WEBVTT

1
00:00:34.439 --> 00:00:38.880
Well, happy Monday morning here,
Welcome to the marcast. It's cottage season,

2
00:00:39.039 --> 00:00:42.960
cabbage cabin season. As I said
on Twitter, on vacation like mini

3
00:00:43.079 --> 00:00:46.359
CFL fans and not watching you know, I can't watch the games and we're

4
00:00:46.359 --> 00:00:49.679
out at the cottage whatever. We
are here at no days off. We

5
00:00:49.799 --> 00:00:53.759
have Jason Hussey here, Evans on
vacation as well. Have you five issues?

6
00:00:53.880 --> 00:00:55.880
We'll see how that goes. We
have Jason here, Jason, how

7
00:00:55.880 --> 00:00:59.439
are you. I'm doing great?
Rate um a great weekend of football and

8
00:00:59.640 --> 00:01:03.520
the web there's great, so no
complaints for me. We had a discussion

9
00:01:03.640 --> 00:01:06.640
a few weeks ago. Is you
know, is Chad Kelly the most important

10
00:01:06.640 --> 00:01:10.599
player in the CFLs Dustin Crum the
most important player in the CFL right now?

11
00:01:11.680 --> 00:01:14.439
I mean if Chad Kelly didn't exist, I think yes, he would

12
00:01:14.480 --> 00:01:17.760
be for sure. I mean,
just an incredible couple of weeks for Dustin

13
00:01:17.799 --> 00:01:23.280
Crumb. Haven't really seen anything like
it. Who you know how they you

14
00:01:23.319 --> 00:01:26.359
know they have Dustin have the Automa
Red Blacks as a whole. But you

15
00:01:26.439 --> 00:01:29.480
kind of must watch CFL TV right
now. It's pretty insane. The Sunday

16
00:01:29.480 --> 00:01:33.760
of that game really has leuked out
with that. General thoughts just coming into

17
00:01:33.799 --> 00:01:36.959
today, what did you make of
the weekend? Well, I thought that

18
00:01:37.000 --> 00:01:41.480
the weekend on the whole was pretty
disappointing up until the Sunday game, but

19
00:01:41.680 --> 00:01:45.079
last day's game made up for it
and then some I thought this was one

20
00:01:45.120 --> 00:01:48.480
of the most entertaining seat all games
that I've seen in many years. And

21
00:01:49.079 --> 00:01:53.079
just seeing both quarterbacks at the top
of their game, just going back and

22
00:01:53.120 --> 00:01:55.920
forth, trading belows. It was
just such a fun game to watch,

23
00:01:55.920 --> 00:02:00.319
and um really the highlight of the
week because we've had planes right about Mayor

24
00:02:00.359 --> 00:02:04.359
and everything, and I watched early
on he had to pick six and everything

25
00:02:04.400 --> 00:02:07.680
coming off, like you think Mayor
kind of stepped up last night. Yeah,

26
00:02:07.719 --> 00:02:12.919
absolutely. I mean obviously he had
the you know, the three turnovers,

27
00:02:12.960 --> 00:02:15.680
the two interceptions, and then I
think he also had a fumble.

28
00:02:15.759 --> 00:02:20.360
But honestly, I think overall he
played really well. Four hundred and fifty

29
00:02:20.439 --> 00:02:24.159
yards, four touchdown passes, had
his team in position with the lead late

30
00:02:24.199 --> 00:02:28.080
to win the game. The defense
just got one more stop that would have

31
00:02:28.120 --> 00:02:30.120
won the game. So I definitely
don't fault him for the loss at all.

32
00:02:30.159 --> 00:02:34.680
I thought he played his best game
of the season by far so far,

33
00:02:34.719 --> 00:02:37.439
and I think that's a good trend
that we've seen the last couple of

34
00:02:37.439 --> 00:02:42.520
weeks. I thought his best game
of the year was last week before last

35
00:02:42.520 --> 00:02:46.120
week, and then this week was
even better. So it's good to see

36
00:02:46.159 --> 00:02:50.120
that from Mayor and any quarterback in
the CFL. I mean, this really

37
00:02:50.159 --> 00:02:54.360
feels fifty yards passing and four and
TD really feels like this is what was

38
00:02:54.439 --> 00:02:58.199
promised when we kind of got into
the CFL, and that's okay, what's

39
00:02:58.199 --> 00:03:00.560
the deal? Like, is this
crazy football league? And you get Matt

40
00:03:00.599 --> 00:03:05.240
down again strowing for however many hundreds
of yards and you do it feels it

41
00:03:05.280 --> 00:03:07.120
felt a little bit more high octane
that way than maybe we've seen in the

42
00:03:07.199 --> 00:03:12.080
last couple of years. Yeah.
Absolutely, I feel like, you know,

43
00:03:12.280 --> 00:03:14.560
the last couple of years, it
has kind of been like a feeling

44
00:03:14.560 --> 00:03:16.919
out period. I mean, we
had a period about like five to ten

45
00:03:17.000 --> 00:03:21.599
years ago where we had a bunch
of Hall of Fame level quarterbacks and it

46
00:03:21.639 --> 00:03:23.719
was kind of similar to this.
We saw games like this all the time,

47
00:03:23.759 --> 00:03:28.159
and hopefully we're getting back into that
era with a couple of these young

48
00:03:28.240 --> 00:03:31.919
quarterbacks emerging here and hopefully the two
quarterbacks we saw in last night's game are

49
00:03:32.000 --> 00:03:36.879
a part of that. We'll bring
Evan on here again. Evan's fighting WI

50
00:03:36.919 --> 00:03:38.400
Fi issues just at the hotel,
not his own, so we'll see,

51
00:03:38.400 --> 00:03:40.719
we'll see how it holds up.
Evan, How are you doing, sir,

52
00:03:42.439 --> 00:03:45.800
good? Yeah, having been a
network problems, as you've probably already

53
00:03:45.840 --> 00:03:49.000
said. But I've got my personal
hotspot going and that seems to be all

54
00:03:49.080 --> 00:03:52.120
right. So we're going to test
this, see how it turns out.

55
00:03:52.439 --> 00:03:53.360
We do our best year. I
wanted to say, and I was going

56
00:03:53.400 --> 00:03:58.360
to see off the top of comments
last week on the show, because Jason

57
00:03:58.360 --> 00:04:00.199
posts a video of his channel.
Oh, like, what's the deal with

58
00:04:00.400 --> 00:04:04.199
you guys not watching all the games? Like, all the games are watched,

59
00:04:04.280 --> 00:04:06.639
All the games are watched between all
three of us were on vacation.

60
00:04:06.680 --> 00:04:11.080
I've worked the last five days.
I'm on vacation with my family. Evans

61
00:04:11.120 --> 00:04:15.039
on vacation, IM Palm Spring on
this personal WiFi. You know, Jason's

62
00:04:15.080 --> 00:04:16.480
watching the games on demand. Like, I don't want to hear any of

63
00:04:16.480 --> 00:04:19.000
this. We're doing the best weekend, hear what you know? Trying to

64
00:04:19.040 --> 00:04:21.800
bring this coverage on here. Jason, do you have any comments to add

65
00:04:21.800 --> 00:04:25.560
to that, because I know it
was on your channel. No, just

66
00:04:25.639 --> 00:04:29.399
that we do our best to watch
every second of football that we possibly can.

67
00:04:29.519 --> 00:04:31.079
And um, like you said,
we all work jobs, so um

68
00:04:31.360 --> 00:04:34.120
yeah, we just do our best
around here to dave you guys the best

69
00:04:34.160 --> 00:04:38.240
analysis we can. Yeah, the
comment was I'm going to go back to

70
00:04:38.279 --> 00:04:41.519
three damn Nation to watch it.
And then John Hodge was at the wedding

71
00:04:41.600 --> 00:04:45.000
last weekend miss some of the games. Now that works out, evan Dustin

72
00:04:45.079 --> 00:04:49.879
Crumb effect here really in spectacular fashion. What did you make of our guy?

73
00:04:50.600 --> 00:04:54.160
Yeah, I mean Dustin m You
know, I think the Dustin Crumb

74
00:04:54.199 --> 00:04:57.519
era has officially arrived, and um, you know, it's it's been great

75
00:04:57.560 --> 00:05:00.439
to see him really hit his stride. And you never want to speak too

76
00:05:00.480 --> 00:05:02.399
soon with these type of things,
but I really think that, you know,

77
00:05:02.439 --> 00:05:06.199
this could be the beginning of something
special and maybe Ottawa now has the

78
00:05:06.240 --> 00:05:10.279
ability to go on a run that
they didn't have before. And I will

79
00:05:10.319 --> 00:05:12.720
say this, you know, even
if things, you know, maybe are

80
00:05:12.720 --> 00:05:15.959
still a bit rocky here and there, with Crumb's performance, like you know,

81
00:05:15.959 --> 00:05:17.920
he could easily go out next week
and throw three interceptions. I certainly

82
00:05:17.920 --> 00:05:21.240
hope he doesn't do that, but
it's a possibility. I think, you

83
00:05:21.279 --> 00:05:25.560
know, this is the most hope
Ottawa fans have had in a long time.

84
00:05:26.120 --> 00:05:28.600
Right now. There's a lot of
excitement around the Red Blacks, and

85
00:05:28.800 --> 00:05:32.399
using the term excitement and Red Blacks
together has not been used again in a

86
00:05:32.480 --> 00:05:35.680
very long time. And that's not
a shot at the Red Blacks or their

87
00:05:35.680 --> 00:05:39.199
fans, but it's just the truth. I mean, they haven't been winning

88
00:05:39.199 --> 00:05:42.279
many games. There hasn't been much
to write home about there. So to

89
00:05:42.360 --> 00:05:46.279
see Dustin kind of finally lift this
organization up and make them competitive in the

90
00:05:46.279 --> 00:05:49.480
East here early in the season,
it definitely shakes some things up. I

91
00:05:49.480 --> 00:05:51.959
mean, if you look at the
standings right now, you know they're ahead

92
00:05:51.959 --> 00:05:55.879
of Montreal, they're ahead of Hamilton. Now. I know Montreal is on

93
00:05:55.879 --> 00:05:58.040
the by this week they played one
less game, but still, I mean

94
00:05:58.040 --> 00:06:00.240
they're making a lot of progress here. Like it from you know, Ottawa

95
00:06:00.319 --> 00:06:03.439
being kind of at the bottom,
at the bottom with no way you know,

96
00:06:03.519 --> 00:06:05.839
to go up. So now it's
like they're, you know, just

97
00:06:05.920 --> 00:06:12.240
behind Toronto. I really did think
that Crum was kind of this one trick

98
00:06:12.279 --> 00:06:15.000
pony and we had seen the scrambling
and all of that, and we had

99
00:06:15.000 --> 00:06:16.480
talked last week on the show and
how was when they picking that ready but

100
00:06:16.800 --> 00:06:19.279
kind of being able to do it
on the air, you know, with

101
00:06:19.319 --> 00:06:23.399
his feet and on the air like
it feels a little bit more well rounded.

102
00:06:23.399 --> 00:06:25.399
Where I thought that this was they
were going to be able to figure

103
00:06:25.399 --> 00:06:27.399
it out. They're like, Okay, you can only scramble so much,

104
00:06:27.639 --> 00:06:29.759
Jason, I mean, what do
you make now to be able to do

105
00:06:29.879 --> 00:06:31.279
you know, kind of that half
game whatever, and then the two full

106
00:06:31.360 --> 00:06:34.399
games now of him being able to
replicate this. Yeah, So I thought

107
00:06:34.439 --> 00:06:36.720
the same thing as you read.
I thought that, you know, in

108
00:06:36.720 --> 00:06:40.839
the first half of this game,
it was much like we saw against Winnipeg,

109
00:06:40.879 --> 00:06:43.959
where I did most of his damage
with his legs, and obviously he's

110
00:06:44.000 --> 00:06:47.519
a gifted runner, like six foot
four, long strides, very tough guy

111
00:06:47.560 --> 00:06:50.839
to bring down in the pocket.
But I thought in the second half Calgary

112
00:06:50.839 --> 00:06:55.600
really adjusted, slowed down his ability
to run, really put a spy on

113
00:06:55.639 --> 00:06:58.720
them. I think it was Cameron
Judge. They used to kind of shadow

114
00:06:58.800 --> 00:07:01.240
him and he's still beat them with
his arms. So I think that was

115
00:07:01.399 --> 00:07:06.000
very encouraging. Um just being a
true du dual threat quarterback. And you

116
00:07:06.040 --> 00:07:09.720
know, I think that was very
encouraging to see. Yeah, I had

117
00:07:09.720 --> 00:07:13.319
your tweet here are you talking and
biggest story coming out Dustin Crumb. We

118
00:07:13.399 --> 00:07:16.480
also had here Gary Stern watching the
games on weekend. YEA, not a

119
00:07:16.480 --> 00:07:21.600
great game, you know, live
tweeting along with Gary on here. And

120
00:07:21.639 --> 00:07:26.360
then we had this the mild steagel
friends rather Red Blacks the most exciting team

121
00:07:26.360 --> 00:07:29.360
in the CFL. I'll present that
first, Evan and then you Jason.

122
00:07:30.759 --> 00:07:32.959
Um, Yeah, I mean I
think you know, Emory Hunt put out

123
00:07:32.959 --> 00:07:35.800
a tweet and he said, this
is starting to look like that Broncos season

124
00:07:35.839 --> 00:07:40.879
with Tim Tebow, you know,
where it's the team might not be essentially

125
00:07:40.879 --> 00:07:43.560
on paper, one of the better
teams, but they keep finding ways to

126
00:07:43.560 --> 00:07:46.279
win at the very end, and
you know, having these exciting, you

127
00:07:46.279 --> 00:07:49.000
know, back and forth, a
thriller type of games. But really,

128
00:07:49.040 --> 00:07:53.000
I think the reason Ottawa won this
game, you know, just again on

129
00:07:53.079 --> 00:07:55.759
paper, is they had you know, more rushing yards. They were able

130
00:07:55.800 --> 00:07:58.560
to run the ball more effectively.
And we'll get into this, um,

131
00:07:58.720 --> 00:08:01.040
you know, with the other games, but a lot of teams this week

132
00:08:01.160 --> 00:08:05.439
couldn't run the ball It was a
shame. And I had mentioned last week,

133
00:08:05.720 --> 00:08:09.879
you know, the reason Winnipeg lost
to Ottawa in that you know overtime

134
00:08:09.920 --> 00:08:13.560
game where Ottawa came all the way
with back was because Winnipeg you know,

135
00:08:13.639 --> 00:08:16.519
couldn't run the ball, They couldn't
run the clock. It was just really

136
00:08:16.560 --> 00:08:20.680
unfortunate on that part. And I
mean several other teams struggle with that.

137
00:08:20.800 --> 00:08:22.920
This week. You know, Calgary
was a juggernaut on offense, who had

138
00:08:24.000 --> 00:08:26.759
Jake Mayer, you know, throwing
for four hundred and fifty yards you know,

139
00:08:26.800 --> 00:08:28.560
finding Mark and Michelle Treadam's dukes.
Will get into more of those guys

140
00:08:28.639 --> 00:08:31.879
here in a minute. But they
couldn't run the ball either. And Ottawa,

141
00:08:33.000 --> 00:08:35.960
you know, just had such an
effective ground game that they were churning

142
00:08:35.960 --> 00:08:37.399
out, you know, so many
yards on you know, both aspects of

143
00:08:37.399 --> 00:08:39.639
the offense again, on the ground, through the air. You know,

144
00:08:39.720 --> 00:08:43.919
Calgary, even if you're throwing for
four hundred and fifty yards, which is

145
00:08:43.960 --> 00:08:46.799
an insane number by a way,
for a single game, even if it

146
00:08:46.799 --> 00:08:50.519
goes in overtime, I just think
they were no match at the end of

147
00:08:50.519 --> 00:08:52.559
the day with the way Ottawa was
running that ball. Jason, Yeah,

148
00:08:52.720 --> 00:08:58.440
is Altaway the most exciting team right
now. Uh, it's they're close.

149
00:08:58.519 --> 00:09:01.519
They're getting up there obviously. These
these back to back exciting games really puts

150
00:09:01.519 --> 00:09:05.200
them up there. But I gotta
go to Toronto. I think Toronto is

151
00:09:05.240 --> 00:09:09.039
still the story of the seas and
I just love watching what Chad Kelly's doing,

152
00:09:09.080 --> 00:09:11.519
even as a tire Cats fan,
just removing the bias from it.

153
00:09:11.720 --> 00:09:15.480
Just a very exciting player to watch. They look like a fine oiled machine

154
00:09:15.519 --> 00:09:18.320
and I think they're the most exciting
team in the SEAFFL right now. Yeah,

155
00:09:18.320 --> 00:09:22.279
we had a tweet here as well, Dave war though he's a friend

156
00:09:22.360 --> 00:09:24.480
on Twitter here and also today,
I don't know if they're tweets anymore.

157
00:09:24.600 --> 00:09:28.840
We see the X now Twitter rebranded, like oh we gotta pull up this

158
00:09:28.039 --> 00:09:31.840
X whatever. I wish I could
finally tweet. But our man far Han

159
00:09:31.960 --> 00:09:33.840
said earlier this season red Blacks are
a good team. Waging on the quarterback.

160
00:09:35.000 --> 00:09:37.639
I think they found their carterback.
I had been against send the rest

161
00:09:37.639 --> 00:09:39.440
of the year. I mean,
we talked about this with Mozzoli coming back

162
00:09:39.440 --> 00:09:43.480
in that horrific nous and hey,
they're just ready to go, and we

163
00:09:43.519 --> 00:09:46.159
didn't know right when they come back. Is he going to make a difference,

164
00:09:46.519 --> 00:09:48.960
Evan, what do you make of
that? And just through you know,

165
00:09:50.039 --> 00:09:52.279
however, it wasn't been four quarterbacks
now kind of finally figuring out and

166
00:09:52.360 --> 00:09:56.879
maybe we have a landing spot here
with Dustin Crumb. Yeah, definitely.

167
00:09:56.919 --> 00:09:58.919
I mean I think again Crumb and
I had mentioned this before. You know,

168
00:10:00.120 --> 00:10:03.600
has had now over a year to
develop in that system. He signed

169
00:10:03.639 --> 00:10:07.679
with the team last season, so
I think he's finally sort of adjusting and

170
00:10:07.919 --> 00:10:11.000
it looks like he's definitely been prepared
for this opportunity. There's a lot of

171
00:10:11.080 --> 00:10:13.120
quarterbacks that come into this league and
they're not prepared. It takes a long

172
00:10:13.159 --> 00:10:18.840
time to develop the quarterback position,
especially in the CFL. But Dustin Crumb

173
00:10:18.879 --> 00:10:20.759
is kind of proving that wrong.
And you know, he's been one of

174
00:10:20.759 --> 00:10:24.679
the better all around players I think
in the league over the past two weeks.

175
00:10:24.679 --> 00:10:26.039
Again, at first, we kind
of just thought he was more of

176
00:10:26.039 --> 00:10:28.919
a mobile quarterback. You know,
could have been I think, you know,

177
00:10:30.000 --> 00:10:31.679
had this scenario not played out,
I mean, he could have been

178
00:10:31.679 --> 00:10:35.440
one of the better short yardage quarterbacks
in the CFL, just given you know,

179
00:10:35.480 --> 00:10:39.399
his rushing ability. But clearly you
know, he is a true dual

180
00:10:39.399 --> 00:10:41.360
threat, and this game was the
perfect display of that. There's been a

181
00:10:41.360 --> 00:10:45.759
couple even in that Winnipeg Ottawa game
again where Ottawa came all the way back.

182
00:10:46.000 --> 00:10:48.120
You know, Crum did a lot
more with his legs in that game,

183
00:10:48.200 --> 00:10:50.600
I think they did with his arm. But in this one he finally

184
00:10:50.679 --> 00:10:54.440
kind of opened up the offense,
you know, passing and really got the

185
00:10:54.440 --> 00:10:58.080
ball out and was just really efficient
all around. So yeah, I think

186
00:10:58.080 --> 00:11:01.480
you know, right now, Utin
Crumb is definitely sort of the biggest up

187
00:11:01.519 --> 00:11:05.559
and comer in the league. There's
a couple other guys. It really does

188
00:11:05.600 --> 00:11:09.360
go to show though, you know
how I mean, And this is across

189
00:11:09.360 --> 00:11:11.320
all football, you know, any
league, whatever college. You know how

190
00:11:11.399 --> 00:11:16.960
much the quarterback position really does affect
your play because I feel like a lot

191
00:11:16.000 --> 00:11:18.679
of these teams are one quarterback away
or they lost a Crumb. I mean,

192
00:11:18.679 --> 00:11:20.679
look at Saskatchewan. You know,
we'll get him to them later.

193
00:11:20.919 --> 00:11:26.159
Mason Fine had one of the weirdest
games I'd ever seen where he completed over

194
00:11:26.240 --> 00:11:30.120
thirty passes but didn't throw for three
hundred yards stud two turnovers. I mean,

195
00:11:30.200 --> 00:11:33.840
just such a wild kind of event. So it's a very kind of

196
00:11:33.879 --> 00:11:35.320
complex thing. You open it up, you say, well, yeah,

197
00:11:35.440 --> 00:11:39.519
Dustin Crum, you know right now
is the guy that he was their missing

198
00:11:39.519 --> 00:11:43.519
piece for Ottawa. But I feel
like you could say that about so many

199
00:11:43.519 --> 00:11:46.399
other teams in their situations as well. Jason, you know, looking ahead

200
00:11:46.440 --> 00:11:50.320
here next week, Hamilton at Ottawa, Are you scared now? I mean

201
00:11:50.360 --> 00:11:52.759
you might not have been too scared
about this game a couple weeks ago.

202
00:11:54.279 --> 00:11:56.879
Well, if this is Taylor Powell
versus Dustin Krum, it would be interesting

203
00:11:56.879 --> 00:12:01.960
because these are two quarterbacks coming out
of them MAC Conference. I'm not mistaken,

204
00:12:01.039 --> 00:12:05.240
so it would be an interesting thing. I think Taylor Powell actually did

205
00:12:05.320 --> 00:12:07.799
look pretty good this week. We'll
get to that when we talk about the

206
00:12:07.840 --> 00:12:09.720
tie Cats game, but you know, I think that would be a very

207
00:12:09.720 --> 00:12:13.480
interesting matchup. Just reading before I
went on here that Bodie by Mitchell is

208
00:12:13.480 --> 00:12:18.360
back at practice for the Tye Cats
as well, So maybe he's back this

209
00:12:18.399 --> 00:12:20.480
week. You know, we'll see
what happens. But huge game for the

210
00:12:20.519 --> 00:12:24.159
Tyecats. If they win that game, they'll be three and four and jump

211
00:12:24.200 --> 00:12:28.519
the Red Blacks and the standings and
win the season series already over them.

212
00:12:28.679 --> 00:12:33.000
But if they lose, they're really
putting themselves behind the eight ball this first

213
00:12:33.039 --> 00:12:35.120
third of the season. Just Ryan, I just wanted to show this,

214
00:12:35.200 --> 00:12:39.480
Ryan checking in has stamps everyone in
the THT game not clutch not clutching there.

215
00:12:39.480 --> 00:12:43.399
I feel that way about talking about
the Mariners sometimes here and watching the

216
00:12:43.399 --> 00:12:48.360
game yesterday and then the CFL news
here either hey, buy your tickets,

217
00:12:48.360 --> 00:12:50.480
two exciting games, garyster and predicting
to sell. I mean this is you

218
00:12:50.480 --> 00:12:54.320
know who knew this was must watch
all the way here. Let's get into

219
00:12:54.360 --> 00:12:58.720
the actual game here thoughts. I
guess we'll go. Let me pull up

220
00:12:58.720 --> 00:13:01.759
the standings or whatever. Go to
Jason first thoughts on the Godson the game

221
00:13:01.799 --> 00:13:07.399
itself. Yeah, so I thought
the game was just your classic back and

222
00:13:07.480 --> 00:13:09.919
forth. There were a lot of
lead changes in this game. I thought

223
00:13:09.960 --> 00:13:13.039
that, you know, Ottawa jumped
out to a pretty big lead in the

224
00:13:13.039 --> 00:13:16.120
first half. I believe it was
eleven points or so after a couple of

225
00:13:16.159 --> 00:13:20.720
turnovers by Calgary's offense. But Calgary
made several big plays in this one,

226
00:13:20.759 --> 00:13:24.759
and I think that's the most encouraging
thing coming out of this game if your

227
00:13:24.799 --> 00:13:28.279
Calgary is that. The big criticism
was that they couldn't throw the ball deep

228
00:13:28.320 --> 00:13:31.360
down the field. It was a
bunch of slant routes and the running game

229
00:13:31.440 --> 00:13:35.720
that was really the driving force of
that offense. But they hit a lot

230
00:13:35.759 --> 00:13:39.279
of big plays in this one and
it was very encouraging to see. But

231
00:13:39.840 --> 00:13:41.039
as you saw at the end of
the game, I think, you know,

232
00:13:41.080 --> 00:13:46.519
Ottawa just matched them punch for punch. Dustin Crum was up for every

233
00:13:46.639 --> 00:13:48.399
challenge. The Red Blacks just kind
of have a little bit of a feel

234
00:13:48.440 --> 00:13:52.240
about them right now. Rookie head
coach and Bob Dice bring a lot more

235
00:13:52.360 --> 00:13:56.039
energy to that organization. So I
thought this was one of the most exciting

236
00:13:56.080 --> 00:13:58.360
games I've seen to the CFL in
a long time. Like I said a

237
00:13:58.360 --> 00:14:01.879
few minutes ago, and um,
you know, I thought it was a

238
00:14:01.879 --> 00:14:05.039
great game. Yeah, I mean, we had the last weekend and then

239
00:14:05.039 --> 00:14:07.799
we had our big you know,
it's the quarterback what's happening here as CFL

240
00:14:07.879 --> 00:14:11.919
quarterback crisis. Yeah, not all
the games I must watch this weekend,

241
00:14:11.960 --> 00:14:15.320
but certainly this one that kind of
living up. And you know, we've

242
00:14:15.360 --> 00:14:18.519
talked about this in the four When
you have four games a weekend, you're

243
00:14:18.559 --> 00:14:20.799
gonna have some scariously the NFL,
we can put you know, Panthers,

244
00:14:20.919 --> 00:14:24.200
you know, Browns or whatever on
and the more in the inten the am

245
00:14:24.200 --> 00:14:26.759
no one's gonna watch it. Like
Evan, what did you make of this?

246
00:14:26.840 --> 00:14:28.679
Really kind of the standard game of
the weekend. Yeah, I mean,

247
00:14:28.720 --> 00:14:31.720
well, I thought it was nice
that it was the last game of

248
00:14:31.759 --> 00:14:33.399
the weekend because, to be entirely
honest, you know, the three games

249
00:14:33.440 --> 00:14:37.519
before that, we're pretty pretty hit
or miss at times. I think especially

250
00:14:37.559 --> 00:14:41.320
you know, I just felt the
other ones felt so slow, and then

251
00:14:41.559 --> 00:14:45.200
you have this one where both teams
are scoring forty plus points and it's going

252
00:14:45.200 --> 00:14:48.879
in overtime and everything like that.
I've already talked a decent amount about the

253
00:14:48.879 --> 00:14:50.919
Ottawasside and kind of what it means
for them, so I'll focus on Calgary

254
00:14:50.919 --> 00:14:56.200
a bit more here. I was
impressed ultimately with Jake Mayer. I think

255
00:14:56.240 --> 00:15:00.440
again, like Jason said, you
know, Calgary's big playability is been pretty

256
00:15:00.440 --> 00:15:03.279
limited, and to be honest,
a lot of their offense for the entire

257
00:15:03.360 --> 00:15:05.320
year I think has been centering more
around the run game, more or less

258
00:15:05.360 --> 00:15:09.879
outside of a couple you know,
bigger games from Reggie Bagelton and maybe Luther

259
00:15:09.960 --> 00:15:15.440
Hakunavanu last week. But then I
mean, man, the floodgates opened this

260
00:15:15.519 --> 00:15:18.000
time. It was just you know, boom boom boom, like big play

261
00:15:18.039 --> 00:15:22.080
here, big play there, Mark
and Michelle Legacy game. It was my

262
00:15:22.159 --> 00:15:24.679
big takeaway from this one. And
I had mentioned on the show a week

263
00:15:24.759 --> 00:15:28.279
or two ago. You know,
I really thought Mark and Michelle could be

264
00:15:28.320 --> 00:15:30.720
the wide receiver one in this offense, you know, now that he's back.

265
00:15:31.120 --> 00:15:33.200
And that's nothing against Reggie, who
I think, you know, might

266
00:15:33.279 --> 00:15:35.159
be the best receiver on this team, one of the best. You know,

267
00:15:35.159 --> 00:15:37.600
he's right up there with Mark,
and but you know, I think

268
00:15:37.799 --> 00:15:41.840
just Michelle bringing you know, whatever
it is, four years of NFL experience

269
00:15:41.879 --> 00:15:46.120
back to the Stampeters from the last
time he was there. I think that

270
00:15:46.200 --> 00:15:48.799
can't be overlooked. And it really
showed in this game. I mean,

271
00:15:48.799 --> 00:15:52.000
man, he was all over the
place, you know, two big plays,

272
00:15:52.039 --> 00:15:54.240
and I mean it's just really good
to see that from him. And

273
00:15:54.279 --> 00:15:58.840
it's a very to be honest.
I mean, it's quite an uptick in

274
00:15:58.879 --> 00:16:00.759
performance from what it's been and he's
kind of had a slow sort of start

275
00:16:02.200 --> 00:16:04.360
getting worked into the offense there.
But then obviously in this game, he

276
00:16:04.440 --> 00:16:07.000
was the number one receiver and it
wasn't really close. I mean the other

277
00:16:07.039 --> 00:16:11.399
guy, Trey Adams Dukes, you
know, who was the other one hundred

278
00:16:11.480 --> 00:16:14.600
yard receiver in this game. I
had also talked about him previously as someone

279
00:16:14.639 --> 00:16:17.080
who I thought, you know,
could be worked into this offense, like

280
00:16:17.159 --> 00:16:19.360
him and Luther Hakunavan, who I
think are you know, in the large

281
00:16:19.399 --> 00:16:23.080
scale of things, you know,
probably two of the more most underrated receivers

282
00:16:23.080 --> 00:16:26.840
in the entire CFL, not just
on the Stampeter's roster, but you know,

283
00:16:27.080 --> 00:16:30.879
Trey stepped up again big time and
again just just good to see him

284
00:16:32.200 --> 00:16:36.360
doing his thing. Jason anything else
on this one. Yeah, So I

285
00:16:36.360 --> 00:16:38.039
want to talk a little bit of
defense here. So first for Ottawa,

286
00:16:38.120 --> 00:16:41.039
I thought that one of the big
keys for them is that they slowed down

287
00:16:41.080 --> 00:16:45.679
Calgaries running game, which is something
that Calgary always likes to utilize. A

288
00:16:45.720 --> 00:16:48.039
couple of guys I want to shout
out here, Brandon Dandridge, defensive back,

289
00:16:48.120 --> 00:16:51.799
had to pick six in this one. Back to back games with a

290
00:16:51.840 --> 00:16:55.200
pick six for him, also had
a punt return touchdown earlier this season,

291
00:16:55.279 --> 00:16:59.240
so he's accounted for a lot of
that team scoring so far this season and

292
00:16:59.399 --> 00:17:02.159
is on pace to be a CFL
All Star by the end of the year.

293
00:17:02.399 --> 00:17:07.160
Lorenzo Malden who was carted off midway
through last week during practice. It

294
00:17:07.200 --> 00:17:08.960
didn't look good, but then he
ended up playing in the game and he

295
00:17:10.039 --> 00:17:12.519
had a big bumble recovery in this
one. So really impressed for him.

296
00:17:12.720 --> 00:17:15.400
And then for Calgary, I think, you know, a couple of weeks

297
00:17:15.440 --> 00:17:18.799
ago, I would have said it
was more concerned about Calgary's offense, but

298
00:17:19.119 --> 00:17:23.119
now I'm more concerned about their defense. This defense cannot close games out to

299
00:17:23.160 --> 00:17:26.559
save their lives. They tried to
give away the game last week against the

300
00:17:26.640 --> 00:17:32.000
Scatchwan obviously that big hail mary by
Mason Fine, and then they were able

301
00:17:32.039 --> 00:17:33.960
to get it back in the last
minute. But they had a couple of

302
00:17:34.000 --> 00:17:37.640
opportunities, like I mentioned before,
that they had a lead with a chance

303
00:17:37.640 --> 00:17:41.200
to make a stop late in the
game and they just could not do it.

304
00:17:41.200 --> 00:17:42.880
And Dave Dickinson, I think,
had said something like that in his

305
00:17:44.119 --> 00:17:49.079
postgame press conference that he is sick
of this kind of lack of killer instinct

306
00:17:49.079 --> 00:17:52.200
with this team, and I think
that, you know, it's really true

307
00:17:52.200 --> 00:17:56.079
with this team. They're just not
closing games effectively. And that's just kind

308
00:17:56.079 --> 00:18:00.720
of a weird thing to see from
the stamp Peters because of all the success

309
00:18:00.759 --> 00:18:03.839
they've had over the past decade or
so. Yeah, changing times here.

310
00:18:04.079 --> 00:18:07.680
I had a couple of this last
tweets before we get out of this game.

311
00:18:07.759 --> 00:18:10.680
You know, he used to go
renee, you know, clutch there

312
00:18:10.759 --> 00:18:14.480
getting them in two thousand career points
obviously not enough to win the overtime of

313
00:18:14.559 --> 00:18:17.200
getting them in there, you know, I to me, I might,

314
00:18:17.240 --> 00:18:18.079
there's no doubt, Like you know, I'm like, oh, this game's

315
00:18:18.119 --> 00:18:21.440
going to overtime. I had it
pulled up here. I just wanted to

316
00:18:21.440 --> 00:18:25.240
shout out Tim Bains for too long, unwatchable other read Bucks can't miss after

317
00:18:25.279 --> 00:18:29.200
winning another overtime thriller beating auDA,
and I thought this was funny. Dave

318
00:18:29.319 --> 00:18:33.839
Naylor tweeted from Dustin Crumb's NFL draft
bio he lacks the creativity and power to

319
00:18:33.880 --> 00:18:36.920
make defender's miss or break tackles.
Someone tell that to the winn to take

320
00:18:36.960 --> 00:18:40.200
Blue Bombers. Really enjoy that,
guys. Anything else on this one will

321
00:18:40.240 --> 00:18:42.079
go to that, you know,
America's CFL team here, But anything else

322
00:18:42.079 --> 00:18:48.200
on that game. No, all
right, let's go here. I we're

323
00:18:48.200 --> 00:18:49.960
pulling into the cabin when this game
was going on, and then I got

324
00:18:49.960 --> 00:18:55.000
it pulled up. Vernon already going
down before I even had the game up.

325
00:18:55.880 --> 00:19:00.359
The notes today I think was he's
fine. They might rest him this

326
00:19:00.400 --> 00:19:03.720
week against the Elks. You know, I'm glad we didn't ship Dan Evans

327
00:19:03.720 --> 00:19:07.799
here kind of when there was a
big quarterback, you know, people trying

328
00:19:07.799 --> 00:19:10.559
to hey, trying to you know, find different whatever is and bringing the

329
00:19:10.680 --> 00:19:12.440
dest and crumbs of the world.
Thoughts here, I guess we'll go to

330
00:19:12.440 --> 00:19:17.880
Evan first. Thoughts on Saskatchewan BC. Yeah, well, definitely a slower

331
00:19:17.920 --> 00:19:19.799
game. I mean, nineteen to
nine. The score kind of indicates that.

332
00:19:21.160 --> 00:19:23.279
Unfortunately. You know, there's been
several CFL games, really, I

333
00:19:23.319 --> 00:19:27.079
think over the past I don't know, maybe two seasons that have gone this

334
00:19:27.119 --> 00:19:30.160
way. But but now you're finally
seeing the league as a whole kind of

335
00:19:30.160 --> 00:19:33.200
pick up on offense. Um,
I think you know, these the games

336
00:19:33.319 --> 00:19:37.759
last week obviously, and then the
big shootout between Ottawa and Calgary. CFL

337
00:19:37.799 --> 00:19:40.160
is definitely getting back in their groove
and I think I put a tweet out

338
00:19:40.160 --> 00:19:42.680
about that. But Anyway, going
back to this game, specifically, the

339
00:19:42.759 --> 00:19:47.119
fact that BC was able to pull
away, you know, despite losing Vernon

340
00:19:47.160 --> 00:19:49.400
early, I think is a big
testament to their defense. They had a

341
00:19:49.480 --> 00:19:52.720
lot of guys in that unit that
really stepped up and m it kind of

342
00:19:52.720 --> 00:19:56.920
made it to where they you know, didn't have to worry about things.

343
00:19:56.279 --> 00:20:00.200
Um. But then yeah, on
the Saskatchewan side, just a really weird

344
00:20:00.200 --> 00:20:03.359
game on their end. I mean
I talked earlier about Mason Fine just kind

345
00:20:03.359 --> 00:20:07.000
of felt like, you know,
short pass here, short passed that.

346
00:20:07.079 --> 00:20:10.519
I mean, he completed thirty one
passes in this game, which I find

347
00:20:10.559 --> 00:20:12.359
fascinating, and I mean he did
have a you know, a big play

348
00:20:12.440 --> 00:20:17.319
long of forty four yards whatever,
but he you know, on the entire

349
00:20:17.400 --> 00:20:21.480
game slate, he only finished with
two hundred and seventy eight yards and you

350
00:20:21.519 --> 00:20:23.000
know, through two picks that it
was just so weird. Like typically,

351
00:20:23.000 --> 00:20:27.160
if a quarterback completes thirty one passes
in a game, I mean they're throwing

352
00:20:27.319 --> 00:20:30.759
for you know, four hundred yards
and three touchdowns, it's like a career

353
00:20:30.839 --> 00:20:33.839
evening. But this was kind of
the opposite of that. I felt like,

354
00:20:33.920 --> 00:20:38.240
and again, the run game I
had talked about how some CFL teams

355
00:20:38.279 --> 00:20:42.279
you know, struggle with that.
This week, Saskatchewans was atrocious, unfortunately

356
00:20:42.319 --> 00:20:47.119
abysmal that there was no other word
for it. It was just really really

357
00:20:47.160 --> 00:20:49.960
bad. And every time, you
know, I look at a team,

358
00:20:51.000 --> 00:20:53.680
you know, where they throw forty
times a game, but they are not

359
00:20:53.759 --> 00:20:56.480
able to run the ball effectively,
you know that. Typically, I'm like,

360
00:20:56.480 --> 00:20:59.359
you don't even have to show me
the score. I know that team

361
00:20:59.400 --> 00:21:02.759
lost, and in this case,
you know, Saskatchewan did that. Now,

362
00:21:02.960 --> 00:21:04.759
they did have a couple of bright
spots. I think it was Tevin

363
00:21:04.839 --> 00:21:08.880
Jones and Sean Baine junior were kind
of a nice receiving duo, and both

364
00:21:08.880 --> 00:21:12.200
of those guys I think, you
know, have kind of stepped up this

365
00:21:12.240 --> 00:21:17.640
season, maybe more so than I
expected. But yeah, ultimately I think,

366
00:21:17.680 --> 00:21:19.640
you know, this was just a
testament really to BC's defense more than

367
00:21:19.680 --> 00:21:25.079
anything. To close this one out. Yeah, I had the tweet here,

368
00:21:25.160 --> 00:21:29.000
Hodgs, and I think Dave Campbell
put out something to talking about like,

369
00:21:29.039 --> 00:21:32.720
hey, I think Saskatchewan still Edmonton's
playbook and you know these short slam

370
00:21:32.799 --> 00:21:34.960
passes whatever, Yeah, really weird
offense. Jason, when did you make

371
00:21:34.960 --> 00:21:40.960
it this one. Ultimately, Mason
Fine was fine in this one. I

372
00:21:41.000 --> 00:21:45.079
thought that he was okay, but
ultimately the number that tells the whole story

373
00:21:45.160 --> 00:21:48.680
is zero touchdowns, and I thought
it was a big missed opportunity for Saskatchwe.

374
00:21:48.759 --> 00:21:52.720
This could have been a massive win
and it was a winnable game for

375
00:21:52.759 --> 00:21:56.640
the most part for them. Their
defense played really well, really dominated the

376
00:21:56.680 --> 00:22:00.440
BC offensive line throughout this game,
and I thought that if Saskatchewan just got

377
00:22:00.519 --> 00:22:04.160
one quality drive from their offense where
they punched in the end zone, they

378
00:22:04.240 --> 00:22:07.680
definitely could have won this game.
So I thought this was a very disappointing

379
00:22:07.720 --> 00:22:14.440
game from their perspective on the offensive
side Versaskatchwe. I thought that BC's defense

380
00:22:14.519 --> 00:22:18.599
becoming one of the stories of the
CFL season. Just you know, I

381
00:22:18.640 --> 00:22:22.480
don't know how many touchdowns they've allowed
now, but I mean they are allowed

382
00:22:22.559 --> 00:22:26.200
like just very few touchdowns the whole
season, so I think that is a

383
00:22:26.240 --> 00:22:30.200
big story for them. I think
Matthew Betts got a late sack in this

384
00:22:30.240 --> 00:22:33.240
one tenth sack and he's all the
way, you know, on his way

385
00:22:33.279 --> 00:22:38.039
towards breaking the Canadian sack record,
which is a belief seventeen by Brent Johnson

386
00:22:38.279 --> 00:22:41.160
with the BC Lions, I do
believe as well, So I think that

387
00:22:41.319 --> 00:22:45.440
is really impressive. I think that
Gary Peters was a guy that I highlighted

388
00:22:45.480 --> 00:22:48.680
in the preview this week. He
ended up with the interception late in this

389
00:22:48.759 --> 00:22:52.759
game that really kind of helped close
it out for the Lions. So I

390
00:22:52.799 --> 00:22:56.599
thought that their defense played really well
and were the driving force for this team

391
00:22:56.599 --> 00:22:59.200
to victory. And I thought that, you know, Dane Evans when I

392
00:22:59.240 --> 00:23:03.319
originally thought that Vernon Adams injury was
much more serious. I mean, we

393
00:23:03.400 --> 00:23:06.480
still don't know one hundred percent for
sure, but if it was much more

394
00:23:06.519 --> 00:23:11.759
serious, my big concern with Dan
Evans coming into this offense was that he's

395
00:23:11.839 --> 00:23:15.119
not the most mobile quarterback in to
Vernon. He's not a guy that's gonna,

396
00:23:15.160 --> 00:23:18.839
you know, extend plays. So
I think that was a big concern

397
00:23:18.920 --> 00:23:23.640
because of how BC's offensive line has
looked like it's regressed over the past couple

398
00:23:23.680 --> 00:23:26.920
of weeks here. But I think
it's very good news to hear that Vernon

399
00:23:27.000 --> 00:23:32.720
may be back sooner more rather than
later. So um, at the end

400
00:23:32.720 --> 00:23:34.720
of the day, I think that
m yeah, defense was the big story

401
00:23:34.720 --> 00:23:37.759
for the Lions in this one,
and a missed opportunity for Saskatch one.

402
00:23:38.519 --> 00:23:41.759
Yeah, they Vernon. I mean
that was the thing, Like you're coming

403
00:23:41.759 --> 00:23:45.720
into the season. I think we
all hide down to Vernon, you know,

404
00:23:45.440 --> 00:23:48.079
wanting him to succeed, but not
being sure. And then here he's

405
00:23:48.119 --> 00:23:52.319
really been on fire except for though, you know, the six pick Argo

406
00:23:52.359 --> 00:23:56.519
game and now him going down.
You know, we're we're fans if dan

407
00:23:56.599 --> 00:24:00.359
Evan did you feel like he is
he is suitable replaced, but was it

408
00:24:00.440 --> 00:24:03.480
worth kind of having him stash here
in the back pocket to pull out?

409
00:24:03.440 --> 00:24:08.000
Absolutely? Oh you want to go, Jason, It's all good, you

410
00:24:08.000 --> 00:24:11.759
can go if you want then,
all right, Uh yeah, no,

411
00:24:11.880 --> 00:24:15.079
I mean look, I think Dan
Evans was definitely worth the weight here.

412
00:24:15.359 --> 00:24:19.119
Um. I kind of had in
my notes. It wasn't a spectacular performance.

413
00:24:19.440 --> 00:24:22.440
Um, but I'd take him over
Mason fine, um just because you

414
00:24:22.480 --> 00:24:26.319
know he had the touchdown pass was
a bit more efficient. I'm still in

415
00:24:26.359 --> 00:24:30.000
over two hundred yards, So like
he was definitely ready for the opportunity.

416
00:24:30.000 --> 00:24:32.720
And I had said, you know
previously, um, you know this,

417
00:24:32.759 --> 00:24:36.039
would you know dan Evans would be
a great trade asset given all these um

418
00:24:36.400 --> 00:24:40.039
quarterback injuries, you know they wouldn't
be likely to trade him in a division,

419
00:24:40.440 --> 00:24:42.799
um, so you know, him
going to Saskatchewan or something like that

420
00:24:42.839 --> 00:24:47.119
wouldn't be very viable. But ultimately, you know, I thought he was

421
00:24:47.119 --> 00:24:49.200
a good trade piece. But now, I mean again you're looking at you

422
00:24:49.200 --> 00:24:52.160
know, we don't know when Vernon's
going to be back. I mean just

423
00:24:52.160 --> 00:24:55.400
the state of the CFL in general
right now. You know, to have

424
00:24:55.680 --> 00:24:57.880
two starting quarterbacks that are or at
least capable of starting, you know,

425
00:24:57.960 --> 00:25:03.960
multiple games under Auster, that's like
unheard of practically. I mean, bc'son

426
00:25:03.000 --> 00:25:06.519
a spot here where they really have
that luxury, and it kind of reminds

427
00:25:06.559 --> 00:25:10.279
me of you know, when Hamilton
had Dan Evans and Jeremiah Massoli and there

428
00:25:10.359 --> 00:25:14.279
was this kind of you know fight
I think sometimes between some of the fans

429
00:25:14.319 --> 00:25:15.319
and you know, back when I
covered the team, it was always you

430
00:25:15.319 --> 00:25:18.759
know, who's the better quarterback?
Is it Dane or is it Jeremiah?

431
00:25:18.759 --> 00:25:22.279
You know who do you play?
And now in BC, it's like,

432
00:25:22.319 --> 00:25:23.519
I mean, I still think Vernon's
a better option, and I don't really

433
00:25:23.519 --> 00:25:26.920
think BC fans arguing about that,
but I mean, hey, you know,

434
00:25:27.279 --> 00:25:30.039
Dan could come in and you know, play really well and you know

435
00:25:30.079 --> 00:25:33.480
who knows that, then maybe you're
starting the question, you know, whether

436
00:25:33.559 --> 00:25:37.200
or not Vernon you know, starts
to getting out look. I mean,

437
00:25:37.200 --> 00:25:40.759
that's all hypothetical. I do think
Vernon will come back and start the rest

438
00:25:40.759 --> 00:25:44.279
of the season of barring any setbacks, because he has been really good and

439
00:25:44.319 --> 00:25:47.799
I think he's exceeded all of our
expectations this year. But ultimately, yeah,

440
00:25:47.839 --> 00:25:49.759
I mean Dan Evans, I think
is what was great to keep around

441
00:25:49.799 --> 00:25:55.279
and it was worth it, And
it still is the same question e Jason

442
00:25:55.359 --> 00:25:57.240
that it was Dan worth it.
Yeah, one hundred percent. I think

443
00:25:57.240 --> 00:26:00.319
he's definitely not a perfect quarterback.
He saw that last year in Hamilton.

444
00:26:00.440 --> 00:26:03.960
But I think still at the end
of the day, he is still one

445
00:26:03.000 --> 00:26:06.920
of the better quarterbacks in the league. I still think he's in the top

446
00:26:07.000 --> 00:26:10.720
twelve or so quarterbacks in the league. I think he's probably the best backup

447
00:26:10.720 --> 00:26:12.720
in the league right now, at
least the most experienced one. So I

448
00:26:12.759 --> 00:26:15.160
think at the end of the day, I mean, you know, he's

449
00:26:15.200 --> 00:26:18.599
going to have some issues. He
may turn the ball over more than Vernon

450
00:26:18.640 --> 00:26:22.359
well, I mean I mentioned the
play extension abilities. More of a pocket

451
00:26:22.359 --> 00:26:26.039
passing guy, but I think at
the end of the day, he's definitely

452
00:26:26.039 --> 00:26:30.319
a suitable backup that BC can still
win with because their defense is that good.

453
00:26:30.400 --> 00:26:33.839
We had the thing here Jamie and
I friend of the show, I

454
00:26:33.880 --> 00:26:37.240
wanted to talk that we had the
roughing the passer that was called back right

455
00:26:37.680 --> 00:26:41.200
was holding or whatever, and then
this about like a court do you want

456
00:26:41.240 --> 00:26:45.599
to see a quarterback change, like
Jason if where would Saskatchewan go here?

457
00:26:45.640 --> 00:26:48.680
Like, I don't I don't know
if if Fine kind of was the backup

458
00:26:48.680 --> 00:26:49.839
guy, Like, what would they
do if Fine is not the answer?

459
00:26:51.680 --> 00:26:53.880
Well, I know that they have
Jake dla Gala on the roster. He

460
00:26:53.960 --> 00:26:56.519
used to be a backup. I
think for one year he dressed for the

461
00:26:56.759 --> 00:27:00.279
Cincinnati Bengals. Didn't get any playing
time, but I mean we saw him

462
00:27:00.319 --> 00:27:03.920
start one game last year for them. Didn't look too promising. So I

463
00:27:03.920 --> 00:27:07.960
think they're just better off just rolling
with Fine for a few more weeks,

464
00:27:07.000 --> 00:27:10.640
see if he gets a groove going, and then um, you know,

465
00:27:10.720 --> 00:27:14.000
maybe if they're still around in a
few weeks, if they're like still in

466
00:27:14.039 --> 00:27:17.160
the playoff mix, I think maybe
they look around the league for maybe a

467
00:27:17.200 --> 00:27:19.640
trade option or a free agent pickup. But at the end of the day,

468
00:27:19.640 --> 00:27:22.319
I think I would just stick with
fine and and see if it gets

469
00:27:22.359 --> 00:27:26.599
better. Yeah. No, I
guess it was a revenue passage. This

470
00:27:26.640 --> 00:27:29.839
was before I sat down to watch
God Forbid. Here a couple of drives,

471
00:27:29.880 --> 00:27:32.799
but they refue the past ride.
It was called back for the safety

472
00:27:32.799 --> 00:27:36.960
Evan, Did you catch that?
Um? I did not. Actually,

473
00:27:37.000 --> 00:27:40.640
that's interesting. Yeah, I only
watched a part of this game. I

474
00:27:40.680 --> 00:27:42.799
mean, we're gonna get into the
whole You know, how many games did

475
00:27:42.839 --> 00:27:45.319
you watch? Question here? Because
that always seems to come up, and

476
00:27:45.480 --> 00:27:48.599
you know, apparently I know nothing
about the CFL because I don't spend you

477
00:27:48.640 --> 00:27:52.880
know, sixteen hours or whatever every
week watching every game. But no,

478
00:27:53.160 --> 00:27:56.359
no, I did not. I
did not see that. It is the

479
00:27:56.359 --> 00:27:59.680
bottom line I watched. I mean, if you really want to hear what

480
00:27:59.680 --> 00:28:03.920
games I watched, I watched half
of the Calgary Ottawa game. I watched

481
00:28:03.000 --> 00:28:07.240
like half a quarter of this game, and then I watched most of the

482
00:28:07.279 --> 00:28:12.000
Hamilton Toronto game, and then most
of the like ronestly, probably all four

483
00:28:12.079 --> 00:28:15.559
quarters of the Edmonton Winnipeg game,
because I was actually intrigued by that one.

484
00:28:15.559 --> 00:28:18.200
Believe it or not, We're gonna
get canceled, Jason tied to me

485
00:28:18.200 --> 00:28:22.519
about the refer in the pastor call
here. Yeah, So, I mean

486
00:28:22.559 --> 00:28:26.319
this was a huge turning point early
in this game. It looked like,

487
00:28:26.319 --> 00:28:32.200
like I can't recall the place specifically. I think it wasn't like the most

488
00:28:32.240 --> 00:28:36.400
dirty hit that I've ever seen,
But I think that you know, at

489
00:28:36.440 --> 00:28:38.839
the end of the day, they're
gonna call any hit that's up high on

490
00:28:38.880 --> 00:28:42.119
the quarterback. Really, that's just
the way football is going, even if

491
00:28:42.160 --> 00:28:47.279
it's unfair to defenses. I think
that's just the way. You know that

492
00:28:47.680 --> 00:28:51.960
the leagues are protecting their quarterbacks nowadays. But yeah, it was a huge

493
00:28:51.960 --> 00:28:55.720
turning point early in this game.
I mean would have obviously given Saskatch one

494
00:28:55.759 --> 00:28:59.240
two points and then given them the
ball back as well. So I mean

495
00:28:59.599 --> 00:29:02.519
it could have been a big swing
in this football game, and it was

496
00:29:02.559 --> 00:29:07.599
tough for Saskatchewan. Speaking of you
know who probably watched all of the games

497
00:29:07.599 --> 00:29:08.799
here, I had a couple of
tweets and then cef I put it out

498
00:29:08.799 --> 00:29:11.839
together. Yo, Yeah, Chado, did you know a friend of the

499
00:29:11.839 --> 00:29:15.200
show, Chad was on I believe
episode two of the Mark Ass If you

500
00:29:15.240 --> 00:29:18.640
want to go back talking about it. We actually broke the news to him

501
00:29:18.640 --> 00:29:22.279
that the CFL season was canceled.
So if you want to go back,

502
00:29:22.680 --> 00:29:26.200
but go back into the record books
for the mark ass. But Chad watching

503
00:29:26.200 --> 00:29:29.119
the show here talking cham White was
clutched and I was in montral He's still

504
00:29:29.119 --> 00:29:32.200
clutched later. If that's the same, Sean, And then CFL without this

505
00:29:32.240 --> 00:29:37.119
thing, POV, you're watching the
games last night with Chado Evan anything on

506
00:29:37.200 --> 00:29:37.880
that. I mean, I think
that's good pub. I think when you

507
00:29:37.920 --> 00:29:41.119
have someone like Chad that has as
much you know, kind of cloud in

508
00:29:41.160 --> 00:29:45.160
the Twitter space and obviously he spent
time in the league and everything else,

509
00:29:45.000 --> 00:29:48.279
Oh it's great. I mean,
yeah, Chad, I remember, I

510
00:29:48.279 --> 00:29:51.880
mean I was really young when he
you know, kind of had his stop

511
00:29:51.880 --> 00:29:53.519
in the CFL. I think it
was after he was with the Dolphins and

512
00:29:53.559 --> 00:29:56.480
all that kind of fell apart.
But yeah, no, I mean Chad

513
00:29:56.519 --> 00:30:00.200
looked. Man. I mean,
if you're getting publicity from Chado, sink,

514
00:30:00.359 --> 00:30:03.680
you're doing something right. I Mean, that guy is always been very

515
00:30:03.799 --> 00:30:07.319
vocal, you know, very Um. I've always liked him in the media

516
00:30:07.400 --> 00:30:11.759
space just because he's very you know, honest, straightforward. Um, you

517
00:30:11.759 --> 00:30:14.759
know, tell it to you like
it is, um no bs type of

518
00:30:14.799 --> 00:30:17.839
guy. Um. And I've always
appreciated that, and I think it's cool

519
00:30:17.920 --> 00:30:19.920
to see him, you know,
constantly promoting the league and he's not one

520
00:30:19.920 --> 00:30:23.640
of these guys where it feels forced
right, like he's actually just sitting there

521
00:30:23.680 --> 00:30:27.039
in front of his TV like us
enjoining the games on a weekend or you

522
00:30:27.039 --> 00:30:30.839
know, at least the games that
we're able to watch, um, you

523
00:30:30.880 --> 00:30:33.519
know on any given weekend. Um. But yeah, no, I mean,

524
00:30:33.559 --> 00:30:37.400
look, I think Chad is um. You know, he's great publicity

525
00:30:37.400 --> 00:30:41.039
for the league. Ultimately, we
had another just last tweet here on this

526
00:30:41.160 --> 00:30:42.720
I posted on Twitter. You know, we're going live. What did we

527
00:30:42.839 --> 00:30:47.680
learn? Far Hans checking and we
learned it's great when you're so focuses the

528
00:30:47.759 --> 00:30:51.359
CFL. Hey now hey, now
I far Hans not liking the USFL put

529
00:30:51.359 --> 00:30:53.440
down now on here? What are
we talking about? And the man Jason

530
00:30:53.519 --> 00:30:56.279
thoughts on that? Anything else?
I mean the wide game here, uh

531
00:30:56.440 --> 00:31:00.839
you know BC, you know a
wins way in here. It was kind

532
00:31:00.880 --> 00:31:03.160
of ugly. I think that's what
I tweeted out. Any other thoughts on

533
00:31:03.200 --> 00:31:10.279
this one, not really. I
think that Craig Dickinson had a very controversial

534
00:31:10.759 --> 00:31:14.279
decision in this game. I think
that he went forward on a third and

535
00:31:14.319 --> 00:31:18.240
two inside the twenty yard line.
He actually got that one, and then

536
00:31:18.480 --> 00:31:21.200
a couple of plays later they had
a third goal and then decided to kick

537
00:31:21.200 --> 00:31:23.960
a field goal. So I mean, some of these in game decisions by

538
00:31:25.000 --> 00:31:30.079
these coaches I think are quite confusing. I think Dave Dickinson Calgary had a

539
00:31:30.079 --> 00:31:33.519
couple of of those this week.
So starting to question some of the in

540
00:31:33.720 --> 00:31:37.960
game coaching decisions for some of these
coaches. Orlando Steinauer will get too with

541
00:31:37.039 --> 00:31:41.319
the tie Cats as well. So
I mean that's another takeaway I had from

542
00:31:41.319 --> 00:31:44.240
this game. Yeah, I like
it was it last week when it was

543
00:31:44.240 --> 00:31:45.880
like did they call it like the
Brothers Bowl or whatever? When you got

544
00:31:45.920 --> 00:31:49.160
the Dickinson's facing off against each other
and Evan anything else on this one.

545
00:31:49.200 --> 00:31:55.759
We'll move on now, is all
right? Let's go back here. Let

546
00:31:55.759 --> 00:32:00.480
me pull this up Toronto coming in, you know, I mean this one

547
00:32:00.519 --> 00:32:02.039
would be a little bit closer.
I'm sure if you're a Jason I here,

548
00:32:02.160 --> 00:32:06.720
Jason, were you at this game? No? Actually, I was

549
00:32:07.039 --> 00:32:10.240
on vacation on Thursday and Friday,
had to watch those games on demand after

550
00:32:10.279 --> 00:32:15.279
the fact, I was what you
call it. I actually was on my

551
00:32:15.319 --> 00:32:17.119
way back from vacation when this game
was going on, so it caught a

552
00:32:17.119 --> 00:32:21.680
bit of bit on the radio.
But ultimately when I went back and watched,

553
00:32:21.720 --> 00:32:24.200
I think that this game was pretty
much over in the second quarter because

554
00:32:24.680 --> 00:32:28.599
the Tyecats defense, I thought,
really needed to play well in the first

555
00:32:28.599 --> 00:32:32.039
half to give their rookie quarterback making
his first career of CFLs start a chance.

556
00:32:32.279 --> 00:32:36.319
They ultimately battled back, made it
a one score game in the fourth

557
00:32:36.400 --> 00:32:38.160
quarter, but then that's when their
defense kind of fell apart again. So

558
00:32:38.480 --> 00:32:42.759
I thought that it was very disappointing
how the tie Cats started this game.

559
00:32:42.960 --> 00:32:45.119
It's been all too common of a
theme so far this season for them.

560
00:32:45.160 --> 00:32:49.839
But the argos, like I said
earlier, are fine oiled machine and Chad

561
00:32:49.920 --> 00:32:53.519
Kelly really is the story of the
CFL so far this season. I thought

562
00:32:53.559 --> 00:32:57.759
we were getting We've had, obviously
the quarterback change. I thought the tie

563
00:32:57.759 --> 00:33:00.759
Cats were getting back to running the
ball. Here all we have forty one

564
00:33:00.759 --> 00:33:02.839
attempts by rookie Court, you know, rookie coming out here, only eight

565
00:33:02.920 --> 00:33:07.680
carries by Butler Jason. What do
you make of that the game script,

566
00:33:07.720 --> 00:33:10.359
I think that's what happened, is
they fell behind twenty to nothing in the

567
00:33:10.440 --> 00:33:15.200
second quarter. Yes, one of
those uh plays was, you know,

568
00:33:15.319 --> 00:33:19.799
interception by a bad decision by Powell. But I think that the defense gave

569
00:33:19.880 --> 00:33:22.400
up a couple of long drives early
in the game, and you know,

570
00:33:22.440 --> 00:33:27.799
we're down fourteen nothing and then twenty
nothing, and then that really dictated how

571
00:33:27.839 --> 00:33:30.880
their play calling was the rest of
the game. They they really had to

572
00:33:30.960 --> 00:33:34.000
drop back and pass and see what
they could do. And I think that

573
00:33:34.079 --> 00:33:38.400
Powell did pretty good considering Evan thoughts. You know, Chad Kelly still Chad

574
00:33:38.440 --> 00:33:42.359
Kelly in Toronto, certainly being able
to put up points here, you know,

575
00:33:42.599 --> 00:33:45.599
thirty one. I think that's the
lowest they've had right in terms of

576
00:33:45.599 --> 00:33:49.000
average game score. But what did
you make of Chad? Yeah, so

577
00:33:49.039 --> 00:33:52.400
we'll talk about Toronto first. Chad
Kelly. At this point, I mean,

578
00:33:52.440 --> 00:33:54.119
it's just kind of textbook, right, I've said it with Winnipeg and

579
00:33:54.200 --> 00:33:58.359
Zach Colaros and their crew. You
kind of just know what to expect after

580
00:33:58.400 --> 00:34:00.799
a certain point. And now it's
kind of like every week, if Chad

581
00:34:00.880 --> 00:34:05.519
Kelly doesn't throw for two hundred and
fifty plus yards and two touchdowns and complete

582
00:34:05.680 --> 00:34:07.079
seventy percent of his passes. I'm
like, well, what happened, you

583
00:34:07.119 --> 00:34:09.719
know, But now it's just like
this kind of automatic thing. I mean,

584
00:34:09.760 --> 00:34:15.119
bottom line, is he really is
that good? And this question keeps

585
00:34:15.119 --> 00:34:17.400
coming up, like is Chad Kelly
the most valuable I'm pretty sure he's the

586
00:34:17.400 --> 00:34:21.840
most valuable quarterback, but valuable player
in the CFL as a hole right now,

587
00:34:22.760 --> 00:34:24.320
you can definitely make that argument still, and I think he has the

588
00:34:24.360 --> 00:34:29.159
most hype around him, Like there
was a lot there was still now keep

589
00:34:29.199 --> 00:34:30.800
in mind, like Chad Kelly,
you know, finished that great Cup game

590
00:34:30.840 --> 00:34:35.000
off and we always talk about that, but there were still some questions about

591
00:34:35.079 --> 00:34:37.840
him heading into this season, like
whether or not you can actually hold that

592
00:34:37.920 --> 00:34:39.599
momentum. I don't think everyone in
Toronto was just sitting there like, yeah,

593
00:34:39.719 --> 00:34:43.119
like Chad will be fine, you
know, like he's like he's a

594
00:34:43.159 --> 00:34:45.159
bona fide starter. Like to be
honest, he was really unproven. You

595
00:34:45.159 --> 00:34:49.599
know, he was coming in,
you know from the NFL where he you

596
00:34:49.639 --> 00:34:52.119
know, really only played in the
preseason. I think he appeared in like

597
00:34:52.159 --> 00:34:54.960
one game with the Broncos but didn't
throw a pass. So he was very

598
00:34:55.000 --> 00:34:59.400
you know, unproven going into the
CFL and really outside of that you know,

599
00:34:59.480 --> 00:35:01.320
great Cup game, he hadn't done
much. And you know, now

600
00:35:01.360 --> 00:35:05.960
this season it looks like, you
know that the development is finally starting to

601
00:35:06.039 --> 00:35:08.360
show. And maybe it's happening a
bit quicker than some of the other quarterbacks

602
00:35:08.360 --> 00:35:10.719
in this league. But yeah,
man, Chad still got it. You

603
00:35:10.719 --> 00:35:14.519
know. It's it's the swag Kelly
era, just like it's the Dustin KRUMMERA.

604
00:35:14.639 --> 00:35:17.360
I guess, yeah, two outstanding
Krmactually, Jason, what did you

605
00:35:17.400 --> 00:35:21.679
make of Chad Kelly here? We
got there? Two zero here for the

606
00:35:21.800 --> 00:35:27.320
quew Revelrie. Well, for NFL
fans that maybe watching this, one guy

607
00:35:27.360 --> 00:35:30.079
that he kind of reminds me of
is a young Ben Roethlisberger. He seems

608
00:35:30.119 --> 00:35:32.719
like a guy that, you know, he's a big guy, hard guy

609
00:35:32.719 --> 00:35:36.880
to bring down in the pocket,
has a big arm, has a bit

610
00:35:36.920 --> 00:35:38.800
of a you know, ability to
extend plays. You know, not the

611
00:35:38.840 --> 00:35:42.760
fastest guy in the world, but
can get out there and run if he

612
00:35:42.840 --> 00:35:45.880
needs to. And I think that
the deep ball passing, the arm strength

613
00:35:46.039 --> 00:35:49.920
is just so apparent when you see
him, just doesn't look normal. For

614
00:35:49.960 --> 00:35:52.199
a CFL quarterback. He had a
couple of throws in this game that were

615
00:35:52.239 --> 00:35:57.360
absolute lasers. I think he had
the one touchdown to Curly Geitton's junior that

616
00:35:57.360 --> 00:36:00.360
I was like, Wow, there
wasn't much room to throw that ball into

617
00:36:00.440 --> 00:36:02.639
at all, and he got it
in there. So I think it's been

618
00:36:02.639 --> 00:36:08.239
incredibly impressive for U Chad Kelly so
far this season with the argos. Let's

619
00:36:08.280 --> 00:36:13.000
talk a little at Hamilton here.
I had Todd gets anger on Twitter,

620
00:36:13.039 --> 00:36:15.320
but I thought this was good.
How does this I learned the stein Howard

621
00:36:15.320 --> 00:36:17.239
still go on question as the head
coach and to see al level job.

622
00:36:17.360 --> 00:36:20.719
Evan, what did you make of
the tie Cat's approach to this game?

623
00:36:21.760 --> 00:36:24.199
Yeah, well, I mean if
you want to talk about Steinauer first before

624
00:36:24.199 --> 00:36:29.320
you know the tie Cats overall.
M I do think there is questions about

625
00:36:29.360 --> 00:36:30.360
that, um, you know,
I mean, yeah, we don't really

626
00:36:30.400 --> 00:36:34.559
talk about it. Not often that
we talk about coaches on this show.

627
00:36:34.599 --> 00:36:37.320
I think it's more player focused,
but you know, yeah, I mean

628
00:36:37.760 --> 00:36:42.280
Orlando Steinauer, the tie Cats are
clearly entering this phase where it's it's a

629
00:36:42.280 --> 00:36:44.960
bit of a rebuild. I mean
you've moved on, you know, from

630
00:36:44.960 --> 00:36:47.639
your two sort of bona fide quarterbacks. Um, you know, Brandon Banks,

631
00:36:47.679 --> 00:36:50.719
who was there for a long time
like that air is kind of long

632
00:36:50.800 --> 00:36:53.480
gone already, so you know,
it's it's definitely kind of entering a new

633
00:36:53.519 --> 00:36:57.159
phase, and you know, is
he the one to lead this team through

634
00:36:57.159 --> 00:37:00.280
the new phase. Well, you
know, I think you'll stick around for

635
00:37:00.280 --> 00:37:02.639
this season, but if you're looking
ahead at twenty twenty four, I mean,

636
00:37:02.719 --> 00:37:06.559
yeah, you're you're definitely gonna hear
more questions about this later on.

637
00:37:06.599 --> 00:37:12.079
I think. But overall, just
this game and kind of the approach again,

638
00:37:12.199 --> 00:37:15.119
you know, inability to run the
ball I think really hurt Hamilton.

639
00:37:15.280 --> 00:37:19.400
Jim's butler had this incredible game against
Edmonton last week. Now, now keep

640
00:37:19.400 --> 00:37:22.719
in mind that's against the Elks,
I get it, but still had a

641
00:37:22.719 --> 00:37:25.320
really nice game. And then this
game you wouldn't have even known he was

642
00:37:25.400 --> 00:37:29.039
playing really. I mean, yeah, he had a couple of catches and

643
00:37:29.199 --> 00:37:31.360
things like that. I love James, nothing against him, but when you're

644
00:37:31.400 --> 00:37:36.440
you know, averaging one point eight
yards per carry on eight touches, I

645
00:37:36.440 --> 00:37:40.480
mean that's just so forgettable. And
it's really like if your quarterback is the

646
00:37:40.559 --> 00:37:45.199
leading rusher, you know in the
game. That's typically not a great side.

647
00:37:45.239 --> 00:37:46.960
Now it worked for Ottawa. I
believe Dustin Crumb was their leading and

648
00:37:47.199 --> 00:37:52.719
perhaps most efficient rusher, but in
this case, like, yeah, Taylor

649
00:37:52.719 --> 00:37:54.800
Powell, who was in his first
CFL start, had to throw the ball

650
00:37:54.880 --> 00:38:00.280
forty one times and you know that's
just not now. I think he did

651
00:38:00.360 --> 00:38:02.559
a pretty good job given that it
was his first start, completed twenty seven

652
00:38:02.559 --> 00:38:06.199
passes, you know, could have
averaged a bit more here and there.

653
00:38:06.440 --> 00:38:08.039
I think there was still some things
lacking, but ultimately, yeah, like

654
00:38:08.280 --> 00:38:13.800
the one stat category I guess that
really stands out to me from him is

655
00:38:13.840 --> 00:38:15.920
that two hundred and eighty three yards
there. I mean he was really getting

656
00:38:15.960 --> 00:38:20.760
the ball around to two different receivers
and moving on to that category. I

657
00:38:20.800 --> 00:38:24.119
think it was really nice to see
Terry Godwin step up in this game.

658
00:38:24.199 --> 00:38:27.719
Now, for people who don't know
who Terry Godwin is, it was a

659
00:38:27.719 --> 00:38:31.320
former seventh round pick of the Carolina
Panthers in twenty nineteen, then went on

660
00:38:31.360 --> 00:38:35.639
with the Jaguars, and I think
he was with another team before coming up

661
00:38:35.639 --> 00:38:38.159
to Hamilton, But that was someone
I think I had my radar on,

662
00:38:39.119 --> 00:38:43.199
like preseason and then I kind of
forgot about him, and then you know,

663
00:38:43.199 --> 00:38:44.960
I was watching this game and I'm
like, oh, that's right,

664
00:38:45.000 --> 00:38:47.800
Hamilton has Terry Godwin and I think
him, and you know, Duke Williams

665
00:38:47.840 --> 00:38:52.039
again finally kind of got going in
this game. I don't think last week

666
00:38:52.119 --> 00:38:55.000
he had a target, let alone
a catch or anything like that. So

667
00:38:55.119 --> 00:38:59.519
yeah, I think him. I
think Terry Godwin and Duke Williams if they

668
00:38:59.559 --> 00:39:01.840
can kind of be a one two
punch in the receiving corps moving forward,

669
00:39:01.880 --> 00:39:05.920
regardless of who the quarterback is,
you know, whether it's Bolivia or Taylor

670
00:39:05.920 --> 00:39:08.280
Powell or maybe Matt Schultz comes,
you know, back in down later in

671
00:39:08.320 --> 00:39:13.440
the season. I think those two
guys right now are probably the best options

672
00:39:13.440 --> 00:39:17.920
for Hamilton on offense. Jason,
how are you feeling this season? I

673
00:39:19.000 --> 00:39:22.079
think the biggest concern with me and
I always when I look at head coaches

674
00:39:22.119 --> 00:39:25.039
specifically and how I judge them,
I always look at what side of the

675
00:39:25.079 --> 00:39:30.000
ball are they specialized in? Are
they a defensive guy or they special teams

676
00:39:30.079 --> 00:39:32.880
or the offense. Steinauer is a
defensive head coach, and the defense has

677
00:39:32.920 --> 00:39:37.559
gotten worse every single year under his
tenure. And I mean they made a

678
00:39:37.559 --> 00:39:42.119
big gamble. And keep in mind
that Steinauer is now the president of football

679
00:39:42.119 --> 00:39:45.480
Operations, so he makes a lot
of the personnel decisions as well for this

680
00:39:45.519 --> 00:39:51.519
team, and and what you call
it. He decided to go really young

681
00:39:51.679 --> 00:39:54.400
in the secondary. They were had
a lot of experience veterans back there in

682
00:39:54.400 --> 00:39:59.239
the secondary last year, and they
had pretty thin depth on the defensive line

683
00:39:59.280 --> 00:40:01.199
last year. This year it's flipped. They decided to invest a lot of

684
00:40:01.239 --> 00:40:05.840
money in the defensive line. It
is not paid off, and the secondary

685
00:40:05.880 --> 00:40:08.119
has looked very poor. They look
young and an experience just like they are

686
00:40:08.239 --> 00:40:12.000
going into the season on paper.
So I think at the end of the

687
00:40:12.079 --> 00:40:15.280
day, you know, it's very
disappointed to see what's happened at this defense

688
00:40:15.480 --> 00:40:17.679
that used to be something that Hamilton
could hang their hat on. And I

689
00:40:17.760 --> 00:40:22.440
think in terms of their offense,
it really just comes down to offensive red

690
00:40:22.559 --> 00:40:25.760
zone efficiency and I think they just
have not scored enough touchdowns. If they

691
00:40:25.800 --> 00:40:29.920
scored two touchdowns more in this game, it's a brand new game, So

692
00:40:29.960 --> 00:40:31.159
I think at the end of the
day, that's something they need to fix.

693
00:40:31.239 --> 00:40:35.800
But I don't know what the answer
is because the three quarterbacks that we've

694
00:40:35.800 --> 00:40:37.719
seen out there none of them have
really been able to find much success in

695
00:40:37.800 --> 00:40:42.280
the red zone. And then we've
talked about this, but just laying there

696
00:40:42.280 --> 00:40:44.719
this eight carres for Butler, it's
just insane to me. I get you

697
00:40:44.760 --> 00:40:46.159
say, you know we're falling behind, we have to do that. What's

698
00:40:46.159 --> 00:40:50.519
the timeline on Schiltz coming back?
Do we know anything? I know he

699
00:40:50.599 --> 00:40:53.239
was kind of TVD is he on
the sixth game? He's on the sixth

700
00:40:53.280 --> 00:40:57.599
game injured list, and he was
up in the press box for this game.

701
00:40:57.639 --> 00:41:00.239
I don't know if that was just
you know, trying to get them

702
00:41:00.239 --> 00:41:02.239
in a different view of the field
or whatnot. But you know, it

703
00:41:02.239 --> 00:41:06.639
doesn't look like he's coming back anytime
soon. But like I said earlier in

704
00:41:06.679 --> 00:41:09.400
the show that bow Lee by Mitchell
is back at practice this week for Hamilton's

705
00:41:09.400 --> 00:41:13.239
so maybe they get a boost if
he comes back. But I think at

706
00:41:13.280 --> 00:41:16.360
the end of the day, I
think there's bigger problems besides the quarterback position

707
00:41:16.400 --> 00:41:20.440
on this team right now, Well
that's my concern. Then we'll go to

708
00:41:20.519 --> 00:41:23.480
Evan. Like you know, bow
didn't look good when he played and got

709
00:41:23.519 --> 00:41:27.480
hurt, and now he's back.
I mean, I don't know what Hamilton

710
00:41:27.559 --> 00:41:30.440
does here because we've talked they're hosting
the Grade Cup this year. We're all

711
00:41:30.480 --> 00:41:32.719
going, it's like it's kind of
like Saskatchewan last year. We want to

712
00:41:32.719 --> 00:41:36.000
do everything we can to be in
it. I mean they were talking last

713
00:41:36.079 --> 00:41:37.559
year like break the salary cap,
you know, get everyone, you know,

714
00:41:37.639 --> 00:41:39.880
get do whatever you can to get
to the Grade Cup. Here.

715
00:41:39.960 --> 00:41:45.199
Edmonton's or Hamilton's going to do that, and you know, I bow comes

716
00:41:45.239 --> 00:41:46.000
back. I don't know if this
makes a difference. What do you think

717
00:41:46.000 --> 00:41:51.559
this team should do or could possibly
do. I just think they need to

718
00:41:51.559 --> 00:41:53.719
get more from the guys they brought
in this offseason. I don't know how

719
00:41:53.760 --> 00:41:58.039
they make that happen. I think
that, like I mentioned, I think

720
00:41:58.039 --> 00:42:00.199
the coaching has kind of you know, they've kind of been outcoached in a

721
00:42:00.280 --> 00:42:04.039
lot of these games this year.
One narrative I think we could put to

722
00:42:04.119 --> 00:42:07.760
bed is that I think over the
last couple of years, Tigercats fans have

723
00:42:07.840 --> 00:42:10.719
thought that we definitely had that coaching
advantage when they played against the Argos,

724
00:42:10.760 --> 00:42:15.400
that Orlando Steinauer was a better head
coach and we had a better coaching staff

725
00:42:15.440 --> 00:42:17.000
than the Toronto Argonauts. But I
think at the end of the day.

726
00:42:17.079 --> 00:42:21.639
Now it's just quite clear to me
that Ryan did what he always has his

727
00:42:21.719 --> 00:42:27.239
team ready, better, ready prepared
to play against Hamilton. I think Steinauer

728
00:42:27.280 --> 00:42:30.360
are just they don't look prepared at
all to start the games. You look

729
00:42:30.360 --> 00:42:34.199
at the first half this season,
it's been brutal. Evan thoughts for you.

730
00:42:35.159 --> 00:42:37.360
Yeah, I mean, look,
you know, I hate to be

731
00:42:37.960 --> 00:42:42.519
critical of any team, and I
you know, everything that I say his

732
00:42:42.679 --> 00:42:45.920
constructive criticism, right, it's not
you know, a dislike towards anybody or

733
00:42:45.960 --> 00:42:50.920
anything like that. But I think
Hamilton is in a serious period of regression.

734
00:42:51.920 --> 00:42:53.719
You just look at you know,
I mean, yeah, Steinauer is

735
00:42:53.760 --> 00:42:57.920
one thing, but like Jason said, I mean that defense used to be,

736
00:42:57.960 --> 00:42:59.920
you know, one of the top
in the CFL, led by Simony

737
00:43:00.039 --> 00:43:02.239
Lawrence and others, and now you
kind of look at their defense and it's

738
00:43:02.280 --> 00:43:06.360
just like okay, like you know, there's nothing really to write home about

739
00:43:06.360 --> 00:43:07.360
there. I mean, hell,
you could look at some of the other

740
00:43:07.400 --> 00:43:10.519
bottom tier I guess you'd say teams
in the CFL, and they probably have

741
00:43:10.840 --> 00:43:15.239
better defenses at that point. I
think that's just because Hamilton's lost again so

742
00:43:15.280 --> 00:43:19.719
many players since they're great Cup runs
to free agency. I mean, they've

743
00:43:19.719 --> 00:43:22.719
retained a couple pieces, but you
know, the team definitely looks a lot

744
00:43:22.760 --> 00:43:24.480
different than what I was really invested
in it, even just like two years

745
00:43:24.480 --> 00:43:29.199
ago. So yeah, I mean
it's definitely a period of change, right,

746
00:43:29.280 --> 00:43:31.719
And you know, I'm I expected
this from Hamilton again, like if

747
00:43:31.719 --> 00:43:35.719
you're talking about this game in general, I mean I expected Toronto to win,

748
00:43:36.159 --> 00:43:37.239
and they did, and they did
just how I thought they would.

749
00:43:37.639 --> 00:43:40.000
Nothing really out of the ordinary there. But in the bigger picture, I

750
00:43:40.000 --> 00:43:45.280
mean, you know, Hamilton is
definitely kind of looking at another sort of

751
00:43:45.519 --> 00:43:50.159
you know, restructure, and it
sucks because they were so close. I

752
00:43:50.159 --> 00:43:52.280
mean, they went to back to
back, you know, great cups.

753
00:43:52.280 --> 00:43:54.000
I mean it was a great run
and you know, that was the best

754
00:43:54.039 --> 00:43:59.320
that they've had really in a long
time. But you know, if you

755
00:43:59.320 --> 00:44:00.599
can't get the job done, I
mean, it's that's football, right,

756
00:44:00.639 --> 00:44:04.639
It's a it's a winning business,
and you know, unfortunately, if that

757
00:44:04.719 --> 00:44:07.199
aspect doesn't get completed, then you
have to bring new people into try and

758
00:44:07.280 --> 00:44:10.840
you know, accomplish the same goal. So yeah, moving forward here,

759
00:44:12.119 --> 00:44:13.639
Jason, Wait, what do you
what do you want? I mean,

760
00:44:13.639 --> 00:44:17.639
you're you're the tie Cats fan here, what do you want, Oh,

761
00:44:17.719 --> 00:44:22.840
Jason, you're a mute? Sorry? Yeah, So I just want more

762
00:44:22.920 --> 00:44:27.159
from the guys they brought in this
offseason. Some guys they paid big money

763
00:44:27.159 --> 00:44:30.320
too, that just have not made
a big impact for this team this year.

764
00:44:30.599 --> 00:44:32.280
I think the offensive line, um, they bade a couple of big

765
00:44:32.280 --> 00:44:37.039
additions late last season, guys like
David Beard, who's a center. I

766
00:44:37.199 --> 00:44:40.079
had several high snaps in this one
that kind of threw off the timing.

767
00:44:40.119 --> 00:44:45.079
The interception was a high snap that
kind of threw off the timing of that

768
00:44:45.159 --> 00:44:47.559
play. I think the offensive line
has been a unit that's been very disappointing

769
00:44:47.599 --> 00:44:51.360
this year. They've had some injuries
there, but I think overall, when

770
00:44:51.440 --> 00:44:53.639
even when they've been healthy, they
haven't played very well. I think that

771
00:44:54.480 --> 00:44:59.000
again, the coaching is um something
I want to see more from. I

772
00:44:59.000 --> 00:45:00.960
want to see this team start games
a lot better. I think a lot

773
00:45:01.039 --> 00:45:05.400
of the times they've really lost games
in the first half of games. So

774
00:45:05.440 --> 00:45:08.199
I think if they come out and
they're more competitive to begin games, I

775
00:45:08.199 --> 00:45:12.320
think they'll be in better shape.
And you know, I think they still

776
00:45:12.480 --> 00:45:15.920
can salvage this season. And I
think the CFL season is very long,

777
00:45:15.039 --> 00:45:19.599
but they need to start winning soon
because you know, a lot of these

778
00:45:19.599 --> 00:45:22.360
games have come against Eastern opponents,
and I think when you look at their

779
00:45:22.360 --> 00:45:27.519
four losses this season, they've been
all very convincing losses. I think all

780
00:45:27.519 --> 00:45:31.679
of them by double digits. And
it's been very disappointed to see just how,

781
00:45:32.440 --> 00:45:36.159
you know, the lack of competitiveness
for this team this year. I

782
00:45:36.159 --> 00:45:38.199
thought that, yeah, maybe they
lose some close games and start slow this

783
00:45:38.280 --> 00:45:44.159
year, but I didn't think they'd
lose games this convincingly. Evan we have

784
00:45:44.360 --> 00:45:45.400
here, you know, look at
the Elks or and some thing, and

785
00:45:45.400 --> 00:45:47.280
we'll get to that game before we
get out of here. You know,

786
00:45:47.400 --> 00:45:52.920
Tiecats two and four Stamps two more
stam Peters feel like the better two and

787
00:45:52.920 --> 00:45:55.079
four team here? What do you
if you had to go with two of

788
00:45:55.079 --> 00:46:00.239
those kind of bottoms here? Yeah, I would definitely take the Stampeters here.

789
00:46:00.760 --> 00:46:01.920
I just think they have a lot
more momentum, you know, and

790
00:46:02.000 --> 00:46:06.559
a lot less questions. I mean, this team, you know, historically

791
00:46:06.599 --> 00:46:08.519
has been in the playoffs all the
time, and you know, Hamilton again,

792
00:46:08.559 --> 00:46:13.280
I expected regression with Calgary. I
mean I had a lot of questions,

793
00:46:13.760 --> 00:46:15.440
but they're kind of I mean,
I thought they'd be like at five

794
00:46:15.559 --> 00:46:19.320
hundred by this point. You know, they're right below they can easily get

795
00:46:19.320 --> 00:46:22.639
back in the swing and you know
it's like week seven or whatever, but

796
00:46:22.679 --> 00:46:24.199
there's still i mean rolling like a
third of the way through this season.

797
00:46:24.280 --> 00:46:29.199
So again, plenty of time here
to make amends and make things right.

798
00:46:29.280 --> 00:46:31.000
But the one thing I was going
to point out, and really it's between

799
00:46:31.000 --> 00:46:34.440
the Red Blacks and the tie Cats. So this is kind of a random

800
00:46:34.480 --> 00:46:37.800
thought that I had last night when
I was going through my notes. You

801
00:46:37.840 --> 00:46:42.079
want to talk about, you know, teams, it sort of feels like,

802
00:46:42.119 --> 00:46:44.880
well, now, obviously it's a
bit different with the Red Blacks having

803
00:46:44.920 --> 00:46:47.480
three wins and the Elks having none, but we had this discussion in the

804
00:46:47.599 --> 00:46:52.039
XFL last year between you know,
two of the bottom tier teams. It

805
00:46:52.159 --> 00:46:57.599
was Orlando in Vegas, and just
kind of how you know, different those

806
00:46:57.599 --> 00:47:00.679
two vibes felt like both of those
teams, you know we're struggling early on,

807
00:47:00.920 --> 00:47:02.800
you know, winless whatever, But
with Vegas it kind of just felt

808
00:47:02.840 --> 00:47:06.360
like, again they were one step
away, like an auto's case. We

809
00:47:06.400 --> 00:47:08.800
keep saying, oh the dust and
crumb away or whatever. And then with

810
00:47:08.840 --> 00:47:12.800
the Elks, it's kind of like
Orlando the Guardians. It's like, well,

811
00:47:13.559 --> 00:47:15.440
this is such a complex issue.
There's so many things wrong here.

812
00:47:15.639 --> 00:47:17.920
You know, you kind of need
to break it down and examine, you

813
00:47:17.920 --> 00:47:22.719
know, piece by piece, you
know, how to fix this organization really

814
00:47:22.719 --> 00:47:25.719
your team or whatever you want to
call it. Um. So that's kind

815
00:47:25.760 --> 00:47:30.519
of I think you can apply that
same sort of notion to a couple of

816
00:47:30.519 --> 00:47:35.360
the teams here in the CFL.
For me, it was again Viper's Guardians

817
00:47:35.400 --> 00:47:37.920
to you know, Red Blacks and
Elks obviously a bit different, you know,

818
00:47:37.920 --> 00:47:40.039
two different leagues, two different times. Whatever, I get it.

819
00:47:40.519 --> 00:47:44.920
But I think it's always kind of
interesting to point out, like there's teams

820
00:47:44.960 --> 00:47:46.880
that you watch and um, you're
like, oh, like if they just

821
00:47:46.960 --> 00:47:51.400
had this, you know, they'd
be fine. But then there's other teams.

822
00:47:51.400 --> 00:47:53.159
And I think Hamilton kind of falls
into this category now too that we're

823
00:47:53.199 --> 00:47:57.599
talking about it, where it's it's
not just one piece away, you know,

824
00:47:57.639 --> 00:48:00.599
it's not just one thing. It's
that there's so many, you know,

825
00:48:00.639 --> 00:48:01.519
pieces, and I mean that's all
of football, right. I don't

826
00:48:01.519 --> 00:48:06.360
think there's ever, you know,
one glaring thing that really causes a problem.

827
00:48:06.400 --> 00:48:08.280
There's always something deeper that you know, maybe you don't know about if

828
00:48:08.280 --> 00:48:12.519
you're not within the organization. But
ultimately, um with Hamilton, I think

829
00:48:12.519 --> 00:48:15.440
there's a lot of components there that
are missing in order to win. Jason,

830
00:48:15.440 --> 00:48:19.360
anything else from me on this game, No, I think we've we've

831
00:48:19.400 --> 00:48:22.960
beat the dead horse enough last game
here, you know, and I took

832
00:48:23.000 --> 00:48:27.360
my gamble. I say that da
Gamble is in Winnipeg for the game.

833
00:48:27.639 --> 00:48:30.079
I'm just gonna laser that Evanton is
not going to pull this one out in

834
00:48:30.119 --> 00:48:36.440
remarkable fashion. Here the therapy session
continues. Uh, Jason will go to

835
00:48:36.519 --> 00:48:38.360
you first. What do you make
of this? Uh? Oh and seven?

836
00:48:38.719 --> 00:48:42.800
And I don't We'll talk about the
BC thing here coming up, because

837
00:48:42.800 --> 00:48:45.719
I don't want BC to be the
team that allows them to bring But what

838
00:48:45.840 --> 00:48:49.239
did you make of this one?
On the road Louisia to Winnipeg. Well,

839
00:48:49.360 --> 00:48:52.960
Edmonton was very competitive for a lot
of this game, but again they

840
00:48:53.000 --> 00:48:59.280
just don't have the consistency needed,
especially at the quarterback position, but just

841
00:48:59.639 --> 00:49:02.920
on offense in general to win games
consistently in the CFL, or even won

842
00:49:04.000 --> 00:49:07.000
one game at this point. It's
just it's just a very frustrating team to

843
00:49:07.039 --> 00:49:10.480
watch. I have a very hard
time watching this team week after week because

844
00:49:10.519 --> 00:49:13.880
it seems like they get in their
own way. You could see they have

845
00:49:14.119 --> 00:49:17.679
some intriguing, interesting individual pieces.
I thought that um, you know,

846
00:49:17.719 --> 00:49:22.480
Ac Landard and Jake Serezna made a
big impact in this one. I thought

847
00:49:22.480 --> 00:49:24.800
they really kind of pushed around when
the PEG's offensive line for a lot of

848
00:49:24.800 --> 00:49:28.039
this game. But they think at
the end of the day, this team

849
00:49:28.079 --> 00:49:30.519
can't close in the fourth quarter when
the lights get brightest, they just they

850
00:49:30.519 --> 00:49:34.360
just kind of fall apart. So
I mean, it's the same old story

851
00:49:34.400 --> 00:49:37.400
for the Elks. Evan, when
do you make of this? Yeah,

852
00:49:37.440 --> 00:49:39.719
I mean the game was tied at
half, you know, and for a

853
00:49:39.719 --> 00:49:44.119
while there it was like I saw
I forget who tweeted it, but there

854
00:49:44.159 --> 00:49:46.639
was something on Twitter it was like
Edmonton's not gonna do this, Like come

855
00:49:46.679 --> 00:49:50.400
on, guys, like let's let's
get real here. And yeah, I

856
00:49:50.400 --> 00:49:53.360
mean they didn't you know, any
kind of hope you had quickly slipped away

857
00:49:53.360 --> 00:49:57.960
in the third quarter. And I
think Dave was saying, you know,

858
00:49:57.960 --> 00:50:00.719
on your show this week, like
how much of a struggle the second half,

859
00:50:00.719 --> 00:50:05.199
specifically the third quarter has been for
the elex and in this game,

860
00:50:05.199 --> 00:50:07.079
it might have been more of the
fourth quarter. But like Winnipeg, I

861
00:50:07.119 --> 00:50:12.199
think scored fifteen points or something in
the third, so that definitely again els

862
00:50:12.280 --> 00:50:15.360
kind of came out of second half
and it's almost like they regress. You

863
00:50:15.360 --> 00:50:17.440
know, he's supposed to make adjustments
and get better at halftime. It feels

864
00:50:17.440 --> 00:50:22.039
like Edmonton, you know, constantly
this season just goes backwards, like in

865
00:50:22.079 --> 00:50:23.880
the wrong direction if anything. And
it happened a bit too in the Hamilton

866
00:50:24.000 --> 00:50:28.800
game, even though that was kind
of unraveling a bit before half. But

867
00:50:28.880 --> 00:50:31.199
yeah, ultimately, you know,
Edmonton in this game, again, they

868
00:50:31.239 --> 00:50:35.679
really weren't terrible. I like Taylor
Cornelius, like you take away the two

869
00:50:35.679 --> 00:50:37.280
picks. I mean, I thought
he had an okay outing and you know,

870
00:50:37.320 --> 00:50:40.719
again it was very efficient on the
ground, running the ball, you

871
00:50:40.719 --> 00:50:44.760
know, had that big play to
Dylan Mitchell. Like it wasn't all bad.

872
00:50:44.800 --> 00:50:47.119
Again, there's strides to be made
here, and I know we've you

873
00:50:47.119 --> 00:50:52.519
know kind of I guess, you
know, maybe said some things about Cornelius

874
00:50:52.559 --> 00:50:55.800
in the past that weren't the best. And you know, again I wish

875
00:50:55.880 --> 00:50:59.880
him the best. He's a great
player. It's just sort of fit and

876
00:51:00.079 --> 00:51:01.360
time. And you know, we're
always talking about Trey four and now,

877
00:51:01.360 --> 00:51:06.159
look, I think Taylor Cornelis has
made a bit of progress this season.

878
00:51:06.199 --> 00:51:07.639
It's just, again, how many
times do I have to say it,

879
00:51:07.719 --> 00:51:12.239
Like, you know, when your
record or whatever going in the seat like

880
00:51:12.320 --> 00:51:15.159
four and you know, twenty six
or whatever, or maybe that's what it

881
00:51:15.239 --> 00:51:17.239
is now or at one point this
season it was that with the losses that

882
00:51:17.239 --> 00:51:21.639
they've accumulated here in twenty twenty three, Like, it's just I mean,

883
00:51:21.639 --> 00:51:23.119
come on, man, Like,
I know you want to have faith and

884
00:51:23.159 --> 00:51:25.639
you want to be confident, but
you can only give a person so many

885
00:51:25.679 --> 00:51:29.400
shots before you have to make a
change. And I feel like there's so

886
00:51:29.440 --> 00:51:34.679
many things here that are just overdue. And again it's this was so expected.

887
00:51:34.719 --> 00:51:37.000
It's like, yeah, Edmonton had
I think some confidence that they could

888
00:51:37.039 --> 00:51:40.440
win this game, but ultimately it
just it fell apart as quickly as they

889
00:51:40.519 --> 00:51:45.159
built it up. And then you
know, Winnipeg just given how you know,

890
00:51:45.239 --> 00:51:49.239
how stout they've been over the past
couple of years. Now, obviously

891
00:51:49.320 --> 00:51:52.159
last week was a bit of an
odd an oddity for them, I guess

892
00:51:52.199 --> 00:51:55.000
you'd say, but it was back
to normal for them this week. Now,

893
00:51:55.079 --> 00:51:58.840
yeah, first half was a bit
different, but you know, if

894
00:51:58.840 --> 00:52:00.639
you watch this game old in the
second half, I mean, yeah,

895
00:52:00.639 --> 00:52:06.719
Winnipeg, it was that textbook Zach
Claro's finding his receivers, Brady olivera kind

896
00:52:06.719 --> 00:52:09.480
of you know, taking the rock
with them and being extremely efficient. It

897
00:52:09.599 --> 00:52:13.400
was just back to normal. And
uh yeah, I think that's like this

898
00:52:13.440 --> 00:52:16.840
game just felt very normal to me, given all the circumstances. Like yeah,

899
00:52:16.880 --> 00:52:21.480
again, first half maybe not like, but second half, yeah,

900
00:52:21.639 --> 00:52:23.159
I felt like, you know,
it was just any other game. Winnipeg

901
00:52:23.360 --> 00:52:28.559
pulls away against their opponent. You
know, Edmonton can't get things together unfortunately,

902
00:52:28.599 --> 00:52:30.559
and it just every week my heart
sinks a bit more for all the

903
00:52:30.599 --> 00:52:35.519
Elks fans and people like Dave who
who spent so much time covering that team.

904
00:52:36.639 --> 00:52:40.079
Jason, how has stray Forward not
seen the field? You got me

905
00:52:40.119 --> 00:52:44.039
at this point. It's just,
you know, like he codes out with

906
00:52:44.079 --> 00:52:47.239
that big explanation, explanation that why
he's not on the field. Oh,

907
00:52:47.280 --> 00:52:51.840
he's not playing that well in practice, But I mean you see what's actually

908
00:52:51.880 --> 00:52:53.960
on the field, and some guys, I mean they're just not that great

909
00:52:53.960 --> 00:52:57.480
in practice. But when the lights
come on, you get them on field

910
00:52:57.480 --> 00:53:00.679
in the game. I mean,
you know, you look at a guy

911
00:53:00.679 --> 00:53:04.000
like Tim Tebow that one year with
the Broncos. I mean, anything could

912
00:53:04.079 --> 00:53:07.440
light a spark for your team when
you're just down this badly. And I

913
00:53:07.480 --> 00:53:09.800
think at the end of the day, the elk's just you know, with

914
00:53:09.840 --> 00:53:14.320
Cornelius, he just inspires no hope. And like, on one hand,

915
00:53:14.360 --> 00:53:15.960
you just you want to give the
guy a lot of time to develop,

916
00:53:16.000 --> 00:53:20.840
because we've seen in the history of
the CFL guys really don't hit their stride

917
00:53:20.840 --> 00:53:23.000
at quarterback for you know, three
or four years into their career. But

918
00:53:23.239 --> 00:53:25.639
I think at a certain point you
gotta look around the league and say,

919
00:53:25.920 --> 00:53:30.840
Dustin Crum's already shown more than Taylor
Cornelius has ever shown us. And I

920
00:53:30.880 --> 00:53:36.239
think Taylor Powell's looked better than that
Cornelius has ever looked already in his first

921
00:53:36.239 --> 00:53:38.360
career starts. So at a certain
point you need results. And oh and

922
00:53:38.440 --> 00:53:43.320
seven just isn't gonna cut it.
Evan, I know you're gonna pop off

923
00:53:43.320 --> 00:53:45.800
here early. Any last thoughts from
you before you need to get out of

924
00:53:45.800 --> 00:53:50.000
here? Um, Yeah, you
know not, I mean not really like

925
00:53:50.039 --> 00:53:52.400
that. It was a pretty general, i'd say slate of games this week.

926
00:53:52.440 --> 00:53:55.440
I mean that that Ottawa Calgary game
I think really made up for anything

927
00:53:57.000 --> 00:54:00.280
that happened before that. But honestly, a lot of the same narratives and

928
00:54:00.320 --> 00:54:02.320
a lot of things that were just
expected. So you know this, I

929
00:54:02.360 --> 00:54:06.480
think, I mean, maybe I
sound a bit more negative in general this

930
00:54:06.559 --> 00:54:09.280
week because I was so excited about
last week's slate of games and how refreshing

931
00:54:09.320 --> 00:54:12.800
that was after just really the past, I mean, a couple of years

932
00:54:12.840 --> 00:54:15.400
have been let's be honest here,
So maybe I sound a bit more critical

933
00:54:15.440 --> 00:54:19.039
this week, But ultimately, yeah, I mean, you know, I'm

934
00:54:19.400 --> 00:54:22.639
we officially hit you know, the
third way through the season marker, and

935
00:54:22.880 --> 00:54:24.239
I'm enjoying it so far. Ultimately, I mean again, even if I

936
00:54:24.280 --> 00:54:28.880
have to, you know, say
certain things about certain people and players,

937
00:54:28.960 --> 00:54:30.960
it's all out of love for the
game. And you know, I really

938
00:54:31.000 --> 00:54:35.840
hope that some of these teams here
that we've talked about in a negative light,

939
00:54:36.000 --> 00:54:37.719
it can really turn things around.
Now, you know, Edmonton,

940
00:54:37.800 --> 00:54:39.760
I don't know, They've got a
lot of changes to make there, but

941
00:54:39.760 --> 00:54:45.039
there's you know, Hamilton, I
think there's still a salvageable part here and

942
00:54:45.039 --> 00:54:49.159
then Ottawa obviously is already kind of
you know, it went from their season

943
00:54:49.239 --> 00:54:51.519
was over to now, oh my
goodness, like we're right back in the

944
00:54:51.559 --> 00:54:54.239
fold, you know, possible even
playoffs here, which is crazy to think

945
00:54:54.239 --> 00:54:58.239
about, just given where we were, about how low we were, like

946
00:54:58.280 --> 00:55:00.000
when the SOULI got hurt and everything. So I don't know, it's been

947
00:55:00.039 --> 00:55:04.920
a wild season already, but a
lot of exciting storylines and there's still some

948
00:55:04.960 --> 00:55:07.480
things I hope would improve, but
all around it, Look, man,

949
00:55:07.599 --> 00:55:10.239
I can't complain. It's been fun, awesome. Evan, safe travels,

950
00:55:10.280 --> 00:55:14.360
good luck, and thanks for getting
your WiFi hotspot on here. Jason.

951
00:55:14.440 --> 00:55:16.360
I'll get out of here soon,
but I do want to talk about in

952
00:55:16.400 --> 00:55:22.920
this narrative here because I am scared
about this BC at Edmonton this week.

953
00:55:22.000 --> 00:55:27.280
Talking to Edmonton, you know,
I could just see, like Dane plays

954
00:55:27.400 --> 00:55:30.639
you know, Va, we're gonna
rest of her and then we have we're

955
00:55:30.719 --> 00:55:34.800
not coming in prepared, right,
What do you I listened to me is

956
00:55:34.800 --> 00:55:38.480
like trap game here scenario. Yeah, I mean, I mean every team

957
00:55:38.519 --> 00:55:43.199
is kind of afraid of being the
one that gives the Elks that first home

958
00:55:43.199 --> 00:55:46.760
win in forever. But I think
that with BC, the comforting thing for

959
00:55:46.800 --> 00:55:51.119
me is the defense, and I
think the defense gives them a certain floor

960
00:55:51.199 --> 00:55:53.159
each week. I really don't see
any way that Edmuton moves the ball in

961
00:55:53.239 --> 00:55:58.480
any efficient lay against that BC defense. I think that the one scary thing

962
00:55:58.599 --> 00:56:00.719
is, like you mentioned, I
think Dane Eva, if he plays in

963
00:56:00.800 --> 00:56:05.199
this one, he has been prone
to some big, high turnover games the

964
00:56:05.239 --> 00:56:08.000
last couple of years, So I
think that could be one thing that potentially

965
00:56:08.039 --> 00:56:10.679
makes this game a little bit closer. But I mean, I don't really

966
00:56:10.760 --> 00:56:15.719
have too many concerns as an outsider
this game for the Lions. Okay,

967
00:56:15.719 --> 00:56:16.440
well, that's good. That's good
to hear. That's good to year.

968
00:56:16.639 --> 00:56:21.840
We've tied Hamilton, Ottawa, Saskatchewan
going in. I mean, this could

969
00:56:21.880 --> 00:56:24.920
be a scary one too here Saskatchewan. The Mason Fine effect here which Toronto's

970
00:56:24.960 --> 00:56:29.679
defense. Are any fears here for
a commander in chief? They're Mason Fine?

971
00:56:30.320 --> 00:56:32.480
Yeah. Well this should be interesting. This is the touchdown Atlantic game,

972
00:56:32.519 --> 00:56:35.880
of course, so this should be
yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

973
00:56:36.159 --> 00:56:37.639
So this should be interesting to see. Um, you know, I

974
00:56:37.639 --> 00:56:40.360
think this is the first time the
game is actually going to be in the

975
00:56:40.440 --> 00:56:45.119
city of Halifax, So everybody that
talks about that team, maybe this is

976
00:56:45.599 --> 00:56:49.000
just a look at what this could
potentially look like down the road. But

977
00:56:49.639 --> 00:56:52.119
I think in terms of the game
itself, I think that you know,

978
00:56:52.199 --> 00:56:55.400
Toronto will obviously be heavy favorites,
but I think Saskatchewan's defense can kind of,

979
00:56:55.559 --> 00:56:59.880
you know, maybe disrupt Chad Kelly
a little bit more than he had

980
00:57:00.360 --> 00:57:02.519
the first five weeks of the season. But at the end of the day,

981
00:57:02.559 --> 00:57:07.599
I think Saskatchewan, you know,
they moved the ball. Okay last

982
00:57:07.639 --> 00:57:09.840
game, they got a bunch of
field goals, but I think if they

983
00:57:09.880 --> 00:57:13.280
can get into the end zone a
couple of times, they may have a

984
00:57:13.280 --> 00:57:19.000
fighter's chance. Alilettes here coming off
there by Calgary there that's intriguing too.

985
00:57:19.000 --> 00:57:22.000
I want to see Calgary again.
I was talking. We had Tim Kapper

986
00:57:22.079 --> 00:57:24.280
on the show talking the Arena Football
League. But you know Tim Chair and

987
00:57:24.400 --> 00:57:28.440
his thoughts, and he's really happy
with Cody and the Alilettes and everything.

988
00:57:28.519 --> 00:57:30.760
Their thoughts on that woman before we
get out, well, I think the

989
00:57:31.159 --> 00:57:36.320
both teams will probably be pretty desperate
coming into this game because I think,

990
00:57:36.679 --> 00:57:38.920
you know, Calgary obviously they're two
and four, and I think if they

991
00:57:38.960 --> 00:57:42.400
followed two and five. I mean, I think they were two and five

992
00:57:42.440 --> 00:57:44.920
a couple of years ago when they
were able to crawl back into it.

993
00:57:44.960 --> 00:57:47.840
But I think this would be a
very devastating loss for Calgary if they're gonna

994
00:57:47.840 --> 00:57:52.639
fall to two and five, and
I think for Montreal, with Ottawa suddenly

995
00:57:52.679 --> 00:57:55.320
going on a run here to three
and three, they would fall behind Ottawa

996
00:57:55.400 --> 00:57:59.440
with a loss and be right in
the mix there with Hamilton. So I

997
00:57:59.480 --> 00:58:01.320
think at the end of the day, this is a very important game for

998
00:58:01.360 --> 00:58:06.280
the standings. And I think the
two, you know, the games with

999
00:58:06.360 --> 00:58:09.960
Montreal and Calgary and Ottawa Hamilton,
those are the two games that have the

1000
00:58:10.000 --> 00:58:14.719
most consequence in terms of the standings. Next week, yeah, it should

1001
00:58:14.760 --> 00:58:16.639
be exciting. We're, like I
said, on vacation this week, so

1002
00:58:16.679 --> 00:58:21.440
we're gonna be We're gonna have the
XFL combines going on. They're streaming that.

1003
00:58:21.840 --> 00:58:23.239
Andy Murray is gonna be with me. I think we're gonna do nine

1004
00:58:23.280 --> 00:58:27.960
am live episode on Friday when I
get back, we'll do with the XFL

1005
00:58:28.039 --> 00:58:30.639
Combine recap, and then we'll do
a CFL Week eight previews. I think

1006
00:58:30.679 --> 00:58:34.960
that's what we're gonna do this week. Is for me trying to out here

1007
00:58:34.960 --> 00:58:37.159
in the woods and scheduling guests and
all that. I think we're gonna do

1008
00:58:37.199 --> 00:58:40.960
that. That'll be good to look
for the live episode Friday nine am coming

1009
00:58:42.000 --> 00:58:44.559
off. I think I was just
checking during the show. Last week was

1010
00:58:44.559 --> 00:58:46.960
our record high for viewership for the
stream, at least on our channel.

1011
00:58:47.000 --> 00:58:51.320
I know we co share that,
but you know we're getting the word out.

1012
00:58:51.360 --> 00:58:52.800
I think it's important to do this
every week. Jason, any other

1013
00:58:52.880 --> 00:58:58.480
thoughts from you about anything before we
get out now? Just another week in

1014
00:58:58.559 --> 00:59:00.920
the books and looking forward to next
week. Yeah, it should be good.

1015
00:59:01.039 --> 00:59:05.639
I Winnipeg on the buy here,
coming off a dominant win on that.

1016
00:59:05.719 --> 00:59:07.400
But yeah, I just I have
that circled with BC. I don't

1017
00:59:07.440 --> 00:59:13.920
want to see any traps on that. Last things on here, Oh Louis,

1018
00:59:14.039 --> 00:59:15.599
I guess we had a comment.
Do you think any of the games

1019
00:59:15.599 --> 00:59:21.840
are going to be really high scoring? Only Calgary Ottawa broke that BC Elks

1020
00:59:21.840 --> 00:59:23.239
game. I don't think it's gonna
be high scoring, especially with Dan in

1021
00:59:23.320 --> 00:59:27.400
there. Maybe maybe Calary Montreal runs
it up. I don't know. It

1022
00:59:27.440 --> 00:59:31.679
could be an interest in slightly James
here haying great show here comments I don't

1023
00:59:31.679 --> 00:59:36.480
like to get to the hour mark. Here were fifty nine thirties where we're

1024
00:59:36.559 --> 00:59:42.159
padding the time out here and coach
Craig Coach Craig Sports says, tray forward

1025
00:59:42.199 --> 00:59:44.840
season. They got to figure that
here. What if tray forward comes in

1026
00:59:44.920 --> 00:59:47.199
it just lights up the world against
BC. Yeah, they're gonna look so

1027
00:59:47.239 --> 00:59:51.440
stupid if that happens too, because
like, like, why did it take

1028
00:59:51.480 --> 00:59:54.079
this long? Yeah, it's kind
of a loser at this point. Jason,

1029
00:59:54.239 --> 00:59:59.039
Thanks God speed, Evan, safe
travels, and everything else that.

1030
00:59:59.079 --> 01:00:00.280
We'll see you next time. Eggs