enjoyed watching those

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kind of things, and so I
don't know why I found a video on

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nine to eleven. I don't know
if he referred me to one or what.

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I can't remember exactly what the what
the steps were for me to look

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at it. But I saw the
first video I don't I don't even remember

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which one it was, but it
led me to the one called Architects and

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Engineers for nine eleven Truth. You
ever heard of that one? Yeah?

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And their website is tremendous by the
way. Yeah. So I when I

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saw that, when I saw that
it was over fifteen hundred, I believe

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Architects and Engineers that said the towers
should not have fallen. And I watched

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it and then I, you know, you realize the building seven had fell

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also, which I didn't know.
And I watched every video I could about

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nine to eleven until I was just
convinced that what we had been told was

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not the truth. And so that
was that was shocking. But not only

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was it shocking, it also you
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kind of said to myself, Okay, what does this mean? And it

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means a lot. But one of
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it means the news. It's not
the news because nobody was reporting the truth.

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Nobody, no, you know,
this was this was years after the

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fact, and I hadn't heard any
news reports so on the bombs or while

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the Building seven, and so it
just it just let me know, the

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news is not the news. You
can't trust the news. H It also

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means that our government was willing to
take the lives of innocent people, not

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only the ones that died on nine
to eleven, but all of those in

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Afghanistan and Iraq, the civilians and
the soldiers. So it just meant that

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our government could not be trusted.
So it was just really a shock.

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It was a huge shock, and
especially for me who had invested so much

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time in the military and had lost
friends over there. And then when you

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kind of I don't remember what the
first one was either, there was so

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many of them, and my sniff
test, if you will, has always

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been I think three coincidences and that's
game over. You know, the fact

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that lucky Larry Silverstein just happened to
take over the contracts in June, just

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a couple of months before the fact
that he up the insurance. George Bush's

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brother Marvin was in charge of secure
Com, which was responsible for the security,

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uh you know, at Newark and
Boston. And then you had the

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dancing Israel. I mean, the
list. We could sit here until midnight

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and talk about all the Uh,
the fallacies of nine to eleven. It's

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very hurtful. And at that point, there's there's several things that that want

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into me. Number one was and
this is the question that I think correlates

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with flat earth. I'm wondering,
if you agree with me, is nobody

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would do something like that? Or
why would they do something like that?

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Like? Why why the lie?
That's the question I get emailed all the

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time, why would they lie?
And we address it in a lot of

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these um, in a lot of
these episodes, and you realize one of

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our recent guests, maybe it was
on my other podcast, had mentioned that,

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uh, you know on the back
of our bill, you know,

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a dollar bill, it's uh,
you know, in God we trust?

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But whose God do they really trust? Is it our god? Um?

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When you see things like the truth
about nine to eleven Oklahoma City where ago

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they killed us sitting to us president
in front of us, that really the

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day that really changed the trajectory of
our country. M you know, you

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kind of you question a lot.
Let me ask you this, if if

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the truth about nine eleven, if
you wouldn't have come upon nine to eleven,

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would you been as willing to or
open to accept flat Earth. That's

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a good question. Maybe because like
I said, I've always I love fringe

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topics, ancient history, ancient mysteries, and so just because of the fact

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that I love fringe kind of topics, I might have. But after nine

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eleven, man, anything was possible. After that, agreed, I think

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that allowed me to kind of lower
my guard a little more and accept that,

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well, if something this big was
intentional, we have to start looking

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at everything. Do you what part
of your life when when you came upon

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flutter Earth? Where did that fall
in? Well, you know, once

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once you go down to nine to
eleven rabbit trail, I watched all kinds

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of videos about nine to eleven and
which led me to a lot of the

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conspiracy podcasts. So I started listening
to Coast to Coast. Oh yeah,

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sure, I think that was one
of my first podcasts was Coast to Coast.

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So I started listening to Coast to
Coast and then from Coast to Coast.

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A lot of times the guests would
have a podcast and I would listen

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to their podcast. But I was
listening to Coast to Coast and they had

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the guy with the one hundred proofs. I can't think of his name right

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now? Oh yeah, the two
hundred proofs to Flutter was that Erica.

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Now I wasn't Eric Dubai was the
other one it was. I think it

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was one hundred Prus. It wasn't
Eric Dubay, but he was on Coast

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to Coast and yeah, and so
when I heard him on Coast to Coast

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and he was talking about flat Earth, I mean I had heard about it

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a little bit before Coast to Coast, but I was trying to figure out

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what do they mean by flat Earth? Do they literally mean that Earth is

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flat? I mean, I was
trying to figure out what it. I

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didn't know if it was a coat
or what, because you know, I'm

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thinking it can't be flat Earth,
flat Earth. It's got to be something

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else. So when he came on
Coast to Coast, man, I was

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just listening and and the biggest thing
I was trying to visualize what he meant,

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because in my head, I'm trying
to think, what does he mean

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flat Earth? You know? And
so she finally got him to explain it,

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and once he explained it, I
could see it, but I still

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couldn't fully understand it. So and
at that time, I think this was

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like, uh, like, I
say, like, I don't know twenty

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sixteen or seventeen. I guess I
can't remember. But so, so I

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listened to his YouTube video on one
hundred proofs. I think it was one

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hundred proofs. I'm certainly wasn't an
every debate with somebody else. So I

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listened to that, and once I
listened to it, man, it just

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made logical sense, you know.
So and then I just listened to a

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bunch of everything I can find,
pretty much, and everything just made sense.

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I saw nothing that did not make
sense. And I think creation is

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semple. I don't think creation.
I don't think you get up a PhD

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to understand God's creation. So it
just made logical sense. It made I

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didn't see anything that contradicted the Bible. And to me, even today,

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the biggest thing to me is water. I mean water always is going to

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seek to be level. If it's
not level, it's trying to be level,

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is running to be level. So
when I saw the videos of the

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boats over the horizon, and you
know, pill I put out your camera,

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all your binoculars and they come back, I mean that was pretty much

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it, man. I mean I
still had other questions, but I was

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pretty much convinced. You know,
I don't see a reason why it couldn't

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be flat. You know, I
know water is always level, period,

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That's right. Yeah, there's no
magic trick that that. You know.

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They try to use gravity and other
type of things, but even their most

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basic math. And when you ask
some Bunton and I listen, I always

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say I was in that boat once
too. You could have tracked me down

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ten years ago and asked me how
far the sun was the way. I

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didn't know it was ninety three million
miles. I didn't know the distance from

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the Moon and all the other things
that you tend to learn when you become

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a flatter Earth or because if you
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of weeks were quite a trip,
and you were just lost and you just

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wanted to consume more information because you
know there's other rabbit holes that kind of

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like wow, but then there's flat
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it really changed the game. How
about yourself? Yeah, that was it,

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man. I mean I watched so
many videos, and this was back

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when you could find good videos.
I watched so many videos and I'm still

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convinced that it's not a ball in
space. No, I just don't believe

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that now, men, you know, like I say, like I said,

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when I first now, when I
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after nine eleven, I still didn't
believe the moon landings were fake because my

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daughter had mentioned something about the moon
landings being Now I was like, nah,

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you know, I just I just
didn't pay attention to it. I

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mean, I just did not believe
that could be true. Sure, But

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then once you started, then,
once I started doing a flat Earth trail,

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then I saw videos about the moon
landings, and you know, the

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more you look at it, I
mean, it's not you're not being brain

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washed. You're really just seeing stuff
for what it is. I mean the

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obvious fact. I mean, even
like the Bible, what the bibble says,

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the moon is a light. Yes, and when you look at the

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moon you can tell nobody can land
on that. No, it's literally a

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light. And so from a Biblical
perspective, it said God made two lights,

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one for the day and one for
the night. He didn't say he

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made one super bright light that will
reflect off a dusty ball in the evening.

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He specifically said it was two lights. It's literally a light. So

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and the more you look at it, you realize nobody can land on this.

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And even even when you look at
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the shadows at different angles and you
know, everything, man, you know,

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it just you just realized and in
fact, we haven't been back,

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you know, which is impossible if
we really went, there's no reason why

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we wouldn't go back, you know. So, I mean, it's just

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it's just too much evidence against us
ever going too much. Indeed, let

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me ask it, since we're with
NASA, let me ask you a couple

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of questions there you had mentioned and
we all had the same type of reaction.

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After we realized the truth about nine
to eleven, you know, we

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start realizing the tremendous you know,
just the absolute horror that we're brought upon,

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you know, people around the world
because of this false flag. And

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that's what it was. A false
flag. Is there are people who die.

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It's not a hoax. There were
people, a lot people who died,

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but they blamed it on someone else. And um, when you declare

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an enemy, like you know,
it was the war on terror. It

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wasn't the war on X, this
person or this country. It was the

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war on terror so that they could
have an open check book and endless enemies

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to attack. Everything was off limits, and you know, you and I

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talked about how that, you know, how we felt about that. Now,

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did you once you realize that the
earth is flat, there's a firmament

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over us, there's no landing on
the moon, did you like start researching

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like how much tax money that NASSA
receives and how you felt about that?

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Nom that To me, that wasn't
something that I mean, it is a

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concern, but it wasn't one of
my biggest concerns. It was more like,

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why are they doing it? You
know, what's the reason? That's

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and same thing with nine eleven.
I mean, I won't I probably you

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know, we'll probably never know the
reason. All you can do is speculate

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why. But I don't believe the
primary reason was money. I don't.

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I don't believe the primary reason was, you know, to take over another

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nation. I believe it's something spiritual, you know, Yeah, you know,

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I believe they are led about darkness
because if you could take that minute,

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lives man, the lives of innocent
people. I don't think it's just

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about money. To me, the
money and it's just a fringe benefit.

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But I don't think that was the
primary reason. To me, it was

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almost like all of those lives to
me, were almost like a sacrifice.

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So dealing with some very very very
evil people. Man, So yeah,

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that was I always said that was
a ritual event. Yeah, yeah,

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yeah, yeah, because you know, just for money, I don't think

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so. I mean those those to
me, those are the kind of fringe

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benefitically, just go along with it, you know, you hook up your

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buddies and that make weapons. But
to me, it was almost like an

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offering, you know, and I
think the people at the very top some

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very dark powers of darkness, you
know, controlling people. Yeah. I

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couldn't agree more. Um as far
as uh again, you realize that the

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Earth is flat firmament and there's no
such real things out of space as is

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depicted in the movies and television.
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to think about, just kind of
kick around in my little mind. That's

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how it works. Is what kind
of burden do you think was on those

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three guys? And of course we're
talking about Neil Armstrong and buzz Aldren and

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those guys. Yeah, I mean
that that conference that they had like,

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uh, Dave, why I said
they looked like the dog had died.

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Man. I mean that tells you
right there. Yeah, that confidence that

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they had, uh you know that
news news carference and when they were all

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three lined up, Yeah, they
looked just, yeah, mortified. Instead

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of looking instill, of looking like
they won the Super Bowl, they're looking

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like they looked just like somebody died. Yeah. And that, Yeah,

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they got a burden on the man. And so I don't know the ends

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in the outs of to what extent
they knew and how far they knew in

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advance, but uh, you know
it's crazy, Yeah, crazy. That's

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the eavy burden to kind of care
that around, knowing that you did not

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go, but you gotta pretend that
you did. Right. It's it's not

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like, uh, you know,
you invented some cool pattern, but you

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really didn't invent it, right.
You know. It's not like you invented

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the Nintendo sixty four the PlayStation three, right, and you took credit for

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it even though it wasn't really your
inventions. You just took credit for it.

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You're talking about, you know,
according to the history books, the

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greatest accomplishment and mankind. I mean
this isn't a small potatoes we're talking about

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here. I mean, these people
names are etched in the history, right

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yeah. Yeah, that's that's massive, man. And so when you when

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you just think about the things that
we know about, because there's so much

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we don't know that they've done.
But if you just think about nine to

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eleven, the moon Land in Oklahoma
City, and I was listening to somebody,

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you know, during the whole time
when they were talking about ISIS and

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the Taliban and right out the nine
to eleven and some of the bombings that

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took place in Europe were the exact
same thing. They were, you know,

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not what they seem to be.
You remember those bombings on the train

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in Europe I think it was England, Yeah, the July seventh two bombing,

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right yeah, yeah, a lot
of those were the same thing.

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So when you just think about how
much deception has gone on, man,

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I mean you you literally don't know
what is real and what's fake. Yeah,

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I mean, I mean, and
that's you know, like I said,

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that's just what we know. What
about the things we don't know,

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it's just i mean, just never
ends. Yeah, And that's there's something

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that always disheartened me because growing up, I always wanted to be a journalist,

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even though I knew back then I
just was a young guy, didn't

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go to college. I know,
it was kind of out of the realm

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of possibility that at the time.
But I always admired journalists, and I

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always imagine them as being champions for
the truth and like I said before,

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being the the unofficial fourth arm of
the government, keeping everybody in check.

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And and and now it's just weaponized. It's weaponized against us, and we

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pay. You have people who pay
for cable and they pay for their own

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brainwashing. Yeah, man, I
mean right right before I heard about,

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you know, found out about nine
to eleven, I was listening to you

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know, I didn't I never knew
about I guess it wasn't like an awakening.

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I guess it was like a small
awakening in a way, like you

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know, just like everybody else.
I just always listened to seeing n And

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I had a job where I could
a vehicle where I had a radio in

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it, so while I was working, I could listen to the radio.

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So I started listening to Rush Lumball
because you know, he talked radio,

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you know, his own I would
listen to him. I didn't know who

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he was. I didn't know anything
about Russia, Lumball, nothing, you

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know. I was just totally seeing
in, you know, just because you

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know, it's it's it's the biggest
news networks. So I just watched it,

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you know, twenty four seven.
So I stopped listening to Rush and

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I was like, wow, you
know, did and and being a Christian,

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a lot of the things he said
I agree with. And to me

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that was like an awakening. And
I was like wow, man, you

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know, and I was all into
Republican party, and and I just at

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that time, I felt like,
man, if everybody could just listen to

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this other side man in that and
to me, it was just like if

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everybody could, especially believers, if
we could just listen to this, To

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me, it was just kind of
eye opening. I had no idea that

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there was an alternative news source,
but after nine eleven, man, I

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just realized, it's all the same
things. It doesn't matter Democrat, Republican,

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n N Fox. Because if if
we had real journalists, remember you

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know, journalists were at ground zero
as as it was happening. They heard

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the bombs, you remember, the
news uh reels, and they they literally

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heard the bombs, and so if
they were real journalists, why why why

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was no one asking the question about
where the bombs coming from? Yeah,

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all those all those folks in the
basement who are trying to get out,

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they're on record. You're hard pressed
to find those videos anymore. Back even

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I would say as late as twenty
sixteen, maybe twenty seventeen, those you

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could still find those videos. But
there was a massive, just a huge

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censorship anything that challenged the official narrative
of you know, nine to eleven,

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that particular school in Connecticut, so
on and so forth. Then of course

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we saw tyranny at a whole nother
level when when COVID came about. If

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I've mentioned anything about the vaccine on
my YouTube channel, I got wiped out.

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So that's why I don't even bother
with that anymore. Yeah, yeah,

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Man, we had real news,
then what happened on nine eleven would

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have been would have been the biggest
news story in American history if we had

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real news, absolutely, But instead
of the bombs, instead of questions and

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stead of real investigative research, what
the top story was weapons of mass destruction.

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That's what everybody talked about, sir, not about the bombs, not

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about how did the you know,
how did these guys pull this off?

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Not about why no planes were shot
down like they should have been shotting now,

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why not about the why did the
Pentagon didn't have cameras that showed the

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plane hit the building? The top
story was weapons of mass destruction, foxing

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in same thing. So that told
me it's all the same, it does

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matter. And how many times on
those newscasts did you ever hear the words

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building seven uttered? Yeah, that's
it, that's it, that's it.

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Yeah. I didn't even know about
building seven man until I and when I

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watched that video Architects and Engineers for
nine eleven two. When I saw that

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and they and they talked about building, I was like, what buildings up?

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I was like, what, that's
what I'm saying, man, How

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is that not news? No plane
even hit the buildings? So it's crazy,

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man. So they just told me, Man, it doesn't matter,

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fox seeing in it's all the same
thing. It does not matter. So

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I just gave up on news altogether. Yeah. And and I talk about

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trying to find that fine line between
being uninformed and misinformed, I think in

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this day and age, it's more
harmful to be, uh, you know,

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misinformed than uninformed, at least if
I don't know what's going on,

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I can't you know, catch their
bait and get pulled into their next you

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know thing, their next mass shooting. And you know, they they like

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to keep us fighting amongst each other
and uh just to take the magnifying glass

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off of the bankers. They continue
to print money and and uh more power,

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eliminate the middle class, and they
just want a world of serfdom,

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and you know, to keep us
miserable and as far away from God as

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possible. I see, it's it's
crazy, man. And so we don't

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know what's coming down the pike next. But I just don't don't believe what

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you hear on the news. I
know that no fact, that is for

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sure. Yeah. I could talk
about nine to eleven all day. That

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is just you know, you're talking
about the journalist. And it was funny.

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There was a guy, I don't
know what happened to him. He

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kind of disappeared. He tracked down
member good old Donald Rumsfeld, who on

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September tenth set oh, by the
way, we can't find two point three

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trillion dollars. Yeah, and the
next day that the accounting part of the

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Pentagon is what got hit. But
yeah, young man tracked him down then

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he was trying to get him to
talk about Building seven and Donald Rumsfeld literally

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said, what building seven? What's
what's that? And he tried to play

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it off like he didn't even know
what building seven one. He was trying

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to say, when did they start
making buildings that came already set up with

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C four charges ready to go just
in case a building needs to be pulled,

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because it takes days, weeks and
months to to set up building up

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for demolition. Yeah, yeah,
yeah, I mean it's amazing that that

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happened. In the lives that were
lost. And once you once you you

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know, calculate the lives, that
tells you, man, they don't do

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anything, so anything. When I
heard about flat Earth, I wasn't shot.

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I was not surprised, man,
Yeah, and not surprised. While

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you know, the globe theory,
you know, doesn't take lives like World

412
00:32:27.920 --> 00:32:32.200
Wars and nine to eleven in Oklahoma
City does. It takes souls and many

413
00:32:32.240 --> 00:32:36.960
more souls. It can lead to
many more souls. And I get Bernard,

414
00:32:37.000 --> 00:32:42.559
I get so many emails from people
who um, that the flat Earth

415
00:32:42.599 --> 00:32:47.960
has led people to God. M
that's good. Absolutely, you know.

416
00:32:49.039 --> 00:32:53.319
They say they've realized that they're not
here by accident, that this was created

417
00:32:54.000 --> 00:32:58.839
right, so it had to be
created by someone, so obviously it was

418
00:32:58.920 --> 00:33:00.319
God. And they read, you
know, they pick up the Bible and

419
00:33:00.359 --> 00:33:05.880
by the time they've done the first
chapter of Genesis, they're they're overwhelmed and

420
00:33:05.960 --> 00:33:10.799
that they understand that this place was
created just for us. Yeah. One

421
00:33:10.839 --> 00:33:15.319
thing about it, I've never ever
ever believed in evolution. I've never believed

422
00:33:15.359 --> 00:33:19.839
that. To me, that just
did not make sense. The Big Bank

423
00:33:19.880 --> 00:33:23.559
theory either, that's just yeah,
I mean, that just never made sense.

424
00:33:23.599 --> 00:33:29.400
Even though I love science. I
love I love science, I love

425
00:33:29.440 --> 00:33:32.880
hearing about you know, I was
all into this um trillions of miles.

426
00:33:32.920 --> 00:33:37.880
I got a little I got a
bunch of It's not a bunch, but

427
00:33:37.920 --> 00:33:44.400
I got I got some videos that
I'm gonna send to you awesome and uh

428
00:33:44.480 --> 00:33:46.839
yeah, one of them I can't
I can't quote it word for word,

429
00:33:47.599 --> 00:33:53.160
but let me see, can I
find it real quick? Yeah? It's

430
00:33:53.400 --> 00:34:08.079
um it just shows that one of
them is a less See. I'm gonna

431
00:34:08.079 --> 00:34:09.800
just read you the title of it. I'm gonna send it to you,

432
00:34:09.880 --> 00:34:17.920
lady. It says mysterious cosmic heartbeat
detected billions of light years from Earth.

433
00:34:19.119 --> 00:34:27.199
Wow. So when you read the
art, they talk about how they could

434
00:34:27.199 --> 00:34:31.440
hear this heartbeat billions of light not
not not just one light here, billions

435
00:34:31.440 --> 00:34:37.480
of light years. They could hear
this sound billions of light years. I

436
00:34:37.480 --> 00:34:39.880
mean when I used to you know, back in the day, when I

437
00:34:39.920 --> 00:34:44.880
used to hear stuff like that,
I would just be a made many just

438
00:34:45.280 --> 00:34:47.039
how wow. Man, these guys
are smart, you know. I was

439
00:34:47.079 --> 00:34:52.559
just of course, I just believed
it. But now I know there's no

440
00:34:52.639 --> 00:34:59.320
way possible for them to hear something
that's just like me hearing a rat in

441
00:34:59.360 --> 00:35:04.760
your basement in New York from Georgia
something exactly. It's it's just it's crazy

442
00:35:04.800 --> 00:35:07.760
when you think about it, that
that I actually believe that they could do

443
00:35:08.159 --> 00:35:12.679
what they said they did. But
now just see, it's just crazy,

444
00:35:12.679 --> 00:35:17.360
man. It's just a much of
lies. God. I never I never

445
00:35:17.400 --> 00:35:24.800
believed in evolution ever because it was
just impossible. H Have you ever heard

446
00:35:24.840 --> 00:35:34.800
of the irreducible complexity? I'm not
sure that rings about. It's a Christian

447
00:35:34.800 --> 00:35:40.440
apologist came up with the term to
describe. He was basically talking about a

448
00:35:40.480 --> 00:35:45.559
sell and how a sell just like
imagine a mouse trap. You remember the

449
00:35:45.719 --> 00:35:52.000
wooden mouse traps with the spring old
school, and so his point was,

450
00:35:52.119 --> 00:35:57.239
just like, just like that mouse
trap, it has to have have every

451
00:35:57.320 --> 00:36:00.599
part and that's pretty simple. A
mousetrap of simples. You got the wooden

452
00:36:00.639 --> 00:36:05.559
plank, you got the uh,
the spring, you got the lever that

453
00:36:05.920 --> 00:36:07.920
kills the rat, and that you
get, you know, you get you

454
00:36:07.920 --> 00:36:13.199
know, five or six pieces.
Sure, but his point is that it

455
00:36:13.280 --> 00:36:17.320
is irreducibly complex. I mean,
you got to have every piece in order

456
00:36:17.320 --> 00:36:21.440
for it to work. If one
piece is missing, is not gonna work.

457
00:36:22.400 --> 00:36:24.880
And so he was comparing that to
the human cell. Now, the

458
00:36:24.920 --> 00:36:30.239
human cell is much more complex,
but his point was a cell cannot evolve.

459
00:36:31.280 --> 00:36:37.480
Every piece has to be in place, So it's impossible for sale to

460
00:36:37.519 --> 00:36:45.400
involve. And NFL is supposedly simple, yet it cannot evolve. And so

461
00:36:45.440 --> 00:36:50.199
how much more the rest of creation, you know, And so it's it's

462
00:36:50.199 --> 00:36:54.440
almost like what they say is just
nonsense. It's just nonsense. Man.

463
00:36:55.360 --> 00:37:00.519
Indeed, I'm saying that this argument
was already I guess it came around in

464
00:37:00.559 --> 00:37:05.360
the sixties, but it really took
off in nineteen ninety three by this guy

465
00:37:05.360 --> 00:37:09.639
whose name is Michael I guess it's
pronounced bay hey Bhe who was actually just

466
00:37:09.800 --> 00:37:15.039
up north to me here at Lehigh
University. He presented a variation of the

467
00:37:15.079 --> 00:37:20.159
same argument. Interesting, I'll have
to go down this check this out tonight.

468
00:37:22.199 --> 00:37:25.320
Yeah, and so I never believed
in evolution, but I was all

469
00:37:25.360 --> 00:37:31.480
into space and sure, you know, light years and now I never believed

470
00:37:31.480 --> 00:37:35.760
in aliens per se. I believe, I believe something was going on,

471
00:37:37.360 --> 00:37:39.880
but I just couldn't believe that God
would create other beings and not tell us

472
00:37:39.880 --> 00:37:43.360
about it. You know what I'm
saying. You know that there could be

473
00:37:44.119 --> 00:37:49.320
creatures on another planet, and those
creatures could visit this planet and disturb us

474
00:37:49.320 --> 00:37:52.400
on this planet, and somehow God
forgot to mention that. I just never

475
00:37:52.599 --> 00:38:01.719
could get my mind around that being
possible. So now everything begins to make

476
00:38:01.760 --> 00:38:06.920
a lot more sense, you know. Yeah, once once you realize flat

477
00:38:06.960 --> 00:38:09.800
Earth, even even for you know
folks who are on the fence, that

478
00:38:09.800 --> 00:38:14.599
that eliminates that right away, and
you realize that was just another part of

479
00:38:14.639 --> 00:38:20.400
the deception. Yeah, it's uh, and you know, I mean just

480
00:38:20.400 --> 00:38:25.159
just to think about how they pulled
it off. And every time I think

481
00:38:25.199 --> 00:38:31.320
about it, I believe that darkness
is at the top dark beings because when

482
00:38:31.360 --> 00:38:35.639
you think about man, man is
not capable, in my opinion, of

483
00:38:36.400 --> 00:38:40.079
having a plan, because this is
a long term plan. You know,

484
00:38:40.599 --> 00:38:47.119
they started out with evolution, and
to me, it's it's it's a plan

485
00:38:47.199 --> 00:38:51.639
that's going to take hundreds of years
to come to pass. You know,

486
00:38:51.679 --> 00:38:54.039
you start out with evolution, and
then you bring in the aliens, and

487
00:38:54.079 --> 00:38:59.719
then you bring all everything kind of
kind of comes together. But it's a

488
00:38:59.800 --> 00:39:02.159
long term plan. Don't I don't
see men coming up with this plan.

489
00:39:04.039 --> 00:39:07.480
Uh. It's just like your child
or when we were kids. You know,

490
00:39:07.480 --> 00:39:10.920
when I remember when I was you
know, fifth and sixth grade,

491
00:39:12.000 --> 00:39:15.760
you know, real young summer breaks
seemed like an eternity. You know,

492
00:39:15.760 --> 00:39:19.159
when you're out for the summer just
seemed like you were out for them.

493
00:39:19.239 --> 00:39:22.519
It almost seemed like a you know, months and months and months. Absolutely

494
00:39:22.599 --> 00:39:25.639
because you're a child, you know
what I'm saying. An hours seemed like

495
00:39:25.719 --> 00:39:30.159
an eternity back in the day when
you were a little That's what I'm saying.

496
00:39:30.159 --> 00:39:34.559
And so even as adults, I
mean as men. Yeah, we

497
00:39:34.599 --> 00:39:37.239
can have a plan for twenty five
years, a long term plan, but

498
00:39:37.360 --> 00:39:43.039
this plan is over hundreds of years. And to me, you know,

499
00:39:43.119 --> 00:39:45.719
just when the Bible talks about to
the Lord to day is like a thousand

500
00:39:45.760 --> 00:39:49.440
years, and thousand years like a
day. I think that applies to the

501
00:39:49.679 --> 00:39:52.719
spiritual beings also, And so for
them to come up with a thousand year

502
00:39:52.800 --> 00:39:58.519
plans, no problem, because they're
going to live to see it. We

503
00:39:58.559 --> 00:40:01.519
won't live to see it. So
it's like all of this stuff comes from

504
00:40:01.519 --> 00:40:07.760
the very top and his dark beings
in control of this, all of this

505
00:40:07.880 --> 00:40:14.000
deception, and then the men just
carried out. Yeah, that's that's a

506
00:40:14.079 --> 00:40:19.519
great point. You know, people
talk about seventeen seventy six and most people

507
00:40:19.599 --> 00:40:22.679
go to July fourth. Well,
May first was very much as important,

508
00:40:22.679 --> 00:40:27.159
if not more important. I mean
George Washington, if you go to DC

509
00:40:27.320 --> 00:40:30.519
and look at his memorial, he
was every bit, if not more proud

510
00:40:30.559 --> 00:40:35.159
of being a Mason, a Freemason, as he was as being the President

511
00:40:35.239 --> 00:40:40.320
of the United States. Yeah.
Yeah, that's the world we live in.

512
00:40:40.440 --> 00:40:44.679
Man. It's crazy, indeed,
And those people are a part of

513
00:40:44.679 --> 00:40:50.880
the plan. And again it's funny. It's summertime. Memorial Day's coming,

514
00:40:50.920 --> 00:40:55.000
which means all the big blockbuster movies
are coming. And I was mentioning earlier

515
00:40:55.039 --> 00:41:00.239
about how you know, people pay
for their cable to be brainwashed, and

516
00:41:00.239 --> 00:41:04.519
they do the same thing in the
summertime with these movies. You know,

517
00:41:04.559 --> 00:41:08.199
they all have nefarious meanings behind them. You look at even you know,

518
00:41:08.480 --> 00:41:14.880
Night was at seventy eight with the
original Superman. You know, they all

519
00:41:14.880 --> 00:41:20.840
the names have meanings to them,
like Wonder Woman, the WWU. Clark

520
00:41:20.920 --> 00:41:25.400
can't look at that numerology. It's
just a lot of evil with everything.

521
00:41:27.159 --> 00:41:30.239
If you remember the story God came
to Earth. Sorry, back up,

522
00:41:30.840 --> 00:41:36.519
Satan tempted Jesus for what forty days
and forty nights? Correct, for forty

523
00:41:36.559 --> 00:41:43.079
days he tempted Jesus, and Jesus
never said that this world is not yours

524
00:41:43.119 --> 00:41:47.480
to give away, right, he
never said that. So if he can

525
00:41:47.519 --> 00:41:52.000
tempt Jesus for over a month,
what do you think he's doing to us

526
00:41:52.039 --> 00:42:00.800
on a daily basis? Yeah,
yep. And that's why that's why I

527
00:42:00.840 --> 00:42:08.840
don't I try to be gracious to
people that don't see as I see,

528
00:42:09.760 --> 00:42:15.199
because you know, first of all, I don't know everything myself. It's

529
00:42:15.239 --> 00:42:19.519
a lot of things I believe,
but I don't know certain things. You

530
00:42:19.519 --> 00:42:22.000
know, I don't know why they're
doing what they're doing. I mean,

531
00:42:22.039 --> 00:42:25.840
I got an idea. I'm sure
it's all involved with the end and darkness,

532
00:42:28.119 --> 00:42:30.639
but I don't know to find details
of why, exactly why they pulled

533
00:42:30.639 --> 00:42:37.159
off nine eleven or how or who
came up with the idea of deceiving us

534
00:42:37.199 --> 00:42:43.880
about where we live. So i'm
i'm I like to be gracious to people

535
00:42:43.920 --> 00:42:47.199
that don't see what I see,
because at one time I didn't see it

536
00:42:47.239 --> 00:42:55.480
myself. So how can I judge
somebody and call them names for not believing

537
00:42:55.599 --> 00:43:00.199
certain things and not seeing certain things
because at one time I did, I

538
00:43:00.239 --> 00:43:01.360
didn't believe it. I remember,
I remember, you know, going back

539
00:43:01.360 --> 00:43:05.559
to nine to eleven. It was
it was either the day of nine eleven

540
00:43:05.719 --> 00:43:13.119
or right after a day or two
after. They were showing uh, some

541
00:43:13.239 --> 00:43:19.960
Arabs Muslims, and I don't know
what Muslim country it was, but one

542
00:43:20.000 --> 00:43:23.760
of them said Americans did it.
Americans did it, And it was like

543
00:43:23.800 --> 00:43:27.559
the day of, like the next
day, within one or two days.

544
00:43:28.519 --> 00:43:31.800
And my first thought was, man, how dumb is that how I'm dumb?

545
00:43:31.920 --> 00:43:35.840
I mean, this guy was saying
Americans did it, Americans did it?

546
00:43:36.639 --> 00:43:37.639
And I was like, man,
how dumb is this dude? Man?

547
00:43:38.639 --> 00:43:44.719
And come to find out he right, was right, we are the

548
00:43:45.000 --> 00:43:49.320
terrorists. Yeah, yeah, that
was I mean. So so that's what

549
00:43:49.320 --> 00:43:52.840
I'm saying, Man, we can't. I try to be gracious to people

550
00:43:52.840 --> 00:43:57.519
that don't see as I see who's
still something to come on the news?

551
00:43:57.519 --> 00:44:00.360
You know, I tried to be
gracious man, because that was me not

552
00:44:00.440 --> 00:44:05.599
too long ago. So you know, it's very sobering, like you were

553
00:44:05.639 --> 00:44:07.599
saying, when when you find out, when you realize, because when you're

554
00:44:07.599 --> 00:44:09.760
growing up, like I don't know
how old you were, but growing up,

555
00:44:09.800 --> 00:44:15.159
I remember very just like it was
yesterday, the Iran terrorist situation.

556
00:44:15.960 --> 00:44:19.840
And then you find out that Reagan
and those guys had a deal in place

557
00:44:19.920 --> 00:44:23.280
to hold the hostages, and literally
an hour after he was sworn in,

558
00:44:23.320 --> 00:44:29.039
the hostages were released. And you
realize that people, to these people at

559
00:44:29.079 --> 00:44:31.079
the very top of the food chain, they're just a number, they're a

560
00:44:31.159 --> 00:44:37.159
tool, they're pawns, and they
really don't care about you. Yeah,

561
00:44:37.159 --> 00:44:39.039
that's that's what I'm saying. I
mean, these are the things that we

562
00:44:39.119 --> 00:44:44.840
have come to realize. But what
about the things we still know? That

563
00:44:44.840 --> 00:44:49.679
that's the big thing. It's just
really amazing and kind of scary when you

564
00:44:49.719 --> 00:44:52.880
think about it. But we know
who ends in the end, so it's

565
00:44:52.920 --> 00:44:55.639
all good. That's right. It's
I think it's a big it's a matter

566
00:44:55.679 --> 00:44:59.480
of waking up as many people as
we can. But like you said,

567
00:44:59.519 --> 00:45:04.159
being great, it'sious about it.
You know, we're blessed to have this

568
00:45:04.320 --> 00:45:07.119
knowledge. But like you said,
at one point, um, you know,

569
00:45:07.280 --> 00:45:10.719
I there was a point in my
life where I knew more about baseball

570
00:45:10.800 --> 00:45:15.320
statistics than you know, the Bill
of Rights. That's that's a fact.

571
00:45:15.119 --> 00:45:20.639
Part of it is just becoming older
and wiser and things happen for a reason

572
00:45:20.679 --> 00:45:23.000
in your life and you get wisdom. You can you can get smarts,

573
00:45:23.039 --> 00:45:29.360
they're going to college, but wisdom
can only be brought through learning and life

574
00:45:29.440 --> 00:45:38.159
lessons. Yeah, and uh,
the whole idea of ancient people being ignorant

575
00:45:38.719 --> 00:45:43.480
is false. You know when you
look at the ancient cosmology that I know

576
00:45:43.519 --> 00:45:50.159
you've mentioned on the show, and
how they view the world and the cosmos

577
00:45:50.280 --> 00:45:53.679
and high lines of what the Bible
say is I mean, the Earth is

578
00:45:53.760 --> 00:45:58.480
on pillars. We don't know exactly
what that means, but we know it's

579
00:45:58.480 --> 00:46:05.559
not moving. Uh, we know
that we are the center of the universe.

580
00:46:05.599 --> 00:46:12.679
There is no billions of light years
as scientists call it. The moon

581
00:46:12.960 --> 00:46:16.960
and I had a picture, a
photo that I took it. I'm sure

582
00:46:16.960 --> 00:46:21.599
you're seeing a bunch of them anyway, but when I took it, it

583
00:46:21.679 --> 00:46:23.679
didn't come out as clear as I
wanted to, so I didn't I didn't

584
00:46:23.719 --> 00:46:30.800
save it. But it was basically
the moon surrounded it was the sky looked

585
00:46:30.840 --> 00:46:36.719
weird, but it was the moon, the light of the moon illuminating the

586
00:46:36.719 --> 00:46:42.079
clouds that was directly around it.
So basically the moon was in the clouds

587
00:46:42.559 --> 00:46:45.800
exactly. It's not two hundred and
forty thousand miles away. Yeah, And

588
00:46:45.840 --> 00:46:51.280
there's no way it could have did
what it did illuminating those clouds if it

589
00:46:51.440 --> 00:46:55.119
was a quarter of a million miles
away, there's there's there's just no way

590
00:46:55.159 --> 00:47:00.599
it could happen. And so now
you see things like that, you know

591
00:47:00.159 --> 00:47:04.119
that you know you've seen before,
but you never really paid attention to it.

592
00:47:05.159 --> 00:47:07.360
Absolutely. That's the other thing.
You start to appreciate things around you

593
00:47:07.920 --> 00:47:13.079
when you took it for granted.
That's you know, standing out staring at

594
00:47:13.119 --> 00:47:16.159
them at the moon. I went
down to the beach. I'm on the

595
00:47:16.199 --> 00:47:20.719
east coast of Delaware. We went
down to Ocean City, Maryland. Just

596
00:47:20.719 --> 00:47:23.920
stood on the beach and looked at
the flat horizon and then you're just smiling.

597
00:47:24.079 --> 00:47:30.719
It confirms, uh, you know, it confirms your suspicions. Yeah,

598
00:47:30.800 --> 00:47:32.880
and I yeah. And what I
was saying was, you know,

599
00:47:34.000 --> 00:47:40.079
the ancients knew these things, and
they were not eagnorant. You know,

600
00:47:40.800 --> 00:47:45.559
we are the ones who are becoming
ignorant. That's such as we believe everything

601
00:47:45.679 --> 00:47:49.480
that's signed to say, as if
say a God, that's right. We

602
00:47:49.480 --> 00:47:53.440
don't even believe our own eyes exactly. We could see something and not even

603
00:47:53.519 --> 00:47:58.639
see it because we've been being convinced
it's not true. I mean, when

604
00:47:58.639 --> 00:48:00.719
you look at the globe, I
mean when you look at the globe,

605
00:48:00.760 --> 00:48:07.280
you know the globes that NASA's fake
images from space of the Earth, or

606
00:48:07.280 --> 00:48:08.880
you can look at a globe,
when you look at the globe, man

607
00:48:08.920 --> 00:48:15.559
and just think about, Okay,
how is this water not flowing? How

608
00:48:15.599 --> 00:48:22.400
how how can oceans not flow even
even gravity? You know, so if

609
00:48:22.440 --> 00:48:27.840
you say gravity. Gravity doesn't you
know? And I wouldn't even argue with

610
00:48:27.960 --> 00:48:32.280
anybody about gravity. I said,
okay, but why we know that rivers

611
00:48:32.280 --> 00:48:38.800
flow, water always flows, waterfalls, rivers, streams, water flows.

612
00:48:38.840 --> 00:48:45.360
Gravity does not present water from flowing. Correct. So even if you even

613
00:48:45.400 --> 00:48:47.840
if you if you, even if
you give them gravity, gravity does not

614
00:48:49.000 --> 00:48:53.119
prevent any water from flowing on planet
Earth. The Amazon, rivers flow,

615
00:48:53.320 --> 00:48:58.440
streams, flow, waterfalls, so
gravity does not stop water from flowing.

616
00:48:58.519 --> 00:49:07.079
So how how is it that gravity
is stopping the oceans from overflowing? Spout

617
00:49:07.159 --> 00:49:09.880
on? And I asked people all
the time, I said, well,

618
00:49:09.920 --> 00:49:14.039
how it far on a ball?
How do these rivers like the Amazon,

619
00:49:14.079 --> 00:49:17.440
how do they flow north? Especially
using there if And here's the other thing

620
00:49:17.760 --> 00:49:23.000
that people don't take into consideration.
Not only is the Amazon flowing north,

621
00:49:23.079 --> 00:49:27.840
but it is flowing north on a
curve. So think about how much more

622
00:49:27.920 --> 00:49:31.760
it would take for that to happen. Yeah, yeah, it does not

623
00:49:31.840 --> 00:49:36.159
make sense when you start thinking about
it. Man, when you start thinking

624
00:49:36.159 --> 00:49:39.840
about even when they say gravity,
that still doesn't answer the question. Because

625
00:49:40.519 --> 00:49:45.679
water still flows on this Earth on
a daily basis. The oceans, the

626
00:49:46.400 --> 00:49:50.280
tides go in and out, the
waves crash against the sea. Water is

627
00:49:50.320 --> 00:49:53.360
flowing. Yeah, so why isn't
it flowing over its banks if we are

628
00:49:53.360 --> 00:49:55.960
on a ball? I mean,
that still does not answer the question.

629
00:49:58.440 --> 00:50:00.079
It does not make sense, man, and in common sense. I mean

630
00:50:00.119 --> 00:50:06.039
if you just use your brain and
look at what your eyes are telling you.

631
00:50:06.199 --> 00:50:13.119
Yeah, something right. Gravity.
We have a big old apple tree

632
00:50:13.119 --> 00:50:16.920
in our front yard and in the
summertime, every time an apple hits the

633
00:50:16.960 --> 00:50:23.239
ground of falls, we say gravity. It's just silly. Yeah. And

634
00:50:23.320 --> 00:50:27.760
you know, look at Tesla La, Nicholas Tesla. He warned us that

635
00:50:28.320 --> 00:50:31.480
he saw, and this is back
in the early nineteen hundreds, he saw

636
00:50:31.559 --> 00:50:37.920
science was being hijacked and they were
just um, I guess, reverse engineering

637
00:50:37.960 --> 00:50:44.039
math problems to get numbers to fit
their narrative. Yeah. They put a

638
00:50:44.079 --> 00:50:46.239
math froble on on a chalk boarder, a math problem that steals up the

639
00:50:46.400 --> 00:50:52.280
entire chalkboard. Yeah, but you
know, is this a man froblem?

640
00:50:52.280 --> 00:50:54.480
Man? I still don't prove anything
they can make up. You can make

641
00:50:54.519 --> 00:51:00.440
a math problem about something that don't
even exist. You know, A math

642
00:51:00.480 --> 00:51:04.079
from is just a math from.
It doesn't prove anything. It doesn't prove

643
00:51:04.159 --> 00:51:07.719
or disprove anything. No, and
then that goes back to what you said

644
00:51:07.760 --> 00:51:12.679
earlier. It's it's a shame that
people are more willing to listen to someone

645
00:51:12.719 --> 00:51:15.480
on the news versus what they see
right in front of their eyes, what

646
00:51:15.519 --> 00:51:16.519
they can smell, what they can
taste, what they can hear, what

647
00:51:16.559 --> 00:51:22.320
they can feel. Yeah, scientism
is real, man, And I've seen

648
00:51:23.639 --> 00:51:25.840
because I listened to a whole I
listen. I listen to a lot of

649
00:51:25.880 --> 00:51:31.960
podcasts, and I listened to like
archaeologists, for example, that you know,

650
00:51:32.159 --> 00:51:36.199
have been shown just because they won't
go with the flow. You know,

651
00:51:37.760 --> 00:51:40.639
your your band, your black ball. You're not giving ten year college

652
00:51:40.800 --> 00:51:45.519
colleges. If you don't agree with
the status quo, man, that's just

653
00:51:45.599 --> 00:51:50.920
it. And so it's it's every
discipline of science. You can name,

654
00:51:51.119 --> 00:51:55.360
every every discipline of academics, you
can name. They gotta they gotta,

655
00:51:59.119 --> 00:52:00.519
you know, the status quo,
and if you don't get with the program,

656
00:52:00.519 --> 00:52:05.599
man, that's it. Yeah.
I can tell you personally. I

657
00:52:05.639 --> 00:52:08.280
know doctor Jim Fetzer personally. I
haven't talked to him on a while,

658
00:52:08.280 --> 00:52:14.000
but we we've talked many times,
both on the radio and offline. He

659
00:52:14.039 --> 00:52:19.840
wrote a book about what he thought. He put hundreds of hours into his

660
00:52:22.280 --> 00:52:27.360
you know, into his investigations,
and he decided he came to a certain

661
00:52:27.360 --> 00:52:30.519
conclusion about Sandy Hook, and he
wrote the book, and he was blackballed

662
00:52:30.519 --> 00:52:37.599
by his university. You can go
to the university website where his narrative is,

663
00:52:37.800 --> 00:52:40.119
you know, doctor Jim Fetzer,
and there's a huge you know,

664
00:52:40.159 --> 00:52:45.320
how they've disassociated themselves from them.
So again, here we are in a

665
00:52:45.320 --> 00:52:47.719
country we're supposed to have. You
know, people say, oh, you're

666
00:52:47.719 --> 00:52:51.599
from America. You have freedom of
speech, freedom of this, freedom of

667
00:52:51.679 --> 00:52:54.840
that Second Amendment. And then again
there's the America on paper, and then

668
00:52:54.880 --> 00:53:00.719
there's the United States that we can
see that we've experienced. We understand that

669
00:53:00.800 --> 00:53:05.360
a lot of it is a fallacy, and uh, it almost feels like

670
00:53:05.360 --> 00:53:10.119
we've entered an agreement with like in
nineteen seventies, used car salesman. Yeah,

671
00:53:10.199 --> 00:53:14.519
yeah, this is this particularly archaeologist
I was listening to. He was

672
00:53:15.840 --> 00:53:19.400
I think he was a student at
the time, and they were and they

673
00:53:19.400 --> 00:53:25.119
were out on a dig and they
told him he was he was digging at

674
00:53:25.159 --> 00:53:28.960
a certain death. You know,
they take layer by layer, and so

675
00:53:29.039 --> 00:53:31.119
once they got to a certain death, the professor told me, okay,

676
00:53:31.119 --> 00:53:38.239
you can stop digging because there's nothing
else below this point because we you know,

677
00:53:38.360 --> 00:53:43.159
they I guess they reached a certain
strata which indicated a certain age,

678
00:53:43.840 --> 00:53:46.519
and and the professor said that there
was nothing else below this point. He

679
00:53:46.519 --> 00:53:50.519
said, well, well, why
why can't I dig further further? He

680
00:53:50.559 --> 00:53:52.920
said, he said, because there's
nothing there. He said, well,

681
00:53:52.960 --> 00:53:55.639
how how will I know if I
don't dig? And that was the beginning

682
00:53:55.639 --> 00:54:00.559
of his eyes being open, you
know. The professor said, no,

683
00:54:00.639 --> 00:54:04.480
you can't dig any further because if
you do, you won't find anything.

684
00:54:04.519 --> 00:54:07.519
But he said, well, how
will I know if I don't dig?

685
00:54:07.440 --> 00:54:10.719
Say, just common sense, man, right, let me find out for

686
00:54:10.800 --> 00:54:15.079
myself. Isn't that what's supposed to
do. Isn't that what a science is

687
00:54:15.119 --> 00:54:19.920
supposed to be all about? Continue
to question it, you know, supposed

688
00:54:19.960 --> 00:54:22.159
to be And that was the beginning
of his eyes being open. And he

689
00:54:22.519 --> 00:54:28.679
was black balled every sense man,
because he found things that didn't make sense

690
00:54:28.360 --> 00:54:31.239
according to their timeline. And I
know you've heard that a million times.

691
00:54:31.280 --> 00:54:36.239
They found a whole lot of things
that don't fit the timeline. Oh yeah,

692
00:54:36.280 --> 00:54:40.760
that's but they don't recognize it.
They just they just discarded exactly,

693
00:54:42.840 --> 00:54:45.440
which makes no sense. Man.
I mean it's frustrating. Just I mean,

694
00:54:46.159 --> 00:54:51.599
on the one hand, I like
learning and listening. But at the

695
00:54:51.639 --> 00:54:52.679
same time, man, it can
be frustrated. Man, it can be

696
00:54:52.719 --> 00:54:57.760
like this is crazy. I mean, at some point you just get kind

697
00:54:57.800 --> 00:55:00.920
of tired, man, like,
I don't care. Way you turn is

698
00:55:00.960 --> 00:55:06.639
just deception. And for me that
again to me too, that's the most

699
00:55:06.719 --> 00:55:12.519
frustrating thing when I try to do
research for um, certain subjects. I

700
00:55:12.519 --> 00:55:16.119
mean, when everything is based on
lies, it's hard to discern what's true

701
00:55:16.119 --> 00:55:21.679
and what's not. Yeah, everything
is based on lies. So I mean,

702
00:55:22.119 --> 00:55:27.599
I mean, if you're if you
have if you're UM, somebody hands

703
00:55:27.599 --> 00:55:30.320
you on a map and they tell
you to find this area with an X

704
00:55:30.400 --> 00:55:35.320
marked on there. But the map
is all jacked up. You're you're probably

705
00:55:35.400 --> 00:55:38.360
never going to find the X,
right, Yeah, And that's what we're

706
00:55:38.400 --> 00:55:45.559
dealing with here. Yep. Now, I got a question I had.

707
00:55:47.079 --> 00:55:51.079
I know you've talked, I know
you've seen these some of these ancient maps.

708
00:55:51.599 --> 00:55:54.000
Yeah, sure, And I got
I got dec in my notes.

709
00:55:54.000 --> 00:55:57.199
I'm gonna send you all of this
stuff. It's not a whole lot of

710
00:55:57.199 --> 00:56:01.239
stuff, but I think one of
the one of them is a map from

711
00:56:01.280 --> 00:56:07.440
the fifteen hundreds and and I forgett
name of it, name of the map,

712
00:56:08.480 --> 00:56:12.039
but I think it was supposed to
be made around the same time as

713
00:56:12.039 --> 00:56:20.199
a Gleasian's map. But this map
shows Antarctica as it is today. Okay,

714
00:56:20.239 --> 00:56:23.960
so you're talking about the Olburna map. I think it's Urbano Monte.

715
00:56:24.039 --> 00:56:29.039
It was in the in the fifteen
eighties, and it shows Antarctica in a

716
00:56:29.079 --> 00:56:34.960
circle, but also it shows some
of it like white, like maybe it's

717
00:56:35.039 --> 00:56:37.000
ice, but some of it grain
too, which is kind of interesting.

718
00:56:38.679 --> 00:56:44.440
Yeah, I was saying that to
say, I wonder how long have they

719
00:56:44.480 --> 00:56:53.360
been putting stuff out in order to
confuse people. So so that map,

720
00:56:53.480 --> 00:56:59.119
according to from what I've seen,
it shows an app Antarctica basically as it

721
00:56:59.159 --> 00:57:05.480
is today. Yes, and so, and that was from the fifteen thirties,

722
00:57:05.519 --> 00:57:07.840
I believe. If it's the Orbano
map, I think it was later

723
00:57:08.039 --> 00:57:13.920
fifteen eighty seven, but um,
fifteen hundred is still that's the time Copernicus

724
00:57:14.000 --> 00:57:20.400
after Reformation, when you know Copernus
Copernicus was pushing his his heliocentric model.

725
00:57:20.480 --> 00:57:24.440
So this would have been you know, about forty years afterwards. Yeah,

726
00:57:24.480 --> 00:57:32.239
it's the Rontius Phinikias. Does that
ring a bail? M? Hmm,

727
00:57:35.199 --> 00:57:39.880
oronis is O R O N T
e U S f I n A e

728
00:57:40.079 --> 00:57:46.519
U S map ce Oh okay.
It was the one that's kind of shaped

729
00:57:46.559 --> 00:57:54.400
like a butterfly. M. The
Orontius Phineas map. Yeah, okay,

730
00:57:54.440 --> 00:58:09.400
here we go. Okay, that
is interesting. Yeah, this is different

731
00:58:09.400 --> 00:58:13.280
than the other one I was looking
at. That is very interesting. Yeah,

732
00:58:13.320 --> 00:58:15.039
this was fifty Yeah, you're right, fifteen thirty one. That was

733
00:58:15.119 --> 00:58:22.840
That's so weird. That is just
almost exactly the same time that Copernicus,

734
00:58:22.880 --> 00:58:29.239
you know, was hollered about heliocentrism. And it's interesting. It's interesting that

735
00:58:29.280 --> 00:58:32.840
there was an article written just a
month ago on this website that talks about

736
00:58:34.199 --> 00:58:38.159
Antarctica on this map looks ice free, which certain aspects of the other map,

737
00:58:38.239 --> 00:58:45.079
the Urbano Monte map, some of
it looked icy, but some of

738
00:58:45.079 --> 00:58:52.320
it was also green. Very interesting. Yeah, I said that to say,

739
00:58:52.920 --> 00:58:54.960
I question a lot of stuff,
man, I mean, because the

740
00:58:55.000 --> 00:59:02.519
powers of darkness they got a plan
and so just like with the Admiral Bird

741
00:59:02.679 --> 00:59:08.519
videos. Oh sure, I'm kind
of like air debate on that one.

742
00:59:09.239 --> 00:59:14.599
I don't know about any anything comes
from the government, man, I'm questioning.

743
00:59:14.920 --> 00:59:20.320
I don't know absolutely, because they
got a plan and they've been working

744
00:59:20.360 --> 00:59:24.280
this plan for a long time,
and so I'm not saying it is false.

745
00:59:24.400 --> 00:59:29.159
What do he said? But I
questioned anything that comes from the government

746
00:59:30.599 --> 00:59:36.079
anything. Yeah, I think Admiral
Bird was fifty I don't even know if

747
00:59:36.079 --> 00:59:39.920
it was fifty fifty. Obviously.
I think his journal was to distract from

748
00:59:39.960 --> 00:59:44.840
the truth. I think it was
just a diversion. Yeah. Yeah,

749
00:59:44.920 --> 00:59:49.519
I don't believe any of the nonsense
that his aircraft was taken over by them

750
00:59:49.559 --> 00:59:57.159
and guided in Yeah, yeah,
yeah. Basically anything comes from the government.

751
00:59:57.199 --> 00:59:59.880
Man. You gotta you know,
it can't be trusted. Really,

752
01:00:00.599 --> 01:00:05.559
I couldn't agree more trust me.
Um, something I wanted to ask you

753
01:00:05.639 --> 01:00:07.599
before I forget, and I normally
asked this earlier. When when you finally

754
01:00:07.719 --> 01:00:13.039
came upon flat of earth and accepted
it. And I'm sure after all the

755
01:00:13.360 --> 01:00:17.639
my goodness, I've been lied to, there was a certain extent of excitement.

756
01:00:17.679 --> 01:00:22.000
Did you. Were you willing to
share that with with folks close to

757
01:00:22.039 --> 01:00:27.440
you? And how was it received? Yeah? I told my kids because

758
01:00:27.480 --> 01:00:30.719
my son, he's kind of like
me. He's always been into conspiracy stuff.

759
01:00:31.079 --> 01:00:35.079
He's the one who told me about
nine to eleven. So I told

760
01:00:35.199 --> 01:00:37.760
him. I told my kids,
I told my wife, and they all

761
01:00:37.800 --> 01:00:39.400
pretty much received it. You know, they don't dig into it like I

762
01:00:39.480 --> 01:00:45.559
do. But they agreed that the
government can't be trusted, so you know,

763
01:00:45.639 --> 01:00:52.360
they don't. They they're pretty much
in in agreement with me. Put

764
01:00:52.360 --> 01:00:55.679
it that way. That's great,
but you know they don't. They don't

765
01:00:55.679 --> 01:01:00.039
take the time to dig into it
like I do. Right, Um,

766
01:01:00.320 --> 01:01:04.880
that's your son. That sounds like
it did. But yeah, but my

767
01:01:04.920 --> 01:01:08.880
son did. My son, my
son really got into it. That's awesome.

768
01:01:09.199 --> 01:01:13.880
Yeah, that was the thing I
ran into. My wife was extremely

769
01:01:13.960 --> 01:01:16.639
receptive. Um, but when you
start to go outside the family to like

770
01:01:17.159 --> 01:01:22.119
siblings, et cetera, you get
that look like do we need to commit

771
01:01:22.199 --> 01:01:28.920
you Yeah? Yeah yeah yeah so
and I can understand, man, I

772
01:01:28.920 --> 01:01:32.039
can understand. Yeah, we were
all that guy. Yeah yeah, even

773
01:01:32.039 --> 01:01:36.320
even things that that are not related
to flat earth. I mean, like

774
01:01:37.320 --> 01:01:42.000
I will watch videos about the ancient
pyramids. Uh, it's a guy.

775
01:01:42.280 --> 01:01:51.800
He has a YouTube, um video, I mean YouTube show called Uncharted X,

776
01:01:52.920 --> 01:01:59.920
and he looks at the precision in
the premiers, some of the architecture,

777
01:02:00.199 --> 01:02:07.559
other architecture, obelisk and vases that
they have found. Some of these

778
01:02:07.639 --> 01:02:14.079
vases, man, are super thin, they are perfect. And he's making

779
01:02:14.079 --> 01:02:19.039
a point that, man, the
Egyptians didn't make this stuff. Uh,

780
01:02:19.440 --> 01:02:22.719
so you want you have to check
out our uncharted X. He's real good.

781
01:02:22.840 --> 01:02:28.840
And his point is that this was
not made by the Egyptians. So

782
01:02:28.960 --> 01:02:32.599
what are your thoughts on the pyramids
and what do you think they're all about.

783
01:02:36.280 --> 01:02:38.519
I have no idea what they're about, but I don't believe the Egyptians

784
01:02:38.519 --> 01:02:44.280
made them. I believe it's probably
made before the flood. Really, that's

785
01:02:44.360 --> 01:02:47.480
very interesting. Yeah, if you, if you, if you look at

786
01:02:47.559 --> 01:02:52.480
him, man, not just the
pyramids, but some of some of these

787
01:02:52.519 --> 01:02:58.280
sculptures. Now, the Egyptians did
make some that were pretty amazing, but

788
01:02:58.719 --> 01:03:05.320
it's nothing like the ones that holder. Some of them are symmetrically perfect.

789
01:03:07.199 --> 01:03:10.679
Uh. Some of them have holes
drill done. Uh. Some of the

790
01:03:10.760 --> 01:03:15.719
stones, you know, there's no
way you can you can make you could

791
01:03:15.800 --> 01:03:22.199
uh make these cut cut these stones
with with with with the tools that they

792
01:03:22.320 --> 01:03:27.840
say the Egyptians aid. Yeah,
so if you look at if you look

793
01:03:27.880 --> 01:03:31.119
at his YouTube channel on chart of
X, you'll be amazed. You know,

794
01:03:31.199 --> 01:03:35.159
you make a great point that I'm
not sure I ever connected together.

795
01:03:35.880 --> 01:03:43.840
Um, you know, back then, I mean they had the wherewithal to

796
01:03:43.920 --> 01:03:49.800
build babble, which was according to
the Bible, was trying to reach heaven,

797
01:03:49.840 --> 01:03:52.119
which we know today is the firmament. So if they were able to

798
01:03:52.159 --> 01:03:55.960
build something like that, that you
make a great point that could have been

799
01:03:57.000 --> 01:04:01.639
something done back in that time as
well. Yeah, bottom line, if

800
01:04:01.679 --> 01:04:04.880
you watch this show, and I've
heard of in different places other places,

801
01:04:04.920 --> 01:04:10.519
also you can tell the things that
the Egyptians did build, and you can

802
01:04:10.559 --> 01:04:14.280
tell the things that they didn't build. Just put it that way, that

803
01:04:14.559 --> 01:04:20.159
they didn't make because those things are
basically perfect. The symmetry is perfect.

804
01:04:20.760 --> 01:04:24.880
The vases that they found, some
of the vases that they found, you

805
01:04:24.880 --> 01:04:28.719
can tell the crew vases. But
what they did was when you look at

806
01:04:28.800 --> 01:04:33.480
his show, you will see what
happened was the Egyptians they put their names

807
01:04:33.559 --> 01:04:41.079
on these things. So they scribe
their names on these structures, and you

808
01:04:41.119 --> 01:04:46.920
can tell the difference between this precise
sculpture compared to the writing on the sculpture.

809
01:04:46.960 --> 01:04:51.400
The sculpture the writing gonu sculpture is
primitive. It's not perfect. It's

810
01:04:51.440 --> 01:05:00.199
crude, but the sculpture itself is
perfect, so they don't match. Really

811
01:05:00.199 --> 01:05:02.800
intriguing. What was it you said? It was a YouTube channel, Yeah,

812
01:05:02.920 --> 01:05:09.599
called uncharted X uncharted X because I
want to put the link in the

813
01:05:09.599 --> 01:05:12.639
show description forever's Okay, there we
go. This is his name is Ben

814
01:05:12.719 --> 01:05:16.880
van kirkquick I believe so. Yeah, it's uncharted X. Yeah. His

815
01:05:17.280 --> 01:05:20.440
videos are amazing. Well, okay, and if you're listening folks, I'll

816
01:05:20.480 --> 01:05:25.239
put that in the show description as
well. It looks very interesting. And

817
01:05:25.280 --> 01:05:29.440
he's got case closing in on a
half million subscribers, so he's got to

818
01:05:29.440 --> 01:05:32.639
be putting out some good content.
Yeah, check out that one. Checkout

819
01:05:32.679 --> 01:05:36.039
all of them, but check out
that one about the vases. Uh,

820
01:05:36.360 --> 01:05:40.440
it's amazing some of the I mean, how can you get granted to be

821
01:05:40.599 --> 01:05:45.039
so thin that you can shine a
light through it? Yeah? I'm seeing

822
01:05:45.079 --> 01:05:47.760
that. It looks like one of
his more popular scanning of pre dynastic.

823
01:05:48.280 --> 01:05:55.039
Yeah, granite face a thousandth of
am Wow, that is incredibly thin,

824
01:05:56.119 --> 01:05:59.800
That's what I'm saying. Wow,
you ain't gonna do that with a stone.

825
01:06:00.159 --> 01:06:02.800
No, yeah, it's crazy,
and you know I saw it.

826
01:06:02.920 --> 01:06:06.199
It's amazing. Yeah. Yeah.
But but to answer, I think,

827
01:06:06.239 --> 01:06:12.360
I don't. I don't believe it
was was the Egyptians, I you know,

828
01:06:12.480 --> 01:06:16.000
and I don't know. It's just
I thought I believe it probably may

829
01:06:16.000 --> 01:06:25.360
have been done before the flood,
possibly by the by the fallen Angels in

830
01:06:25.400 --> 01:06:28.880
some way. So that's kind of
my take on that. But who knows.

831
01:06:29.760 --> 01:06:34.639
That's really interesting. Yeah, absolutely, but that is interesting. They

832
01:06:34.679 --> 01:06:38.760
want you to believe that the Egyptians
did that. Uh, and a lot

833
01:06:38.760 --> 01:06:42.559
of it never really made any sense, right, And then when you go

834
01:06:42.639 --> 01:06:45.039
when you watch his video, you
will see the exact same thing. Man,

835
01:06:45.880 --> 01:06:51.280
The academics academia is blackballing anybody who
says anything other than the Egyptians did

836
01:06:53.159 --> 01:06:58.639
That's it. Same thing. Wow, when when you he said, when

837
01:06:58.679 --> 01:07:00.159
you go, when you go to
Egypt, they make you watch a video

838
01:07:00.719 --> 01:07:04.360
showing you that the Egyptians made all
this stuff. You know, you got

839
01:07:04.480 --> 01:07:08.639
to you gotta sit and watch this
video first before you go on the tour.

840
01:07:09.559 --> 01:07:12.000
And they and they put in your
head. Yeah, the Egyptians,

841
01:07:12.000 --> 01:07:17.679
they they did all of this with
stones and brass brass tool you know.

842
01:07:18.440 --> 01:07:23.440
Yeah, that's crazy man. Yeah, I've heard everything from there was only

843
01:07:23.440 --> 01:07:26.800
this like once a year they would
have this great flood and they would use

844
01:07:26.800 --> 01:07:30.079
the flood to help get the uh, the stones up there. I've heard,

845
01:07:30.639 --> 01:07:33.079
Um, they're not really blocks,
they were just formed concrete. Said

846
01:07:33.079 --> 01:07:36.559
they would like build the forms and
then pour the concrete. I mean,

847
01:07:36.599 --> 01:07:42.000
I've heard it all, and your
theory certainly makes a lot of sense.

848
01:07:42.000 --> 01:07:45.000
And you look at them, the
ziggaratte of her in Iraq, These these

849
01:07:45.000 --> 01:07:49.800
things are just Um, I think
you're right. And even I read an

850
01:07:49.880 --> 01:07:55.639
article lately where um what I forget
where it was, but they took a

851
01:07:55.719 --> 01:07:59.920
test from the late eighteen hundreds and
gave it to their students and I think

852
01:08:00.000 --> 01:08:03.480
eighty five percent of the students failed. Um. That's you know, we're

853
01:08:03.519 --> 01:08:09.079
definitely not getting any smarter now.
Technology wise, we're becoming more tech savvy.

854
01:08:09.400 --> 01:08:13.440
Were we have information at our fingertips. But if we have if that

855
01:08:13.519 --> 01:08:16.239
information is no good to us,
if it's full of lies and deceit,

856
01:08:16.319 --> 01:08:21.840
then what good does it do us? Yeah? I would say, do

857
01:08:21.880 --> 01:08:29.159
you remember this guy called balls out
physics? Yes, yes, sir huh

858
01:08:29.239 --> 01:08:30.840
yeah, okay, okay, you
already know about him. Yeah, I

859
01:08:30.880 --> 01:08:34.319
wish we had more guys like that. Yep. These are people that actually

860
01:08:34.319 --> 01:08:39.680
put it to the test. Yeah, I love I not only love his

861
01:08:40.199 --> 01:08:44.079
but he put out, but I
also loved his attitude. Yep. You

862
01:08:44.159 --> 01:08:46.520
know. Uh yeah, I didn't
know if you knew about him or not.

863
01:08:47.039 --> 01:08:51.000
Yep, I am aware of him. He's got a great uh and

864
01:08:51.079 --> 01:08:55.800
he presented it like you said,
he presented it really well too. Yeah.

865
01:08:55.880 --> 01:08:57.800
Yeah, I like you the attitude
you know, he didn't he didn't

866
01:08:57.800 --> 01:09:01.279
come across and he knew every day
he was cocky whatsoever. No, man,

867
01:09:01.359 --> 01:09:03.319
I love that guy. Man.
I wish I wish we had him

868
01:09:03.920 --> 01:09:09.399
back making videos. Yep, agreed, um, But you know again if

869
01:09:09.439 --> 01:09:12.039
if if you're catching flak, that
means you're over the target. A lot

870
01:09:12.039 --> 01:09:15.399
of these people who've been booted from
YouTube, unfortunately, it's hard to track

871
01:09:15.439 --> 01:09:20.000
them down once they're gone. Yeah, I think he uh from what I

872
01:09:20.000 --> 01:09:25.039
if what I remember, it wasn't
that he got booted. He just moved

873
01:09:25.079 --> 01:09:29.359
on. His employer found out what
he was doing and what he believed.

874
01:09:29.439 --> 01:09:33.560
Oh wow, and uh yeah,
he had to stop because basically you know

875
01:09:33.600 --> 01:09:40.640
he was about to lose his job. Isn't that sad? Yeah? Yeah,

876
01:09:40.680 --> 01:09:44.159
but I loved his uh, I
loved his show man, Yeah for

877
01:09:44.279 --> 01:09:48.279
sure. Wow, we have really
covered the gamut. Was there anything else

878
01:09:48.319 --> 01:09:51.039
that you have had that that we
hadn't touched on yet that you wanted to

879
01:09:51.840 --> 01:09:59.880
bring up? No? Um,
I just I'm glad I found your show.

880
01:10:00.239 --> 01:10:04.560
Um. I love to show love
to guest. I wish you could

881
01:10:04.600 --> 01:10:08.079
track down the gap balls out of
Physics and maybe he could come on.

882
01:10:08.199 --> 01:10:10.720
But yeah, other than that,
man, yeah, just no, no

883
01:10:10.760 --> 01:10:15.560
further questions, Just enjoy listening to
TV show to have this conversation. Did

884
01:10:15.600 --> 01:10:17.039
you know do you remember I haven't
looked in a while. Did he leave

885
01:10:17.239 --> 01:10:23.840
his channel up or did he have
to take it down? I found some

886
01:10:23.840 --> 01:10:26.159
stuff still on YouTube. That's how
I found him, man. I sent

887
01:10:26.199 --> 01:10:28.479
you a link because I didn knew
if you knew about him or not.

888
01:10:28.640 --> 01:10:32.119
I just got a few things I
wanted to send you, and I his

889
01:10:32.399 --> 01:10:36.840
uh his. He still has some
videos on YouTube, so they're still up

890
01:10:36.880 --> 01:10:41.199
there. There's still on YouTube.
Okay, yep, they're definitely making it

891
01:10:41.439 --> 01:10:43.720
hard to find. I put him
in the search engine. Yeah, it's

892
01:10:43.760 --> 01:10:46.800
hard. It's hard to sign,
but I found him. Yeah, that

893
01:10:47.479 --> 01:10:51.279
is so sad. Um, Well, listen, it's been great. Um.

894
01:10:51.439 --> 01:10:55.720
I'm so glad that we were finally
able to catch up with each other.

895
01:10:55.800 --> 01:11:00.199
I know you're an extremely busy person, and we appreciate you for what

896
01:11:00.319 --> 01:11:03.640
you do for us and spreading the
word of God and all the knowledge that

897
01:11:03.720 --> 01:11:09.279
you gave us today. And I
hope there Brian Mullen, I think his

898
01:11:09.359 --> 01:11:12.960
name was Yep, yep, yep, yep. Yeah, there we go.

899
01:11:13.159 --> 01:11:15.479
But yeah, it's been a real
pleasure meeting you. And uh,

900
01:11:15.840 --> 01:11:19.039
for the folks listening again, if
Bernard's message resonates with you, please do

901
01:11:20.640 --> 01:11:25.439
well. We'll put his email in
the show description and I'll put other things

902
01:11:25.479 --> 01:11:30.439
as well. I'll put the channel
we just talked about, the Uncharted X

903
01:11:30.920 --> 01:11:32.680
and then I'll also put a really
cool link, you know, I'd mentioned

904
01:11:32.720 --> 01:11:39.079
the superheroes and the hidden meanings behind
that. There's a very cool video I

905
01:11:39.159 --> 01:11:43.640
have for that as well. And
again, we thank everyone who's been a

906
01:11:43.680 --> 01:11:46.680
part of this journey. We still
have one, two, three, I

907
01:11:46.680 --> 01:11:50.880
guess five more people scheduled for May. We'll take a break from Memorial Day

908
01:11:51.079 --> 01:11:56.760
weekend until about the tenth of June. Catch my breath and recharge my battery,

909
01:11:56.840 --> 01:11:59.800
spend time with the family, and
then we'll go strong until the Christmas

910
01:12:00.079 --> 01:12:03.800
Rake again, Bernard, thank you
so much for joining us and all the

911
01:12:03.840 --> 01:12:09.319
information you gave us today. Sir, Thank you, George, thank you

912
01:12:09.359 --> 01:12:12.680
for your show. Keep up the
good word. Man. Don't go nowhere.

913
01:12:13.199 --> 01:12:15.920
I won't. God bless you,
and God bless all the listeners,

914
01:12:15.920 --> 01:12:17.600
and we'll talk again real soon.
Everybody,