All right, yourere you go here. I am groovy. I'm feeling good
here with my friends. Way on a yes from Kyle. That's not a
mic, so I can't hear you. Yeah, good to go. Hello,
ladies, gentlemen, welcome back to the X Men retrospective. Oh boy,
oh boy, I don't think I got that. Oh no, oh
no, I'm really I'm the unprepared drass snail. Oh I am the very
groovy Kyle Smith. Did you just look at your notes for your nickname?
No, I do like you did. I just had to make sure I
hide my notes. Okay, I am the totally liar, I don't.
I am the totally lion Kirklan Patzer. I also don't know if that sound
was needed directly in the mic, but it's okay, we're gonna roll with
it. That one. I don't know if that was testing the Uh what's
it called the windscreen? That's what it is? No, no, it
yeah, that's what a block. It doesn't block snake sounds into the like.
Uh, speaking of snakes, check out the Wolverine review that'll be coming
up after this, because we were reviewing every X Men film that we've never
reviewed we've never reviewed from X Men. A Day's of Future pass in honor
of Dark Phoenix coming out in just a mere few weeks. Here, that's
gonna end the X Men Fox films forever. So we are on x Men
first class. I'm gonna give synopsis, then we're gonna get into this notes
talking about the whole whole shebang, the whole bank. In the nineteen sixties,
superpower humans Charles Xavier, not mutet, superpowered humor humans Charles Xavier and
Eric Lencher work together to find others like them, but Eric's vengeful pursuit of
ambitious Mune who ruined his life, causes to divide them. Really, that's
it? Great? Wow, I guess kind of Yeah. Well, I
feel like this isn't a bad thing. I feel like a lot's going on
in this movie. And I say that not on the way like X three
and Origins. I feel like most of makes sense. So I feel like
this is maybe the only way you could try to try wrap this all together.
You know, they don't mention any of the other X Men or like
the war going on, but they're not wrong. It is about Charles and
Eric. It does take place in the sixties, and you know it takes
place over multiple time periods. So it starts in the forties, right,
yeah, yeah, yeah, it does it ends in the Does it end
in the sixties. I thought we were in like the eighties. No,
sixties Cuban missile crisis. Clearly, I don't know min that didn't happen.
I thought I thought it was more like Cold War. No, and then
I should have read the synopsis. No, that's enough for me. They
kind of just sound like that made from Family Guy. Nowinzaila, I don't
clean know. I don't watch The X Men. No, I'll just go
because I'm still talking, and I'll thought over you I was talking. I
like this movie a lot. I think I find I forget about how much
I do like it until I plug it in. There's so much to like
about this movie. The number one thing is Michael Fastbenner. This is the
movie that I fell in love with him. He added the man crushed list.
Everything from the way he's acting to what he's wearing. Man, those
turtlenecks that man can fill out a turtle. Oh yeah, he is just
rock and all this, all these outfits. Man, He's just he's just
oh yeah, he's just a smooth motherfucker. And I think it's because of
certain things that happened this movie. And I think it's too late now because
he's too old. But I remember seeing this be like man, he has
to be James Bond, like this is. He's pretty much James Bond in
like the first half this movie. He's great. Other people are good to
in this movie. James McAvoy is really good, but I feel like his
his better movie is coming up, probably in the next when we get to
Day's Future Pass. But I still think he's great in this. I think
I've appreciated him a lot more over the years. I think with Fassbender he
had such a good, strong, flashy performance, I kind of forget about
how good macvoy is it Professor X, but he's great. I really like
the villain. I'm a big Kevin Bacon fans, so I think this checks
all the boxes for me. I don't have I have negatives, but they're
all kind of little quivels and whatnot. I think I think action's fine in
this movie. I think there's some cool immune power stuff, but I think
some actual fight scenes are a little anti climactic. I think it's just some
plot structuring. I don't know how to feel about it because we got Days
of Future pass, but I felt this movie does go through things very quickly,
like we just we're just steamrolling through storyline storyline, We're mean people quick
reform a team, people are dying left and right, just tons of stuff
happened. I think that kind of hurts it so and I also love the
score. The score in this movie is phenomenal. So I'm excited to talk
about this. But yeah, this is definitely in the higher echelon X Men
movies for me. I have some negaves that will about when we get more
into it. But I am a big fan of this movie, and I
forget how good it is until I watch it. Okay, I'll go next,
but I think I've only seen this movie. This could be my only
second time watching this movie. Honestly, first time was when it got placed
on Netflix. Unlucky it wasn't on Netflix again because I had to stream it
and I had no subtitles. So you really appreciate Michael Fast on iTunes of
course. Legally, yeah, legally, I turned subtitles off though, because
I wanted to test my Japanese. Yeah. Well, that's the next movie
that we'll get to that later. No, So I sorry, let me
restart that. Though I choked on my tongue there. First time I watched
this movie, I really really liked it. I probably would have given it
like a nine point five out of ten. Coming for my second go around,
I kind of had the opposite of what Travis was saying, how the
more he watches it, the more he loves it. I had total opposite
effect. I found a lot of things that I didn't like, kind of
got irked with Kyle's nudden I'm hoping. I'm hoping he'll agree with me.
Cards show, I'll tell them why they're both so wrong. Well, this
is a personal review right now, Travis, I don't want your opinions.
This episode called tras Reviews with Guests. I might actually title that because I
don't have a sexy title for this one. I always like, oh,
is it that bad? BA? Maybe I won't give him my nickname the
guests. There you go. Yeah, there was just certain things that I
feel like they just didn't like bug me the first time watching, Maybe just
because it's all new and I'm not really like grasping at all. Because you
know, the first time you watch a movie, you miss things, so
a couple of things I was kind of irked with. I'll go into it
more details later in the film, but overall, I thought it was really
great. Out of all the other ones we watched so far, I think
it's definitely one of the best X Men movies that they've made. Huge,
huge shouts out to Fassbender and McAvoy. Those two. I didn't think anyone
could beat the Patrick Stewart, ian Ian McKellan, yep, Ian McKell ian
McKellen like chemistry. But those two, oh man, they looked so great
together, and like if you take them just as actors, I could never
have pictured like those two having like great chemistry. I don't know, it's
just certain people you just like pick out and you think they have great chemistry,
like example, like Brad Pitt, George Clooney, something like that,
like some Ocean's eleven chemistry, Whereas like these two, when I first look
at them, I wouldn't really see it. But in this movie, they
were phenomenal. I felt like they were just a younger version of Patrick Stewart
Ian McKellen at certain points. You obviously fast Bender's performance was impeccable near perfection.
But uh I really really appreciated uh mcavoye geez interpretation of Xavier. Yes,
he because like, obviously this is younger Exavier. He's not even professor
when this movie first starts, and he's just slick. He's like reading chicks
minds to like take them home with him. Right, He's just he's so
smooth, and it's funny, like a couple a couple of times he used
like the same line on multiple chicks. It was just like the mutations,
did you know? And then mystique is all like just getting annoyed with who
knows how many times she's heard that? Right, But uh no, he
was just smooth and the way that he was using his his talents for just
I don't know personal reasons. I just loved it because, like, you
don't get to see that with older Patrick Stewart, right, he's wise and
no exactly, so I don't know. I liked it was a little more
of a comedic side of a comedic side to Xavier. So yeah, I
loved it. I liked a lot. I'll say a majority of like the
younger versions of the people. The main one is beast I really am not
a fan of this version of Beast. It might be one of my main
I was gonna say, I was trying to wait to hear what your negatives
were. Beast is that. Yeah, I'm kind of with you, especially
when we just had Kelsey Grammar's Beast too. That movie is not good,
but go check out our review. We all know, like when I was,
I know, I'm kind of jumped later in the movie, but like
when he actually becomes Beast and he's just like all CGI and it's so bad.
He's not all c g I. He is like when he talks,
yeah, he that kind of it looks like he has a lot of botox,
Like his lips aren't moving, but he's like words are coming out and
it's just like especially since, like you said, we just saw X two
his version of Beast, I feel the guy's name or I would have said
it Kelsey Grammer, Kelsey Grammar Grammar. Yeah, like you just call him
Fraser, Okay, I'll do that. I actually didn't know he was Frasier.
Don't know. No, no, I know all that blue hair.
I can't put scram great show. Uh yeah, overall, I really like
the movie. I'll go into my negatives later. Nice. Overall, I
really liked the movie as well too. I think the first time I seen
it or saw it, sorry, I was with Travis in the theater.
I think that's gonna be a hard nose. Me and him didn't know each
other, getting them all mixed up. Now, Oh you know what,
I'm big here. Wolverine. Yeah yeah, the Wolverine, this guy on
twenty eleven, Oh yeah, twelve twelve. Yeah, okay, so never
mind then. But anyway, so the first time I saw Yeah, maybe
you guys were in the same theater or it was like maybe we pre watched
it before go and see that. I could have been it could have been
it, or it could have been him. Just been like, who's that
dashing white guy in the theater? Clearly he didn't forget me once we met
him. My best buy, which many people best Buy said the exact same
thing about me. So I got a great smile this guy. Some people
said infectious smile. So I'm going to move on from that. So anyways,
I really like this movie. I thought it was really good. There's
like them using the different languages and kind of just kind of brought in their
Uh. I should say sets and scenes as well too. I thought it
was cool. Yeah, we move a lot through, like I guess,
plots by everything everything. It was a lot smoother than XT three, though
I must ask it was you said that already, but like comparing it to
X three, that was just a because we moved through stuff quick. But
it all, it's about the same storyline, right where X three is like,
oh, there's three different things going on. Yeah. No, So
I really enjoyed this. I don't have actually too many negatives about it.
I think there's a bit of parts where I had more problems with characters more
than kind of the overall ide I guess idea or a plot that was happening.
So but we'll get into that in a little bit. But overall,
I enjoyed it. What I was gonna ask you because you're talking about the
subtitles and this is not even my notes ornthing that I feel like this is
not and it's not because it's radar. I feel like this is the least
i'd say kid friendly X men because I feel like it's kind of dry.
I feel like I don't know, like I don't know if it's I feel
like maybe once the young kids get introduced maybe, but there's just lots of
there's lots of subtitles. I think the beginning for adults a fast that I
go around hunting Nazis is cool, but I don't think for kids, like,
I don't think there's that much fantastical stuff happening in this movie so near
the end, once they're using their powers and MacNeil's like lifting subs and whatnot.
Like, I don't think this is a movie where you'd show a key
and they're gonna fall in love with X. I feel like they could be
bored and walk away. Then yeah, I don't like this kind of say
that for like X two as well, though, Like I like, when
I think of X two, I don't really but X two starts off hot
and heavy with Nightcrawl though right a kid could fallout with ncrow like I can't
wait to see that blue guy again, you know, or like saying it's
more like, okay, I see what you're saying. I was popping off
from the capetier. I feel like I like, if I brought like my
like seven year old cousin or like six year old cousin, they would be
really confused of what's happening that is or not confused, but like not that
entertained because there's a lot of dialogue and a lot more character development, which
is what I enjoy a movie. But you know, as a as a
child, you want to see all the action. You want to see a
lot of comedy, and there's a bit of that, but not really so
and like what because honestly, you have the first scene, which is the
recreation of X one, which I really like, Magneo getting take away.
But then after that, when's the next time we get action? Is it
not until I guess it's probably Magneto killing Well, it's Magneto taking that guy's
like metal tooth out, but that's not like a huge action scene. And
even even the scene in the bar when he takes out those Nazis, it's
very subdued, like the big Kevin Bacon when he when they throw the grenades.
Yeah, I was gonna say it, not until we get to the
boat, which is yeah, quite a way into the movie, until we
get like a big action piece, right, even then he takes the grenade
and then it's like, oh and that guy goes away. It's not until
fastbender and then like the CIA at the same time, Fine Shaw and there's
like that big boat battle and Rowand's throwing tornadoes at people, like it's not
I don't know, i'd have to time clock that. But that's the first
huge action, so that's probably an hour in honestly close too. Yeah,
so that's why I think for that. I think with X two there's lots
of talking, but there's always like maybe every fifteen minutes, there's a claw
scene, there's a mansion scene, there's a cyclopskin his ask security scene,
you know. So yeah, so we're still a tradition here. X or
first Class starts off, we get two flashbacks or two openings. You got
Magneto's and then you get Exaviers and then you get Magneedles kind of uh,
I don't know, expand it upon. What do we think about this?
Amazing? It was unreal both of them. Actually, I like both of
them, the first one. So the Magneto's opening as well too, Like,
I guess we're even over really liiving X two one's very first movie.
I thought it was the same scene. Honestly. The only get they do
like a shot for shot, the one that's different as the kid Okay,
yeah, yeah, but they tried their best to make it look identical.
Very yeah, but yeah, I know it was really good. I even
liked the whole like interaction as him as a child and Kevin Bacon, I
forget what his character's name, Sebastian Shaw. Sebastian Shaw, leader of the
hell Fire Club. So I thought even that was really good and just you
know, the intensity of watching that scene was I really enjoyed it and really
show like even though that even for that kid, like he did a pretty
decent job of what he did. So mm hmmm, I don't know,
I really enjoyed the beginning of this movie. It could be completely honest.
I like the build up and you know, getting to know more of these
characters because I find in X one, x two, x three, like
we don't really get too much. That's kind of I shouldn't say too much.
It's just hasn't wasn't as well done as this was. So they really
flushed out the beginnings of you know what we know as Magneto and yeah,
Exaviers, Yeah no, I totally agree with you. I because like I
don't know, if I look at a movie like on paper and they just
like say that it starts off with two flashbacks of like two characters, like
back to back. I'm like, it's like, can we just get into
the movie, you know, but like they don't seem like like they're not
short by any means, but they don't seem like too long, and like
obviously, like if you've seen X one, it's like a very it's a
redone version of that flashback scene. But like the two main characters in this
movie are Exavier and Jesus. I almost said fast better, and I would
argue there's three. To be honest, I would argue Mystique gets in there
too, Yeah, because like that Xavier flashback is hers as well, and
I feel like him, well I shouldn't pronounce pal uh. Magneto and Professor
Ax's story are really combined where I feel like Mystique story is really with beasts
and then the younger actually like they are the guy, Like the two fers
are around the young people, but they're just more to like shame them and
be like we thought better, Like they're they're still like the teachers, right,
they're not. So that's why I feel like she still works as the
third handle, Like yeah, we're in the act like, even though they
fleshed out Magneto X one to three, is still just all Wolverine story.
And I love wolver but he's the only one that gets really like Magneto.
They give you enough to be like, oh, this is why he's not
a complete piece of ship, but really he's just off in the distance doing
bad guy stuff. I feel like, I don't know screen time, but
I feel like those three get not maybe an equal amount, but close,
you know, Like Mystique is in it quite a bit, which always surprises
me when this first came out, because you think about her in the first
trilogy. It was a strange choice to me to do this whole, like,
oh, her and Charles were best friends and they lived together and it
makes zero sense, but they just they roll with it. So yeah,
so yeah, going back to the flashback scenes, they really worked for me,
like the one with Charles and how they explain how Mystique came into his
life and just I don't know, I thought it was funny, like my
mother has never been in this guy, Yeah exactly. She's never said put
in this kitchen, let alone, would like know how to cook? Blah
blah blah. It's just like okay, but no, like they were.
They weren't too long. They especially how it ended with the extended one on
Magneto and it like the coin. I loved how it flipped and then it
just goes X men first class. I just love that. And then it
goes into him spinning it in his hand. Yeah, he's just sitting there.
Like the transitions were so smooth, and it just like when it brings
us in, it's not modern day, but modern day for the movie,
I guess it's the sixties. It's just we're not living in this modern day
if you lived in the sixties. But I don't know. It just it
just started very smoothly, and I appreciate it and I liked it. I
think the whole movie, for the most part, is smooth. The only
part I put in my notes is jumping way to the end, but it's
right before the Cube missile crisis, and it's just like Sebastian Shaw talking to
that army guy and they're showing like clips of JFK talking and everything like that.
I think it's needed because you got to set that up for you know,
like Kurtim say, not good with history. I'm not going with history,
so you got to set up the like, oh, this is what
was happening in this time period. But it's just it's only like five to
ten minutes. But it's five ten minutes. I don't care about the setup
of the work. It's like I like that they're putting in like a historical
place, but I'm here just to see the X Men either lose or win
or whatnot. But it's fine. I think that's the only time for me.
It doesn't work. The pacing, it's it kind of stops dead haul
and be like, oh, we got to give you a bunch of exposition
to tell you about, like what's happening in Cuba, and then we'll go
back to Magneto flipping a satellite and you know, stuff like that. Because
if I feel like, if they didn't show JFK for like me, the
person that doesn't really know back in the sixties what's happened, I've been like,
Okay, they just fabricated this whole thing, right, right, it's
just a fictional Yeah, yeah, I know. I like them too.
I like Exaviers a lot. It's a good setup, and I like magn
Needo's It's it's good. I think it shows back to back how you look
at the upbringing. We don't know much. Okay, so many Xavier and
his mum weren't perfect, but it seems like he just still has a nice,
great life and he's like very cordial and very caring with mystique. And
then you flip right over to Magniedo, who's the same age, just having
this awful yeah, and you can see why they grow up in such different
ways. And even though even though Charles says they don't have the same goal,
they do, it's just in a very very different way. And I
like that that back to back you see these main characters that want to achieve
the same thing, but that their lives got magno diffite got the the deal
or Xavier, Yeah, maybe he didn't have a perfect life, but really
he was just tel canisis kind of a good looking British guy, so it's
not that bad. Like even pokes fun at that at some point in this
movie as well too. The mansion, right, yeah, yeah, really
exactly. Yeah, And obviously Magneil seems like he's been living like place to
place, like he hasn't been settled. He's just going around killing you know,
pig farmers and yeah, uh, and then after that we go out
there or did you want anything say on that? Okay you're saying, and
then we got to jump way to the future. We had our first U
two scenes of one. You got Magneil and I guess I'll keep just going
back and forth with them both. You got Magneedo, he goes to that
bank place and he gets some information with the tooth. And then you also
have over there you got h Xavier trying his little tricks on some ladies.
But then Raven gets in there and kind of embarrasses him and you know,
pulls the jig up. So what do we think of the introductions of older
characters? And you guys both didn't talk about Jennifer Lawrence's mystique. So that's
what I wanted to get more. I wanted to save my negatives for later.
Whoa getting into it? Oh yes, he'll start the positive McAvoy.
I think I've already touched upon it. I just loved how like smooth he
seems, and like he already said, like he's just a handsome, young
young British dude, right he has everything, Yeah, just got a diplomas
professor, like he's already got like like a base set for like picking up
chicks of like the good looks smarts. What his doctorate? Yeah, I
don't care. He's smart, smarter than me. Does he not have a
diploma? He gets his doctorate later in the movie hang on, But does
he not have a diploma? No, you would get a degree. But
do you know for a fact he doesn't have a diploma? And anything I
do anything? Guess that the other guests too taught guest so disrespectful. Yeah,
I was talking about James McAvoy. He's awesome. Going to Jylaw.
I liked her as like the human like just as herself, I guess,
like not as mystique exactly, Like I don't know she it's hard to like,
I don't know, say anything too like special for her because like I
don't know, a lot of people probably just like the actress and think that
she does a lot better job than what she might be doing as mystique because
like for me, I didn't see too much of a difference. I know
it's going into rough waters here, but like talking about like the original trilogy
of that version of Mystique, like sure they wrote this type of Raven like
a lot more important role as opposed to that first original trilogy. But for
me overall, I felt like they're kind of similar, like when they switch
forms, nothing's too different, like other than when she's just always in Raven
form right as Jaylaw. So I wasn't a fan of her as Blue form
either. I think it's just like the Jaylaw eyes, Like all I saw
was Jennifer Lawrence. Oh okay, she was like, I don't know,
it's hard to describe being like a big actress. Does that take away from
the movie then for me? Like are you saying like if I were to
compare it as a like another big time female actress, I guess like a
smaller like if it was an actress that you didn't really know, because you're
when you think the movie like obviously the X one, the first X trilogy,
Yeah, you're looking at that like you don't really know who the end?
No, yes, Well, meanwhile, like when you watch this movie
like I'm watching Jennifer Lawrence. Yeah, I think that's what it was for
me, even the first time watching it, Like obviously I liked it a
lot more than I did the second time, but I feel like I just
dissected it more and instead of seeing mystique, I saw Jennifer Lawrence, and
I think that might have took a hit. Well when this movie recently came
out, originally she was not Jennifer Lawrence, like she's Jennifer Lawrence, but
she was not the big star she was when she was getting there. She
was, but you wouldn't have known who Jennifer was after Games, all right,
yeah is it? Yeah? I think it is pretty after. I
don't know. Okay, well, Travis is gonna check. I think it's
pretty. I think Hunger Games is after because she didn't blow up. She
was in a movie called Winter's Bone and that's when she got some acclaim.
No, Hunger Game was twenty twelve, so was a year after this,
so she's not blown up. So yeah, she was not jaylaw yet she
was show just Jennifer Lawrence. So I think it's I saw this on Netflix,
so I would have seen Hunger Games before I watched this fair enough attractively.
Yeah, exactly, see, I'll go because I'm not sure we're cause
you might be more on the Kirkland side. I am somebody that have said
and there's many people that say she shouldn't be mistique. I'm with them for
the most part. I think, as we were not gonna watch all the
other ones, but we've got days of future past with her. I think
as the movies go on, she gets less and less better because I think
she cares less and less. Especially even the makeup you can see gets worse
and worse because she doesn't care about that. That's why I'm so excited for
Figy to actually get the X Men, because there's not gonna be any this
shit of X people being like, oh I don't want anyn makeup this time.
No, no, no, you're doing the makeup you do, yeah,
exactly. So I'm excited to have things that are not like cgbast or
if they're gonna CEGB's do the whole thing that fast. I think in this
movie she is great. I actually do. I remember watches. I really
like it. I'm the difference of I don't actually see her at all like
that other Mystique. For the most I think she the only time she's in
that I think she's very cool. At times, I think she's like she
plays Mystique or Raven in a very like, playful, like sexy way,
which I feel like she doesn't do that in other movies where other like old
mystique is that way right, She's always just like she has a lot of
sexual libido going on, and she used that to her vantage. I feel
like there's a scene where her and Hank's getting her blood and she just like
gets close to him like on purposely to make him feel uncomfortable and presses against
I'm like, that's a very Mystique thing to do. So I think she's
great in this one. I think it's we'll do Day's Future Past and the
other ones or I feel like she just phones it in. So I like
her in this one. But as it goes on, and it's so strange
for me to watch her in this one because I really like her in this
role. I'm not a big fan of the role they did. The mistaque
Mystique in the comics is not really like this, but it's fine. They
want to do a change up. Sure, So yeah, I really like
her in this movie. Once we get Day's Future Past, we'll talk about
it. Well, I want to quick mention too. Like in her defense,
I kind of liked it was maybe like another like super subplot that they
had in there is just like the whole uh like her confidence with who she
is as like the blue mutant, right when you when you have magneto,
like in five hundred scenes, just walk in a room and say something and
then walk out. I like you the way you are and then he walks
out like you know, you're not using all your strength. Yeah, if
I look like you, I'd never change. He does have like threes.
I don't like the first time he did, he just seems so out of
the blue. Yeah, hard because he does the very first time he does
it is that same scene when Hank is taking her blood and he comes in.
He's like, ooh, Kinky. You know, they're they're literally like
about to kiss, and he just like steps in. I know, he's
just like just a huge cock block to Hank in this movie. But it's
great, Like I wish I had like a version of that in the Greek
the chat just like walking by Fastbender you know yeah, yeah, yeah,
they're Verse and Bran. Yeah they know Game of Thrones talk place. This
isn't the Game of Thrones podcast. I'm gonna check out Game of Thrones with
Travis and guests coming this fall. When we do ever, just yeah,
no retro game with Thrones. Once I'm done Star Wars, Clone Wars retro,
I'm done with TV retros for a while. They just take so long,
so long. Movies are fun though, movies are well, it's one
dam you think about Clone Wars, like and when we did Spider Man.
You're doing those like once or twice a week, and that's like I'm doing
two movies a week. Yeah, that feels like a lot about the episodes.
Yeah, So until we do this as a full time job, TV
retros is gonna be taking a little break for Trausy's santesty, Travis insanity.
Yeah. Going back to where I was on Jy Love, just like that
like internal conflict that she was facing. Like as Jennifer Lawrence is an actress,
I think she's phenomenal, Like she portrayed that a lot. Where she
was she was very like unsure at times whether like which side she wanted to
go on, whether she's I mean it doesn't really happen till the end,
but like the Magneto side or the Xavier side, but more of just like
if she wants to fit in with society or just be a mutant. So
I kind of liked that it wasn't a big part of the movie, but
I kind of liked how they used her for that and the way that she
acted that, So I'll give her credit for that. But I think it
is just like the if you want to call it, like the superstar effect
of just like you have a big time actress. Like Travis pointed out,
this is actually after Hunger or sorry, before Hunger Games, but I probably
watched this afterwards, so I probably still had that fresh my mind of Catnus
Eberdeen m so I volunteer Kyle the Middleman. Yeah, I think you guys
have really good points that I didn't really think of, Like with Travis,
like one of your points was that, you know, when she does that,
more of that, like I guess, like that sexier, like really
flirty, and I think that was good and for me at the same time,
this character is kind of very conflicting, and I can understand, you
know, like she's going through a lot of emotions of who she is type
thing, and I guess I just wanted her to be have a little bit
more confidence in what she was and and even with her some of her motives,
like it's kind of like, well, you've been with Xavier for this
long, like I would think you would be a little bit smarter than you
are, or at least like somewhat trained to a certain level, because trained
and what though, I don't know, well, because like I'm just thinking,
I guess back to the trilogy is that she's kind of like this assassin,
Like, oh, so I feel like I feel like that is the
time now and she goes with Magneto and he's gonna try christ Charles not assassin,
right, he's just getting his diploma. Yeah, but he's also like
just like he's training all these kids as well too, for like a couple
of weeks, right, yeah, but like even at that, like there
are a couple of weeks. They've been living together for how many years,
and I feel like he's been picking up chicks. But this is the thing
because up on that point, he's just at school there he's training those kids
because they're gonna go fight him, and Raven didn't have to go fight anything,
I guess. So I just thought, like, you know, Xavier
is really into this whole gene thing, and I thought, no, not
jeans, not gene. I was like, well, how are you telling
this x thirty. No, no, wrong, Jean, Travis, wrong,
gene You did just use gene Singler though you said this gene thing,
so that's us. Like, I guess you could use the gene thing like
you're studying genes. Genetics. He got I shortened it. He must have
confused the fuck out of Scott when they're talking about Jean's genes. Anyways,
when they get into the genetics, and I thought she would just be a
but you know, more of a solid character from the beginning, or at
least you know, can have this confliction of who she is. But I
don't know. I feel like I was going a lot back and forth with
you know, what she was trying to do, and that's what was kind
of taking me out of it. Yeah, especially like you know, all
of a sudden, like she's with you know, Xavier for a long time,
and then all of a sudden, she's with all these new mutants and
then they act like they're thirteen years old and like at a birthday party type
thing, and yeah, I guess it's it's really exciting for them because there's
the first time trying their new powers. They don't really know, like,
no, they don't know each other at all. But I just felt like
I was in like a preteen show all of a sudden when I think they're
going for that, but yeah, why is okay? Sorry, yeah,
finish your point, because yeah, I know that's just like what I had
difficulties with just watching not watching, But like that's the only thing. Like
I just felt like her character was very she was supposed to be conflicting,
but I felt like it was like a lot of back and forth and wasn't
as as solid as it could be. Yeah, but maybe that's a bit
to do with the writing as well too, Like I'm not too sure so,
But otherwise I still like, I don't think like Jennifer Lawrence like did
a bad job at all. Like I think she did still like a solid
job of what she was doing. It's just like I had some issues about,
like I guess where her character was or where she was like sitting at
So yeah, what were you guys gonna say at first? Uh oh Yeah.
Another thing I wanted or that you brought up that reminded me was like
her lack of like assassin skills because I was just like convinced that she was
just like a born assassin. I guess from like X one because an X
one she takes on like everyone. Oh yeah, she goes in there and
takes on everyone. And then like this one, she doesn't fight anyone,
I don't think. And then at the end though, like when Charles and
Moira were in the plane, Charles is like guiding Magneto to go fight Shaw,
and uh, he just like makes her just like guard the plane.
It's like she doesn't even fight anyone. How she's supposed to guard the plane
if anyone comes. I know, it doesn't make much sense, she says,
beasts, Like, yeah she does. That's just like misdirection though,
right, just like what's happening. But she didn't really have much of a
reason to be there, and they found a reason to use their powers.
Another quick question when uh that this is one of my favorite scenes the whole
movie, but when Charles is like kind of like training everyone, like he
makes the suit for Havoc and he's like having that one on one with Fastbender
to like move the satellite and like that was one of my favorite scenes,
just the way thing transitions. But does even train like she's hit the weights,
Remember she's he's not with Charles though, that's where Fastbader just comes in.
But I think that's kind of what they're going for at that point,
because Eatles is just ignoring her cool because even at the beginning when we talk
about that scene, I've always felt like, clearly she asked it in a
hypothetical, but she likes Charles, right, I see, that's what it
comes off. Actually, that's another point, Dad, is that that's what's
confusing, is that. Okay, so you know, Charles has made it
really clear that their brother's sister type thing like this is way more than I'd
be lucky to have you. Yeah, And she kind of like comes off
as like super kind of flirting with him, like asking him questions like oh,
like do you think like it would be beautiful of like just being blue
and all this stuff. And it's like, where is this kind of coming
from? Like I thought it was already established, Like there's no like that
type of relationship. See that. Well, do you mean in the other
movies or in this movie? I guess because in this movie I disagree because
all we see is the one moment of them as kids, and then the
next time we see them together, she's interrupting a date. He's having with
a girl. So to me, that clearly is not It's not like they
had a bunch of scenes where they were brother and sister and then all of
a sudden she's like, oh, the first scene we get introduced to adult
mystique. She feels like to me as a viewer, she's letting it known
that I like Charles and I wish she noticed me, right And I think
that's the point of two things. One with Charles having all these other kids
and Magneto, it's like he's again not paying enough attention to me, and
then you have Magneto who's just always just coming in there, sliding in her
dams literally, And I think that's the reason, part of the reason she
does agree with him. But I think it's just because she actually feels important
with Magneto, where with Charles, I think she just feels like another mute.
But I think she does like Charles. I don't think he does.
I like her, but he I think that's she's been friend zoned by him,
but she is. She She's DTF right away, you know, So
Okay, Yeah, I know that clears things up for me. Thanks.
Yeah. The other thing I was gonna bring up because this, I don't
know. Uh. Oh wait, I'll wait because I'll wait till we introduce
the whole team because I want to go back to that party scene. But
I'll wait till. Yeah, I want to touch on that. Yeah.
So at this point and then when we think about Fastbender, I'll just say
it was awesome of the bank teller scene when he's trying to get information,
just like such a cool use of his powers. Just taking I was filling
and like nothing like life changing, like he's never gonna be able to walk
again or something, but it's just like having to go through that having that
metal thing ripped out. Oh, that would be awful. Also, since
I had know subtitles, lucky enough, I actually know French, so that
was the one scene that I actually knew was felt good. And at this
point he's just hunting, he's trying to find Shaw. And then I think
it's a little later on, but I'm just tied in. We get that
great scene of him at the bar with the Nazi hunter. It's so good,
and then he they're just that moment when I don't know if Kirkland got
this, but he they're talking about his parents and he's like, oh,
my parents didn't have He asked the guys at the table, like, what
do you guys do? And they're they're clearly former Nazis and then they're like
almost playing it up, like oh, I'm a pig, and the other
guy goes, oh, I'm a tailor, and they're like laughing at Fastbender's
like laughing with him, and they ask him about like where are you from
and he's like, oh, well, my parents they didn't have names,
and he sits down. He's like, they're taken from them. And then
he like as he's cheering with them, he's like by Pig Farmers and Taylor's
and just that moment he's drinking and they're just like looking at him, waiting
and he just gets that knife. He stabs them, he gets the gun.
I think he shows the tat first, Yeah he does, right,
Yeah, he shows the numbers. Yeah, just that whole build up,
the score, everything, that scene is phenomenal. Well, it might be
my favorite scene in this movie, and maybe there's one of the one that
trumps it, But that's just another scene where again he's like, yeah he
is speaking with the moment when he's gawing talking, just his I acting stuff
like Fastbender's just like the goat in this movie. He's so good, Like
there's so many great combo performances. But that's why for me. I know,
people love Ian mckellum, but I put Fastpener just a little bit above.
I think it's just because he has more emotional scenes to do than Ian
did. But yeah, I put him in top ten combo performances all time
this movie specifically because he's just a mass so he understands the character. So
yeah, I love everything all this Nazi hunt. I could watch a whole
movie of just Fastbender hunting the Nazis down. So no, uh, unfortunately
I didn't. I didn't really understand much that scene. But doesn't he switch
to like speaking German at one point? Is it because he realized or I
think he does he pretty much knows because well, because I think what happens
is they're right, there's a picture of Sebastian Sewan a boat and they're with
them. So he's like, oh, well, these two are clearly you
know, old Nazis or they have some reason. But like, going back
to that scene, even though I didn't like, I've obviously like seen the
subtitles once before so I kind of understood a little bit what was going on,
but like the second time, they didn't really understand what they're saying.
But like visually it's so beautiful, just like the way, like the sun
glare is coming through. There's only what three people or I guess it'd be
four people including the bartender total in the whole bar, and it just it
looks so good, like you said, like the like the score in that
scene is so good too, and just like even when they're not talking,
just like the way that he like makes them all panic and like they're just
like sweating when they're drinking the beer, and then when he shows the uh
shows his tattoo and they just like get that sense of panic when he stabs
the guy in the hand with his Oh, it's just phenomenal scene and it's
a good set up for Larry, Like we'll talk about with that one guy.
He's like, oh, I was just falling orders. And then later
on when Charles says to the people shooting like the missiles, I'm like,
oh, they're just falling orders. And he just keeps constantly being told that
you know that what is the lion? He says to the end, when
he's just like, oh, I've been at the will at people falling orders
my whole life and no more and just it again. It's like Charles doesn't
get to see all the stuff he goes through, but us as the viewers,
we really understand why he makes those choices. At the end, it
doesn't feel rushed or anything like that, I guess, But like you think
Charles has like kind of tapped into his mouth. I was gonna say it
because when he when he finds his serenity or whatever, he fine, like,
but that was one moment. So it's just the one memory. That's
what I want to ask. But I think you feel like search through many
memories like a little filing desk. You're like you do. But I feel
like Charles has a he has He has a respect for people not to do
that right. And even with Mystique the last thing, she he's like,
oh, I can tell you want to go with him, and she's like,
you said you'd never leave my read my mind, and he goes,
oh, I told you a great deal of anything. So I think he
tries his best not to read people's mind out of courtesy if he doesn't have
to write, because he just tapped into that moment of his mom but he
didn't see like his entire life, right, So I think that's what it
is. I think he tries to give people their privacy. Yeah, that's
what I want to ask, because I wasn't sure if he like actually went
through because obviously it's a really touchy moment and then shows like Fastbender have the
tear and then Charles has the tear. Yeah. I wasn't sure if that
was just because the moment was so good or if he actually saw like his
whole like Holocaust experience and he saw that moment. But I think he has
an idea of that, like he's probably seen the tattoo and kind of can
put two and two together, right maybe Yeah, Yeah, he has God.
And then at this point, do you guys have anything else? Sam
Fastbender? H So that I love those. I want to start wearing turtle
next because that guy I want to wor fill it in is nice. Eat
a bug. It flew into my mouth, guessed one. I'm gonna yeah.
Oh, I have his attire. There's like he has this white polo
and these khakis and everything. There's a couple of looks of his I'm gonna
do this summer. At this point, I'm kind of going all over.
But we got introduced at some point here to more mctagrit, So, uh,
she is Cia, she's trying to track down question. This army guy
have an answer for you, and she's in her skibbies again. There we
also get introduced to Emma Frost and then the entire hell Fire Club, which
is uh ripped Tide and Azazel and yeah, that's Nightcrawlers down. Yeah.
I googled because I was like, this guy, he's clearly not Nightcrawler because
he's not. Yeah, but they didn't do any of the movies. But
Nightcrawler and Mistie or Azazel and Mystique get it on, and that's how the
Nightcrawler is born. So are these questions. Let's tart about this whole club
scene. We've got a bunch of characters talk about the very beginning. My
question is, I don't know if I just had audio issues, but it
sounded like Moira had like a lisp in the car when she's hm, hmm,
you can't maybe yeah you think because it sounded so like I'm not gonna
say you're wrong, I'm just gonna say, I didn't hear it. Okay,
I didn't hear list. I appreciate that answer. That's a very respectful
answer. Guest one, Guest one, No, it's not true, all
right, all right, all right. I thought it might have been one
of those things how like, you know, Storm had an accent, then
she just threw it off, maybe like you gotta have a lisp, and
then they just forgot about it. It was British in real life, so
maybe that had something maybe. Yeah, anyways, carry out with the scene
about the scene, Yeah, just the whole club scene. We got a
bunch of villains we met or things like that, So just spitball anywhere you
want to go with the scene and these villains and these characters. Uh,
nothing too much I want to go into other than like the introduction of the
other villains, unless you guys wanted to talk about any other. I like
Moora. I like her. I think she works in this. I think
I think she sometimes could be on the border line of being us like not
caring about that is probably the thing I care at least about this. Yeah,
but she's not annoying, so and she's kind of our way into CIA.
I think current Charles could add a few more scenes together. I think
there's actually the lead scene of them together either kissing or getting on before they
go to the Hu Misso crisis. So I actually think that I can't remember
that Sandy s Memort's on the DVD. I think probably could have used a
little bit more. But the fact that it's not it doesn't kill the movie.
No, It's just it's just she's she's good for what she has.
I'm a fan of that actress, so I feel like if they use someone
else just no name, I totally would have been that case where it's just
like, I don't even know why she's in here really except for having a
tie to the CIA, right, but uh, you know, I like
know, nothing crazy to say about her. But other than I think she
she did good with the scenes that she had with Charles. Kind of seemed
like they had a little bit of chemistry there. So yep, Nope,
just a good little guide, all right, So talk about villain, talk
about the hot hell Fire Club, what do we think about all these?
Definitely like Emma Frost compared to last time we saw her when she tried to
block some bullets. I don't know, she just Uh, like, I'm
not familiar with her in the comics, but she's supposed to have it like
she's super beautiful look or is Oh yeah, yeah, she's like a yeah,
okay, that's why I figured, like when I was watching it,
she kind of seemed like a like a wwen of the math. I purposely
didn't do it right. Uh. Yeah, she is January Jones. She's
from Madmen or my favorite shows all time. That's her real name is January
Jones. January Jones. Yeah, that's definitely a wrestler slash yeah, slash.
But yeah, she's very good looking. Her and Scott have quite the
spicy relationship and they actually have an affair, but they have an affair in
the mind so people don't find out. So it's pretty cool. Oh in
the comics. In the comics, yeah, like that's how they cheat.
Is how's her aging is supposed to work? Like does she age? Like,
Oh, that's a whole no, no, no, that's a whole
bad connunity thing the movies have because technically X Men Origins and I have a
list of all the bad connuity airs this movie x Men Origins happens after this
movie. Oh okay, I think yeah, I think so, right,
Maybe I'm wrong. No, yeah, no, you're right, because well,
either Logan doesn't have his uh well we don't know though, right because
he doesn't get the adamantium. Tell like what like two thousand when strikers still
at the end of first class, that's when they are not first class.
Sorry, day's future or is it apocalypse? Jesus Jesus Christ. Don't apocalypse
because that didn't happen yet. That didn't happen yet. They do wreck on
them. They make that happen about the origins. I feel like, didn't
that happen in the seventies? Don't they say it happens in like the seventies
that movie. Either way, it won't make any sense because like at that
point, remember at the end of that movie, Charles shows up and he's
bald and he's standing there with a helicopter. Do you remember that Carl's leading
them all out of the man cyclops and all of them there running Scott,
Yeah, and he's like, oh, Scott, come with me and you'll
be safe having origins, And so it doesn't make sense that Emma Frost is
there being younger, Why is Charles standing Why does he not have hair.
I have a list after, but I think it happens after. But either
way, that's the thing that she is in the like in the comics when
she was introduced she was that age, but with the regular X Men she
was the same age as Jean Scott, things like that, and she was
a villain. She's always been back and forth. She's always been you could
never really trust her. You don't know what Emma Frost is doing. Sometimes
she's been a moral anemy. Sometimes she's been leading the team, like at
one point Professor X left her everything. So she's a characters. So the
connuity for Emma Frost and these franchise makes absolute zero sense. And I'll add
that I like January Jones. I don't really like her in this role.
I think she's fine, but they like, are you saying they could have
casted Emma Frost better. It's weird because when I heard she was cast Emma
Frost is a very ice cold character. The way she you know, no
pun intended, but the way she actually is very cold and calculated. January
Jones is very much like that and mad Men, and I think she is
doing that in this But sometimes I just find like she does it like she's
maybe phoned it in a bit. I don't know, Like I feel like,
I don't know if it's a writing thing, like there was enough for
her to do. But I just don't think she's the greatest in this movie.
I think she's pretty bland, that's what. Also, Okay, just
kind of like arm candy for shop. Yeah, and like just her line
delivery, like it doesn't feel like it's cold. Just feel like she's just
saying, like, hi, general, it's good to see you, and
then she busts out stuff. Yeah, yeah, okay, that's a good
point. I yeah, I didn't think she was too like memorable. I
like comparing her to X Men origins. I just obviously because she's so much
more in this and you actually get to see like her full powers. Does
she have any of more powers? Telek Niss the diamonds that's that's about it.
That's about the range. Yeah. No, I overall, like I
really liked her look when she went diamond for him. I don't know,
I don't know if it's just like I like to do. Yeah, it
just looks sick and then uh, I know I'm kind of jumping. But
when fastbender gets ahold of her and like strangles her and about to like crack
her head off, so she's forced to go back to human mode. Oh
I just loved it. I like that sequence visually, but I don't like
what happens in it because I don't understand that scene well, because they're trying
to read her mind. Yeah, and then she can't, you know,
Okay, why doesn't she do like mind control on them or anything? That's
another okay, so maybe about that, Maybe not Charles because they can axe
each other. But why is she just letting Magneto just do this to her?
And she's focusing so hard on her Diamonds. That's why I tell myself
that maybe in Diamond for she can or that, or she's trying to block
Charles at the same time the trials just to catch so I hope. So
I would have liked some dialogue. I know sometimes people are like, oh,
you don't got to tell everything, but I would have liked that because
up on that point, like she blocks Charles on the boat, she's very
powerful, and then all of a sudden, Magneto just presses her up against
the bed and it's like we got her, and like Okay, I guess.
So that was my one problem that I feel like she gets taken out
really easy, and then when they put her in that jail, I don't
understand how she does not escape. Why is she not just mind controlling all
these guards and she like, yeah, it's and at one point she just
cuts that glass and she's like Okay, I don't know what's happening, so
flex yeah cool. Yeah, it's a weird character I feel. I feel
like she is a weak point in not even performance why, it's just that
they don't know what to do with her. She's the arm candy. She
gets captured and then McNeil, I like their little scene at the end.
But when we pick up Days of Future Pass, she's dead. So it's
not like it was a big setup to be like, oh man, she's
gonna be a big role in the next movie. That's what it feels like.
But when we get Day's Future Paths, she's gone. So, yeah,
you brought up some really hard hitting truth right there, because I feel
like I like her way less than what you just said, because when I
was watching those scenes, I like I was thinking about that, like especially
like when Fastbenders like choking her out. I remember thinking that, I'm like,
why didn't she just control him? But you know, I digress.
I think she's a pretty like I think she's a pretty too. She's pretty.
Yeah, she's very pretty. Quite, I just got to keep it
at that. Yeah, no negatives, no negative pretty No. I think
it's just like kind of a flatline character, just you know, another thing
to add on, right, because he's you know, you want to see
all these other mutants as well too, so and I well, at the
same time, like the her like whole telepathic and Diamond is still pretty cool
to watch as well too. But kind of what I was more like pondering
and thinking about is like, how does this X Men origins is definitely after
this movie? Yeah, I think so, one hundred percent. But then
the continuity doesn't make any sense because I'm like, I have like other issues
of why, like, oh, yeah, there's tons because they did the
director said, which I didn't know was going into and people fun after he
said that he just won this was a fresh story and he just wanted to
make a movie that wasn't tied down by all this connuity stuff. But then
it doesn't make sense when they try to pair with Days of Future past because
Matthew Vaughan, he directed kick Ass, he directed Kingsman. That's who did
this one. He did this one, he was gonna do the next one
and he didn't. And then the original director from X Men one and two
does Days of Future Passed. And that's why I think it was they're gonna
make let's just make this X Men movie and it's kind of off on their
own, but then they wanted to tie it and together. That's why Days
of Future passed. It does fix all these mistakes they do put like the
X Men origins and Apocalypse and all this stuff, so they do fix it.
So always the argument is, oh, the reason it's a messy timeline
is because this is the one that gets fixed. But if we're reviewing this
in a way of just from this movie trying to connect it makes there's so
much stuff that makes zero sense going on and you just have to accept it
go with it. So, yeah, what do you guys feel with Sebastian
Shaw, Ken Bacon, Kevin Bacon, He's the greatest, uh was it?
Hero of all? Is that these Guardians? Yeah, just like Kevin
Bacon, he there's two stones on Earth. There with the Avengers. There
is my heroes. Kevin Bacon. Oh he may be on the team.
I haven't been there quite a while. Yeah. No, I really like
Kevin Bacon. I thought, like even at the beginning when when we first
see him, like that was like an incredible performance that he did. And
I really like his power of just like taking this kinetic energy and being able
to transfer it to somewhere else. I think that's a really cool power.
And I was like over the moon about it, so over the moon,
over the moon, over the moon. But yeah, no, I think
he did a really good job of kind of being this villain, and I
was kind of confused, like, I guess he wants the whole world to
be mutants, but like at the same time, it's this kind of X
one. Yeah, actually that's a good point. Yeah, he's just a
little more violent than Magnil. I think he is just a full one.
To me, I love Kevin Bacon in this movie because I feel like he's
just hamming it up. He's he's to me. He also plays it like
a James Bond movie, but more like the older Bond films, And I
think, if you're gonna get a villain, is just I want to destroy
the world or blow something up. To me, I always prefer when you
get a good actor that well, okay, his motive are we don't really
know. It's very just comic book villain. But it's like I like watching
Ken Bacon on screen. So that's why I like this though he's nowhere near
like the top echelon, like a lokier Thanos. He's not that deep of
a character. But Ken Bacon just looks like he's having fun this movie,
and I have fun watching Kevin Bacon have fun. So I really like him
in this movie. Yeah, I agree, since it is my only second
time watching it, I actually forgot he was like the main villain. So
in that early scene in like Germany, I thought he was just like a
wild character. Yeah exactly. I thought he was just like Nazi general or
whatever over film a scene. Yeah, so, uh, just like talking
about that scene, like he was so phenomenal as like that that knots.
I don't even know what his title would be, just came he was general
something. He had a different name at that point, but yeah, yeah,
did they explain how he just lives forever? Either? Yeah? Because
the energy I mean keeps him young, he says, even though he's not
the youngest, but it's fair enough. Maybe just likes that look the young
forties. Yeah, young, yeah, young. I was gonna say,
also like I couldn't wear his attire, but he also has some sick attire
in this movie. There's multiple I like that suit he was wearing on the
ship. Yeah, yeah, like a red scarf on if I was a
villain, I would just wear it. There's a Bond villain with like an
ascot or something. And then later on that movie when he does see the
General, he is like a huge like Ferge. It's like he's the Beyonce
of the x Men VILM and you know he can actually rock that Magneto helmet.
Oh yeah, yeah. So it's like off putting when you first see
it, but then you get into it. It was kind of I guess
over trying to not know. Another continuity issue that I had with their helmet
is that I thought in the I guess the first trilogy that Magneto and Magno
created this helmet because he created Cerebral with Xavier. You're a correct guess one,
but yeah, but this thanks guests too. But in this they were
saying that the helmet was created by some Russian people. Yes, yeah,
so what yeah, that's just they did that. Oh yeah, it's the
same way Beast grades Seribro in this movie. Oh right, yeah, not
not Charles. And yeah, you know it's not just it's it's it makes
no sense. It's just it doesn't make It would have made better sense if
they just said, this is just a full on reboot, and and I
think that's what the director wanted, but I think the studio was like,
but we still want to do, like keep this in the universe. And
because if it's a full on reboot, you can't do Days of Future Pass
because he can't bring that cast back, right, So I think that's the
problem that I think they were still classic X Men Fox, so you're trying
to figure out what they wanted to do. And I think at the time
making it was like, sure, just go make a reboot, start over,
that works for us. But then I think when like when they saw
Avengers and that success of bringing the og cast back, and because I remember
the way they pitched Days of Future Pass, it was gonna be like the
new and the old cast back, like all together, it's gonna be huge,
but really it's just huge Jackman with the new cast and the other old
cast is around. They're all in the same movie. So I think that's
what happened. I think the studio just didn't know what I wanted to do.
So I think in the Rebuo way it works. But I think if
now, because it's technically a prequel, there's so many things that don't work,
and that's those are all those are all valid that you brought up.
I have no real answer for you, Okay, just I just I guess
these are statements. It's not even a question because I remember when this movie
first came out. I was on the IMDb boards all the time, and
people are trying to be like, well, maybe this cerebral breaks and Professor
X and mcneed will make another one and that's how it gets the helmet.
But it was all this like we had to try and explain it to ourselves.
The movie doesn't do that. Well, maybe they create Rebel two point
h Yeah. Oh, everyone tried the Beers place and this is just number
one, and everyone lied themselves to make them feel better about the movie.
Oh no, this can't be it. But they're not a movie though,
well no, but just to like conuity. Yeah. Yeah, but at
the end of the day, once we've it's too late now because they're ending.
But now we just know Fox just doesn't give a shit about kN Newity,
just like we're just making this movie. It's the same way. It's
like we're not gonna get to them. But there's a Caliban in Apocalypse,
but then there's also a Caliban in Logan. They're played by different actors and
it's like like fifty years apart. So yeah, they just they don't care
about Connudy. Just make your movie boom. After that, we get a
bunch of stuff. It's uh mora finance Charles like, oh, I'm the
CIA they're talking about because she saw she saw wild stuff, she saw a
Zazel, she saw riptide, she saw a bunch of powers. So the
recruiting Xavier, they have that scene where they go to the CIA and they're
like, hey, we were mutines, blah blah blah. And there's the
guy Oliver Plattman and Black who's just like everyone is just like scared of these
mutines but he's just like best magic trick I've ever seen, and he just
gives them full clearance to CIA everything like that, and that leads to this
big scene where Fastbenders found out where Shaw is CIA's found out were Shaws.
They're all going to take them out, and then bad or just I don't
know, lots of stuff ensues. Magneto tries to kill Shaw, doesn't go
well, we got Xavier and Megan, you know, meeting anything. If
you want to talk about there, go ahead. No, I'm just more
discontinuity really bringing up go on. I'm just thinking that, like, okay,
if there's supposed to be the CIA, and the CIA has never seen
mutants before, and this is the first time they're talking about mutes. Yes,
isn't this supposed to be after the trilogy? What do you mean after
that? Sorry, this is well, at a moment, this is after
Origins. But no, this is before Origin. This Isochorg, So this
would be this is supposed to be like their first contact with mutants. Yeah,
but wouldn't this already happen before in Origin? I mean this is before
Origins? Yes? Oh right, just like how logan a whiteboard, so
I know, just like kind of a flow chart logan after that procedure and
Origin still had his memory, remember oh yeah, anything to say any of
this the CIA stuff the boat, see the boat, Charles and may Needle
mean up. I like that he was trying to chase the submarine and that
was cool. He's just like staying with it and like he had no idea
what to do, and it's like trying to take a power you'll kill yourself.
Even before that, though, I liked when he brought up like the
anchor and it's just like leveled out the boat that was sick and Sebastian Shaw
was just running away with Emma Frost his arm candy. Other other than I
already mentioned, I loved his suit on the boat when Fastbender approaches him.
I also kind of forgot because it's my only second time watching it that it's
just like it all just happens so fast when Fastbender finds Shaw and then he
just fucks him up. Where was it? Uh? Emma frosted right?
Yeah? She BrownHouse kicks him off the boat. Yeah, I did not
see that coming. Yeah, what does she do? She like does tell?
Yeah, he goes because he has a knife and she just gives him
like a headache and he's like ah, and then Sebastian Shot is like,
oh, little Eric Lencher just talking down to him. It's so good.
Yeah, no, yeah, I like that. And then yeah, I
just liked how it was the first time that they like see each other and
Shaw was just like my boy, like man. I also really like the
shot of like the c I A and like them on the US Army boat
then watching all this stuff happening like a summary and he's just throwing water tornados
at every voice riptile and like you see the submarine lift and they're all watching
like what is happening? Like imagine like being in there, just like you
would be freaking out completely like what is going on? Like completely unprepared,
like oh my goodness, and you're like, we have these mutants with us
as well too, and well, my my favorite thing is so they use
Charles to track down Shaw, right, and then Emma blocks him because whatever
she throws with the diamonds and he's just like, oh, there's a mute
on the other boat and he's like, sorry, I'm gonna be no help
for you tonight, and she's like you're the only mute we have the boat
and there's a bunch of them over there. Like I just love that right
away, like, oh we got this some right away, Charles first night
and it's like, I'm no use to you. It's like I've never met
another telepathic It's like, great, we're fuck now. Thank god for magnetos.
It's so interesting. And even Shaw having a boat that turns to the
submarine. It was burry James Bond. Oh, so James Bond comes from
out of nowhere. But I wasn't thinking about it when you mentioned like the
suit and like the look. He definitely looks like a James Bond villain.
But like especially the submarine from and detached it from the boat just like starts
diving down, just like that shot later on when Emma when they're somewhere in
the Arctic, your somewhere cold and there's just ice on the sub and she
walks up and she like cuts the height off off, like yeah, cool
stuff. Yeah, And then I like, obviously you have. It's it's
a little weird that Magneedle goes like I didn't I didn't know I was the
only one, you know, like you just bumped into like Emma Frost and
this devil looking guys. I feel like it was a little strange timing,
but I get what they're going for in that scene of all I'm not alone,
You're with me. I like that. So and then at that point
it's kind of they bring Eric in the CIA and they go, oh,
well, we got to hunt down shop, but we're gonna do our way.
So they well, before we get that one, they meet Beasts and
we can talk about Beasts because I Kirkland apparently not a fan, but I
do love when they meet Beast. He was like, how perfect another mutant
and he wants started up and he's like okay, and he just outs him
in front of everybody. I really like that. But uh, yeah,
what do you feel about Nicholas Holt's Beast. I like Nicholas Holt. I'm
a fan of the actor. Shouldn't be Batman, should not be Batman?
Should I was a rumor a couple months ago that he was in the running,
and okay, I was that's yeah, he's a good actor, but
that's not him, that's not Batman, not my Batman. Yeah joker,
Yeah, I I don't know. Like I liked him just as the brainiac
like young scientist looking dude, but like him as Beast and that transition that
he goes through I just I wasn't sold, especially like he didn't even want
to be a mutant really, like and then especially since we just watched uh
Fraser Fraser's Beast and he's like so pro mutants, and like I realized that
this is young. I realize he's young, and he goes through like like
a changing moment. Would you want to be a pro podcast when you were
young? Absolutely? I don't think podcasting was a thing when we no,
But I wanted to do something like this radio show host. Yeah, and
I take a formula to do it. Yeah. Also, just like he
just really liked hanging upside down. I feel like he wanted to do that
more than anything. And he's the same thing until he gets like be's bes.
It's like, what's his power? He got, big fucking bee?
That was such a dumb power. I love the one scene when they're having
like their preteen party and like those two douchey like agents wi By He's like,
show us the feet and it's like that just shows he really is just
going around hanging places, because why why need his feet out? At the
last, Hey, guys, what can you do? Check this so upside
down? Cool? Lose it? But even then like he's a for sure
class five. Okay, so let's we're gonna jump over a little bit.
But whatever, I gotta talk about this. So, uh, and Kyle,
you can go after any football beast, but you can get on this
hate beast. Oh yeah, I don't. I don't mind beasts. I
don't I hate him as much as these two over here, but I don't.
I'm not a vougeinform or anything. But and then clearly they do this
classic mystique, lots of like love quad going on, same way as the
last movie. But like, so she has a think she likes Exavier,
Savior doesn't like her. Uh, she kind of like like she likes she
ends up liking Mike Needo, but she doesn't know that was the plan.
You know. I feel like they're just kind of like f buddies. You
know. I don't know what the deals there, but they like her and
beasts clearly like each other and have an attraction to one another. So my
jumping point is too, when he's talking with this whole of course, I
always when I saw this me the first time, when he's starting with the
Keure man, I rolled my eyes fucking hard because it's just like, we
just had the cure. Why do we need to bring this back? But
anyway, so think goodness. It's like it's minor, but his whole thing
is and it doesn't really make sense to me. So they're gonna have the
powers without looking weird, which doesn't make sense to me because her, for
both of them, her power, she can change anybody, so she doesn't
need to look weird. And then what would she she takes a shot,
would she just looked like regular Raven and then but she could still turn into
people? Because I think my understanding from this movie is that mystique when sorry,
when Raven is in mystique mode, she's strong. Yeah she's strong,
she's stronger or whatever. Yeah, but when she's in Raven, I don't
know, because she has to think harder to be in that. Well yeah,
make Neil exactly says yeah, exactly, yeah, son, like you
discovered it. Like no, I'm just trying to answer your Okay, so
you're saying that when she would take this forma she would look like Raven and
still be strong, but she would she still the ability to change, She
still have the ability to change. Okay, fair enough, but I still
go just stay as Raven. But that's fine. Yeah, what happens with
him because it's his feet. So his feet would what expand to our shrink
down our regular size, and when he needed to use them, they would
burst out and grow. I think he would just be fast. That is
why I hated his power. This is why I did not like this at
the beginning. He's just flaven, know, but he's not flash because he's
not that fast. He's just gonna run that school pretty quick. Yeah,
that's that's the reason he ran faster is because his feet were like that,
they're bigger, so that you made a sense of Ravens fine, but his
never made sense to me of like I'm gonna have would you have? Why
would bigger feet make you faster? What I feel like that is straightforward.
Yeah, just your feet is bigger, so that's more weight you have to
move. No, but it's not like being bigger. Yeah, they're like
claws. Do you see the way they expand their like and he honestly looks
like he has like another hand on both of it. So it's like you
could like run gravel quicker, you know, Like but whatever, I don't
he should just take the l like, you have big feet, get over
it? I like, and this hot chicks into you, like, why
don't even show your feet? It's just like it's just where songs all the
time. Why do these security guys do what your feet look like? Like?
Why are you showing up? No? Yeah, it's definitely to me
reminds me of X three when storms like, we don't need a cure and
here's poor rogue like, yeah we do. I at least so yeah that
I think the whole I don't I think they I don't know. I don't
think that storyline's useless because I think it's more laying on for mystique as far
as Oh, she's in the middle of deciding who she wants to be and
I don't want to take that. I don't know if they for that it
works. If they want just to get to beasts being blue, they should
have had him fucking transform in the middle of the movie and say whatever,
it was his stage of evolving. But so it's not the worst, but
it's it's it's the kind of a detair that's not my favorite in this movie,
or at least like trying to use some sort of like I guess for
him making this is before Organs anyways, like him creating his own cure,
but he needed her genes to perfect it. Remember, he's like, oh,
with your jeans, my cure will work. So whenever worked it until
he met her. But it didn't work because it's just really backfired on.
Yeah, and just fine, and that's karma. Though he looks a thousand
fine. He looks like he's a huge blue fucking became the beast. Though
he became the beast from that. Yeah, but he looks like, crap,
you, I'm not disagreeing with you. That's like he becomes the beast.
That's like the one not in comics. He just starts evolving. He
become like, oh now I'm the beast now. Or maybe it would have
been good if he was taking these injections thinking that he could try to slow
it down, and then him thinking, oh, you know she can,
I'd like that, but this was just like you went from having big feet
and now fucking yearslf over to being this monster when she's and it's good that
she's still like what happens when you don't carry the one? It's still like
it's fine. When he comes out and Jesus he didn't get a diploma.
It's fine when he comes out in his suit and she's still just like you
look you know, great or whatever. But still it was like, yeah,
but now you look like a monster. It's not great. It's not
a fan of look me either, not even just the it's not good.
It's not. It was you see like his silhouette coming out through like the
you just see the furry arms. I'm like, oh, no, do
you guys got anything to add on their romantic relationship at least or anything.
I kind of liked it. I think it worked for me. I kind
of liked it. But going back to he just I felt like he just
contradicted himself though, because he just seems like so like just nerdy, like
just really friendly and like he just wants friends or whatever. But he's such
a dick to Raven when they're talking about the cure, he's like, oh,
He's like, you don't look beautiful. He's like, and then she
trains back to Liken like now you're beautiful. Yeah, Blue, no one
will except you. He was just hitting that point home. Yeah, It's
just like those memes of Last Jedi when it's just like Kyle like it's after
rain Kylo, yeah, kill everybody, and Rai's like's in there crying and
it's like some colmentary of kind of like here's my shot. And then Kyle's
like you're nothing, you're no one. You don't this story in and she's
like, oh, you screwed it up, man, that was this.
It's like she doesn't care about your big fucking feet. She opened you,
took your shoes off, you flipped and she was like wow, she was
like a row. She's talking about oh, big guys with big feet,
Like she's completely fine. One for the kiss. Yeah, your whole life.
You'd be like, I want to make this cure, but I don't
need anymore this babe. It is like yeah, yeah, it's yeah.
I guess, well, maybe he didn't like mystique not blue. I guess
he doesn't like blue girls, you know, hypocrit he's braces against blue people.
Sorry mystique in the NAVV group trying to they can't say anything because it's
part of their stick. We're not geez trying to drum away. Yeadu's are
gonner nebula. Oh boy, I hope they carry the storyline over into the
MCU fig the Smurfs are done. I'm trying anyone else is blue out there?
Oh? Boy, tell us what other blue people? What? I
can't think of anything. Tell us other blue people out there he should target.
Uh So at this point they also go so, like I said,
there's at stuff. They meet beasts. They're like, this is cerebral.
We've talked about that. Blah blah blah. They hooked Charles up to it
and they make a deal with the CIA because the CIA that guy wants.
So they call the Man in Black that's literally what he's called, and the
credits is stupid. He says like, oh, we want the CIA to
find these mutes and go No, we're going to do it together. Because
fast Manner goes to leave and then Charles' is like, oh, you know,
like you could have left hours ago. Why haven't you? So he's
tried and Magneto again, he just has this great he's a turn up,
but he has this awesome brown leather jacket. Manet has a man crush.
Oh we should title this podcast transh reviews Crushews First Class with guests and Fastbener
love. I don't know, I'm I've lost I've lost it. That's gone.
H I tried, I tried, I couldn't. Beautiful leather jacket.
After nine after nine podcasts, I talked about my man crushes on there.
So it's a great episode. And yeah, Fastpender is high up there.
He's uh, you know, like he could convert me. Probably there's a
chance he So they say, hey, we're gonna find a way to get
these mutes. They go cerebral. They say, we want to be the
ones to bring them in. Let's talk about the intros and this entire team,
and we can loop this in with the training segment as well. Well,
actually, no way train, because training happens, training happens after.
But what do you guys think about all these characters? You got classic characters
like Banshee, Havoc, Darwin Angel, and I think that's it awful really
continue? Uh yeah, no, that's it. That's all I got.
No of them are blue. No, I guess I just like I guess
for me, like they really went back to this whole like the maybe it's
the part is this are we at the party part? No, this is
just them going when they're just like, oh, Darwin's the cat. I
like the intros at the strip club and everything. I like the interests of
them, like going and finding everybody. I just don't like their powers,
like their lame Yeah, I think, but I guess at the same time,
like they're just trying to find mutants that they don't like this is anybody,
find anybody to be on their team, and like some of these people
are like pretty young, and you're like, okay, like what, like
what thing do you like if you have used the cerebral to like take a
specific person, like are you just going because they're spy to you? Or
like he doesn't know their powers right in cerebra? No, no, no
unless you yeah oh really yeah. Yeah. I don't know why it goes
to those two once they do try to recruit adults and it doesn't go well,
oh oh, my favorite part of the whole movie still to this day
of my favorite cameo of all. Maybe there's some stan Lee's up there as
well. But just said like, hi, I'm Eric Lenschrum. I was
like, Xavier, Yeah, the one effort in the movie. Yeah,
so well you may just leave them be and it's fantastic, it's great,
it's so good. Yeah. But no, so maybe that's why they didn't
try to go adults after that. They I'm like, oh no, even
though I have something to bring a dar one when we get there. Oh
really, okay, Well, I I like them trying to find all these
mutants. I think that was good. I just don't like the mutant or
maybe I haven't read the comic books. I don't really know. I just
didn't like to mut powers in the movie itself. You don't like the powers,
don't like the powers? You know? Yeah, it's you problem.
I think it is an ish me. Yeah, I saying, goes issue.
Okay, I know, I'm just laughing. Short, continue do you
understand day one? Ish? Okay, go go ahead, guess too,
Okay, it's right now. Yeah, now it's your suir. Fucking guy
mute his mic? Which ones? Which one's he? Overall, I actually
really like the little montage of them going and recruiting people. I kind of
in your in your situation. I know it's an it's an ish me,
but I don't know. They're just kind of underwhelming. Uh, I don't
know. Maybe maybe they don't want to introduce any anyone too awesome since they
already got their awesome guys in this movie. So maybe it's why they chose
that. Did they explain why they chose those specific No? No, okay,
like like after, just do you mean in the movie that's something in
the comics that they go and recruits the first Class team is legitimly it's I'm
pretty sure it's Jean Cyclops, Beast Angel, and there might be one more
missing. But those are like the o g in the very first X Men.
I think they did just do for a real world reasons. They were
just trying to make this about Xavier and Maynial because this isn't my trivia.
But I'll bring up now this movie was originally just an origins movie like wolverem
but it was about Magneto, so it was just Magniedo. So lots of
that stuff at the beginning of him hunting the Nazis that was kept from the
movie. But the movie was supposed to be like he was. It was
his time in the World War, escape behind them people, he'd meet Charles
and that would go on. So it was originally just a mag Neo movie.
Then they kind of combine them all and then they made like an X
Men First Class like what they did, So I think that they didn't want
to make this about Jeane and Scott and Storm and all that. They wanted
this to be about them still but still have a team like aspect. But
yeah, I'm going with you guys. I don't care about any of these
kids. I don't really like them. I also think than the guy that
plays Banshie that I've seen in other stuff, I don't think they're any They're
not great actors who are playing the kids. I think the guy that plays
Lucas Till who plays Havoc is not great. The guy that cast for Darwin
I had to double check while earlier in this cast, it to me is
very strange because let's transition into the party scene. So and yeah, I
actually like the montage though of them getting them all. I think that's all
good. The music's good, that flows good. So the party scene.
So they've like recruit them all and they're just getting to know each other,
and I like that first start, so giving each other nicknames, and I
actually thought that was a good way. I thought they was there drinking and
they're just kind of I thought it was organic, the way like oh,
we're gonna call you beast, and like like what she's like, I'm Astique
and he's like, what if I want you? And she switches to him.
That's fine. Yeah, Like I think they got a good little back
and forth there, and then yeah, it just eteriates into a big party
mode. But it's very it's very high schoolish, but not like it does
it's like middle school. Yeah, and it does. It comes out of
nowhere. Pre Yeah, it comes out of nowhere. But I think they
were going for that. I have a few problems with it. I don't
mind if they did that. My one problem is I feel like Mystique and
Charles are supposed to be the same age. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
uh huh yeah, so that I don't actually have a problem with the young
X men party and whatnot. That's fine, but with her being there,
it's kind of weird. And it's also weird because I checked out for some
reason. They're all as of right now. The actors are probably younger at
that time, but as of right now, they're all my thirties. So
when they film this, what this was eighty, so they're like early twenties.
The guy plays Darwin is a whole ten years older than all of them,
So to me, it's always felt weird watching this scene, like he
feels very out of place and to me kind of creepy, even though he
was just in his like later thirties. Just the fact that he's hanging out
with like they're all kids and he's like, I guess maybe that was they
want one adult in there. But then he's still like parting with them and
he's like hit me with the chair and he's like putting his face in the
water like harder. Yeah. I liked what they're going for. I just
don't think the execution was there. I like the scene that falls a lot
of Azazel just taking out the guards. Yeah, so badass and he is
scary as hell. And even the scene when uh, when Shaw is like
he's killing all those guys and the guard is like, don't kill us.
The mutes they're just in this room over there, And I think that's really
great. But the party is it's kind of all right, just hanging yeah,
and then he's showing his feet off yeah, and you just have yeah,
and you just have Exavier like I thought better of you, you know,
And it's just it is. It's it's a weird scene. It's a
good there's good things about it. Well there's weird, yeah, touched on
like the good I like when uh it's Moira, Charles and Eric they're going
and then exceptional Yeah Charles's what does he say, sass beenders like, oh,
I don't think any of them are ready for this, they're too young.
And then he's like, I don't know, they're a bunch of exception
they'll surprise. There are a bunch of exceptional young people. And then yeah,
and then they're just causing havoc, no pluntened and fasts like except one
off his drive by just drops the line and leaves again. So yeah,
so uh yeah, I wasn't a fan of them showing off their path Like
I guess you'd get to see their powers, but like they're nothing amazing.
You could just say that for the training sequence. No, they show their
powers, and they show off their powers at the party. No, I
mean you could have saved that. You didn't have to show it there show
it, you know, I think they're showing No, he's saying them showing
it the power that you're having beef with me. No the movie, I'm
like, what are you talking about? No, because you say you were
saying I guess you're we're talking about them showing their powers, just like I
thought you were saying they didn't have to show them. No, they don't
have to realize. So yeah, no, you came off I got aggressive
there. It's like, oh, we don't have to talk about it now,
we can talk about later, you know what. That's what you came
off as guests too talking back? Uh, Kyle, any thoughts on the
scene. Oh, I kind of gave my thoughts already. I well,
not to the listeners, because when I brought the young thing, you just
like raise your eyes. I can agree, and I just like, I
no, I agree because they're just like, there's I feel like they're supposed
to be like these twenty year old you know, she's like Angels a stripper,
Like you know, what does that do anything? Well, well,
she's not a minor. She's she's not a minor, and the actor should
just be like twenty one exactly. Sure, Yeah, and we why not
some crazy stuff in her twenties. Yeah. I guess maybe if they went
more, maybe they were going for like, uh, like a dumb college
party this is what they're doing type thing. Yeah, it just did not
come off like that at all. Which is unfortunate. Yeah, I can
just camflo immature. It came off very immature, especially for a mystique like
that. Aspect of this is the issue that I have with the character is
that, like my mind is that why. That's what I was saying earlier,
is that mystique is like supposed to be. She grew up with Charles,
so I thought she'd be a little bit more mature than she actually is.
Yeah, and that's why, like when you go to this moment,
it's very like conflicting of like okay, like what type of person are you?
Like you should already like kind of already established, like it's okay that
you are like afraid of showing off your powers, but at least like have
like, you know, her and the group like all of a sudden should
have been like with that maturity, like well like maybe let's back it up
or like we're going too far or something like that. But even at that,
like of course that's not gonna happen, because you know, Xavier's supposed
to look down at her as like a younger sibling. But yet like they
still throw in this whole love triangle with that she likes Xavier at the same
time. So this is just kind of the issue I have with this character
to play Devil's advocate to that maybe she's just so tired of Charles just like
treating her wrong, so she just wants to like rebel right, it's just
want to I want to go to this preteen party. I think they could
just made her the age different a little bit, a little wider between those
two, like if Charles was actually older, a little older. Yeah,
maybe he's supposed to be. I think he is in real life, but
it just doesn't come up that way. They the way they meet, right,
because they're both little kids. Yeah, they seem like they're the same
age when they meet in the house. Yeah. Uh. And then oh,
I guess we did to talk about two. What do we think about
Angel leaving the crew and join in Sebastian Shaw? And we also we've talked
about but in the middle of this this was when Xavier and may Neil they
went to go get Emma Frost and find Shaw. We talked about that scene
with that. But I think this is all kind of really confusing. Yeah,
agree, because it doesn't really makes sense of like, oh, what
side are you choosing? It's like what like why, Like they don't even
explain like why they are bringing them into the group. Like all I know
is that because he wants mutes to be with them with him. Yeah,
they want like more mutants to know I guess no, no more mutants.
But there wasn't really explained that they everyone want to use them to fight against
other mutants. No. I feel like these people, like obviously, like
from this party scene, they don't seem like people who are wanting to fight
for someone else's cause, Like they need a reason to fight for somebody's cause,
and there's nothing of that I get. Okay, I'll try to fight
Del's avocate because I don't like the scene at all, So I'm gonna try
and like it the other way because I hate that they make Angel go with
this group. We've literally known Angel for like thirty seconds, probably ten minutes
tops, so her like turning is supposed to be a big thing. I
think it's just supposed to be that. Remember those guards come up and they're
like, hey, you know, show off your powers, and She's just
like, oh, when people ask me to show other things, this feels
less degrading, Like that feels less degrading than this the way they talk to
us, and then when that guard does like give them up and then he
gets killed. So I think it's like she's supposed to be scared in that
moment, so that's why she goes to them. She just feels that she
is on the losing side and she will die if she doesn't go with Shaw.
I think it's very weak and it's very paper thin. I think the
whole scene in general, like Shaw holds up his hand, Angel walks over,
and then Darwin's just standing there and he's like he puts his hand back
up, and it's just like we're supposed to feel emotion, and him and
Alex have this fake thing and Darwin's like I'm coming to And I like Darwin's
death. But the whole scene to me, other than that, it's it's
it's not great. I wish they just did make her turn. They just
I think they just needed Bansheet to go fight against someone that as a fighting
person, like a flying person as well, right, So I don't I
don't understand the choice. Yeah, just you mentioned, uh was Darwin.
Darwin's death. I agree, like visually it was nice, but like but
like you have no emotional attachment to this character. You've seen him for I
see him at a party trying to act like a frat boy. Yeah,
but he's twelve years old. No, he's like four, but he's acting
like he's yeah, so very lackluster. Yeah, I like, forgot even
died, forgot even care. Like he's just such a rite off. Yeah,
we can't even bury him, Charles. They're so distraught. We party
with that guy. Yeah, we named him Darwin. Fuck trying to think
after that? Yeah, she goes with him. This is I think that
war mode. Oh no, it's not the war montage yet. That's coming
up. But and then we get the X training scene, So what do
we think about this? We got just the whole I love the gray sweatsuits.
No, yeah, psch, why do they have to keep wearing grapes?
Like that? Was just I take a pair, I take a pair.
Were It's very like classic like Rocky or something like that, where they're
all just training and all matching. Like I don't understand why, but sure
because he Charles has his stuff on. Was his team man? Yeah?
Anybody just like yeah, this is definitely one of my favorite scenes the whole
movie, Just like visually the way that they transition transition the scenes and how
it starts with Fastbender and McAvoy like at the satellite and then he kind of
has that dialogue and then it goes to Charles going to with all the other
characters, and then once we loop back and it ends with back with Fastbender.
I just love the way that scene was done and just all of it,
Like the way that everyone's just getting hype that they can use their powers,
Like I know, not the biggest fan of Havoc, but like getting
getting Oh yeah, No, I didn't even really like that when he like
does the target shooting, yeah, and he has that little back and forth
with a beast. I hated their their dialogue together. I yeah, I'm
not gonna mention anymore. It's not worth my breath. But yeah, other
than that, I liked it the when Charles is running though with beasts.
It must just be a beast thing because every time this guy's all I just
have IRCs like so funny. When they're running, he rips his shoes off
and again like gonna beat me, you need to lit the beast out,
and I just got flashes of split and glass and the beast. Now it's
just like there's some fourth Wall ship Deadpool needs to be in here totally.
I I thought of that too. When he mentions the Beast, I'm like,
Macaw just start running on. All so great, but oh some of
the worst cgi when Charles is running and Beast catches up to him. But
then again I digress. Yeah, just visually. I like the way that,
like the scenes transitioned. It looked like some PowerPoint ship, but it
worked for me. I loved it. So yeah, I love all the
Banshi stuff in that when they have him out the window and they're like,
scream when you're jumping, and then he's over like the first one and he's
like ah and he falls into the bush. So and just like make Neil
the whole time. And then at the end when they do just push him
and they just kind of like that you know, fight or flight, you
know, and luckily screams. I don't like the sound of the scream.
I know what they're going for, but it's actually just annoying in my opinion,
I get it, but super annoying, super annoying. That would be
the not the worst power because Rogue still has it pretty bad. But you
know, yeah, and then so we got a lot of training things.
You got the great moment of we talked about a bit oarlier but mayneed oga
and that you know, hatreds to any moment he turns the satellite something.
They took the clip off YouTube. But when this movie originally released, when
Magnio turns it, he had this really weird laugh in the movie theater,
but it was they edited for the DVD, the stream, everything like that,
and there used to be on YouTube the real version. It sound like
the joke or he's like, but they take it out and he just is
like laughing a little bit, but it's it's it's I always found that weird
that he went to the theaters and it had this laugh. But then after
that to home release, like we got to edit the satellite. That's funny
though, because I remember, like when he does that laugh, obviously it's
not full like they edited it, but uh, it just seemed so like
like the way he's smiling too, like it looks like the jo called it
the joker laugh. Yeah. And then after that, like I said,
we told they got that warm on Tash, you're just setting up. We
got one last great scene of them playing Chess. I love I loved it.
They used the scene memorial, right, what or is that another scene?
No, that's that's earlier that I've never playing chess. Then yeah,
yeah, I just don't know. The scene when they right before battle and
they're kind of talking about like, oh, killing Shaw won't bring you peace.
It's from the trailer, but just when Mags like peace was never an
option, that just perfectly sums up who Eric Lencher is. So and then
after this we just get the whole climactic battle, the end. You got
the sub community, missile crisis, everything, So just talk about the entire
ending because I don't need to blow by blow it just everything from when they
when Magnild's lifting that sub to when him and Charles are fighting over rockets anything
you want to show up quickly Before we got on this, I forgot to
mention this when Charles and I keep Mara not oh yeah, she's there peace
they go to Russia to try and find Shaw. That whole scene when they
get to that checkpoint and Charles is like the mind oh yeah, oh man,
I love that scene too. I forget, don't move. I forgot
to mention, and then they like he's just fucking with the guy's mind so
you can see him. The dogs are barking and yeah, sorry, no,
no, no, no, we're gonna first class again. So yeah,
so, uh, I guess I'll just go with the Cuban missile crisis.
How do they even how do they even start there? Oh? This
is when Beast reveals himself as Beasts and they get into their ship. Made
the suits which actually like this. I like thee yeah, yeah, because
that's that's like old school X Men. I don't really like Havoc's costume as
well too. He looks like like, yeah, totally, he doesn't need
this, but we're gonna put it on him. Yeah, he doesn't look
cool. I like these suits better than the X Man suits because those weather
black great though, right it's time eleven. Yeah, Suit, Product of
his Time that was eight years ago, said to me when we're watching the
movie, you know when we saw it together, remember, yeah, Product,
it's fine, you're living in the time. Yeah, but yeah,
it starts at the big old sub list great moment. Yeah. I I
like the little showdown too, with like the American soldiers and the Russian soldiers
and then you just got like the one cargo ship going through. Obviously I
didn't have subtels of this part, so I didn't really know what the Russians
were thinking was going on with that that ship. Oh, they were telling
the ship to stop right. No, they were saying, like what were
because at one point they're speaking English to the Americans and the Americans are like,
oh, no, they're just trying to fuck with us, so don't
oh no, no, no, okay, So they got orders to tell
them to turn the ship around, the cargo cargo ship around because of whatever
reason. Yeah, and then so they're like, okay, Like so they're
trying to call the ship to turn it around, but the ship won't turn
around. And because you find them because as a little people are done.
Whatever his name is, can I say that right? Say what you say?
Night? Carler's father a Zazel Azel destroyed them. I don't even know
what I said, but I'll go with THEE and he and I appreciate that
he's wearing the hat. Yeah that's little Sailor's hat. Yeah, Like,
I guess it's kind of a stressful moment. You don't know if the ship's
going to go across the line, but uh, due to lack of subtitles.
I wasn't really invested in this whole scene other than visually. I thought
it looked great. And then when the Russians or sorry, when Charles takes
over that one guy's mind shoots the missile take it out. I just I
love that. That looks great, and they're all looking at him, yeah,
clearly about to arrest them. Yeah. No, And then they basically
tell him like, oh, he's a hero for doing that. Oh do
they Yeah? And he's like, what did I do? I don't,
I don't know, okay, and he's like super confused. Yeah, because
I think the Americans mentioned it's like, oh, the one guy lost his
mind, So I was like, they must have been really mad with them.
I don't speak Russian much, so that fair enough. I thought the
like I guess this like kind of ending was all right, well really like
it was good, but like, I don't know, I feel like just
the X Men first class you know, characters are just really ship I agree,
okay, so totally like it's just like everyone's just so ope. Actually,
just like McAvoy, I think they're not. Yeah, I think the
first Class, like the rest of them, are just like awful. And
it's even like it's like Angel running around, running around like those those close
up shots are so funny. Yeah, I know that's gonna say, like
what is Bans supposed to do? Like, yeah, you're you're using your
voice to help you fly, so he used so at one point, remember
to help Yeah yeah, so, but like, how is he supposed to
fight them back? I think that while he's flying, well, no,
you can't, you can't. He's just he's just getting chased by Angel and
he's holding on. And then at one point, like she shoots and hits
havocs like chest thing. So it's like, well, what the fuck is
the point? And then he's like, oh, I can't use my powers
anymore. It's I'm completely useless to use powers. Before he uses powers and
Misteque she's sitting on the ship like oh no, yeah someone else. Yeah,
I guess I just hoping someone that Shaw is not gonna be on the
beach as well. No, I guess I agree that first class stuff's now
I won't say sucks, it's just fine. The stuff that I love is
okay, Okay. Magneta lifts this up. Great moment. Magneto and Shaw's
face down. Great moment, the way they trick him, like he uses
the cables to take off the helmet, Charles gets them. And then what
I was saying that Magneto pub seems my favorite. This is my favorite scene
that like, Shaw gives this whole monologue about how munes are the future and
everything like that, and then once he gets a helmet off, he freezes
him and me, you know, Magneto goes, you know what, I
actually agree with everything you said. You're completely right. And then when he
turns around, he's just like, unfortunately you killed my mother. And then
when he has that coin, he's just like, I'm gonna cant out to
three and the coin that's gonna move and not only one great callback to like
what happened to the beginning of the movie, just that moment, the cinematography
of the coin going into Shaw's head and then they're falling Exavier's head and just
Exavier screaming while Shaw's dead, silent, so good and it's just soft up.
What happens next is Magneil walks out of the sub and he literally just
has like metal wrapped round Shaw and he just has Shaw floating there like a
Jesus and it's just like anything weird it was, but it's scary, right,
And then there's just this moment he's just monologuing and he's just talking about
how he can hear the guns moving that so your Harveston ran on the first
class peel. But I guess that stuff's just so good I forget about because
the Charles Magneil Shaw stuff is a knockout part, some of the best X
Men stuff ever. And then, to be honest, the whole ext like
Charles and make Needle, the entire movie is the best part. Yeah,
when those two are together or either one like by themselves. Well, not
so much Charles but more Magnetos fire like, that's the most interesting part of
this entire Everything else is just kind of like blant. So I won't go
as far as that. I won't say bland. I'll definitely say Eric and
Exavier is the best part because I like some of the Shaw stuff. I
find him entertaining, and I like mystiques. But who's Shaw with what?
At one point Angel, he just trays up him a real quick for Angel,
but I like him. Yeah, she's like wearing her clothes. It's
like a Orlando Han situation, Like this is weird, but I like just
seeing him be Shaw and like this charismatic villain. So I agree with you
that the other stuff is lower. I won't go bland, but that stuff's
great. And then those all the rockets are coming down and he just turns
them around and that great fight him and Charles have that at one point he
just like punches Charles. When he does that, he makes rockets explode.
Like you just feel like it's his Darth Vader moment. He just turned full
bad guy and he's just popping off. So I love all that. Yeah,
quick question, is the helmet that he wear is that metal? I
don't think so, because he couldn't take it off, right, so something
that's why I was only white. He didn't just take it off because it
seems pretty metallic to me. Maybe it's some aluminum or something like that.
I'll give it to him. It doesn't work like that, I'll give it
to him. What does it not work like that? Because he can still
use his powers to bend all that stuff. Well, maybe it's a special
type of illumin the Russians made. I don't know, three D printer they
all have. Yeah, they all got the plumbas they know what they're doing.
Yeah, the first class stuff I agree kind of with Cat, like
I wouldn't go too far. There's just like completely bland because I don't know,
like for me, I just feel like they just cancel each other out,
like with the bad first class people like Angel fighting band she like it's
it's so doesn't like push the plot for you know whatsoever. No, and
they just they cancel each other out. And he also got b stand as
Azel fighting. I think I may have misspoke on my No, that's it.
That's it, like that those parts are very this Travis is abusing the
no oh no no, yeah no. My saying is like those characters is
like pretty bland, but everything else that happens is very good. No.
Yeah, that's that's why I'm I'm not saying the movie is bland. Yeah
No, I didn't turned out. No, I didn't think you're saying the
movie is blad. I just don't think the stuff that I like Lisa still
bland. I could say stuff like Angel and Arica bland, but I still
think like I like mystique and I like, yeah stuff going on. Yeah
yeah, but wait what you said though, like when I thought of that
scene, I kind of just pictured like Angel flying around benshe kind of chasing
her and stuff. I totally like took away though from like the epics scene,
like when Magnio actually faces down with Shaw. Like you said, like
with the coin scene, Ruth too, it's like a mirrored Yeah, so
cool. I like how like a first like Shaw just like fucks up Magneto
and then it like makes a little hole and then Charles like I can kind
of like I can kind of like get through now. So yeah, so
that whole scene and I can't get enough that coin scene. Now. You
just like he's been holding out of that coin since he was a boy,
right, yeah, just waiting for that moment, and it's just knowing one
day I'm gonna kill this name. I'm gonna count to three and bubble it's
so good. Okay, Wait, so Charles can still get through the helmet
then, Oh, if he's saying that I can kind of get in through
or he that was the room or I remember, yeah, that's get into
Magnito's head. Yeah, but at one point, you know this, he
can't even get to Magneil's head when they go in that like mirror orom.
Yeah, but when it's cracks open. But he's saying that he can get
to Magneto, so yeah, because he can see what's happening. So that's
why he stops. Magnial gets that helmet off, he stops hopingil and and
uh, when Magneto is wearing the helmet, he's basically like taking over Shaw.
So he's seen Shaw die through Shaw's eyes. That's why that's right,
He's probably going through that. Yeah, it's a pretty intense moment. Oh,
that was really good. I really liked all of that, And even
with like the whole missiles going kind of back and forth, and I like
how that like whenever he would lose focus, they would kind of drop and
then he would like focus on them again. Then they pick up. So
so good, I think. And then Moors popping off shoot at him.
He's deflecting these bullets and then boom one goes in the xavior and then he
really haves to deflect them. Couldn't you just stop them? He was showing
off, you know, but you're right, Yeah, I didn't go off
for Charles. But then Charles's on the ground. They talk about their differences
and how we're the same and then so we want very much different things.
And then he asked, who's gonna come with me mystikos. We kind of
talked about that, and then there's two things I want to bring up here,
go ahead quickly, and he's calling over a stike. I found it
so funny because originally she just goes over to Charles, but like he's like
still holding his arm up, and then it goes back to to a passbender
and he's like still has his arm up, like his arm's gonna be tired.
He knew, yeah, sorry, there's two things. One for some
reason, and the very first time I saw this, I like teared up
when he was talking about he couldn't fee legs because that moment was also good.
I forgot Charles like got paralyzed eventually, Well because of origins, right,
well that too, Well that's probably honestly, it's probably because I thought
this is and I'll get to the other reason why I made him think that,
But I had just forgotten that moment, and I think, yeah,
it could be a little cheesy, but I think mcavoyd does a good job
when he start like I can't fill my legs and the score and they's zoom
out of the beach. I think it's great. I remember hearing a little
too much for me. I would say Pete some like four times or something
fair enough. You know, I might be exaggerating, but Pete's sorry what
he's like, I can't feel my licks. He also is like very groovy,
Like multiple times, I'm very groovy. I can't feel my nicks.
It's a little bland. But then so uh. The thing that it's fine
now because we got Days of Future passed and spoilers. I love that movie.
When we're gonna review that movie, I'm very excited to do that.
So that's great. But at the time, and I still think that this
hurts the movie a little bit. I don't know if they need to get
broken up in one movie. To be honest, I think they could have
done one more than together because for them too, and especially if for a
thing about this in the X Men way of this being a prequel, they
talk about being best friends. I buy that they have an appreciation for each
other in a friendship, but I don't buy that they're like longtime full and
best friends. With this which is this movie maybe takes place what three,
I'll say I'll give them the benefit down and say it's a month okay,
like and I can see him respect, but the way they talk about it,
so I remember even when I was watching, that's why I didn't think
he was paralyzing, like, oh, this can't happen already. It's like,
oh, he's already paralyzed and they're already broken up. I thought it
happened a lot, way too quick. But now that we got days of
future pass, it is fine. But I still think there is a almost
like another you could have done this and then one more movie of kind of
like having Magneto hint towards the dark side but not do the full jump.
It's fine, it still works. I don't think it's a big com but
I still think that sometimes that it does just move all a little fast.
And if they're best friends, it's like, well, I guess we're your
best friends. But Mistique's more of your fucking friend than she he was,
you know, like you grew up with her, knew this guy for a
month that you guys, Okay, you played chess together and you had really
similar ideals, but other than that, like she's your best friend, not
him, but whatever. No, that's a that's a lot of good points
because like thinking about this or sorry, thinking of this of just a standalone
like I guess they kind of need I don't. I don't. I don't
even know if they do need that, like where they break off at the
end though, because I don't know because I was I was trying to well,
Jesus like choking on my own words over here, Thanks Travis. I
feel like if you take this as a stand alone, like you kind of
need Fastbendard and mc mcvoyd to come together and then kind of break off at
the end and not just be like they're sort of breaking off and and then
just like let that happen in the next movie. And then going back to
the point of McAvoy loses, I thought it was in the next movie when
he becomes paralyzed, so I was actually kind of surprised, like when he
got shot, I didn't think it was paralyzed at first, and I've seen
this movie before, but I don't know, as I I wasn't thinking too
much of it though until you just mentioned it. Of it just seems like
a lot, especially right in there, and then especially when you throw in
like the Emma Frost scene at the end when Magneto goes to recruiter and he's
just like full on bad guy. He's what you cape? What do you
think about that suit? The Magneto suit? Yeah, amazing, I really
like guess it was my turn. I guess it was sick. The helmet
color, give me that purple? That was you thought it was bland?
Nah, I was dope as he looked so sick. Anything about that suit?
Uh, I got a cool question before I give you my opinion.
Was that a magnet on his head? Because it looked like he had something
on the front. No, he does have so yeah, it is very
comic book classic Magneto. I don't have the helmet here, but he has
like a little antennae. Yeah, and I liked it. I think the
suit the only reason a little awkward because it just pops up out of nowhere.
I would have liked to see in the suit more in action because it
looked a little too fabric key for my taste. But I love the color
and I actually love the helmet and I hate that in Days of Future Pass
of course with Brian Singer back, like now, we're not going to go
that comic Bookie, so they tear it down because some people don't like this
suit when it peers up, and we never got to see it in full
form again. So but I really like it. I was excited we never
saw it, and I like the scene of him breaking her out. It's
that was a great scene. I do like that. Yeah, the suit,
Like I don't feel like super strong for or against it, just because
we didn't really got to see it in action, Like it definitely seems they
probably just did that for like shuts out the comics. Yeah, like you
said, like it's very comic Bookie. So for me in this movie,
other than like the yellow suits, it didn't feel very comic Bookie. Kind
of just felt like a not so much like an original X Men where they
go like full matrix. So all of a sudden he has his red purple
suit and a fucking helmet with a antlers and you're like, what's going on?
Yeah, looking at the find it, I would have I would have
liked to see like that cape like kind of flying around how like the Megio
there's his little little flotations. So I'm not really four against it, but
I really like the color. I'm not gonna lie, I really loved it.
Are you trying to what suit? Are you trying to find the one
that we're talking about? Yeah, the red one? Was it red because
you said purple? Red? Purple? I don't know how you're still low
for all I put in was first class make Neil suit and stuff. I
found it right away Cayles on Instagram. Right, he forgot about the cat
that's right there. I can't turn anymore because I'm recording, Okay, Yeah,
yeah, I was just taking my time looking at it. Yeah,
I was getting more into the detail of it all. But yeah, I
think it's uh because there's other ones. Oh. I also love when they
were flying in the crazy Jet, I forget the X Men jet, the
crazy jet? Oh my god, what's it? What? What do you
call this? Hank? I called this the wacky crazy jet as he's saying
it upside anyway? What and this was? This happened so long ago?
Why does this happen? You bring this up now? No, this is
part of it. When he's moving up the submarine like we'rea go ahead,
go ahead, No, it's fine. This is the only time we can
talk about so I am like lifting up the submarine was so sick. We
already talked about I didn't talk about it, didn't I didn't get to put
my little two cents on the montage, And you guys just moved on for
me. So I'm pritting it now. I appreciate you. Just one,
just like to talk about my montage. Talk about the ending, Talk about
the ending. The ending, Charles is paralyzed. He kisses more and makes
her forget. You got fast better in the suit. You know it was
sick faster. No, No, I really liked kind of the ending and
how it ended and how I ended. I'm over it. You guys just
screamed me over right. Yeah, guess one has left the game. I
got nothing to say. They laughed about this movie. Yeah. I didn't
realize that the kiss is what made her loser. Memory. I thought that
just was un like touched upon. I don't. I don't think it was
the kiss. I think it was like I don't, I don't in the
literal sense. That's what you said. I said that. I don't think
I said literally, the kiss is what made her loser. Mind you play
it back, play it back it back, guests, don't We're don't clap
back ball. The guests don't have that. You won't learn we learn it.
Do do have anything else in this movie? I don't think. So
what's your trivia? I got some trivia? Do we rate after trivia?
Yeah? Yeah? It has wear a mess two more episodes prepare for it.
I have a list of trivia. It's not as much trivia honestly this
and maybe it's just because it's uh. They were like, we're better at
studios and they are just like, okay, let me rephrase the holy fuck.
Maybe studios were better. Yeah, maybe studios were better, and they
were just like, we kind of have an idea of what we want and
who we want to cast. So there's not as many fun as Oh,
it's almost this, almost this. So I have less trivia, but I
also have every instant where they win against the original trilogy as far as like
the so here's the trivia. First, to prepare for his role as Charles
Xavier, Jens back Boys shaved his head. He certain learned that the filmmaker's
why Charles have a full had hair in the prequel. Throughout the first month
he had to wear hair extensions. On that note, I did like the
shout out when with Moiro as a very end Yeah, but like you're gonna
have students running run around and she's like, oh, before you know,
I'll be bald or something like that. Right, Yeah, I liked it
and then didn't. When they're in the cerebral the first time, didn't Beast
ask him to shave his head. It'd work better if you shave your head.
Don't touch my hair yet, yeah, okay, hair jokes. The
next question. A telepathic okay, Kanye battle between Professor X and Amma Frost
was going to be in the film upon but upon the release of Inception,
the concept was scrapped. This was used again X Men Apocalypse between Professor X
and Apocalypse. So I'd heard this a lot. So I don't know if
you remember Apocalypse, but Xavier and him had that scene with my find that
was supposed to be him and Amma Frost. Apparently it was a wild sequence
to them, like running through mirrors and stuff like that. But because of
Inception, it's apparently very much like that Joseph Gordon Levitt fight where he's like
with that guy in there on the roof and they're spinning and stuff like that.
So I think they're like, we don't want to seem like we ripped
it off. So yeah, that would have made her character a lot better
though, Yeah, at least a better sent off than just yeah, bed
kill, yeah, bed kill. Yeah. What is that like? Well,
like put up against the bed. They broke her diamond, she was
done? Name her spirit? Did Brian Cranston turned down the role of Sebastian
Shaw to be in Drive? Really, I feel like that's a really different
Shaw. Yeah, I don't think we would have gotten that comedia vibe.
You never know, though, he was a malcolman in the mill for many
years. Remember it's true he was a comedic actor before he went to Breaking
Bad. So yeah, yeah, true. That just a fun fact.
Another one, Jeffer Lawrence. Nicholas Holt began dating on the set of this
film. Nicholas Holt is that Beast? Yeah, as did Michael Fastbender and
Zoe Kravitz. Zoe Kravitz is which one is? Sorry, Angel, Angel,
I'm not going to comment on that. And then finally, Taylor Lautner
was considered to play Hay McCoy aka Beast, but dropped out due to scheduling
conflicts. Nicholas Holt was later cast so Nicholas Holt. Maybe not the Grays
Beast or that Beasts and Grays, but I think it has been a lot
worse if it was. Uh Te Lautner from I really liked him in Twilight
though. I thought he did a good job the only thing he's ever been
in. No, he's been other things. How come you really let you're
lying? Right? No, I thought he did it. I thought he
was like one of the best parts of those movies. What's your favorite toilet
movie clips? I've never seen them. Sh'S watching them right now. That's
how I know. I have no idea. Just totally fu Yeah, I
knew you were a liar. I've only seen the very last one. That's
I saw the first one and then the last one because of girls. Oh
the last one was like Breaking Dawn part two. I have no idea for
two they have. They split the last book in the two parts of course.
Yeah, okay, just like Avengers and they did the same thing.
Fuck, dude, Fuck, that's gonna be awful. Trying to find my
By the time of this recording recording, they've seen endgame stall some time.
I'm just trying to spoiler. Oh what Okay, Australian friend told me there
was another thing that I wanted to say as well too about this movie,
just trying to find Oh, so when they're in the bar, actually you
know what cause we still got to record the nah. So there was one
part where what what was her name? The CIA hit the girl Moira Mora
Mora, Moira Moria. I don't know if I'm Laura Moira Moira m o
I r a correct, sure, yeah. Anyways, So when she's trying
to call this yeah, anyways, So when she's trying to call the CIA
saying, hey, this general like he's up to these plans, like he
was just here and doing all these things right here. Yeah, and he's
there there whole time. Like I thought that was kind of funny because she's
like losing she feels like you really feel like she's losing her mind of like
wait, no, I just saw him, like that's impossible for him to
be there type of things. So I thought that was pretty cool of just
like showing like kind of off the mutant powers like to the humans for the
first time, of like them not really knowing what's going on even though like
the whole like interaction when the mutants first meet the CI agents like it's kind
of awkward and they're like, who are you? And they're like, oh,
you do this, he's a spy. I've seen this joke before,
trick or trick whatever. Yeah. So, and did you notice who the
older guy was there in that room? No? No, Colonel Striker is
William Striker's dad. I didn't know that. I just forgot that at Professor
X because oh, you're thinking about your son William right now. So who
does come up in Days of Fugature pass? So the Strikers are always around?
Yeah, and Apocalypse So the Strikers are I understand people's complaints. And
he soon just entered the Rex one. No that's the only one. But
I feel like people are just always like why is Striker and alcoholic? Like
always in these And yeah, I don't think you're gonna see Striker for a
while in the MCU because he's been in so many of these fucking movies.
Surprised he wasn't logan, give me the next thing? Us WHOA, So
here we go. I got a list of all the mistakes of con Neudy
every other films like God I Eat Water in X two Hank McCoy appears in
human form before his mut don't just taunt me with your water before his mutation
is manifest by the third film, whereas in First Class he goes to the
transformation for the first time as a young man. I'm half listening, half
listening. Yeah, remember next two they show Hank McCoy in the TV screen.
Yes, he's a human, but he clearly in the sixties turned into
a beast. So they of course write that off fans being like, well,
in Days of Future Past, he finds a way to suppress that,
so that's what he must have been doing. But it doesn't make much sense.
How come they went through the effort of explaining that, but not like
the other new issues. No, this is this is this is I'MDB explanations.
This is the movie fans. Yeah, yeah, this is them trying
to figure out where this is them saying all the mistakes. And X two
there's an instant where Sebastian stan is speaking with McCoy on television. However,
he's only referred to or Sebastian Shaw. Sorry, he's only referred to doctor
Shot and maybe a different character. So okay, so playing with it,
So here's the goe. In the beginning of the Last Stand, during a
flashback and at the end of Origins, Xavier has full use of his legs
in nineteen eighties, whereas First Class he loses them in nineteen sixty two.
Blah blah blah. Yeah, so we talked about that already. In the
opening of Last Stand, Eric and Xavier are working together recruit Gene in the
eighties. In this film they go their separate rays. Much earlier in life.
They may have briefly reconciled to go before going their separate ways once again,
so same thing. X three. They go to recruit jeens, but
they're clearly broken up. So Jeans Jeans Jeens. We talked about this about
them creating Cerebro, but that was really beast and X Men. Professor X
tells Logan that he met Eric Lenscher when he was seventeen years old, which
would have been in nineteen forty nine. Gave the fact that Xavier was born
in nineteen thirty two. According to First Class, they met in nineteen sixty
two. However, they could briefly encounter each other when Eric went to New
York for some of these However, you know, it's quite possible. It's
like it's like when you and met each other. Yeah, yeah, you
were start working together. That's exactly it, the same thing. This was
a point Kyle Brob with the helmet professor said that they made together. But
what's the deal you know with these helmets. Uh, Let's see in Origins,
Emma Frost cover her boy with small diamonds, whereas in first Class her
body becomes one large diamond. Yeah, that's difference, right if you think
about that, when she was like that deflect the balls, just the diamonds
are a lot different. It's a bunch of diamonds all over body because she's
just a huge diamond. In the process of forgetting that movie, yeah,
and then I did tell you this when we did X three, but Morier
Tigret is inn X three as that doctor who's talking exavior during the class.
She's like, this is a comb with toast patient and he blah blah.
She's like a young Scottish woman but this is her again, So which movie
was sorry X three? Yeah kind of forgot that scene. Yeah, so
yeah, lots of stuff. Wow, that was wasn't your best trivia,
but it wasn't worst. I told you there wasn't much great trivia, and
I all I did, I did preference that okay, hey, I did
preference. That wasn't the great trivia. And I did say this wasn't trivia,
this was just mistakes. So it's different. This is the first time
that was mistakes. You can say this mistakes, uh segmentry mistakes segments and
big spoiler, big, big spoiler. I don't have great trivia for the
Wolverine either, man, So I told you. As films get honestly,
we did this with the Marbo Retchet two. As films get newer, there's
less trivia because either, like I said, the studio system is better or
less. People have just spoken up and be like, oh I was almost
cast as that role. Like if it's only a few years, people aren't
gonna be like I was almost young Magneto because oh, so you didn't get
the role. You suck. Here's a piece of trivia for you that is
not on this list. You know this because you were on the Spiderman retrospective.
But Michael Fassbender was in the middle of picking this or Amazing Spiermen to
do, and he was gonna play doctor uh Ker Connors. I'm so glad
you did this, oh so glad he did this, especially because that is
not the greatest movie. I'm gonna give this a nine out of ten.
I'm giving it the same greatest X two because I think for both reasons,
I love them both. There's things I like better. We're gonna do a
rankings episode, so I won't say which one I like more, so stay
tuned for that. But a nine out of ten. Some great set pieces,
some great scores, phenomenal, maybe the best score you got, great
cinematography. I love the setting, I love the attires, I love I
love the look of this movie. You though, I don't like the look
of certain characters and McVoy and more importantly Fastbenner just kill it. So a
nine out of ten for me, I'm I'm gonna go ahead now, I'm
give is guest number one. Yeah, I am guessed one. I'm gonna
give it an eight and a half out of ten. I think I really
enjoyed it, you know, as much as I was kind of bashing some
of the characters, overall, I thought this was a really good movie.
And kind of It's kind of funny because after just watching like X Men,
origins and like X three and like nice refresher. It's been like a nice
refresher remind yourself, like oh yeah, like this is like what a movie.
Like, Yeah, there's some plots, but like this feels a lot
better than what we've seen like prior years or like only like a year or
two beforehand. So yeah, it ain and a half for me. I
thought like a lot of the action was really good. I really like the
character development, and like Ian McAvoy and uh, Travis's crush here, Who
the fuck is Ian McAvoy? What? Wow? Man, I'm just getting
all mixed up. Charles Xavier and Magneto, just do I apologize. I
feel like we're you know, I feel like we had some fun this podcast.
But as far as just us speaking as regular humans, we're not on
an a game. No, we're filming this night before endgame, and I'm
gonna put it at that, we're just so hyped. Yeah, just getting
them all mixed up. And James McKellen starring with Michael Stewart and Patrick Fast
I like burst there. I tried to just let him go Iles doing like
you know those games in old movie theaters when you make up two faces like,
guess it's celebrity. He's just doing names and he's like, guess that's
celebrity. It's like Ian's Macavoy. My goodness, I'm still sorry, guys.
Anyway, So Magneto and Professor X, all of their scenes together is
just so powerful to watch and I quite enjoy it, like it's it's just
amazing and just what they do with their characters. You wish Foggy would give
them a pass with Ryan Reynolds too, and just like, come on,
come on over, won't forget everything that happened before. No one else is
coming, but you three, come on you if you want to come back
to you can't you can please? Please, you can't. Please. Yeah.
No, I really enjoyed it, so yeah, that's'll give it.
I'm going to give it a thank you. Guest one, that was excellent,
excellently spoken except for that, and that was great though. Oh I
was an underbatt. Oh that that's a twenty nineteen Bluebirns right there, don't
worry, uh, Like, guest one, I'm also getting this an eight
point five. How come? Because when you said that you were shaking your
head. I thought you're gonna go lower. What I was actually doing.
I was rubbing my nose on this, on this, on this fucking kid,
not even kidding other people use that microphone. I'm so sorry. I'm
gonna be truthful. We didn't promise you that this is gonna be a strange
trio, and it's definitely lived up to that. Absolutely. It only took
til first class to get to our full potential. Now this is the peak.
Yeah, hopefully it's the peak. Hopefully it doesn't get a little any
crazier but then a yeah, we are Wolverine coming up. Yeah, I'm
gonna give it eight point five. I think that's what I gave X one,
and I'm gonna stand by it. I don't know if you remember your
ratings, so I don't. You don't know if I remember, no,
because every time you say that, you're like, I think I gave this.
I was thinking long and hard about what I gave an eight point five
because I've given it one a point five other than this one. I think
it was X one. Okay, but you can hold me to that if
you want. I won't. I'll just wait till we do the rankings episode
and you can show me where you put it, all right, Uh,
yeah, no, other than the irks that I threw out there, the
Jennifer La Jennifer Jennifer Lawrence. Other than the Jennifer Lawrence effect that I had
on mystique and how she Knna took away the mistique of that character. For
me, that was that was a stretch. I see what you did there?
What are you looking at? He's like, oh, I can't go
to Australia podcast anymore. And the b I am not a big fan of
him. I've said my multiple points on him, but overall, especially like
the chemistry between McAvoy and Fastbender, it just it was so powerful and the
great shots that we had from the intro scenes to I guess it would be
kind of an interesting when Fastbender's Nazi hunting goes to Argentina. That like that
bar scene just phenomenal. Uh basically any scene that Fastbender and McAvoy were on
there together. I just carried this movie so strong. We didn't even talk
about the sex scene question mark shit. We got it quickly with mystique that
because remember they sleep together, did they really sleep together? Though A just
implied when? But does matter of fits imply that something has happened to remember
when he walks into his room and Mystiques there a race naked and she's naked,
and then they get it on well because they kiss and he gets in
the bed with her, so I'm gonna assume they did. I didn't see
the I don't what they kiss. No, they kiss full on and one
thing I do love the Easter egg. She's like, oh, how about
this and she turns into another woman that's Rebecca Main who played the original Mystique.
That's cool. But then when he's like, oh, I want the
real rave and that's where the perfection gift comes from, and he's a perfection.
Yeah. No, they kiss and I'm pretty sure they get on.
So that's because and they allude to that in Days of Future Pass. That's
good. Uh Conuti, thank you Travis of Travis and the Guests Band.
I don't know what else to say. Okay, now I just want to
shut that out. I thought that was a cool wrinkle because she's good.
Remember after she gets turned down by a hank to that ads. We'll talk
about that. We'll talk about that in Day a Day's Future Pass because there's
still Bram some couple of stuff in that, like she walks in like with
the rope, like naked, and like professor, it won't look at her.
Well, what are you doing? Excly be my natural force exactly like
I just acted out. Oh yeah, that's it. Not the best reaction.
Okay, you know in your role, I believe I gave it an
eight point five. I know you're just saying some stuff. So and to
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in the next episode, Kyle have an exhilarating day. Boom, he did
it. That was very smooth. That was the in your notes. No,
it wasn't. I just came up with it. That's why when you're
like, what are you looking at? That was me like thinking, I
think, I'm like I have use that one because of my pun it was
so exhilarating. I want to decide what way I want to you want to
what I want to be able to lounge? Okay because before my mic was
like this, So I'm like sitting and all looking like Randall from Recess.
Have you seen that show? Of course? Yeah? Fuck Recess? What
No? I was never a fan. Come. I just didn't like many
of characters. The humor didn't hit with me. It was always in whatever
that chunk of those four shows were. It was the one I was like,
I gotta get through this one. You gotta get through it. Yeah,
simpler times. I can't remember those four shows, but I remember one
was Proud Fan, man, I really proud family. I wasn't a fan.
Oh I did my Proud Family. Yeah, that's why people off my
TV screen. I wanna go back to the white kids at Recess. He
plays basketball, understand their problems. He's like the whitest black guy. He
plays basketball. Yeah, all sports. He's great at all sports.