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coolst Hey everyone, and welcome to side Quest, the every other week Authors
and Dragons program in which we do something different. Sometimes we talk to somebody
who's somebody really cool, Sometimes we complain amongst ourselves, and sometimes we laugh
at the death of cartoon characters. I am not okay, can you imagine
which one we're gonna do today? I don't know what you talking about.
He's so mean, like Rachel. Why would someone do that to you?
I mean, it makes no sense whatsoever to glorify the death of loves character.
Well, let's I don't Why would I do this? I mean,
I'm wearing the shirt. How that happened? You can say, remember it?
Okay on my tip. It's how I go to sleep. It's I
masturbate, sleep, repeat. It is the best thing that's ever happened to
my nerd life to see that cage. Hey, everybody they're talking about Actually,
we will get you joining me today. We are having way too much
fun with us already. Are MK Gibson an R? E. Car sick?
All right? Now, let's get back to Gambits dead ass? Hey?
Can we at least lead up to gambits A technically? Technically we weren't
like you to just talk about Gambits dead ass. We're going to talk about
X Men ninety seven today, Yes, which is probably one of the best
things to come out of marvel In. Uh, you know, in a
while, it's been a few leaps and hops of quality. You know,
are you Yeah, the best thing that's come out on Disney Plus, like
for sure. Right, some of the Star Wars projects are hit and miss,
depending on your love of Star Wars. A lot of the Marvel Plus
you have and or we do have and I didn't care for and or oh
I didn't about so many things I didn't here's it. I don't think it's
bad. I just did not find it good Star Wars. I found it
to be a very generic what's the word I'm looking for? Blade Runner that
was set in Star Wars universe. It just didn't It didn't resonate with me.
But we can have the discussion. That's not what we're here for.
We are here for dos x Men. And also it's as good as DC
animation is. There's only so many there's only so many Batman and Supermanvie,
he's not gonna watch Man Batman. I was gonna say Batman, But Batman
and Superman movies I can watch, like JESU Christ, guys, you have
other characters or other fucking characters. I mean, the Long Halloween was was
something, but it's like, could we have a not Batman? It's it's
like kids like, they've got some really good ones. I love the Red
Hood. It's one of my favorite DC animated ones. You know, it's
you know, it's sad. James James Gunn kind of confirmed with He was
like, I love what they did with X Men ninety seven. You know
how they continued the story, how they continued the story as similar animations,
like you know, got a lot of the voice hectors. And he's like,
by the way, we're not going to do that with Justice League Unlimited,
and was like, god damn, why not. I mean, he
did make a good point. Someone already did it, and unless he has
something new to do, James Gunn is not the most He's not one to
retread on something that was good. Yeah, but it's owned by Warner and
Warner Brothers has ever did has never seen like, you know, a pile
of money. They didn't want to make, you know, crease up with
their hands like Scrooge mcduckie in style. So while we're talking about the X
Men ninety seven, I did watch it back in the original day. I
think I was so seven ninety seven. I was bloody hell uh to do
the math? Uh fuck? What was I seventy five? Eight were younger
than me. Motherfucker shut up by like by like a couple of years tops.
I mean, that's a thing. In ninety seven I was twenty.
Yeah, but the show didn't happen in ninety seven. It happened then like
ninety six. Yeah, ninety seven is actually skipping ahead a little bit.
So in ninety two I was seventeen, so yeah, yeah, yeah,
but yeah, but like you know, this was this was the time when
like you know, when Batman the animni series was out there, and I
think, like no, and I think also you had like what was it
like Batman behind like DC was in their heyday, and like Marvel Final Marvel
was like you know, getting her marble was broke. Let's be real.
Yeah, they had they sold they sold the X Men. They to Fox,
they sold uh Soudi accents. They didn't sell the X Men to to
Fox until after. It was this series that actually gave them the capital to
sell the X Men because they were that big, right, and they were
the reason they made the The Avengers movies is because all their big properties were
owned by other studios, Like how far back to everybody's X Men? Like
as I for me, it was like nineteen eighty three when I got a
cop of a reprint of Giant Size X Men one. That was my first
X Men comic when I was eight years old, So that was and then
I started collecting everything I could from old issues, old classic reprints going forward
for the next twenty plus years. I remember when Lake X Men were essentially
the joke of the Marvel universe, like every cartoon they showed up, or
every comic book they showed him that they got their ass kicked, all that
stuff. But then Wolverine got popular and suddenly X Men were everywhere. The
Chris Claremont run when it was Clairemont, and I've heard of that. John
Byrne was the artist who did the one We Goes to Japan and he fights
Shingen like that four issue Eric became one of the best trade paperbacks and like
really help repel him into the future, at least in my opinion, as
one of the ones I one of my seminole classics. But the thing was,
he was always still a support character in the main X Men comics.
He did have storylines, but he had his own solo book. If you
were asking my my introduction at the X Men came as almost every female comic
book fan of the eighties and nineties was when somebody's boyfriend gave them the copy
of the Dark Phoenix saga to say, this is really cool, this is
like comic books you would like, because let's put it this way, in
the eighties and nineties, there wasn't a lot, you know, to really
look up to in uh in comic book reading as a girl. And then
I read it and I'm like, wow, there is more than one female
character in a comment and with her yeah, some of the most iconic characters
come from X Men, and our female agreed, yeah, And it was
it was interesting and there were character developments, and I was just hooked.
So after I read Dark Phoenix, I went and hunted. I hunted a
lot of the trade paperbacks because I was catching up. So of course Days
of Future passed, and then I started reading comics per se, and I
got all the X Men, so I started with one like everyone, and
you can't just read one because they also in the nineties, especially in the
early nineties when I was really picking it up, it was all about crossovers,
right, and one that I also loved the TV show because I was
one of the people that like got the glasses from Pizza hut Ye and were
like voting on the cups so that they on the Fox Show. And when
it was number one, even though it hadn't come out yet officially, it
was like the coolest thing, and I became completely hooked until Age of Apocalypse
and then I was completely completely hooked. That was my favorite. I was
going to say I was always so so on the X Men comic because I
was more of a fantastic for a Spider Man guy. I collected literally everything
that I had to do. With Age of Apocalypse. It was such like
it was a full takeover Marvel. Yes, yes, it was just wonderfully
done. And I love that, like some of like you know, some
of the characters, some of the good characters and some of the scummy characters
manages to survive because well Marvel likes money dark. Yeah, yeah, dark
Dark. It's just great because he is just such a fucking asshole and it's
great. Oh but you know what the fun thing is there is a trivia
fact that ties back to the show we're talking about. The Age of Apocalypse
actually came from a two episodes at the original X Men show called One Man's
Worth, which was directly claim was the inspission. They even worked Morphine,
who was the character that was from the show, and that's where he got
sort of his big see it, it's from there where I got we got
Blink, and I loved Blink from age and I think my personal favorite X
Men comic for many years. I mean I grew up with this and don't
get me wrong, but I loved Exiles. It was that it was the
displaced X Men who went around time kind of like it was just Sliders meets
Voyagers meets Quantum Leap, but with X Men characters, like I really liked
X Man, like you know, because I never actually liked I never actually
liked Cable was much more interesting than Cable. You people he was. I
think it sads all the time you jumped in because if you were a big
X Force fan and you followed Cable and kind of Deadpool and those people from
there and his tiny hands and tiny lack of feet. But it was one
of those like, yeah, I love the concept of those characters. But
over time, once we learned about like you know, Cable, Nathan Summers,
Askani's son and that his there were two old was his sister, right,
but there were two old mentors that helped raise him, known as Slim
and Red. That yeah, and that and as we now realize right times,
that was a great one, you know something that that was that I
liked. I liked that mini series. I hated the art. I forget
who did the art. I did not like the art of it. Was
that kind of put me out of it? Was that the one that was
kind of they were very not bulbous, but kind of puffy. Is that
the one? I think? I'm sure? But it was very dark Colores
basically, And of course it was like like Scott Summers and Jean Gray got
married and as their moon they get shunt it off into a like an apocalyptic
wasteland and it's just like that's X men for you don't want me on their
honeymoon. Gamut and Rodes honeymoon they ended up in space and Deadpool crashed it.
Yeah, I just wanted one one like comment from Lake Psycolops. It'd
be like, yeah, we just got married and I can't even fuck you
with my own dad. Yeah, I'm sure he would probably think more of
doing Madeline. I mean, god, I get it. I get it
like someone someone. I forget who it was. I might have been even
Rick, I don't know. I was talking shit or maybe with Steve talking
shit about Madline and the X Men ninety seven, like wait a minute,
she's just had a child as she's going through her sexy face, who are
you to shame her? And god damn it, I'm all on board for
Madeline prior and I get by Scott. Listen, the first thing Jeanie would
came back was like make out with the wolverine Madeline. She's down, she's
down, she's in a role play and leather and bondage. Yeah. I
want to see him more realistic portrayal of Jean Gray, where like you know,
every time they mentioned like Madeline, she's like, oh, oh you're
a whore. Yeah, here's the thing, and no offense to see the
Gene Gray fanatics out there. I over all the year and after the ninety
two different versions of Phoenix, I've come to hate Jean Gray so so much.
I think the issue is is that every single writer when they take over,
seems determined that they have to redo the dark Phoenix in some way.
It's not it's not the character's fault that she keeps getting reached out, and
she has some of the most problematic and worst storylines on her. They just
loved Fridging Green Jean Gray. Yeah, because they everyone knows at this point
her death is like as permanent as a Winchesters and supernatural. It's just not
going to stick. Yes, it's the whole dark Phoenix thing where it's like
you get the person typically a white lady, filled with power and is ready
to explode. And we see that in Syria and The Witcher, we see
that in The Girl in Like That Wink show. We see it over and
over and over and over. But when does Storm get to explode with power?
When does Aventure? Now? Whoa you know, it's like she's comed
I know comic levels comic Britain. Storm is one of my favorite characters.
Every time she's portrayed in animation. She is the most boring character. She's
enigmatic. It's banking on your knowledge of Storm. She does it. She
has, Yes, she's claustrophobic. Whoop you woo. Like it's like they
don't they don't put any time into her the way put into like a least
at least they put some time into her like Emma Frost is one of the
best characters in comic books, and literally she usually gets like five seconds of
screen time. Apparently Bo Demayo didn't like that character in particular. I've never
been a fan. I do like Emma Frost because she is a I like
her when she's written well, I should say she's either in one note horrible,
but she's had some amazing runs and I kind of liked her with Cyclops
better than Gan Gray. She was at overall Where's scale one of ten?
Where's her Where's her Hype? Ten? Okay, I'd give it. You
know something, I thought that you believe episode with the with ar with Mojo,
so I'm going to give it a nine just because of that. The
only thing I will give it is that the Jubilee episode one, it brought
back the original voice actress, which I was very happy with and kind of
marriage to do. But the thing about the Jubilee episode, the Jubilee half
of the episode was they didn't keep it very long, but they showed the
dangers of nostalgia and wanting things to stay the same, and I actually thought
story wise, it was very important to have that moment before episode five,
which we will get to episode five. If they had not, if they
had not truncated down to a whopping like eleven and a half minutes of story,
and they could have gotten more of that across, I think I would
have liked it better. But the fact is we got a very boom boom
boom, boom boom version of that story. The whole the whole series was
boom boom boom. They were very well. The episode five was the one
that was It was as much as it was boom boom, it was the
one that I think had the best pacing. Oh but we should probably go
and like take the episodes like sort of I'm around with Rick. I'm like
going an eight point five out of factors. When it hit, it hit,
and there was a couple episodes that's slide. But I'm not taking away
from the power of the Majesty and the unity that the show had. Overall,
it did a fantastic job. It picked up on nostalgia. It did
bang a lot on somebody having seen or being aware of the X Men of
the past, But I'm okay with that. The only thing I will give
you the counterpoint is, so this year we had two shows in the car
house so British Accident, and I watched two shows that one of us was
excited and knew a ton about four and the other one was just a novice.
Fallout was his show and XPN ninety seven was my show. Okay,
both of those shows were I think well enough because I had a legit,
non comic book reading husband and he could follow every single episode without problem.
We don't have that reference. And while it was a lot, and he
every once in a while will be like, am I missing? Like is
that a wreck? Like would I know more if I understood it? But
he never got lost. He could follow the entire thing as a He didn't
have x but he was in the UK right for the first episode. My
biggest joy was like it starts, coming on, it starts, and I'm
thinking to myself, because they always do this little cartoon remix is they remake
cartoons and they ship up the music. They take what was epic music and
they shipped it up with something just generic that they took off the shelf.
And I'm like sitting there, going come on, come on, They're not
gonna have the theme song. They're not gonna no, no, no,
they had. There was a slight tweaked to it. It's not exactly the
same bescause, but it was fundamental because the whole legal eese from the original
one. It was bar from another song blah blah blah. So like it
was a remix. It's a loving remix of the original that we know as
long as it has the that's all I care. You know exactly what it
was. Yeah, gotta avoid those Hungarian lawyers. I am not kidding.
That was literally the problems Hungarian lawyers. But no, yeah, you're right,
and that not only did they do the same theme song, is every
single episode. You couldn't skip the intro because they did different scenes in each
one and it was like a big Easter egg hunt and it was cool.
And you even had to watch the previously on because the previously on were so
well curated and whoever spoke the previous one would give you the hint as whose
episode it was. See, that's why didn't I skip those, because they
always do that Supernatural. Hey do you remember that episode thirteen weeks back?
We're about to do it again, And like, man, I wanted to
be a surprised. Now you just told me what the surprise is gonna be
but they didn't tell you what they were very I'm talking about the Supernatural episode.
So I previously on it. I don't. I don't watch any previously
on because I'm smart enough to remember my episodes, and I didn't realize some
people don't. I just I'm going in. I'm just going in. And
it gave it a couple of years. Yeah, no, really, it
really though. They did it very well in this one. It was one
of the highlights was the packaging of the show, like it started with a
previously on that made sense, and they actually remastered the previously on if it
was showing something from the O. Speaking of package psyclaps this year, good
job. I was just gonna say, before we get into the meat,
a bit only minor annoyance at the end, the end things where they show
like you know, the like you know, the X Men bios and stuff.
They cut it short to go to Lick, they cut it short to
go to Black Stream. No, just give us the whole I know,
I know, it's just because there's so many more people involved. I know,
but I'm greedy. I mean, these are the minor netpicks. But
yeah, the first episode let's talk about it. I mean it, which
which will go in as the show goes. I've forgotten how much of a
telenovela, Spanish soap opera x Men really was. It's to complete with like
I will never leave my child. I can't let you do this back turn
or the backflip over how could you do this to me? Gene like of
X Men is backflips, civil rights and soap opera. Those are the three
pillars of I've forgotten, dude. There's an evil clone song comes out of
a coma. There's making out that she makes out with Wolverine that gets mad
at him for having a psychic affair, like the audacity, Like I'm like,
this is just I'd forgotten how soapy this thing really was. And then
there's Charles, and then there's Charles and like you know, and and make
Mark like a dog you called that one, dude? Was it just me?
Or was like when I was watching the finale, we'll get to it,
we'll get to it, and we'll start here the thing. But when
Charles kept leaning in and leaning in like dude, just fucking fuck already,
like you're waiting. We will get to the amazing subtext. Don't worry,
but I absolutely I think that's why the ten out of ten was because to
me, it was unapologetic about those three pillars of X Men. I am
not what I do. Actually like the Brian Singer films, at least two
of them, but they were less of what they were, more kind of
matrix y serious action movies. And X Men is so x Men is backflips
and crazy fights and tag like a lot of it also didn't have the tag
team fights. Oh that like the tag team fights and powers and like Cannibal
Specials, which was was was the amazing thing in the comics and even the
original series just because in case you haven't seen it, it was done on
a very low budget and Saban Entertainment before they had Power Rangers money did it.
So it was they did the best they could. Like we will get
to it later, but there's a certain character that never could turn. He
always had to be seen front on and only like the top half because he
was so hard to animate. They couldn't have the character move significantly. So
they did a lot in this new series. The first episode they had a
tag team battle yep, and that that moment they had a tag Team Battle.
They had drama about missing Charles Xavier. There was Gene and Cyclops and
Wolverine pining so and they talked about how Munes were persecuted. So we got
the three pillars right there, and they had Gambit in a belly shirt.
Yeah, I love that. Oh did you see that Waite actor going to
Kahn and he wore that shirt. Well, the guy liked A lot of
people were saying, like a lot of negative things about it. Then they
just shoot people from the nineties and like men wearing half shirts, Like,
no, that that was happening, Like, you know, so get Adam
Sandler wore a crop top dude, didn't you go back to go back and
watch how much how many vibes are in top Gun? And that was from
the eighties, So get over yourself, go back and watch any David Roth
video opening. Come on, guys, So yeah, episode one to me
my X Men obviously you know we have them them doing other things. Cyclops
that is fucking tucked in Paula. God blessed the man and it's a square
but he used to think you do. He's my He's like, this is
my second favorite version of Cyclops, next to Wolverine and the X Men.
That Cyclops that went Nomad done by h I forget the name of the voice
actor, fucking famous. He'll come to me later. But the same time,
that did uh Drake Drake's Fortune and Drakes Revenge the charnor thank You.
Yeah, he did that version and that was my favorite. But this Cyclops
threw a spine. Yes, and I think I think they're going more towards
the Whedon run where he went dark, and I'm all for it because you
because you see reasons for it. And the first episode, as I said,
I watched it with a non comic book reader and he he saw enough
that he knew who all these characters were. I mean, he obviously knew
who Gambit was because he's walked into my room and seen my poster. But
does that not surprise me? It's just I should not surprise you. I
am a woman of a certain shy. You know, he was creating a
lab specifically for nineties era women. I guess yess he was. Okay.
I saw Highlander too. I get the trench cove fringless gloves and like the
someone put a dead poodle on his set on their head like a Davy Crockett
haircut thatth like he really was a Franken character. As far as design,
it shouldn't have worked and why they made him cajun. He speaks to himself
in his third person. He is a redhead, he's got red eyes.
There should be nothing sexy, and yet every it's just like because he's he's
because he's he's got that whole lanky, tall British thing where it's like he's
just not British. He's got hidden yeah, but it's like he's built like
a David Tennant meets uh cumber Loki, Tom Hittleston and Benedict Cumber. But
yes, Cumber Loki, they're the same person. They're not. They're tall,
thin, lanky British actors. They're all the same thing. They're just
clones. They're just clones. AnyWho, I'm married the British guy. Well
we got Magneto. I'd forgotten about his lesbian grandmother. Uh costume with crushed
red velvet gloves and the star Oh it is, I remember it, but
it was like it was like he shows up with the thing. He shows
up, he's dressed like Magneto and then he's got Patrick Swayze hair. It's
like, you're like two long foo in this motherfucker every nineties every night these
character had that hair. It's some one hundred years old yet like a little
Mankini at one point and he's like, yes, oh yeah, we'll get
to the Mankini have and talk about the Magneto cosplay like kit and all that.
But no, it was a great because said if you haven't watched those
series spoiler alert. At the end of it, Charles Xavier has to go
to space because he's been mortally wounded, and Lilandra of the Shear Empire,
who is this one true love and codependent space bitch, they're people. It's
weird there. It's very weird. Lay eggs, Yes, he likes it.
We don't think shame well, he's known from the waist down, so
it's like right now, it's it's so, but yes, Lilandra takes him
away and the world thinks Charles Xavier is dead. So in the first episode,
the X Men are kind of like, oh, what over do we
do? Cyclops is trying to sort of keep things together, and then the
mansion gets crashed by Magneto, who reads off Charles Xavier's will and he's left
everything, including the X Men, to Magneto, and the voice actor they
got from Magneto has a voice like Butter and the Gravitas. Unfortunately, the
original voice actor did pass away, so did Charles Xaviers. But the one
cool thing you also mentioned is that there were every living voice actor from the
original show either reprise their role in the case of Beast, Wolverine, Storm
and Rogue and Mister Sinister. The only one that doesn't work right now for
me, wrote is Rogue sounds like a horny year old grandmother. I understand
she's the voice actress is in her seventies at this point, so yeah,
and she's in Parliament and has to take recesses from Parliament to do it.
So it's pretty cool. But the other voice actor, so Jean Gray,
is in it, but she is not playing Geen Gray anymore. She is
Valerie Cooper Gambits original voice actor is now Cable, and Jubilee's original voice actress
was Obsessa. I don't know if we found the others, but apparently all
of them were there. Cool, but Cyclop's original voice actors. Let me
pose this to the to the group here. Obviously, When the first episode
hit, it was very much an homage to the original uh X Men cartoons,
opening because musing DaCosta instead of Jubilee as the focal point for the new
mute and joining the group, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.
I like Jubilee. I like Sunspot in the comics. This Sunspot can go
to hell. Yeah, well he's I think he's not supposed to be very
likable because he's a spoiled little rich boy. He has, but you have
to have somebody room to grow. Yeah, but yeah, I just have
to give him airtime. Right now, he's just like, he's like,
I don't wanna, I don't wanna, and she's her with the end,
I'm gonna, you know, So I think we can get to and there's
I think there's one issue that the series has. I loved him from the
comics, but not in this. Yeah, every scene he was on it
was just like, Okay, this will be over soon. But I think
he did do. I think he did do a good proxy for the audience.
And I kind I said, I liked that there was one all of
them. You know, the X Men are always flawed, so to see
someone who's sort of starting at the beginning. I kind of enjoyed him,
but he wasn't my favorite. I will Sayisode A Mutant Liberation begins. Episode
two, Magneto is forced by the Uan to stand trial. Oh yeah,
they do the trial of Magneto and he wears the lesbian grandma outit a I
mean, props to them for just going there full nineties. He did.
They did, and when he like, I don't know about you all,
but like it's one of those like when he brought the council members up into
the sky and held them there, like I could do this, but I'm
not going to. But it's like it's also a double power play, like
he'shooting, here's my benevolence, a motherfucker fuck around, FID fuck around to
find out don't make me disappoint you. It was the line don't make me
just and when he says you, he means Charles like in his hands,
like don't make me disappoint Charles because he's willing to do it. Yeah.
Yeah, it was basically basically like, you know, the very fact that
I'm surrendering to you means that I'm serious. And it was really like the
first episode was kind of it's okay, it's pretty. The fights were good.
Let's set everything up, but it was a lot of setup. Yes,
the second episode when Magneto got to speak and you got to see the
civil rights pillar of the X Men in full force, and it had the
speechifying, it had the grandiosity of the character, and it gave me that,
you know, Fastbender and McKellan vibes of this is a serious motherfucker right.
And it was so well written. The dialogue was so damn good.
It made me almost pissed off because it was it was not realistic dialogue,
but it was realistic to the character style. So yeah, and it's one
of those things like the older you get, you look and you're like,
if I was here, I'd probably more be Magneto than Professor X. Yeah,
it's the whole theme that Magneto was right is one of the being I
am one of those people that I will I Understan. It's kind of like
a Fanos's right kind of thing. I'm one of those moo things. I
will step back and like, yeah, I unfortunately side with the iron Man
aspect of civil war because you could say Magneto was right and he is about
certain things. But that's because you're holding the pen for the episode. You
know, when whenever they do these X Men cartoons and comics, we obviously
have a heavy civil rights movement because they are a proxy for everybody who's other.
And it works and it doesn't necessarily hang a lamp shade, but it
shows you by using allegory, and it's phenomenal when it does that. The
downside is they also forget there's like the world love superheroes. We got aliens,
we got fantastic radiation mutants. We've got people that get forgiven every third
Thursday. And but so when they showed the other cameos in the show like
Captain America, iron Man, Spider Man, et cetera, et cetera,
you know, these people are beloved, but the X Men are not.
Now the argument they're the good one, right, and but that but so
but again that's it's when it's written by an X Men writer, because they
really have to hammer that. That's one. That's the one thing I have
never quite understood about the Marvel universe. It doesn't make any sense. Yeah,
how come the Fantastic Four gets it gets a pass? But like you
know, they weren't born that way. They weren't born that way. And
there is I think there's a fundamental fear of every parent that their child will
be another and it taps into that fear, you are correct, but there's
also the fundamental fear of a child, like, hey, what if the
kids sitting next to you does blow up because they could well they could do
that. No, No, that's exactly. That's what started this. That's
when the one got when the when the when the new Mutants were chasing around
the Nitro, he blew up a school by accident, and that's what caused
this original civil war comic. Yeah, which they kind of would say,
uh, put to Wanda in right right, Yeah, exactly, and Wanda's
Wanda's little accident blew up Like no, this is for real because obviously when
most of these X Men hit thirteen is when like where the Hormites are kicking
in a time of stressed. At the same time, though, I would
I always one thing that annoyed me is they always fell back on the type,
especially in the movies and stuff, where it was like it's like,
oh, my child is mutant. I'm horrified. I always wanted to see
just a normal thing along the legs, like, no, look at my
strongest kid in the world. Holy shit, Look look I can. I
can. I can levity things with my mind. That's nice. Livitate the
garbage outside punkin Exactly. I can transmute anything to gold fuck great, yeah,
exactly. But you know it's they can they can do that once.
You know, it would be a great storyline once to see it as the
flip side. But it's a very important, like, let's be real,
it's a coming out. It always has and it's something very you know,
close to my heart as a parent, I get it, but it is
it is very clear that mutants are the inescapable. The other the born.
They are still a lower class. Like Captain America served as country and was
given a serum by you know, the ultimate smart men, Iron Man,
you know, is the quintessential bootstraps billionaire, right, and those are things
so I do like this shit. Yeah, but he was a scientist.
He was another great man who had an accident. But it was he wasn't
born that way. Yeah, a lot of people weren't born that way.
Spider Man got it what pretty young and when he was like a thirteen or
fourteen year old kid. It is you have these situations obviously, like it's
the born was born this way analogy. Obviously that scares people and scares parents,
but it also you also have to say you have a right because if
a kid could potentially be a gun, do you want a gun in your
school? And it's like, I'm not saying it's right, I'm not saying
it's wrong, but I'm saying the discussion has to be had. And the
X Men comments were never afraid to shy away from the discussion because it is
because and that's what Charles and Magneto came bringing it back to. Magneto was
right. That's their whole power dynamic is exactly right. It's the Malcolm X
and Martin Luther King's version of equal rights. You know, Magneto knows it
will forever be feared and be seen as other because they are a more powerful
specie. They just are. And human beings don't. Like like Drew's book
Superpowers, they constantly talk about like the supers, the powers and the humans,
and they don't. Humans don't want to be they don't. No one
wants to be the next Neanderthal. Right, And this whole episode like we
said, as we get from it, I mean episode two is when it
starts getting good. Yes, and episode three we hit what is that visitor
arrives at the mansion? Yes, yes, we having the speed run of
Inferno, which as someone who like a lot of women, hated that particular
com I know even even Claremont hated Inferno. I mean the comic book Inferno
was was was misogynistic as fuck. At the time that I saw it,
I got it, like I will I will Masogesic. Sure. Was I
a teen boy and I saw an awakening of of like there's a reason I
like her. Was her outfit awakened things in me too. There's a reason
I like Martitia Adams. Yes, it's because you know, the Goblin Queen
is smoking hot. But it also I think it's one of the those cases
where speed running it on the show may have done some favors because having it
all be tied back to and it was the introduction of mister Sinister, which,
as I said, he he was the one character that could never be
he could never turn around in the original shows. Yeah, they made sure
it is very first scene he like turns and there's just my poor husband's like,
why are you cheering a guy turning him like you don't understand. That's
like legendary that he couldn't do it, and that as writers today, it's
catch that beasts entire existence is the exposition top especially like yeah, he was
like the Jerry Springer, you are the father. He had to run in
with a clipboard going I've got the data right here. One of you was
the clone. We'll find out after this commercial break, you know, like
it, and he had no fucks to get There was no gentleness about it,
just like hey, Gene, you're not Gene. Fuck you. Yeah.
Yeah. It's like the age of this DNA. I'm like, oh,
oh you just you you see that's another thing the writer me gets angsty
about it. Okay, destroyed this family and enjoyed it, right, But
it's like they have the technology. Once they've got time travel technology that there's
tinkering on, they've got the technology to turn off mutant power. So rogue,
shut up, for love of God, shut up. This is actually
in the comics that there is a reason. There is actually a reason why
she doesn't. It causes a lot of side effects and pain. You got
thirty minutes baby, you got No, they do. That's how it's been
their honeymoon. She wears a control collar. Yeah yeah, but it's it's
it's one of those scenarios like they have all these things that are in the
technology and then they act baffled by others stuff. So the writer mean like,
don't don't intruduce something then immediately take it away. It's kind of like
when Storm loses her power and the next one up, you know, uh
like in the second half, it's like it was the power was in you
all along. No it wasn't. It was it was removed by medical science.
No, it was replaced by science too. Yes, it what we'll
get to life death. That's the next episode. We're still on Inferno and
Rachel mentioned a honeymoon which will not be happening in ninety. We haven't gotten
episode five yet. We're still on episode three. So yeah, they speed
run, speed it up, get the ship. It's a freaky episode,
though I will say the animation was was quite disturbing. Lots more soap opera
in this one. Heavy So yeah, this is this is one hundred percent
of the soap opera episode. So for those who haven't read the comics well
from an evil twin Evil twin from the Pope and goes evil eventually rereads it
breaks up. Yeah whatever. The episode five, No, we're still in
four this one was. Was that also the one where they went inside of
her like, uh uh astral vagina because the big light open up went side
the womb. Okay, cool, just making sure this was the astiral Vagina.
The next episode is the is split into two, So the first half
is Montando, which is you get Mojo, I wish there was more Mojo,
I hate him when every he didn't give and the and the second and
the second half of the episode literally was like, oh, let's take care
with lost her powers an episode and now let's give him back to her.
Like I mean literally, she she's trying in this one. She's just trying
to deal with not having her powers and she's hooked up with a man named
Forge who is tinkering on trying to find a way to fix her. Power
Long one of the great characters, one of the worst power sets. He's
like, he's in the top ten of those suckiest mutants and Power in his
intro was pretty much like a predator. He pretty much picks her up in
a bar and back. How you doing wrong, mutant. I'm not going
to mention the fact that I designed the power draining. He designed the technology
that was then turned. He's like he was, yes, so it's like
but yeah. He also is like, yeah, come to my science van.
Down to my basement. You know, there's no window. But he
was cute enough that she did go to the science van. Yeah, and
they hooked up and there was sexy time. Yes, there was much sexy
time. So we got so much sexy time that her hair grew back.
That is because she went for a oh Hawk. It's believing in herself and
she got a new outfit and hair. Not yet, I'm just okay,
we've got to get to it. So entire show. This is. This
is the episode. They have noted they have submitted this episode to the Emmy
Committee. This is guys. Yes, So this this though, is probably
the best single hour of Marvel Disney plus period. Anyone want to argue me
with that? No, No, it was stupid giant middle Finger to Leech,
to Callisto, to uh, you know, prior Moira McTaggart. We
got Nightcrawler back in that one in a land called Genosha. Yeah, and
Genosha like I was hoping hiss Kracola then we would just sit up. But
yeah, I love Genosha. I've always loved that little island paradise. You
know, they even talk about even get into the economics a little bit,
like hey, you know, it's like a shitting free but they're doing their
best. Their having a great part. And then we also learned that Dunt
Dun dun, Magneto and Rogue have a past and a creepy past because he's
like always like it. They've had little right, but but now that like
they established like hey, I was like nineteen and he's ninety seven, but
we could go to Poto Town. Well it's well, you know something that's
let's let's I mean, yeah, she's young, he's old to kind of
creepy, but at the same time, he's the only one who can create
a magnetic condom, so yeah, he there was a slight shade of is
he grooming her? Is it just a May December thing? But I think
it was cool that it did question was it creepy? What the power?
They actually talked about it. This episode, more than any other, had
the best like character moments. Yeah, probably until the last episode with Charles
and Anido. You also got to see the Gambit and Rogue relationship, Like
there was more character development on the relationships in this hour than there had been
in a lot of awesome Gambit Magneto's sniping, like talking about the plane crashing
and he's like, you know, you're the only one who can't fly,
dude, it's one. It's when he comes in he has like they have
the magnetic fly dance. That's like, it's extremely written to an ace of
bass song that was period appropriate because you know, but it's because one of
the listeners like they're Dune said every time she's looking into his eyes and he
smiles and looks around and whether they can't shoot over a camera or not.
Magneto is shooting Gambit the stink guy, like like and they kiss and Gambit
sees it. This is after they've sort of broken up their non relationship.
Yes, but after they kissed, she's like, nope, I'm sorry not
Magneto, be careful, Like, let's put a pin in that for later,
because we're like their non relationship, like obviously they care, but it's
never been evolved past a friendly flirty, caring, they're not actually in a
relationship. So when after the following events, when gloriously portrayed behind me,
now I'll give you this, Rachel, I will give you I will admit
it hurts. He looked cool, he looks cool going up against the Mega
sent crash, the party, the Mega sent When the Mega sentles hit and
he speared in the side, He's like, I'm not done. I you
know, I give credit where credit is due. He went out like a
boss and they pulled that trigger. I sat there and awe, going,
oh my god. Then I laughed for like three minutes straight. I had
to pause it, like for this actually this character, you know this,
this is like one of like the title characters who shows who showed up and
they and they, yeah, they killed him and he stayed dead not yet,
but he's going he's gonna be death. We know that. But that's
actually from the comics. I think that's the best way to handle. We
get to episode ten, we can do. But no, it was overall
like we're we're glossing over. There was so much soap opera, so many
backflips, and a little bit of civil rights because they did talk about Jenosha.
But this episode, I mean, it was one of the most intense
hours and I think even the Gambit haters looking at you, Gibbie, could
admit he went out like a boss. He did go all the boss.
Let's let's this. This was literally X Men ninety seven does the Red wedding.
You don't have to go home, but you can't stay here, get
out of here. So they killed so many, like long time, no
more than hurt my feelings. Right, yeah, Arcade has been gone for
a while, but like it was when probably dead in well we thought Magnita
was also dead because they did a switch on us. But when he looked
Leech looked at me like everything's gonna be okay, right, and he's got
to look at this kid, and he's to start speaking to him in German,
just like to call, don't be afraid. And then when he stops
Rogue from coming in, he does that whole like uh, kind of like
the Jean Gray and X Men two reach back, stop cycling, like stop
the grin, raise him up, because like it was a powerful moment and
very well done. And we are also by this point getting hints of Bastian
because all the little clues were layed in there. You saw him in the
background of for like when Forge he had a picture of him and all that,
and Bastian one of the lamest villains in the comics actually cool. I
loved him in the comics. Perilous was so like the origin was lame.
He was like all the recon reviews like that, but he was, but
he was. It was during that time of the Tolerances extinction no More Mutants,
that era of the of the late nineties late late nineties, where he
looked cool but was fairly like boring. Retread the comic at the time again
as a young man was looking at it like I, yes he was boring,
but it was good artistile. But when you take a step back,
he is just another version of a Magneto. These are the the this Machi
villain step by step process that is like it is very uhc like good doctory
excuse me, very a bond like villain and how he uh all his steps,
plans, plans within plans and backup plans. And that's like it was
that aspect was cool as a kid. Yeah, give me, get me
back to some punching and kicking, you know. But this version of Fashion.
Oh yes, THEO James who last was in animation as one of the
artificers in Castlevania. M hm. He also in The Gentleman and also on
Netflix right now, phenomenal show. Yeah he was. He was so calm
and thought he was very machine like in it, and I loved the portrayal
of them. So now you have this. We find out in the next
step Bastion is the one that sent the Sentinels and he's been pulling uh mister
Essex, uh, mister Sinister. Yeah, so they've been working together because
mister Sinister wants all the mutants to be in pen so he can play with
them. Right, So we're all like, crap, Genosh just destroyed,
Gambits dead. We're all morning, Let's have an episode with Storm get Her.
I actually this is the one episode I skipped forward. I watch uh
huh, watch Ford, uh huh, watch Ford uh huh. I loved
Life Death though in the eighties on the Run because it was such an interesting,
quiet character comic. But this just didn't work for me because they took
they took months of relationship building between Storm and Forge, you know, and
building everything that was cool in long form and short form. It just felt
to snap of the fingers. And it didn't work for me because I know
they wanted to have Storm back by the end. So I would have just
like not taken her powers away. That's me. I would have found it.
I would have used that a little. But I know they're they're they're
touching on certain things they wanted to do. So be it it just running
a few stories. Yeah, they speed speed ran that and and but she
didn't act hell out of it. Yes, she did. The voice actors
place Storm she had. You can't say she didn't have plenty to do.
She got zapped. She did get zapped. It wasn't the fact that science
didn't save her, but she was still mentally blocking her cure. She didn't
want to recover because she was unsure of herself. As soon as she was
sure of herself, the cure work. I will. I will just say
I believe you because I skipped a lot of episodes because I was bored with
my Yeah, yeah, no, it is in there. It isn't there.
Timing was just was just terrible. You know, It's the same thing
with comics. They have a huge, a huge thing, and then the
next issue is Oh, we're gonna go somewhere else and like you know,
and leave you hanging. And yeah that that was basically just like, okay,
but you're going going to a B story. Yeah, but here's the
thing, they were going to a B story and it was just not a
very interesting beast story. Jumping jumping from the death of Gambit and the and
the and and the basically the immolation of Genosha to this felt like when the
who is Cartman's Father episode of South Park we came back for the Terrence and
Philip episode, it felt like just a a just a big old fart and
it just did not it just after everything I happened, It didn't work for
me. But I mean it is a little like the post eras Death.
You go to the gold Saucer in Final Fantasy seven, like I can get
a little tonal whiplash there. I will conceive that. But that brings us
back to episode seven. Bright Eyes, Bright Eyes, that's your cable up
and back. I like cable. I like cables. He's just another product
of the nineties that came and went cable still, just like Listen, it
wasn't dead pulling Nate Gray. It's dead pulling cable for a reason. There's
a reason that character has existed. Nate Gray went the way the Dodo because
here's the thing that they didn't. Since he's not the focus, there's not
a whole lot to do with them. It's like he shows up here,
I'm this tough guy. It's like you're actually my son. Oh am,
I okay, dad, let's go play baseball. Or it's not quite that,
like he doesn't. Well, we've all learned he's done this two hundred
times. So once you realize this two hundred times, you look back,
like how many times has he had this conversation? Which I think is very
cool the way that they've done it. Plus he's grieving, he keeps watching
his mom die and he can't say, and here's the thing, you know,
I hate see it. I would rather have watched that, like,
you know, almost like a Star Trek episode of like of him just screwing
up over and over instead of the storm. But do a Groundhog's Day episode
of him trying and every time trying to get one step closer, kind of
like the last episode of Loki. Right, Yeah, I think I think
maybe because they had just done it, maybe they didn't want to do it.
But at least in this episode you start getting the plan. You meet
Fashion and he has Magneto. You have Rogue going rogue like seriously hardcore Magnito
and his MANKINI. Yeah, yeah, dude, saying if I looked like
that, I would be in my MANKINI all the time. Right now,
I just feel like a black Speedo is your Magneto cosplay kid and a lot
of magnetic powers. Him being buff at like one hundred and ten years old,
that's his superpower. Now, I will say this, I understood a
lot of what Rogue was doing, but again, my not boyfriend just died.
Now it's so much she cared about. But then she's acting I think
because she really loved him and realized she fucked up and lost him. Sure,
and that she's well again, she's definitely mad at herself. We see
that when she think Magneto is dead too, and all these other people died
and she has horrible guilt. Yeah. Off, But throwing Captain America Shields
a dick move. Just sorry. I can understand he didn't that I did
not. He's like, I want to help you, my hands are tied,
but he's like yours are not rogue. Read between the lines, but
throw your frisbee away. I'm with you until that moment, like he can't,
he'd have to put on the nomad monsters. Right, that's really far.
Okay, that's really far rogue for someone who stole their powers from someone
else. You're being kind of a dick. So I give her a pass.
It was a rough day. I give her a pass. Of wrecking
the the going down the thunderbolt, I give her a pass, or wrecking
all the military shop that's going to cause the tax mayors billions to fix.
But it was the shield that was my line. No, sorry not the
next episode dropping the guy off the building where literally the rest of the export
now that's where the survivors go kicks in. I like that. I like
that a lot like Wolver's back. They're like, yeah, I do it,
you know, yeah? Oh can I take a quick second. Wolverine
was written this season maybe, but definitely the season as John Bender from the
Breakfast Club. Yes, freaking Teacher's pet nerd. I'm gonna, I'm gonna
do you see this stabby And because he's got he's got, he's got Rebart
down the ground see my knife next to your neck? Aren't I edgy?
You're one hundred and thirty years old. Grow the fuck up. I thought
he was having a bit of fun. I liked Wolverine and he's John Bender
from the Breakfast Club. But I like the fact that he wasn't in every
episode as the focal point because there's so much X Men of the past decade
experience. Yeah, granted, I grew up that kid. I love the
edgy Wolverine the rule of cool. But every time he every time he beats
Spider Man, gets his ass kicked. So it's it's so exactly but it's
like he yes, he can, Yeah he can beat up on like just
thugs and nerds and people with and and uh flannel shirts and bars all day
long. But you know, real superpower people kicked the shout of him on
the regular. So well, yeah, because he's more he's actually more of
a ground level He really is a street like a street level guy. Like
Daredevil beats her ass, Luke Kate beats your ass, Spider Man beats your
ass, Iron Fist beats your ass. But here's the thing. The thing
about Wolverine is not who beats his ass, because he keeps getting back up
because it's just mutant power. Except after this episode where he got his metal
ripped out one of my favorite comics, and they glad they did they did
it, and they did it exactly like the comics. So we got we've
moved up to the last Basically, the last three episodes are all ones.
We can get Tollivers's Extinction parts one through three. They go there, Wolverine
gets his adamantium ripped out, but we should probably circle back. After the
Genosha massacre, Charles gets a big psychic Oh crap, everything's going to shit.
I cannot just come and shag my bird girlfriend for the rest days and
has to come back to Earth. I feel like they spent a little long
I hear. I know they had to establish that and get him home,
but I feel like, for when they're ready to go past a lot of
other people's stories but wanted to linger on this one. I wish they had
just gone a little bit faster and just had I don't think they needed the
whole war bird gladiator here. About the Leandra, it was it was nice
seeing like you gladiat here pretty much just utterly pimp slap a death bird.
Yes, like just to prove that yet. But I kind of like seeing
the space aspect of X Men just to know that they're not getting rich,
that it needs to be given justice. It was literally just a cut through.
Oh and by the way, like you know, while all this is
going on, Charles Xavier is banging the Queen of the shear right. I
also kind of liked being his torn because he was actually about to be happy
and about to have a lot of power and personal gain, and him being
Charles Xavier, he gives it all up. He gives up his girlfriend,
he gives up his potential beingking because he sees a vision of what happened in
Genosha and he sees a big gambit with a death mask on his face.
Bomb. Yeah, Oddly, it's kind of sad that they also made him
give up the like you know, the exoskeleton, that skeleton. You don't
take that with you keep that. No, See, when we were watching
when I was watching that episode, one of my best friends we call after
the episode and we talked the next day and he's like that whole He's like
that whole Magneto reversing the polarity of the planet to do an emp thing like
that, like that straight out of the comics. Dude, that is straight,
because he's like, really enough, that's what caused the X Men to
go up, and that's what led into Wolverring losing his adamantium and then oh
shit, they told they did. They just harvested that entire thing, like
yay, you know so, And it's fun watching a bunch of nerds have
to explain how not having a magnet a strong magnetic field is a bad thing
and what that does to life and what the magnetic field actually does for repelling
solar radio alliation because we're gonna be dead in like forty eight hours now.
The thing is like Magneto did all that in his MANKINI have you seen he
did? Now? Did you see the memes going around? That's like all
right, as Cyclops, Okay, Gene da da da da da. You
guys are on Blue team Wolverine, you're probably on the Red Sea and like,
is it Wolverine metal Magneto And they cut him thinking about him kissing,
and Jean's like, Wolvering, you're still on that team. You got this,
buddy, you got this? Oh yeah, yeah, not the best
matchup in the world. But I've joked that's like a running gag. At
X Men. They always throw Wolverine against Magneto and he's always just like,
dude, what X Men one? He's like you you think this is all
about you? You know, because everything I've been the Metal against Magneto,
Wolverine or Colossus. Yes, it doesn't work on Colosses, doesn't work his
his bio, his his medal is non fair, So it does not work
on Colosses from the contry. Haven't they reckon that a few times? Well,
mate, I think it depends on the all they have done it and
the arrow that I remember his his bio Metal is not I know, I
know, I know ultimate Universe he could yeah he was. He was way
too strong for Magneto. But but yeah, we're digressing. It depends on
the writer. Wasn't even in this in this seasons. But yeah, no,
they always throw a Wolverine. But the thing is they've there's always been
this sort of gentleman's agreement, like we we will stop each other, but
we don't go too far. But I think after Jenosha, yes it all.
We got every star in the podcast before we get to the jump to
the end. I just want to give a massive shout out to the Wolverine
and Nightcrawler, uh Blade fight against the fight against the Sentinel, the Prime
Sentinels, because when he's like, I got six reasons for you, bub
and he's out numbered and like, and Nightcrawler was like, no, my
friend nine because he's got the two swords and one in his tail, I'm
like, oh my god. And it's also just no and German, so
like you see you get to see his tele animated all. Yeah. I
normally am not a fan of Nightcrawler, but they did Necrow Justice in this
Uh love Nightcrawler and his daughter Nocturn fantastic characters. Yeah, because he got
to bang the Scarlet Witch in the comics chit cheen. No, let's be
honest. And the comics everybody has banged everybody else everybody. Yeah, everyone
has banged everywhere. There was this wonderous Quicksilver banged Scarlett Wish exactly they were
they were actually no, there was one where Nate Gray and Jean Gray.
No, but like brother and Sister they were. They had Lanister luston and
the Ultimate Ultimates three Yeah, oh yeah, but yeah, no, there
was literally one with Jean Gray and Nate Gray because like Hulk grabbed Wolverines,
like I hear you're the best of what you do. And I felt bad
for Wolverine in that moment because no offense to him or his prowess. She
also has she also had had relations with the Juggernaut, and I'm not saying
imagine that was that was an alternate universe version of her. She actually didn't.
I've seen the I've seen the episode print, like we could google it
right now. Anyway, it happen in X ninety seven. Uh intolerge the
extation part three where Xavier was trying to clearly fuck Magneto. He kept leaning
in for that kiss and then he was like, what are you doing?
What's wrong with your eye? Got I'm just a little closer. He's like,
dude, I'm not in the ball off. Loved though that. In
a world where so many Marvel properties end with skybeams and confusing fights, the
last episodes of X Men ninety seven ended with clear visuals of a teamwork and
an actual mental battle between Charles Xavier and Magneto, which is sort of the
core of the whole X Men. Literally them discussing philosophy psychically while the world
is going to shit and Bastian is doing battle with everything and Asteroid m is
about to crash into the Earth because humans were dumb and activated the Magneto protocols
right when they were about to get through to Bastion. So it was Also
we had a moment where Magneto refused to give in and Charles said, I'm
sorry, buddy, but I'm gonna do this anyway. I was asking permission.
Now I'm forcing myself on you. It means we've got on Slought coming
in a future show, one hundred percent, but they didn't go straight to
him now. Also for for for me being you know, King of Daddy
issues getting the cables, Scott take his eyes off Jeane helping us actually see
his father's eyes. Oh that broke me. I'm like, I'm so glad
Camp it's dead. I'm still morning gambit, okay, but it gives me
such joy. I watched out to repeat in the morning when it's like my
daily affirmation, like coffee. But anyway, h for those not watching on
the YouTube, there is a very pain smile on ri E Car's face.
Oh guess who her favorite X Men character? Of all time is guess who
mine is? Was? Yeah? Can you guess who was? You?
Guess my favorite X Men character? You probably can't. Well, you said
Nocturne, but I think Blink maybe I know you. It's in that one
Blink and nocturn Or on that team with Mile Mimic. I love that version
of Mimic because he was such and every man character, like had five powers,
half as good as everybody else, and he just refused to go down
I minute, Calvin Rankin love that character my all time favorite. But anyway,
we're in the finale, Rick, Yes, what do you think of
the finale? I got? I mean, like I like this version of
Passion better than the comics, but I still wasn't like, you know,
one sold it like honestly it was. It was it was a typical like
you know, like comic like you know, cartoon finale where it was like
okay, almost you mind you guys mentioned Final Fantasy. It was almost like
that. It's like every time we beat Bashi and he gets another upgrade,
you know, when are we gonna get his final form? That was fine.
It was more the aftermath when it was all done that I liked because
it sets up for next season, and I loved what it and I love
the stuff it set up for that season. Yeah, they brought in another
Castlevania voice actor, the other Artificer. Yes, I enjoyed this finale.
I thought it. You know, I wish we'd had maybe one more,
if we had gotten rid of like that life death one of them, like
like that kind of thing, and put in a little bit more bashing to
like just flesh out just a little bit more, just so we get a
little bit more of the of the unctious nature of the bashing character. So
his level ups and he's like refusing to go down. Why you're such a
big bad because well you have someone like Magneto who is both your greatest villain
and one of your greatest assets. Bashian's cool and all because he can like
he's he's control all the roombas around the world, but that but he's almost
a straw man villain for this. Yes, Yes, And I think that's
okay because it was the Magneto versus Xavier conflict that was ultimately it was like
something that just gone, Oh, I can just have been an off switch.
Nevermind, I got those everybody, don't worry. I got bashion fixed.
Don't worry. I can just remember my met Then he made the caller
they did. He did invent the thing, right, but he could have
put it with the phoenix up. That was like the logic there. Like
honestly, I would have been like, Okay, why don't we take care
of Passion while the powers off because that'll be a lot easier and then we'll
go handle Magneto. And probably everybody should have been like that makes a lot
of sense trying to do I think they were trying to do. They split
the party to do that because they didn't have enough time. They split the
party and they but they split it because when he that's when the cyclops shot.
Uh, Professor X. I need to give them more time. They're
not done yet, but getting see like you know, like them, we're
trying to like screw it with By the blaze of glory, he pulls the
mask off, full eye beams, lightning bulls everybody, and Wolverine's still laying
in a bed, going uh. And Morph's like, dude, just like,
because you haven't picked up on it, I'm into you just throwing it
out there. I will say I loved Morph's confession of Love to Wolverine as
Jean Gray, I that was nice. I feel like again, Morph was
h They brought him back for no reason. He was about as useful as
Beast and it sucked. I say, Morph and Beast had the smallest storylines,
but Morph was really good as providing that kind of almost every man level,
like he could literally turned a Yeah. The problem is the problem is
they kind of at the same time made morph O o Pie overpower powered but
at the same time useless. Yeah. Well, I think the issue is
he really he's the character that shows that skill is actually more powerful than raw
power because he can imitate the Hulk, but he doesn't he's not the Hulk,
Like, he's not as power. He can imitate some of the physical
powers, but he has no control. Or when Roe comes in to hit
bash in like a wrecking ball and does the clap, she does Hulk like
moves because she has the skill to back it up. She knows what she's
doing and she's like, his name was Rabbit, and like, you know
it was I friend zoned him for years. You made me be a bad
person, you jerk, you know, Like so I couldn't touch just Dick
until it was dead. He comes saying, They're like, I've got this
collar his shad. We could just totally go to you know, right,
yeah, they do that in the comics. I understood, but it's right
frecking there. They even weaponize it in a gun. They can probably a
needl. This is like an hour version. This will lasts for an hour.
It's like a Plan B for mutants. So but yes, to sum
up, we get to the Asteroid m is falling to Earth, Charles and
Xavier have to actually resolve their issues almost kiss. It feels like nine times,
but it's very cool. But this is all it's like you get.
Bastian is destroyed. Nobody though, let's let's be very clear, nobody with
Bastian. Asteroid M vanishes. At the end of the episode, you think
it's been blown up. Everyone's assuming the X Men are dead, and you
got Forge in the Lex Mansion reporting on all the missing presumed dead X Men,
and you get all your easter eggs in a very Days of Future pass
board. And then comes the actual ending to the episode where es, hey,
guys, remember me. No, he shows up at the end like
Blaster did at the end of Transformers the movie. Who skipped over the whole
movie, just jumped to the end. So yes, yeah, he was
like getting coffee or something during the season and came back tall timey. Whyman
is like, they're not dead? And then you see Rogue, Magneto,
Professor X Beast, Best all in ancient Egypt, and you can know there's
only one thing that they're going to show in Ancient Fuckings they end up saving
Apocalypse from getting fucking in the future. We have Scott and Jean, presumably
Morph and Wolverine with them in the in the we don't know where Storm Wolverine
work are. You don't see them. I thought Storm was with the other
team in ancient Egypt, right, No, if you do not see Storm,
Morph or Wolverine, which is interesting because those are all characters who in
any version of the comics have been horsemen of Apocalypse. Just saying I'm throwing
I think. I think mister Demeyo, even though he was kicked off the
show, keep tweeting out constantly that Wolverine and Morph are with them in the
future. We just didn't see them, so at least that's how it was
written. But again, then youth could be retcond if you didn't see it.
You didn't see it for later. Yeah, we didn't see it,
and he's not the showrunner anymore. But I love dude. I don't know
what he did, but man, the man brought it when it came to
this shit, did he I mean, if it's forget listen, if it's
James Gun got forbid, forgiven for some of his bad jokes on Twitter that
were tasteless. You know. I'm just saying, if it's wasn't horrible,
bring him back, because he's really good at what he does. He is
apparently, though he was difficult to work with on The Witcher and was fired
from there as well. Yeah, but there's all some reason that show's going
to tank and suck anyway, because the Witchers started getting worse and worse the
longer went on. So I don't blame him for being difficult. Yeah,
but we don't. We don't know what happened. There's been no official statement,
so yes, if he didn't do something horrible, by God, please
pull a James Gun. If he did do something horrible, I'm sorry to
find somebody just as good. Yeah, and we've gotten to the end of
the show. But there was in true Marvel Modern fashion. A post credit
scene. Mm hmmm, we get good old going through the ruins of Genosha.
We hear the voice actor of Apocalypse and he finds the Queen of Hearts
and he writes, is the word death death so much foreshadowing that mister mister
lebom remit remed libt whatever and no one history does remember miss the post credits
scene. Oh no, so that is a really cool post credit scene of
him lifting up the Queen of Hearts and saying, so Apocalypse, so much
death and if you have yes, yes. Apocalypse ends up turning Gambit into
one of his most fearsome horsemen of death. But to be fair, everybody's
been death. Wolverine has been death. Archan Wolverine was war. There was
death also he was war, okay. Archangel was that everybody's going to work
and then it's hard to take the Angel of death excelence, and Storm was
famine. That's why I said it's interesting the only one. No, no,
this is not a dig. This is not a dig at miss car.
But it is like, hey, y'all, I'm death moon on me
like I can't. I'm sorry. It just got angel looks cool. With
wings and shit was frightening. He looks totally different. It was. It
was frightening. In the comics, he wasn't quite as Gambit because the image
that that Professor x Sall in his mind looked like skull Fire from X Men
twenty ninety nine. I know, but he didn't. He didn't look like
that in the comics. He but they I don't know how they're going to
do his appearance in the show. They have modified some spinoff X Men twenty
ninety nine in the style I loved X Men twenty ninety nine. I think
I was the only one who read that No, no, no, I
have I still have my issues, and I still still their mediocre. At
Skull he was again, I felt like someone someone said, hey, let's
take game Ambit's hair and Wolverine's attitude and shake him up, because after after
he had his glow up, he won his his psychotic break like, you
know, like the guy that was cool was the one that could turn into
metal Eddie and he could turn out all the different metals and make music off
his body. I liked him, you know, I just thought they were
cool. I liked I liked them, but you know, I am remember
it might be nostalgia Hayes, but I did like them. I think I
think Spider Man twenty ninety nine was better. Oh yeah, because that still
stands up. Obviously, miguel O Hare is just dope, so but is
their own. But yes, that was our rambling about X Men ninety seven.
I will say that my overall view of the series was it was really
positive and I think episode five was pretty much flawless. My one complaint was
I think they were so worried that they were only going to get one season,
or think that they decided, you know what, if we're gonna go,
we're gonna go out with a bang. And I think because of modern
streaming like the budgets being slashed and shows being that, they said we're going
to do every major beat And it was a little bit at times, but
I'd rather, I would honestly rather have been super rushed and exhilarated than bored.
And I wasn't bored watching It's definitely not. Yeah. Well, because
they also set up a style where you can have this quick turnaround in a
gasp moment and as long as they don't stick to the formula too much.
Every once in a while, you got to like let some things breathe.
But they have a good formula, and I think if they do go forward.
Now, if they ever just made the Age of Apocalypse storyline and like
just hit the reset button just like that would be I'm in oh, that
would be amazing. Well, the thing is, now that they have proven
themselves, I think they might be able to breathe. I'm really hoping they
have more than ten episodes, because I would love if they had like three
or four episodes per time period and they had like something like thirteen episodes where
it's yes for four and then the last episode of everyone Together, bring your
endgame moment. Yeah, because yeah, I wanted to see more of Magneto
trying to be a good guy. I wanted to see Rogan Sunspot at the
end try to be bad guys. I wanted to see more of Storm without
Powers. I wanted to see more Bastion. But at least what we did
get was well done, and they certainly hit the cliff notes. I never
felt lost or going this is out of nowhere. And they had a great
funeral scene for the best death of the dumbest character and all of that,
and on that note I'm going for about an hour and fifteen, so we'll
let's just leave it off on that sad slash hilarious note. Remember it all
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