It's the two seventeenth Recovery Podcast. Corey Winfield. I think that's pretty fair
for a guy once a quarter, four times a year trimming toneenails. If
it needs to be done, it needs to be done. Ail think you
that you can go buy the calendar year. You probably wish I would because
I probably maybe really do it like twice a year and coal holes. Marnie
Winfield the people that really are drawn to twelve step program. One piece of
those twelve step groups is because it's people from all different varieties in lengths of
time of sobriety. It is the ninth of July twenty three. My name's
Corey Winfield. My name's Marnie Winfield. This is the two seventeen Recovery podcast.
We talk about life and having fun and recovery, sometimes clipping tone nails,
which, by the way, March seventeenth very special day. It's Martie's
birthday and the first trimming of the year. And I just had the second
trimming like a week ago. So how many months is up? Four?
So I'm on par for three times a year. So according to my schedule,
July, August, September, October, November will be a clipping,
so maybe you will before Thanksgiving, special occasions. I love it the clippers
out, you know, Birthday, Thanksgiving, fourth of July. Yeah.
So, speaking of fun and recovery, we have been doing a lot of
that. Yeah, a lot of fun and recovery, a lot of fun
in recovery. And you kind of help put this last little fun recovery together
I did. I coordinated to seventeen to be able to participate in the Cherry
Festival events, several of them, and it went amazing. It was a
blast, I would say, fairly seamless in terms of showed up, you
know, worked the event and everything went smoothly. So and had fun while
we were doing it. Yeah, and the guys were saying afterward, like,
man, this is so much fun. Do this again next year.
And this was the most Mitch said, this is the most most fun I've
had a chair festival. He lives here, he's lived here his whole life.
Yeah, so it's kind of interesting. But it's that feeling of giving
back. You know, you're doing something for someone else, not for yourself,
and at first it's hell. You hate it because you're like, oh,
I gotta do what and I'm the worst and I told all the guys
that, like the book, I don't want to be there more than anybody
here. And of course I really wasn't down there on that much, but
I don't know. It's the radio thing, like being at events and being
forced to go, and then you go and then you do it and you
do feel good and you meet really good people doing it too. So it's
it's one of those things that I told him that I was like, look
like you're you're feeling like, oh, I don't want to do it right
now, and you're trying to find ways to get out of it, but
at the end of it, you're gonna be like that was that was pretty
fun. That was pretty badass, and that's kind of what they were we're
feeling. And I feel bad for Justin because you know, he was the
driver. He had to drive us to and from the places. But we
needed that too, and that was a huge, huge thing because there's no
parking down there, yeah, and we really don't want people to walk ten
miles to the place where they're going to volunteer, so it was very handy
that they had a little spot for people to pull in, like for volunteers
where you could drop them off and pull out. So that was that was
pretty pretty nice of them, and it was cool that they allowed us to
come down there next year. It looks sounds like I have tent. Yeah,
oh were you? Yeah, you were there when I asked him that,
right, who did you ask the one guy? Yeah? It was
Yeah. But the thing that I love is that, I mean, we
get to engage with people that are like and this is they're fun, Like,
this is fun for them. You know, they're out in the community,
they're they're having a great day. You know, these are people at
their best moments for the most part, you know, and we get to
be a part of that and give back and you know, interact with the
people that we live with here in Trefors City. Oh and you missed the
couple at the end of the night at the PEPSI tent. Yeah, Oh
my gosh. It was such a tear jerker. And I don't even know
how much I want to tell. I mean, I'll tell a little bit,
but a man and a woman came up at the very end and they're
like, hey, can we you know, get something. You know,
she gotta take her medicine. And she's like Okay, I gotta take it
for three hours as well as the pain comes as too much. And she
told me that she had pink credit cancer and that she chose not to get
radiation, not to get chemo all that, and she's just going to write
it out. And so she's like, she said that she almost didn't even
want to come to it, but she doesn't know. There will probably be
the last concert she's ever attended in her life, is what she said,
you know, and says like, oh my gosh, and her husband just
retired, but yet he retired later in life, more than later than most
people, and so he kind of blames himself. That feels like he should
have retired earlier and spent more time and did more things. And I was
bawling, and then Jeremy he was either bawling and I don't know. It
was just like it was so emotional. And I invited them to come by
the studio at work because I know how much my grandma's recordings mean to me,
and I offered, you know, to said and record anything she wants
to say. You know, she wants to tell her whole life story,
I'll record it. I'll sit there every minute. But I probably will leave
when she starts talking about other stuff because I'll cry and didn't know, can
you do that again? Because I was bawling in the background. And I'm
sure they'll take me up on it, you know, and if they don't
want to, that's fine too. You know, some people might think it's
weird, but I guarantee you the the memories that will be created, and
you know, the last forever, so I mean not forever forever, but
you know, sure for a while. Yeah. But it's I mean stuff
like that that we wouldn't have been able to be able to be around and
you know, like I said, engage with people in our community. And
my mom was saying that there was this couple that came up and you know,
we were saying, like, you here, we're gonna be watching the
concert tonight, and they said, we are. We're gonna sit outside the
fence like we used to when we didn't have any money. Yeah. I
was like, that's adorable, right. I mean, these are probably well
established people now later in life, but that's what they would do and when
they were first married and had no money, is you know, go to
free events or stuff that where they could you know, here or from from
not in the in the seats that cost money. I was like, that
is so adorable, so pretty cool stuff. Yeah, and Chicago was the
band that was playing that night. Yeah, yeah, I guess someone that
told someone told me Candlewax was there. Like I was like, how did
I miss that? Like, I really don't think they were. I don't
know. I didn't keep track of the events other than what we were there
for. I wrote on their Facebook page. I was like, Yo,
Kevin, what's up? Bro? Are you gonna be in town? That
even hit me up? Pull me off, dude, come on man,
oh but we're gonna definitely be um. And it was like pulling teeth getting
people to sign up for to do this. I mean I put it out
there for like anybody and everybody to volunteer. But the people that did were
like it was awesome. So hopefully, well have more people who are interested
next year. But we will be there for sure. Yeah, and hopefully
we'll like I said, tent we can I don't know, do whatever.
Yeah, they can help us to make a few dollars. Well, I
think we've made the connection and established that relationship with you know, the volunteer
people. There, so they know who we are. They know we're dependable.
You know, we're gonna show up when we say we're gonna show up.
We're gonna do a good job over there. This next year. We're
gonna hit him up and be like, hey, can we do that again?
What? No way, So they're gonna say no. They won't say
that because they're shocked, like you guys, how we're so blessed to have
you again. M Yeah, we'll see, we'll see. Yeah, I'm
not gonna put it in stone. You never know, right, so we'll
see. But yeah, we plan on being there next year. It'll be
fun, especially if we have our own tent. People thought they were volunteering
already, Wait till next year. I'll just show up, do a podcast
and leave. Just kidding now. They the guys, they all did a
great job though, and I'm proud of them and all the people that volunteered
with us. Um from Nancy now to your mother to Ron taking pictures,
Um, Jeremy, Mitch, Adam, just Mary, Jeff, Heidi,
Jeff, Matt, that's brother, that's Mom, Thomas, Thomas, Mike,
Sarah, Mike in there somewhere. I don't think there was Mike,
Um, Steve, Steve, do we say Jeff, Yes, you say
Courtney, Stephanie, Jessica, you're just making Michelle. No, it's it
was pretty It was really awesome and it went, like I said, I
went smoothly, and I'm glad we were there and you know, represented to
seventeen Recovery. Thanks to everybody. You guys did a great job in ladies.
Yes, did a great job. Probably that's what it's about, man,
give him back. And that's so that we wanted to do. Of
course, I said, hey, we should, you know, teach them
how to volunteer. And you're like, okay, we'll sign up to my
hunteer And I was like, oh wait, well that's not what I meant.
But but but it was exactly what we needed to do. And was
it hard. There's like pulling teeth to get people to do this. And
you didn't want to sign for just one event, you want to sign for
five. Yeah, we need eight people for each event. Yeah yeah,
But I mean it's one of those This is part of the learning curve of
you know, our whole you know, organization for two seventeen to get involved
in the community. It's not like we have. Even though as many ideas
as we have right off the bat, to have those actually take shape,
it takes a minute. It takes a lot of work. It takes a
lot of networking, it takes contacting people, it takes the getting the go
aheads, it takes filling out the forums. There's all kinds of stuff that
goes into it, and so little by little these things will become a regular
thing and we'll have like a normal schedule of what it is that we and
and we'll have new stuff that we decide we're going to do and come up
with, like our disc golf tournament. Yeah, that's come out up on
the twenty second. It would be fun. Yep. So we get that
and I'm going to organize that and um, and then we're going to be
volunteering weekly at Safe Harbor as well. So you know, the disc golf
event seems like it could be something that is one of our quarterly events.
Yeah, we could do that. So like if we wanted to have a
disc golf tournament, you know, where we do a tournament and people win
stuff, you know, we could do that in the future, or maybe
a golf tournament. I don't know, Well, what it would be weather
permitting. You couldn't do it quarterly. It could be one of them.
I wouldn't do that same event quarterly. I would not do that same event
quarterly. I'm just saying we have some quarterly events that we can do,
sure, so that's why I mentioned that. But it would be fun in
the winter though, Yeah, says everybody who else is doing one. I'm
about breaking records here. I didn't three podcasts and one day from three locations
in northern Michigan. Nobody's ever done that yet. I'm the first ever to
broadcast a podcast from the Pepsi tent at the Cherry Festival. Very true.
Now, it was very difficult for me to listen to it, and I
listened back because we had the mics that you pin on, the lapel mics,
which don't sound o. They don't sound too bad. But the fact
was like Mitch had one on and he was like helping people on that side
of the tent, and I was like walking around on the other side of
the tent, so I didn't know when he was talking. He didn't know
when I was talking. I thought it was neat though, because it was
kind of like real time chaos, you know, yeah, fun, but
hey, breaking records man, sw I'm about so if we did a disc
golf tournament in the winter, it might be cool. What? No way?
Never? No, we went and well, I guess we didn't really
Well, No, we drove by it today. Uh, there's piece of
property we're like checking out, you know, just because we like wasting people's
time. And we drove by and you were like, because there's a truck
in the driveway, and you're like, oh, I hope a single guy
lives there. Totally took that totally the wrong way. Totally the wrong way.
I mean, what do you do when your wife says that to you?
No? So, okay, so we're going there, No, I
we we're tentatively looking because we're tired of renting. We're tired of renting an
apartment. It's a money pit. And I know that the market is not
great right now, but we're at least getting out there and looking and seeing
what's out there. Right And so we we're driving by this property, which
is he is a conduc meaning it's attached right to another residence. And why
I said that was I was saying because it originally when we were driving.
They were like, watch the people that are living in that are be our
neighbors will be like a family of six and like these crazy children, you
know, or obnoxious parents, you know, who knows what? You don't
know what you're getting too, Like we should ask to meet whoever it is
who's going to be our neighbors before we sign anything regardless. And why I
said that was I was like, it'd be easy, like no worries,
Like he's on doing his thing, you don't care. That was funny though,
Yeah, real funny. Yeah, we drive up there there's a truck,
I said, in the driveway, and then here, oh, man,
I hope it's a single guy that lives next door. I did not
mean it's like, I hope it's a single woman. And you're like what,
no, I didn't know. Like that's that's fine. I mean somebody
who's just doing their own things. Somebody's just doing their own thing. Okay,
yeah, just gave me pulsit. Yeah pass her dad gets it.
Yeah, And I noticed. And here's me being all spiritual. I know
that in the address it has a two, has a one, has a
seven. It does I'm like, well, that's our angel pointing us over
there, un that's my angel. Anyway, you aren't even seen an inside
probably well. And then I'm was told oh, tuesday at five, I'm
like, oh, sounds good. And then today I was told no,
it's tomorrow. At five fifteen. I'm like, oh, I got the
Human Rights Commission in Traverse City tomorrow. Because I'm on the commission, I'm
a commissioner, so I have to kind of be there. And I'm like,
wait what? And then I felt stupid, like oh, why would
I tell you? I'm like, I don't know, and I'm like beating
myself up mentally. I'm like, well, the reason why I'm mad is
because I made a mistake and I didn't realize. I don't know why,
because I've known about this. I've been looking forward to this meeting, in
particular because there's some people that are coming that are gonna say some stuff that
I think is really gonna open some other people's eyes, you know. So
I'm like really excited. Why would I not even think about that? I
was like, I don't know. Maybe you asked me when I was putting
together a video. I have no idea why I forget about it. But
I'm beating myself up, but I'm angry at myself. And then I go
to check my phone later and I'm checking through the what I got to going
on this weekend? I'm like okay, And then Tuesday, oh yeah,
five pm, looking at house, no rewind, I said, we have
an option Monday at five, Monday at five, or Tuesday between one thirty
and two thirty. Those were our options. And you were like, I
don't know what I have going on Monday night. I remember you saying that,
and then that was a conversation. So I remember that being Tuesday,
and you're like, oh, Ryan really wants to meet Tuesday. And I
was like, okay, no, like, I have nothing going on Tuesday
that I can think of, and I looked at my phone. No,
I said, we can. He's up from Monday or Tuesday after one,
anytime after one. And then I looked at my schedule and I said when
I was going to be a bit. And then you'd had no response at
all about anything. She wants to meet the neighbor. I don't want to
take her husband with her. I get it. Maybe we should play the
intimacy game. We can't play the intimacy game. Ah Son's where that is.
And I'm all like, oh, our angel number. You're like,
oh, I hope they're single. Oh my gosh, it was not even
I was. You're totally reading it the wrong way. But well, I
mean I don't put it past you. So m okay, Well I'm glad
that we're married today and that's all that really matters. That's all we got,
right, Yes, yeah, we got And we're really looking forward to
starting an art class like art, not art class, but an art group
because art can you call it recovery expressions? That's what I'm meant to say.
Oh okay for the single people. No, we we kind of got
the idea from what you've been talking about our therapy for a long time and
how to incorporate it. And then one of the other our CEOs is actually
doing something like that, so we're like, we should revisit that idea,
and here we are. So yeah, we're that's on the to do list
as well. Yes, we got some shirts coming in and they'll be here
this week. So we're going to have one day, I don't know what
to figure it out and talk to different people that would want to run the
group and see how we can get it funded as well. You know,
some stuff might be easier than other shirts. You know, if people bring
their own shirts, you know, do we just provide the vinyl and help
them cut it and show them how to how to do it. Yeah,
it can be done an hour easily, you know, but because you would
have to put the graphics together or help them show them whatever. Yeah.
But and maybe the first time they come, it's like, okay, let's
just plan what you're trying to put on a shirt or whatever. You know,
cups don't really, I mean you haven't. There's a special thing you
can use for cups and we don't have that yet. But maybe we can
get that with funding. So we'll see, but it'll be be pretty interesting.
In the Recovery Dads logo, I want to get that on some stuff
because I think that's a pretty cool logo. And that's a meeting that Adam
runs on Sundays at ten am. And I don't know if he's gonna move
that. I mean, some people are like, oh dude, I love
you know, hitting a meeting Sunday morning at ten and I don't know.
Maybe it was the Cherry Festival. Like I felt bad for Adam because the
first week he has meeting, it was Mother's Day, and then the next
week it was something else, and then it was like this next week it
was something else, kind of with the cherry Fest wrapping down and people not
really want to get out on traffic and stuff. So I kind of feel
bad for him because there's like three weeks in a row where it really wasn't
the best turnout time or yeah, it wasn't the best turnout, wasn't the
best time to even start it, But that's just Satan trying to bring him
down. Well, I think it's a great idea and I'm I hope that
it takes shape. I think it will. Yeah, if you're a dad,
you know, and maybe Recovery Moms is on the way soon, hopefully,
because if you think of all the crap that you have to deal with
when you're in recovery and you're a dad, you know, whether you're married
or not, whether you're single dad married dad didn't matter, you know,
and the family is counting on you for a lot of different things. And
like Adam was telling me, which I can do an interview with Adam about
this and he'll tell you all about it. But when he got out stream
and he's like, okay, well cool, I gotta go to you know,
this meeting. Tight. This is my meetings when I go to oh,
well you got to do this and this and this round the house exactly.
I won't do any of that. Let's I'm sober, so let me
go to this meeting. You know. And some of our family members they
don't understand. I think, Okay, he went to treatment. Oh he
wants to stream it again. This is a fifth time of treatment. He
got out, he's learned everything, Like, you know what you need to
do, now just do it. Don't go to that stupid meeting. It's
not going to help you, you know, like they don't understand like that
meeting is a huge crucial part, yeah, of his life in early recovery,
you know. And I know women had probably go through the same thing.
You know. It's like and especially if their kids involved and him,
Mom, can you watch the kids. I'm tired tired of watching them.
Kids. You can run off to the meetings. Well that's how I keep
the kids, That's how I stay sober, you know what I mean.
And to just how to get that out in a room full of people who
understand and get it, you know. That's that's what I think is the
huge part of it. And not that anybody's gonna have an answer for you
of what to say perfectly and nothing like that, but just that you get
to vent and you get to let it out. And that's what support groups
for is talking about the challenges. And you're right, that's not like anybody
sometimes are looking for a solution. There might not be one. It's just
keep doing what you're doing, keep chipping away, keep trucking with you know,
your recovery and whatever that looks like to you, to have another day
clean and sober, you know. And that's why being around other people,
like minded people that are going through the same experiences, you don't feel so
alone. And maybe there'll be someone in there who has the perfect thing that
they told their loved one, you know, like, well, I was
getting in that same stuff and I was told this, and you know,
maybe that they won't even say that. Maybe they'll say I was leaving and
my mom was giving me grief, or my dad was giving me grief,
for my husband was given me whoever was giving me grief, Because I'm coming
to this meeting and I just sat him down and said, look, I
have to go to this meeting in order to be here for you later today.
You know, like, this is something that we have to do.
And I'm sorry that you're in this situation, but you married me and or
you've birthed to me, or you were there with mom when you made me,
and I would like to be around for you later. So just allow
me this and trust me. Nobody's in there hooking up at least I'm not.
I'm going there to get some things off my chest and whatever. And
once I told him that it was fine, it was great and they understood
and it was wonderful and somebody can hear then go hm. So that way,
when someone comes at them with the same kind of thing, they can
be like, ah, I know how to do this. Yeah, we
go get my knife. Not just kidding, don't do that, no way.
Sorry messing up what it's like. I was on Facebook. I liked
his videos. Yeah it's funny. He's funny, So what no way,
guys for Canada. It takes different hacks and then he tries them out and
see if they see if they work. Sometimes they do and sometimes they don't.
But it's pretty funny. Some of them are pretty clever, so I
like that. Now it's a drop, so I haven't a drop. I
don't remember what it is because it's been a while. Because we're in the
original, we'll not the original, but we're in the I guess it could
be the original studio because before we didn't have a studio at all. So
right, and this board is different than says Mitchell B I don't want it
means should I hit it? Sure? Bye? Oh bye? Oh premature
there. Well, yeah, I thinks Mitchell, hi bye, you didn't
even say hi and are the same bye. Yeah, that's the problem of
having multiple locations. I know. Great, Yeah, I kind of go
through and like something that we do with Spreaker is kind of weird because if
you pull us up on like Apple podcasts, we don't even have a description
in there. It's just like whatever the last episode is is what it says.
And I was like an other ones, I'm like waiting, mite,
other people have different stuff in here. And then I was looking at like
high Search Recovery Research sober we don't show about in neither of those searches.
I'm like, what, no way, Like we have more podcasts on all
these people, but I know they were saying something about, oh, well,
the more people that rate you rate your podcast on those platforms, and
I'm like, well, some people listen on iHeart radio, you know,
some people listen on Spotify. Some people listen to our app. We have
our own app or we post them. So I don't know rate or app
rate us in those but how would you listen to us? Rate us?
Right? Us? Good? So we show up. But I think I'm
going to go through and try to change the the stuff through the actual iTunes
or Apple. I think what I do is just I don't know what I
do, but I'm sure you figure it out. Yeah, because this doesn't
make sense that we wouldn't pull up at all, like people that I haven't
done a podcast in five years around there, and I'm like, wait,
I do have three podcasts, and yeah, that is a little odd.
Ye, I don't know. Get to the bottom of it, because I
want to get to the top, get the bottom to get to the top.
There you go. I tell people it's thought about how many people that
listen, and it's not. But if people are looking for us, you
know, we're looking for a recovery podcast. I've listened to some of them
some all right, most of them not my cup of tea. If they're
not my cup of tea, that means they're not someone else's cup of tea.
And we're not everybody's cup of tea either, right, for sure,
but just to be but to be seen. Yeah, I listened to your
live right podcast. Yeah with help me Hereandy. Yeah, that was good.
She's good. I like her. Yeah you liked it. Yeah,
I'm a big old fan. Ahead. No, I think it's great.
I think she's very brave for doing it on like on video. I would
not be a big fan of that. It would give me one more reason
to not be able to make time because I'd be like, oh no,
I need to like look decent, like not being my pajamas. Yeah,
I'll share that on Facebook or something, even though like it only lets me
share it with like two people, but because when you post it only show
so many people, however many, but at least it'll be there. So
if you're looking for if you want to see that interview, it's about a
half hour or so. Yeah, it's like thirty five minutes. Yeah,
Yeah, that was fun. It was good what to have her on the
podcast? Yeah, one that you're on. Awesome, looking forward to it.
Cool and when you need new artwork too, need artwork. We need
new artwork for our podcasts. Oh oh yeah, I'm noticing that looking at
other people's stuff, like we needed our faces or something there. Okay,
so you know, it's about that time I started designing the new one for
the podcast. I didn't think that I ever ended last year. I didn't
really, I just used our regular I made a new logo for two seventeen
Recovery, and I just kind of use that for whatever. So, yeah,
we need to make like a real one if we're going to be at
the top of the game with the podcast Ladies or whatever they're called are sober
Man's Podcast or whatever he's calling. But thank you, yeah, thanks for
coming by today. Oh you're welcome. Appreciate you out there. I know
you're working on your paper and not looking for single men. No I'm not.
I'm definitely working on my paper and I am literally the end is in
sight for I finishing my college stuff. I'm just being done. How do
you feel I'm still carrying a little anxiety just because it's not done, you
know. And um, but I'm also I'm also excited. I'm also excited,
and there's a lot of new experiences. They're you know, eating me
professionally. So yeah, I'm really excited about that. But one day at
a time, just gotta just keep doing it until I'm there, you know.
So we'll hang in there and it'll be over soon and football be here
and then the whole new chapter of your life will probably start. And thank
you for your support through everything with my schooling. It's been not the easiest
on you too. So when I acknowledge that, thank you, Yeah,
I do what I can. I know, I know you do. Okay,
I'm glad that you're finishing and that you're that you actually went out and
did something that you wanted to do and that you were going to accomplish it
faster, because you could have slowed it down and went and slower and took
your time might have been easier on you, but you just hunker down and
just said nope, I'm gonna take on this and I'm gonna do it.
Yeah, I'm gonna finish it. Yep. So that's got to feel great.
And how does it feel to know like you're because sometimes I struggle with
this myself when you know that you're like your mom and dad's favorite child.
Like, I mean, isn't it difficult to be around them in the same
room and they're like trying to like kiss up and stuff, and you just
like I put her through hell, I put him through hell, and I'm
still the favorite. Like stop, don't you just want to tell him stop?
Yeah, there's I mean I think that I think that being on the
other side of my addiction, and there's this like obviously appreciation that our parents
have for us, you know, and the fact that they stuck with us
through some extremely hard times. That's that's a connection that other siblings can't,
you know, can't find that parent. You know. There's this kind of
like vulnerability and trust that wasn't there for a long time, you know,
and now it is, and it's like it makes the relationship so much stronger,
you know. And um, So I don't know if I'm I can't
say that I know that I'm a favorite child, but I know that we're
for sure. I definitely, I definitely have have, you know, a
relationship with both of my parents. It's different, they're different relationships with each
of them, but they're they're a lot more real, you know, in
real time, real with then compared to my siblings. I've never seen him
wearing a shirt with your brother's name on it, because my brothers never make
a shirt for him with his name on it. No, probably not if
he had a business or he has a business, doesn't name, Yeah,
have shirts. We should make them, Ma, sure for his business.
We should do that. And you said it to your dad and not even
telling us, not from your brother. And let's see which one he wears
all the time. This is my favorite neuroscience shirt. Yeah, yeah,
I am extremely proud of my siblings. They've accomplished a lot in their life.
They've had their own struggles themselves, you know, independent of you know,
it had nothing to do with substance use. But um, you know,
I'm not dismissing those you know, the fact they've gotten through hard times
or whatever. But um, I don't know. Yeah, there's something to
be said about the getting through a difficult time and then having your parents be
part of the solution when you're on the other side of it. There's why
I brought the ups because something my dad may or may not have said to
me. You know, Corey, you're my favorite child. Oh and we
had that same kind of broken relationship. And if you have been listening to
the podcast from the beginning, he probably heard the letter. And I wrote
the letter, and then I was worried about the response and this and that,
and you know, it wasn't always good, you know, And I
texted him and me nasty text telling him he was pretty much piece of shit,
you know. And I was drunk when I did it. You know,
I'm not proud of that. I did get some things off my chest.
I wish I would have done that in a different way. Now that
I'm sober, I realized this. But he too, would rather move forward
and except that, yeah, sorry if I said some things that hurt you,
but I'm not sorry I said them, you know, And that that's
kind of tough too, to have something, you know, tells somebody like,
I'm not sorry I said it because I said it for a reason and
it was on my it was on my chest. I wish I would have
done it differently, you know. But at the same time, it's like,
I'm glad that I'm not glad that I did it, but I'm not
sorry that I did it. So but yeah, to come back from that
and to have a relationship now. It just shows you the growth and that
we are in recovery. We've learned so much about ourselves and when we thought
we were at the end of the rope, and then we realized we weren't,
and that was still more pain and more suffering to come, and we
still made it through that and still more pain and suffering, and it really
helps us look at life different. I think where we can sometimes and it
takes practice pause, you know, we can stop and not just react to
situations where we could think them through and realize what we can and can't control,
and what we can control is how we act, you know, and
our emotions will play a huge factor in that a lot of times, and
when we were drinking and using, it really wasn't easy to control those emotions.
And it's still a lot easy, but it's a lot more manageable,
you know, when you can think, no, not my thing, not
going to get in it, or you can just look at somebody, you
know. I've had to have conversation with the mom like no, I didn't
appreciate that or this and that, you know, and she tells me the
same thing. Oh well, I didn't appreciate this or that, and I'm
like, okay, well, well, in part of part of the healing
process of you know, dealing with our addiction is figuring out these coping mechanisms
in different ways to live, in different ways to handle problems, right opposed
to drugs and alcohol. And so we're essentially lucky because we're more mindful and
self aware of us and how we function on a daily basis with like the
world than the average human being, right, I mean, we're more like
self aware and that's a word intentional about you know, how we handle things,
because we know how we handle things in the past didn't work. And
so you know, we really are are lucky in that way. And I'm
not saying there's not people in recovery that aren't I mean a hole still,
thank you. For sure, there for sure are. But for the most
part you look at life differently. You really do, so that I'm grateful
as am I amen. Word all right, bye, bye, Mitchell.
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