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That is Vultures. The band is
Swarm in all caps, by the way

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from Texas, and we've got them
with us on Skype. Hopefully everybody can

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hear each other. Hello, are
you guys there? Can you hear me?

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Oh? Awesome? Yes? Yes, I can you guys hear me?

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Okay? Here? Beautiful, beautiful. I always get nervous when we're

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merging calls with Skype, because well, it's Skype, and you know how

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that can go. But it looks
like we were successful. Welcome, guys,

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who do we have on the line
with us? Go ahead and introduce

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ourselves. I'm a Parish, I'm
the singer of Swarm and also the virginal

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creator. And then we got Bats
our guitar player. Here, yep,

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I'm here, I'm Bats. I
play the guitar all right. Welcome,

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Welcome, Hey, I love your
sound, I have to say, so,

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we don't I feel like the genre
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the term. I feel like there's
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like there was a time when there
were a lot of bands doing this,

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but I don't feel like there's that
many around right now that are doing this.

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So when Jenny sent me you guys
and said, you know, this

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is a guest that I've booked.
I listened to these tracks and we're gonna

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play another one at the end of
our conversation, and I was just blown

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away. This is great stuff.
I really appreciate that a lot. Do

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you guys kind of where you where
in Texas? Are you? Are you

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in Dallas? Yeah? Dallas,
Texas? Okay. Yeah. We've talked

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to a number of bands over the
past couple of years from your area,

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but you know, but they're always
just like, you know, metal,

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mostly just straight metal. So this
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said, it's unusual. I mean, are there other bands in your area

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doing what you're doing or do you
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kind of the only industrial metal band
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have industrial acts here, which we
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and we also cross genre and play
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as far as like an actual industrial
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only one here in DFW. Yep, it's just us. Yeah, So

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I would imagine doing what you're doing. You know, like you said,

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you play with a lot of industrial
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of metal bands. Oh yeah,
yeah, because you kind of fit in

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either way, right when you when
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ahead believe it or not. Like, yeah, our actual first like show

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is an actual band and not a
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concert, no kidding, no kidding. So in a in a scenario like

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that, how does that like,
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them over. But are people into
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a process of kind of winning people
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a little bit, right, you're
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else is doing. So the first
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the death Metal which is our first
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you know, and I was like, these are a bunch of big metal

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head dudes, and we're not like, you know, up there like Cookie

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heavy. So I was kind of
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you know, like I guess people
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more metal, you know, and
different kinds of metal. And I've

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been noticing, you know, a
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cross genre, you know, as
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we we're very blessed here in DFW
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a lot of understanding people who just
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and different types of metal, you
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it's been a definite blessing. You
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play with a lot of different metal
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and we've played with a lot of
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gotten like kind of the best of
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Yeah, that's excellent. Paris,
you mentioned you started the project. Yeah,

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so originally I was in a synthpop
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I wanted to do something that was
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heavy and broody sounding. So during
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everything, I just you know,
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so I h I just sat there
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different sound palette and coming up with
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I got a show that I had
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because my singer was sick, and
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just me and a bunch of synthesizers. You know. I got up on

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stage and performed nervous as heck,
you know it can be, and everybody

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was like filling it and I was
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stage, and next thing, you
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shows and time to make this a
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reaching out and you know, we
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so far, and the band definitely
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you know, he's really added a
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each one of us has our own
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to the table. You know.
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year and a half ago and I
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want to do that? Yeah,
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and he was like, you're in
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it that? So you're from the
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you to Dallas. Oh? It
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during the recession, and this is
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and it worked out musically for you, that's for sure, it really did.

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gig with with Swarm. And I
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It's probably the best band I've ever
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lot of bands and it's just the
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Like Parish was saying, all four
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taste and we all bring it in
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new metal, we have industrial,
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comes together. Yeah. Yeah,
because yeah, oh no, go ahead,

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like I come from the hardcore punk
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get into industrial until like three years
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me, you know. Yeah,
yeah, we're gold Belting Pot. No,

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that's that's great. Whoops, I
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Sorry, we are going to play
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make sure it's loaded up and ready, and accidentally started playing it. Little

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Seat Preview of Perdition another great track. But now, so who else is

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in the band with you? And
what does everybody do? Like do you

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have a live drummer or how does
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the drummer position in our band.
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we do a lot of programmed distorted
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we started off with the drummer,
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to part ways with him due to
health health reasons. He was a little

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bit of an older gentleman. We
love him to death. Dean, if

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you're hearing this, we love you, bro. You know, we had,

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uh, we had to part ways, and then we've just kind of

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struggled with it. And then we
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all the drum machine work for us
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to him, and you know,
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having him on stage, we just
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right now, we just run run
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gotta they gotta jibe with us.
You know, we're all friends and it's

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kind of a plus, you know
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we do because but at the same
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want somebody who can fit with us, you know, because we spend a

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lot of time together and you know, it's just it makes sense, you

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know, at the end of the
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that you have a project where you
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if you're when you're doing something you
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know, industrial is the one sort
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know, not necessarily have a drummer. And I know that. And this

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seems to be universal because whether I
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from the local area up here or
whomever it is, drummers seem to be

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the hardest to find. They are. Yeah, they are different bands,

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yes, twenty different bands. Yeah. Well I have a theory about that.

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I think what happens is, you
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you want to start playing a musical
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the conversation with your parents about,
yeah, I want to play and here's

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what I want to play. That
and drums and maybe the tuba are the

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two instruments where they're going to actively
try to talk you out of. You

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know, nobody wants you know,
no, no parents want you know,

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drums in their you know, unless
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neighbors. And you know what I
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drummers are in such high demand and
there seems to be so few of them.

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Oh yeah, it's definitely been a
challenge, uh you know, and

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uh we we've tried a few different
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match and stuff of that, nettor. So yeah, we're not actively looking

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for anybody. We personally feel that
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we'll just know, you know.
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Vinnie Steel, our bass player,
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himself. Even if we didn't play, you can do there with him and

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his bass and it would be a
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see it. Oh no kidding.
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stage and he comes from the hardcore
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dancing and throwing his bass around and
he's something to see for sure. He

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can play that bass. Like our
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He will punch the notes in literally
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the song. Wow. Well,
I I'm a bass player myself, so

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I have to tell you I really
admire that I'll have to. Are there

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videos online, like on YouTube?
Are the videos of you guys playing live?

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okay, and yeah we have.
We have a lot of live videos up,

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some actual full shows of us even
I'm gonna we're on uh we're on

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Facebook, We're on Instagram, and
we're on good old TikTok okay. Very

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good. So I'm curious too about
the name. Uh where does the name

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come from? And why is it
in all caps? And is there any

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particular significance to that. So when
I originally started this project, it didn't

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have a name, and I just
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I wanted something that fit the sound, you know, and I did like

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a lot of grainy sense that kind
of reminded me of like insects buzzing and

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stuff. So that was kind of
like the whole like aspect of it.

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And then like you know, a
lot of my songs are like, you

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know, anti government, anti this
and anti that, sus like we swarm

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you know this stuff, and uh, you know, it's like I don't

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know, it just kind of fit. And as far as the all caps

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is concerned. I think that's just
the way the logo shaped up. It's

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really not in all caps. But
it's be honest with you, that's never

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been discussed before you vot. You've
opened a new a new discussion. Okay,

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okay, Yeah, it's not abbreviations
or anything like that. Yeah,

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it's funny. Yeah, it's funny
because there's some bands too that, for

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whatever reason, just gets spelled in
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I'm a I'm a Kiss fan.
My favorite band is Kiss, but you'll

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often see Kiss written in all caps
even though it doesn't stand for anything.

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Or Rush is another example. You'll
often see Rush written in all caps for

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no apparent reason. It's just people
just write it that way. You know.

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It's kind of funny. Yeah,
I mean definitely the way that our

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logo is drawn. Yeah, it's
it's an all casts, which I designed

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it myself, so I might have
a lot to do with it. Yeah,

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yeah, no, it makes sense. Now, what about the live

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show, because obviously the music that
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to I mean, do you have
any kind of production going on or any

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kind of stage effects, or maybe
you don't need that with your bass player

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who's apparently very energetic on stage,
but I mean does anything like do you

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have like a projection screen or anything
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we have some of the best venues
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like offer like full light shows and
everything back and yeah, we've got it.

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Like if you if you have,
if you ever are in town,

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check out Haltam Theater like I I
recommend it, and you got to get

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a hot dog while you're there.
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place. And you know, as
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not even gonna lie. We started
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our drummer, he had a lot
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cool looking, but we kind of
we kind of let that go because you

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know, setting all that stuff up
on the shows, you only got so

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much time on stage, you know, and we never really sat down and

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perfected that aspect of it. So
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But uh, it's definitely stuff that
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we just recently I started incorporating a
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you know, it just fits to
songs and h we have a song

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called Heartworm where I wear it and
stuff. So we're definitely getting to the

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point where we are about to start
investing a little bit more in the in

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the actual scenery on stage and stuff. Yeah. Yeah. One thing we

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do is like I move around a
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back of the sense he moves around
a lot too. He is constantly moving,

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and Vince is constantly moving, and
Parish is moving. It's there's a

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lot going on on stage even without
the lighting. Yeah, but like Parish

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was saying, we're gonna start adding
those some banners because I don't use an

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AMP. I actually plug in directly
with an AMP modeler that up. I

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could be on stage in two minutes
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same thing with Vinnie Steele. You
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play with love you for that too. That and the lack of a drummer.

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I bet other bands that you play
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I just know from my own experience, like there's nothing worse then you know,

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waiting for you know, when you
got a bunch of bands on a

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show, and I also used to
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like, there's nothing worse than when
you're waiting for bands to set up and

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they're taking forever. Even worse when
like if you're following a band and you're

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waiting to get on stage and they're
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it sounds like you guys must be
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with the way that you you approach
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minutes the whole band, No kidding, Now, we do take the gum

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riser up though. We put Jermaine
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station set up and everything. Yeah, it's it's pretty incredible. I don't

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know if you've ever seen Skinny Puppy
live, but it's kind of, you

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know, like Kevin Keyes has a
setup. You know, it's monstrous.

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You know. I got to see
their last show, which was also my

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first time seeing them, and it
was sonice to see his rig up there,

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you know, and uh, that's
kind of how we run. He

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has his he has this big setup
up there. You know, he kind

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of overtowers us. He's just back
their head and just throwing so much energy

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out into the crowd. It's unreal. Oh, that's cool. That's cool.

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Do you guys have any music videos? Have you made any videos that

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you've posted other than you know,
you mentioned those live performances, but but

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have you produced any videos. We
have not yet. We're actually about to

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start getting into that. We have
a song called Heartworm that were you know,

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when Heartworm was originally written, it
was with a lot of different members

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besides me and Billy. So we're
gonna amp that song and we're gonna be

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releasing a new EP with that and
a couple of other new songs on it

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and a cover of Limp Biscuits Break
Stuff. Oh that's cool. I was

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gonna it. Used to be in
a band that we would cover that song.

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Yeah, you added my name,
Parish, do what you said?

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Billy? You added me? Oh
no, that's sorry. Oops, it's

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okay. Everybody knows me. It's
not a big deal. Yeah, yeah,

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there you go, there you go. Break Stuff is a fun song

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to play. I was in a
band called the jinkst and we used to

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cover that song and Uh, our
our singer, uh Rhino, he would

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like turn purple during the you know, the breakdown part. He would he

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would get so intense and and like
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from what I've seen. I mean, Ryan would he would just turn red

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like he was so into it.
That's a fun song. We joked about

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it for the longest because you know, we play with a lot of metal

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bands, and you know, everybody
everybody wants to, you know, talk

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smack about Limp Biscuit and not take
him seriously and stuff. And I was

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like, man, I don't care. I grew up listening no all different

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music, and I I mean when
I was at when you're at a party,

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you know, and you're in your
young teens back then, you know,

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you you partied your butt offlessly in
the Limp Biscuit and everybody did.

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So we joked doing it as a
cover for the longest and we unveiled it

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at it like an All Metals so
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and people absolutely lost their mind,
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and it goes to give me something
to break part hopping. I was like,

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Yeah, we're gonna be doing this
song for a while now that we

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have full video of that on our
TikTok. The full version of that and

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you can even me. My wife
tried to start and watching a bit during

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it. It was great. That's
great. You guys do any other any

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other covers in this project? Uh? We do. We try to.

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We try to incorporate one cover into
our every live set we do. So

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we have a we have a cover
of Heresy by nine and Nails that we

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play and it's like really heavy and
uh I got the double bass in it

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and everything. And we're working on
a cover of uh urmy Loose by lover

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Boy. Actually that's fun. I
like that. All right, all right,

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very cool, very cool. Where
do you guys record, because there's

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so many different ways to record music
now? Uh? I actually believe it

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or not. I handle all the
recording at home. Our our next EP

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is gonna actually be the first studio
like in a like actual studio setting.

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I'm gonna I'm gonna have an audio
engineer do all the mixing and mastering because

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I know a lot I hate doing
mixing and mastering. Yeah, so we're

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gonna we're gonna just gonna We're gonna
outsource it this go around and get everything

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nice and polished up and do actual
physicals of it and everything which we'll have

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available on our website. I'd expect
it to be complete, probably or towards

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twenty twenty five. Okay, okay, so you're gonna you say physical,

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so you're gonna actually put it out
on a CD as well? Yeah,

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yeah, yeah, CD, probably
cassettes available. Cassettes okay, yeah.

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Interesting. You know, it's been
a topic of discussion on the show for

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a long time. I remember it
must have been five or six years ago,

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maybe longer. I was on band
camp looking for uh, looking for

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bands and band camp dot com,
and I still remember vividly the moment where

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I saw that there were artists in
this area who were putting out things on

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cassette, And the first one I
stumbled upon, I was like, is

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this a Is this real? And
I realized there were a bunch of artists

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doing it, and I was like, oh my god, cassettes are back.

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I never saw that coming. Yeah, yeah, but that actually comes

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from your younger audience. So I
go to a lot of punk shows and

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a lot of like, you know, more obscure shows, and that's kind

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of where you'll see the cassette tape
set. Yeah. Oh, and I

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was shocked the first time on when
I went to this venue called Kiki's House,

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and uh, there was an industrial
group from California called the Diesel Dudes

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play and then they had cassette tapes
and I was like, what is this?

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And so I had to buy one, you know. Yeah, you

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know, I listened to it regularly, like it's it's definitely a regular play

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for me. That's wild. When
you when you got that cassette, did

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you did you have something to play
it on or did you have to get

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something to play it out? I
had to go. I went to a

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thrift store and bought like an old
ghetto blaster. Yeah, that's what I've

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did. Use it. Oh,
don't let him kid you. He's got

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a Hello kiddy one nice. Nothing
wrong with that. Yeah, it's it's

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interesting how one of the things that
I find interesting about just getting older is

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is seeing over time what you know, how these things change and what goes

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away and what remains. And sometimes
what you think is going to go away

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or did go away, ends up
coming back. And sometimes things that you

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thought would never go away do go
away, you know, in terms of

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technology, and you know, I
used to work for I left there in

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twenty thirteen. I used to work
for a national chain that's old CDs,

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and and I remember everybody talking about
even back then, you know, any

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day now CDs are just going to
be gone. There's gonna be no more

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CDs. But even today, you
know, here it is twenty twenty four,

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people still buy CDs. You know, people still want physical media.

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I mean it's a lot less than
it used to be, but you know

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people still buy it. Me personally, I'm at a show. If I

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hear a new band that I really
want as an artist, I understand that

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you know, these are these guys
aren't making you know, big money off

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of these Spotify streams. You know
makes so much money off Spotify, so

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thanks to me. Well, I
feel the ultimate compliment that you can give

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an artists when you see them live
is actually purchasing their music from them,

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because you're you're paying them way more
for an album than what you know Spotify

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has given them. And you got
to have like a memory there in your

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hand, you know, you can
pull it up and be like, man,

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I remember when I bought this.
That was a cool show. Those

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guys are great, you know.
Yeah. I have a whole CD collection

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at my house and it's nothing but
local music and DFW bands. And you

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know, I've always try to pick
up a you know, my favorite band's

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new release and stuff when they dropped
something new and whatnot. You know,

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No, that's great. No,
I commend you for that. And and

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that's such an important point that you
brought up about, you know, if

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you're going to support local artists,
you know, yeah, buy their stuff

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because yeah, uh Spotify streams.
In fact, Spotify you guys probably know

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this already, but I guess recently
they've changed it so now if you're under

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a certain threshold, they're just not
going to pay you anything. And granted

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it was only pennies anyway, but
you know, so it's it's so important

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to support local music. Yeah.
Anyway, the only thing that saved us

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is we have a remix out by
Xavier from Three Teeth, another well known

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industrial metal BANDA and that's that's kind
of been the only thing pushing us is

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that we have that out there.
So it's definitely been a blessing. How

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did that come about? Interesting story? Actually I met him in a chat

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that wasn't even related to their band. I didn't even know about their band.

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It was access virus form which is
a synthesizer I use and uh we

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we comment. I commented on a
post of his because he had showed a

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picture of his rig, and I
asked him a couple of questions about his

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sense because I was still learning it. He gave me some real good,

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uh information on it and everything,
and we just kind of started, you

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know, talking back and forth,
and uh, you know, he told

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me he was in a band and
I was like really and he told me.

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I was like, yeah, we're
doing pretty good. And uh he

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sent me a copy for music and
I was like wow. And for me,

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that was the thing that really got
me to want to do industrial with

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those guys. And so when we
started kind of getting a little bit more

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traction, I was like, man, let's get a remix done. And

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I was nervous. I wrote him
and I was like, hey, man,

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uh, you want to do a
remix for us, you know,

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and uh, I was surprised.
He told me he would do it,

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and you know it, Uh it
was pretty cool actually, you know,

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like he made a club remix.
It was great. Oh wow, Yeah

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that's fantastic. Yeah, good,
good for you guys. That's great.

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So what's kind of the trajectory you've
got are you? Do you have anything

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coming up as far as new music. Obviously we're going to play another track

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in a moment, But what should
we know about what does the future hold

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for you guys in the short term
or the long term. We do have

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coming up. We definitely do have
new music coming up. We got some

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things in the pipe right now.
We've recorded and that's gonna be coming soon.

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Excellent, excellent out there looking for
that street Sweeper song and we released

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it. It's it's gonna be a
heavy one too, very cool. Well,

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please send it to us when it's
ready to you know, we'll play

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it here and we'll definitely have to
have you guys back. I love what

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you're doing. Like I said,
I feel like there's not enough industrial metal

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and it's the stuff is great.
I really love it. I really love

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it. And what should people know
about how to find you guys online?

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To keep up with everything that you're
doing. Oh Billy handle that way.

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He's the social media googur Well keep
going our website ww dot swarmdtx dot com.

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You can see all our shows on
there. We have pictures, we

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had Spotify to go to. We
also have Facebook, just put in Swarm

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Dallas. You'll find us okay,
running ram Swarm Underscore dt X on Instagram

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and on Facebook. We are official
Swarm band on TikTok that's you. Just

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put that in and we'll pop up. Excellent, excellent. Uh what what

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is the significance of dt X?
By the way, I have a feeling

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das for Dallas, but it is
okay. Yeah, And if any of

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y'all in Dallas, Texas next weekend, we're playing a really awesome show.

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We're gonna be playing Bulgerfest at Halton
Theater with our friends and Vivid and Bulger

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and Manifestive Boris. It's gonna be
a really good show. Hey, y'all

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should definitely come out very cool,
very cool. And uh, thank you

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both so much, Perish and Bats. This has been great. I really

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enjoy talking with you guys. Like
I said, I love your music.

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We're gonna we're gonna end this track
with this track tradition. Anything we should

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know about this song. I do
like the title, so yeah, this

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song was actually written. I'm not
gonna I'm not gonna say no names,

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but okay, if you if anyone's
ever been in a relationship with a narcissist.

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It's it's kind of about getting away
from that and just you know,

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you know how much they can just
drag you down, you know, and

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that's kind of what the song's about
basically. Okay, well it's relatable.

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You know, everyone's been in that
situation at one point or another. So

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so great. So we're gonna give
this a listen. Guys, Thank you

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so much. Really, I really
loved having you on the show. And

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you've got new music coming so we
will definitely do this again in the not

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too distant future. But and we're
gonna play this track. But I really

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appreciate you guys joining us today.
Thank you both so much. Oh,

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thank you for having us. Yes, absolutely all right, Thanks guys,

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take care you too, Thank you, thank you. You got it all

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right. That was Parish and Billy. I'm sorry Parish and Bats. I

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see now I'm doing it from the
band Swarm and check this out. We're

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gonna listen to this and then we're
gonna come back, and uh, we've

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got a little bit more show to
go, so I've got one last thing

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to share with you all today afterward, But give this a spin. Give

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this a listen. I'm gonna give
it a spin, you give it a

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listen. This is called Tradition and
the band is Swarm