WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.320 --> 00:00:08.039 We tend to forget c behinds the midst of false indust revolution, which accelerates 2 00:00:08.039 --> 00:00:15.240 global change in much more comprehensive and faster ways since the previously revolutions. Here 3 00:00:15.240 --> 00:00:22.679 with Bill Gates at Davos Diversity Foster's new ideas, new ideas generate the experimentation 4 00:00:22.920 --> 00:00:28.039 needed to make the most of the Fourth Industrial Revolution. The purpose is clear 5 00:00:28.280 --> 00:00:32.039 to collapse the liberal international order. Well, we always have to worry that 6 00:00:32.119 --> 00:00:36.399 a new epidemic is going to come along, flu epidemic that could go global 7 00:00:36.520 --> 00:00:43.560 industry revolution which impact our lives completely. The World Economic Forum has become a 8 00:00:43.600 --> 00:00:49.479 prominent organization in media. Meeting in Davos, Switzerland once a year, world 9 00:00:49.560 --> 00:00:55.280 leaders, celebrities, and elites gather to discuss the state of world affairs and 10 00:00:55.320 --> 00:00:59.719 the betterments of the world economy. Under the guides of helping the poor, 11 00:01:00.200 --> 00:01:07.599 climate change and democracy. These elites meet in lockstep to influence the future global 12 00:01:07.640 --> 00:01:29.319 direction. The mystery man behind it all, Klaus Schwab, seen by many 13 00:01:29.480 --> 00:01:34.879 as a well connected figure whom is invested in the betterment of humanity, has 14 00:01:34.959 --> 00:01:42.079 publicly run ad campaigns for the WEF, popularizing the slogan you will own nothing 15 00:01:42.439 --> 00:01:48.879 and be happy. Many have raised concern over the agenda of the WEF not 16 00:01:49.040 --> 00:01:56.120 being genuine and actually a mask for a totalitarian plot to world government. The 17 00:01:56.239 --> 00:02:00.760 real truth lies with the founder, Klaus Schwab, who if exposed to the 18 00:02:00.840 --> 00:02:07.480 general public, would be seen as an influencer in shadow government, with family 19 00:02:07.560 --> 00:02:19.960 ties to the Nazi Party through his father Eugene Schwab. Why the Eugene Schwab. 20 00:02:20.400 --> 00:02:24.919 Klaus Schwab's father was a machine engineer in Ravensburg, Germany, for a 21 00:02:25.039 --> 00:02:32.680 German branch of a Swiss company called Eskerweiss and Sea Switzerland. Having historically deep 22 00:02:32.719 --> 00:02:38.240 ties to Ravensburg, Germany since the eighteen thirties due to the horse market, 23 00:02:38.560 --> 00:02:44.919 brings no question why roughly one hundred years later they would still do business. 24 00:02:45.000 --> 00:02:51.560 In nineteen thirty southern Germany. Eskerweiss and Sea became the largest employer in the 25 00:02:51.639 --> 00:02:59.159 region and was later complimented by Hitler as a quote national socialist model factory end 26 00:02:59.280 --> 00:03:07.280 quote. Under Eugene Schwab's management during the war, the Eskerweis mechanical manufacturing company 27 00:03:07.319 --> 00:03:12.840 in Ravensburg went on to use for slave labour. Under the direction of Eugene 28 00:03:13.039 --> 00:03:20.719 Schwab as the company was contracted by the Nazi military for manufacturing weapons of war. 29 00:03:21.360 --> 00:03:27.919 According to the National Archives under the Holocaust era assets there it shows business 30 00:03:27.919 --> 00:03:35.080 dealings with Eskerweiss and Germany, also stating that Switzerland allowed German exports to be 31 00:03:35.120 --> 00:03:39.439 stored in their country, further proving that Switzerland was not neutral during the Second 32 00:03:39.479 --> 00:03:46.919 World War. Eugene Schwab would eventually be elected president of the Ravensburg Chamber of 33 00:03:47.000 --> 00:03:54.039 Congress and Industry in nineteen sixty six, stating that the founding of the committee 34 00:03:54.479 --> 00:04:00.800 creates better and faster connections for large circles in our inna increasingly closer Europe, 35 00:04:01.240 --> 00:04:10.800 and thus offers new opportunities for cultural, economic and social development. Klaus Schwab, 36 00:04:11.280 --> 00:04:16.800 son of Eugene Wilhelm Schwab and Erika Eprecht, was born March thirtieth, 37 00:04:17.079 --> 00:04:25.480 nineteen thirty eight in Ravensburg, Germany. Klaus Schwab was encouraged to follow in 38 00:04:25.680 --> 00:04:31.120 the footsteps of his father and also became a mechanical engineer, studying at the 39 00:04:31.120 --> 00:04:38.279 Swiss Federal Institute of Technology and completing his study in nineteen sixty two. In 40 00:04:38.360 --> 00:04:42.879 nineteen sixty seven, Klaus Schwab attended the John F. Kennedy School of Government 41 00:04:43.240 --> 00:04:46.800 at Harvard, where he met Henry Kissinger, whom was his college professor. 42 00:04:47.759 --> 00:04:54.000 The two formed a close relationship, and later Klaus Schwab professed that Henry Kissinger 43 00:04:54.120 --> 00:04:59.720 is amongst the top four most influential people in his entire life. It should 44 00:04:59.720 --> 00:05:04.120 allo be noted that in nineteen sixty seven, Klaus Schwab amassed influence in Swiss 45 00:05:04.160 --> 00:05:12.000 business, taking a lead in a merger between companies Solzer and Eskerwiss. Tapping 46 00:05:12.079 --> 00:05:17.560 into the former family business, he transformed Solzer Eskerweiss to a path of medical 47 00:05:17.600 --> 00:05:24.360 technology products, something not previously on the agenda for the two companies. With 48 00:05:24.519 --> 00:05:30.279 the influence of Klaus Schwab, Solzer Eskerwiss would venture into the worldwide nuclear arms 49 00:05:30.360 --> 00:05:36.959 race and participate in a legal production of nuclear weapon technology. In nineteen sixty 50 00:05:38.079 --> 00:05:43.560 nine, the company dropped Edgar Weiss from their name and rebranded as Solzer ag. 51 00:05:44.480 --> 00:05:47.399 This more than likely was so there was no paper trail associated with the 52 00:05:47.399 --> 00:05:57.399 former name affiliated with Nazi collaboration and illegal activities. January twenty fourth, nineteen 53 00:05:57.519 --> 00:06:01.600 seventy one, Klaus Schwab founded the word World Economic Forum. The foundation is 54 00:06:01.720 --> 00:06:08.560 funded by one thousand member companies with more than five billion dollar turnover, as 55 00:06:08.600 --> 00:06:15.040 well as public subsidies. Their mission is quote improving the state of the world 56 00:06:15.199 --> 00:06:20.800 by engaging business, political, academic and other leaders of society to shape global, 57 00:06:21.199 --> 00:06:29.480 regional and industry agendas and quote. Klaus Schwab's inspiration for the formation of 58 00:06:29.600 --> 00:06:34.079 the WEF was the Club of Rome, which was founded in nineteen sixty eight 59 00:06:34.560 --> 00:06:40.480 at a residence in Bellaggio, Italy, owned by the Rockefeller family. The 60 00:06:40.560 --> 00:06:46.759 Club of Rome's general belief is that population growth is unsustainable for the planet and 61 00:06:46.800 --> 00:06:53.720 the only way to combat this is world government. The World Economic Forum has 62 00:06:53.839 --> 00:07:00.519 taken these ideas and modernized them and have even publicly published their idea ideas on 63 00:07:00.560 --> 00:07:08.120 their website with their plan for sustainability and globalization. The ideas of carbon footprint 64 00:07:08.319 --> 00:07:15.959 and banning fossil fuels is only a ploy to track and trace civilians through the 65 00:07:15.000 --> 00:07:23.959 grid and cut off mobility, similar to the model of sidewalk labs. A 66 00:07:24.000 --> 00:07:30.560 study carried out by Google in Toronto as a quote smart city end quote for 67 00:07:30.759 --> 00:07:35.759 mass surveillance. This is the massed agenda that Klaus Schwab and the world economic 68 00:07:35.879 --> 00:07:43.120 form have for you and your family under the deception of the climate change agenda 69 00:07:43.680 --> 00:07:49.920 and economic equality. Klaus Schwab refers to it as the fourth Industrial Revolution, 70 00:07:50.800 --> 00:08:01.120 which could be construed as a fourth Turning or a fourth Reich Revolution. Will 71 00:08:01.160 --> 00:08:05.959 impact our lives completely. It will not only change how we communicate, how 72 00:08:05.959 --> 00:08:11.040 we can use, how we consume. It will change actually us our own 73 00:08:11.160 --> 00:08:20.600 identity, and of course gives life to such policies and developments like smart traffic, 74 00:08:20.759 --> 00:08:26.639 smart government, smart cities. What we will see is that everything will 75 00:08:26.639 --> 00:08:35.919 be integrated into an ecosystem, driven by big data and driven particularly by close 76 00:08:35.039 --> 00:08:45.080 cooperation also of governments with business, civil society. And since revolution will come 77 00:08:45.320 --> 00:08:50.960 at a race taking speed, it will be like a tsunami. The economic 78 00:08:50.000 --> 00:08:56.639 phone is doing is to promote since public private corporation to masters, sup for 79 00:08:56.759 --> 00:09:03.440 citis to them. Many have disregarded the Nazis as being dismantled after the Second 80 00:09:03.440 --> 00:09:09.440 World War, the continuation of Hitler's ideas lives right underneath the surface for those 81 00:09:09.480 --> 00:09:16.519 who won't pay attention. Unlike Hitler, whose plan for world domination failed through 82 00:09:16.600 --> 00:09:22.120 force, elites like Klaus Schwab have proceeded with these same ideas through stealth. 83 00:09:22.440 --> 00:09:26.360 It is a big idea, a new world order, and now's the time 84 00:09:26.399 --> 00:09:30.799 when things are shifting. We're gonna there's gonna be a new world order out 85 00:09:30.840 --> 00:09:33.840 there, and we are in the midst of one of the historic global transformations 86 00:09:35.480 --> 00:09:41.200 that is going to eventually lead to a new world order. Read my lips. 87 00:09:41.519 --> 00:09:48.480 Which nations administration do you most admire the level of admiration I actually have 88 00:09:48.720 --> 00:09:54.799 for China. Their basic dictatorship is allowing them to actually turn their economy around 89 00:09:54.840 --> 00:10:00.159 on a diamond. Just like Hitler, who influenced the ideas of your young 90 00:10:00.240 --> 00:10:05.000 people through Hitler Youth, the World Economic Form is molding children of the elders' 91 00:10:05.080 --> 00:10:13.919 families through the WEF's Young Global Leaders Program, influencing future government leaders of the 92 00:10:13.960 --> 00:10:20.679 World Economic forms ideas of their global plan for sustainability. The Young Global Leaders 93 00:10:20.679 --> 00:10:24.759 Program here for executive education and the Schwab Fellows. But there are two countries 94 00:10:24.759 --> 00:10:28.360 in the world now in which the young Global media leaders have emerged. Tell 95 00:10:28.440 --> 00:10:35.120 us just a bit about that in terms of the government. Yes, actually, 96 00:10:37.279 --> 00:10:43.720 this is notion to integrate young leaders is part of the economy going since 97 00:10:43.799 --> 00:10:50.120 many years, and I have to say, and I mentioned our names like 98 00:10:50.240 --> 00:10:56.559 this is welcome, even letting me a Putin and so on, say all 99 00:10:56.639 --> 00:11:03.080 have been young global leaders of sabol they can before. But what we are 100 00:11:03.240 --> 00:11:11.519 very proud of now this young generation, like primunist Trudeau, President of Argentina 101 00:11:11.559 --> 00:11:20.200 and so on, repenetrates the cabinets. So yesterday at a reception for private 102 00:11:20.679 --> 00:11:30.200 Trudeau and I know half of CIS cabinet or even more half of half of 103 00:11:30.279 --> 00:11:37.480 siminor ah for our actually young nobody in Kent. These same elites who have 104 00:11:39.000 --> 00:11:45.679 graduated as alumni from the Young Leader's program serve in high places for generations to 105 00:11:45.799 --> 00:11:50.399 come. While the public may believe that their vote matters, they would be 106 00:11:50.480 --> 00:11:56.960 shocked to find out that the agenda is the same regardless of political ideology. 107 00:11:58.200 --> 00:12:05.399 According to the form of Global Young Leaders, the alumni community consists of six 108 00:12:05.519 --> 00:12:11.679 hundred plus members across ninety countries. Klaus Schwab's purpose and agenda for the World 109 00:12:11.799 --> 00:12:18.519 Economic Forum is to undermine and supersede the freedom of sovereign citizens by consolidating the 110 00:12:18.600 --> 00:12:26.600 powers and leaders of government to fall in line with the global agenda of authoritarianism. 111 00:12:26.200 --> 00:12:31.639 Every year, elites meet in Davos, Switzerland to discuss the future of 112 00:12:31.720 --> 00:12:37.159 sovereign citizens. The elites claim they know what's best for humanity and feel intellectually 113 00:12:37.240 --> 00:12:43.600 superior to what they view as the peasant class, which separates the haves from 114 00:12:43.639 --> 00:12:48.919 the have nots. Attendees of these meetings range from all political parties, bankers, 115 00:12:50.480 --> 00:12:56.000 actors, and even musicians who share the like minded agenda of sustainability constructed 116 00:12:56.080 --> 00:13:07.679 by public private partnerships aka corporate fascism. This loophole through the corporation has created 117 00:13:07.720 --> 00:13:13.320 a slave ship between employee and employer, consumer and business owner. Under the 118 00:13:13.320 --> 00:13:20.840 guise of corporate fascism, all human rights are disregarded and made to be under 119 00:13:20.960 --> 00:13:28.600 the jurisdiction of private business. Corporate fascism can also be seen as stakeholder capitalism, 120 00:13:28.320 --> 00:13:33.480 a system in which corporations abide by the terms of the highest stakeholders, 121 00:13:33.879 --> 00:13:39.919 who lobby for their personal agenda through the means of the company. This means 122 00:13:41.240 --> 00:13:48.519 that elite leaders in power who hold private stock can operate and carry out their 123 00:13:48.559 --> 00:13:54.240 agenda through the private corporation in the shadow government. This agenda is exactly the 124 00:13:54.320 --> 00:14:01.159 plant being used by Klaus Schwab in the World Economic Forum, as you can 125 00:14:01.240 --> 00:14:05.799 only govern at the will of the people until the people's will has been stolen 126 00:14:05.879 --> 00:14:13.960 right from under them unknowingly. The plans of Hitler were unfathomable in comparison to 127 00:14:15.080 --> 00:14:20.360 the scale of the world stage and the players involved today. Through stealth and 128 00:14:20.480 --> 00:14:28.080 crisis such as war, climate change, and economic equality, the plan for 129 00:14:28.200 --> 00:14:33.240 a sustainable earth, ruled by elites in the world government are made possible to 130 00:14:33.320 --> 00:14:39.039 be planned and carried out by the ideas exchanged through the indoctrination of the World 131 00:14:39.200 --> 00:14:46.480 Economic Forum. The past tells the future, and the more informed those can 132 00:14:46.519 --> 00:14:50.960 be about Klaus Schwab and his intentions through the World Economic Forum, the less 133 00:14:52.120 --> 00:14:56.639 likely the human population will be coerced into a prison planet design. Though it 134 00:14:56.679 --> 00:15:03.000 may not seem like there's a controversy thee amongst nations, the very elites on 135 00:15:03.080 --> 00:15:07.559 the world stage involved are meeting behind closed doors, in public and in private, 136 00:15:09.080 --> 00:15:13.919 in front of all of us to be discovered. The World Economic Forum 137 00:15:15.080 --> 00:15:20.440 is the public face for the global agenda, and Klaus Schwab is the public 138 00:15:20.519 --> 00:15:28.879 face for shadow government and private public partnership worldwide. As crony capitalism lives on. 139 00:15:28.440 --> 00:15:37.279 Beware of the consequences and the players involved. 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He has been He's the founder of the Barne Group, a market 158 00:17:22.000 --> 00:17:26.319 research firm that has specialized and looking at what is happening to our culture and 159 00:17:26.400 --> 00:17:32.480 to Christians in general, the intersection of faith and culture. He's been doing 160 00:17:32.480 --> 00:17:33.720 this for quite a while. He's written a lot of books, and he's 161 00:17:33.720 --> 00:17:38.559 got a new book now talking about perhaps so what we can do about some 162 00:17:38.559 --> 00:17:45.359 of the worst problems and maybe really the core issue as to the direction that 163 00:17:45.400 --> 00:17:48.759 our country has been going down. So I want to talk to him about 164 00:17:48.759 --> 00:17:52.200 that book, but also kind of get an idea of what he has seen 165 00:17:52.880 --> 00:17:57.359 with a front row seat since the nineteen eighties in our country. I thank 166 00:17:57.400 --> 00:18:00.000 you for joining us, George Barne. Thanks for join us. George, 167 00:18:00.400 --> 00:18:03.279 Yeah, thanks for having me on, David. Let's talk a little bit 168 00:18:03.279 --> 00:18:07.279 about that. Give people kind of we all see what is happening to our 169 00:18:07.319 --> 00:18:11.759 culture, this detachment for reality, this postmodernism and all the rest of this 170 00:18:11.799 --> 00:18:17.400 stuff. But give us some metrics, let's say that you would have seen 171 00:18:17.440 --> 00:18:22.240 as part of the Barna group over the last few decades. Yeah, there 172 00:18:22.240 --> 00:18:26.359 have been a number of things that I've been tracking for about four decades. 173 00:18:26.440 --> 00:18:30.960 You know. One of those has to do with people's perspectives on truth. 174 00:18:30.880 --> 00:18:37.599 And what we've seen is a consistent deterioration of the notion that there is absolute 175 00:18:37.720 --> 00:18:42.279 moral truth, that there can be such a thing as absolute moral truth. 176 00:18:44.480 --> 00:18:48.119 So that's a big issue because when you take that out of the equation, 177 00:18:48.279 --> 00:18:52.880 you've got to go somewhere to get your understanding of reality. And rather than 178 00:18:52.920 --> 00:18:57.880 go and search for any kind of absolutes, what we do is we turn 179 00:18:57.920 --> 00:19:03.319 inward. And that's what's happened in America is now rather than say that we 180 00:19:03.400 --> 00:19:10.759 believe in God, basically what we do is we believe in ourselves. And 181 00:19:10.839 --> 00:19:15.759 so that's a big game changer right there as well, where we've seen a 182 00:19:15.920 --> 00:19:21.960 huge increase in the proportion of what I would call the don'ts, people who 183 00:19:22.519 --> 00:19:26.119 don't believe God exists, don't know if he exists, don't care if he 184 00:19:26.200 --> 00:19:30.759 exists. And you know, we're basically with our young adults, people under 185 00:19:30.799 --> 00:19:37.559 fifty, they represent close to a third of the population now, so that's 186 00:19:37.559 --> 00:19:42.960 a massive shift. We've seen a big shift in our morals the basis of 187 00:19:44.000 --> 00:19:48.119 our morals. Of course, if there's no absolute moral truth, on what 188 00:19:48.240 --> 00:19:55.599 basis do we determine morality? Again, it's our feelings, And so that's 189 00:19:55.680 --> 00:20:00.680 a big shift. And now we're at a place where most Americans are confused 190 00:20:00.759 --> 00:20:08.079 about most major moral issues, whether we're talking about abortion, whether we're talking 191 00:20:08.079 --> 00:20:18.400 about divorce, whether we're talking about homosexuality, transgenderism, basis of personal identity, 192 00:20:19.079 --> 00:20:23.960 all of that has seen major shifts in the last ten to fifteen years. 193 00:20:26.359 --> 00:20:32.240 I would say that we're a society now that really gears itself towards trying 194 00:20:32.480 --> 00:20:40.799 to achieve happiness. And that's the major goal of most Americans. We want 195 00:20:40.839 --> 00:20:45.200 to be happy. We do what we can to ensure that our children will 196 00:20:45.200 --> 00:20:49.400 be happy, and like that. And then of course you have to ask, 197 00:20:49.440 --> 00:20:53.079 well, why did all of these shifts take place? And so much 198 00:20:53.119 --> 00:21:02.960 of it is because of the influence and exposure to media, particularly arts and 199 00:21:03.079 --> 00:21:07.279 entertainment media. And what I've found in the research that I've been doing is 200 00:21:07.319 --> 00:21:15.279 that the greatest influence on our worldview the kinds of decisions that we make comes 201 00:21:15.359 --> 00:21:22.279 from media influence. So whether it's movies or television, or social media or 202 00:21:22.359 --> 00:21:30.720 video games or whatever media you choose, that's having more influence than everything else 203 00:21:30.880 --> 00:21:34.640 combined in our lives as best I can tell. Even education, you would 204 00:21:34.680 --> 00:21:38.920 say, yeah, even more of the well yeah, well, it certainly 205 00:21:40.000 --> 00:21:42.400 is visceral. And if people are just going to turn inward to their feelings, 206 00:21:42.400 --> 00:21:45.480 that's what they're going to pick up on. You know, it's kind 207 00:21:45.480 --> 00:21:51.039 of interesting as we look at this detachment from any idea of objective truth. 208 00:21:51.119 --> 00:21:56.079 It's gotten so bad that it reflects in our inability to even do or care 209 00:21:56.119 --> 00:22:00.200 about math or anything else like that. And you know, even our ender, 210 00:22:00.240 --> 00:22:03.440 our biological gender, we don't have anything that is objective. Everything is 211 00:22:03.480 --> 00:22:07.960 subjective and whatever you want it to be. Even now we've got kids who 212 00:22:07.000 --> 00:22:12.079 are dressing up as furries. I mean, it's getting to an extreme that 213 00:22:12.680 --> 00:22:15.279 you know, all of my life I would looked at this and said, 214 00:22:15.319 --> 00:22:18.960 this is a parody. This can't be real. This is like something out 215 00:22:18.960 --> 00:22:21.720 of Babylon Bee. But that's the reality that we live in right now, 216 00:22:21.759 --> 00:22:27.000 isn't it. It really is. And so when you make your feelings the 217 00:22:27.039 --> 00:22:33.480 basis of your reality. You know, the whole game changes, and so 218 00:22:33.799 --> 00:22:44.759 trying to reason with people becomes exceedingly difficult because Americans are less and less willing 219 00:22:45.519 --> 00:22:52.039 to consider, much less accept facts. An empirical argument doesn't have much of 220 00:22:52.079 --> 00:22:56.680 a basis in America today. Yeah, and that's really going to tear our 221 00:22:56.680 --> 00:22:59.759 society apart in every regard. I mean, how do you even do science 222 00:23:00.000 --> 00:23:04.519 engineering? It really was the understanding that there is a discoverable reality, a 223 00:23:04.559 --> 00:23:11.519 discoverable truth that came. We had a lot of foundational scientists who were coming 224 00:23:11.519 --> 00:23:15.079 from that Christian perspective, Francis Bacon and many others, Isaac Newton, we 225 00:23:15.079 --> 00:23:19.079 can discover as God's truth, there is a reality here. Now we've taken 226 00:23:19.119 --> 00:23:22.519 God out of the equation and we've taken reality out of the equation. And 227 00:23:22.519 --> 00:23:26.920 so it's going to affect everything. Even in our material society. The things 228 00:23:26.920 --> 00:23:32.279 that people are looking at to make them happy and comfortable, those things are 229 00:23:32.319 --> 00:23:36.039 going to disappear as well, because everything is hinged to that tell us a 230 00:23:36.039 --> 00:23:41.079 little bit about you coined some words that some phrases in terms of looking at 231 00:23:41.079 --> 00:23:47.599 this spir attainment. That's entertainment based there as well as a spiritual I guess 232 00:23:47.599 --> 00:23:51.279 tell us a little bit about that and why you coined that word. Well, 233 00:23:51.720 --> 00:23:56.039 there was a time a couple decades ago when there seemed to be a 234 00:23:56.119 --> 00:24:03.200 movement to really try to integrate faith into entertainment, particularly the Christian faith into 235 00:24:03.319 --> 00:24:11.240 entertainment. And so that term is the blending of spirituality and entertainment, recognizing 236 00:24:11.279 --> 00:24:18.920 that every entertainment vehicle conveys a worldview, and at that point in time, 237 00:24:19.039 --> 00:24:26.720 there seemed to be some momentum growing for the Christian excuse me, the biblical 238 00:24:26.720 --> 00:24:33.559 worldview being ingrained in more entertainment vehicles, particularly movies and television, but also 239 00:24:33.680 --> 00:24:41.000 an increasing amount of online entertainment, streamed entertainment that seems now to have diminished 240 00:24:41.519 --> 00:24:45.200 over the last decade or so, so that momentum that had been building up 241 00:24:45.759 --> 00:24:52.559 seemed to fall off. So that phrase never really pick up much momentum, 242 00:24:52.640 --> 00:24:56.559 just as that approached entertainment development never picked up. It could be kind of 243 00:24:56.599 --> 00:25:00.279 applied to what we see in some of the big megachurches that have fog machines 244 00:25:00.279 --> 00:25:04.759 everywhere. I always thought that the fog machine with an author contemporary worship was 245 00:25:04.839 --> 00:25:10.279 kind of a metaphor of something that was happening in those churches, but you 246 00:25:10.319 --> 00:25:14.599 know, they tried to pursue that entertainment aspect of it, and you know 247 00:25:14.799 --> 00:25:18.240 it didn't work out too well. I think it is. We've had a 248 00:25:18.240 --> 00:25:22.519 couple of recent successes, and perhaps there will be some new movement. It's 249 00:25:22.519 --> 00:25:26.160 hard to win a culture war if you don't have a culture if you don't 250 00:25:26.279 --> 00:25:29.079 engage to them in certain ways, and so you know, we've had some 251 00:25:29.119 --> 00:25:30.880 fairly successful movies in the last couple of months. I don't know if that's 252 00:25:30.880 --> 00:25:33.720 going to be a trend or not. It's too soon to tell, isn't 253 00:25:33.720 --> 00:25:37.480 it. I think it is. I think we'll probably always have one or 254 00:25:37.519 --> 00:25:45.160 two current examples of Christian based entertainment that do well because there still remains in 255 00:25:45.200 --> 00:25:52.799 our culture a pretty significant number people who really wrap their lives around their Christian 256 00:25:52.880 --> 00:25:57.880 faith. And so when those kinds of media vehicles are released, yes, 257 00:25:57.960 --> 00:26:04.160 they'll find that audience. But in terms of building greater attentiveness and a greater 258 00:26:04.440 --> 00:26:10.000 appetite for that kind of entertainment, I don't think that's been done effectively, 259 00:26:10.039 --> 00:26:12.480 and we're not at a point where it appears that we can sustain that right 260 00:26:12.519 --> 00:26:18.400 now. Yeah, it's gonna be interesting because the other the standard Hollywood stuff 261 00:26:18.559 --> 00:26:23.119 has gotten so dark and so nihilistic that it's kind of collapsing in and of 262 00:26:23.160 --> 00:26:29.319 itself. It's not really entertaining anymore. And you know, with what happened 263 00:26:29.359 --> 00:26:32.000 with the shutdowns of movie theaters and everything, I think they've had a hard 264 00:26:32.039 --> 00:26:37.279 time coming back, and it's just it's kind of just feeding on itself and 265 00:26:37.079 --> 00:26:41.319 there's not really any creativity there. It seems like there's a real vacuum in 266 00:26:41.359 --> 00:26:45.880 that area. But who knows what will happen with that, Which brings us 267 00:26:45.920 --> 00:26:48.640 to another one of the terms that you coined, sage cons tell us little 268 00:26:48.640 --> 00:26:56.599 bit about that. Yeah, that's an acronym for spiritually active governance. Engaged 269 00:26:56.839 --> 00:27:06.079 Conservative Christians represent somewhere around eight nine, maybe ten percent of the adult population 270 00:27:06.160 --> 00:27:12.200 in America. And these are individuals whose lives are driven by their Christian faith. 271 00:27:12.319 --> 00:27:18.440 And one of the unique characteristics about them is that they're very tuned into 272 00:27:18.480 --> 00:27:22.640 politics, not because they care about it, not because they have a natural 273 00:27:22.680 --> 00:27:29.160 inclination toward it, but because they recognize that their faith in Christ calls them 274 00:27:29.319 --> 00:27:33.440 to be involved in every dimension of society and to try to influence it for 275 00:27:33.519 --> 00:27:38.480 the cause of Christ. And so government is just one of those arenas. 276 00:27:40.000 --> 00:27:45.200 But the result of that is that they not only pay more attention to news 277 00:27:45.200 --> 00:27:49.640 and information about politics and government, but they vote every chance they get, 278 00:27:51.200 --> 00:27:56.839 and they really try to understand the issues more than the average American would. 279 00:27:56.440 --> 00:28:02.039 And you'd say that is that increasing or decrease what you've seen lately? Are 280 00:28:02.079 --> 00:28:06.880 we getting more or less sage cons? Right, it's been stable for the 281 00:28:06.960 --> 00:28:11.160 last five years or so. But as we look forward and project to what's 282 00:28:11.200 --> 00:28:15.880 going to happen in the population, we expect that number to be on the 283 00:28:15.960 --> 00:28:23.319 decline unless there is some kind of an awakening, spiritual awakening that's Bible base, 284 00:28:23.440 --> 00:28:27.319 that takes place in America in the next decade or so. We don't 285 00:28:27.359 --> 00:28:32.680 see that on the horizon, but you never know when the Holy Spirit's going 286 00:28:32.720 --> 00:28:34.559 to bring that kind of out pouring of faith. That's right, Yeah, 287 00:28:34.640 --> 00:28:37.240 that's what it's dependent upon. Now. So you're looking at you know, 288 00:28:37.240 --> 00:28:41.319 the sage cons. They are going to be adults, probably a bit older. 289 00:28:41.400 --> 00:28:45.640 But as I said, you've been doing this since the nineteen eighties and 290 00:28:45.720 --> 00:28:48.400 a couple of decades ago, you kind of had an epiphany about what was 291 00:28:48.480 --> 00:28:53.400 really missing in terms of turning towards focusing on children. Tell us little bit 292 00:28:53.400 --> 00:28:57.279 about that. Yeah, well, I've been doing a lot of research and 293 00:28:57.319 --> 00:29:04.039 continue to do a lot of research to the Cultural Research Center on worldview and 294 00:29:04.599 --> 00:29:11.079 once there are a number of startling things I think about worldview in America, 295 00:29:11.680 --> 00:29:17.440 one of which is how few Americans have a biblical worldview. It's four percent 296 00:29:17.519 --> 00:29:22.440 among adults right now, even less among young people, in spite of the 297 00:29:22.480 --> 00:29:27.000 fact that sixty eight percent of Americans consider themselves to be Christian. So there's 298 00:29:27.039 --> 00:29:33.519 a huge disconnect there. A couple decades ago, as we were looking at 299 00:29:33.559 --> 00:29:40.759 some of the details of this, what we found is that a person's worldview 300 00:29:40.799 --> 00:29:45.480 begins developing between eight to fifteen to eighteen months of age and thirteen years of 301 00:29:45.480 --> 00:29:49.960 age. At the age of thirteen, a person's worldview is almost fully developed. 302 00:29:51.240 --> 00:29:53.160 Tell us a little bit before we go, tell us your definition of 303 00:29:53.200 --> 00:29:56.519 a worldview there, so we I mean, it's kind of self explanatory, 304 00:29:56.559 --> 00:30:00.920 but maybe got something more specific. And then tell us you would say a 305 00:30:00.920 --> 00:30:06.160 biblical world view? Sure, yeah, everybody has a worldview. You need 306 00:30:06.200 --> 00:30:11.680 one to get through the day because you make hundreds and hundreds of decisions every 307 00:30:11.759 --> 00:30:17.039 day. You need a basis on which to make those decisions. And that's 308 00:30:17.079 --> 00:30:23.640 what your worldview is. It's the intellectual, emotional, and spiritual filter through 309 00:30:23.680 --> 00:30:30.680 which you make every choice that you make. It's the basis on which you 310 00:30:30.759 --> 00:30:37.039 make the decisions. So it's based on your core beliefs about the world, 311 00:30:37.160 --> 00:30:44.480 about yourself, about life, and all of your behaviors come from those beliefs. 312 00:30:44.519 --> 00:30:49.359 And so the idea here is you do what you believe. So I 313 00:30:49.440 --> 00:30:52.559 do research, and a lot of people tell me they believe a lot of 314 00:30:52.599 --> 00:30:57.200 things. But I've learned that I can't just take that at face value. 315 00:30:57.799 --> 00:31:03.079 If you tell me you believe something, then I have to find some behavioral 316 00:31:03.119 --> 00:31:07.279 evidence that you actually do believe that, because a lot of people say they 317 00:31:07.319 --> 00:31:11.920 believe a lot of things, but there's no evidence that that's the truth. 318 00:31:11.720 --> 00:31:18.640 You know, they act in contrast to what they say they believe. So 319 00:31:18.799 --> 00:31:22.240 your worldview is the conjunction of those two things, what you say you believe 320 00:31:22.759 --> 00:31:27.039 and what you do to prove that you believe it. And so there are 321 00:31:27.079 --> 00:31:32.680 dozens of worldviews that people can choose from. One of those is what we 322 00:31:32.799 --> 00:31:37.559 call the biblical worldview. Now, the biblical worldview is based on Biblical principles 323 00:31:37.599 --> 00:31:42.359 and precepts, those kinds of teachings that we get from Jesus, those kinds 324 00:31:42.400 --> 00:31:48.079 of principles that are laid out for us in the scriptures. And when I 325 00:31:48.160 --> 00:31:52.160 say only four percent of adults have a biblical worldview, that means that only 326 00:31:52.279 --> 00:32:00.400 four percent of adults consistently believe what the Bible teaches and then display that in 327 00:32:00.480 --> 00:32:05.319 their lifestyle. Why does that matter from a Christian point of view? It 328 00:32:05.400 --> 00:32:09.319 matters because we've been called to be disciples of Jesus, and what that means 329 00:32:09.359 --> 00:32:15.720 is that we're going to be christ Like. You demonstrate your Christ's likeness through 330 00:32:15.720 --> 00:32:21.880 your behavior, but you've got to have Biblical beliefs in order to have those 331 00:32:21.920 --> 00:32:25.680 behaviors. So that's how all those things fit together. What we find is 332 00:32:25.680 --> 00:32:32.200 that about ninety two percent of Americans are syncretists, and what that means is 333 00:32:32.240 --> 00:32:38.680 that we've chosen not a single worldview, whether it's the Biblical worldview, postmodern 334 00:32:38.720 --> 00:32:45.400 theire'sm Eastern mysticism, nihilism. You know, there are many different world views 335 00:32:45.400 --> 00:32:51.240 to choose from. But what we do as a syncretist is we say, 336 00:32:51.279 --> 00:32:54.039 I don't buy any of those lock stock and barrel. I'm just going to 337 00:32:54.039 --> 00:32:59.759 pick a few things that they believe that I like, they make sense to 338 00:32:59.759 --> 00:33:05.240 me, and I'm going to combine them with a few beliefs from other worldviews 339 00:33:05.279 --> 00:33:08.440 as well. So, in other words, as a syncretist, you'll buy 340 00:33:08.480 --> 00:33:15.720 into postmodernism, you'll buy into secular humanism, You'll buy into Marxism, you'll 341 00:33:15.720 --> 00:33:20.079 buy into Eastern mystism, on and on down the line, taking bits and 342 00:33:20.119 --> 00:33:27.160 pieces from each of those and crafting a customized worldview that makes you happy, 343 00:33:27.400 --> 00:33:30.720 makes you comfortable, and gets you tracks to run on. Yeah, kind 344 00:33:30.720 --> 00:33:35.240 of do it o la carte, right, very much. So, Yeah, 345 00:33:35.279 --> 00:33:38.359 that fits in with all the postmodernism as well. So you were talking 346 00:33:38.400 --> 00:33:43.440 about children and you said they start forming that worldview at what about fifteen months, 347 00:33:43.599 --> 00:33:46.119 just a little bit before Toddler, and then it goes up to thirteen. 348 00:33:46.160 --> 00:33:51.400 That's kind of interesting because so many societies have you know, looked at 349 00:33:51.400 --> 00:33:54.240 thirteen years old as the beginning of manhood or womanhood, you know, Barmitz 350 00:33:54.279 --> 00:33:58.880 for whatever. And that's not just in the Jewish society, it's in many 351 00:33:58.920 --> 00:34:04.480 many societies. At thirteen, it's an interesting age, but we see that 352 00:34:04.559 --> 00:34:07.599 over and over again. Yeah, And of course, over the course of 353 00:34:08.119 --> 00:34:13.239 decades, we've had a lot of political leaders who, as they've been trying 354 00:34:13.280 --> 00:34:16.039 to figure out how can I stay in power for a longer period of time, 355 00:34:16.599 --> 00:34:21.679 have made statements about give me a child until they're seven and all rule 356 00:34:21.679 --> 00:34:23.280 of the world, you know, and give me a young person until they're 357 00:34:23.360 --> 00:34:28.679 nine and they'll be mine for life. You know. So you've had people 358 00:34:28.719 --> 00:34:36.079 from Aristotle on down to Hitler and Stalin and now and Mussolini who have made 359 00:34:36.079 --> 00:34:42.039 those same kind of pronouncements for different purposes, but they've recognized the importance of 360 00:34:42.480 --> 00:34:46.320 childhood. The Catholic Church over the course of centuries has made similar kinds of 361 00:34:46.360 --> 00:34:52.440 pronouncements recognizing that importance. And that's why you have, you know, Catholic 362 00:34:52.679 --> 00:34:59.679 education being such an important thing in the Catholic world. And so we've really 363 00:34:59.719 --> 00:35:01.400 dropped the ball on this. Yeah, I think we've really dropped the ball 364 00:35:01.400 --> 00:35:04.039 on that, you know, train up a child and the way he should 365 00:35:04.039 --> 00:35:07.039 go when he's older and not depart from it. Right, that's you know, 366 00:35:07.440 --> 00:35:10.079 Hitler understood that, Oh, it's that children don't understand that, right, 367 00:35:10.199 --> 00:35:14.280 I mean Christians don't understand that, certainly. And you go back to 368 00:35:14.360 --> 00:35:17.679 the early chapters of the Bible, you go back to Deuteronomy six, and 369 00:35:17.719 --> 00:35:22.719 you've got a classic teaching there to Jewish families about you know what, it's 370 00:35:22.840 --> 00:35:29.519 your responsibility, parents, to take on the education of your children. So 371 00:35:29.719 --> 00:35:31.800 talk to them when you have the opportunity, when you're out on the road, 372 00:35:32.239 --> 00:35:37.679 when you're having dinner, when you're spending free time together. You know, 373 00:35:37.719 --> 00:35:39.679 write these things on your foreheads, you know, post them on your 374 00:35:39.679 --> 00:35:44.559 wrists, put them over your door, post the things that matter. Make 375 00:35:44.599 --> 00:35:47.760 sure that you're always conversing to your children about these And I would say, 376 00:35:47.880 --> 00:35:52.840 yeah, that's certainly something that we in the Christian community in contemporary America have 377 00:35:53.000 --> 00:35:57.360 dropped. Yes, yes, yeah. When we homeschooled our kids, they 378 00:35:57.440 --> 00:36:00.960 required us to create a name for our school. And so I said, 379 00:36:00.960 --> 00:36:02.840 well, let's call it the Parapetus Academy, because we'll do it parapetically. 380 00:36:02.840 --> 00:36:06.519 You know, we'll walk along with them in the way, in the same 381 00:36:06.559 --> 00:36:08.800 way that Jesus would do his disciples, and we'll point out as we're going 382 00:36:08.800 --> 00:36:12.920 through a life with them, the good and the bad of this and that, 383 00:36:12.960 --> 00:36:15.559 and try to put it in a perspective that the understand as Christians. 384 00:36:16.880 --> 00:36:21.159 Yeah, and you know, that's one of the beautiful things about homeschooling is 385 00:36:21.199 --> 00:36:27.559 that you get to build that relationship with your children wherein they come to trust 386 00:36:27.639 --> 00:36:32.320 you, and you can have conversations on such a wide range of activities that 387 00:36:32.440 --> 00:36:39.159 both relate to academic subjects and that don't relate to academic subjects but relate to 388 00:36:39.239 --> 00:36:44.800 real life. And so, as we've done our research over the past couple 389 00:36:44.800 --> 00:36:49.360 of years, in particular, we found that homeschool children are the ones who 390 00:36:49.360 --> 00:36:53.800 are most likely to grow up to have a biblical worldview. And it's precisely 391 00:36:53.880 --> 00:36:59.760 because parents have the luxury, if you will, of that time spent with 392 00:36:59.800 --> 00:37:05.400 their children looking at every aspect of life, not just worrying about addition and 393 00:37:05.440 --> 00:37:09.559 subtraction, but really trying to figure out what are the important life principles that 394 00:37:09.599 --> 00:37:15.599 I can convey to my children, sometimes through an academic subject, sometimes not. 395 00:37:15.079 --> 00:37:20.159 Yes, yes, and they have sacrificed to do that, but it's 396 00:37:20.159 --> 00:37:23.039 that very interaction that they have with the kids that is their true reward. 397 00:37:23.599 --> 00:37:29.000 So it is kind of an interesting way that this works itself out if you've 398 00:37:29.000 --> 00:37:34.800 got your priorities straight. So from fifteen months to thirteen years, they're establishing 399 00:37:34.960 --> 00:37:44.079 their worldview. And then what happens well during the teen years and through maybe 400 00:37:44.119 --> 00:37:46.920 the mid twenties or so, what we find is that it's a period of 401 00:37:46.960 --> 00:37:52.880 time where now that the worldview has been developed, young people are trying to 402 00:37:52.920 --> 00:37:58.800 figure out how to articulate it, how to implement it, how to refine 403 00:37:58.840 --> 00:38:04.000 it so that it work most effectively for them in any given situation. In 404 00:38:04.039 --> 00:38:07.000 the course of that period of time, that fifteen year period or so, 405 00:38:07.760 --> 00:38:15.840 they're also sometimes changing some of their worldview, beliefs, and behaviors based on 406 00:38:15.000 --> 00:38:19.960 the ways that they're trying to articulate and implement it. But then what we 407 00:38:20.039 --> 00:38:27.119 find is from the late twenties on through sometime in the sixties, typically people 408 00:38:27.559 --> 00:38:34.440 just accept what they've developed during those earlier years and they actually become evangelists. 409 00:38:35.119 --> 00:38:38.519 Most Americans, though, don't evangelize for Jesus. They evangelize for themselves. 410 00:38:39.000 --> 00:38:44.000 What they're trying to do is to get other people to buy into their beliefs 411 00:38:44.039 --> 00:38:50.960 and behaviors. Because if somebody else embraces your worldviewer elements of it, you 412 00:38:51.039 --> 00:38:55.960 feel better about yourself. You feel like you've proven that you got it right. 413 00:38:57.800 --> 00:39:00.360 And then when we get into our mental life eight sixties, that then 414 00:39:00.440 --> 00:39:06.679 becomes the final worldview era of our life, when we sit back and examine 415 00:39:06.719 --> 00:39:08.920 how we did and we asked the question, gee, did we get it 416 00:39:09.039 --> 00:39:14.559 right? Could we have done it better? And at that stage most of 417 00:39:14.639 --> 00:39:19.480 us I'm in that stage. Now, you know, we're grandparents or some 418 00:39:19.559 --> 00:39:22.760 of my you know peers are great grandparents, and so we're thinking about, 419 00:39:22.800 --> 00:39:29.599 okay, with our grandchildren and great grandchildren, should we be teaching and preaching 420 00:39:29.639 --> 00:39:34.800 and modeling something different than we had earlier in our life because now we can 421 00:39:34.840 --> 00:39:37.639 see, yeah, we kind of blew it in this aspect of our worldview. 422 00:39:38.079 --> 00:39:42.280 We still have a chance to get it right and to pass that on. 423 00:39:42.800 --> 00:39:45.400 Yeah, that's a very interesting perspective. There's four stages there. And 424 00:39:45.440 --> 00:39:49.159 now your newest book, and you've written about fifty books at your newest one, 425 00:39:49.199 --> 00:39:53.480 which just came out Labor Day, is raising spiritual Champions, nurturing your 426 00:39:53.559 --> 00:39:59.280 child's heart, mind, and spirit. Tell us a little bit about the 427 00:39:59.320 --> 00:40:05.360 book and and the message that it's giving people in terms of how do you 428 00:40:05.440 --> 00:40:08.119 do this? Everybody's looking for how to book, but a bigger you know, 429 00:40:08.159 --> 00:40:12.440 a larger perspective, I'm sure is what's involved in It's not just a 430 00:40:12.440 --> 00:40:15.360 step by step program. But tell us little bit about that book. Well, 431 00:40:15.599 --> 00:40:20.880 the book is based on seven original research projects that we did across the 432 00:40:20.960 --> 00:40:28.480 nation trying to understand parents and churches and adolescents and teenagers. We even did 433 00:40:28.519 --> 00:40:32.559 a study, a content analysis study of the most popular media that children are 434 00:40:32.639 --> 00:40:39.079 exposed to. The television programs they watch consistently, some of the streaming programs 435 00:40:39.119 --> 00:40:45.239 they consistently are exposed to, those types of things. What I was trying 436 00:40:45.280 --> 00:40:49.360 to do in the book was to give us an understanding of what's happening in 437 00:40:49.440 --> 00:40:54.440 parenting today. What does the Bible exhort us to do as parents, and 438 00:40:54.800 --> 00:41:01.199 how can we get closer to that Biblical model of parenting given the existing culture 439 00:41:01.679 --> 00:41:07.400 in which we're being called to raise our children. So it's kind of a 440 00:41:07.480 --> 00:41:13.400 full orbed approach to understanding all this why because as parents we have the primary 441 00:41:13.440 --> 00:41:16.920 responsibility to raise up our children, and how are we supposed to raise them? 442 00:41:16.920 --> 00:41:22.159 We're supposed to help them to become disciples of Jesus Christ. So the 443 00:41:22.199 --> 00:41:27.000 book is geared towards helping parents understand what does it mean to be a disciple? 444 00:41:27.519 --> 00:41:30.119 How do you disciple a young person? How do we know if we're 445 00:41:30.159 --> 00:41:35.800 doing that well? What are churches that are doing it well doing? Because 446 00:41:35.840 --> 00:41:37.920 I want to be part of that kind of church. Most churches are not 447 00:41:38.039 --> 00:41:42.199 doing it well, as it turns out, but we found out that there 448 00:41:42.239 --> 00:41:46.079 are some that are doing it properly, inappropriately and effectively. What kind of 449 00:41:46.119 --> 00:41:51.039 church should you look for there? And you know, ultimately, how do 450 00:41:51.119 --> 00:41:54.239 you know when you're hitting the ball out of the park that's great? Give 451 00:41:54.320 --> 00:42:00.480 us an example of something that you see that is in contrast to what is 452 00:42:00.480 --> 00:42:06.199 a good practice, a biblical practice versus what is a common practice with parenting? 453 00:42:07.360 --> 00:42:14.519 Well, a common parenting practice in America today? I characterize as outsourcing. 454 00:42:15.920 --> 00:42:19.760 And as I did the research, I discovered it's not with mal and 455 00:42:19.880 --> 00:42:22.800 ten that parents are throwing up their hands and saying I don't have the time 456 00:42:22.840 --> 00:42:27.519 and I don't have the expertise to do this. It's because they love their 457 00:42:27.639 --> 00:42:30.800 children so much that they're saying I don't have the time, and I don't 458 00:42:30.840 --> 00:42:35.280 have the expertise, So let me do the best thing I can for them, 459 00:42:35.679 --> 00:42:39.239 which is higher experts that I want to bring in and let them raise 460 00:42:39.320 --> 00:42:44.079 my child for me. And so what we do is we bring in experts 461 00:42:44.079 --> 00:42:49.519 in education, tutors, we bring in experts in athletics, coaches, we 462 00:42:49.559 --> 00:42:54.880 bring in experts and spirituality, children's pastors, we bring in experts in various 463 00:42:54.880 --> 00:43:00.039 hobbies and extra curricular activities. You know, all of these experts that we 464 00:43:00.320 --> 00:43:07.159 hire to do what we feel I'm really not sufficiently first to know how to 465 00:43:07.159 --> 00:43:09.920 do it, and I'm working hard to make the money to hire these people. 466 00:43:10.199 --> 00:43:14.280 So i don't have the time to do it. And I've got other 467 00:43:14.480 --> 00:43:20.559 interests than my children that I feel I need to engage in for some kind 468 00:43:20.559 --> 00:43:23.920 of self care, you know, get myself a break, lower my anxiety 469 00:43:24.039 --> 00:43:28.800 levels. That's why I don't have the time. So that's the way that 470 00:43:28.880 --> 00:43:32.159 parents are approaching it now. The biblical model is actually quite different. The 471 00:43:32.159 --> 00:43:38.639 Biblical model says, when you have children under the age of thirteen, this 472 00:43:38.840 --> 00:43:45.000 is a season of sacrifice for you. So get used to maybe not working 473 00:43:45.400 --> 00:43:51.079 as many hours, get used to not doing everything you can to get the 474 00:43:51.079 --> 00:43:54.440 promotion, to get the raise, you know, to start your own company, 475 00:43:54.480 --> 00:43:58.480 to do whatever the things that are going to take the most time and 476 00:43:58.599 --> 00:44:02.400 energy and effort on your part. This is the time where you put most 477 00:44:02.599 --> 00:44:08.920 of your energy and effort and expertise into raising up your child to be a 478 00:44:09.039 --> 00:44:15.159 follower of Jesus. And so your schedule is going to look very different, 479 00:44:15.599 --> 00:44:20.280 and in fact, what you do during the day is going to look different. 480 00:44:21.239 --> 00:44:27.159 Number One, you've got to have a plan for how you spiritually develop 481 00:44:27.199 --> 00:44:34.800 your child. If that's your chief goal during these years, don't go about 482 00:44:34.840 --> 00:44:38.840 it willy nilly, just haphazardly hoping that something good is going to happen with 483 00:44:38.920 --> 00:44:44.079 their faith. And maybe if you just bring them to church services often enough 484 00:44:44.119 --> 00:44:46.760 and church events, it's all going to work. It's not the church's job, 485 00:44:46.960 --> 00:44:52.679 it's your job. The church is there to support you as you do 486 00:44:52.760 --> 00:44:54.079 that, and that's the kind of church, by the way, that you 487 00:44:54.119 --> 00:44:59.000 need to be looking for. You talk more about that, but it's on 488 00:44:59.119 --> 00:45:01.920 your shoulder to be doing that task, and so you've got to have a 489 00:45:02.000 --> 00:45:08.079 plan. It doesn't happen by default. People do not become disciples of Jesus 490 00:45:08.119 --> 00:45:15.159 by accident, and with your children during those first thirteen years. The foundations 491 00:45:15.159 --> 00:45:19.320 that you put in place or don't put in place, are what's going to 492 00:45:20.599 --> 00:45:25.480 determine to the largest extent whether or not they ever become disciples of Christ. 493 00:45:25.760 --> 00:45:30.840 Yeah, that's very true. You know, when I have talked to for 494 00:45:30.880 --> 00:45:37.000 a long time to people about homeschooling, I frequently what I hear from them 495 00:45:37.039 --> 00:45:38.519 is, I just don't feel qualified enough, just as what you're talking about. 496 00:45:38.519 --> 00:45:42.320 They're trying to outsource this to somebody else that they feel is going to 497 00:45:42.320 --> 00:45:44.800 do a better job with math or this. And of course, you know 498 00:45:44.840 --> 00:45:49.880 you can pull in there's so many experts that are available but have classes on 499 00:45:49.960 --> 00:45:52.559 this that you can pull that in and they can do that, or you 500 00:45:52.599 --> 00:45:54.800 can set up some kind of a co op thing or something like that. 501 00:45:54.920 --> 00:46:00.960 But it really is born out of this feeling that they're not up to the 502 00:46:00.000 --> 00:46:02.760 task. And we would always tell people, you only got to keep a 503 00:46:02.760 --> 00:46:06.679 couple of steps ahead of this kid, even if you didn't do well in 504 00:46:06.719 --> 00:46:08.880 school, you just got to keep a couple of lessons ahead of them, 505 00:46:09.079 --> 00:46:13.039 and you might learn some stuff that you never learned in school because you didn't 506 00:46:13.079 --> 00:46:16.480 like school, and you know, but the key thing is from a Christian 507 00:46:16.480 --> 00:46:21.719 perspective, is that God gave you these kids, and so he also gave 508 00:46:21.760 --> 00:46:25.719 you the ability to do what is necessary. And I think that's the key 509 00:46:25.760 --> 00:46:30.559 thing. And it's that relationship that is there that is lost. As you 510 00:46:30.639 --> 00:46:32.920 point out, that's a great term outsourcing it to other people because you think 511 00:46:32.960 --> 00:46:37.679 other people can do a better job of this or that, and then you 512 00:46:37.719 --> 00:46:40.880 miss that time with a kid. You spend all your time doing shuffling them 513 00:46:40.920 --> 00:46:45.000 from one of these activities, from one expert to another, and you know, 514 00:46:45.039 --> 00:46:49.920 you just become kind of a soccer mom type of facilitator or chauffeur. 515 00:46:50.079 --> 00:46:52.960 You don't really ever have that time with them. I've seen that as well 516 00:46:53.199 --> 00:46:57.440 as I've been growing up. That is an excellent way to describe it, 517 00:46:57.480 --> 00:47:00.760 outsourcing. I think tell us a bit. I'm sorry, go ahead, 518 00:47:00.440 --> 00:47:04.880 you know, and just to tag onto that one of the great dangers of 519 00:47:05.039 --> 00:47:10.760 outsourcing is that often those people are introducing different worldview perspectives to your children than 520 00:47:10.800 --> 00:47:15.639 you want them to have. So they might be a great soccer coach, 521 00:47:15.360 --> 00:47:22.239 but there may be things about anger and about treating other people and thoughts about 522 00:47:22.760 --> 00:47:24.800 money, you know, growing up to be a professional soccer. But I 523 00:47:24.840 --> 00:47:30.679 mean all these other ideas that are being introduced to your children that are ones 524 00:47:30.800 --> 00:47:37.199 that the Bible might not agree with. And so when you hand your children 525 00:47:37.280 --> 00:47:43.199 over to these other authority figures, you're handing over your authority at the same 526 00:47:43.320 --> 00:47:45.639 time. And that's a great danger. Yes, that is really true. 527 00:47:45.719 --> 00:47:51.079 Yeah you want it. That's how we get the the Oli Kart syncretism right 528 00:47:51.159 --> 00:47:54.199 exactly, with all these different forces that are there. You were talking about 529 00:47:54.280 --> 00:47:58.679 church, and so you know what, what kind of church is a good 530 00:47:58.719 --> 00:48:01.400 church that's going to support the parents. So many times I look at churches 531 00:48:01.599 --> 00:48:07.480 and they have so many activities that they've got set up. And I often 532 00:48:07.599 --> 00:48:14.239 think about a cruise that I went on with our family. It was Karen's 533 00:48:14.280 --> 00:48:15.719 parents fiftieth anniversary, and want to take everybody on a cruise. It was 534 00:48:15.719 --> 00:48:20.480 a Disney cruise and we get on there and yeah, this is a family 535 00:48:20.519 --> 00:48:22.559 cruise. So it's like, okay, what activities do you have for the 536 00:48:22.559 --> 00:48:24.239 family. Well, we'll put a bracelet on the kids and we'll take them 537 00:48:24.280 --> 00:48:28.039 over here, and we got all kinds of stuff and then you know, 538 00:48:28.079 --> 00:48:29.760 you can do these things, and it's like, no, no, what 539 00:48:29.760 --> 00:48:31.000 do you have for us to do together? They didn't have anything for us 540 00:48:31.000 --> 00:48:34.360 to do together. They said, well, nobody has asked us about that 541 00:48:34.400 --> 00:48:37.960 before. Yeah, you take this family cruise and you could outsourge your kids 542 00:48:38.000 --> 00:48:42.400 over there to be entertained and babysit and whatever, and then you could go 543 00:48:42.440 --> 00:48:44.679 through these other activities. And it's like, no, we don't want to 544 00:48:44.719 --> 00:48:47.199 do that, but it tells it. And so when I look at churches, 545 00:48:47.239 --> 00:48:52.679 many times I see that type of thing happening in the churches. What 546 00:48:52.800 --> 00:48:55.639 is the kind of church that is most effective at supporting parents and their task. 547 00:48:58.119 --> 00:49:00.199 Yeah, one of the things that I try to get Christian parents to 548 00:49:00.199 --> 00:49:02.840 do, or any parents really if they're going to engage with the church, 549 00:49:04.519 --> 00:49:07.800 is to recognize, you know what, the single most important ministry in the 550 00:49:07.960 --> 00:49:12.760 entire church is the ministry to children. Because if what we're there to do 551 00:49:13.199 --> 00:49:19.440 is to build up somebody's faith, develop that faith, reinforce that faith, 552 00:49:20.000 --> 00:49:24.760 release that faith into the world, all of the foundations for that happened before 553 00:49:24.800 --> 00:49:30.639 the age of thirteen, and so what's going on in the children's ministry is 554 00:49:30.679 --> 00:49:34.440 the single most important ministry in the church. So when you go to a 555 00:49:34.559 --> 00:49:37.559 church, don't go they're saying, Gee, I hope they make me happy, 556 00:49:37.199 --> 00:49:40.320 you know. I mean, frankly, what our research has found for 557 00:49:40.320 --> 00:49:45.760 the last forty years is that adults don't change. You know, So you're 558 00:49:45.800 --> 00:49:47.519 going to go in believe in what you believe, you're going to come out 559 00:49:47.559 --> 00:49:52.920 pretty much believe in the same thing. We did a longitudinal study track people 560 00:49:52.960 --> 00:49:59.760 over thirty plus years and found that the worldview adults doesn't change. Most Americans 561 00:49:59.800 --> 00:50:04.719 do with the same worldview that they had at the age of thirteen. And 562 00:50:04.800 --> 00:50:07.119 so, you know, let's look at that children's ministry. What do you 563 00:50:07.119 --> 00:50:10.719 want to look at? Number one, take a look at the children's pastor. 564 00:50:12.719 --> 00:50:15.079 One of the pieces of research that we did for this book was with 565 00:50:15.239 --> 00:50:21.480 pastors across the country. What we discovered is that seven out of every eight 566 00:50:21.639 --> 00:50:28.239 children's pastors do not have a biblical worldview. You can't get what you don't 567 00:50:28.239 --> 00:50:32.960 have. And so when children are going to seven out of eight children's ministries, 568 00:50:34.519 --> 00:50:38.119 they're not going to be taught biblical truth. They're going to be taught 569 00:50:38.199 --> 00:50:43.760 stuff. What that satisfies the needs of the ministry? What are the needs 570 00:50:43.760 --> 00:50:45.880 of that ministry. Well, parents are saying, you know what, I 571 00:50:45.920 --> 00:50:50.920 want my child to be safe, I want my child to be happy. 572 00:50:51.480 --> 00:50:54.400 I want my child to be around some good kids, and I want them 573 00:50:54.400 --> 00:50:59.679 to be exposed to some kind of religious teaching. And that's about as far 574 00:50:59.719 --> 00:51:02.599 as it goes. You know. We know when we talk with senior pastors 575 00:51:02.639 --> 00:51:07.119 across the country, again a majority of whom do not have a biblical worldview, 576 00:51:07.599 --> 00:51:10.760 We ask them, how do you know if your church is healthy and 577 00:51:10.800 --> 00:51:15.400 successful? They said, Oh, we measure five things. How many people 578 00:51:15.519 --> 00:51:17.800 show up, how much money's raised, how many programs we offer, how 579 00:51:17.800 --> 00:51:22.880 many staff people we get to hire, how much square footage we've built out. 580 00:51:22.079 --> 00:51:24.519 Look, I'm a measurement guy, so I'm glad they're measuring something. 581 00:51:24.519 --> 00:51:28.920 But as a measurement guy, I know you get what you measure. Yeah, 582 00:51:29.280 --> 00:51:32.239 So when those are your measures, what you're going to get is a 583 00:51:32.280 --> 00:51:38.159 megachurch, a place that's well marketed. But keep in mind that Jesus didn't 584 00:51:38.199 --> 00:51:43.280 die for any of those five things, So those shouldn't be the key measures 585 00:51:43.320 --> 00:51:46.480 that we're looking at. So when you're looking for a children's ministry, look 586 00:51:46.559 --> 00:51:52.159 for this stuff that matters to Jesus, because if it matters to Jesus and 587 00:51:52.239 --> 00:51:55.480 it matters to the Church, that's what they're going to be sharing with your 588 00:51:55.559 --> 00:52:02.119 child. Oh that's great advice. So you know, it's time with the 589 00:52:02.199 --> 00:52:06.920 kids. There is no there is no substitute, you know, quantity with 590 00:52:07.000 --> 00:52:10.280 the kids. There's no substitute in terms of quality, in terms of outsourcing 591 00:52:10.320 --> 00:52:15.119 the kids. And it's very important that you understand who is going to be 592 00:52:15.159 --> 00:52:20.679 holding their heart at various times, right, and that that really is the 593 00:52:20.760 --> 00:52:22.000 key thing. I think people need to think of it that way. You 594 00:52:22.000 --> 00:52:27.039 know, if you think of somebody holding something as fragile as a heart, 595 00:52:27.599 --> 00:52:31.119 and you don't realize that that is really what is happening at these very tender 596 00:52:31.159 --> 00:52:37.599 ages, is very very malleable. And it's kind of interesting that you point 597 00:52:37.599 --> 00:52:40.960 out that the worldview of adults really doesn't change. Of course, we were 598 00:52:40.960 --> 00:52:45.280 told that, you know, I believe it because in the Bible, but 599 00:52:45.599 --> 00:52:50.920 your research has borne that out. So it is interesting because we do have 600 00:52:51.039 --> 00:52:55.760 people who've had some exceptions to that. I guess that would be the exceptions 601 00:52:55.760 --> 00:53:01.280 that have had a very difficult upbringing, but God has stepped into their life 602 00:53:01.800 --> 00:53:07.840 and worked in a way to radically change them. Right, But that's really 603 00:53:07.840 --> 00:53:10.039 the exception, would you say? It is the exception. And one of 604 00:53:10.119 --> 00:53:14.880 the interesting things I did, actually the biggest study I've ever done, was 605 00:53:14.920 --> 00:53:20.440 on that very thing. And what I found is that there are the way 606 00:53:20.480 --> 00:53:24.440 that people change is God allows them to go through a crisis. You know, 607 00:53:24.480 --> 00:53:28.559 we tend to think of a crisis as something to avoid at all costs. 608 00:53:28.599 --> 00:53:32.159 It's painful, we don't want to endure it. And yet God uses 609 00:53:32.480 --> 00:53:39.079 crisis to get our attention and to shake us up enough to reconsider some of 610 00:53:39.119 --> 00:53:45.559 the basic foundations of our worldview. And what I discovered is that there tend 611 00:53:45.559 --> 00:53:52.280 to be six different crises that are most common that are effective at shaking us 612 00:53:52.360 --> 00:53:55.639 up enough that yes, we can move more and more toward having a biblical 613 00:53:55.679 --> 00:54:01.119 worldview. You know, an ugly divorce, that the painful death of someone 614 00:54:01.159 --> 00:54:07.440 who is close to you that you loved, contracting or a debilitating illness or 615 00:54:07.480 --> 00:54:13.159 having some kind of debilitating injury, losing all of your possessions, and a 616 00:54:13.280 --> 00:54:20.719 natural disaster, spending time in prison, and going through personal bankruptcy. Those 617 00:54:20.840 --> 00:54:27.360 six things represent a majority of the crises that have enabled people to get to 618 00:54:27.440 --> 00:54:32.039 a place where God could continue the transformational process in their life, and they 619 00:54:32.119 --> 00:54:39.039 moved away from a secular mindset and heartset more toward a biblical mindset. So 620 00:54:39.559 --> 00:54:44.480 yeah, it's possible, you know. And that's the hope that parents need 621 00:54:44.599 --> 00:54:47.679 who blew it with their young kids, you know, because it's never over. 622 00:54:47.880 --> 00:54:51.480 If you're just hearing this and you're saying, oh my gosh, my 623 00:54:51.960 --> 00:54:54.280 child is fourteen, sixteen, and eighteen, you know, what do I 624 00:54:54.320 --> 00:54:58.000 do now? It's like, okay, don't give up hope. By the 625 00:54:58.679 --> 00:55:04.280 keep in mind that the papleship is a relationship. It's a relationship with Jesus 626 00:55:04.280 --> 00:55:07.480 first, and it's a relationship with another disciple, somebody who wants to bring 627 00:55:07.519 --> 00:55:13.239 you into that relationship with Christ. So it's all about relationship. What do 628 00:55:13.280 --> 00:55:16.119 you do with that relationship? You invite that other person on the journey with 629 00:55:16.280 --> 00:55:20.800 you. It's not somewhere you give them homework, and Simon saying, go 630 00:55:20.840 --> 00:55:23.360 and learn these verses, go and figure out how to make this reel in 631 00:55:23.400 --> 00:55:28.280 your life. Or so like, hey, let's check this out. Let's 632 00:55:28.320 --> 00:55:31.840 see how this works together. You know, we'll read the passages, we'll 633 00:55:31.880 --> 00:55:37.480 talk about the passages we'll go and we'll we'll exhibit the passages in our lives. 634 00:55:38.320 --> 00:55:42.559 That's how discipleship works. How do we know that because that's what Jesus 635 00:55:42.599 --> 00:55:45.280 did. Yes, yes, well that really is true. And you know 636 00:55:45.280 --> 00:55:49.519 when you're talking about that through crisis and through pain, that that's what C. 637 00:55:49.639 --> 00:55:52.239 S. Lewis said. You know, God speaks to us through our 638 00:55:52.280 --> 00:55:55.400 pain. And actually I think you use the analogy of you know, the 639 00:55:55.400 --> 00:56:00.880 blows of a sculptor changing us in our life. Wants to go through that. 640 00:56:00.119 --> 00:56:05.199 But it is a really loving process. And I think we go back 641 00:56:05.239 --> 00:56:08.679 and we look at the crises in our lives as I'm about your age, 642 00:56:08.800 --> 00:56:13.960 and we we're in the review stage here, and we look at the most 643 00:56:13.960 --> 00:56:17.159 difficult times in our life. That was the time when God spoke to us 644 00:56:17.199 --> 00:56:22.280 and moved us in a different direction. Yeah, that is true. And 645 00:56:22.920 --> 00:56:27.880 our tendency is to try to restore everything to quote unquote normal. Yeah, 646 00:56:28.119 --> 00:56:30.960 that's right. Well, often the reason that we're having the crisis is because 647 00:56:31.000 --> 00:56:37.000 normal ain't working for us to be willing to say, Okay, this might 648 00:56:37.079 --> 00:56:42.599 be a great opportunity for me to rethink this a little bit. That's that's 649 00:56:42.639 --> 00:56:45.800 the direction God may be pushing us. That's true. And when I look 650 00:56:45.800 --> 00:56:49.760 at the some of the discussion points here about your book, embrace an eternal 651 00:56:49.800 --> 00:56:53.480 perspective, properly define what a successful life is. That's one of the key 652 00:56:53.519 --> 00:56:57.000 things. You know. If God is going to you know, as you 653 00:56:57.039 --> 00:56:59.639 point out, if the normal is not working for you, maybe He's got 654 00:56:59.639 --> 00:57:02.199 a new nor normal for you. It's going to change what you really want 655 00:57:02.440 --> 00:57:08.440 and how you define a success is not just simply being comfortable maybe as something 656 00:57:08.480 --> 00:57:13.400 else isn't it? It is? And you know, for those parents who 657 00:57:13.440 --> 00:57:15.440 are trying to get a handle on okay, okay, but where do I 658 00:57:15.519 --> 00:57:20.000 start with all of this? I feel overwhelmed. I'm not a thee elotion. 659 00:57:20.639 --> 00:57:24.159 I don't know where to start. One of the greatest discoveries I feel 660 00:57:24.159 --> 00:57:27.800 that I've ever made out of the data, you know, I feel like 661 00:57:27.880 --> 00:57:31.840 Isaac Newton. Here is a really late one that is like one or two 662 00:57:31.880 --> 00:57:36.000 in the morning. I'm playing with data. And one of the things I 663 00:57:36.119 --> 00:57:43.320 found is there are seven particular beliefs that fit together and can serve as a 664 00:57:43.360 --> 00:57:49.840 great Biblical worldview foundation. What the data showed is if you embrace all seven 665 00:57:49.920 --> 00:57:53.719 of these very simple biblical perspectives, and you try to carry them out in 666 00:57:53.719 --> 00:57:59.440 your life, you'll have an eighty three percent probability of going on to develop 667 00:57:59.760 --> 00:58:06.119 a complete biblical worldview. If you reject any one, one or more of 668 00:58:06.159 --> 00:58:10.400 these seven I'm calling them the cornerstones of the biblical worldview. If you reject 669 00:58:10.519 --> 00:58:15.280 one or more of the cornerstones, then you've got only a two percent probability, 670 00:58:15.480 --> 00:58:21.079 wow, of a biblical worldview. That's how important these seven elements are. 671 00:58:21.760 --> 00:58:25.760 And you know when people hear them, you know, devoted Christians laugh, 672 00:58:27.239 --> 00:58:30.719 Come on, that's Sunday School one on one. Yeah, but apparently 673 00:58:30.760 --> 00:58:34.159 most people didn't pay attention during Sunday School one on one. That's why he's 674 00:58:34.159 --> 00:58:37.559 turned it fifteen months. That's right. Tell the real quickly what they are. 675 00:58:37.719 --> 00:58:40.360 I'm dying enough. Yeah. I mean. Number one is you not 676 00:58:40.400 --> 00:58:45.199 only believe that God exists, but you know that in terms of his nature 677 00:58:45.239 --> 00:58:49.400 and character, he's all, all knowing, all loving, you know, 678 00:58:49.559 --> 00:58:53.400 all powerful, he's perfect, He's just He wants to be involved in your 679 00:58:53.519 --> 00:58:58.360 life because he created you, because he wants to love you. He wants 680 00:58:58.400 --> 00:59:01.400 that relationship. He knowing, there's that kind of God who's perfect and just, 681 00:59:01.559 --> 00:59:07.039 holy and so forth. That's great. But cornerstone number two but recognize 682 00:59:07.039 --> 00:59:10.679 that we're born as sinners. We sin throughout our lives. We're born into 683 00:59:10.719 --> 00:59:17.400 that approach, and every choice we make has consequences, and our sins have 684 00:59:17.559 --> 00:59:25.079 eternal consequences. And so cornerstone number three is recognizing that the only real antidote 685 00:59:25.679 --> 00:59:30.719 to that consequence, the negative consequence of our sins, is Jesus Christ. 686 00:59:31.400 --> 00:59:37.119 So what we can do is acknowledge that we're sinners, you know, own 687 00:59:37.239 --> 00:59:39.199 up to it, fess up to it, ask him to forgive us for 688 00:59:39.239 --> 00:59:45.119 our sins, and most importantly, truly repent, genuinely repent, which means 689 00:59:45.159 --> 00:59:47.480 that not just I'm saying, yeah, give me, you know, eternal 690 00:59:47.519 --> 00:59:53.880 fire insurance, but it's saying, I really feel remorse over the fact that 691 00:59:54.280 --> 00:59:59.320 these choices of mine, these sins, break God's heart. I don't want 692 00:59:59.360 --> 01:00:02.360 to do that more so, God give me the strength to fight back the 693 01:00:02.400 --> 01:00:09.079 temptation to keep sinning. Cornerstone number four is saying that you know what we 694 01:00:09.320 --> 01:00:14.840 know what those sins are because God gave us his word, He gave us 695 01:00:14.880 --> 01:00:19.800 principles for life. So he identifies sins, He identifies the right way to 696 01:00:19.840 --> 01:00:25.320 live, He identifies what gives him and us joy. And cornerstone number five 697 01:00:25.960 --> 01:00:29.840 is saying that, and the Bible, in the course of doing so, 698 01:00:30.719 --> 01:00:36.960 gives us absolute moral truths. And so it's not based on our life conditions. 699 01:00:36.960 --> 01:00:39.039 It's not based on our feelings, it's not based on our situation, 700 01:00:39.599 --> 01:00:45.239 it's not based on what's most popular or most common. God has given us 701 01:00:45.400 --> 01:00:50.639 absolute moral truths, and when we reject those, we will reap the consequences 702 01:00:50.679 --> 01:00:55.679 of what we've sown through that rejection. Cornerstone number six goes to what you 703 01:00:55.719 --> 01:01:01.760 were saying, recognizing what success life is, and the Bible tells us that. 704 01:01:01.840 --> 01:01:07.280 God makes it very clear that success is not about money. It's not 705 01:01:07.320 --> 01:01:09.840 about cars, it's not about the trophy, spouse, you know, any 706 01:01:09.880 --> 01:01:14.719 of that kind of stuff, fame, et cetera. It's simply about being 707 01:01:14.800 --> 01:01:21.440 consistently obedient to God. You can be a homeless person wearing rags, not 708 01:01:21.599 --> 01:01:25.079 knowing if you're going to get another meal, but if you're consistently obedient to 709 01:01:25.119 --> 01:01:30.079 God, you are a success in life, not in the world's eyes, 710 01:01:30.239 --> 01:01:35.320 but in God's eyes. And then the final one is understanding that when God 711 01:01:35.440 --> 01:01:37.480 created you, he loved you, and he gave you a purpose for life, 712 01:01:38.079 --> 01:01:43.960 and that universal purpose that all of us share. There's a unique purpose 713 01:01:44.000 --> 01:01:47.079 he'll give to each of those who are following Jesus, but that universal purpose 714 01:01:47.119 --> 01:01:51.599 each of us has is very simply to know, love and serve God with 715 01:01:51.679 --> 01:01:54.920 all our heartlind, strength, and soul. So when you put these seven 716 01:01:55.039 --> 01:02:00.599 things together, it completely changes your understanding of how life works, who you 717 01:02:00.679 --> 01:02:06.360 are, why you're here, how to live, how to gauge whether or 718 01:02:06.400 --> 01:02:09.920 not your life is making the difference that God wants it to make. And 719 01:02:10.960 --> 01:02:16.000 yet those seven things are very easy for us as parents to wrap our arms 720 01:02:16.039 --> 01:02:21.599 around and to be able to share those with our children and to go on 721 01:02:21.639 --> 01:02:25.440 a journey with our children pursuing those seven things. And as you were alluding 722 01:02:25.440 --> 01:02:29.159 to, you know earlier, the way I say it to parents is, 723 01:02:29.159 --> 01:02:31.119 look, you don't have to be a theologian. You only have to be 724 01:02:31.280 --> 01:02:35.840 ten seconds ahead of your kids. And if you are, this is going 725 01:02:35.920 --> 01:02:37.639 to work. It's going to work. Great. Invite them on the journey 726 01:02:37.679 --> 01:02:40.199 with you. That's right, Yeah, yeah, If you can outthink that 727 01:02:40.360 --> 01:02:45.079 fifteen month old, say a few steps out of them. You got it 728 01:02:45.119 --> 01:02:50.079 made and God will give you what you need to do that. You know, 729 01:02:50.119 --> 01:02:53.199 He always does equip us for the things that He assigns to us. 730 01:02:53.239 --> 01:02:57.239 And that's that's the key thing, stepping out in faith. And we've had 731 01:02:57.280 --> 01:02:59.639 a lot of people have to do that over the last couple of years when 732 01:02:59.639 --> 01:03:04.920 they were confronted with things in their own life that we're going to be shut 733 01:03:04.960 --> 01:03:08.079 off to them if they didn't violate their conscience. And so I think that 734 01:03:08.480 --> 01:03:14.280 may have been a difficult time of training for many people in our society. 735 01:03:14.679 --> 01:03:17.239 And so that makes me very optimistic about the future because we've had a lot 736 01:03:17.280 --> 01:03:23.119 of people who have been under the sculptor's chisel over the last few years and 737 01:03:23.599 --> 01:03:29.079 came through from the other side and to this new normal. They've got a 738 01:03:29.239 --> 01:03:31.880 very different perspective after having gone through that. Well, that's certainly a sage 739 01:03:31.920 --> 01:03:37.400 advice and it looks like an excellent book. Again, the book is you 740 01:03:37.519 --> 01:03:43.119 pull the book up raising spiritual Champions, nurturing your child's heart, mind, 741 01:03:43.239 --> 01:03:46.079 and spirit, and you can find that at I guess the best place Amazon, 742 01:03:46.119 --> 01:03:49.079 Is that the best place to find that, or do you sell it 743 01:03:49.119 --> 01:03:52.880 directly? It is Yeah, and we've got it both in paperback and digital 744 01:03:52.000 --> 01:03:57.440 versions, whichever you prefer. It's available. That's great, and how can 745 01:03:57.480 --> 01:04:00.639 people keep up with it? You to have a substack or anything like that, 746 01:04:00.760 --> 01:04:03.679 or a website that you tell people that you publish on. Yeah, 747 01:04:03.760 --> 01:04:10.159 if they go to Cultural Researchcenter dot com, they'll find all the research that 748 01:04:10.199 --> 01:04:12.679 we do. We try to put as much of it on that website for 749 01:04:12.760 --> 01:04:15.800 free as possible so people can take it, use it, share it. 750 01:04:16.280 --> 01:04:20.159 You know. The whole idea is for us to keep growing. Whether you're 751 01:04:20.199 --> 01:04:27.960 feeling like the booze or bluegrass, APS Radio has you covered. Check out 752 01:04:27.960 --> 01:04:33.159 a wide variety of channels on our app at apsradio dot com. We also 753 01:04:33.320 --> 01:04:38.599 have our T shirt, the guild and dark heather t shirt with a large 754 01:04:38.639 --> 01:04:44.400 logo on the back. That's the one that looks like this and see that 755 01:04:44.440 --> 01:04:58.119 correctly, and it has a logo on the left chest. The common mane 756 01:05:00.440 --> 01:05:04.679 they created common Core and dumb down our children. They created common Past, 757 01:05:04.960 --> 01:05:12.599 track and Control us their Commons project to make sure the commoners own nothing and 758 01:05:12.679 --> 01:05:18.199 the communist future. They see the common man as simple, unsophisticated ordinary, 759 01:05:19.199 --> 01:05:24.719 but each of us has worth and dignity created in the image of God. 760 01:05:26.880 --> 01:05:30.119 That is what we have in common. That is what they want to take 761 01:05:30.159 --> 01:05:36.000 away. Their most powerful weapons are isolation, deception, intimidation. They desire 762 01:05:36.039 --> 01:05:42.559 to know everything about us while they hide everything from us. It's time to 763 01:05:42.599 --> 01:05:47.039 turn that around and expose what they want to hide. Please share the information 764 01:05:47.119 --> 01:05:51.519 and links you'll find at the Davidknightshow dot com. Thank you for listening, 765 01:05:51.840 --> 01:06:00.880 Thank you for sharing. If you can't support us financially, please keep us 766 01:06:00.880 --> 01:06:31.239 in your prayers. The Davidknightshow dot Com. All right and joining us now. 767 01:06:31.599 --> 01:06:38.800 Our guest has written a book, Mao's America, A Survivor's Warning, 768 01:06:39.599 --> 01:06:45.159 And I am really anxious to talk to her because she grew up in China. 769 01:06:45.360 --> 01:06:48.519 She was there during Mao's Cultural Revolution. She eventually came to America. 770 01:06:49.280 --> 01:06:56.360 And I have seen this over and over again. You had Rodreyer said he 771 01:06:56.440 --> 01:07:04.760 had his friend's parents who had been in Stalinist, Russia, were getting very 772 01:07:04.840 --> 01:07:09.000 upset. They said, this is exactly the same stuff we saw in Russia. 773 01:07:09.079 --> 01:07:12.800 This is exactly the same stuff she saw in China. And we need 774 01:07:12.840 --> 01:07:15.679 to understand where these people are taking us. And we need to understand what 775 01:07:15.760 --> 01:07:19.599 their tactics are. So joining us now is she Van Fleet. Her book 776 01:07:19.679 --> 01:07:25.000 is Mao's America, A Survivor's Warning. Thank you so much for joining us, 777 01:07:25.719 --> 01:07:29.440 Thank you for inviting me. And you came to prominence. I mean, 778 01:07:29.480 --> 01:07:31.000 you were just kind of living a quiet life here in America, and 779 01:07:31.000 --> 01:07:36.159 you came to prominence in loud in Virginia because you were speaking out against some 780 01:07:36.159 --> 01:07:39.280 of the things that you saw in school. You said, this is exactly 781 01:07:39.280 --> 01:07:43.239 what I saw as a child growing up in China. This is the communist 782 01:07:43.320 --> 01:07:48.000 tactic. Tell us a little bit about Yeah. Of course that was something 783 01:07:48.079 --> 01:07:51.800 that I was not prepared for. So I went to school board and thinking 784 01:07:51.840 --> 01:07:59.480 I'm just doing my duty and have no idea that my video of envirol. 785 01:08:00.079 --> 01:08:05.920 Same time, I was shocked to find who few people know anything about communism 786 01:08:06.199 --> 01:08:12.000 and fewer people know about the Culture Revolution, And say, that's why I 787 01:08:12.119 --> 01:08:15.600 say that people have no idea what Walkie is. They thought it's something new, 788 01:08:15.640 --> 01:08:19.800 they thought it's just oh the left the wind praising. But for people 789 01:08:19.960 --> 01:08:25.880 who experienced culture Revolution and who lived down to communism, you don't have to 790 01:08:26.439 --> 01:08:30.960 experience the exactly what I experienced. The Chinese culture revolution. If you live 791 01:08:30.079 --> 01:08:38.880 under communism, it's we recognize it instantly. This is communism, That's what 792 01:08:38.920 --> 01:08:41.319 Andrea was saying. He said, the people who have lived under it, 793 01:08:41.359 --> 01:08:44.399 whether you know it was Russia or China, they can smell it a mile 794 01:08:44.439 --> 01:08:47.159 away, because you can't, Yes, you can't not look the other direction. 795 01:08:47.680 --> 01:08:53.399 I was surprised because we adopted our daughter from China. I was surprised 796 01:08:53.399 --> 01:08:58.439 when we went there about fifteen years ago that to see all these pictures of 797 01:08:58.479 --> 01:09:01.479 now everywhere, because I knew the uh, the hardship that people going through, 798 01:09:01.680 --> 01:09:04.640 how many people had died, the cultural revolution, all these other things. 799 01:09:04.640 --> 01:09:09.159 I was surprised to see him still essentially revered. Uh. But but 800 01:09:09.239 --> 01:09:11.840 we do that, don't we, in various kinds. Yeah, and the 801 01:09:11.880 --> 01:09:16.600 marks you know, the really the evil genius that his idea, a toxic 802 01:09:16.640 --> 01:09:21.720 ideology, led to the deaths of more than a hundred million people. He 803 01:09:23.239 --> 01:09:30.479 was still has has been revered by this uh left, and by the professors 804 01:09:30.520 --> 01:09:34.279 and the university and the students there as well. So yeah, because this 805 01:09:34.439 --> 01:09:42.319 ideology has never been public trialed and denounced. And uh, that is the 806 01:09:42.439 --> 01:09:45.439 problem. And that's why your book is very important. Tell us a little 807 01:09:45.439 --> 01:09:50.680 bit about what it was like growing up as a child and the cultural revolution 808 01:09:53.079 --> 01:09:57.560 did did you get sent out into the rural areas and every think as they 809 01:09:57.560 --> 01:10:01.720 were doing. Yes, Yeah, it a long history and it's complicated and 810 01:10:01.720 --> 01:10:06.119 it's I do my best to just make it sure and still, you know, 811 01:10:06.239 --> 01:10:15.199 makes sense. Okay. So I was in my second semester of the 812 01:10:15.239 --> 01:10:19.199 first grade when culture revolutions started in nineteen sixty six. So I had one 813 01:10:19.239 --> 01:10:28.560 semester of more or less normal education and then the and I remember very little, 814 01:10:28.600 --> 01:10:32.359 but I do remember, you know, in the reading class we were 815 01:10:32.880 --> 01:10:39.680 learning sentences that just describing nature kind of peaceful, kind of memorable, and 816 01:10:39.720 --> 01:10:44.279 a normal kind of thing. And then that was it. That's the only 817 01:10:44.319 --> 01:10:47.520 thing I remember. And then heading on to the second semester, that's when 818 01:10:47.560 --> 01:10:54.720 the culture revolution started, and pretty much immediately the school was closed because all 819 01:10:54.800 --> 01:11:00.399 the principles and teachers were ulstered by the students because they were they become the 820 01:11:00.479 --> 01:11:10.239 target of the cultural revolution, because MAO condemned all all of them as counter 821 01:11:10.479 --> 01:11:19.239 revolution reactionary intellectual authority, meaning they were the enemy of the state should be 822 01:11:19.239 --> 01:11:26.000 austered. So the students turned against their teachers, and the school were closed, 823 01:11:26.600 --> 01:11:33.279 closed for me two years and for other places as far as long as 824 01:11:33.399 --> 01:11:40.560 four years. No school, total chaos, and so we as little kids 825 01:11:40.920 --> 01:11:44.680 and nothing to do, so we went to the streets every day. And 826 01:11:44.720 --> 01:11:49.279 then what we witness is the unfolding of the cultural revolution, of the struggle, 827 01:11:49.319 --> 01:11:56.520 sessions parade, of those people being denounced and the Red Guards debated each 828 01:11:56.520 --> 01:12:03.960 other and pretty soon and canceled culture. Definitely uh smashing of statues and uh 829 01:12:04.000 --> 01:12:12.000 taking down anyside sign boards of school, of stores that were traditional anything that 830 01:12:12.119 --> 01:12:18.960 is not communist or revolutionary. We're all uh smashed and destroyed, and pretty 831 01:12:19.000 --> 01:12:23.880 soon turned into violence. You know. I did an interview not too long 832 01:12:23.920 --> 01:12:30.560 ago with an individual who wrote a book about a Project Veritas whistleblowers experience in 833 01:12:30.680 --> 01:12:33.880 corporation and how they were pushing you know, this critical race theory and things 834 01:12:33.920 --> 01:12:35.840 like that, and he was very upset about it. He was black, 835 01:12:36.239 --> 01:12:39.640 and he was still upset about it. He didn't like it, and so 836 01:12:39.680 --> 01:12:43.079 he started taking notes and then he became a whistleblower for Project Veritas and he 837 01:12:43.119 --> 01:12:45.960 wrote the book. I want to talk to the guy who wrote the book 838 01:12:45.119 --> 01:12:48.319 with him, and really for him. He was saying, Yeah, you 839 01:12:48.319 --> 01:12:50.560 know, all this stuff that's happened in critical race theory and all the rest 840 01:12:50.600 --> 01:12:54.680 of this stuff, people want to call it Marxism, it's not Marxism. 841 01:12:54.720 --> 01:12:58.880 It's like, well, it is Marxism. It absolutely is in so many 842 01:12:58.920 --> 01:13:00.880 different ways. I couldn't believe it when we said that. I didn't really, 843 01:13:01.039 --> 01:13:03.800 you know, get into it with them because I really wanted to find 844 01:13:03.840 --> 01:13:08.520 out this guy's experiences. But you know, it really is purely Marxism. 845 01:13:08.680 --> 01:13:13.119 Talk about the struggle sessions and people can understand if they understand some of the 846 01:13:13.159 --> 01:13:15.800 specifics of these things and what does struggle session look like, they'll start to 847 01:13:15.840 --> 01:13:18.680 see how it aligns with what we're seeing here in the United States. Yes, 848 01:13:18.760 --> 01:13:21.880 yes, but I want to add to what you just said. Too 849 01:13:21.920 --> 01:13:25.720 many people. I'm not talking about people on the left, I'm talking about 850 01:13:25.760 --> 01:13:30.359 conservatives. Still, we don't have enough people understand the nature of Fokism. 851 01:13:30.600 --> 01:13:36.600 It is a pure cultural Marxist Marxism, and it's pure Maoism. And that's 852 01:13:36.640 --> 01:13:44.880 why I call my book Maus America. It is Maoism with American characteristics. 853 01:13:45.119 --> 01:13:46.199 And that's why I don't like to use the term woke. I mean, 854 01:13:46.239 --> 01:13:48.960 first of all, these people are not awake, they're not conscious of what's 855 01:13:49.000 --> 01:13:53.479 going on. And the people who use that term, that's another trick that 856 01:13:53.479 --> 01:13:57.479 they do. And they come up with their own labels for themselves and their 857 01:13:57.520 --> 01:14:00.960 labels for you, and we must not use those labels because that's what propaganda 858 01:14:01.000 --> 01:14:05.760 too. The ccp U is the same word. Did they really? Yeah, 859 01:14:05.840 --> 01:14:10.359 they did, they did. And in Chinese it's called the g wu 860 01:14:10.880 --> 01:14:16.159 meaning awakening inside you a consciousness. And we have to raise our class consciousness 861 01:14:16.359 --> 01:14:23.199 and see everything in terms of class. And so any way, anyone that 862 01:14:23.399 --> 01:14:29.119 somehow run against the party narrative is casted as the enemy of the state or 863 01:14:29.159 --> 01:14:33.119 the black class, and that you always want to do anything to remain in 864 01:14:33.159 --> 01:14:39.159 the red class, which is the allies of the revolution. And constantly everyone 865 01:14:39.319 --> 01:14:45.439 has to raise their class warkness or consciousness no same terminology. People, of 866 01:14:45.439 --> 01:14:48.239 course, they don't know because they never learned the history. Okay. I 867 01:14:48.239 --> 01:14:53.119 think it's interesting in this country too, that they got everybody to agree with. 868 01:14:53.319 --> 01:14:55.359 Okay, we've got the Red States and the Blue States. It's like, 869 01:14:55.399 --> 01:14:59.319 no, the Blue States approaching Marxism socialism, the Red States, the 870 01:14:59.520 --> 01:15:01.840 Red is all always been the color of the communists, as you just pointed 871 01:15:01.840 --> 01:15:06.319 out, Yeah, exactly, and so they for you that to muddy the 872 01:15:06.359 --> 01:15:10.319 water, to confuse people, and you got people out there saying, yes, 873 01:15:10.399 --> 01:15:16.319 we're the red state where the I know, I am so disgusted with 874 01:15:16.359 --> 01:15:20.800 communism, but for the longest time, I don't want to wear innocent red 875 01:15:21.319 --> 01:15:27.039 because that just reminds me of communism, of revolution, of blood, of 876 01:15:27.199 --> 01:15:30.039 violence. And then come here, okay, you know we are you know, 877 01:15:30.880 --> 01:15:35.840 the public hall is red. But then I found out the Democrats did 878 01:15:35.880 --> 01:15:42.359 the switch because they don't want to associate with uh Communism, which is exactly 879 01:15:42.399 --> 01:15:46.840 what they what they are anyway, So now I wear, I embrace red 880 01:15:46.920 --> 01:15:53.199 because now I'm conservative because stuck with the color red, we just have to 881 01:15:53.199 --> 01:15:57.199 make the best offer. I just try to avoid that term and that red 882 01:15:57.279 --> 01:15:59.760 and woke as much as I can, because and you know, if you 883 01:15:59.840 --> 01:16:01.279 got I can you look at Antiphi. I got a friend who was in 884 01:16:01.520 --> 01:16:04.479 Germany and he says, you go back to the nineteen thirties. They haven't 885 01:16:04.520 --> 01:16:10.319 even changed their flag. They had the same flag in Germany in the nineteen 886 01:16:10.359 --> 01:16:14.000 thirties that they've got now. And so yeah, it is amazing how they 887 01:16:14.039 --> 01:16:16.479 just import this stuff over because Americans don't know their history and they don't know 888 01:16:16.479 --> 01:16:19.520 what has happened in other countries. They just they swallowed hook line and sinker. 889 01:16:19.600 --> 01:16:23.199 So tell us about the struggle sessions. Yes, strago session? What 890 01:16:23.279 --> 01:16:28.720 is Straugo session? And actually I'm going a little deeper what that really means. 891 01:16:28.840 --> 01:16:33.319 A struggle session is a term and the use not just doing the cultural 892 01:16:33.359 --> 01:16:40.159 evolution. It started as soon as the communists took over China in nineteen forty 893 01:16:40.239 --> 01:16:44.960 nine, and then one of the major campaigns they launched is called land reform. 894 01:16:45.359 --> 01:16:55.960 Land reform is the what communists did to fulfil their promise to the peasants 895 01:16:56.319 --> 01:17:00.479 who support their revolution that they're going to give the free land to them. 896 01:17:02.840 --> 01:17:10.760 All right, that's okay, yeah, and I got some free gift for 897 01:17:10.800 --> 01:17:15.800 you here. Okay, good good, yeah, okay, So they here 898 01:17:16.079 --> 01:17:23.920 listen to it. How do you get all the peasants together and fight the 899 01:17:24.000 --> 01:17:30.920 landlord in order to get their land? Mhm. To raise the class consciousness 900 01:17:30.319 --> 01:17:35.640 because they the peasants did not know such a thing as a class that was 901 01:17:35.640 --> 01:17:43.760 an alien to them, So they have to be taught and just like DEI 902 01:17:43.960 --> 01:17:48.800 training, So the Communists trained the peasants and told them you are poor, 903 01:17:48.840 --> 01:17:54.880 not because you did not work hard, not because you are not smart. 904 01:17:56.600 --> 01:18:00.359 Mm hmmm. And we're seeing that now in terms of reparation is because de 905 01:18:00.439 --> 01:18:03.399 agree that. You know, there they used and in Europe they used class, 906 01:18:04.039 --> 01:18:08.119 and that doesn't work here in America because you know, nobody really saw 907 01:18:08.159 --> 01:18:11.119 themselves as being a different class, but they did see themselves as being a 908 01:18:11.159 --> 01:18:14.319 different race, a different skin color. Yeah, so that's what they focused 909 01:18:14.319 --> 01:18:16.359 on, and that's why there's been so much focus on white privilege and all 910 01:18:16.399 --> 01:18:19.479 the rest of stuff, and why you know, the reparations is really very 911 01:18:19.560 --> 01:18:23.560 much like the promises of land reform. They even go back and say, 912 01:18:23.600 --> 01:18:27.159 well, you know, after the after slavery, you're supposed to get you 913 01:18:27.159 --> 01:18:29.840 know, an acre and forty mules or something like that. Or you know 914 01:18:29.880 --> 01:18:32.760 that they actually make these figns of analogies. Yeah, yeah, same idea. 915 01:18:32.800 --> 01:18:38.800 But anyway to raise your class to be woke. It's the condition to 916 01:18:39.039 --> 01:18:42.479 have a revolution. And then the peasants find on they said, okay, 917 01:18:43.159 --> 01:18:48.000 we are poor. They were taught we they are poor because the rich explored 918 01:18:48.560 --> 01:18:56.159 explored it and oppressed them. So now now everyone now there are two classes. 919 01:18:56.479 --> 01:18:59.920 There's a black class, there's a red class and their enemies. And 920 01:19:00.239 --> 01:19:05.239 then the goal of the red class to is to eradicate the black class. 921 01:19:05.479 --> 01:19:13.239 So that is the beginning of the political identity. And that was the saying 922 01:19:13.239 --> 01:19:19.720 that the CCP used to permanently divide American other Chinese people. Okay, going 923 01:19:19.760 --> 01:19:25.680 back to the h So the struggle station started in their land reform in nineteen 924 01:19:25.720 --> 01:19:31.000 forty nine to nineteen fifty one. The same formula they absolutely the Yeah, 925 01:19:31.039 --> 01:19:40.119 the same tactic is the landlord or the rich peasants will be struggled against like 926 01:19:40.159 --> 01:19:45.079 a public trial, and the peasants would condemn them, and the peasants were 927 01:19:45.399 --> 01:19:51.680 coached to retell their suffering and then blame all their suffering, all their problem 928 01:19:53.119 --> 01:19:59.199 to the landlord and then an end. And then they they were saying, 929 01:19:59.760 --> 01:20:02.479 what we will do with the landlord and our death to the landlord, and 930 01:20:02.520 --> 01:20:06.960 then dragged out and executed. And that's how it started. And during the 931 01:20:08.000 --> 01:20:13.880 Culture Revolution, the enemy has shifted. It's no longer the landlord and the 932 01:20:13.960 --> 01:20:21.159 rich peasants. They become those in power, meaning those were the CCP bureaucrats 933 01:20:21.760 --> 01:20:27.359 or the CCP leadership. Why because mau felt like he was no longer in 934 01:20:27.439 --> 01:20:31.479 control of his party and who wanted to purge everyone. He can't purge everyone 935 01:20:31.840 --> 01:20:35.359 because that would look like he was after his own party. He had a 936 01:20:35.359 --> 01:20:42.600 better idea. He mobilized all the young people from his government schools and his 937 01:20:42.880 --> 01:20:47.680 universities. Those were called the Red Guards. So they took the mobilized the 938 01:20:47.760 --> 01:20:54.680 Red Guards, gave them power, pure power, and dismantled the police and 939 01:20:54.760 --> 01:20:59.000 the law enforcement. And no one can stop them. Anything they do was 940 01:20:59.199 --> 01:21:03.199 justified. Thing they do has no consequences. So they went after those in 941 01:21:03.439 --> 01:21:09.039 power, all levels of the government, from the village to the central government. 942 01:21:09.439 --> 01:21:15.279 So that is what the Red Guards did. Struggle session is I witnessed 943 01:21:15.319 --> 01:21:23.439 the struggle session for the governor of my province. So because the governor was 944 01:21:23.520 --> 01:21:30.239 pretty tall, so they got two basketball players, two to hold him on 945 01:21:30.279 --> 01:21:33.439 the stage, and so to make the governor look small. And then the 946 01:21:33.479 --> 01:21:40.680 Redguards have a love speaker and denounce him, and so then people shout slogans. 947 01:21:40.720 --> 01:21:45.079 And during that particular struggle session, I did not see violence, but 948 01:21:45.199 --> 01:21:50.960 he was beaten. He was struggled against she. He probably went to like 949 01:21:51.039 --> 01:21:57.319 a hundred of this kind of a struggle session. And his wife was also 950 01:21:57.520 --> 01:22:01.279 part of that struggle sessions. And during one struggle session, they pulled the 951 01:22:01.359 --> 01:22:08.840 red guards, pulled all her hair off, and eventually she committed suicide. 952 01:22:09.439 --> 01:22:15.039 So that is a and there is a violent struggle session that people were beaten 953 01:22:15.079 --> 01:22:18.960 to death right on the spot, and they were my older which is just 954 01:22:19.600 --> 01:22:24.640 verbal abuse. That's what I looked at. But that's not it. It's 955 01:22:24.680 --> 01:22:32.279 not just strugglesession is not something against denounced enemy. Struggle session really really means 956 01:22:32.600 --> 01:22:41.239 struggle against yourself. And in the CCP's world is a criticism and self criticism. 957 01:22:41.560 --> 01:22:45.800 As a young kid, I went through, it's a routine. It's 958 01:22:45.880 --> 01:22:50.439 every week there is a political study and then we have to read some of 959 01:22:50.840 --> 01:22:59.079 the mouse quotations and then we carry out this self criticism and self criticism. 960 01:22:59.359 --> 01:23:04.199 So each kid will say whatever the person, you know, the kid did 961 01:23:04.239 --> 01:23:12.359 not do well enough according to MoU's instruction, So you denounce yourself. Wow, 962 01:23:12.640 --> 01:23:15.520 And we see that today. We see that today that kids have to 963 01:23:15.520 --> 01:23:19.279 denounce themselves because of their you know, their gender, you know, uh, 964 01:23:20.159 --> 01:23:24.640 and and their normality or whatever that we would say, or their skin 965 01:23:24.720 --> 01:23:29.760 color. It's exactly the same thing that you see that. Yeah, so 966 01:23:29.800 --> 01:23:34.279 you denounce yourself and then you denounce your classmates. So we go around and 967 01:23:34.359 --> 01:23:36.960 round around. You say, okay, I did not do this right, 968 01:23:38.119 --> 01:23:41.920 you know, of course we did not say we have privilege, you know, 969 01:23:42.119 --> 01:23:46.159 just say well, we're not up to mouse instruction and we should do 970 01:23:46.199 --> 01:23:49.319 better, and then say so. And so that day I saw you say 971 01:23:49.479 --> 01:23:54.039 this, and I saw you act like that, and that's not right. 972 01:23:54.600 --> 01:24:00.359 So it's that is really the core. It's not those kind of a public 973 01:24:00.439 --> 01:24:06.439 trial. It is at every level, every person is involved in struggle session. 974 01:24:06.880 --> 01:24:13.079 So that's exactly what we're seeing now. Ei, you denounce your privilege 975 01:24:13.279 --> 01:24:16.960 if you're white, okay, and then and you swear that you'll do better, 976 01:24:17.399 --> 01:24:23.439 right, and then you denounce your coworker who you heard saying this and 977 01:24:23.520 --> 01:24:29.000 that, And that's absolutely the same thing. Oh yes, I remember the 978 01:24:29.079 --> 01:24:34.399 testimony of a young girl who was pressured into gender mutilation of and surgery and 979 01:24:34.439 --> 01:24:36.479 things like that, and she said, you know, I got into this 980 01:24:36.600 --> 01:24:41.560 group because and I forget what it was like. It was some pop group 981 01:24:41.640 --> 01:24:44.560 that she liked or some game that she liked or something like that, and 982 01:24:44.640 --> 01:24:47.359 so just a special interest group. But everybody that was in it was into 983 01:24:47.399 --> 01:24:50.600 this type of struggle session thing. She didn't call it that, but she 984 01:24:50.680 --> 01:24:55.560 said, you know, they were all leftists, and you know, and 985 01:24:55.600 --> 01:24:59.079 I was just heterosexual, and I was white, and I had to denounce 986 01:24:59.159 --> 01:25:01.239 myself to be a part of this group. And so I started denouncing all 987 01:25:01.279 --> 01:25:04.520 that. It wasn't enough to just say, okay, you do whatever you 988 01:25:04.560 --> 01:25:08.680 want. I had to hate myself for that, and I had to make 989 01:25:08.720 --> 01:25:11.399 these confessions to them. That is what they're doing to all the kids. 990 01:25:11.479 --> 01:25:18.640 It's amazing how they have very insidiously and subtly and undercover inserted all of these 991 01:25:18.680 --> 01:25:24.039 psychological tactics that were used by mouth in America. It's amazing, of course, 992 01:25:24.119 --> 01:25:27.720 because people have no idea because they don't know history, and people like 993 01:25:27.800 --> 01:25:31.680 me, it sees thro right away because it's the same, absolutely the same 994 01:25:31.720 --> 01:25:36.119 thing. So you can't be just not a racist, right you have to 995 01:25:36.159 --> 01:25:42.479 be anti racist? Yes, yes, yeah, so exactly the same idea. 996 01:25:42.720 --> 01:25:45.840 Yes. Tell us a little bit about the cancel culture, of course, 997 01:25:45.840 --> 01:25:47.039 which is tied with that as well, and the need for them to 998 01:25:47.079 --> 01:25:53.239 destroy statues. We just saw this fetishized destruction of a robberty lea statue, 999 01:25:53.640 --> 01:25:57.159 and you know, they took up, you know, a very high quality 1000 01:25:57.239 --> 01:25:59.760 video of them melting it down, all the rest of stuff. This is 1001 01:25:59.760 --> 01:26:02.880 a very very important thing for the communists to take down statues and to raise 1002 01:26:02.920 --> 01:26:09.359 the culture that's existing there. Yeah, the goal is to erase past period. 1003 01:26:09.960 --> 01:26:15.600 Hencel culture is really too. In China, it's called a destruction of 1004 01:26:15.640 --> 01:26:20.359 the four old Old idea, old culture, old habit, old custom. 1005 01:26:20.840 --> 01:26:30.359 Anything that is traditional, anything that is a pre communist communist regime has to 1006 01:26:30.399 --> 01:26:35.119 be erased, has to be destroyed. And you start with something very symbolic, 1007 01:26:35.359 --> 01:26:40.239 right, anything that is everyone can see. And then what you do, 1008 01:26:40.279 --> 01:26:45.880 You go and destroy the statues. And so in China we do not 1009 01:26:45.039 --> 01:26:51.680 have many public statues as in the West. Most of them were religious statues 1010 01:26:51.760 --> 01:26:57.920 such as uh in the in the Buddhist temple or in church. And that's 1011 01:26:58.039 --> 01:27:03.000 what they went after they destroy all the statues and UH. And that's not 1012 01:27:03.159 --> 01:27:10.520 it. They changed their names of everything that is not traditional, that is 1013 01:27:10.600 --> 01:27:16.960 traditional, such as institution names, store names, food brand sounds familiar, 1014 01:27:17.239 --> 01:27:25.000 Yeah, exactly. Names we're deep into this. We're deep into this, 1015 01:27:25.039 --> 01:27:30.600 aren't we. So the four oles old ideas, old culture, old habit 1016 01:27:30.680 --> 01:27:35.840 what was the fourth one? And old customs old customs. Interesting Now it's 1017 01:27:35.880 --> 01:27:43.399 just the civilization of China. Yeah, it all has to go. Why 1018 01:27:43.439 --> 01:27:50.079 because if you want to install Maoism as the supreme ideology or the religion of 1019 01:27:50.159 --> 01:27:55.520 the land, you have to remove everything before it, and that and and 1020 01:27:56.079 --> 01:28:00.239 and the cancel culture went to the next stage. Okay, destroy everything in 1021 01:28:00.279 --> 01:28:04.399 the public okay. And this is there were more. They were hidden in 1022 01:28:04.479 --> 01:28:09.680 people's homes. I won't have to go after that. That's what they did. 1023 01:28:10.119 --> 01:28:16.159 They raided people's homes and took whatever they think is old, destroyed them, 1024 01:28:16.319 --> 01:28:26.039 or confiscated them. This is the largest looking operation in the history of 1025 01:28:26.079 --> 01:28:31.039 mankind. Wow. Wow, of course you know we have the irs is 1026 01:28:31.079 --> 01:28:34.359 going to be made five to seven times bigger, depending on which budget they 1027 01:28:34.359 --> 01:28:36.800 go through. And that's what I'm concerned about, is that they're going to 1028 01:28:36.920 --> 01:28:43.680 go around confiscating not necessarily statues because people wanted them in these statues are things 1029 01:28:43.720 --> 01:28:46.039 like that in their own but go around confiscating any physical property. Tell us 1030 01:28:46.039 --> 01:28:49.520 a little bit about what they did to the family, because that is a 1031 01:28:49.600 --> 01:28:54.920 key part of this. You know, in America, was there as part 1032 01:28:54.960 --> 01:28:58.960 of the four holes with that, I don't know, would the family fall 1033 01:28:59.000 --> 01:29:01.279 into one of these in terms of a culture or custom or something like that. 1034 01:29:02.520 --> 01:29:10.239 Yes, okay, I'm sorry, Oh that's okay. Take your time, 1035 01:29:10.680 --> 01:29:12.760 drink, drink something. If you'd like to go ahead, go ahead, 1036 01:29:13.680 --> 01:29:17.479 I'll cover here for you. You said that again. You know, 1037 01:29:17.560 --> 01:29:20.720 we look at things like critical race theory and stuff like that. Again we're 1038 01:29:20.720 --> 01:29:28.199 talking about race rather than class. That's the difference in communism in America versus 1039 01:29:29.279 --> 01:29:33.640 China or Europe. But again, old ideas, old cultures, old habits, 1040 01:29:33.680 --> 01:29:41.159 and old customs. And I imagine family fits in there somewhere absolutely. 1041 01:29:41.479 --> 01:29:48.399 So for family, you don't have to guess. You just read Communist manifesto. 1042 01:29:48.600 --> 01:29:55.199 It laid out there are clearly there's three things they want to abolish. 1043 01:29:55.640 --> 01:30:01.640 One is private property now that it's religion. Another is family. So that 1044 01:30:01.840 --> 01:30:06.079 is laid out there, you know, clear for everyone to see. They 1045 01:30:06.119 --> 01:30:15.560 have to destroy religion because in order to implement communism as the religion and and 1046 01:30:16.159 --> 01:30:27.520 be this is very very important. Communism is not and a community is a 1047 01:30:27.560 --> 01:30:31.960 religion. It is and even though they say that against religion, but it 1048 01:30:32.159 --> 01:30:40.039 is a religion that it replaced religion. So they have to destroy religion and 1049 01:30:40.159 --> 01:30:45.600 uh, and they have to destroy family because those are the foundations of any 1050 01:30:45.760 --> 01:30:53.880 society. So that started very early on, especially in schools, and so 1051 01:30:54.319 --> 01:31:00.560 it was very very clear to everyone, not just to kids, but to 1052 01:31:00.680 --> 01:31:05.159 parents as well. The kids belonged to the state, Yes, and parents 1053 01:31:05.560 --> 01:31:13.119 understand that. And so if you have to choose between your parents and the 1054 01:31:13.239 --> 01:31:17.840 state, you choose the state. And there's no question about it. Many 1055 01:31:17.960 --> 01:31:26.760 kids reported their parents during the Cultural Revolution to their authority, and some of 1056 01:31:26.840 --> 01:31:32.640 the parents were arrested and some were executed. It was so clear in my 1057 01:31:32.760 --> 01:31:41.319 mind, in every kid's mind, the party was our parents, and the 1058 01:31:41.560 --> 01:31:47.000 chairman now was our parent. And that is if you talk to any any 1059 01:31:47.039 --> 01:31:54.279 people lived under communism, it is a common threat. They destroyed religion, 1060 01:31:54.840 --> 01:32:00.359 they destroy family. Yeah. And of course those of us who knew about 1061 01:32:00.359 --> 01:32:04.960 that understood and saw that when Hillary Clinton said it takes a village to raise 1062 01:32:04.960 --> 01:32:09.000 a child, you know, you turn, you destroy the family, you 1063 01:32:09.039 --> 01:32:14.800 put the children under the care of the government. We had MSNBC running public 1064 01:32:14.840 --> 01:32:17.640 service announcements a few years ago. Melissa Harris Perry I think was their name. 1065 01:32:17.680 --> 01:32:20.800 She we've got to get over this idea the children belonged to the parents, 1066 01:32:21.000 --> 01:32:25.560 and at that point in time, they hadn't really found something that they 1067 01:32:25.560 --> 01:32:29.920 could use as a wedge. Now what they're doing is they're using this transgender 1068 01:32:29.960 --> 01:32:31.720 thing as a wedge, and that's where it's coming in. But it'll be 1069 01:32:31.760 --> 01:32:34.199 other things, you know, it'll be denounced to be the other things. 1070 01:32:34.279 --> 01:32:36.720 Yeah, there'll be other things. That's just the first thing they're doing right 1071 01:32:36.720 --> 01:32:40.279 now. Yeah, yeah, that was not on the horizon. And you 1072 01:32:40.279 --> 01:32:42.399 know people are looking at this. Oh okay, fine, you know the 1073 01:32:42.520 --> 01:32:45.039 villages is there. They're going to help to do it, and but you 1074 01:32:45.079 --> 01:32:48.279 know what, where is the conflict there? And they and so they came 1075 01:32:48.359 --> 01:32:51.279 up with the conflict for the first they sell you the idea that kids belonged 1076 01:32:51.279 --> 01:32:55.159 to the state and to the society and to the village, and then they 1077 01:32:55.159 --> 01:33:00.199 find the issues of conflict to punish the parents with have been doing that before. 1078 01:33:00.279 --> 01:33:08.960 Transgender. Transgender really just showcase that how they are trying to categize between 1079 01:33:09.159 --> 01:33:15.800 parents and children and actively set children up against their parents. But for decades 1080 01:33:16.039 --> 01:33:24.920 they have been teaching the values of Communism and Marxism, and even though that's 1081 01:33:25.039 --> 01:33:31.039 not what Americans know about, but they have been developing the children with a 1082 01:33:31.159 --> 01:33:38.680 new set of ideologies and created this conflict between generations, right. And there's 1083 01:33:38.720 --> 01:33:42.560 a lot of family, especially in recent years, a lot of families just 1084 01:33:42.680 --> 01:33:47.960 broken up, just like the cultural Revolution, because they don't agree with each 1085 01:33:47.960 --> 01:33:51.760 other ideologically. And they have been doing that for a very very long time. 1086 01:33:51.840 --> 01:33:57.600 And they will find other issues, and they will find any issues to 1087 01:33:57.800 --> 01:34:04.279 advance their their agenda that means to take the children away from the parents so 1088 01:34:04.439 --> 01:34:08.760 they control them. That's right. Yeah, you know, just as we 1089 01:34:08.800 --> 01:34:14.600 saw that they used class in China and in Europe as a dividing thing, 1090 01:34:14.880 --> 01:34:18.279 and here they use skin color. Then I think also in the same way, 1091 01:34:18.680 --> 01:34:21.439 this dividing wedge. I've seen this as you talked about. This has 1092 01:34:21.479 --> 01:34:26.319 been going on for decades, of course, and I remember one of the 1093 01:34:26.399 --> 01:34:30.439 first cases that I saw this is up in Massachusetts, and it was a 1094 01:34:30.479 --> 01:34:33.600 father who didn't want his eight year old girl and a sex education class that 1095 01:34:33.680 --> 01:34:40.520 at the time was not into all of these. She always say, highly 1096 01:34:40.520 --> 01:34:44.319 deviant sexual practices that are going on right now. It was just straight side. 1097 01:34:44.319 --> 01:34:45.640 But she was eight years old and I don't think she's mature enough for 1098 01:34:45.680 --> 01:34:49.000 this, and they said, well, she has to do it. So 1099 01:34:49.039 --> 01:34:53.319 he went to school to take her out. They rested in for trespassing and 1100 01:34:53.359 --> 01:34:57.399 the judge said, when you drop your child off at the school, you 1101 01:34:57.479 --> 01:35:00.439 have surrendered them to the state, and we will act loco parentis in place 1102 01:35:00.479 --> 01:35:04.399 of the parents. And so there's been this wedge, you know that they've 1103 01:35:04.399 --> 01:35:09.760 been making the wedge of the sexual wedge. They've been making it wider and 1104 01:35:09.840 --> 01:35:14.640 wider with all the different diverse practices and everything. But just as they began 1105 01:35:14.680 --> 01:35:17.840 to use this wedge of sexuality against the parents and the and this really kind 1106 01:35:17.840 --> 01:35:21.239 of does go back even to the mid twentieth century, you know, we 1107 01:35:21.319 --> 01:35:26.079 had the and then following up you know, in the nineteen fifties a generation 1108 01:35:26.199 --> 01:35:29.000 gap, and then the sexual Revolution all of this stuff. They've been using 1109 01:35:29.039 --> 01:35:32.359 the sex thing as as a wedge issue, especially with the parents, and 1110 01:35:32.439 --> 01:35:36.760 they've really weaponized it in a very visual way, especially in just the last 1111 01:35:36.800 --> 01:35:40.279 few years. But they'll find other things, as you point out, and 1112 01:35:40.319 --> 01:35:45.159 always do something. Yeah, sex was the are secret weapon. But it's 1113 01:35:45.319 --> 01:35:50.800 really anything tranditional, anything kind of a normal their challenging right now, right. 1114 01:35:51.159 --> 01:35:57.520 And therefore, in the communist country that we were taught we were equal 1115 01:35:57.760 --> 01:36:02.840 to the parents. We can educate our parents. So many times we were 1116 01:36:02.880 --> 01:36:08.960 taught that we were better than our parents because we know better, we are 1117 01:36:09.000 --> 01:36:15.319 more updated in our learning, and so we should always watch out our parents 1118 01:36:15.319 --> 01:36:20.279 and make sure they are up to date with their learning and so. And 1119 01:36:20.840 --> 01:36:28.680 that's why in the communist countries and they worship or or they give power to 1120 01:36:28.720 --> 01:36:32.319 the youth, and that's what we're doing now. The young people they know 1121 01:36:34.279 --> 01:36:41.159 were led to believe that they know better or they know what's best for them. 1122 01:36:41.560 --> 01:36:45.000 And the same ideality, the same idea that the children are better off 1123 01:36:45.600 --> 01:36:49.279 knowing what's best for them than the parents. That's right. And I saw 1124 01:36:49.319 --> 01:36:53.039 that, you know, even though I was a child at the time, 1125 01:36:53.680 --> 01:36:56.920 you could see that there was something different that it happened, and it was 1126 01:36:56.960 --> 01:37:00.560 really flowing out of the schools they use, the schools even at the beginning 1127 01:37:00.640 --> 01:37:02.680 of all this. The idea that we've got in America, one of the 1128 01:37:02.720 --> 01:37:08.840 things that's made us very vulnerable is we love the idea that we're constantly reinventing 1129 01:37:09.039 --> 01:37:13.319 culture. Our culture is very fluid. I would imagine that in China it 1130 01:37:13.359 --> 01:37:17.760 was a lot more conservative and not as fluctuating as it has been in America. 1131 01:37:17.880 --> 01:37:24.199 Because of the embracing of media and entertainment and of the Baby boom, 1132 01:37:24.279 --> 01:37:27.039 teenagers and all the rest of the stuff, they were able to then have 1133 01:37:27.119 --> 01:37:32.640 this rapidly evolving culture that really kind of played into their hands. I think 1134 01:37:33.000 --> 01:37:39.039 was it more conservative in China when Mao came in in terms of culture of 1135 01:37:39.000 --> 01:37:43.159 the family. Yeah, it was very transitional. Yeah, but during the 1136 01:37:43.199 --> 01:37:48.680 culture everything turned turned upside down in the culture revolution. To us, the 1137 01:37:48.760 --> 01:37:56.000 world was turned upside down. Just like today. We're told similar things. 1138 01:37:56.319 --> 01:38:00.479 I think some of them were not as extreme as what do we see America. 1139 01:38:00.680 --> 01:38:03.199 But we were also told that there's no difference between men and women. 1140 01:38:03.319 --> 01:38:10.359 We're the same. We are whatever men can do, women can do better, 1141 01:38:10.640 --> 01:38:14.239 the other half of the sky, the other half of the like Biden 1142 01:38:14.359 --> 01:38:18.640 told it, and so in Yeah, so we dressed like a man, 1143 01:38:19.439 --> 01:38:25.479 we talk like men, we think like men, we act like men. 1144 01:38:25.560 --> 01:38:29.479 So if you go to China in the sixteen seventies, you see a sea 1145 01:38:29.720 --> 01:38:34.279 of gray people look like and you can hardly distinguish the gender. And so 1146 01:38:34.359 --> 01:38:43.760 we were made into a genderless society. And so so Mao and always brag 1147 01:38:43.880 --> 01:38:50.479 that he liberated women and from the oppression of the of the old society and 1148 01:38:50.520 --> 01:38:57.039 of the patriarchy. But they did not give them choice. So they're all 1149 01:38:57.119 --> 01:39:02.520 liberated from from the whole hold you know, shores and their children were sent 1150 01:39:02.560 --> 01:39:08.439 to daycare by the government, so they were forced to join their workforce. 1151 01:39:08.560 --> 01:39:13.840 They become the work bee for the party, the work side by side with 1152 01:39:14.000 --> 01:39:18.279 the men, so they become men. So it's it's not extreme ASTs say 1153 01:39:18.359 --> 01:39:24.119 that women can be men and men can be women. But it's the same 1154 01:39:24.159 --> 01:39:27.600 idea, the same idea, same idea, same idea. Yeah, yeah, 1155 01:39:27.640 --> 01:39:30.560 we just adding a kind of a sexual deviance overtone to it. And 1156 01:39:31.119 --> 01:39:35.199 it is that radical leveling, which is another you know, everything in communism 1157 01:39:35.359 --> 01:39:39.319 is leveled, right, Uh, you know, we take everybody down except 1158 01:39:39.319 --> 01:39:43.880 for the people atop. Uh. Everybody else owns nothing and they're happier and 1159 01:39:43.960 --> 01:39:46.680 all that, aren't they. Yeah, Now that's what I say. Now 1160 01:39:46.840 --> 01:39:51.880 we're taught, uh that we're taught that we should own nothing and be happy 1161 01:39:53.199 --> 01:39:59.119 in Chinese h in the communists China in most time, especially that we had 1162 01:39:59.199 --> 01:40:03.119 nothing and we have to we have to be happy. If you show that 1163 01:40:03.159 --> 01:40:09.239 you're not happy, if you show that you're dissatisfied, you were end up 1164 01:40:09.920 --> 01:40:13.600 in a struggle session or in the pulogs. Yeah, yeah, that's why. 1165 01:40:13.880 --> 01:40:15.840 That's that's what they're working on here. That's exactly what. Yeah, 1166 01:40:15.880 --> 01:40:19.359 if you if you are not happy, you know, well you better take 1167 01:40:19.760 --> 01:40:23.920 you know, the brave New World approach. You know, you can self 1168 01:40:23.960 --> 01:40:27.840 medicate with drugs or alcohol or sex or whatever to just drop out of the 1169 01:40:27.880 --> 01:40:30.279 world. But if you pay attention and you get upset about it, you 1170 01:40:30.279 --> 01:40:33.960 get the nineteen eighty four treatment. And uh yeah, that's It's amazing how 1171 01:40:34.000 --> 01:40:39.359 this is all coming around and we're seeing exactly the same type of thing. 1172 01:40:39.640 --> 01:40:45.399 So what do you You're you've written the book, You've gone around and talked 1173 01:40:45.399 --> 01:40:49.800 to a lot of people and giving trying to wake up Americans. Are they 1174 01:40:49.800 --> 01:40:55.000 starting to see the light in this? I do? I think when I 1175 01:40:55.079 --> 01:41:00.520 started to talk and I remember one particular place and I went to talk and 1176 01:41:00.520 --> 01:41:05.079 I talk about cultural evolution, Red Guard, and I just noticed there's this 1177 01:41:05.199 --> 01:41:11.840 kind of blunk look from the audience and I realized, my god, they 1178 01:41:11.880 --> 01:41:15.399 really don't know anything. I have to start from the very beginning, and 1179 01:41:15.439 --> 01:41:18.319 I can't just say the cultural revolution, what is cultural evolution? Why culture 1180 01:41:18.399 --> 01:41:23.199 revolution? What is Red Guard? How it comes into being? And there's 1181 01:41:23.319 --> 01:41:27.119 just too much to explain in that, you know, like forty minutes speak 1182 01:41:27.680 --> 01:41:30.560 And in the process, a lot of people ask me. You know, 1183 01:41:30.840 --> 01:41:32.479 I met a lot of people in the past two years and they said, 1184 01:41:32.520 --> 01:41:36.359 you have a book. I'm going to write a book. And it's because 1185 01:41:36.880 --> 01:41:44.039 that I know that I need to write this book to explain everything in more 1186 01:41:44.079 --> 01:41:49.199 detail, how and why and where and all that. And I hope that 1187 01:41:49.359 --> 01:41:57.359 it's going to be helpful for people to understand what the Chinese culture revolution is 1188 01:41:57.399 --> 01:42:01.359 about and why it's so similar to them American culture revolution that is unfolding in 1189 01:42:01.399 --> 01:42:04.560 front of us. Yeah, you know, people talk about communists version. 1190 01:42:04.560 --> 01:42:09.199 But the reason they mentioned that is because these people a brought the exact same 1191 01:42:09.399 --> 01:42:14.800 tactics and plans and and you know, pretended that this is just something that 1192 01:42:14.800 --> 01:42:18.079 they thought of. And if we don't understand the pattern and how this has 1193 01:42:18.119 --> 01:42:21.000 been used and what it led to, it's going to be really bad. 1194 01:42:21.039 --> 01:42:26.840 Now, were there during the period when there was a lot of starvation and 1195 01:42:26.920 --> 01:42:30.279 things like that. No, No, I was born in the in that 1196 01:42:30.439 --> 01:42:35.239 time, and it started in nineteen fifty nine, lasted three years. So 1197 01:42:35.560 --> 01:42:40.000 no I, so you're not, as your child, you're not really caught 1198 01:42:40.039 --> 01:42:43.319 up in the great leap forward type of thing, right. No. I 1199 01:42:43.359 --> 01:42:48.399 was too little for that. But everybody, you know, like my parents' 1200 01:42:48.439 --> 01:42:55.520 generation, know about and stories are still alive that I know enough growing up. 1201 01:42:56.359 --> 01:43:00.439 But I did not understand why. But I just understood that it was 1202 01:43:00.479 --> 01:43:04.880 a time that everyone was going hungry. And those were lucky ones because they 1203 01:43:04.880 --> 01:43:10.600 were in the city and they have ration, They have ration of a certain 1204 01:43:10.640 --> 01:43:15.600 amount of food even though everybody was going hungry. But in the countryside, 1205 01:43:15.880 --> 01:43:21.399 that's where death took place. Up to fifty million Chinese peasants died. Well. 1206 01:43:21.960 --> 01:43:26.640 It's very interesting how both Stalin and mal use so many of the same 1207 01:43:26.720 --> 01:43:29.760 tactics. As you're pointing out the struggle sessions and everything. You know, 1208 01:43:29.880 --> 01:43:32.239 Stalin had his purges, but then at the beginning of all this, you 1209 01:43:32.319 --> 01:43:36.079 know, Stalin had his helamidor and Ukraine goes to the place where it's the 1210 01:43:36.079 --> 01:43:41.760 most fertile and starves of people to death. MAO does the same thing with 1211 01:43:41.760 --> 01:43:45.640 this great leap forward. And it's very troubling to see that now that we 1212 01:43:45.760 --> 01:43:50.159 have our technocrat overlords who were saying, well, we're going to have to 1213 01:43:50.239 --> 01:43:54.720 change the way you do food, and we're going to you know, dismantle 1214 01:43:54.720 --> 01:43:57.359 the food supply, We're going to dismantle energy, We're going to do all 1215 01:43:57.399 --> 01:44:00.680 this stuff. All of that stuff seems to be that same tactic seems to 1216 01:44:00.680 --> 01:44:03.079 be on the horizon. And of course that really is kind of at the 1217 01:44:03.159 --> 01:44:06.640 leading edge of the oppression, because first you have to take everything away from 1218 01:44:06.640 --> 01:44:11.640 everybody and do your great reset before you can impose this new system. And 1219 01:44:11.680 --> 01:44:15.000 I think they've got a timeline for this new system of twenty thirty, so 1220 01:44:15.039 --> 01:44:16.199 I think they're going to escalate this pretty quickly. What do you think, 1221 01:44:17.159 --> 01:44:24.800 Yes, I think that that people absolutely need to understand this. Communism has 1222 01:44:25.000 --> 01:44:30.840 nothing to do with communalism. Right, communal we're just sharing, we're happy 1223 01:44:30.920 --> 01:44:38.079 together. We take away private property so there's no exploitation, we're all happy 1224 01:44:38.119 --> 01:44:44.680 together. Communism is all about one thing, control, yes, okay, 1225 01:44:45.079 --> 01:44:53.640 control everything in people's lives, control what you can have, control where you 1226 01:44:53.680 --> 01:44:59.159 can live. And now we're told fifty minutes the city is where we should 1227 01:44:59.239 --> 01:45:03.199 live, what you can you, where you can move during the mouths time. 1228 01:45:03.479 --> 01:45:09.600 They control in such a way that nobody can really move just to visit 1229 01:45:09.680 --> 01:45:15.680 another place, because they give you coupon for food, and the coupan only 1230 01:45:15.720 --> 01:45:18.279 apply to where you live. So if you say I'm going to take three 1231 01:45:18.319 --> 01:45:24.119 months vacation travel around the world the country, you can't do that. First 1232 01:45:24.159 --> 01:45:28.319 off, you have no money, and second you coupon could not apply to 1233 01:45:28.359 --> 01:45:32.479 another city, so you kind of start where you were, and they and 1234 01:45:32.920 --> 01:45:39.199 how many children you can have? Right one before they want to have as 1235 01:45:39.239 --> 01:45:44.479 many as children as possible. They follow Stalin's policy as many, and then 1236 01:45:45.039 --> 01:45:48.000 they change it only have one. You have more, you dragged to houseband 1237 01:45:48.079 --> 01:45:54.640 and forcefully your baby will forcefully abort it. And then what you can say, 1238 01:45:55.359 --> 01:45:59.880 there's no freedom of speech zero, okay. And and if you have 1239 01:46:00.039 --> 01:46:02.520 to praise the party, you have to praise the correctly. If you praise 1240 01:46:02.600 --> 01:46:09.800 the party incorrectly, you're also in trouble. And mostly mostly people pay attention 1241 01:46:10.439 --> 01:46:17.560 what you can think, So that is communism in a nutshell control and so 1242 01:46:17.960 --> 01:46:24.680 you so people think, do you know that, uh, that what you're 1243 01:46:24.720 --> 01:46:28.119 told was live when you were you know, in the school. How do 1244 01:46:28.239 --> 01:46:31.880 I know? I have no idea because all the information was controlled. I 1245 01:46:31.960 --> 01:46:36.279 have no idea to compare to anything. Right, It's just one version of 1246 01:46:36.319 --> 01:46:43.359 everything, one version of truth and UH and it's from the party and UH 1247 01:46:43.399 --> 01:46:46.840 and and the one source of information that's from the uh, the party media 1248 01:46:47.079 --> 01:46:51.760 or from the school. Everything is controlled by And so when you have no 1249 01:46:51.920 --> 01:46:58.680 other information, you can't think. You cannot think critically without access to information. 1250 01:46:59.479 --> 01:47:02.039 And that's why are start working so hard on censorship now. It is 1251 01:47:02.520 --> 01:47:06.760 it is a very insidious program. And of course it's interesting when we talk 1252 01:47:06.800 --> 01:47:13.399 about the one child policy because you know, what what China has done is 1253 01:47:13.479 --> 01:47:17.800 that they've aligned themselves with this globalist climate movement, and the globalist climate movement 1254 01:47:18.119 --> 01:47:26.319 is is a perfect fit, a perfect rationale for them to institute communism. 1255 01:47:26.720 --> 01:47:30.479 You know. One of the clips that I've played several times is justin Trudeau, 1256 01:47:30.520 --> 01:47:33.159 he was asked, what's your favorite country in the world besides of course 1257 01:47:33.239 --> 01:47:36.800 Canada, and he says, China. Because I could tell everybody what to 1258 01:47:36.840 --> 01:47:42.640 do to save the environment. That's exactly what this is all about. They 1259 01:47:42.720 --> 01:47:45.680 have a rationale to tell everybody what to do, and they're going to control 1260 01:47:45.800 --> 01:47:50.359 everything in our lives on the basis of that, including how many kids we 1261 01:47:50.399 --> 01:47:55.960 have. And of course the whole climate and environmental movement was born out of 1262 01:47:56.079 --> 01:48:00.479 depopulation and the idea that humans are a virus and we've got to reduce humanity, 1263 01:48:00.920 --> 01:48:06.359 which is exactly what Stalin and Mao wanted to do with their starvation programs. 1264 01:48:06.399 --> 01:48:10.720 You know, there's too many people here to control, so let's reduce 1265 01:48:10.800 --> 01:48:15.239 the number of people here and let and as I reduced them and devastate the 1266 01:48:15.279 --> 01:48:20.199 population in my country, I can show my authority and establish myself as the 1267 01:48:20.560 --> 01:48:27.079 you know, the dread authority in this particular country. It's amazing how they 1268 01:48:27.159 --> 01:48:32.199 have followed through to the letter all of these same policies, and it's all 1269 01:48:32.479 --> 01:48:35.239 it's a plan that's just rolling out to us. And also, you know 1270 01:48:35.279 --> 01:48:41.520 what's happening in China now right They ran out of cheap labor. They are 1271 01:48:41.760 --> 01:48:49.840 in deep, deep trouble and the population is so aged and they really the 1272 01:48:49.840 --> 01:48:57.199 future is diary. And then you know what the party said you should have 1273 01:48:57.279 --> 01:49:02.960 three and see that that is worse than depopulation. In the very beginning, 1274 01:49:03.039 --> 01:49:12.600 Stallin encouraged first after the Second World War, right, they have like award 1275 01:49:12.720 --> 01:49:15.960 to mother who have nine children, ten children. Amol did the same thing. 1276 01:49:16.159 --> 01:49:23.119 So they control everything according to their needs. So now they ask people 1277 01:49:23.159 --> 01:49:27.159 to have three. Well, that's not that easy. You just ask and 1278 01:49:27.239 --> 01:49:30.720 people just have three. But they started with party members. Party members, 1279 01:49:30.840 --> 01:49:36.439 if you want promotion, you were required to have three children. Wow, 1280 01:49:36.560 --> 01:49:42.960 well that's communism through of everything. Just fliip the switch and now we're going 1281 01:49:43.000 --> 01:49:46.640 to do something completely different. And so did you have any experience when you 1282 01:49:46.680 --> 01:49:51.119 were when you were there in terms of Christian persecution, the underground church that 1283 01:49:51.159 --> 01:49:56.520 is there, I know that's uh. I had no idea what Christianity was. 1284 01:49:57.319 --> 01:50:02.159 That's the truth. And so no idea because religion removed out of our 1285 01:50:02.199 --> 01:50:09.399 lives. The only thing that you know in China, the largest religion is 1286 01:50:09.479 --> 01:50:14.800 Buddhism has been Buddhism. Okay, so they are temples and even though some 1287 01:50:14.880 --> 01:50:18.359 of them were destroyed, but there are still some in the city and so 1288 01:50:18.399 --> 01:50:25.479 but they turned into parks. So growing up, I go into this so 1289 01:50:25.600 --> 01:50:29.359 called Buddhist parks, so I know there's such a thing. And then we're 1290 01:50:29.399 --> 01:50:35.920 told they're all superstitious and uh, and it's all backward and primitive. So 1291 01:50:36.359 --> 01:50:39.800 I just go there and look at the Buddha. I'm just thinking, that's 1292 01:50:39.880 --> 01:50:45.000 just so stupid they make a statue like that. So religion was absent in 1293 01:50:45.079 --> 01:50:48.840 our lives, and of course I know better. We had a religion that's 1294 01:50:48.840 --> 01:50:54.079 Communism, and we have a god that's Mauth, and we had our Bible, 1295 01:50:54.159 --> 01:50:59.720 that's the most read little book, right, but only in the early 1296 01:51:00.079 --> 01:51:05.359 eighties. And so I was working in the university in a college for training 1297 01:51:06.800 --> 01:51:13.159 school teachers, and then Americans started coming in and they want to see churches, 1298 01:51:14.039 --> 01:51:18.600 and so by then some of them started to open, and I was 1299 01:51:18.760 --> 01:51:25.640 shocked to find there is a building that I passed through their countless times was 1300 01:51:25.680 --> 01:51:30.399 a church. And so I took them there, the American teachers, and 1301 01:51:30.439 --> 01:51:38.560 there I met a young young guy and so he said they he was like, 1302 01:51:38.600 --> 01:51:41.840 you know, I was twenty in my early twenties and he was two. 1303 01:51:42.319 --> 01:51:47.479 So he said he was Christian and because his parents have passed it down 1304 01:51:47.520 --> 01:51:51.359 to them, they just do it at home. I was like, really, 1305 01:51:51.479 --> 01:51:55.880 I have no clue. I really had no clue that there were such 1306 01:51:56.800 --> 01:52:00.920 things that in China there was among us, there are some underground Christians. 1307 01:52:01.239 --> 01:52:05.359 So of course later you know, it opened up a little more, and 1308 01:52:05.840 --> 01:52:10.720 in the nineties and early two thousand, but now you know it's crashing. 1309 01:52:11.199 --> 01:52:17.119 Then they're closing churches, and the churches that are not closed become the party 1310 01:52:17.239 --> 01:52:20.760 churches. Yes, and if you go to some of the churches in the 1311 01:52:20.880 --> 01:52:26.920 in the order, it's a mouse portrait and she in pins portrait. Yes, 1312 01:52:26.960 --> 01:52:29.680 and next to the cross. I've talked about that many times, said, 1313 01:52:29.680 --> 01:52:30.880 if you're going to put up across, you've got to put me on 1314 01:52:30.880 --> 01:52:34.399 one side and on the other side. And I said, did they realize 1315 01:52:34.439 --> 01:52:40.039 that they've got Jesus and the two thieves on either side? I know. 1316 01:52:40.159 --> 01:52:44.560 But so if you today, if you go to China, you can still 1317 01:52:44.600 --> 01:52:48.479 go church. There's still some open. Those are CCP Church, Ccpeace Church. 1318 01:52:48.640 --> 01:52:53.600 Yes, the real church is underground. And later after I came out, 1319 01:52:53.960 --> 01:52:59.560 I met more people who were part of that underground church. So yeah, 1320 01:53:00.159 --> 01:53:02.119 church they called the Church of the Three Person's Self or something like that. 1321 01:53:02.239 --> 01:53:05.520 Don't isn't it something like that. This. Yeah, the three self 1322 01:53:05.760 --> 01:53:12.840 was a policy that installed earlier on and you know basically they are going to 1323 01:53:12.880 --> 01:53:19.600 make church Chinese church, you know, and not even Chinese church a CCPs 1324 01:53:19.720 --> 01:53:23.840 church. Yes, yes, So if you go to today, if you 1325 01:53:23.880 --> 01:53:30.199 go to I went actually I checked the Association for Buddhism in China, Christianity, 1326 01:53:30.279 --> 01:53:33.800 Catholic whatever. If you go to their website, the lending page is 1327 01:53:33.880 --> 01:53:41.680 the support the Communist Party, the support socialism, the support forget it. 1328 01:53:42.159 --> 01:53:45.760 You know, they're not They're not really independent. And you find that, 1329 01:53:45.800 --> 01:53:48.359 you know, what they started doing, even the churches that were doing that, 1330 01:53:48.439 --> 01:53:53.760 you know, trying to balance grape to the Communist Party. Uh, 1331 01:53:53.840 --> 01:53:56.159 they would then come in and tear them down anyway, you know. I 1332 01:53:56.159 --> 01:53:59.680 mean it's just you know, it depends on what their women is. I 1333 01:53:59.680 --> 01:54:01.880 remember. But when we were there, we were there for a couple of 1334 01:54:01.880 --> 01:54:05.840 weeks, and then as we went south into Hong Kong and were on the 1335 01:54:05.840 --> 01:54:09.600 train, I saw it crosses for the first time. It's like, you 1336 01:54:09.640 --> 01:54:11.880 know, I hadn't thought about that. I hadn't seen any churches or any 1337 01:54:11.880 --> 01:54:14.760 crosses or anything like that the whole time we were there in China. You 1338 01:54:14.800 --> 01:54:18.399 know, it's all underground, but it's pretty big underground from all reports, 1339 01:54:19.039 --> 01:54:26.079 because that kind of persecution really grows a church, and it grows real strong 1340 01:54:26.359 --> 01:54:32.520 church members who who they're They're not going to be coming for the ice cream 1341 01:54:32.560 --> 01:54:36.760 social, that's just the way they're there for because they're really serious about it. 1342 01:54:38.000 --> 01:54:41.520 Well I tell you this, so yes, yeah, that's another thing 1343 01:54:41.560 --> 01:54:46.920 people should should know. On the Communism, there's absolutely no freedom for religion 1344 01:54:47.079 --> 01:54:51.800 or faith. Yeah. Well, I think they're right to understand that the 1345 01:54:51.880 --> 01:54:58.520 church is their enemy because I think that is the most effective guerrilla organization to 1346 01:54:58.560 --> 01:55:03.159 oppose this kind of authoritari isn't. Christianity was the roots of our liberal society 1347 01:55:03.199 --> 01:55:06.399 in the West, and it's going to be the way that they're going to 1348 01:55:06.479 --> 01:55:11.119 uproot the Communists from the ground up, I think in that country. But 1349 01:55:11.159 --> 01:55:14.000 you know, when you're talking about the fact that even they wanted to control 1350 01:55:14.560 --> 01:55:18.760 what you think that was when Rod Dryer was talking to people who had come 1351 01:55:18.800 --> 01:55:23.960 from Russia and places like that, and and in the tradition of Selsey Knitsen, 1352 01:55:23.960 --> 01:55:29.920 he actually named his book Live Not by Lies because that was an essay 1353 01:55:29.920 --> 01:55:32.119 by Solsy knits and that's what they want you to do. They want you 1354 01:55:32.359 --> 01:55:36.439 to as you point out, they as a child, you're given one source 1355 01:55:36.479 --> 01:55:40.640 of information. That's just the way that it is, and so you just 1356 01:55:41.079 --> 01:55:45.159 go with that. But for the other people, and if you come up 1357 01:55:45.199 --> 01:55:47.000 with eventually, they're going to come to you and tell you that they want 1358 01:55:47.039 --> 01:55:51.720 you to repeat two plus two equals five. And if you don't believe it, 1359 01:55:51.920 --> 01:55:57.720 yes, exactly. And so that's the thing. It's about breaking your 1360 01:55:57.760 --> 01:56:00.319 will to eventually come in. And I think I think that's another aspect of 1361 01:56:00.359 --> 01:56:03.920 what we see with this gender stuff. You know, you have to regardless 1362 01:56:03.920 --> 01:56:09.399 of what you actually see or know or whatever, you've got to deny that 1363 01:56:09.680 --> 01:56:14.239 and go with what they say is real. And so that's the key thing, 1364 01:56:14.439 --> 01:56:16.800 you know, And that was one thing that the souls Knitsen saw that 1365 01:56:17.039 --> 01:56:24.199 it is the common thing amongst all these different tutalitarian societies is that ultimately you're 1366 01:56:24.199 --> 01:56:28.960 going to have to bend your what you know is true is going to have 1367 01:56:29.000 --> 01:56:31.720 to be bent to what they want you to say, just as a power 1368 01:56:31.880 --> 01:56:35.560 exercise. And we see that happening now in the United States. And that's 1369 01:56:35.600 --> 01:56:39.720 why it's so important for people to say Nope, not going to go there. 1370 01:56:39.800 --> 01:56:43.039 And to understand where this all, all of this is coming from, 1371 01:56:43.119 --> 01:56:47.119 all of these things, as you point out Mau's America warning America of the 1372 01:56:47.159 --> 01:56:51.560 fact that this is a plan, it is an agenda. They've executed this 1373 01:56:51.600 --> 01:56:55.640 plan, and it's going to be so much worse for us because now they 1374 01:56:55.680 --> 01:57:01.079 have the leverage of technology. And also this morning, I watched a clip 1375 01:57:01.560 --> 01:57:11.880 of the interview of by this guy George he used to be the Clinton's advisor 1376 01:57:12.479 --> 01:57:19.720 a Greek claim I can't remember right now, George whatever clapless Yes, and 1377 01:57:19.800 --> 01:57:26.920 an interview a congress member, and and he just keeps doing that. Can 1378 01:57:27.000 --> 01:57:32.399 you can you say that twenty twenty election it's not stolen? And then when 1379 01:57:32.439 --> 01:57:35.239 he was talking about something, he bring it back, He bring it back, 1380 01:57:35.399 --> 01:57:39.760 he bring it back. Can you say yes or no it is stolen. 1381 01:57:40.279 --> 01:57:45.079 That's exact the same tactic a woman. Can you say this man is 1382 01:57:45.439 --> 01:57:49.840 in uh standing in front of you that he is a woman. You have 1383 01:57:49.880 --> 01:57:54.319 to say it. Can you say it say it now? Same? Same. 1384 01:57:55.000 --> 01:57:58.199 It's a struggle session, isn't it. Well, yeah, it is 1385 01:57:58.239 --> 01:58:01.319 time for us to struggle against these people. And you have to people need 1386 01:58:01.359 --> 01:58:04.279 to understand. That's why your book is so important. People need to understand 1387 01:58:04.359 --> 01:58:08.880 the tactics. This is nothing new, there's nothing new under the sun. 1388 01:58:09.600 --> 01:58:12.000 You know. Solomon was wise enough to say that. And of course this 1389 01:58:12.079 --> 01:58:15.479 kind of stuff has been going around forever, but it has been honed into 1390 01:58:15.640 --> 01:58:21.279 a fine tactic of psychological manipulation by the communist And now what they're going to 1391 01:58:21.319 --> 01:58:27.199 do worldwide is take that tactic, that agenda that you lay out here that 1392 01:58:27.279 --> 01:58:30.960 Mao did, and they're going to wed it to modern technology to give them 1393 01:58:30.960 --> 01:58:35.359 more leverage on people. I think, just realize they have established the truths 1394 01:58:35.640 --> 01:58:42.399 right, the climate is changing and they're going to destroy the earth if we 1395 01:58:42.439 --> 01:58:45.600 don't do anything otherwise, you're a denier, denied deniers. And that is 1396 01:58:46.479 --> 01:58:50.960 exactly what Mao did. One truth and everyone has to go by it. 1397 01:58:51.319 --> 01:58:56.960 And if you question it, your enemy of the state. Yeah that's right. 1398 01:58:57.319 --> 01:58:59.840 Yeah, we see that over and over again. It is so important 1399 01:58:59.840 --> 01:59:03.560 for people to see this again. The book is Mao's America, a Survivor's 1400 01:59:03.560 --> 01:59:06.760 Warning. The best place to get that anywhere the books are sold or do 1401 01:59:06.760 --> 01:59:12.000 you have a website that you'd like to that you saw that directly. Yeah, 1402 01:59:12.000 --> 01:59:13.680 I don't. It gets you a little bit more money. So I 1403 01:59:13.720 --> 01:59:17.239 always want to offer that to authors because I know that they make a little 1404 01:59:17.239 --> 01:59:20.800 bit more money if they sell it direct. But again, Amazon, anywhere 1405 01:59:20.840 --> 01:59:27.000 that books are sold. Mao's America a Survivor's Warning very important. Thank you 1406 01:59:27.039 --> 01:59:30.920 so much for speaking out about this and telling people this and speaking out and 1407 01:59:31.079 --> 01:59:35.439 these, you know, the beginning of the struggle sessions that are there. 1408 01:59:35.479 --> 01:59:41.840 Thank you so much for a message that is so needed and a historical context 1409 01:59:41.880 --> 01:59:45.239 and perspective that is so missing in America that people can find in your book. 1410 01:59:45.239 --> 01:59:49.039 Thank you very much. Thank you, Thank you, she Van Fleet, 1411 01:59:49.079 --> 01:59:50.960 thank you very much. We'll take a quick break, folks, and 1412 01:59:51.000 --> 02:01:30.560 we will be right back. Stay with us. You're listening to the David 1413 02:01:30.640 --> 02:01:39.119 Knight Show. Sometimes your day needs a little smoothing. 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I think at 1432 02:03:50.600 --> 02:03:55.520 World Affairs brief dot com. He's got a lot of books to tell you 1433 02:03:56.039 --> 02:04:00.279 where to select a strategic location to live in the United states to which is 1434 02:04:00.319 --> 02:04:02.920 getting more and more important. He's been doing this for quite a while. 1435 02:04:03.079 --> 02:04:06.439 How to build a secure house and many other things. You can find those 1436 02:04:06.479 --> 02:04:10.920 books at Joelscousen dot com. Thank you for joining us, Joel. Good 1437 02:04:10.960 --> 02:04:14.479 to talk to you. David is always good to be with you. Thank 1438 02:04:14.520 --> 02:04:17.880 you. We're living in interesting times, aren't we. As we were discussing 1439 02:04:17.920 --> 02:04:21.039 briefly, and as we're getting you put on here, he said, while 1440 02:04:21.239 --> 02:04:25.680 we look at what is going on in the House historical day, as we 1441 02:04:25.760 --> 02:04:29.319 have the speaker for the first time thrown out Speaker of the House, first 1442 02:04:29.319 --> 02:04:32.479 time that's been that's happened. What's your take on all that? Well, 1443 02:04:32.479 --> 02:04:36.359 and for a very good reason, you know, the only reason he got 1444 02:04:36.399 --> 02:04:42.399 to be speaker after fifteen votes was that he made some very specific promises to 1445 02:04:42.439 --> 02:04:47.560 the Freedom Caucus and especially the hardline conservatives as part of that caucus there aren't 1446 02:04:47.640 --> 02:04:54.800 totally unified. But he broke those promises in the April deal with President Biden, 1447 02:04:54.880 --> 02:05:00.920 where he passed that on the spending bill which was way over budget and 1448 02:05:00.760 --> 02:05:06.760 didn't consult the conservatives, and so basically Matt Gates as leader of the hardliners 1449 02:05:06.760 --> 02:05:11.800 and the Freedom Kacas said if you don't stop this, if you do it 1450 02:05:11.840 --> 02:05:14.560 again, we're going to oust you a speaker. And he did it again. 1451 02:05:15.520 --> 02:05:19.880 And Matt Gates in his press conference wasn't a formal press conference. He 1452 02:05:19.960 --> 02:05:25.600 just gets besieged by the press as he leads the House chambers. And after 1453 02:05:25.680 --> 02:05:31.840 his our debate with the Chamber on the motion to vacate the chair, he 1454 02:05:31.880 --> 02:05:36.960 outlined very specifically again as he did before the House, why he is voting 1455 02:05:36.960 --> 02:05:42.239 to vacate the chair. Number one, Well, in general, he's talking 1456 02:05:42.239 --> 02:05:46.079 about violations of the regular order of the House. The regular order of the 1457 02:05:46.079 --> 02:05:53.279 House is that you have the twelve bills appropriation bills passed through committee, and 1458 02:05:53.319 --> 02:05:57.000 then you have debate, and then you have amendments, so you allow amendments 1459 02:05:57.000 --> 02:06:00.760 to those bills, and then you pass them into dividually. And he was 1460 02:06:00.880 --> 02:06:04.880 complaining because they were running behind schedule. McCarthy wasn't in a hurry to get 1461 02:06:04.880 --> 02:06:12.439 this thing done, and Gates requested that he canceled the August recess. He 1462 02:06:12.479 --> 02:06:15.479 said, we don't have time for six weeks to take off. We've got 1463 02:06:15.520 --> 02:06:18.039 a deadline September. We've got a lot of hard knocks to go through. 1464 02:06:18.079 --> 02:06:24.039 This, McCarthy didn't do it. He allowed the recess to go forward. 1465 02:06:24.079 --> 02:06:29.600 He also has instilled a four day work week. A four day work week 1466 02:06:29.640 --> 02:06:33.039 when you're talking about a huge backlog of an appropriations bill, and that means 1467 02:06:33.079 --> 02:06:40.399 they start at six pm on Monday and they quit on Friday, and that's 1468 02:06:40.479 --> 02:06:44.640 essentially a four day work week. And Gates was complaining about that. But 1469 02:06:44.720 --> 02:06:49.600 here's the specifics. McCarthy promised that he would never be a bill presented to 1470 02:06:49.640 --> 02:06:54.880 the House over one hundred million dollars without the possibility of amendments, and he 1471 02:06:54.960 --> 02:06:59.960 violated that on numerous occasions, refusing to allow amendments. He said he would 1472 02:07:00.000 --> 02:07:02.920 you never use the Democrats to provide a majority over the wishes of the GOP 1473 02:07:03.079 --> 02:07:06.600 majority. If he did that on the Ukraine funding bill, he passed that 1474 02:07:08.600 --> 02:07:13.720 with the majority of Democrats voting with the minority of Republicans to pass the Ukraine 1475 02:07:13.760 --> 02:07:19.279 funding bill, which didn't make it out obviously into the main bill. And 1476 02:07:21.119 --> 02:07:30.079 McCarthy created also a secret side deal with Biden over a separate Ukraine spending bill 1477 02:07:30.159 --> 02:07:31.760 that would be done. And it basically says, you know, both these 1478 02:07:31.800 --> 02:07:35.760 border tightening regulations and the Ukraine spending need to be a separate bill. You 1479 02:07:35.760 --> 02:07:41.279 don't want to put these in an omnious bill. They're very controversial and they 1480 02:07:41.359 --> 02:07:45.439 need to have an up or down vote from everybody on those two specific issues. 1481 02:07:45.279 --> 02:07:49.920 And this goes to the problem of the omnimous bill, where you lump 1482 02:07:49.960 --> 02:07:55.319 everything together and then you make everybody vote yes or no on the entire bill. 1483 02:07:56.439 --> 02:08:00.319 And so if you want to you know, anything at all, and 1484 02:08:00.359 --> 02:08:03.840 you're a jenda, you've got to vote for the whole package. So those 1485 02:08:03.840 --> 02:08:09.039 are very bad. But in any case, there were seven or eight total 1486 02:08:09.239 --> 02:08:15.079 Republicans that voted to Alice McCarthy, and they got their way. I was 1487 02:08:15.119 --> 02:08:18.960 surprised that McCarthy said I'm not going to run for speaker again. Before he 1488 02:08:20.119 --> 02:08:28.239 left the speakership. He appointed Pat McHenry of South Carolina to be the Speaker 1489 02:08:28.319 --> 02:08:33.520 pro tem and of course he's a puppet to McCarthy, and he immediately said, 1490 02:08:33.560 --> 02:08:35.560 well, we're not even going to vote for the next speaker until October 1491 02:08:35.600 --> 02:08:41.560 eleventh, which is a full week away. I played a clip of McHenry. 1492 02:08:41.600 --> 02:08:46.000 He was really trying to break the gobble when he's lammed. I don't 1493 02:08:46.000 --> 02:08:46.640 know if he saw the picture of him, and he says, well, 1494 02:08:46.640 --> 02:08:50.159 a lot of jerms and he goes with all his might trying to hit that 1495 02:08:50.199 --> 02:08:52.680 thing. He was pretty angry about that. I'm sorry, go ahead. 1496 02:08:54.479 --> 02:08:56.920 Well, the Gates was very unhappy about that. He said, you know, 1497 02:08:58.520 --> 02:09:01.520 we don't have time. We've got a put them together another bill and 1498 02:09:01.600 --> 02:09:05.920 resolve. This thing is by November seventeenth, when this continuing resolution ends, 1499 02:09:05.640 --> 02:09:07.720 and so he said, you know, we've got to go to work right 1500 02:09:07.760 --> 02:09:13.159 now. We need to have the election this week. Gates is suggesting Steve 1501 02:09:13.319 --> 02:09:18.399 scalise as, who is the GOP majority leader in the House right now, 1502 02:09:18.520 --> 02:09:24.279 as the replacement for McCarthy. I think Jim Jordan, although he was opposed 1503 02:09:24.319 --> 02:09:30.439 to this vacating the speakership, and he's kind of happy with McCarthy because McCarthy, 1504 02:09:31.000 --> 02:09:33.680 true to his word, he did give conservatives major positions on the committees. 1505 02:09:33.960 --> 02:09:39.039 But that's about all that McCarthy did is gives conservatives major positions. So 1506 02:09:39.159 --> 02:09:45.159 Jordan was head of the Judiciary Committee, very powerful committee right now relative to 1507 02:09:45.199 --> 02:09:50.479 the impeachment of Joe Biden or the impeachment investigation. But he's still I believe 1508 02:09:50.479 --> 02:09:54.680 would be a good speaker as well as Steve Scalise. Well, it's going 1509 02:09:54.720 --> 02:09:58.119 to be interesting to see what happens. And again wall Street's take on this 1510 02:09:58.279 --> 02:10:01.319 is that it increased, says the change that there's going to be a shutdown 1511 02:10:01.359 --> 02:10:07.119 in November, but you know, maybe it won't be quite as long, 1512 02:10:07.199 --> 02:10:09.079 you know, more than two or three weeks, but they think it will 1513 02:10:09.119 --> 02:10:13.760 happen now because of the delays that will be involved with this. But you 1514 02:10:13.800 --> 02:10:18.640 know, I talked about this earlier Joel, and I was looking at I 1515 02:10:18.640 --> 02:10:22.880 had a little bit different take on it because of what Thomas Massey said. 1516 02:10:22.920 --> 02:10:26.680 I played the clip for people what Thomas Massey said there. He is part 1517 02:10:26.720 --> 02:10:33.119 of that team that negotiated regular order with McCarthy as a condition of his speakership, 1518 02:10:33.119 --> 02:10:35.439 and he said, look, I voted to I'm the only person here 1519 02:10:35.560 --> 02:10:39.479 who voted to remove Bayner, who voted to remove Ryan. He says, 1520 02:10:39.479 --> 02:10:43.960 I'm not voting to remove him because we did get back regular order to a 1521 02:10:45.000 --> 02:10:46.199 greater degree. Said yeah, we got a lot of things happened that we 1522 02:10:46.199 --> 02:10:50.199 don't like here, but you know, you'd had the situation with Pelosi and 1523 02:10:50.279 --> 02:10:58.159 Bayner and others who had put in these omnibus bills and ran everything from centralized 1524 02:10:58.159 --> 02:11:01.479 to speakership through a very lightly controlled committees, and people are not allowed to 1525 02:11:01.479 --> 02:11:07.119 make amendments from the floor, basically shutting down the rules of order, Roberts 1526 02:11:07.199 --> 02:11:09.600 rules of order, whatever, you know, the regular order that would allow 1527 02:11:09.600 --> 02:11:13.680 people to participate in it. The whole thing was tightly and centrally controlled. 1528 02:11:13.079 --> 02:11:16.880 And that was the key sticking point, I think, and all that. 1529 02:11:16.960 --> 02:11:22.279 And he felt like things had improved in that direction and they keep going in 1530 02:11:22.279 --> 02:11:26.359 that direction. But you're right, it now has turned this whole thing into 1531 02:11:26.479 --> 02:11:31.520 turmoil. And you know, Chip Roy had had pushed very hard for that, 1532 02:11:31.600 --> 02:11:35.199 Thomas Massey had pushed very hard for that, and I you know, 1533 02:11:35.319 --> 02:11:39.920 they both voted to keep him in at this point in time. But of 1534 02:11:39.960 --> 02:11:43.840 course we have Nuke Gingrich now very upset about this. And I played a 1535 02:11:43.880 --> 02:11:46.560 clip for people just to remind them where Nuke gingridg has been. It was. 1536 02:11:48.159 --> 02:11:50.359 It was a political ad that was done by Ron Paul back in twenty 1537 02:11:50.399 --> 02:11:54.960 eleven when both of them were running for the GOP nomination, really kind of 1538 02:11:54.960 --> 02:12:00.720 defining what a flip flopping snake new Gingrit and his point, as he said, 1539 02:12:00.800 --> 02:12:03.039 Dwell, you know, we've got these rules, and so Matt Gates 1540 02:12:03.079 --> 02:12:07.399 needs to be kicked out forget about what the people thought who elected him. 1541 02:12:07.039 --> 02:12:11.279 He has violated the Republican Party rules, the rules of Republican Conference, and 1542 02:12:11.279 --> 02:12:15.359 we need to kick him out of Congress for doing that. What do you 1543 02:12:15.359 --> 02:12:18.760 think about that? And what do you think about what Thomas Massey had to 1544 02:12:18.760 --> 02:12:24.079 say? Well, you know, I have a good deal of respect for 1545 02:12:24.239 --> 02:12:28.920 Jim Jordan and Thomas Massey and Chick Roy too. They are voting in fact 1546 02:12:28.960 --> 02:12:33.600 for the fact that they did get good committee assignments on this and that McCarthy 1547 02:12:33.640 --> 02:12:37.520 did come their way. But my response to Massey would be, but remember 1548 02:12:37.560 --> 02:12:41.840 he only came your way in terms of allowing amendments or allowing the regular order 1549 02:12:43.239 --> 02:12:48.000 on easy things. On all the things that were the tough issues, he 1550 02:12:48.039 --> 02:12:52.560 went over to the Democrats. So he betrayed you on all the crucial issues 1551 02:12:52.600 --> 02:12:56.640 and only gave you the easy stuff which you didn't really need, you know, 1552 02:12:56.800 --> 02:13:01.319 and well you need it, of course, but they weren't the crucial 1553 02:13:01.359 --> 02:13:07.119 things that are sticking points like border regulations in the Ukraine vote, etc. 1554 02:13:09.640 --> 02:13:11.840 But you know, New Gingrich is really a snake in the grass. He's 1555 02:13:11.880 --> 02:13:16.960 a globalist, I believe. You know, he got elected with his what 1556 02:13:18.079 --> 02:13:20.600 was a contract for America, and I think it was a contract on America 1557 02:13:20.640 --> 02:13:24.159 basically. And as soon as he was elected, the first thing he did, 1558 02:13:24.680 --> 02:13:28.319 did he pass anything on the contract with him? And not a thing? 1559 02:13:28.520 --> 02:13:33.640 He went the World Trade Acceptance of China, red China into the World 1560 02:13:33.640 --> 02:13:37.880 Trade Organization WTO. That was his first issue. It was a total globalist 1561 02:13:37.960 --> 02:13:43.239 sellout right from the get go. And you know, he has played both 1562 02:13:43.239 --> 02:13:48.600 sides of this issue. He's really a very slick operator. So he has 1563 02:13:48.720 --> 02:13:54.720 called for Matt Gates to be removed from the Republican Conference, which is the 1564 02:13:54.800 --> 02:13:58.680 conference which decides a lot of these issues, etc. Now I'm not a 1565 02:13:58.720 --> 02:14:03.479 big fan of Matt Gates in terms of his moral conduct. He is a 1566 02:14:03.479 --> 02:14:09.359 party guy, and I don't think he's been necessarily moral in his you know 1567 02:14:09.520 --> 02:14:16.720 conduct. But he's really a good debater. He is a person who really 1568 02:14:16.800 --> 02:14:20.960 laid down the issues to the press as clearly as anybody on the violations Arty, 1569 02:14:22.880 --> 02:14:26.560 and you know, to remove him would be I think a big mistake. 1570 02:14:26.960 --> 02:14:28.920 We need somebody would be a big right out there. I think it'd 1571 02:14:28.920 --> 02:14:33.119 be a big mistake to violate. It's as well, you know, we 1572 02:14:33.119 --> 02:14:35.479 don't like him in the party, so I don't really care what the voters 1573 02:14:35.520 --> 02:14:39.279 think. I mean that the biggest mistake of it interest in terms of a 1574 02:14:39.399 --> 02:14:43.800 precedent, that they'd be setting to remove him for that. Yeah, well, 1575 02:14:43.119 --> 02:14:46.800 you know, they are having an ethics committee, and this was kind 1576 02:14:46.800 --> 02:14:50.159 of McCarthy's threat over his head. It's interesting that McCarthy said after he was 1577 02:14:50.960 --> 02:14:56.479 Gates said I'm going to put in a resolution to vacate the chair. He 1578 02:14:56.520 --> 02:14:58.439 said, well, go ahead and try it. You know, just McCarthy 1579 02:14:58.520 --> 02:15:01.880 was defiant, and he really didn't think of it passed. I thought perhaps, 1580 02:15:01.960 --> 02:15:05.000 you know, maybe even the Democrats would come to the rescue of McCarthy 1581 02:15:05.039 --> 02:15:09.319 because he'd been so helpful to them. But I think they voted in favor 1582 02:15:09.359 --> 02:15:18.239 of watching the Republicans be in disarray rather than rescue somebody who really was helping 1583 02:15:18.279 --> 02:15:20.479 them. Now they're not going to get someone as bad as McCarthy, I 1584 02:15:20.520 --> 02:15:24.760 believe, and I think they're going to have to go to someone who is 1585 02:15:24.800 --> 02:15:28.319 a little bit more to the right, or they're not going to, you 1586 02:15:28.359 --> 02:15:33.159 know, get elected. These eight people can stop anybody from getting to be 1587 02:15:33.239 --> 02:15:39.079 speaker unless the Democrats want to throw in with the liberal Republicans and really get 1588 02:15:39.119 --> 02:15:43.279 a very bad person in there. So it'll be interesting to see what happens. 1589 02:15:43.319 --> 02:15:46.560 Did you point out the ethics issues that Gates has, and then of 1590 02:15:46.600 --> 02:15:50.399 course, you know George Santos has got huge ethics issues, and McCarthy was 1591 02:15:50.560 --> 02:15:56.000 absolutely supportive of George Santos, So it'd be interesting to see what happens with 1592 02:15:56.039 --> 02:16:00.479 that. I think one of the things that really surprised me was, as 1593 02:16:00.479 --> 02:16:03.520 you point out, McCarthy said to Gates, he said, go ahead, 1594 02:16:03.560 --> 02:16:05.640 bring it on. So I thought, well, okay, he knows what's 1595 02:16:05.680 --> 02:16:09.399 going on, he's going to he's going to win this thing. His inability 1596 02:16:09.920 --> 02:16:11.920 to read the room, you know, I mean, how do you How 1597 02:16:11.920 --> 02:16:16.159 are you that clueless as a speaker that you don't know if you got the 1598 02:16:16.239 --> 02:16:20.920 votes for something like this. I mean, but maybe he's just you know, 1599 02:16:20.920 --> 02:16:24.640 it's just bravado. But that was one of the key things to me, 1600 02:16:24.399 --> 02:16:28.399 going back to a new Gingrich's contract with America. I remember that thing 1601 02:16:28.439 --> 02:16:31.600 ten point program, you know, Joel. I ran for Congress the next 1602 02:16:31.600 --> 02:16:37.840 election in ninety six, and my central theme was I said, I've got 1603 02:16:37.840 --> 02:16:41.799 a contract with America. It's called the Bill of Rights, and here's how 1604 02:16:41.840 --> 02:16:46.959 its being his ten point It's a ten point solution to what our government is 1605 02:16:46.040 --> 02:16:48.719 right now. And I said, here's how's to been violating every one of 1606 02:16:48.719 --> 02:16:52.399 those things. I've made flyers of that, but that was my campaign to 1607 02:16:52.520 --> 02:16:58.559 run for the Contract with America. At the Bill of Rights. What district 1608 02:16:58.559 --> 02:17:03.799 did you run? It was in North Carolina and it was in the Charlotte 1609 02:17:03.799 --> 02:17:05.799 District. So I did that back and I think it was nine. I 1610 02:17:05.879 --> 02:17:07.840 think it wasn't where I live. But you know, you don't have to 1611 02:17:07.840 --> 02:17:11.399 live in the district, you just have to live in the state. And 1612 02:17:11.639 --> 02:17:16.200 I was kind of the sacrificial land for the third party to run there. 1613 02:17:18.040 --> 02:17:20.319 But I was able to get into some debates. But you know, it 1614 02:17:20.399 --> 02:17:22.959 is interesting to see where this is going to go. And I guess the 1615 02:17:22.040 --> 02:17:26.520 key thing is, you know, is there anybody when you look at the 1616 02:17:26.520 --> 02:17:31.040 people that are there. You've got Tom Emmer, You've got Scalise, you 1617 02:17:31.040 --> 02:17:33.479 know, maybe Jim Jordan. I mean, you know, you think it's 1618 02:17:33.520 --> 02:17:37.559 going to be one of the one of those three those seem to be the 1619 02:17:37.680 --> 02:17:41.559 highest profile of course, you know, the majority leader and the whip, 1620 02:17:41.600 --> 02:17:43.639 and then Jim Jordan is always, you know, out front in front of 1621 02:17:43.680 --> 02:17:48.760 the cameras. Who do you think might make it through? Well, I 1622 02:17:48.799 --> 02:17:52.680 think it's either going to be Scalise or Jim Jordan, whether or not Jim 1623 02:17:52.760 --> 02:17:56.440 Jordan will run or not, you know, and lose this position on the 1624 02:17:58.079 --> 02:18:01.520 Judiciary Committee, I have my out. So Steve Cleese is in the prime 1625 02:18:01.559 --> 02:18:07.079 position the mere fact though that Gates wants him. We'll speak against him to 1626 02:18:07.239 --> 02:18:11.479 the people who were very angry with him about this, and there are a 1627 02:18:11.520 --> 02:18:16.920 lot of Republicans that were angry. But I don't think I don't think. 1628 02:18:18.719 --> 02:18:22.680 Yes, it's true that McCarthy would have compromised that them and would have avoided 1629 02:18:22.680 --> 02:18:24.920 to shut down. But as I pointed out many times in the worldfare's grieve. 1630 02:18:26.000 --> 02:18:30.319 We really need to shut down the government in many ways. And you 1631 02:18:30.360 --> 02:18:33.040 know, they don't have to actually close the national parks, they don't have 1632 02:18:33.120 --> 02:18:37.200 to close the passport office, they don't have to do any of the stuff 1633 02:18:37.239 --> 02:18:41.879 that really inconveniences America. Plenty of money coming in constantly to keep those funded. 1634 02:18:41.479 --> 02:18:45.280 But they need to shut down, you know, foreign aid. They 1635 02:18:45.280 --> 02:18:50.639 need to shut down any money going to Ukraine. And you know, I'm 1636 02:18:50.680 --> 02:18:54.959 not against We've talked about on our program before. Because Russia faked their own 1637 02:18:54.000 --> 02:18:58.879 demise and put Ukraine into the boundaries or put the don boss and crime in 1638 02:19:00.239 --> 02:19:03.280 Ukraine to give them an excuse to invade at some future time. I'm not 1639 02:19:03.639 --> 02:19:07.440 in favor of letting Putin get away with that. You know, we need 1640 02:19:07.520 --> 02:19:13.399 to supply arms to keep that Ukraine from falling. But I'm not in favor 1641 02:19:13.440 --> 02:19:16.799 because of the corruption in Ukraine of any further actual funds going to Ukraine, 1642 02:19:16.920 --> 02:19:20.879 whether to pay the salaries of other people or to pay for their deficits. 1643 02:19:20.920 --> 02:19:24.040 You know, no money for Ukraine. It's just too corrupt. This is 1644 02:19:24.079 --> 02:19:28.479 a leftover from the Soviets because when they fake their own demise, they left 1645 02:19:28.479 --> 02:19:33.440 all the communists in the bureaucracy, and that's why they continue to exact bribes. 1646 02:19:33.479 --> 02:19:37.840 That's why you had Boodizmad. All the former presidents of Ukraine have been 1647 02:19:37.879 --> 02:19:43.360 corrupt and you know, secret buddies with the oligarchs in Russia. It's a 1648 02:19:43.440 --> 02:19:48.280 very bad situation. But there's plenty of ways to cut funding. And I 1649 02:19:48.360 --> 02:19:52.559 realized you can't get you can't cut social Security and the welfare thing that they'd 1650 02:19:52.559 --> 02:19:58.719 screen bloody murder. But there's plenty of things that you can cut that don't 1651 02:19:58.799 --> 02:20:03.319 hurt most normal people and keeps the government in limbo while you hammer out these 1652 02:20:03.360 --> 02:20:07.200 things. But we've got to stuff going under it. Yeah, you look 1653 02:20:07.239 --> 02:20:11.760 at you know, the plan that Republicans came up with when Biden says we 1654 02:20:11.879 --> 02:20:16.319 got to get eighty billion dollars more for the IRS, an agency that's now 1655 02:20:16.319 --> 02:20:20.239 getting thirteen billion, and the Republicans said, that's crazy. Only sixty only 1656 02:20:20.280 --> 02:20:22.840 a sixty billion dollars. We won't do it to be you know what, 1657 02:20:24.000 --> 02:20:26.000 is it seven times the size? We'll only make it five times bigger than 1658 02:20:26.000 --> 02:20:30.000 it currently is. And that's the kind of stuff that just makes my head 1659 02:20:30.040 --> 02:20:33.559 spend With Republicans, it's like, what what is the just just a little 1660 02:20:33.600 --> 02:20:37.920 bit less government than the Democrats want to give us. And of course you 1661 02:20:37.920 --> 02:20:41.479 talk about the coruption Ukraine. Even Bill Gates said most corrupt country on Earth. 1662 02:20:41.639 --> 02:20:45.959 The Pentagon is even saying we got so much stuff that's you know, 1663 02:20:45.959 --> 02:20:48.799 we sent to them, that's leaking out everywhere. This is a big problem 1664 02:20:50.239 --> 02:20:52.920 Ukraine. Is getting I mean, the UK is getting tapped out in terms 1665 02:20:54.079 --> 02:20:56.440 of you know, it's a war machine in terms of sending them stuff. 1666 02:20:56.840 --> 02:21:01.000 And this is all highlighting something I think that is an even bigger fundamental problem 1667 02:21:01.440 --> 02:21:07.559 of the West, and that is the erosion of our manufacturing database to the 1668 02:21:07.559 --> 02:21:13.680 extent database, our manufacturing base and infrastructure to the extent that we can't sustain 1669 02:21:13.760 --> 02:21:16.600 some kind of a big war effort. What do you think about that? 1670 02:21:16.639 --> 02:21:20.040 As somebody who follows us much more closely than I do, Well, we 1671 02:21:20.079 --> 02:21:24.719 can certainly ramp up like we did in World War Two and start to produce 1672 02:21:24.760 --> 02:21:28.040 these things. Whether or not there's a will to do that. There usually 1673 02:21:28.120 --> 02:21:31.399 isn't until you get attacked. But you know, with the speed at which 1674 02:21:31.680 --> 02:21:35.559 you know attax and come now was your missiles instead of just ships across the 1675 02:21:35.600 --> 02:21:41.239 sea coming towards you like happened in Pearl Harbor, which of course was provoked 1676 02:21:41.239 --> 02:21:46.319 by Roosevelt. This was a false flag operation if there ever was one. 1677 02:21:46.559 --> 02:21:50.639 But yeah, we have the manufacturing capacity to do that. And I mean 1678 02:21:50.680 --> 02:21:54.319 even in strategic minerals. For example, the inter reasion that China has a 1679 02:21:54.399 --> 02:21:58.040 lock on the minerals is they've undercut the prices we used to produce all the 1680 02:21:58.079 --> 02:22:03.760 strategic minerals in the United States out of Nevada and parts of California. We 1681 02:22:03.879 --> 02:22:07.079 have them all in the United States. They just aren't as economical to produce 1682 02:22:07.840 --> 02:22:11.600 unless China decides to cut it off, and then we could start producing again. 1683 02:22:11.959 --> 02:22:20.040 But I think that both the West and you can come up to speed, 1684 02:22:20.600 --> 02:22:26.520 and they are ramping up, you know, in military production in order 1685 02:22:26.559 --> 02:22:31.239 to provide the arms for Ukraine. The big problem in Ukraine is this triple 1686 02:22:31.319 --> 02:22:37.319 layered defense system that while the Ukrainians were waiting for American tanks to arrive, 1687 02:22:37.000 --> 02:22:41.399 you know, four to six months, the Russians built this three tiered mind 1688 02:22:43.799 --> 02:22:46.760 trend system that is very difficult to penetrate. Now, if they had strategic 1689 02:22:46.840 --> 02:22:52.399 bombing, as the West has the capability, you could obliterate that line. 1690 02:22:52.120 --> 02:22:56.799 You could blow up the entire minefield so that none of you could drive right 1691 02:22:56.799 --> 02:23:01.040 through it. But they don't have strategic bombing. God is artillery and high 1692 02:23:01.040 --> 02:23:05.760 mars and other types of things, so they have to slug it out trying 1693 02:23:05.760 --> 02:23:09.799 to get through that line. And I don't see Ukraine doing that. I 1694 02:23:09.920 --> 02:23:13.520 just don't think you're without strategic bombing that you're going to be able to penetrate 1695 02:23:13.559 --> 02:23:16.559 that line. Now, neither do I see Russia being able to take anything 1696 02:23:16.600 --> 02:23:20.639 more than the don boss of the Crimea. So I think this is a 1697 02:23:20.760 --> 02:23:24.200 war of attrition that's going to go on as long as the West continues to 1698 02:23:24.239 --> 02:23:31.399 provide military arms to keep the artillery and the rockets supplied. I don't think 1699 02:23:31.520 --> 02:23:35.159 Russia can win, and I don't think Ukraine can win. So where this 1700 02:23:35.319 --> 02:23:39.200 is going in the long term, I'm not sure, but I'll tell you 1701 02:23:39.559 --> 02:23:48.000 Conservatives have really been snookered by Putin, who has been putting on a propaganda 1702 02:23:48.079 --> 02:23:52.319 show about being anti LBGT and pro Christian and all these types of things to 1703 02:23:52.360 --> 02:23:58.399 convince an anti New World Order, to convince the West, or at least 1704 02:23:58.440 --> 02:24:01.079 the conservatives in the West, that he's going to save us from our own 1705 02:24:01.159 --> 02:24:05.760 globalist and it isn't true at all. It's just a PRIs treble. Loud 1706 02:24:05.799 --> 02:24:13.040 And has pointed out from New Zealand a very good series of things showing that 1707 02:24:13.200 --> 02:24:20.479 this propaganda move by the continuing Soviets as I called them in Russia, has 1708 02:24:20.520 --> 02:24:26.479 been very effective towards getting conservatives to be pro Russian rather than Yeah, it's 1709 02:24:26.559 --> 02:24:31.319 kind of a kind of a Hegelian pr move because again, you know, 1710 02:24:31.360 --> 02:24:41.000 the West cannot control their contempt for Christian conservative values no matter even though they 1711 02:24:41.040 --> 02:24:45.559 see Putin doing this, they can't bring it upon themselves to pull back at 1712 02:24:45.600 --> 02:24:48.719 all from the Rainbow flag or any persecution that they're doing with people, or 1713 02:24:48.840 --> 02:24:52.920 the pronouns or any of that kind of stuff. So their tone deaf or 1714 02:24:52.959 --> 02:24:56.200 they're defiant about that, and so that leaves him a strategic opening. You 1715 02:24:56.200 --> 02:25:01.319 know, you're talking about the mind fields and everything. I saw a thing 1716 02:25:01.360 --> 02:25:05.239 the other day of a thing called spider boots. Maybe you probably know about 1717 02:25:05.239 --> 02:25:09.040 it, but the audience probably doesn't. And that's their approach to trying to 1718 02:25:09.079 --> 02:25:11.399 cross these minefields. Just how crude that was. And all it is is 1719 02:25:11.479 --> 02:25:18.760 just a little elevated platform they put shoes on, and it has like four 1720 02:25:18.920 --> 02:25:22.680 extended prongs and a steel plate underneath it, so that if you step on 1721 02:25:22.680 --> 02:25:28.319 one of these mines, the explosion is not going to be directly under your 1722 02:25:28.360 --> 02:25:31.840 foot in your leg. It will be maybe a little bit in front of 1723 02:25:31.879 --> 02:25:35.239 you or you know, and it will be directed somewhat away from its still 1724 02:25:35.280 --> 02:25:39.120 going to really, you know, severely injure the person, but maybe not 1725 02:25:39.559 --> 02:25:43.360 take their leg off and have them bleed out immediately. And I thought, 1726 02:25:43.399 --> 02:25:48.120 that's the best they've got. Here's some spider boots, go walk across that 1727 02:25:48.719 --> 02:25:52.079 my field. It really isn't the best they've got. They have the flailing 1728 02:25:52.159 --> 02:25:56.680 machines that go in front of an armored vehicle that extend out about twenty or 1729 02:25:56.719 --> 02:26:01.840 thirty feet and it's a big rotating series of chain that flail on the ground, 1730 02:26:01.959 --> 02:26:05.520 set off the mines and it doesn't hurt the change when it blows up, 1731 02:26:05.559 --> 02:26:07.680 but they can drive right through a minefield. Just that Ukraine doesn't have 1732 02:26:07.840 --> 02:26:11.479 very many of these, Okay, all right, Yeah, it seems to 1733 02:26:11.520 --> 02:26:15.000 be a real sticking point, as you point out, you know, it's 1734 02:26:15.000 --> 02:26:18.760 a very complicate things in terms of the amount of minds that they've got, 1735 02:26:18.799 --> 02:26:22.360 and it seems to have really stuck them. But I guess it's because they 1736 02:26:22.360 --> 02:26:26.200 just don't have enough of that machinery and they don't have their strategic bombs to 1737 02:26:26.280 --> 02:26:31.600 take out those fields either. Yeah. It truly is amazing to see how 1738 02:26:31.639 --> 02:26:35.000 this is progressing, and of course it is escalating, and that's one of 1739 02:26:35.040 --> 02:26:39.600 my questions to you as we see Russia. You've said for the longest time 1740 02:26:39.719 --> 02:26:46.000 that Western elite want to invite a nuclear strack. That is part of their 1741 02:26:46.000 --> 02:26:48.840 long term plan. We see Russia doing civil defense drills, and of course 1742 02:26:48.840 --> 02:26:54.159 civil defense has never been really a concern of the American government. We're going 1743 02:26:54.239 --> 02:26:58.559 to have an emergency broadcasting system thing happening this afternoon. But you know, 1744 02:26:58.639 --> 02:27:03.319 so what is it that you would tell people, because that's something that you 1745 02:27:03.399 --> 02:27:09.040 cover in your books. Strategic location, and that's a factor. You know. 1746 02:27:09.120 --> 02:27:13.959 Now there's other aspects to strategic location, which is the breakdown of society, 1747 02:27:15.040 --> 02:27:18.399 and you know, the Soros district attorneys letting people back out on the 1748 02:27:18.440 --> 02:27:22.520 streets, criminals back on on the streets. We're seeing that kind of violence 1749 02:27:22.600 --> 02:27:28.719 escalate. But also proximity to nuclear targets is part of strategic relocation, and 1750 02:27:28.760 --> 02:27:33.040 then your secure home and other aspects of this. People can find those books 1751 02:27:33.040 --> 02:27:35.159 at Joel Scousen dot com. Tell us a little bit about give us little 1752 02:27:35.159 --> 02:27:39.520 bit of advice, as the best we're going to get is maybe an emergency 1753 02:27:39.520 --> 02:27:45.559 broadcasting system. I call on our phone. Well, there's a lot of 1754 02:27:45.639 --> 02:27:50.079 hype now about the five G test that's going to come out of two PM. 1755 02:27:50.200 --> 02:27:54.239 And there's been an awful lot of hype around the internet about five G. 1756 02:27:54.639 --> 02:28:00.879 And one of the most I think spectacular falseh is being promulgated is that 1757 02:28:00.959 --> 02:28:07.319 five G can somehow trigger little nanomachines that have been injected with the vaccine and 1758 02:28:07.360 --> 02:28:11.479 create havoc you know, in your body. Well, you know, that's 1759 02:28:11.559 --> 02:28:15.040 really a lot of hype in my opinion. First of all, five G 1760 02:28:15.200 --> 02:28:20.879 cannot trigger any biological device. It can destroy things if you get too close 1761 02:28:20.959 --> 02:28:24.360 to a five G radiating source for too long of a period. It can 1762 02:28:24.399 --> 02:28:31.079 destroy biological process but it can't trigger any biological processes. I have a son 1763 02:28:31.120 --> 02:28:37.120 who works in the cell phone industry as an electrical engineer, and he does 1764 02:28:37.479 --> 02:28:41.000 testing on all the five G, four G and three G you know, 1765 02:28:41.120 --> 02:28:46.680 cell phone technology and their towers for radiation frequency, et cetera. And you 1766 02:28:46.719 --> 02:28:52.239 know, he admits, yes, there are any EMF can be dangerous if 1767 02:28:52.280 --> 02:28:56.840 you have a very strong radio source up against your brain, you know, 1768 02:28:56.959 --> 02:29:01.120 for a long period of time, But they're very care interesting enough, he 1769 02:29:01.159 --> 02:29:03.440 says that five G, by the way, because it is a higher frequency, 1770 02:29:03.920 --> 02:29:07.639 has much less power takes much less power to transmit than four G, 1771 02:29:07.920 --> 02:29:13.479 much less power than three G, which is at a lower frequency still, 1772 02:29:13.520 --> 02:29:18.280 and so actually the radiation effect is lesser in terms of damage because of the 1773 02:29:18.319 --> 02:29:24.079 lower power of the transmitter. Now that said, if you've got an apartment 1774 02:29:24.200 --> 02:29:26.399 and across the street as a building with a five G antenna radio riding in 1775 02:29:26.479 --> 02:29:30.239 your apartment, that's too close. Yeah. Yeah, And what we've seen 1776 02:29:30.239 --> 02:29:31.799 in New York is exactly the same type of thing. They started putting it 1777 02:29:31.840 --> 02:29:37.120 up in neighborhoods and people wake up in the morning and there's this thing right 1778 02:29:37.159 --> 02:29:39.760 next to their window, right next to the window of their kid in the 1779 02:29:41.200 --> 02:29:43.399 cradle, and they look at it and it says this should be located at 1780 02:29:43.479 --> 02:29:48.760 least ten feet away from somebody whatever. They they call the people and said, 1781 02:29:48.799 --> 02:29:50.319 hey, this is what this tag says on here. Can you come 1782 02:29:50.319 --> 02:29:54.319 out and do something about this. They came out and they removed the tag. 1783 02:29:56.639 --> 02:29:58.200 I'm serious. That's a true story. You know, that's reported by 1784 02:29:58.239 --> 02:30:01.000 the New York posts. I think it was. But you know, that's 1785 02:30:01.000 --> 02:30:05.600 the total disregard that they have for people. And of course the other aspect 1786 02:30:05.639 --> 02:30:07.840 of it is that you know, different frequencies, of course, affect us 1787 02:30:07.879 --> 02:30:13.920 differently, and we don't really have a lot of data about five G. 1788 02:30:13.120 --> 02:30:18.360 You know, the only EMF biological research that was really done to a large 1789 02:30:18.399 --> 02:30:20.920 extent was Alan Frye, who was doing it for the Navy, and you 1790 02:30:20.920 --> 02:30:24.680 know the fry effect that they found people hearing clicking noises and things like that 1791 02:30:24.680 --> 02:30:28.719 at different frequencies. But different frequencies are going to affect you different ways. 1792 02:30:28.920 --> 02:30:31.559 To me, I see droll this this five G stuff rolling out. I 1793 02:30:31.600 --> 02:30:35.079 see it being done in the same way they rolled out of the vaccine. 1794 02:30:35.079 --> 02:30:41.520 They're just contemptuous of any particular health effects, and we'll figure that out down 1795 02:30:41.559 --> 02:30:43.399 the road. But you know, we've got to get this thing done right 1796 02:30:43.440 --> 02:30:46.319 now, so you're just going to deal with it. And that's my concern 1797 02:30:46.399 --> 02:30:50.600 about all this talk about the test later today. I think, you know, 1798 02:30:50.639 --> 02:30:56.440 there's very real concerns about how five G is going to be used. 1799 02:30:56.719 --> 02:31:01.520 With the broader band and more capability of carrying data, it's going to be 1800 02:31:01.600 --> 02:31:05.040 used for surveillance and control purposes. That's a given. I'm also concerned about 1801 02:31:05.120 --> 02:31:09.920 the lack of health information about these things, and I think that you know, 1802 02:31:09.159 --> 02:31:13.959 the sensational detail that's out there is going to be used to discredit those 1803 02:31:15.120 --> 02:31:22.680 real concerns about potential health and the reality of the smart city control grid that 1804 02:31:22.719 --> 02:31:28.520 they want to establish with faster bandwidth. All of those are legitimate concerns, 1805 02:31:28.600 --> 02:31:33.719 especially the lack of long term testing and the one tests that have been done 1806 02:31:33.959 --> 02:31:37.440 unfortunately don't tell us the two crucial aspects we have to know whether or not 1807 02:31:37.520 --> 02:31:41.000 the tests are carried out properly. Yes, they irradiated mice with five G. 1808 02:31:41.639 --> 02:31:46.000 They don't tell us how far away and how strong the signal was from 1809 02:31:46.040 --> 02:31:48.920 the mice. You see, those are the true crucial factors. I can 1810 02:31:50.000 --> 02:31:52.920 put a transmitter right up against them and fry their brain, you know, 1811 02:31:52.040 --> 02:31:58.040 within within a couple of weeks. But unless you know that it's been a 1812 02:31:58.079 --> 02:32:01.399 realistic setup, we just don't know how these things operate. Now, remember 1813 02:32:01.440 --> 02:32:07.239 that we've now been operating cell phones in the three G and four G now 1814 02:32:07.319 --> 02:32:15.239 for decades, and we don't have a lot of well or any medical strong 1815 02:32:15.719 --> 02:32:18.879 evidence of any medical effects of people even having the cell phone up against her. 1816 02:32:20.000 --> 02:32:22.399 Now five G is coming in. I don't have a five G phone, 1817 02:32:22.879 --> 02:32:26.079 but other people do, even though they're not doing a test. We're 1818 02:32:26.079 --> 02:32:31.000 going to see if holding that phone to their year is going to have deleterious 1819 02:32:31.000 --> 02:32:37.239 effects to people. Yeah, and we have situations where they put cell phone 1820 02:32:37.239 --> 02:32:41.200 clusters close to an elementary school because they said, hey, it's convenient for 1821 02:32:41.319 --> 02:32:45.719 us, and they said, well, we got some cancer clusters with us. 1822 02:32:45.719 --> 02:32:46.799 And so you've had some local communities say, well, you know, 1823 02:32:46.840 --> 02:32:50.959 we want to fight this. There was a nineteen ninety six telecom act put 1824 02:32:50.959 --> 02:32:56.319 in by Clinton saying you will not object to antenna locations based on any health 1825 02:32:56.360 --> 02:33:01.639 concerns, only a step concern. So if you don't you know, if 1826 02:33:01.639 --> 02:33:03.719 this is a historical district, then we got this antenna there. You can 1827 02:33:03.760 --> 02:33:07.120 object to that and we'll come out. We'll put a box around it that 1828 02:33:07.159 --> 02:33:09.959 blends in with the surroundings. But if it's a health concern, forget about 1829 02:33:09.959 --> 02:33:13.200 it. But a lot of these jurisdictions, this is an important thing I 1830 02:33:13.239 --> 02:33:16.200 tell people. You know, the federal government can say whatever it wants, 1831 02:33:16.239 --> 02:33:20.440 but where the rubber meets the road is at the local level. And we 1832 02:33:20.479 --> 02:33:22.600 need to start standing up at the local level. And we've got several examples 1833 02:33:24.040 --> 02:33:28.280 and communities where they felt that it was a hazard, and they stood up 1834 02:33:28.319 --> 02:33:33.000 to the telecommunications industry and had them move those antennas. And so you know, 1835 02:33:33.079 --> 02:33:41.399 that's that nineteen ninety six Telecom Act came ten years after Fauci Shepherd shepherded 1836 02:33:41.440 --> 02:33:48.600 through that Vaccine Childhood Vaccine Act that gave product liability to the big pharmaceutical companies. 1837 02:33:48.760 --> 02:33:50.879 So we see certainly a pattern here and it is something that we need 1838 02:33:50.879 --> 02:33:56.239 to be concerned about. But as always, you know, adding false details 1839 02:33:56.280 --> 02:33:58.879 to stuff, and the people who've talked about it have said, you know, 1840 02:34:00.120 --> 02:34:01.159 us, eighteen gigaherts, it's going to trigger this, and it's like, 1841 02:34:01.200 --> 02:34:05.000 well, as far as I can tell, eighteen gighurts is not even 1842 02:34:05.000 --> 02:34:07.399 a five G signal. It's not one of the frequencies that they that they 1843 02:34:07.440 --> 02:34:11.920 focus on. And then at the same time to say very specifically it's eighteen 1844 02:34:11.920 --> 02:34:16.239 gig hurts, you'll come out and say, well, my concern is that 1845 02:34:16.319 --> 02:34:18.799 it's all these frequencies at once. It's like, well, these frequencies, 1846 02:34:18.760 --> 02:34:20.680 all these frequencies that once are hitting you all the time. Anyway, you 1847 02:34:20.680 --> 02:34:24.760 need to be concerned about the cell phone that you leave in your pocket all 1848 02:34:24.840 --> 02:34:26.239 day that's going to have, you know, just like holding in that cell 1849 02:34:26.239 --> 02:34:31.879 phone next to your head, your cell phone is sending and receiving signals, 1850 02:34:31.959 --> 02:34:33.680 you know, even when you're not making a phone call. And so if 1851 02:34:33.680 --> 02:34:37.280 you got that thing setting in your pocket or on your body all day, 1852 02:34:37.360 --> 02:34:41.520 you ought to be concerned about that. That's not a wise decision, but 1853 02:34:41.799 --> 02:34:45.200 it is. You know, there has to be some some context for this 1854 02:34:45.319 --> 02:34:48.479 and some some wisdom about this stuff. And it is again unfortunate that the 1855 02:34:48.520 --> 02:34:52.840 government wants to put out stuff like this without doing health tests. But you 1856 02:34:52.840 --> 02:34:58.440 know, the big issue is and and again you know, fast internet with 1857 02:34:58.479 --> 02:35:01.399 broad bandwidth is not a bad thing, it's a good thing. But of 1858 02:35:01.399 --> 02:35:05.280 course it does enable these surveillance and control systems that they want so they can 1859 02:35:05.319 --> 02:35:09.879 do real time biometric analysis. And that's the thing that really concerns me is 1860 02:35:09.959 --> 02:35:16.719 artificial intelligence and how it can be used for data mining and rapid recognition of 1861 02:35:16.799 --> 02:35:22.319 the biometric data that they have for people. I see AI's threat not as 1862 02:35:22.719 --> 02:35:28.840 you know, some computer that's going to become self aware like the terminator, 1863 02:35:28.200 --> 02:35:33.760 but I see it as a very very dangerous tool of very very dangerous people. 1864 02:35:35.159 --> 02:35:37.120 What do you think, Yeah, I agree, with you on that, 1865 02:35:37.559 --> 02:35:41.879 David. You know, it's very important to understand two basic things about 1866 02:35:41.959 --> 02:35:46.319 overall preparation. You're going to first of all, understand what are the big 1867 02:35:46.360 --> 02:35:50.040 threats coming? So many people get so many concerned about these tiny, small 1868 02:35:50.040 --> 02:35:56.159 threats. The big threat coming, of course, is a nuclear world war 1869 02:35:56.280 --> 02:36:01.239 with Russia and China. And you know the reason I say it is inevitles 1870 02:36:01.280 --> 02:36:05.120 because all three basic power structures in the world want it. Chinese communists want 1871 02:36:05.120 --> 02:36:11.079 it, Russia wants it, and the globalists want it. They want it 1872 02:36:11.120 --> 02:36:15.280 because it's the only way to drive Americans into losing their sovereign and joining a 1873 02:36:15.319 --> 02:36:18.000 militarized global government. In order to do that. Of course, that's why 1874 02:36:18.040 --> 02:36:24.680 they passed in nineteen ninety seven PDD sixty instructing our nuclear missile forces to absorb 1875 02:36:24.719 --> 02:36:30.639 a nuclear missiles for strike because they know that Russian and Chinese want to newter 1876 02:36:30.840 --> 02:36:33.639 the American military and then blackmailists into's mission. They do not want a newke 1877 02:36:33.719 --> 02:36:37.760 City's. They don't want to destroy the infiy. They don't want a new 1878 02:36:37.799 --> 02:36:41.680 power plants and pollute the land forever. They want to occupy them. They 1879 02:36:41.680 --> 02:36:46.120 want living space because China can't feed their own people. You know, most 1880 02:36:46.120 --> 02:36:50.600 of China is desert and they cannot grow enough food, and what is irrigated 1881 02:36:50.639 --> 02:36:56.600 often gets flooded by the Yanksee River and other rivers. What I'm saying is 1882 02:36:56.600 --> 02:37:00.959 is that that's the big threat that you ought to really be preparing for. 1883 02:37:01.200 --> 02:37:05.879 And one of the deterrens for preparation is the hope of a savior, an 1884 02:37:05.920 --> 02:37:11.920 earthly savior. Now I'm all for you hoping that God will intervene, but 1885 02:37:13.159 --> 02:37:18.200 unfortunately, I think we've lost the moral blessings of God because of the corruption 1886 02:37:18.440 --> 02:37:26.639 of people within our Western society, and this transgender and homosexual craze which is 1887 02:37:26.680 --> 02:37:31.079 growing by leaps and bound, is guaranteeing that we lose the blessings of protection 1888 02:37:31.159 --> 02:37:37.040 of God. And there has to be judgment consequences for these types of things. 1889 02:37:37.399 --> 02:37:41.760 But you know, when you tend to think that Trump is going to 1890 02:37:41.840 --> 02:37:45.079 save us if only can get reelected, I think that's very unlikely due to 1891 02:37:45.079 --> 02:37:50.200 the ability to steal the election, as they showed in twenty twenty when, 1892 02:37:52.120 --> 02:37:56.959 for example, you know, the biography of my uncle w Clion Scousen just 1893 02:37:56.000 --> 02:38:03.399 came out and it's available on Amazon and it's very interesting. He ran this 1894 02:38:03.520 --> 02:38:11.719 great Center for Constitutional Studies and gave thousands assemblers, educated over four hundred thousand 1895 02:38:11.760 --> 02:38:16.079 people in the United States on the Bounding Father version of the Constitution. And 1896 02:38:16.079 --> 02:38:22.239 then when Reagan got elected the second term, all of the funding from private 1897 02:38:22.280 --> 02:38:26.600 donating dried up. Everyone said, well, Reagan's going to save us. 1898 02:38:26.680 --> 02:38:31.760 And then when Trump got elected, the same thing happened again. Yes, 1899 02:38:31.959 --> 02:38:35.040 is that you know? And when the phony fall of the Soviet Union happened, 1900 02:38:35.200 --> 02:38:39.120 it happened again and said, oh, well, communism isn't an issue 1901 02:38:39.159 --> 02:38:43.040 anymore. And the sale of his famous book that they can communists just drop 1902 02:38:43.159 --> 02:38:46.799 through the roof because people thought that communists had gone away, and that was 1903 02:38:46.840 --> 02:38:50.159 a very great propaganda coup on the part of the Soviets to fake their own 1904 02:38:50.200 --> 02:38:56.920 demise, to get aid in trade, and to disarm the West. So 1905 02:38:56.079 --> 02:39:01.000 it's been a very difficult battle. But my point as a core paredness expert 1906 02:39:01.120 --> 02:39:03.879 is that when people have hope that someone's going to come in and save them 1907 02:39:03.879 --> 02:39:07.799 politically, they will not prepare. I agree, I agree. Can we 1908 02:39:07.799 --> 02:39:11.920 even see that with gun purchases, right, Well, what happens the gun 1909 02:39:11.920 --> 02:39:13.600 purchases you know, well, Obama or Biden get down and everybody starts buying 1910 02:39:13.600 --> 02:39:16.399 guns. Trump gets in, all the gun sales go way way down. 1911 02:39:16.639 --> 02:39:20.120 They don't even care about that level of personal protection, which, by the 1912 02:39:20.159 --> 02:39:24.239 way, you know, if there's crime in your state, in your city 1913 02:39:24.280 --> 02:39:28.719 or whatever, whoever is present isn't really having an immediate effect on that, 1914 02:39:28.760 --> 02:39:31.440 but it does have an immediate effect on even that level, at that street 1915 02:39:31.520 --> 02:39:35.520 level, as people see it. I agree with you. So what's happening 1916 02:39:35.559 --> 02:39:39.920 is that people really need to be concerned, not only about five G, 1917 02:39:39.280 --> 02:39:43.680 which is always in major metro areas. Five G is not a problem in 1918 02:39:43.760 --> 02:39:46.680 rural areas that antennas cannot be close to you as they are in buildings and 1919 02:39:46.760 --> 02:39:50.479 high cities. You just need to be out of the big cities when this 1920 02:39:50.600 --> 02:39:54.520 war comes, because believe me, this war is going to be precipitated by 1921 02:39:56.040 --> 02:40:00.719 a nuclear emp strike which takes down the grid. It's going to be down 1922 02:40:00.799 --> 02:40:03.639 for at least a year because we don't stalkpile any of the long distance transformers 1923 02:40:03.680 --> 02:40:07.600 that allows you to get the grid back up again. You may be able 1924 02:40:07.639 --> 02:40:11.719 to start an individual power plant, but it can't transmit across the country. 1925 02:40:11.760 --> 02:40:18.239 Without these transformers that up the voltage to go thousands of miles and then down 1926 02:40:18.280 --> 02:40:22.040 the voltage again to a usable voltage. All those transformers are made in China 1927 02:40:22.040 --> 02:40:24.719 and they're big as a truck, and we don't have any of them stock 1928 02:40:24.799 --> 02:40:28.200 pilot except maybe two or three, and there are thousands of them in the 1929 02:40:28.319 --> 02:40:31.840 US. So if the good is down for a year, within three to 1930 02:40:31.920 --> 02:40:33.840 five days, people are going to start to pillage. They'll be starvation. 1931 02:40:33.920 --> 02:40:37.600 There won't be electricity, they won't the sewers won't be operating, the water 1932 02:40:37.680 --> 02:40:43.879 system won't be operating, and so you need to be able to get out 1933 02:40:43.920 --> 02:40:46.479 of the big cities. Now. People are obviously tied to the big city 1934 02:40:46.559 --> 02:40:50.319 because of jobs. That's where the most of the jobs are. But I 1935 02:40:50.360 --> 02:40:56.079 can tell you that when the city's become a mad Max scenario, they're not 1936 02:40:56.120 --> 02:40:58.639 going to be any jobs and they're not coming back for a long time. 1937 02:41:00.399 --> 02:41:03.920 And so it's a matter of when do you prepare to leave. Do you 1938 02:41:03.959 --> 02:41:07.719 want to leave during the chaos of a Katrina hurricane, when all the freeways 1939 02:41:07.079 --> 02:41:11.399 are backed up and people have run out of gas from the traffic jams. 1940 02:41:13.079 --> 02:41:15.399 You want to be able to get out of town before that, and that 1941 02:41:15.520 --> 02:41:18.520 means that you have to prepare an exit plant. In my book Strategic Relocation, 1942 02:41:20.639 --> 02:41:26.239 I talk about how in major cities there are beltways freeways going essentially a 1943 02:41:26.280 --> 02:41:31.879 moat because you can't get across those freeways except in places where they on or 1944 02:41:31.920 --> 02:41:35.479 off ramps. Now, if you look carefully on Google Maps, you'll see 1945 02:41:35.479 --> 02:41:39.799 there are at least two or three places to get across the freeway with an 1946 02:41:39.879 --> 02:41:46.000 underpass or an overpass that do not correspond I repeat, do not correspond to 1947 02:41:46.040 --> 02:41:48.840 an off ramp or an on ramp which to be jammed. You need to 1948 02:41:48.879 --> 02:41:54.280 know where those crossing points are. If you have rivers the walk, you 1949 02:41:54.319 --> 02:41:58.000 need to know where the bridges are and how to get through those things, 1950 02:41:58.000 --> 02:42:03.000 and map a route doesn't get on the main roads but uses the back roads. 1951 02:42:03.600 --> 02:42:07.079 I recommend to people in strategic relocation that if you cannot leave the big 1952 02:42:07.079 --> 02:42:11.239 cities, at least you get moved to the periphery of the city, get 1953 02:42:11.280 --> 02:42:15.360 to the outskirts of the city, get to the suburbs on the edge of 1954 02:42:15.399 --> 02:42:18.719 the metrol and commute in. Then at least your family has a chance of 1955 02:42:18.760 --> 02:42:26.440 being the first out without going through all the major suburban areas in the city. 1956 02:42:26.159 --> 02:42:33.200 Now, in terms of danger, the greatest danger during any period of 1957 02:42:33.200 --> 02:42:37.200 social unrest is due to population density. Now there's a major exodus going on 1958 02:42:37.280 --> 02:42:43.520 of all of the major Democratic controlled cities that have these woke prosecutors that there's 1959 02:42:43.520 --> 02:42:48.360 no cash bail anymore. You just release them and as soon as you the 1960 02:42:48.399 --> 02:42:52.079 police arrest them. Is very demoralizing to the police. They don't show up 1961 02:42:52.079 --> 02:42:58.399 for their court dates because they're not having to pay bail anymore. And so 1962 02:42:58.680 --> 02:43:03.319 we have a major exodus going on from La San Francisco, Seattle, Chicago, 1963 02:43:03.479 --> 02:43:09.159 New York, Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. Every major Democratic controlled city is having 1964 02:43:09.159 --> 02:43:13.639 an exodu for the people because of these crime problems. And you know, 1965 02:43:13.719 --> 02:43:18.879 I wish the Conservatives were leaving too, and some of them are, like 1966 02:43:18.959 --> 02:43:22.040 they have left California. What it's done is it's driven up prices in the 1967 02:43:22.079 --> 02:43:26.360 West, which are highly rated in my book Strategic Relocation, because, for 1968 02:43:26.360 --> 02:43:31.879 example, the Inner Mountain West, the cities of states of Idaho, Utah, 1969 02:43:31.559 --> 02:43:37.959 Western Montana, and northern Arizona center there are hundreds of miles from from 1970 02:43:37.000 --> 02:43:41.879 major metro areas and you have to cross deserts and mountains to get to those 1971 02:43:41.920 --> 02:43:48.719 areas from those major metros, which precludes people from walking from Nevada to Idaho 1972 02:43:48.799 --> 02:43:52.479 for example. Other thing, but the trouble is of the Californias are driven 1973 02:43:52.559 --> 02:43:56.520 up all the prices in those areas because of the exodus California. So now 1974 02:43:56.559 --> 02:44:03.280 the cheapest areas are still in the Midwest Missouri, Kansas, Iowa, other 1975 02:44:03.440 --> 02:44:09.799 places like that. The South still has a great deal of some cheap land. 1976 02:44:11.319 --> 02:44:16.200 But the problem is is the South has a warmer climate. That's why 1977 02:44:16.239 --> 02:44:20.159 people are flocking to Florida. For example. The Florida is a zero rated 1978 02:44:20.200 --> 02:44:24.360 state because it's only got two ways out of that state without electricity. You 1979 02:44:24.360 --> 02:44:28.479 can see those traffic jams trying to leave the state and becomes very difficult to 1980 02:44:28.479 --> 02:44:33.639 live in a place like Florida or the South without electricity for air conditioning, 1981 02:44:33.920 --> 02:44:37.680 etc. Oh yeah, I know. I grew up in Florida without electricity. 1982 02:44:39.399 --> 02:44:43.200 I know how it was, and I know that that was the electricity 1983 02:44:43.200 --> 02:44:46.239 that brought made it livable for people to come there. Let me ask you 1984 02:44:46.280 --> 02:44:48.280 this though, you know what you're talking about, you know, planning your 1985 02:44:48.360 --> 02:44:52.079 escape route, making sure you got some bug out and you got someplace to 1986 02:44:52.120 --> 02:44:56.360 go. But what about the cars, and they're the effect of the MP 1987 02:44:56.600 --> 02:45:00.360 on the cars, what do you think is going to happen from that point 1988 02:45:00.399 --> 02:45:07.520 since all the cars have gotten increasingly under electronic control. That's true, there 1989 02:45:07.559 --> 02:45:09.959 are dozens of computers. You can't hardly even fix a car anymore, any 1990 02:45:11.000 --> 02:45:13.920 of the modern cars. You have to have high tech computer reading equipment, 1991 02:45:13.920 --> 02:45:20.959 et cetera. It's a mixed bang. Nobody really knows what's going to happen, 1992 02:45:20.040 --> 02:45:24.280 especially with the new super MP weapons that are being developed. But this 1993 02:45:24.440 --> 02:45:28.760 much the government has published in their test that it's going to take at least 1994 02:45:28.760 --> 02:45:33.639 eight or nine weapons around the United States to take down the entire grid, 1995 02:45:33.840 --> 02:45:39.079 not just one EMP, because there are you've got to blow fuses as you 1996 02:45:39.159 --> 02:45:43.399 go across the country. So you can put up one b EMP and it 1997 02:45:43.440 --> 02:45:46.639 goes out, you know, for five hundred miles and then it dies because 1998 02:45:46.680 --> 02:45:52.159 the fuses are blown around things and it doesn't continue on through the interconnectivity of 1999 02:45:52.159 --> 02:45:56.079 the grid. And so with eight or nine weapons, it means that only 2000 02:45:56.159 --> 02:45:58.239 Russia and China are going to be able to do that. North Korea or 2001 02:45:58.719 --> 02:46:05.639 ira and don't have that kind of do those. But under each weapon, 2002 02:46:05.680 --> 02:46:09.280 there's an area about three hundred miles where the radiation is the most advanced, 2003 02:46:11.479 --> 02:46:16.600 which can really damage cars. But outside that three hundred miles circle, it's 2004 02:46:16.799 --> 02:46:20.840 likely the most cars will restart again. Eddy currents formed in the computer chips 2005 02:46:20.879 --> 02:46:24.639 will maybe shut it down, but you can turn the key off and turn 2006 02:46:24.680 --> 02:46:28.079 it back on and they'll usually restart. That's what the government testing shows. 2007 02:46:28.559 --> 02:46:33.879 So I'm not sure where those eight or nine weapons are going to be placed. 2008 02:46:35.159 --> 02:46:39.399 But here's the basic philosophy. You ought to have older cars. You 2009 02:46:39.440 --> 02:46:43.440 don't have to go pre nineteen eighty five to non computerized cars, but that's 2010 02:46:43.479 --> 02:46:48.959 the best solution to have one of those older vehicles around. But you can 2011 02:46:48.040 --> 02:46:52.879 even have prior to two thousand and four. And if you get for example, 2012 02:46:52.959 --> 02:46:58.520 Volkswagen Diesels, they have one computer. You can buy them cheap and 2013 02:46:58.000 --> 02:47:01.639 used market. You can have a spare computer you can just plug in if 2014 02:47:01.680 --> 02:47:05.920 it goes bad, but generally they only have one ignition computer, and it's 2015 02:47:07.040 --> 02:47:11.840 much less likely that they're going to you know, fry that car. Those 2016 02:47:11.879 --> 02:47:15.879 cars from two thousand and four earlier than that, there's a lot of nice 2017 02:47:15.920 --> 02:47:20.760 cars still available in that range that are fairly EMP resistance, and there's certain 2018 02:47:20.799 --> 02:47:26.200 things that you can do. There are EMP covers you can put over a 2019 02:47:26.239 --> 02:47:31.479 car like a car cover, which will diminish the radiation that gets to the 2020 02:47:31.520 --> 02:47:39.200 computer chips. You can also put toll roids, which are small round magnets 2021 02:47:39.239 --> 02:47:41.559 that open up. They have little hands that open up, and you can 2022 02:47:41.559 --> 02:47:48.440 put it around the cabling leading to your computer so that it absorbs the electromagnetic 2023 02:47:48.639 --> 02:47:52.440 pulse that comes down towards your computer. A lot of people don't know about 2024 02:47:52.479 --> 02:47:58.559 that, but they're fairly inexpensive, maybe four dollars a piece on the internet. 2025 02:47:58.600 --> 02:48:03.319 I cover these types of things in my book The Secure Home, and 2026 02:48:03.360 --> 02:48:09.079 then you can you can EMP protect your house with Siemens puts on a first 2027 02:48:09.280 --> 02:48:13.399 surge protector for about three hundred dollars. But you can put on your panel 2028 02:48:13.440 --> 02:48:18.879 that stops the surge from the power lands shunts it to ground. It doesn't 2029 02:48:18.920 --> 02:48:22.920 predict the house from absorbing EMP within the electrical wiring in the house unless you've 2030 02:48:24.120 --> 02:48:28.600 wired your house and conduit, which nobody does anymore, and so you do 2031 02:48:28.719 --> 02:48:33.399 have to have individual protectors on your computers and other things. But all those 2032 02:48:33.440 --> 02:48:37.520 are readily available, and so to have a search protector, that'll be because 2033 02:48:39.639 --> 02:48:48.559 the electromagnetic radiation would be carried perhaps you know, in terms of a surge, 2034 02:48:48.360 --> 02:48:54.360 it would the surge going through the power grid would be greater than the 2035 02:48:54.399 --> 02:48:58.000 direct electromagnetic radiation from the EMP is what you're saying. That would kind of 2036 02:48:58.000 --> 02:49:01.399 extend the effect through the grid. Well, that's interesting, you know. 2037 02:49:01.680 --> 02:49:05.239 And of course, so again you know, having a place that you can 2038 02:49:05.280 --> 02:49:09.280 go to bug out, as you point out, getting on the outskirts of 2039 02:49:09.280 --> 02:49:11.639 a city, having a route that you can take that's not going to be 2040 02:49:11.639 --> 02:49:15.120 blocked by the interstate because that's where everybody's going to go and you're not going 2041 02:49:15.159 --> 02:49:18.040 to have And that's the other part of it is that everybody's getting accustomed to 2042 02:49:18.680 --> 02:49:24.719 driving with the maps on your phone and nobody's using paper maps anymore. So 2043 02:49:26.399 --> 02:49:31.159 you better better run those route so that you know it, or you got 2044 02:49:31.200 --> 02:49:33.159 a paper map to follow it. To get some pay I wonder if they 2045 02:49:33.159 --> 02:49:37.520 even sell these things anymore. Triple even does cryptics or something like that. 2046 02:49:37.559 --> 02:49:39.479 But yeah, make sure that you got some kind of a paper map and 2047 02:49:39.520 --> 02:49:43.520 paper instructions how to get out there. But any other things that you would 2048 02:49:43.520 --> 02:49:48.559 say in terms of an EMP because I do agree that that is most likely 2049 02:49:48.520 --> 02:49:52.360 or something's going to happen, and we get more vulnerable to it all the 2050 02:49:52.440 --> 02:49:56.360 time, don't we. Well, that's right, and remember that if you've 2051 02:49:56.360 --> 02:50:00.200 got a natural gas heating supply that can't run without good power, they need 2052 02:50:00.479 --> 02:50:05.120 compressors to keep the pressure up in the gas pipelines, et cetera. That 2053 02:50:05.120 --> 02:50:07.959 it's good. So having propaane propane tanks as a backup is one thing, 2054 02:50:09.000 --> 02:50:11.360 but that will only last a certain time. And without electricity, the propane 2055 02:50:11.479 --> 02:50:16.840 refill trucks won't be able to refill, as it requires electric compressors to refill, 2056 02:50:16.959 --> 02:50:22.079 the trucks that come out to service your tanks, and the service stations 2057 02:50:22.079 --> 02:50:24.520 where you're going to get refills where your tanks are not going to be operating 2058 02:50:24.520 --> 02:50:26.479 because they're out of power. I've always seen that whenever there's a storm coming 2059 02:50:26.520 --> 02:50:30.200 through in Florida, you know, we've lost all the power to the thanks, 2060 02:50:30.239 --> 02:50:33.559 so you can't get a refill. So many things to think about with 2061 02:50:33.639 --> 02:50:35.399 all that. But you know, here's another thing. As we're talking about 2062 02:50:35.399 --> 02:50:39.799 all these different aspects here, Joel, if they don't do any EMP. 2063 02:50:39.159 --> 02:50:43.079 They might just go the really really slow route, which is climate change. 2064 02:50:43.360 --> 02:50:48.120 Because all the stuff that we're talking about in terms of taking down the grid 2065 02:50:48.360 --> 02:50:52.879 and making every making life miserable for us, they're doing that in a very 2066 02:50:52.920 --> 02:50:58.440 slow motion way through climate measures that they're taking against people. Aren't they do 2067 02:50:58.559 --> 02:51:03.399 all this, you know, missions control and everything. THEVP now even putting 2068 02:51:03.440 --> 02:51:07.639 out prohibitions and demands for you know, shutting down power stations, which is 2069 02:51:09.079 --> 02:51:13.079 a first, we've never seen that before. Well, I have a theory 2070 02:51:13.159 --> 02:51:18.559 though that I think the dominions at the lower level in the globalist conspiracy do 2071 02:51:18.719 --> 02:51:24.479 not know about the war coming. All of the people touting at the wef 2072 02:51:24.760 --> 02:51:31.239 AI Robotic Society climate change, shutting down all electric vehicles, they're going to 2073 02:51:31.280 --> 02:51:35.559 be a world in a world of hurt when EMP comes along. Can you 2074 02:51:35.600 --> 02:51:39.280 imagine all the people electric cars with no way to charge them, who haven't 2075 02:51:39.360 --> 02:51:43.639 installed a fairly substantial solar system to do that. Yeah, yeah, they're 2076 02:51:43.680 --> 02:51:46.799 not going to. And it's the same thing with the Central Bank digital currency. 2077 02:51:48.760 --> 02:51:52.159 You see, none of that works without the Internet, and the Internet 2078 02:51:52.239 --> 02:51:54.360 isn't going to be working when the grid comes down. Even the elite are 2079 02:51:54.360 --> 02:51:58.280 going to need cash, and so I've been saying that my world affairs brief. 2080 02:52:00.079 --> 02:52:03.479 If it comes, and it probably will come before the war, it 2081 02:52:03.520 --> 02:52:07.879 will run concurrently with cash and they won't be able to eliminate it. Besides, 2082 02:52:07.920 --> 02:52:15.559 there's trillions of dollars of American dollars everywhere. All the honored, even 2083 02:52:15.639 --> 02:52:18.159 the elite, you know, are going to need cash because you know, 2084 02:52:18.200 --> 02:52:22.000 when the electricity is down, cash will be king for a period. It'll 2085 02:52:22.040 --> 02:52:26.200 take a while before gold or silver will get back into circulation because most people 2086 02:52:26.200 --> 02:52:31.520 don't recognize. My brother gives out silver dollars as tips, and often he 2087 02:52:31.600 --> 02:52:35.600 gets bell boys and what's this man? You know, they don't know what 2088 02:52:35.639 --> 02:52:41.120 it is. Yeah, that's funny. Talk about what happens, you know 2089 02:52:41.479 --> 02:52:46.520 when you try to prepare and get off the grid. The vulnerability of solar 2090 02:52:46.559 --> 02:52:56.120 panels to an MP, well, there are MP protectors for panels, and 2091 02:52:56.280 --> 02:53:00.520 all it does is blow out the dios and you can buy replacement diet and 2092 02:53:00.680 --> 02:53:03.319 just put them back in to the back of your solar panels and they're operating. 2093 02:53:05.680 --> 02:53:09.520 MP will not affect the solar cells itself, just the diodes. But 2094 02:53:09.600 --> 02:53:11.159 then you also might have. You know, if you've got some kind of 2095 02:53:11.159 --> 02:53:16.520 an inverter to to change it over for AC power for your appliances or something 2096 02:53:16.559 --> 02:53:18.760 like that, that is also vulnerable as well. Right, Yeah, and 2097 02:53:18.799 --> 02:53:24.520 there are EMP protectors for those two. Transtector Corporation has a full range of 2098 02:53:24.879 --> 02:53:28.719 solar and EMP things. So this stuff is available. You can protect your 2099 02:53:28.760 --> 02:53:35.719 systems. It doesn't require some expertise, but it's all available online. The 2100 02:53:35.799 --> 02:53:41.639 most important thing that you can't buy that you have to create yourself is remember 2101 02:53:41.680 --> 02:53:46.719 that when there's pillaging and refugees and massive social unrests think Mad Max movie. 2102 02:53:46.760 --> 02:53:52.239 I mean, it's going to be that bad someday, you need a place 2103 02:53:52.280 --> 02:53:54.239 to get out of the way, and not just to retreat that's in a 2104 02:53:54.319 --> 02:53:58.799 rural era, because as they pillage the suburbs and then all of that's gleaned 2105 02:53:58.799 --> 02:54:03.239 down out and they'll start to get out into the rural communities too. If 2106 02:54:03.280 --> 02:54:07.200 you have a rural retreat or even a semi suburban home that's got a basement, 2107 02:54:07.920 --> 02:54:11.360 I am a very big believer you need to put in a high security 2108 02:54:11.440 --> 02:54:18.159 shelter into that basement that's concealed, so that you've walled off, you've got 2109 02:54:18.159 --> 02:54:20.040 a fake cabinet that you have to find the door to get in there, 2110 02:54:20.120 --> 02:54:24.879 so that when people come to pillaging your house, etc. You can just 2111 02:54:24.159 --> 02:54:28.120 leave the doors open so they don't break in. Go into your high security 2112 02:54:28.159 --> 02:54:31.479 shelter where they can't find you, and get out of the way. That's 2113 02:54:31.479 --> 02:54:35.959 the most important strategy, especially in a nuclear war, that you can put 2114 02:54:35.959 --> 02:54:41.319 a ten inch concrete ceiling over the top, and in most places that's sufficient 2115 02:54:41.360 --> 02:54:46.280 to cut the radiation significantly, so that you can survive the radiation. And 2116 02:54:46.600 --> 02:54:48.600 you know, a lot of people give up and say, well, we're 2117 02:54:48.639 --> 02:54:50.879 all going to die in a nuclear war anyway, so I'm not, but 2118 02:54:50.959 --> 02:54:56.680 you don't die. Fifty percent of Herosim and Nagasaki survived without any protection. 2119 02:54:58.000 --> 02:55:01.120 Now they wish they were dead. They all got sick, you see, 2120 02:55:01.239 --> 02:55:05.600 but they survived. And you see, God only determines you know when you 2121 02:55:05.719 --> 02:55:11.840 die, and you may live and wish you had prepared. So I spent 2122 02:55:11.920 --> 02:55:16.159 my life not only try to warn people about these existential threats like the nuclear 2123 02:55:16.200 --> 02:55:18.639 war has coming, but how to prepare against them. And I hope that 2124 02:55:18.639 --> 02:55:24.719 people take my advice and not rely on Trump or any conservative getting elected again 2125 02:55:24.760 --> 02:55:28.799 and saving us because even if Trump were elected, even I would not be 2126 02:55:28.879 --> 02:55:33.079 able to root out the deep state because they control the judges. They control 2127 02:55:33.120 --> 02:55:37.760 the NSA that would have to get the wiretap evidence on them to present to 2128 02:55:37.799 --> 02:55:41.479 the judges, and the judges are controlled, they might throw it out. 2129 02:55:41.479 --> 02:55:48.360 I mean, this is way way too big for electoral and conservative activism to 2130 02:55:48.399 --> 02:55:52.760 eradicate. We've waited too long. It's really in power now. So we 2131 02:55:52.879 --> 02:55:58.360 need to prepare and pray to God and get on our knees and ask not 2132 02:55:58.520 --> 02:56:01.239 just that he saved the country, which is not probably in the cards, 2133 02:56:01.399 --> 02:56:07.440 but did he inspire us of how to use our limited resources to be able 2134 02:56:07.479 --> 02:56:11.079 to prepare so that we can survive because He will provide away from most people 2135 02:56:11.879 --> 02:56:16.399 and for a remnant, as Gary North used to say, to survive this. 2136 02:56:16.520 --> 02:56:18.040 And I think I tend to be part of the remnant, and hope 2137 02:56:18.200 --> 02:56:22.680 people listening are too. That's right, and it is going to be something 2138 02:56:22.719 --> 02:56:30.079 that again should point out. God has the history of taking down entire nations 2139 02:56:30.120 --> 02:56:35.959 to show his justice. And yet even in the midst of all of that, 2140 02:56:35.200 --> 02:56:39.399 as we see as Israel was taken away into captivity, one of the 2141 02:56:39.399 --> 02:56:43.639 most hopeful passage in the Bible in Jeremiah twenty nine, which says, now 2142 02:56:43.719 --> 02:56:46.639 I know the plans I have for you to prosper, not to harm, 2143 02:56:46.719 --> 02:56:50.719 and he tells them, even though you're going to be in captivity on the 2144 02:56:50.760 --> 02:56:52.639 other side of this, I've got plans for you. And God does have 2145 02:56:52.719 --> 02:56:56.760 plans for us. The key thing is for us to see him as our 2146 02:56:56.799 --> 02:57:03.120 protector and not some politician. That is the trap and all of this stuff, 2147 02:57:03.399 --> 02:57:05.440 and that's why I try to tell people. It seems to me like 2148 02:57:05.479 --> 02:57:11.399 they're trying to make him the focus. Just as you know, the Democrats 2149 02:57:11.399 --> 02:57:16.920 are wildly enough in Congress to say, the Republicans are having a civil war, 2150 02:57:16.040 --> 02:57:20.879 let's not get in their way. Let us fall back, and we'll 2151 02:57:20.000 --> 02:57:24.600 let them have their civil war. We'll watch it. They are using. 2152 02:57:24.760 --> 02:57:28.879 I think Trump is kind of the Mason Dixon line. Everybody knows, including 2153 02:57:28.920 --> 02:57:33.639 the Democrats who are doing it. Everybody knows they're trumping up these ridiculous charges 2154 02:57:33.680 --> 02:57:37.159 and they see how corrupt and one sided, and how there's no equal protection 2155 02:57:37.239 --> 02:57:39.799 of the law, and they know that that works to help Trump. But 2156 02:57:41.079 --> 02:57:45.280 they're setting everybody up, I think for this massive disappointment. I was just 2157 02:57:45.280 --> 02:57:52.440 talking about that earlier today. Joel Tucker was interviewing Victor David's Victor Davidson about 2158 02:57:52.440 --> 02:57:54.920 that, and you know, and he was saying, well, we'll see, 2159 02:57:54.000 --> 02:57:56.959 let's see what happens in twenty twenty four. And it's like, don't 2160 02:57:56.959 --> 02:57:58.399 put your hope in that. You know, there are things that you can 2161 02:57:58.440 --> 02:58:01.079 do individual and that's why I wanted to get you one to talk about that, 2162 02:58:01.920 --> 02:58:05.280 things that you can do individually, Things you can do locally in your 2163 02:58:05.319 --> 02:58:09.319 community and your state. And we don't need to just focus everything and all 2164 02:58:09.360 --> 02:58:13.079 of our hopes on the presidency because if we do, that puts us in 2165 02:58:13.120 --> 02:58:16.040 a very vulnerable position. And like you, I don't think that the election 2166 02:58:16.479 --> 02:58:20.239 is really going to be an honest one. I have thought that for the 2167 02:58:20.280 --> 02:58:22.680 longest time anyway. And now that we've had this vote by mail stuff which 2168 02:58:22.719 --> 02:58:26.879 was put in by Faucian Trump in twenty twenty that wasn't taken off, that's 2169 02:58:26.920 --> 02:58:31.680 now become a fixture of our lives. And so you know, that type 2170 02:58:31.719 --> 02:58:33.799 of stuff has gotten even more corrupt. I mean, it's gone from control 2171 02:58:33.840 --> 02:58:37.559 of the ballot and control of the debates, and you know, not going 2172 02:58:37.600 --> 02:58:41.840 to have any debates of it. You know, they control every aspect of 2173 02:58:41.879 --> 02:58:45.399 this process, including the final counting of the votes and the stuffing of the 2174 02:58:45.399 --> 02:58:48.200 ballots, and now they've got a brand new way to do that, and 2175 02:58:48.239 --> 02:58:52.000 nobody's even talking about fixing that part of it. And I look at this 2176 02:58:52.159 --> 02:58:54.120 just like I said in twenty twenty, it's like, I don't know why 2177 02:58:54.200 --> 02:58:58.159 I'm voting for anybody because all the people that I voted for just stepped aside 2178 02:58:58.360 --> 02:59:03.559 and turned the government over to a bunch of unelected bureaucrats were issuing orders to 2179 02:59:03.600 --> 02:59:05.520 me to wear paper masks on my face and all the rest of the stuff, 2180 02:59:05.520 --> 02:59:07.840 and said, I am, I'm kind of done with his politics stuff 2181 02:59:07.879 --> 02:59:11.959 at this point in time. So I think that's really the key issue that 2182 02:59:11.000 --> 02:59:15.360 we haven't done anything to take back those aspects, and we need to understand 2183 02:59:15.760 --> 02:59:18.719 that if there's not going to be any legal reform of these new institutions that 2184 02:59:18.760 --> 02:59:22.719 have been put in place and are solidifying around us, that we need to 2185 02:59:22.760 --> 02:59:26.440 make individual preparation. That's why what you do is so important. Again, 2186 02:59:26.520 --> 02:59:33.120 Joelscousen dot com is where you're going to find the books that Joel we didn't 2187 02:59:33.120 --> 02:59:35.360 even get into a building, the secure Home. I have to get you 2188 02:59:35.399 --> 02:59:39.360 back on and talk about that soon. But Joel Skousen dot com to find 2189 02:59:39.399 --> 02:59:43.200 the books, and World Affairs Brief dot com to get his take on what 2190 02:59:43.360 --> 02:59:46.840 is happening geopolitically. Thank you so much for joining us, Joel, thank 2191 02:59:46.879 --> 02:59:50.159 you, thank you. It's always good to be with you. David, 2192 02:59:50.239 --> 02:59:52.639 thank you. Have a good day, everybody, thanks for joining us. 2193 02:59:54.120 --> 03:00:00.680 Let me sell you the day The Night Show you can listen to with your 2194 03:00:00.959 --> 03:00:07.840 ears. You can even watch it by using your eyes. In fact, 2195 03:00:09.239 --> 03:00:13.719 if you can hear me, that means you're listening to the David Night Show 2196 03:00:15.520 --> 03:00:24.479 right now. Yeah, good job. And you want to know something else, 2197 03:00:26.440 --> 03:00:31.680 You can find all the links to everywhere to watch or listen to the 2198 03:00:31.719 --> 03:00:43.920 show at Thedavidnightshow dot com. That's a website. Hear newsnow at apsradionews dot 2199 03:00:43.959 --> 03:00:46.879 com, or get the APS radio app and never miss another story.