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It's cabinets, Danny, it's me, Mike Siroy, and we're gonna do

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this thing now. All right,
this is probably waiting for epic failure,

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itten all over it. I'm not
even gonna set it up because I've reset

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it up multiple times. I'm gonna
quickly reset it up. I'm going to

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reset it to him right when I
get on the phone. But uh,

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it's a guy I worked with thirty
years ago, thirty two years ago,

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if I do my math correctly.
We worked at a golf course together in

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Sarasota, Florida. I remember being
a cool guy. He really helped me

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understand the game of golf. Compressed
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into it. But he was a
NASCAR fan. I was going to the

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Daytona five hundred. I believe that
you're Derek Cope one. He said,

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hey, man, can you bring
me something back? I'm like, sure,

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who's your favorite race car driver?
And he said, I don't know,

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Richard Petty and Dale Earnhardt. It's
a big ask. It's the and

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I'm like, well, I'll see
what I can do. My dad got

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us pit passes, so we were
kind of right in all the good stuff

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at Daytona. I got Richard Petty's
autograph on the back of this pit pass,

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the King, and he was cool. He was signing for everybody.

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Dale Earnhardt crashed in the last lap. He famously could not win the Daytona

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five hundred. He was at one
of the lowest moments of his career and

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he was walking through the pits.
The intimidator mustachioed scary, and I said,

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well, my friend Ron Gilligan said
this was his favorite driver, so

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I went for it. I was
a little kid. He autographed the back,

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so it's a pit pass with both
the King, Richard Petty, and

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Dale Earnhart written on the back of
it. I drive all the way back

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to Sarasota, I go to work, and I hand it over to a

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guy named Ron Gilligan. I don't
regret it. It felt good to do

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something nice for somebody, and I
think from when I remember, he was

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excited to get it. I haven't
really made much of an effort to find

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him, but we yesterday tracked Ron
Gilligan down. He doesn't know what this

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is because we talked to a coworker
of his yesterday. We're gonna cold call

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him right now and tell him this
whole story. There's a chance he blinks

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and says I have no recollection of
that. He may not even agree to

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be on the radio. Yeah,
I'm gonna skew a lot of different ways.

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I'm gonna try to just kind of
sneak that one by him. So

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let her up. We were cold
yesterday that he'd be here, be in

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the office today, cold calling Ron
Gilligan. If you're just to everyone pins

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and needles. Okay, Ron,
Okay, So here was three yesterday.

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It was three or four. Come
on after that setup two days we told

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them it was dangerous. Okay,
it's climb back. Just that right.

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It's a big auction warehouse. Huge. Look at their website, My god,

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massive, try to look at a
Ron Gilligan. Please, this is

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the younger Rock can help you.
Uh, this is the son of the

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original Ron Gilligan. I suppive y
all right. My name is Mike Siroy,

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and I think I was a coworker
of I believe your dad's then about

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thirty years ago in Sarasota. That
was me then, that was me?

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Okay, Ron. My name is
Mike Siroy. I'm hosting a morning show

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in Dallas, Texas. We are
live on the air with me and my

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buddies Kevin and Danny. How are
you doing, my friend, I'm doing

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well. Thank you. You had
two minutes to chat with us, sure,

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so were you? This is all
nice, This is all kind.

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There don't to worry about. Here. Was it Laura Loake Country Club that

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you worked at? Yes, it
was all right. My name is Mike

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Siroy. I was a little blonde, blonde teen and we worked together in

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the cartbarn and golf operations. That
is correct. Do you have any recollection

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of that name or that person.
I can't put a face to it,

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but I remember Mike, and sorry, I can't do better than that.

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After thirty years, that's quite all
right. I think thirty two years if

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I do my math right. And
to credit you, I've always had you

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in my head as the man who
we were on the back of the range

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right next to Monica Seles's house.
That's exactly where, and that was This

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is awesome. That was the day, yes, an of my friend's Danny

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Ron. Alright, you have no
idea how excited we are. We trying

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to track you down for twenty four
hours and we've heard this story for years.

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I've known Mikey for like twenty years, and he's always told this story

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and we rot to get to it. But Kevin and I are like,

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just I mean, it's like we've
got Kareem ab Duel Jabbar on the phone

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or something. It's Ron Gilly.
I remember the day that we were hitting

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on the back of the range and
you were a good golfer and you got

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me to hit the hit down on
the irons and really compress the ball,

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And in my head, at some
level I kind of credit you with getting

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me to properly hit a golf ball. Well, thank you, and you're

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you're exactly right, And that was
a rare day. That place was so

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exclusive and we're barely allowed to hit
golf balls at the golf course. I

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just told them earlier. I actually
got fired from that place. I don't

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even remember an old guy named Aubrey, but I broke Oh yeah, this

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is awesome, yep, I remember
Aubrey. Aubrey was the one he was

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stick to tens and twenties in his
right pocket and just put his ones in

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his left pocket and trying screwy about
all the kids out of their tip money.

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Yeah, we pulled our money and
he would have the five and ten

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dollars pocket back left right. Yep. I remember I was older than you

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guys, and I actually called home
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about what was going on. She
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trouble and get fired. I said, this is a bunch of bs.

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So I called Aubrey out, and
then Aubrey and I didn't get along very

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well after that. At least everybody
got their fair shake. Well, I

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got fired indirectly by Aubrey because I
broke his wooden chair the day that the

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Orlando Magic got the number one pick
overall, meaning they would get Shaquille O'Neill.

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Oh, that's funny, that's funny. Yep. I remember Aubrey.

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And then was Bob, Bob Dombroski
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guy was like in charge of us. Okay, that's right, there was

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a Bob. Was he the GM
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And Aubrey was always the one that
was the church goer and holier than now

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and stealing from us. Yep,
exactly right. I hope I don't offend

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anybody on the air that tracks.
Actually that's all pretty much. Rice,

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all right, well, amazing.
I'm happy to talk to you. Ron.

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I know you're doing well. You're
in Pennsylvania, you got an auction

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house, and we'll be glad to
pub it a little bit later. But

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the main reason I wanted to have
you on is because I brought you a

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gift once. And this is sort
of a seasonal gift because yesterday was the

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Daytona five hundred. Do you have
any idea what direction I'm going with that?

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No? I always went to the
Daytona five hundred. What did you

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bring me? Was it a hat? No? No, I went with

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my dad, who was a boat
racer, and he was sort of off.

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Yeah, it was something. Yeah, it was a signed Was it

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a signed press pass from Dale Earnhardt? Wow? Okay, yes, holy

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crap, Yes, validated once again. What it was exactly was I was

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going to Daytona. We had talked
a little racing, and I asked you

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who your favorite drivers were, and
you said Richard Petty and Dale Earnhardt.

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That's correct, And I said all
right, and I went there and because

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we had a pit pass, I
got Richard Petty to autograph it. Early

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in the day I saw the King, and then after Dale Earnhart had crashed,

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I said, screw it, my
man, Ron Gilligan, that's the

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second driver, and I got both
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autograph the pit pass, and I
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to you. Yeah, I guarantee
I have that somewhere in my collection of

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items. I'm actually going to go
find it now. You mentioned that,

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well, amazing. I would love
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of both sides of that pit pass
to ensure that it didn't all happen in

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my head. But I'm glad you
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now, yep, yep. But
it took me a second. I knew

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you got me something signed. That's
what it was. So Ron, how

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old would you have been about this
time, because Mike you had been twenty

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three, So Mikey you were probably
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Yeah? Is that right? Yeah? Okay, Okay, that's awesome.

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So my question was to Mikey earlier
or yesterday, It's like, I wonder

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if you giving him this, you
know what's prop now it might be I

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don't know worth a few bu if
that was maybe starting the end or created

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the inspiration for you to get into
the business that you're in now. I

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know what started me to get in
the business I got into is Mike and

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I working down there, and I
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was doing, so I came back
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which is the best thing I ever
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golf once a year, believe it
or not. Oh, come on,

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he had a sweet swamy. I
mean, we're very lucky. We're busy

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as we are. See you run. We saw the website. You run

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an you get pubt, I'm pubb
whatever you want. Man. We had

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a big audience here in Dallas.
Oh. I just do everything local.

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But it's great to talk to everybody
in Dallas. I'm glad to help.

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I think I actually got fired because
Aubrey was friends with some assistant pro who

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hated my guts because we used to
get in so much trouble down there,

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and I think he said that I
was stealing golf balls out of Monica Sellus's

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bag. My god, right,
yep, that would be like him to

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do that. Yeah, sucks.
Yeah, Aubry sucks. That's the thing

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is, see when you were and
Ron knows this, when you work at

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a golf course, like you're working
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you know, and they were.
It was a kind of a new course.

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It was beautiful, I remember,
very kind of exclusive. But they

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wouldn't let us out there at all. No, he couldn't do anything.

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Yeah, well damn it, Ron, that's amazing. Honestly, I've had

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your name in my head for a
long time, mainly because you taught me

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how to hit an iron properly,
but also because of that Dale earned heart

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Richard Petty thing that I remember giving
you thirty two years ago. Oh I'm

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glad I could remember all that and
verify all your truthfulness. Thank you with

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Ron's recollection of detail and facts.
I mean, but Mike even told us

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earlier about Aubrey is like, yeah, you had the one dollar pocket and

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the five dollar part pocket, but
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a ten and a twenty dollars pocket. Oh yeah, yeah, he was

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definitely he was definitely knew what he
was doing. Ron. You may not

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know it, but you're a legend
here. In DFW. I mean,

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our listeners are like, we're getting
like instant feedback. I can't believe it.

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The real life Ron Gilgan on the
phone. People were asking for his

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autograph, like, we've been talking
about you for a couple of days now,

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for longer than that, Ron,
because I've had a show on and

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off in Dallas for almost twenty years, and every time Daytona comes around,

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we'll kick around some old stories and
I'll always tell that one about how because

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that's an incredible you know, Dylor
or Aunt Richard Petty's a pretty cool thing

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to have on a pit pass for
sure. And I'm like, I had

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it, and I gave it to
this guy who said he was fans of

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them both. So I bring up
the story a lot, and it's obviously

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a memorable name, Ron Gilligan.
So yesterday I was like, we're gonna

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we're CONRADN. Gilligan and someone texted, Oh my god, you're gonna get

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effing get Ron Gilligan on the phone. Yeah, right, What do you

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think that press pass would actually be
worth? I mean, you probably have

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a good idea of being in this
type of business in the NASCAR world.

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It probably worth good money. I'm
going I'll have to find that thing you

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got. Whenever you're off the air, give me a buzz back. I'll

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get your number, and if I
will find that, I'll text your photo

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of it. I would love to
just see a picture of both sides of

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that thing. Ron, I can
do that. What a day. That's

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really cool And honestly, I feel
very very happy to talk to you.

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Great memories, And honestly, he's
right, there was some if you work

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country clubs, yeah there are some
mean people and some snooty people, but

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I remember and when you're sixteen,
someone who's twenty three is like older and

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yeah, cool, And I just
remember Ron being a really cool dude who

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took good care of the youngsters.
And it's just good to hear from you,

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and really cool to hear that you're
doing well. Man. Man,

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let me to say one more thing. When you talk about working at the

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country club, Mikey, what I've
learned about if I go to a restaurant

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and tip, I learned everything I
learned at that golf course. I learned

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that a guy that worked for himself
and made his own money would hand us

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five dollars as fans. You to
get out of his pocket. And the

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guys that their parents worked and made
the money or their grandparents made the money.

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And these people didn't do anything in
their life. They couldn't get a

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dollar out to give you for taking
the clubs out of the car or cleaning

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their clubs for them. And I've
always made my own money, and I've

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always taken good care of people out
and about tipping wise, I learned that

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from that job. Hey, amen
to that. I try to be a

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very good tip for myself. I
don't know if it's the exact same lesson,

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but maybe it's working in that industry
set us. You need to give

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me a call on college football season. Located about in the shadow at Penn

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State Beaver Stadium, soever Texas is
back up on top of Penn State is

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again. We'll talk some more.
Let me tell you this. I don't

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I wouldn't have told you this back
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with before I met you and to
this day, and I'm great friends with

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Manny Diaz. You're departed, right, Yeah, yeah, he grew up

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in Miami. We we all went
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lost him to Duke yep. I
know, boy, he was made with

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our defense was outstanding this past year. Yeah, he's a stud. Ron

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Gilligan, man, I can't believe
that the Ron Hey, Ron stannhold our

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producer JJ will get your cell phone
number so Mikey can text you. Yeah,

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good god, how cool was that? The hell? That is like

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the best guests we've ever had ours, Like, Ron is awesome. I

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want to drink a beer with to
Rob freaking so he had me by seven

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years Yeah, exactly, your age
So awesome, dude. I'm so happy

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because even when I said it,
he was like, I don't know,

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you bring me a hat or something, but then he stopped me. Wait

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a minute. Yeah no. By
the way, he sounds like he could

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have been on dragnet. Yeah,
dude, what a great fifty five.

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That's the power of a landline.
Dude. Yeah, but that too,

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like if you someone brought up something
from twenty five years ago, thirty thirty

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thirty two years, Well, it's
something that you haven't thought about sis,

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Yeah you know. Yeah, well
and he still has it. Yeah,

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that's to see it. He probably
knows pretty close to where it's at too.

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Of where it is. I remember
how they signed it, like kind

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of diagonally. I just I can
see it, but obviously I haven't held

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it in thirty plus years. How
do you feel right now? I'm really

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stoked. Man. It's good.
I mean it's cool to hear just some

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memories of working there and just the
money thing with Aubrey. I don't know,

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but just somebody that you haven't actually
spoken to in over thirty years.

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And to have that, I mean
it took a second or two, but

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not long. Yeah, to have
all that, the clarity and the memories

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and the recognition come back and being
able to kind of have that conversation,

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that's gotta be a really kind of
a cool feeling, like being reunited with

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a long lost family member to a
certain degree. Yeah, I smearer being

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a cool dude,

