1 00:00:03,279 --> 00:00:08,199 This is Beer in Front, part of the Odd Pods Media Network. Sometimes 2 00:00:08,199 --> 00:00:11,759 the beer in front of you is the best one yet. I'll talk about 3 00:00:11,759 --> 00:00:17,320 some old school beers that maybe you've forgotten about, some new beers that have 4 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:21,879 the potential to be a classic. I'll also talk to various people around the 5 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:27,519 beer world and get their stories all about beer. That's Beer in Front, 6 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:45,079 and it's coming up now. Welcome to episode one hundred and ninety seven, 7 00:00:45,759 --> 00:00:51,399 the February nineteenth edition of Beer in Front. I'm your host, Dave's Alaturus, 8 00:00:51,799 --> 00:00:57,320 and Beer in Front is a proud Odd Pods Media Network member. I'm 9 00:00:57,320 --> 00:01:00,399 a big fan of kombucha. I drink it, I used to brew it 10 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:04,480 myself, so I'm gonna mix things up on the show this week. I'm 11 00:01:04,519 --> 00:01:10,760 going to talk to Becca Sps. She's the founder of Mortal Kombucha. They're 12 00:01:10,799 --> 00:01:15,760 based out of Colorado. Mortal makes some great taste in kombucha, and I 13 00:01:15,879 --> 00:01:19,680 figure we drink enough beer, so let's talk about something good for our inerts 14 00:01:19,719 --> 00:01:26,719 to offset this. It's also flagship February and I'm going to have a classic 15 00:01:26,799 --> 00:01:33,239 beer review up later in the show. I want to thank you for listening 16 00:01:33,719 --> 00:01:38,159 If you'd like to support the show, check out patreon dot com slash Beer 17 00:01:38,239 --> 00:01:45,159 in Front for more details. Next week I'll talk to Lars from Momentum Brewing 18 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:49,560 out of New York. Momentum is making some great na beers and we'll chat 19 00:01:49,599 --> 00:01:56,680 about how they got started. Next week will be the podcast fourth anniversary. 20 00:01:57,040 --> 00:02:00,920 In two weeks after that will be episode two one hundred. I'm gonna split 21 00:02:00,959 --> 00:02:08,520 the difference and have an anniversary one hundred and ninety ninth episode in two weeks. 22 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:14,800 I've also I've talked about hop Water as before. I'm gonna make my 23 00:02:14,919 --> 00:02:20,319 own from scratch, so check out the YouTube page to see how that's coming 24 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:23,919 along. And I know what you're thinking. The show's called Beer in Front. 25 00:02:24,319 --> 00:02:29,759 You went from dry January, to a kombucha show, to a non 26 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:34,599 alcoholic brewery, and now Hopwater. Trust me, it just seems like everything 27 00:02:34,719 --> 00:02:38,439 happened all at once. Shows more focused on beer will be back in a 28 00:02:38,479 --> 00:02:44,840 few weeks. But I do like talking about other things besides beer, so 29 00:02:45,039 --> 00:02:49,800 shows like this will continue, but regular beer shows will return in a couple 30 00:02:49,800 --> 00:03:02,039 of weeks. This week, I'm not talking about a beer, but another 31 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:08,639 fermented beverage Kombucha is a fermented, sweetened black tea mixture with plenty of good 32 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:14,360 bacteria for your inerds, and let's face it, our inerds need all the 33 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:19,000 help they can get after drinking beer all day. Mortal Kombucha is founded in 34 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:23,759 twenty and seventeen and is based out of Boulder, Colorado. They make a 35 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:29,360 plethora of flavors and they also have hydration packets. Joining the show now is 36 00:03:29,439 --> 00:03:32,719 Becca Sheeps, who is the founder of Mortal Kombucha. Becca, thanks so 37 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:37,479 much for coming on and talking about some bucha. Thank you. I guess 38 00:03:37,599 --> 00:03:40,120 you beat make two products good for drinking too much beer. Yes, they 39 00:03:40,439 --> 00:03:45,039 like a powdered pedialyte, So yeah, hydrate you as luck. You need 40 00:03:45,039 --> 00:03:47,120 that before you start, so you should have some of that. Then anybody 41 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:52,879 should have that in their backpack before they go to a festival or something along 42 00:03:52,919 --> 00:03:57,560 those lines. Yeah, we're beer adjacent for sure. Yeah. How did 43 00:03:57,560 --> 00:04:02,120 you get started with Mortal? My background is the creative director in advertising, 44 00:04:02,479 --> 00:04:09,919 and I've worked on a lot of package good products and I kind of I 45 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:14,520 was having like a Borderer line meltdown and Aloid's doing everything and everybody else wan 46 00:04:14,639 --> 00:04:16,560 it and I was like, man, if I started something, I just 47 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:23,279 would I started making puns, Mortal Kombat, mortal kombucha, and I just 48 00:04:23,319 --> 00:04:28,120 thought like, man, wouldn't it be funny to make an aggressive kombuja Because 49 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:33,360 to me, kombucha was not just this hippie yoga drink. It was it 50 00:04:33,399 --> 00:04:39,000 was adjacent to energy drinks because it was fusy, it was explosive, literal 51 00:04:39,079 --> 00:04:42,800 lady. Yeah, and I drank it and replacement, like you know, 52 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:46,079 I replaced coffee with it at times. So I just thought like, let's 53 00:04:46,079 --> 00:04:49,040 make it. Let's make aggressive kombucha more like an energy drink. And I 54 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:55,199 thought that was a funny name and built a website for it, mopped up 55 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:58,639 a product for it, talked about it like it was real. It was 56 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:02,680 all like fatalities and finish finish him kind of or finish it. I thought 57 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:08,160 people knew it was a joke, but I did have an e commerce part 58 00:05:08,199 --> 00:05:12,439 of my fake website. People bought it, and I got home one day 59 00:05:12,439 --> 00:05:15,040 from work and was like, so I started kombucha company today. I told 60 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:19,720 my husband, and we should figure out how to meet kombucha because I had 61 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:25,319 like seven orders. Yeah, So we went to a brew supply store because 62 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:27,800 I was like, thank you, ferment this stuff, and I think a 63 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:30,160 beer maker should know how to do this. So I went to Vision Quest 64 00:05:30,199 --> 00:05:33,040 and Boulder. They looked at me like I was crazy, but they were 65 00:05:33,079 --> 00:05:35,879 awesome. They told me how to make kombucha and like what to buy. 66 00:05:36,079 --> 00:05:41,319 I think I left there with like a jar and some temperature strips and the 67 00:05:41,319 --> 00:05:43,360 they told me to go across the street to Barnes and Noble and get this 68 00:05:43,399 --> 00:05:46,399 book of how to make kimbucha. The first page said, you're it takes 69 00:05:46,399 --> 00:05:50,120 three weeks. So I emailed my seven orders and I said, your kimucha 70 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:53,720 will ship in three weeks, and you know what could go wrong? What 71 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:58,639 could go wrong? Oh plenty? Yeah. But yeah, so from there 72 00:05:59,079 --> 00:06:02,240 somehow made a real product. Yeah. Now we're a Bello nationwide and grocery 73 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:04,439 stores. Yeah, I know. I used to make it a couple of 74 00:06:04,519 --> 00:06:12,040 years ago and snopped because like the whole apartment smelled like feet, so I 75 00:06:12,079 --> 00:06:15,720 had to stop making it. But yeah, I think my my husband was 76 00:06:15,759 --> 00:06:21,959 definitely happy when our like eight hundred square foot house no longer had glass jars 77 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:27,560 like everywhere and like little stops of paper up like when to switch what we 78 00:06:27,639 --> 00:06:30,360 do not make it like that anymore. It is in a very wonderful commercial 79 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:35,959 facility in Eagle, Colorado. What I like about like the packaging design, 80 00:06:36,399 --> 00:06:42,920 Like some kombucha companies look either very corporate or very like hippie like you mentioned 81 00:06:42,959 --> 00:06:48,920 earlier. Yours looks very fun and something that is eye catching and like, 82 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:53,240 if I'm going to see this, I'm going to grab that as opposed to 83 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:58,160 some sterile, corporate looking kombucha. Yeah, yeah, no, I mean 84 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:00,079 that was the whole point. I was like, if you look at drinks 85 00:07:00,399 --> 00:07:04,079 and that are popular, like let's just look at the Mountain Dews of the 86 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:08,399 world, and the pepsis the liquid death, you know, obviously, Like 87 00:07:08,519 --> 00:07:12,040 it's like the same idea where it was like drinks are just like mini billboards. 88 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:15,199 They're like putting on an outfit and they're like saying like this is who 89 00:07:15,199 --> 00:07:17,439 I am, this is what I want. So it just is very weird 90 00:07:17,439 --> 00:07:20,959 to me. I think more and more than natural food industry is doing that. 91 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:25,639 But you know, in twenty seventeen, it was like you were a 92 00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:30,879 natural brand and you used muted colors and green and brown or you were bad 93 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:35,319 for you and you're a soda and you're doing Mountain Dew Code red or whatever, 94 00:07:35,399 --> 00:07:39,160 which is a delicious drink. And I just thought like, well, 95 00:07:39,199 --> 00:07:42,680 Mountain Dew Code Red over here at least knows what they're doing, because they're 96 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:45,240 still in a lot of this stuff, So let's be more. Let's play 97 00:07:45,279 --> 00:07:48,720 more like them. Do you how long did you homebrew before you went big? 98 00:07:49,879 --> 00:07:54,759 I like a month or so? Okay, oh no, no, 99 00:07:54,759 --> 00:08:00,199 no, I made it in our house illegally because we were selling to stores, 100 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:03,439 so leat that out. Yeah, probably for like half a year. 101 00:08:03,639 --> 00:08:09,759 And then we got into we had to figure out kegs because people wanted kegs, 102 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:13,600 and I remember googling like how do you fill a keg or something, 103 00:08:13,959 --> 00:08:16,759 and went back to Vision Quests asked them a bunch of questions. And then 104 00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:20,800 that's when I realized we're going to need a lot more refrigeration than I have 105 00:08:20,959 --> 00:08:24,399 in my house that I don't want to keep buying like that cheap, five 106 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:30,720 hundred dollars ugly white refristrator from a home depot. So we moved into a 107 00:08:30,759 --> 00:08:35,320 commercial facility halfway through twenty thirventeen, but a very small one. Yeah. 108 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:39,039 I like the flavors that you have here. Just looking at the website, 109 00:08:39,159 --> 00:08:43,519 they look fantastic. Now did you come up with all of the flavor profiles 110 00:08:43,519 --> 00:08:46,360 yourself? Yeah? Again, it was that same idea where it was looking 111 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:52,200 at soda, looking at sour beers. Okay, that was a lot of 112 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:56,840 it, walking the aisles of Walmart and being like, what is trending in 113 00:08:56,960 --> 00:09:00,639 juice? Yeah, because you know, the whole idea was like, this 114 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:05,399 is a drink with a image problem, not and because people were making like, 115 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:11,879 you know, dirt mushroom ashwagonda lion being break ea root and no one 116 00:09:11,879 --> 00:09:15,639 wants that doesn't sound fun and you're gonna ask me to spend five dollars on 117 00:09:15,679 --> 00:09:18,879 that. So if the drink is gonna be you know, somewhere between three 118 00:09:18,919 --> 00:09:20,960 to five dollars, like, let me know what it's gonna taste like, 119 00:09:22,279 --> 00:09:26,960 was my idea. So made them very easy. So there's a margarita flavor, 120 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:31,360 there's a watermelon mint. It's like flavors, they're just a little weird, 121 00:09:31,639 --> 00:09:35,039 but you know what you're gonna get, Okay, So, and what's 122 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:39,279 the price point? Like on the website had shown about four bucks a bottle. 123 00:09:39,759 --> 00:09:43,080 Yeah, so we're in stores anywhere from a brown we all oftener two 124 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:46,360 for six, but anywhere from around three forty nine to for ninety nine ups 125 00:09:46,399 --> 00:09:50,039 like maybe a really specialty store. Okay, when you were coming up with 126 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:54,320 flavors, like I know when I was making it myself, there were some 127 00:09:54,399 --> 00:09:58,200 flavors and I thought, oh, this is going to be good, and 128 00:09:58,240 --> 00:10:01,519 then like you drink it and you we're like, oh no, this sucks. 129 00:10:01,759 --> 00:10:05,600 Were there was there any combinations You're like, oh no this, we 130 00:10:05,639 --> 00:10:09,279 need to dump this. So I think this is like I have a couple 131 00:10:09,279 --> 00:10:13,440 of superpowers, and one of them was I like figured out what tasted good 132 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:16,399 with kombucha, and it really was. I think I'm a size on and 133 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:22,200 sour drinker, and that base were is very similar to kombucha. So it 134 00:10:22,279 --> 00:10:26,960 was like we always needed is there a ginger or a citrus because it just 135 00:10:26,039 --> 00:10:31,679 cuts that yeastyp fermanty kind of taste. So a lot of the flavors that 136 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:33,960 we came up with always were like that. The only like flavor that never 137 00:10:35,039 --> 00:10:39,440 made it commercially was a flavor that was called Nay pomegranate, So I it 138 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:43,039 was a pun that I was like, I think this will be really good. 139 00:10:43,159 --> 00:10:46,519 So it was pomegranate in cayenne flavored kombucha. It actually tasted great, 140 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:50,639 but it was being made when we were homebrewing, right, and we would 141 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:56,720 reduce pomegranate juice in cayenne. And this is also why I am no longer 142 00:10:56,840 --> 00:11:05,320 the brewer. I naypalmed basically like tear gas my apartment multiple times by boiling 143 00:11:05,399 --> 00:11:09,919 the reducing too much down. And literally I'd walk into my house while I 144 00:11:11,039 --> 00:11:15,559 was simmering and it was tear gas and there's just like snot and mucus and 145 00:11:15,679 --> 00:11:18,879 you had to drop to the ground and like army crawl over to the stove 146 00:11:18,039 --> 00:11:22,759 because you could see the layer of smoke. So we weren't responsible enough to 147 00:11:22,759 --> 00:11:24,960 make that labor anymore. Yeah, well that's good, and I hope you 148 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:33,440 got out of your lease okay without yeah security. Yeah, yeah, we 149 00:11:33,519 --> 00:11:37,360 mentioned before you make hydration packets. When did that start? That is brand 150 00:11:37,399 --> 00:11:43,159 new? It it launched two weeks ago, all right. And so basically 151 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:48,360 my background, I'd come from sports and fitness and exercise personally, like I 152 00:11:48,039 --> 00:11:54,200 erased collegiate crew. I was a competitive professional cyclist for a bit, and 153 00:11:54,840 --> 00:12:01,120 I love I just love exercise so it was something I always wanted to do, 154 00:12:01,679 --> 00:12:05,120 and basically as Mortal grew, it's like, okay, we have this 155 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:07,559 kombucha. Not everyone likes kombucha. It's refrigerated product, it's hard to move 156 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:11,639 around. What is shelf stable and what also makes sense for the brand, 157 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:16,320 which our tagline is fight death and for me, that is fighting the death 158 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:20,399 of yourself in a sport, basically so bonking or whatever. So we're gonna 159 00:12:20,399 --> 00:12:24,360 slowly roll out a line of sport nutrition products. And the first one is 160 00:12:24,519 --> 00:12:28,279 a hydration you know, so it's like a Gatoray but it's a powder, 161 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:33,240 but it's really clean ingredients, it's certified safe for sports. And the flavors 162 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:37,799 again are just very understandable. We have a margarita, a berry, and 163 00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:41,000 a mango. Okay, cool, you're in your face, very sweet. 164 00:12:41,360 --> 00:12:43,039 You can dilute them. We have a salt, a very salty version, 165 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:48,159 and a regular electrolyte version and there their eyewall bone them. I'm very obsessed 166 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:52,120 with them at the moment. Now are those available in like the same retail 167 00:12:52,159 --> 00:12:56,600 locations where you could pick up the kombucha or just mail order. Right now, 168 00:12:56,080 --> 00:13:01,279 they are only available online at odeed dot. So we're testing the flavors, 169 00:13:01,360 --> 00:13:05,159 making sure we have everything down before we bring to retail, like big 170 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:09,879 mask retail. They are available for a wholesale for like bike shops and you 171 00:13:09,919 --> 00:13:13,279 know, running stores and kind of smaller retail, but we're not trying to 172 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:18,399 bring them to like a Safeway anytime soon. All right, Yeah, Yeah, 173 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:22,200 I'll definitely have to pick them up because I mentioned those are always in 174 00:13:22,279 --> 00:13:24,879 my bag when I go to like a beer festival, I'm like, all 175 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:28,919 right, let me get this first. Let me get some electrolytes in my 176 00:13:28,039 --> 00:13:31,639 system before I go. Yeah, And we did make some cocktails with them, 177 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:35,440 so I haven't mixed them with beer yet, but I did mix them 178 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:39,080 with a little bit tequila. All right, Yeah, get your buzz, 179 00:13:39,159 --> 00:13:45,360 get your electrolytes at the same time, like a yin yang neutralizes. Yeah, 180 00:13:45,919 --> 00:13:50,799 I saw you came up with an aluminum bottle. How did that come 181 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:54,159 about? So it's like all the same. One of the biggest things was 182 00:13:54,639 --> 00:14:00,879 glass bottles are heavy. They kombucha also, because it's a live drink and 183 00:14:00,919 --> 00:14:03,879 we use real fruit, it ends up having a lot of sediment and goofy 184 00:14:05,039 --> 00:14:09,399 icky stuff that like people are like oh old grouse yea. So I was 185 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:13,159 like, man, how do we not show people that? Because we do 186 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:18,120 filter out everything, but there is still sediment because it is a living drink. 187 00:14:18,519 --> 00:14:20,320 So there was a couple of things we were trying to solve. Also, 188 00:14:20,559 --> 00:14:24,600 it's a drink that people really enjoying the summer and want to take places 189 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:26,200 and do things, especially older you want to go hike. It is not 190 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:31,279 fun hiking with a glass bottle. So there was the idea. There's a 191 00:14:31,279 --> 00:14:33,279 lot of push, hey, go to cans, go to cans, go 192 00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:37,080 to cans, But for me, cans just never made sense for kombucha, 193 00:14:37,759 --> 00:14:41,840 especially the price point. I wanted to keep it at sixteen ounces. I 194 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:46,440 don't feel good selling people something that's twelve bounces for three dollars and fifty cents 195 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:48,200 or more. So I was like, I wanted to be sixteen ounces, 196 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:50,960 but a sixteen ounce can. Now you have to drink that whole thing at 197 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:54,919 once, or you're going to be carrying this like stinky kombucho with you as 198 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:58,600 you want to hike, or it goes flat and or warm, and kombucha 199 00:14:58,639 --> 00:15:03,240 does not taste good flat or warm. So it had to be a bottle 200 00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:09,399 and so finally when Ball came out with those aluminum bottles, I was like, 201 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:11,480 Wow, this is amazing. We need to move it into this bottle, 202 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:16,639 Like this makes so much sense for kombucha. And then it was the 203 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:18,559 logistics of that I don't even want to go into because it was a very 204 00:15:18,759 --> 00:15:22,519 like PTSD year of how to put it in there. But my dreams came 205 00:15:22,559 --> 00:15:24,960 true. We figured out how to get it into a bottle, and I 206 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:30,360 think it's the product looks even better it pops. It makes sense for the 207 00:15:30,919 --> 00:15:35,080 how people consume it. It's better for the environment. Yeah, on like 208 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:39,039 so many levels, from how much it costs to transport it around because it's 209 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:43,200 so much lighter, to how it can recycle and it's recyclable because even glass 210 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:46,639 bottles to have a plastic cap. Now we don't even have a plastic cap. 211 00:15:46,759 --> 00:15:52,639 Did you kiss off the homebrewers because now they can't use your kombucha bottles 212 00:15:52,639 --> 00:15:56,080 when they make their own. It is funny. We have received a few 213 00:15:56,200 --> 00:15:58,840 emails from companies being like, what are you doing with all of your extra 214 00:15:58,840 --> 00:16:03,600 glass bottles we have? Yeah? So I haven't like no, yeah, 215 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:07,159 So I've been like, we don't have any Yeah, but we Yeah, 216 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:11,120 they're just gonna have to use bigger jars or someone else's bottles, but you 217 00:16:11,159 --> 00:16:14,679 can re steal them. So, but they it is a single use aluminum. 218 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:18,240 Okay, Yeah, technically that is a single use aluminum. Mm hmm. 219 00:16:18,639 --> 00:16:19,559 Yeah, I mean they look really good. I can't wait. You 220 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:23,159 know when we were emailing, I'm gonna be in San Diego next week, 221 00:16:23,399 --> 00:16:29,519 so I'll have to pick it up there and throw some blue ice things in 222 00:16:29,559 --> 00:16:32,080 my suitcase, so I could, you know, bring it home with me. 223 00:16:32,399 --> 00:16:36,320 So I'm looking forward to trying the aluminum bottle myself. Yeah. I 224 00:16:36,399 --> 00:16:41,039 actually also think it for some reason, the Saint Labor's tastes better. Okay, 225 00:16:41,639 --> 00:16:45,879 I don't know why. I think the mouth feel on an aluminum bottle. 226 00:16:45,919 --> 00:16:49,679 I like it. I really love it. Yeah, so very excited. 227 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:55,360 Do you distribute all over because I know, like the one spot that 228 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:59,759 I could walk to, I guess they were out of it so they didn't 229 00:16:59,759 --> 00:17:03,399 have it. So, but do you distribute nationwide? Yeah, so we 230 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:07,519 distribute nationwide the aluminum bottles. Right now, we're on exclusive with Sprouts, 231 00:17:07,559 --> 00:17:11,880 so they're in a lot of states, not every state, but then or 232 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:15,720 once our exclusive is up with them. Sometime in the spring. We will 233 00:17:15,759 --> 00:17:19,240 start getting our aluminum bottles to more stores. But we're nationwide, im at 234 00:17:19,559 --> 00:17:22,519 gott major retailers and you know, small co ops and things like that, 235 00:17:22,599 --> 00:17:26,480 all right, cool, like yeah, can you get it at like big 236 00:17:26,519 --> 00:17:30,960 places like Whole Foods. We are only in certain regions and old foods all 237 00:17:30,039 --> 00:17:33,680 right, So not nationwide and hold, but there's on the East Coast, 238 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:40,200 we're in food towns in California and like kind of that West Coast area where 239 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:44,319 in a lot of the retailers and specialty bagy tailers like your Lapsin's and Jimbos 240 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:48,160 and things like that on top of the sprouts. Yeah, and then I 241 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:52,920 think at the Midwest it's basically mostly sprouts. Okay, yeah, Woodman's things 242 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:56,480 like that. All right. You mentioned like you used this for an energy 243 00:17:56,599 --> 00:18:02,039 drink. Now, I was always under the assumption in the kombucha head less 244 00:18:02,079 --> 00:18:07,880 caffeine than even like a cup of coffee. So what's the caffeine level instead 245 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:10,240 of having like a coke or a mountain Well, it's gotta be a lot. 246 00:18:10,319 --> 00:18:12,519 Let's sit a mountain dew. But what's the caffeine levels like in the 247 00:18:12,519 --> 00:18:18,519 sugar levels. So there is tech there is I can't I can't say no 248 00:18:18,599 --> 00:18:22,359 caffeine, but the cat there is not caffeine in it. There's probably as 249 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:26,000 much caffeine as in a decaf coffee, all right, So it's the you 250 00:18:26,039 --> 00:18:30,319 do brew a tea, but then in the fermentation process it's the caffeine or 251 00:18:30,440 --> 00:18:33,480 alphianine I think it is in that spurs it. So you actually like eat 252 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:38,319 the caffeine away as you're fermenting that. I'm probably like gonna get people emailing 253 00:18:38,319 --> 00:18:42,160 you that I'm saying the wrong things, but basically that's what happens. So 254 00:18:42,200 --> 00:18:48,599 you're yeah, good, but yeah, so there's basically no caffeine in it, 255 00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:52,680 but there is other enzymes and probiotics that kind of make you feel energized 256 00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:59,160 from the drink. And then sugar wise, our drinks have pourgrams of added 257 00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:04,000 sugar because you need sugar to be the energy for fermentation and any But then 258 00:19:04,039 --> 00:19:08,920 the drinks range from fourteen to nineteen grams of carbs, the rest coming from 259 00:19:10,680 --> 00:19:14,519 fruit, so there is anywhere from like fifty to seventy calories per sixteen ounce 260 00:19:14,559 --> 00:19:17,960 serving, so we try to keep them low but not no, Yeah, 261 00:19:18,279 --> 00:19:21,799 that makes me because we are making real kombuja. Yeah, when you add 262 00:19:21,839 --> 00:19:25,920 sugar and you're adding natural fruit, there's naturally going to do sugars, but 263 00:19:26,079 --> 00:19:29,519 not all sugars are bad for you. So yeah, so the goly programs 264 00:19:29,519 --> 00:19:33,039 of added sugar all right technically Yeah. Well I love the website. I 265 00:19:33,079 --> 00:19:41,279 love you have like this gene fond workout video like outfit on like one of 266 00:19:41,319 --> 00:19:45,200 the pictures. The website is great, the design is great. Did you 267 00:19:45,279 --> 00:19:51,960 do all of this yourself? I my mind when worked with amazing illustrators. 268 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:55,200 The person who does all our little fruit guys that does our hands grapic fruit 269 00:19:55,279 --> 00:19:57,680 is an amazing illustrator out of the UK called Dan. His names Dan Evans 270 00:19:59,039 --> 00:20:02,039 and he's he Just when I found him, I was like, you are 271 00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:07,319 seeing into my brain. And then I work with another duo, this guy, 272 00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:11,880 Taylor Cruise and Daniel Paisley for the website to kind of get what's in 273 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:18,200 my head out. So they're the they're the engineers and graphic artists and designers 274 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:22,279 behind it all. Cool. Yeah, well, I'm really looking forward to 275 00:20:22,599 --> 00:20:26,240 having this myself. I'll have it. Like after this interview, I'm going 276 00:20:26,279 --> 00:20:30,440 to pick them up next week and then I'll talk about it on the show 277 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:33,920 afterwards. But yeah, please, I'm sorry, I can't send you any 278 00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:37,039 We don't. We don't ship it anywhere because the logials sticks it. Yeah, 279 00:20:37,079 --> 00:20:41,240 and yeah, the leather ship it cold too, so yeah, but 280 00:20:41,319 --> 00:20:44,400 no, I'll definitely pick some up. But you got to check their website 281 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:48,720 out. It's drinkmortal dot com. They have all their products there, a 282 00:20:48,799 --> 00:20:52,960 great merch section as well, so check out drink Mortal. They have the 283 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:56,640 thing where you could find it in your area. So if you're looking, 284 00:20:56,759 --> 00:21:00,000 I hey, where can I pick this up? It's right there on the 285 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:07,000 website. They've got a nice little white almost rolling stones like logo icon when 286 00:21:07,039 --> 00:21:11,400 you're searching, so I like that as well. But Becca, thanks so 287 00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:17,000 much for coming on and talking bucha. I'm looking forward to having it. 288 00:21:17,039 --> 00:21:19,880 I think I think I want to go with the power melon. I don't 289 00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:25,559 know, like I'm going to peaches if they have peach peach go peaches, 290 00:21:25,599 --> 00:21:27,160 be crazy. That's everyone's favorite right now. We can't even keep it in 291 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:30,799 stock, all right. I got to see also with like TSA, I 292 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:34,599 mean, but wait to my suitcase how much I could bring back. But 293 00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:48,160 I'm looking forward to trying Mortal kombucha. Awesome. Thank you. Hey, 294 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:52,000 I'm pants Saran, This is Stevie and I'm Aggie and we are bfytw podcast 295 00:21:52,039 --> 00:21:56,519 all about playing games and having fun. Our games are usually based on British 296 00:21:56,519 --> 00:22:00,279 panel shows and game shows, but we'll play anything that captures our attention an 297 00:22:00,279 --> 00:22:03,920 imagination. Why it's right there in the title. You'll never guess what the 298 00:22:04,039 --> 00:22:08,880 F stands for. I was going to bring back some Mortal kombucha. However, 299 00:22:10,319 --> 00:22:15,519 with my look, that would have not survived the flight home from San 300 00:22:15,599 --> 00:22:18,799 Diego, so I had it in the hotel room there. I didn't bring 301 00:22:18,799 --> 00:22:22,480 a mic, so I couldn't record it, but I picked up the watermelon 302 00:22:22,599 --> 00:22:27,200 mint one and it was really good. I picked it up as sprouts over 303 00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:33,319 there in the the aluminum bottle that we were talking about. So if you 304 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:37,799 like kombucha, I would definitely give Mortal a try. All right, it's 305 00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:45,680 flagship February. I'm gonna have Sierra Nevada's hail Ale. This first came out 306 00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:52,359 in nineteen eighty. I don't think anyone, or probably ninety nine percent of 307 00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:57,039 the world never heard of Cascade Hops until they had the Sierra Nevada pale Ale. 308 00:22:57,480 --> 00:23:03,720 I'm not sure if it's their biggest seller anymore because the hazy little things 309 00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:07,200 are all over the place. But still, the Sierra Nevana pale ale is 310 00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:11,319 a classic. It's been around for forty four years for a reason. It's 311 00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:17,400 that good. And let's crack it open. The Serra Nevanna pal al has 312 00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:23,799 a nice golden color on here, good foam. Just get that nice citrusy 313 00:23:25,039 --> 00:23:30,039 behind aroma here. It's just a perfect pale ale. Now this checks in 314 00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:37,000 at five point six percent alcohol, has thirty eight IBus and with all of 315 00:23:37,039 --> 00:23:41,559 the IPAs out, you think thirty eight IBus are nothing, But back in 316 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:48,799 nineteen eighty thirty eight IBus that blew people away. So it's been a while 317 00:23:48,839 --> 00:23:52,519 since I've had the Serra Nevana paal ale. If you see it, put 318 00:23:52,559 --> 00:23:56,920 it in the cart. It's as great now as it was forty four years 319 00:23:56,960 --> 00:24:00,200 ago. So once again, if you see the cer Aaron Nevada Paleo, 320 00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:15,200 you need to grab it. All right. That's going to wrap things up 321 00:24:15,559 --> 00:24:18,920 for this edition of Beer in Front. I thank you very much for listening. 322 00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:23,799 I want to thank Becca Sheps, who is the founder of Mortal Kombucha 323 00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:29,400 for coming on and talking about their great product. If you'd like to get 324 00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:34,839 a hold of me, please email me Dave atbeerinfront dot com and I'll see 325 00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:40,400 you next week where I'm going to talk to Lars over it Momentum Brewing, 326 00:24:40,799 --> 00:24:45,240 so look for that. Remember sometimes the beer in front of you is the 327 00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:48,519 best one yet. Okay, we'll see you all next week.