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Whin your old career gives you lemons
throwing some ice mix in some vodka.

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We call it a podcast from the
Mac of All Trade Studio in Fairport and

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driven by Victor Chrysler, Dods Jeep
Ram. It's Bilified the Bill Moran Podcast.

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Well, hello and welcome. Thanks
for getting your pot on, Thanks

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for telling a friend. Oh what
a show we got tonight, Danny,

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Yeah, big one Bill former intern
turned Big TV producer Alex is in studio.

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Lots to talk about and catch up
on with Alex Jamish and his back

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see that did more on the street
and actually uncovered a really inter resting thing

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that I don't think he really been
caught when the lady said it, but

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I was like, wow, do
you know what you did here? So

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we'll get to that find Jimmy Hoffa
No, no, but Danny, Yes,

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Religion in the news today. Isn't
it always more religion in the news

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today. I'm assuming that's it's it's
it's a religion you can make fun of.

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No, okay, can you make
fun of any religion? You shouldn't.

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Spaghetti according to the Bible, Alex, No, yeah, that was

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this spaghetti. I always always told
that it was not supposed to poke fun

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to anyone's religion. Read the Bible
ten times through. Never read that never.

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Maybe maybe it's on the Maccabees,
a Catholic version. I don't feel

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you might have fallen asleep in that
part of it. Okay, I might

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have loved you. No. Uh. Did you hear about the woman?

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Yeah, who stole sixty thousand dollars
from a ninety year old I heard about

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this. The question is did she
give her six thousand to Jesus? Well,

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I don't know. That would be
tithing and that would be ten percent.

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That's a great question. Uh,
this woman, though, I am

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percent. This lady. Your name
is Alpha Alpha D Harris. She's sixty.

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Uh. She is a minister at
the Powerhouse Kingdom Cathedral Church of God

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in Christ. Was Harris is a
minister at the past Let me say that

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again, Powerhouse, Kingdom Cathedral,
Church of God in Christ. That's a

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lot going on there. Wow of
God in Christ. The Powerhouse compels you.

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How long do you think the services
of that church? Oh, my

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gosh, I'll probably go to two
three o'clock in the afternoon. That's probably

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the ones on TV on the public
as excess channel where you get the lady,

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you know, Hallelujah staring at the
stir of the window with her arms.

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That's what I mean, praisey Jesus. Now now that's not can fund

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to tell you right now. No, no, I could say that.

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Okay, I used to belong to
a church like that. All right.

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Um. I did talk to the
Monroe County Sheriff's office today to say,

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what, you know, what really
wanted will be her omega will be the

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omega, the alpha and the omega. What's your omega game? That name

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beginning in the end. Yes,
she uh, she's the beginning for alpha

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alpha female. She uh. So
Here's what Deputy Hurley told me earlier today

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about this case. Actually how it
how it all kind of went down.

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Yeah, so this was actually a
very switched on bank employee who happened to

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notice some suspicious activity on the victim's
account, made the right decision to notify

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authorities, got us involved. The
deputies went out, they checked on the

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welfare of the victim, started talking
with the victim and her power of attorney

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to find out what was going on. We have the luxury here to have

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a group of environmental crimes investigators.
That's all they do. They look into

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financial crimes and in those kinds of
situations, so they actually have the time

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to really dig into a case like
this where you're looking through bank records and

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something that's going on for months at
a time, not just you know,

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a day or two, So they
actually have the time to sit down and

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go through all this, look through
it, and you know, they discovered

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that what this person was doing essentially
was having the victims signed checks and then

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filling out the checks for the victim
that end incorrect amount. Right, They

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had an agreed upon rate for the
home healthcare. And this is this is

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what makes this one so disturbing,
right, because you had a home health

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aid, which means you need help
taking care of yourself. We don't to

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whatever extent that may be. But
you're trusting this person, so you're she

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nick him. I'm told they had
a hard time writing and would simply sign

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the checks and then the home healthy
would fill them out to whatever amount she

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wanted to. Yeah, wow,
said have some more healing oil of the

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spirit. Can you believe that?
Wow? They had forensic accountants working out

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of this. Well, somehow somebody
at the bank goes man. There's a

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little bit of suspicious activity here.
I know she's a ninety year old lady.

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Maybe I haven't seen her in a
while. She bought an acre more

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money's gonnaut sixty grand, so she's
writing the checkout for herself. And I

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always say in these cases, you
get greedy, all right. You know,

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you start with maybe I don't know, five hundred dollars more than they

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agreed upon amount, and it's a
thousand, and you know this had to

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go on for a while to add
up to sixty thousand, because you're not

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taking sixty thousand or even ten thousand. Yeah, it's always a little bit

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of time. You don't want like
the person because she's tellably one of these

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old ladies that like has a ledger
right, no, the exact yeah salar

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amount in her bank account. She
may not because she she can't write as

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well anymore, so she maybe trusting
others to do it. Maybe, yeah,

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you know, and that's what she's
probably going through, like because so

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but knows well enough that like if
she wrote a sixty thousand dollars checks,

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you know, the boddy be gone, yes, all right, right,

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right, right, right, or
at least her bank would be like,

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yo, you a check for sixty
thousand or have you lost your man?

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It had to be going you have
to think it had to be going up

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incrementally for the bank person to catch
on to this. Yeah, like if

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I if I like cross state lines
and use by credit card. Oh,

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mister Brello, did you did you
buy twenty eight dollars worth of gas at

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Bjre's right here? But here who's
writing checks? But a ninety year old?

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Of course? You know what I
mean. You're hind him atmans A.

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Dude, it's the worst. Now, the Monroe County Sheriff's Office offers

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something for people in case something like
this happens, and if you have an

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older parent and a grandparent or somebody
that you would hate to see, take

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an advantage of. So the Sheriff's
Office here in Monroe County, we have

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several different programs that we provide our
excellent community engagement deputies. We have one

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at each zone and have a couple
that are based out of downtown here.

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There's different You know, people think
of senior scams, right, and I

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was like to say it, it's
just scams in general, because you don't

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have to be an older person to
fall for a scam. Right, it's

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one of the oldest professions in the
world, is you know, scams,

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and so we offer preventative crime prevention
tips, right, what to do if

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you think you're being scammed, how
not to get scammed if you if you

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have been scammed, what to do? You know, stuff like that,

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What are you laughing at? Don't
run for president. I think it added

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up to sixty thousand because they were
like, Okay, they're not catching on

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to this much. Let me try
this much. But I still not catching

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on. Let me do this much. I think it's somebody who knew what

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they were doing, and I think
they were You might start by taking a

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couple hundred over and that didn't stop. So she did a direct check of

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sixty grand. Like no, no, no. It was like so in

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other words, I come in and
you're you're paying me. Let's say it's

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uh fifteen hundred dollars for the month, and then you say, I can't

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write the check. I'm just gonna
sign it. You filled out fifteen hundred,

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so you write it for seventeen hundred
and you keep two hundred for yourself.

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And the next time it's eighteen,
and the next time it's two thousand.

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I got security. So at some
point it accumulated up, and then

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finally, at some point she got
a sixty grand check. No no,

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no, no, no, this
over stole sixty grand total total in total

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of all the checks. Yeah,
no, there you got it. That's

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good. That's the prices showcase showdown
on prices, right, it is actual

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retail price. So what happens to
this lady? Oh gosh, and her

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church. Okay, her not the
ninety year old. The ninety year old

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I didn't get they could do a
go fund me. She would probably have

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been Omega in her own church.
Yeah, but usually, like a lot

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of times, if you're the pastor, you might be the treasurer too.

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No, but okay, all right, but here's the thing. Let's say

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she's not what is the one thing
that Christians are supposed to do forgive?

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Yes, supposed to forgive? Yes? So will she be forgiven? She

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could be forgiven? Mean that she
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You know what I'm saying. It's
like it's like, yes, there's forgiveness

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and stuff, but they're still like, you still committed to Chris. What

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if she stood up when they have
the prayer request or someone to someone who

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goes with her, stands up and
says, can you pray for Alpha?

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Yeah? For Alpha was a thief. Mother Alpha, she took a turn

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to the evil, to the dark
side, and now we need to pray,

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maybe lay hands, maybe lay her
hands to bring her back to the

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light. I think, depending on
the church, yeah, they would do

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that. I think you're right.
They would think. If she comes forward

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and it's like I feel very genuine
about this, I'm sorry I did this,

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and you know, please forgive me
for my sins. I think those

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people in the church would be like, you know what, j Yeah,

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they must forgive her. However,
that doesn't mean they must restore her job.

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Will we forgive you? But you
got some of that money left?

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Are you gonna run me some of
that? It'll cost you a little bit

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for me to forgive Javison. That's
good, that's good, Javidson. Uh.

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While somebody did make a comment on
one of the local news channels,

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oh, too many people take advantage
of elderly who are sick or mentally impaired.

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That was definitely the person who scam
though I strongly feel that someone who

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does such a crime should be put
for public viewing for an entire year,

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on display in a bulletproof plexiglass box, and payback four times what they stole.

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I agree, Hunter Biden should be
on display. So what kind of

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punishment should we have for for things
like this, things like public shaming?

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Well, I mean, would that
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lot of people go, well,
you can't shame and you shouldn't fat me.

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You know, I actually agree with
that. I have said, I

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have said a little bit of shame
that's not so bad. Kind of keeps

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society think. I think I think
we need to bring back a little bit.

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Remember like twenty years ago, fat
shamed over the weekend. No stealing

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from no stealing. You're right,
that is a crime. That is a

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crime. But I got I'll just
say, just in terms of what shame

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does, right, I got a
little fat chame and I have since the

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weekend. I'm down at least five. Yeah, I'm down seven right now.

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My My wife, ice cream shave
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Yeah see, ye see, a
little shaming work. But that let's

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take it to the crime world said
it wasn't. I mean, you know,

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fat chaming is not a crime.
This is a crime. But I

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mean, what what is this woman
gonna have to do? What we can?

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We shouldn't be putting her in jail. The sixty year old why for?

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What for stealing six to get up
from an old person? But here's

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the thing we gotta set. I
don't want to be to set the example

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guy. But she took full advantage. It's like, we bitch about these

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kids stealing kids, get back on
this m in and we don't. We

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have overcrowding in jails already, right, the only good Yeah, but we

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don't have enough room. We don't. We don't have room. So so

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let's say we need to do something
else. What would be an alternative?

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I kind of like, I kind
of like the sandwich board. Oh well,

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you know, yeah, I hate
it that when parents did it to

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the kids, that I hate.
But when he actually committed a crime,

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it would be great if we could
have you go to every suburb around whatever

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city you committed the crime in You've
got to do a day in the suburb

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in the plexi glass box, so
like, you know, shit, that

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would be funny. Yeah, it
would be like, let's say they stole

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hypothetically from like a Dick Sporting goods, right, and you put him in

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the plexiglass box. They have to
hold up a sign this as I stole

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from Dick Sporting Goods. But like
the words are spelled out, but like

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the word I, you know,
stole dicks, or you could put from

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in like tiny letters in other words, like it really embarrassed them, you

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know, And well, yeah,
because if we're look, if we got

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a public if we're gonna publicly shaven, let's do it right, Let's get

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our money's worth here. There was
a judge that did that about twenty years

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ago, that was and he he
got a lot of flak for it,

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but it prevented people. I'm doing
stuff. I think there was a sheriff

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in Arizona. They used to have
people who committed crimes wear a pink jumpsuit

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and they had to go out something
like something like yeah it was in Arizona,

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and Arizona out there. Yeah.
DMX is actually infamously known for being

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out in the pink jumpsuits. I
was on a producing a reality show where

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I picked somebody up from that jail. You did, I did, Wait

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a second, what was the reality
show? Black Ink crew on pH one.

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Okay, yes, one of our
cast members and ran from the law

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for a little too long and ended
up having to serve some time. So

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when she was done, we went
and picked her up and up. Yeah

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she was living in tents outside in
a pink jumpsuit. Wow, wow,

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working in the sunshine in the Arizona
heat. And yeah, I think he

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made all the prisoners wear pink jumpsuits. It's a dry heat and he doesn't

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know which is worse. You know
what it does to food? It bakes,

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Yeah, it does. It literally
bakes. Make sure at least you

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get a little bit, you know
on the oven is uh remember that kid

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um? I think I forgot maybe
I forgot what name was the caning they

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wanted to Singapore. He was spray
painting cars like I was like thirteen,

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fourteen years old. He was spraying
painting cars, and so they please market

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Singapore. Yes, yeah, yeah, And he got his canings reduced from

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six to four canings, right,
and people are like, should we bring

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Canning to the United States? Got
like two weeks of shows out of that.

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Yes you cane. Those Kia boys, yeah, all have your keyas

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bad. Yeah, Canning for kids. I mean imagine that, Jameson.

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Honestly, like, you steal a
Kia and someone's like, your punishment is

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public caning, which means they're gonna
whip you with a bamboos with a bamboo

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stick. With a bamboo stick,
I mean, they beat you with a

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bamboosterbo would you no, But that's
not that, that's not it. They

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caught you and now they're gonna bring
you to the public square right here,

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right along the canal. Everybody can
come out. Ults are pulling up,

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people see you, ringing bells.
Shame with a shame beat a bunch of

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cars in the canal. It would
be terrible. Yeah, those kids.

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I think maybe this lady should get
caned. Oh first she brings up forgiveness.

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Yeah, and then she brings up
cane. I don't go to this

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ladies church. That's what I'm saying. The church within the church. Yeah

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right, yeah. By the way, separation of church and state. Yeah,

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when is the crime? You know? Church? You know, they

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definitely need to at least they got
sopped up. Your parish can forgive you,

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but the state doesn't. Yeah.
Yeah, you stole from a ninety

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year old woman who couldn't help herself. Right, that's awful. And there's

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a reason, Like you think about
this, like she had she was a

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home health aid, which this lady
wanted to trusted in her home, which

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means she trusted to have somebody in
her house. Like, I mean,

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what was next, she was gonna
kill her? I have her put her

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in her will. Think about that. I've been listening to far too much

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Dayline. It's a possibility. Yeah, yeah, really, my wife watches

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all those shows too. Their podcast
is basically just like a kind of a

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rehash of their shows, but they're
kind of quick episodes like half an hour,

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and man, it's always the husband
a hundred percent of the time.

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And you know, it's stuff like
that, Like you know that you get

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a caregiver and all of a sudden, everything so well, and she was

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a best family friend and before you
know it, she's stolen the whole family

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jewels, and she's locked the family
out of the apartment, and she's killed

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the cats, and like it's a
full things of attorney. Yeah, it's

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nut. There was a case of
a lady on the Upper West Side who

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was like had it in home caregiver
and she passed away and the caregivers like,

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well, this is a rent control
department on the Upper West Side,

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I'm staying. Yeah, basically double
middle fingers to the family, and they

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cannot they can't a victor out really, maybe that's what Doug felt. Possessions

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with all the woman's stuff, Why
can't they get her out because she wasn't

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was she in the will? No, but she was like she was staying

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there and there's like squatters r s
Watter's rights or something, and she was

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the main caregiver of the home and
she had mail coming there or something.

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So that's your residence. Yeah,
it takes a lot for a landlord.

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Actually, Like renters kind of have
the ball in their court most of the

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time because it takes a lot.
Could you wake up and walk around knowing

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what the fuck? Did you know? What I mean? Like I just

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wouldn't. Yeah, don't you have
a little bit of like conscious wouldn't you

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feel uncomfortable a little bit? Yeah? But these people don't see it that

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way. They think that they're good
people. Yeah, look at Al Capolla,

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I'm a good guy. Mobsters,
Oh good, I'm just taking care

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of my family. Well, the
key boys, they feel like they're good

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guys. I did see on Reddit
this written by somebody says, driving on

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Goodman, see a Honda coming up
behind me, trying to pass on the

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left. Now, if you're on
Goodman, it's it's really depending on where

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you are. It's just two lanes. You can't do that. Even though

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there were it's tons of oncoming traffic
and no room to pass. The Hundai

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squeezed through the gap that didn't exist, causing both lanes of traffic to swerve

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out of the way and almost crashed. Ten seconds later, police cruisers come

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chasing, going very fast during probables. But they're saying probably sixty to eighty

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miles per hour down Goodman with their
lights on. I wonder if they caught

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the guy wanted to find out,
but they were gone by the time I'd

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reached the next light. The whole
situation is fucked, is what they right,

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And it is because someone's gonna get
killed, some innocent persons, someone

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not involved in the crime, is
going to get killed. But Jamison did

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go out documentary on YouTube this guy
and goes because he's from Milwaukee. He

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goes to the Milwaukee neighborhood and interviews
Kio Boys, Keel boys. One of

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the Kyoboys where twelve jumped out of
the car after just leaving it in the

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middle of the road and gotten on
the interview. He did, Yeah,

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they're like twelve. They ran from
twelve to at the oldest like sixteen or

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fifteen. But there's like eleven year
olds and ten year old there was some

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in New York City and eight year
olds. Stole a hun die and an

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eight year old eight year old in
the back of the ten year old job.

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I'd like the interview sounds like it
would be interesting. I can send

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you the link. It's yeah,
it's a whole it's literally a doc it's

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not a documentary. This guy his
name's uh, but it doesn't matter,

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right. He so and what does
he do? He goes and just talk.

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He tracked down these Keya Boys and
talk to them. Yeah, he

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was on the news for it.
Is it Kia boys like a thing around

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here or yea social media thing.
It's like a social media thing. So

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I think it's gone. If you're
stealing, you're part of the key of

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Boys. Okay, the franchise,
they franchise, they've got Rochester great started.

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Is this it? Jamison? See
if you can connect to Uh see

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if you can connect to the bluetooth
here, and let's see if we can

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play a little bit of this.
Le'll just play a little bit. Yeah,

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are you connect? See? It's
called the Look at Tommy G Kia

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Boys documentary. Look at look at
your bluetooth to see if it's connect.

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Ok, I'm sorry, all right
now to connect it? Pops up?

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Are you good? Let's see what
we got here? All right, it's

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connected? Okay, Well, first
an ad, could you show us well

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how it looks to steal a car? Car? What your guys, That's

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what I'm gonna do real quick.
All right, now we're good to go.

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And they have the key Boy dance. Hello everybody, my name is

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Tommy G. And today I'm going
boots on the ground cover a notorious group

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of kids, the Keya Boys.
These kids are legendary for the amount of

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cars they are stealing. Him.
Did you fast forward? Did you well?

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I wanted to hear what he was
gonna say. I drove on a

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school campus swerving. Yeah, well
they did that here too. They did

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that here at East High They went
driving right no, down on the grass.

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The grass sent me all right,
don't don't do anymore. I wanted

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to hear that guy. You're you're
bouncing all over. But that's all right?

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What is this him again? Let's
roll the tape so I could tell

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you what they do. Bro,
Look at these dumb Ska boys. Oh

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my god, what are they doing? I caring in it out of traffic

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against the flow? Wow? Does
he interview these kids at all? That

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car right there? Yeah, they
didn't get hurt. They just jumped right

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out the car and let it crashed. Wow, and let the car crash.

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The car down to the tires is
what the roof went to, and

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they jumped out. I don't know
if they died or jumped that. They

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hit a car, swerved and jumped
out before it all right, We'll go

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through that at some point and grab
the actual interview. Leave everybody. Well,

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I don't want to be skipping around
here. No, the world missed

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up. What percentage of Kia boy
stays trapped when they ride around town?

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I go at least sixty percent?
Oh it got good. Do your mom's

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know that you do this? She
know I gotta for that ship. I

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got a case for. What does
she say? Does she tell you,

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like, hey, you guys can't
be doing this. She tell me not

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to do it. I'll be listening
to her. Two people. I don't

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could know this either, y'all.
I tried to stop it. So,

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yeah, what's your advice to these
young guns out here? Man? Stop

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doing that shit, pick a bag
up, wind your lines up, you

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buy your own car. The people
are stealing cars as kids. So they

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get a slap on the wrist and
get word right out. What our big

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dog? How you doing? You
got the cardiers looking fresh man? Well,

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I'll go through the audio at some
other point, but that that's interesting

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because what the kids saying is,
my mom knows I have a case,

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but the case means he's going before
a judge in court. Yeah, I

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know it's a misdemeanor, but that's
it. So Jamison went out on the

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street today and he was asking questions
and things, but listen to this.

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He had a conversation. He asked, if your kid was a keya boy,

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what would you do if a keya
boy was your son? What would

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you tell them? If a kia
if a keya boy, have you heard

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of them yet? You are going
around in the cars and a keyboard of

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the fence and kicked his eyes all
right, what would you tell him?

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Though? So, oh yeah,
listen to this this one lady, this

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other lady's gonna jump in. Listen
to what she says. Advice for an

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ambe he'll end up in jail,
definitely, it's but it's sad. It's

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only a misdemeaning. So they're just
coming back about two days but can get

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out and it's like a twenty maybe
two months or all of their Yeah,

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but what we'll think, what we're
wondering is what would you do, Like

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if you owned a Kya, what
forrecautions would you take? Man, Well,

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I just latched someone. My daughter
lives in the city and touching trying

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for a place that heil was stolen. And this poor guy he was taking

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his scannery out of this car at
night and bringing it in the apartment and

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coming back every day. I'm reading
it and that's sad. And he felt

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fortunate because it was stolen and was
in trap. Did you hear that this

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guy who lives in the city of
Rochester has a Kia and every night he

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would take the fucking battery of the
car out and then before he went to

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work, he'd put it back in. And he felt fortunate because they tried

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to steal it. The battery,
they can't start it, so they just

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just kind of damaged it inside.
And he felt fortunate. And this is

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happening because you can literally pop the
top off certain models. Yes, you

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can pop the steering column. You'd
take a screwdriver, you pop out the

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key, ignition doesn't matter, and
then you plug it in and it just

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turns and goes. Kia taking any
responsibility is I mean, they're they're trying,

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and Hundai too in certain models,
and they've offered I think they've they've

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sent the club to people, so
the steering wheel can't be driven and all

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that, and I think there but
the problem is that some people are have

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the push button start, but the
guys who are trying to steal the car

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or the people trying to steal the
car don't know it till they get in

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it. So like Berkeley bringing from
News to NBC has push button star Kia,

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you can't steal that. But they
had busted the back window to try

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to get in, and then they
realized they couldn't steal it, so they

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went on to the next Yeah,
right where the tires as a gap.

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Yeah, put it in there.
You rip it, then it's a little

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off. You grab it and tear
the rest off. Then there's a surrounding

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key of the metal. Yea,
they break that off too, they grab

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it. Could literally take three to
five minutes, just maybe less. Plug

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it in right here, twist it's
one. Just take off. Yeah.

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Yeah, it's crazy. It is
absolutely and the I mean, so these

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boys are young, so they're getting
a misdemeanors, Like at some point is

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the penalty going to be stiffer because
they're trying to do stuff. There's even

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proposals. I mean, I think
no idea is a bad idea, But

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there was a guy in here,
and I don't think Josep was running again,

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but he had proposed do we go
after the parents' insurance right to pay

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for all the damage? Because the
person who gets screwed in this is the

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person whose car's gone, you know
what I mean. The only person that's

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a pain in the ass to unless
I get hit by the stolen car,

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is the person. Right, that's
it. If it's your car stolen,

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that's it. You're out of it. You can't find it, You've got

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to pay for the impound. We
had talked to a woman who had gone

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through and all this show. Yeah, my car got stolen once and I

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had to pay for it to get
out of impound and pay all the tickets

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that I had on it when they
found it and everything. It was thousands

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of dollars. You're kidding, And
they wouldn't let you have it back unless

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you paid all that. Yep,
I could not get it out and I

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came to the impound one my police
report and everything, like I had a

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legit, they legit took it and
I had to pay. Wow, over

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a thousand dollars. They don't care. They do not care. They don't

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care. And you gotta pay cash
to You can't bring a credit card.

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It's got to be cash, cash
money. And she could she could care

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less what kind of a day I
was having. I was like, but

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man, my car was stolen,
Like, here's my police report. It's

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like that'll be like they hire professional
assholes to run these shows. I'm not

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choking, like, yeah, run
these Why don't we wait until we're all

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just because it's hard for people to
see you know what I'm saying, Well,

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we're talking and you can't it's hard
to That's all right, sor right.

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Actually, we'll take a moment we
come back, We'll catch up with

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Alex, find out what she's been
up to. And then there's a story

408
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:21,359
that I remember when Alex is with
us that they're no and it's there was

409
00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:23,519
a case in the news not too
too long ago. We'll get to that.

410
00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:27,160
Are you ready for the best night
of summer? Danny always Billy Flower

411
00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:32,119
City Brewers Fest looking forward to it. Friday, August eighteenth, No Friday's

412
00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:37,720
a bad Friday. We got especially
that's right. Rowerbock Brewing Company, Rochester's

413
00:27:37,759 --> 00:27:41,079
original craft brewery's hosting. It's gonna
be at the Public Market. There'll be

414
00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:45,279
live music from Brothers Blue. You
can enjoy food from all the favorite food

415
00:27:45,279 --> 00:27:49,640
trucks of Rochester, sampling unique brews
from over sixty five breweries. That's right,

416
00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:52,480
And just think about the public Market. It's spaced out, Yeah,

417
00:27:52,599 --> 00:27:56,960
all down that path right all the
way through. I mean it's like a

418
00:27:56,119 --> 00:28:00,599
path of beer. Yeah, it's
likens. It's the yellow brick Road.

419
00:28:00,799 --> 00:28:03,319
Yes, the yellow brick Road.
I love it. Beer. Roorback Brewing

420
00:28:03,319 --> 00:28:08,119
Company is bringing all these breweries together, and you're gonna get things from Barrelaide

421
00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:12,079
stouts, heavily fruited sours, which
are becoming very popular with people. They

422
00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:15,680
are, yeah, lots of IPAs, everything in between and will be there

423
00:28:17,039 --> 00:28:21,920
now. Like Danny said, vip
he indicated doesn't say, but VIPA is

424
00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:25,599
sold out, which just shows you
how popular this is and how you need

425
00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:26,400
to jump on it. You know, next year. If you want to

426
00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:30,960
be a vip let's get to it. But general mission tickets are still available,

427
00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:33,920
and you can visit Flower City Brewers
Fast dot com slash tickets to get

428
00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:37,640
your tickets. For the Best Night
of Summer. Friday, August eighteenth,

429
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:44,000
Flower City Brewers Fast hosted Buyer Friends
at Roarbock Brewing Company, Rochester's original craft

430
00:28:44,039 --> 00:28:48,400
brewery. Manscape dot com. Get
twenty percent off your purchase with code bill

431
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:53,559
twenty at manscape dot com. Comedy
at the Carlson has the Laughter Union and

432
00:28:55,039 --> 00:28:59,599
some new talent coming with the Funniest
Person in Rochester contest that kicks off next

433
00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:06,000
way July fifth. So if you're
getting assaulted with some comics at your Fourth

434
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:07,960
of July party or some jokes,
it's somebody who may be in the contest,

435
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:11,519
you should come out and support them. I'm telling you it's always fun

436
00:29:11,599 --> 00:29:15,839
to see and by the end you
can see some really really talented people come

437
00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:21,039
through there. Actually there was one
year that it was a friend of our

438
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:23,640
son was in it. Oh really
yeah, yeah, I don't want to

439
00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:26,960
embarrass anybody, but yeah, they
do well. Got to the finals.

440
00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:30,400
Oh wow, I got to the
finals. This kid has got a very

441
00:29:30,519 --> 00:29:34,559
unique style and it was at great
stage presence and stuff. But it's always

442
00:29:34,599 --> 00:29:37,279
fun to go to this. And
it kicks off July fifth, so you'll

443
00:29:37,319 --> 00:29:42,119
have the preliminary rounds every night with
two shows Friday and Saturday, and I

444
00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:48,519
maybe even two shows Sunday right up
through July ninth there. So it's one

445
00:29:48,559 --> 00:29:52,880
straight full week of preliminary rounds,
right, So it's everybody in the first

446
00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:57,279
one and then they have to whittle
down every night. There's ninety people in

447
00:29:57,359 --> 00:30:02,200
this contest. Oh yeah, nine
people doing it comedy at the Carlston.

448
00:30:02,279 --> 00:30:03,640
I'm telling you, it's one of
the best ones. And here's why you

449
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:07,559
got to bring your friends, right
and who your friend's gonna vote for you,

450
00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:11,720
that's right, But everybody in the
audience has to vote for your top

451
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:15,759
unless you saw they did top three
in US. It's a joke on you

452
00:30:17,119 --> 00:30:19,599
the top three their favorite three comics
that they saw that night. So it

453
00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:23,079
really balances it out because there are
people who have very few people in the

454
00:30:23,079 --> 00:30:26,000
audience supporting them, who have made
it all the way to the finals,

455
00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:30,279
you know. So it does it
does help by develops very funny yes,

456
00:30:30,319 --> 00:30:33,920
and Doug Phelps, isn't it.
So check it out and you can find

457
00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:37,279
out more information at Carlston Comedy dot
com. Leave Bill voicemail anytime at five

458
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:41,160
eight five two o six eighty eight
sixty six and be sure to like and

459
00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:47,119
subscribe to Blified wherever you get your
podcast. And because Alex and you and

460
00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:48,799
I were all part of the break
room, yeah, yeah, and there

461
00:30:48,799 --> 00:30:51,839
were the day the world was supposed
to ed. We were all together,

462
00:30:52,079 --> 00:30:57,359
yes, And Alex was an intern
and I remember having her do a bit

463
00:30:57,480 --> 00:31:03,240
like somebody did a bit, and
I remember I snapped yeah over the audio,

464
00:31:03,279 --> 00:31:07,759
do you remember? I yelled,
oh good, do you remember?

465
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:11,400
Yes? And Tommy's like starts laughing
and stuff, and I go, you

466
00:31:11,519 --> 00:31:12,759
start playing it and you can't hear. It's like all garbled, and I

467
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:18,799
go, honey, do you have
ears? Yeah? I don't think.

468
00:31:18,839 --> 00:31:21,119
I don't think I said, honey, I think I said, I go

469
00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:26,559
do your ears work? Could you
how could you possibly think that this could

470
00:31:26,559 --> 00:31:29,079
be played on the radio. I'm
sure I know I said that into a

471
00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:30,519
microphone. Do you remember? Yeah? Wow? Yeah, And you don't

472
00:31:30,559 --> 00:31:34,599
remember it. You just stood there
and then like I think, everyone's like,

473
00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:37,640
oh god, oh god, why
is he doing this? Yeah?

474
00:31:37,799 --> 00:31:41,119
I probably blacked out. Well,
I was an asshole. I blacked out

475
00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:44,799
most of my life. And that
wasn't because I wanted to, it just

476
00:31:45,079 --> 00:31:49,799
it was a second bat Blue paid
an asshole all the time. I said,

477
00:31:49,839 --> 00:31:52,000
you weren't an asshole all the time. Not all the time. You

478
00:31:52,079 --> 00:31:56,480
were one of my favorite people to
work for. Yes, yeah, well

479
00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:57,720
you know I was trying to try
to be cool. We had fun.

480
00:31:57,839 --> 00:32:00,119
We had a lot of fun to
left. When she left, she did

481
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:04,279
a She recorded a good bye message
for us, and one of the things

482
00:32:04,319 --> 00:32:08,079
she said about Tommy was something the
effect of, I don't even remember a

483
00:32:08,119 --> 00:32:13,079
good bye message. Oh yeah,
she recorded a good bye message anything,

484
00:32:13,799 --> 00:32:16,960
huh, you don't remember anything really
well, And the message was, Tommy,

485
00:32:17,039 --> 00:32:25,079
you make look doing nothing look incredibly
difficult. That was pretty good,

486
00:32:25,519 --> 00:32:30,240
or how hard doing nothing really is? Yeah? Now I do remember,

487
00:32:30,079 --> 00:32:34,799
uh. I think there was an
uncomfortable moment with a program director. Do

488
00:32:34,839 --> 00:32:37,400
you remember this where he wanted you
to do a video and you said something

489
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:38,920
to me and I'm like, oh, don't do it. Oh yeah,

490
00:32:39,039 --> 00:32:44,039
because he was trying to get like
you, trying to get cleaning in there,

491
00:32:44,079 --> 00:32:46,279
and he wanted it to be a
little saucy and I wasn't. But

492
00:32:46,519 --> 00:32:51,079
and you said, you said to
me quietly like it really makes me uncomfortable.

493
00:32:51,119 --> 00:32:52,839
So I'm like, don't do it. And then he got wind and

494
00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:57,759
was pissed at me. He has
hated me ever since. He actually tweeted

495
00:32:57,839 --> 00:33:02,880
to somebody that I was a terrible
higher on Twitter publicly, terrible high boss.

496
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:07,400
You can't like you got hired at
n Yeah, I was working there.

497
00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:10,359
I was interning for you guys,
but I was producing that traffic.

498
00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:15,119
I was doing the traffic. I
was also doing the um that real estate

499
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:20,200
show with Steve Oh yeah yeah,
yeah, yeah yeah to show. And

500
00:33:20,319 --> 00:33:27,960
then okay, but he said you
were a terrible hire because he wanted to

501
00:33:28,039 --> 00:33:30,359
do this saucy video and he wanted
somebody with some cleavage and stuff, and

502
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:34,279
so he had you. And all
you said to me was I'm uncomfortable like

503
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:37,039
man in the world we lived in
then let alone? Now, I mean,

504
00:33:38,799 --> 00:33:42,880
and man, what a dick.
I helped that guy get the job,

505
00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:45,680
but I called I fucking freaked him
out. One day, I get

506
00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:49,039
a call from somebody who says,
can you describe? And I don't want

507
00:33:49,039 --> 00:33:51,400
to say his name, even though
I can on the podcast, it doesn't

508
00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:53,200
matter. Can you describe this guy
in three words? And I thought,

509
00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:57,000
I in my head, I go, oh my god, I have nothing

510
00:33:57,079 --> 00:34:00,440
good to say. And then I
thought, well, is that fair?

511
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:04,440
Because there were a lot of people
that did like him. I like them,

512
00:34:04,599 --> 00:34:08,320
Yes, them. So I remember
I was driving See here's things I

513
00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:13,559
can't remember. I was driving down
East Avenue, uh, going past Nazareth

514
00:34:13,639 --> 00:34:16,559
and then the Pittsford Pub and all. And I called back and I said,

515
00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:22,400
um, the three words I would
say is determined to win, determined

516
00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:25,719
to win and so the guy.
So then after that I hear basically he

517
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:30,400
got the job. So I call
him up and he's like, who's this?

518
00:34:31,159 --> 00:34:35,119
Like, you know, because it
comes up nowadays on your own caller

519
00:34:35,199 --> 00:34:37,079
ide even if the person's on in. Your father was like, god,

520
00:34:37,159 --> 00:34:39,159
damn you, you won't change.
He won't change. You're pussy then,

521
00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:43,599
you're pussy now? And uh he
was. I mean, come on,

522
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:46,800
man, he was a nerd.
You know. He was probably a kid

523
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:50,280
who got bullied Alart. Yeah,
because he's very like. He just had

524
00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:53,079
no he had no spine. And
that's why tired. I swear to God,

525
00:34:53,239 --> 00:35:00,920
I will thank you Danny. So
us there was a there was a

526
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:04,280
listener who won a contest, not
through us, through PEPSI to host the

527
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:06,920
Field the Dreams game in Rochester,
New York. Field of Dreams was a

528
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:10,440
promotion put on my Major League Baseball. I don't know about Reggie, but

529
00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:14,960
Wade Boggs was there, Frank Thomas, Pedro Martinez, all these all stars.

530
00:35:15,039 --> 00:35:16,800
Right. So they had an American
League team in a National League team,

531
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:20,000
and this kid was a Yankee fan. So he and his brother got

532
00:35:20,039 --> 00:35:22,199
to play in the American League team. So your old co host, John

533
00:35:22,199 --> 00:35:25,880
de Tulio was commandeered to manage the
American League team. They said, Danny,

534
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:29,440
will you manage the National League team. We'll give you a uniform and

535
00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:31,800
everything. I said, sure,
absolutely. When was this? Uh this

536
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:37,079
was you were there? That was
twenty eleven, twenty twelve, right,

537
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:40,559
it was I remember remember this.
I don't remember you managing the Well I'm

538
00:35:40,599 --> 00:35:45,719
getting there. That's where the story
he takes a dramatic turt Okay, so

539
00:35:46,079 --> 00:35:50,880
I get called into his house.
Hey, listen, um. The Rochester

540
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:53,280
Red Wings said that they would rather
have Raff managed Raff from p x Y

541
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:57,480
at the time manage the team,
even though I was the sports guy on

542
00:35:57,599 --> 00:36:00,760
the sports station and the exact produce
of our show, and I did sports

543
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:07,800
and had that guy Dan in every
weekend to talk about So I said,

544
00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:10,199
okay, no problem. Well,
what this guy didn't realize when he got

545
00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:14,360
the town was that I had had
a relationship with Dan Mason going back at

546
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:16,320
that point ten years. Yeah.
So I go to Dan. I go,

547
00:36:16,679 --> 00:36:19,800
I don't believe this story is true, but just let me run it

548
00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:21,960
by it. He goes, No, we had nothing to do with it.

549
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:23,800
We're just hosting the damn thing.
We don't call the shots. It

550
00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:29,440
was somebody in promotion who decided it
wasn't it was they needed they needed.

551
00:36:29,559 --> 00:36:32,079
No, I don't even think it
was him, it was it was Yeah.

552
00:36:32,159 --> 00:36:36,800
I think it was somebody up above
who said we need to get somebody

553
00:36:37,039 --> 00:36:42,440
who needs a little push here,
so let's get our top forty station.

554
00:36:42,599 --> 00:36:46,760
I don't understand. Was that the
Michael Scott of the station blond? Yes?

555
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:51,440
And yes, okay, but but
I would I don't know if it

556
00:36:51,559 --> 00:36:53,639
was her. I think that in
some way somebody came and said, hey,

557
00:36:53,679 --> 00:36:57,719
we need to get somebody out there. Who's this? So he's in

558
00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:00,519
the dugout with Johnny Badge and all
these guys. I don't know if this

559
00:37:00,599 --> 00:37:02,000
guy is a base Yeah, he
is a baseball fan and he is a

560
00:37:02,039 --> 00:37:05,559
bit of a sports guy. But
he was on a top forty station.

561
00:37:06,039 --> 00:37:08,360
Why wouldn't you have your rock station
that has the Red Wings in to have

562
00:37:08,559 --> 00:37:13,519
the guy talk about it? Where
people care about baseball a sport that is

563
00:37:13,639 --> 00:37:15,599
aging or was aging? I think
they're getting a little younger now, but

564
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:21,320
I never I'll never ever get it. I'll never get it. I think

565
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:24,079
that wasn't his call. I can't
even but I can't even talk about some

566
00:37:24,159 --> 00:37:28,000
of that stuff anymore because I go, what's the point point? I'll get

567
00:37:28,039 --> 00:37:30,360
myself worked up over how stupid it
is and it's not going to change.

568
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:34,000
And it still is. And I
have friends that work in it, and

569
00:37:34,119 --> 00:37:38,719
some of them are really dumb people, and that they are on Twitter yesterday

570
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:42,079
for sakes. No, no,
no, that they are. They're just

571
00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:44,960
dumb people. They know they may
not realize it, but they're dumb and

572
00:37:45,039 --> 00:37:47,960
they make dumb decisions and they do
it continuously. And it's what do I

573
00:37:49,079 --> 00:37:52,559
care. There's no no bearing on
me whatsoever. The story, Alex.

574
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:55,639
I could share another Yeah, hold
on, just hold that, just just

575
00:37:57,239 --> 00:38:02,679
chamber that one left, uh and
went and did TV. Yeah, so

576
00:38:04,039 --> 00:38:07,400
lots of TV. What was the
first TV show you you worked on?

577
00:38:07,559 --> 00:38:09,079
The very first one was First forty
eight, which is what I left to

578
00:38:09,119 --> 00:38:13,079
the break room to go do because
they had come to Rochester because he had

579
00:38:13,079 --> 00:38:16,960
had a season. Yeah, a
whole bunch of murders and professionals to Rochester.

580
00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:23,199
It was complete, Like I mean, I was like, I had

581
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:27,320
done American Pickers before that, but
I was a PA and I had only

582
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:30,079
done like a couple like one weekend
of a shoot. There was like a

583
00:38:30,119 --> 00:38:31,440
spinoff show and it was really fun
and I was like, oh, this

584
00:38:31,639 --> 00:38:35,519
dude, And then I got on
this and it was really real. It

585
00:38:35,639 --> 00:38:38,719
was like your your field kit was
like a bulletproof vest. Oh yeah,

586
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:42,559
and I had a cell phone called
a murder phone because the only time it

587
00:38:42,679 --> 00:38:45,599
rings is when there's a murder.
It's like a bad phone. It's like

588
00:38:45,639 --> 00:38:47,880
a legitimate bad phone because you're on
call all the time. So I remember,

589
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:50,800
like a couple of times I was
out with friends or whatever in the

590
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:53,880
murder phone ring and I'd have to
go like to the murder um and be

591
00:38:54,119 --> 00:38:58,079
on site. And my job as
the producer was to talk to the next

592
00:38:58,159 --> 00:39:02,440
of kin and family and friends and
to get them to come on camera and

593
00:39:02,559 --> 00:39:07,719
talk about the victim or whatever.
So imagine that, like that sounds like

594
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:10,960
the worst day of your life.
I'm coming up to you and hi do

595
00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:15,199
and you know what they are.
So they gave me a box of swag

596
00:39:16,079 --> 00:39:21,119
like T shirts and teachings I'm not
shitting you, to give to people.

597
00:39:21,159 --> 00:39:25,000
As it was, it was so
tough. I had a lot of people

598
00:39:25,079 --> 00:39:29,000
just completely break down, and I
was like in a really bad place to

599
00:39:29,079 --> 00:39:32,280
myself. So I who was not
handling that well. So when they they

600
00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:36,480
only got like one and a half
solves is what they call it, Like

601
00:39:36,559 --> 00:39:38,679
they were only able to solve one
and a half cases of the like thirty

602
00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:43,119
six homicides or something. They shot
they ended up pulling out of the city

603
00:39:43,159 --> 00:39:47,280
early, so I love which was
such a blessing in disguise. So that

604
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:52,239
was here was here in Rochester,
and then um, right after that,

605
00:39:52,559 --> 00:39:55,360
I got a job on So wait, you said, hang on a second.

606
00:39:55,559 --> 00:40:00,840
That that experience made you go hey, but you like the first one

607
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:02,719
and you liked the TV and you
knew that and you got to see what

608
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:05,920
you didn't want, Yeah, and
so you could get more of what you

609
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:07,440
do want, which was the television
side of it. And I had the

610
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:12,440
production you know, the sort of
the soup to nuts skills of a producer

611
00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:15,280
are sort of the same no matter
what show you're on, everything sort of

612
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:17,760
falls into the same. So I
was trying to get those skills, but

613
00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:22,679
I definitely didn't want to do it
like I'll do true crime, but I

614
00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:25,840
want to do one of those recreations
where we recreate the murder. Yeah right,

615
00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:31,280
you have the bad actors trying to
make it big. Yeah, you

616
00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:34,960
don't really see the crime. You
just see the hand go up right,

617
00:40:35,079 --> 00:40:37,960
and then you see or the gun
and then you see the firing of the

618
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:40,920
gun, but you don't see what
happened afterwards. And watch your mouth.

619
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:45,119
I have a gun. Oh really, damn it. Practice this one for

620
00:40:45,159 --> 00:40:47,159
a while. My wife watches all
these shows. Oh, I guess,

621
00:40:47,639 --> 00:40:51,000
yeah, those are tough. But
yeah. Then I went out and did

622
00:40:51,079 --> 00:40:54,800
like a Flea Market Flip was the
next show. Yeah, what is Flea

623
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:58,800
Market Flip? How I've never seen
that? Oh, Flea Market Flip is

624
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:01,320
a great show. Used to be
on HGTV like way back in the day.

625
00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:06,079
But basically, they get teams of
people who can rehab furniture, so

626
00:41:06,159 --> 00:41:08,599
they go around to flea markets and
they buy They get money because it's a

627
00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:13,400
competition show, and they buy pieces
of furniture and then they bring them back

628
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:15,920
to the workshop and they redo them, and then they take them to a

629
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:20,039
flea market and resell them and see
if they can get more than they paid.

630
00:41:20,559 --> 00:41:22,440
At the end of it, whoever
sold their things for the most money

631
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:25,199
wins and they win a big prize
and whatever. Race and Randy watching with

632
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:32,960
Tracy. Tracy bought this beautiful couch, Buddy, totally refurbish what Rebers scare

633
00:41:34,039 --> 00:41:43,280
crabs. I think the couture.
Wow. So people, it was all

634
00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:45,639
about furniture and who could sell it. So Flea Market Flip Yeah, interesting,

635
00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:47,800
Yeah, it was really fun.
Did you work on any of the

636
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:52,119
car shows I did. I sat
down and watched fast and loud, and

637
00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:55,920
I got sewing too fast and loud? Like, did she start racing after

638
00:41:57,039 --> 00:42:00,400
that? No? I no,
I'm sorry. No, that fast and

639
00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:04,519
loud is recent. Oh, greson, that's more of an American. No,

640
00:42:04,679 --> 00:42:07,440
that was more just other people I
knew. And because I know you

641
00:42:07,519 --> 00:42:10,639
got into racing for I did for
a little bit. It's dude, it's

642
00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:17,159
I was. I was looking at
buying a car about a year, two

643
00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:21,039
years ago, two years ago,
two summers, guy and I decided not

644
00:42:21,159 --> 00:42:24,000
to oh yeah, okay, about
twenty grand to get a car out of

645
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:27,800
California that would be all built for
racing, and then you probably have to

646
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:30,199
put another I want to go down
to car Me and get a Dodge Challenger.

647
00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:31,719
It's like, I don't need a
Corvette. I don't need anything.

648
00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:36,239
I just give you a Dodge che
orange yellow, whatever, some hot color,

649
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:38,039
black white, and I just want
to take that pick out for like

650
00:42:38,119 --> 00:42:40,880
this two weeks a year okay.
So I was looking at this just to

651
00:42:42,559 --> 00:42:45,280
drive on tracks and stuff, and
I didn't really care too much as to

652
00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:50,519
the maker model. So much is
more of the experience of doing it right,

653
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:54,960
because I had done it a few
times in different areas. But if

654
00:42:55,039 --> 00:42:59,320
I had my choice, it's an
import and I would really love to get

655
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:02,679
an Audi R eight that that would
if they're built for the street man,

656
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:06,039
you could take those to a track. I mean, I swear to god,

657
00:43:06,039 --> 00:43:07,800
I would love to take one just
on the street road and show me

658
00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:10,679
a curve where they tell you it's
twenty miles per hour around the curve,

659
00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:14,800
and I guarantee you, if you
can drive, watch this, that car

660
00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:21,079
you could take that curve at sixty. And I really Michael, Oh yeah,

661
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:23,199
yeah, I don't. I know, I've never I don't think that

662
00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:27,039
I've never been in one cars.
And I would love to have an air

663
00:43:27,119 --> 00:43:30,320
cool Porsche just because I think those
are some of the coolest cars. Well

664
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:31,639
yeah, last Steve Circule, let's
take you for a right, Well,

665
00:43:31,679 --> 00:43:36,400
no, he's I think he has
water cool line. It's fine. That's

666
00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:38,159
a little a little different. So
all these shows, so, out of

667
00:43:38,199 --> 00:43:42,960
all the shows you've done, what
one was your favorite? I have to

668
00:43:43,039 --> 00:43:45,599
say, like I've had a couple
of favorites. Like one of my favorites

669
00:43:45,679 --> 00:43:47,480
never saw the light of day.
It was like a show for fusion.

670
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:52,280
It was a car show and it
was like car culture, but not for

671
00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:55,119
your old man. It was kids, car culture for kids. We went

672
00:43:55,159 --> 00:43:59,880
all around the country with these kids
who write for Gizmoto. Oh yeah,

673
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:02,480
you know Gizmoto. They do like
Jezebel and the Onion and stuff. They

674
00:44:02,559 --> 00:44:06,320
have a site called Jelopnik where they
write all about cars. As two of

675
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:07,880
the writers were host of the show, and they went around to all these

676
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:13,960
like really unique car communities. And
there's this car show called H two OI

677
00:44:14,159 --> 00:44:16,960
in Ocean City, Maryland, and
it's basically like all these hondas and they

678
00:44:17,079 --> 00:44:22,239
stance the wheels and they raise them
up and down the strip and the whole

679
00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:24,519
point is to see how many tickets
you can get, how many times I

680
00:44:24,639 --> 00:44:29,480
can get your car towed and impounded. And the kids go, they get

681
00:44:29,519 --> 00:44:30,880
their cars out, they pay,
and they get right back on the street

682
00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:35,239
and just rip the strip up all
night long. And then there's people,

683
00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:39,239
crowds of people standing on the street
going sund it. And these cars aren't

684
00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:44,079
just ripping up Ocean City, Maryland. It's yeah, and we got to

685
00:44:44,159 --> 00:44:46,360
see like this guy and so what
was the name of the show. It

686
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:51,320
was called car versus America. Car
Versus America. We did like a monster

687
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:54,559
truck. This guy does monster truck
racing in the county fair circuit, so

688
00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:59,639
like a smaller monster truck, but
the thing rips. It was really it

689
00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:02,440
was a really cool This guy in
Ohio has like this really unique series of

690
00:45:02,519 --> 00:45:07,280
hondas that you can only get in
Japan, and he's got a three warehouses

691
00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:13,119
full of them. It was unbelievable
to see the collection. Like we we

692
00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:15,119
went to the coolest places and got
to see the coolest things. And then

693
00:45:15,199 --> 00:45:19,760
the show. The show was on
Fusion, so unless you have Fusion and

694
00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:22,280
your cable provider, no we ever
saw it, right. But my second

695
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:25,199
favorite show was Project Runway. I
did three seasons. Oh no kidding,

696
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:29,599
yeah, wow, Project Runway.
That was actually a cool show. Yeah,

697
00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:32,920
I did the new iteration trying to
remember. Tim Gunn was on the

698
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:37,920
show. Heidi Klum was on the
show. So you did that show that

699
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:42,559
was Network or was that that was
Discovery? Was Lifetime? It started on

700
00:45:42,639 --> 00:45:45,119
Bravo, then I went to Lifetime. I did when it came back to

701
00:45:45,199 --> 00:45:47,679
Bravo. Okay, so they Tim
Gunn and Heidi Klum left to go do

702
00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:52,480
a basically the same show on Amazon
called like Making the Cut. I think

703
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:57,000
it's called okay Um and I came
on. We had basically the same judges

704
00:45:57,039 --> 00:46:00,480
with Nina Garcia, Brandon, Maxwell
Um, Elaine welter Off, and then

705
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:06,199
for the first season we had Carly
Class the model. She was like the

706
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:09,920
Heidi Klum, and then the mentor, Tim Gunn was Christian Siriano because he

707
00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:14,480
won he won one of the Project
Runways and he had his own line.

708
00:46:14,519 --> 00:46:15,800
He was the only guy to make
it out. Everybody else kind of fizzled.

709
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:19,960
Yeah, and then even he went
bankrupt. I think after no,

710
00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:23,199
he's he's doing just he's doing well, Okay, never mind mistake, he's

711
00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:27,639
uh, he actually got once he
won the show, he kind of blew

712
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:31,840
up because he designed the inauguration dress
for Michelle Obama. Really yeah, and

713
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:35,800
then everybody was like, oh my
god, Christians. Yeah, so he's

714
00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:39,480
he's and and probably will tell you
like the whole reason they want that show

715
00:46:39,599 --> 00:46:44,360
is because they're trying to find the
next Christian Siriano. It just hasn't happened.

716
00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:46,960
Ye, how many someone has hit
They're on their twentieth yeah, this

717
00:46:47,159 --> 00:46:51,440
was like season four that he hit
it. Yeah, so what did you

718
00:46:51,519 --> 00:46:53,800
do on that show? I was
a field producer, So basically my job

719
00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:59,480
is to follow the talent around and
basically track everything that they do, and

720
00:47:00,079 --> 00:47:02,760
then I take them into the interview
room and I ask them all kinds of

721
00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:06,199
questions. So when you see them
cut to the confessional and they're like,

722
00:47:06,199 --> 00:47:08,480
I really wanted to make that dress, like they're talking to me. Okay,

723
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:12,639
wow, all right, that's kind
of cool. Yeah, it's really

724
00:47:12,679 --> 00:47:15,920
cool. You pull them on a
confessional during like their deadline. I have

725
00:47:15,079 --> 00:47:19,519
forty five minutes to get this dress
ready, and I am stressing that's one

726
00:47:19,559 --> 00:47:22,559
hundred percent true. They we rotate
them so everybody has to have the same

727
00:47:22,599 --> 00:47:25,320
amount of time to work, so
it's fair. So we rotate them out

728
00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:29,800
in like forty five minute increments.
We take them to these little trailers outside

729
00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:32,239
and we do a quick like interstitial
we call it, and it's basically like,

730
00:47:32,679 --> 00:47:36,039
what are you doing, why are
you doing that? What happened?

731
00:47:36,199 --> 00:47:37,960
What did you rip your zipper?
And it's so funny because we can hear

732
00:47:38,079 --> 00:47:42,079
everything and see everything, so they
can't get away with anything. Yeah,

733
00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:44,800
if they mess up and we asked
them in the interview and they're like,

734
00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:47,679
oh, I heard you say,
like, oh fuck, I ripped that.

735
00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:52,119
Tell me what you did. That's
very funny. Can't get them and

736
00:47:52,639 --> 00:47:55,360
make them like make dresses out of
paper plates and stuff like that, and

737
00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:59,800
they have to like creativity, they
have to make it work off. Yeah,

738
00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:02,199
it's almost genius level, isn't it. It is that they really are

739
00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:07,559
making these designs in a vacuum.
We give them a certain amount of time

740
00:48:07,679 --> 00:48:09,800
to draw it to go buy your
materials. When you see them and the

741
00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:14,800
show are running around that store,
they are actually running and we are running

742
00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:17,719
all around trying to hide from the
canter around. Wow. Yeah, it's

743
00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:21,679
one of the more real shows.
When you see them breakdown, they are

744
00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:25,760
really having breakdown. Man. So
what's going on now with television because you

745
00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:30,280
have the writer's strike? Yeah,
and mostly we would think that would affect

746
00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:32,880
maybe shows like That's a Night Show
or Kim All and that kind of thing,

747
00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:37,199
but in any sitcoms, anything that's
scripted. Yeah, reality TV as

748
00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:42,239
well, TV is really a mess
right now. Vulture just had a great

749
00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:45,239
article if you're interested about It's called
the Binge and Purge and it's basically like

750
00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:52,679
sort of Netflix ruined everything. Yeah, the streaming model really, it took

751
00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:57,199
off like wildfire, and nobody knew
how to catch up with it. And

752
00:48:57,559 --> 00:49:00,920
the business models different from podcast television. You don't have the ad revenue.

753
00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:06,360
You're relying on subscribers. And last
year, two years ago, when Netflix

754
00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:10,400
had their first loss, the entire
entertainment industry went nuts. I mean they

755
00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:16,159
started letting people go before right after
COVID when we all came back because we

756
00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:19,880
all got decimated from COVID. You
couldn't be on set, you know,

757
00:49:20,079 --> 00:49:22,800
can't be doing that. But when
we came back, it was like every

758
00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:25,880
project you were interested in could get
green lit. You want to make a

759
00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:29,440
show about roller skating cats, you
got it. You want to make a

760
00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:31,760
show about your wacky family, you
got it. You get a show,

761
00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:35,440
You get a show. It was
like Oprah Winfrey. Yeah, and now

762
00:49:36,119 --> 00:49:38,639
all of those people have been fired
who were given everybody to shows, right,

763
00:49:39,199 --> 00:49:42,199
Well, you know you're starting to
see inspiration. You know what you're

764
00:49:42,199 --> 00:49:46,320
starting to see now too is I
really thought that it was like the new

765
00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:51,880
Golden age of television when these streaming
services came, because you got a lot

766
00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:54,840
of quality shows that weren't getting green
lit by networks, weren't being able to

767
00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:59,440
cut through. And I don't know
that nepotism place, but you know,

768
00:49:59,519 --> 00:50:00,639
you get things like Two and a
half Men and you can't tell me that

769
00:50:00,719 --> 00:50:05,800
it's better than I don't know,
right, like like Succession or something that's

770
00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:09,599
the HBO Max right or something that
Netflix had, even the Gracie and Frankie

771
00:50:09,599 --> 00:50:14,000
and Gracie or whatever that was.
But you started to see these shows get

772
00:50:14,039 --> 00:50:15,800
green light and I thought, boy, you're gonna you're gonna start to see

773
00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:22,119
more and more. The Marvelous Missus
Maisel really really great show, I mean,

774
00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:24,199
really well done. And I don't
binge watch a lot of things,

775
00:50:24,239 --> 00:50:27,639
but I made sure I really like
that, and of course it appealed to

776
00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:30,800
me with the comedy and the old
era and you know, uh and who

777
00:50:30,840 --> 00:50:34,679
they talked about. But what I
think you're gonna start to see is when

778
00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:37,519
things aren't of quality, there's a
lot of shit on there. There's a

779
00:50:37,599 --> 00:50:39,199
lot of crap. And that's the
problem. That's what they're seeing. They're

780
00:50:39,239 --> 00:50:43,719
seeing that that they've greenlit all these
wonderful shows and put all these people to

781
00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:46,199
work, right, But people are
going to Netflix and they're watching Gilmore Girls.

782
00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:54,400
My wife loves that show. No
watch. And then but then there's

783
00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:58,920
there's there's there's a bunch of schlock
shows like the Jamie Fox sitcom that I

784
00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:02,159
watched a couple episode, not very
good. I watched the Arnold documentary.

785
00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:06,320
I loved it. It's a three
parts docuseries. I watched it maybe two

786
00:51:06,440 --> 00:51:10,000
two and a half times Netflix.
And then he's got a show called foo

787
00:51:10,119 --> 00:51:13,480
Bar. I watched a couple of
episodes of that. But again, to

788
00:51:13,559 --> 00:51:15,639
me, it's like so quick and
just shitty writing, and you know it's

789
00:51:15,719 --> 00:51:22,360
there. What you're gonna start seeing
is what's happening to Megan Markle where they

790
00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:25,039
were told that they have you know, we're paying you ten million dollars and

791
00:51:25,159 --> 00:51:29,719
if you guys, they're already kicked
off Spotify because they're not interesting. The

792
00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:31,599
story's over. No one gives a
shit anymore. You're not royal family,

793
00:51:31,679 --> 00:51:36,480
so who cares. You're not doing
anything really here, You've got your millions

794
00:51:36,519 --> 00:51:40,559
of dollars. It becomes one of
these things where you got a hustle and

795
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:45,039
they never had to she did,
He didn't. He didn't really have to

796
00:51:45,119 --> 00:51:49,760
hustle, and I think, now
you've got your your stories out. You

797
00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:52,679
were these here, you escape from
what a lot of people were seeing as

798
00:51:52,719 --> 00:51:54,840
a as a prison. Maybe it
was, maybe it wasn't, and no

799
00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:59,480
one cares anymore. And now the
whole thing on Netflix, I mean,

800
00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:04,119
they are they're being told if they
don't step up whatever documentary series, they're

801
00:52:04,119 --> 00:52:05,920
taken back them. I think,
what did they get a one hundred million

802
00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:08,800
dollars deal, yesh, which is
nuts and it's insane. Didn't get nearly

803
00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:14,840
the I mean, this is this
is what the dot com bubble in a

804
00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:20,000
way, it's sort of a retreat
of that. You watched, Uh what

805
00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:24,599
Chappelle get what seventy or one hundred
million dollars? And I don't know that

806
00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:30,880
he didn't deliver because every special game, I don't know in terms of their

807
00:52:30,199 --> 00:52:35,360
stuff, whether or not it repaid. Uh Chris Rock, I think at

808
00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:37,840
a seventy million dollars deal from Netflix, is he worth it? I don't

809
00:52:37,920 --> 00:52:43,039
know. But the live thing was
interesting, yeah, and it certainly was

810
00:52:43,159 --> 00:52:45,119
a touch point for them, and
I think you're going to see them start

811
00:52:45,159 --> 00:52:47,840
to go do that. I'll give
an example of a guy who got a

812
00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:52,159
ton of money from Netflix, and
his movies all suck, Adam Sandler,

813
00:52:52,360 --> 00:52:53,559
Yeah, but they don't all suck. You don't think so. No,

814
00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:59,079
I haven't laughed once. No,
No, like I love, I have

815
00:52:59,159 --> 00:53:00,920
the Happy Gilmore that now I'm not
talking about. I'm not talking about his

816
00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:04,559
like stuff that made him famous.
I'm talking about this new stuff like Sandy

817
00:53:04,599 --> 00:53:07,400
Waxler and all this other stuff.
I don't know. Well, that's the

818
00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:10,920
thing though, though he's making a
movie like The Ridiculous Six just for Netflix.

819
00:53:12,119 --> 00:53:14,480
Yeah, and they just came out. Yeah, well I think he

820
00:53:14,639 --> 00:53:17,880
did. He do the one with
Drew Barrymore where it's like the Yeah Families.

821
00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:21,760
Was that just for Netflix? Yes? And that wasn't bad where they

822
00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:24,800
go on vacation together. That was
actually pretty good. I did think some

823
00:53:24,960 --> 00:53:28,719
of his other stuff, I hear
you, Uh, what was the one

824
00:53:28,760 --> 00:53:31,440
where he was the scout for basketball
and he winds up going over to Europe

825
00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:35,679
and he finds a guy. I
really enjoyed that, the one where he's

826
00:53:35,800 --> 00:53:37,519
acting, But I don't know that
he produced. I don't think he produced.

827
00:53:37,559 --> 00:53:40,400
I think he was acting one with
Yeah. I never saw that.

828
00:53:40,480 --> 00:53:44,000
I heard. That's fantastic. It's
it's good. I wouldn't wasn't. I

829
00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:45,679
wouldn't say fantastic, but it wasn't
him though, it wasn't him, Like

830
00:53:45,840 --> 00:53:50,360
this wasn't part of Appy Madison Productions. No, but the Happy Manage.

831
00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:52,800
I mean some of it's some of
it's good, some of it's. I

832
00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:57,599
hear that the murder mystery he does
with Jennifer Aniston. I heard it was

833
00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:01,400
enjoyable but slocky and ship and yet
they did a second one because I think

834
00:54:01,480 --> 00:54:05,159
sometimes that's what people just want to
eat, you know what I mean,

835
00:54:05,239 --> 00:54:07,159
And that's what they want to digest. So he has comedy. Oh sorry,

836
00:54:07,159 --> 00:54:10,159
go ahead. You know how Spencer
Pacing or left for Miami to do

837
00:54:10,360 --> 00:54:15,239
the All American Show. It's like, it's, oh, yeah, what

838
00:54:15,400 --> 00:54:19,119
if like Tay Diggs did the same
thing, and you know, because he

839
00:54:19,679 --> 00:54:22,639
and All American. I don't want
to spoil anything, but he died.

840
00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:24,880
Yeah, so dude, well they
pat it. They had it in the

841
00:54:24,960 --> 00:54:30,280
news here, they had it.
And what if he does a sort of

842
00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:34,440
same thing but for him growing up
in Rochester and he does a little show.

843
00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:37,400
It would be interesting. Netflix was
good when shows like On My Block

844
00:54:37,480 --> 00:54:42,800
and All American were releasing episodes back
to back to back to back. That's

845
00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:45,320
when it was really good. Then
there's nothing new. It's just all dried.

846
00:54:45,400 --> 00:54:47,639
It's just stale because you can binge
it now. Well, the problem

847
00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:51,840
is that it's across all platforms this
kind of stuff. Right, You've got

848
00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:55,440
this show on Apple TV called Platonic, and it's about two people that were

849
00:54:55,559 --> 00:54:59,519
guying, a man and woman who
were friends in college, and now they've

850
00:54:59,559 --> 00:55:02,639
reconnect that after he divorces his wife, who the girl did not like.

851
00:55:02,960 --> 00:55:07,119
She's married. They it was always
Platonic and they get back together and it's

852
00:55:07,159 --> 00:55:10,199
just kind of like it's but it's
all right, it's gonna get back to

853
00:55:10,239 --> 00:55:15,159
being good. Ones like shows like
Stranger Things. There are new seasons out

854
00:55:15,280 --> 00:55:17,920
and more things. There's a there's
a spinoff of on My I don't know

855
00:55:17,960 --> 00:55:22,559
if you've ever watched All My Block
I have, there's a new spinoff called

856
00:55:22,639 --> 00:55:25,119
Free Ridge. I think that's what
it's called. But now that's just so

857
00:55:25,320 --> 00:55:29,360
it was all boys and one girl. Now it's all girls and one boy.

858
00:55:29,719 --> 00:55:31,679
And so they're picking up little things
from On My Block and adding it

859
00:55:31,760 --> 00:55:36,840
to their like some characters and stuff, and it's making it kind of good,

860
00:55:36,880 --> 00:55:38,960
but a lot of people realize that
it's really not what they made.

861
00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:42,639
It seem like it was going to
be. Well, there's the last shows

862
00:55:42,679 --> 00:55:45,400
though, that like they start out
great, you have to give at least

863
00:55:45,440 --> 00:55:49,599
three seasons. We talked to the
guy who wrote Banshee's from Rochet. Yeah

864
00:55:49,679 --> 00:55:52,960
he lived under John Parnella's roof.
I forgot the name his name, and

865
00:55:52,119 --> 00:55:54,000
he said, you have when you
present a show, you have to have

866
00:55:54,039 --> 00:55:58,039
at least three seasons of material.
You have to show where the characters are

867
00:55:58,079 --> 00:56:00,920
going. And a lot of times
if there's a hit at those three seasons

868
00:56:00,960 --> 00:56:01,920
and that it's like, okay,
where do we go from here? Look

869
00:56:01,960 --> 00:56:06,679
what happened lost? The guy couldn't
figure out how to end the show right,

870
00:56:06,800 --> 00:56:09,880
And then there's like yeah, but
then there was then there was like

871
00:56:09,960 --> 00:56:14,519
House of Cards was one of the
best shows ever until Bow willem On,

872
00:56:14,599 --> 00:56:16,599
the show runner left. When he
left, the show immediately became a dis

873
00:56:16,880 --> 00:56:20,480
I mean, I enjoyed Ozark and
I thought they had a good thing,

874
00:56:20,559 --> 00:56:23,239
but you know, I watched the
Mary Tyler More documentary. I love documentaries,

875
00:56:23,239 --> 00:56:27,599
and I hadn't done landscaping at our
house and growing up as a kid,

876
00:56:28,119 --> 00:56:31,880
and uh, that's the Dick Van
Dyke Show. They said five seasons.

877
00:56:32,239 --> 00:56:36,079
They came to the fifth season and
nobody really wanted it to end,

878
00:56:36,360 --> 00:56:38,400
and they went, no, we're
ending it. It was the writers.

879
00:56:38,400 --> 00:56:40,360
They're like, the networks going,
come on, keep going, this is

880
00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:45,199
great, right, and they're like, no, because you just can't write.

881
00:56:45,840 --> 00:56:47,360
And that was I mean we're talking
you know some of the big it

882
00:56:47,440 --> 00:56:50,760
was. It was Karl Reiner.
Yeah, and Karl Reiner goes, you

883
00:56:50,840 --> 00:56:53,280
can't write more than after five seasons. It's just you can't. And then

884
00:56:53,320 --> 00:56:57,039
there were certain shows like Cosby.
They were even like Cosby got the six

885
00:56:57,079 --> 00:56:59,199
seasons. This is what I'm saying, it just ran out of material.

886
00:56:59,280 --> 00:57:05,679
Happy Days phrase jumped the Shark was
because they over That's that's why Jerry Seinfeldt

887
00:57:05,679 --> 00:57:09,280
said, I'm done. Yeah.
Well like them High nine feel like these

888
00:57:09,400 --> 00:57:14,159
video games into shows, Like they
made Mario their own movie. I mean,

889
00:57:14,280 --> 00:57:16,880
yes, they make him Uncharted their
movie. It's really good. But

890
00:57:17,000 --> 00:57:22,800
what if they started making games like
GTA five into TV shows and series.

891
00:57:22,039 --> 00:57:24,280
Well, I mean the one that's
the closest and I love all of them

892
00:57:24,360 --> 00:57:27,360
is to Fast and the furious.
I mean, that's the closest thing to

893
00:57:27,400 --> 00:57:29,840
a game show on movie I've ever
seen. But I love it. I

894
00:57:30,079 --> 00:57:36,960
love those movies into literal series and
make it interesting, like five series.

895
00:57:37,039 --> 00:57:38,679
You just need no matter what it
is, it's got to be strong writing,

896
00:57:39,000 --> 00:57:42,400
I think, and that and that, and that's where it was,

897
00:57:42,679 --> 00:57:45,880
go ahead, Jameson. So they're
if they're not going to release the new

898
00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:47,400
game, why don't they just release
the series, which is not going to

899
00:57:47,440 --> 00:57:52,039
cost them as much money as it
seems like they're spending to make the game.

900
00:57:52,159 --> 00:57:53,840
To make the game, I mean, they made one billion dollars I

901
00:57:53,960 --> 00:57:58,760
think in the first GTA three weeks
of it being released in two thousand and

902
00:57:58,760 --> 00:58:04,559
thirteen, just to make a little
series. It doesn't even have to be

903
00:58:04,840 --> 00:58:08,079
more than a season. I think
it would be great. Oh No,

904
00:58:08,199 --> 00:58:10,679
Like I think a lot of this
came because the sopranos, Like well,

905
00:58:10,760 --> 00:58:16,079
Fox Network came out of nowhere because
Rupert Murdock became an americanized citizen and there

906
00:58:16,159 --> 00:58:21,800
was all this programming that nobody's gonna
put on ABCNBC or CBS. So because

907
00:58:21,800 --> 00:58:24,559
I'll take it, and it was
this whacky network where they'd only show shows

908
00:58:24,599 --> 00:58:29,159
from eight to ten, right,
and then even they started turning away shows.

909
00:58:29,199 --> 00:58:31,440
And one of the shows they turned
away was The Sopranos, and HBO

910
00:58:31,519 --> 00:58:34,920
said, will take it, and
David Chase is like, Okay, I

911
00:58:34,960 --> 00:58:37,920
can make this whatever I want,
right, there's no censorship. And that's

912
00:58:38,000 --> 00:58:43,760
and that show changed everything. So
now every show, whether it's Apple TV,

913
00:58:43,960 --> 00:58:47,079
Netflix, Hulu is trying to live
up to that and it's so hard.

914
00:58:47,159 --> 00:58:51,199
It just moved the needle. You
know. I'm not saying that everything's

915
00:58:51,199 --> 00:58:53,079
gonna be a drama like The Sopranos, but they're looking for that kind of

916
00:58:53,159 --> 00:58:58,440
writing. Yeah, the clever kind
of story. All right, well,

917
00:58:58,679 --> 00:59:01,559
let's let's take a moment when we
come back. Uh, we're gonna have

918
00:59:01,639 --> 00:59:05,480
Doug Phelps. I had asked Doug
he would want up not being able to

919
00:59:05,519 --> 00:59:08,320
come in tonight because he's gonna be
in the Funniest Person in Rochester contest again.

920
00:59:08,760 --> 00:59:14,199
He wants defend his title, offend
his title July fifth, and uh,

921
00:59:14,480 --> 00:59:16,440
I will be hosting that and then
jug will be up there July sixth.

922
00:59:17,559 --> 00:59:21,360
But Alex when I called her to
say, hey, if you're in

923
00:59:21,480 --> 00:59:24,119
town, come on because she's gonna
be we're gonna be doing another project in

924
00:59:24,280 --> 00:59:27,960
here, a show that she's done. And by the way, I've taken

925
00:59:28,039 --> 00:59:30,800
your pitch. And my son came
to me, one of my boys,

926
00:59:30,800 --> 00:59:31,679
and said, I want to do
a podcast. And I go, okay,

927
00:59:31,920 --> 00:59:37,400
I want something like this before I
before I green light anything I did,

928
00:59:37,480 --> 00:59:38,880
because I said, I can't have
you coming in here and just shitting

929
00:59:38,960 --> 00:59:44,079
up a microphone and expect me to
put it out with my name at anyway

930
00:59:44,159 --> 00:59:51,519
to wait, wait, why ahead
say it? I don't everything all right?

931
00:59:51,519 --> 00:59:52,119
All right, all right, all
right, all right, well wait,

932
00:59:52,280 --> 00:59:53,960
let's come. Let's about this on
the other side. Hold on,

933
00:59:54,039 --> 00:59:58,079
no, no, no, let's
tea. Tell us why well, tell

934
00:59:58,119 --> 01:00:00,679
me, yeah, tell us why
you think your brother we shouldn't do a

935
01:00:00,719 --> 01:00:06,559
podcast. And then but Alex,
remember what happened at wind Jammers. Alex,

936
01:00:07,079 --> 01:00:09,000
oh yeah, oh yeah. We'll
get to that land a legends raceway

937
01:00:09,039 --> 01:00:14,360
in Canadagas where you're gonna feel the
power and excitement of local heroes taken on

938
01:00:14,480 --> 01:00:17,960
that legendary dirt track. This Saturday
night is going to be no racing,

939
01:00:19,440 --> 01:00:22,920
but Monday night, July third,
will be racing. Traditionally they race on

940
01:00:22,000 --> 01:00:25,480
Saturday, but This is going to
be the Big Super Dirt Car Series Stars

941
01:00:25,519 --> 01:00:30,679
and Stripes seventy with the CRSA Sprint
Cars race, and Randy's gonna be down

942
01:00:30,719 --> 01:00:35,239
there. Can't wait. Oh ma, Anything that you do on July third

943
01:00:35,320 --> 01:00:37,920
is always a good idea. It
is, isn't it. That's America.

944
01:00:37,000 --> 01:00:42,960
I love it. That's Americana and
this is Yeah, of course I talked

945
01:00:42,960 --> 01:00:46,239
to him today. Yeah, I'm
still ducking them from time to time.

946
01:00:46,480 --> 01:00:51,440
Bring the family and experience. Are
the brand new grandstands and infield JumboTron.

947
01:00:51,679 --> 01:00:53,039
You won't miss any of the action
if you want to bring your kids there.

948
01:00:53,079 --> 01:00:57,280
They have a pre race interactive Little
Legends Kids Club. They can get

949
01:00:57,440 --> 01:00:59,800
make crafts and get up close to
the drivers in their cars, which I

950
01:01:00,159 --> 01:01:01,400
think it's kind of cool because it's
mind expanding, right. They could go,

951
01:01:01,440 --> 01:01:05,239
oh, I can do this.
Hunger strikes. They got all kinds

952
01:01:05,280 --> 01:01:08,159
of concessions and novelty stands in food
trucks and you can find their schedule at

953
01:01:08,239 --> 01:01:12,559
Land of Legends Raceway dot com.
But I will tell you again, no

954
01:01:12,760 --> 01:01:15,440
racing this Saturday, but Monday,
July third, the Big Super Dirt Car

955
01:01:15,519 --> 01:01:21,800
Series Stars and Stripes seventy with the
cr SSA Sprint Cars at Land of Legends

956
01:01:21,920 --> 01:01:24,639
Raceway twenty A, twenty County Row
ten. Let the adventure begin. It's

957
01:01:24,719 --> 01:01:32,480
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958
01:01:32,639 --> 01:01:37,239
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959
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960
01:01:40,599 --> 01:01:44,880
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961
01:01:45,079 --> 01:01:46,880
Yeah it is. And what I
like about it For us, it's local,

962
01:01:47,159 --> 01:01:50,519
but they're all over. You can
get it anywhere. You go to

963
01:01:50,559 --> 01:01:53,840
Ironsmoke Distillery dot com and you can
find out how you can get your hands

964
01:01:53,880 --> 01:01:59,199
on some Ironsmoke Distillery. They're selling
really big in other states, really big.

965
01:01:59,280 --> 01:02:02,199
I believe it. Yeah, Kentucky's
getting jealous Kentucky. Well, Forbes

966
01:02:02,280 --> 01:02:07,840
magazine said, one of the ten
best bourbons outside of Kentucky Iron Smoke Distillery,

967
01:02:07,880 --> 01:02:09,320
probably better than some of the bourbons
in Kentucky. Let's be honest,

968
01:02:09,360 --> 01:02:14,679
it's Kentucky. Okay. What Kentucky's
known for bourbon? What are they are?

969
01:02:14,840 --> 01:02:17,599
Okay? They are bourbon basketball and
horse racing to what you know,

970
01:02:17,719 --> 01:02:23,280
like music which you can also get
smoke. Uh. They have on Thursday

971
01:02:23,400 --> 01:02:29,679
night Smilo and the Ghost looking forward
to it, and then Eric Ferrari is

972
01:02:29,719 --> 01:02:35,280
playing the Friday Acoustic Sunset Sessions from
five to eight and then Friday Night on

973
01:02:35,480 --> 01:02:39,159
the main stage Flannel Underground from eight
thirty to eleven thirty ten dollars cover.

974
01:02:39,320 --> 01:02:43,679
I like to see it though,
Yeah, I'm assuming that it's gotta be

975
01:02:43,800 --> 01:02:49,039
nineties run stuff right, your son, Alison Chains, I could go for

976
01:02:49,159 --> 01:02:52,400
that. I love Sound Garden Sugar. Yeah. I was a big fan

977
01:02:52,440 --> 01:02:54,639
of Chris Corner. Chris Cornell.
Laneesdale and Chris Cornell are the two hardest

978
01:02:54,679 --> 01:02:59,159
guys from the nineties to try to
sing like yeah, very difficult. Well,

979
01:02:59,280 --> 01:03:01,760
iron smoked distilleries where you'll catch all
this. You can unlease your taste

980
01:03:01,800 --> 01:03:07,000
for greatness, whether it be music
or delicious iron smoke, distillery, whiskey,

981
01:03:07,199 --> 01:03:09,199
best purv and you're gonna have It's
in Fairport, New York. Baby,

982
01:03:12,760 --> 01:03:19,880
and he's Tronchester Mac of all trades. Can give you back your summertime,

983
01:03:20,280 --> 01:03:22,880
please, that's right, give you
back your summertime. Your wife got

984
01:03:22,960 --> 01:03:25,599
a project for you have back to
it. Yeah, please, Well it's

985
01:03:25,599 --> 01:03:29,000
all the little things you didn't do. Yeah, right, you don't have

986
01:03:29,119 --> 01:03:30,960
time to do I have time with
this, and then all of a sudden

987
01:03:30,000 --> 01:03:34,039
it piles up because now the kids
are home, the window's broken and the

988
01:03:34,119 --> 01:03:36,880
drywall is busted, and you need
to get all this done because you're sick

989
01:03:36,920 --> 01:03:38,000
of living like you live in a
frat house. You don't want to do

990
01:03:38,119 --> 01:03:40,880
that, you want that years ago. Yeah, Mac of All Trades can

991
01:03:40,960 --> 01:03:45,400
take you from your frat house to
your penhouse like downing drive to the big

992
01:03:45,480 --> 01:03:51,480
time. That's right, that's absolutely
right. Mac of All Trades can do

993
01:03:51,559 --> 01:03:53,480
that. They can also do bigger
projects, whether you want something like an

994
01:03:53,519 --> 01:03:57,880
outdoor kitchen, or maybe you want
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995
01:03:57,880 --> 01:03:59,920
They do all of that. Maybe
you want to put a flat screen out

996
01:04:00,119 --> 01:04:01,920
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997
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want to like get electroccuted, call
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998
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999
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1000
01:04:30,639 --> 01:04:39,320
a Western Bay and it sounds one
hundred ships day, little messators toss the

1001
01:04:39,480 --> 01:04:47,159
tunnel, talk about damn homes,
the miles of gul in this hard tone.

1002
01:04:47,559 --> 01:04:54,960
Little y'all rock. I think Brandy
had her drink spiked at Windjammers years

1003
01:04:55,000 --> 01:04:58,840
ago. Do you remember that?
That was like one of the scariest things

1004
01:04:58,840 --> 01:05:02,639
I ever if I had to be
for you terrified because all of a sudden,

1005
01:05:02,760 --> 01:05:05,800
Alex was were you working on the
show then or an intern? I

1006
01:05:05,880 --> 01:05:10,079
think you were hired and you were
doing traffic? Yes, yes, I

1007
01:05:10,280 --> 01:05:14,320
was filling in that morning, yes, Tom George. Oh so I was

1008
01:05:14,360 --> 01:05:18,599
supposed to be doing like the late
time George traffic for the news and everything.

1009
01:05:18,760 --> 01:05:21,800
Yeah, and I was late oh
TV and everything. Yeah. And

1010
01:05:21,960 --> 01:05:28,199
I remember like they were pacing around
and getting pissy, and but then we

1011
01:05:28,360 --> 01:05:30,199
brought you in and you started talking, and I go, wait, it

1012
01:05:30,280 --> 01:05:34,239
sounds like you got your drink spiked. You called me and You're like,

1013
01:05:34,800 --> 01:05:38,719
where are you? Oh at the
clock, And I was like, oh

1014
01:05:38,840 --> 01:05:43,320
my gosh, I don't like I
couldn't even like put it all together,

1015
01:05:43,519 --> 01:05:46,880
Like I didn't even realize what had
happened until I until we started talking about

1016
01:05:46,920 --> 01:05:51,119
it. Yeah, because I got
so sick. I was so sick.

1017
01:05:51,320 --> 01:05:56,880
I threw up so it was so
disgusting, so much. And I remember

1018
01:05:56,920 --> 01:06:00,119
I like I was in the shower
at my friend's house for so long.

1019
01:06:00,280 --> 01:06:04,639
I set the fire alarm, the
smoke alarm off with the steam a pre

1020
01:06:05,920 --> 01:06:10,239
after it had like I was at
the bar, yeah, and I had

1021
01:06:10,320 --> 01:06:12,960
the drink. It was one of
those little halsies. And I drank the

1022
01:06:13,079 --> 01:06:15,719
drink and I was like they have
like they had the benches along the wall,

1023
01:06:15,719 --> 01:06:17,920
and I remember I sat down on
the bench. I was like,

1024
01:06:18,159 --> 01:06:21,960
man, I am fucked up.
What is this? I have to go

1025
01:06:23,039 --> 01:06:25,880
to the bathroom. And I walked
into the bathroom and the whole world is

1026
01:06:25,960 --> 01:06:29,280
just spinning around. And I ended
up getting so sick, and my friend

1027
01:06:29,320 --> 01:06:31,119
came in and was like, what's
going on. I was just just done

1028
01:06:31,159 --> 01:06:35,360
for and the just puking everywhere.
So they got me out of They carried

1029
01:06:35,400 --> 01:06:39,360
me out of the bar. At
this point, I'm like like I had

1030
01:06:39,960 --> 01:06:43,400
gone and tied one on, you
know. I was so sick. I

1031
01:06:43,440 --> 01:06:45,199
got in the shower at my friend's
house, set the fire alarm off with

1032
01:06:45,239 --> 01:06:48,239
the steam from the shower, was
in the shower till probably five in the

1033
01:06:48,320 --> 01:06:50,920
morning. We were on the air
at five minutes. Yeah, right,

1034
01:06:51,559 --> 01:06:55,840
you called me. I got up
from whatever I was. I called you

1035
01:06:55,920 --> 01:07:00,880
because I remember like they were getting
pissed and I was always like kind of

1036
01:07:00,960 --> 01:07:03,800
hyper aware of how they treated people, and I wouldn't I would catch out

1037
01:07:03,840 --> 01:07:06,039
the things I don't. I mean, I used to have arguments. I

1038
01:07:06,079 --> 01:07:12,039
remember my arguments with them over people
that were associated with our show, and

1039
01:07:12,159 --> 01:07:15,800
I there were people I liked and
I wanted to protect them. You were

1040
01:07:15,880 --> 01:07:19,800
one, Danny is another, and
so I remember, and I remember that

1041
01:07:19,880 --> 01:07:24,199
whole thing with the other guy that
you know in the video and all this.

1042
01:07:25,000 --> 01:07:29,119
But I think when you came in
and you afterwards, like I think

1043
01:07:29,159 --> 01:07:31,119
most of the time, the traffic
reports stopped around nine, yeah, and

1044
01:07:31,800 --> 01:07:35,079
I think we went till ten,
and you came in and told us some

1045
01:07:35,159 --> 01:07:38,800
stuff, and I go, man, it sounds like, yeah, you

1046
01:07:38,920 --> 01:07:41,480
just were asking me what happened,
and I said, you know, I

1047
01:07:41,559 --> 01:07:44,480
went and had a drink. I
was celebrating my job on the first forty

1048
01:07:44,480 --> 01:07:45,880
eight. I just found out that
day and I wanted to go have a

1049
01:07:46,000 --> 01:07:50,280
beer with my friends, and oh
man, I remember it came in all

1050
01:07:50,320 --> 01:07:55,079
turned around. I remember Bras smelt
like puke like. I just was like,

1051
01:07:55,320 --> 01:07:59,039
what am I doing? I remember
Tommy was like what the hell?

1052
01:07:59,360 --> 01:08:03,119
Like, I like, he couldn't. I was so bad. Yeah,

1053
01:08:04,199 --> 01:08:10,599
well it's a scary thing. And
I found a story. This happened in

1054
01:08:11,119 --> 01:08:15,399
Michigan about six days ago. This
story hit. Now it's a couple months.

1055
01:08:15,439 --> 01:08:18,800
I think this has been going on. But listen to this and then

1056
01:08:19,039 --> 01:08:23,800
I'll have I have questions that I
don't think that are almost rhetorical, like

1057
01:08:23,920 --> 01:08:28,279
there's no answer. But not easy
for Becky and Jeremy smedendorfness to sit down

1058
01:08:28,359 --> 01:08:32,079
and discuss what happened two months ago
after a Saturday mom's night out in downtown

1059
01:08:32,199 --> 01:08:36,640
Chelsea. It was a silent disco
at Ugly Dog Distillery, where after two

1060
01:08:36,720 --> 01:08:41,520
hours and a few SIPs into her
third drink, things changed. Oh within

1061
01:08:41,600 --> 01:08:45,239
about i'd say five ten minutes,
I started feeling really off. Now this

1062
01:08:45,399 --> 01:08:51,399
woman is attractive. She's an attractive
woman, and I go, what is

1063
01:08:51,479 --> 01:08:58,319
the endgame for the amateur chemist who
gets you is so sick? Because as

1064
01:08:58,359 --> 01:09:01,119
you're going to hear Alex, her
story sounds like yours, and I go,

1065
01:09:01,279 --> 01:09:04,880
what's the end game there is it
to punish people. Chelsea is kind

1066
01:09:04,880 --> 01:09:09,079
of a it would be the Pittsford
of the Detroit kind of you know,

1067
01:09:09,239 --> 01:09:13,760
it's a really quaint little area.
Uh and and this is a pretty woman

1068
01:09:13,800 --> 01:09:16,439
out with her friends. What's the
end game? I think the problem is

1069
01:09:16,640 --> 01:09:20,800
that the douser doesn't realize well that's
what I'm saying, an amateur chemist.

1070
01:09:20,840 --> 01:09:24,439
She doesn't realize so much she's putting
in there. So they put a little

1071
01:09:24,479 --> 01:09:28,119
in the end game is to to
incapacitate the person and take advantage of them

1072
01:09:28,199 --> 01:09:30,680
in some way, like these two
boys at the bar. Then I kept

1073
01:09:30,680 --> 01:09:32,239
trying to get me and my girlfriend
to go to this party with them,

1074
01:09:32,319 --> 01:09:34,760
and we kept saying, no,
I don't want to go to the party.

1075
01:09:34,800 --> 01:09:36,760
I want to stay like we just
got here. I want to stay

1076
01:09:36,840 --> 01:09:39,640
here, Like, don't want to
go to the party with you? Are

1077
01:09:39,680 --> 01:09:49,560
you flattered at this? I mean, girls in the bar that night us

1078
01:09:49,640 --> 01:09:54,079
just got a job as a producer
on a shot was a minting Like god,

1079
01:09:55,239 --> 01:09:59,039
no, but it is. It's
scary. I think when you douse

1080
01:09:59,119 --> 01:10:01,720
someone, you just want to and
capacitate them. So gave me a little

1081
01:10:01,720 --> 01:10:05,159
too much, gave this poor woman
got a little too much, I mean

1082
01:10:05,359 --> 01:10:12,520
really off and it was very different
than anything I had ever experienced. Within

1083
01:10:12,600 --> 01:10:15,560
minutes, Becky said she fell over, couldn't walk, and began losing consciousness.

1084
01:10:15,960 --> 01:10:19,600
The text she sent to her husband
asking him to come get her show

1085
01:10:19,680 --> 01:10:24,039
how quick things went downhill when you're
young and you're new to drinking. We've

1086
01:10:24,079 --> 01:10:27,199
all had those experiences where you know, you had a little too much to

1087
01:10:27,279 --> 01:10:30,880
drink. It was old and those
experiences, I mean, I you know,

1088
01:10:31,199 --> 01:10:33,640
so they call it amateur nighty,
you know what that feels like.

1089
01:10:34,199 --> 01:10:39,279
This was like being on a completely
different planet. As Jeremy went to pick

1090
01:10:39,359 --> 01:10:42,079
up his wife of more than a
decade at the same place he had just

1091
01:10:42,279 --> 01:10:45,840
dropped her off, he could barely
hold her up as she vomitated the whole

1092
01:10:45,840 --> 01:10:46,920
time. I'm like, how could
you get this trunk in an hour and

1093
01:10:46,960 --> 01:10:49,960
a half? Like, now,
think about this, you don't know if

1094
01:10:50,079 --> 01:10:55,479
your wife Danny called you, and
you don't know. You're almost embarrassed,

1095
01:10:55,960 --> 01:10:58,600
right, You're almost mad at her, Like, come on, we got

1096
01:10:58,680 --> 01:11:01,479
kids to do tomorrow. I get
going out with your girlfriend now a problem

1097
01:11:01,520 --> 01:11:05,359
with that, But you're gonna be
this drunk, like puking drunk that you

1098
01:11:05,439 --> 01:11:08,960
know, right, this doesn't make
any sense, like, this isn't you.

1099
01:11:09,359 --> 01:11:13,119
Eventually, Becky was rushed to the
hospital and Jeremy suspected I have to

1100
01:11:13,199 --> 01:11:15,560
think up to that point though,
he's pissed. He's not saying it,

1101
01:11:15,640 --> 01:11:17,439
but he's going, this isn't you, This isn't who I'm marry, what

1102
01:11:17,520 --> 01:11:20,319
are we doing here? Right?
But she irritated, she went to the

1103
01:11:20,399 --> 01:11:23,880
rave to begin with, what are
you doing at a rave? Whatever?

1104
01:11:23,960 --> 01:11:26,520
He's always supposed to be a couple
of hours? Oh yeah, yeah,

1105
01:11:26,600 --> 01:11:28,680
yeah, the silent disco? Would
that be like a rave kind of?

1106
01:11:28,760 --> 01:11:30,760
Yeah? Well, I mean sort
of. Yeah. Your got headphones on

1107
01:11:30,840 --> 01:11:33,239
and you're listening to music and you're
thinking a room of other people who are

1108
01:11:33,279 --> 01:11:34,960
doing the same. Yeah, what
I mean, it's sort of the same

1109
01:11:35,199 --> 01:11:38,720
yea vibes, you know. Sure, I didn't even think of that.

1110
01:11:38,880 --> 01:11:42,359
And she may have been drugged,
but says the hospital wasn't equipped to test

1111
01:11:42,439 --> 01:11:45,199
in time, and even then,
drugs like GHB are hard to prove.

1112
01:11:45,640 --> 01:11:48,079
Even at that time, they didn't
take the drugging seriously, and that's kind

1113
01:11:48,079 --> 01:11:51,279
of part of the awareness, Like
maybe they kind of did, but everyone

1114
01:11:51,319 --> 01:11:55,960
just kind of chalks it up to
drinking too much. That's what everyone assumes.

1115
01:11:56,199 --> 01:11:59,159
In the week since the incident,
the couple has been frustratingly waiting for

1116
01:11:59,279 --> 01:12:03,359
answers. Both they and police had
for more people saying the same thing happened

1117
01:12:03,399 --> 01:12:09,199
to them, but so far no
silent suspects. The distillery still hasn't commented

1118
01:12:09,239 --> 01:12:14,039
on the incident and declined to talk
when I visited today. They're not responsible,

1119
01:12:14,359 --> 01:12:17,199
I mean, but I am very
disappointed in their reaction to the whole

1120
01:12:17,239 --> 01:12:23,880
situation. I would have expected at
least some sort of acknowledgement that this allegedly

1121
01:12:23,960 --> 01:12:27,600
happened, and here's what we're doing
about it. The speed endors are confident

1122
01:12:27,640 --> 01:12:31,279
Becky's drink was spiked with GHB,
but given lack of concrete evidence, they

1123
01:12:31,319 --> 01:12:35,039
aren't hopeful anyone will be charged.
They just want to spread awareness that this

1124
01:12:35,199 --> 01:12:41,159
can happen and hope victims are supported
and believed. But I feel really pulled

1125
01:12:42,279 --> 01:12:47,600
by just the trauma of the situation
to spread awareness as far as I can,

1126
01:12:47,760 --> 01:12:51,039
because we've got to break the silence
on this stuff. It's a weird

1127
01:12:51,199 --> 01:12:56,560
thing. GHB. I'm not even
familiar with that did anybody know what that

1128
01:12:56,640 --> 01:12:59,479
stands for. I meant to look
it up on a friend of time,

1129
01:12:59,520 --> 01:13:02,520
but so I'm not even familiar with
the chemical that they're talking about. But

1130
01:13:03,239 --> 01:13:09,640
the idea that sure I can understand
where a bar and you would almost as

1131
01:13:09,680 --> 01:13:14,079
the person this happened to, and
having other people say it happened to them

1132
01:13:14,199 --> 01:13:17,079
or they had a similar experience there, you would wish they would go,

1133
01:13:17,199 --> 01:13:20,880
hey, we don't believe that you
know anybody in our place, but we

1134
01:13:21,039 --> 01:13:24,560
are. We are. You heard
this a few times. We're gonna do

1135
01:13:24,640 --> 01:13:29,199
something. But do you want that
out that somebody maybe might can drink your

1136
01:13:29,239 --> 01:13:31,000
bar? You know what I'm saying. I mean, this is your livelihood.

1137
01:13:31,000 --> 01:13:34,239
What are you gonna do so you
can? I mean, it's understandable,

1138
01:13:34,279 --> 01:13:36,960
It's it's not noble, but it's
understandable. Well, at the time,

1139
01:13:38,000 --> 01:13:40,319
I didn't even want to say the
name of the bar because I know

1140
01:13:40,479 --> 01:13:44,119
it's not typical of their I've been
in there hundreds of times and had great

1141
01:13:44,239 --> 01:13:47,479
times. You know, not I've
ever had. You never think about when

1142
01:13:47,520 --> 01:13:50,359
you're in your neighborhood bar, that's
going to happen, you know, you

1143
01:13:50,560 --> 01:13:58,760
literally don't so that happened how many
years ago? Oh god, twenty eleven.

1144
01:13:59,000 --> 01:14:01,359
Okay, do you have pe tsd
at all? From that? Do

1145
01:14:01,439 --> 01:14:03,640
you get a little nervous when you
go out to bars? Do you take

1146
01:14:04,199 --> 01:14:09,279
definitely don't, Like I don't leave
my drinks. I don't accept rinks from

1147
01:14:09,279 --> 01:14:13,960
strangers. I don't. You know, I'm super I you you almost have

1148
01:14:14,039 --> 01:14:16,079
to be, and especially like I
live in the city and myself. But

1149
01:14:16,119 --> 01:14:18,520
I mean, if somebody were to
buy you a drink and you could see

1150
01:14:18,520 --> 01:14:21,520
the bartender make it, that's a
difference. But if they come over to

1151
01:14:21,600 --> 01:14:24,920
me like a drink in their hand
and they're like, hey, I got

1152
01:14:25,000 --> 01:14:27,600
this for you, I immediately am
like thank you, and I set it

1153
01:14:27,680 --> 01:14:30,439
down behind me and don't touch it, you know, okay, because you

1154
01:14:30,520 --> 01:14:32,600
can't, you know, I mean, yeah, you got to think always

1155
01:14:32,640 --> 01:14:35,039
in the back of your mind.
It's got to take some of the fun

1156
01:14:35,119 --> 01:14:38,399
at it, right well, you
know what I mean. It's because it's

1157
01:14:38,399 --> 01:14:41,760
a you know, paranoid all the
time. It does, you know,

1158
01:14:41,840 --> 01:14:44,960
you don't you don't obviously let it
Like obviously, the right after it happened,

1159
01:14:44,960 --> 01:14:47,199
I was like, I'm not going
out ever again. And unfortunately this

1160
01:14:47,479 --> 01:14:51,760
young man who's I think now in
jail, actually ended up attacking a woman

1161
01:14:51,840 --> 01:14:58,000
the following evening, like he made
it happen with her. Really. Yeah,

1162
01:14:58,359 --> 01:15:00,239
And that's how I found out because
I I called the gentleman like it

1163
01:15:00,319 --> 01:15:03,119
was a friend of mine and his
friend. It was his friend that did

1164
01:15:03,199 --> 01:15:05,279
it. I called my friend and
I was like, what's with your boy?

1165
01:15:05,279 --> 01:15:09,319
And he was At first he got
all defensive and it was like he

1166
01:15:09,359 --> 01:15:11,359
would never do that. I don't
know what you're talking about. It must

1167
01:15:11,359 --> 01:15:14,560
have been somebody else. And then
like a couple hours later he called and

1168
01:15:14,720 --> 01:15:17,520
was like, I'm so sorry.
You'll never believe what happened. He just

1169
01:15:17,560 --> 01:15:21,800
got arrested apparently assaulted somebody at a
part. Like so he was just this

1170
01:15:21,920 --> 01:15:27,279
kid was just raring to go.
But you know, and you never know,

1171
01:15:27,680 --> 01:15:30,199
but you don't. You don't let
it ruin. It doesn't ruin every

1172
01:15:30,239 --> 01:15:31,600
good time. You just be a
little bit more cautious, right, I

1173
01:15:31,680 --> 01:15:35,039
mean, especially if you're a girl. Don't don't take it. I gotta

1174
01:15:35,079 --> 01:15:38,159
tell you, man, do you
know how good we got it? Yeah?

1175
01:15:38,199 --> 01:15:41,000
Oh yeah? And do you know
how being white men? Yeah?

1176
01:15:41,079 --> 01:15:45,479
In this country? Absolutely? Yea
god, Well, you ever thought about

1177
01:15:45,479 --> 01:15:47,720
getting no. Never thought about getting
no. I never thought of no,

1178
01:15:47,840 --> 01:15:51,439
because no one spike in my drink. No, No, they're not.

1179
01:15:51,680 --> 01:15:55,039
Now, I'm not my wife bite
spike mine. I never. That's where

1180
01:15:55,039 --> 01:15:57,520
a different things must get me to
clean the house. I never. Uh,

1181
01:15:59,039 --> 01:16:00,600
you don't. I mean, I'm
not saying that it can't happen to

1182
01:16:00,680 --> 01:16:04,119
a man, but its likely No, well no, I mean it's like

1183
01:16:04,560 --> 01:16:08,880
you got to think about the power
dynamic like often all the time. It's

1184
01:16:08,920 --> 01:16:11,640
like some kind of polo dynamic.
You gotta think, you know, yeah,

1185
01:16:11,680 --> 01:16:15,239
but I always go like, it's
got to be the closest thing to

1186
01:16:15,359 --> 01:16:19,359
necrophilia you can get without necrophilia.
I don't know, Bill Cosby, don't

1187
01:16:19,399 --> 01:16:25,119
you like somebody who's enjoying the moment
with you and want to want to desire

1188
01:16:25,319 --> 01:16:29,600
you as much as you desire them? Or it's literally just like complete control

1189
01:16:29,720 --> 01:16:32,119
over the person, which is definitely
a kink, you know what I mean.

1190
01:16:32,239 --> 01:16:35,319
So it's definitely you know, there
are people out there just want Fine,

1191
01:16:38,239 --> 01:16:41,079
there's the Internet now you can find
all the like one. The geniuses

1192
01:16:41,159 --> 01:16:44,359
designed this for you perverts to meet
up. It's okay, it's okay.

1193
01:16:44,600 --> 01:16:47,239
They didn't have that back then,
so they did not like that. So

1194
01:16:47,399 --> 01:16:50,600
he was, you know, he
was thinking old. Yeah, now there's

1195
01:16:50,640 --> 01:16:54,960
apps, there's everything there. They
go on the internet and you can find

1196
01:16:55,039 --> 01:16:59,239
somebody that likes to take. Well, now we have the Rochester kink Society.

1197
01:16:59,520 --> 01:17:02,439
We're in here. That's good,
you know, and they have they

1198
01:17:02,479 --> 01:17:06,840
have their safe words. Yeah,
I mean for ouch, get off my

1199
01:17:08,039 --> 01:17:13,960
hair. I just I did.
I remember that night? You remember being

1200
01:17:14,079 --> 01:17:16,720
like, Wow, that's a that's
a traumatizing experience, you know. I

1201
01:17:16,840 --> 01:17:21,560
actually remember you called me after the
show. I went home and you were

1202
01:17:21,600 --> 01:17:26,439
like, you do you want to
go? Maybe just check yourself out?

1203
01:17:26,640 --> 01:17:30,680
Like so I went and I had
enough of it in my system that there

1204
01:17:30,720 --> 01:17:33,079
were still traces of it in my
urine. Wow. I was like,

1205
01:17:33,199 --> 01:17:38,000
I'm almost one hundred percent sure I
was rufied with something. And she was

1206
01:17:38,159 --> 01:17:40,039
you know, they do, they
give you a hard time. How much

1207
01:17:40,079 --> 01:17:42,279
did you have to drink? How
many drinks? They ask all the questions.

1208
01:17:42,479 --> 01:17:45,000
Then she's like, well, you
know, it's often undetectable depending on

1209
01:17:45,079 --> 01:17:46,319
how long there was so much fit. She was like, yeah, there

1210
01:17:46,399 --> 01:17:49,439
was there was trace amounts in there. Ye, Like I couldn't believe it.

1211
01:17:49,520 --> 01:17:51,800
I wouldn't have known that. If
you hadn't, I wouldn't have even

1212
01:17:51,840 --> 01:17:55,960
done it. I was like so
freaked out, and especially like I was

1213
01:17:56,039 --> 01:17:58,960
already feeling like it was a mess
of a morning. You know, I'm

1214
01:17:59,000 --> 01:18:01,159
never I never not show up for
work, you know, Yeah, I

1215
01:18:01,199 --> 01:18:04,279
don't. There was something about that
whole thing. And I remember sitting there

1216
01:18:04,319 --> 01:18:08,560
going this up here, and I
don't know at the time. Yeah,

1217
01:18:09,159 --> 01:18:12,760
it just whatever it was, I
could tell like something wasn't right. You

1218
01:18:12,840 --> 01:18:16,039
just have this intuitiveness about people,
right, this was out of character for

1219
01:18:16,159 --> 01:18:21,640
you. I knew what they were
thinking. Didn't they suspend you at work?

1220
01:18:23,439 --> 01:18:26,239
Yeah? But not for that?
Oh okay, what did you get

1221
01:18:26,239 --> 01:18:29,640
suspended? Form? Because I did
something on the I said something on the

1222
01:18:29,720 --> 01:18:33,319
traffic report, like early on that
they didn't think was appropriate or something,

1223
01:18:33,399 --> 01:18:36,000
And well I thought it was because
of this incident. No. I was

1224
01:18:36,039 --> 01:18:39,439
trying to kick it to you guys, and I said, because you were

1225
01:18:39,479 --> 01:18:41,840
like, you should make the traffic
report your own. Remember when we were

1226
01:18:41,880 --> 01:18:47,279
talking and I said something, and
I have no idea what could be possibly

1227
01:18:47,359 --> 01:18:49,800
suspendable? You and I got suspended
because you swore them the air once.

1228
01:18:50,279 --> 01:18:55,000
But I mean, like other than
that, even the heat the gentleman we

1229
01:18:55,079 --> 01:18:59,880
were talking about earlier. When I
got hired by him, like it was

1230
01:19:00,159 --> 01:19:01,840
he he was like my buddy,
you know what I mean, all over

1231
01:19:01,920 --> 01:19:05,800
the station together and stuff. When
I started working for you guys and you've

1232
01:19:05,840 --> 01:19:10,199
started to like me and bring me
in on your conversations, all of a

1233
01:19:10,239 --> 01:19:13,920
sudden, the entire dynamic change.
Yeah, sure, because he was very

1234
01:19:14,079 --> 01:19:15,359
intimidated. Yeah, it was all
of a sudden, like I was part

1235
01:19:15,359 --> 01:19:20,760
of the cool kids and I wasn't
there. I remember this. If you

1236
01:19:21,159 --> 01:19:26,399
are a boss, you're supposed to
be a leader. And sometimes the best

1237
01:19:26,439 --> 01:19:29,880
thing a leader can do is just
step back and listen and say nothing.

1238
01:19:30,520 --> 01:19:34,600
But when you start wearing your heart
on your sleeve and you come up in

1239
01:19:34,680 --> 01:19:40,479
a conversation or come up on a
conversation and act all timid and then say

1240
01:19:40,520 --> 01:19:43,479
to me, and I'm not kidding, this is what was said to me.

1241
01:19:44,199 --> 01:19:47,840
Uh yeah, you don't think much
of me at all. You're like,

1242
01:19:48,560 --> 01:19:50,800
you know, you're like the quarterback
everybody likes, and I'm just that

1243
01:19:50,880 --> 01:19:55,720
other guy. When when a fucking
guy says that to you, Oh my

1244
01:19:55,920 --> 01:19:59,560
god, what is wrong with you? Yeah? I mean that I that's

1245
01:19:59,600 --> 01:20:01,880
not even I wanted to go,
hey, man, go in to bathroom,

1246
01:20:01,960 --> 01:20:04,159
check that you have balls, because
I don't believe you do. I

1247
01:20:04,359 --> 01:20:09,399
could not believe what I was hearing, and I knew then. So now

1248
01:20:09,560 --> 01:20:12,960
that's all I needed, right,
that's all I needed. I'll never forget

1249
01:20:13,000 --> 01:20:15,760
I went into his I fucking stormed
out of meetings on purpose, just because

1250
01:20:15,760 --> 01:20:18,840
I could. I screamed at that
guy, put on your big boy pants

1251
01:20:18,880 --> 01:20:21,840
and figure it the fuck out.
And you know what, every other manager

1252
01:20:21,920 --> 01:20:25,760
that all the manager's offices in this
were together. You know what they did.

1253
01:20:25,800 --> 01:20:30,039
They got closer to stop their fucking
door, and I bellowed, put

1254
01:20:30,119 --> 01:20:32,800
on your big boy pants. I
mean I fucking so it rocked the walls.

1255
01:20:33,239 --> 01:20:38,159
Screamed, put on your big boy
pants and figure it out. All

1256
01:20:38,199 --> 01:20:43,159
because you basically admitted to me that
you were a giant pussy. And I

1257
01:20:43,760 --> 01:20:45,199
was like, well, then fuck
you. That's it. You're not gonna

1258
01:20:45,239 --> 01:20:47,000
do that. But you know what
that said to mean, There's not one

1259
01:20:47,079 --> 01:20:50,560
way you were ever gonna help me
advance my career. You're never gonna help

1260
01:20:50,600 --> 01:20:55,399
me grow this thing. All you're
gonna be is in the way and you're

1261
01:20:55,439 --> 01:20:59,079
a puppet. So that's fine.
I'm gonna just kick your right in the

1262
01:20:59,119 --> 01:21:01,960
teeth every time. And I did
you did? You did? I never

1263
01:21:02,079 --> 01:21:05,560
said that to anybody else, right
now I did. Yeah No, But

1264
01:21:05,880 --> 01:21:10,520
I'm like, oh, okay,
yeah wow. I once he said that,

1265
01:21:10,640 --> 01:21:13,640
I knew it was over. It
was over. You changed, like

1266
01:21:13,760 --> 01:21:15,920
I didn't know if you thought I
was going. No, I don't feel

1267
01:21:15,000 --> 01:21:20,399
that way, hey man, fuck
off. Yeah you opened the door.

1268
01:21:20,880 --> 01:21:24,319
Yeah, you opened the door.
And the thing was I could see like

1269
01:21:24,920 --> 01:21:30,880
and and people who act who come
from a place of fear, uh you

1270
01:21:30,960 --> 01:21:33,680
know, they're that passive aggressive,
everything's like a little dig in this and

1271
01:21:33,760 --> 01:21:36,560
that. And maybe we've all been
there. I certainly have done things in

1272
01:21:36,640 --> 01:21:41,399
my own life that would be of
that thing. And it is mostly motivated

1273
01:21:41,479 --> 01:21:45,159
by fear. And the other thing
is like, at some point, you

1274
01:21:45,279 --> 01:21:47,079
just gotta go fuck it, man, I'm worth more than this shit.

1275
01:21:47,479 --> 01:21:50,159
I don't. He doesn't live in
fear of anything. Either you're in with

1276
01:21:50,279 --> 01:21:54,359
you're with me, or you're not
right right. And this guy was one

1277
01:21:54,399 --> 01:21:57,560
of these who you just wish he
had like a little more, and he

1278
01:21:57,680 --> 01:22:00,840
started to get it a little bit
at the end a little bit, because

1279
01:22:00,840 --> 01:22:03,319
he did kind of defend me a
few times, but it was too late.

1280
01:22:03,359 --> 01:22:08,079
I was already like, that's looking
for the exit as fast as I

1281
01:22:08,199 --> 01:22:11,159
good. I'm sorry. Yeah,
just you know, being a man in

1282
01:22:11,279 --> 01:22:13,880
the room among men, you know, you show your weakness. Well,

1283
01:22:13,880 --> 01:22:15,159
I don't even you know, you
don't even have to come and go here.

1284
01:22:15,960 --> 01:22:19,039
You know, those guys are ridiculous
too, you know what I'm saying.

1285
01:22:19,239 --> 01:22:21,840
No, I mean like, oh, I have a little confident,

1286
01:22:23,039 --> 01:22:26,960
just confidence and if you don't just
stay quiet, stay quiet. Because the

1287
01:22:27,039 --> 01:22:30,920
guy who U there was another guy
who came in after our friend JT who's

1288
01:22:30,960 --> 01:22:33,600
no longer here. Yeah. Uh, that guy kind of impressed me because

1289
01:22:33,640 --> 01:22:39,680
he usually stayed quiet and then would
have some ideas and things that I I

1290
01:22:39,840 --> 01:22:42,640
liked. I did, and I
used to sit with him a lot.

1291
01:22:42,880 --> 01:22:45,439
But I wasn't a huge fan of
the person overall. But I mean,

1292
01:22:45,560 --> 01:22:46,840
you know, I got it.
I had more. I had respect.

1293
01:22:46,920 --> 01:22:49,560
I didn't have respect for the other
guy. For me, it was the

1294
01:22:49,600 --> 01:22:55,079
opposite. But yeah, interesting,
yep, well I could see that because

1295
01:22:55,079 --> 01:22:58,399
there was a lot of like,
they did you dirty, They really did.

1296
01:22:59,279 --> 01:23:00,199
I mean, they did you both
dirty, but they really did you.

1297
01:23:00,319 --> 01:23:03,159
Well, they did you no respect
over there at all. You did

1298
01:23:03,319 --> 01:23:08,079
so much work, and they basically
they did. I mean they were cool

1299
01:23:08,079 --> 01:23:11,239
with that. I mean I never
had they were cool to me. I

1300
01:23:11,439 --> 01:23:14,920
just had certain things I wanted and
they weren't gonna give it. They weren't

1301
01:23:14,920 --> 01:23:17,760
gonna let the ownership stuff happen.
So I was out. Uh, Jamieson

1302
01:23:17,840 --> 01:23:20,279
went out on the street. Loved
it, and we will get to some

1303
01:23:20,439 --> 01:23:26,119
Jamison on the street. He did
it right here in Fairport, right,

1304
01:23:26,239 --> 01:23:29,840
and he met some interesting people.
There's some like interesting people in this in

1305
01:23:29,960 --> 01:23:32,880
town, not from here, but
in town. Mult Conners Iris Pub is

1306
01:23:32,920 --> 01:23:35,239
a place he told them they should
go. They should go, said,

1307
01:23:35,279 --> 01:23:42,520
you should go to Mall Connres.
It's right there, seventeen Lyftbridge Lane.

1308
01:23:42,560 --> 01:23:48,920
And this experience'll never forget, trust
me. I know, Saturday night,

1309
01:23:49,760 --> 01:23:54,520
when you walk into Mall Connrees,
you just feel that warmth and friendliness and

1310
01:23:54,680 --> 01:23:57,119
fun. I was in there with
Danny once and he goes, it's always

1311
01:23:57,119 --> 01:24:00,159
a Friday in here. It's always
it was a Tuesday night, So he's

1312
01:24:00,159 --> 01:24:02,119
a Friday. Some woman's doing like
the theme from Titanic and stuff, and

1313
01:24:02,119 --> 01:24:06,079
I'm like, whoa, this is
a two this infamous Cougar Corner. Oh

1314
01:24:06,199 --> 01:24:09,880
no, and that happened there too. Yeah, that's that's what happened there.

1315
01:24:10,039 --> 01:24:13,199
I forgot about that completely. No, there's always there's always something going

1316
01:24:13,239 --> 01:24:16,000
on there. Cougar Corner became that
a whole other fight with another. Yeah,

1317
01:24:16,840 --> 01:24:20,399
sorry, no, it's okay.
They got a great, great menu

1318
01:24:20,479 --> 01:24:24,359
over there, a little bit Irish, little bit of American, right Irish

1319
01:24:24,399 --> 01:24:28,439
American cuisine, things like bangers and
mass right to the Mulconres burger. And

1320
01:24:28,600 --> 01:24:30,439
they have all kinds of wings over
there. I was talking to Jamison today

1321
01:24:30,479 --> 01:24:32,880
and he goes, I love Moulconre's
wings. That's right. You can get

1322
01:24:32,920 --> 01:24:38,119
the roaster style wings fried or grilled
with the Guinness gold Wing sauce if you

1323
01:24:38,239 --> 01:24:42,279
hear a little ghost chili pepper sauce. And they have live music and a

1324
01:24:42,399 --> 01:24:46,039
whole lot of fun always from Kraft
cocktails to wines, to beers and just

1325
01:24:46,159 --> 01:24:49,840
a fun atmosphere. It is Mulconres
and you can check them out online to

1326
01:24:49,960 --> 01:24:55,439
find out the latest at Mulconres dot
com. Macaball Trades the name says it

1327
01:24:55,560 --> 01:25:00,720
all five eight five two O two
eighteen and macaball Trade dot Net, Jimmy'sz's

1328
01:25:00,760 --> 01:25:04,520
Plates and Shakes Rock and Brockport,
and maybe your backyard with the food truck,

1329
01:25:04,600 --> 01:25:08,359
Danny, bring the truck. Oh, if you got a big party

1330
01:25:08,399 --> 01:25:11,920
coming on, it's Jimmy likes to
say a backyard banger. Yeah, or

1331
01:25:12,000 --> 01:25:15,279
maybe you got a corporate picnic going
on at some point this summer does abt

1332
01:25:15,359 --> 01:25:17,159
the truck and save the clean up. That's right, Plates and Shakes dot

1333
01:25:17,199 --> 01:25:20,279
Com. I like that, invite
the truck and save the cleanup. They

1334
01:25:20,319 --> 01:25:24,439
even do drop off catering or pick
up catering that you can have for any

1335
01:25:24,520 --> 01:25:27,319
kind of party as well. And
you'll find out all that information that's handled

1336
01:25:27,359 --> 01:25:31,199
by Poppy over there Plates and Shakes
dot Com. Right there on main Street

1337
01:25:31,239 --> 01:25:34,960
in Brockport. It's Jimmy's E's Plates
and Shakes and online at Plates and Shakes

1338
01:25:35,000 --> 01:25:48,239
dot com. Look, if you
had one shot, one opportunity when your

1339
01:25:48,279 --> 01:25:54,279
brothers were little, he had a
townhouse that had a finished basement with a

1340
01:25:54,359 --> 01:25:58,880
bar and we put it jim down
there and I had a stereo, any

1341
01:25:58,960 --> 01:26:05,760
big speakers, cranks your mother came
from for three floors up because I think

1342
01:26:05,840 --> 01:26:10,000
he won't up. One of the
guys, forget what he wrote down.

1343
01:26:10,680 --> 01:26:13,319
I think I was doing a whole
dance and everything in his mouth when the

1344
01:26:13,399 --> 01:26:16,600
words won't come out, he's choking
out. Everybody. You don't like Eminem

1345
01:26:16,720 --> 01:26:21,399
hun stuff? Listen? Why?
Why? What's wrong with Eminem's trying to

1346
01:26:21,479 --> 01:26:26,000
sing? Get right on that mic? What do you say he's irrelevant?

1347
01:26:26,079 --> 01:26:30,279
Now? It's just what he makes
his bad. What he makes his bad?

1348
01:26:30,520 --> 01:26:32,600
What's bad about it? It's just
the same. He's just spearing out

1349
01:26:32,640 --> 01:26:38,039
the same dog. It's just so
bad. Rolling Stones keep producing stuff.

1350
01:26:38,079 --> 01:26:43,199
They're cool, the Rolling Stones who
listen to me? Everybody. Let's compare

1351
01:26:43,279 --> 01:26:45,199
what their streams are now compared what
it used to be. And let's compare.

1352
01:26:46,159 --> 01:26:49,560
I bet people think the same thing. Well, old people can't stream

1353
01:26:49,640 --> 01:26:55,439
that recent music. They're also did
his recent music, Yeah, compared through

1354
01:26:55,479 --> 01:26:58,000
his old music. What do you
think he's gonna have on screences old stuff

1355
01:26:58,000 --> 01:27:00,920
because it was good, or his
new stuff? His new stuff is old?

1356
01:27:01,399 --> 01:27:05,439
Yeah? Back then, what do
you think he's just He's riding on

1357
01:27:05,640 --> 01:27:10,880
his his own cotail. So everyone's
making the same stuff, and honestly it's

1358
01:27:10,960 --> 01:27:15,920
better. Okay, who's your favorite
rapper, now rapper? Or who's your

1359
01:27:15,960 --> 01:27:18,600
favorite artist? Artists? All right, just give me your number one,

1360
01:27:19,640 --> 01:27:24,720
just one. One. Shouldn't be
this hard. The Jamison ran top five.

1361
01:27:27,359 --> 01:27:30,680
All right, Well, why you
think think like we're gonna go.

1362
01:27:30,159 --> 01:27:39,359
We're gonna do. Jamieson on the
Street, reporting live from downtown Fairport,

1363
01:27:39,439 --> 01:27:44,359
New York. Jamison on the Streets. Who is it now? Lucky?

1364
01:27:45,600 --> 01:27:48,920
All right? Next near next question
on the street is who is lucky?

1365
01:27:49,600 --> 01:27:53,239
And they are gonna tell you they're
lucky, but they don't know lucky.

1366
01:27:53,880 --> 01:27:56,039
I'm lucky. They get to talk
to you, So listen to this.

1367
01:27:56,199 --> 01:28:00,600
Jamieson went out today and h ran
into people right around this fair Report area

1368
01:28:00,159 --> 01:28:05,159
historic Erie Canal. What's your name? And why are you? What do

1369
01:28:05,239 --> 01:28:12,199
you like about Rochester so far?
Rockchester? Yeah, it's kind of been

1370
01:28:12,239 --> 01:28:16,760
to Rochester, Rochester the city.
Yeah, we haven't been there. So

1371
01:28:16,920 --> 01:28:20,359
we just pulled in, literally just
pulled in. Where do you guys are?

1372
01:28:20,399 --> 01:28:24,159
Where are you coming from? Austin, Texas? Austin, Texas,

1373
01:28:24,199 --> 01:28:28,760
that's pretty far, yes, sir? What brings you here? We decided

1374
01:28:28,800 --> 01:28:32,119
to do the Erie Canal Adventures.
We saw it and thought that looked pretty

1375
01:28:32,159 --> 01:28:35,600
cool and haven't had a chance to
ever do the Erie Canal. I grew

1376
01:28:35,680 --> 01:28:40,800
up, all of us grew up
hearing about it, and you always had

1377
01:28:40,840 --> 01:28:46,640
to learn the song about the Erie
Canal. And so this was this was

1378
01:28:46,680 --> 01:28:53,319
an opportunitist to kind of live a
little bit of Americana. So all right,

1379
01:28:53,439 --> 01:28:57,760
so how many stripes are on the
American flag? All right? Does

1380
01:28:57,840 --> 01:29:02,079
this person Austin Texas get this question
right? How many stripes are on the

1381
01:29:02,119 --> 01:29:06,159
American flag? Now? Billy,
I've been told that Austin is the blueberry

1382
01:29:06,319 --> 01:29:09,920
in the cherry pie that is Texas. Yes, that is true. So

1383
01:29:10,399 --> 01:29:14,479
I'm going to say that they still, though, are smart enough to get

1384
01:29:14,520 --> 01:29:16,199
this right. I'm gonna say they're
correct, Okay, even though you don't

1385
01:29:16,199 --> 01:29:19,119
like the blueberry apparently. No,
No, I'm going there in the summer

1386
01:29:19,159 --> 01:29:21,439
action. I'm just saying, I'm
trying to give perspective. Yes, I

1387
01:29:21,560 --> 01:29:25,239
know, all right, like we
play Hollywood Squares, right, Yeah,

1388
01:29:25,279 --> 01:29:28,399
you have to give like some reasoning
for your answer. So what do you

1389
01:29:28,439 --> 01:29:31,159
say, Alex. I think Austin, Texas is like hipster Texas, so

1390
01:29:31,239 --> 01:29:34,039
he definitely does not know how many
stripes? Does not know? Okay,

1391
01:29:34,159 --> 01:29:43,279
here we got no, yeah,
thirteen all right, and how many stars?

1392
01:29:43,760 --> 01:29:45,359
Does he know? How many stars? Danny? You got the stripes?

1393
01:29:46,680 --> 01:29:54,920
A second? Yeah, the ogal, Yes, colonies you got it?

1394
01:29:55,039 --> 01:30:04,000
Yeah, counties. You gotta be
this so, uh get it right

1395
01:30:04,039 --> 01:30:06,840
or wrong? I think you got
it? Got it? Yeah, you

1396
01:30:06,880 --> 01:30:12,680
got the other one fifty all right, job, thank you, job,

1397
01:30:13,000 --> 01:30:15,560
thank you. Now I mean he
got to the age where he starts to

1398
01:30:15,640 --> 01:30:21,199
forget things. Jamison said he never
heard of the Eurie Canal song. You

1399
01:30:21,279 --> 01:30:29,920
never knew the Eurie Canal song.
I Got a mule. Her name is

1400
01:30:30,199 --> 01:30:36,840
sal fifteen miles on the Emica.
Now it's a good old buck and a

1401
01:30:36,960 --> 01:30:43,840
good old pan. Fifteen miles on
the American. You don't know this song?

1402
01:30:44,159 --> 01:30:48,279
Heard shot? Yeah, your grandfather
used to sing until anyone in my

1403
01:30:48,359 --> 01:30:57,000
ears were bleeding. Yeah the way, No it's not. It's a guy

1404
01:30:57,079 --> 01:31:05,199
named Carl Gunner something. Bridge,
Yeah, low bridge, which now they

1405
01:31:05,279 --> 01:31:09,520
make it the bridge here. They
have a real traffic problem in Fairport.

1406
01:31:09,560 --> 01:31:12,840
If the bridge goes up and the
train's coming through, Like you get over

1407
01:31:12,920 --> 01:31:15,600
the bridge and then the train comes, it's like a it's a perfect storm.

1408
01:31:15,720 --> 01:31:16,880
Yeah, I'm gonna stop. If
the bridge goes up for a boat

1409
01:31:16,920 --> 01:31:18,960
to go under, and then the
bridge lowers down. You go, now

1410
01:31:19,079 --> 01:31:21,920
here comes the train and then you
hit the one lane you know, the

1411
01:31:23,000 --> 01:31:27,359
one lane bridge. Yep, here
and there, yeah, and there you

1412
01:31:27,439 --> 01:31:30,479
go. All right, Jamison back
on the streets. Here's the number two

1413
01:31:30,560 --> 01:31:34,319
person. What's your name? And
how many struts are on the American flow?

1414
01:31:35,119 --> 01:31:42,760
Okay? Her name was what fia
by? Does fia By? No?

1415
01:31:43,399 --> 01:31:46,119
How many stripes are on the American
flag? I'm gonna say no,

1416
01:31:46,760 --> 01:31:49,960
Oh, I have one more phone. I like this from a lot.

1417
01:31:50,600 --> 01:31:54,079
All right, we'll save it,
We'll save it. You're here for a

1418
01:31:54,119 --> 01:31:57,720
few more days. We got more
shows, We got more shows. Uh,

1419
01:31:57,880 --> 01:32:11,720
Danny says no, Alex now no. And how many stars are on

1420
01:32:11,880 --> 01:32:15,279
the American clip? All right?
She said twelve or ten stripes? She

1421
01:32:15,359 --> 01:32:17,159
got to know the stars though,
I mean that's like a staple. I

1422
01:32:17,199 --> 01:32:20,199
could see the stripes and I used
to get this too, is the answer

1423
01:32:20,279 --> 01:32:25,640
all the time. When I did, it was always fitted two. And

1424
01:32:25,720 --> 01:32:29,880
they were so confident about it.
Yeah, they were Porto Rico count Oh

1425
01:32:30,000 --> 01:32:38,640
Hawaii? Did they count well?
Bagel pagoms added or no? No do

1426
01:32:38,800 --> 01:32:44,920
Mexico old Mexico. Here we go. Oh, I didn't ask you,

1427
01:32:44,960 --> 01:32:46,039
Alex. She thinks she got it. Yeah you said no, I said

1428
01:32:46,079 --> 01:32:53,239
no, No. I know Danny
batting pretty good. Here. I used

1429
01:32:53,239 --> 01:32:56,359
to do this. I was Jamison
before Jamison. Yeah, I was on

1430
01:32:56,439 --> 01:32:59,039
the cardhouse. Yeah, we should
probably send me back out. I got

1431
01:32:59,119 --> 01:33:03,119
drinked it a couple Oh amen,
fine, here here comes h I think

1432
01:33:03,159 --> 01:33:12,279
this is the last one you did. Yeah, all right, you made

1433
01:33:12,319 --> 01:33:16,239
fun of old people for forgetting and
losing their mind so you can't remember what.

1434
01:33:18,920 --> 01:33:23,000
So this is the same one where
they told us the keya Boy story.

1435
01:33:23,039 --> 01:33:25,800
I knew he already played this one. I didn't know. Watch him

1436
01:33:25,800 --> 01:33:28,439
cut this one up. I cut
it up. So we took the Key

1437
01:33:28,479 --> 01:33:31,199
of Boys story out of it and
we played this nothing stupid. I hope

1438
01:33:31,199 --> 01:33:35,319
they're not stupid. I'm stupid.
Pressuring how many strikes are on the American

1439
01:33:35,359 --> 01:33:38,439
five for the fourth of je Off? How many? Sure I actually have

1440
01:33:38,520 --> 01:33:41,199
to ask me these questions? Um, I can give you a hint if

1441
01:33:41,239 --> 01:33:46,479
you genuinely don't know. I can't
even think of a number. All right,

1442
01:33:46,640 --> 01:33:51,119
Jamison, what would be your hint
if I genuinely didn't know you strike.

1443
01:33:51,840 --> 01:33:56,439
What's the age you strike when you
become a teenager? Oh, okay,

1444
01:33:56,600 --> 01:34:00,680
that's a great hint. That's a
great hint. Do you become a

1445
01:34:00,760 --> 01:34:05,279
teenager? Yeah? How could it
be? Depending on what state it's in

1446
01:34:05,399 --> 01:34:10,479
the name thirteen. Danny was making
a joke. Just just just relaxed.

1447
01:34:13,399 --> 01:34:18,720
Danny can yet fighting? Oh yeah, probably two of them. Oh,

1448
01:34:18,800 --> 01:34:24,000
I didn't ask get it right or
wrong? I'm gonna say right right,

1449
01:34:24,359 --> 01:34:26,680
Alex, I'm gonna stay wrong because
she said, why did you ask me?

1450
01:34:28,039 --> 01:34:34,920
Here we go. I want to
say, there's like thirteen thirteen realities.

1451
01:34:35,439 --> 01:34:42,800
Okay, you learn something, Thank
you for your Yeah, what's the

1452
01:34:42,840 --> 01:34:46,640
matter? Listen? You hear that
music in the back? Yeah? What

1453
01:34:46,880 --> 01:34:48,880
is that? I don't know.
It might have been music that was in

1454
01:34:48,960 --> 01:34:51,720
the background, so Connery, No, it's when you pause it. I

1455
01:34:51,760 --> 01:34:55,239
could still hear it. It's like
muffled in the ear. Oh you know

1456
01:34:55,279 --> 01:34:59,840
why? It may it may be
the uh the music music thing I had

1457
01:35:00,000 --> 01:35:08,159
bleeding through fifteen miles only here Riker
now Jamison Moran coming up from an Alabama

1458
01:35:10,279 --> 01:35:15,399
fifteen Sorry, Uh, Danny was
now something I didn't get into, and

1459
01:35:15,880 --> 01:35:19,399
Jamieson and I did go see one
of these shows live in a VFW haul

1460
01:35:19,479 --> 01:35:25,880
down in Alabama. Wrestlings, Wrastling, I love Rugs, used to know,

1461
01:35:26,000 --> 01:35:30,960
I know you did, and Danny. It's the twenty fifth anniversary of

1462
01:35:30,600 --> 01:35:35,079
Rage in the Cage. No Hell
in the Cell. The WWE had held

1463
01:35:35,079 --> 01:35:40,520
in the Cell before, but this
was arguably some people considered this the greatest

1464
01:35:40,560 --> 01:35:44,520
Hell in the Cell match, maybe
the greatest wrestling match ever because somebody almost

1465
01:35:44,640 --> 01:35:50,359
died, wasn't the one with mankind
Undertaker mentally ill? Man off the Cage.

1466
01:35:50,439 --> 01:35:56,119
It was such an event, this
particular thing he's talking about that I

1467
01:35:56,319 --> 01:35:59,479
watched it really. Oh yeah,
there was, I know, no,

1468
01:35:59,640 --> 01:36:01,880
but it was on pay per view
or something. We watched I graduated from

1469
01:36:01,920 --> 01:36:08,680
high school. It was on pay
per view. It was that paper view.

1470
01:36:08,720 --> 01:36:11,399
It's pay per view. It was
it was it was called King in

1471
01:36:11,439 --> 01:36:13,239
the Ring or something like that.
It was. It was a pay per

1472
01:36:13,319 --> 01:36:15,640
view event, and this was like
the second to last match, okay,

1473
01:36:15,680 --> 01:36:17,600
and it was a Hell on the
Cell. So they brought in these fifteen

1474
01:36:17,640 --> 01:36:21,359
footsteal cages and put it around the
ring, and leading up to the match,

1475
01:36:21,880 --> 01:36:27,319
Undertaker had a bum ankle and mc
foley really wasn't getting a lot of

1476
01:36:27,359 --> 01:36:30,000
reception from the crowd, which is
the worst thing you can get in wrestling.

1477
01:36:30,199 --> 01:36:32,159
So they're talking about the match and
a guy named Terry Funk, a

1478
01:36:32,199 --> 01:36:35,439
longtime rustler, suggested to them,
Hey, how did you were you into

1479
01:36:35,479 --> 01:36:39,840
wrestling? I used to watch it
all the time? You did? So

1480
01:36:40,479 --> 01:36:44,319
Mick an undertake, how are we
going to make this match work? And

1481
01:36:44,479 --> 01:36:45,960
Terry Funk goes, well, you
could start the match on the top of

1482
01:36:46,000 --> 01:36:49,520
the cage. No one's ever done
that. So they're like, okay,

1483
01:36:50,239 --> 01:36:53,399
So they start climbing up to the
top of the cage, and even the

1484
01:36:53,399 --> 01:36:56,039
announcers like whoa, whoa, whoa, what are they doing on part of

1485
01:36:56,039 --> 01:36:58,920
the scrap? No? Yeah,
no. At this point, the rustlers

1486
01:36:58,960 --> 01:37:00,279
were kind of figuring it out.
They knew what the result was. You

1487
01:37:00,319 --> 01:37:08,079
know, the tooth is the tooth. We haven't gotten there yet. Yeah,

1488
01:37:08,800 --> 01:37:11,359
But but hang on a second.
So if they were going up there

1489
01:37:11,399 --> 01:37:15,000
and it wasn't scripted, what eventually
happened and we'll play the audio from the

1490
01:37:15,159 --> 01:37:20,039
event itself? Were they was he
cognizant of what he did? Do you

1491
01:37:20,119 --> 01:37:24,800
think it was kind of like just
a a one off, like he didn't

1492
01:37:24,840 --> 01:37:27,640
think he really hurt the guy like
this or did he know he said that.

1493
01:37:27,920 --> 01:37:30,560
He said that he had an out
of body experience that he thought he

1494
01:37:30,640 --> 01:37:32,119
was dead and all he was thinking
was get up, Get up, Please

1495
01:37:32,159 --> 01:37:35,119
get up. It was nuts.
They were on no but the play the

1496
01:37:35,239 --> 01:37:40,319
other I don't think the Undertaker realized
he was going to throw him off the

1497
01:37:40,399 --> 01:37:42,640
top of the cage. It was
like a spur of the moment thing.

1498
01:37:42,880 --> 01:37:46,239
Yeah, where they're like the cage
is giving way. Yeah, so I

1499
01:37:46,279 --> 01:37:49,159
think he just threw them off.
Thinky, he's gonna land on the because

1500
01:37:49,239 --> 01:37:51,359
all wrestlers are taught. The first
thing they're taught is how to take what

1501
01:37:51,399 --> 01:37:56,159
they call a bump hitting landing on
your back, right, So Undertaker thinks

1502
01:37:56,199 --> 01:37:58,880
I could just throw him and he's
gonna hit the padding. Well he didn't.

1503
01:37:58,960 --> 01:38:01,479
He hit the uh the announcers table, and yeah, I mean he

1504
01:38:01,560 --> 01:38:06,920
went all Buffalo Bill's fan on Bill's
Mafia. Jim Ross and Jerry Lawler are

1505
01:38:06,960 --> 01:38:12,960
doing commentary and Jim Ross was part
of the creative process, but he didn't

1506
01:38:12,960 --> 01:38:16,039
know the results of the match.
He and Jerry literally thought that mc foley

1507
01:38:16,119 --> 01:38:19,279
was dead. I'm fascinated that you
know, it's it's twenty five years ago,

1508
01:38:19,279 --> 01:38:24,720
and it's a bit of a piece
of it's five matches that everybody has

1509
01:38:24,760 --> 01:38:30,399
talked about over and over and I
never did because I don't know him was

1510
01:38:30,520 --> 01:38:35,079
in on it because he started.
Nobody knew it was gonna happen but him

1511
01:38:35,239 --> 01:38:39,079
and Yeah, they were in on
it. But they go up on the

1512
01:38:39,159 --> 01:38:42,039
top of it. Yeah, yeah, because when he grabbed him, he

1513
01:38:42,079 --> 01:38:44,560
didn't throw me, grabb him by
the shirt and pushed him a little.

1514
01:38:44,600 --> 01:38:47,760
And then but Mick jumped off of
it like he had a little walk up

1515
01:38:48,039 --> 01:38:51,600
and ran and jumped off as he
grabbed him by the shirt, he walked

1516
01:38:51,680 --> 01:38:56,159
him over and he grabbed like this. How do you know because I watched

1517
01:38:56,199 --> 01:39:00,720
it just earlier he grabbed him by
the shirt. Well, as soon as

1518
01:39:00,720 --> 01:39:03,439
he went like this, make jumped
off. So it looks like both of

1519
01:39:03,479 --> 01:39:06,600
them were in on the throw.
Okay, well he was throwing wrong.

1520
01:39:08,159 --> 01:39:11,680
That is a what excuse bumps on
my back there? They make the hair

1521
01:39:11,760 --> 01:39:15,079
on the next stand up. I
like it. They're fighting on a on

1522
01:39:15,239 --> 01:39:18,840
a steel roof of the sale.
They use it. That's a steel tear

1523
01:39:19,000 --> 01:39:24,560
that they're trying the US look at
this a play through. He's broke through

1524
01:39:25,119 --> 01:39:29,159
a lot of weight. They're breaking
through two three hundred pounders up there,

1525
01:39:30,680 --> 01:39:34,760
they're destroying the hell in the sell
Oh my god, don't get him over

1526
01:39:34,840 --> 01:39:40,720
here where we are. What's gonna
happen here? Hunter t of fighting back.

1527
01:39:41,000 --> 01:39:43,479
He's fighting back to the round the
bottle of folks and I don't want

1528
01:39:43,560 --> 01:39:58,640
it to damn bit, Oh my
god, killing they killed him. But

1529
01:39:58,840 --> 01:40:02,520
he's not getting up. He's wiggling. He's not getting up though. No,

1530
01:40:02,760 --> 01:40:06,079
well no, he did move his
heads into the slip. Yeah,

1531
01:40:06,279 --> 01:40:12,640
so his head's part, but he's
moving his legs in his arms. I

1532
01:40:12,720 --> 01:40:20,399
gotta get out here. Who's that? That's Jr. And Jerry Lawler and

1533
01:40:20,520 --> 01:40:23,960
they're trying to tell Vince, you
gotta come out here now. Even though

1534
01:40:24,000 --> 01:40:26,800
it's the character, he's still the
owner. So now he's got to come

1535
01:40:26,800 --> 01:40:30,239
out and break character and see if
Mick's still alive. He just sixteen feet

1536
01:40:32,840 --> 01:40:38,760
So Terry Funk comes out, All
these referees come out, paramedics come out,

1537
01:40:39,199 --> 01:40:44,560
and Mick convinces them to let him
finish the match. Wow. They

1538
01:40:44,600 --> 01:40:45,760
want to put him on the on
the gun and he's like, no,

1539
01:40:46,039 --> 01:40:49,960
I gotta finish the match. So
but his tooth went through his lip.

1540
01:40:50,399 --> 01:40:54,239
Yeah? So many broken ribs?
How many? Yeah? Yeah, he

1541
01:40:54,319 --> 01:40:58,039
broke several ribs. He sent one
of his bottom teeth through his lip and

1542
01:40:58,159 --> 01:41:03,479
threw his nose. Yeah. He
was like half awake and is bleeding and

1543
01:41:03,600 --> 01:41:06,960
dripping with black, pouring out with
blood. Where did you watch this?

1544
01:41:08,199 --> 01:41:13,279
I think everywhere. He climbs back
up to the top of the cage.

1545
01:41:13,439 --> 01:41:17,199
Undertaker eventually throws him back through the
cage. He lands on the on the

1546
01:41:17,319 --> 01:41:23,079
on the mat right, So now, um, one of the referees has

1547
01:41:23,119 --> 01:41:26,039
to go or no. The ring
doctor runs in and checks on him just

1548
01:41:26,079 --> 01:41:28,279
to make sure he's still okay.
I'm fine, I'm fine. I get

1549
01:41:28,359 --> 01:41:30,319
up. So then Mick decides to
take these tacks. He goes I learned

1550
01:41:30,359 --> 01:41:34,880
this trick in Japan. He takes
these tacks right and just scatters them throughout

1551
01:41:34,960 --> 01:41:38,840
the ring, thinking he's gonna throw
the Undertaker on him, and instead the

1552
01:41:38,960 --> 01:41:42,920
Undertaker ends up throwing him. I
forgot how onto these tacks. After the

1553
01:41:43,039 --> 01:41:45,520
match mix getting like first date,
He's getting the tax pulled out of his

1554
01:41:45,640 --> 01:41:48,079
arm and he looks at the Undertakers. Hey. Then I use those tacks,

1555
01:41:49,000 --> 01:41:51,399
Oh my god, because you're pulling
him out of your arm, like

1556
01:41:51,520 --> 01:41:57,720
he couldn't remember. Then after it
was all over, he went back and

1557
01:41:57,840 --> 01:42:00,640
interfered with the final match of the
night, which was a championship match.

1558
01:42:01,079 --> 01:42:04,720
Wow. And that solidified his status
as a legend in the WWE. That

1559
01:42:04,840 --> 01:42:11,119
match right there changed everyone's perception about
mcfoley forever. Wow. And and and

1560
01:42:11,279 --> 01:42:16,079
showed you that some pieces of this
fictional soap opera are pretty real. Yeah.

1561
01:42:16,319 --> 01:42:18,600
I mean things you can go bad. These are stuntmen. Yeah.

1562
01:42:18,600 --> 01:42:23,159
Like seven months yeah, seven months
later he became the WWE champion. Yeah.

1563
01:42:23,720 --> 01:42:26,800
I remember there was a ladder match
that was so similar with the Hardy

1564
01:42:26,840 --> 01:42:29,800
Boys, and the Hardy boy fell
off the top of the ladder and like

1565
01:42:29,880 --> 01:42:32,720
he wasn't supposed to and it was
really bad. And I just remember being

1566
01:42:32,800 --> 01:42:35,319
like, you know, those are
the moments when I was like, Okay,

1567
01:42:35,399 --> 01:42:39,439
this isn't fun because that stuff's like
scripted, but there's a little bit

1568
01:42:39,479 --> 01:42:43,600
of reality to it. And you've
done reality TV any what was the worst

1569
01:42:43,800 --> 01:42:45,079
I mean, this is horrible,
but what's the worst thing to happen in

1570
01:42:45,199 --> 01:42:48,560
like reality TV? Anything like that? Did you have stuff. Really,

1571
01:42:48,680 --> 01:42:53,199
Oh, all kinds of terrible thing
really, yeah, shootings and all kinds

1572
01:42:53,359 --> 01:42:59,439
watching. Yeah, and in what
kind of reality TV? Though, No,

1573
01:42:59,720 --> 01:43:02,640
no. I for a while I
was doing a lot of programming on

1574
01:43:02,720 --> 01:43:06,560
VH one and hip hop, black
ink, stuff like that, and there's

1575
01:43:08,520 --> 01:43:12,439
Yeah, there's a you know,
there's an environment that comes with that that

1576
01:43:12,640 --> 01:43:16,119
show. There's a lot of falseness
and reality television. I will tell you

1577
01:43:16,239 --> 01:43:19,319
that. Yeah, that show the
first couple of seasons. For anybody who's

1578
01:43:19,359 --> 01:43:23,439
a fan, it was one hundred
percent real. It was literally a producer's

1579
01:43:23,560 --> 01:43:26,720
dream. We were chasing story.
We couldn't get enough. You know,

1580
01:43:26,760 --> 01:43:28,840
a lot of people will say like, oh my god, my life is

1581
01:43:28,880 --> 01:43:32,239
a reality show. Put a cameram
me. These people meant it was a

1582
01:43:32,359 --> 01:43:36,359
reality show, and they had some
you know that, they had some stuff,

1583
01:43:36,479 --> 01:43:41,800
some problems amongst them. Wow.
Yeah. I remember one time I

1584
01:43:41,920 --> 01:43:45,279
had done several seasons of this show, and then the company wanted to do

1585
01:43:45,680 --> 01:43:48,840
sort of a similar show but with
a restaurant. So we went into the

1586
01:43:48,880 --> 01:43:54,279
restaurant the first day and the executive
from the company it was we TV.

1587
01:43:54,479 --> 01:43:57,079
She comes in. She was like, I know, you guys are all

1588
01:43:57,279 --> 01:44:00,000
black, Ink producers, and we
really appreciate your peelv and like we love

1589
01:44:00,039 --> 01:44:03,439
what we're bringing to the project.
But this isn't black Ink. You know,

1590
01:44:03,520 --> 01:44:06,079
we don't miss is we TV.
We don't do violence, like we're

1591
01:44:06,239 --> 01:44:10,920
okay cool. Day one of shooting, we're standing in the restaurant. The

1592
01:44:11,039 --> 01:44:15,399
bartender comes into the building and punches
the hostess right in the face. What

1593
01:44:16,239 --> 01:44:20,079
I swear to god, I don't
know if she was like out because I

1594
01:44:20,119 --> 01:44:23,520
don't know if she heard like,
oh this is the company that does you

1595
01:44:23,600 --> 01:44:27,680
know, oh blacking? Did you
catch it on camera? Oh? Yeah,

1596
01:44:28,119 --> 01:44:30,960
it was the first scene of the
night, like we were you just

1597
01:44:30,119 --> 01:44:34,359
you get oh yeah, and we'll
fight. It's so funny. My friend

1598
01:44:34,399 --> 01:44:38,439
Michael, who was a producer on
that show, broke up the fight and

1599
01:44:38,520 --> 01:44:42,560
at one point he hops over the
bar and he grabs ahold of the hostess

1600
01:44:42,560 --> 01:44:45,279
because they're going at it, and
he's got her in like a lifeguard hole

1601
01:44:45,560 --> 01:44:51,239
on the table and he looks at
the camera and flips his air. It

1602
01:44:51,560 --> 01:44:56,000
was spectacular. It's one of the
top five. Michael. I'll remember when

1603
01:44:56,359 --> 01:44:59,600
Nick Foley got hit with the bat
that had barbar and a half of his

1604
01:44:59,760 --> 01:45:01,680
ear is gone. Now. I
don't remember that too. I don't.

1605
01:45:02,359 --> 01:45:04,800
I didn't watch any of this stuff. And I mean I looked like his

1606
01:45:04,880 --> 01:45:12,000
whole ear was gone, half of
his I was not a big fan.

1607
01:45:12,560 --> 01:45:15,199
Uh. Well, you know what
could be a great reality TV show?

1608
01:45:15,960 --> 01:45:19,840
Uh the Buffalo Bills. You had
all the drama right step. But then

1609
01:45:19,920 --> 01:45:24,479
Danny had some inside scoop what's going
on with Josh Allen and the breakup of

1610
01:45:24,560 --> 01:45:29,479
his girlfriend. And then there's rumors
that somebody else was maybe pregnant with his

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01:45:29,680 --> 01:45:32,960
child and all kinds of stuff.
But Danny got some really got some intel,

1612
01:45:33,600 --> 01:45:36,840
yeah, Danny, Yeah, Yeah. So I hope all the podcasts

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01:45:36,920 --> 01:45:40,640
in the Buffalo area are listening to
this one because we have the story here

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01:45:40,640 --> 01:45:44,439
and I had to confirm by another
another source close to the situation. You

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01:45:44,479 --> 01:45:46,319
gotta do. They gotta get your
sources, right, Alex, sources to

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01:45:46,439 --> 01:45:49,560
many sources? Do you need to
confirm her story? You really only need

1617
01:45:49,680 --> 01:45:53,399
one good one, but you should
have three or four? Really? Yeah?

1618
01:45:53,479 --> 01:45:55,920
Okay, So that's why I believe
in Jesus, because there's four sources

1619
01:45:56,000 --> 01:46:02,000
that you know, the four Gospel. Oh yeah, ghost, that's three.

1620
01:46:02,279 --> 01:46:04,640
Oh you're talking about the gospel.
Yeah, Matthew, Mark, Luca

1621
01:46:04,720 --> 01:46:09,159
John. Two of them weren't even
really yeah. Yeah, they're just like

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01:46:10,079 --> 01:46:16,640
twelve Disciples, the twelve Apostles.
So anyway, um tex text message from

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01:46:16,640 --> 01:46:20,000
a friend of ours, uh,
and we've had I've had this confirmed twice.

1624
01:46:20,640 --> 01:46:24,119
And he says, I work with
a girl here he's from Charlotte,

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01:46:24,520 --> 01:46:27,840
because I worked with a girl here
at Charlotte whose roommate is Sam Donald's girlfriend.

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01:46:27,880 --> 01:46:30,000
Now, Sam Donald's a backup quarterback
right now for the San Francisco forty

1627
01:46:30,079 --> 01:46:34,479
nine ers in with the Panthers.
He was the third second overall pick.

1628
01:46:34,520 --> 01:46:38,119
The Jets took him the same year
as Josh Allen. Right, he was

1629
01:46:38,159 --> 01:46:42,000
taking four spots in front of Josh. Sam and Josh hang out a lot.

1630
01:46:42,439 --> 01:46:46,640
I have good intel on the girlfriend. Josh wanted to break it off

1631
01:46:46,680 --> 01:46:51,319
with her for a while, he
lost interest. Sam couldn't stand her,

1632
01:46:53,199 --> 01:46:56,680
None of his friends could stand her. He just didn't know how to break

1633
01:46:56,720 --> 01:47:00,920
it off. Wow, the rumor
of impregnating another girl is nonsense. Now,

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01:47:00,960 --> 01:47:03,479
I gotta tell you, I got
this confirmed by two different sources.

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01:47:03,680 --> 01:47:09,239
Okay, So now I remember seeing
her a training camp once and she looked

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01:47:09,279 --> 01:47:14,840
like yeah, homespun wyoming pretty right, and then the money hit. Yeah,

1637
01:47:15,000 --> 01:47:16,920
and man, that chick like took
it to a next left. Like

1638
01:47:17,039 --> 01:47:21,119
remember Dumb and Dummer where they opened
up the briefcase by accident and there's millions

1639
01:47:21,159 --> 01:47:25,119
of dollars sitting there and they go
and they buy a Lamborghini in those big

1640
01:47:25,199 --> 01:47:29,399
boots and they're wearing the span Dex. That's what she was. She became

1641
01:47:30,039 --> 01:47:31,399
stories going. You can tell a
lot by a woman. The money sulks

1642
01:47:31,439 --> 01:47:36,039
right into her. Poor he saw
that some great lines. Oh yeah,

1643
01:47:36,159 --> 01:47:40,520
he shoid right for television. He
should have. I always say that too,

1644
01:47:40,720 --> 01:47:44,399
I've said that many times. Well
interesting, Well, by sudden darkens

1645
01:47:44,439 --> 01:47:46,800
your doorway on the way to a
party after a problem. But if you're

1646
01:47:46,960 --> 01:47:50,560
Josh Allen, do you need to
like be scared to bring over your group

1647
01:47:50,600 --> 01:47:55,840
for it? M I don't know. Well, here's the other thing is

1648
01:47:55,920 --> 01:47:59,159
like I don't think when you're Josh
Allen, you think of yourself as Josh

1649
01:47:59,199 --> 01:48:01,800
Allen necessarily right, You don't know
realize how big you are. And Josh

1650
01:48:01,840 --> 01:48:05,239
Allen now is probably the biggest.
He's on the cover of matten Red Carpets,

1651
01:48:05,239 --> 01:48:11,000
He's at every big sporting event.
And then, um so, but

1652
01:48:11,199 --> 01:48:14,039
this is a girl. You knew
what it was, a high school girl.

1653
01:48:14,079 --> 01:48:17,399
Frist college. Yeah, I think
high school. My family loves her,

1654
01:48:17,479 --> 01:48:21,680
everybody loves her. She moved out
here for me. She's put up

1655
01:48:21,680 --> 01:48:26,560
with all this stuff. I've got
all these fans my time, my I

1656
01:48:26,600 --> 01:48:28,640
mean, you know what I'm saying, Like, there is a thing that

1657
01:48:28,880 --> 01:48:31,079
you become guilt and you can look
at Josh Allen and go, he's a

1658
01:48:31,159 --> 01:48:35,279
sweet guy. I mean it's a
competitive motherfucker for sure, but I mean

1659
01:48:35,319 --> 01:48:40,039
he's a sweet Guy's got a little
kelly them and I think that there's there's

1660
01:48:40,159 --> 01:48:44,920
that where you just you know,
yeah, all right, yeah, I'll

1661
01:48:44,960 --> 01:48:48,560
deal with it. It's not that
bad over over and then yeah, just

1662
01:48:49,079 --> 01:48:57,359
ye got your phil Yeah enough you
start the rumor or somebody else started the

1663
01:48:57,399 --> 01:48:59,760
rumor about the pregnant I don't know
if it was. I don't know.

1664
01:49:00,119 --> 01:49:02,000
Girl. Yeah, they're they're like
after they lost. If they had won,

1665
01:49:02,079 --> 01:49:04,520
this wouldn't have been a thing.
But after they lost the Cincinnati,

1666
01:49:04,560 --> 01:49:09,039
of course everyone's gonna this is.
This is not uncommon in Buffalo to start

1667
01:49:09,119 --> 01:49:14,479
a rumor after something bad happens and
they lost this game to Cincinnati, so

1668
01:49:14,600 --> 01:49:16,720
that's when the rumors started. Yeah, there were rumors about Kelly back in

1669
01:49:16,800 --> 01:49:26,880
the nineties, there were rumors about
Dominic. But is it like like the

1670
01:49:27,000 --> 01:49:30,640
rumor would be distracting from the game
of football. Well, that's what they're

1671
01:49:30,680 --> 01:49:33,960
saying, that it was distracting Josh
Yes from playing at his best in a

1672
01:49:34,079 --> 01:49:38,359
game that was crucial. Yeah,
that's pretty much like like that. People

1673
01:49:38,399 --> 01:49:41,920
try to tie the stuff digs with
him his hands out looking at Josh like

1674
01:49:42,000 --> 01:49:44,520
we're trying to win this game.
You're distracted. Blah blah blah. People

1675
01:49:44,600 --> 01:49:47,520
putting connecting the dots. We have
the dots right here on Bill of Fight.

1676
01:49:47,800 --> 01:49:51,039
It's connected, that's right, not
dippin dots, no real dots.

1677
01:49:51,239 --> 01:49:56,199
That's right. But that your podcast
and smoke it. There you go for

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01:49:56,399 --> 01:50:00,199
Alex. Been a pleasure, Alex
catching up hearing about reality TV. For

1679
01:50:00,479 --> 01:50:08,840
Dan Barillo, it's always bringing great
Bill's insights. For Jamison on the Street,

1680
01:50:09,239 --> 01:50:15,279
the man, I'm Bill Moran,
We'll see you tomorrow. I'm a

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TV gonna do the letter to you. Dad s