WEBVTT 1 00:00:30.719 --> 00:00:39.079 Welcome to Destiny. Now here's your host, Cliff Dunning. One of the 2 00:00:39.119 --> 00:00:43.640 shapes that he said, it was commonly reported, is a jellyfish shape. 3 00:00:43.759 --> 00:00:46.399 We were told that and think of wow, that would be great footage to 4 00:00:46.439 --> 00:00:50.479 have, and then something came our way. We thought it might be a 5 00:00:50.479 --> 00:00:53.560 balloon. It's moving kind of like a balloon. So again, you know, 6 00:00:53.640 --> 00:00:58.159 two separate incidents we're talking when we're talking about submerge or trans medium the 7 00:00:58.359 --> 00:01:00.960 ability to go from space to air to see without any inertial effect. The 8 00:01:00.960 --> 00:01:06.760 one that went into the water for seventeen minutes and then came out again was 9 00:01:06.959 --> 00:01:10.480 what we're calling the jellybishu EPO. That's why we kind of named it that. 10 00:01:10.840 --> 00:01:14.560 So that was that first video you're seeing that looks so bizarre, I 11 00:01:14.599 --> 00:01:19.680 mean, something out of Star Wars, right. That's Jeremy Corbel reporting on 12 00:01:21.120 --> 00:01:27.359 National news about a UAP that has been now revealed to the public through his 13 00:01:27.480 --> 00:01:34.920 website that was filmed in twenty seventeen in Iraq. Hey, welcome to Destiny. 14 00:01:34.000 --> 00:01:38.040 This is a cliff, your host. And what makes this image so 15 00:01:38.200 --> 00:01:44.439 fascinating is it because it's flying very low. It looks like a single manned 16 00:01:44.879 --> 00:01:51.799 object, possibly of drone of some kind, and it is fascinating for a 17 00:01:51.920 --> 00:01:57.280 number of reasons. Most notably it changes its heat signature as well as its 18 00:01:57.439 --> 00:02:07.159 ability to come flage. And the object intruded into a military base and was 19 00:02:07.239 --> 00:02:10.120 automatically picked up by the censors looking to see if it was a missile or 20 00:02:10.120 --> 00:02:15.599 something, and it was not. But it's definitely a UAP and it is 21 00:02:15.680 --> 00:02:21.000 being revealed on a large scale. I have the video of it on my 22 00:02:21.039 --> 00:02:23.439 Facebook page. You go to Earth Ancient, Go to Facebook, go to 23 00:02:23.439 --> 00:02:30.039 Earth Ancients, you'll see it on both pages. Look under Destiny podcast notes 24 00:02:30.120 --> 00:02:32.439 you'll see it. It's about two and a half minutes long. This is 25 00:02:32.479 --> 00:02:39.800 one of the most incredible UAPs I've ever seen. Today we're talking about UFOs 26 00:02:39.840 --> 00:02:45.479 and UAPs. My guest is Constance Victoria Briggs, who is presenting a new 27 00:02:45.560 --> 00:02:51.680 book called Earth's Galactic History. And you know, I occasionally will have somebody 28 00:02:51.680 --> 00:02:55.919 on the program who is giving us up to date information on just what is 29 00:02:57.039 --> 00:03:00.120 happening. And then the last I would say twenty four months, there have 30 00:03:00.479 --> 00:03:09.639 been almost a revival of UFO UAP alien interaction data presented to the public. 31 00:03:12.039 --> 00:03:23.319 As always there's the fakers. The CGI implemented documents and imagery of fake UFO's 32 00:03:23.360 --> 00:03:30.840 fake ups. But this material comes directly from the military. Jeremy Corbel claims 33 00:03:30.879 --> 00:03:37.039 to have connection with many people. He was actually part of a team that 34 00:03:37.199 --> 00:03:46.080 spoke in front of the Congress last year to unveil more citings, more evidence, 35 00:03:46.240 --> 00:03:51.240 and to request that the government began releasing more of this information to the 36 00:03:51.280 --> 00:03:57.759 government. Now, we don't know how much the government knows, but when 37 00:03:57.800 --> 00:04:03.199 these intelligence officers re tire, they and this is recent, doesn't seem like 38 00:04:03.240 --> 00:04:10.680 they're holding true to their NDA's non disclosure agreements to allow this material to be 39 00:04:11.000 --> 00:04:16.279 squelched. They're just spilling it. And we're beginning to see quite a bit 40 00:04:16.399 --> 00:04:24.120 of data coming from the military simply because these off world types are curious as 41 00:04:24.160 --> 00:04:30.279 to what form of military operations are taking place. If this is a precursor 42 00:04:30.319 --> 00:04:36.399 to war. We know that the off world types are very much intrigued by 43 00:04:36.480 --> 00:04:43.920 our ability to fight and to be aggressive and to spend billions, if not 44 00:04:44.079 --> 00:04:53.879 trillions of dollars on very sophisticated weaponry, aircraft scanning, and other technologies for 45 00:04:54.040 --> 00:05:00.199 war. And you know, I mean right now, it looks like we're 46 00:05:00.360 --> 00:05:04.360 on the cusp of World War three. Just came out the other day that 47 00:05:04.399 --> 00:05:14.279 the Germans were preparing for Russia to invade NATO countries and they're preparing to fight 48 00:05:14.319 --> 00:05:18.759 against that. We know about the Russians and the Ukrainian War. Israel is 49 00:05:18.800 --> 00:05:29.000 fighting in Giza, the Chinese are threatening other countries and facing off in different 50 00:05:29.480 --> 00:05:36.160 naval conflicts in the Pacific Ocean. So you know, by all measurements, 51 00:05:36.720 --> 00:05:44.680 all world types are concerned and this could be something that is forcing them to 52 00:05:45.199 --> 00:05:49.920 expose themselves more with these types of drones known as the jellyfish that we see 53 00:05:49.959 --> 00:05:57.279 in Iraq, and you know, I find it fascinating that this is being 54 00:05:57.879 --> 00:06:05.519 disclosed to the government. This jellyfish UAP is very sophisticated in its design in 55 00:06:06.000 --> 00:06:10.839 what are these feelers about? Does it pick up things and analyze them? 56 00:06:11.519 --> 00:06:15.879 I don't think this object has a being in it. I think it's a 57 00:06:16.160 --> 00:06:21.160 remote control. I think it's a drone. So is this a probe from 58 00:06:21.199 --> 00:06:27.079 another world? You know, we've had av lobon Earth Agents a couple of 59 00:06:27.079 --> 00:06:34.399 different times talking about what he believes are alien probes sent from perhaps long dead 60 00:06:34.920 --> 00:06:46.120 civilizations or perhaps still functioning civilizations from other dimensions, other planetary systems that are 61 00:06:46.560 --> 00:06:53.439 far away, that are out seeking intelligent life, and hear from him again 62 00:06:53.560 --> 00:06:58.199 later in the year to get an update on what they discovered in the Pacific 63 00:06:58.240 --> 00:07:04.000 Ocean. They were still analyzing when we had abon last November, and we 64 00:07:04.079 --> 00:07:09.439 don't know what's going on. But my guest today, Constance Briggs, has 65 00:07:09.560 --> 00:07:15.439 been looking at this question for many, many years and has written a number 66 00:07:15.480 --> 00:07:21.879 of books on the Moon, on unseen worlds which are ets, and in 67 00:07:21.959 --> 00:07:28.120 today's program we're going to get a sense of just what she's collected in this 68 00:07:28.519 --> 00:07:38.439 month, this large book on Earth's et connections that goes back to before written 69 00:07:38.519 --> 00:07:45.279 history, some of the contacts that other civilizations have had with ets, and 70 00:07:46.160 --> 00:07:51.480 right up to the beginning, right up to today's sightings, analysis and more 71 00:07:51.519 --> 00:07:55.279 and more and more. So it's going to be kind of a fun chat 72 00:07:55.319 --> 00:08:01.079 with her for our program today. So again the program is Earth's galactic history 73 00:08:01.160 --> 00:08:20.639 and its et connection and my guest is Constance Victoria Briggs. 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The Earth Ancients Grand Egyptian Tour, April twenty eighth 91 00:09:54.919 --> 00:10:33.960 through May ninth. It's been a while since we've talked about u f o's 92 00:10:33.080 --> 00:10:37.679 u AP's alien interactions, and we got a good one today. We have 93 00:10:37.759 --> 00:10:43.919 the return of Constance Victoria Briggs. We've had her on the program before. 94 00:10:43.080 --> 00:10:48.679 She is the author of the Moon's Galactic History and her fabulous books. She's 95 00:10:48.720 --> 00:10:54.759 got one called The Encyclopedia of Moon Mysteries, and then The Encyclopedia of the 96 00:10:54.840 --> 00:11:00.279 Unseen World and some other books. She's getting close to a prolific writing. 97 00:11:00.360 --> 00:11:03.799 Seems like every time I talked to Constance, she's got something new coming up, 98 00:11:03.240 --> 00:11:07.120 which is fun. I don't know where she has the time, because 99 00:11:07.399 --> 00:11:13.639 I know she's active. But this new book we're talking about is Earth's s 100 00:11:13.679 --> 00:11:20.159 Galactic History and its Extraterrestrial Connection, and I had a chance to look at 101 00:11:20.200 --> 00:11:26.720 it. It is literally another she should put in fine print Encyclopedia because she's 102 00:11:26.840 --> 00:11:33.200 actually gone through and touched upon a number of fascinating topics related to UFOs, 103 00:11:33.279 --> 00:11:41.720 UAPs and the extraterrestrial experience that is constantly in the news around the world. 104 00:11:41.799 --> 00:11:45.240 So we're gonna hear all about it today in our interview. So, hey, 105 00:11:45.279 --> 00:11:48.159 Constance, great to see you again. How you been good? Good 106 00:11:48.200 --> 00:11:52.399 Cliff, thank you, thanks for having me back. All right, first 107 00:11:52.480 --> 00:11:58.080 question, this thing is huge, in over three hundred pages, or at 108 00:11:58.200 --> 00:12:01.519 least close to three hundred pages. You had been talking to me about this 109 00:12:01.679 --> 00:12:07.679 and wanting to delve in. What was the inspiration for this because this is 110 00:12:07.720 --> 00:12:16.759 not one subject, you are basically defining a whole industry. Yeah, yeah, 111 00:12:16.279 --> 00:12:20.120 you know, it was very interesting. My publisher had asked me to 112 00:12:20.159 --> 00:12:24.799 make it a big book, and I and I and they're saying it's big, 113 00:12:24.840 --> 00:12:26.519 and I still couldn't fit it all in, so I'm writing another one. 114 00:12:28.000 --> 00:12:35.639 But yeah, so you know, I have people coming to me with 115 00:12:35.879 --> 00:12:43.480 questions all the time about the moon because of the books I wrote extraterrestrials in 116 00:12:43.639 --> 00:12:48.720 UFOs. And these are people not like you and I and in your audience 117 00:12:48.360 --> 00:12:54.399 so much as who have you know some knowledge of the subjects, these are 118 00:12:54.879 --> 00:13:01.279 are newbies, all right. So I wanted I wanted something to introduce people 119 00:13:01.879 --> 00:13:09.440 to the various topics about the Earth and extraterrestrials and how extraterrestrials are touching our 120 00:13:09.440 --> 00:13:11.080 Earth, affect our Earth and how how long they've been with us. So 121 00:13:11.120 --> 00:13:16.080 I wanted something that would take them back to the beginning and sort of touch 122 00:13:16.559 --> 00:13:24.840 on all the areas that extraterrestrials have touched upon. That was the idea behind 123 00:13:24.879 --> 00:13:30.120 this book. I also I also feel like, you know, those of 124 00:13:30.200 --> 00:13:35.759 us that have information and have a responsibility to spread a message because I believe 125 00:13:35.799 --> 00:13:43.000 there's something happening in this world today that is preparing us for a future with 126 00:13:43.120 --> 00:13:50.480 extraterrestrials openly in our lives and for humanity and moving into what I perceive as 127 00:13:50.559 --> 00:13:54.639 a galactic human galactic community out there. So you know, I wanted people 128 00:13:54.679 --> 00:13:58.600 to know about the information and start somewhere, but I'd like to get that 129 00:13:58.639 --> 00:14:03.240 message out that we need to be moving forward in this information and knowledge. 130 00:14:03.519 --> 00:14:07.720 Yeah, I like that. I would say that your book is a good 131 00:14:07.799 --> 00:14:13.399 primer to anyone who wants to know about UAPs formerly UFOs, the various races 132 00:14:13.399 --> 00:14:20.559 of extraterrestrials who are visiting us and have been visiting us, and so much 133 00:14:20.639 --> 00:14:24.240 more that you present in here. Let me ask you, have you had 134 00:14:24.320 --> 00:14:26.399 any experience have you seen a UFO? I mean, you're down in Los 135 00:14:26.480 --> 00:14:31.360 Angeles. Still right, I'm in San Diego. Yeah, and so there's 136 00:14:31.960 --> 00:14:37.000 We've had a NASA astronomer who's in your area actually see what he thought was 137 00:14:39.120 --> 00:14:43.519 a wormhole open and then the UFO passing. Have you seen anything yourself? 138 00:14:43.600 --> 00:14:48.440 Have you experienced anything, Not that that matters or not, but I'm just 139 00:14:48.559 --> 00:14:54.480 curious because you're you have a deep passion for this. So uh, San 140 00:14:54.480 --> 00:15:00.080 Diego apparently is very famous for UFOs. I haven't seen anything. I'm not 141 00:15:00.159 --> 00:15:05.440 out there at night. I keep thinking, the ocean is like seven minutes 142 00:15:05.440 --> 00:15:07.799 from my house, and I'm thinking I should just drive down there. And 143 00:15:07.919 --> 00:15:11.279 because it's all black and just wait, right, that's a little probably. 144 00:15:11.440 --> 00:15:13.919 I saw something weird the other day of the sky and I asked my husband, 145 00:15:13.960 --> 00:15:16.600 did you see that? He was flying his drone and there was something 146 00:15:16.600 --> 00:15:20.360 out there with white and it just you know, it was it just disappeared. 147 00:15:20.480 --> 00:15:22.639 He's like, I didn't see anything. I'm like, what was that? 148 00:15:22.799 --> 00:15:24.399 It wasn't the airplanes. I don't know if that was a ship or 149 00:15:24.440 --> 00:15:30.240 not. But so here in southern California, I have not seen anything. 150 00:15:30.320 --> 00:15:35.519 The two experiences that I have had was once when I was a child, 151 00:15:35.240 --> 00:15:39.679 I was nine years old and I was living in I'm from Alexandria, Virginia. 152 00:15:41.200 --> 00:15:45.639 Oh you never told me that. Wow, you know the area. 153 00:15:46.120 --> 00:15:50.399 I have friends in Virginia. I had an ex Beyonce. Parents lived in 154 00:15:52.200 --> 00:15:56.159 close to one of the big battle fills there. I can't is it Charles 155 00:15:56.200 --> 00:15:58.879 not Charles as in North Carolina or South Carolina anyhow? Yeah, I know, 156 00:16:00.200 --> 00:16:02.200 I know, I've driven through and I've stayed there a little bit. 157 00:16:02.240 --> 00:16:06.360 I liked that area. Oh yeah, yeah, so I uh, before 158 00:16:06.399 --> 00:16:10.919 I moved out here, I was living in Oldtown, Alexandria anyway. So 159 00:16:11.440 --> 00:16:14.799 I was writing one evening with my mom in the car, and my mom 160 00:16:14.879 --> 00:16:18.320 was a very nervous driver and she never wanted us to talk and say anything 161 00:16:18.320 --> 00:16:19.519 where she was going. And we were driving at night, and oh, 162 00:16:19.559 --> 00:16:25.960 to my right, I saw something in the sky which was a UFO, 163 00:16:26.080 --> 00:16:27.919 But I did not know exactly at the time what I was looking at. 164 00:16:29.000 --> 00:16:32.639 And I remember thinking to myself, you know, I wonder if that's one 165 00:16:32.639 --> 00:16:36.200 of those things and we're just you know, going by, and it's just 166 00:16:36.279 --> 00:16:40.159 hovering and their lights, you know, it was disc shaped, and are 167 00:16:40.200 --> 00:16:42.879 there are lights different colored life spinning around? But I didn't take it seriously. 168 00:16:42.919 --> 00:16:48.679 I was too young, and I, you know, I just let 169 00:16:48.759 --> 00:16:49.919 it go and I didn't say anything to my mother, who didn't want me 170 00:16:49.960 --> 00:16:53.440 to talk anyway. So years and years later, as I went and dealt 171 00:16:53.440 --> 00:16:59.360 into this research, I was reading about a lady's experience who had seen a 172 00:16:59.519 --> 00:17:04.200 UFO hovering and she had said, you know, I didn't know what it 173 00:17:04.359 --> 00:17:07.960 was exactly, and I was thinking, well, airplanes don't hover, and 174 00:17:07.960 --> 00:17:14.160 then I thought, oh oh, because this thing that I saw was hovering 175 00:17:14.200 --> 00:17:18.640 too. Yeah, and so, and then I went on some research. 176 00:17:18.680 --> 00:17:21.839 I'm like, it wasn't a blimp, it wasn't an airplane, it wasn't 177 00:17:21.839 --> 00:17:25.240 a helicopter. I knew that. So, yeah, I saw one when 178 00:17:25.279 --> 00:17:30.359 I was a kid. I've also seen one in the Astro out of body 179 00:17:30.400 --> 00:17:34.440 experience, which was really interesting. So I have out of body experiences where 180 00:17:34.599 --> 00:17:38.000 you know, I travel and I see things and I kind of slip out 181 00:17:38.000 --> 00:17:41.359 of my body. I don't try to do it, I just come out. 182 00:17:41.519 --> 00:17:47.640 And this particular day, I was taking a nap, which is I 183 00:17:47.640 --> 00:17:51.319 had a toddler who was taking naps, So I took a nap nap and 184 00:17:51.759 --> 00:17:59.519 I left my body and I was going to this ship, the most beautiful 185 00:17:59.519 --> 00:18:02.920 ship you can imagine, nothing like what we see in pictures. It was 186 00:18:02.960 --> 00:18:08.200 glorious and I was about to enter it through the wall and I knew I 187 00:18:08.240 --> 00:18:11.640 was I was awake, and I knew what was happening, and I just 188 00:18:11.680 --> 00:18:14.880 thought, darn it. I hope the phone doesn't ring. I hope nothing. 189 00:18:15.279 --> 00:18:18.480 Yeah, I hope my phone doesn't call me, because when that happens, 190 00:18:18.519 --> 00:18:21.119 if you've had out of body experience, here kind of pulled back in, 191 00:18:21.200 --> 00:18:23.359 right, So sure enough, the phone rang, and I was pulled 192 00:18:23.400 --> 00:18:27.920 back in and I thought, you know, doing this research today, that 193 00:18:29.119 --> 00:18:33.720 tells me that there are ethereal ships out there that we can't see in the 194 00:18:33.720 --> 00:18:37.640 physical right. You know, that's very interesting they are. They could be 195 00:18:37.680 --> 00:18:44.440 all around us and we don't see them. Yeah, and that's something that 196 00:18:44.839 --> 00:18:52.559 isn't really well known, as these various dimensions that pass through other planetary systems 197 00:18:52.559 --> 00:18:56.680 and other dimensions, and then they pass into our dimension. They blink out, 198 00:18:56.920 --> 00:19:03.079 blink in and blank blank out, and it's it's so amazing that it 199 00:19:03.160 --> 00:19:07.519 only can be explained through quantum physics. And even there, there's just a 200 00:19:07.559 --> 00:19:14.200 handful of people able to describe what's going on. But let's get into this 201 00:19:14.240 --> 00:19:18.400 wonderful book. I want to just mention that you break it down, it's 202 00:19:18.680 --> 00:19:22.200 I think it's eleven chapters or more. And you have things like human origins, 203 00:19:22.920 --> 00:19:29.160 extraterrestrials in the past, UFOs uapiece in the ocean, which we're going 204 00:19:29.240 --> 00:19:36.759 to talk about because that's fascinating, stargates, ET's among us, and things 205 00:19:36.799 --> 00:19:41.000 like the Battle for the Earth, which gets into things that we have talked 206 00:19:41.000 --> 00:19:44.200 about here on Earth, Ancients, the Maha Barata, the Indian War, 207 00:19:44.640 --> 00:19:48.640 which was the Battle for Earth. But let's talk about chapter one, which 208 00:19:48.680 --> 00:19:52.960 is fascinating to me, which is planetary seating. Yeah, talk a little 209 00:19:52.960 --> 00:19:59.240 bit about that. And because you get into some specifics, we've had Chandra 210 00:19:59.480 --> 00:20:04.359 with Raham z on the program, who is the proponent of panspermia, which 211 00:20:04.400 --> 00:20:15.400 is intelligent design. What is important about considering Earth as a spawning ground for 212 00:20:15.599 --> 00:20:22.440 intelligent life? What is important for considering it? Yeah, why would we 213 00:20:22.480 --> 00:20:30.319 want to consider that as a as Earth being seated? Well, you know, 214 00:20:30.440 --> 00:20:36.440 first of all, our scientists really have no idea how life started on 215 00:20:36.480 --> 00:20:40.160 Earth, all right, So we all grew up thinking that, you know, 216 00:20:41.119 --> 00:20:48.359 either you looked at the creation hypothesis or you looked at the evolutionary hypothesis. 217 00:20:48.960 --> 00:20:56.119 And for me, I've been through the creation and theory in the Bible 218 00:20:56.160 --> 00:20:59.720 and it just didn't work for me, all right. I think that there 219 00:20:59.839 --> 00:21:03.880 was so much more to the story, and evolution doesn't work for me because 220 00:21:03.920 --> 00:21:07.640 I don't believe that all of these amazing life forms crawled out of some sort 221 00:21:07.640 --> 00:21:11.119 of you know, I was going to ask you, I didn't. I 222 00:21:11.119 --> 00:21:15.200 don't mean to interrupt you. But Darwin is the big proponent that everyone follows, 223 00:21:15.200 --> 00:21:18.839 and Darwin falls apart on a lot of different things. Yeah, I 224 00:21:18.880 --> 00:21:22.160 think he hasn't been discounted. He's discounted these days, you know, by 225 00:21:22.400 --> 00:21:26.599 by some scientists, so they don't know. So I feel like if we 226 00:21:26.759 --> 00:21:32.640 want answers, we have to start thinking out of the box and looking at 227 00:21:32.680 --> 00:21:37.880 other theories, just to keep that going so we can one day figure it 228 00:21:37.920 --> 00:21:40.519 out. Because we need to evolve, we need in our thinking, we 229 00:21:40.599 --> 00:21:45.519 need to move forward as a global community. We need to get some answers. 230 00:21:45.640 --> 00:21:48.400 So I proposed that we look at some of these theories, and the 231 00:21:48.720 --> 00:21:55.480 pants Permier one is very interesting because if you think about it. When it 232 00:21:55.480 --> 00:22:03.039 comes to extraterrestrials, there could be extraterrestrials existing that are are a millennia ahead 233 00:22:03.079 --> 00:22:07.119 of us. You know, they can be hundreds, two thousands to millions 234 00:22:07.160 --> 00:22:11.880 of years older than us. We're very we're very young as a as a 235 00:22:11.880 --> 00:22:17.200 global as a species, as a global community. We are young. And 236 00:22:17.319 --> 00:22:21.279 people don't stop and think that, No, humanity is not the most important 237 00:22:21.319 --> 00:22:25.960 species or in the in the universe, Earth is not the most important. 238 00:22:25.960 --> 00:22:27.839 There could be others out there. They don't want to stop and think about 239 00:22:27.839 --> 00:22:33.160 it. So if there are others out there and they're there, they have 240 00:22:33.240 --> 00:22:38.319 the science and technology that would be far ahead of us. And what's interesting 241 00:22:38.559 --> 00:22:44.720 is when we're talking about the seeding of a planet, this is not something 242 00:22:44.759 --> 00:22:48.880 we ourselves are not considering for the future. If you go on NASA website, 243 00:22:48.920 --> 00:22:53.480 they talk about, you know, going into space and you know, 244 00:22:53.599 --> 00:22:57.920 one day seeding planets and having wormholes and all this stuff they're talking about. 245 00:22:59.079 --> 00:23:00.920 Will someone else has be us to it? Not just someone else, but 246 00:23:02.000 --> 00:23:07.119 perhaps many races of beings have beat us to it. So somewhere, you 247 00:23:07.160 --> 00:23:12.599 know, I propose someone somewhere saw this planet and I don't know, you 248 00:23:12.640 --> 00:23:18.880 know, what was going on with the planet, but they decided perhaps to 249 00:23:18.920 --> 00:23:21.839 bring life in here. If you look at the life forms, I mean, 250 00:23:21.839 --> 00:23:23.640 it just doesn't make sense if they're all crawled out of the ocean. 251 00:23:23.720 --> 00:23:27.079 And I'll say that to my my husband and my son. Yeah, do 252 00:23:27.640 --> 00:23:32.200 you see that spider or whatever? You think it crawled out of the ocean 253 00:23:32.279 --> 00:23:36.440 like the elephant. So you know, we have we have men just looking 254 00:23:36.440 --> 00:23:41.079 at me like come on. But I do think that life could have been 255 00:23:41.279 --> 00:23:48.000 brought here and or seated here. Now putting the infect world in the animal 256 00:23:48.039 --> 00:23:53.079 world aside, I think that there is a possibility that someone could have been 257 00:23:53.079 --> 00:23:59.599 shooting to start intelligent life here. With that, the panspermia ideas you know, 258 00:23:59.680 --> 00:24:03.240 fast makes me because they may have been looking to create intelligent life and 259 00:24:03.319 --> 00:24:06.799 just to see where it landed. They could have been planting it around the 260 00:24:06.839 --> 00:24:10.599 galaxy or and in our solar system to see where it landed. That's just 261 00:24:10.640 --> 00:24:17.000 a theory. But then there's direct panspermia where it was specifically directed towards Earth, 262 00:24:17.200 --> 00:24:22.359 right, and they created life. Now you know, it gets complicated 263 00:24:22.359 --> 00:24:29.319 because was it human lives and other life or was it you know, the 264 00:24:29.359 --> 00:24:33.920 animal kingdom and some primates, and then we had extraterrestrials who came in and 265 00:24:33.960 --> 00:24:37.960 tempered with that DNA and commute created humanity. Because then we get into the 266 00:24:38.000 --> 00:24:44.359 whole Samerian background in the Onanaki and you know their story on how they think 267 00:24:44.400 --> 00:24:48.440 humans came to be, that they put their alien DNA with primates. But 268 00:24:48.759 --> 00:24:52.039 for the beginning, yeah, you actually get into specifics with the Dogon people 269 00:24:52.079 --> 00:25:00.480 of the Africa and their connections with an et race who basically educated them about 270 00:25:00.519 --> 00:25:04.160 how Earth came about and how the seeding happened. So these are not simple 271 00:25:06.039 --> 00:25:08.640 guess work. This is a lot of there's a lot of history that we 272 00:25:08.720 --> 00:25:11.960 don't take into account. You know, I want to ask you, and 273 00:25:11.000 --> 00:25:15.039 then we're going to jump into this book even more. Why is NASA so 274 00:25:15.160 --> 00:25:22.880 resistant to opening to contact with ets? We know that they know the astronauts 275 00:25:22.880 --> 00:25:29.279 have seen them on the Apollo missions, even as early back as Mercury Shepherd 276 00:25:29.599 --> 00:25:36.319 orbiting the Earth was seeing UFOs shadowing the craft. I mean, it's so 277 00:25:36.759 --> 00:25:38.960 likely that they know a great deal, but they're just so why are they 278 00:25:40.039 --> 00:25:44.279 so resistant? Do you think? I think the answer is really simple I 279 00:25:44.319 --> 00:25:47.759 think they've been told not to talk because they're worried about panicking people. Two 280 00:25:47.839 --> 00:25:51.599 things. They're worried about panicking people, and that goes all the way back 281 00:25:51.599 --> 00:25:56.240 to their Pollo missions, where the Brokens report basically stated exactly, NASA, 282 00:25:57.039 --> 00:26:02.160 you ask them, what should we do if if the astronauts find life out 283 00:26:02.160 --> 00:26:04.799 there? They knew life was out there before they sent them, all right, 284 00:26:06.079 --> 00:26:07.400 they knew there was all kinds of stuff happening on the Moon. They 285 00:26:07.440 --> 00:26:12.319 have a lunar report that has gone declassified that they had a whole list of 286 00:26:12.359 --> 00:26:15.559 things they were looking at, so they knew. So they asked, what 287 00:26:15.559 --> 00:26:18.119 should we do if this happens, and they said, don't tell. It's 288 00:26:18.160 --> 00:26:23.440 going to disrupt the economy. People will go into a panic. Don't tell, 289 00:26:23.519 --> 00:26:27.519 and no one ever I think took that rule out. I think that's 290 00:26:27.519 --> 00:26:30.200 why they did. They don't want a panic. I think maybe they've been 291 00:26:30.200 --> 00:26:36.839 told also continually to not tell because maybe there are some secrets out there. 292 00:26:37.400 --> 00:26:41.920 You know, we hear all the time about reverse technology on ships that have 293 00:26:42.440 --> 00:26:45.319 crashed and all of this. You know, they don't want the rest of 294 00:26:45.359 --> 00:26:48.079 the world to know if that's a thing, because they could be using that 295 00:26:48.160 --> 00:26:53.000 for defense. That's one theory I have. But basically, I would say 296 00:26:53.200 --> 00:26:57.880 they were told in the sixties not to talk. That was nine sixties Rookies. 297 00:26:57.960 --> 00:27:00.680 Yeah, the Brookies is to to document, but that was in nineteen 298 00:27:00.799 --> 00:27:07.279 sixty overund sixty years ago. And you know, I think Eisenhower was right 299 00:27:07.519 --> 00:27:14.920 that America's turned into a military industrial complex. Well, all we are thinking 300 00:27:14.960 --> 00:27:22.119 about doing is preparing for war and shoot first attitude. It just doesn't make 301 00:27:22.160 --> 00:27:26.759 sense to me. And perhaps, and I'm really curious about your feeling about 302 00:27:26.839 --> 00:27:30.720 after writing this book, is that what we're dealing with is that we are 303 00:27:30.920 --> 00:27:44.000 so military focused that we can't give up knowledge about et contact or ships that 304 00:27:44.119 --> 00:27:52.920 may be landing with positive focused ets. I think so, I think that 305 00:27:52.920 --> 00:27:55.960 that's the big secret. I think they do know something. I think that 306 00:27:56.000 --> 00:27:59.680 they do have information and they don't want to share that with the rest of 307 00:27:59.680 --> 00:28:03.960 the world because that would, you know, be a sharing of military knowledge. 308 00:28:03.279 --> 00:28:07.359 And that's a theory. That's a theory. But yeah, they were 309 00:28:07.400 --> 00:28:12.119 definitely total It would panic people. And I know that going into NASA today 310 00:28:12.119 --> 00:28:18.480 you still have to sign what are they called non disclosure exactly. They still 311 00:28:18.519 --> 00:28:22.400 do that. Now. You know what's interesting is we have pictures from NASA, 312 00:28:22.960 --> 00:28:26.319 you know of UFOs. We have pictures of structures on the Moon. 313 00:28:26.359 --> 00:28:30.759 We have information of stuff on Mars. There's a monolith on one of the 314 00:28:32.319 --> 00:28:34.920 Mars's moons that hasn't been covered up. I mean, some of the stuff 315 00:28:34.960 --> 00:28:41.880 gets out. We have pictures of the space station where UFOs are flying from 316 00:28:41.160 --> 00:28:45.720 around it. Stuff gets out, but they don't seem to worry about it, 317 00:28:45.839 --> 00:28:48.319 or there's nothing they can do about it, so they just don't comment. 318 00:28:48.640 --> 00:28:51.920 If you send them a letter about it, they're not going to respond. 319 00:28:52.440 --> 00:28:56.279 They're just quiet. Even though all of this information really is circulating, 320 00:28:56.480 --> 00:29:02.519 and there has been by the way, Cliff, there is declassified information on 321 00:29:03.880 --> 00:29:10.440 the CIA website of you can go on and see where they're talking about signals 322 00:29:10.480 --> 00:29:15.920 from out of space that they've received and ship scene and things like this. 323 00:29:15.000 --> 00:29:19.240 So everything is in hush hush, but people don't know about that unless you 324 00:29:19.279 --> 00:29:22.599 put it in a book like I did. You go in my book and 325 00:29:22.839 --> 00:29:25.839 look at the stuff up. But if you classify, what can they say? 326 00:29:25.839 --> 00:29:27.920 What can they do? And I'm sure there's some that are not happy 327 00:29:29.079 --> 00:29:32.039 that the information is out there but yeah, they're not going to say. 328 00:29:32.079 --> 00:29:36.799 And I'll tell you what else. I think. I think that the extraterrestrials 329 00:29:37.119 --> 00:29:42.119 themselves don't. I think they have an agenda, They have a time frame 330 00:29:42.519 --> 00:29:47.640 when they're going to be ready for us to know. Because there was a 331 00:29:47.680 --> 00:29:52.920 man I don't remember his name. I think it with Hammin, I can't 332 00:29:52.920 --> 00:29:56.400 save name. The last name was e H. S. E D. 333 00:29:56.599 --> 00:30:00.400 I believe he was a general Israeli general who wrote a bit book about a 334 00:30:00.440 --> 00:30:04.480 couple of years ago, and he said he had nothing to nothing to lose 335 00:30:04.839 --> 00:30:14.079 by revealing this information that we have people on Mars working with extraterrestrials, there's 336 00:30:14.119 --> 00:30:21.759 a galactic federation, and that if the extraterrestrials said not to tell, even 337 00:30:21.759 --> 00:30:26.039 though he was telling, said not to tell, because humanity wasn't ready to 338 00:30:26.200 --> 00:30:32.440 know, all right? So could it be that it's not just our government? 339 00:30:32.519 --> 00:30:37.079 Could it be that it could be the extraterrestrials themselves that are kind of 340 00:30:37.160 --> 00:30:41.160 keeping things quiet and waiting until we're prepared a little bit more before they have 341 00:30:41.240 --> 00:30:45.759 a mass contact. Well, let me ask you that if they're saying they're 342 00:30:45.799 --> 00:30:52.000 not prepared, are you saying that their suggestion is that on an evolutionary scale, 343 00:30:52.680 --> 00:31:00.559 emotionally physiologically, because if you're traumatized, it can damage you physic geologically, 344 00:31:00.640 --> 00:31:03.680 your body, your mind, even your spirit. Are we still too 345 00:31:03.799 --> 00:31:11.759 young to accept ET's in our cosmos even though they're flying around in their different 346 00:31:11.759 --> 00:31:19.440 ships and observing our planet. So I think that this is my opinion, 347 00:31:19.480 --> 00:31:25.559 that they think we're pretty close because we're seeing more. We're pretty close to 348 00:31:25.880 --> 00:31:29.920 being prepared because we're seeing more of them in the skies. And it's not 349 00:31:30.000 --> 00:31:33.240 that we don't have any contact, because people come forward and they've said, 350 00:31:33.240 --> 00:31:37.039 you know, I had contact with an extra trustrial, I was approached, 351 00:31:37.079 --> 00:31:40.200 I went on a ship. I wasn't abducted. Yeah, I'm talking on 352 00:31:40.240 --> 00:31:42.200 a global scale. We don't know, because you know, we haven't reached 353 00:31:42.200 --> 00:31:45.920 all corners of the Earth with this. Some of us are more prepared, 354 00:31:47.119 --> 00:31:49.799 some of us are more sophisticated and more knowledgeable, but it's not everybody. 355 00:31:49.960 --> 00:31:56.680 But we're getting there, you know. One interesting story out of the sixties 356 00:31:56.799 --> 00:32:00.759 was Gene Roddenberry, who was a creative of Star Trek, and he was 357 00:32:00.799 --> 00:32:06.960 sitting in on channeling sessions by a woman named Phyllis Schlemmer. Schlimmer. I 358 00:32:07.000 --> 00:32:09.240 hope that's how to pronounce it. Forgive me if that's if I'm not pronouncing 359 00:32:09.279 --> 00:32:15.559 it correctly. But she was channeling. She said extraterrestrials. And I believe 360 00:32:15.559 --> 00:32:20.039 her. I believe channeling is a thing, you know. And she said, 361 00:32:20.319 --> 00:32:24.160 these extraterrestrials were a federation, and they said, they're in these ships 362 00:32:24.160 --> 00:32:30.000 near Earth, and their personnel is made up of people from different worlds, 363 00:32:30.559 --> 00:32:35.720 and they are an a mission of peace. And Geene Roddenberry was sitting in 364 00:32:35.720 --> 00:32:39.559 on those sessions. And it is rumored that or it is thought that Gene 365 00:32:39.640 --> 00:32:45.359 Roddenberry started Star Trek as a result of what he was hearing, and that 366 00:32:45.519 --> 00:32:49.119 even some of the scripts were based around what he was hearing. Now, 367 00:32:49.680 --> 00:32:55.319 something else I've heard recently is that extraterrestrials. I don't know if there's any 368 00:32:55.680 --> 00:33:00.559 truth to it, but it makes sense that when they approached, you know, 369 00:33:00.319 --> 00:33:04.519 the government, they had said that they wanted us prepared. And one 370 00:33:04.519 --> 00:33:07.400 of the ways that they said, the government and their talk, which was 371 00:33:07.680 --> 00:33:12.839 through science fiction, that they could prepare us through science fiction. How many 372 00:33:12.839 --> 00:33:16.920 times have we looked at science fiction and seen other things that came true, 373 00:33:17.039 --> 00:33:22.319 you know, in the future. So basically, people have a more expanded 374 00:33:23.279 --> 00:33:29.720 view of the galaxy and extraterrestrials due to some of the science fiction we are 375 00:33:29.759 --> 00:33:32.839 watching. So some of us are already waiting and eager, but some of 376 00:33:32.960 --> 00:33:37.400 us. For others, it's never reached them yet, but it's getting there. 377 00:33:37.920 --> 00:33:43.480 Yeah, that's fascinating thought that science fiction is kind of like a precursor 378 00:33:43.559 --> 00:33:47.400 of full blown contact. Yeah, I mean, you're right, it makes 379 00:33:47.440 --> 00:33:52.279 it a little bit easier when we see aliens on the big screen and streaming 380 00:33:52.319 --> 00:33:58.160 media at home. And well, this is the other thing that really is 381 00:33:58.240 --> 00:34:05.319 kind of questionable for me is here. Recently, NASA went to the theological 382 00:34:05.400 --> 00:34:14.320 theological theologic theologians of the world, the priests, the ministers, and the 383 00:34:15.519 --> 00:34:22.000 other religious leaders and asked their opinion of how the world would react to first 384 00:34:22.039 --> 00:34:29.400 contact, and they just repeated the same thing from nineteen sixty the Brookies Institute, 385 00:34:29.400 --> 00:34:34.159 that people would be upset, it would shake religious foundations. I mean, 386 00:34:34.679 --> 00:34:37.239 why didn't these guys go to social media, which is where everybody's on, 387 00:34:38.079 --> 00:34:43.519 and ask the leaders or get a survey of people on Twitter, which 388 00:34:43.559 --> 00:34:47.159 is now ex Facebook, Instagram, and ask them, what do you think, 389 00:34:47.800 --> 00:34:52.639 what do you think would be? Well, how would you react? 390 00:34:52.079 --> 00:34:54.199 I bet you're two to one. They would say, we want it, 391 00:34:54.360 --> 00:34:58.480 we're waiting for it. We don't want to sit around anymore. It's just 392 00:34:58.639 --> 00:35:06.000 so adequated, kind of backward thinking that this nasal organization who runs everything has 393 00:35:06.039 --> 00:35:09.599 and it's very frustrating, isn't it. It's very frustrating. Yeah, but 394 00:35:09.719 --> 00:35:15.000 I think people are beginning to ignore them. They know there's something going on, 395 00:35:15.079 --> 00:35:17.639 so they're just saying, ah, okay, they don't want to tell 396 00:35:17.719 --> 00:35:22.480 us. They don't want to tell us, but we know and they're proceeding. 397 00:35:22.559 --> 00:35:31.280 We have to proceed from there. We cannot wait for these organizations the 398 00:35:31.320 --> 00:35:36.400 government to tell us what to think. We need to come to our own 399 00:35:36.480 --> 00:35:40.159 conclusions which people are doing, and move forward in our thinking on our own. 400 00:35:40.800 --> 00:35:44.559 You know, people talk about disclosure, let us see what you got, 401 00:35:44.679 --> 00:35:49.599 let us see what you got. I think that that may hold people 402 00:35:49.599 --> 00:35:51.880 in place. Well, I'm not sure what to think until you know they 403 00:35:51.920 --> 00:35:54.320 make an announcement. It's right in front of us all the time. There 404 00:35:54.320 --> 00:36:01.239 are scientists and you know, professionals all over to place, Archaeologists and others 405 00:36:01.280 --> 00:36:06.320 like yourself, for example, going out and looking at our history. They're 406 00:36:06.360 --> 00:36:13.400 looking and seeing what's out there that offers evidence that something happened in our past 407 00:36:13.639 --> 00:36:15.679 and that we're not alone in the universe. We never were and they're here 408 00:36:15.719 --> 00:36:22.519 today. We don't need someone to tell us that they retrieved crash ship for 409 00:36:22.679 --> 00:36:28.440 us to believe that there are extra trustrials about. And if most of us 410 00:36:28.719 --> 00:36:34.760 start I'm the meeting talking having I know, meetings, count hall meetings, 411 00:36:34.800 --> 00:36:37.639 whatever, maybe the extraterrustrials so it we'll say, okay, they're ready, 412 00:36:37.679 --> 00:36:42.239 because I tell you, if we don't do something, if we're going to 413 00:36:42.280 --> 00:36:45.480 go by what we're seeing in science fiction, we have two choices we have. 414 00:36:45.199 --> 00:36:50.480 We could go into a space faring future, which might you know, 415 00:36:50.760 --> 00:36:54.360 just require it would require their technology. If we talk about wormholes, which 416 00:36:54.400 --> 00:36:59.280 we can get into because they have it. If we want a healthier planet, 417 00:36:59.440 --> 00:37:04.159 if we want for diseases, which they have. We've heard this from 418 00:37:04.159 --> 00:37:07.559 people who have been, you know, talking to extraterrestrials and say, you 419 00:37:07.559 --> 00:37:10.239 know what, I was totally healed. And there's rumors that there may be 420 00:37:10.320 --> 00:37:15.320 extraterrestrials working with our scientists, you know, for health purposes. But if 421 00:37:15.320 --> 00:37:19.280 we want a better earth, a better world, when we're going that's futuristic, 422 00:37:20.079 --> 00:37:22.719 you know. I think we need to embrace the idea that they're here 423 00:37:22.320 --> 00:37:27.519 and confront them and have them, you know, ready to talk to us. 424 00:37:27.679 --> 00:37:31.440 Or we could have that apocalyptic future that we also see in science fiction 425 00:37:31.639 --> 00:37:35.400 where we just went the other way. Now, which one do you want? 426 00:37:36.559 --> 00:37:38.960 People will say, oh, well, I don't have to worry about 427 00:37:39.000 --> 00:37:43.280 the apocalyptic future because I won't be here anyway, I'll be dead. Well 428 00:37:43.320 --> 00:37:45.519 it's not true. I mean, if we get into metaphysics, we don't 429 00:37:45.599 --> 00:37:50.159 die. We don't know where we'll go, where we end up. And 430 00:37:50.480 --> 00:37:52.800 you know, the truth is they talk about reincarnation. You might in the 431 00:37:52.840 --> 00:37:57.559 back here and in apocalyptic but like I think, you have to think about 432 00:37:57.559 --> 00:38:00.320 the whole big picture. You don't have to think about this like this is 433 00:38:00.320 --> 00:38:02.559 getting it to something else. Cliff, You have to think about this life. 434 00:38:02.559 --> 00:38:05.679 But you need to think about the next life too, because I'm here 435 00:38:05.679 --> 00:38:08.239 to tell you you don't die. Yeah, maybe that got a little weird 436 00:38:08.280 --> 00:38:10.840 for a minute. Yeah, that's there is. Hey, let's talk about 437 00:38:10.880 --> 00:38:15.519 this wonderful book. You know, one thing that you have a huge chapter 438 00:38:15.679 --> 00:38:23.920 on is what is known as undersea submerged objects us os, and talk a 439 00:38:24.000 --> 00:38:29.559 little bit about this, because you don't just get into the sightings of craft 440 00:38:29.639 --> 00:38:34.519 coming in and out of the ocean. You actually show photographs and we're going 441 00:38:34.559 --> 00:38:42.159 to talk about these different places where it looks like there's actual communities or bases 442 00:38:42.480 --> 00:38:50.320 under the water. Yeah, that one I have to tell you. Let 443 00:38:50.360 --> 00:38:53.360 me just let me just get over there for a seconds. So that is 444 00:38:53.400 --> 00:38:59.920 my favorite chapter. I love the topic and I don't know why I'm so 445 00:39:00.039 --> 00:39:07.039 attracted to it, but yeah, there are apparently beings living under our water, 446 00:39:07.159 --> 00:39:13.360 extraterrestrial beings or they could be intraterre terrestrial beings. So basically, where 447 00:39:13.400 --> 00:39:19.480 do I start with this? I'll start. I wanted to start with looking 448 00:39:19.599 --> 00:39:22.800 as a fact in this whole book that we have been visited for ages. 449 00:39:22.880 --> 00:39:28.800 So many people might be surprised to know that Christopher Columbus saw usos. Now, 450 00:39:28.800 --> 00:39:32.119 what is a USO. A USO is a UFO that goes into the 451 00:39:32.159 --> 00:39:38.000 water, you know, and submerges. This idea or this evidence has been 452 00:39:38.000 --> 00:39:43.400 going on since the beginning, but Christopher Columbus wrote about it. They called 453 00:39:43.400 --> 00:39:45.760 the stars Yeah, he didn't know they were UFOs, right, he didn't 454 00:39:45.800 --> 00:39:50.519 know there were ships, but he said they talked about these stars around the 455 00:39:50.559 --> 00:39:52.679 fleet of ships. He had, the three three ships, and he wrote 456 00:39:52.679 --> 00:39:58.440 about them in his journal. Thank goodness we have those journals from him and 457 00:39:58.639 --> 00:40:02.079 people like Admiral mural Bird, who you know, wrote down what they saw. 458 00:40:02.440 --> 00:40:07.960 So us always have been around for a while. And you know, 459 00:40:07.000 --> 00:40:10.840 they've been seen moving under the water. You can see lights. People on 460 00:40:12.320 --> 00:40:16.039 cruises and ships have seen lights moving under the water. Well, who's driving 461 00:40:16.079 --> 00:40:20.440 them? Who are they and why are they under the water. Well, 462 00:40:21.519 --> 00:40:30.119 there are quite a bit of stories and evidence that there are beings existing there. 463 00:40:30.360 --> 00:40:34.320 Now. These beings, I should say, are not mermaids, all 464 00:40:34.400 --> 00:40:40.480 right, These are something else. I suspect that there are extraterrestrials who came 465 00:40:40.519 --> 00:40:45.639 in from a planet for whatever reason, a different world and are living there. 466 00:40:45.760 --> 00:40:51.360 They could be living there for watching humanity, taking notes. They could 467 00:40:51.400 --> 00:40:57.159 be mining the ocean. Some theory that they could be going into the ocean 468 00:40:57.199 --> 00:41:00.400 and then going into inner Earth because there is cavity you know, down there 469 00:41:00.440 --> 00:41:06.079 that they could get into. That's the theory. One person talked about going 470 00:41:06.159 --> 00:41:10.440 on a trip on a ship and he went to the US. The usl 471 00:41:10.480 --> 00:41:15.280 went into the water and entered a cave and they got out, and then 472 00:41:15.280 --> 00:41:20.079 they went further down that uh, into u inner earth and saw it. 473 00:41:20.440 --> 00:41:23.320 But these guys, there are guys, forget about in an earth for a 474 00:41:23.320 --> 00:41:28.280 minute. There are guys that are living in the ocean and these There was 475 00:41:28.280 --> 00:41:32.199 this one lady, Now she was anonymous. I can't corporate her story, 476 00:41:32.239 --> 00:41:36.639 but it was just too fascinating to not include in the book. And I'll 477 00:41:36.639 --> 00:41:38.760 tell you why in a minute. So she basically said that she worked for 478 00:41:38.920 --> 00:41:46.119 a government organization that were investigating beached whales and when she and her team arrived 479 00:41:46.199 --> 00:41:52.880 there, these whales had holes in them and it looked like the holes had 480 00:41:52.920 --> 00:41:59.440 been cut out with some sort of laser knife or weapon, and and uh, 481 00:41:59.800 --> 00:42:04.679 you know pooled is like these little pots of capsules or something of meat 482 00:42:04.719 --> 00:42:08.239 they took. Someone was eating the whale meat essentially, is what happened. 483 00:42:08.400 --> 00:42:12.519 And that was so weird to read. So the story goes that, you 484 00:42:12.559 --> 00:42:15.199 know, they brought in a team. It was just so unusual. They 485 00:42:15.239 --> 00:42:20.039 brought in this equipment to submerge in the area where you can see what's going 486 00:42:20.079 --> 00:42:23.039 on only to a point of course, to in the ocean, and they 487 00:42:23.239 --> 00:42:30.719 encountered they they encountered these beings that were humanoid that they personally didn't encounter them. 488 00:42:31.000 --> 00:42:37.440 The submersible had cameras and equipment and they watched these these these beings for 489 00:42:37.800 --> 00:42:40.400 quite a while, and they said they were humanoid. They were long, 490 00:42:42.159 --> 00:42:45.519 tall humanoids. They didn't swim like we swim, or like a fish would 491 00:42:45.519 --> 00:42:50.079 swim. They moved differently in the water. They were very quick, and 492 00:42:50.119 --> 00:42:57.480 they had weapons they fired on submersible, she said. And then they also 493 00:42:57.559 --> 00:43:05.000 discovered that they had vehicles and that there were some sort of housing city type 494 00:43:05.039 --> 00:43:08.519 things. And it is said that these these places are not just in one 495 00:43:08.519 --> 00:43:13.840 part of the ocean on Earth, but in other areas too. Now, 496 00:43:15.639 --> 00:43:20.400 although I can't prove it, I mean, she's an anomous, anonymous writer. 497 00:43:21.400 --> 00:43:28.639 It's interesting and I believe it because of a declassified story out of Russia. 498 00:43:29.639 --> 00:43:35.079 Russia, if you go into their files, they talk about very it's 499 00:43:35.119 --> 00:43:39.880 become kind of famous, this this experience where the Russian navy UH sent down 500 00:43:39.960 --> 00:43:47.679 these guys were training and they encountered beings under the ocean, and UH they 501 00:43:47.679 --> 00:43:52.719 were humanoid, you know, and they knew that they were. They said, 502 00:43:52.760 --> 00:43:54.280 from another world. I guess they you know, looked the part. 503 00:43:55.239 --> 00:44:00.679 But they came back and they reported it to their superior. Superior who had 504 00:44:00.840 --> 00:44:06.000 you know, heard of this such a thing, because Russia is really famous 505 00:44:06.039 --> 00:44:09.280 for usos, said go back and try to capture these got you know, 506 00:44:09.559 --> 00:44:13.679 to capture them, I don't know, arrest them or whatever. So they 507 00:44:13.760 --> 00:44:15.840 went back down and they tried that and two of them died. They were 508 00:44:15.880 --> 00:44:21.079 fired on and they died, and this is information that was made public, 509 00:44:21.480 --> 00:44:27.800 and then the other three were injured. That is a believable story because it's 510 00:44:27.840 --> 00:44:32.519 in Russia's military release. Because I remember reading that in your chapter about the 511 00:44:32.599 --> 00:44:38.400 Russians, they seemed to be much more willing to talk about interactions with off 512 00:44:38.440 --> 00:44:45.199 world types than then the United States military, which continues to cover up I 513 00:44:45.239 --> 00:44:50.679 want you to talk about. I'm going to give you a couple of names 514 00:44:50.679 --> 00:44:55.840 that you feature in here. There's a place called Point Dune close to in 515 00:44:55.880 --> 00:45:00.000 your part of the world, which is off of Malibu in the Pacific Ocean, 516 00:45:01.000 --> 00:45:08.039 and you show an underground sonar I guess or it's a scan. It 517 00:45:08.079 --> 00:45:15.559 could be Google or Google Earth that has passed deep underwater, and it's a 518 00:45:15.599 --> 00:45:22.440 complex of some kind. It's a artificial complex, and apparently, according to 519 00:45:23.440 --> 00:45:30.000 eyewitnesses, it's a place where UFOs come in and out at different times of 520 00:45:30.039 --> 00:45:35.159 the day. That's I found that many amazing to talk about that point Dune. 521 00:45:37.079 --> 00:45:43.599 Well, you know what's really interesting, you know that you said that 522 00:45:43.760 --> 00:45:45.440 they're coming and going, is that people are seeing these things all the time, 523 00:45:46.000 --> 00:45:49.960 and we're still getting you know, word that we have to have proof 524 00:45:50.000 --> 00:45:52.840 that they exist. I'm like, what do you think they are? But 525 00:45:53.159 --> 00:45:57.639 so there are several eupologists I wrote that believe that in the depths of the 526 00:45:57.639 --> 00:46:02.199 ocean, you know, near Malibu, there exist an extra terrestrial base because 527 00:46:02.239 --> 00:46:08.320 there just have been so many sightings that is clear that they're just not visiting 528 00:46:08.360 --> 00:46:12.840 our waters, that they're living down there. Now you know what they're doing. 529 00:46:12.960 --> 00:46:15.360 Of course I don't know. But that's you know, Cliff, that's 530 00:46:15.400 --> 00:46:22.159 all we have. That is speculation because it's this idea is fueled by reports 531 00:46:22.159 --> 00:46:28.039 of a massive out of place construction located approximately two thousand feet beneath the waters, 532 00:46:28.079 --> 00:46:31.880 measuring nearly three miles wide. So there's a structure and it's known as 533 00:46:31.880 --> 00:46:37.559 the Sycamore nole. Several UFO researchers believe it's to be extraterrustrial related. So 534 00:46:37.880 --> 00:46:44.320 when those uesos are going down, you know, are they going into this 535 00:46:44.480 --> 00:46:49.400 structure or a nearby are they are they have a city under it or around 536 00:46:49.440 --> 00:46:52.800 it? Where are they going? That's all I know of it is that 537 00:46:52.800 --> 00:46:57.000 that is a hot spot. You want to see usos and you know the 538 00:46:57.079 --> 00:47:00.400 area, just all you have to do is stand out there for you know, 539 00:47:00.440 --> 00:47:07.199 it's funny because our military is uh and we've talked to on this program, 540 00:47:07.440 --> 00:47:13.960 Like I said, NASA astronomer, most notably Marion Rudnik, who wrote 541 00:47:13.960 --> 00:47:21.280 a book about his sightings, and there's nothing the military can do. They 542 00:47:21.320 --> 00:47:24.920 see these ships. There are a thousand tenth out who knows how many thousands 543 00:47:24.960 --> 00:47:32.239 of years advance of us, and the ships will show up in la skies. 544 00:47:34.280 --> 00:47:37.639 They'll quickly scramble some jets to come after them, and these guys just 545 00:47:37.679 --> 00:47:44.320 blink out, change dimensions, go through a wormhole. It's a joke. 546 00:47:45.480 --> 00:47:49.440 It's a joke, and it must be very frightening for the military. Who 547 00:47:49.480 --> 00:47:54.840 needs to who must be dominant and you know, protect our skies. You 548 00:47:54.880 --> 00:48:00.159 know, the whole thinking is kind of asked backwards, isn't it. It 549 00:48:00.280 --> 00:48:06.320 is? It is backwards, And I don't know. Sometimes that they're frightened 550 00:48:06.440 --> 00:48:09.960 or just frustrated, or are fascinated or just ready to throw up their hands 551 00:48:10.000 --> 00:48:15.800 and give up. Fortunately they are not fired upon and they're not injured, 552 00:48:15.079 --> 00:48:20.119 and it does seem like the extraterrestrials sometimes they're just playing with them, you 553 00:48:20.239 --> 00:48:27.159 know, it's exactly right. Yeah, so there were Yeah, sometimes I 554 00:48:27.360 --> 00:48:30.320 just think that they're playing with them. There was one story out of Russia 555 00:48:30.360 --> 00:48:36.159 from from the sixties, uh in the in the space race where they the 556 00:48:36.199 --> 00:48:38.760 Russians had gone up and they were experimenting to you know, go to the 557 00:48:38.800 --> 00:48:42.760 moon and all the stuff, and they encountered UFOs and there were three of 558 00:48:42.800 --> 00:48:45.840 them and this Russian ship and they kind of bounce them around like a ping 559 00:48:45.920 --> 00:48:51.480 pong everywhere. The ship was trying to get away, and they come and 560 00:48:51.719 --> 00:48:55.519 prevent them. I don't know how it all works scientifically, scientifically or technologically, 561 00:48:55.599 --> 00:49:00.719 but that is a story. And the Russians did come back spooked, 562 00:49:00.960 --> 00:49:05.880 but they weren't hurt. So whoever is out there from all of my research. 563 00:49:05.960 --> 00:49:09.679 I have never come across a story where anyone has been injured. Now, 564 00:49:09.760 --> 00:49:15.079 I did put in the book, as you said, areas around the 565 00:49:15.119 --> 00:49:21.079 world where usos have been seen coming and going from the waters, but no 566 00:49:21.119 --> 00:49:24.159 one's ever been injured. Mostly they're just fascinated and they're standing. People are 567 00:49:24.159 --> 00:49:29.599 standing right on the beach watching and they get a better view of the UFOs 568 00:49:29.840 --> 00:49:34.440 because they have to submerge. And in one case out of Russia, someone 569 00:49:35.079 --> 00:49:39.079 witnessed this is UFO was hovering and the extraterrestrials were coming down. I don't 570 00:49:39.079 --> 00:49:42.719 know if it was some kind of ladder now I can't remember or how they 571 00:49:42.719 --> 00:49:45.920 were doing, but they were coming down and they were going into uh, 572 00:49:45.000 --> 00:49:49.239 into the uh the ocean, and people could see them, and they were 573 00:49:49.239 --> 00:49:52.320 ignoring the people watching. And that's a true story. I have that one 574 00:49:52.559 --> 00:49:59.480 book, and just fascinating. So someone's down there, someone's coming and going. 575 00:50:00.159 --> 00:50:05.079 They seem to be benevolent, and oh why are they here? Why 576 00:50:05.079 --> 00:50:08.800 are they here? Do they need to leave their world and come to ours? 577 00:50:09.159 --> 00:50:13.199 Yeah, because I always put this theory out there because I don't know 578 00:50:13.239 --> 00:50:15.920 why anyone would want to come to this crazy planet unless you know it was 579 00:50:15.960 --> 00:50:20.119 a good place for them to live. And maybe we have to let me 580 00:50:20.159 --> 00:50:22.639 ask you to let me stop you real quickly. Is it possible that we 581 00:50:22.719 --> 00:50:29.519 have other races that are sharing our planet with us? Yeah, that would 582 00:50:29.519 --> 00:50:32.360 be them. They're sharing the planet in the ocean. Yeah, they'aring the 583 00:50:32.360 --> 00:50:38.159 planet, but they keep themselves separate. So we're not, you know, 584 00:50:38.239 --> 00:50:40.559 familiar with them, and they don't seem to want to have anything to do 585 00:50:40.599 --> 00:50:47.360 with us anyway. We're going to take a commercial break to allow our sponsors 586 00:50:47.400 --> 00:50:52.760 to identify themselves and we will be back with my guests today, Constance Victoria 587 00:50:52.800 --> 00:51:00.960 Briggs, who is presenting a new book just came out, Earth's Galactic History. 588 00:51:00.840 --> 00:51:39.199 We'll be right back. I guess today is Constance Victoria Briggs. She 589 00:51:39.400 --> 00:51:45.039 is a prolific writer on anomalies. She's noted for her books on the Moon, 590 00:51:45.800 --> 00:51:51.599 most notably The Moon's Galactic History. And today we are talking about a 591 00:51:51.679 --> 00:51:55.280 new book just came out a couple of months ago called Earth's Galactic History and 592 00:51:55.360 --> 00:52:01.920 its et Connections, and we are highlighting some of the most unusual phenomenon that 593 00:52:02.000 --> 00:52:09.880 she has documented in her work. There's mythsts about aliens sharing the planet that 594 00:52:10.000 --> 00:52:15.679 go back beyond the Greeks. I think it might even be Sumerians that have 595 00:52:15.960 --> 00:52:22.639 bits and pieces of hints that could be mythology that there are other races that 596 00:52:22.760 --> 00:52:28.199 have always been here, that have always been here and the ancients knew about. 597 00:52:28.280 --> 00:52:31.480 Now we know the Maya dealt with star people, not the most recent 598 00:52:31.559 --> 00:52:37.559 Maya a thousand years before the early Mayas. The established Mayas who built the 599 00:52:37.599 --> 00:52:42.400 great Cities talk about working with the star people. Same thing with the Egyptians. 600 00:52:42.400 --> 00:52:49.920 There's hints about that everywhere. But if it's so unpalatable to our current 601 00:52:50.039 --> 00:52:54.199 leaders, perhaps you know, after the cleansing, the big Dailuger that wiped 602 00:52:54.239 --> 00:52:59.559 out most of the planet's people, which is known as the Younger Driest period, 603 00:53:00.920 --> 00:53:05.719 the new leaders can't deal with it, and so maybe this is being 604 00:53:05.840 --> 00:53:09.320 covered up. You know, I don't know, it's I'm really curious to 605 00:53:09.480 --> 00:53:14.320 know what the hell is going on. And because you know, we would 606 00:53:14.320 --> 00:53:17.159 be better off if we knew that we were sharing the planet with a very 607 00:53:17.199 --> 00:53:22.320 advanced people, and it would help us evolve as a culture. You know 608 00:53:22.360 --> 00:53:30.360 that That's what I think, that's the message. And they apparently are are 609 00:53:30.440 --> 00:53:36.480 kept separate either by agreement or by fear, or just they think we're just 610 00:53:36.599 --> 00:53:39.320 you know, apparently this warring, dumb race of people. You know, 611 00:53:39.800 --> 00:53:45.480 we talked about the oceans, but we didn't talk about inside the earth, 612 00:53:46.000 --> 00:53:50.199 you know, I mean, you know, tradition, history and mythology, 613 00:53:50.239 --> 00:53:55.920 whatever tells us there or that the earth is full of people some beings inside 614 00:53:55.920 --> 00:54:02.159 of the earth. And I think our best evidence to that was Admiral Bird. 615 00:54:02.440 --> 00:54:06.320 His story which is very famous. I mean, he was a decorated 616 00:54:07.320 --> 00:54:13.880 military man and he the story is I'm sure everybody your audience is so sophisticated, 617 00:54:13.880 --> 00:54:16.159 but you know, he went out and he came across Inner Earth as 618 00:54:16.199 --> 00:54:21.039 he was flying. He was taken to Inner Earth and introduced to the leader, 619 00:54:21.320 --> 00:54:23.760 and basically what brought us up with what you said, Cliff. The 620 00:54:23.840 --> 00:54:28.199 leader said that they had been here, you know, forever, you know, 621 00:54:28.239 --> 00:54:30.119 for a long, very very very long time, and that they stay 622 00:54:30.159 --> 00:54:36.199 separate from us, and that they had survived, whereas the people on top 623 00:54:36.239 --> 00:54:40.679 of the Earth hadn't survived pastrophees. They had and they've been here, living 624 00:54:40.719 --> 00:54:44.840 here, you know, with us for a very long time, but we're 625 00:54:44.840 --> 00:54:50.719 not aware of it because we're kept separate and he was told by the government 626 00:54:50.920 --> 00:54:52.920 not to talk about it. So many years, you know, I don't 627 00:54:52.920 --> 00:54:58.639 know how many years thirty went by before we ever knew what he encountered down 628 00:54:58.639 --> 00:55:00.719 there. But apparently they're down there. And that's not the only story. 629 00:55:00.880 --> 00:55:06.440 There have been others more recent that talked about going into an inner Earth, 630 00:55:06.840 --> 00:55:08.599 and I talk about some of them in my book. And one of the 631 00:55:08.639 --> 00:55:15.239 gentlemen went and decided to stay. His friends did an expedition down there, 632 00:55:15.599 --> 00:55:20.320 and he decided to stay, and they came back and they tried to tell 633 00:55:20.360 --> 00:55:24.920 people about it, and so they found it. As they were exploring caverns, 634 00:55:25.280 --> 00:55:30.480 they found this, and they found a way down. And it's the 635 00:55:30.519 --> 00:55:37.000 feeling that this is slowly, we're slowly getting more and more sightings, and 636 00:55:37.400 --> 00:55:40.559 like, there's this big story right now of this jellyfish UAP that was seen 637 00:55:40.599 --> 00:55:45.800 in Iraq in twenty eighteen. I keep looking at the footage and it's a 638 00:55:45.599 --> 00:55:52.960 it's an amazing craft. Looks like a single person craft or it could be 639 00:55:52.199 --> 00:55:54.920 a drone of some kind. Yeah, I saw it this morning. I 640 00:55:55.000 --> 00:56:00.000 was actually reading about it this morning. Yeah, it's like in the funny 641 00:56:00.079 --> 00:56:02.599 thing about it is that more and more ex military are saying, you know 642 00:56:02.639 --> 00:56:06.599 what, I'm not going to not talk about this anymore. I'm not part 643 00:56:06.639 --> 00:56:09.800 of the military anymore. Here's what I believe it is. And these are 644 00:56:10.119 --> 00:56:15.199 some of these guys are intelligence experts, and they're before Congress is saying, 645 00:56:16.400 --> 00:56:22.320 tell the world what we know. I'm giving you this data. Let more 646 00:56:22.360 --> 00:56:24.920 people know about it. I think the big thing is, and I'm curious 647 00:56:24.920 --> 00:56:30.280 about your opinion, it's important to know that if we are if somebody is 648 00:56:30.400 --> 00:56:37.679 traumatized, frightened beyond their ability to cope, is what I'm talking about, 649 00:56:37.079 --> 00:56:43.719 that's damaging and it can cause irreparable damage. Like I said, body mind, 650 00:56:43.800 --> 00:56:51.119 spirit. But if it's if it's in our face and it's being presented 651 00:56:51.320 --> 00:56:58.119 in a safe manner. Here's this craft. Look at this ship. Here's 652 00:56:58.159 --> 00:57:00.920 a creature, could be an alien. It looks alien to us. I 653 00:57:00.920 --> 00:57:04.599 mean this, I mean this stuff is happening more and more and more. 654 00:57:05.639 --> 00:57:09.280 If we can become less sensitive about it, maybe like you're saying, this 655 00:57:09.360 --> 00:57:15.199 is a prelude to first contact or I love a disclosure of some kind. 656 00:57:15.199 --> 00:57:21.400 What do you say, yes, yes, that is I think what is 657 00:57:21.440 --> 00:57:23.320 going on. I think if this is what you're asking. I'm not sure 658 00:57:23.360 --> 00:57:29.840 I'm understanding the question, but I think that we are being prepared slowly by 659 00:57:29.880 --> 00:57:34.920 these things, by seeing these things that they're here, and they don't want 660 00:57:34.960 --> 00:57:37.639 to do it all at once, but they are letting us see, you 661 00:57:37.679 --> 00:57:42.719 know, have an insight into who they are in their world with the ships, 662 00:57:42.719 --> 00:57:45.360 but it's not even just ships. People are seeing beings, they're seeing 663 00:57:45.519 --> 00:57:51.280 entities. Yeah, and you know, I think I may have a story 664 00:57:51.519 --> 00:57:54.920 where people had seen it may be in my book where they had seen eteeth 665 00:57:55.400 --> 00:58:00.719 in the ship. You could see them flying one of the ships. And 666 00:58:00.760 --> 00:58:02.480 then there was this is not in my book, but there was one story 667 00:58:02.480 --> 00:58:07.559 I was reading where a lady had encountered of being on the beach. She 668 00:58:07.639 --> 00:58:13.800 knew it was an extraterrestrial. And more of those stories are are coming. 669 00:58:14.320 --> 00:58:16.320 People are coming forward with those two. She wasn't as frightened, but it 670 00:58:16.400 --> 00:58:21.239 might frighten others. And Cliff, this is what's really interesting is that there's 671 00:58:21.280 --> 00:58:27.039 this whole group out there that's talking about kryptids. All right. I never 672 00:58:27.280 --> 00:58:31.000 followed that group or looked into the group, but lately I am beginning to 673 00:58:31.000 --> 00:58:36.559 wonder if some of the stuff they're seeing maybe you know, ET related. 674 00:58:37.599 --> 00:58:43.280 They're seeing a lot of strange creatures that seem to be manifesting around the globe, 675 00:58:43.760 --> 00:58:47.639 and there's no explanation. Are they brought in from ET's Are they ET's? 676 00:58:47.639 --> 00:58:51.199 Where are these things coming from? I do have a theory they may 677 00:58:51.239 --> 00:58:53.599 be coming from beneath the earth because and I talked about this in my book, 678 00:58:53.639 --> 00:59:00.039 there are lots of caverns that lead down into other avergs inside the earth 679 00:59:00.039 --> 00:59:02.519 and they could just be down there, you know, coming up. I 680 00:59:02.559 --> 00:59:07.440 do talk about that. But you know, it does it does make you 681 00:59:07.480 --> 00:59:14.280 wonder. We have that whole scenario that was out of what was it, 682 00:59:15.159 --> 00:59:21.039 Las Vegas, Las Vegas, the creature that was in the park creature, 683 00:59:21.360 --> 00:59:24.800 Well we have that that thing and you know, tough like that is going 684 00:59:24.880 --> 00:59:29.159 more, going on more and more. So Yeah, I think to answer 685 00:59:29.159 --> 00:59:34.280 your question, I think that slowly they are doing things to let people know, 686 00:59:35.159 --> 00:59:38.960 and I think in the not too distant future we're going to be seeing 687 00:59:39.039 --> 00:59:45.159 even more and eventually, gradually we'll probably have some sort of of disclosure, 688 00:59:45.199 --> 00:59:50.239 mass disclosure. Could people be traumatized, Yes, which is why they're going 689 00:59:50.280 --> 00:59:52.960 in slow, like a slow education and trying to, you know, tell 690 00:59:53.000 --> 00:59:57.320 them about these things. You have a whole chapter that I want to talk 691 00:59:57.320 --> 01:00:04.639 about called ets among Us extraterrestrials, and and you list the known races of 692 01:00:04.719 --> 01:00:13.000 beings who have been either contacting people on the ground or certain people might be 693 01:00:13.159 --> 01:00:22.400 very sensitive and receiving communication that's not physical. And then there's these dimensional beings 694 01:00:22.440 --> 01:00:27.800 that are millions of years in advance of us, that can go from one 695 01:00:27.880 --> 01:00:34.519 dimension to another. Let's talk about the dramaons. Talk about them, and 696 01:00:34.639 --> 01:00:38.000 you know by the way, you guys that are listening. She Constance does 697 01:00:38.000 --> 01:00:45.760 a great job. She lists the races who are visiting their suspected age. 698 01:00:45.800 --> 01:00:49.840 Many of these beings are hundreds, They can live for hundreds of years. 699 01:00:50.239 --> 01:00:52.760 I think one or two is guessed at a thousand years or something unseen. 700 01:00:53.800 --> 01:01:00.320 She describes their physical appearance and then she describes this what we know of the 701 01:01:00.360 --> 01:01:05.440 interactions and what they talk about. So let's talk about the Andromedons. What 702 01:01:05.440 --> 01:01:09.280 do we know about them? And uh give us some details. So the 703 01:01:09.320 --> 01:01:15.960 Andromedons are my favorite, and I think they are one that we have the 704 01:01:16.079 --> 01:01:23.519 most information on because of a gentleman by the name of Alex Collier. You 705 01:01:23.559 --> 01:01:29.360 don't know him. So he he came out many years ago and said that 706 01:01:29.480 --> 01:01:35.159 he had been uh receiving information by the Andromeda from the Andromedons, and that 707 01:01:35.719 --> 01:01:45.159 he was an Andromeda ambassador and Drama Drama don ambassador, and he uh he 708 01:01:45.320 --> 01:01:50.280 was giving a lot of information from them about us, our galaxy, and 709 01:01:50.320 --> 01:01:54.800 our universe. And if you ever listen to this man talk, you don't 710 01:01:54.800 --> 01:01:59.159 have any doubt that he's telling the truth. I mean, he doesn't come 711 01:01:59.199 --> 01:02:01.639 across as an a crazy person, you know, at all. So he 712 01:02:01.719 --> 01:02:08.559 gave us some of the information on the Andromedans, and basically they are I'm 713 01:02:08.559 --> 01:02:12.280 going just because you know, I have some meany in here, I have 714 01:02:12.400 --> 01:02:14.840 to kind of, you know, do have to peauk a little at the 715 01:02:14.840 --> 01:02:19.039 book. They are from the Andromeda Galaxy. They are located in Andromeda, 716 01:02:19.199 --> 01:02:25.320 and they are said to live for hundreds of years. They're highly intelligent. 717 01:02:27.239 --> 01:02:34.079 They live a very peaceful life. They are content, happy people. They 718 01:02:34.079 --> 01:02:37.800 don't have any of the problems that we have in this world. Their desire 719 01:02:38.079 --> 01:02:44.199 for the galaxy is peace. They work towards it, and they are working 720 01:02:44.320 --> 01:02:51.159 with people on Earth. Be it channeling to try to get information out. 721 01:02:52.079 --> 01:02:57.719 But what was really interesting about the Andromedons is that they have said we are 722 01:02:58.000 --> 01:03:00.760 you know, we're a warring race, and that they that we need to 723 01:03:00.760 --> 01:03:06.320 grow up, and that you know, we can't be allowed to kill all 724 01:03:06.360 --> 01:03:10.800 of the life on earth, and that if we don't change, there may 725 01:03:10.840 --> 01:03:15.119 be consequences for us. Yeah. I remember reading that in your book, 726 01:03:15.159 --> 01:03:23.039 that we we have to start our warring ways and be more open and less 727 01:03:23.079 --> 01:03:29.480 aggressive. I think is what you suggest. There's enough. Is there a 728 01:03:29.559 --> 01:03:31.480 section in a book? I mean, because I can't remember on that one, 729 01:03:31.920 --> 01:03:37.840 do you describe their ships with their ships? Yeah, so let me 730 01:03:37.880 --> 01:03:42.920 see. Curious because I did. That was a very because this is this 731 01:03:43.000 --> 01:03:49.599 is the other thing that Marion described for us is that in the decades ago, 732 01:03:50.519 --> 01:03:52.679 they didn't care if you saw their ships or not, and they would 733 01:03:52.719 --> 01:03:58.679 just blink in and blink out. What's happening now is they're purposely slowing down 734 01:03:59.519 --> 01:04:03.199 so you can begin seeing the design of the ship. Some of them have 735 01:04:03.559 --> 01:04:11.719 very unusual insignia. Could be insignia form a craft or a group or something. 736 01:04:12.639 --> 01:04:15.320 We don't know, just like we do. But talk about that the 737 01:04:15.400 --> 01:04:20.119 ships that these different races have and if I mean, maybe some of the 738 01:04:20.159 --> 01:04:26.039 information comes through like okay, we use this propulsion system and because in dramaas 739 01:04:26.280 --> 01:04:30.840 because of that, like one hundred and fifty light years away something on Godly, 740 01:04:30.119 --> 01:04:34.599 I mean, it will take us in our current technology lifetimes to get 741 01:04:35.039 --> 01:04:41.360 to their further star in their galaxy. So they have obviously a technology that 742 01:04:41.480 --> 01:04:45.360 allows them to either travel directly or in the minute, we're going to talk 743 01:04:45.400 --> 01:04:51.159 about wormholes or portals. So it looks to me from my studies that the 744 01:04:51.360 --> 01:05:00.400 extraterrestrials all have their own kind of ships and sometimes there you know, there 745 01:05:00.400 --> 01:05:06.360 are some races that have ships designed for specific missions I can't address from the 746 01:05:06.400 --> 01:05:11.360 top of my Headcliff, I'm sorry. You know about the science and the 747 01:05:11.400 --> 01:05:14.239 technology, you know, I don't. I don't remember it all. But 748 01:05:14.320 --> 01:05:20.000 they are able to you know. Some of them are other mothership type areas 749 01:05:20.039 --> 01:05:24.840 where they live on the ship and they travel the universe. Some of them 750 01:05:24.920 --> 01:05:29.800 are just very I don't know. Uh, there's one race that has beam 751 01:05:29.920 --> 01:05:32.880 ships and they're I don't know. I can't. I can't tell you much 752 01:05:32.880 --> 01:05:36.280 about the science and technology. I apologize. I can tell you that they 753 01:05:36.280 --> 01:05:42.760 do have different ships, and all of these races that I named obviously have 754 01:05:42.840 --> 01:05:46.679 higher technology because they're flying the universe. I do descripe in the book how 755 01:05:46.760 --> 01:05:53.360 long some of them have been traveling the universe and their state of technology. 756 01:05:53.559 --> 01:05:58.360 Now, when we look at extraterrestrials, we need to keep in mind that 757 01:05:58.440 --> 01:06:02.719 there are and they, and there are new bees like us, so and 758 01:06:02.760 --> 01:06:06.480 then there are some behind us. So we have racists just starting out that 759 01:06:06.599 --> 01:06:12.199 don't have our technology. We have us which are nowhere near what's you know, 760 01:06:12.280 --> 01:06:15.719 going on out there, and then we have in between, you know, 761 01:06:15.119 --> 01:06:19.000 some that have been using I don't know, wormhole technology for years and 762 01:06:19.079 --> 01:06:21.840 some of that are just learning. So we're seeing all of these ships, 763 01:06:21.880 --> 01:06:29.159 but it does seem to me that they are belonging to some sort of federation 764 01:06:29.440 --> 01:06:32.679 or organization, that someone is controlling all of this. I don't do you 765 01:06:32.800 --> 01:06:35.519 say that they are. I mean, I believe this too, but I'm 766 01:06:35.519 --> 01:06:43.400 curious about your opinion if they are part of a federation of planets or part 767 01:06:43.440 --> 01:06:47.519 of our cosmos and they're visiting us, because we're getting out of hand and 768 01:06:47.559 --> 01:06:51.719 we need to be thought, you know, we need to be reprimanded for 769 01:06:51.880 --> 01:07:00.840 our nuclear behavior negative nuclear behavior. You know that what makes you say that 770 01:07:02.440 --> 01:07:08.159 it just seems to be disallowed. I mean, there is no reason for 771 01:07:08.239 --> 01:07:13.639 these beings that have the technology to not just come on in here and later, 772 01:07:14.559 --> 01:07:17.440 right, So I think that there is an agreement, this is my 773 01:07:17.519 --> 01:07:23.480 opinion, but that there is an agreement somewhere where they can only do but 774 01:07:23.599 --> 01:07:28.840 so much because it seems like you know, from looking at the UFOs in 775 01:07:28.880 --> 01:07:33.559 the past, they were very more, much more overt. In the beginning 776 01:07:33.639 --> 01:07:38.960 of history. There were etis living among us, they were working with people, 777 01:07:39.760 --> 01:07:43.880 people were traveling on ships, all right. They were far more overt. 778 01:07:44.079 --> 01:07:48.800 And I had I have in my book where extraterrestrials were intervening in wars. 779 01:07:49.239 --> 01:07:51.719 I don't know if you read that or not. But they were intervening 780 01:07:51.840 --> 01:07:56.800 and fighting, all right. And the people that then refer to them like 781 01:07:56.840 --> 01:08:00.920 in medial med evil times, the flying shields, they could only relate to 782 01:08:00.960 --> 01:08:04.840 them as shields, yeah, because gift shape, all right. But somewhere 783 01:08:04.840 --> 01:08:12.280 along the line they stopped appearing that way. Was that because of an agreement 784 01:08:12.320 --> 01:08:15.039 of some sort. Did someone tell them you can't do that? Or you 785 01:08:15.079 --> 01:08:19.199 could have to limit it and then moving forward. We do have stories here 786 01:08:19.239 --> 01:08:25.359 and there in history, but nothing at mass, so it seems that they 787 01:08:25.359 --> 01:08:30.039 were limited. And today, when we're seeing them, it seems that okay, 788 01:08:30.079 --> 01:08:33.520 now we're seeing them more slowly and slowly we could see ships all over 789 01:08:33.560 --> 01:08:42.159 the sky. I think that there are I think that someone's control of that 790 01:08:42.239 --> 01:08:45.800 how much we can see and how much information we're getting. But I think 791 01:08:45.800 --> 01:08:50.680 that soon we will see more and more. Et psychologists are saying, Okay, 792 01:08:50.760 --> 01:08:55.239 those earthlings could take a little bit more. Let's dial it up a 793 01:08:55.239 --> 01:08:59.800 few percent more. You show your ships, you get down here and meet 794 01:08:59.840 --> 01:09:05.159 with this person in the Yeah, it's kind of like they're dialing it up. 795 01:09:05.399 --> 01:09:10.359 Sorry, I'm sorry, I say they're dialing it up a little bit 796 01:09:10.439 --> 01:09:15.039 more. I you know, I have studied the phenomenon for since very very 797 01:09:15.079 --> 01:09:17.159 young. You know. I read Eric von Donegan's book A Charita of the 798 01:09:17.159 --> 01:09:21.840 Gods, which came out in like sixty eight or something, years and years 799 01:09:21.840 --> 01:09:30.159 and years ago. But for me, I've been wanting to see more interaction 800 01:09:30.800 --> 01:09:35.359 for a number of years. And I think it's like this observing, this 801 01:09:35.640 --> 01:09:40.920 showing themselves but not really is getting kind of old, and I got to 802 01:09:40.960 --> 01:09:45.560 the point where I didn't care about featuring ufologists and people that have had experiences 803 01:09:46.159 --> 01:09:51.359 until we had a ship that was thoroughly analyzed. And when I say that, 804 01:09:51.840 --> 01:09:57.359 it's like the ship lands. We get credible photography, we get video. 805 01:09:58.840 --> 01:10:00.800 A being comes out and says, yes, I'm from this planet and 806 01:10:00.840 --> 01:10:05.880 by the way, uh welcome to the Federation or welcome. We want you 807 01:10:05.960 --> 01:10:09.800 to know that Earth is part of this group and that group. That's what 808 01:10:09.920 --> 01:10:14.600 I want. And it's like, do I have to wait another lifetime for 809 01:10:14.640 --> 01:10:17.920 this to happen? And I don't know if I think I think we're beyond 810 01:10:18.640 --> 01:10:24.399 simple sightings. I think at some point they lay the golden egg and say, 811 01:10:24.439 --> 01:10:29.880 okay, hello, this time in our history, we're going to show 812 01:10:29.920 --> 01:10:35.479 ourselves and by the way, welcome to the Federation planets. What do you 813 01:10:35.520 --> 01:10:39.239 say about that? Am I? Am I off the my off guard? 814 01:10:39.279 --> 01:10:44.560 On that? Am I off the off my nut? I think I think 815 01:10:44.600 --> 01:10:48.640 you and a whole lot of people are at that that point. And uh 816 01:10:48.760 --> 01:10:53.640 so you're you're the senior in high school and we still got the freshman who 817 01:10:53.680 --> 01:10:57.439 needs to, you know, come along and learn a little bit more before 818 01:10:57.640 --> 01:11:00.960 you know we graduate, but uh, and I think that's where we are 819 01:11:00.000 --> 01:11:04.000 there there, you know. So yeah, but I think that it's happening. 820 01:11:04.039 --> 01:11:09.479 I think it's going to happen sooner than we expect. And who knows. 821 01:11:09.640 --> 01:11:12.279 We we both hope it will happen in our lifetime, don't we, 822 01:11:12.600 --> 01:11:16.760 just like I assure do. Hey, let's talk about the Lyrens, l 823 01:11:16.920 --> 01:11:23.840 y r A n s uh, because that's featured prominently too. I mean, 824 01:11:23.880 --> 01:11:26.800 you have a number in the book. And for those of you listening 825 01:11:27.479 --> 01:11:33.880 again, she lists these individuals, these races of beings, what she knows 826 01:11:33.920 --> 01:11:40.479 from the interactions that Earthlings have had with them, and then lays out you 827 01:11:40.520 --> 01:11:45.439 know, where they come from, the length of life and some of their 828 01:11:46.560 --> 01:11:50.560 discussions. So give us some heads up on the Lyrens. Oh, the 829 01:11:50.640 --> 01:11:54.960 Lyrns. So you know, I have to grab my little handy Danny book 830 01:11:54.960 --> 01:11:59.000 here, Cliff, I apologize, audience. I never know which group is 831 01:11:59.039 --> 01:12:02.880 going to ask me about, but so I can tell you that the Lyrins 832 01:12:03.000 --> 01:12:10.079 are. They're one of the most famous groups. And they are well known 833 01:12:10.279 --> 01:12:18.199 because some of them look resemble h A fee line. Yeah, they resemble 834 01:12:18.239 --> 01:12:24.720 a fea line and they are one of the oldest groups in the galaxy. 835 01:12:25.920 --> 01:12:30.680 Let's see, and here I wrote that the Lyrins are a serene extraterrestrial race 836 01:12:30.079 --> 01:12:36.960 that originated in the Lyre constellation of Vega. Their lifespan, we don't know 837 01:12:38.039 --> 01:12:42.119 they are humanoid. But this is what really makes this is the fun part. 838 01:12:42.479 --> 01:12:46.800 The physical features the Lyrons that people are most aware of look similar to 839 01:12:46.840 --> 01:12:51.119 a cat. They have yellow, green or blue eyes with huge pupils. 840 01:12:51.560 --> 01:12:56.399 Their muzzles are short and round. Their ears look like those of lions on 841 01:12:56.479 --> 01:13:00.319 Earth. Uh, they are tall and slender. And for people who have 842 01:13:00.720 --> 01:13:06.479 encountered them or observed them, uh, they are quite flamboyant, some of 843 01:13:06.560 --> 01:13:14.920 them in their appearance, you know. And but there doesn't mean flamboyant. 844 01:13:15.680 --> 01:13:19.279 They like bright colors and oh, actually do wear some sort of clothing, 845 01:13:21.880 --> 01:13:26.560 you know. That's what I've been That's the information that I came across. 846 01:13:27.079 --> 01:13:31.239 They do have a tale and they had like ornate clothing. And you kind 847 01:13:31.239 --> 01:13:39.319 of wonder when you hear about these aliens with these feline descriptions, if they 848 01:13:39.439 --> 01:13:46.000 interacted with the pre Dynastic Egyptians, who feature felines in there as gods goddesses 849 01:13:46.880 --> 01:13:54.520 as important figures in their historical uh, descriptions of their beginnings, if they 850 01:13:54.720 --> 01:13:59.359 if these beings influenced them or not. You know, so they're they're apparently 851 01:13:59.479 --> 01:14:02.239 one of the oldest races that we know of in the universe. They've been 852 01:14:02.239 --> 01:14:05.159 around for a while and as far as the Egyptians go, you know, 853 01:14:05.199 --> 01:14:10.439 I did talk about them. They did have interactions with, you know, 854 01:14:10.640 --> 01:14:15.760 beings that looked like uh, that were humanoid, but that resembled some of 855 01:14:15.039 --> 01:14:20.800 you know, well, we know that the jackal and the bird and the 856 01:14:21.319 --> 01:14:29.319 felines, those are thought to have been encounters that they had with extraterrestrial beings 857 01:14:29.319 --> 01:14:32.880 that were on Earth that were humanoid. Those were not figures that they just 858 01:14:33.039 --> 01:14:35.319 carved out and said, oh, we're going to put a head on a 859 01:14:35.359 --> 01:14:42.000 body. The idea is that that they were encountering these beings and these these 860 01:14:42.000 --> 01:14:45.600 beings were were living among them, and they were huge, some of them. 861 01:14:45.119 --> 01:14:50.640 But so the feline I believe did come from the you know, the 862 01:14:50.640 --> 01:14:57.439 inspiration of of of of a leron or lyron that came here. Fascinating. 863 01:14:57.760 --> 01:15:01.399 You know, It's funny because when we think of the Dynastic pre Dynastics and 864 01:15:01.479 --> 01:15:06.800 Dynastic Egyptians. We think of the Great Pyramid, and if you haven't seen 865 01:15:06.840 --> 01:15:12.840 it, it's a very complex building and it's huge, and there's other temples 866 01:15:12.840 --> 01:15:15.439 that are very, very advanced. You have to wonder, and this is 867 01:15:15.640 --> 01:15:19.399 you kind of bring this up in your book that some et technology, et 868 01:15:19.600 --> 01:15:28.399 science is behind some of these creations that these Egyptians adapted in their society and 869 01:15:28.439 --> 01:15:31.000 that's why they seem so out of place when we look at them from a 870 01:15:31.119 --> 01:15:38.560 historic perspective. Oh, Egypt was amazing. It was lit. It was 871 01:15:38.600 --> 01:15:43.159 not like when we picture Egypt we always, you know, think of the 872 01:15:43.560 --> 01:15:47.399 pyramids of sitting there in the dust and the brown and kind of it wasn't 873 01:15:47.439 --> 01:15:51.079 like that at all. This was a place that was lit up and it 874 01:15:51.199 --> 01:15:57.479 was busy and it was full of different types of beings and extraterrestrials and humans 875 01:15:57.600 --> 01:16:01.960 were walking around and they were interacting and they had they had electricity, they 876 01:16:01.960 --> 01:16:08.039 had you know, amazing technology. It's gone now it's gone, but you've 877 01:16:08.039 --> 01:16:13.960 got to we've got to see each of differently. Eachypt was obviously being run 878 01:16:14.119 --> 01:16:18.399 and you know, established by an extraterrestrial race. It was different than anything 879 01:16:18.439 --> 01:16:23.239 we've ever imagined. And in my book I talk about the electricity. I 880 01:16:23.239 --> 01:16:27.039 think that's fascinating, you know that they had that. So when you're looking, 881 01:16:27.359 --> 01:16:30.439 you're walking through ancient Egypt, you're not seeing necessarily sarily you know, 882 01:16:30.600 --> 01:16:36.880 fire on the walls of the temple, You're seeing a lit up place with 883 01:16:38.479 --> 01:16:43.880 beings that look we're all kind of like, you know, from the elongated 884 01:16:43.920 --> 01:16:48.800 skulls to the Lerian type to you know, I mean, it was nothing 885 01:16:48.840 --> 01:16:57.479 like we could ever have imagined. So it actually sounds wonderful. Yeah. 886 01:16:57.800 --> 01:17:00.840 Yeah, it's so far in advance, you know, we don't even know. 887 01:17:00.920 --> 01:17:04.760 We can't even guess because there's no written records of it. But it's 888 01:17:04.800 --> 01:17:09.560 definitely pre deluving, it feels like, because there's so much that happened, 889 01:17:09.600 --> 01:17:16.359 and then the Pharaohs were the remains of these great societies, and it's just 890 01:17:16.439 --> 01:17:20.119 amazing. Hey, as we conclude, and by the way, the book 891 01:17:20.159 --> 01:17:26.960 we're talking about today is Earth's galactic history and its extraterrestrial connection, my guess 892 01:17:27.079 --> 01:17:31.760 is constant Victoria Briggs Constance. You have a wonderful section in the book. 893 01:17:31.840 --> 01:17:42.039 It's one of the closer to the ends called Extraordinary Experiences in Space, and 894 01:17:42.079 --> 01:17:45.399 I want you to talk a little bit about the number of astronauts, and 895 01:17:45.439 --> 01:17:50.600 we've had a few on our show here, most notably kN Johnston, who 896 01:17:51.079 --> 01:18:00.840 was very much a part of the Apollo mission and actually analyzed the film and 897 01:18:00.079 --> 01:18:06.680 many of the broadcasts and kept them from being destroyed. But what do we 898 01:18:06.720 --> 01:18:16.119 know about et UFO interactions in the Apollo missions. Yeah, So if you 899 01:18:16.279 --> 01:18:20.479 just want to focus on the Apollo missions, because I did focus on other 900 01:18:20.880 --> 01:18:27.560 there's some interesting stories outside of those, But the Apollo missions. We have 901 01:18:27.800 --> 01:18:35.720 the very famous story of Apollo eleven, who were was the first U mission 902 01:18:35.760 --> 01:18:40.000 to landman on the Moon. That is I think the one that stands out 903 01:18:40.000 --> 01:18:44.279 the most because it was up in the air for years whether or not they 904 01:18:44.319 --> 01:18:47.520 saw something or didn't see something on the Moon. Well, you know, 905 01:18:47.800 --> 01:18:54.279 to make a long story short, when they landed, they saw extraterrestrial ships 906 01:18:54.319 --> 01:18:59.640 sitting on the crater, and they went on a secure line and told UH 907 01:18:59.680 --> 01:19:04.319 mission control what they were seeing. Now, I've never seen a description of 908 01:19:04.359 --> 01:19:10.239 what they saw. Some people suspect that they were let reptilian, others suspect 909 01:19:10.279 --> 01:19:14.560 that they were the Grace. We don't know. We have ideas of my 910 01:19:14.640 --> 01:19:17.199 moonment. In my moon book, The Moon Scalactic History, I did put 911 01:19:17.239 --> 01:19:20.560 speculation of who it may have been, whether it was that story true or 912 01:19:20.600 --> 01:19:26.199 not. Yes, there was a gentleman that came forward. His name was 913 01:19:26.279 --> 01:19:31.560 Christopher Kraft. He was known as the father of Michigan Control because he started 914 01:19:31.560 --> 01:19:35.880 it. He worked very closely with all of the missions. And he said 915 01:19:35.880 --> 01:19:41.359 that this happened. Really they did. Yeah, he said that they did 916 01:19:41.520 --> 01:19:45.239 see it. That's what happened. They did encounter it. Now that is 917 01:19:45.279 --> 01:19:48.000 not something that your next door neighbor is going to know, right, yeah, 918 01:19:48.159 --> 01:19:51.920 right. So when I talked about people learning and you know, having 919 01:19:53.000 --> 01:19:56.640 discussions, these things need to be talked about and come out so we can 920 01:19:56.680 --> 01:20:00.399 get someone right. So he said that this did happen and leave it. 921 01:20:01.560 --> 01:20:04.960 There's a wonderful journalist. I'm sure you've met her. Her name is Linda 922 01:20:04.960 --> 01:20:13.399 Moulton Howe. He was able to talk to Neil Armstrong's best friend and she 923 01:20:13.479 --> 01:20:16.800 did a report on it, and she said that the best friend told I 924 01:20:16.960 --> 01:20:20.880 was told by Neil Armstrong that as they were flying the Apollo leven In, 925 01:20:21.359 --> 01:20:26.399 you know, there was a kind of a moment where they had to turn 926 01:20:27.359 --> 01:20:31.119 because they were seeing craft and coming down. Well, as they were coming 927 01:20:31.159 --> 01:20:34.039 down, they could see the craft, but they didn't want to show the 928 01:20:34.079 --> 01:20:39.640 audience, so they kind of turned so that it wasn't shown. Yeah, 929 01:20:39.680 --> 01:20:45.520 coming down to land on the Moon or coming out as the Apollo astronauts were 930 01:20:45.560 --> 01:20:47.960 coming down to land on the Moon, they saw that, they saw those 931 01:20:48.039 --> 01:20:50.720 lights, they saw the craft and they had to land of course, and 932 01:20:50.760 --> 01:20:56.039 they turned so we wouldn't see it. So that's another corroboration, you know, 933 01:20:57.000 --> 01:21:01.119 by someone who had you know, that information. So there are beings 934 01:21:01.159 --> 01:21:04.000 out there. There is someone on the Moon. We don't know, like 935 01:21:04.039 --> 01:21:06.479 I said, who they are. It could be more than one group. 936 01:21:06.600 --> 01:21:11.199 There could be people that came in to when the moon came in. That's 937 01:21:11.199 --> 01:21:14.119 a whole other story. We did a show on that. But there's someone 938 01:21:14.159 --> 01:21:19.439 there. And those were what those two men encountered while they were on the 939 01:21:19.479 --> 01:21:25.119 Moon. After that, the other Apollo miicians, I don't have any information 940 01:21:25.319 --> 01:21:28.520 of them seeing beings. That doesn't mean it didn't happen. It just means 941 01:21:28.600 --> 01:21:30.960 I don't have it. It may have been covered up. But we do 942 01:21:31.039 --> 01:21:36.880 have photographs that were not erased of strange lights around the astronauts. We have 943 01:21:38.119 --> 01:21:43.880 photographs of pyramids, We have what looks like blue probes around some of the 944 01:21:43.920 --> 01:21:46.840 astronauts that they were on the surface. We have all kinds of evidence that 945 01:21:46.920 --> 01:21:54.119 there was someone up there with them. Wow. The book that chapter, 946 01:21:54.119 --> 01:21:57.720 I should say, covers a lot about space. Give us an example of 947 01:21:59.560 --> 01:22:09.119 a real prominent and outstanding interaction. So forgive me if I can't remember the 948 01:22:09.199 --> 01:22:13.560 space shuttle name it is, I'd have to go in the book and look, 949 01:22:13.600 --> 01:22:18.199 there's so many space shuttles. Right. There was an astronaut that came 950 01:22:18.279 --> 01:22:26.000 forward, and I apologize for not remembering the name. He said he saw 951 01:22:27.800 --> 01:22:33.439 in the cargo area of the shuttle one of the astronauts having a conversation with 952 01:22:33.520 --> 01:22:40.319 an extraterrestrial. And he said that this extraterrestrial was very tall, and it 953 01:22:40.439 --> 01:22:44.520 was suited, all right. It was it had on some sort of space 954 01:22:44.600 --> 01:22:49.039 suit, and apparently he didn't know he was being observed. And he said 955 01:22:49.680 --> 01:22:57.720 that it looked like the extraterrestrial was the dominant person in this conversation, all 956 01:22:57.800 --> 01:23:02.640 right. And he came back and he told it it's there, it's out 957 01:23:02.640 --> 01:23:04.760 there, the story's out there. His name is out there, and I'd 958 01:23:04.760 --> 01:23:09.399 have to go in the book. There so many astronauts going through a minute, 959 01:23:09.479 --> 01:23:14.000 if the shuttle opened its cargo bay, it's releasing a satellite or a 960 01:23:14.039 --> 01:23:18.359 piece of equipment. So the et was was there his ship close by? 961 01:23:19.319 --> 01:23:25.239 Or did he just appear in the cargo bay to speak to one of the 962 01:23:25.279 --> 01:23:29.760 team members who were out there. We don't know. I don't know, 963 01:23:30.359 --> 01:23:33.239 but my impression is that he was already there. That's my impression. Wow. 964 01:23:33.279 --> 01:23:38.520 But I don't have all of those details, but I do have the 965 01:23:39.479 --> 01:23:42.439 I apologize Cliff, I just don't remember the name. That's just one of 966 01:23:43.239 --> 01:23:46.079 the stories. That's what he said. And you know, you can also 967 01:23:46.680 --> 01:23:51.239 google him or look the book. But yeh, that's that's a story. 968 01:23:51.439 --> 01:23:55.039 And you know, I don't like to think that the astronauts are lying to 969 01:23:55.119 --> 01:23:58.880 us, you know, what's the point of that. But that is one 970 01:23:58.880 --> 01:24:03.760 of my favorites, which tell me that there is something going on with extraterrestrials 971 01:24:03.960 --> 01:24:10.760 in our astronauts. So was there any what was the conversation with this tall 972 01:24:11.239 --> 01:24:17.319 E T and the US astronaut of the shuttle? What was what was You 973 01:24:17.359 --> 01:24:21.439 didn't get that he didn't he didn't he didn't say who saw them, the 974 01:24:21.439 --> 01:24:27.439 guys that were working the arm or this is just the astronaut. Just the 975 01:24:27.560 --> 01:24:30.119 astronaut. Don't know why he was back there, don't know why he saw 976 01:24:30.159 --> 01:24:33.680 it, but that's what he came forward and said. You know, I 977 01:24:33.680 --> 01:24:38.479 don't. I mean, it's funny that that kind of stuff doesn't get out 978 01:24:38.479 --> 01:24:44.039 to a wider audience, because it would sure make our space program fly. 979 01:24:44.399 --> 01:24:46.039 People would be much more Hey, when are we going to see the next 980 01:24:46.039 --> 01:24:49.079 ship? Hey? When are we going to meet with the people from this 981 01:24:49.119 --> 01:24:54.880 planet? Hey? It would change our whole perspective. That's why I'm writing 982 01:24:54.960 --> 01:24:59.119 the books, you know, because I think we need to be talking about 983 01:24:59.159 --> 01:25:03.239 it. And you know, who's going to walk around except a researcher digging 984 01:25:03.319 --> 01:25:12.279 for that information. Yeah, right right. So as we close Constance, 985 01:25:12.439 --> 01:25:18.079 what what is exciting what's coming up for you after writing this book? And 986 01:25:18.439 --> 01:25:23.279 obviously we wanted to get out to as many people as possible. Your books 987 01:25:23.319 --> 01:25:27.079 on available on Amazon and so forth. Just came out a month or two 988 01:25:27.119 --> 01:25:31.039 ago. But what's what's coming up after your book's done? What? What 989 01:25:31.039 --> 01:25:36.199 what are you excited about in the whole phenomenon in the phenomenon, not my 990 01:25:36.239 --> 01:25:45.520 life, EPs UFOs u aps. I'm waiting, you know, like everybody. 991 01:25:45.560 --> 01:25:49.279 I'm waiting to see what's going to happen. I'm waiting for the big 992 01:25:49.319 --> 01:25:55.960 announcement. I'm watching the hearings to see if anything comes, you know, 993 01:25:56.039 --> 01:25:59.239 does come out from the government. If they do make an announcement, I 994 01:25:59.239 --> 01:26:03.760 think that that's what next, either them or the extraterrestrials themselves. And I 995 01:26:03.800 --> 01:26:09.720 do believe that we are living. I believe that there are extraterrestrials walking and 996 01:26:09.800 --> 01:26:15.680 living among us incognito, and I think they're observing us, and I think 997 01:26:15.680 --> 01:26:17.840 that they're reporting back, and I think that they're waiting for a time. 998 01:26:18.079 --> 01:26:23.560 So I, just like you, am waiting for that announcement. Maybe we 999 01:26:23.760 --> 01:26:28.199 will pass away before it ever happens, and we'll have to recarnate, reincarnate 1000 01:26:28.239 --> 01:26:33.159 back here Cliff to see it. But that's what I would like, I 1001 01:26:33.520 --> 01:26:38.079 hope. I'm answering your question. I think we kind of went there. 1002 01:26:38.359 --> 01:26:41.920 I think I guess if I were to ask you, you're keeping your hand 1003 01:26:41.960 --> 01:26:44.840 on this whole thing. Before we started, we were talking about this news 1004 01:26:44.880 --> 01:26:51.000 sighting, this jellyfish UAP that was filmed using military cameras. In twenty eighteen, 1005 01:26:51.199 --> 01:26:57.079 it was filmed in Iraq. That's kind of cool. But again it's 1006 01:26:57.119 --> 01:27:00.760 like imaging and it's like, Okay, that's nice. Else, I mean, 1007 01:27:00.800 --> 01:27:06.399 the next the next step would be the guy lands, the ship walks, 1008 01:27:06.399 --> 01:27:10.880 somebody comes out and says, hey, what's going on? Wouldn't that 1009 01:27:10.960 --> 01:27:14.800 be nice? That would be nice. If people believed it, they'll probably 1010 01:27:14.840 --> 01:27:20.560 say it cgi oh yeah, every resort, Yeah, happen. They're making 1011 01:27:20.640 --> 01:27:24.159 that up. No, that would be Seriously, that would be nice. 1012 01:27:24.600 --> 01:27:27.880 That would be great, And I'm hoping for that to happen soon. And 1013 01:27:27.920 --> 01:27:30.560 you know, there is a rumor that something like that has already happened, 1014 01:27:30.560 --> 01:27:33.560 but they didn't take that seriously either. There was a report of a guy 1015 01:27:33.920 --> 01:27:38.079 I think his name is Faldore working in the White House. He landed in 1016 01:27:38.159 --> 01:27:43.479 Virginia in the Alexandria area years ago. He's a Caucasian alien, and he 1017 01:27:43.560 --> 01:27:47.640 was Yeah, you see pictures of that guy, but who knows? That 1018 01:27:47.840 --> 01:27:54.079 wasn't that was the one story. It reminded me of that. But no, 1019 01:27:54.199 --> 01:27:58.439 seriously, that's what I'm looking for. But in the meantime, I 1020 01:27:58.479 --> 01:28:03.279 would like to see more our people having conversations about this, getting the message 1021 01:28:03.319 --> 01:28:06.840 out that we're not alone in the universe, we're not alone in the galaxy, 1022 01:28:08.439 --> 01:28:12.039 that we are a part of something more, and that something is coming, 1023 01:28:12.800 --> 01:28:15.399 and that we need to be talking about it, trying to figure it 1024 01:28:15.399 --> 01:28:18.880 out. Thig out of the box and you know, wind it down a 1025 01:28:18.920 --> 01:28:23.359 little, you know, grow up. You know. It's not being this 1026 01:28:23.720 --> 01:28:27.720 miserable. Uh, They's just we've done so many bad things to this planet. 1027 01:28:28.239 --> 01:28:32.039 There's so many terrible things going on. The extraterrestrials don't appreciate it because 1028 01:28:32.039 --> 01:28:35.840 they said it's like a domino effect if we set off weapons. They're talking 1029 01:28:35.840 --> 01:28:40.239 about World War three right now. You know, we set off weapons. 1030 01:28:40.479 --> 01:28:45.760 They're saying they're not going to stand for this. There's consequences. So we 1031 01:28:45.800 --> 01:28:47.319 need to be talking about it. We need to be working on those kinds 1032 01:28:47.359 --> 01:28:55.840 of things before they make the big announcement Earth galactic history and its extraterrestrial connection. 1033 01:28:56.039 --> 01:29:00.279 Constance Victoria Riggs has always been fun time talking with you. Give us 1034 01:29:00.319 --> 01:29:06.279 your website. How can people learn more about you? My website address is 1035 01:29:06.439 --> 01:29:13.039 Constance Victoria breaks dot com. You can shoot me an email from there. 1036 01:29:13.640 --> 01:29:17.319 I am all over Facebook. I'm putting up stuff all the time. I'm 1037 01:29:17.319 --> 01:29:20.840 a big Facebook person. I know that's old fashioned according to my kids, 1038 01:29:20.840 --> 01:29:26.199 but I'm there. I have a Moon Mysteries page, I have Constance Victoria 1039 01:29:26.239 --> 01:29:30.520 Breaks page. I am getting back on TikTok and you can look for me 1040 01:29:30.560 --> 01:29:33.439 there in a couple of days. Are you you have a schedule from twenty 1041 01:29:33.479 --> 01:29:36.640 twenty four. You're gonna be out there talking at any conferences you should be 1042 01:29:36.720 --> 01:29:42.600 if you're not, I'm not scheduled for any conferences as of yet. Are 1043 01:29:42.640 --> 01:29:45.720 your kids young that you can't leave the house, because sometimes that's okay. 1044 01:29:45.760 --> 01:29:49.800 They're old enough where you could have somebody the husband could watch as you do 1045 01:29:49.840 --> 01:29:54.680 a talk. You're down to think of it that with La or sus San 1046 01:29:54.680 --> 01:30:00.239 Diego, you could La is full of UFO contact in the desert kinds of 1047 01:30:00.279 --> 01:30:04.760 shows. Yeah, yeah, well we'll see, we'll see. Hey much 1048 01:30:04.800 --> 01:30:10.600 success on this. Thank you for spending some time on the program, and 1049 01:30:12.399 --> 01:30:15.520 I really appreciate it. Well, thank you for having me. I love 1050 01:30:15.920 --> 01:30:23.600 coming on and you're a great Hostcliff. I do hope that we will have 1051 01:30:23.760 --> 01:30:30.000 a contact scenario in my lifetime. I think it's time and I speak about 1052 01:30:30.000 --> 01:30:36.439 this all the time that as a Earth species, our evolution is here. 1053 01:30:36.840 --> 01:30:44.239 I think it when we meet another race from another planetary system, which is 1054 01:30:44.399 --> 01:30:48.920 very likely going to be significantly older than us by either several hundred or perhaps 1055 01:30:49.079 --> 01:30:58.119 several thousand years, we evolve as a civilization. We know we're not the 1056 01:30:58.159 --> 01:31:04.119 only ones in the cosm. We realize that we're not as scientifically advanced as 1057 01:31:04.159 --> 01:31:11.159 we think we are. Although we have a lot of achievements to applaud, 1058 01:31:11.199 --> 01:31:18.199 there's just you know, to connect with a species from another planet that is 1059 01:31:18.920 --> 01:31:27.520 traveling the cosmos has solved a variety of problems, you know. I mean. 1060 01:31:27.520 --> 01:31:29.840 One of the things I thought was kind of nice, and you can 1061 01:31:29.880 --> 01:31:34.079 see it in Constance's book is most of the races that are here that we 1062 01:31:34.159 --> 01:31:41.159 have some contact with, have long lifetimes, you know, three hundred I 1063 01:31:41.199 --> 01:31:44.960 think it was the minimum. Some of them have, you know, almost 1064 01:31:45.039 --> 01:31:50.880 a thousand years. But you have to imagine to get a lifetime that long, 1065 01:31:51.039 --> 01:31:57.920 you have to have special dietary considerations, you have to have a physiology 1066 01:31:57.960 --> 01:32:02.920 that's different. I think our lifestyle is detrimental for the most part. The 1067 01:32:02.920 --> 01:32:09.640 food we eat, lack of exercise, people sit on their can for most 1068 01:32:09.680 --> 01:32:14.319 of their life. You know. We have work situations where you can't help 1069 01:32:14.359 --> 01:32:17.560 it. You're in front of a monitor for hours at a time, and 1070 01:32:17.600 --> 01:32:20.720 you might get an hour exercise, and then you come home, you watch 1071 01:32:20.760 --> 01:32:24.520 some TV, have a bite to eat, go to sleep, wake up, 1072 01:32:24.520 --> 01:32:29.000 and do it all again. You know. And this is interesting because 1073 01:32:29.039 --> 01:32:32.199 there's a problem with excess weight in the United States. I was looking at 1074 01:32:32.199 --> 01:32:36.680 this the other day. The obesity index in a lot of these a lot 1075 01:32:36.720 --> 01:32:42.319 of states is huge. It's high. It's because we don't have a very 1076 01:32:42.319 --> 01:32:49.319 good lifestyle and we have sensory gratification issues. We want to watch TV, 1077 01:32:49.439 --> 01:32:53.359 we want to watch the movies, we want to see the streaming media, 1078 01:32:53.760 --> 01:32:57.760 and we want to feel good, so we'll eat sugary stuff. God, 1079 01:32:58.119 --> 01:33:03.600 I'm a big, big hey. I I'm right in there for twenty twenty 1080 01:33:03.600 --> 01:33:09.880 four, by the way, you guys, I'm on the treadmill and stationary 1081 01:33:09.880 --> 01:33:13.680 bike every single day. I gotta drop weight. I was looking at my 1082 01:33:13.760 --> 01:33:18.439 photographs from Mexico. I look sick. I look terrible. I look like 1083 01:33:19.359 --> 01:33:25.039 God. I don't want to describe it, but I'm not happy. So 1084 01:33:25.760 --> 01:33:32.760 but anyhow, my point being that when we connect with another race, we 1085 01:33:33.000 --> 01:33:40.920 evolve exponentially. We really do. And I think it's good for us too. 1086 01:33:41.600 --> 01:33:46.359 It may be that we'll have an intervention if this, if Russia gets 1087 01:33:46.359 --> 01:33:50.119 out of hand, or the China decides. I don't think Child's going to 1088 01:33:50.199 --> 01:33:54.800 do anything. They're having problems. In fact, the President was just here 1089 01:33:55.319 --> 01:34:00.760 mentioning that they're having economic issues and we're looking forward to working with you states. 1090 01:34:00.000 --> 01:34:05.119 They keep the money flowing to their country. They they we export or 1091 01:34:05.119 --> 01:34:09.119 they export a lot to us, and so we're paying a lot of money 1092 01:34:09.119 --> 01:34:12.800 to them. So I don't know. I don't know if it's gonna be 1093 01:34:12.880 --> 01:34:17.239 a war scenario where the Aliens show up, or just as a course of 1094 01:34:17.279 --> 01:34:20.640 action, you know, it's time to meet with the earthlings. Whatever, 1095 01:34:21.119 --> 01:34:26.560 whatever it is, it's gonna be very very important. Just close your eyes 1096 01:34:26.960 --> 01:34:33.159 sometime and think they've landed and they've met with our leaders, or they've met 1097 01:34:33.199 --> 01:34:40.319 with governor, or they've met with some important people. I don't know if 1098 01:34:40.319 --> 01:34:45.000 it's gonna be the scenario where they just meet average Joe and Jane could be 1099 01:34:45.159 --> 01:34:48.039 though, and then they report it. I don't know. I don't know. 1100 01:34:48.239 --> 01:34:51.479 All I know is that I want it to be in my lifetime that 1101 01:34:51.520 --> 01:34:58.600 we have disclosure. You know, every year I we sponsor the Contact in 1102 01:34:58.640 --> 01:35:01.720 the Desert and some other pro and they have all these people who have had 1103 01:35:01.880 --> 01:35:06.960 experiences and they've seen this, and they speculate. Wouldn't it be nice to 1104 01:35:08.000 --> 01:35:14.520 have Bob X from Planet Xton on the speaking circuit? I would love that. 1105 01:35:14.920 --> 01:35:19.640 Can you imagine an alien not too scary, a tall white or a 1106 01:35:19.680 --> 01:35:30.159 gray or somebody who was able to speak talk on a conference at a conference 1107 01:35:30.319 --> 01:35:32.720 scenario, I would love that. That would be right up my alley. 1108 01:35:32.720 --> 01:35:36.239 I guess who would be interviewing that guy? Huh? Guess who would be 1109 01:35:36.279 --> 01:35:43.800 first in line? Ah? Boy? Would I love that? So anyhow, 1110 01:35:43.920 --> 01:35:46.920 I hope you enjoyed that. That was kind of fun. If you're 1111 01:35:46.920 --> 01:35:53.720 a Joint Earth Ancients, please consider becoming a subscriber for as little as five 1112 01:35:53.800 --> 01:35:56.920 dollars a month. 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