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In today's episode. You know,
Shelley's taking the lead on this one.

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M what you got. Oh,
we've got an update from my living situation.

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We've got conference wrap up, not
lock to it always a treat,

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boring as usual. We've got a
Shelley's journal journey which I just read through

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and I'm yelling I was so fucking
stupid, So it'll be a good one.

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Yeah, yeah, And I have
a letter to read. Well,

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shit, I guess we should get
to all that after the break. Let's

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do it all right, be right
back. Hey, everybody, welcome to

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Letter Day Lesbian, a podcast about
the next morning gay girl just try to

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figure out her life him Mary,
I'm Shelly. I guess we're being singing

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songy today. Sometimes I just gotta
do that. Then I feel better.

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I feel better. Good, So
we can move on. Didn't know you

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felt worse? We can move on
from the sing song part of the program.

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Good mixed up jazz hands your favorite? Yeah, yeah, always So

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those of you who were not aware
the living situation with Mary and I,

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we recently moved out of the house
that we shared together and Mary is now

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in an apartment closer to work with
a well we'll be moving in like a

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month around the corner on the same
floor to an apartment with room for a

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studio. We really need a studio
again. Yeah, this is a goofy

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setup. Dan likes it because we're
further apart. I feel so far from

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you. I know, it's like
I can't I can see you through a

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bunch of wires and closet padding.
Um, yeah, I know. Yeah,

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Mary's in a closet, and then
I'm in the closet on the other

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side of the hall and there's sweaters. A strange closet configuration. Yeah,

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yeah, yeah, you're surrounded by
my clothing cloth. Anyway, So Mary

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will be in the apartment with a
studio. I from the house that we

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shared, moved to an apartment complex
because at the time. Okay, it's

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expensive as shit in northern Virginia.
I'm just gonna throw that out there.

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It's starting to sound like a long
story. It's it's I just go back

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and listen to the Scandal sessions about
your apartment. They're not all Scandal subscribers

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sessions. God damn it. If
you want all the download the dirt,

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please subscribe. How do we do
that? Mary? Oh? You can

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go to our website Latter day Lesbian
dot org, slash support support support good,

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Yeah, to get more of the
dirt, the download, the behind

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the scenes. Yeah. Can I
just sum this up? It's taking you

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far too No. No, you
ended up moving into a crappy apartment unbeknownst

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to you. Yes, it was
a shit hole. It was a complete

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shit hole. It was and there
will be. There's more in depth in

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scandals. Yeah, so you got
out of it. I did. But

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the thing that I wanted to point
out about that um is that this is

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the point that I'm getting to marry
Jesus Christ. I'm just drinking my coffee.

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Yep. Oh, I'm drinking my
Apostate coffee quick plug yeahst coffee,

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do it. I love those ladies, by the way. Oh yeah,

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go to Apostate Coffee dot com for
ten percent off your order. That's always

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handy. I'm drinking out of dark
Roast right now. Oh hell yeah,

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wait, you said go to their
website for ten percent off. They have

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to type in oh they do.
Okay, you have to enter LDL at

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check out. There we go.
You know all were plugging people, we

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should plug Exmo candleco. Hell yeah, the gay away the prey candle.

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Yes, m it's a good one. I love the smell. We need

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to get another one, by the
way, I think we burnt through it.

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Oh yeah, we kept on getting
away the game that breinson the candle

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was gone. Although they do last
a very long time, they do.

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They're high quality candles. Yeah,
but when you are ritualistically ganging away the

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prey and you light it every time, then you need another one. Jen,

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are you listen? Hint, hint, hint. By the way,

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for those of you who have not
seen Mary's awesome TikTok, I guess commercial

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that you put it to a video. It's a video because it's on TikTok.

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That was pretty funny. She wrote
it, she's the actress in it.

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And it promotes the candles. Did
it did all the things? Yeah,

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it does promote the candles. If
you would like to check out all

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the funny candles and awesomely smelling candle
We picked up the scent. We did

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that one. We made that shit. Yep, we sure did, with

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the help of the XMO candle co
people. Jen and her husband, Uh

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sorry, Jen, mister candles,
mister candles, Jen and mister Candles.

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Why am I blanking on his name
because it's not like Tom. You know,

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something something unusual, unusual. Maybe
it's Adrian and they doesn't she give

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him a like little nickname. I
don't know, let's go with Adrian.

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If we're wrong, whatever, suck
it up, mister Candles. To you

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please visit XMO candles dot com.
Yes, and check out all the yummy

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funny fragrances. Yes, said a
thing. It is yummy funny. Now

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you're yummy funny. Anyway, back
to my story, Jesus. Okay,

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So being in this apartment was like
hell, oh yeah, so bad,

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so bad. And that the reason
that I that I chose the apartment when

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I did was I needed something with
three bedrooms, right yeah, that's hard

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to come by, super hard to
come by because it's so expensive around here.

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So I found the only three bedroom
apartments in the area, right sure

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that you could afford exactly exactly.
It was hell from day one, mice

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awful. It was horrible. I
mean, whatever, trash, trust us,

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it's so bad, horrible. I
should post the letter that I wrote.

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Anyway, So here's here's the point
I'm getting too. Finally, I

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felt trapped, shut it. I
felt trapped. It was horrible. I

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went away to Las Vegas forum like
a long weekend for work, and so

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Mary had the dogs with her,
so there were no dogs in there to

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like kill the mice. Yeah.
I didn't want to stay there. No.

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Yeah. So I came home,
opened the door and it was like

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just reeked of mouse shit and urine
and probably dead mouse and surely dead mice.

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And is one of them named Shirley? Surely? So I walked around

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and there and they were just chew
holes in everything. There was poop along

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the sofa along the top like where
your head goes. There was poop in

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the kid's rooms, on their clothes, and I'm like, that is it.

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I can do this. I can't. I have to figure something out.

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I went to the leasing office and
I sat down with one of the

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people that I'm like, okay,
so I need to break my lease.

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What are the terms? What do
we do here? She's like, yeah,

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yeah, no problem. So if
you break your lease now you pay

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us for two months. So you
have to give a sixty day notice,

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which fuck that most places are thirty
like most normal places. Right anyway,

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Well, when you break a lease, I think it gets funky. Well

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great, that wasn't the If it
was just that, I would have been

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like, okay, cool, let's
go. But so you break the lease.

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Now you give sixty days notice.
You have to pay for all of

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those sixty days right then and there, and then at the end of the

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sixty days, when you move out, you have to pay for two additional

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months. Yeah, it's so weird
after you're gone and you have to pay

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both of those months on that day
that you mo ab out. It's like

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I felt so trapped and stuck and
I'm doing the mask in my head.

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It's like twelve thousand dollars ridiculous,
plus having to come up with money for

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another place first and last month's I
took what she said as like, those

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are the rules, that's what we
do. Yeah, right, So I

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went into a panic and I'm like, how am I going to scramble up

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and find twelve thousand dollars, which
that's a fucking lot of money, and

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you don't just like, oh,
I didn't know I had that in my

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savings. I don't have a savings
account, by the way, I have

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no savings, so there's nothing.
And I was like, do I borrow

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something from my eggs? Do I
try to get some kind of you know,

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early inheritance from my parents, which
was kind of weird because they're not

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dead yet. I mean, you
did ask your brothers and they're like,

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no, sorry, yeah, yeah, yes, And I felt defeated.

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I was just like, I'm stuck
here. My kids have to be in

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this shit hole. We were out
chatting it up with Diana. Remember Diana,

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you need to have her on again. And I'm telling talking about this

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and she's like, why are you
there? Right? Like that's fucked up.

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You need to you need to get
out of there. And Mary too

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has been like, you need to
get out of there, you know what.

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I think I was in that same
boat. I'm like, well,

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when you break a lease, you
just have to deal with the penalties.

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I've broken a lease before two and
I just dealt with the penalties. Like

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I wasn't thinking, no, I'm
not gonna take this anymore, Like my

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brain wasn't quite there because you broke
like a normal lease where you weren't living

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in filth and trash, danger and
exactly cables and like dogs shit everywhere,

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like anyway, So I want to
say thank you to all of those on

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social media and in person who really
like bolstered my confidence in getting out of

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this lease because I believe and I
take this back to my being worn and

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raised as a female Mormon. Or
you don't question authority, you don't fight

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back, you take what's given to
you. You stay quiet. You have

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zero confidence in being able to fight
back against something, even no matter how

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unfair it is, or to even
take it on, Oh for sure,

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Like you just don't right, And
I have to say, I'm just gonna

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throw this. I'm very proud of
myself. Yeah, And that's a good

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thing to be because thanks to everyone, I was able to be like,

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yeah, you know what, you
know what, fuck them, Fuck them.

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I don't have to live in this
shit hole. I don't have to

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have my kids like afraid that there's
mouse poop on there. I mean,

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and I'm a clean person, that's
the thing. It's not. It's not

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like I leave stuff everywhere and the
mice are like eating cracker crumbs it all

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over the floor. Now, this
was put away in a pantry, yeah

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yeah, yeah. And while I
was there, I kept it at bay

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Ish because a domino was killing like
a mouse a day and I was sweeping

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and cleaning. But then when I
was out of town for a weekend,

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yeah, boom. Anyway, so
what I did was I got online and

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I researched the laws in Virginia,
the tenant landlord laws where no, you're

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right, you're no, you're And
again, that's something I would never have

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done, right, It wouldn't have
even occurred to me to educate myself on

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how I can fix a horrible situation
just fucking deal with it. Yeah,

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And so I did that. I
found the laws. I contacted a friend

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whose husband is a lawyer. He's
not a tenant landlord lawyer, but he

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can re law and shit right,
talk to him a little bit. He

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looked over the laws too, and
he's like, yeah, you definitely have

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a case, okay. And so
I took a day and I wandered around

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the whole place inside it, and
I took pictures of all the fucked up

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shit. We've got broken glass around
the pool, We've got exposed wires everywhere

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in the building. There was garbage
in the pool. Oh yeah, when

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the kids acme in the pool out
law just pretend it's a pond. I

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mean it was. And the crazy
thing is if you go on the website,

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everything is Yeah, it looks lies. The website lies. I know.

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I was tempted to just make like
a snarky fake website, like,

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well, how it really is,
Like steal their nice pictures and like put

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in what it actually is. Oh
yeah yeah, yeah, like use their

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layout, put in shitty pictures.
It's going to change all the descriptions to

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like being really shitty and then be
like here's your new website and here's how

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it is actually fixed it. Yeah, because this is a Matan switch situation.

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Oh and then they fuck you like
literally twelve thousand dollars to move out,

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essentially, and that's before me having
to come up with the money for

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first and last month's rent deposit for
a new place, right, so just

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to leave that shit. So I
got all these pictures together, I went

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through all of my maintenance reports that
I had made to maintenance. Um like

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the mouth the mouth shit, and
the broken the AC was broken, oh

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week, the ac was broken.
Summer. Your washer dryer, which is

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a combo thing. I don't recommend
those things. Washer dryer and one not

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efficient efficient It takes like five hours
to do a load of launch. Oh

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yeah, yeah, oh you know
what I did. I say this,

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So the washer dryer broke right,
So I can't do laundry. So I

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tried to go use like the laundry
room where there's like pay laundry things.

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You go in there and there's like
fifty of them and three of them work

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maybe maybe this place, And of
course they're never open because someone is using

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one of the three sum and there
was that's where there was just exposed wires

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like you see the copper wires sticking
out, not capped off at all,

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just like here you go. So
I was pissed that I couldn't do laundry.

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So I knew that the one of
the problems was is when I had

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maintenance come in. Here's how that
part began. Keep up people. Oh

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my god, it smelled like dead
mice under the washer dryer big time.

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But the washer dryers so heavy,
I couldn't pull it away to clean up

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the dead mice. So maintenance dude
came, pulled it away, told me

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I didn't want to see all the
dead mice there, clean him up,

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pushed it back in. Then I
tried to do some laundry, and then

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it started to leak. It was
leaking into the basement. It was leaking

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into the basement and into my kitchen. So that's why Knute was broken.

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That's where we begin. That was
your first clue. That was my first

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clue. So then I went away
to Vegas right came back and there was

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a note in there saying they have
to order apart for the laundry, the

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washshry dry. Yeah, I hear
nothing. I hear nothing. They don't

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care. I'm like leaving more mesuge. I'm like, you know what,

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fuck them, I'm doing laundry.
That'll show them. So I started a

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load of laundry, knowing I'm gonna
flood the fuck out of this place.

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And I sure did. The laundry
was going for like twenty minutes and I

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get a knock on the or I
get a phone call for maintenance. He's

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like, hey, um, yeah, are you doing laundry? Sure?

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fixed it. No, No,
he was up right away, boom fixed

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it. Like why do I have
to flood your fucking basement to any I

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know? Huh. Let's get back
to you getting out of you wrote a

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letter. Okay, I'm trying to
keep us on target. Here were fifty

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minutes. It's great, it's great, we'll still have time for my journal

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journey. It's that. So I
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maintenance requests, like highlighted the dates, blah blah blah. Then I got

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the Virginia Code right, put that
on there too. I just put what

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the code was, like, they
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You were citing sections of the code. Oh, I know. I like

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the word pursuant pursuantto code. I've
never used that word so many times in

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my life. Then I did,
did you feel like you're ready to take

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the bar? Now? Very close? Very close? So I got this

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document when I had it certified like
notorized, I mean notorized. So now

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it's fucking official and scary. She's
big lawyery words. And then I sent

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that letter certified mail saying basically,
y'all are breaking the law. I'm the

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fuck out of here. So I
waited, waited, waited. The one

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guy called me back. He's like, oh, yeah, I received that,

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and you talk to management blah blah
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heard back from them, and so
then I'm thinking they're just gonna fucking draft

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my account for this for the next
month's rent, and I'm not going to

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be I'm not going to be here. I'm out the door because I couldn't

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remove my bank account from there.
Now that was weird. It was weird

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there. It's like they were going
to give my money. So I took

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all the money out of that bank
account, all you know, four dollars

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out of yeah, and then I
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and then said it was something like, I do not give permission for

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trillium Yeah, Trillium apartments. If
anyone's listening, Trillium apartments in fairfaxts to

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draft any money. Blah blash sent
that motherfucker weight off to and I felt

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more and more empowered the more I
was like, boom, take that.

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Bastards to take that. And so
then I get a letter or an email

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from their staff saying, you know, we'll waive the two month penalty.

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You can just do thirty days and
so you can move out and then pay

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all of October. And then I'm
going, hmm, you know. I

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gave my thirty day notice on September
twenty second, which means I should only

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have to pay till October twenty second, right, and it's really worth a

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fight, Like it's just a few
more days whatever, and then I'm going

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to fuck that shit. So I
send them a letter and I'm like,

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pursue it too, pursue it where
by the law you only have to do

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thirty days if you're moving out because
it's a ship hole. So I came

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back to him on that one and
the guy came back. He's like,

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oh, yeah, we'll pro rate
boom fuck yeah, fucking fucking yeah.

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Yeah. I felt so good about
the fact that I stood up for myself

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and I almost didn't. I was
crumbling. I was just gonna deal with

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it because I have not been taught
to fight back, to stand up for

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myself. Yeah, I'm just taught
to all those are the rules, that's

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what you do, and you can't
you know, can't buck the system.

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Can't buck the system. So yeah, I got out of that fucking place.

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I got the fuck out of that
fucking place. I found a house

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which is perfect for me and my
kids, and in the same school trick

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that all my kids are in right
now. I know it's a tender mercy.

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It is a tender mercy. It
is a tender mercy. So that's

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my trillium story, and I want
to ask listeners either discuss it on the

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you know, the what's it called
lesbian podcast discussion? Black what because of

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your Mormon upbringing? What are things
that you have just put up with in

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your life because you didn't you didn't
know that you could say no. You

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didn't feel like you had the power
to come back at it. You know,

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I got the power it's getting it's
getting Is it getting kind of heavier,

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getting kind of hectic? Oh oh
yeah, I think it's hectic.

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Maybe anyway, you got the power. Yeah. So I was talking to

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Mary this morning. We were just
out with the dogs and we were talking

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about what we were going to talk
about now, and I said, well,

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what did you just fucking have to
put up with because you didn't think

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that you could fight back when you
were being raised religiously right. And it's

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different from me because I had a
parent, Well, I had a parent

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that was brainwashed and then I had
a parent that didn't buy any of it,

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And so I had both messages at
the same time. Confusing as fuck

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for a really long time. Sure, but then I think because I had

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that voice of reason ye kind of
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upbringing. It allowed me to make
choices for myself. Yeah. I knew

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that I could because my father didn't
cave just because my mother was found Jesus

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after they got married and dragged us
all to church except for him. He

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never went to church never ever,
the whole time I knew him never went

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to church because he didn't believe it. Yeah, and so I knew that

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I knew there were options, yeah, right, And I think that made

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all the difference. Yeah. So
I know people have asked me like,

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well, how is it for you
marrying your faith crisis? And it was

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different from my sisters. If anyone
listened to the scandal session with my sister,

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you can tell that we just have
a different outlook about our upbringing.

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You know, it was differ refresh. She worked at the Christian Broadcasting Network

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as an adult. Like, well, and there's a age difference too,

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There's four years between us. It's
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don't know, I don't know.
I just I just uh saw my father's

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path and followed after him. I
think, you know, that was an

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option for me. So there you
go. There, I feel very fortunate.

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Yeah, thanks dad, Yeah,
yeah, gave me a different point

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of view, you know, and
you didn't have that. I didn't you

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have one point of view. I
had one point of view. Obviously I

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had teachers that weren't Mormon, but
just different. It's different when like your

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parents, your grandparents, all you
grants and uncles, everyone that you've known

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as a child growing up, that
you look up to, they all shared

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the same Mormon belief, which is
we know what that is, and it's

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you can't bend it. You can't
bend that belief when you're when you're raised

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that way. So yeah, that's
my success story of learning. That's awesome

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confidence. Thank you. And you
know I've seen you over the years,

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I've known you five years, just
gain more and more confidence. Remember the

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gazebo we put together a time.
Yeah, and you just were like I

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did this. Yeah. I never
used to give up on project. I

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did when it was it get hard, It would get hard on my might,

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like get my husband to do it
right, you know, because I

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saw that growing up. My mom
never did anything. Sure, my dad

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did all of the things. So
in my mind, doing things is hard.

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When it gets hard, you just
get a man to do it.

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And the fact that I was like, just went on ahead and kept working

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on that gazebo with a thousand screws
and nuts and ship. It was heavy

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too. It was heavy. Oh, we need to thank Diana again for

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her and Ben's help on that gaz
holding it. And Lincoln, if you're

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listening, my son, didn't he
come? Yeah? Yeah, I think

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so as a while ago. Yeah, So my question posing to our listeners

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is what things again did you just
fucking put up with because you thought you

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had to because of your Mormon upbringing. Never really had thought about that that

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much. Know. It's funny,
how, you know, the longer we

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do this podcast, Yeah, we're
we're not strictly telling your story of leaving

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the church and your marriage and the
whole deal anymore. That's been told,

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right, But then things pop up
that make you think of your upbringing in

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the way you were taught and how
you have You're still encountering things, yeah,

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that are baked in from your upbringing
that you're now overturning, let's say,

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or you're you're rethinking it in a
new way. Yeah, you know,

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this is not a one and done
situation. This is going to be

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happening. I think the rest of
your life, I would imagine. So

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I don't think that you your race
forty years of brainwashing in an afternoon,

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or even five years. No,
I know, and it feels good.

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It feels really really. I was
so celebratory I went into work when all

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afterwards all I was like dancing around
and my co workers were high fiving me

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because they know my background, right, so people to see that in me,

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they're just they just cheer for me. And I love that. Thank

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you for every who's cheered for me
in this matter. Yeah, and you

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know it's uplifting to anyone else who
is thinking, oh my gosh, raise

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your hand, listener, if you're
like, that's me. I don't have

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confidence. I don't think I can
accomplish things. I don't. I wasn't

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taught that I had power Yeah within
me that could challenge anything. You know.

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Yeah, if that's you, guess
what, there's hope. Yes,

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look at Shelley. Thank you,
Shelley. Once again, you are a

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role model. You are thank you, you are inspirational. You are let's

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make out later. Okay, all
right, it's too hard to reach you

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right this second. I know you're
way over there. Later we'll make out

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later. Okay, we're done long
distance making it? Yes, okay,

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well should we consider taking a litt
commercial break before we get into this conference?

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Wrap up, let's do it.
Okay, be right back, We're

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back. Hello. Conference Conference October
twenty twenty two. General Accummierrance of the

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Church or Jesus of Latter day Saints. I still don't know why they do

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these things twice a year. What
do they have to talk about? They

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just regurgitate shit, nothing's new.
Which, by the way, I was

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in the dollar store the other day
getting Halloween decorations and the lady there,

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the checkout lady, these two missionaries
were in there talking to her. Oh

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my, and I kept hearing them
saying, you know, so, yeah,

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did you get a chance to watch
conference? Did you get a chance?

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And I'm thinking, why it will
never work getting people to watch conference

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and then have them suddenly want to
be Mormon. Conferences are the most boring

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fucking thing on the planet. You
know, I was on the fence,

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but I saw these white guys talking
put me right over the edge. Well,

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while speaking of white guys, guess
what October twenty twenty two. The

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church became super progressive because they allowed
a black woman to speak what twenty two?

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They're fine, They're like, let's
let's lead the way in progressivism,

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progressivism. And I felt bad for
the black lady because as they made her

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call herself Tracy, why browning,
like you have to put an initial in

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there? Oh, it's stupid.
I don't understand. Yeah, I don't

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know, And I don't understand how
any African American person would want to be

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part of this cult. It's bizarre
to me. I don't or gay for

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that matter, queer. I just
I don't get it. Everyone's on their

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own journey. Sure, but I
myself cannot comprehend this. Well. You

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know, I scratch my head a
lot of the times about lots of things

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and kid that don't make sense,
especially in more minutes. No. Right,

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So here's our wrap up conference.
Boring a shit. Nobody cares.

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There's just it's bullshit, obviously.
But we have a great, great,

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great quote from Jeffrey R. Holland. He says, I know many who

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wrestle with wrenching matters of identity,
gender, and sexuality. Does he really

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know them? No? Who does
he know? I thought, I'm like,

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he should say I know of them, he read about it one time.

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Yeah he doesn't know. No,
fucking Jeffrey. I weep for them,

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and I weep with them, knowing
how significant the consequences of their decisions

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will be for the fuck yeah first
of all, fuck you. Second of

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all, when someone is I don't
want to say wrestling with because we shouldn't

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have to wrestle with our identity.
We are who we are, right,

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we sure because the wrestle typically is
like will I be accepted? Right?

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And that's how hopell I tell my
family, Yes, that's right. So

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when he's like, I'm crying for
you because I know, um, if

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you make the wrong choice, your
life is fucked forever. That's basically what

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I feel from this. Now.
What it should say is, Jeffrey,

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our Holland should be like, I
weep for you because my organization is so

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fucked up that we have caused you, lovely people to want to not be

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here anymore. But now or be
yourself? Yeah yeah, yeah, be

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here is in like die by suicide? Well for sure, I picked up

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on that. Okay, I wish
it wasn't even a thing. I wish

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it wasn't even something that people had
to struggle with decisions in as you struggle

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with your decision on whether or not
to be a sinner. Yeah, that's

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what that feels like. Yeah,
Oh, you're struggling with your decision to

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give into your sin and go to
hell. I weep for that because it's

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gonna be a rough road for you
going to hell. Well that's the implication.

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Yeah, exactly, So fuck you, motherfucker. That's from Jeffrey R.

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Holland. Um, I'm scrolling to
the talks. I don't listen anymore.

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I just kind of scroll through,
and there was one by David A.

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Bednar and the title is put on
Thy Strength. Isn't he the earring

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guy? He has problems with ear
rings? Yes, too many arrings,

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Yes to any earrings? Too many
holes? Never enough holes. Anyway,

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the name of his talk was put
on Thy Strength O Zion. That's just

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a stupid ass name. I didn't
even read it. I'm like, I

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can't. The fuck is wrong with
people? Hey, no, what he

408
00:27:00.319 --> 00:27:03.519
talks like this and you're arrogant to
call utah zion. I'm sorry, he's

409
00:27:03.640 --> 00:27:07.960
arrogant. End of story, period. Yes, that's appropriation. It's true.

410
00:27:08.079 --> 00:27:11.240
It is. It is. There's
nothing about Utah that's in Zion.

411
00:27:11.559 --> 00:27:15.000
I'm sorry, you know, not
a damn thing. No, not a

412
00:27:15.079 --> 00:27:18.960
damn thing. It's arrogance. You're
exactly right. An arrogant person would use

413
00:27:18.000 --> 00:27:22.440
that to name his talk anyway,
fuck him, And the whole thing is

414
00:27:22.640 --> 00:27:27.000
arrogant. Mormonism is arrogant. Yes, absolutely. Lastly, Oh, you

415
00:27:27.039 --> 00:27:30.039
didn't want to talk about anything,
Bednar said, No, the title is

416
00:27:30.079 --> 00:27:36.680
so stupid. I didn't even read
the title. Oh my dear God,

417
00:27:37.839 --> 00:27:40.519
all right, that's what I was
doing. I didn't even bother reading it.

418
00:27:40.599 --> 00:27:44.640
Just the title was like, seriously, people talk like this. Finally,

419
00:27:45.839 --> 00:27:48.559
what I have here is apparently there
were some new temples announced. You

420
00:27:48.599 --> 00:27:52.079
guys know how I feel about temples. It's just fucking a waste of me.

421
00:27:52.200 --> 00:27:56.880
Yeah, So apparently a temple was
announced and a family member of mine

422
00:27:56.920 --> 00:28:00.720
I'm not going to say names,
distant family member, this person says,

423
00:28:00.279 --> 00:28:04.000
my heart is so full tonight.
God. When you start like that,

424
00:28:04.079 --> 00:28:10.079
and it's throw uk emoji. It
was an amazing general conference listening to the

425
00:28:10.160 --> 00:28:15.960
Lord's prophet, apostles and leaders of
the church. Puke emoji A new temple

426
00:28:17.119 --> 00:28:18.920
for the Church or Jesus Christ of
Latter Day's Saints, such a long thing

427
00:28:18.960 --> 00:28:22.880
to type out was announced that we'll
be built less than ten minutes from our

428
00:28:22.920 --> 00:28:29.240
old house in Las Vegas. I
literally cheered when the new temple was announced

429
00:28:29.240 --> 00:28:33.759
and then cried, oh my god, part it is such a blessing,

430
00:28:33.640 --> 00:28:37.480
is it? Let's talk about what
the fuck a this person doesn't even live

431
00:28:37.519 --> 00:28:41.799
there anymore. Okay, but just
like, oh, they built an So

432
00:28:41.839 --> 00:28:47.000
they threw another lots of millions of
dollars to a big building, a useless

433
00:28:47.000 --> 00:28:52.200
building with millions of dollars worth of
decorations and shit for the teeny tiniest percentage

434
00:28:52.200 --> 00:28:55.680
of population who will be able to
go in there and do fake shit for

435
00:28:55.720 --> 00:29:00.400
dead people. And we're celebrating.
Shelley starting to think it's I'm leaning,

436
00:29:02.240 --> 00:29:06.599
definitely leaning. Meanwhile, the church
is sitting on one hundred and sixty plus

437
00:29:06.680 --> 00:29:11.119
billion dollars and they're like, well, let's make more temples. Well I

438
00:29:11.119 --> 00:29:14.759
don't understand, And why is it
a blessing? Why are you weeping over

439
00:29:15.319 --> 00:29:18.039
such a waste of money? Think
about how many people could be helped with

440
00:29:18.039 --> 00:29:22.839
that money? Church didn't help people
stop awful. So I remember when I

441
00:29:22.839 --> 00:29:26.680
was super indoctrinated, I celebrated when
temples were built because that was a sign

442
00:29:26.680 --> 00:29:30.240
of the church, like rolling forward
and being like, weird, the true

443
00:29:30.319 --> 00:29:32.839
church, look at us, we
have all these temples. It was like

444
00:29:32.880 --> 00:29:36.720
I cheered for the church. They
were my team, and so any kind

445
00:29:36.759 --> 00:29:41.319
of you know, opening new missions
or new temples like that was like,

446
00:29:41.400 --> 00:29:45.720
yeah, we are the one true
Church. So you can understand why this

447
00:29:45.799 --> 00:29:48.119
person would write first on Facebook?
No, no, no, of course

448
00:29:48.160 --> 00:29:49.799
I can. I understand it because
that's I was a dumb ass too once

449
00:29:49.880 --> 00:29:53.799
upon a time. Yeah, but
I just it's so gaggy. Speaking of

450
00:29:53.839 --> 00:30:03.640
gaggy cute music, Oh, this
is the journal journey. Yeah, who

451
00:30:03.680 --> 00:30:07.400
is at your segue? Journey?
Okay, I'm going to read from this

452
00:30:07.559 --> 00:30:18.920
here journal. Even though it's tray
journal, it's Shelley's journal. Journey music

453
00:30:18.960 --> 00:30:21.400
has been cute. Okay, thanks
for queuing. All right, let me

454
00:30:21.440 --> 00:30:26.759
open up this my maroon um leather
bound journal. What you got? Well,

455
00:30:26.759 --> 00:30:30.319
since I'm sitting in a closet recording, I have to use my phone

456
00:30:30.359 --> 00:30:33.359
light because I'm damn near blind these
days. Okay, Now, some of

457
00:30:33.400 --> 00:30:37.119
this seems familiar. I might have
maybe mentioned it once, but whatever,

458
00:30:37.200 --> 00:30:41.079
deal with it. It's coming twice. This is from March second, I'm

459
00:30:41.160 --> 00:30:45.400
guessing nineteen ninety six. Yes,
can the letter I got today from Brand

460
00:30:45.480 --> 00:30:52.400
He said he needs me to change
him spiritually. What can I do?

461
00:30:52.279 --> 00:30:56.759
What can I do when I feel
so weak? Oh God? I feel

462
00:30:56.799 --> 00:31:00.920
like his testimony in faith and strength
completely overshadows my own? Oh God,

463
00:31:00.960 --> 00:31:04.960
how can I lift him up?
I only pray I do not drag him

464
00:31:04.960 --> 00:31:14.079
down. Pause for Mary to laugh
a bit. God, I was a

465
00:31:14.160 --> 00:31:18.720
fucking stupid Why did he want you
to change him spiritually? What did that

466
00:31:18.799 --> 00:31:19.839
mean? I don't know. He
said it, and then I got all

467
00:31:19.880 --> 00:31:26.240
guilty about it. Duh, I'm
not doing something right. Of course I

468
00:31:26.279 --> 00:31:30.119
was never doing something right, and
I was always writing about it in my

469
00:31:30.200 --> 00:31:33.960
journal. Okay, you're ready for
this? Yeah. I long for the

470
00:31:33.039 --> 00:31:37.759
day when we can work together as
husband and wife to return to live again

471
00:31:37.799 --> 00:31:41.559
with our heavenly father. Oh God. More, I dream of the glorious

472
00:31:41.680 --> 00:31:47.359
day when our calling an election might
be made. Sure you don't call an

473
00:31:47.359 --> 00:32:00.599
election? Is that is an amazing
foom pod music? Mary, Today's fucked

474
00:32:00.680 --> 00:32:07.279
up Mormon Phrase of the day is
calling and election calling. And yeah,

475
00:32:07.119 --> 00:32:10.880
okay, you already gave away that
this is like in the afterlife. Yeah,

476
00:32:12.000 --> 00:32:15.680
I gave a lot of clues in
my pathetic journal entry. But I

477
00:32:15.720 --> 00:32:21.160
can only imagine it's like some past
saint or God or Jesus or somebody in

478
00:32:21.240 --> 00:32:30.039
the afterlife is calling you to like
calling the chosen people together. Maybe are

479
00:32:30.079 --> 00:32:34.920
you elected to a certain like no
duty. As much as I want to

480
00:32:34.920 --> 00:32:38.119
give you partial credit, it's so
much better than that. Okay, I

481
00:32:38.119 --> 00:32:43.720
don't know the answer. Okay,
buzzer, here's what it is. So

482
00:32:43.759 --> 00:32:45.119
you go through the temple the first
time, you're like when you get married,

483
00:32:45.279 --> 00:32:50.880
right, You're you're sealed. And
then for the best souls, typically

484
00:32:50.960 --> 00:32:53.440
the rich ones, the general authorities, blah blah blah, you will get

485
00:32:53.480 --> 00:32:58.759
called to come to the temple again
by like a head haunt show of the

486
00:32:58.839 --> 00:33:01.119
church. They do some ritual I
don't know what it is to make your

487
00:33:01.200 --> 00:33:09.480
calling an election sure, which means
you are then promised that you have made

488
00:33:09.480 --> 00:33:14.279
it to the upper levels of the
celestial kingdom. And there is nothing you

489
00:33:14.319 --> 00:33:16.960
can do at that point to make
that go away. So this is in

490
00:33:17.039 --> 00:33:22.079
preparation for your afterlife. Yeah,
they're telling you you made it. You're

491
00:33:22.119 --> 00:33:23.200
good. Do whatever the fuck you
want the rest of your life. You're

492
00:33:23.200 --> 00:33:27.200
good, you're in. Wait,
what's the difference between a calling and an

493
00:33:27.240 --> 00:33:30.200
election? I don't know, it's
just the calling you're calling an election is

494
00:33:30.200 --> 00:33:34.400
made sure. That's such a stupid
line. I've said it a billion times,

495
00:33:34.400 --> 00:33:37.400
but it was always this thing like, is it going to be us?

496
00:33:37.559 --> 00:33:38.880
If we live righteously, then we'll
get called to the temple and have

497
00:33:38.960 --> 00:33:44.480
our calling an election made sure?
Oh my god, meaning you did it?

498
00:33:44.720 --> 00:33:47.079
Like in this life, you did, You did all things. You're

499
00:33:47.119 --> 00:33:50.640
You're good to go. It didn't
matter what you do the rest of this

500
00:33:50.680 --> 00:33:52.599
life, because you you are in. So you could go murder somebody after

501
00:33:52.640 --> 00:33:54.759
that. Well, and I've asked
people that question, like, well,

502
00:33:54.799 --> 00:34:02.000
you won't want to. I might. Yeah. Wow, that's a good

503
00:34:02.000 --> 00:34:06.599
one. Yeah, that is a
good one. I was stumped, wasn't

504
00:34:06.640 --> 00:34:08.320
sure. I still am kind of
unclear on how it all works. But

505
00:34:08.480 --> 00:34:13.039
well, it's fake and they change
the rules as they go. Well,

506
00:34:13.079 --> 00:34:15.679
so now that you know what it
was I was striving for. Here in

507
00:34:15.719 --> 00:34:20.039
my journal, we get back to
my reading. I dream of the gloriless

508
00:34:20.079 --> 00:34:23.119
repeat, I dream of the glorious
day when our calling an election might be

509
00:34:23.199 --> 00:34:27.840
made. Sure, now it sounds
even stupid, or doesn't it now that

510
00:34:27.920 --> 00:34:30.800
you know what it is, But
the next sentence is even better. I

511
00:34:31.000 --> 00:34:38.840
shudder to think. What if it
never happens? The fuck was wrong with

512
00:34:38.880 --> 00:34:45.000
me? You are brainwashed? Oh, Shelley was brainwashed everybody? There's more?

513
00:34:45.159 --> 00:34:49.559
Well, it more. Also,
I'm just getting so much anxiety out

514
00:34:49.559 --> 00:34:53.280
of your writing. Of course,
absolutely, it explains so much about your

515
00:34:53.280 --> 00:34:58.679
anxiety. Now. I am just
used to functioning in an anxious state because

516
00:34:58.679 --> 00:35:00.519
that's all I ever did. Not
good for me. No, it's not

517
00:35:00.760 --> 00:35:05.960
new. Body keeps a score book. Yeah, yeah, but I believe

518
00:35:06.000 --> 00:35:08.400
that's true. Yeah. We get
so amped up on different things and stressed

519
00:35:08.400 --> 00:35:13.639
out. And a church probably took
ten years off my life. Assholes probably,

520
00:35:13.760 --> 00:35:16.800
and lots of tithing. Okay,
I want to do another paragraph here

521
00:35:16.960 --> 00:35:21.920
because it was all done on the
same day. Why do I always feel

522
00:35:21.960 --> 00:35:25.440
like I'm struggling. I just don't
feel like I'm where it should be at

523
00:35:25.440 --> 00:35:31.280
this point in life. I truly
want a relationship with heavenly Father. Perhaps

524
00:35:31.320 --> 00:35:37.079
sin is the great barrier that keeps
me from reaching him. What can I

525
00:35:37.159 --> 00:35:42.559
do? I must always repent.
I should try making new covenants with the

526
00:35:42.599 --> 00:35:46.840
Lord every morning, like starting brand
new with each day, setting goals from

527
00:35:46.840 --> 00:35:52.119
sun up to sundown, keeping this
spirit with me all day long to help

528
00:35:52.159 --> 00:35:58.039
me accomplish these goals, Praying throughout
the day to my father to tell him

529
00:35:58.639 --> 00:36:02.079
next patient, tell him how I'm
doing with my goals, and to ask

530
00:36:02.119 --> 00:36:07.920
for his help and support, to
give thanks. Tomorrow morning, I will

531
00:36:07.960 --> 00:36:09.679
start this new plan. I need
a new beginning. I need to be

532
00:36:09.719 --> 00:36:15.599
revitalized. I need to regain my
views. Did you have views? I

533
00:36:15.639 --> 00:36:19.280
don't fucking know what a hand they
were? Your dad's views? Wow?

534
00:36:19.280 --> 00:36:22.199
I think I'll stop there. I
have another one right after it, but

535
00:36:22.239 --> 00:36:24.119
I'm gonna hold off. Okay,
I'll make a note. You're gonna make

536
00:36:24.119 --> 00:36:29.440
a note, all right? Wow? Oh, Shelly, I know,

537
00:36:30.320 --> 00:36:35.079
Oh my goodness, So glad you
are not that person anymore. You are

538
00:36:35.119 --> 00:36:38.920
a completely different person, Thank god. I was just Yeah, and you

539
00:36:38.960 --> 00:36:43.639
can look back on it and laugh. What's that line in that Indigo Girls

540
00:36:43.679 --> 00:36:45.840
song? Every five years or so, I look back on my life and

541
00:36:45.880 --> 00:36:50.519
have a good laugh. Totally,
you know, we're not laughing at you

542
00:36:50.639 --> 00:36:52.119
or laughing with you, laugh at
me. I was a fucking dork.

543
00:36:54.880 --> 00:36:59.039
I'm laughing at me. Shit,
Oh my god. I mean part of

544
00:36:59.039 --> 00:37:01.000
it is what you were in your
ties, right, sure, and you

545
00:37:01.039 --> 00:37:04.760
know that's a time when we're all
kind of just figuring out who we are

546
00:37:04.800 --> 00:37:07.719
too, and that's part of it. But I was I was in my

547
00:37:07.719 --> 00:37:10.039
twenties in a brainwashed state. Yeah, in a cult. And that makes

548
00:37:10.039 --> 00:37:13.920
you say some weird ass ship that
most twenty year rolds probably wouldn't say.

549
00:37:14.159 --> 00:37:20.760
Probably soon. I love that journal
entry. I can't remember when that was,

550
00:37:20.840 --> 00:37:24.079
but that's funny. Oh my goodness. Okay, well that's your riveting

551
00:37:24.239 --> 00:37:29.840
journal journey. Thank you. So
glad you are not that person anymore.

552
00:37:29.880 --> 00:37:31.960
Oh god. I mean we couldn't
be friends. No, I wouldn't be

553
00:37:35.599 --> 00:37:37.519
Yeah, you'd be like, she's
looking at my boobs? True, that

554
00:37:37.519 --> 00:37:45.719
would be true. Well there you
go, yeah, there you do go.

555
00:37:45.760 --> 00:37:51.880
Okay, we I think have time
for a letter. Why don't we

556
00:37:51.920 --> 00:37:55.480
take one last quick break and then
I'll read the letter and then we'll do

557
00:37:55.599 --> 00:38:00.639
patrons do it all right? Be
right back, yeah, listen up.

558
00:38:00.679 --> 00:38:06.199
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559
00:38:06.199 --> 00:38:09.519
refer to their mix as modest,
because I personally think they have a lot

560
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561
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562
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563
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564
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566
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569
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570
00:39:07.719 --> 00:39:12.199
a special treat this letter. I
can't believe we haven't read this before.

571
00:39:12.519 --> 00:39:15.480
Maybe we did, Yeah, I
don't know. You'll tell you tell me

572
00:39:15.599 --> 00:39:20.320
once we start reading it. This
is a special treat because it's from Dan

573
00:39:20.840 --> 00:39:24.360
at Extension Audios. Sister Shit no, we haven't read that. I don't

574
00:39:24.360 --> 00:39:28.599
think we have. And this came
in like two years ago. Sorry,

575
00:39:28.679 --> 00:39:31.639
Dan's sister from Extension Audio, Lisa. Sorry Lisa, she's not from Extension

576
00:39:31.679 --> 00:39:38.400
Audio. Sorry Dan from Extension Audio's
sister, Lisa. Jesus. All right,

577
00:39:39.280 --> 00:39:44.360
here we go, dear Mary and
Shelley. I started listening to your

578
00:39:44.400 --> 00:39:47.480
podcast earlier this year, that would
be two years ago, and have enjoyed

579
00:39:47.519 --> 00:39:52.480
every episode since. Your show has
been amazingly helpful to me as I have

580
00:39:52.519 --> 00:39:58.519
been transitioning out of Mormonism. I
think you guys are awesome. Thanks Lisa,

581
00:39:58.599 --> 00:40:00.559
thank you. I'm excited to write
in and say hello to you both

582
00:40:00.599 --> 00:40:05.760
because my connection to your show happens
to be very close to home. My

583
00:40:05.840 --> 00:40:09.280
older brother and very best friend is
Daniel. Leave it in, Daniel,

584
00:40:09.400 --> 00:40:15.280
Daniel, Daniel, my brother.
Leave it in, Daniel, she says,

585
00:40:15.320 --> 00:40:20.559
although he is better known here as
Dan at Extension Audio. Or leave

586
00:40:20.599 --> 00:40:22.840
it in Dan. I put that. She didn't write that part. I

587
00:40:22.960 --> 00:40:25.559
put that in. He told me
about a new show he was mastering,

588
00:40:25.639 --> 00:40:30.239
called Latterday Lesbian. Although mastering is
a terrible word. I don't like that

589
00:40:30.280 --> 00:40:35.000
word. I know it's bad.
I mean technically that is how production has

590
00:40:35.000 --> 00:40:37.679
been referred to for years and years
and years. I think we should change

591
00:40:37.679 --> 00:40:42.440
it. Mixing and finalizing. We
could say that okay, okay, is

592
00:40:42.480 --> 00:40:45.679
it because it sounds too much like
a master bait? No, it sounds

593
00:40:45.679 --> 00:40:49.079
like master. Master is a terrible
word. Oh, like the noun I

594
00:40:49.159 --> 00:40:52.360
am your master, right, Not
in a good way. It's just a

595
00:40:52.400 --> 00:40:55.119
bad word. Yeah, it's an
eliminate master. Gotcha from our vocabulary.

596
00:40:55.400 --> 00:40:58.920
Anyway. The show was Latter Day
Lesbian. Hey, that's our show,

597
00:40:59.760 --> 00:41:04.360
and after several conversations with him,
where he expressed how cool these ladies were,

598
00:41:04.400 --> 00:41:07.880
I guess that's us. I think
so shit, and how much he

599
00:41:07.000 --> 00:41:12.679
thought it would resonate with me,
I finally tuned in. Oh, thanks

600
00:41:12.840 --> 00:41:20.320
Dan for yeah for recommending us.
My faith crisis hit full speed last summer

601
00:41:20.360 --> 00:41:23.039
in twenty eighteen, while I was
living at home with my parents. That'll

602
00:41:23.079 --> 00:41:28.320
do it, yep, who are
currently very active Mormons. I had graduated

603
00:41:28.400 --> 00:41:34.760
from Brigham Young University, Idaho not
long previously and was feeling profoundly stuck.

604
00:41:35.119 --> 00:41:37.880
Yeah BYU Idaho. By the way, is bu on fucking crack? Is

605
00:41:37.920 --> 00:41:42.079
it? Yes? Yikes? As
if provo is not bad enough. No,

606
00:41:42.320 --> 00:41:45.920
right, Well, Idaho is like
take provo BYU, and then add

607
00:41:45.960 --> 00:41:50.840
do not show any of your skin
anywhere ever. Oh wow, they're really

608
00:41:51.000 --> 00:41:54.000
strict. Good lord, Okay,
anyway, she was feeling profoundly stuck.

609
00:41:54.760 --> 00:41:59.800
I used all of the pressure building
up from that situation to spring me across

610
00:41:59.840 --> 00:42:05.679
the Pacific to start work as an
English teacher in China. It was as

611
00:42:05.679 --> 00:42:08.079
far away as I could possibly get
from my family and the Mormon Church.

612
00:42:08.360 --> 00:42:13.199
I ran away to a land where
it virtually does not exist. Wow.

613
00:42:13.400 --> 00:42:15.840
Yeah, good for her. It
was an amazing year, and I really

614
00:42:15.880 --> 00:42:21.719
took advantage of the space I needed
to process my emotions and do a lot

615
00:42:21.800 --> 00:42:25.400
of reading. The paradigm shift that
comes from leaving a high demand religion is

616
00:42:25.440 --> 00:42:30.639
a real mind fuck. Yeah.
Unsurprisingly, I removed my name from the

617
00:42:30.719 --> 00:42:36.440
church records shortly before returning home for
the summer. A girl. Yeah.

618
00:42:36.440 --> 00:42:38.840
Thankfully. Through it all, I
have had the constant support of my amazing

619
00:42:38.920 --> 00:42:45.280
brother Nah to help me cope through
this insane transition. He and I have

620
00:42:45.360 --> 00:42:50.559
been talking incessantly about the Church,
religion, God, and life for the

621
00:42:50.639 --> 00:42:53.480
last two years, and we are
no closer to figuring it out. But

622
00:42:53.519 --> 00:42:58.079
we are closer to each other than
ever before. That's what counts, right

623
00:42:58.159 --> 00:43:00.280
for real. Despite the fact that
I reach turned to China to teach for

624
00:43:00.320 --> 00:43:05.880
another year, being the savvy technology
dude that he is, he approached me

625
00:43:05.920 --> 00:43:08.960
with the idea to start our own
podcast as a tool for others who might

626
00:43:09.039 --> 00:43:15.440
benefit from the conversations that we have
as X Mormon Siblings. Siblings and Zion

627
00:43:15.719 --> 00:43:20.199
is now available in all the places. Did you say Zion now? I

628
00:43:20.239 --> 00:43:24.119
said Zion. It kind of had
a Zion feel to it. Siblings in

629
00:43:24.280 --> 00:43:29.599
Zion, Okay, that's how Mormon
Zion Mormons stole it. Okay is now

630
00:43:29.639 --> 00:43:31.920
available in all the podcast places.
If any of your listeners are interested in

631
00:43:31.960 --> 00:43:36.440
tuning in there as well, you
know, I'll have to reach out to

632
00:43:36.519 --> 00:43:39.599
Dan to see if they're currently in
production on that show, because I don't

633
00:43:39.760 --> 00:43:43.920
honestly know, but you can definitely
listen to past episodes if not, yeh,

634
00:43:44.000 --> 00:43:47.599
Siblings and Zion, I said it, you kind of say Zion.

635
00:43:47.719 --> 00:43:52.639
You do a little bit of a
on at the end anyway, Just Zion

636
00:43:52.960 --> 00:44:00.360
Zion Zion. Yes, that is
better. Siblings and Zion. Find it

637
00:44:00.559 --> 00:44:06.360
on your favorite podcast app. Okay, let me wrap this up. Please

638
00:44:06.400 --> 00:44:09.079
do. Lisa says, I'm so
glad that you chose Daniel, leave it

639
00:44:09.079 --> 00:44:13.719
in, Daniel in Daniel to work
on your podcast, and that it led

640
00:44:13.760 --> 00:44:17.639
to me also getting to enjoy your
conversations, insights, tangents, and foom

641
00:44:17.679 --> 00:44:22.079
pods. Yeah, thanks for helping
me steer clear of cults. Love Lisa,

642
00:44:22.320 --> 00:44:27.960
Oh, Lisa, thank you for
I know that's awesome. Two years

643
00:44:27.960 --> 00:44:31.280
ago I got around reading it.
That's a good letter. That has a

644
00:44:31.320 --> 00:44:36.320
good letter, I know. And
you know what, love me some Dan

645
00:44:36.400 --> 00:44:39.920
from Daniel from Extension Audio. We'll
just thank them now. There you go.

646
00:44:40.280 --> 00:44:44.519
There's your thanks. Dan. If
you don't get thanked at the end

647
00:44:44.559 --> 00:44:46.400
today, thanks for leaving it in, Dan, it's near the end.

648
00:44:47.159 --> 00:44:51.760
We love you, appreciate all you
do for us. Okay, did you

649
00:44:51.840 --> 00:44:54.599
want to uh get started on some
patrons write them down, but let me

650
00:44:54.639 --> 00:44:59.840
dottle check. All right, how
are we doing their new names today?

651
00:45:00.000 --> 00:45:02.679
I said words that you'd hear in
conference. Okay, so I came up

652
00:45:02.719 --> 00:45:07.480
with this idea. Wait we're recording
right now. Oh okay, carry on.

653
00:45:07.599 --> 00:45:12.199
Sorry, we're doing a conversation starter. Okay, like it? How

654
00:45:12.199 --> 00:45:16.199
are we doing their new names today. New names today will be words you

655
00:45:16.199 --> 00:45:20.599
will hear in general conference. Okay, okay, who's the first one?

656
00:45:21.079 --> 00:45:27.079
Number one is Lisa Marie P.
Presley. I guess you don't hear that

657
00:45:27.119 --> 00:45:30.320
at a general Nope, nope.
They would never refer to Elvis in a

658
00:45:30.400 --> 00:45:35.599
conference unless they were doing baptisms for
the dead. Right. The word I'm

659
00:45:35.639 --> 00:45:39.440
thinking of is persecute. Okay,
I was thinking prosperity. Okay, is

660
00:45:39.480 --> 00:45:43.159
I'm gonna go with mine. I
have an idea there, Okay, But

661
00:45:43.239 --> 00:45:45.000
persecute not in the way that we
think of it, but in the way

662
00:45:45.039 --> 00:45:51.320
the church thinks of it, as
in the Church believes they are being persecuted

663
00:45:52.519 --> 00:45:58.400
by non Mormons. Oh okay,
like woe is us for them, poor

664
00:45:58.880 --> 00:46:05.679
poor us. People want to call
us Mormons and we're not where where they're

665
00:46:05.679 --> 00:46:12.719
just right, yes, just stupid
old yarn. Yeah, so Lisa Marie

666
00:46:12.800 --> 00:46:16.599
percute. Dear. Sorry, it
is not my fault, but this is

667
00:46:16.639 --> 00:46:22.199
the you know, the word that
I can't think of right now? What

668
00:46:22.440 --> 00:46:25.840
the category of names were, you
know? I see? Okay? Next

669
00:46:25.920 --> 00:46:28.800
up, by the way, I
thank you, Lisa Marie. Next up,

670
00:46:28.840 --> 00:46:31.480
Amy, no last name? Oh? Can I do it? Yeah,

671
00:46:31.559 --> 00:46:39.159
Zion Zion, Amy Zion, than
amy Zion. Thanks for your support,

672
00:46:39.639 --> 00:46:45.199
good Lord. Next up, Harriet
m M. How about missionary.

673
00:46:45.239 --> 00:46:50.719
I'm sure that missionaries are mentioned in
conference sometimes, God always. As a

674
00:46:50.719 --> 00:46:54.920
matter of fact, the conference in
April, m reinforced to all the boys

675
00:46:55.039 --> 00:47:00.599
that if you are worthy, you
need to go. I want a mission

676
00:47:00.719 --> 00:47:04.280
period end of story, which then
of course calls out the boys who just

677
00:47:04.360 --> 00:47:07.400
kind of decided they didn't want to
go, and so now they are labeled

678
00:47:07.559 --> 00:47:13.639
as sinners. Well they have to
guilt people into going on a mission,

679
00:47:13.920 --> 00:47:16.360
of course, because they really believe
that's the way to get new converts.

680
00:47:16.519 --> 00:47:22.000
Absolutely, new converts equals more tithing. Uh, it's a money call.

681
00:47:22.159 --> 00:47:25.800
Goes down to the money. It
all does boils down to money every single

682
00:47:25.840 --> 00:47:30.280
time. They also reminded the girls
you don't have to go, which again

683
00:47:30.360 --> 00:47:37.679
it's like yeah, yeah, yeah. And then they also encouraged the elderly

684
00:47:37.719 --> 00:47:42.960
people to go serve their missions,
which, by the way, my parents

685
00:47:42.960 --> 00:47:46.079
served two missions. Damn near killed
my mom, damn near. We've talked

686
00:47:46.079 --> 00:47:50.840
about the before, ye yeah,
And to fucking be like, I know,

687
00:47:50.880 --> 00:47:52.320
you have grandkids and all. So
this was a thing. This was

688
00:47:52.360 --> 00:47:55.719
a thing that my dad actually told
me because all of us kids, of

689
00:47:55.719 --> 00:47:59.159
course back then we were brainwashed.
We're like, oh, parents are so

690
00:47:59.280 --> 00:48:02.559
holy blow going, I messied.
It was like, your grandkids will get

691
00:48:02.559 --> 00:48:06.559
there, We'll be there when you
get back. Well, it's okay.

692
00:48:06.559 --> 00:48:09.320
Well didn't they not attend your wedding
or something? No, didn't attend my

693
00:48:09.360 --> 00:48:13.519
wedding, I know, um,
which I'll give shit, but didn't attend

694
00:48:13.840 --> 00:48:19.159
the blessing of my baby, my
last baby, And it mattered to me.

695
00:48:19.239 --> 00:48:22.079
Back then. They were only like
an hour and a half flight away,

696
00:48:22.519 --> 00:48:25.719
right, and they wouldn't couldn't go. My mom wanted to and my

697
00:48:25.760 --> 00:48:28.519
dad was like, no, hun, you can't. You know, you

698
00:48:28.519 --> 00:48:30.880
can't leave your mission, leave your
mission. And it's all bullshit. Makes

699
00:48:30.880 --> 00:48:35.360
me angry. My mom suffered significantly. Um so yeah, sorry, that's

700
00:48:35.360 --> 00:48:39.159
your new last name, Harriet missionary. It can be Harriet missionary style.

701
00:48:39.239 --> 00:48:42.920
If that, oh it's better for
Harry, is it better? Well,

702
00:48:42.960 --> 00:48:45.639
I don't know, it's up to
her. That's funny. You can choose

703
00:48:46.800 --> 00:48:52.639
next. Now this is spelled m
a c I A h m. What

704
00:48:52.159 --> 00:49:00.679
m A c I a h mcaiah
maybe okay, but macaia didn't offer up

705
00:49:00.760 --> 00:49:05.519
last name, so um oh freak
of shoes. Well I picked the last

706
00:49:05.519 --> 00:49:07.440
one, So why don't you pick
a common where it's a ridiculous one.

707
00:49:07.519 --> 00:49:13.800
Conferences so many, there's so many. I'm just gonna go with, um

708
00:49:14.079 --> 00:49:22.639
makaia, geth seminee, geth semonee, get get the seminee because there's always

709
00:49:22.639 --> 00:49:28.039
a talk in general conference about Jesus, like near dying, and get semine

710
00:49:28.039 --> 00:49:31.280
for our sins because we're horrible.
They loved it so much, but we

711
00:49:31.320 --> 00:49:37.559
need to show that appreciation by basically
being a Mormon. So right, yes,

712
00:49:37.639 --> 00:49:43.960
sorry, your new last name is
guests semine last Lacy, m m

713
00:49:44.639 --> 00:49:49.199
m um. Can I do this
one? Sure? Master bait, masterbait?

714
00:49:49.239 --> 00:49:52.519
Did they say that? And common
oaks? They never actually say the

715
00:49:52.800 --> 00:49:55.559
Jesus, but I wanted to say
the word. But they talk about sexual

716
00:49:55.760 --> 00:50:00.639
sin and we know way up there, especially when they're when they when they

717
00:50:00.639 --> 00:50:02.000
speak in the priesthood session, which
is like the men and the boys,

718
00:50:02.119 --> 00:50:06.679
mm, they hit that ship home. Okay, they don't say the word

719
00:50:06.760 --> 00:50:10.360
master bait, but they definitely And
who's this patron again, Lacy master bait?

720
00:50:10.719 --> 00:50:16.199
Sorry, Lacy, not sorry,
that's the best one. Thanks for

721
00:50:16.280 --> 00:50:23.559
sport. Lacy Master, Basha Master, Lacy Lacy, Lacy Master Bakay,

722
00:50:23.880 --> 00:50:29.440
Okay, sorry, Lacy Lacy,
you could just PM me later and I'll

723
00:50:29.440 --> 00:50:32.000
apologize for shot. I can give
her a new name of shem. There

724
00:50:32.000 --> 00:50:36.920
you go? Or is it a
DM Personal Message? Direct Message? What

725
00:50:36.960 --> 00:50:40.000
do you say? They're all different
and I'm always afraid I use DM now.

726
00:50:40.239 --> 00:50:43.800
Isn't it the same thing? Though? It is? But okay,

727
00:50:43.920 --> 00:50:46.519
okay, whatever, slide into your
DMS. Yeah, there you go.

728
00:50:47.599 --> 00:50:51.760
I think we're wrapped on this episode. Everybody, there you go. In

729
00:50:51.800 --> 00:50:54.119
the name of Jesus Christ Amen yep. Already thanked Dan, So don't want

730
00:50:54.119 --> 00:51:00.960
to do that twice. Don't get
greedy Dan. Oh Dan shit. Maybe

731
00:51:00.960 --> 00:51:02.840
we should thank Dan's sister for writing
in Thank you, Lisa, Thank you

732
00:51:04.039 --> 00:51:07.360
appreciated that. Sorry it took us
so long to get to your letter.

733
00:51:07.079 --> 00:51:09.679
If you would like to send us
a letter, we might get to it

734
00:51:09.719 --> 00:51:14.679
in the next couple of years.
We'll see what happens. That email address

735
00:51:14.960 --> 00:51:21.320
is Latter Day Lesbian dot org slash
contact make a note, make it and

736
00:51:22.079 --> 00:51:25.440
stare clear of those cults because they're
no joke, no joke at all talk

737
00:51:25.440 --> 00:51:28.920
to your by later Bye,

