WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.760 --> 00:00:05.919 The following podcast is brought to you exclusively by the Rat Rob Radio Network. 2 00:00:09.039 --> 00:00:13.960 This is PBA Champion Kyle Troop and you're listening to Straight Up five with Johnny 3 00:00:14.039 --> 00:00:18.519 Patraklia Junior. As you know, JP Junior used to be introduced as a 4 00:00:18.600 --> 00:00:23.359 sexiest man in bowling and now the world. But he doesn't have the best 5 00:00:23.399 --> 00:00:26.879 hair in the world. I do, Sorry, Bud, but you know 6 00:00:26.960 --> 00:00:33.479 the deal. Pick it out, fear the frow Baby. Welcome to Straight 7 00:00:33.560 --> 00:00:41.320 Up A five, or a hard hitting, in depth, cutting edge look 8 00:00:41.479 --> 00:00:46.479 into the world of bowling. This podcast will not only cover all things bowling, 9 00:00:46.799 --> 00:00:51.679 but will also give you a raw look into real life issues. You'll 10 00:00:51.679 --> 00:00:57.359 get unfettered accepts into the mind of one of the most gifted bowlers of this 11 00:00:57.880 --> 00:01:07.959 or any other generation. So without further Ado, Let's introduce you to the 12 00:01:08.000 --> 00:01:15.200 hosts of the show, rad Rob, Rob, Francois, d Rob Rob 13 00:01:15.280 --> 00:01:26.000 Francis, doctor ochoctor Ojo and the incomparable Johnny Petraglia Junior. Johnny Patraglia Junior. 14 00:01:30.239 --> 00:01:33.280 Hey guys, looking back to Straight Up five with Johnny Patraglia Junior. 15 00:01:33.319 --> 00:01:36.879 This is episode number seventy six and I'm your host, rad Rob Rob francois 16 00:01:36.959 --> 00:01:38.280 joined by the Man with the mask, who's in a different room this week. 17 00:01:40.000 --> 00:01:42.760 I'm very curious to see where he is. He still has the largest 18 00:01:42.760 --> 00:01:47.840 guns on this show and quite possibly in all of Ochoville. It is one 19 00:01:47.840 --> 00:01:53.319 and only your favorite doctor Rocho. Good evening, sir, Same room. 20 00:01:53.480 --> 00:01:57.799 No, that's really no name room. That's so I'm like the wind. 21 00:01:57.799 --> 00:02:00.319 I like JP. He likes switch it up. I switch it up. 22 00:02:00.680 --> 00:02:05.200 You never know what you're gonna get. Some days it's a sleeveless shirt. 23 00:02:05.239 --> 00:02:07.439 Other days it's a sleeveless shirt. You just never know. Is there really 24 00:02:07.479 --> 00:02:12.719 the same room? Same room? Also joining us, it's the third man 25 00:02:12.800 --> 00:02:14.159 of the team. He's a man. The name of him my key. 26 00:02:14.199 --> 00:02:15.520 He's number seven in your heart to see his number. No, I already 27 00:02:15.520 --> 00:02:22.000 see sense. No it doesn't. Well, I already blew that. Well. 28 00:02:22.000 --> 00:02:24.280 You've been blowing a lot of things lately. Rob. Here is the 29 00:02:24.360 --> 00:02:29.719 sexiest man in the world. Andy de Free, Good evening, Andy, 30 00:02:30.400 --> 00:02:34.400 Oh, I hope you got out unscathed. The greatest movie ever. What's 31 00:02:34.479 --> 00:02:37.240 up, Johnny? Nothing? Mups? Guys, How are we doing tonight? 32 00:02:37.439 --> 00:02:39.759 Doing very well? How are you? Man? I'm doing just finding 33 00:02:39.840 --> 00:02:43.639 dandy. Well, we have a lot of it's starting it really hot out 34 00:02:43.680 --> 00:02:46.759 here in Vegas. Now we're almost in the hundreds. It's beginning to get 35 00:02:46.759 --> 00:02:52.039 fucking hot in Vegas. That's sure, as it's getting up there now. 36 00:02:52.080 --> 00:02:55.039 But it's still enjoyable. Just cook some steaks before I got on with you 37 00:02:55.080 --> 00:02:58.960 guys. What kind of steaks? Oh, I don't know. They were 38 00:02:59.080 --> 00:03:02.039 sick in there. From costs go, they were, That's why for about 39 00:03:02.400 --> 00:03:07.800 forty forty some odd minutes three eighty five they were delicious, nice, very 40 00:03:07.800 --> 00:03:09.560 good. Um, it's getting hot here too, but there's a lot of 41 00:03:09.599 --> 00:03:13.879 humidity here. So I know people say, oh, Vegas is a dry 42 00:03:13.919 --> 00:03:15.439 heat hot. It's fucking hot. I don't care what anybody say. It's 43 00:03:15.439 --> 00:03:19.560 like one hundred and something degrees. It's hot. True, it's a big 44 00:03:19.599 --> 00:03:23.000 difference. Oh, come on, humidity is things. I know you're a 45 00:03:23.039 --> 00:03:28.000 doctor, but you're you're not a weather person. I'm a weather doctor too. 46 00:03:28.039 --> 00:03:31.960 It's totally it's totally different. I mean, I've yes hot for so 47 00:03:32.159 --> 00:03:37.159 yeah. I mean it's a totally different kind of I won't say it is 48 00:03:37.319 --> 00:03:39.080 because of the dry heat is as much as people make fun of it, 49 00:03:39.120 --> 00:03:43.479 but like out here, you just don't sweat the way like when I would 50 00:03:43.520 --> 00:03:46.879 step out of the shower back home and it was hot. But let's say 51 00:03:46.879 --> 00:03:50.680 it was ninety degrees. When I'm done drying, I already have beads of 52 00:03:50.719 --> 00:03:53.039 sweat coming out of my arms. The showers don't take here. The issue 53 00:03:53.240 --> 00:04:00.560 is out there might actually stay dry. Look, a hundred degrees there is 54 00:04:00.560 --> 00:04:06.439 I would take that over eighty five and humidity here. Oh that's how much 55 00:04:06.439 --> 00:04:11.159 a difference it is. Yeah, it really, it really is a it's 56 00:04:11.159 --> 00:04:14.639 a completely different kind of heat. It's still fucking hot. Like if we're 57 00:04:14.680 --> 00:04:16.319 like, for instance, even now, like I'm playing I'm going to play 58 00:04:16.319 --> 00:04:21.160 golf tomorrow for the first time since last October some injury, and we're thwart 59 00:04:21.160 --> 00:04:25.600 seeing off at eight thirty and right around I would say the three hour mark 60 00:04:25.720 --> 00:04:29.240 is gonna be like the first test of okay, Like, so next week 61 00:04:29.240 --> 00:04:30.879 I'll definitely have way more of a ten because that's my first day out in 62 00:04:30.959 --> 00:04:34.680 the pools warm enough not actually go swimming, right, We'll good. It's 63 00:04:34.720 --> 00:04:40.000 really it's legalized prostitution out there to try heat. Nobody mentioned anything. It's 64 00:04:40.000 --> 00:04:44.759 the best thing out there. Definitely. Um, I was just gonna say 65 00:04:45.120 --> 00:04:48.959 my name reference here, Andy Dufrayden is because Andy was a you know, 66 00:04:49.120 --> 00:04:56.480 wrongfully imprisoned and so are a lot of awesome bowling balls per the new PBA 67 00:04:56.600 --> 00:05:00.560 rules. And I'm screty sure the will be people in the chat that have 68 00:05:00.600 --> 00:05:05.959 a lot of different ideas and feelings towards this, and I'm actually going to 69 00:05:06.000 --> 00:05:09.600 be more of an observer on this. I'll give my ten cents here and 70 00:05:09.639 --> 00:05:13.480 there, but I'm very curious. Um, if you guys are friends with 71 00:05:13.600 --> 00:05:18.480 Greg Tack online, he are on Facebook. He made a beautiful he wrote, 72 00:05:18.519 --> 00:05:24.199 wrote a beautiful, a beautiful letter to the PBA basically asking them, 73 00:05:24.199 --> 00:05:29.879 like just to provide some information to make it all. And meanwhile, here 74 00:05:29.920 --> 00:05:31.959 we are a week after having Troy, a senior US Open champion on the 75 00:05:31.959 --> 00:05:34.680 show, and we were actually discussing this very thing and about up being it 76 00:05:34.720 --> 00:05:39.160 pops up a week later speaking of which of champions in the hells Hello Troy, 77 00:05:39.240 --> 00:05:42.879 Hello, like Jones, Jeff Cox, Kyle mc A lot. I'm 78 00:05:42.879 --> 00:05:46.240 not liking these people calling us gentlemen either, Like this is a let's stay 79 00:05:46.360 --> 00:05:48.399 much to listen to Straight five. But we are not about that because it's 80 00:05:48.480 --> 00:05:53.839 borderline. I mean, it just depends what mood here in um let's not 81 00:05:53.879 --> 00:05:57.160 with a time. We're actually gonna get into the imbecile all the week. 82 00:05:58.160 --> 00:06:00.519 Oh well, wait a minute, hang on. I I don't know if 83 00:06:00.519 --> 00:06:04.240 you found somebody, But can I add an imbecile? Yes, yes, 84 00:06:04.560 --> 00:06:11.480 an imbecile of the week at an imbecile add If you want to do the 85 00:06:11.600 --> 00:06:15.279 imbecile intro first, go right ahead. I just want to get the actual 86 00:06:15.800 --> 00:06:20.000 grammar correct. Does it add an imbecile or add a imbecile imbecile? Are 87 00:06:20.040 --> 00:06:26.040 you sure it's it's an imbecile because imbecile starts with avowal add imbecile. That's 88 00:06:26.079 --> 00:06:30.959 really the rule. I had no idea. No, I had no idea. 89 00:06:30.560 --> 00:06:38.959 It's I think say something, yes, yeah you are an imbecile, 90 00:06:39.560 --> 00:06:42.759 not not you not mean I am, because I didn't obviously know anything about 91 00:06:42.800 --> 00:06:45.959 it, so I thought you were being facetious. And that's terrible. Because 92 00:06:46.000 --> 00:06:49.240 I jokingly say that all the time. I'll leave in type I'll type to 93 00:06:49.560 --> 00:06:56.160 quarantine lady like I need an apple, and I'll type you h eight because 94 00:06:56.160 --> 00:07:00.639 I hate when people talk like that. He needs to get over his tree 95 00:07:00.879 --> 00:07:03.519 problem. Chris Wilson, Hello, Yes, Russell, Good evening, Uh, 96 00:07:03.759 --> 00:07:06.519 Okay. Who would you like to add to the embascile of the week, 97 00:07:06.600 --> 00:07:15.360 Donny, the state of Iowa, Okay, and the state Iowa brilliant. 98 00:07:15.399 --> 00:07:19.439 I can't wait to hear the entire state for at least at least it's 99 00:07:19.519 --> 00:07:24.959 time for everybody's favorite segment. Hey, guys, don't audi a seat belt, 100 00:07:25.000 --> 00:07:27.240 just ring a call button and Tommy you'll come back there and hit here 101 00:07:27.240 --> 00:07:30.000 on ahead with attack hammers, you know, Lloyd. Just when I think 102 00:07:30.319 --> 00:07:35.600 you couldn't possibly be any dumber, here's the imbecile of the week. Some 103 00:07:35.800 --> 00:07:42.879 people are really stupid. Good evening, russ Uh. This week imbascile of 104 00:07:42.879 --> 00:07:46.879 the week. Imbeciles of the week actually hold money. Put an s on 105 00:07:46.199 --> 00:07:51.319 since I'm already being a grammar whore. The imbasciles of the week first One's 106 00:07:51.360 --> 00:07:54.240 my opinion, but I'm sure a lot of people are gonna say the same. 107 00:07:55.319 --> 00:08:01.759 The PBA and the entire state of Iowa. Everybody knows about the PBA 108 00:08:01.920 --> 00:08:05.000 thing, which we're gonna get to in depth here, but I do want 109 00:08:05.000 --> 00:08:09.920 to know why you want to add the poor, the poor, poorer patrons 110 00:08:09.959 --> 00:08:13.680 of Iowa. It must be a corn thing or something. There's been this 111 00:08:13.759 --> 00:08:18.800 ongoing issue when a professional bowler. Each state has its own recognizes its own 112 00:08:18.839 --> 00:08:22.839 hall of fame for its bowlers that have either contributed service in years to their 113 00:08:24.279 --> 00:08:28.160 organizations and such. You know, they compete in for instance, out here, 114 00:08:28.199 --> 00:08:33.399 if you compete in like ten to fifteen consecutive Nevada State Masters events you 115 00:08:33.519 --> 00:08:37.360 bowl, you're basically a local hero in the bowling community, is what you 116 00:08:37.399 --> 00:08:41.960 are. And the problem is a lot of professional bowlers don't get to compete 117 00:08:41.960 --> 00:08:46.960 in all those events because they're out, you know, earning their livings out 118 00:08:46.960 --> 00:08:50.919 on a PBA tour. And a lot of times what happens is a bowler 119 00:08:52.039 --> 00:08:56.440 that is more than capable or should one hundred percent be a member of their 120 00:08:56.440 --> 00:09:00.720 state's bowling Hall of Fame gets the snub, and they at the snub for 121 00:09:00.759 --> 00:09:03.960 what I just said, They just don't have enough time, tenure, whatever 122 00:09:03.960 --> 00:09:07.240 the fuck you want to call it, and a lot of the professional guys 123 00:09:07.279 --> 00:09:13.120 get get fucked. And here we have Urbandale. I was the state of 124 00:09:13.200 --> 00:09:20.279 i was greatest bowler, a PBA National Major champion, a multiple time PBA 125 00:09:20.399 --> 00:09:26.320 Senior Master's Champion, one of the voices of Bowl TV. Just a great 126 00:09:26.440 --> 00:09:31.159 fucking man in Tom And I'm talking about Tom Hess. And every year goes 127 00:09:31.200 --> 00:09:35.000 by, and when the election committee gets together, another year passes by and 128 00:09:35.039 --> 00:09:39.480 Tom Hess is not an Iowa State Hall of Famer. Tom Hess could eventually 129 00:09:39.519 --> 00:09:43.639 be a PBA Hall of Famer at some point. So I think that it's 130 00:09:43.639 --> 00:09:48.799 not the entire state of Iowa, but whatever election committee, and it just 131 00:09:48.080 --> 00:09:52.120 and I'm assuming other people get snubbed from other states, this was just one 132 00:09:52.240 --> 00:09:56.240 that was upfront and center for me. So I wanted to say fuck you 133 00:09:56.360 --> 00:10:03.799 Iowa for snub and Tom Hess again. And guys suck all right, Um, 134 00:10:03.879 --> 00:10:05.799 I mean that's fair. Tom Hats is great. I mean I'm a 135 00:10:05.799 --> 00:10:11.279 big Tom Hats fan. I as well. I love the trucks. I 136 00:10:11.360 --> 00:10:13.799 used to get one every Christmas. Yeah, no, they are great. 137 00:10:13.879 --> 00:10:18.159 They are great, Okay, certain well the football team that that he owned 138 00:10:18.279 --> 00:10:20.960 not so much. No no, no, no no no no, that's 139 00:10:20.960 --> 00:10:24.559 true. Um no, you're right about that, Johnny. And it doesn't 140 00:10:24.559 --> 00:10:28.240 make sense. But what actual hall of fame in any sport makes sense? 141 00:10:28.320 --> 00:10:33.000 Right? I Mean you could say the same thing about baseball and football, 142 00:10:33.039 --> 00:10:35.799 and and well, I mean nobody talking about hockey. How come nobody talks 143 00:10:35.840 --> 00:10:37.399 there about the Hockey Hall of Fame. How come no one's like, oh, 144 00:10:37.440 --> 00:10:41.799 man, I can't believe Pierre Turson got fucking snubbed. I mean, 145 00:10:41.879 --> 00:10:43.919 that's a great yea. You only really hear about the massive guys like Henrik 146 00:10:45.000 --> 00:10:48.279 Lungquist or right, yeah, I'm here, Yager. Yeah, Jil Hunter 147 00:10:48.399 --> 00:10:52.159 didn't wreck him in the ninety three playoffs. You know what, I would 148 00:10:52.159 --> 00:10:54.799 have maybe he would have had those extra points to get over the hump that 149 00:10:54.879 --> 00:11:01.600 Pierre turjons. It was actually the big suspension in NHL history at the time, 150 00:11:01.679 --> 00:11:05.159 twenty three games, I think, yes, the playoffs after a goal 151 00:11:05.759 --> 00:11:11.200 it was on the Capitols, I think Hunter, I think so. And 152 00:11:11.240 --> 00:11:13.799 then on the Islanders went and upset the Penguins, upset the Penguins would went 153 00:11:13.840 --> 00:11:16.639 back to back, they were favorites to win. They upset the Rangers, 154 00:11:16.679 --> 00:11:20.080 who had won the President's Trophy and Messier's first year in New York, and 155 00:11:20.320 --> 00:11:24.840 Adam Graves breaks freaking Lemieu's wrist on a on a slash and then Pittsburgh comes 156 00:11:24.879 --> 00:11:28.200 back wins four games to two and then they lose to the Aisles four games 157 00:11:28.200 --> 00:11:33.039 to two. Glenn Healey stug Glenn healely in the in the in the circle. 158 00:11:33.360 --> 00:11:37.120 Fucking guy. Anyways, I think I wasn't the legend legend Ian lying 159 00:11:37.120 --> 00:11:39.919 in the house, what's up? And now just looking at the chat, 160 00:11:41.039 --> 00:11:43.600 now we have Ian Troy and Rad Rob. So I'm now the fourth best 161 00:11:43.679 --> 00:11:48.279 lefty on this show. This is good. Just keep on going down and 162 00:11:48.360 --> 00:11:54.399 I'm going to get better if I get that new by the way real quick. 163 00:11:54.559 --> 00:11:58.440 Just to defeat off the tom messting. What Steph just said, Hutches 164 00:11:58.519 --> 00:12:03.399 Joe Hutchinson their PBA champion, and he's like, Jesus, I think hutches 165 00:12:03.519 --> 00:12:07.120 my dad's age and what's up? Kembo? Um, but that's another guy. 166 00:12:07.120 --> 00:12:09.399 And she said that he just got inducted this year. Joe was a 167 00:12:09.399 --> 00:12:13.200 Hall of Famer in like nineteen eighty. No, I mean, that's that's 168 00:12:13.240 --> 00:12:16.320 crazy. But god, they eventually got him in, but holy shit, 169 00:12:16.519 --> 00:12:20.080 God, that's crazy to think that because he was a local legend while he 170 00:12:20.159 --> 00:12:24.799 was also bowling on tour. So that doesn't really make much sense to me 171 00:12:24.840 --> 00:12:28.279 either. Well, what else it doesn't make sense? Well, I mean, 172 00:12:28.399 --> 00:12:30.840 it doesn't make sense depending on which side of the fence you are. 173 00:12:31.039 --> 00:12:35.799 Is the PBA coming out which everyone's talking about it coming out with their twenty 174 00:12:35.960 --> 00:12:39.679 twenty three hardness report, and this in fact, we're talking about hardness and 175 00:12:39.720 --> 00:12:43.000 purple hammers. I mean, oh, there's got to be a joke in 176 00:12:43.039 --> 00:12:48.879 there somewhere. M I listened, that's I was. I'm curious what people 177 00:12:48.879 --> 00:12:52.720 in the chat have to say about it. It's it's obviously, so what 178 00:12:52.759 --> 00:12:56.320 are they saying now? It's got to be labeled like currently the equipment for 179 00:12:56.399 --> 00:13:00.320 next year has got to be past a certain date in twenty twenty two in 180 00:13:00.440 --> 00:13:03.679 order to be considered legal. And they're considering raising the hardness to say a 181 00:13:03.759 --> 00:13:09.039 seventy eight standard over a seventy three. Correct no ball can be manufactured on 182 00:13:09.279 --> 00:13:11.240 or after eight one, twenty twenty two. That will ensure that all the 183 00:13:11.279 --> 00:13:16.039 balls on the national Tour will be made at a minimum of seventy three hardness. 184 00:13:18.159 --> 00:13:20.399 You know, I'm keeping it at that year or they each year? 185 00:13:20.440 --> 00:13:22.639 Are they going to the next year though? Like, are they you know 186 00:13:22.679 --> 00:13:24.919 what I'm saying, Are they bringing the year up with it or are they 187 00:13:24.000 --> 00:13:28.200 keeping that year twenty twenty two, and then it stays at twenty twenty two 188 00:13:28.240 --> 00:13:33.000 and then their subsequent years before they're gonna change it again. Well that's that'll 189 00:13:33.000 --> 00:13:37.039 most likely happen. But you're correct, Thoach. They have to change. 190 00:13:37.080 --> 00:13:39.759 It's like this coming season, the twenty twenty four season. It will have 191 00:13:39.799 --> 00:13:45.600 to be manufactured after twenty two, and then so on and so forth, 192 00:13:45.759 --> 00:13:50.759 which was one of the comments in Greg in what Greg said. Because here's 193 00:13:50.759 --> 00:13:52.559 the thing. I'll give a couple comparisons here, and then I want you 194 00:13:52.559 --> 00:13:56.519 guys to feed off this because again I'm like, I'm teetering here because this 195 00:13:56.600 --> 00:14:03.519 is this fucks people like I mean, I'm just gonna say it. This 196 00:14:03.519 --> 00:14:07.480 this could screw certain bowlers. It could. But the thing about it is 197 00:14:07.480 --> 00:14:13.600 is it's kind of screwing the future of the sport indefinitely. Here, let 198 00:14:13.639 --> 00:14:18.120 me make this comparison. And when you play college baseball, they use metal 199 00:14:18.159 --> 00:14:22.720 bats, right, and then you have to learn how to use wooden bats 200 00:14:24.000 --> 00:14:26.399 once you make it to either single, double, triple A, and obviously 201 00:14:26.399 --> 00:14:31.519 the majors, right, So the you really have to be a stud in 202 00:14:31.559 --> 00:14:37.799 the metal bat baseball world. In order to be a stud when you go 203 00:14:37.960 --> 00:14:41.120 to wood because you're taking you're taking a tool away. That makes the game 204 00:14:41.200 --> 00:14:46.200 a lot simpler in that respect, once you get away from from the metal 205 00:14:46.240 --> 00:14:52.200 bats. What what I think the problem of the timing of this is is 206 00:14:52.320 --> 00:14:58.679 for the aspiring youth. Jason Delmonti has swung an entire generation of two handers 207 00:14:58.759 --> 00:15:05.080 and You're a Thing has contributed to a lot of the way the game is 208 00:15:05.120 --> 00:15:09.519 played now. So let's say you take these kids now they're in the ages 209 00:15:09.559 --> 00:15:13.519 of say between I don't know, ten years old and like eighteen nineteen, 210 00:15:13.519 --> 00:15:18.000 getting to the point where they're considering going to college or try the tour or 211 00:15:18.039 --> 00:15:24.240 the TQRS. Their entire lives, they've been born and bread to play the 212 00:15:24.240 --> 00:15:26.559 euro Thane game, to play the instant hook at the foul line, with 213 00:15:26.639 --> 00:15:31.200 the slowing down motion down lane base kids, Now all of a sudden, 214 00:15:31.279 --> 00:15:37.440 it's you're ripping all of their their aspirations out by eliminating the tools that they've 215 00:15:37.480 --> 00:15:45.240 grown up learning how to use. And I think that it's it's so shitty 216 00:15:45.320 --> 00:15:48.960 for the young I think the guys on tour will manager to adapt, especially 217 00:15:48.960 --> 00:15:52.039 the successful guys on Tour, because they have the backing of the ball manufacturers. 218 00:15:52.039 --> 00:15:56.000 They can get balls at free will, but other people trying to make 219 00:15:56.039 --> 00:15:58.639 it out there that aren't contracted. I mean, shit, if you show 220 00:15:58.720 --> 00:16:02.559 up to a tournament now and they brand they announced that your ball is too 221 00:16:02.600 --> 00:16:04.559 soft, they take it and confiscate, and then you got to pay for 222 00:16:04.600 --> 00:16:07.120 a new one. It's not like you can just go out to the truck 223 00:16:07.120 --> 00:16:11.399 because you're still a lot of these guys are not contracted. So it also 224 00:16:11.840 --> 00:16:18.320 inhibits a lot of bowlers in the financial aspect. I think, and do 225 00:16:18.399 --> 00:16:26.399 I understand that one manufacturer happens to have the only ball in bowling history that 226 00:16:26.519 --> 00:16:30.879 has ever been the center of attention when it comes to banning equipment. There 227 00:16:30.879 --> 00:16:33.960 were balls that we knew, yeah, okay if they were soft, or 228 00:16:33.000 --> 00:16:37.960 there was oh shit when the Excalibur came out, but they never anything other 229 00:16:38.000 --> 00:16:42.000 than the LT forty eight, the rubber one. There were like, let's 230 00:16:42.000 --> 00:16:45.879 say, a blue dot, but there was never really a bowling ball that 231 00:16:47.000 --> 00:16:52.279 was that outperformed every other piece to a point that they actually want to take 232 00:16:52.320 --> 00:16:56.840 it off of the market. And this is a very very We're talking about 233 00:16:56.879 --> 00:17:02.120 the Purple Hammer, and this has been an ongoing thing. We spoke with 234 00:17:02.159 --> 00:17:07.240 it with Troy. We've seen Sean Rash's comments about integrity in the past about 235 00:17:07.279 --> 00:17:11.039 it. We've we've seen what the ball does to the sport and what it 236 00:17:11.119 --> 00:17:15.279 does for a lot of bowlers. So I'm curious. I know it's a 237 00:17:15.319 --> 00:17:17.759 little bit along of a rant there, and I'm sorry for that. I 238 00:17:18.000 --> 00:17:21.359 ty and good to see you. And what do you guys think about this? 239 00:17:21.599 --> 00:17:25.839 Because again, this is only at PBA level, the regional tour, 240 00:17:26.359 --> 00:17:29.440 this is all that kind of stuff. So this is not like you could 241 00:17:29.440 --> 00:17:33.720 still go bowl leer leagues. You can go to USBC Championships and still use 242 00:17:33.799 --> 00:17:37.440 your regular stuff. But this is for you're now telling the aspiring batch of 243 00:17:37.480 --> 00:17:41.039 bowlers that are trying to come out on tour. Oh, by the way, 244 00:17:41.079 --> 00:17:44.039 guys, everything you've learned for the last ten years of your life, 245 00:17:44.119 --> 00:17:45.839 don't worry about that because you can't do that anymore. Well, JP, 246 00:17:45.960 --> 00:17:52.200 to take your example with baseball, then, I mean there's no data. 247 00:17:52.400 --> 00:17:56.359 I don't think to say that the ball is too good, you know what 248 00:17:56.440 --> 00:18:00.519 I mean? Like they outperform. I get didn't people use it it's more 249 00:18:00.519 --> 00:18:07.920 popular, but like I feel like it would almost be like saying, Okay, 250 00:18:07.960 --> 00:18:11.799 you're now allowed to use aluminum bats in the majors and then taking aluminum 251 00:18:11.839 --> 00:18:15.200 bats away. I'm trying to think of another comparison. It's not a shot 252 00:18:15.240 --> 00:18:19.519 against the bowling ball. Did they make the bowling ball too good? Is 253 00:18:19.519 --> 00:18:25.240 that a possible thing? And I'm talking amateurs thinking you know what I mean, 254 00:18:25.240 --> 00:18:27.839 because I don't know the specs of it. It's a bowling ball that 255 00:18:27.920 --> 00:18:33.119 can be used by any person at any time on virtually any oil pattern. 256 00:18:33.680 --> 00:18:37.200 There is never a time that that ball is not in play. Why hasn't 257 00:18:37.240 --> 00:18:42.599 this happened before? I don't really know. It's just like, I mean, 258 00:18:42.640 --> 00:18:47.319 that's the dogs at He doesn't know either. He's pissed off. But 259 00:18:47.359 --> 00:18:52.920 that's so I'm trying to look at it from a is it is it too 260 00:18:52.960 --> 00:18:56.279 good? Is it? Did they did? It's it's under all the specs. 261 00:18:56.319 --> 00:18:59.480 We get that almost like as if the seams were a little too high 262 00:18:59.559 --> 00:19:03.119 on the jor League baseball, And now these pitchers get such a good grip 263 00:19:03.519 --> 00:19:07.640 that they're throwing freaking their spin rates through the roof. But then they say, 264 00:19:07.680 --> 00:19:11.119 shoot, let's bring the seams down a little bit again, and I'm 265 00:19:11.839 --> 00:19:15.960 also I'm trying to cross sport it too to to give an example of what 266 00:19:15.000 --> 00:19:18.359 it would be like if it was a different sport and what anomaly they'd have 267 00:19:18.720 --> 00:19:23.240 if something was literally too good for people to use, where I guess steroids 268 00:19:23.319 --> 00:19:27.920 might be the anomaly. And you know, here's here's the thing. Most 269 00:19:27.920 --> 00:19:33.079 of the people that have success on the national tour that throw eurothane have higher 270 00:19:33.079 --> 00:19:36.559 revates. Now that's not to say guys that don't have higher rev rates aren't. 271 00:19:36.920 --> 00:19:38.839 Darren Tang is one of the best bowlers I've ever seen with eurothane. 272 00:19:40.400 --> 00:19:42.839 He's obviously a way different bowler than a Simo or a Belmo. Right, 273 00:19:44.759 --> 00:19:48.920 um, Russ brought up a good one there. Maybe a belly putter? 274 00:19:48.000 --> 00:19:51.480 Is that what you were going kind of? Right? Maybe like that, 275 00:19:51.559 --> 00:19:53.960 like we're we're something. You have an anchor. Now, my god, 276 00:19:55.319 --> 00:20:00.480 it's yeah. I guess what I'm trying to say here is if let's say 277 00:20:00.519 --> 00:20:03.799 they increase the specs to say, seventy eight hardness, I think that would 278 00:20:03.799 --> 00:20:08.480 be awesome. I don't because you're a thing. If anything had had a 279 00:20:08.559 --> 00:20:11.880 higher hardness level would go a little bit straighter, wouldn't it. It wouldn't 280 00:20:11.960 --> 00:20:17.359 hug as much. Maybe, I mean I personally, I hope they make 281 00:20:17.440 --> 00:20:22.240 the hardness level seventy eight for all balls because the higher resin you know, 282 00:20:22.440 --> 00:20:25.839 you're more in play with the higher reverate. Guy also then still right keeps 283 00:20:25.839 --> 00:20:30.200 you from it's now over hook. Ever, a lot of people are making 284 00:20:30.279 --> 00:20:33.039 good comments over here. Number one. I like what Troy said about it's 285 00:20:33.079 --> 00:20:36.559 time to be more old school and hit what you're looking at more. Because 286 00:20:36.680 --> 00:20:40.480 yes, balls like the Purple Hammer and the pitch black, let's not forget 287 00:20:40.519 --> 00:20:42.359 about the pitch balls. Gonna say the pitch black, I mean it doesn't 288 00:20:42.400 --> 00:20:47.559 have as many It hasn't been called into question as many times as the Purple 289 00:20:47.640 --> 00:20:51.160 Hammer, the old the Old Purples, the New Paples, Purples, Hopkinsville 290 00:20:51.160 --> 00:20:53.200 cons It doesn't matter where Troop is winning with the pitch black. Obviously, 291 00:20:53.839 --> 00:20:57.799 Belmo wins with, I mean it's a great it's another fantastic you're a thing 292 00:20:57.920 --> 00:21:03.200 ball. Here's where it gets chee though, um, I don't And going 293 00:21:03.279 --> 00:21:07.319 to Jad's comment, I don't know that the Purple Hammer softens more than any 294 00:21:07.400 --> 00:21:11.720 other ball. They try, and some people try and say it does. 295 00:21:11.839 --> 00:21:15.119 Other people say it doesn't. That's what I start about with the data too, 296 00:21:15.319 --> 00:21:18.680 Like there is data that says here's why it shouldn't be used. Right, 297 00:21:19.200 --> 00:21:25.480 they say after ten uses that the ball drops that much in softness or 298 00:21:25.559 --> 00:21:30.319 hardness, and this and now again I'm I'm feeding off comments here because going 299 00:21:30.400 --> 00:21:33.160 to Jeff. Now, Jeff says, do you think maybe Storm Products may 300 00:21:33.200 --> 00:21:34.920 have complained that the balls of Brunswick are better in their staff first, can't 301 00:21:34.920 --> 00:21:37.960 compete? Actually read read a book they have there too. That's a good 302 00:21:38.000 --> 00:21:41.640 idea. That's what we thought when we brow this up months ago, right, 303 00:21:41.720 --> 00:21:45.359 I mean when the USBC did their own thing. But that fits in 304 00:21:45.480 --> 00:21:48.319 with what Jason said. The pitch Blacks have won more titles than the Purple 305 00:21:48.400 --> 00:21:53.839 Hammers what they have. And that's what I guess I don't understand is it's 306 00:21:53.920 --> 00:21:59.000 not like Storm doesn't have a good Eurothine piece. They've had several good Eurothine 307 00:21:59.039 --> 00:22:03.400 pieces and they still But it was a lot of the Storm staffers that were 308 00:22:03.480 --> 00:22:07.319 the most vocal about it, and bigger guns in the bowling industry, so 309 00:22:07.440 --> 00:22:10.839 that could very well have something to do with it. Can I make an 310 00:22:10.880 --> 00:22:15.759 observation? Yeah? Please? And nothing against Troy or Packy or you know, 311 00:22:15.799 --> 00:22:18.000 any guys like that. But we wouldn't see them many lefties up there 312 00:22:18.039 --> 00:22:22.880 if there wasn't the purple hammer. Well, I'm very interested to see what 313 00:22:22.000 --> 00:22:26.400 happens now when it's not there, right, because if we can't use a 314 00:22:26.480 --> 00:22:30.599 purple hammer, it's it goes back to that there's gonna be weeks that lefties 315 00:22:30.640 --> 00:22:33.480 whack them, and there's gonna be weeks that lefties don't whack them, depending 316 00:22:33.519 --> 00:22:37.200 on the pattern right, especially now because they've gotten so advanced with the oil 317 00:22:37.279 --> 00:22:41.680 conditions and the offsetting of the patterns and where they put the speed bumps, 318 00:22:42.000 --> 00:22:45.519 it'll be it'll will go back to the Mike Scroggins, Chris Hayden, era, 319 00:22:45.839 --> 00:22:52.160 Rick Lawrence. You'll need to literally throw the ball at the headpin with 320 00:22:52.240 --> 00:22:56.000 as little revere as possible. Seemingly another guy that another guy that Rush just 321 00:22:56.039 --> 00:23:00.480 brought up that this is now granted, Jacobs is a sensational player, and 322 00:23:00.599 --> 00:23:04.559 that's the thing that we're missing with all these are all sensational lefties. Jason 323 00:23:04.640 --> 00:23:08.119 Couch didn't just wake up five years ago and say I'm going to throw purple 324 00:23:08.200 --> 00:23:12.559 hammers and be the great, great senior player Jason Couch kicked everybody's ass with 325 00:23:12.640 --> 00:23:18.559 resin for twenty fucking years. The purple hammer, what it does is it 326 00:23:18.640 --> 00:23:22.279 allows bowlers to relax, and when you relax and you can stay in stroke, 327 00:23:22.599 --> 00:23:26.359 you throw more strikes. And because there's less traffic on the left side 328 00:23:26.359 --> 00:23:30.720 of the lane, we only have to deal with if anything, maybe one 329 00:23:30.799 --> 00:23:34.799 other guys carry down. And because we can predominantly throw purple hammers on anything, 330 00:23:36.680 --> 00:23:38.400 we pretty much know the tendencies, which is why we drill three or 331 00:23:38.440 --> 00:23:42.680 four of them now to fill those voids when they happen when they come around. 332 00:23:44.119 --> 00:23:48.200 And again, I'm not making comments about guys like Hayden and Lawrence and 333 00:23:48.240 --> 00:23:52.119 Scroggins not being great a players, but what I am flat out saying is 334 00:23:52.200 --> 00:23:57.319 that if this does happen, their games now become way better than games of 335 00:23:57.839 --> 00:24:03.160 yesper butters. You'll see Ryan Simonelli makes some shows again. Parker I think 336 00:24:03.160 --> 00:24:07.440 will actually start bowling a little bit better, even on the regular tour. 337 00:24:07.519 --> 00:24:11.519 And there's a lot of things that can happen, but I don't I honestly 338 00:24:11.680 --> 00:24:15.039 don't know how. The last thing I wanted to say about the earthing is 339 00:24:15.119 --> 00:24:21.559 what happens with motive. Because Motive makes eurothane and calls it micro cell polymer. 340 00:24:21.640 --> 00:24:23.400 There may be some different editive chemicals in there, but the base is 341 00:24:23.440 --> 00:24:27.640 still yourthinge the base of the bowling ball is still something that's in question. 342 00:24:27.759 --> 00:24:33.240 Does that mean you eliminate all of the motive tanks? Do you eliminate they 343 00:24:33.279 --> 00:24:37.400 would all have to go? You can't. And if they turn around they 344 00:24:37.480 --> 00:24:41.480 figure out a way to say that only the Purple Hammer gets extinct, then 345 00:24:41.519 --> 00:24:45.519 I've lost as much respect for the PBA as I would already have the USBC. 346 00:24:45.799 --> 00:24:48.200 Well. Jeff Skiers mentioned earlier that the Swag Buffalo erothane has an eighty 347 00:24:48.240 --> 00:24:52.359 one hardness, and a lot of people in the threads and everything in the 348 00:24:52.359 --> 00:24:55.079 Facebook groups are saying the same thing, that that may be the only ball 349 00:24:55.160 --> 00:24:59.359 that's that's that hard And we don't have data onhe ball because I don't think 350 00:24:59.359 --> 00:25:03.720 anybody that people use it to know if the hardness drops after a certain amount 351 00:25:03.720 --> 00:25:07.119 of uses, say with the Pitch Black or any other earthane ball, what 352 00:25:07.240 --> 00:25:10.279 are the stats on those balls? That's what I want to know. Yeah, 353 00:25:11.200 --> 00:25:15.440 for sure, motive tanks from the list of your thing like, yeah, 354 00:25:17.559 --> 00:25:19.519 you're a thing. Like explain that one too, because they made that 355 00:25:19.640 --> 00:25:22.480 part of the role. As we see umblow, you're a thane, Like 356 00:25:25.039 --> 00:25:29.960 yeah, so like you're a thane like it. Micro cell polymer is motives 357 00:25:30.359 --> 00:25:34.799 pitch. It's it's their branding of their product differentiate it from a standard eurothane. 358 00:25:36.599 --> 00:25:40.160 It still rolls like a eurothane ball because that's what it is, but 359 00:25:40.440 --> 00:25:44.200 it's it's just Yeah, I saw Jr's video on that buffalo by the way, 360 00:25:44.440 --> 00:25:48.079 and like I said, I just think that personally, I just think 361 00:25:48.119 --> 00:25:53.240 that it's it's a people walking through the woods with axes and like flames and 362 00:25:53.279 --> 00:25:56.160 shit on torches, just trying to get this. The people that can't throw 363 00:25:56.200 --> 00:26:00.359 the purple hammer have to hate the purple hammer. I hated the purple hammerd 364 00:26:00.359 --> 00:26:03.920 before runs were acquired hammer and Abnit. I hated it because I couldn't throw 365 00:26:04.000 --> 00:26:08.400 it. The first ball I drilled when I was allowed to drill their products, 366 00:26:08.759 --> 00:26:15.000 I actually begged my rep to allow me to drill a twenty eighteen, 367 00:26:15.119 --> 00:26:18.799 twenty nineteen purple hammer. And you wait, and you had told us this 368 00:26:18.039 --> 00:26:22.039 also, so this is this is not a lie. He's not telling it 369 00:26:22.119 --> 00:26:26.319 for the story. He'd actually mentioned this about five months ago on a different 370 00:26:26.359 --> 00:26:30.200 show. So this is a full truth and unfettered John, Good to see 371 00:26:30.240 --> 00:26:37.799 you. I believe if Shannon Pluhowski won this year, that she was throwing 372 00:26:37.839 --> 00:26:41.240 a purple hammer. If or even if she finished second, I know she 373 00:26:41.400 --> 00:26:44.880 was throwing it on the show. I don't know if she won. I 374 00:26:45.000 --> 00:26:48.759 haven't seen any ladies win with a pitch black. It's a it's a different 375 00:26:48.799 --> 00:26:55.559 game out on the Ladies Tour. It's first off, they're all I'm saying 376 00:26:55.599 --> 00:27:00.039 this because they're smarter than the men. In other words, they their physical 377 00:27:00.119 --> 00:27:03.119 games and what they do. They're always very close to each other. You 378 00:27:03.200 --> 00:27:07.240 don't usually have one chunk of people trying to play in while a chunk are 379 00:27:07.279 --> 00:27:11.519 trying to play the gutter. The women are typically more sounds, They have 380 00:27:11.640 --> 00:27:15.480 lower reverates, they have gentler ball speeds. They don't really need your You 381 00:27:15.519 --> 00:27:19.240 don't have the same the same area of play that they need to because they're 382 00:27:19.279 --> 00:27:22.799 not going to be as successful. They're trying to swing it when the pattern 383 00:27:22.880 --> 00:27:26.240 calls were playing and around ten or something like that. Right, It's rare 384 00:27:26.359 --> 00:27:32.119 to see women like say Jordan Richard or the ones that get are Brianna Klemmer 385 00:27:32.200 --> 00:27:36.079 that really get on at the bottom. But yeah, they're like when Michelle 386 00:27:36.119 --> 00:27:37.400 Feldman was out there, she was the only one that did it. I 387 00:27:37.480 --> 00:27:41.480 mean, the closest one the hooking it like Michelle Feldman was Leanne Barrett now 388 00:27:41.599 --> 00:27:47.160 Leanne Hulsenberg like there was. But most of them are traditional track players, 389 00:27:47.279 --> 00:27:52.119 gutter players you like Danielle McEwen, like Maria Rodriguez, like Clara Guerrero, 390 00:27:52.680 --> 00:27:56.960 And they're always somewhere in the same zone, doing virtually the same thing, 391 00:27:56.039 --> 00:28:00.559 and they construct lanes a little bit better than the men. Kind have gotten 392 00:28:00.599 --> 00:28:03.000 better at it. You don't see as many guys going out to left field 393 00:28:03.039 --> 00:28:07.160 while the other guys are still trying to play, say fifteen um choco. 394 00:28:07.400 --> 00:28:11.680 Yeah, I can't again, man, I can't think of uh, I 395 00:28:11.799 --> 00:28:14.400 can't think of anybody. Tell you the truth. That was a great question, 396 00:28:15.240 --> 00:28:17.920 Johnny. Do you want me to read but Chris, Chris did confirm 397 00:28:18.039 --> 00:28:19.759 that that Shannon did win. Thank you, Chris. Do you want to 398 00:28:19.799 --> 00:28:26.359 read the statement from Brunswick? Uh? So? You mean, yeah, 399 00:28:26.440 --> 00:28:30.359 it's all over social media so you can share this was this was sent out 400 00:28:30.519 --> 00:28:36.799 to uh, the Brunswick staffers and Lou. Actually I don't know if if 401 00:28:36.839 --> 00:28:38.440 we're allowed to share, I mean, do the PBA one and that's it 402 00:28:38.559 --> 00:28:41.759 and then like, don't know, that's kind of like that was to you, 403 00:28:41.039 --> 00:28:44.039 right, I was just I didn't want to jump in, but that 404 00:28:44.200 --> 00:28:45.880 was it does say to our friends in the bowling community. So I don't 405 00:28:45.880 --> 00:28:49.759 know if there was a public press release or not. Well it was sent 406 00:28:49.880 --> 00:28:56.160 directly to us you, um, but basically, I mean it's it's already 407 00:28:57.240 --> 00:29:00.759 I mean I got it off the Facebook. I just can't remember if it 408 00:29:00.880 --> 00:29:04.200 was in a private chat or not. Steph, Steph, we're not so 409 00:29:04.440 --> 00:29:07.400 stop, Okay, yeah, we can't read this one. Okay, I 410 00:29:07.480 --> 00:29:10.240 just want to make sure. I just got to saved by my best friend. 411 00:29:11.160 --> 00:29:17.119 Basically, all I'll tell you is it's it's in response to in lieu 412 00:29:17.200 --> 00:29:18.640 of what's about to happen. It was just kind of a you know what 413 00:29:19.240 --> 00:29:22.799 a family does, just kind of protecting and keeping us aware of what could 414 00:29:22.880 --> 00:29:27.720 be in Lou and then what could be happening. So that's but the PBA 415 00:29:27.839 --> 00:29:33.680 one is is an awfully long read. I don't want to there's about what 416 00:29:33.839 --> 00:29:37.559 I did like about the PBA's post is like what I don't like about the 417 00:29:37.680 --> 00:29:42.079 USBC is they were at least diligent. They took their time to put together 418 00:29:42.160 --> 00:29:45.720 their press release. They tried to cover every single base about it. They 419 00:29:45.799 --> 00:29:49.119 tried to offer a variety of different options of what they can or can't do, 420 00:29:49.319 --> 00:29:52.519 like do we ban them all? Do and make the hardness limits seventy 421 00:29:52.559 --> 00:29:56.359 eight for everything? Do we do this? Do we grandfather? And they 422 00:29:56.480 --> 00:30:00.680 tried to give and paint every single scenario they possibly could. And I thought 423 00:30:00.759 --> 00:30:04.960 that was admirable. I thought that was cool. I don't like the basis 424 00:30:06.079 --> 00:30:07.799 of it. I mean, how can't I How can I like it? 425 00:30:07.839 --> 00:30:12.079 I'm a lefty that doesn't use my thumb, so now, like my play 426 00:30:12.480 --> 00:30:15.480 is okay, So if they take that away, maybe I just drill a 427 00:30:15.599 --> 00:30:19.680 bunch of spies. I'll go into Dad's garage, drill some more rubber lts 428 00:30:21.440 --> 00:30:23.440 or like, because those are not You're a thane at all, right, 429 00:30:25.400 --> 00:30:27.920 So maybe I can try and do the same thing with those bowing balls. 430 00:30:29.039 --> 00:30:32.759 Did you see Butter's post? He had a picture of a spy with like 431 00:30:33.160 --> 00:30:37.079 one hundred pad He's gonna hit it with it was pretty funny. It's well, 432 00:30:37.200 --> 00:30:40.559 that's already I'm telling you right now, that's what everybody is already thinking. 433 00:30:40.599 --> 00:30:42.440 They're all trying to figure out how to create the same motion. You'll 434 00:30:42.440 --> 00:30:48.039 see, yes, per Spencin throwing a lot more plastic you'll see and again 435 00:30:48.160 --> 00:30:52.759 it's it's gonna all to the game again completely crown jewels, cock crowdjewels, 436 00:30:52.799 --> 00:30:55.839 gonna be a strike ball. Yeah. I love that ball, I really 437 00:30:55.880 --> 00:31:00.000 do. Yeah. It's like to me, the fact that it's only the 438 00:31:00.079 --> 00:31:04.480 National Tour is cool, right as long doesn't go into the Senior Tour or 439 00:31:04.799 --> 00:31:07.160 you know, the regional tour, because then you're gonna affect a lot of 440 00:31:07.160 --> 00:31:14.519 people that wouldn't normally it is in the regional tour, no national, PBA 441 00:31:14.680 --> 00:31:18.599 fifty and standard, and really, yeah, this is not that that that 442 00:31:18.759 --> 00:31:22.319 was the whole thing when I said earlier about Greg Tack. Greg Tach has 443 00:31:22.359 --> 00:31:25.880 a full time job. He bowls a couple of tour stops, he bowls 444 00:31:25.920 --> 00:31:29.680 the World Series, he bowls a regional every single weekend. He's the kind 445 00:31:29.720 --> 00:31:32.960 he's one of those guys high sherry. He's one of those guys that is 446 00:31:33.119 --> 00:31:37.559 not staffed. He's one of the guys that is aspiring to be out there 447 00:31:37.559 --> 00:31:41.640 a little bit more, and he's gonna it's gonna cost him a lot more 448 00:31:41.720 --> 00:31:44.720 money because you have to renew your equipment every single year now or every two 449 00:31:44.799 --> 00:31:48.880 years now. And we if you hear a bowler that pays for bowling balls, 450 00:31:48.920 --> 00:31:52.839 that ain't no they ain't no chicken feed now nowadays, if you've got 451 00:31:52.920 --> 00:31:56.039 an interchangeable thumble grips and you're buying the high end ball in the wall, 452 00:31:56.079 --> 00:31:57.359 even if you get at this count, you're looking upwards a two hundred and 453 00:31:57.359 --> 00:32:02.400 fifty bucks now and on tour, shit, you need ten twelve bowling balls 454 00:32:02.519 --> 00:32:09.680 at all times. This is and we are a white collar monetary sport that 455 00:32:09.839 --> 00:32:14.880 only pays blue collar you know, like at least in golf, and you 456 00:32:14.960 --> 00:32:16.480 have to go out and buy a five hundred dollar driver. Not only does 457 00:32:16.519 --> 00:32:22.000 it last for a year longer if you love it, but like you get 458 00:32:22.079 --> 00:32:24.200 your golf is an expensive sport that if you make it to the pinnacle, 459 00:32:24.680 --> 00:32:30.839 you're a millionaire, right at least like the risk drivers at least, so 460 00:32:30.920 --> 00:32:32.359 you don't have to worry about it. I mean, a regional if you 461 00:32:32.440 --> 00:32:36.680 go and you win a regional, it pays you fifteen hundred bucks after you 462 00:32:36.759 --> 00:32:40.440 subtract food and where you stayed for the two days in fucking mid County, 463 00:32:40.519 --> 00:32:45.079 Delaware or wherever the hell it is that you're in. Um, how much 464 00:32:45.119 --> 00:32:47.400 money are you really making? Even the Nike Tour pays like a one hundred 465 00:32:47.440 --> 00:32:51.319 grant? What is the what is it called? What's the everyone's called the 466 00:32:51.359 --> 00:32:53.319 buy dot Com Tour? Then it was the Nike Tour. Whatever the it's 467 00:32:53.359 --> 00:32:59.119 like the regionals for golf. It was it's like the no clue. Huh, 468 00:32:59.200 --> 00:33:04.200 nobody talking to me? Yes, sorry, anybody, it wasn't listening. 469 00:33:04.480 --> 00:33:07.119 What is it? What is it called the like the golf because I'm 470 00:33:07.160 --> 00:33:09.920 saying like at least even like tour is it's still called the Nike Tour. 471 00:33:10.039 --> 00:33:14.039 So they I think ninety grand or a hundred grand for a winner and if 472 00:33:14.079 --> 00:33:17.559 and if you win three straight tournaments you bounce up to it, you you 473 00:33:17.640 --> 00:33:22.359 get an exempt what Rush said? Yeah, so it used to be I 474 00:33:22.400 --> 00:33:25.640 think was the Nike Tour is not the corn Ferry Tour used to be called 475 00:33:25.720 --> 00:33:29.440 something differently, it was the Buy dot Com Tour or something like that. 476 00:33:30.039 --> 00:33:31.920 Yeah, there was, there was a name before the corn Ferry that they 477 00:33:32.079 --> 00:33:37.559 used. But the Nike Tour also, Um, that's and I know that. 478 00:33:37.559 --> 00:33:42.160 I think they change the the the the Champions Tour is no longer called 479 00:33:42.200 --> 00:33:45.400 the Champions Tour for the seniors, if I'm not mistaken. But yeah, 480 00:33:45.480 --> 00:33:51.960 the the minver name like PA PGA fifty. Did they that's sorry, web 481 00:33:52.000 --> 00:33:54.039 dot web, the web dot com tour. Thank you man. She's all 482 00:33:54.240 --> 00:34:00.680 over it and nationwide to everybody's all over it to this is fantastication what everybody 483 00:34:00.720 --> 00:34:02.920 but me? Apparently I got confused when I read the end of the report 484 00:34:04.039 --> 00:34:08.400 saying that the manufactured date would only be on the national Tour. I thought 485 00:34:08.480 --> 00:34:12.079 that's what this whole thing applied to. I wasn't aware that it was the 486 00:34:12.360 --> 00:34:15.079 entire branch of the PBA. Does that mean the PBA leagues too? For 487 00:34:15.599 --> 00:34:20.639 Ushant, No, Like, you can still go Bowl League with your ship. 488 00:34:20.800 --> 00:34:24.039 You can go bowl even the League Bowler Championships that's being contested right now. 489 00:34:24.119 --> 00:34:27.920 You can still use it in that, and I can still use it 490 00:34:28.039 --> 00:34:34.599 at usbc's but Tour, Regional Tour, anything PBA related, you have to 491 00:34:34.639 --> 00:34:38.000 abide by whatever rules they set forth and whatever they finally went on in their 492 00:34:38.000 --> 00:34:43.320 final decision. So what about the USBC Nationals, which is like, isn't 493 00:34:43.320 --> 00:34:46.000 it part PBA part USBC? Is like a joint? Now that's that's one 494 00:34:46.000 --> 00:34:49.360 of the ones I said you could They said you could still use it at 495 00:34:49.400 --> 00:34:52.480 okay, you could still use your stuff there so so confusing, and that 496 00:34:52.559 --> 00:34:55.159 might change too. Is the year ago as next year comes, So I 497 00:34:55.199 --> 00:35:01.199 mean again, man, it's it is a ball that has changed lives for 498 00:35:01.400 --> 00:35:07.320 better and for worse. For a lot of guys, they feel the purple 499 00:35:07.400 --> 00:35:12.920 hammer takes a check away from them every week because the ones who don't it's 500 00:35:12.960 --> 00:35:16.239 for the worst that every week, at every tournament there's at least four to 501 00:35:16.360 --> 00:35:22.039 five guys that are now getting a check or making a final that somebody else 502 00:35:22.320 --> 00:35:25.079 used to be getting it does. I see it every single week. There's 503 00:35:25.119 --> 00:35:29.880 some bowlers that I look at and I say, I mean, this guy 504 00:35:30.239 --> 00:35:35.480 sucks and he's fucking out averaging guys that don't suck. I mean, nobody 505 00:35:35.639 --> 00:35:37.880 sucks on tour. Nobody sucks bowling. In bowling, it's a little different 506 00:35:37.880 --> 00:35:42.360 because some people actually do suck at the problem. I mean, I don't 507 00:35:42.360 --> 00:35:44.719 want you to put throw them on the bus. I mean, Packy Henderson 508 00:35:44.880 --> 00:35:46.440 is a great bowler, but I mean would he have the same success the 509 00:35:46.559 --> 00:35:50.800 year if he didn't have the hammer. I honestly, Packy, I think 510 00:35:50.840 --> 00:35:54.000 will have the most success of anybody with the transition. I think that Packy 511 00:35:54.920 --> 00:35:59.239 wants nothing more than to throw resin. I don't think Packy wants to be 512 00:35:59.320 --> 00:36:01.960 throwing your thing. Hackey likes to hit it. He's clean, he's long, 513 00:36:02.199 --> 00:36:07.119 he can throw it hard. And the kid likes to throw resin. 514 00:36:07.559 --> 00:36:10.960 We all like to throw resin. Rob It's not we do not right. 515 00:36:12.119 --> 00:36:15.199 You guys want to shape the ball, right, like Troy was saying just 516 00:36:15.360 --> 00:36:17.519 last week Keith Breath everybody guys, they want to open that. They want 517 00:36:17.559 --> 00:36:21.400 to see the lane. They want to I don't know if it's called open 518 00:36:21.519 --> 00:36:23.800 or whatever, but it's to shape the ball. Whereas if you're over there 519 00:36:23.880 --> 00:36:29.480 near the gut or you're so jammed up, yeah yeah, I know. 520 00:36:29.840 --> 00:36:31.280 True. Well then who who did you go to this funny? Why don't 521 00:36:31.320 --> 00:36:36.079 I just miss who? Would I just I just just read you know who's 522 00:36:36.159 --> 00:36:38.599 comment? Who would it affect the most? Then? Would you say just 523 00:36:38.760 --> 00:36:43.760 just throw a few names out there. Well, it's going to affect the 524 00:36:43.760 --> 00:36:49.599 people that predominantly throw your thing. Um, I don't know shit that win, 525 00:36:49.960 --> 00:36:53.039 that win the much that win outstandingly with your thing, Okay, Jacob, 526 00:36:53.199 --> 00:36:57.719 Jacob is at the top almost every week. Don Barrett loves throwing your 527 00:36:57.840 --> 00:37:02.880 thing. Uh obviously packy um. Yes, Bert, and these are mostly 528 00:37:02.960 --> 00:37:07.480 lefties, but there are a lot of righties that start every single event with 529 00:37:07.719 --> 00:37:13.079 erothine. Guys, we just watched the PBA Tour finals. EJ is the 530 00:37:13.159 --> 00:37:15.599 only one that through fucking resident on the show. Everybody's talking about what a 531 00:37:15.639 --> 00:37:19.320 great show was. I'm like, does anybody want to see a ball that 532 00:37:19.480 --> 00:37:22.800 makes slightly different motion? Yeah, I mean, at least at least Belmo 533 00:37:22.920 --> 00:37:25.960 threw the IQA for a little while on the show, but it looks like 534 00:37:27.039 --> 00:37:29.840 a fucking eurothine ball going down the lane. So even that wasn't fun. 535 00:37:30.760 --> 00:37:36.119 EJ's so good. DJ can just yeah, I mean to pick a venom 536 00:37:36.199 --> 00:37:38.000 and he'll just fucking throw it. He doesn't care, like he's just he's 537 00:37:38.079 --> 00:37:44.480 that good. Yeah. Well again, it's it's it's not lefty specific. 538 00:37:44.760 --> 00:37:50.639 I believe, I personally believe it is a targeted execution. Of a product 539 00:37:50.960 --> 00:37:54.320 because at some level, at some point in the in the higher up offices, 540 00:37:54.400 --> 00:37:59.639 they had to say, is this helping or hurting our sport? Because 541 00:37:59.639 --> 00:38:02.800 it was certainly fucking helping Brunswick and the brands of Brunswick, and it was 542 00:38:02.880 --> 00:38:09.360 certainly helping guys get out there and be able to make something of themselves. 543 00:38:09.440 --> 00:38:17.599 It definitely softens up the game. But there's you can't tell me that everybody 544 00:38:17.639 --> 00:38:22.000 in the world is having success with a ball that's too soft. It's just 545 00:38:22.119 --> 00:38:24.960 not. If maybe it starts and gets too soft at some point, fine 546 00:38:25.039 --> 00:38:29.239 to keep doing the two years, But I personally don't think there's a reason 547 00:38:29.360 --> 00:38:32.039 to up the hardness and tell everybody they need to be within the two years 548 00:38:32.360 --> 00:38:37.039 of the production date. Do one or the other. Yeah, it's because 549 00:38:37.039 --> 00:38:39.079 of a ball test. Let's say a ball test seventy three hardness and then 550 00:38:39.119 --> 00:38:43.320 you throw four hundred games on it. That hardness level of that ball, 551 00:38:43.360 --> 00:38:46.599 of any ball is going to be softer, right some extent. So over 552 00:38:46.639 --> 00:38:51.000 the course of say four hundred games, if that hardness level drops from seventy 553 00:38:51.039 --> 00:38:54.280 three to seventy one, how many guys throw a ball for four hundred games 554 00:38:54.280 --> 00:38:58.440 at the pinnacle level. Nobody, and if they do, they have one 555 00:38:58.519 --> 00:39:01.000 or two. Yeah stuff year anyway too. For the most I thought every 556 00:39:01.119 --> 00:39:07.440 month really yeah, right, what Leon and Sherry are talking about over here? 557 00:39:07.880 --> 00:39:13.639 Yeah. The the very few times I've seen Yespirth throw Resin, he 558 00:39:13.800 --> 00:39:17.079 doesn't bowl bad, but he looks normal, if that makes any sense, 559 00:39:17.679 --> 00:39:25.480 because you're saying, right, when when when yesperthrows ur Athan, you're confused 560 00:39:25.519 --> 00:39:31.760 when he doesn't strike? When yesper throws Resin, he doesn't look very confident 561 00:39:31.840 --> 00:39:36.039 that it's going to strike, and it's visible. It's visible he makes a 562 00:39:36.159 --> 00:39:42.400 lot of bad shots because a left hander's bowling ball in these most recent years 563 00:39:42.440 --> 00:39:45.679 of the game does not cater to guys that give away the pocket at all. 564 00:39:46.440 --> 00:39:52.400 And it's it's un that's who I think would be impacted the most already, 565 00:39:52.480 --> 00:39:55.119 simply because he hasn't been as dominant these past few years as he was 566 00:39:55.159 --> 00:40:01.599 a few years ago. We we were watching yes for on virtually every show 567 00:40:01.679 --> 00:40:05.039 three or four years ago. I haven't seen as much of him now. 568 00:40:05.159 --> 00:40:07.519 True, true, it's a good point. So in this day and age, 569 00:40:07.559 --> 00:40:12.760 Johnny was the technology that all the bowling companies have. Why can't anybody 570 00:40:12.800 --> 00:40:15.679 else make a ball as good as the Purple Hammer. You can't tell me 571 00:40:15.760 --> 00:40:17.960 nobody can replicate that same. Isn't that? Isn't that amazing? It's the 572 00:40:19.000 --> 00:40:22.360 top secret, like like KFC spices or whatever likes talking about. Is this 573 00:40:22.440 --> 00:40:23.920 the big red whiffle bat? Is this? Literally? Like? Are they 574 00:40:24.039 --> 00:40:29.679 did they do something so revolutionary? Unintentionally or intentionally? That what they because 575 00:40:29.719 --> 00:40:31.559 they're still in spect mode. They're still in like they's still in the scope 576 00:40:31.599 --> 00:40:35.920 of what they're allowed to do. I have said this from day one, 577 00:40:36.480 --> 00:40:42.519 and I really really mean this. I was always a fan of balls that 578 00:40:42.679 --> 00:40:47.159 were smooth. I like one ball's transition gently because on the left side of 579 00:40:47.280 --> 00:40:52.920 lane you do not want angularity right right. All of the old school bowling 580 00:40:52.960 --> 00:40:58.639 balls, I'm going back to quantums, the original til Rhino. All those 581 00:40:58.719 --> 00:41:01.920 bowling balls were two piece bowling balls. They had a core and then the 582 00:41:02.039 --> 00:41:07.719 cover got poured onto the core to the exterior of the bowling ball. So 583 00:41:07.159 --> 00:41:10.320 bright, but it's ever drilled the ball. Typically when you drill into a 584 00:41:10.400 --> 00:41:15.960 ball, the first quarter inch too, we'll call it seven sixteen seven inch 585 00:41:16.800 --> 00:41:21.599 is the outer shell, and then there's the filler material inside of it and 586 00:41:21.719 --> 00:41:25.559 then the core itself. So most high performance bowling balls. I'll take the 587 00:41:25.639 --> 00:41:30.760 new Katana Strike and the and the Storm Summit just to bring out two different 588 00:41:30.800 --> 00:41:34.280 ones here. If you drill into those bowling balls, the exterior of that 589 00:41:34.440 --> 00:41:38.320 ball, the shell is about that five sixteen set to three eighth inch thickness. 590 00:41:39.519 --> 00:41:45.320 The purple hammer is designed the way that all the old school balls were. 591 00:41:45.920 --> 00:41:50.079 They are two pieces. It is core and it is shell. I 592 00:41:50.280 --> 00:41:53.239 have always been a fan when you only pour core and shell, because it 593 00:41:53.400 --> 00:41:58.440 takes away angularity from the ball. The ball hugs the lane. The ball 594 00:41:58.639 --> 00:42:02.480 wants to be in this nice type fitting zone that it's comfortable in. And 595 00:42:04.199 --> 00:42:07.639 of everyone I can think of of a pitch black, the fever pitch, 596 00:42:08.000 --> 00:42:12.840 the pitch blue, the pitch purple, the pitch onyx, the pitch vibranium, 597 00:42:12.880 --> 00:42:16.880 whatever how many pitches they have, and then the even the double cross 598 00:42:17.280 --> 00:42:22.440 from from Radical or any of the tanks. They are not designed that way. 599 00:42:22.960 --> 00:42:27.559 And that is amazing to me that nobody has at least even tried to 600 00:42:27.800 --> 00:42:32.599 pour a two piece eurothane ball from another company. That is one that is 601 00:42:34.159 --> 00:42:38.159 really I think if they tried that at least that's at least one thing that 602 00:42:38.239 --> 00:42:43.280 would level out the playing field. But that's the nature of this world. 603 00:42:43.400 --> 00:42:46.920 Man. If if somebody's got a product that is better than yours, people 604 00:42:47.000 --> 00:42:50.559 instead of trying to make their product just as good, they go out and 605 00:42:50.599 --> 00:42:53.119 they try and make the other fucking better product disappear. It's gross yea. 606 00:42:53.880 --> 00:42:57.639 And now, in the midst of trying to cater to their own agenda, 607 00:42:57.760 --> 00:43:00.440 like I said earlier, they're wiping out an entire generation that has grown up 608 00:43:00.480 --> 00:43:06.360 and learned in the most important years of their life in this sport. To 609 00:43:06.639 --> 00:43:10.320 like Justin Bone is just ahead of the curve, Like if Justin Bone was 610 00:43:10.679 --> 00:43:15.199 eight years younger than he is right now with his talent. Oh, Justin, 611 00:43:15.320 --> 00:43:16.480 by the way, now you have aspirations to go out and bowl on 612 00:43:16.559 --> 00:43:20.199 tour and your bowl and the Masters and all this shit. By the way, 613 00:43:20.519 --> 00:43:22.320 these nineteen bowling balls you've been having success with, put them all away. 614 00:43:22.320 --> 00:43:27.159 You can't bring them anymore. That Those are the people I feel I 615 00:43:27.239 --> 00:43:30.480 feel the worst for. It's at least we have a younger generation that likes 616 00:43:30.519 --> 00:43:35.559 bowling because of Belmo and the two ended Revolution, and a lot of that 617 00:43:36.800 --> 00:43:40.519 is tied in with eurothane pieces, so to eliminate them and eliminate an entire 618 00:43:40.559 --> 00:43:45.280 generation of knowledge and growing up and learning this fucking game is just disgusting. 619 00:43:45.920 --> 00:43:51.320 Would any let's make a difference if Belmo tack it, Simo Troupe all switched 620 00:43:51.360 --> 00:43:55.159 to Brunswick and start throwing purple hammers. No, because all those guys you 621 00:43:55.280 --> 00:44:00.159 just said, I don't think they may pass judgment are or like how they 622 00:44:00.239 --> 00:44:04.519 feel about it. But none of those guys are not tasting success. True, 623 00:44:05.039 --> 00:44:08.880 we watched there. They're gonna win ninety percent instead of seventy. Yeah, 624 00:44:08.920 --> 00:44:12.800 the eight guys that were in the PBA Tour finals, there's only one 625 00:44:12.880 --> 00:44:15.079 left in there and he and he had the worst fucking look on the pair. 626 00:44:15.880 --> 00:44:21.440 Now imagine Jacob Butcher of going out there and he's not allowed to throw 627 00:44:21.480 --> 00:44:24.440 a ball that blends the pattern. Right, what's Jacob gonna do? He 628 00:44:24.480 --> 00:44:28.719 doesn't have one person there to help him move any oil. And the other 629 00:44:28.880 --> 00:44:32.119 seven guys along with Jacob, those guys have collected three million dollars in earnings 630 00:44:32.159 --> 00:44:37.119 over the least two seasons. Yeah, and you're gonna And the problem is 631 00:44:37.519 --> 00:44:40.840 is people who are past their prime who still believe and have that you know, 632 00:44:42.000 --> 00:44:45.440 forty year old ego that I have for sure, where we still think 633 00:44:45.480 --> 00:44:47.400 we're better than the young kids, still think our way is better than theirs 634 00:44:49.000 --> 00:44:52.360 and their cry babies, and they've done enough while they were the highlight of 635 00:44:52.480 --> 00:44:59.960 the PBA tour, and I'm not it's no secret. The number one person 636 00:45:00.239 --> 00:45:02.079 who has the biggest problem with it, and I'm one of the reasons why 637 00:45:02.159 --> 00:45:06.039 I think he has one of the biggest problems with it is because he ain't 638 00:45:06.079 --> 00:45:09.679 on our fucking staff anymore. And I would be pissed off too if I 639 00:45:09.840 --> 00:45:14.920 left or yes, And I didn't even know that, dude, I'm sorry, 640 00:45:14.920 --> 00:45:19.519 I didn't even obviously obviously you did. No when you just said he's 641 00:45:19.559 --> 00:45:22.559 not on our staff anymore, I didn't know that part. No, he's 642 00:45:22.599 --> 00:45:29.079 known if he went to nine hundred Global. When when Barnes got the massive 643 00:45:29.119 --> 00:45:32.760 contract from Columbia, there was talk I'm not going to go into anybody's personal 644 00:45:32.800 --> 00:45:38.039 details, but there was talk of changing his contract and so we simply couldn't 645 00:45:38.079 --> 00:45:43.079 do it, or they simply couldn't do it, and that was when, 646 00:45:43.519 --> 00:45:45.719 well, I guess I'll go with my witch and top buddy over in nine 647 00:45:45.800 --> 00:45:49.480 hundred global because he'll be on the Senior tour sooner. I could be the 648 00:45:49.519 --> 00:45:53.440 big fish there rather than being in the sea of all the kind of big 649 00:45:53.559 --> 00:45:59.000 fish with the brands of Brunswick Dy Savage when you did that. By the 650 00:45:59.039 --> 00:46:08.599 way, set I love the purple Hammer. Depends on where it is, 651 00:46:09.159 --> 00:46:15.280 right, But yeah, I think I think it's a it's a witch hunt. 652 00:46:15.400 --> 00:46:20.199 I do understand that. Again, we've never ever ever had a bowling 653 00:46:20.239 --> 00:46:23.320 ball that is this. This is unprecedented though. Two, I mean really 654 00:46:23.440 --> 00:46:29.119 like, there's kind of fun to see what's going on. And you think 655 00:46:29.159 --> 00:46:31.880 about it, Think about the amounts of bowling balls that come out every single 656 00:46:32.000 --> 00:46:37.239 year, hundreds that no one even knows of hundred, there's one we come 657 00:46:37.280 --> 00:46:42.000 out with seventy a year. There are so many. But you're right, 658 00:46:42.079 --> 00:46:44.840 yeah, there's hundreds of bowling ball, hundreds upon hundreds. I guess I 659 00:46:44.840 --> 00:46:47.920 should have said and that and one it's almost like you got one is so 660 00:46:49.039 --> 00:46:52.000 many light years ahead. And then even the second bowling ball, it's like 661 00:46:52.039 --> 00:46:54.320 a guy averaging two thirty and the next person's averaging and the rest of the 662 00:46:54.400 --> 00:46:59.800 field is like averaging one ninety and below that's the purple hammer versus all those 663 00:47:00.199 --> 00:47:06.360 bols, and they're teetering two through fucking hund Is very close and then boom, 664 00:47:07.159 --> 00:47:12.159 you got the one dude on top like me exactly, Well, let's 665 00:47:12.159 --> 00:47:14.880 switch. Let's let's switch gears, because I think, I mean, there's 666 00:47:14.960 --> 00:47:17.679 there's not much else we can really say about that. Um, let's uh 667 00:47:19.159 --> 00:47:24.639 on her chin quickly quickly talk about the PBA Finals that I had no idea 668 00:47:24.920 --> 00:47:31.039 was being televised on CBS Sports Network the entire day of Saturday because the PBA 669 00:47:31.360 --> 00:47:34.920 Tour was over. Hold on, wait, there was a show. This 670 00:47:35.239 --> 00:47:37.199 was the column, This was all the major winners and the high end, 671 00:47:37.280 --> 00:47:42.239 the top eight and points to two months after the last event. So I 672 00:47:42.639 --> 00:47:45.599 can see why you're confused, thought Choe. Yeah, and the PBA does 673 00:47:45.639 --> 00:47:50.039 such a great job of promoting their events that I had no idea the whole 674 00:47:50.039 --> 00:47:52.519 thing is being televised because last I looked on their website, they did not 675 00:47:52.639 --> 00:47:57.519 show where it was going to be televised. And I happened to be just 676 00:47:58.119 --> 00:48:04.079 flipping through the channels on Saturday for the Popeyes, waiting for the four o'clock 677 00:48:04.119 --> 00:48:07.440 golf squad. They come on with Ed the Travelers. Then I saw a 678 00:48:07.519 --> 00:48:09.159 bullying You're like, what the fuck it this? Uh? And it was 679 00:48:09.239 --> 00:48:15.679 the entire you know, um finals. It was on network television, CBS 680 00:48:15.719 --> 00:48:17.440 Sports Network. Oh all right, well, I mean that's close enough. 681 00:48:17.440 --> 00:48:20.519 That's not a bad that's not a bad gig. No, And it was 682 00:48:20.559 --> 00:48:22.239 not for like six hours. I mean it was fun to watch all of 683 00:48:22.280 --> 00:48:24.920 it, which I did. Yeah, so it was some fun. It 684 00:48:25.159 --> 00:48:29.920 was so CBS. What did they do? Okay, well, because they're 685 00:48:29.960 --> 00:48:32.000 usually on Fox and they did they have the tracer gimmick and all that or 686 00:48:32.039 --> 00:48:36.280 did they have um yeah, pretty much? Um, not as much lanepox 687 00:48:36.320 --> 00:48:37.280 stuff obviously. I don't know if they have a day was Fox? But 688 00:48:37.679 --> 00:48:43.480 Angel of the Wins Casino in Washington, Yes, and uh, it would 689 00:48:43.480 --> 00:48:45.119 watch I did so it's already on YouTube, but yes, it was. 690 00:48:45.159 --> 00:48:47.960 It was. It was fun to watch. I had Randy uh and uh, 691 00:48:49.239 --> 00:48:52.239 what's his nuts there? Dave Um, Dave Ryan, Dave Ryan, 692 00:48:52.320 --> 00:48:54.440 which I think it's a Dave Brown in our chat. I don't even know 693 00:48:54.440 --> 00:48:59.440 who Dave Brown is. Uh, Dave Ryan's good, No, Dave Ryan's 694 00:48:59.599 --> 00:49:02.079 very good. Defeat your success guy, um, yes, I could do 695 00:49:02.239 --> 00:49:06.079 We could do without that, but everything else is good. Yeah, I 696 00:49:06.159 --> 00:49:08.239 thought they did a good job. Actually, I like CBA sports presentation a 697 00:49:08.280 --> 00:49:12.599 little bit better than Fox. It wasn't a glamorous and glitzy and all that, 698 00:49:12.719 --> 00:49:15.360 but there was way less mistakes and I didn't see any camera of faux 699 00:49:15.400 --> 00:49:19.480 pause or anything like that. So I thought CBA did a really good job 700 00:49:19.480 --> 00:49:23.039 of presenting the sport. I wish they would get more And kudos to Randy 701 00:49:23.119 --> 00:49:27.280 and Dave because that's a long day sitting in the booth and viewing line, 702 00:49:27.400 --> 00:49:31.519 and that's you could have to be focused for that long and on exactly everything 703 00:49:31.559 --> 00:49:35.000 that's going on. It's like, yeah, that's that's a long day. 704 00:49:35.119 --> 00:49:38.239 Unfortunately, those guys on a bowl TV booth too. Unfortunately Kimberly pressed the 705 00:49:38.320 --> 00:49:44.400 week she was not there, so unfortunately we missed her, Like missus doubtfire 706 00:49:44.519 --> 00:49:50.639 the way you just said that, we didn't have to sit through her shitty 707 00:49:50.760 --> 00:49:55.800 questions real quick, Yes, Sherry, it does. I can't fucking believe 708 00:49:55.840 --> 00:50:00.039 it does. Yeah, I was right, How do you? So? 709 00:50:00.199 --> 00:50:02.920 There's only how many people in the in the eight they took an event, 710 00:50:04.000 --> 00:50:07.719 they made the PBA Tour Finals a PBA title. Yeah, you guys call 711 00:50:07.760 --> 00:50:12.840 me an asshole for saying that a couple weeks ago. Well, because asinine, 712 00:50:13.199 --> 00:50:16.719 How can you grant somebody a championship? Right, kudos to Kyle for 713 00:50:16.800 --> 00:50:21.400 winning his ten title. I absolutely love Kyle on television. He's great for 714 00:50:21.480 --> 00:50:23.960 the sport. Well, yeah, he's sensational bowler, he knows how to 715 00:50:24.000 --> 00:50:28.519 win, he's a showman, he's absolutely everything that the sport means, and 716 00:50:29.000 --> 00:50:30.760 he will be a Hall of Famer after he serves twenty years. If he 717 00:50:30.800 --> 00:50:35.239 serves twenty years. I hate that everybody keeps having a fucking talk about the 718 00:50:35.320 --> 00:50:37.480 Hall of Fame every time somebody wins. Now, like a holy shit, 719 00:50:37.559 --> 00:50:39.440 he's in the Hall of Fame, all right, motherfucker. He's still in 720 00:50:39.480 --> 00:50:44.400 his mid twenties or early early thirties. It'll be in the Hall of Fame 721 00:50:44.480 --> 00:50:47.880 when he's fifty. Can letting bowler his career first, But anyway that I 722 00:50:49.039 --> 00:50:52.679 can't believe that you give somebody their tenth title on an event that they qualified 723 00:50:52.760 --> 00:50:55.719 for through the season and only had to bowl seven other guys. That's like 724 00:50:55.800 --> 00:51:00.840 making a Super Slam a title pretty much the same thing. And then for 725 00:51:00.000 --> 00:51:06.039 more insider information the venue I've heard. First off, anybody that watched the 726 00:51:06.119 --> 00:51:13.159 show, Don Barrett sliding the tenpin over on that ring ten was almost as 727 00:51:13.199 --> 00:51:20.119 amazing to me as Chris Prather throwing three shots that the tenpin fell forward a 728 00:51:20.199 --> 00:51:23.000 flush hit. True. Let's let's go back. Let's for somebody who didn't 729 00:51:23.000 --> 00:51:25.239 see it. We're not playing spoiler alert because no one even knew it was 730 00:51:25.320 --> 00:51:29.440 on. So what happened? What did uh? What did troop do? 731 00:51:30.559 --> 00:51:32.199 Don Barrett or Barrett? Dude? That's what I said. What is one 732 00:51:32.280 --> 00:51:37.239 find out real real quick, just just because he's here, Craig, You're 733 00:51:37.320 --> 00:51:39.519 exactly I said. Right after I said the coverage they did on TV, 734 00:51:39.599 --> 00:51:43.559 I said, I feel even worse for the Bowl TV guys because those guys, 735 00:51:44.039 --> 00:51:47.079 let's say the Masters, they're in there from fucking what six am until 736 00:51:49.000 --> 00:51:52.480 nine pm every day, and which is true, but they still get to 737 00:51:52.559 --> 00:51:54.719 pounce around from you know, they have ninety different bowlers to do with. 738 00:51:54.840 --> 00:51:59.920 These guys are literally talking about the same freaking eight bowlers over and over again. 739 00:52:00.119 --> 00:52:02.639 But uh, and not that either one's any easier, but it's just 740 00:52:04.239 --> 00:52:07.239 I think one's a little different and that's not the point. What happened with 741 00:52:07.360 --> 00:52:12.159 Don Barrett and a tenpin. He slid it to do what he threw a 742 00:52:12.199 --> 00:52:15.079 beautiful shot left a ringing tenpin where the tenpin got hit, like and it 743 00:52:15.119 --> 00:52:19.719 looked like it was gonna fall purpose right and it got hit and it just 744 00:52:19.880 --> 00:52:27.840 flew almost almost position or some like or that the nine excuse me, and 745 00:52:28.159 --> 00:52:30.960 and Chris Prather, you know, like usually when you slap a tenpin, 746 00:52:31.119 --> 00:52:35.679 you see the sixpin cutting it chops it out from under and each four from 747 00:52:35.719 --> 00:52:39.519 the side. Amost, yeah, exactly what's up? Kebbo And love you 748 00:52:39.599 --> 00:52:44.519 too, Craig. Chuck is awesome. I love Chuck um. But now, 749 00:52:44.760 --> 00:52:47.000 like what's happening is the pin was actually catching the back of the tenpin 750 00:52:47.079 --> 00:52:52.239 and the tenpin would fall forward on the deck on a beautiful flush hit three 751 00:52:52.320 --> 00:52:58.599 times and ends. I'm watching and to me, it looked like Jacob couldn't 752 00:52:58.639 --> 00:53:02.039 even stand up. And that's when I got a text message from him during 753 00:53:02.039 --> 00:53:07.280 the first commercial break, and he told me, I just don't understand if 754 00:53:07.320 --> 00:53:13.440 you're gonna have the eight greatest PBA players in your venue, how you can 755 00:53:13.480 --> 00:53:17.519 treat it like this? He said, they were so sticky that he's like 756 00:53:17.679 --> 00:53:22.960 it was absolutely impossible to even attempt to execute a good shot. Oh he's 757 00:53:22.960 --> 00:53:27.480 a big slider too, actually, like he's he runs fast, like he's 758 00:53:27.480 --> 00:53:30.000 still release. Yeah, he's fast. A yeah, I forgot a thing 759 00:53:30.119 --> 00:53:32.960 was wattle wattle? And think about it. When was the last time you 760 00:53:34.079 --> 00:53:37.119 saw EJ. Tackett fall off balance or Belmo fall off back? Bellow was 761 00:53:37.159 --> 00:53:40.320 like a foot and a half from the fucking following. Yeah, yeah it 762 00:53:40.400 --> 00:53:44.159 was. I didn't because I didn't know it was on because nobody freaking even 763 00:53:44.199 --> 00:53:45.719 promoted the damn thing. So but I get what you're saying. I can 764 00:53:45.840 --> 00:53:50.320 check it out on YouTube. It's just it's very, very very poor lane 765 00:53:50.400 --> 00:53:53.280 maintenance and approach maintenance. It's it's it's very very I assume they were all 766 00:53:53.320 --> 00:53:57.119 were probably talking about it like it was um yeah, because those guys are 767 00:53:57.480 --> 00:54:00.599 you know, they talk anyway like it's got to be. That must have 768 00:54:00.639 --> 00:54:05.320 been a hot topic there if there was a whole miked up segment. Yeah, 769 00:54:05.599 --> 00:54:09.880 it was a rob It was interesting. His popby his orders in or 770 00:54:10.000 --> 00:54:14.000 I think he's texting his boss that he's going to be late to his uh 771 00:54:14.440 --> 00:54:20.559 his Madden game. Yeah, Madden ninety three. Yeah, I'm actually taping. 772 00:54:20.840 --> 00:54:23.239 I'm actually I have a cassette player hooked up to my computer. I'm 773 00:54:23.280 --> 00:54:27.599 actually taping stuff off of my old cassette tapes. If you want to know 774 00:54:27.719 --> 00:54:31.760 you're making you you had making a mixtapeipde a mixtape. I flipped over the 775 00:54:31.800 --> 00:54:38.800 cassette. Use then nobody even knows what these are anymore. Nine minute one 776 00:54:38.920 --> 00:54:44.119 So this way you fit more on there record on one side. Remember one 777 00:54:44.239 --> 00:54:46.920 eight ones. They're like, yeah, they're super expensive. Sorry, no, 778 00:54:47.079 --> 00:54:50.880 it's all good. Answering Ricky's question. This was at the Angel of 779 00:54:50.960 --> 00:54:55.119 the Winds Casino resort in um in Washington, in Washington. Yeah, you 780 00:54:55.159 --> 00:54:59.599 could hear the slot machines in the background. I'm sure there was not fun 781 00:54:59.639 --> 00:55:02.840 to any the bowlers up. They're having to concentrate right here and the whole 782 00:55:04.119 --> 00:55:07.039 time. So which I love the sound of slot machines. That could put 783 00:55:07.079 --> 00:55:12.239 me to slight. So, um, there's there's mine. The light sizes 784 00:55:12.440 --> 00:55:15.119 need it needs, it needs service. That's like I feel like that's good 785 00:55:15.199 --> 00:55:19.679 sleeping material. Like that's like good background music. That's like white noise noise 786 00:55:19.800 --> 00:55:22.119 machine. That's awesome. I hit a, I hit a hand pay on 787 00:55:22.239 --> 00:55:27.559 it, so I have to reset it with the k nice nice. So 788 00:55:27.760 --> 00:55:30.559 I mean, let's let's talk about Kyle Troupe. You mentioned how Grady was 789 00:55:30.559 --> 00:55:36.119 for TV. He was on fire, like he getting into to the final 790 00:55:36.199 --> 00:55:38.440 match. Uh, I mean he bowled decent. I mean he had some 791 00:55:38.599 --> 00:55:43.719 trouble um, but he was He was dead nuts on against Braith and he 792 00:55:43.760 --> 00:55:46.679 gotta give him credit for that. But I mean the fact that he should 793 00:55:46.679 --> 00:55:51.000 have lost and not made it to the finals, like and him actually making 794 00:55:51.079 --> 00:55:53.440 it through and getting pumped up and pointing to his tattoos has never give up 795 00:55:53.519 --> 00:55:57.760 and screaming it to camera like you're right, he's a showman. He's he's 796 00:55:57.840 --> 00:56:01.000 he's fantastic for the game. He obviously does our true we'd love Kyle Trupe. 797 00:56:01.039 --> 00:56:05.679 But I felt bad for praythro I thought Praythor had a fantastic run. 798 00:56:05.760 --> 00:56:08.000 I was really pulling for him to win because he's such a nice guy. 799 00:56:08.480 --> 00:56:12.679 And I want to say publicly here that I gave I don't want to say 800 00:56:12.679 --> 00:56:15.519 I gave him shit because I always preface things when I talk about him by 801 00:56:15.599 --> 00:56:19.280 saying he's a fantastic bowler. But I haven't seen him all year and he's 802 00:56:19.280 --> 00:56:22.840 in the tour finals. Well he proved why he you know, he belonged 803 00:56:22.880 --> 00:56:25.960 there. Uh and I we Bold for a major championship. You know, 804 00:56:27.119 --> 00:56:31.679 it's the tital match of major true um dinner in the background or something like 805 00:56:31.800 --> 00:56:36.960 that. I'm curious, it's Steph. I don't. I don't if somebody 806 00:56:37.079 --> 00:56:40.840 ordering the back. Rachelle's working, she's Oh god, she's always hustle man. 807 00:56:42.000 --> 00:56:45.199 I thought, yeah, that's good. Man never stopped the between five 808 00:56:45.280 --> 00:56:52.760 am and ten thirty pm. She's she's selling houses right now, lipping them. 809 00:56:52.679 --> 00:56:58.400 She's doing this one quite possibly in a few months. But we will 810 00:56:58.440 --> 00:57:00.880 be renting this one out, which would be a great to see the Mayflower 811 00:57:00.920 --> 00:57:04.960 guys just carrying boxes in the back like us. I finally going back after 812 00:57:05.159 --> 00:57:07.400 next year, so I need a place to crash. Steph, I don't 813 00:57:07.400 --> 00:57:10.079 know who makes the decisions on the venue. I've never been to Angel the 814 00:57:10.159 --> 00:57:15.119 Winds, so I don't know. Craig says it is a nice venue. 815 00:57:15.159 --> 00:57:17.199 We've been there several times in Bold an event there a few years ago with 816 00:57:17.320 --> 00:57:23.239 no approach issues. So apparently in the last few years their maintenance has gone 817 00:57:23.239 --> 00:57:29.679 down because but other than that, I thought the shows themselves were enjoyable. 818 00:57:29.679 --> 00:57:34.199 I'm still a little bit confused as to why they would consider this a PBA 819 00:57:34.320 --> 00:57:37.599 title. To me, that would be like, this sounds horrible, but 820 00:57:37.679 --> 00:57:43.960 it's actually not like the Chris Paul Celebrity Invitational. There's eight guys at that 821 00:57:44.079 --> 00:57:46.360 too, and they're all teamed up with somebody who basically doesn't know how to 822 00:57:46.400 --> 00:57:52.400 bowl unless CEO and Mookie Bets are bowling. But could you imagine if the 823 00:57:52.599 --> 00:57:57.639 CP three Invitational was a PBA title. That's how I feel about this. 824 00:57:57.800 --> 00:58:00.960 This is like when Brunswick held the Brunswick bowl Skins Game. It's like giving 825 00:58:01.000 --> 00:58:07.199 a title away to to there's four guys bowling, if it's a PBA sponsored 826 00:58:07.280 --> 00:58:10.159 or sanction event, make them all fucking title. Why not? That's it's 827 00:58:10.199 --> 00:58:14.440 so strange to me. It's, hey, we'll look do what you gotta 828 00:58:14.480 --> 00:58:17.159 do it. I'm that's great. Kyle would have gotten ten titles regardless of 829 00:58:17.280 --> 00:58:22.159 this one or not true. Um, but yeah, it's I just I 830 00:58:22.199 --> 00:58:24.719 don't understand it. I don't I don't ever understand. No, I gotta 831 00:58:24.800 --> 00:58:28.960 know I'm with I guess I would compare it saying like when there's a pro 832 00:58:29.079 --> 00:58:31.800 am in golf, right, is that is that considered a PGA win if 833 00:58:31.840 --> 00:58:35.280 you win the PEPSI pro Am. I don't know. I want to say 834 00:58:35.320 --> 00:58:39.000 the Pebble Beach ProAm might be that one different, such a different thing. 835 00:58:39.519 --> 00:58:43.880 They don't count the aggregate score, though they count their own score. They 836 00:58:43.920 --> 00:58:47.480 have their aggregate, but they also have the pros still playing for the title. 837 00:58:47.559 --> 00:58:51.159 And there and there's it's a stacked field, there's a you know, 838 00:58:51.239 --> 00:58:54.280 one hundred and forty golfers in there. I mean, Kyle thinks there's a 839 00:58:54.559 --> 00:58:59.800 sorry, do you think Kyle thinks there's a little asterisk next to that one? 840 00:59:00.239 --> 00:59:04.599 Like the McGuire record, I think Kyle was probably shocked to find out 841 00:59:04.679 --> 00:59:09.320 it was a PBA title. He may not know, and but either way, 842 00:59:09.320 --> 00:59:15.880 I think I'd be like, oh cool, next next Tournamentum, the 843 00:59:15.039 --> 00:59:22.599 Lucy. The Lucy Bano Strikeout Breast Cancer event is undoubtedly one of the greatest 844 00:59:22.639 --> 00:59:27.679 events of the year. It massive, massive amounts of teams every single time 845 00:59:27.760 --> 00:59:30.800 Vick and Harry is at that event. And I think that should I think 846 00:59:30.840 --> 00:59:37.360 that the Lucy should be a PBA title. I don't think that you should 847 00:59:37.480 --> 00:59:44.039 say, let's say Liz Johnson wins with Jacob, Buttriff, I don't think 848 00:59:44.320 --> 00:59:47.719 Liz Johnson should get the credit for winning a PBA title. I think she 849 00:59:47.800 --> 00:59:52.239 should receive the ladies title, and I think Jacob should receive the men's title, 850 00:59:52.000 --> 00:59:58.519 whereas like Kelly Culick earned the title of Tournament of Champions, Liz Johnson 851 00:59:58.599 --> 01:00:01.039 almost earned the title when she made the show and lost to Tommy Jones and 852 01:00:01.079 --> 01:00:04.320 the title match, And there should be in a movie made about that, 853 01:00:04.519 --> 01:00:08.360 like they how that even got Riggs versus Billy Jane King movie like they got 854 01:00:08.400 --> 01:00:13.519 that? And how should that that? That literally was the first time in 855 01:00:13.960 --> 01:00:17.679 sports history that a woman workmen's event, Like why then? How was that 856 01:00:17.800 --> 01:00:22.719 not a movie? As it should be a movie? And uh and confirmed 857 01:00:22.760 --> 01:00:27.719 by confirmed by Stephanie and Craig. Yes, so the Lucy does distribute a 858 01:00:27.800 --> 01:00:30.960 PBA title to the to the men and to past statticians on this show. 859 01:00:31.119 --> 01:00:35.800 I'm telling you we have people that run the industry tuning in which means it 860 01:00:35.920 --> 01:00:38.440 must be doing something right at some point. Should anytime I see somebody in 861 01:00:38.519 --> 01:00:42.639 there that knows what they're talking about, I'm definitely gonna read it, read 862 01:00:42.679 --> 01:00:45.519 everything that comes in there A lot. I learned them more on this show 863 01:00:45.559 --> 01:00:49.559 than I dish out. That's true, And you know a lot um how 864 01:00:49.639 --> 01:00:52.960 many teams are in the regular PBA Double Tournament and that's considered a title, 865 01:00:53.039 --> 01:00:58.800 right, Oh, that's a good question. Probably around sixty ish sixty Okay, 866 01:00:58.880 --> 01:01:00.679 it's quite a lot, then, I would say, so, I'll 867 01:01:00.719 --> 01:01:02.840 just try to compare it to like, you know, the tour finals, 868 01:01:04.039 --> 01:01:07.039 like shouldn't be smaller fields? Move on, No, Kermit the Frog would 869 01:01:07.039 --> 01:01:13.039 play Chris Harold Ramis Kermit the Frog al al Michael's all the same kind of 870 01:01:13.119 --> 01:01:19.559 voice like Christian Bale because he can be real whiny. Harold Ramis is dead. 871 01:01:19.599 --> 01:01:22.039 So I'm so good for you. That's what we need. Like you 872 01:01:22.119 --> 01:01:28.039 know, oh you won? Oh, good for you. Okay, I'd 873 01:01:28.079 --> 01:01:30.480 like to see Will Ferrell play Chris Barnes. Actually, what do you think 874 01:01:30.519 --> 01:01:31.679 you do? A good job? No, Will, Will Farrell, We're 875 01:01:31.719 --> 01:01:39.039 not going to send my pro thing. Come on trying to No, come 876 01:01:39.079 --> 01:01:45.760 on, Jesus guy, Really, dude, Jeremy Runner is so cool and 877 01:01:45.880 --> 01:01:47.679 badass. Well that was the joke of it. It's kind of like you 878 01:01:47.719 --> 01:01:52.079 know, like this to add some credence to it, like she's beaten like 879 01:01:52.159 --> 01:01:55.400 this badass guy, not freaking Kermit the Frog. Yeah, I grew Terran 880 01:01:55.440 --> 01:02:00.519 Will Ferrell should play every everyone and everything I love. I wrote real quick. 881 01:02:00.760 --> 01:02:05.239 Ken Ken says, how do you feel about the ball softness issue due 882 01:02:05.320 --> 01:02:10.280 to today's oils being they are mixed of different What does that say? Rob? 883 01:02:10.360 --> 01:02:14.239 Roll out? Let me throw it up there for you. What Kenny 884 01:02:14.320 --> 01:02:17.920 the basticks shown here? Because I've used an oil on mine and it definitely 885 01:02:17.960 --> 01:02:22.480 softened them. But I thought it was water based and not a different lubricant. 886 01:02:22.639 --> 01:02:28.519 I don't know if the ball softness is contributed to the mixture of oils 887 01:02:28.599 --> 01:02:35.039 being used. Um so I and again I don't really I'm not on board 888 01:02:35.079 --> 01:02:39.079 with the fucking softness train. And I'm defending not only Hammer and Brunswick. 889 01:02:39.119 --> 01:02:44.480 I'm defending Storm. I'm defending Storm. When they took away those six awesome 890 01:02:44.559 --> 01:02:46.360 bowling balls day one of the Masters. Yeah, we pitched about that. 891 01:02:46.400 --> 01:02:50.679 Absolutely, we took a whole show on them. But no, I don't 892 01:02:50.840 --> 01:02:54.440 I think that. I don't fucking no, man, I just I know 893 01:02:57.079 --> 01:03:01.880 it's so fucking stupid to me. It's because they're not like sixty two hardness 894 01:03:01.920 --> 01:03:06.519 and everything else is seventy five. Some of them get softer when you use 895 01:03:06.599 --> 01:03:09.440 them more so they created a rule that prevented that from happening. We had 896 01:03:09.480 --> 01:03:14.639 to drill fucking new purple hammers with purple with pink pins instead of green pins. 897 01:03:15.079 --> 01:03:16.679 And I'm sure in two more years the pen will be a different color 898 01:03:16.760 --> 01:03:20.280 than too. Do you think John Holmes had a problem with softness? After 899 01:03:20.320 --> 01:03:23.920 you thinking so many times? Who the hell is John Holmes? Jesus Christ? 900 01:03:31.199 --> 01:03:34.599 All right, they're out there for the show, for the show. 901 01:03:37.159 --> 01:03:40.840 Oh, by the way, isn't somebody that should played Chris Barnes in the 902 01:03:40.920 --> 01:03:45.760 movie? So was also the guy who played Cole from Bachelor Party, So 903 01:03:45.880 --> 01:03:52.280 in a way he kind of played the guy that almost got Tony Ktein or 904 01:03:52.480 --> 01:03:54.239 he was the ex of Tony Kite. So Chris Barnes cannot be played. 905 01:03:54.320 --> 01:03:58.360 Rather, now, if he dressed like Kent from Real Genius with the turtleneck 906 01:03:58.559 --> 01:04:01.679 and the glasses, then we got it and then the big high lip smile. 907 01:04:02.199 --> 01:04:05.880 Ricky Smith is the one who mentioned it. Um. I know movies 908 01:04:05.920 --> 01:04:12.039 for especially from the eighties, but not not not those. Yeah, that's 909 01:04:12.039 --> 01:04:14.880 all right. No, real genius had Val Kilman, who was a super 910 01:04:14.960 --> 01:04:19.079 awesome movie. Actually was a very good movie. I saw but M and 911 01:04:19.280 --> 01:04:23.559 Last Low. Everybody knows Last Low anyway, but that's a matter of fact. 912 01:04:23.559 --> 01:04:28.239 Guy in Butch Last Load died jumping over the thing in Vegas that sorry 913 01:04:28.599 --> 01:04:31.440 trust walk in nineteen ninety six. I think it was no, no, 914 01:04:31.599 --> 01:04:34.559 no, no no, that big crosswalk. It's like a freaking hundred foot 915 01:04:34.639 --> 01:04:38.719 high clou Yeah, yeah, yeah over it and wind blew. Anyway, 916 01:04:38.840 --> 01:04:42.960 Laslow is in Genie how conversations go like that? He mentions real genius. 917 01:04:43.039 --> 01:04:45.159 But the guy was also in Bachelor Party. He was a guy when they 918 01:04:45.199 --> 01:04:47.159 were like, there's a nice moon out tonight and his ass cheeks rump against 919 01:04:47.159 --> 01:04:50.199 the window. No one remembers that part. You're a right spending out to 920 01:04:50.320 --> 01:04:56.159 controue. We needed that. Yeah, we did what you should do. 921 01:04:56.199 --> 01:04:59.960 You should link up the folder's commercial because that was the original. Johnny doesn't 922 01:05:00.119 --> 01:05:09.559 say now like that's completely I'm just gonna say I had a Sunny, says 923 01:05:09.920 --> 01:05:12.760 James, and at my house. So that's right. I was at Sunny's 924 01:05:12.800 --> 01:05:16.159 house this time last year. It's always sunny she had. She had this 925 01:05:16.400 --> 01:05:19.800 great, great drink. She has a specific kind. I don't know if 926 01:05:19.800 --> 01:05:24.559 it's a beer or a malted beverage or some some kind of hybrid. I 927 01:05:24.719 --> 01:05:31.960 like something. It might be something new or like yogging. He stop doing. 928 01:05:32.000 --> 01:05:34.320 You have to go back up because I can't read the rest of what 929 01:05:34.400 --> 01:05:38.440 it says. Last year, we got you. Oh it's not your fault, 930 01:05:38.480 --> 01:05:45.639 it's it's back up. I'm trying. Here we go, Here we 931 01:05:45.719 --> 01:05:48.440 go. Uh, we got you to visit and love Green Week last year. 932 01:05:48.440 --> 01:05:51.119 I guess she's referencing that I brought weed because I don't know what Green 933 01:05:51.159 --> 01:05:55.800 Week is. But happy for you in Vegas as well. The Scots, 934 01:05:56.039 --> 01:05:59.679 I'm assuming they're related to the guys you're talking about from those movies. Asked 935 01:05:59.679 --> 01:06:02.480 if you're arriving soon and you all rock? Thanks, Sonny, tell the 936 01:06:02.559 --> 01:06:09.519 Scott Dwayne that I don't know who they are, and but I'm sorry, 937 01:06:09.880 --> 01:06:14.559 and and hello hello, and Troy's laughing at me. Apparently I'm supposed to 938 01:06:14.599 --> 01:06:17.360 know who this guy is and I don't. I'll send you a method. 939 01:06:17.800 --> 01:06:23.679 I'll see the link in our private check from real Genius. Still, yeah, 940 01:06:23.679 --> 01:06:29.239 I never Bancher party. You've seen right, Tom Hank's finest I have 941 01:06:29.400 --> 01:06:31.280 not seen back. Oh my JP, I probably would never steer you wrong 942 01:06:31.320 --> 01:06:34.119 on anything ever. Please, I know Johnny? Did you see him? 943 01:06:34.639 --> 01:06:38.719 Go get Bachelor Party? Please? Did you see Boogie Knights? Johnny? 944 01:06:39.119 --> 01:06:44.239 Yes, Dirk Diggler, That's exactly who he was playing. Was was John 945 01:06:44.320 --> 01:06:47.719 holmes ish character? So okay, yeah, all right, done? Five 946 01:06:47.760 --> 01:06:54.199 dollars real genius? Yeah, all right? I have seen Weird Science who 947 01:06:54.320 --> 01:07:00.679 had another great movie actual apparently work over your hair, Gary, I never 948 01:07:00.760 --> 01:07:06.239 saw it. What else we got? I think, I'm I think I 949 01:07:06.280 --> 01:07:12.360 think we're done already. Shit, I mean great, but shit, yeah, 950 01:07:13.079 --> 01:07:15.679 I don't know how to segue for more unfold with the USBC or with 951 01:07:15.800 --> 01:07:21.199 the with the PBA. You're a thing and hardness testing whatever the fuck it 952 01:07:21.320 --> 01:07:25.920 is, but I've never failed. We're gonna have to wait and see what 953 01:07:26.000 --> 01:07:31.159 happens. I got nothing else for you. I did not bowl this week, 954 01:07:31.199 --> 01:07:34.800 so I didn't miss any spares and I think one twenties Mike Wise, 955 01:07:34.840 --> 01:07:39.880 does ask your pops about John Holmes? All right? I can't believe It's 956 01:07:39.960 --> 01:07:43.400 like, I like, should you guys, should you ask your dad about 957 01:07:43.480 --> 01:07:46.280 John Holmes. That doesn't sound right either. Why what's he gonna say? 958 01:07:46.599 --> 01:07:49.119 I don't know like he knows him. He shook his hand, the guy 959 01:07:49.239 --> 01:07:53.480 died like the most ferocious. He probably did actually know him. I wouldn't 960 01:07:53.480 --> 01:07:57.320 be surprised. Your dad knew everybody back in the day. My dad, 961 01:07:57.440 --> 01:08:00.840 My dad is an encyclopedia. He just can't remember what he for dinner last 962 01:08:00.960 --> 01:08:05.039 night. That's all everything else. He's still good at We got to get 963 01:08:05.159 --> 01:08:09.599 back on the show. By the way, sounds sounds good. He's down 964 01:08:09.599 --> 01:08:11.880 at Bowl XPO. Yeah, that's the other thing that's happening right now is 965 01:08:11.920 --> 01:08:15.239 boy Bull XPO. I knew you're gonna bring that up. Yeah. Bull 966 01:08:15.280 --> 01:08:18.159 expos in Florida at a really really nice venue this year, and it's every 967 01:08:18.279 --> 01:08:23.479 Bowling advocates playground. It's Disney World for a few days. You get to 968 01:08:24.079 --> 01:08:27.199 see all the new products, get the best deals if you're a shop owner, 969 01:08:27.279 --> 01:08:32.880 and even bowling priders for larger capital purchases. There's nice there's good events, 970 01:08:32.920 --> 01:08:35.600 there's good food, give me a lot of great people, get some 971 01:08:35.680 --> 01:08:40.800 autographs, have some more intimate time with the pros and the booths and uh 972 01:08:41.039 --> 01:08:43.680 yeah, Boll x BO always does a nice job. It's it's nice to 973 01:08:43.720 --> 01:08:45.920 see them in the in the beautiful venue that they're in in Florida right now. 974 01:08:46.520 --> 01:08:50.000 Was he invited there? I'm assuming he. My dad is down there 975 01:08:50.079 --> 01:08:55.239 at Bowl XPO. He's they're signing autographs in the booth and things along those. 976 01:08:55.319 --> 01:08:59.600 He still drives that whole freaking way. Yeah. Nice. Yeah, 977 01:09:00.159 --> 01:09:04.000 if that's a lot, that's just I mean, well, I mean my 978 01:09:04.199 --> 01:09:08.039 dad does too. My dad's old school too, he's seventies. I get 979 01:09:08.359 --> 01:09:11.359 like, if you look, if I got to drive to Maryland from Ochoville, 980 01:09:11.399 --> 01:09:13.439 it's not bad, you know, even if I got If I got 981 01:09:13.520 --> 01:09:16.159 to drive within seven hours, that I'm okay with that. It's when the 982 01:09:16.279 --> 01:09:21.079 clock's gonna strike the same time and I'm still not there. If I leave 983 01:09:21.119 --> 01:09:26.479 at midnight and it's noon and I'm still freaking seven hours away, I'm pissed. 984 01:09:26.640 --> 01:09:29.000 There's something about old guys to do it. Like my uncle Jacks lived 985 01:09:29.000 --> 01:09:32.359 in Florida, but he's Connecticut and he's got pass alone the way, like 986 01:09:32.479 --> 01:09:34.359 he's like, all, I'm gonna stop here. He's got to stop in 987 01:09:34.439 --> 01:09:38.520 Mooresville and go check out the guy who hooked me up at the bowling alley. 988 01:09:39.199 --> 01:09:42.600 You guys also got to remember with my Ricky, does it look the 989 01:09:42.640 --> 01:09:45.399 amount of time that my dad's been on the road. My dad's got a 990 01:09:45.560 --> 01:09:53.600 friend to stay with. It's literally true, did you He's got Chris Monroy 991 01:09:53.680 --> 01:09:55.279 in here. And he's I was like, He's like, he's like the 992 01:09:55.359 --> 01:09:57.760 pencil. He's like, you've got a friend in Pennsylvania. Well, JP 993 01:09:58.000 --> 01:10:00.479 does, of course. And then I know he's got that dude in Mooresville 994 01:10:00.479 --> 01:10:02.319 because they hooked me up one time and I was there one time. Then 995 01:10:02.399 --> 01:10:05.520 they were with my family and my father made a comment, He's like, 996 01:10:05.560 --> 01:10:09.039 your brother's been living here for three years, doesn't know anybody. You made 997 01:10:09.119 --> 01:10:11.600 one phone call and you got twenty friends over here. What the hell's going 998 01:10:11.640 --> 01:10:15.479 on? Our trips across the country were always pretty similar, Like when we 999 01:10:15.520 --> 01:10:18.239 would drive to Vegas together, we would take a short first day and drive 1000 01:10:18.279 --> 01:10:23.760 into Ohio and we would stay with Jim and Kathy Mueller. Jim is gone 1001 01:10:24.039 --> 01:10:29.880 and a former announcer for the Cleveland Browns as well as NASCAR, but Jim 1002 01:10:30.039 --> 01:10:32.560 was my dad's closest friend for a very long time. We would stop there, 1003 01:10:32.760 --> 01:10:35.079 we would play golf. We would eat, we'd get up, we 1004 01:10:35.119 --> 01:10:41.199 would drive to Saint Louis and stay at bow Burton's house had a full gym 1005 01:10:41.279 --> 01:10:44.439 in his basement. He lived on the eighth hole of the of the golf 1006 01:10:44.479 --> 01:10:47.119 course that in this gated community in the Saint Louis area, You son of 1007 01:10:47.199 --> 01:10:50.520 a bitch. Mother. Third day we would drive to we would drive to 1008 01:10:50.520 --> 01:10:54.960 Albuquerque. We would stay with Gary Skidmore, go bowling in his bowling alley. 1009 01:10:55.000 --> 01:10:58.000 I mean road trips to me, being in a car that long, 1010 01:10:58.039 --> 01:11:00.920 they're very, very fun because you get to experience this is like, yeah, 1011 01:11:00.920 --> 01:11:04.119 you're going to amusement parks every day almost. I mean, I'm it's 1012 01:11:04.199 --> 01:11:09.560 it's it's a You stayed at bo Burton's house, you bastard. Yeah, 1013 01:11:10.560 --> 01:11:13.600 I sure did so. Jealous I was. Yeah, the four kids, 1014 01:11:13.960 --> 01:11:17.439 Katrina, Nikki, Nelson, and Brett. I think the two girls were 1015 01:11:17.479 --> 01:11:21.399 there, and I believe Brett was there. I didn't see the Nikki or 1016 01:11:23.159 --> 01:11:27.800 Nelson Junior or Nelson the third. It's not there. But picture this out, 1017 01:11:27.840 --> 01:11:31.359 Joe, he's playing fucking siper Yer Brothers with with Michael J. Fox. 1018 01:11:31.600 --> 01:11:35.960 Yeah, he's fucking sleeping at Bo Burton's house. Randy Pearce is breaking 1019 01:11:36.000 --> 01:11:40.199 his fucking bed. I mean a life, Orioley, Yeah, such a 1020 01:11:40.600 --> 01:11:44.760 tough life. I'm telling you. It was fun. Man. It's definitely 1021 01:11:44.840 --> 01:11:46.920 one of the things that drives me crazy with with the new life. I 1022 01:11:47.000 --> 01:11:51.520 mean, if I could, I would probably go back out on tour simply 1023 01:11:51.600 --> 01:11:56.039 because I want to travel. I want to get back in my car with 1024 01:11:56.159 --> 01:11:59.520 my two suitcases and travel to different cities for a year. I have traveling 1025 01:11:59.520 --> 01:12:02.800 buddies, like they all travel together and buddies, but be around fans that 1026 01:12:02.880 --> 01:12:06.760 are that are still into bowling, that that would like to learn something from 1027 01:12:06.840 --> 01:12:12.479 me that I have at least knowledge of. And it's it's it's fulfilling too 1028 01:12:12.560 --> 01:12:14.920 though, That's the thing. I mean, it's so each time there's something 1029 01:12:14.960 --> 01:12:16.960 to look forward to. You know, you're not going to one place, 1030 01:12:17.000 --> 01:12:19.880 staying in a dingy hotel, going boy, I hope I make a check. 1031 01:12:19.960 --> 01:12:24.800 No, you're actually like, uh, bouncing around and around, and 1032 01:12:25.079 --> 01:12:30.079 it's fulfilling for you because you're also doing something for yourself definitely. And what's 1033 01:12:30.119 --> 01:12:32.800 great about it is a lot of times, man, in this in the 1034 01:12:32.920 --> 01:12:36.600 smallest, most random cities, you meet some of the most wonderful people. 1035 01:12:38.079 --> 01:12:41.399 True. There was this little ship home the Wall bowling out that we bowled 1036 01:12:41.439 --> 01:12:45.319 a regional at I had. I lost to Ryan Schaeffer in the second round. 1037 01:12:46.119 --> 01:12:49.159 Um. I can't remember what the health state was in. I want 1038 01:12:49.199 --> 01:12:53.119 to say it was in like a section of New York that was very royal, 1039 01:12:53.239 --> 01:12:55.720 like very cow pastrol. I've been to a bunch of those, like 1040 01:12:55.840 --> 01:13:01.800 Oneonta something something like that. Yeah, want to stay like West. It 1041 01:13:01.960 --> 01:13:06.159 wasn't like West Haverstraw where where Danielle McEwen is it was. But anyway, 1042 01:13:06.680 --> 01:13:11.239 just the nicest people in that bowling center, a little old Rundown Wooden bowling 1043 01:13:11.279 --> 01:13:15.359 alley too, really sweet bartenders invited us all back to for a barbecue after 1044 01:13:15.439 --> 01:13:16.880 the tournament. Like, you meet a lot of great people when you get 1045 01:13:16.920 --> 01:13:21.680 the opportunity to travel, and especially in bowlers no bowlers, So if you're 1046 01:13:21.680 --> 01:13:25.960 ever in a bowling alley and pretty much any state, a bowler will recognize 1047 01:13:26.000 --> 01:13:29.199 you and it makes for at least something to do in the city. People 1048 01:13:29.199 --> 01:13:31.319 are so willing to say, hey, you know, this is a great 1049 01:13:31.359 --> 01:13:34.880 burger place, or stay at this hotel because it's it's a better this is 1050 01:13:34.920 --> 01:13:38.760 a bad. Part of the time, you get to learn more. That's 1051 01:13:38.800 --> 01:13:42.000 why whenever I would go overseas, the first person I would ever call is 1052 01:13:42.039 --> 01:13:45.720 Time's Tim mac Is. Because he's been everywhere a million times. I know 1053 01:13:45.840 --> 01:13:48.399 what to do in each country. Well, Jeff said, you can stay 1054 01:13:48.399 --> 01:13:51.039 with him and Tampa. They want to talk about that, buddy, because 1055 01:13:51.079 --> 01:13:57.039 there's still an off chance that I'm considering coming back to the East Coast. 1056 01:13:57.199 --> 01:14:01.680 I'm like this close and I'm thinking about but like this time for me, 1057 01:14:02.319 --> 01:14:05.319 just I want to be back near my bowling family. I want to be 1058 01:14:05.439 --> 01:14:10.720 back with Steph, with Sonny, with Troy. I want to commit to 1059 01:14:10.800 --> 01:14:15.720 bowling tournaments on the weekends. I want to be around people who have similar 1060 01:14:15.560 --> 01:14:21.319 qualities and loves that I do. And it's it's the leaning Tower of Pizza 1061 01:14:21.520 --> 01:14:25.760 keeps going it into more of this direction. Can I ask you what brought 1062 01:14:25.840 --> 01:14:28.119 you that? Because you know a couple of skill You're talking about how much 1063 01:14:28.319 --> 01:14:30.800 you know bowling. You've not hate bowling, but I mean you lost your 1064 01:14:30.840 --> 01:14:34.159 passionate but now now you kind of want to get back into it. So 1065 01:14:35.119 --> 01:14:42.079 just curious people because of the people anybody bowling it was it was it was 1066 01:14:42.199 --> 01:14:49.680 his relationship. It wasn't big camaraderie that that wasn't it wasn't it was just 1067 01:14:49.840 --> 01:14:54.039 bowling in particular, the camaraderie the people. He said, it was everything 1068 01:14:54.079 --> 01:14:57.880 gay he got he got from bowling, if that's his right. Yeah, 1069 01:14:58.000 --> 01:15:01.680 And not to mention just I don't care where you're from. But the truth 1070 01:15:01.720 --> 01:15:06.399 of the matter is is the warmth of East of East Coast people. It's 1071 01:15:06.520 --> 01:15:13.880 it's very it's very different people, definitely people people people stick together and migrate 1072 01:15:13.960 --> 01:15:18.560 around together, and I'm yeah, sometimes you just want to go where everybody 1073 01:15:18.920 --> 01:15:23.760 an Asian name, Well that's everywhere for you, so right, Yeah, 1074 01:15:23.840 --> 01:15:27.439 but they don't make them like they do with with that that group. There's 1075 01:15:27.760 --> 01:15:30.319 there's a there's a batch of them in the Saint Louis area that that would 1076 01:15:30.359 --> 01:15:34.319 have been like that. That's number two for me. But my heart and 1077 01:15:35.239 --> 01:15:39.840 distance from my parents, getting a little bit older, my sister's married, 1078 01:15:40.079 --> 01:15:43.119 putting an addition on her house. I'm sure she'll be pregnant soon. I'm 1079 01:15:43.760 --> 01:15:46.840 those are the things that I'm like, almost forty now that I'm I'm ready 1080 01:15:46.880 --> 01:15:50.840 to be around and really Ocho misses you. I mean, let's let's be 1081 01:15:50.920 --> 01:15:54.680 honest. Yeah, seriously, I'd have somebody to hang out with all the 1082 01:15:54.760 --> 01:16:00.199 time. You just wish you didn't live in like fucking Keynesburg's bed, bad 1083 01:16:00.319 --> 01:16:04.279 child, ill man. I'm in my own Ochoville. Oh yeah, So 1084 01:16:04.720 --> 01:16:09.359 all right, it's it's definitely ah, yeah, it's it's definitely a possibility. 1085 01:16:09.439 --> 01:16:14.880 I'm thinking maybe maybe one more summer here, Yeah, spend, spend. 1086 01:16:15.039 --> 01:16:18.119 I actually I have a golf date with with Shay bidden Bender and a 1087 01:16:18.159 --> 01:16:21.680 couple of guys in the scheit at the end of September, So it'll probably 1088 01:16:21.720 --> 01:16:26.439 be after that because honestly, October and November back home, there's still some 1089 01:16:26.560 --> 01:16:30.079 pretty nice months to be home. True, No, that's true. Um, 1090 01:16:30.800 --> 01:16:34.680 I missed like my old stomping grounds of Connecticut and Boston and upstate New 1091 01:16:34.760 --> 01:16:38.279 York. It's to go to low on Rhode Island. Um, but I 1092 01:16:38.840 --> 01:16:42.239 don't know if i'd want to live here again. It's too uh too, 1093 01:16:42.880 --> 01:16:45.560 I don't want to get political. Too expensive for one. I'll just I'll 1094 01:16:45.600 --> 01:16:49.239 just say that. But what is I like it Downstad going back Northeast. 1095 01:16:49.319 --> 01:16:53.119 It's just I don't know if I don't know if i'd want to do it 1096 01:16:53.159 --> 01:16:57.560 again. But I love living in the South. It's you're in you're in 1097 01:16:57.600 --> 01:17:00.720 a good spot where you're out. Yeah yeah for and it's way cheaper, 1098 01:17:02.119 --> 01:17:09.560 wicked cheaper, so uho's gonna attend to the kids. So we're just kind 1099 01:17:09.600 --> 01:17:12.399 of good. It was a good show. Well, we'll keep everybody informed 1100 01:17:12.439 --> 01:17:17.000 on and obviously everybody will be informed because everybody's informed in the social media age. 1101 01:17:17.079 --> 01:17:20.840 But we'll talk about it as as more goes on. 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