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The countdown is on to fight time. This is Big Fight Weekend. Now

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here is your host DJ Leaves.
We are ready to go. It is

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Canelo Fight Weekend. It is a
big pay per view from Amazon Prime and

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our friends at PPV dot Com.
Canello is back. He's fighting Jimi Mangia

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unbeating Mexican former junior middleweight world champ. All of Canelo's belts on the line.

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We're ready to preview that here on
the Big Fight Weekend Preview. I

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am merely TJ Reeves. He is
our insider Dan Rayfield. Has he been

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busy at all this week? I
think so? He is with me from

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Vegas on scene, OL on location. Lots to talk about with Canelo's fight,

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anything going on with Ryan Garcia by
the way, Thanks, How are

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things because you have had quite as
we're doing this Thursday night into Friday,

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You've had quite the twenty four to
thirty six hours in Las Vegas. How

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are things just overall in Vegas as
we ramp up to Canelo and Canelo pay

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per view fight? We can Yeah, things are good. You know,

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haven't been out here since the last
Canelo fight in September, so it's been

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a bit that's probably one of the
longest times between fights in Las Vegas I've

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had in a long long time.
So it's exciting. You know, people

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are already in the casino, in
the hotel, and there's a lot of

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signage, and you know there's a
big event here and so that's cool.

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And then of course I was going
to be busy doing stuff for the fight.

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And then of course our good friend
mister Ryan Garcia pop positive, which

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we'll get to which I broke that
story. So my phone. You're lucky

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I can talk to you right now
because it was melting down last night with

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all the phone calls and text messages
and emails I was getting. It was

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absolutely crazy, But we persevere and
on we go. Yes, we do

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an outstanding job. I'm propping you
and we put a couple of stories up

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on Big Fight Weekend. You did
on your substack, phenomenal job in ferreting

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all of that info out. That's
why you are who you are and we

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love having you here for the insight
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off the weekend Sunday night into Monday. So we've got a lot to get

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to on this Canelo fight Car.
But if you enjoy this, make sure

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you follow and subscribe. Again,
you'll hear from Canelo and the Wednesday press

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conference that he had, you know, the whole fight press conference, the

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main event fight press conference where he
and Oscar dal La Hooya. Okay,

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I mean, we knew it was
bad and it reared its ugly head and

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Dan was right there. So you're
gonna hear from Canelo in his own words

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in a few minutes. We'll talk
more about Ryan Garcia in a little bit,

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but Canelo is the main thing we're
doing here with the preview. Set

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the scene, because again, you
were at the press conference. I know

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it's Thursday leading to Friday as we're
doing this, but set the scene,

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Sinko de myio weekend as we're getting
ready for the return of Canal well TG.

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I think pretty much everybody expect us
to be a good fight but he

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hasn't really been that kind of promotion. And the reason is because himI Mangia

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is a nice guy, a humble
guy, doesn't say anything bad about anybody.

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And while Canelo has no problem mfing
anybody and given him the proverbial backhand,

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he doesn't do it unless the other
person starts with him. He's like

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he can be in the ring.
He's a counterpuncher at heart, and when

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it comes to the trash talk,
he's a counter talker, I guess.

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So if Mangia has started to press
his buttons and get out of the line

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with him and start to say nasty
things and you know, get up in

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his face and all that kind of
business, Canelo would give it right back

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to him. But if Mogia is
going to keep it cool and be reserved

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and be humble and nice, and
we're gonna have a great uh, you

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know, We're gonna give a great
fan, a great fight for our Mexican

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fans and for all the boxing world, and we'll we'll beat each other up

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in the ring. They're not going
to get on each other outside of the

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ring. So that has made for
a high anticipation for a great fight,

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but a rather sleepy promotion. I
mean the promotion kickoff when they did the

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news conference in La was like,
you know, I've seen more exciting ballets,

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uh and and now we get to
fight week. And it was looking

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like it was going to be sort
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Randa rivals. And so whether it
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have that kind of beef and they
went at each other. You have extremely

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bad blood from Oscar and Canelo towards
each other. Yeah, they're very acrimonious.

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Break them and you know when there
was a lot of disagreements about how

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things were going and that that ended
in twenty eighteen, and you know,

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here we go. They they could
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at Oscar, and Oscar pretty much
had it up to hear with it.

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And when he got to the podium
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he went off on Canelo and like
said, you know, all you've done

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this whole promotion is not me and
haven't promoted the fight, And then Oscar

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went on like a self deprecating kind
of rant, which he's like, yeah,

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I've been in rehab I've had a
lot of problems. I dealt with

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my mental health, you know,
And yeah, I missed your fight with

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Mayweather because they brought me to rehab
and and you know, you're stepping on

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me when I'm down, and you
know whatever. And then it just did

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kind of devolve from there. And
you know, he brought up the drug

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test that Canelo failed back in the
uh in the free rematch with Triple G

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right, which really got under Canelo's
skin because he hates that topic. And

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he stood up and he started to
go towards Oscar and and you know,

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it looked like they were going to
fight in that moment you were in the

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room, did you consider at that
moment, this is not hyping the pay

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per view, this is legit?
Or how did you perceive it? Because

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you've been around a lot of these
I think Oscar said what he said for

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two reasons. One a little bit
of catharsis to finally get it off his

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chest, because Canelo has really been
pissing him off, and he had the

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big stage in front of him.
And I do think because he's a promoter

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and he was a great fighter who
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He was doing it knowing that Haimi
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to ignite any fireworks, and that
it was going to be on somebody to

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bring this promotion to a little bit
of a higher fever pitch. So I

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think it was a combination of I'm
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and one of the by products is
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lot of buzz. And so that
was the perspective I had about how Oscar

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handle it. I think Canelo was
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He would have definitely gone after him, so that, you know,

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that was the highlight of the press
convers It wasn't anything that Mongi has said

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about Canelo or Canelo about Mongia.
They they're they're you know, being hugely

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respectful. You know the you know, Eddie Renoso and Freddie Roach, the

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trainers aren't gonna get into it,
Freddy and renosso they are also the respectful

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types. And uh that was the
way Tom Brown, who's the TGB promotions

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promoter from PBC, he doesn't really
engage in a lot of shit talk either.

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So you know, somebody had us
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and leave it to the golden boy
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view. He did it all right, So we're gonna hear from Canelo in

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just a second. I'm with you
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no doubt Mangia brings two things offense
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for the most part, I think
we are in. I get the feeling

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you think this too. I think
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likely, and maybe quickly in this
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the type of fighter that Mongia is
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I mean, Mongia is an offense
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one, you know, to give
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I mean, that's just the style. And I think the one thing that

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people mistake about Canelo Albarez is that
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him as a prototypical stereotypical however you
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simply straight, you know, straight
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certainly can do that, he has
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in his nature, his most comfortable
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that's why I feel like the fight
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he's gonna let Haimi Mungie walk right
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counter him, and that's gonna make
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good style fight. So I think
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brawl, but he can counter,
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of those very well. He can
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on you. Going to be exciting
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when it comes push to shove,
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And to me, I've never you
know, you got to go back to

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the Jose Miguel Koto fight and many
many years ago here at the MGM Grand

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in Las Vegas where I am presently, where he got really hurt bad in

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the first round, and everybody kind
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Well, I've never seen him really
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way in all the you know what
fifteen years or so since then, So

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I know he's got one of the
all time great chints because he's been in

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with some way bigger punches than Mangia. Two fights with with a triple g

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in there with Kovalev, you know, not the beebles a big puncher,

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but he was obviously a much bigger
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top puncher, James Kirkland, who
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Miguelkota, who was a top puncher. We can just go on through the

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line of all the guys he's faced. Mangia. Dude gets hit and like

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you said, do we not see
him rock numerous times against devren Chengo was

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not a puncher, right, So
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and he'll be able to take it
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the and the and the the less
wear and tear and that kind of thing.

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But you gotta figure, at least
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by mid fight, you know,
Canelo starts to kind of wear him down.

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Now, maybe maybe Monkey can land
some big, big punch and look,

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we know the Canelo, the end
will come at some point. He's

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got over sixty fights, he's got
a lot of hard rounds. He's you

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know, he's into his You know
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now when term pro when's like fifteen
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I mean a lot of mileage.
Still great, but is he at

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his absolute best. I think he
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of what he was when he was
at his best. He's still really fucking

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good, but at some point it's
not going to be considered that big of

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an upset because you can see it
coming. When you get that many fights

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in that many rounds and now you're
in with another young, strong, hungry,

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good puncher, you know, unfortunate
things can happen. I don't think

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it's gonna be Saturday, but I'll
have to be honest, I wouldn't be

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totally shocked if it was all right, well handicap. This more first mentioned

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on the bet US Boxing show one
Eastern Time or Dan Time ten Pacific in

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Las Vegas. On the Full Breakdown, We're going to break down the rest

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of the car in a moment that
has a couple of intriguing names on it,

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but without further delay, and I
promise we're getting to the Ryan Garcia

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conversation too, because there's a lot
of people frothing and wanting to hear more

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about what you broke and that kind
of stuff, how you found it out,

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the reaction to it. But without
delay. Again when the press conference

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was over, this is good stuff. Where you said to me, Canelo

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waved at you, like get over
here, because you would interviewed him recently

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and you've got a chance to talk
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and forth with Oscar. That's kind
of cranked this up a little bit,

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right, Yeah, No, I
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It wasn't like he motioned me.
I was there waiting to take my turn.

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But what happens is a lot of
times afterwards are we kind of they

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tell you TV side goes to one
fighter and then the writer's slash, I

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guess whatever not not the guys with
the cameras anyway goes to the other fighter,

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and then they're supposed to switch.
I've done a thousand press commerce.

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The switch is really tough. I
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who was doing the TV first,
because I needed to talk to him more

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than Mangia. Uh, and so
I just mind my business. But Canelo

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saw me, you know, shook
my hand and was like basically gave me

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the hey wait and did a couple
of his things that were ahead of me,

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and then uh, a lot of
the guys that were talking to him,

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they make them do it in a
group, but I guess I have

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some special dispensation and he, you
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one on one. Uh, and
they called me over. And then you'll

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when they hear the audio, my
good pow. Lance Pugmeyer a longtime boxing

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writer for the La Times and also
for a while at the Athletic. Now

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he's writing at Boxing Scene, who
also has covered for Canlo for many years,

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so he kind of was in there
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hear when you hear the few minutes
that we're going to play, you'll hear

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Lance towards the end ask one or
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that I had. Good way to
set it up. So here was Canelo

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and more. Let's go to that
right now. What was it that set

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you off? What Oscar said at
the press conference? What made you show

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at this card title, get up
into front? He insulted, me.

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He insulted me, and that's why
I get he insulted me, and and

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I don't want to permit that.
You look like you were gonna puncher.

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Yeah, I will if he if
he if he comes closer, and I

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fuck him. What were you saying
him in Spanish when you first started to

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shout at him. No, he's
he's on a fucking asshole and he's he

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tried to steal money from the fighters, and he maybe steal money from their

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fires. I don't know, but
I had proves why he tried to steal

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my money from me, from all
in everything, but you know, he's

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a fucking an asshole. So when
I asked you did that he don't care

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about his fighter because he tried to
to. He tried, he tried to.

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He tried to to to to bring
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he don't care about the Hemi mung
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waken from Mungia. He don't care
anything about his fighter. He just about

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him. When we did our zoom
together, I asked you if it would

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give you more satisfaction beyond just winning
and beating an undefeated fighter, would he

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give you bigger satisfaction by taking down
Oscars number one fighter. You said you

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didn't care. Then you kind of
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when I kind of pressed you.
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I'm gonna be so happy that night
you will see, Well, what

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will you do to that? Besides
I'm gonna I'm gonna fucking motherfucker son of

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a bitch. I don't think there's
much more to say than that. Yeah,

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Okay, I'm very I'm very strong. I'm very strong fighter behind what

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was that when you made a reference? Look, we did a lot of

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recording this flight, the part that
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bro he tred to steal money from
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his own fight with. No,
no, no, he tried to steal

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money from me from my five with
the Love fis and he tried to steal

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money from love for the second fighter
the first fight. I don't I don't

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remember maybe phrase one two one three
one three one not because it was second

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one of these one but if he
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have proofs, did you have a
feeling that something like this is gonna go

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down today? Or you forget Yeah, I cannot have the feeling he already

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because he just wont attention to him
no matter what I noticed. He wasn't

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in the picture when all the teams
were together like Kimi and the home.

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Because he comes closer, I really
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If he come really close to me, I I bunched him in that situation.

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Again, how much of it is
hyping the pay per view? How

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much of it is genuine? I
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that if he got a chance to
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probably would because of previous bad blood, and if Oscars was ten years younger,

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maybe be setting up his own fight
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promoter. Okay, So we've talked
a lot about that rest of this car

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that includes Mario Barrios finding Fabio Maidonna
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That's the co feature Brandon figure Rola, who we heard from on this podcast

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this past weekend, fighting Jesse Magdaleno
interim featherweight title for the WBC on the

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line. Wait, there's more in
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WBA Regular Welterweight title, and a
couple of other fights. So let's just

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go through what else intrigues you here? I went down the laundry list on

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this pay per view from a PBC
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etc. What else intrigues you here? Well, in terms of the matchups,

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like, I don't there's not one
overwhelming matchup. I think they're all

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pretty solid. Like, I don't
think there's one that truly like stands out

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like, oh it's a can't misfight. But I happen to think that Figaro

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and Magdaleno is a pretty good fight. I feel like the welterweights, they're

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sort of setting up the future because, as everybody knows, the welterweight division

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is about to become kind of open
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no more stranglehold. There's you know, Spence is done in the weight class,

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and coming off the loss, Crawford's
as the unified champion's already giving up

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one belt, the boots Tennis you
know who it's the interim champion. But

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clearly with his fight against Madromov's schedule
for August third, it'll be sooner than

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later that he will vacate all the
rest of the belts. And what will

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me what that will mean was that
Mario Barrios or whoever wins between Mario Barrios

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and Fabian Maydonna is going to become
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with the WBA, because once Crawford
gives up that belt as standionis winner against

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Mayestre will be the champion. They're
with PBC, so they're you know,

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both guys have talked about standing on
with Sambaris, about maybe fighting each other,

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so but they got to get there
first. In Fabian Madonna, who

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Barrios this fighting. That's the the
younger brother, probably not as good younger

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brother as Marcos Maydon, who made
many great fights, including two memorable matchups

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with with Floyd Mayweather and the beatdown
that he gave to Adrian Broner, and

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you know a bunch of other exciting
fights. Uh. I feel like Barrios

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is sort of coming into his own
a little bit, Like I was never

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really that high on him, but
he's looked pretty good in recent fights.

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He's got to win by a knockout
against Giovanni Santiago, who a lot of

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people thought beat Broner. He had
a very good performance where he busted up

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or Dennis Ugus and was pretty dominant, uh to win this vacant interim belt.

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Now he's fighting Madonna, who's being
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Barrios is still sort of on the
upswing. He's taken a couple of tough

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losses, but he's kind of gotten
over them. He lost the decision to

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Keith Thurman a few years ago.
He also got knocked out at one forty

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in a regular title fight by Gervonta
Davis, the one time the Tank went

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up in that into that weight class. But Barrio's obviously is gonna be a

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big favorite against mcdonna. And with
Stanionis he's fighting Mayestra, he's you know,

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a two time of limping only six
and oh or six to a draw,

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six oh one. I believe it
is. I don't know what the

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obsession is with them with this guy. He's okay and he's coming off a

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nice knockout against the young, unproven
fighter trayvon Marshall. That took place,

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actually I was at that card.
It took place near DC and the the

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MGM National Harbor. But whatever,
I'm Glad Stanionis is back because this is

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a poor guy that has been out
of the ring from his two years,

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not to his own fault. He
got sick with that and needed an epidectomy.

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He dealt with the medical issues of
Victor Ortiz finally when it was rescheduled

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the second time, then it was
canceled altogether on fight week because of martizes

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in a ability to make the weight
in dehydration, and he's just been languishing.

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So he's a young, prime guy, undefeated. It's great to see

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him back in the ring. He's
exciting. Look, the last fight he

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had against Boutayev was a fucking sensational
fight, and we haven't seen him perform

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since then. So we're seeing these
good guys in there, and it's mostly

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not been his fault. Yes,
he had the appendicitis back what almost two

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years ago, but the rest of
this has not been his fault. So

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I'm with you, We're ready to
see him. We're ready to see what

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he's going with. Yeah, and
with Figureoa, he's another guy been off

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for a long time, you know. Has just a one very really close

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loss in a unification against Stephen Fulton
that a lot of people thought that Brandon

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was the winner. He did fight, you know, a couple times since

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then. When he went up to
Featherate, he looked very solid and beating

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Castro in an eliminator, he got
the title shot, he beat Magsiah won

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the WBC interim belt, and now
again that was fourteen months ago. Uh,

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and so he's back in there against
Magdalena. I'm looking to get back

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and get busy. And Magdaleno is
a credible guy. He's been a title

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holder in one hundred and twenty two
pound weight class. You know, he

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does have a recent or not too
passed lost by a decision Torey Ford,

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who then went on to win the
WBA title. So it's an okay fight.

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And then you know, in terms
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for free on Prime Video, you've
got, you know, two young guys

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that are trying to make their way. You got the return of Jesus Ramos,

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who we all know got ripped off
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action in a ten rounder at junior
middle eight. And then the other fighter

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is the young prospect who's only twenty
one years old. He's till a a

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young kid, he's eighteen. And
one is that Vito mil Nicki Junior taking

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on the you know, pretty solid
veteran Ronald Cruz. And so you know,

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Rainmos and mil Nicky are say,
let's say the future a guys that

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can rise up the level for the
PBC group of fights. And so they're

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for free. So look, I
can't sit here and tell you it's not

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August third in terms of the depth
of the card or the five on five

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plus better bv than and Dimitri Biobo, but this is this is a pretty

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good card, particularly when you have
such an attractive main event, no doubt.

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Speaking of that excellent segue, they're
mighty one. Let's find out more

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This is becoming a good habit for
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big events. And here we go
with Cinco de Mayo, wink In and

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Canelo Alvarez good to have you back. And full disclosure to the audience.

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Mark has been in Vegas for fight
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that we're doing the interview and is
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So thank you for accommodating us on
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and we're excited for Canelo and Mongia
and whatever is about to happen. Good

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to have you, Yeah, no, thank you. It's good to be

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here again. And you know what
EJ this time of year, heading into

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Kentucky Derby Sinko to Mayo weekend,
it just feels right. It's a big

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fight weekend. It's been that way
for decades. And sure enough we have

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our Canelo standard bearer, you know, fight this weekend, so it's gonna

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be great. I see what you
did there with the Big Fight Weekend reference

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for the Big Fight Weekend podcast website. That's very nice on that. Again,

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we say this every time that we
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primary things we want to emphasize is
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to get a great viewing experience four
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whichever you have and also interactive,
and I love this. I will

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tell you that during the Haini Garcia
fight, I enjoy the interaction from Jim

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Lampley, Lance poug Meyer, Dan
Kenobio and of course a former fighter Chris

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Aljeri is in there. You have
great interaction going on as well for the

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fan experience. Yeah, and DJ, thanks for mentioning that, because we

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really have the best engagement we've ever
had in our chat during that fight.

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During Haini Garcia A there was so
much going on, so much build up

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to it. I think people were
just anxious to talk about it. So

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we had four experts, great guys, really sharp Chris, of course,

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brings such a whole other dimension as
a former fighter who's been in major fight.

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So it was the best chat we've
ever had, and I anticipate for

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this one it's going to be It's
going to be as good, if not

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better. Love it all right,
fun one for you, because we all

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love the fights. This guy,
Canelo, first ballot, unanimous Hall of

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Famer, We get it. I
don't know, I'm not wishing this.

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I don't know how many more times
we're going to see this. Are we

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going to see it a couple of
more times? Are we going to see

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it four or five more times?
For that, take advantage fight fans,

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because you're not guaranteed how many more
times you're going to see one of the

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great certainly in modern boxing pound for
pound and Canelo correct, Oh no,

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you're You're absolutely right. And he's
been, as I said earlier, a

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standard bearer for the sport now for
the last several years, and he clearly

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wants to keep going. He definitely
has a few more big fights in him.

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But this kind of excitement Sinko de
Mayo weekend. You know you don't

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get these forever with each of the
fighters, right, We had the same

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thing with Floyd. We had the
same thing with Oscar. At some point

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he's going to pass the torch,
so we got to enjoy it now while

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we have him, because it's not
going to be around that much longer.

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I agree with you on that.
Another fun one. As we talk about

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what we might or might not see, we have been joking. We did

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this just before you came on.
The two things we know about Jimi Mongie

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a big time offense and punching power. And the second thing, he's there

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to be hit. So either way
him coming forward and trying to land and

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or being supposed to be here,
it should we don't know for sure,

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it should make for an intriguing fight
for the fans. Yeah, I'm looking

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forward to it. Yeah, I'm
looking forward to it for for those reasons.

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You know. I look at it
as you know, this young up

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and coming stud against what's become an
extremely savvy veteran right Canelo's in ring,

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Iq has just gone up remarkably so
and throughout his career. So I think

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you're right. I think we're going
to have a lot of back and forth.

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Monkey is going to be aggressive.
I look at this as probably a

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Canelo. You know you're kind of
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has a late finish. That's that's
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May very well wear him down.
We'll find out. One thing is

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410
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join me under all circumstances, especially
here. Again I say once more thank

411
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you because we made all of this
work. It's worth it though for Canelo

412
00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:26,480
fight weekend, which it is.
Thank you for the time, my friend.

413
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I appreciate it as always. You
bet, You're welcome as always,

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00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:36,440
all right, so we have given
you plenty on the Canelo main event the

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Amazon payperview here PPV dot com from
Premiere Boxing champions. Oh that's not all,

416
00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:48,720
because we have coming early Monday US
time, Monday night in Tokyo,

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00:25:48,839 --> 00:25:52,079
the return of the Monster and the
undisputed junior featherweight titles are on the line

418
00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:57,720
for Naola in a Way and Luis
Nary Tokyo Dome, the site where a

419
00:25:57,799 --> 00:26:03,559
Buster Douglas upset Might Tyson some thirty
four years ago. That will be on

420
00:26:03,759 --> 00:26:07,880
Monday. Give me a little more
about this. What a weekend as we

421
00:26:07,079 --> 00:26:11,480
in the weekend, we've got the
Monster coming Monday morning US time. I

422
00:26:11,559 --> 00:26:14,720
mean, look, who doesn't love
watching in a Way fight. I mean,

423
00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:18,359
he's one of the most exciting fighters
in boxing. He's a sensational talent.

424
00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:22,599
He's you know, if you don't
think Crawford's number one pound for pound,

425
00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:25,480
you must think in a way his
pound for pound number one. That's

426
00:26:25,519 --> 00:26:27,720
the type of ability he has.
He unified the whole division in his last

427
00:26:27,759 --> 00:26:30,359
fight with a beatdown against Merlin to
Polis, you know who gave a good

428
00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:34,720
effort but was really outclassed pretty much
completely in that fight. And now here

429
00:26:34,799 --> 00:26:40,720
he goes in the first defensive all
four belts against a guy who's got a

430
00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:44,880
notoriety in Japan. Because of his
past fights there where he didn't make the

431
00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:48,559
way where he beat up a popular
champion where he had a positive test.

432
00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:52,559
He's like public enemy number one.
The one good thing, though, is

433
00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:55,599
he's on weight, like they've been
showing his weight like every day, like

434
00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:57,319
WBCs can keep it track. If
he missed his weight, it's going to

435
00:26:57,359 --> 00:27:00,279
be like a biggest chocker in the
rug. They were showing pictures of him

436
00:27:00,559 --> 00:27:04,920
being already at weight basically like from
a few days ago. So it should

437
00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:07,599
be an exciting fight because that's the
kind of fights that near he makes,

438
00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:11,160
and the kind of fights that in
a way makes near. He was in

439
00:27:11,279 --> 00:27:14,480
what I picked as the fight of
the year last year in that tremendous battle,

440
00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:19,480
was the eliminator to get this title
shot against Hovansician that was on a

441
00:27:19,519 --> 00:27:23,559
Golden Boy, his own card.
And I think that the Tokyo Dome is

442
00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:27,599
going to as the kids say,
TJ it's going to be lit sixty thousand

443
00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:30,759
people. First boxing event there since
the Tyson fight. Like you mentioned,

444
00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:34,160
I think only the second boxing match
ever there. It's only been the Tyson

445
00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:37,400
fight. There hasn't ever been another
boxing match in the Tokyo Doon't to my

446
00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:41,160
recollection, and you know this is
going to show you the superstardom level that

447
00:27:41,279 --> 00:27:45,240
NOI in a way has there to
be able to basically sell this place out

448
00:27:45,519 --> 00:27:47,599
put on this kind of magnitude of
a fight. And for those of us

449
00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:49,599
in America, these are the kind
of fights that when I got into boxing,

450
00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:52,720
and even in more recent years,
you just never can see in America.

451
00:27:52,839 --> 00:27:55,720
You know I would see them,
because we've talked about so I would

452
00:27:55,720 --> 00:28:00,880
get the vhs or the DVD trade
from with somebody or whatever. I'm just

453
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:03,680
gonna just wake up early Monday morning
and pop on your ESPN Plus, and

454
00:28:03,759 --> 00:28:06,359
not only do you have the inn
Away fight, but all the other fights

455
00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:07,000
that are on that card, which
you know, we don't got to get

456
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:10,599
into all the details of every single
one of those matchups, but here's the

457
00:28:10,599 --> 00:28:15,200
bottom line. Besides that fight,
which is great on paper, you got

458
00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:18,799
Jason Maloney defending the w BO Manhamweight
title. He got noya in Away's brother,

459
00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:23,079
Takuma in a way defending the WBA
banham Way title, which he picked

460
00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:26,599
up after his brother vacated the undisputed
title of Dannaway. And he got the

461
00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:32,559
newly crowned A WBA Flyway champion Koui. He's defending his title. So you

462
00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:34,440
got a plethora of title fights.
Some of them are pretty solid matchups,

463
00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:38,359
and you got, you know,
an A level main event. So you

464
00:28:38,599 --> 00:28:41,880
set your alarms. As they say, kids, ray Field's gonna be good

465
00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:45,640
and screwed up because you're gonna fly
back all day Sunday after Canelo and Pacific

466
00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:51,480
time zone to get back and then
try to figure out what time you're waking

467
00:28:51,599 --> 00:28:56,400
up for this uh in a way
main event on Monday morning. I gotta

468
00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:57,000
tell you this, though, This
is how fucked up it is. So

469
00:28:57,000 --> 00:29:00,880
okay, I've been coming to Vegas
for a long long time on a regular

470
00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:06,200
basis. The I fly Americans,
where I have all my miles forever,

471
00:29:06,359 --> 00:29:10,039
so I got gazillions of miles,
I use them whatever, So I'm spoiled

472
00:29:10,079 --> 00:29:15,039
and I'm a militant on my airline. Here's the issue. There's one flight

473
00:29:15,119 --> 00:29:18,599
a day from where I live in
DC to Vegas, and there's one NonStop

474
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:22,599
a day from Vegas back to DC. I take the same flight every single

475
00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:27,559
time. As a matter of fact, I got no problem getting my butt

476
00:29:27,559 --> 00:29:30,480
out here for this fight. But
the flight home on Sunday was sold out,

477
00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:33,680
so I had to like figure out
what's my alternative plan. So instead

478
00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:37,079
of leaving in like the afternoon on
Sunday, like I typically I hang out

479
00:29:37,119 --> 00:29:40,880
after the fight, I sleep in, I leisurely packed. I go to

480
00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:42,319
the airport and I hang out and
have a little something to drink, something

481
00:29:42,359 --> 00:29:45,880
to lunch, and get on the
plane and fall asleep and come home.

482
00:29:45,319 --> 00:29:49,559
Now I'm all fucked up DJ because
now now I'm gonna be up super late

483
00:29:49,599 --> 00:29:53,480
after the fight like usual. Right
my flight leaves Vegas, I had no

484
00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:56,240
choice. It was either take a
flight that takes me to a stop.

485
00:29:56,480 --> 00:30:00,599
So I got to figure out which
is the best stop. Figured I'm going

486
00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:06,559
to be super tired. I'm taking
a seven am from Pacific Pacific time,

487
00:30:07,279 --> 00:30:10,920
and I didn't want to stop in
Phoenix because I'd rather do the long part

488
00:30:11,279 --> 00:30:14,559
so I can sleep for several hours, and even if I don't, at

489
00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:17,519
least when I land, I'm I'm
not in a position on the East Coast

490
00:30:17,519 --> 00:30:19,319
where if I had to, I
could take a train back home to d

491
00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:22,839
C. So I'm flying to Philadelphia. Then I got like the hour layover

492
00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:26,359
in Philly. Then I got the
other you know, once you take off,

493
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:30,279
it's like maybe you know, fifty
minutes to get back to DC.

494
00:30:30,599 --> 00:30:33,599
So I'll be home earlier than I
normally would be, but I'm going to

495
00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:37,079
be completely fucked up from the night
before. All right, So there's the

496
00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:40,599
travel travails. And by the way, somewhere in there we're going to work

497
00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:44,440
a recap podcast in with my man
jet lagged before in a way is in

498
00:30:44,519 --> 00:30:45,640
the rings. Hey, all I
can say is Monday. I know,

499
00:30:45,799 --> 00:30:49,000
I know a whole bunch of people
that are involved who are going to Tokyo

500
00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:52,400
for the inn a a fight from
top ranking others who are then going from

501
00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:57,880
there to Perth, Australia, which
is like a freaking crazy trip, and

502
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:03,759
then some of them are going from
there. From Perth they're going to Saudi

503
00:31:03,799 --> 00:31:07,400
Arabia. Yeah, well check this
out. Then they're going from from Perth

504
00:31:07,759 --> 00:31:12,319
Perth to Saudi for USIK, and
then they're going from Saudi to UK for

505
00:31:12,559 --> 00:31:18,039
Taylor Catterall and then back to Saudi
for the June First. It's instaning some

506
00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:21,880
of the Iteas you're saying Vegas to
Philly to Washington, that is not the

507
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:29,079
same as Vegas to Tokyo to Perth
to Riod, my God and the Manchester

508
00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:32,759
and then back through Rio. Oh
that's crazy, all right, great stuff

509
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:36,240
on the breakdowns. Again, the
bet US show will have more handicapping on

510
00:31:36,319 --> 00:31:38,240
those fights one Eastern time on Friday, depending on when you're hearing us,

511
00:31:38,279 --> 00:31:41,640
and again you can rewatch it on
the bet Us platforms, YouTube, et

512
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:45,039
cetera. Let's get to some news
and some nostalgia and then we're done.

513
00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:52,680
Two words, Ryan Garcia, that
has consumed the midweek. I know as

514
00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:56,160
we get to the weekend, the
Canelo fight is the bigger deal. I

515
00:31:56,319 --> 00:31:59,039
have to say this. First of
all, props to you again. Great

516
00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:01,960
job for faridy out this first and
finding out about the positive VADA test.

517
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:07,240
I for one can't say I'm surprised
with everything we saw, and it would

518
00:32:07,319 --> 00:32:10,480
not have surprised me. This is
not the case. If it was recreational

519
00:32:10,559 --> 00:32:14,200
drugs that he had been popped forward, that was not nice thought it was

520
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:17,279
going to this. This did not
surprise me. Okay, you've written a

521
00:32:17,359 --> 00:32:22,000
bunch, you've said some stuff in
the in the build up here, the

522
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:27,000
floor is yours for where this stands. Because Garcia has responded, he's denied

523
00:32:27,079 --> 00:32:30,319
that he did it. Golden Boy
is defending him to an extent and saying

524
00:32:30,319 --> 00:32:32,680
we're waiting for all the facts.
All right, pick it up from there

525
00:32:32,759 --> 00:32:37,079
go. I mean, whether he
did or he didn't, people mistake my

526
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:42,920
reporting where I'm making an accusation which
is just not true. What I reported

527
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:50,279
is what Vada reported to Ryan Garcia
and Devin Haney and the ABC and the

528
00:32:50,559 --> 00:32:54,400
WBC and the New York State Athletic
Commission and the appointed person for those various

529
00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:59,039
groups who are supposed to get the
knowledge of what occurred. So if he

530
00:32:59,079 --> 00:33:00,200
didn't do it, though, I'll
be able to prove it. I suppose

531
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:04,640
in some former fashion. But I
have to tell you so, I've been

532
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:07,440
on social media for a long time
and I get abused and people punish me

533
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:08,519
abouthit. I really don't give a
fuck about it. Honestly, I got

534
00:33:08,559 --> 00:33:12,160
a thick skin at this point.
It makes no difference to me. But

535
00:33:12,279 --> 00:33:15,839
I'm really with shock last night when
I broke this story and I posted it.

536
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:22,319
The Sinkle fans that are involved with
Ryan Garcia fanhood it is, I

537
00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:28,200
don't even It's like they're from another
fucking planet like that. Somehow Rayphael has

538
00:33:28,279 --> 00:33:30,920
it in for Ryan Garcia and is
like on Devin Haney's payroll. I have

539
00:33:31,079 --> 00:33:36,279
said a thousand times from Sunday,
I have been a Devin Hainey fan and

540
00:33:36,359 --> 00:33:38,279
a Ryan Garcia fan for a long
time. I know both of these young

541
00:33:38,359 --> 00:33:43,119
men for many years. I appreciate
their talents. I've covered many of their

542
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:45,960
fights. I know them a bit. I know Ryan probably better than I

543
00:33:45,039 --> 00:33:49,799
know Devin. I've had many more
personal interactions with Ryan on the phone,

544
00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:52,880
I text messages me whatever you know, dms on Twitter and that sort of

545
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:57,519
thing. I know his parents.
I mean, like, I have a

546
00:33:57,559 --> 00:34:00,559
good relationship with Ryan. It does
not give me joy in any way,

547
00:34:00,599 --> 00:34:04,200
shape or form to report that any
fighter, much less somebody that I have,

548
00:34:04,599 --> 00:34:07,199
you know, a pretty decent relationship
with that has this situation come up.

549
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:10,800
So for people to suggest that I'm
out to get Ryan Garcia, or

550
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:15,880
that somehow the establishment or the monolithic
media, which is not monolithic, is

551
00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:21,320
somehow anti Ryan Garcia for reasons such
as this is the wild one. Because

552
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:25,199
a few days ago, Ryan Garcia
posted a video of himself with Donald Trump

553
00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:29,320
and they were taking pictures together.
Me were shadow boxing with Donald Trump,

554
00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:32,039
and like he was, you know, complimenting Donald Trump that because maybe I'm

555
00:34:32,079 --> 00:34:35,800
not the biggest Donald Trumpan, which
ain't no surprise to anybody that knows me

556
00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:42,599
that somehow his politics would play into
my interject having a fel drug Can I

557
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:45,760
interject on your behalf, what does
that have to do with the price of

558
00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:51,400
eggs in Minnesota? The thanks he
failed a drug test, The fact that

559
00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:55,840
he is right, The fact is
you found out about it and reported that

560
00:34:57,119 --> 00:35:00,880
that the world wide Organization was notifying
everybody he failed the drug test. It

561
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:05,519
has nothing to do with what you're
like or dislike. Is you might be

562
00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:08,239
phenomenal at breaking these things and you
found out about it. Period. Thank

563
00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:10,679
you, Thank you, thank you. Let me just say this, and

564
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:15,440
if my mom's listening, no offense. If I found out that my mother

565
00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:17,400
failed a drug test and and then
I could get a good scoop, I'd

566
00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:22,719
write, I would be careful about
scooping with your mother, if you know.

567
00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:28,559
But I'm just making the point that
in our business, this is what

568
00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:31,920
we do it for the fighters get
the rush of the fight or the fans,

569
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:36,719
and in journalism, and I'm just
being real, one of the things

570
00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:40,280
that is exciting about what we do
is to get a great fucking scoop.

571
00:35:40,679 --> 00:35:44,239
And this was a great fucking scoop. And I'm proud to have gotten a

572
00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:46,400
great fucking scoop. And I'll tell
you another thing. Sometimes you'd rather be

573
00:35:46,519 --> 00:35:50,559
lucky than good. So when somebody
knows and you've been in the business twenty

574
00:35:50,599 --> 00:35:52,639
five years or so, and they
call you up and they say you might

575
00:35:52,679 --> 00:35:54,320
want to check this out, and
you know who you should call to check

576
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:58,239
it out, and you do your
due diligence because no one's dropping the dime.

577
00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:00,599
You make a few calls, you
might call in a couple of favors,

578
00:36:00,639 --> 00:36:04,039
you might be out over the years, and one thing leads to another.

579
00:36:04,159 --> 00:36:06,679
Boom boom boom, you know.
And I wasn't willing to put this

580
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:09,280
out with only one source because it's
a really serious accusation. I didn't let

581
00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:13,440
it fly until I had three sources
dead the rice. So when the people

582
00:36:13,519 --> 00:36:15,719
tell me that I'm making it up, they can go fuck themselves. Number

583
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:22,440
one. Number two I posted today
the letter. The letter. I'm not

584
00:36:22,519 --> 00:36:24,400
sure what did I forged the letter. Let me ask another question, TJ.

585
00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:29,840
As long as you've known me,
now do you think for two seconds,

586
00:36:30,039 --> 00:36:32,679
for one second, that I would
take nearly, like I said,

587
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:38,239
nearly twenty five years of cultivating my
sources and my reputation as a fair arbiter

588
00:36:38,559 --> 00:36:43,199
and somebody that reports the facts is
best as I know them at that moment,

589
00:36:43,639 --> 00:36:45,480
that I would take my credibility,
which is the only thing we as

590
00:36:45,519 --> 00:36:50,440
journalists really have in the end,
and flush that fucking shit down the toilet.

591
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:55,280
If I just know not ninety And
by the way, let me further

592
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:59,159
defend you, and then we're going
to move on. When Canelo failed huge

593
00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:01,440
drug test back a few wrote that
story also, yeah, yeah, you

594
00:37:01,559 --> 00:37:05,760
didn't hold back, right, you
reported it. You found out stuff.

595
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:10,280
When other fighters have failed drug test
or you have found out something nefarious,

596
00:37:10,559 --> 00:37:14,920
there's that word about them. You
up this stuff. This is what you've

597
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:17,440
done your whole career at USA today, at ESPN and now through your substack

598
00:37:17,519 --> 00:37:22,519
and what we do. So I
have broken FADA stories on Canelo's drug test,

599
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:25,639
on Tyson Fury's cocaine test, on
Lucas Brown's drug test that cost them

600
00:37:25,639 --> 00:37:30,440
the WBA heavyweight belt, on Jerald
Miller's test that cost him the fight with

601
00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:35,920
Anthony Joshua plenty of Lama Peterson when
he had a problem in the in the

602
00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:38,360
emir Con fight got canceled into the
rematch got canceled. So you know,

603
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:40,559
and there's others. I'm sure,
I just can't think of them off the

604
00:37:40,599 --> 00:37:43,760
top of my head. So it's
not my first rodeo. And the one

605
00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:45,840
thing I wanted to spell the notion
of, by the way, is there

606
00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:49,800
are those out there who think that
somehow that doctor Margaret Goodman who runs Vada

607
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:52,400
is like has me on speed dial
and calls me and just tells me every

608
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:54,840
single time there's a positive test and
trust me. And I tell you I

609
00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:58,239
wish that was true because it would
make my job a whole on It would

610
00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:00,199
have been a whole lot easier on
winds. What you're I mean, so

611
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:02,639
many people say that to me.
So why I know Margaret and I have

612
00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:05,880
none of my entire career, and
I respect her, I like her.

613
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:07,400
We've you know, known each other
for a very long time and we have

614
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:12,039
a cordial relationship and we do talk
every once in a while. I can

615
00:38:12,159 --> 00:38:15,440
tell you with one hundred percent certainty
that there's not one single time ever that

616
00:38:15,599 --> 00:38:17,159
she's been the one to drop the
dime. Matter of fact, I did

617
00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:21,320
call her the other day when I
was trying to get the sources now down

618
00:38:21,639 --> 00:38:25,320
on the on the Ryan Garcia thing
before I actually had everything confirmed, and

619
00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:29,320
you know, she didn't call me
back. I'm not offended by it.

620
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:31,000
I kind of figured, but that's
the way it goes. So anybody who

621
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:34,840
thinks they know where the sources are, they don't, because there's a lot

622
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:37,199
of different people that you deal with
in this business. And by the way,

623
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:42,000
you got the letter that they sent
to everybody saying he's flunked the test.

624
00:38:42,079 --> 00:38:44,559
All right, let's wrap it like
this because we need to move on

625
00:38:44,679 --> 00:38:47,320
to a couple of other things.
Where do we go from here? What

626
00:38:47,559 --> 00:38:52,559
kind of suspension? What do they
do with the result? I have a

627
00:38:52,679 --> 00:38:54,840
very important one too that I would
love. Was he paid in full?

628
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:59,199
And do we know he's already been
paid at least whatever he was guaranteed?

629
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:01,360
Could that be held up? There's
a lot of questions, go. I

630
00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:05,159
don't think there's anything going to be
in terms of the financial aspect of it.

631
00:39:05,159 --> 00:39:07,280
He's gonna get his money to fight
happen, and you know whatever.

632
00:39:07,599 --> 00:39:08,800
But in terms of what happens next, first of all, he can deny

633
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:12,920
all he wants that's fine. It's
it's the onus is gonna be on him

634
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:15,800
to go before the commission there.
I don't know, they haven't. It's

635
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:17,920
all in the infancy because it just
happened, you know, in the last

636
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:22,519
you know day or so. At
some point, most likely later this summer,

637
00:39:22,559 --> 00:39:24,599
there will be a hearing in the
New York State Upletic Commission. He'll

638
00:39:24,639 --> 00:39:28,159
have to go with his representative the
happy hearing, same way they do in

639
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:31,840
any other state, and they'll question
him and they'll they'll go through the situation

640
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:37,199
and again he has still he had
ten days from the time that the test

641
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:40,760
was back to ask for the B
sample to be tested. Now he may

642
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:44,760
do that, he may not,
But on my experience and in the history

643
00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:49,280
of drug testing, like ninety nine
point nine percent of time, whatever is

644
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:51,920
in the A is going to be
in the B, so probably it's going

645
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:55,320
to be positive as well. And
like when it's all said and done,

646
00:39:55,559 --> 00:39:59,360
the end result most likely not one
hundred percent, because you never know.

647
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:01,199
He's going to take a suspension,
don't know how long. It could be

648
00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:04,320
six months, it could be eight
months, could be a year, but

649
00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:07,679
probably be forced to pay a fine
and the result of the fight most likely

650
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:13,079
will be changed from a win for
Ryan to a no contest, and a

651
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:16,719
loss for Haney will come back to
you a perfect undefeated record and the thing

652
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:20,960
will go down as an O connest. Now my understanding is in the statutes

653
00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:24,400
of New York State they have the
option and they and I don't know this

654
00:40:24,559 --> 00:40:29,679
has happened too often. I did
cover a fight and coincidentally, the fighter

655
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:32,760
that this happened to also tested positive
for the substance ostering, which, by

656
00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:37,679
the way, is a performance enhancing
drug that's not quite as heavy as a

657
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:42,480
as a as an anabolic steroid,
but it helps build muscle mass, reduce

658
00:40:42,519 --> 00:40:45,000
fat, and gives more notably scaling. Right. Okay, So there was

659
00:40:45,039 --> 00:40:49,679
a fighter, the former a super
middlewaight title holder, Luciambute, who had

660
00:40:49,679 --> 00:40:52,320
a fight in Washington, d C. A few years ago, and he

661
00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:54,400
fought to a draw in the fight, and he kept the title, and

662
00:40:54,679 --> 00:40:59,320
he tested positive for the same substance
after the fact, the Washington d C

663
00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:02,000
Commission, which I did not know
this rule, tell that occurred. They

664
00:41:02,039 --> 00:41:06,519
didn't give him a no decision or
no contest. They actually gave him from

665
00:41:06,519 --> 00:41:10,360
a victory or rather from the draw
to a disqualification loss. My understanding is

666
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:14,559
that the New York State Athletic Commission
does have the right to make this a

667
00:41:14,679 --> 00:41:19,559
disqualification loss, So that could be
a possibility. That's intriguing if that's the

668
00:41:19,679 --> 00:41:23,840
case. Stay tuned on the suspension, and there's lots more to come out

669
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:25,880
of this. Well said on all
of it, all right, a couple

670
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:30,360
of other news items, because I
mean, we've given you the biggest news

671
00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:35,199
about Canelo weekend and about that.
So Mike Tyson and Jake Paul this was

672
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:37,719
earlier in the week. It is
now officially a fight, but a fight

673
00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:42,519
that has got a couple of stipulations
in it. This is coming late July

674
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:49,840
at and T Stadium in Irving in
Arlington, Texas, where they're expecting seventy

675
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:52,679
thousand plus. It looks like for
this from what I've been seeing, all

676
00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:54,719
right, so it is an official
fight. Give me the particulars here on

677
00:41:55,199 --> 00:41:58,440
what has been announced and what they're
going to do. Real quick in your

678
00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:02,440
thoughts. I'm kind of disappointed,
think of TJ. Why I figured you

679
00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:06,079
would say we have an official fight
with Mike Tyson and you would pause and

680
00:42:06,079 --> 00:42:07,480
you would give me a druidic.
What are we doing here? What are

681
00:42:07,599 --> 00:42:12,840
we doing here? You're gonna have
Mike Tyson on the night of the Fight's

682
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:15,880
gonna be fifty eight years old,
Yeah, who had not had a professional

683
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:19,400
boxing match that was an official fight
since two thousand and five, which is

684
00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:23,400
by my nath genius mind, about
nineteen years before year Son was born and

685
00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:30,199
before my teenage sophomore in high school
twins were born, back when I had

686
00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:36,119
brown hair instead of gray hair,
back when I had yeah right, yeah,

687
00:42:37,639 --> 00:42:38,960
yeah, a twenty seven year old
Jake Paul at his physical prime,

688
00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:44,360
who may not be a boxer from
the crib, but he's been doing pretty

689
00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:47,480
well recently. Strong, no doubt
about that, fighting Mike Tyson in a

690
00:42:47,519 --> 00:42:51,719
fight that they're actually going to count
on the records, which I'm shocked by.

691
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:53,639
But that's gonna happen. But like
you mentioned, there are two caveats.

692
00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:57,400
One is well one of the cavet
it's not that length. It's gonna

693
00:42:57,400 --> 00:42:59,840
be a eight round fight. Not
a shock because Jake's been fighting it.

694
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:04,199
You only had the one ten against
Tommy Fury, and obviously Tyson hasn't fought

695
00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:06,719
a real fight for you know,
twenty years, You're not going to have

696
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:08,239
him in a ten round or twelve
round fight. So they decided on the

697
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:12,760
eight round or no issue there.
The thing that was sort of gives me

698
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:15,280
pause to really kind of even think
about this as an official fight, that

699
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:20,599
they're going to make a men's boxing
match two minute rounds and they're going to

700
00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:23,519
use fourteen ounce clubs. No,
normally heavy weights would use ten ounce clubs.

701
00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:30,079
That is I think a compromise because
you know, they feel like that

702
00:43:30,119 --> 00:43:35,480
would do less damage but also may
less than the impact of Jay kids him.

703
00:43:35,519 --> 00:43:37,039
Also, I don't know how what
the reasons for the fourteen ounces are,

704
00:43:37,599 --> 00:43:42,920
but certainly the length of round benefits
Mike Tyson because when you watch his

705
00:43:43,599 --> 00:43:46,880
videos that his team places on social
media on Instagram and on Twitter and everything,

706
00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:52,440
you see him with these crazy combinations
and explosive you know, jobs to

707
00:43:52,519 --> 00:43:55,440
the midst or to the body bag, but they're like ten, fifteen,

708
00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:59,440
twenty seconds, and so he can
you know, he's still a good enough

709
00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:01,880
athlete and still has the muscle memory
to summon that up to make for a

710
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:06,320
nice looking video. My question is, when Mike Tyson's in the ring against

711
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:09,719
another man who's half his age who's
throwing real right hands at him. Is

712
00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:13,400
he gonna be able to do that
same type of activity, And even if

713
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:15,840
he can, can he sustain it
for more than like the Isaiah the fifteen

714
00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:17,880
or twenty seconds. And the reason
I'm saying that is because I think that

715
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:21,960
a lot of people think about Mike
Tyson and they remember the highlights of them

716
00:44:22,039 --> 00:44:24,360
knocking out Trevor Burbick in a knocking
out, you know, all these other

717
00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:28,800
top fighters that he was destroying back
in the day. What I remember more

718
00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:30,079
than that I watched those fights as
a kid. I was a teenager when

719
00:44:30,119 --> 00:44:35,719
that was happening. But my memories
are going to fucking Tennessee and watching the

720
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:37,440
Lenning s Lewis beat the living shit
out of him and he had, you

721
00:44:37,519 --> 00:44:40,920
know, an explosion of offense in
round one and then couldn't do anything because

722
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:45,440
he was so gassed, or going
and watching him get knocked out by just

723
00:44:45,559 --> 00:44:50,360
journeyman, you know, guys who
were just regular nothings like Danny Williams and

724
00:44:50,559 --> 00:44:53,599
and uh and Kevin McBride, And
it was nearly twenty years ago when that

725
00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:58,239
was happening, by the way,
and then sitting with Kevin mc kid sitting

726
00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:02,360
with Tyson, myself and my former
USA Today colleague John Saracino for like a

727
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:07,760
half an hour thirty five minutes after
the press comments of McBride where he poured

728
00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:10,559
his soul in his heart out about
how much he hates boxing, how he

729
00:45:10,639 --> 00:45:14,800
doesn't like the smell of the gym, how he never wants to wear gloves

730
00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:17,320
again, how he doesn't have it
in him anymore to do this, how

731
00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:22,039
he just wants to never fight again. And now he's doing Obviously it's for

732
00:45:22,119 --> 00:45:25,239
the money Netflix, which is gonna
air this event along with the real fight,

733
00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:31,280
which is the women's rematch between Katie
Taylor and Amanda Serrano. They're paying

734
00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:35,639
massive amounts of money for this event, so he's gonna do it for the

735
00:45:35,679 --> 00:45:38,159
money. I can't blame it for
that, but you know, it's gonna

736
00:45:38,159 --> 00:45:40,920
be a fucking spectacle, dude,
and I'm gonna travel to Texas to cover

737
00:45:42,039 --> 00:45:45,800
it because it is what it is. It is. So there's the parameters

738
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:50,760
again, and people are also looking
at Tyson having fought Roy Jones, fought

739
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:52,800
Eric Quotes, and the exhibition they
had that was nearly four years ago,

740
00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:54,440
three and a half years. So
let me tell you something about that.

741
00:45:54,519 --> 00:45:59,360
I heard that same thing right.
Andy Foster, who is the executive director

742
00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:04,000
at the Cowlfornia Athletic Commission. It
had a conversation with both teams, basically

743
00:46:04,079 --> 00:46:07,960
called them into the officer went into
the dress rooms and reiterated, once again,

744
00:46:07,599 --> 00:46:12,519
we are here to entertain the fans. We're not going for knockouts.

745
00:46:12,559 --> 00:46:15,559
Now they it's been misreported that that
they there couldn't be a knockout because if

746
00:46:15,559 --> 00:46:17,760
a guy lands, you might knock
a guy out. But they were not

747
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:23,119
supposed to go for the knockout.
They were supposed to like not really go

748
00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:28,960
all out move around, and there
were not official judges, and that was

749
00:46:29,039 --> 00:46:34,719
said up front. So it was
more of an exhibition in that exactly what

750
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:39,480
it was. And where another older
legendary, yes, punchy fighter who's in

751
00:46:39,559 --> 00:46:45,760
his forties. This is a younger
guy who's twenty seven, who if he

752
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:51,280
lands, who knows what happened?
So and where Tyson and Roy Jones,

753
00:46:51,559 --> 00:46:54,480
whatever the age discrepancy was. My
feeling was that Roy Jones was more shot

754
00:46:54,519 --> 00:47:00,760
than Tyson, right, and the
only judging where the celebrity just which ruled

755
00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:05,119
a draw to my recollection with which
which we basically understood that if it goes

756
00:47:05,199 --> 00:47:07,039
the route, they're not going to
declare a winter, They're going to declare

757
00:47:07,079 --> 00:47:09,119
to draw it. So my point
is this, you cannot you cannot look

758
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:15,679
and use that in any way break
to handicap how Tyson will look against Jake

759
00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:19,239
Palm four years later nearly all right, so well done. That's coming late

760
00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:22,440
late in July. We got more
on that. The the eight two minute

761
00:47:22,519 --> 00:47:25,159
rounds is interesting. The bigger gloves
are interesting. One more item. Oh,

762
00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:30,639
by the way, we do have
upcoming that Deontay Wilder is fighting Jelai

763
00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:37,320
Jiang in this five on five matchup
June the first, and now look at

764
00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:43,199
this Turkey Ala Chic wasted no time
in saying Jared Anderson and Deontay Wilder is

765
00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:46,719
a fight that he wants for that
August third card in Los Angeles. Should

766
00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:52,320
Wilder be victorious and come out of
it unscathed, how surprised are you at

767
00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:54,440
that? Real quick, before we
get the nostalgia and get out of here.

768
00:47:55,599 --> 00:47:59,519
I'm surprised because it's just kind of
a fight that comes out of the

769
00:47:59,519 --> 00:48:01,440
blue. I mean, it's it's
not a fight that it has been demanding,

770
00:48:01,559 --> 00:48:05,079
but it's still a tremendous interesting fight
if you ask me, You've got

771
00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:07,960
the hop young up and coming American
against the you know, the the huge

772
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:12,800
punching former American top star who's you
know, trying to find his way back.

773
00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:15,880
Makes for like the tort of you
know, sort of an obvious crossroads

774
00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:19,400
kind of fight. Uh. But
if they add that to the show,

775
00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:21,960
But we went through the show when
they announced it, and we went through

776
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:24,599
all the different fights. It's the
official tj uh and and you get more

777
00:48:24,679 --> 00:48:29,079
and how much? How much more? How much would you pay now?

778
00:48:29,119 --> 00:48:32,119
Forty ninety five? There's more,
Wait, there's more. So this would

779
00:48:32,159 --> 00:48:36,239
take it from the six fights that
we've discussed, which are all interesting for

780
00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:40,239
various reasons, to now suddenly adding
a super interesting fight between these two heavyweights.

781
00:48:40,519 --> 00:48:47,880
Now again he's gotta beat he beats
exactly right, right, but but

782
00:48:49,159 --> 00:48:53,000
just to so when when Turkey how
she put this on his social media,

783
00:48:53,039 --> 00:48:55,519
it was a picture of him with
Jared Anderson saying this is what he wants

784
00:48:55,559 --> 00:49:00,199
to do. Obviously they're working with
Deontay Wilder for the fight that's upcoming.

785
00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:04,880
In the recent fight where he had
against Joseph Parker, I called up Shelley

786
00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:07,599
Finkel, who is Deontay Wilder's manager, and I said, is this like

787
00:49:08,159 --> 00:49:10,920
actually happening or is this something that
just Turkey says he'd like to do.

788
00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:15,280
And he says, we don't have
a deal done yet or anything like that,

789
00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:19,360
but we're focused on June first,
which is when that fight is between

790
00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:22,119
him and Jane. If Deontay wins
like I expect he will and he's not

791
00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:24,679
injured, we're probably gonna get that
fight done. So I asked him,

792
00:49:24,679 --> 00:49:27,440
well, how is that going to
work in terms of the timing, Because

793
00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:30,920
it's only like basically eight weeks between
the fights, it would be sort of

794
00:49:30,039 --> 00:49:32,320
like he's gonna come out of the
fight. If he's healthy and all is

795
00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:35,960
good and they make the match and
that's all good to go, he'll probably

796
00:49:36,039 --> 00:49:38,480
take like a couple two three weeks
off and he won't have to do a

797
00:49:38,519 --> 00:49:40,559
full eight week camp. He'll have
just fought, just been in through a

798
00:49:40,639 --> 00:49:43,920
camp, So maybe he only has
to do five six weeks. That should

799
00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:45,920
still be more than enough to prepare
for Jared and to still be in great

800
00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:50,840
shape, and they'll do the fight
and it will add just another very intriguing

801
00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:54,320
heavy fights hard that already has Jeral
Miller and Andy Ruiz as another heavyweight fight

802
00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:59,320
on the show. Don't bank on
this because it's a big if that Wilder

803
00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:02,440
looks like something other than the awful
Wilder that we saw against Joseph Parker.

804
00:50:02,519 --> 00:50:07,000
We don't know, and he's got
to beat. He knows his backs against

805
00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:08,280
the wall. It's do or die
basically in terms of his career. But

806
00:50:08,519 --> 00:50:13,199
is he toast? Does he have
anything left? That's part of the intrigue

807
00:50:13,199 --> 00:50:15,440
for June the first, we'll find
out. We're gonna find out for sure,

808
00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:19,000
and if he wins, then we'll
see what happens. All right,

809
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I know you are chomping at the
bit right now Pacific. Time to get

810
00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:25,320
done, but not before we talk
a little nostalgia to wrap the pod.

811
00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:30,920
On the preview pod, it was
now nine years ago Thursday May second,

812
00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:36,599
as we released the podcast into Friday, that Floyd Mayweather and Manny Paqui how

813
00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:40,920
finally fought the biggest money fight ever. You were there. It did not

814
00:50:42,159 --> 00:50:45,679
live up to anything we had hoped
for. So nine years later, you're

815
00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:49,480
back in Las Vegas. Now,
what do you reflect on with that?

816
00:50:49,679 --> 00:50:53,400
As uh Mayweather pacquiow finally did happen. I'm sitting in the same building that

817
00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:57,239
I was in that day nine years
ago, because I'm I'm in my hotel

818
00:50:57,280 --> 00:50:59,880
room at the MGM Grant, which
is where I stayed for that fight,

819
00:51:00,039 --> 00:51:01,039
where that fight took place. For
all I know, I'm in the same

820
00:51:01,159 --> 00:51:06,159
room. You know, they got
everything there may not be the exact same

821
00:51:06,239 --> 00:51:07,960
room. I understand, in like
five thousand rooms at one time, I

822
00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:10,480
think it was the biggest hotel in
the in the world. Anyway, Anyway,

823
00:51:12,239 --> 00:51:15,280
Mayweather Pacyao everything about the lead up
to the fight going. If you

824
00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:17,239
go back to the years that it
took to make it, that was an

825
00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:21,880
aged every day of the week because
of the nonsense of it wouldn't they wouldn't

826
00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:22,719
make it, And there was all
the arguing back and forth and all the

827
00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:27,239
failed negotiations and the attempts to try
to get it done, and then for

828
00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:30,559
a million reasons where blame was,
you know, on both sides at different

829
00:51:30,599 --> 00:51:34,039
times for it not happening, and
then you know, came together. You

830
00:51:34,079 --> 00:51:37,519
know, you can go and google
the stories about how they very famously accidentally

831
00:51:37,679 --> 00:51:40,320
met each other at a Miami Heat
basketball game. It led to a meeting

832
00:51:40,360 --> 00:51:44,239
in the hotel room and a decision
let's try to get this done, and

833
00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:47,000
a lot of efforts made on both
sides, and you had the now disgraced

834
00:51:47,039 --> 00:51:52,239
former chairman of CBS, Les moonvis
Uh basically getting together with Bob Ariman al

835
00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:55,199
Hayman and getting them to sit in
a room together that hadn't happened for many

836
00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:59,400
years and come up with a framework, and also get HBO and Showtime to

837
00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:04,320
get their shit together. There's a
lot of things that was a there's no

838
00:52:04,599 --> 00:52:07,719
deal in boxing that you could talk
to me about that would have more moving

839
00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:12,119
parts and be more complicated and have
more emotion on both sides in that one.

840
00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:14,840
The fact that it ever did get
done is still unfucking miracle to me.

841
00:52:15,079 --> 00:52:17,239
But that shows you when there's that
much money at stake, it finally

842
00:52:17,239 --> 00:52:21,639
gets done. Because the fight ended
up generating crazy six hundred and fifty million

843
00:52:21,639 --> 00:52:23,960
dollars, which is the most money
in the history of combat sports and many

844
00:52:24,039 --> 00:52:30,639
other events that are not combat sports
on one night, but the whole preparation

845
00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:31,960
for the fight in terms of the
build up when it got to like fight

846
00:52:32,039 --> 00:52:36,320
week, when I tell you,
teacher, I've covered hundreds and hundreds of

847
00:52:36,360 --> 00:52:40,320
events in my time. Doing this
was the single most miserable experience of my

848
00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:46,239
life. The top ranked people and
the Paqiao people were great to deal with.

849
00:52:46,480 --> 00:52:52,519
They were professional and everything was cool
like always. Everybody else, the

850
00:52:52,639 --> 00:52:57,760
PR teams, HBO, Showtime,
all the people involved with Mayweather, Mayweather

851
00:52:57,840 --> 00:53:02,239
Promotions, the how Hyman people,
PBC Teach, the whole nine absolute assholes.

852
00:53:02,599 --> 00:53:07,039
From the beginning of the event,
they treated the media so badly.

853
00:53:07,559 --> 00:53:10,920
They were such dicks about everything.
We didn't even know if we had seats

854
00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:15,400
in the arena until the morning of
the fight. They started kicking people out.

855
00:53:15,679 --> 00:53:19,480
My old colleague from ESPN, Michelle
Beadle, got kicked out because she

856
00:53:19,559 --> 00:53:24,079
had the audacity to ask Floyd about
his past u domestic violence issues and they

857
00:53:24,320 --> 00:53:28,679
in front of that. It was
it was a fucking shit show. I

858
00:53:28,800 --> 00:53:31,840
hated everything about that fight week,
and I've covered a million fight weeks in

859
00:53:31,920 --> 00:53:37,800
Las Vegas and everywhere. Uh,
the fight itself stucked, and then there

860
00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:40,519
was a lot of excuses after Warts
and Pacio about the shoulder, which,

861
00:53:40,599 --> 00:53:44,000
if you know, I understand he
didn't want to cancel the fight because he

862
00:53:44,039 --> 00:53:45,840
made like fucking one hundred and fifty
million dollars right exactly. There was a

863
00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:51,280
clearly injured shoulder that had to have
surgery after that fight. There were you

864
00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:52,400
know, and he knew if he
pulled out it was probably not going to

865
00:53:52,440 --> 00:53:57,400
get rescaled. We're there was class
action lawsuits because of that. Over the

866
00:53:57,440 --> 00:54:01,000
pay per view it was soup to
nuts. I mean, yes, we're

867
00:54:01,000 --> 00:54:05,239
discussing it on the nostalgia, but
I'm not nostalgic for it. If that

868
00:54:05,320 --> 00:54:08,960
makes me. I understand it happened, But you know, the end result

869
00:54:09,239 --> 00:54:14,920
is it's not a memorable classic.
And I'll say this though in the end

870
00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:19,199
people would ask me who was I
picking. I never would answer the question

871
00:54:19,320 --> 00:54:22,840
until the fight week. I tell
you, I see my hand to God.

872
00:54:22,360 --> 00:54:25,800
From the moment the fight was conceived
to the moment that the fight belf

873
00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:31,119
for round one, Ray, I
always always, always, always always felt,

874
00:54:31,159 --> 00:54:36,239
even though I was a huge manny
pack yell fan, I knew that

875
00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:38,920
Floyd Mayweather would whip his ass.
Now, had the fight been a few

876
00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:43,119
years earlier, it might have been
closer, but I still always thought that

877
00:54:43,159 --> 00:54:46,039
Floyd was gonna beat many because the
fight the fight was easily three years past

878
00:54:46,159 --> 00:54:50,159
when it should have happened. Pretty
much, it took five years from to

879
00:54:50,239 --> 00:54:52,000
finally make it once it became a
thing. Yes, so Floyd Mayweather,

880
00:54:52,199 --> 00:54:55,599
putting all the bullshit aside about the
fight week and just the nature of how

881
00:54:55,639 --> 00:55:00,119
the fight went. In the end, you can't criticize Floyd because Floyd did

882
00:55:00,239 --> 00:55:02,360
what he was supposed to do.
He went in there and he boxed,

883
00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:07,440
and he did what he does best, and he basically ran many paccio out

884
00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:10,400
of the ring and won like nine
to three, probably thereabouts, maybe eight

885
00:55:10,400 --> 00:55:14,320
to four if your generous could have
been ten too. But he dominated and

886
00:55:14,440 --> 00:55:19,159
won easily and stamped himself. And
this is not insignificant. Not only was

887
00:55:19,239 --> 00:55:22,400
that to unify the Welterway tunnels and
all the money that was involved, it

888
00:55:22,599 --> 00:55:27,559
was to determine for history who was
the best fighter of the era. In

889
00:55:27,639 --> 00:55:30,519
the end, it was Foy Mayweather. Doesn't mean he was the most beloved,

890
00:55:30,119 --> 00:55:34,159
doesn't mean it wasn't he was the
most exciting, but he was the

891
00:55:34,199 --> 00:55:37,280
best fighter of the era based on
that win compared to because they fought off

892
00:55:37,320 --> 00:55:42,199
so many common opponents also correct,
and so I don't want to accept that

893
00:55:42,320 --> 00:55:45,519
was almost a decade ago. It
was nine years ago, man, I'm

894
00:55:45,559 --> 00:55:47,280
here'll be talking about it on the
ten then. Now we have given you

895
00:55:47,360 --> 00:55:52,199
a bunch. The Canelo build up
continues, Dan is there in Vegas.

896
00:55:52,800 --> 00:55:54,920
Who knows what else is gonna happen
As Thursday night becomes Friday and you're hearing

897
00:55:54,960 --> 00:55:59,360
the podcast on Friday, I know
this. We'll do a live bet Us

898
00:55:59,519 --> 00:56:04,039
boxing show coming at one Eastern time
ten am Pacific time on Friday. Find

899
00:56:04,119 --> 00:56:07,599
that whatever happens with the Canelo Mongia
main event and the rest of the card,

900
00:56:07,639 --> 00:56:12,639
we'll recap it on our Fight fre
Each United recap and again the Monster

901
00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:15,559
Naoja in away Luis nare is Monday
morning as well. So it's going to

902
00:56:15,599 --> 00:56:21,280
be a busy, busy weekend,
my friend, go enjoy Vegas. Hopefully

903
00:56:21,320 --> 00:56:24,760
your phone's not blowing up with anything
else to break Thursday into Friday, and

904
00:56:24,880 --> 00:56:29,000
I look forward to seeing you at
handicapping some fights this weekend on the bet

905
00:56:29,159 --> 00:56:34,199
Us show coming up, Dan,
Raphael, that sounds good. I look

906
00:56:34,280 --> 00:56:37,440
forward to having you with me.
We thank you for finding us however you've

907
00:56:37,480 --> 00:56:39,679
done so. On the Big Fight
Weekend podcast feed for Dan Rayfield on TJ

908
00:56:39,880 --> 00:56:45,360
Reeves enjoy Panelo Mungia and the whole
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909
00:56:45,400 --> 00:56:49,639
Boxing Champions. For now, we're
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