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It's the two seventeenth Recovery Podcast.
Corey Winfield. I think that's pretty fair

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for a guy once a quarter,
four times a year trimming toneenails. If

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it needs to be done, it
needs to be done. Ail think you

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that you can go buy the calendar
year. You probably wish I would because

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I probably maybe really do it like
twice a year and coal holes. Marnie

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Winfield the people that really are drawn
to twelve step program. One piece of

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those twelve step groups is because it's
people from all different varieties in lengths of

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time of sobriety. It is the
ninth of July twenty three. My name's

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Corey Winfield. My name's Marnie Winfield. This is the two seventeen Recovery podcast.

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We talk about life and having fun
and recovery, sometimes clipping tone nails,

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which, by the way, March
seventeenth very special day. It's Martie's

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birthday and the first trimming of the
year. And I just had the second

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trimming like a week ago. So
how many months is up? Four?

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So I'm on par for three times
a year. So according to my schedule,

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July, August, September, October, November will be a clipping,

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so maybe you will before Thanksgiving,
special occasions. I love it the clippers

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out, you know, Birthday,
Thanksgiving, fourth of July. Yeah.

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So, speaking of fun and recovery, we have been doing a lot of

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that. Yeah, a lot of
fun and recovery, a lot of fun

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in recovery. And you kind of
help put this last little fun recovery together

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I did. I coordinated to seventeen
to be able to participate in the Cherry

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Festival events, several of them,
and it went amazing. It was a

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blast, I would say, fairly
seamless in terms of showed up, you

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know, worked the event and everything
went smoothly. So and had fun while

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we were doing it. Yeah,
and the guys were saying afterward, like,

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man, this is so much fun. Do this again next year.

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And this was the most Mitch said, this is the most most fun I've

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had a chair festival. He lives
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Yeah, so it's kind of interesting. But it's that feeling of giving

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back. You know, you're doing
something for someone else, not for yourself,

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and at first it's hell. You
hate it because you're like, oh,

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I gotta do what and I'm the
worst and I told all the guys

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that, like the book, I
don't want to be there more than anybody

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here. And of course I really
wasn't down there on that much, but

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I don't know. It's the radio
thing, like being at events and being

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forced to go, and then you
go and then you do it and you

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do feel good and you meet really
good people doing it too. So it's

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it's one of those things that I
told him that I was like, look

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like you're you're feeling like, oh, I don't want to do it right

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now, and you're trying to find
ways to get out of it, but

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at the end of it, you're
gonna be like that was that was pretty

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fun. That was pretty badass,
and that's kind of what they were we're

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feeling. And I feel bad for
Justin because you know, he was the

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driver. He had to drive us
to and from the places. But we

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needed that too, and that was
a huge, huge thing because there's no

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parking down there, yeah, and
we really don't want people to walk ten

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miles to the place where they're going
to volunteer, so it was very handy

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that they had a little spot for
people to pull in, like for volunteers

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where you could drop them off and
pull out. So that was that was

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pretty pretty nice of them, and
it was cool that they allowed us to

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come down there next year. It
looks sounds like I have tent. Yeah,

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oh were you? Yeah, you
were there when I asked him that,

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right, who did you ask the
one guy? Yeah? It was

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Yeah. But the thing that I
love is that, I mean, we

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get to engage with people that are
like and this is they're fun, Like,

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this is fun for them. You
know, they're out in the community,

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they're they're having a great day.
You know, these are people at

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their best moments for the most part, you know, and we get to

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be a part of that and give
back and you know, interact with the

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people that we live with here in
Trefors City. Oh and you missed the

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couple at the end of the night
at the PEPSI tent. Yeah, Oh

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my gosh. It was such a
tear jerker. And I don't even know

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how much I want to tell.
I mean, I'll tell a little bit,

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but a man and a woman came
up at the very end and they're

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like, hey, can we you
know, get something. You know,

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she gotta take her medicine. And
she's like Okay, I gotta take it

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for three hours as well as the
pain comes as too much. And she

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told me that she had pink credit
cancer and that she chose not to get

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radiation, not to get chemo all
that, and she's just going to write

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it out. And so she's like, she said that she almost didn't even

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want to come to it, but
she doesn't know. There will probably be

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the last concert she's ever attended in
her life, is what she said,

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you know, and says like,
oh my gosh, and her husband just

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retired, but yet he retired later
in life, more than later than most

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people, and so he kind of
blames himself. That feels like he should

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have retired earlier and spent more time
and did more things. And I was

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bawling, and then Jeremy he was
either bawling and I don't know. It

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was just like it was so emotional. And I invited them to come by

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the studio at work because I know
how much my grandma's recordings mean to me,

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and I offered, you know,
to said and record anything she wants

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to say. You know, she
wants to tell her whole life story,

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I'll record it. I'll sit there
every minute. But I probably will leave

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when she starts talking about other stuff
because I'll cry and didn't know, can

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you do that again? Because I
was bawling in the background. And I'm

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sure they'll take me up on it, you know, and if they don't

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want to, that's fine too.
You know, some people might think it's

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weird, but I guarantee you the
the memories that will be created, and

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you know, the last forever,
so I mean not forever forever, but

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you know, sure for a while. Yeah. But it's I mean stuff

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like that that we wouldn't have been
able to be able to be around and

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you know, like I said,
engage with people in our community. And

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my mom was saying that there was
this couple that came up and you know,

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we were saying, like, you
here, we're gonna be watching the

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concert tonight, and they said,
we are. We're gonna sit outside the

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fence like we used to when we
didn't have any money. Yeah. I

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was like, that's adorable, right. I mean, these are probably well

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established people now later in life,
but that's what they would do and when

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they were first married and had no
money, is you know, go to

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free events or stuff that where they
could you know, here or from from

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not in the in the seats that
cost money. I was like, that

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is so adorable, so pretty cool
stuff. Yeah, and Chicago was the

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band that was playing that night.
Yeah, yeah, I guess someone that

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told someone told me Candlewax was there. Like I was like, how did

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I miss that? Like, I
really don't think they were. I don't

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know. I didn't keep track of
the events other than what we were there

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for. I wrote on their Facebook
page. I was like, Yo,

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Kevin, what's up? Bro?
Are you gonna be in town? That

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even hit me up? Pull me
off, dude, come on man,

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oh but we're gonna definitely be um. And it was like pulling teeth getting

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people to sign up for to do
this. I mean I put it out

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there for like anybody and everybody to
volunteer. But the people that did were

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like it was awesome. So hopefully, well have more people who are interested

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next year. But we will be
there for sure. Yeah, and hopefully

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we'll like I said, tent we
can I don't know, do whatever.

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Yeah, they can help us to
make a few dollars. Well, I

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think we've made the connection and established
that relationship with you know, the volunteer

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people. There, so they know
who we are. They know we're dependable.

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You know, we're gonna show up
when we say we're gonna show up.

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We're gonna do a good job over
there. This next year. We're

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gonna hit him up and be like, hey, can we do that again?

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What? No way, So they're
gonna say no. They won't say

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that because they're shocked, like you
guys, how we're so blessed to have

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you again. M Yeah, we'll
see, we'll see. Yeah, I'm

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not gonna put it in stone.
You never know, right, so we'll

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see. But yeah, we plan
on being there next year. It'll be

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fun, especially if we have our
own tent. People thought they were volunteering

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already, Wait till next year.
I'll just show up, do a podcast

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and leave. Just kidding now.
They the guys, they all did a

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great job though, and I'm proud
of them and all the people that volunteered

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with us. Um from Nancy now
to your mother to Ron taking pictures,

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Um, Jeremy, Mitch, Adam, just Mary, Jeff, Heidi,

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Jeff, Matt, that's brother,
that's Mom, Thomas, Thomas, Mike,

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Sarah, Mike in there somewhere.
I don't think there was Mike,

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Um, Steve, Steve, do
we say Jeff, Yes, you say

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Courtney, Stephanie, Jessica, you're
just making Michelle. No, it's it

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was pretty It was really awesome and
it went, like I said, I

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went smoothly, and I'm glad we
were there and you know, represented to

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seventeen Recovery. Thanks to everybody.
You guys did a great job in ladies.

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Yes, did a great job.
Probably that's what it's about, man,

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give him back. And that's so
that we wanted to do. Of

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course, I said, hey,
we should, you know, teach them

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how to volunteer. And you're like, okay, we'll sign up to my

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hunteer And I was like, oh
wait, well that's not what I meant.

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But but but it was exactly what
we needed to do. And was

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it hard. There's like pulling teeth
to get people to do this. And

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you didn't want to sign for just
one event, you want to sign for

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five. Yeah, we need eight
people for each event. Yeah yeah,

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But I mean it's one of those
This is part of the learning curve of

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you know, our whole you know, organization for two seventeen to get involved

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in the community. It's not like
we have. Even though as many ideas

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as we have right off the bat, to have those actually take shape,

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it takes a minute. It takes
a lot of work. It takes a

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lot of networking, it takes contacting
people, it takes the getting the go

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aheads, it takes filling out the
forums. There's all kinds of stuff that

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goes into it, and so little
by little these things will become a regular

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thing and we'll have like a normal
schedule of what it is that we and

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and we'll have new stuff that we
decide we're going to do and come up

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with, like our disc golf tournament. Yeah, that's come out up on

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the twenty second. It would be
fun. Yep. So we get that

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and I'm going to organize that and
um, and then we're going to be

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volunteering weekly at Safe Harbor as well. So you know, the disc golf

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event seems like it could be something
that is one of our quarterly events.

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Yeah, we could do that.
So like if we wanted to have a

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disc golf tournament, you know,
where we do a tournament and people win

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stuff, you know, we could
do that in the future, or maybe

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a golf tournament. I don't know, Well, what it would be weather

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permitting. You couldn't do it quarterly. It could be one of them.

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I wouldn't do that same event quarterly. I would not do that same event

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quarterly. I'm just saying we have
some quarterly events that we can do,

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sure, so that's why I mentioned
that. But it would be fun in

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the winter though, Yeah, says
everybody who else is doing one. I'm

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about breaking records here. I didn't
three podcasts and one day from three locations

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in northern Michigan. Nobody's ever done
that yet. I'm the first ever to

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broadcast a podcast from the Pepsi tent
at the Cherry Festival. Very true.

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Now, it was very difficult for
me to listen to it, and I

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listened back because we had the mics
that you pin on, the lapel mics,

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which don't sound o. They don't
sound too bad. But the fact

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was like Mitch had one on and
he was like helping people on that side

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of the tent, and I was
like walking around on the other side of

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the tent, so I didn't know
when he was talking. He didn't know

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when I was talking. I thought
it was neat though, because it was

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kind of like real time chaos,
you know, yeah, fun, but

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hey, breaking records man, sw
I'm about so if we did a disc

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golf tournament in the winter, it
might be cool. What? No way?

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Never? No, we went and
well, I guess we didn't really

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Well, No, we drove by
it today. Uh, there's piece of

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property we're like checking out, you
know, just because we like wasting people's

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time. And we drove by and
you were like, because there's a truck

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in the driveway, and you're like, oh, I hope a single guy

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lives there. Totally took that totally
the wrong way. Totally the wrong way.

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I mean, what do you do
when your wife says that to you?

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No? So, okay, so
we're going there, No, I

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we we're tentatively looking because we're tired
of renting. We're tired of renting an

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apartment. It's a money pit.
And I know that the market is not

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great right now, but we're at
least getting out there and looking and seeing

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what's out there. Right And so
we we're driving by this property, which

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is he is a conduc meaning it's
attached right to another residence. And why

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I said that was I was saying
because it originally when we were driving.

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They were like, watch the people
that are living in that are be our

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neighbors will be like a family of
six and like these crazy children, you

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know, or obnoxious parents, you
know, who knows what? You don't

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know what you're getting too, Like
we should ask to meet whoever it is

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who's going to be our neighbors before
we sign anything regardless. And why I

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said that was I was like,
it'd be easy, like no worries,

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Like he's on doing his thing,
you don't care. That was funny though,

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Yeah, real funny. Yeah,
we drive up there there's a truck,

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I said, in the driveway,
and then here, oh, man,

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I hope it's a single guy that
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mean it's like, I hope it's
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no, I didn't know. Like
that's that's fine. I mean somebody

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who's just doing their own things.
Somebody's just doing their own thing. Okay,

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yeah, just gave me pulsit.
Yeah pass her dad gets it.

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that in the address it has a
two, has a one, has a

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seven. It does I'm like,
well, that's our angel pointing us over

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there, un that's my angel.
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probably well. And then I'm was
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like, oh, sounds good.
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it's tomorrow. At five fifteen.
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Human Rights Commission in Traverse City tomorrow. Because I'm on the commission, I'm

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a commissioner, so I have to
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wait what? And then I felt
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I tell you? I'm like,
I don't know, and I'm like beating

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myself up mentally. I'm like,
well, the reason why I'm mad is

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because I made a mistake and I
didn't realize. I don't know why,

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because I've known about this. I've
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particular because there's some people that are
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was like, I don't know.
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I'm beating myself up, but I'm
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to check my phone later and I'm
checking through the what I got to going

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on this weekend? I'm like okay, And then Tuesday, oh yeah,

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five pm, looking at house,
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an option Monday at five, Monday
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and two thirty. Those were our
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don't know what I have going on
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and you're like, oh, Ryan
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was like, okay, no,
like, I have nothing going on Tuesday

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that I can think of, and
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I said, we can. He's
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anytime after one. And then I
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I was going to be a bit. And then you'd had no response at

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all about anything. She wants to
meet the neighbor. I don't want to

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take her husband with her. I
get it. Maybe we should play the

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intimacy game. We can't play the
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our angel number. You're like,

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oh, I hope they're single.
Oh my gosh, it was not even

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I was. You're totally reading it
the wrong way. But well, I

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mean I don't put it past you. So m okay, Well I'm glad

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that we're married today and that's all
that really matters. That's all we got,

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right, Yes, yeah, we
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starting an art class like art,
not art class, but an art group

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because art can you call it recovery
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Oh okay for the single people.
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the idea from what you've been talking
about our therapy for a long time and

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how to incorporate it. And then
one of the other our CEOs is actually

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doing something like that, so we're
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and here we are. So yeah, we're that's on the to do list

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as well. Yes, we got
some shirts coming in and they'll be here

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this week. So we're going to
have one day, I don't know what

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to figure it out and talk to
different people that would want to run the

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group and see how we can get
it funded as well. You know,

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some stuff might be easier than other
shirts. You know, if people bring

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their own shirts, you know,
do we just provide the vinyl and help

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them cut it and show them how
to how to do it. Yeah,

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it can be done an hour easily, you know, but because you would

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have to put the graphics together or
help them show them whatever. Yeah.

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come, it's like, okay, let's

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just plan what you're trying to put
on a shirt or whatever. You know,

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cups don't really, I mean you
haven't. There's a special thing you

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can use for cups and we don't
have that yet. But maybe we can

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get that with funding. So we'll
see, but it'll be be pretty interesting.

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In the Recovery Dads logo, I
want to get that on some stuff

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because I think that's a pretty cool
logo. And that's a meeting that Adam

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runs on Sundays at ten am.
And I don't know if he's gonna move

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that. I mean, some people
are like, oh dude, I love

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you know, hitting a meeting Sunday
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Maybe it was the Cherry Festival.
Like I felt bad for Adam because the

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first week he has meeting, it
was Mother's Day, and then the next

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week it was something else, and
then it was like this next week it

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was something else, kind of with
the cherry Fest wrapping down and people not

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really want to get out on traffic
and stuff. So I kind of feel

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bad for him because there's like three
weeks in a row where it really wasn't

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the best turnout time or yeah,
it wasn't the best turnout, wasn't the

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best time to even start it,
But that's just Satan trying to bring him

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down. Well, I think it's
a great idea and I'm I hope that

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it takes shape. I think it
will. Yeah, if you're a dad,

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you know, and maybe Recovery Moms
is on the way soon, hopefully,

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because if you think of all the
crap that you have to deal with

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when you're in recovery and you're a
dad, you know, whether you're married

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or not, whether you're single dad
married dad didn't matter, you know,

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and the family is counting on you
for a lot of different things. And

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like Adam was telling me, which
I can do an interview with Adam about

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this and he'll tell you all about
it. But when he got out stream

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and he's like, okay, well
cool, I gotta go to you know,

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this meeting. Tight. This is
my meetings when I go to oh,

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well you got to do this and
this and this round the house exactly.

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I won't do any of that.
Let's I'm sober, so let me

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go to this meeting. You know. And some of our family members they

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don't understand. I think, Okay, he went to treatment. Oh he

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wants to stream it again. This
is a fifth time of treatment. He

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got out, he's learned everything,
Like, you know what you need to

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do, now just do it.
Don't go to that stupid meeting. It's

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not going to help you, you
know, like they don't understand like that

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meeting is a huge crucial part,
yeah, of his life in early recovery,

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you know. And I know women
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You know. It's like and especially
if their kids involved and him,

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Mom, can you watch the kids. I'm tired tired of watching them.

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Kids. You can run off to
the meetings. Well that's how I keep

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the kids, That's how I stay
sober, you know what I mean.

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And to just how to get that
out in a room full of people who

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understand and get it, you know. That's that's what I think is the

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huge part of it. And not
that anybody's gonna have an answer for you

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of what to say perfectly and nothing
like that, but just that you get

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to vent and you get to let
it out. And that's what support groups

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for is talking about the challenges.
And you're right, that's not like anybody

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sometimes are looking for a solution.
There might not be one. It's just

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keep doing what you're doing, keep
chipping away, keep trucking with you know,

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your recovery and whatever that looks like
to you, to have another day

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clean and sober, you know.
And that's why being around other people,

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like minded people that are going through
the same experiences, you don't feel so

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alone. And maybe there'll be someone
in there who has the perfect thing that

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they told their loved one, you
know, like, well, I was

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getting in that same stuff and I
was told this, and you know,

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maybe that they won't even say that. Maybe they'll say I was leaving and

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my mom was giving me grief,
or my dad was giving me grief,

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for my husband was given me whoever
was giving me grief, Because I'm coming

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to this meeting and I just sat
him down and said, look, I

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have to go to this meeting in
order to be here for you later today.

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You know, like, this is
something that we have to do.

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And I'm sorry that you're in this
situation, but you married me and or

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you've birthed to me, or you
were there with mom when you made me,

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and I would like to be around
for you later. So just allow

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me this and trust me. Nobody's
in there hooking up at least I'm not.

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I'm going there to get some things
off my chest and whatever. And

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once I told him that it was
fine, it was great and they understood

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and it was wonderful and somebody can
hear then go hm. So that way,

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when someone comes at them with the
same kind of thing, they can

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be like, ah, I know
how to do this. Yeah, we

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go get my knife. Not just
kidding, don't do that, no way.

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Sorry messing up what it's like.
I was on Facebook. I liked

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his videos. Yeah it's funny.
He's funny, So what no way,

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guys for Canada. It takes different
hacks and then he tries them out and

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see if they see if they work. Sometimes they do and sometimes they don't.

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But it's pretty funny. Some of
them are pretty clever, so I

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like that. Now it's a drop, so I haven't a drop. I

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don't remember what it is because it's
been a while. Because we're in the

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original, we'll not the original,
but we're in the I guess it could

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be the original studio because before we
didn't have a studio at all. So

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right, and this board is different
than says Mitchell B I don't want it

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means should I hit it? Sure? Bye? Oh bye? Oh premature

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there. Well, yeah, I
thinks Mitchell, hi bye, you didn't

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even say hi and are the same
bye. Yeah, that's the problem of

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having multiple locations. I know.
Great, Yeah, I kind of go

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through and like something that we do
with Spreaker is kind of weird because if

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you pull us up on like Apple
podcasts, we don't even have a description

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in there. It's just like whatever
the last episode is is what it says.

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And I was like an other ones, I'm like waiting, mite,

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other people have different stuff in here. And then I was looking at like

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high Search Recovery Research sober we don't
show about in neither of those searches.

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I'm like, what, no way, Like we have more podcasts on all

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these people, but I know they
were saying something about, oh, well,

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the more people that rate you rate
your podcast on those platforms, and

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I'm like, well, some people
listen on iHeart radio, you know,

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some people listen on Spotify. Some
people listen to our app. We have

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our own app or we post them. So I don't know rate or app

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rate us in those but how would
you listen to us? Rate us?

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Right? Us? Good? So
we show up. But I think I'm

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going to go through and try to
change the the stuff through the actual iTunes

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or Apple. I think what I
do is just I don't know what I

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do, but I'm sure you figure
it out. Yeah, because this doesn't

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make sense that we wouldn't pull up
at all, like people that I haven't

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done a podcast in five years around
there, and I'm like, wait,

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I do have three podcasts, and
yeah, that is a little odd.

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Ye, I don't know. Get
to the bottom of it, because I

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want to get to the top,
get the bottom to get to the top.

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There you go. I tell people
it's thought about how many people that

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listen, and it's not. But
if people are looking for us, you

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know, we're looking for a recovery
podcast. I've listened to some of them

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some all right, most of them
not my cup of tea. If they're

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not my cup of tea, that
means they're not someone else's cup of tea.

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And we're not everybody's cup of tea
either, right, for sure,

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but just to be but to be
seen. Yeah, I listened to your

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live right podcast. Yeah with help
me Hereandy. Yeah, that was good.

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She's good. I like her.
Yeah you liked it. Yeah,

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I'm a big old fan. Ahead. No, I think it's great.

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I think she's very brave for doing
it on like on video. I would

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not be a big fan of that. It would give me one more reason

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to not be able to make time
because I'd be like, oh no,

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I need to like look decent,
like not being my pajamas. Yeah,

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I'll share that on Facebook or something, even though like it only lets me

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share it with like two people,
but because when you post it only show

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so many people, however many,
but at least it'll be there. So

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if you're looking for if you want
to see that interview, it's about a

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half hour or so. Yeah,
it's like thirty five minutes. Yeah,

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Yeah, that was fun. It
was good what to have her on the

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podcast? Yeah, one that you're
on. Awesome, looking forward to it.

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Cool and when you need new artwork
too, need artwork. We need

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new artwork for our podcasts. Oh
oh yeah, I'm noticing that looking at

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other people's stuff, like we needed
our faces or something there. Okay,

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so you know, it's about that
time I started designing the new one for

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the podcast. I didn't think that
I ever ended last year. I didn't

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really, I just used our regular
I made a new logo for two seventeen

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Recovery, and I just kind of
use that for whatever. So, yeah,

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we need to make like a real
one if we're going to be at

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the top of the game with the
podcast Ladies or whatever they're called are sober

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Man's Podcast or whatever he's calling.
But thank you, yeah, thanks for

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coming by today. Oh you're welcome. Appreciate you out there. I know

412
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you're working on your paper and not
looking for single men. No I'm not.

413
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I'm definitely working on my paper and
I am literally the end is in

414
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sight for I finishing my college stuff. I'm just being done. How do

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you feel I'm still carrying a little
anxiety just because it's not done, you

416
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know. And um, but I'm
also I'm also excited. I'm also excited,

417
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and there's a lot of new experiences. They're you know, eating me

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professionally. So yeah, I'm really
excited about that. But one day at

419
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a time, just gotta just keep
doing it until I'm there, you know.

420
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So we'll hang in there and it'll
be over soon and football be here

421
00:29:18.720 --> 00:29:22.640
and then the whole new chapter of
your life will probably start. And thank

422
00:29:22.640 --> 00:29:27.039
you for your support through everything with
my schooling. It's been not the easiest

423
00:29:27.279 --> 00:29:33.599
on you too. So when I
acknowledge that, thank you, Yeah,

424
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I do what I can. I
know, I know you do. Okay,

425
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I'm glad that you're finishing and that
you're that you actually went out and

426
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did something that you wanted to do
and that you were going to accomplish it

427
00:29:47.000 --> 00:29:49.640
faster, because you could have slowed
it down and went and slower and took

428
00:29:49.680 --> 00:29:53.480
your time might have been easier on
you, but you just hunker down and

429
00:29:53.519 --> 00:29:56.720
just said nope, I'm gonna take
on this and I'm gonna do it.

430
00:29:56.920 --> 00:30:02.720
Yeah, I'm gonna finish it.
Yep. So that's got to feel great.

431
00:30:02.799 --> 00:30:07.200
And how does it feel to know
like you're because sometimes I struggle with

432
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this myself when you know that you're
like your mom and dad's favorite child.

433
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Like, I mean, isn't it
difficult to be around them in the same

434
00:30:21.440 --> 00:30:23.279
room and they're like trying to like
kiss up and stuff, and you just

435
00:30:23.359 --> 00:30:29.200
like I put her through hell,
I put him through hell, and I'm

436
00:30:29.200 --> 00:30:33.039
still the favorite. Like stop,
don't you just want to tell him stop?

437
00:30:33.319 --> 00:30:37.559
Yeah, there's I mean I think
that I think that being on the

438
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other side of my addiction, and
there's this like obviously appreciation that our parents

439
00:30:47.920 --> 00:30:49.880
have for us, you know,
and the fact that they stuck with us

440
00:30:49.880 --> 00:30:56.599
through some extremely hard times. That's
that's a connection that other siblings can't,

441
00:30:57.039 --> 00:31:02.839
you know, can't find that parent. You know. There's this kind of

442
00:31:02.880 --> 00:31:10.000
like vulnerability and trust that wasn't there
for a long time, you know,

443
00:31:10.119 --> 00:31:12.720
and now it is, and it's
like it makes the relationship so much stronger,

444
00:31:14.599 --> 00:31:21.119
you know. And um, So
I don't know if I'm I can't

445
00:31:21.160 --> 00:31:23.559
say that I know that I'm a
favorite child, but I know that we're

446
00:31:23.640 --> 00:31:29.039
for sure. I definitely, I
definitely have have, you know, a

447
00:31:29.079 --> 00:31:33.279
relationship with both of my parents.
It's different, they're different relationships with each

448
00:31:33.319 --> 00:31:38.880
of them, but they're they're a
lot more real, you know, in

449
00:31:40.079 --> 00:31:44.880
real time, real with then compared
to my siblings. I've never seen him

450
00:31:44.920 --> 00:31:48.319
wearing a shirt with your brother's name
on it, because my brothers never make

451
00:31:48.359 --> 00:31:53.039
a shirt for him with his name
on it. No, probably not if

452
00:31:53.039 --> 00:31:56.160
he had a business or he has
a business, doesn't name, Yeah,

453
00:31:56.720 --> 00:31:59.640
have shirts. We should make them, Ma, sure for his business.

454
00:31:59.640 --> 00:32:01.880
We should do that. And you
said it to your dad and not even

455
00:32:01.920 --> 00:32:05.759
telling us, not from your brother. And let's see which one he wears

456
00:32:05.759 --> 00:32:12.440
all the time. This is my
favorite neuroscience shirt. Yeah, yeah,

457
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I am extremely proud of my siblings. They've accomplished a lot in their life.

458
00:32:16.400 --> 00:32:23.359
They've had their own struggles themselves,
you know, independent of you know,

459
00:32:23.440 --> 00:32:28.480
it had nothing to do with substance
use. But um, you know,

460
00:32:28.960 --> 00:32:31.359
I'm not dismissing those you know,
the fact they've gotten through hard times

461
00:32:31.440 --> 00:32:37.160
or whatever. But um, I
don't know. Yeah, there's something to

462
00:32:37.160 --> 00:32:44.799
be said about the getting through a
difficult time and then having your parents be

463
00:32:44.920 --> 00:32:49.160
part of the solution when you're on
the other side of it. There's why

464
00:32:49.200 --> 00:32:51.839
I brought the ups because something my
dad may or may not have said to

465
00:32:51.839 --> 00:32:55.440
me. You know, Corey,
you're my favorite child. Oh and we

466
00:32:55.519 --> 00:33:00.319
had that same kind of broken relationship. And if you have been listening to

467
00:33:00.400 --> 00:33:04.240
the podcast from the beginning, he
probably heard the letter. And I wrote

468
00:33:04.240 --> 00:33:06.839
the letter, and then I was
worried about the response and this and that,

469
00:33:06.960 --> 00:33:09.319
and you know, it wasn't always
good, you know, And I

470
00:33:09.359 --> 00:33:14.200
texted him and me nasty text telling
him he was pretty much piece of shit,

471
00:33:14.440 --> 00:33:16.799
you know. And I was drunk
when I did it. You know,

472
00:33:16.839 --> 00:33:21.240
I'm not proud of that. I
did get some things off my chest.

473
00:33:21.279 --> 00:33:22.880
I wish I would have done that
in a different way. Now that

474
00:33:22.920 --> 00:33:28.640
I'm sober, I realized this.
But he too, would rather move forward

475
00:33:28.680 --> 00:33:32.839
and except that, yeah, sorry
if I said some things that hurt you,

476
00:33:32.960 --> 00:33:36.240
but I'm not sorry I said them, you know, And that that's

477
00:33:36.319 --> 00:33:38.039
kind of tough too, to have
something, you know, tells somebody like,

478
00:33:38.160 --> 00:33:42.720
I'm not sorry I said it because
I said it for a reason and

479
00:33:42.839 --> 00:33:44.920
it was on my it was on
my chest. I wish I would have

480
00:33:44.920 --> 00:33:46.240
done it differently, you know.
But at the same time, it's like,

481
00:33:46.319 --> 00:33:51.440
I'm glad that I'm not glad that
I did it, but I'm not

482
00:33:51.519 --> 00:33:53.680
sorry that I did it. So
but yeah, to come back from that

483
00:33:53.759 --> 00:33:58.920
and to have a relationship now.
It just shows you the growth and that

484
00:33:58.960 --> 00:34:02.519
we are in recovery. We've learned
so much about ourselves and when we thought

485
00:34:02.559 --> 00:34:05.759
we were at the end of the
rope, and then we realized we weren't,

486
00:34:05.759 --> 00:34:07.360
and that was still more pain and
more suffering to come, and we

487
00:34:07.400 --> 00:34:12.079
still made it through that and still
more pain and suffering, and it really

488
00:34:12.159 --> 00:34:16.960
helps us look at life different.
I think where we can sometimes and it

489
00:34:17.000 --> 00:34:21.760
takes practice pause, you know,
we can stop and not just react to

490
00:34:21.880 --> 00:34:28.599
situations where we could think them through
and realize what we can and can't control,

491
00:34:30.159 --> 00:34:32.840
and what we can control is how
we act, you know, and

492
00:34:34.440 --> 00:34:37.639
our emotions will play a huge factor
in that a lot of times, and

493
00:34:38.280 --> 00:34:45.280
when we were drinking and using,
it really wasn't easy to control those emotions.

494
00:34:45.400 --> 00:34:49.639
And it's still a lot easy,
but it's a lot more manageable,

495
00:34:50.559 --> 00:34:53.360
you know, when you can think, no, not my thing, not

496
00:34:53.360 --> 00:34:58.519
going to get in it, or
you can just look at somebody, you

497
00:34:58.519 --> 00:35:00.440
know. I've had to have conversation
with the mom like no, I didn't

498
00:35:00.440 --> 00:35:02.760
appreciate that or this and that,
you know, and she tells me the

499
00:35:02.800 --> 00:35:05.599
same thing. Oh well, I
didn't appreciate this or that, and I'm

500
00:35:05.639 --> 00:35:08.320
like, okay, well, well, in part of part of the healing

501
00:35:08.400 --> 00:35:16.719
process of you know, dealing with
our addiction is figuring out these coping mechanisms

502
00:35:16.719 --> 00:35:22.199
in different ways to live, in
different ways to handle problems, right opposed

503
00:35:22.199 --> 00:35:30.320
to drugs and alcohol. And so
we're essentially lucky because we're more mindful and

504
00:35:30.440 --> 00:35:37.360
self aware of us and how we
function on a daily basis with like the

505
00:35:37.400 --> 00:35:42.239
world than the average human being,
right, I mean, we're more like

506
00:35:42.360 --> 00:35:50.880
self aware and that's a word intentional
about you know, how we handle things,

507
00:35:51.559 --> 00:35:55.119
because we know how we handle things
in the past didn't work. And

508
00:35:55.199 --> 00:36:00.800
so you know, we really are
are lucky in that way. And I'm

509
00:36:00.800 --> 00:36:05.280
not saying there's not people in recovery
that aren't I mean a hole still,

510
00:36:05.559 --> 00:36:08.800
thank you. For sure, there
for sure are. But for the most

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00:36:08.840 --> 00:36:15.960
part you look at life differently.
You really do, so that I'm grateful

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00:36:19.320 --> 00:36:28.519
as am I amen. Word all
right, bye, bye, Mitchell.

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Now we'll wrap it up. Thanks
for listening though, And yeah, I

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518
00:36:49.400 --> 00:36:53.559
support and how we hear second hand
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519
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we're great? That's awesome. We
think you're great too. Everybody. Keep

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up the good work absolutely, and
watch all our videos from Cherry Festival,

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which are gonna be on our website
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can see a couple of them now, but by the time you hear this

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