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Well, hello and welcome. Thanks for getting your pot on, Thanks
for telling a friend. Oh what a show we got tonight, Danny,
Yeah, big one Bill former intern turned Big TV producer Alex is in studio.
Lots to talk about and catch up on with Alex Jamish and his back
see that did more on the street and actually uncovered a really inter resting thing
that I don't think he really been caught when the lady said it, but
I was like, wow, do you know what you did here? So
we'll get to that find Jimmy Hoffa No, no, but Danny, Yes,
Religion in the news today. Isn't it always more religion in the news
today. I'm assuming that's it's it's it's a religion you can make fun of.
No, okay, can you make fun of any religion? You shouldn't.
Spaghetti according to the Bible, Alex, No, yeah, that was
this spaghetti. I always always told that it was not supposed to poke fun
to anyone's religion. Read the Bible ten times through. Never read that never.
Maybe maybe it's on the Maccabees, a Catholic version. I don't feel
you might have fallen asleep in that part of it. Okay, I might
have loved you. No. Uh. Did you hear about the woman?
Yeah, who stole sixty thousand dollars from a ninety year old I heard about
this. The question is did she give her six thousand to Jesus? Well,
I don't know. That would be tithing and that would be ten percent.
That's a great question. Uh, this woman, though, I am
percent. This lady. Your name is Alpha Alpha D Harris. She's sixty.
Uh. She is a minister at the Powerhouse Kingdom Cathedral Church of God
in Christ. Was Harris is a minister at the past Let me say that
again, Powerhouse, Kingdom Cathedral, Church of God in Christ. That's a
lot going on there. Wow of God in Christ. The Powerhouse compels you.
How long do you think the services of that church? Oh, my
gosh, I'll probably go to two three o'clock in the afternoon. That's probably
the ones on TV on the public as excess channel where you get the lady,
you know, Hallelujah staring at the stir of the window with her arms.
That's what I mean, praisey Jesus. Now now that's not can fund
to tell you right now. No, no, I could say that.
Okay, I used to belong to a church like that. All right.
Um. I did talk to the Monroe County Sheriff's office today to say,
what, you know, what really wanted will be her omega will be the
omega, the alpha and the omega. What's your omega game? That name
beginning in the end. Yes, she uh, she's the beginning for alpha
alpha female. She uh. So Here's what Deputy Hurley told me earlier today
about this case. Actually how it how it all kind of went down.
Yeah, so this was actually a very switched on bank employee who happened to
notice some suspicious activity on the victim's account, made the right decision to notify
authorities, got us involved. The deputies went out, they checked on the
welfare of the victim, started talking with the victim and her power of attorney
to find out what was going on. We have the luxury here to have
a group of environmental crimes investigators. That's all they do. They look into
financial crimes and in those kinds of situations, so they actually have the time
to really dig into a case like this where you're looking through bank records and
something that's going on for months at a time, not just you know,
a day or two, So they actually have the time to sit down and
go through all this, look through it, and you know, they discovered
that what this person was doing essentially was having the victims signed checks and then
filling out the checks for the victim that end incorrect amount. Right, They
had an agreed upon rate for the home healthcare. And this is this is
what makes this one so disturbing, right, because you had a home health
aid, which means you need help taking care of yourself. We don't to
whatever extent that may be. But you're trusting this person, so you're she
nick him. I'm told they had a hard time writing and would simply sign
the checks and then the home healthy would fill them out to whatever amount she
wanted to. Yeah, wow, said have some more healing oil of the
spirit. Can you believe that? Wow? They had forensic accountants working out
of this. Well, somehow somebody at the bank goes man. There's a
little bit of suspicious activity here. I know she's a ninety year old lady.
Maybe I haven't seen her in a while. She bought an acre more
money's gonnaut sixty grand, so she's writing the checkout for herself. And I
always say in these cases, you get greedy, all right. You know,
you start with maybe I don't know, five hundred dollars more than they
agreed upon amount, and it's a thousand, and you know this had to
go on for a while to add up to sixty thousand, because you're not
taking sixty thousand or even ten thousand. Yeah, it's always a little bit
of time. You don't want like the person because she's tellably one of these
old ladies that like has a ledger right, no, the exact yeah salar
amount in her bank account. She may not because she she can't write as
well anymore, so she maybe trusting others to do it. Maybe, yeah,
you know, and that's what she's probably going through, like because so
but knows well enough that like if she wrote a sixty thousand dollars checks,
you know, the boddy be gone, yes, all right, right,
right, right, right, or at least her bank would be like,
yo, you a check for sixty thousand or have you lost your man?
It had to be going you have to think it had to be going up
incrementally for the bank person to catch on to this. Yeah, like if
I if I like cross state lines and use by credit card. Oh,
mister Brello, did you did you buy twenty eight dollars worth of gas at
Bjre's right here? But here who's writing checks? But a ninety year old?
Of course? You know what I mean. You're hind him atmans A.
Dude, it's the worst. Now, the Monroe County Sheriff's Office offers
something for people in case something like this happens, and if you have an
older parent and a grandparent or somebody that you would hate to see, take
an advantage of. So the Sheriff's Office here in Monroe County, we have
several different programs that we provide our excellent community engagement deputies. We have one
at each zone and have a couple that are based out of downtown here.
There's different You know, people think of senior scams, right, and I
was like to say it, it's just scams in general, because you don't
have to be an older person to fall for a scam. Right, it's
one of the oldest professions in the world, is you know, scams,
and so we offer preventative crime prevention tips, right, what to do if
you think you're being scammed, how not to get scammed if you if you
have been scammed, what to do? You know, stuff like that,
What are you laughing at? Don't run for president. I think it added
up to sixty thousand because they were like, Okay, they're not catching on
to this much. Let me try this much. But I still not catching
on. Let me do this much. I think it's somebody who knew what
they were doing, and I think they were You might start by taking a
couple hundred over and that didn't stop. So she did a direct check of
sixty grand. Like no, no, no. It was like so in
other words, I come in and you're you're paying me. Let's say it's
uh fifteen hundred dollars for the month, and then you say, I can't
write the check. I'm just gonna sign it. You filled out fifteen hundred,
so you write it for seventeen hundred and you keep two hundred for yourself.
And the next time it's eighteen, and the next time it's two thousand.
I got security. So at some point it accumulated up, and then
finally, at some point she got a sixty grand check. No no,
no, no, no, this over stole sixty grand total total in total
of all the checks. Yeah, no, there you got it. That's
good. That's the prices showcase showdown on prices, right, it is actual
retail price. So what happens to this lady? Oh gosh, and her
church. Okay, her not the ninety year old. The ninety year old
I didn't get they could do a go fund me. She would probably have
been Omega in her own church. Yeah, but usually, like a lot
of times, if you're the pastor, you might be the treasurer too.
No, but okay, all right, but here's the thing. Let's say
she's not what is the one thing that Christians are supposed to do forgive?
Yes, supposed to forgive? Yes? So will she be forgiven? She
could be forgiven? Mean that she should be the leader of the church.
You know what I'm saying. It's like it's like, yes, there's forgiveness
and stuff, but they're still like, you still committed to Chris. What
if she stood up when they have the prayer request or someone to someone who
goes with her, stands up and says, can you pray for Alpha?
Yeah? For Alpha was a thief. Mother Alpha, she took a turn
to the evil, to the dark side, and now we need to pray,
maybe lay hands, maybe lay her hands to bring her back to the
light. I think, depending on the church, yeah, they would do
that. I think you're right. They would think. If she comes forward
and it's like I feel very genuine about this, I'm sorry I did this,
and you know, please forgive me for my sins. I think those
people in the church would be like, you know what, j Yeah,
they must forgive her. However, that doesn't mean they must restore her job.
Will we forgive you? But you got some of that money left?
Are you gonna run me some of that? It'll cost you a little bit
for me to forgive Javison. That's good, that's good, Javidson. Uh.
While somebody did make a comment on one of the local news channels,
oh, too many people take advantage of elderly who are sick or mentally impaired.
That was definitely the person who scam though I strongly feel that someone who
does such a crime should be put for public viewing for an entire year,
on display in a bulletproof plexiglass box, and payback four times what they stole.
I agree, Hunter Biden should be on display. So what kind of
punishment should we have for for things like this, things like public shaming?
Well, I mean, would that help a little bit? You know a
lot of people go, well, you can't shame and you shouldn't fat me.
You know, I actually agree with that. I have said, I
have said a little bit of shame that's not so bad. Kind of keeps
society think. I think I think we need to bring back a little bit.
Remember like twenty years ago, fat shamed over the weekend. No stealing
from no stealing. You're right, that is a crime. That is a
crime. But I got I'll just say, just in terms of what shame
does, right, I got a little fat chame and I have since the
weekend. I'm down at least five. Yeah, I'm down seven right now.
My My wife, ice cream shave me, shame me, she did.
Yeah see, ye see, a little shaming work. But that let's
take it to the crime world said it wasn't. I mean, you know,
fat chaming is not a crime. This is a crime. But I
mean, what what is this woman gonna have to do? What we can?
We shouldn't be putting her in jail. The sixty year old why for?
What for stealing six to get up from an old person? But here's
the thing we gotta set. I don't want to be to set the example
guy. But she took full advantage. It's like, we bitch about these
kids stealing kids, get back on this m in and we don't. We
have overcrowding in jails already, right, the only good Yeah, but we
don't have enough room. We don't. We don't have room. So so
let's say we need to do something else. What would be an alternative?
I kind of like, I kind of like the sandwich board. Oh well,
you know, yeah, I hate it that when parents did it to
the kids, that I hate. But when he actually committed a crime,
it would be great if we could have you go to every suburb around whatever
city you committed the crime in You've got to do a day in the suburb
in the plexi glass box, so like, you know, shit, that
would be funny. Yeah, it would be like, let's say they stole
hypothetically from like a Dick Sporting goods, right, and you put him in
the plexiglass box. They have to hold up a sign this as I stole
from Dick Sporting Goods. But like the words are spelled out, but like
the word I, you know, stole dicks, or you could put from
in like tiny letters in other words, like it really embarrassed them, you
know, And well, yeah, because if we're look, if we got
a public if we're gonna publicly shaven, let's do it right, Let's get
our money's worth here. There was a judge that did that about twenty years
ago, that was and he he got a lot of flak for it,
but it prevented people. I'm doing stuff. I think there was a sheriff
in Arizona. They used to have people who committed crimes wear a pink jumpsuit
and they had to go out something like something like yeah it was in Arizona,
and Arizona out there. Yeah. DMX is actually infamously known for being
out in the pink jumpsuits. I was on a producing a reality show where
I picked somebody up from that jail. You did, I did, Wait
a second, what was the reality show? Black Ink crew on pH one.
Okay, yes, one of our cast members and ran from the law
for a little too long and ended up having to serve some time. So
when she was done, we went and picked her up and up. Yeah
she was living in tents outside in a pink jumpsuit. Wow, wow,
working in the sunshine in the Arizona heat. And yeah, I think he
made all the prisoners wear pink jumpsuits. It's a dry heat and he doesn't
know which is worse. You know what it does to food? It bakes,
Yeah, it does. It literally bakes. Make sure at least you
get a little bit, you know on the oven is uh remember that kid
um? I think I forgot maybe I forgot what name was the caning they
wanted to Singapore. He was spray painting cars like I was like thirteen,
fourteen years old. He was spraying painting cars, and so they please market
Singapore. Yes, yeah, yeah, And he got his canings reduced from
six to four canings, right, and people are like, should we bring
Canning to the United States? Got like two weeks of shows out of that.
Yes you cane. Those Kia boys, yeah, all have your keyas
bad. Yeah, Canning for kids. I mean imagine that, Jameson.
Honestly, like, you steal a Kia and someone's like, your punishment is
public caning, which means they're gonna whip you with a bamboos with a bamboo
stick. With a bamboo stick, I mean, they beat you with a
bamboosterbo would you no, But that's not that, that's not it. They
caught you and now they're gonna bring you to the public square right here,
right along the canal. Everybody can come out. Ults are pulling up,
people see you, ringing bells. Shame with a shame beat a bunch of
cars in the canal. It would be terrible. Yeah, those kids.
I think maybe this lady should get caned. Oh first she brings up forgiveness.
Yeah, and then she brings up cane. I don't go to this
ladies church. That's what I'm saying. The church within the church. Yeah
right, yeah. By the way, separation of church and state. Yeah,
when is the crime? You know? Church? You know, they
definitely need to at least they got sopped up. Your parish can forgive you,
but the state doesn't. Yeah. Yeah, you stole from a ninety
year old woman who couldn't help herself. Right, that's awful. And there's
a reason, Like you think about this, like she had she was a
home health aid, which this lady wanted to trusted in her home, which
means she trusted to have somebody in her house. Like, I mean,
what was next, she was gonna kill her? I have her put her
in her will. Think about that. I've been listening to far too much
Dayline. It's a possibility. Yeah, yeah, really, my wife watches
all those shows too. Their podcast is basically just like a kind of a
rehash of their shows, but they're kind of quick episodes like half an hour,
and man, it's always the husband a hundred percent of the time.
And you know, it's stuff like that, Like you know that you get
a caregiver and all of a sudden, everything so well, and she was
a best family friend and before you know it, she's stolen the whole family
jewels, and she's locked the family out of the apartment, and she's killed
the cats, and like it's a full things of attorney. Yeah, it's
nut. There was a case of a lady on the Upper West Side who
was like had it in home caregiver and she passed away and the caregivers like,
well, this is a rent control department on the Upper West Side,
I'm staying. Yeah, basically double middle fingers to the family, and they
cannot they can't a victor out really, maybe that's what Doug felt. Possessions
with all the woman's stuff, Why can't they get her out because she wasn't
was she in the will? No, but she was like she was staying
there and there's like squatters r s Watter's rights or something, and she was
the main caregiver of the home and she had mail coming there or something.
So that's your residence. Yeah, it takes a lot for a landlord.
Actually, Like renters kind of have the ball in their court most of the
time because it takes a lot. Could you wake up and walk around knowing
what the fuck? Did you know? What I mean? Like I just
wouldn't. Yeah, don't you have a little bit of like conscious wouldn't you
feel uncomfortable a little bit? Yeah? But these people don't see it that
way. They think that they're good people. Yeah, look at Al Capolla,
I'm a good guy. Mobsters, Oh good, I'm just taking care
of my family. Well, the key boys, they feel like they're good
guys. I did see on Reddit this written by somebody says, driving on
Goodman, see a Honda coming up behind me, trying to pass on the
left. Now, if you're on Goodman, it's it's really depending on where
you are. It's just two lanes. You can't do that. Even though
there were it's tons of oncoming traffic and no room to pass. The Hundai
squeezed through the gap that didn't exist, causing both lanes of traffic to swerve
out of the way and almost crashed. Ten seconds later, police cruisers come
chasing, going very fast during probables. But they're saying probably sixty to eighty
miles per hour down Goodman with their lights on. I wonder if they caught
the guy wanted to find out, but they were gone by the time I'd
reached the next light. The whole situation is fucked, is what they right,
And it is because someone's gonna get killed, some innocent persons, someone
not involved in the crime, is going to get killed. But Jamison did
go out documentary on YouTube this guy and goes because he's from Milwaukee. He
goes to the Milwaukee neighborhood and interviews Kio Boys, Keel boys. One of
the Kyoboys where twelve jumped out of the car after just leaving it in the
middle of the road and gotten on the interview. He did, Yeah,
they're like twelve. They ran from twelve to at the oldest like sixteen or
fifteen. But there's like eleven year olds and ten year old there was some
in New York City and eight year olds. Stole a hun die and an
eight year old eight year old in the back of the ten year old job.
I'd like the interview sounds like it would be interesting. I can send
you the link. It's yeah, it's a whole it's literally a doc it's
not a documentary. This guy his name's uh, but it doesn't matter,
right. He so and what does he do? He goes and just talk.
He tracked down these Keya Boys and talk to them. Yeah, he
was on the news for it. Is it Kia boys like a thing around
here or yea social media thing. It's like a social media thing. So
I think it's gone. If you're stealing, you're part of the key of
Boys. Okay, the franchise, they franchise, they've got Rochester great started.
Is this it? Jamison? See if you can connect to Uh see
if you can connect to the bluetooth here, and let's see if we can
play a little bit of this. Le'll just play a little bit. Yeah,
are you connect? See? It's called the Look at Tommy G Kia
Boys documentary. Look at look at your bluetooth to see if it's connect.
Ok, I'm sorry, all right now to connect it? Pops up?
Are you good? Let's see what we got here? All right, it's
connected? Okay, Well, first an ad, could you show us well
how it looks to steal a car? Car? What your guys, That's
what I'm gonna do real quick. All right, now we're good to go.
And they have the key Boy dance. Hello everybody, my name is
Tommy G. And today I'm going boots on the ground cover a notorious group
of kids, the Keya Boys. These kids are legendary for the amount of
cars they are stealing. Him. Did you fast forward? Did you well?
I wanted to hear what he was gonna say. I drove on a
school campus swerving. Yeah, well they did that here too. They did
that here at East High They went driving right no, down on the grass.
The grass sent me all right, don't don't do anymore. I wanted
to hear that guy. You're you're bouncing all over. But that's all right?
What is this him again? Let's roll the tape so I could tell
you what they do. Bro, Look at these dumb Ska boys. Oh
my god, what are they doing? I caring in it out of traffic
against the flow? Wow? Does he interview these kids at all? That
car right there? Yeah, they didn't get hurt. They just jumped right
out the car and let it crashed. Wow, and let the car crash.
The car down to the tires is what the roof went to, and
they jumped out. I don't know if they died or jumped that. They
hit a car, swerved and jumped out before it all right, We'll go
through that at some point and grab the actual interview. Leave everybody. Well,
I don't want to be skipping around here. No, the world missed
up. What percentage of Kia boy stays trapped when they ride around town?
I go at least sixty percent? Oh it got good. Do your mom's
know that you do this? She know I gotta for that ship. I
got a case for. What does she say? Does she tell you,
like, hey, you guys can't be doing this. She tell me not
to do it. I'll be listening to her. Two people. I don't
could know this either, y'all. I tried to stop it. So,
yeah, what's your advice to these young guns out here? Man? Stop
doing that shit, pick a bag up, wind your lines up, you
buy your own car. The people are stealing cars as kids. So they
get a slap on the wrist and get word right out. What our big
dog? How you doing? You got the cardiers looking fresh man? Well,
I'll go through the audio at some other point, but that that's interesting
because what the kids saying is, my mom knows I have a case,
but the case means he's going before a judge in court. Yeah, I
know it's a misdemeanor, but that's it. So Jamison went out on the
street today and he was asking questions and things, but listen to this.
He had a conversation. He asked, if your kid was a keya boy,
what would you do if a keya boy was your son? What would
you tell them? If a kia if a keya boy, have you heard
of them yet? You are going around in the cars and a keyboard of
the fence and kicked his eyes all right, what would you tell him?
Though? So, oh yeah, listen to this this one lady, this
other lady's gonna jump in. Listen to what she says. Advice for an
ambe he'll end up in jail, definitely, it's but it's sad. It's
only a misdemeaning. So they're just coming back about two days but can get
out and it's like a twenty maybe two months or all of their Yeah,
but what we'll think, what we're wondering is what would you do, Like
if you owned a Kya, what forrecautions would you take? Man, Well,
I just latched someone. My daughter lives in the city and touching trying
for a place that heil was stolen. And this poor guy he was taking
his scannery out of this car at night and bringing it in the apartment and
coming back every day. I'm reading it and that's sad. And he felt
fortunate because it was stolen and was in trap. Did you hear that this
guy who lives in the city of Rochester has a Kia and every night he
would take the fucking battery of the car out and then before he went to
work, he'd put it back in. And he felt fortunate because they tried
to steal it. The battery, they can't start it, so they just
just kind of damaged it inside. And he felt fortunate. And this is
happening because you can literally pop the top off certain models. Yes, you
can pop the steering column. You'd take a screwdriver, you pop out the
key, ignition doesn't matter, and then you plug it in and it just
turns and goes. Kia taking any responsibility is I mean, they're they're trying,
and Hundai too in certain models, and they've offered I think they've they've
sent the club to people, so the steering wheel can't be driven and all
that, and I think there but the problem is that some people are have
the push button start, but the guys who are trying to steal the car
or the people trying to steal the car don't know it till they get in
it. So like Berkeley bringing from News to NBC has push button star Kia,
you can't steal that. But they had busted the back window to try
to get in, and then they realized they couldn't steal it, so they
went on to the next Yeah, right where the tires as a gap.
Yeah, put it in there. You rip it, then it's a little
off. You grab it and tear the rest off. Then there's a surrounding
key of the metal. Yea, they break that off too, they grab
it. Could literally take three to five minutes, just maybe less. Plug
it in right here, twist it's one. Just take off. Yeah.
Yeah, it's crazy. It is absolutely and the I mean, so these
boys are young, so they're getting a misdemeanors, Like at some point is
the penalty going to be stiffer because they're trying to do stuff. There's even
proposals. I mean, I think no idea is a bad idea, But
there was a guy in here, and I don't think Josep was running again,
but he had proposed do we go after the parents' insurance right to pay
for all the damage? Because the person who gets screwed in this is the
person whose car's gone, you know what I mean. The only person that's
a pain in the ass to unless I get hit by the stolen car,
is the person. Right, that's it. If it's your car stolen,
that's it. You're out of it. You can't find it, You've got
to pay for the impound. We had talked to a woman who had gone
through and all this show. Yeah, my car got stolen once and I
had to pay for it to get out of impound and pay all the tickets
that I had on it when they found it and everything. It was thousands
of dollars. You're kidding, And they wouldn't let you have it back unless
you paid all that. Yep, I could not get it out and I
came to the impound one my police report and everything, like I had a
legit, they legit took it and I had to pay. Wow, over
a thousand dollars. They don't care. They do not care. They don't
care. And you gotta pay cash to You can't bring a credit card.
It's got to be cash, cash money. And she could she could care
less what kind of a day I was having. I was like, but
man, my car was stolen, Like, here's my police report. It's
like that'll be like they hire professional assholes to run these shows. I'm not
choking, like, yeah, run these Why don't we wait until we're all
just because it's hard for people to see you know what I'm saying, Well,
we're talking and you can't it's hard to That's all right, sor right.
Actually, we'll take a moment we come back, We'll catch up with
Alex, find out what she's been up to. And then there's a story
that I remember when Alex is with us that they're no and it's there was
a case in the news not too too long ago. We'll get to that.
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And just think about the public Market. It's spaced out, Yeah,
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path of beer. Yeah, it's likens. It's the yellow brick Road.
Yes, the yellow brick Road. I love it. Beer. Roorback Brewing
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stouts, heavily fruited sours, which are becoming very popular with people. They
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twenty at manscape dot com. Comedy at the Carlson has the Laughter Union and
some new talent coming with the Funniest Person in Rochester contest that kicks off next
way July fifth. So if you're getting assaulted with some comics at your Fourth
of July party or some jokes, it's somebody who may be in the contest,
you should come out and support them. I'm telling you it's always fun
to see and by the end you can see some really really talented people come
through there. Actually there was one year that it was a friend of our
son was in it. Oh really yeah, yeah, I don't want to
embarrass anybody, but yeah, they do well. Got to the finals.
Oh wow, I got to the finals. This kid has got a very
unique style and it was at great stage presence and stuff. But it's always
fun to go to this. And it kicks off July fifth, so you'll
have the preliminary rounds every night with two shows Friday and Saturday, and I
maybe even two shows Sunday right up through July ninth there. So it's one
straight full week of preliminary rounds, right, So it's everybody in the first
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I were all part of the break room, yeah, yeah, and there
were the day the world was supposed to ed. We were all together,
yes, And Alex was an intern and I remember having her do a bit
like somebody did a bit, and I remember I snapped yeah over the audio,
do you remember? I yelled, oh good, do you remember?
Yes? And Tommy's like starts laughing and stuff, and I go, you
start playing it and you can't hear. It's like all garbled, and I
go, honey, do you have ears? Yeah? I don't think.
I don't think I said, honey, I think I said, I go
do your ears work? Could you how could you possibly think that this could
be played on the radio. I'm sure I know I said that into a
microphone. Do you remember? Yeah? Wow? Yeah, And you don't
remember it. You just stood there and then like I think, everyone's like,
oh god, oh god, why is he doing this? Yeah?
I probably blacked out. Well, I was an asshole. I blacked out
most of my life. And that wasn't because I wanted to, it just
it was a second bat Blue paid an asshole all the time. I said,
you weren't an asshole all the time. Not all the time. You
were one of my favorite people to work for. Yes, yeah, well
you know I was trying to try to be cool. We had fun.
We had a lot of fun to left. When she left, she did
a She recorded a good bye message for us, and one of the things
she said about Tommy was something the effect of, I don't even remember a
good bye message. Oh yeah, she recorded a good bye message anything,
huh, you don't remember anything really well, And the message was, Tommy,
you make look doing nothing look incredibly difficult. That was pretty good,
or how hard doing nothing really is? Yeah? Now I do remember,
uh. I think there was an uncomfortable moment with a program director. Do
you remember this where he wanted you to do a video and you said something
to me and I'm like, oh, don't do it. Oh yeah,
because he was trying to get like you, trying to get cleaning in there,
and he wanted it to be a little saucy and I wasn't. But
and you said, you said to me quietly like it really makes me uncomfortable.
So I'm like, don't do it. And then he got wind and
was pissed at me. He has hated me ever since. He actually tweeted
to somebody that I was a terrible higher on Twitter publicly, terrible high boss.
You can't like you got hired at n Yeah, I was working there.
I was interning for you guys, but I was producing that traffic.
I was doing the traffic. I was also doing the um that real estate
show with Steve Oh yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah to show. And
then okay, but he said you were a terrible hire because he wanted to
do this saucy video and he wanted somebody with some cleavage and stuff, and
so he had you. And all you said to me was I'm uncomfortable like
man in the world we lived in then let alone? Now, I mean,
and man, what a dick. I helped that guy get the job,
but I called I fucking freaked him out. One day, I get
a call from somebody who says, can you describe? And I don't want
to say his name, even though I can on the podcast, it doesn't
matter. Can you describe this guy in three words? And I thought,
I in my head, I go, oh my god, I have nothing
good to say. And then I thought, well, is that fair?
Because there were a lot of people that did like him. I like them,
Yes, them. So I remember I was driving See here's things I
can't remember. I was driving down East Avenue, uh, going past Nazareth
and then the Pittsford Pub and all. And I called back and I said,
um, the three words I would say is determined to win, determined
to win and so the guy. So then after that I hear basically he
got the job. So I call him up and he's like, who's this?
Like, you know, because it comes up nowadays on your own caller
ide even if the person's on in. Your father was like, god,
damn you, you won't change. He won't change. You're pussy then,
you're pussy now? And uh he was. I mean, come on,
man, he was a nerd. You know. He was probably a kid
who got bullied Alart. Yeah, because he's very like. He just had
no he had no spine. And that's why tired. I swear to God,
I will thank you Danny. So us there was a there was a
listener who won a contest, not through us, through PEPSI to host the
Field the Dreams game in Rochester, New York. Field of Dreams was a
promotion put on my Major League Baseball. I don't know about Reggie, but
Wade Boggs was there, Frank Thomas, Pedro Martinez, all these all stars.
Right. So they had an American League team in a National League team,
and this kid was a Yankee fan. So he and his brother got
to play in the American League team. So your old co host, John
de Tulio was commandeered to manage the American League team. They said, Danny,
will you manage the National League team. We'll give you a uniform and
everything. I said, sure, absolutely. When was this? Uh this
was you were there? That was twenty eleven, twenty twelve, right,
it was I remember remember this. I don't remember you managing the Well I'm
getting there. That's where the story he takes a dramatic turt Okay, so
I get called into his house. Hey, listen, um. The Rochester
Red Wings said that they would rather have Raff managed Raff from p x Y
at the time manage the team, even though I was the sports guy on
the sports station and the exact produce of our show, and I did sports
and had that guy Dan in every weekend to talk about So I said,
okay, no problem. Well, what this guy didn't realize when he got
the town was that I had had a relationship with Dan Mason going back at
that point ten years. Yeah. So I go to Dan. I go,
I don't believe this story is true, but just let me run it
by it. He goes, No, we had nothing to do with it.
We're just hosting the damn thing. We don't call the shots. It
was somebody in promotion who decided it wasn't it was they needed they needed.
No, I don't even think it was him, it was it was Yeah.
I think it was somebody up above who said we need to get somebody
who needs a little push here, so let's get our top forty station.
I don't understand. Was that the Michael Scott of the station blond? Yes?
And yes, okay, but but I would I don't know if it
was her. I think that in some way somebody came and said, hey,
we need to get somebody out there. Who's this? So he's in
the dugout with Johnny Badge and all these guys. I don't know if this
guy is a base Yeah, he is a baseball fan and he is a
bit of a sports guy. But he was on a top forty station.
Why wouldn't you have your rock station that has the Red Wings in to have
the guy talk about it? Where people care about baseball a sport that is
aging or was aging? I think they're getting a little younger now, but
I never I'll never ever get it. I'll never get it. I think
that wasn't his call. I can't even but I can't even talk about some
of that stuff anymore because I go, what's the point point? I'll get
myself worked up over how stupid it is and it's not going to change.
And it still is. And I have friends that work in it, and
some of them are really dumb people, and that they are on Twitter yesterday
for sakes. No, no, no, that they are. They're just
dumb people. They know they may not realize it, but they're dumb and
they make dumb decisions and they do it continuously. And it's what do I
care. There's no no bearing on me whatsoever. The story, Alex.
I could share another Yeah, hold on, just hold that, just just
chamber that one left, uh and went and did TV. Yeah, so
lots of TV. What was the first TV show you you worked on?
The very first one was First forty eight, which is what I left to
the break room to go do because they had come to Rochester because he had
had a season. Yeah, a whole bunch of murders and professionals to Rochester.
It was complete, Like I mean, I was like, I had
done American Pickers before that, but I was a PA and I had only
done like a couple like one weekend of a shoot. There was like a
spinoff show and it was really fun and I was like, oh, this
dude, And then I got on this and it was really real. It
was like your your field kit was like a bulletproof vest. Oh yeah,
and I had a cell phone called a murder phone because the only time it
rings is when there's a murder. It's like a bad phone. It's like
a legitimate bad phone because you're on call all the time. So I remember,
like a couple of times I was out with friends or whatever in the
murder phone ring and I'd have to go like to the murder um and be
on site. And my job as the producer was to talk to the next
of kin and family and friends and to get them to come on camera and
talk about the victim or whatever. So imagine that, like that sounds like
the worst day of your life. I'm coming up to you and hi do
and you know what they are. So they gave me a box of swag
like T shirts and teachings I'm not shitting you, to give to people.
As it was, it was so tough. I had a lot of people
just completely break down, and I was like in a really bad place to
myself. So I who was not handling that well. So when they they
only got like one and a half solves is what they call it, Like
they were only able to solve one and a half cases of the like thirty
six homicides or something. They shot they ended up pulling out of the city
early, so I love which was such a blessing in disguise. So that
was here was here in Rochester, and then um, right after that,
I got a job on So wait, you said, hang on a second.
That that experience made you go hey, but you like the first one
and you liked the TV and you knew that and you got to see what
you didn't want, Yeah, and so you could get more of what you
do want, which was the television side of it. And I had the
production you know, the sort of the soup to nuts skills of a producer
are sort of the same no matter what show you're on, everything sort of
falls into the same. So I was trying to get those skills, but
I definitely didn't want to do it like I'll do true crime, but I
want to do one of those recreations where we recreate the murder. Yeah right,
you have the bad actors trying to make it big. Yeah, you
don't really see the crime. You just see the hand go up right,
and then you see or the gun and then you see the firing of the
gun, but you don't see what happened afterwards. And watch your mouth.
I have a gun. Oh really, damn it. Practice this one for
a while. My wife watches all these shows. Oh, I guess,
yeah, those are tough. But yeah. Then I went out and did
like a Flea Market Flip was the next show. Yeah, what is Flea
Market Flip? How I've never seen that? Oh, Flea Market Flip is
a great show. Used to be on HGTV like way back in the day.
But basically, they get teams of people who can rehab furniture, so
they go around to flea markets and they buy They get money because it's a
competition show, and they buy pieces of furniture and then they bring them back
to the workshop and they redo them, and then they take them to a
flea market and resell them and see if they can get more than they paid.
At the end of it, whoever sold their things for the most money
wins and they win a big prize and whatever. Race and Randy watching with
Tracy. Tracy bought this beautiful couch, Buddy, totally refurbish what Rebers scare
crabs. I think the couture. Wow. So people, it was all
about furniture and who could sell it. So Flea Market Flip Yeah, interesting,
Yeah, it was really fun. Did you work on any of the
car shows I did. I sat down and watched fast and loud, and
I got sewing too fast and loud? Like, did she start racing after
that? No? I no, I'm sorry. No, that fast and
loud is recent. Oh, greson, that's more of an American. No,
that was more just other people I knew. And because I know you
got into racing for I did for a little bit. It's dude, it's
I was. I was looking at buying a car about a year, two
years ago, two years ago, two summers, guy and I decided not
to oh yeah, okay, about twenty grand to get a car out of
California that would be all built for racing, and then you probably have to
put another I want to go down to car Me and get a Dodge Challenger.
It's like, I don't need a Corvette. I don't need anything.
I just give you a Dodge che orange yellow, whatever, some hot color,
black white, and I just want to take that pick out for like
this two weeks a year okay. So I was looking at this just to
drive on tracks and stuff, and I didn't really care too much as to
the maker model. So much is more of the experience of doing it right,
because I had done it a few times in different areas. But if
I had my choice, it's an import and I would really love to get
an Audi R eight that that would if they're built for the street man,
you could take those to a track. I mean, I swear to god,
I would love to take one just on the street road and show me
a curve where they tell you it's twenty miles per hour around the curve,
and I guarantee you, if you can drive, watch this, that car
you could take that curve at sixty. And I really Michael, Oh yeah,
yeah, I don't. I know, I've never I don't think that
I've never been in one cars. And I would love to have an air
cool Porsche just because I think those are some of the coolest cars. Well
yeah, last Steve Circule, let's take you for a right, Well,
no, he's I think he has water cool line. It's fine. That's
a little a little different. So all these shows, so, out of
all the shows you've done, what one was your favorite? I have to
say, like I've had a couple of favorites. Like one of my favorites
never saw the light of day. It was like a show for fusion.
It was a car show and it was like car culture, but not for
your old man. It was kids, car culture for kids. We went
all around the country with these kids who write for Gizmoto. Oh yeah,
you know Gizmoto. They do like Jezebel and the Onion and stuff. They
have a site called Jelopnik where they write all about cars. As two of
the writers were host of the show, and they went around to all these
like really unique car communities. And there's this car show called H two OI
in Ocean City, Maryland, and it's basically like all these hondas and they
stance the wheels and they raise them up and down the strip and the whole
point is to see how many tickets you can get, how many times I
can get your car towed and impounded. And the kids go, they get
their cars out, they pay, and they get right back on the street
and just rip the strip up all night long. And then there's people,
crowds of people standing on the street going sund it. And these cars aren't
just ripping up Ocean City, Maryland. It's yeah, and we got to
see like this guy and so what was the name of the show. It
was called car versus America. Car Versus America. We did like a monster
truck. This guy does monster truck racing in the county fair circuit, so
like a smaller monster truck, but the thing rips. It was really it
was a really cool This guy in Ohio has like this really unique series of
hondas that you can only get in Japan, and he's got a three warehouses
full of them. It was unbelievable to see the collection. Like we we
went to the coolest places and got to see the coolest things. And then
the show. The show was on Fusion, so unless you have Fusion and
your cable provider, no we ever saw it, right. But my second
favorite show was Project Runway. I did three seasons. Oh no kidding,
yeah, wow, Project Runway. That was actually a cool show. Yeah,
I did the new iteration trying to remember. Tim Gunn was on the
show. Heidi Klum was on the show. So you did that show that
was Network or was that that was Discovery? Was Lifetime? It started on
Bravo, then I went to Lifetime. I did when it came back to
Bravo. Okay, so they Tim Gunn and Heidi Klum left to go do
a basically the same show on Amazon called like Making the Cut. I think
it's called okay Um and I came on. We had basically the same judges
with Nina Garcia, Brandon, Maxwell Um, Elaine welter Off, and then
for the first season we had Carly Class the model. She was like the
Heidi Klum, and then the mentor, Tim Gunn was Christian Siriano because he
won he won one of the Project Runways and he had his own line.
He was the only guy to make it out. Everybody else kind of fizzled.
Yeah, and then even he went bankrupt. I think after no,
he's he's doing just he's doing well, Okay, never mind mistake, he's
uh, he actually got once he won the show, he kind of blew
up because he designed the inauguration dress for Michelle Obama. Really yeah, and
then everybody was like, oh my god, Christians. Yeah, so he's
he's and and probably will tell you like the whole reason they want that show
is because they're trying to find the next Christian Siriano. It just hasn't happened.
Ye, how many someone has hit They're on their twentieth yeah, this
was like season four that he hit it. Yeah, so what did you
do on that show? I was a field producer, So basically my job
is to follow the talent around and basically track everything that they do, and
then I take them into the interview room and I ask them all kinds of
questions. So when you see them cut to the confessional and they're like,
I really wanted to make that dress, like they're talking to me. Okay,
wow, all right, that's kind of cool. Yeah, it's really
cool. You pull them on a confessional during like their deadline. I have
forty five minutes to get this dress ready, and I am stressing that's one
hundred percent true. They we rotate them so everybody has to have the same
amount of time to work, so it's fair. So we rotate them out
in like forty five minute increments. We take them to these little trailers outside
and we do a quick like interstitial we call it, and it's basically like,
what are you doing, why are you doing that? What happened?
What did you rip your zipper? And it's so funny because we can hear
everything and see everything, so they can't get away with anything. Yeah,
if they mess up and we asked them in the interview and they're like,
oh, I heard you say, like, oh fuck, I ripped that.
Tell me what you did. That's very funny. Can't get them and
make them like make dresses out of paper plates and stuff like that, and
they have to like creativity, they have to make it work off. Yeah,
it's almost genius level, isn't it. It is that they really are
making these designs in a vacuum. We give them a certain amount of time
to draw it to go buy your materials. When you see them and the
show are running around that store, they are actually running and we are running
all around trying to hide from the canter around. Wow. Yeah, it's
one of the more real shows. When you see them breakdown, they are
really having breakdown. Man. So what's going on now with television because you
have the writer's strike? Yeah, and mostly we would think that would affect
maybe shows like That's a Night Show or Kim All and that kind of thing,
but in any sitcoms, anything that's scripted. Yeah, reality TV as
well, TV is really a mess right now. Vulture just had a great
article if you're interested about It's called the Binge and Purge and it's basically like
sort of Netflix ruined everything. Yeah, the streaming model really, it took
off like wildfire, and nobody knew how to catch up with it. And
the business models different from podcast television. You don't have the ad revenue.
You're relying on subscribers. And last year, two years ago, when Netflix
had their first loss, the entire entertainment industry went nuts. I mean they
started letting people go before right after COVID when we all came back because we
all got decimated from COVID. You couldn't be on set, you know,
can't be doing that. But when we came back, it was like every
project you were interested in could get green lit. You want to make a
show about roller skating cats, you got it. You want to make a
show about your wacky family, you got it. You get a show,
You get a show. It was like Oprah Winfrey. Yeah, and now
all of those people have been fired who were given everybody to shows, right,
Well, you know you're starting to see inspiration. You know what you're
starting to see now too is I really thought that it was like the new
Golden age of television when these streaming services came, because you got a lot
of quality shows that weren't getting green lit by networks, weren't being able to
cut through. And I don't know that nepotism place, but you know,
you get things like Two and a half Men and you can't tell me that
it's better than I don't know, right, like like Succession or something that's
the HBO Max right or something that Netflix had, even the Gracie and Frankie
and Gracie or whatever that was. But you started to see these shows get
green light and I thought, boy, you're gonna you're gonna start to see
more and more. The Marvelous Missus Maisel really really great show, I mean,
really well done. And I don't binge watch a lot of things,
but I made sure I really like that, and of course it appealed to
me with the comedy and the old era and you know, uh and who
they talked about. But what I think you're gonna start to see is when
things aren't of quality, there's a lot of shit on there. There's a
lot of crap. And that's the problem. That's what they're seeing. They're
seeing that that they've greenlit all these wonderful shows and put all these people to
work, right, But people are going to Netflix and they're watching Gilmore Girls.
My wife loves that show. No watch. And then but then there's
there's there's there's a bunch of schlock shows like the Jamie Fox sitcom that I
watched a couple episode, not very good. I watched the Arnold documentary.
I loved it. It's a three parts docuseries. I watched it maybe two
two and a half times Netflix. And then he's got a show called foo
Bar. I watched a couple of episodes of that. But again, to
me, it's like so quick and just shitty writing, and you know it's
there. What you're gonna start seeing is what's happening to Megan Markle where they
were told that they have you know, we're paying you ten million dollars and
if you guys, they're already kicked off Spotify because they're not interesting. The
story's over. No one gives a shit anymore. You're not royal family,
so who cares. You're not doing anything really here, You've got your millions
of dollars. It becomes one of these things where you got a hustle and
they never had to she did, He didn't. He didn't really have to
hustle, and I think, now you've got your your stories out. You
were these here, you escape from what a lot of people were seeing as
a as a prison. Maybe it was, maybe it wasn't, and no
one cares anymore. And now the whole thing on Netflix, I mean,
they are they're being told if they don't step up whatever documentary series, they're
taken back them. I think, what did they get a one hundred million
dollars deal, yesh, which is nuts and it's insane. Didn't get nearly
the I mean, this is this is what the dot com bubble in a
way, it's sort of a retreat of that. You watched, Uh what
Chappelle get what seventy or one hundred million dollars? And I don't know that
he didn't deliver because every special game, I don't know in terms of their
stuff, whether or not it repaid. Uh Chris Rock, I think at
a seventy million dollars deal from Netflix, is he worth it? I don't
know. But the live thing was interesting, yeah, and it certainly was
a touch point for them, and I think you're going to see them start
to go do that. I'll give an example of a guy who got a
ton of money from Netflix, and his movies all suck, Adam Sandler,
Yeah, but they don't all suck. You don't think so. No,
I haven't laughed once. No, No, like I love, I have
the Happy Gilmore that now I'm not talking about. I'm not talking about his
like stuff that made him famous. I'm talking about this new stuff like Sandy
Waxler and all this other stuff. I don't know. Well, that's the
thing though, though he's making a movie like The Ridiculous Six just for Netflix.
Yeah, and they just came out. Yeah, well I think he
did. He do the one with Drew Barrymore where it's like the Yeah Families.
Was that just for Netflix? Yes? And that wasn't bad where they
go on vacation together. That was actually pretty good. I did think some
of his other stuff, I hear you, Uh, what was the one
where he was the scout for basketball and he winds up going over to Europe
and he finds a guy. I really enjoyed that, the one where he's
acting, But I don't know that he produced. I don't think he produced.
I think he was acting one with Yeah. I never saw that.
I heard. That's fantastic. It's it's good. I wouldn't wasn't. I
wouldn't say fantastic, but it wasn't him though, it wasn't him, Like
this wasn't part of Appy Madison Productions. No, but the Happy Manage.
I mean some of it's some of it's good, some of it's. I
hear that the murder mystery he does with Jennifer Aniston. I heard it was
enjoyable but slocky and ship and yet they did a second one because I think
sometimes that's what people just want to eat, you know what I mean,
And that's what they want to digest. So he has comedy. Oh sorry,
go ahead. You know how Spencer Pacing or left for Miami to do
the All American Show. It's like, it's, oh, yeah, what
if like Tay Diggs did the same thing, and you know, because he
and All American. I don't want to spoil anything, but he died.
Yeah, so dude, well they pat it. They had it in the
news here, they had it. And what if he does a sort of
same thing but for him growing up in Rochester and he does a little show.
It would be interesting. Netflix was good when shows like On My Block
and All American were releasing episodes back to back to back to back. That's
when it was really good. Then there's nothing new. It's just all dried.
It's just stale because you can binge it now. Well, the problem
is that it's across all platforms this kind of stuff. Right, You've got
this show on Apple TV called Platonic, and it's about two people that were
guying, a man and woman who were friends in college, and now they've
reconnect that after he divorces his wife, who the girl did not like.
She's married. They it was always Platonic and they get back together and it's
just kind of like it's but it's all right, it's gonna get back to
being good. Ones like shows like Stranger Things. There are new seasons out
and more things. There's a there's a spinoff of on My I don't know
if you've ever watched All My Block I have, there's a new spinoff called
Free Ridge. I think that's what it's called. But now that's just so
it was all boys and one girl. Now it's all girls and one boy.
And so they're picking up little things from On My Block and adding it
to their like some characters and stuff, and it's making it kind of good,
but a lot of people realize that it's really not what they made.
It seem like it was going to be. Well, there's the last shows
though, that like they start out great, you have to give at least
three seasons. We talked to the guy who wrote Banshee's from Rochet. Yeah
he lived under John Parnella's roof. I forgot the name his name, and
he said, you have when you present a show, you have to have
at least three seasons of material. You have to show where the characters are
going. And a lot of times if there's a hit at those three seasons
and that it's like, okay, where do we go from here? Look
what happened lost? The guy couldn't figure out how to end the show right,
And then there's like yeah, but then there was then there was like
House of Cards was one of the best shows ever until Bow willem On,
the show runner left. When he left, the show immediately became a dis
I mean, I enjoyed Ozark and I thought they had a good thing,
but you know, I watched the Mary Tyler More documentary. I love documentaries,
and I hadn't done landscaping at our house and growing up as a kid,
and uh, that's the Dick Van Dyke Show. They said five seasons.
They came to the fifth season and nobody really wanted it to end,
and they went, no, we're ending it. It was the writers.
They're like, the networks going, come on, keep going, this is
great, right, and they're like, no, because you just can't write.
And that was I mean we're talking you know some of the big it
was. It was Karl Reiner. Yeah, and Karl Reiner goes, you
can't write more than after five seasons. It's just you can't. And then
there were certain shows like Cosby. They were even like Cosby got the six
seasons. This is what I'm saying, it just ran out of material.
Happy Days phrase jumped the Shark was because they over That's that's why Jerry Seinfeldt
said, I'm done. Yeah. Well like them High nine feel like these
video games into shows, Like they made Mario their own movie. I mean,
yes, they make him Uncharted their movie. It's really good. But
what if they started making games like GTA five into TV shows and series.
Well, I mean the one that's the closest and I love all of them
is to Fast and the furious. I mean, that's the closest thing to
a game show on movie I've ever seen. But I love it. I
love those movies into literal series and make it interesting, like five series.
You just need no matter what it is, it's got to be strong writing,
I think, and that and that, and that's where it was,
go ahead, Jameson. So they're if they're not going to release the new
game, why don't they just release the series, which is not going to
cost them as much money as it seems like they're spending to make the game.
To make the game, I mean, they made one billion dollars I
think in the first GTA three weeks of it being released in two thousand and
thirteen, just to make a little series. It doesn't even have to be
more than a season. I think it would be great. Oh No,
Like I think a lot of this came because the sopranos, Like well,
Fox Network came out of nowhere because Rupert Murdock became an americanized citizen and there
was all this programming that nobody's gonna put on ABCNBC or CBS. So because
I'll take it, and it was this whacky network where they'd only show shows
from eight to ten, right, and then even they started turning away shows.
And one of the shows they turned away was The Sopranos, and HBO
said, will take it, and David Chase is like, Okay, I
can make this whatever I want, right, there's no censorship. And that's
and that show changed everything. So now every show, whether it's Apple TV,
Netflix, Hulu is trying to live up to that and it's so hard.
It just moved the needle. You know. I'm not saying that everything's
gonna be a drama like The Sopranos, but they're looking for that kind of
writing. Yeah, the clever kind of story. All right, well,
let's let's take a moment when we come back. Uh, we're gonna have
Doug Phelps. I had asked Doug he would want up not being able to
come in tonight because he's gonna be in the Funniest Person in Rochester contest again.
He wants defend his title, offend his title July fifth, and uh,
I will be hosting that and then jug will be up there July sixth.
But Alex when I called her to say, hey, if you're in
town, come on because she's gonna be we're gonna be doing another project in
here, a show that she's done. And by the way, I've taken
your pitch. And my son came to me, one of my boys,
and said, I want to do a podcast. And I go, okay,
I want something like this before I before I green light anything I did,
because I said, I can't have you coming in here and just shitting
up a microphone and expect me to put it out with my name at anyway
to wait, wait, why ahead say it? I don't everything all right?
All right, all right, all right, all right, well wait,
let's come. Let's about this on the other side. Hold on,
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ago. Do you remember that? That was like one of the scariest things
I ever if I had to be for you terrified because all of a sudden,
Alex was were you working on the show then or an intern? I
think you were hired and you were doing traffic? Yes, yes, I
was filling in that morning, yes, Tom George. Oh so I was
supposed to be doing like the late time George traffic for the news and everything.
Yeah, and I was late oh TV and everything. Yeah. And
I remember like they were pacing around and getting pissy, and but then we
brought you in and you started talking, and I go, wait, it
sounds like you got your drink spiked. You called me and You're like,
where are you? Oh at the clock, And I was like, oh
my gosh, I don't like I couldn't even like put it all together,
Like I didn't even realize what had happened until I until we started talking about
it. Yeah, because I got so sick. I was so sick.
I threw up so it was so disgusting, so much. And I remember
I like I was in the shower at my friend's house for so long.
I set the fire alarm, the smoke alarm off with the steam a pre
after it had like I was at the bar, yeah, and I had
the drink. It was one of those little halsies. And I drank the
drink and I was like they have like they had the benches along the wall,
and I remember I sat down on the bench. I was like,
man, I am fucked up. What is this? I have to go
to the bathroom. And I walked into the bathroom and the whole world is
just spinning around. And I ended up getting so sick, and my friend
came in and was like, what's going on. I was just just done
for and the just puking everywhere. So they got me out of They carried
me out of the bar. At this point, I'm like like I had
gone and tied one on, you know. I was so sick. I
got in the shower at my friend's house, set the fire alarm off with
the steam from the shower, was in the shower till probably five in the
morning. We were on the air at five minutes. Yeah, right,
you called me. I got up from whatever I was. I called you
because I remember like they were getting pissed and I was always like kind of
hyper aware of how they treated people, and I wouldn't I would catch out
the things I don't. I mean, I used to have arguments. I
remember my arguments with them over people that were associated with our show, and
I there were people I liked and I wanted to protect them. You were
one, Danny is another, and so I remember, and I remember that
whole thing with the other guy that you know in the video and all this.
But I think when you came in and you afterwards, like I think
most of the time, the traffic reports stopped around nine, yeah, and
I think we went till ten, and you came in and told us some
stuff, and I go, man, it sounds like, yeah, you
just were asking me what happened, and I said, you know, I
went and had a drink. I was celebrating my job on the first forty
eight. I just found out that day and I wanted to go have a
beer with my friends, and oh man, I remember it came in all
turned around. I remember Bras smelt like puke like. I just was like,
what am I doing? I remember Tommy was like what the hell?
Like, I like, he couldn't. I was so bad. Yeah,
well it's a scary thing. And I found a story. This happened in
Michigan about six days ago. This story hit. Now it's a couple months.
I think this has been going on. But listen to this and then
I'll have I have questions that I don't think that are almost rhetorical, like
there's no answer. But not easy for Becky and Jeremy smedendorfness to sit down
and discuss what happened two months ago after a Saturday mom's night out in downtown
Chelsea. It was a silent disco at Ugly Dog Distillery, where after two
hours and a few SIPs into her third drink, things changed. Oh within
about i'd say five ten minutes, I started feeling really off. Now this
woman is attractive. She's an attractive woman, and I go, what is
the endgame for the amateur chemist who gets you is so sick? Because as
you're going to hear Alex, her story sounds like yours, and I go,
what's the end game there is it to punish people. Chelsea is kind
of a it would be the Pittsford of the Detroit kind of you know,
it's a really quaint little area. Uh and and this is a pretty woman
out with her friends. What's the end game? I think the problem is
that the douser doesn't realize well that's what I'm saying, an amateur chemist.
She doesn't realize so much she's putting in there. So they put a little
in the end game is to to incapacitate the person and take advantage of them
in some way, like these two boys at the bar. Then I kept
trying to get me and my girlfriend to go to this party with them,
and we kept saying, no, I don't want to go to the party.
I want to stay like we just got here. I want to stay
here, Like, don't want to go to the party with you? Are
you flattered at this? I mean, girls in the bar that night us
just got a job as a producer on a shot was a minting Like god,
no, but it is. It's scary. I think when you douse
someone, you just want to and capacitate them. So gave me a little
too much, gave this poor woman got a little too much, I mean
really off and it was very different than anything I had ever experienced. Within
minutes, Becky said she fell over, couldn't walk, and began losing consciousness.
The text she sent to her husband asking him to come get her show
how quick things went downhill when you're young and you're new to drinking. We've
all had those experiences where you know, you had a little too much to
drink. It was old and those experiences, I mean, I you know,
so they call it amateur nighty, you know what that feels like.
This was like being on a completely different planet. As Jeremy went to pick
up his wife of more than a decade at the same place he had just
dropped her off, he could barely hold her up as she vomitated the whole
time. I'm like, how could you get this trunk in an hour and
a half? Like, now, think about this, you don't know if
your wife Danny called you, and you don't know. You're almost embarrassed,
right, You're almost mad at her, Like, come on, we got
kids to do tomorrow. I get going out with your girlfriend now a problem
with that, But you're gonna be this drunk, like puking drunk that you
know, right, this doesn't make any sense, like, this isn't you.
Eventually, Becky was rushed to the hospital and Jeremy suspected I have to
think up to that point though, he's pissed. He's not saying it,
but he's going, this isn't you, This isn't who I'm marry, what
are we doing here? Right? But she irritated, she went to the
rave to begin with, what are you doing at a rave? Whatever?
He's always supposed to be a couple of hours? Oh yeah, yeah,
yeah, the silent disco? Would that be like a rave kind of?
Yeah? Well, I mean sort of. Yeah. Your got headphones on
and you're listening to music and you're thinking a room of other people who are
doing the same. Yeah, what I mean, it's sort of the same
yea vibes, you know. Sure, I didn't even think of that.
And she may have been drugged, but says the hospital wasn't equipped to test
in time, and even then, drugs like GHB are hard to prove.
Even at that time, they didn't take the drugging seriously, and that's kind
of part of the awareness, Like maybe they kind of did, but everyone
just kind of chalks it up to drinking too much. That's what everyone assumes.
In the week since the incident, the couple has been frustratingly waiting for
answers. Both they and police had for more people saying the same thing happened
to them, but so far no silent suspects. The distillery still hasn't commented
on the incident and declined to talk when I visited today. They're not responsible,
I mean, but I am very disappointed in their reaction to the whole
situation. I would have expected at least some sort of acknowledgement that this allegedly
happened, and here's what we're doing about it. The speed endors are confident
Becky's drink was spiked with GHB, but given lack of concrete evidence, they
aren't hopeful anyone will be charged. They just want to spread awareness that this
can happen and hope victims are supported and believed. But I feel really pulled
by just the trauma of the situation to spread awareness as far as I can,
because we've got to break the silence on this stuff. It's a weird
thing. GHB. I'm not even familiar with that did anybody know what that
stands for. I meant to look it up on a friend of time,
but so I'm not even familiar with the chemical that they're talking about. But
the idea that sure I can understand where a bar and you would almost as
the person this happened to, and having other people say it happened to them
or they had a similar experience there, you would wish they would go,
hey, we don't believe that you know anybody in our place, but we
are. We are. You heard this a few times. We're gonna do
something. But do you want that out that somebody maybe might can drink your
bar? You know what I'm saying. I mean, this is your livelihood.
What are you gonna do so you can? I mean, it's understandable,
It's it's not noble, but it's understandable. Well, at the time,
I didn't even want to say the name of the bar because I know
it's not typical of their I've been in there hundreds of times and had great
times. You know, not I've ever had. You never think about when
you're in your neighborhood bar, that's going to happen, you know, you
literally don't so that happened how many years ago? Oh god, twenty eleven.
Okay, do you have pe tsd at all? From that? Do
you get a little nervous when you go out to bars? Do you take
definitely don't, Like I don't leave my drinks. I don't accept rinks from
strangers. I don't. You know, I'm super I you you almost have
to be, and especially like I live in the city and myself. But
I mean, if somebody were to buy you a drink and you could see
the bartender make it, that's a difference. But if they come over to
me like a drink in their hand and they're like, hey, I got
this for you, I immediately am like thank you, and I set it
down behind me and don't touch it, you know, okay, because you
can't, you know, I mean, yeah, you got to think always
in the back of your mind. It's got to take some of the fun
at it, right well, you know what I mean. It's because it's
a you know, paranoid all the time. It does, you know,
you don't you don't obviously let it Like obviously, the right after it happened,
I was like, I'm not going out ever again. And unfortunately this
young man who's I think now in jail, actually ended up attacking a woman
the following evening, like he made it happen with her. Really. Yeah,
And that's how I found out because I I called the gentleman like it
was a friend of mine and his friend. It was his friend that did
it. I called my friend and I was like, what's with your boy?
And he was At first he got all defensive and it was like he
would never do that. I don't know what you're talking about. It must
have been somebody else. And then like a couple hours later he called and
was like, I'm so sorry. You'll never believe what happened. He just
got arrested apparently assaulted somebody at a part. Like so he was just this
kid was just raring to go. But you know, and you never know,
but you don't. You don't let it ruin. It doesn't ruin every
good time. You just be a little bit more cautious, right, I
mean, especially if you're a girl. Don't don't take it. I gotta
tell you, man, do you know how good we got it? Yeah?
Oh yeah? And do you know how being white men? Yeah?
In this country? Absolutely? Yea god, Well, you ever thought about
getting no. Never thought about getting no. I never thought of no,
because no one spike in my drink. No, No, they're not.
Now, I'm not my wife bite spike mine. I never. That's where
a different things must get me to clean the house. I never. Uh,
you don't. I mean, I'm not saying that it can't happen to
a man, but its likely No, well no, I mean it's like
you got to think about the power dynamic like often all the time. It's
like some kind of polo dynamic. You gotta think, you know, yeah,
but I always go like, it's got to be the closest thing to
necrophilia you can get without necrophilia. I don't know, Bill Cosby, don't
you like somebody who's enjoying the moment with you and want to want to desire
you as much as you desire them? Or it's literally just like complete control
over the person, which is definitely a kink, you know what I mean.
So it's definitely you know, there are people out there just want Fine,
there's the Internet now you can find all the like one. The geniuses
designed this for you perverts to meet up. It's okay, it's okay.
They didn't have that back then, so they did not like that. So
he was, you know, he was thinking old. Yeah, now there's
apps, there's everything there. They go on the internet and you can find
somebody that likes to take. Well, now we have the Rochester kink Society.
We're in here. That's good, you know, and they have they
have their safe words. Yeah, I mean for ouch, get off my
hair. I just I did. I remember that night? You remember being
like, Wow, that's a that's a traumatizing experience, you know. I
actually remember you called me after the show. I went home and you were
like, you do you want to go? Maybe just check yourself out?
Like so I went and I had enough of it in my system that there
were still traces of it in my urine. Wow. I was like,
I'm almost one hundred percent sure I was rufied with something. And she was
you know, they do, they give you a hard time. How much
did you have to drink? How many drinks? They ask all the questions.
Then she's like, well, you know, it's often undetectable depending on
how long there was so much fit. She was like, yeah, there
was there was trace amounts in there. Ye, Like I couldn't believe it.
I wouldn't have known that. If you hadn't, I wouldn't have even
done it. I was like so freaked out, and especially like I was
already feeling like it was a mess of a morning. You know, I'm
never I never not show up for work, you know, Yeah, I
don't. There was something about that whole thing. And I remember sitting there
going this up here, and I don't know at the time. Yeah,
it just whatever it was, I could tell like something wasn't right. You
just have this intuitiveness about people, right, this was out of character for
you. I knew what they were thinking. Didn't they suspend you at work?
Yeah? But not for that? Oh okay, what did you get
suspended? Form? Because I did something on the I said something on the
traffic report, like early on that they didn't think was appropriate or something,
And well I thought it was because of this incident. No. I was
trying to kick it to you guys, and I said, because you were
like, you should make the traffic report your own. Remember when we were
talking and I said something, and I have no idea what could be possibly
suspendable? You and I got suspended because you swore them the air once.
But I mean, like other than that, even the heat the gentleman we
were talking about earlier. When I got hired by him, like it was
he he was like my buddy, you know what I mean, all over
the station together and stuff. When I started working for you guys and you've
started to like me and bring me in on your conversations, all of a
sudden, the entire dynamic change. Yeah, sure, because he was very
intimidated. Yeah, it was all of a sudden, like I was part
of the cool kids and I wasn't there. I remember this. If you
are a boss, you're supposed to be a leader. And sometimes the best
thing a leader can do is just step back and listen and say nothing.
But when you start wearing your heart on your sleeve and you come up in
a conversation or come up on a conversation and act all timid and then say
to me, and I'm not kidding, this is what was said to me.
Uh yeah, you don't think much of me at all. You're like,
you know, you're like the quarterback everybody likes, and I'm just that
other guy. When when a fucking guy says that to you, Oh my
god, what is wrong with you? Yeah? I mean that I that's
not even I wanted to go, hey, man, go in to bathroom,
check that you have balls, because I don't believe you do. I
could not believe what I was hearing, and I knew then. So now
that's all I needed, right, that's all I needed. I'll never forget
I went into his I fucking stormed out of meetings on purpose, just because
I could. I screamed at that guy, put on your big boy pants
and figure it the fuck out. And you know what, every other manager
that all the manager's offices in this were together. You know what they did.
They got closer to stop their fucking door, and I bellowed, put
on your big boy pants. I mean I fucking so it rocked the walls.
Screamed, put on your big boy pants and figure it out. All
because you basically admitted to me that you were a giant pussy. And I
was like, well, then fuck you. That's it. You're not gonna
do that. But you know what that said to mean, There's not one
way you were ever gonna help me advance my career. You're never gonna help
me grow this thing. All you're gonna be is in the way and you're
a puppet. So that's fine. I'm gonna just kick your right in the
teeth every time. And I did you did? You did? I never
said that to anybody else, right now I did. Yeah No, But
I'm like, oh, okay, yeah wow. I once he said that,
I knew it was over. It was over. You changed, like
I didn't know if you thought I was going. No, I don't feel
that way, hey man, fuck off. Yeah you opened the door.
Yeah, you opened the door. And the thing was I could see like
and and people who act who come from a place of fear, uh you
know, they're that passive aggressive, everything's like a little dig in this and
that. And maybe we've all been there. I certainly have done things in
my own life that would be of that thing. And it is mostly motivated
by fear. And the other thing is like, at some point, you
just gotta go fuck it, man, I'm worth more than this shit.
I don't. He doesn't live in fear of anything. Either you're in with
you're with me, or you're not right right. And this guy was one
of these who you just wish he had like a little more, and he
started to get it a little bit at the end a little bit, because
he did kind of defend me a few times, but it was too late.
I was already like, that's looking for the exit as fast as I
good. I'm sorry. Yeah, just you know, being a man in
the room among men, you know, you show your weakness. Well,
I don't even you know, you don't even have to come and go here.
You know, those guys are ridiculous too, you know what I'm saying.
No, I mean like, oh, I have a little confident,
just confidence and if you don't just stay quiet, stay quiet. Because the
guy who U there was another guy who came in after our friend JT who's
no longer here. Yeah. Uh, that guy kind of impressed me because
he usually stayed quiet and then would have some ideas and things that I I
liked. I did, and I used to sit with him a lot.
But I wasn't a huge fan of the person overall. But I mean,
you know, I got it. I had more. I had respect.
I didn't have respect for the other guy. For me, it was the
opposite. But yeah, interesting, yep, well I could see that because
there was a lot of like, they did you dirty, They really did.
I mean, they did you both dirty, but they really did you.
Well, they did you no respect over there at all. You did
so much work, and they basically they did. I mean they were cool
with that. I mean I never had they were cool to me. I
just had certain things I wanted and they weren't gonna give it. They weren't
gonna let the ownership stuff happen. So I was out. Uh, Jamieson
went out on the street. Loved it, and we will get to some
Jamison on the street. He did it right here in Fairport, right,
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I forgot about that completely. No, there's always there's always something going
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bar and we put it jim down there and I had a stereo, any
big speakers, cranks your mother came from for three floors up because I think
he won't up. One of the guys, forget what he wrote down.
I think I was doing a whole dance and everything in his mouth when the
words won't come out, he's choking out. Everybody. You don't like Eminem
hun stuff? Listen? Why? Why? What's wrong with Eminem's trying to
sing? Get right on that mic? What do you say he's irrelevant?
Now? It's just what he makes his bad. What he makes his bad?
What's bad about it? It's just the same. He's just spearing out
the same dog. It's just so bad. Rolling Stones keep producing stuff.
They're cool, the Rolling Stones who listen to me? Everybody. Let's compare
what their streams are now compared what it used to be. And let's compare.
I bet people think the same thing. Well, old people can't stream
that recent music. They're also did his recent music, Yeah, compared through
his old music. What do you think he's gonna have on screences old stuff
because it was good, or his new stuff? His new stuff is old?
Yeah? Back then, what do you think he's just He's riding on
his his own cotail. So everyone's making the same stuff, and honestly it's
better. Okay, who's your favorite rapper, now rapper? Or who's your
favorite artist? Artists? All right, just give me your number one,
just one. One. Shouldn't be this hard. The Jamison ran top five.
All right, Well, why you think think like we're gonna go.
We're gonna do. Jamieson on the Street, reporting live from downtown Fairport,
New York. Jamison on the Streets. Who is it now? Lucky?
All right? Next near next question on the street is who is lucky?
And they are gonna tell you they're lucky, but they don't know lucky.
I'm lucky. They get to talk to you, So listen to this.
Jamieson went out today and h ran into people right around this fair Report area
historic Erie Canal. What's your name? And why are you? What do
you like about Rochester so far? Rockchester? Yeah, it's kind of been
to Rochester, Rochester the city. Yeah, we haven't been there. So
we just pulled in, literally just pulled in. Where do you guys are?
Where are you coming from? Austin, Texas? Austin, Texas,
that's pretty far, yes, sir? What brings you here? We decided
to do the Erie Canal Adventures. We saw it and thought that looked pretty
cool and haven't had a chance to ever do the Erie Canal. I grew
up, all of us grew up hearing about it, and you always had
to learn the song about the Erie Canal. And so this was this was
an opportunitist to kind of live a little bit of Americana. So all right,
so how many stripes are on the American flag? All right? Does
this person Austin Texas get this question right? How many stripes are on the
American flag? Now? Billy, I've been told that Austin is the blueberry
in the cherry pie that is Texas. Yes, that is true. So
I'm going to say that they still, though, are smart enough to get
this right. I'm gonna say they're correct, Okay, even though you don't
like the blueberry apparently. No, No, I'm going there in the summer
action. I'm just saying, I'm trying to give perspective. Yes, I
know, all right, like we play Hollywood Squares, right, Yeah,
you have to give like some reasoning for your answer. So what do you
say, Alex. I think Austin, Texas is like hipster Texas, so
he definitely does not know how many stripes? Does not know? Okay,
here we got no, yeah, thirteen all right, and how many stars?
Does he know? How many stars? Danny? You got the stripes?
A second? Yeah, the ogal, Yes, colonies you got it?
Yeah, counties. You gotta be this so, uh get it right
or wrong? I think you got it? Got it? Yeah, you
got the other one fifty all right, job, thank you, job,
thank you. Now I mean he got to the age where he starts to
forget things. Jamison said he never heard of the Eurie Canal song. You
never knew the Eurie Canal song. I Got a mule. Her name is
sal fifteen miles on the Emica. Now it's a good old buck and a
good old pan. Fifteen miles on the American. You don't know this song?
Heard shot? Yeah, your grandfather used to sing until anyone in my
ears were bleeding. Yeah the way, No it's not. It's a guy
named Carl Gunner something. Bridge, Yeah, low bridge, which now they
make it the bridge here. They have a real traffic problem in Fairport.
If the bridge goes up and the train's coming through, Like you get over
the bridge and then the train comes, it's like a it's a perfect storm.
Yeah, I'm gonna stop. If the bridge goes up for a boat
to go under, and then the bridge lowers down. You go, now
here comes the train and then you hit the one lane you know, the
one lane bridge. Yep, here and there, yeah, and there you
go. All right, Jamison back on the streets. Here's the number two
person. What's your name? And how many struts are on the American flow?
Okay? Her name was what fia by? Does fia By? No?
How many stripes are on the American flag? I'm gonna say no,
Oh, I have one more phone. I like this from a lot.
All right, we'll save it, We'll save it. You're here for a
few more days. We got more shows, We got more shows. Uh,
Danny says no, Alex now no. And how many stars are on
the American clip? All right? She said twelve or ten stripes? She
got to know the stars though, I mean that's like a staple. I
could see the stripes and I used to get this too, is the answer
all the time. When I did, it was always fitted two. And
they were so confident about it. Yeah, they were Porto Rico count Oh
Hawaii? Did they count well? Bagel pagoms added or no? No do
Mexico old Mexico. Here we go. Oh, I didn't ask you,
Alex. She thinks she got it. Yeah you said no, I said
no, No. I know Danny batting pretty good. Here. I used
to do this. I was Jamison before Jamison. Yeah, I was on
the cardhouse. Yeah, we should probably send me back out. I got
drinked it a couple Oh amen, fine, here here comes h I think
this is the last one you did. Yeah, all right, you made
fun of old people for forgetting and losing their mind so you can't remember what.
So this is the same one where they told us the keya Boy story.
I knew he already played this one. I didn't know. Watch him
cut this one up. I cut it up. So we took the Key
of Boys story out of it and we played this nothing stupid. I hope
they're not stupid. I'm stupid. Pressuring how many strikes are on the American
five for the fourth of je Off? How many? Sure I actually have
to ask me these questions? Um, I can give you a hint if
you genuinely don't know. I can't even think of a number. All right,
Jamison, what would be your hint if I genuinely didn't know you strike.
What's the age you strike when you become a teenager? Oh, okay,
that's a great hint. That's a great hint. Do you become a
teenager? Yeah? How could it be? Depending on what state it's in
the name thirteen. Danny was making a joke. Just just just relaxed.
Danny can yet fighting? Oh yeah, probably two of them. Oh,
I didn't ask get it right or wrong? I'm gonna say right right,
Alex, I'm gonna stay wrong because she said, why did you ask me?
Here we go. I want to say, there's like thirteen thirteen realities.
Okay, you learn something, Thank you for your Yeah, what's the
matter? Listen? You hear that music in the back? Yeah? What
is that? I don't know. It might have been music that was in
the background, so Connery, No, it's when you pause it. I
could still hear it. It's like muffled in the ear. Oh you know
why? It may it may be the uh the music music thing I had
bleeding through fifteen miles only here Riker now Jamison Moran coming up from an Alabama
fifteen Sorry, Uh, Danny was now something I didn't get into, and
Jamieson and I did go see one of these shows live in a VFW haul
down in Alabama. Wrestlings, Wrastling, I love Rugs, used to know,
I know you did, and Danny. It's the twenty fifth anniversary of
Rage in the Cage. No Hell in the Cell. The WWE had held
in the Cell before, but this was arguably some people considered this the greatest
Hell in the Cell match, maybe the greatest wrestling match ever because somebody almost
died, wasn't the one with mankind Undertaker mentally ill? Man off the Cage.
It was such an event, this particular thing he's talking about that I
watched it really. Oh yeah, there was, I know, no,
but it was on pay per view or something. We watched I graduated from
high school. It was on pay per view. It was that paper view.
It's pay per view. It was it was it was called King in
the Ring or something like that. It was. It was a pay per
view event, and this was like the second to last match, okay,
and it was a Hell on the Cell. So they brought in these fifteen
footsteal cages and put it around the ring, and leading up to the match,
Undertaker had a bum ankle and mc foley really wasn't getting a lot of
reception from the crowd, which is the worst thing you can get in wrestling.
So they're talking about the match and a guy named Terry Funk, a
longtime rustler, suggested to them, Hey, how did you were you into
wrestling? I used to watch it all the time? You did? So
Mick an undertake, how are we going to make this match work? And
Terry Funk goes, well, you could start the match on the top of
the cage. No one's ever done that. So they're like, okay,
So they start climbing up to the top of the cage, and even the
announcers like whoa, whoa, whoa, what are they doing on part of
the scrap? No? Yeah, no. At this point, the rustlers
were kind of figuring it out. They knew what the result was. You
know, the tooth is the tooth. We haven't gotten there yet. Yeah,
But but hang on a second. So if they were going up there
and it wasn't scripted, what eventually happened and we'll play the audio from the
event itself? Were they was he cognizant of what he did? Do you
think it was kind of like just a a one off, like he didn't
think he really hurt the guy like this or did he know he said that.
He said that he had an out of body experience that he thought he
was dead and all he was thinking was get up, Get up, Please
get up. It was nuts. They were on no but the play the
other I don't think the Undertaker realized he was going to throw him off the
top of the cage. It was like a spur of the moment thing.
Yeah, where they're like the cage is giving way. Yeah, so I
think he just threw them off. Thinky, he's gonna land on the because
all wrestlers are taught. The first thing they're taught is how to take what
they call a bump hitting landing on your back, right, So Undertaker thinks
I could just throw him and he's gonna hit the padding. Well he didn't.
He hit the uh the announcers table, and yeah, I mean he
went all Buffalo Bill's fan on Bill's Mafia. Jim Ross and Jerry Lawler are
doing commentary and Jim Ross was part of the creative process, but he didn't
know the results of the match. He and Jerry literally thought that mc foley
was dead. I'm fascinated that you know, it's it's twenty five years ago,
and it's a bit of a piece of it's five matches that everybody has
talked about over and over and I never did because I don't know him was
in on it because he started. Nobody knew it was gonna happen but him
and Yeah, they were in on it. But they go up on the
top of it. Yeah, yeah, because when he grabbed him, he
didn't throw me, grabb him by the shirt and pushed him a little.
And then but Mick jumped off of it like he had a little walk up
and ran and jumped off as he grabbed him by the shirt, he walked
him over and he grabbed like this. How do you know because I watched
it just earlier he grabbed him by the shirt. Well, as soon as
he went like this, make jumped off. So it looks like both of
them were in on the throw. Okay, well he was throwing wrong.
That is a what excuse bumps on my back there? They make the hair
on the next stand up. I like it. They're fighting on a on
a steel roof of the sale. They use it. That's a steel tear
that they're trying the US look at this a play through. He's broke through
a lot of weight. They're breaking through two three hundred pounders up there,
they're destroying the hell in the sell Oh my god, don't get him over
here where we are. What's gonna happen here? Hunter t of fighting back.
He's fighting back to the round the bottle of folks and I don't want
it to damn bit, Oh my god, killing they killed him. But
he's not getting up. He's wiggling. He's not getting up though. No,
well no, he did move his heads into the slip. Yeah,
so his head's part, but he's moving his legs in his arms. I
gotta get out here. Who's that? That's Jr. And Jerry Lawler and
they're trying to tell Vince, you gotta come out here now. Even though
it's the character, he's still the owner. So now he's got to come
out and break character and see if Mick's still alive. He just sixteen feet
So Terry Funk comes out, All these referees come out, paramedics come out,
and Mick convinces them to let him finish the match. Wow. They
want to put him on the on the gun and he's like, no,
I gotta finish the match. So but his tooth went through his lip.
Yeah? So many broken ribs? How many? Yeah? Yeah, he
broke several ribs. He sent one of his bottom teeth through his lip and
threw his nose. Yeah. He was like half awake and is bleeding and
dripping with black, pouring out with blood. Where did you watch this?
I think everywhere. He climbs back up to the top of the cage.
Undertaker eventually throws him back through the cage. He lands on the on the
on the mat right, So now, um, one of the referees has
to go or no. The ring doctor runs in and checks on him just
to make sure he's still okay. I'm fine, I'm fine. I get
up. So then Mick decides to take these tacks. He goes I learned
this trick in Japan. He takes these tacks right and just scatters them throughout
the ring, thinking he's gonna throw the Undertaker on him, and instead the
Undertaker ends up throwing him. I forgot how onto these tacks. After the
match mix getting like first date, He's getting the tax pulled out of his
arm and he looks at the Undertakers. Hey. Then I use those tacks,
Oh my god, because you're pulling him out of your arm, like
he couldn't remember. Then after it was all over, he went back and
interfered with the final match of the night, which was a championship match.
Wow. And that solidified his status as a legend in the WWE. That
match right there changed everyone's perception about mcfoley forever. Wow. And and and
showed you that some pieces of this fictional soap opera are pretty real. Yeah.
I mean things you can go bad. These are stuntmen. Yeah.
Like seven months yeah, seven months later he became the WWE champion. Yeah.
I remember there was a ladder match that was so similar with the Hardy
Boys, and the Hardy boy fell off the top of the ladder and like
he wasn't supposed to and it was really bad. And I just remember being
like, you know, those are the moments when I was like, Okay,
this isn't fun because that stuff's like scripted, but there's a little bit
of reality to it. And you've done reality TV any what was the worst
I mean, this is horrible, but what's the worst thing to happen in
like reality TV? Anything like that? Did you have stuff. Really,
Oh, all kinds of terrible thing really, yeah, shootings and all kinds
watching. Yeah, and in what kind of reality TV? Though, No,
no. I for a while I was doing a lot of programming on
VH one and hip hop, black ink, stuff like that, and there's
Yeah, there's a you know, there's an environment that comes with that that
show. There's a lot of falseness and reality television. I will tell you
that. Yeah, that show the first couple of seasons. For anybody who's
a fan, it was one hundred percent real. It was literally a producer's
dream. We were chasing story. We couldn't get enough. You know,
a lot of people will say like, oh my god, my life is
a reality show. Put a cameram me. These people meant it was a
reality show, and they had some you know that, they had some stuff,
some problems amongst them. Wow. Yeah. I remember one time I
had done several seasons of this show, and then the company wanted to do
sort of a similar show but with a restaurant. So we went into the
restaurant the first day and the executive from the company it was we TV.
She comes in. She was like, I know, you guys are all
black, Ink producers, and we really appreciate your peelv and like we love
what we're bringing to the project. But this isn't black Ink. You know,
we don't miss is we TV. We don't do violence, like we're
okay cool. Day one of shooting, we're standing in the restaurant. The
bartender comes into the building and punches the hostess right in the face. What
I swear to god, I don't know if she was like out because I
don't know if she heard like, oh this is the company that does you
know, oh blacking? Did you catch it on camera? Oh? Yeah,
it was the first scene of the night, like we were you just
you get oh yeah, and we'll fight. It's so funny. My friend
Michael, who was a producer on that show, broke up the fight and
at one point he hops over the bar and he grabs ahold of the hostess
because they're going at it, and he's got her in like a lifeguard hole
on the table and he looks at the camera and flips his air. It
was spectacular. It's one of the top five. Michael. I'll remember when
Nick Foley got hit with the bat that had barbar and a half of his
ear is gone. Now. I don't remember that too. I don't.
I didn't watch any of this stuff. And I mean I looked like his
whole ear was gone, half of his I was not a big fan.
Uh. Well, you know what could be a great reality TV show?
Uh the Buffalo Bills. You had all the drama right step. But then
Danny had some inside scoop what's going on with Josh Allen and the breakup of
his girlfriend. And then there's rumors that somebody else was maybe pregnant with his
child and all kinds of stuff. But Danny got some really got some intel,
yeah, Danny, Yeah, Yeah. So I hope all the podcasts
in the Buffalo area are listening to this one because we have the story here
and I had to confirm by another another source close to the situation. You
gotta do. They gotta get your sources, right, Alex, sources to
many sources? Do you need to confirm her story? You really only need
one good one, but you should have three or four? Really? Yeah?
Okay, So that's why I believe in Jesus, because there's four sources
that you know, the four Gospel. Oh yeah, ghost, that's three.
Oh you're talking about the gospel. Yeah, Matthew, Mark, Luca
John. Two of them weren't even really yeah. Yeah, they're just like
twelve Disciples, the twelve Apostles. So anyway, um tex text message from
a friend of ours, uh, and we've had I've had this confirmed twice.
And he says, I work with a girl here he's from Charlotte,
because I worked with a girl here at Charlotte whose roommate is Sam Donald's girlfriend.
Now, Sam Donald's a backup quarterback right now for the San Francisco forty
nine ers in with the Panthers. He was the third second overall pick.
The Jets took him the same year as Josh Allen. Right, he was
taking four spots in front of Josh. Sam and Josh hang out a lot.
I have good intel on the girlfriend. Josh wanted to break it off
with her for a while, he lost interest. Sam couldn't stand her,
None of his friends could stand her. He just didn't know how to break
it off. Wow, the rumor of impregnating another girl is nonsense. Now,
I gotta tell you, I got this confirmed by two different sources.
Okay, So now I remember seeing her a training camp once and she looked
like yeah, homespun wyoming pretty right, and then the money hit. Yeah,
and man, that chick like took it to a next left. Like
remember Dumb and Dummer where they opened up the briefcase by accident and there's millions
of dollars sitting there and they go and they buy a Lamborghini in those big
boots and they're wearing the span Dex. That's what she was. She became
stories going. You can tell a lot by a woman. The money sulks
right into her. Poor he saw that some great lines. Oh yeah,
he shoid right for television. He should have. I always say that too,
I've said that many times. Well interesting, Well, by sudden darkens
your doorway on the way to a party after a problem. But if you're
Josh Allen, do you need to like be scared to bring over your group
for it? M I don't know. Well, here's the other thing is
like I don't think when you're Josh Allen, you think of yourself as Josh
Allen necessarily right, You don't know realize how big you are. And Josh
Allen now is probably the biggest. He's on the cover of matten Red Carpets,
He's at every big sporting event. And then, um so, but
this is a girl. You knew what it was, a high school girl.
Frist college. Yeah, I think high school. My family loves her,
everybody loves her. She moved out here for me. She's put up
with all this stuff. I've got all these fans my time, my I
mean, you know what I'm saying, Like, there is a thing that
you become guilt and you can look at Josh Allen and go, he's a
sweet guy. I mean it's a competitive motherfucker for sure, but I mean
he's a sweet Guy's got a little kelly them and I think that there's there's
that where you just you know, yeah, all right, yeah, I'll
deal with it. It's not that bad over over and then yeah, just
ye got your phil Yeah enough you start the rumor or somebody else started the
rumor about the pregnant I don't know if it was. I don't know.
Girl. Yeah, they're they're like after they lost. If they had won,
this wouldn't have been a thing. But after they lost the Cincinnati,
of course everyone's gonna this is. This is not uncommon in Buffalo to start
a rumor after something bad happens and they lost this game to Cincinnati, so
that's when the rumors started. Yeah, there were rumors about Kelly back in
the nineties, there were rumors about Dominic. But is it like like the
rumor would be distracting from the game of football. Well, that's what they're
saying, that it was distracting Josh Yes from playing at his best in a
game that was crucial. Yeah, that's pretty much like like that. People
try to tie the stuff digs with him his hands out looking at Josh like
we're trying to win this game. You're distracted. Blah blah blah. People
putting connecting the dots. We have the dots right here on Bill of Fight.
It's connected, that's right, not dippin dots, no real dots.
That's right. But that your podcast and smoke it. There you go for
Alex. Been a pleasure, Alex catching up hearing about reality TV. For
Dan Barillo, it's always bringing great Bill's insights. For Jamison on the Street,
the man, I'm Bill Moran, We'll see you tomorrow. I'm a
TV gonna do the letter to you. Dad s