It's it's hello. All right, let me just take this stuff done and
we'll get rocking and rolling here quickly. And okay, welcome back tonight.
I am presenting to you a and interviewed that I doesn't sound right an interview
that Quinn Heisler had conducted on his Vimeo channel, And he and I are
friends. He's been on my show before. I interviewed him here and he
wanted to talk about the book, so we did and some other stuff.
It got pretty interesting, pretty fun, just a fun interview all the way.
Why is this doing this? I don't care about that. Okay,
so before we get started though, let's prime it a little bit. Let's
have a little fun here. And yeah, you'll do that by doing this,
we have no time to regrad campus. When with his say oh say
bad, me and my hands and my team get on without my guys.
You went back to work. You know so far all that we went through,
and I had to trouble track. My heart stands. I go back
to black. You only several back words. I going the time you go
back to her side, go back, I go back to I love you,
moll. It's naughty. No you lock and load and lie. It
is a path and I'm a joy pendy rolling up the walls inside. We
always several backing words. I died a hundred times. You go back to
her when I go back, we always secle back words. Are died a
hundred times. You go back to her and go back. Le le leve
leve leve. I know bad, I know bad. Be on me said
glad, I died a couple of times. You go back to her,
go back. He only said, go by you. My did a hard
times. You go back to world. Wow, it's been a while.
Mhm. Rest in peace, Amy lighthouse and see what they find it there
is boom. Okay, now let me just get this to leave. Yeah,
that's right, and make sure I'm not on the screen again. All
right, here we go. Okay. This is Quinn Heisler on his Vimeo
channel interviewing me for the book. Hello. Hello, Merry Christmas, Happy
New Year to our viewers. I hope you're all having a wonderful holiday season.
I never say happy holidays, but just it's a happy Christmas, damn
it. Yes, yeah, sound like Bill O'Reilly Today I have Dan Christos
ball Busters b aa l Busters on Rumble he's on a myriad of different mediums.
Dan, what all platforms are you on? I don't even know him
by heart. Let's see, I have the small presence it shoot, but
I stopped, like I put something on there recently, but it had been
like nine months since I had done something on there. But so it's not
caught up to the regular channel. And uh so what do you call mostly
rumble? Mostly the Rumble is like the main channel. But I'm also on
joshutv dot com and that one's pretty current and it has the five years worth
of videos or maybe three I guess before I started getting deleted off of YouTube.
So all those ones that were deleted off YouTube are on joshu tv but
not on the Rumble channel. So when you got to kind of have both
of them if you want to catch all of this stuff, and if you
want to like see my progress. And I got a lot better than I
used to be. But some of them are germs. Some of them are
good. That's what Isn't that kind of the nature of this? Yeah,
Oh, I hope if you learn right, I hope you learn as you
go right. Well, practice my sometimes some people never get any better.
But I would say you're you got to remember a lot of us we don't
get a professional staff like I don't know, Anderson Cooper or Rachel Maddow or
Tucker Carlson and and Stueye Peters and freaking info Wars Steve Santa Studio. I
gotta say, is kind of pretty impressive. Mike Adams. I think that's
all his money too, Okay. Yeah, And even you know, I
again, even the independent media like Alex Jones, they have a staff,
they have researchers. We do not. And like I did this when you
said independent, not like how I did that. The quotations, that's that's
important. You're a smart guy. You've been on this journey for a while,
and so I would say you're set up. Delivery research is about as
good as anybody in in the authentically independent research, Uh what's the right word?
Independent thinking community. And so I mean that's yeah, to call somebody
a truth or even a patriot, because it's like kind of been made into
like a beam itself. Now it's like no, just people who like to
live in reality, you know, and they want to address the things that
are real rather than the propaganda that they want us to think is real,
you know, so I guess just human would be the word rather than you
know, I don't know, it's like you're a truther. I'm like,
okay, now you labeled me, so that puts you in a box,
limits what people will think of you, and then makes it so that somebody
later can come around like the FIBI and tell you that you're a domestic terrorist.
So I don't like labels for that reason, because then everybody's going to
be clustered into that label and marred with some kind of moniker like that,
you know, kind of like having us charge the tank with a spear and
right right, the Christian Zionism stuff, mm hmm, yeah, like everybod
are Christian nationalists. I'm sorry Christian nationalists, because that was actually a ploy
that was done years and years back, right for the same thing, same
reason, so that you could label everybody, diminish them, and then mark
THEMS domestic terrorists very much. So, yes, a lot of these fly
traps for people that are authentically trying to find solutions and intuitively don't trust a
lot of the mainstream sources. But then they're kind of I know, you
let Andrew Torba up on your Instagram as probably a while ago now, because
I was almost on your show a year ago. Oh well January, so
eleven months ago. But we're coming up and you've had his number for quite
some time. Yeah, he walked all the data that basically gave them access
to all of his users to nobody asked them to, which leads me to
believe he would probably working with them all along. But he walked them over
basically a backdoor that they could go in and spy on all of his users.
It's listening, you know, watching your your comments. Understood, it's
like profiling, you know, threat assessment for every single one of his people.
And I don't think anything is different about truth social to be honest with
you, because they did sick the FBI on a guy who is kind of
saying something maybe a little off key, but it should have been in jest.
Understood that he wasn't really going to go get his gilly suit and oil
his gun because Biden was coming into town. Now that guy's dead because the
FBI shot him at three am the Witching Hour. You have a new book
out, priest Craft. I'll read the full title here the there we go.
I have a kindle copy and if Kindle would quit quick Beyond Babylon,
we have uh, we have Bill Cooper on the cover with that not I
know, not isis it looks like a it's all. They consider that a
depiction of ball. That's a depiction of ball. Okay, yeah, okay,
Well it's work done. Did you do it yourself the on the cover?
Yeah I did well, yeah, everything's everything's in the house here.
I don't have a budget for anything else. That's but I'm impressed and as
I been going through and now I just want to our viewers. I'm not
trying to be rude, but I'm looking down. I'm just I did a
bunch of notes on my well Kindle on iPhone and so jealous of your chair.
I like your chair, like my chair. Yeah it's nice. You
seem very comfortable. Make fun of me. It's Martha Stewart from Macy's for
real. Yes, yes, she got life that is I like. Okay,
Martha, you and Snoop Dog when you're smoking pot did something right?
Okay. Now, I don't know if I didn't now, I'm not sure
I would have put her on the cover of Sports Illustrated at eighty one,
but that's you know, at least she has a female genitalia, So I
guess parts illustrated these days, there was I saw something about miss no yeah,
miss France the pageantry, and there was a complaint that she had her
hair was too short and all the comments. I was looking, yep,
be thankful that short hair is the only thing that she had. Me.
We're lucky she doesn't have a scrow them, so just count your blessings.
Yeah s, I sounds an awful out like sy up, doesn't it?
Sports Illustrated, Well, I was. I'm trying to think of when they
I don't know. I guess I go back and perhaps I know the qan
like the people say Chrissy Teagan is the trans crowd. I don't really follow
that stuff. I don't think it's very I look for things that bring more
clarity, not less. So I had somebody say that west See. I
knew they were a sigh up when they put Chrissy t g on the cover
because she's not really a woman like okay, let's let's not get that's a
little over baked, take the cake out of the oven. But more or
less, yes, I agree that Sports Illustrated it's not a publication I would
subscribe to. So for that aside on Martha, who is doctor Alfonso Manzo.
Doctor Alfonso Manzo is a good friend of mine. He actually hold on
one second over here on he wrote this book called the Leftoff Body System,
and what he's showing in here is basically the electric magnetive body and how pathways
can get you know, disrupted. So you're talking about the energetic you know,
magnetic field of the body, thetorial field that is generated energetics. Everybody
knows that your body clicks on spark of life electricity. So what he's showing
is that, you know, things have been impeding us. And because it
don't teach us this stuff, it's the way they kind of that this is
really what our what our natural healing or our defense mechanism is. It's something
that's self generated. The body has intelligence, it has a spiritual presence,
it's powerful and alf tof means like the A T Z bodies system. And
what you're looking at here is the Hebrew letters uh kind of well at least
what their meaning is kind of corresponding with pathways and points on the body.
It's not exactly like what do you call it Chinese medicine because it's that's kind
of limited in understanding then what he has come up with, you know,
come to understand and learn. So he's you know, twelve years of his
life put into this book. He's also electrical engineer, so that helps.
He's kind of like a living Nikola Tesla and I have, you know,
for the for the most part, it done everything I can to introduce him
to more people and our group and uh on telegram, I actually renamed it
instead of just calling it ball Busters, I called it Friends of Doctor Monzo
and Ballbusters and a lot of his practitioners are actually in that group and doctor
Monso is a member of the group too, so he answers questions as well.
He's a natural path. Yeah, yeah, he's an end So it's
more comprehensive than tai Chie and I'm sorry not tai Cheat. Well, I
mean, I guess I could. I mean Taoist. What's the system the
Taoist medicine, if you will, I'm trying to think about that if I'm
saying that correctly. But so you're saying this is more all encompassing. Yeah,
let me see if I have the notes from our last discussion because there's
something that he said that I easier if I could just look back at because
I'm not going to remember the actual word he used. It's probably not in
here. I met him in Salt Lake City. Now, yeah, I
met him in Salt Lake City, but we had known each other from conversations
prior to that, But that was the first time I met him in person.
That's sorry. And that's when he gave me the book book, the
elf Taft Body System. And yeah, we've been close associates, friends,
affiliates ever since then. Great guy doing a lot of work to help people.
And if people don't believe this stuff, like it's like a positive and
negative on your hands, it's like touch, right, like you know,
laying of hands something that's also biblical, right, But there's a positive and
negative. And if you're trying to reverse a flow, you've got to think
of it like a spiral, like a vortex, like spinning right, because
it's a it's a magnetic field, just like a TROIDL would have like the
hyperboloid in the center where it's kind of twisting the doughnut. It's center,
the center of the doughnut. Really, so when you're making this, it
depends on which side you put which hand, whether it's you know, extracting
so you're pulling toxins out, or if it's kind of add energy into a
certain area to really you know, make the pathway connect again. So there's
it's a very it's hard for me to explain. He's the better. He's
better at doing it than I am, obviously, but it's it's very interesting
stuff and a lot of people have many testimonials of having this stuff work.
And when you do it with different types of equipment that he's actually developed,
it can happen quicker than just the human energy of you know, just one
person on you know, working on you. So it's pretty it's pretty interesting.
And there's other things that he uses like light and frequency and frequency imprinting
and stuff like that, so it gets very interesting. Sure, Okay,
I gotta watch those I don't mean to. What I don't like to do
is have a guest on and have them repeat themselves something they've talked about endlessly.
So it sounds like he's a regular. I don't know if he's been
on as much as doctor artists. No doctor artist has the has the award
for that. He was on at least forty times. That's wonderful. I
heard that he might be coming back on again for like a monthly rather than
a weekly. If it happens, it happens, I don't know. Sure.
There's some interesting talks we had about my Mormonism and stuff like that,
though, got into Joseph Smith a little. Those are some interesting map up.
What's that alphons that we're talking about? No doctor, doctor, artists,
artists, Mormonism. I'm sorry, okay, I'm glad he was.
He's a fourth generation, but he got up, no kidding. The claim
is that he got out of it, So I mean I didn't know that.
Mm hmm, oh shit. Yeah, Well because he got he's got
some insights on there, so he was first hand. He knows that's what
goes on Saturday Saints and SRA is very very uh that those two things intertwined,
especially lately chocolate and vanillas or something, peanut butter and chalk or something.
Things that things that go together, right, yes, are kind of
synonymous. So on that note, just because you have somebody on as a
guest, of course, doesn't mean I hate that phrase or the thing.
Oh I don't agree with everything my guest says, because usually people are saying
that when they're trying to get out of something, or if they're trying to
save their own ass. So I don't like when it's used for craven reasons.
But really we usually don't agree with everything a guest says, or we
don't know what they're just saying until they say it. Why to give you
an example of why you might not, so you might not totally trust artists,
am I No, that's not it, that's not true. No,
I don't think that's the thing. He's a good guy. I actually meant
him too. Over at the three Awaken tour, which his him and his
uh whatever you call or his book or whatever. It actually got me the
past to go as media to go check out the event. So that was
interesting. I talked to unless I talked to I don't even remember anymore.
I saw a lot of people I talk I saw Judy, Mike Rowitz as
h Well. I heard step Peters on stage, Roseanne bar all these people.
So Roseanne is playing playing a game. I'll just say it that way.
China trying to call in the Christians into her. You know, we're
the same because we're Jews now, it's not. Yeah, what she was
promoting a podcast that she has now with a video channel on Rumble, So
that was why she was there. I'm surprised they've repurposed her for this new
role of like, what are you gonna say, America's talmuditk grandma or whatever.
I guess, Well she's so she's everywhere again. M h. It's
like the tweet she was doing this a happle of years ago too, kind
of primating the pump for it. Yeah. Yeah, I mean she's always
on every QAnon wan oh Saban she had. I mean, she's always in
every sie she seems to. They use her constantly, and for some reason
I didn't know after the implosion, and even that I view now, I
don't like to subscribe to the okay, it's I mean, I don't like
when conservatives get canceled or liberals get canced. But she was she is a
chaos agent, and she was trying to instigate racial animosity in America. That's
what she's programmed for and she's very very good at it. And so she
said something on Ambient or probably on one of her programmers that she knew full
well, was fucking crazy and it worked. And so that's where I just
I'm at the point, and conservatives take the bait on that kind of stuff
and it just garge me. What else I gotta say? You brought up
something that made me think, oh so the show itself, even in its
original form, it was propaganda that was anti family, right. I mean,
we're talking about people who don't appreciate each other, with negative attitudes towards
one another, who are always down in the dumps, you know, sapping
energy like vampires from one another, and always saying rude, horrible things that
would hurt people's feelings if they had feelings throughout the whole show. Her sitcom,
you mean, yeah, oh that's a great point. What does she
say to Dan? He's like, you ever you ever regret getting married?
Every second of my life? Like, it's just that. And it was
kind of giggling. But even though if I laughs at thought it now it's
now it's funny. And idiots who watched that then think that that's how you
behave and then ruins their families too, you know. Trailer trash. Basically,
it's like low level. They're all so passive, aggressive and they're also
again they're just there's no unhappy person on that show. They're all melancholy.
You're right. Oh wow, that's a great point. And even that was
considered. Wow. I always I mean, of course I realized that she
was the whole Connor family was pretty miserable. But I think I highlighted that.
I'll go back to it later, that passage, because you're exactly right,
because it they were trying to almost normalize to Oh, everybody talks to
each other like that. Everybody's dysfunctional. Everybody verbally abuses their children and their
spouse. No, not really, And in the subconscious, this is what
buried life is like. This is what having children does to you, right
right, This is your hot this is your future if you decide to get
married and have children's that's what the subliminal is here is catching wow. Wow,
good, that's amazing. So you have been You've had Alex Jones's number
for ages and ages. What do you make of I don't like, I
mean, I know who Tucker is. I'll say it that way. What
do you make of Tucker and Alex's pair up? I don't part of it's
part of another scheme on people Tucker is going to be moved into protect potentially
politics, or Jones will be taking a role in it at some point.
I feel this whole Alex Jewones was the right thing annoys me first, And
just to clarify, I don't necessarily mean that they're going to run for something.
I just mean that they're going to be proponents for whomever they're going to
be promoting into that position. And they're legitimizing themselves right now to put themselves
in that in that space, to be the go tos for that type of
information to attract that certain crowd. And of course I'm probably talking about Trump
here first. Just let me start with that, because that is indirect defiance
and ignorance, and if it's flipping people like Bill Cooper in their grave because
his July premonition of the nine to eleven attacks, you know, saying that
in June, that's when Bill Cooper on the Hour of the Time, which
obviously is either Jones's people or himself, paid attention to aligned it all out
that a CNN news crew found Osama bin Laden when the CIA and the FBI,
who you know, reportedly have been searching for him forever. The entire
you know, US Intelligence Service couldn't find them, but a CNN news crew
were able to find him in a cave and interview him. And that's that's
supposed to be legitimate, right, CNN, CIA, whatever. But the
whole point is they found him, and then what from that conversation you know
that they had and that that that that story. Cooper said, they're going
to do something. It's going to be big, and they're going to belive
him on lone, but it won't be him. He said that directly,
and then all of a sudden, Jones comes out two weeks later and says
the same thing. Bill Cooper's dead at by November fifth, two thousand and
one. And now people are saying Alex Jones was right and he predicted all
this stuff. No, he stole everything that he said, quote unquote predicted
because he had people. If you're wondering why my eyes are darting around,
I can't look at Quinn without it looking like I'm looking away. And I
kept on trying to readjust for that so it didn't look like I was looking
away from the host. But I'm flipped in like a mirrored position on the
on the screen. So every time I caught it. When I was looking
at myself on the screen, I tried to adjust and I just kept on
my you know, my squirrel brain was just going back and forth with that.
But like Bill Cooper out there, the whole reason why Bill, people
like Alex Jones were actually artificially inflated and brought up were to take attention away
from people like Bill Cooper so that people were learning truth but in a controlled
way inside of the box because they control that. That's controlled opposition. When
you have people like Bill Cooper, you never know what they're gonna say because
they're not tied down by anything. So let's get the information, let's get
the attention away from Bill, and let's boost up Alex, commercialize the hell
out of them, make money while we do it, and you know,
promote him to the hill. And that's what they did, you know,
know, the Bill Cooper Alex Jones, what do you want to call it?
Twin or that's not that Alex Jones is Bill Cooper just his second No,
I think I think you're thinking of people saying that about him and Bill
Hicks, right, Hicks. I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry,
I'm sorry. Yeah, which is complete nonsense. That's another lie. What
they seem to have the same friend and they're both from Texas. Big deal.
Now, Bill Hicks died of what do you call it, pancreatic cancer.
He was skinny as a real You can look at younger pictures of Bill
Hicks. He has doesn't have the same body frame whatsoever as Alex Jones.
Alex Jones was built kind of really well, you know, in a for
a brief peer you have time, I've got pictures of it. And when
you look at the same pictures of Bill Hicks at the same age, at
the same quote unquote time in their life, he's a skinny little rail and
you know, completely different lives. I you know what, to be honest
with you, do you know what Alex Jones really looks like. He was
very fit for somebody who is in some kind of service, like an agent
to some sort of some sort of thing or a soldier. So you know,
that's no that might that might actually that might actually show you a little
bit of something about where he came from. And no disrespect, but a
lot of them this is anecdotal. I don't have research on this, but
a lot of servicemen after that kind of training kind of just say fuck it
and let themselves go. That's like seems like kind of the trajectory. You
know, what the hell happened to that guy? I don't even know if
the same Alex Jones, but he's definitely not Bill Hicks, That's all I'm
gonna say. And that's why I was with his voice too. Is he
have like does he have like like larnx cancer, Like, what the hell's
going up with that? I think that's I mean, he well, he's
gonna have some. I mean, I'm sure he has nodules. I'm sure
being a singer, I'm sure he has a singer. Who oh you just
said not Alex. Yeah, yeah, Alex Jones. I was talking about
right right, Well, you're saying you're being you Okay, never mind,
let me let me smack it up and let you finish what you're saying.
Sorry, you're my guest. You can interrupt what you want. That's what
having somebody on it is about it and interrupting it and just just kid you
know, shooting, I'm sorry, I'm jo you didn't do anything. What
was it? Uh? Oh? Yes, But being a vocalist, I
can tell you very much that it's like it's the chicken in the egg.
I think he talks like that because when you're perhaps on some substance I'm not
I don't know. Corect could be a lot of things. When you're hyped
up, when you're outside, when you're acting like a lunatic, when you're
talking out your ass, you tend to not speak in your nature. You
tend to go you trying to tend to push down and sound more authoritative.
You send or I'm trying to think somebody who talks like talks really uh Kamala.
She tries to copy Barack Obama's cadence and today and today and then and
then she ends up sound sounding like a well, she sounds like a buffoon,
because she is one. Whenever you are trying to fake something, it
comes out in the vocal cords. I really believe that. And so God.
The things that Alex has lied about, the things that he's misinterpreted,
the things he's misrepresented are endlessly and I think the subconscious shows up in the
larynx. You know that's another thing too. When you say everything, not
all of it's true, but you're bound to get something. If you throw
enough shit at the wall and excuse me. But that's what he does too.
How about all the things he was completely one a lunatic about like two
thousand y twok that missiles were launched by Russia and this is the end of
the world and all this other stuff. Does everybody forget about that where he
tried to he had people panicking. There were people in their cars trying to
drive away from their towns on y two k because of him causing basically like
a war of the world's type of crisis, except we don't know if anybody
died when Elex Jones got everybody panicked. And he did the same thing in
twenty twelve with the Mayan calendar stuff. And it's always to sell more crap,
like you know, dehydrated food and water filtration systems and what are we
doing again? You know? I mean, there's there's a good reason to
be self sufficient all the time. But he's definitely capitalizing on that fear,
that fear propaganda than the fear mongering so on h so and cultivated a point
that's interesting to me about when her she predicted, Oh Tucker's kind of kind
of fall by the wayside, she goes, that's good real estate, and
she doesn't quite buy into some of the stuff that we do. She goes,
oh, I think it's just prime real estate. At eight PM show,
Bill Riley is has been now Megan Kelly, she has. I mean
they're around. I'm not saying they totally vanished, but most of the people
that have those primetime spots. Tucker's on Rumble now, but kind of the
same thing. I don't. I know they're oh, he's off Fox now,
they're going to repurpose him. Of course, perhaps you know, you
know, he's from an affluent family and his father was like a intelligence agent,
right his buddy, his buddy was hundred hundred Biden. I should tell
you all the kind of mixed people he has around him. But I don't
think they're going to run him the VP talk not maybe not maybe not now,
But I think they're priming that. It's it's things takes a lot of
time to set up, and I think I think what they're cycling through,
and you know, they have money holes in the fire, what do you
call irons in the fire. Doesn't mean they're gonna they're gonna activate all of
them, but what they're what they're doing right now by setting this up is
it's like this all goes to support the fake notion that Trump is returning.
You know, oh my god, the Savior is coming back, the same
guy who did warp speed and said some horrible things recently about terrorism, and
we should all support Israel who's murdering people at mass scale right now, because
you know, you know where he's lied. You know he's got he's got
the uh, the Federal Reserve bankers. I could just say, rothschilds pulling
his strings just like every other president. We don't get people we get.
We can pick between Federal Reserve uh what do you call it? Uh?
Candidates, and that's we're still going to get the same crap, just in
a different fashion. At the end of the day, we don't really have
a government, not since nineteen thirty three. What is Operation snow White.
Oh, that's like one of the smallest things I said. That's at the
back of the book. That was that was a what do you call it?
A scientology kind of like an operation from l Ron Hubbard and involved his
wife, lots of other people. They were stealing documents and getting rid of
negative data on the church of scientology, and they were infiltrating government agencies to
do so, to steal this stuff out, kind of like their own little
Watergate situation. That's that's that's the generic summary of that. But there's more
to it that might actually become a topic in the next book. Right,
I'm going to write that down because I'm interested. Yeah, just if you
just look at Wikipedia, start there and you get the BS version of it,
the water down version. But then you'll a least know where to where
to look for like to see, you know, to go find other stuff
about it. Like I sometimes will reference Wikipedia just to make fun of it.
Wikipedi, I think, is how Competitivilia? Yet? That did spell
check catch that? That's but there's a line through it. That's where you
know, liability issues. Oh, for god's sake, well, where were
we? Okay, yes, we're grown men here, we're here to That's
You've got so many good things. I just want to stay on topic a
little bit because I don't want to jump around too much. Oh you got
to hear from me again, Quinn. Yeah, Well, it's been a
while. I know, it's Ben Man. We talk fairly regularly. I
know when I was in Italy. We talked a little bit, but I
know it's I haven't really seen you face to face. Oh, it is
always nice because you're fighting the good fight. Oh, we didn't cover the
demonology of the agents fully the Veda gods. What if you I don't know
if you come to a conclusion in the end of the book on this.
But the Vedic gods, the Indo Aryan, I've heard a lot of difference
hypotheses on this, that they were co opted by the Phonetians and then the
Greeks and the western is the Celts. What's your take on the Vedic god?
I think I think Carthage and the Phoenicians inside on. I think that
was after the Cannonites. So the Cannonites actually had Veda gods too, apparently.
What I what I think if if the migration that Asha logos kind of
puts, you know, puts up as a potentiality, is that the Scythians
slash Nordic whatever, where the hell, wherever the hell they came from.
Right, there were some of those people that broke away from the core group
that didn't like the idea that they basically rejected the marketplace, that they didn't
want to be materialistic, that they wanted to be close knit, family oriented,
noblemen, and they said that were going on our own way. And
I think it's possible that they actually settled in Babylon in places like that,
in that area and did what they did, and they may even have manifested
as the Kazars in Russia. It's possible, because I don't I don't have
enough information on that one. Yeah, that's why that's also for the next
book. But I'm interested in that topic because, like Theodoric sounds like a
very noble man, and it's nice to at least think that there was a
nobility in this world at some point between the Goths who actually fought with Rome
for Rome for a while until they were also screwed over by them not understanding.
It was like the invention of lying. Do you ever see that movie
with Ricky Gervais where it's like a it's like a it's a it's a fictional
world where lying never never was a thing, and then when he starts telling
lies, it's like people just believe because there's nobody lives. It's almost like
that scenario played out in history where these groups of people that were considered Scythian
slash Goths were always taken by surprise by people who would be as devious and
deceptive as they were, and because that wasn't in their nature, and that's
pretty much how they got wiped out. I mean, there was a time
when the Visigoths were betrayed by the Jews, whatever you want to call them.
If they were Jews, if they were Turks that were Jews, if
they were Kazars that were Jews, whatever the hell they are, because Jew
wasn't even a word in the Bible. I just learned that from the rain
Day that that's not even a thing they were. But we'll get in in
the Israelite thing was a state of mind. But anyway, we'll get back
into that similar time. But where was I What was I talking about?
Oh? Yeah, so they actually opened up the gates for the for the
Muslim Ottomans to come in and basically murder them all they have them in their
community. They accepted them in and they betrayed them. Letting them in to
slaughter them is to constantinople or where we're talking about exactly a son of a
bitch, I don't know. Astral Logos is the best place to check that
out though, because his playlist. In his playlist, you'll see it.
But he goes through the Visigoths, the one that that talks about Theodoric goes
through that history specifically, and you'll find out where that was. But it
was one of those things where whoever they were, if they were you know,
Jews by name only, they were crypto whatever, but they were the
ones that they were accepted into the community, into the into the kingdom,
and they're the ones who opened the gates. And it made me think of
something that had happened recently, letting open sixteen pass you know, pathways into
Israel to have them screwed, and then also having the idea, you know,
it's really defense for it's basically the ones who are actually killing all the
people with their tanks and all that stuff. Yes, a lot of these
things. I'm not trying to put you on the spot because you're very humble
that you say, we'll maybe get to this and another book, we'll explore
the more later, or you give credit where it's due, which is very
important to Asha Logos. So he said, yeah, that that that playlist,
there's only one. There's only one playlist on his playlist tab. And
I think it's like a twelve part series. But when you start talking about
theotoric, that's that's where the visit gods are talking about. But he kind
of starts from the from the very first one and kind of follow these people
through history, finding the old ancient books that are out of print and buried
away and omitted from what we if we just have a you know, public
school understanding of history, would ever see. And he puts this in the
in the in the con the proper context to say, there's this whole group
of people that have been pretty much wiped out of history, and the name
arian has been turned into a dirty word, and it's really well, then
fine, call them Scythians, call them goths, call them whatever the hell
you want that makes you feel better. But these were not all you know,
like I said, some of them broke off and did their own thing,
completely against what the core of the group was actually you know about.
And again I have to do like serious research on this to actually get the
details down and find tune because a lot of things that I catch cursory,
I will find that the truth is somewhere in the middle. You know,
so I agree. I feel like that's been kind of co opted, not
overtly, but by Lawrence Gardner, David Ike, Nicholas de Vier, the
guy who wrote the what the hell was it about the Dragon Blood Lines?
Oh? Can I say one more quick thing about the Goths, real quick
or the So the Germanic people themselves are descendants of this group, right.
They had been hunted throughout history. They had been targeted. They were targeted
heavily in the First War, First World War, in the Second World War.
They were demonized. They were exterminated practically in nineteen forty five when they
were all set in an open field and starved to death like eight to ten
whatever numbers you want to believe. But Other Losses is a book that you
can at least they'll claim three or four million, but it could have been
much higher than that. And this is under General Eisenhower, who starved Germanic
people to death just because post War forty five to forty nine, millions and
millions of people were started as if people will try to give them food,
they were shot. They just they tortured these people to death of starvation,
random killings. This was the true holocaust of the war and oh yeah,
I'm sorry Dresden resident. Yep, I've seen that percolate. Should I say
this thing right now? I'm not sure we're gonna share this. But another
thing that a lot of people don't like. If you understand that the symbolism
of the Templars, the Rosicrucians red, you know, the Red Cross,
the Red Cross itself. By the time World War one and two kicked off,
these were fronted by literal direct roth Child family, not just the proxy
someone controlling. And these were Rothschilds that were in the forefront of this.
The Rothschilds were allowed into the I'm sorry, the Red Cross was allowed into
the camps, which were work camps. Okay. And that's the other distinction
there. If they wanted to kill them off, they would have just lift
them on fire right freaking there. They would have brought them all over the
place, you know, they wouldn't have you know, maternity wards pools and
all this other stuff. And I think you've talked to David Cole, so
I think you understand where I'm getting at there. But they let them in,
they administered vaccines because they were allowed to look in and see if how
they were doing right, So the Germans had nothing to hide. They were
like, yeah, you're going when they did that, they administered these vaccines
and next thing you know, people are dying of what they considered typhus because
it was some bug. Even the Germans were convinced of this, so they
started fumigating their clothing when they came into the camp, and that's where you
get all the gas from, but in the piles. And also ever since
the black plague, which actually is a very suspicious thing as well lubonic plague,
the way they try to limit the spread or contagion that they believed was
a contagion was to burn the dead bodies of the infected. So that's a
stratagem that has been going on for centuries. If you think that there's a
breakout, you cleanse basically by burning the contaminated flesh so that it doesn't cause
more death. Jews and all that stuff. They were they were cleaning it
because they were they were like delousing it, right. But the people hundreds
of thousands of people died from what they considered typhus. But it was a
vaccine holocaust and it was done by the Rothschilds to get a body count.
We're talking Jew. Okay, we're talking juwan jew murder, jewan jew murder
if you want to consider Rothschild an actual Jew, because if he's a Frankist,
does Cole really go okay, I like it? Well, I don't
know. No, I'm going to beyond what Cole would say. Oh okay,
yeah, No, No, I'm not. I'm just saying that those
other aspects fall into place in this more aggressive approach to the history that I'm
presenting here. Well, and David's become I like David a lot. I
think he's hysterical. We tracted an awful lot too. Well, he's kind
of become a home monitor for any I mean, it's a little bizarre for
the man who used to go on Jerry Springer and television shows of that caliber
and to talk about Donna Hue get kicked off or either he got kicked off
or he decided to leave from downing Hue that one time because he threw a
coffee cup at at a chair. He told me that story up when I
had him on. But he's he said something in a recent article about sometimes
it is a little I'm gonna read the quote if you don't mind because he
says he doesn't like the people use his work to say that the Holocaust never
happened, because he's saying that other camps did. And where I was.
What I would add to that is that Communism was the actual target of what
the Germans were doing, because they were already in There's rabbis who back that
up, who read the actual writings of Hitler and they admit that. And
these are non Zionist Jews that are saying this, that Hitler was trying to
contain Communism from spreading in his country, and there there was multiple threats and
attempts already to overthrow the government there and install Bolshevik Communism. And because they
were allied. When I say they, I'm referring to, you know,
the Jewish people of that there was no distinction really between Communism and Jewish because
the vast majority of them were fellow travelers or sympathizing and they would take their
marching orders from the heads of their religion right, and they would if they
weren't already in commerce with you know, the Rothschilds and whatnot in some way,
shape or form, then they would still be sympathetic to that, and
that was part of what you're trying to contain. And the actual insurgent ones
probably were lined up and shot infiltrated. They already had an attempt of a
coup because of the Communists, reads the Free Corps, free Corps, maybe
the Free Corps, the uh, what do you call it, the veterans
of the First War. They were they assembled like a militia and actually fought
them off. So the Free Corps would be a great example of how a
militia can stop intrusions infiltrators and things of that nature. But if you just
look at what happened post war World War One with Berlin, that was all
j word perversion. When they started quote unquote burning books, they were burning.
One more thing to clarify here, if you look at the video I
repurposed of Sir Patrick Max Pop I think it's number two or three. He
goes into detail about the perversions and the degradation of Berlin at that time,
and that was all Communists influenced people who had moved in and pretty much degraded
the morals and values pedophilia, prostitution, pornography. Berlin was a cesspool after
World War One, and part of what the regime did was it cleaned that
up and a lot of this pornography and it just means not necessarily just pictures,
but books with you know, promoting deviant lifestyles and degradation were burned,
all the pornography that had flooded Germany. So it is what it is.
I will well, I've heard I'm not saying they were saints, but they
but they were literally targeting communists. It just so happens that ninety nine point
ninety nine percent of the Communists were also Jewish. No, and communism is
quite frankly, I mean a Jewish revolutionary activity. E. Michael Jones wrote
and tire book about that. Well, also Jesuits kind of brought that out
too, because you have the the what we call the reductions of Paraguay.
But really socialism and communism came straight from the mystery schools, and so did
mind control. That was all straight out of the Babylonian time period. It
just has different names in different manifestations over history. What I where I think,
I what I can't stand about a lot of the nas bolt white supremacists
go to rats is that I mean, no, I hate all that shit
too. I'm not a whiteis by any means. It's just a cult.
Like I think that's actually a sy up too. I think that whole white
supremacy thing, like I know specifically people who dress up like that have the
shaped head in the black Stung God. They all look like cliche idiots,
right, they almost look like Cholo's but they're white, you know, with
the with the white tank top and the freaking baggy pants. A lot of
those people are agents, agent provocateurs, oh rats up. They're trying to
bring about an image so that they can get more people to get involved in
those groups, so that they can then target them. I've never seen a
group of people that are so desperate, like begging the Feds to like,
please please, I'll be your bottom, be my top. I've never seen
people so separate rammed by federal agents. I'm I'm I mean, uh,
not literally figuratively, maybe literally too. I don't know them that way.
The whole Proud Boys thing, even though I'm not considered them white supremacists,
But that's another that's another honeypot, which is what is it the other honey
the proud poise. So, like I said, I'm not saying the white
supremacist by any means. But they're there to suck people into it, just
like any other thing that you sign and you know, you get vetted for
and you sign signed paper for Now you're part of the group. Now you
can be. Now you can be you know, targeted by the FEDS.
That's all they're trying to do is suck people in. But that's off fed
run. But just like J six David said, the two different hippie chicks
tried to pepper forward with bullets and the big stiff dummy didn't get hit once.
No conspiracies about that, I said to him, who was that?
In reference to Sorry Gerald Ford, one of Manson's girls tried to kill him
in nineteen seventy five. Did you know that? Yeah, yeah, they
got pretty close. I mean, oh okay, okay, yeah, yeah,
okay, in physical proximity. I was able to shoot or anything.
That was all ciam run too. The whole Manson thing was a freaking experiment.
Well that's what I say to David in the twist, that there are
no conspiracies about Squeaky Frome. Manson is the subject to countless mk ultra conspiracy
theories, David. He says to me, please, you're smarter than that.
I'm not referring to Manson, but from and more. There are plenty
of conspiracy theories about Manson, but no significant ones about the two hippie chicks
assassination. Well where do you think they came from? Right? You should
just like, well, but what do you think they were conditioned to do
this type of stuff? That? Well, I know and I don't.
All I said to him was and then he said, please, please,
you're smarter than that, as a way to kind of maybe get me to
drop it. Yeah, okay, but if and then he said, okay,
the next thing he said, my late publisher Adam Parfrey was a Manson
conspiracy buff. Whatever Manson's origin story, he really did have a knack for
spotting weak minded hippie chicks he could control. Well, there was a reason
that used him, of course, but that's not He was also getting cornholed
by a bunch of men who were in politics. So if you if you
believe the if you believe some of the stuff that came out in that fictional
show called The Age of Aquarius that had David d'covney in it, they point
him as being quite the quite the uh the male prostitute. One can argue
Manson's motives, but from and More really were just dumb devoted followers. Okay,
David though of Manson or of the sy op that was going on there.
Okay, where I do I think we defend and I like him a
lot, But where I'm getting kind of weird vibes is why he's become such
a scold over like, how would I mean? Okay, but for him
to say that's I'm so sick of q and On conspiracy. How is it
conspiracy? I'm sick of q Andon's conspiracy too, because it didn't lead anywhere
on that's not I don't know, right, that's not right. Yeah,
But the time O'Neil book about Manson and the public Defender, I forget,
I can't think of a name. But all of that's gone pretty mainstream,
so I don't know, Like he was just labeling it as q and On
stuff to kind of like, again, slap a label on it and so
you can dismiss it, right, So people will be like, oh,
q Andon, never mind, that's garbage. Well only because the just like
he, they just want to shut the oh just two random girls who even
were the devotees of this, like you said this, Uh, sorry to
interrupt, Okay, never mind, I'll go back to that. What do
you wanna call manson this? This like charming man who was even more charming
when you were jacked up by an LSD and methanphetamines. Yes, David called
him Chucky the Chad. I wouldn't call him. I don't really chucky sounds.
Oh and and failed musician, even though he wrote songs for the for
the Beach Boys, right boys. Yeah, well on that too, because
I love Brian Wilson. I'm pretty convinced the Beach Boys were an intel operation,
a very good intel operation. I'm not saying they didn't have some it's
operations are easier when you take agents that have talent. I think that's fair
to say, kind of like the Grateful Dad who had no talent, but
they still somehow made something out of that. Correct. Just about every one
of their fathers was then either some form of intelligence agency, FBI or whatnot.
If you look at the the parents of the Grateful Dead members, you'll
see what I mean. Yeah, I don't know, I don't know what
calls about these days. I'm not really I guess I wasn't trying to like,
well, well, I guess after this show, I won't even get
him on because they'll probably see this. Okay, okay, that's where If
that's the case, then I'm dis messing with. I don't really have any
desire. But I think he's cool. I've actually used his older stuff from
the nineties, especially the ones with that other German Man who he toured Al
Schwitz with unger Yes, okay, yeah, too bad, he's pasted it.
But he's a But yeah, I kind of you know. I brought
that out in a video that I did covering Sir Patrick Max from in Pursuit
of Truths five part documentary, and when he goes into the World War two
stuff and he starts talking about the Bullsheviks and stuff like that, I bring
back clips of that and I actually in into play that with his documentary as
I'm as I'm doing my own presentation of it. Hey, buddy, yeah,
I well what I was. I know you're just joking. But truthfully,
if he's that, he's not sensitive and he's always scolding Trumpsters for their
cultishness and their fragility. So I was just just asking his you know,
his intentions. So if that deters him, that's really unfortunate because he's always
correcting people and saying that's ridiculous. You're an adult. You should be able
to take a little bit of of you know, rough and tumble. And
I agree with him, So I hope he takes his own advice. Sure,
So, oh, I know that he had to vet you through.
Uh, what's their name that you mentioned earlier? It's his friend. You
guys have a mutetu? What about it? I heard about it, you
through, and so now I know what you're Okay, you remember and you
said that, yes, they're they're really I'm this. They are sure that
he has friends that are so close to the whole conservatorial thing that he would,
you know, and then bash the same group of people because they are
kind of affiliated with Trump, aren't they. Well, he's a total DeSantis
fan at this point. Well, DeSantis is over in Israel making anti Semitism
a crime, you know, solidifying that he was also Zionist man in the
year either twenty nineteen or two thousand others something I don't know. Well,
David never got into Palestinian advocate. I think he's always been better. I'm
just telling you what DeSantis is doing. So that's interesting that he would also
be a dysantis. You know, well, it's people, I think some
of the some people I think assume that David was going to be sympathetic to
the Palestinian cause because of his background. No, not at least, but
no, quite the opposite. Actually, at least that's my observable. That's
being okay with the mass murder of people so that you can get shell oil
out of the ground and demolish and bulldoze the ship to the ground. That
have you seen some of the videos where they're stabbing people to death just for
their own amusement. Those were citizens. They weren't quote unquote terrorists. They
already killed all the terrorists. They're not being bombed by anybody. They're just
using it as an excuse to continue to annihilate and genocide these people so they
can have that land. But I you know what, I think everybody who's
taken pleasure in that is going to understand soon enough that that nation of Israel
was created to be a offering. And I think that's going to happen soon.
That's going to be another that's gonna be a sacrificial ground so that they
can renew this whole Holocaust sympathy because nobody has it anymore, and they're going
to annihilate their own people, and a lot of them are going to be
Orthodox. I'm not sure the dox are not even Zionanason. That's what well
Cole will push. He'll he'll take things, he'll give you examples that still
keep you in the mainstream. What I mean is that he's very adamant that
Simon Weisenthal was kind of not very diligent when his research because and he gave
me that Washington Post article from the early eighties when the federal government had to
pay out the Polish man who Bisenthal's organization accused of being a Nazi war criminal
and it turned out he had no connection, he was not an It was
totally bogus and just the people say over zels, but kind of just half
assed, like pink panther investigative skills that as an inspector crucille pretty much and
the fact that the federal government took those here as holy holy rid, we're
just appalling. And so that's where he'll go. Yes, I mean that
in the fact that nobody really knows that Bisonthel was behind the persecution of this
man based on totally false evidences, you know, not acceptable. And that's
where David I do appreciate. Yea, He'll say, so, does David
have have lenencies towards Zionism or or like sympathies towards that, because well,
he doesn't have any use for the Plo. I'll tell you that. And
I don't think, okay, I don't think there's it. I don't think
you have to be pro plo or anti. I mean, you don't have
to be one or the other. You know what I mean. I'm talking
about Zionism and specifically like creating a nation, forcing it, forcing it instead
of letting it happen naturally from God and setting up the conditions for the redemption
or the end of days with the Messiah to return forcibly, rather than have
it be organic through people's evolution and their own minds coming to terms with what,
you know, what their purpose is in natural way forcing it. Where
you're looking at the Saboteen Francists putting forth that, because that was straight out
of the Lurian Kabbala. That's what you know, what do you call it,
called to action chews to take a active role in the redemption, and
that would mean they had to set the conditions. Well, it's a whole
lot easier to make everybody corrupt and evil than it is to make them all
good. So they went to the other route. And the Francists are exactly
who are involved in all of this that we're seeing right now. Rothschilds converted
to Frankism, the Moravian Brethren, the Plymouth Brethren, the what do you
call it, the Exclusive Brethren, All these people, these were all crypto
Sabatan cults that became Christianized when they pretended to be all baptized and converted to
Christianity during the seventeen fifties, with Jacob Frank also being baptized. So Sabbatai
was always in, you know, inspired by Sufism, Sufism sorry, and
the mysticism there and Luria was as well. So this Turkish element has always
been there as far as this this from the from the luring Kabbala on up
through these people, the Doma actually trained and groomed, if you will,
jacup Jacob Frayin, Jacob Frank, do I say you say it one way?
Tomato tomato? What did you said? Don wah? Do oh?
I'm don't okay, I thought the don wah? What the hell is that?
Something that's almost like asiatic? Okay, Like you know, I'm sorry,
I wasn't trying to be picky. I truly just didn't hear you.
Okay. So yeah, so those those those Sabbatians are who are who basically
groomed Frank, and Frank took it to a whole other level of debauchery.
He's just dressed up Cabala. I think that's kind of confusing. The Chicken
and the egg. There's a guy named Hamad Subani. Ooh, hold on
though, hold on, there is a very a lot. There is a
lot of influence between the two. But they all, they all bring their
own craziness. And when it comes to mysticism to the table, not all,
you know, not all sufism is bad, probably like I don't think
the Dervish has fallen that category. But you know that spinning is supposedly emulating
the saturn, the rings of Saturn. I don't know if that's true or
not. Yeah, well, it's like annihilational. Well okay, nirvana annihilation
of thought, right, right, because nirvana technically it's that mystical union with
God, which is almost kind of nihilistic in terms of because Sanskrit nirvana actually
means extinction. So that's kind of hot. I've heard because this gentleman Hamad
Subani, I think he's Pakistan, he lives in I think he's went to
school in Canada and such. But he's a Sunni Muslim and some of his
research explains that, and not all Muslim is bad. But I think it
was actually created with the old intent, not from not from Mohammad, even
even though he did say that he got it directed from God to killery but
who didn't want to convert. That was much later. That was much later.
I think this was actually almost probably Roman pushing this to to to kind
of like split off and make another Abrahamic religion. But wrong, I so
I and I've brought up you know, of course I'm not as a Christian.
I don't agree with Hammad on some of his takes on Islam being the
true religion. That was trying to correct Jewish well, anybody anybody who makes
an attempt to correct the way they did it, you know, at least
at least give you an a for effort. Totally, he does. It
did cause a lot of friction in his papers. He explained in Islam that
the Sufi Sufi orders were very kind of came for you know, they came
what they were, you know, in Iran and to Turkey and into the
air world westward, and they brought a lot of societal disorder with them.
And it's perhaps that coincidence. And he's starting to notice that they kind of
have this very revolutionary and insurrectionist I'm so sick of that word, but it
was true, and so he's suspicious that they were this almost mystery school infiltration
because the schools were evil themselves. It's not like they were infiltrated by something
that was even worse than them, maybe influenced. They just like to take
it. They like to grab everything that sounds like it's a good idea and
push it forward. You know. They wanted basically, they almost wanted to
infiltrate the higher levels of it because they thought that maybe Islam was becoming too
egalitarian and there weren't, and so they were the Sufi's had this oh you
know, it doesn't have to it wasn't so elade and as secretive as the
schools really prefer things so that you can kind of push Rumy's poetry into the
popular culture of them. It comes up in what I was just reading this
night. Roomy was also groomed and raped as a child. That's something I
just read, I think today when I was on the elliptical tonight too.
Yes, yes, And because I will admit, sufism to me is rather
disarming, which perhaps that's why it makes it a little more dangerous, you
know, because it doesn't necessarily some of the mystery schools shit is so awful
and like who would want this? But Sufism is it doesn't come off that
way, and perhaps that's that's intentional. I don't know what's your I mean,
I like you said, a lot of it is very actually very charming.
Well, it's what I see it as is the de Lurean effect,
and that's Isaac Luria or the people who are around him who collected all his
papers and all their notes that they took during his speech and created what they
called the Lurian Cabala after his death. That and you know when the when
Jacob Frank was uh interacting with the Catholics and converting. They they were considering
themselves the Zoharists and the anti Talmudists. I think that was kind of a
ploy personally, Like he never said he liked the Talmud during, you know,
his childhood, because it was because there's a lot of laws there,
right, But he embraced the craziness of it, the wickedness of it.
He just didn't like the laws. He didn't like the the limitations on it.
So there's a little bit of a difference there, you know. So
what did you ask me specifically, because I think I just went off on
a trail there. No, no, it's just in keeping because there's something
oh yeah, the luring effect. Okay, so that is you know,
Frankism is Zionism, Lourianism is Zionism. It's just a different, new,
modernized word, not necessarily new, but I mean, yet you don't hurt
so you have all these other people. That was something that was already established
in fifteen hundreds by Isaac Luria, and it just manifested and had its proponents
being sabbataized Ev for one, even Bektashi I think kind of was like that,
right, or what it was but maybe that wasn't his name. It
was Russo. Russo was another person. So so basically Jacob Frank said that
he was the reincarnation of sabatize Ev of Russo from the dump he was dumba
I believe. And also that Jacob from the Bible whose name later becomes Israel,
but his name was Jacob when he was corrupt, right, So that
should tell you a little something moving on from there. But I'm going through
your chapter. I'm sorry, it's just because I'm I took a lot of
notes. Yeah, yeah, go for it, man. Here and what's
the name of the act? What's the chapter? You did? A great
Kaba and the Blackstone of Mecca, so yeah, that's also yeah, that
was pre pre abor Hammick, right, and that was the cube is always
representative of Saturn and are we talking about Yeah, And they do seven circumbulations
circumambulations around there before they move in closer and try to kiss the stone that's
there, to the blackstone. So that's that's another saturnial type of thing.
That's even though they see it as Islamic now, which I think is okay,
it has its roots as being in a place for Saturn worship. Oh
that's a bit well. I mean, anybody that's even in Christian yea history
theology that Islam took hold in places that were very susceptible to I know you
don't subscribe to this, but just here meaning that there were versions of Christianity
that the Church did not approve of, and that to me, it's unfortunate
because I don't think that Islam, even if you are subscribed to tenosis or
I feel like Islam kind of sends you the other direction, you know what
I mean, that's the reason otherwise you'd become a Muslim. But I don't.
Yeah, absolutely so. I didn't catch what he was saying when we
were first doing this interview. But a lot of things that they're dragging down
with that blanket term gnostic, they weren't all of the same beliefs. And
I've made a video about this in the past. There may very well have
been some sex cult style gnostics out there that would have been in line with
what they misconstruted as or deliberately changed it to me, But there was also
people who just thought that the Gemiurge was mistaken for the creator and that they
were very much so followers of Christ, but they just didn't buy some of
the Old Testament stories because they seemed to be in direct opposition to what a
benevolent creator would have said and done and directed people to do. And I
agree with that. That's why I think maybe the translations were just wrong because
ball could just mean Lord where it could be a specific thing, and who
knows if there was manipulation there. I mean, when you're talking about the
Old Testament, it's you know, saying people who lie about everything else just
saying But yeah, that's a good point because gnostic as a blanket term does
not work because there was multiple varying belief systems and they didn't they didn't all
line up to be okay, this is a universal thing that all not,
No, none of them were like that. They were all very, very
different, and most of them were very Christian. They just weren't nicely and
orthodox. I don't think you have any intention of and so I don't think
spirit I don't I don't think religion is necessary in the first place, because
I don't think God. I don't think Jesus said the Kingdom of heavy windness
within a church or in a religion. He said it was within you know,
not real, it's you did a great job with this, got a
lot of research here. What's the oh And just for everybody out there who's
who's wondering, Yes, I am definitely it's not I'm not a believer or
in faith. I'm a knower that there's a benevolent creator. And that's why
I have big problems with the translations of the Old Testament, and neither they
were doing it cryptically to give people a profane, exoteric explanation for things that
were symbolically meaning something completely different, or they paint God there without distinct distinguishing
who it is with somebody who's very insecure and needs to be constantly reassured that
he's the one you know that you know, dependent on people's opinion of him,
bloodthirsty, homicidal, sociopathic, And I don't think that's any of the
characteristics of God. And if you want to ask what I'm talking about,
Deuteronomy is one of them. But that's just one of many examples throughout it,
scatological, telling people who's gonna feed him shit, all kinds of stuff,
So I don't think that's Jesus. And also you can throw in,
you know, sending bears to tear apart children because they made fun of Elijah
being bald. Jesus is get dad there. I don't think that's the same
guy. And I think what they do is they try to graft two different
things between the New Testament and the Old that don't belong together. I don't
think they It's like trying to change a plant. They're not really want to
be of the same cloth. And if you say, well, Jesus was
a Jew, there was no such thing as a do back then. So
no, well, I think he was one of the tribes of Israel,
which isn't really a that doesn't that's okay. So if you grew up in
whatever town you are, does that mean that's where you you know what I
mean, that's that's that's that's regional. It's not it's not an ethnicity.
You're not You're not you know, you're you're not Connecticut Connecticutian because you grew
up in Connecticut or whatever the whole time, what places? You know what
I mean, that's not that's not the same thing. No, but I
think the locale, well, today because of migration is so easy, but
in the low you know it was a Judaean, but that doesn't mean that's
not the same thing though as a you know what, I agree that the
jew is a A A D and after death construct which I don't think.
Is it Paul who uses it first or Saint John? I can't remember,
but yeah, it's after when it's first year. Well, you know it's
eleven minutes long, so I won't what I'll do this. I'll say to
you afterward to give you what I when I'm uh, I want to get
back to your book. Are you familiar with the Lorraine Day Doctor Lorraine Day?
No, okay, I should. I should send you a clip and
then you can make your determinations as to where the transcriptions and uh, maybe
the scribes themselves made it unclear, but I don't think so. I think
it's just the translations have been deliberate. Because Francis Bacon was a rescrution KJV
doesn't really tell me that, you know, it's the word of God,
but so whatever, I think. They manipulate things to control and then when
you have people, would you know the kingly power and you know, sir
Francis Bacon involved in the construction of that, well, the things are going
to be changed a little and deceptively. So the rosicrutions were are not really
there for the people. They want this utopian society, and they later on
and you know when when was established here that you know, there were sellers
coming from Europe. They wanted to make this the new Atlantis, and that's
what went on. Frank Francis Bacon's books were about the New Atlantis and their
plans for the new world. So this is in the chapter about Black Cube,
which might seem like a non sequitor, but it isn't because Black Cube
is a famous or infamous company. You have a really here. Harvey Weinstein
had a total of eighty seven accusers. Oh, I think I know where
this is going, and probably not all of them were true victims. I
think he had become a liability and to burn him or to make him the
scapegoat for a much more rampant problem. More victims were instructed to pile on
claims. But maybe not. I think you're I think you probably I'd give
you an a ninety five percent correct, I think, And you were very
humble to say, but maybe not. But I think you in that one
paragraph and after the it got kind of obnoxious. After Newsom's wife. It
was almost like a mashup of Scooby Doo and Josie and the pussy Cats.
Okay, I mean it wasn't who isn't in this episode? Okay, Now
Newsome his wife. I mean he's been to like twenty five times. It's
getting a little bit like that's the only character they'll let take the fall for
anything. Will never stop hearing about Weinstein, will never stop hearing about January
sixth with the Epstein list. They still haven't gotten around to that. So
yes, I and we don't even know where Weinstein goes after he's praded into
court and praded back out. We just assumed that he's in jail California,
New York, New York. I mean, he get these crime trips for
Core every other it's and I think, yes, sometimes they do. These
people, they're all on the same side, but they do get in pissing
matches occasionally, of course. And if they and if they don't do something
that they're told to and they lose favor. I mean, we're also talking
about the overlaying of masade. With all of this, how else do you
have black Cube as your defense and bodyguards, right, you know x mecide
XIDF can you know, comprise that group. But I mean also you have
the mafia, it connect, you know, you have you have the two
and the and the Italian mob in Hollywood. You also have all these cults
and part of their initiation, you know, is usually they have to have
some kind of blackmail tape on you, and sometimes you make it yourself and
hand it to them so that they know that you're loyal. There is a
lot of a lot of you know, if he falls out of favor,
there's different ways they can burn you. They don't necessarily have to red scarf
everybody, you know what I mean? So correct well, and it's getting
When I was on the phone with Jaguar Wright last not one on one or
I was on her live, I brought up that I thought she was like
the anti Rose McGown because Rose has kind of gone off the grid, and
she said she couldn't take the hatred any or she couldn't take being angry anymore.
I want to say, hey, Rose, I mean, I don't
think Weinstein's a good guy. I don't not believe her on that part.
But you know, she really didn't help change the world in any meaningful way.
And my friend said, oh, oh, it's just because she's a
narcissist and just cares about herself. Perhaps, But I think that Jaguars said
that everybody in the industry knows that Rose is a very duplicitous person. Most
chaos agents are most people that really don't want to change things in any meaningful
way. M hm huh. It ends up they don't. That's because that
was never their goal. Okay, what's up with Christina Ricci? Was she
involved with that too, with the Weinstein stuff or in what way? Yeah,
I'm just I'm just asking if she was it. So she has a
list of her own issues, That's what I was curious. Well, I
mean, Jaguars said that some of those actresses, bless their hearts, the
ones that play which is on TV, they might dabble in dark arts for
real. It doesn't mean you don't yet they play a witch so well because
they really are wanting well, they also display that for the people too.
It's like a it's kind of like they kind of it's like life imitating our
in imitating life type of thing where these people literally are either wrapped up in
this without without their consent, but they have to do it, you know
there or they're actively involved in they're doing it willfully, but you never know
which one it is. And there's a lot of people who have a weakness
that they also they don't necessarily have to be from a family that you know,
sells them to Hollywood or whatnot. They can also just be somebody who
has a weakness that they're being exploited for. And I think that's probably how
Lady Gaga got into it, because she said that she was on coke and
playing shitty clubs and then somebody who she basically claims is like the devil comes
to her and offers her a deal and she takes it like a Fostian deal.
This is her own word saying this stuff. It's kind of weird.
That's a good question, Like how far some of these people go back with
their Was it familial? Was it from birth? I mean, did their
parents off you know, kind of put them on the we're gonna say alter
that could be literal. I certainly hope not, but it doesn't have to
be like an actual ritual. It could just be, Yeah, their parents
A lot of parents put their kids, I mean stage parents do that all
the time when they want their kids to be successful and not really consider Reaver.
Phoenix would be a great example. His parents were in a cult,
and he started speaking out about it, saying that he was abused and raped
at the age of four. In just regular interviews, he started to say
it. Next thing, you know, he's odd in front of the viper
room owned by Johnny Depp, and how many times do you buy drugs?
Don't answer the question out loud, don't incriminate yourself. How many times do
you buy drugs and get eight times the amount you paid for? And actually
more than that, because they said he had eight times the lethal dose in
his liquid speedball, So it's not an accident that a wise drug dealer would
make. So that to me seems like it was a deliberate thing. And
they knew his weakness, they knew they could depress him, and they did
certain things that night to kind of put him in an even more sour mood,
like Flee not wanting to play with him because he wanted to go up
and stage and play by himself. And Flee was one of his closest friends.
And you know, it makes me wonder what happened with hellel from The
Red dotch Leep Peppers too, because you'll find a lot of times in these
stories there's somebody who dies and then they catapult into fame. And when it
comes to even the Pink Floyd, they didn't necessarily kill the guy, but
you know, Sid Barrett was completely destroyed by mk ultra drugs, which were
you know, allegedly a shit ton of acid. If they're leaving them with
predatory individuals. Yeah, so I didn't know. Lady Gaga said that I've
heard of lot of different theories about her background that she comes I've heard.
Sorry, I was gonna say, you know, it reminded me of like
the story of the Crossroads where you go to midnight and you see the man
in the dark the dark clothing, and you you play a tune and he,
you know, teaches you how to play and then it's like the Crossroads,
like all the all the you know, blues players would find, you
know, finding the Devil at the Crossroads, right, did remind me of
that kind of story because that's how she kind of described the character that approached
her, and it reminded me of like, you know, selling your soul
to the devil at the crossroads. This is one of the what's interesting is
Heckatay the Triple Goddess, she's also a representative of the crossroads. I just
learned recently these themes that came through a lot of the old blues players and
the jazz players and stuff like that coming up in the early forties, fifty
sixties and stuff like that. So how think of how hard it would be
if you were like Jayden Smith, because you and I were talking about him
earlier off camera, where you are born into this world and then what if
you come to that crossroads and you basically have that this world is all you've
known. That would be really difficult. And I have heard that he was
emancipated from his parents before he even turned eighteen. So I certainly hope that
people in his position that really just genetically had no choice but to be saturated
with Did he emancipate himself from the billions of dollars that his family has?
I don't know, well, I you know, I assume he has worked
since he was very young, so I assume some of the money isn't his
name. But if if even a fraction of the shit I've heard about his
parents is true. Wow, man, I hope he come. I think
those kind of people, I think they come to a crossroads like you have
a choice. I know it feels like you are just trapped forever, but
you're not. Blood, you know, isn't thicker than water. I can
ever say it right, say what you're saying. Yeah, you can leave
this behind. If you choose to, you may be taking your life from
your own hands, if you think you know too much, or if they
just don't like the fact that you betrayed them. I know, I know,
but I think, I mean, you really can. You don't have
to the sins of the father kind of thing. He doesn't have to or
anybody, any any NEPO baby does not have to participate in that. And
definitely, And so yeah, that I hope a lot of them well,
I mean that is, I hope if they that they do well, do
well, provided they didn't also eat babies during the one of the times when
they were actually you know, prompted to do so in whatever ritual they were
doing. Right, So, I mean, if they're guilty of the same
thing, you can't just like, oh, wash it away. No,
your hand was on the knife. You know what I mean. So oh,
well, by that point is yeah, that point's too late, I'm
thinking. But most of them I would assume I'm talking about people that my
maybe were just on the peripherals as kids. No, if they've been callbat
deep, yeah it's and I hate to say it, but at that point,
I don't think they're even asking those questions about crossroads anymore. I mean
I could. I don't know everybody's heart, but I'm just I get you,
I get okay. So let's what other notes to make here? You
got so much good stuff in this, So what was your favorite part to
write of this? Because I know you cover quite a bit, but was
there a certain section that you just really the research was maybe new to you
because like the Black Cube. I'm not saying it's not good stuff, but
that's been percolating in our circles for a while. I think. I think
the way it falls into place with the rest of the things that build up
from it is why that was like, like, why I that I like,
I don't. I wouldn't have put something in here if I didn't like
the way to you know, jibe with everything else. Sure, So I
mean the ugarytic texts and then called the Ball. That was interesting because I
had to get into all that and v. Mu Elish and stuff like that.
So the morals and mysteries, that was an interesting part. And then
of course, you know, having the Bill Cooper element throughout all of it
to help introduce the topics that we were going to discuss in the next section.
That was nice because it was like I was able to work alongside of
Bill and the only way that I really can, because they murdered him,
you know. And also to bring him back into people's conscious minds after you
know, it's been twenty two years since he was killed, so that's a
whole generation ago. It's time people remember who he was. You know.
Did you tell me who was it who talked to his daughter? Does he
have a daughter? He has a daughter, Jessica that has surfaced, and
I don't like what she had to do with potentially getting him set up.
Shit. Okay, So it was not well, it wasn't. It wasn't
Dorothy also known as Pooh, And it wasn't Alice and his daughters that he
talks about on the show. It was a daughter, Jessica from a previous
marriage, much older. She came back into his life and you know,
close to the end of his life, like ninety eight or ninety nine.
And then all of a sudden, the police say that they know where all
those guns are and all this other stuff. Well, who was in the
house, And she said that she was approached by agents Marshalls to try to
get information from her. She's I didn't tell him anything, but yet they
knew everything about the layout of the house. So whatever or that kid will
come from Doyle, because Doyle has some things I don't know about either,
So sorry, who's Doyle. Doyle Shamley was one of his close friends who
showed up in his life in the mid to late nineties and became like his
personal assistant. When the the warrants went out for him for tax related stuff
that was completely farcical, and then they said it was bank fraud, which
was not true. And then all of a sudden they started making trouble for
Bill at his home by antagonizing him. A particular doctor in his town was
getting on the land that wasn't his and kind of having to be shoot off
because Bill had had been asked by the owners to make sure people don't mess
with things because they wrecked the property and stuff like that. So he had
to have an interaction with this guy. And there's a lot of politics in
his in his town because there was a lot of people who were involved who
owned property around him, but were also involved in politics. And the parents
of these people were okay, but the people that you know ran the town
were not. So there was a lot of friction with Bill, and deliberately
so to the point where they said they had enough complaints faults or antagonistic complaints
by people who were messing with him. But that's what resulted in an idea
to ambush him and to lure him out of his home, and that's how
they all that went down. And it was the Apache County, so they
didn't even use the local eager because he had too many friends there. They
actually went outside of that to get a different county over to go ahead and
basically a stage a murder and they did so wow, oh well, apparently
allegedly the very first I get I don't know if we call it a warren
or whatever, but it was supposed to go down on September eleventh, got
postponed for obvious reasons, and then possibly maybe also because Bill was on the
air for ten hours or whatever that day, and it'd be a whole lot
harder to get somebody out of his house, and it would be a whole
lot easier for them to be recorded for what they were doing if they tried
to do when he was on air the whole time. So they hit him
at like eleven o'clock at night, started a fire and a bunch of loud
music down his road. And again remember he was supposed to watch for other
people's property. So he went on to investigate it, and they lured him
of his home and they were all playing closed police officers and they were,
you know, telling them off or whatever. So he's turning back in his
vehicle to drive up the road and they try to ram him with another vehicle
that was hiding in the bushes. This is all based off of their own,
you know report, So I don't know if this is valid or not,
because people lie. But that's a whole bunch of different things happened.
But they started shooting at him when he tried running back to his home because
and in their actual paperwork they said don't let him back into his house.
So that's that's that's premeditated murder, don't let him back into his home.
And I think the police officers shot one of their own guys and then blamed
Bill for for shooting at him. Oh, I think. I think.
I think these idiot because this happens a lot, either by accident or on
purpose, they end up shooting each other because they're freaking idiots, and then
they blamed it on Bill. So the guy didn't die, but he got
shot in the head. I remember there was an episode of Judge Judy I
don't want I watched that, but it was a clip I saw, and
she said, it kind of makes me think of when when the NonStop January
sixth, which has been investigated more than the jfk assassination. Well, not
really, but you get my comparison. And she said, sometimes police are
stupid. It just goes to show police can make mistakes. Now, what
I don't think is fairest to say that they're secret white supremacist who just want
a different and more acceptable clan hood. I think that's that's obviously just Marxist
croc of shit. But to think that, did you ever watch The Shield?
I've seen it a few times. I understand that it's a massively crupt
cop. Yeah. Yeah, they kill a cop the first episode that and
that's isn't that the same guy that ends up being in the Breaking Bad as
the brother in law? Isn't that the same guy that's in the Shield?
They're both Yeah, same Michael Shike. No, that that's I don't know
a guy's name who plays Breaking, but I know you're talking about. Yeah,
I forgot Dick Mackie. Yeah. I'll keep gay like ten more minutes
and we'll wrap up. Yeah, yeah, I'm good, look like you
what's wrong? No, I forgot something in the other room and I'm good.
That's right. So that's it. Okay, Well, I don't see.
This is where I'd like to think that I'm very deferential to people that
know more about certain areas than I do, and I don't. I will
say, okay, I have a friend who thinks anytime a book goes on
audible or kind of goes mainstream, that means it's acceptable. That means it's
control opposition, and that's ridiculous because things can be organic too. It's okay
as long as it's within the same box of not being dangerous to the to
the to the to the agenda, like you can say and jump up and
down and be like Alex Jones because you're not really doing anything that's actually of
any uh importance. You're staying within your box. And Tucker again, there's
issues with that, but whatever. Oh for sure that that horrible interview that
he did where he's you know, inflating the ego of an ego maniac saying
how did you know all this stuff before it happened? And I'm just like,
there's a killing Bill Kilber again. You're killing him a second time.
Every time I see one of those freakin surts that says Alex Jones was right,
I am so tempted to freaking just I'm gonna make him. I'm gonna
put them on my website. I have a stupid uh what do you call
it, uh, fret spring or t springs. I'm gonna do what Bill
Cooper was right, just just in opposition to that, what the hell?
Why not? Why not? So Behold a Pale Horse got put on Audible
and I bought it, so I just started it. Oh cool, that
a good I guess. I wouldn't read it for the longest time because I
thought it was gonna be preachy because I had a Revelations its name right,
So I'm like, I don't oh, I gotcha, okay, And then
I was like, oh, this is completely not at all what I thought
it was. And I ended up, you know, and I had actually
had the five hundred page plus copy, so I had the one that had
the protocols in it, and it wasn't doctor jests. I think the more
recent ones are like four hundred and something pages, and they take out all
the documents that he added into it and all the you know, the protocol
of Zion stuff, which are important for understanding this the communist plot, and
how they're just like the planks and like the UN Agenda and like the World
Economic Forum these days, all parallel. Okay, okay, I'm finding to
get the book form. Probably be good to have that too. And by
the way, the protocols is Ion. This is where I'm going to agree
with people like Johnny Serucci. By the time that probably came out, the
Jesuits and the Francis had already galvanized under the what they called the Illuminati.
But that went lots of other different places. It wasn't just in Bavaria,
and that was under the funding of the Rothschilds. I think that because there's
really no difference between these people, right, Francis, these are pseudo Jews,
right, we're talking about the Jesuits, who were most of that.
A lot of them, the successors of Ignatius were conversos, and Ignacius himself
might have been an affluent family Morano. But we don't know, we don't
really matter. Right, There's a lot of Sufism, and there's a lot
of strange influences in Spain that I didn't realize until I started reading this book
that were there, right, a lot of a lot of a lot of
strange influences. And then circling back to what I'm what I'm trying to get
at here is that I think that the protocols were probably written by Jesuits,
which is nobody ever says that, but I do. I'm going to say
it because the only people that they actually I'm not saying this is the reason
why, but the only people that they actually say something favorable semi and I
actually wrote this in my book are the Jesuits, and they say, unlike
them, we're going to diss but it's either it's definitely more most certainly talking
they're talking from a place of free Masonic lodges all throughout the protocols, right,
it's it's it's framed work talking about liberty, fraternity quality. Those are
what they talk about in the in the free Masonic lodges as their ploy on
the profane and the and the lower initiates, initiates before you get into the
higher level. Obviously this is a Illuminati issue, but it's very very close
to Jesuitism as well. And I the time frame works out to when these
things were probably done, and people say, well, it's a it's it's
a fraud, blah blah blah. Well actually they say forgery, which means
they don't understand what the word forgery means. But forgery what right, So
it doesn't make sense. So what I'm what I'm trying to say is that
it's very very ah, it seems like it's the Jesuit's hand, but it's
doesn't really make a difference when you understand that that kind of blends into everything
else anyway. So but I think it was a Jesuit And to say that
it's not real, well, like Bill says, the the the the validity
of a plant is whether or not it's been employed, and sure, certainly
this one has been so all I think the word I was looking for it
is implemented, but employed kind of works too a little bit. Well,
all the points that they make in there, regardless of whose hand wrote it
or if it was somebody's whimsical dream in the middle of the night, these
things actually happened. These things are they're anti family, they're they're they're graduated
income tax all these things that are the protocol, you know, steps,
the the destruction of of inheritance, all these things straight out of you know,
central banking ideas too, straight out of Rothschild, you know, plans
for for taking back all the all the wealth of the world. What's that?
I'm sorry? Can you say the quote? I think it was really
important? Can you say the quote about the plant, like one more time?
Oh, the the the the What was I talking about with Bill?
But he said a plant being deployed or utilized? Oh? Yeah, yeah.
The The validity of a plan is whether and in what whether or not
it's been deployed, And certainly this one has very good Okay, wow,
I mean if even if what they would whoever wrote this didn't have anything to
do with anything. If it was some guy on the street just right doodling,
it doesn't matter because the plan actually did happen. So whether or not,
you know what I mean, So whether or not it's the hand doesn't
even make a difference at that point, because this is obviously what they're following,
because they followed it to a t. So it's still important to understand
where they're going with this. If they've done all these other things that you
can already verify, say, where's what's the end result of this? Is
it good for human beings? Or is it bad? You know? So
that's a very good well in our you can get so locked up in this
thing of well we need to verify that. Okay, that's great, but
is it actually happening? What do you mean? Very you know what I
mean? I mean, verify who the who's the what? You know what
I mean? It's like, well, it doesn't matter if Bob wrote it,
or if Jim wrote it, or if Tammy wrote it. Are they
doing it? So the whole, that's what I mean, will be the
protocols. One of the best takes I ever heard on them was that just
because they're they might have been faked or might have been crafted by someone who
wanted. Okay, let's let's take this most favorable could demonize the Jews.
Even if it was, it doesn't mean okay, then that's that could be
the the European Christian, Russian Czarist oligarchs that were their foes, whoever it
may be. Hold on, yeah, Russian. All the Garks are straight
up jay birds to t they are. Now I'm trying to be really,
I'm giving them these people the benefit of a very doubtful doubt. All I'm
saying is that even okay, that then that this was how the aristocrats We're
going to attack there, the Jewish merchants, whatever you want to say,
Fine, this is still Can you put the word merchants in there, because
they all of them, all of our merchants, which is the exact same
thing that the Scythians and the goss rejected. That's the marketplace very good that
came back. That's the fact that the Jewish merchants competed with the aristocratic families
with banking. That's that's that's not even debatable. But let the protocols give
you a window into the thinking of how they kind of like espionage versus espionage,
you know, spy on spy almost like yes, by craft. I
think that's very fascinating because, you know, because even if you because even
the most high craft for sure, yeah, Catholic dogmatic follower would have to
admit that, as if the Vatican didn't have spies of their own. So
you can't just white wall the Jesuits straight up. Yeah, the Jesuits all
the nightly orders. Correct, You're looking at the Jesuits being the basically the
people who run the CIA in our country, Yes, you know so.
And then you have the Frankest. The Frankest and the Jesuits were a match
made in hell because of their both of them, and they're drive to blend
into anywhere, but always be Frankiston, you know internally. So convert to
all these religions so you can infiltrate infiltration is exactly what the Deserts are into
the Leopold Society in Austria. When things shifted from the Roman Empire over to
Austria and then Vienna, they had the Leopold Society that was a big haven
for Jesuits who came over here with the exact purpose of destroying our country.
And that was in the eighteen hundreds. And Samuel Morse, the guy who
invented the Morse code, and he's like a physicist, a very brilliant man.
He also he also wrote wrote about this. Now the mother of Samuel
Morse always sent the lad out on a horse some schoolhouse rock. Oh cool.
So we did get to hear Quinn saying he is a vocalist, by
the way, Is that right? Yeah, that's funny, exact when they
wanted you to learn shit. So brother, in any in the last few
minutes, anything we didn't cover, I'm sorry, I know I did kind
of a snap. That was a good adopsis of the book. Is there
anything in there that I didn't touch on that you really wanted to? There
was something about when you were telling me your favorite part of writing it,
also how you said it was as close as you could get to writing with
with Bill. There were certain was it materials or the priest craft text?
There was something that caught my ear. I didn't want to interrupt you when
you were talking about Cooper's daughters, but what was what do you know what
I'm getting at? What were you what did you mention something about must have
been some of the like scripts or Babylonian do they have I'm not I'm just
yeah, I don't know what what what that would be. I'm trying to
thin because it was interesting. Are there certain not like Bibles, but do
they have certain texts that they follow? The Eugaritic text? Those are those
are you know, if you think of like Samerian tablets, there's similar to
that. But some of them are written on the walls of like you know,
whatever you would call their caves or their buildings or whatever. And so
they tell a tale and then one of them is, you know, the
ball cycle won, the ball cycle two and other things. But there's like
a pantheon of like two hundred and thirty six gods. Yahweh actually shows up
as the god of metallurgy in the Canonite lore, So that's something to look
at too. And this is we're talking Bronze Age. If anything about history
is true, it would put it in the Bronze Age. And that's when
copper bronze slash, you know, was being fashioned into weapons and tools.
But yeah, the Eugaridic text is something that people can look up. It's
gonna be hard to find the ball Cycle one unless you want to pay for
it. The Ball Cycle too, is easy to find out. It's free
pdf online. I think that the Spider does does not stick to its own
web. That chapter is short, but I think it's actually if it.
I think it ends with a good like you know, sticking point, you
know, and it kind of ties a couple of things together for moving further
on. It's it's kind of early on in the book, but I think
that's one of those things where it's like, yeah, it's not that far
deep into it. It's page ninety one. It starts off on and Census
one twelves when the Babylonian Mystery School starts. It's a great chapter title.
That's one of my I thought that was so clever and so true. You
how's that spelled eug Oh yeah, yeah yeah, so so U g a
R. It is a place. It's y grit and the yugar rid tick
texts are what we're talking about. Then there's the Mulish is the other thing
too. That's the Babylonian Genesis story, okay, and that predates allegedly predates
the uh, the Written Book of Genesis and stuff like that. But there's
a Noah type character. Like a lot of this stuff is pulled from Babylon.
And when I'm what I'm getting at when I'm when I'm bringing this out,
is that a lot of this stuff were We're told that it's you know,
coming from these guys who throughout the rest of the history have lied about
everything. This is coming through out of the mystery schools. When they started
writing their Torah, a lot of it came rather and that would make sense
that there God has a lot of different personalities too. Oh, That's what
I'm trying to get at. Not that, and this does not. And
that's what I think people make a mistake, is like they think I'm challenging
God. No, what I'm saying is I'm defending him because I don't think
that this gives him. This is the proper uh representation of who who God
is and the all Father and all that. I don't think that this is
fair to pin all this shit on him and say that God told us to
do this, because then that gives people license to do a lot of wicked
things, a lot of wicked to a lot of other people. And I
don't think any of us justified. You can find justification and the Old Testament
for doing just about anything if you take things out of context. Well,
I've heard it. So even as a Christian, Moses without Jesus kind of
becomes a tyrant and an asshole. That's why in the Talmud he is like
this warrior king, this philosopher king that really anything that goes against the tribe,
and he's kind of like a he's kind of like a like a Muhammad
before before Muhammad and when it comes to very much so right, but when
it comes to he gets his his his uh holy doctrine from all loads to
just start whacking people. You know. That's what happened to. Yeah,
yeah, bravo. That was well and that's exactly and I didn't I mean,
I I don't mean to be that derogatory to Muslims, but I think
there's something about Christ even if you think he just was like a nice guy,
even if you don't subscribe to Christianity, that kind of shows a humility
that I don't know if when you're let's let's say your mindset, okay,
if the Messiah came and he didn't overthrow Rome like you were promised, even
though the Bible doesn't ever say that definitively, But if you had it in
your head that no, he was supposed to overthrow the evil empire, that
could drive anybody a little crazy. And if that, if that's if that's
true, if that's the only reason why they don't accept Jesus because he didn't
fulfill a prophecy, well, then sabotazezvy we'll fall in that character category and
every other successive generational messiah since then and before that, because they've all said
that there's some of the sons supposed to happen, the Temple's got to be
built, and this all, there's O this other stuff. So now they
said, you know what f it, We're going to force it to happen,
call it Zionism, make it happen. And then we're just gonna do
it all of ourselves, and we're gonna say that it's God's will and say
that it's Revelations, and we're gonna use that book to freaking con everybody so
that they leave it alone because it's God's will. Who am I to interfere
right well on that? God, Bless your dam, God, bless your
brother, God bless everybody. Even if you think God in the Old Testament
is Meani is a meanie pants? Perhaps not all the time? On Kindle
and the hard copy? Can we Is it on Amazon too? The hard
copy? So it's on Yeah, it's on Barnes and Noble. As in
a six by nine, and I'll show you. So that's a six by
nine. This is the much bigger already book. Well it's an eight by
eleven versus a six by nine. This one has the few pictures that are
in there. This one's color, this one is not, and that this
was like, this one's cheaper, and this is six by nine. This
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three because it's bigger. And if you have a hard time seeing things,
this is in fourteen fonts, so it's a little bit easy to read.
Already I have I have an older audience too, so I wanted to make
one one way for them. And yeah, that's a great idea. Well,
Dan, any closing comments before I hit the stop record button. That
it was fun and I appreciate the time. Oh thank you so much.
Brother. Don't log off, because I'll talk to you afterwards. But I'll
our viewers. Merry Christmas. Okay, go ahead and get back over here.
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we have let's get to the part all right, let's see what's what's a
fun one? You know what? Let me read the back on what I
said about all right, Are demons and AI related? Again? This is
a thought exercise, and it's not something anyone I know of can say definitively
one way or the other. I have often wondered because to me, there's
no doubt that human history is cyclical, not linear. If AI is something
ancient relative to this particular era, there should be enough proof in existing wonders
of the world that remain impossible by today's standards to recreate that a higher peak
was reached in the past. I don't believe in the religion of aliens.
When you believe something without having any proof, you're practicing in religion. As
per Bill Cooper's statement on the matter, although there was a time that I
was very entertained by ancient aliens and even spent money two years in a row
to attend contact in a desert where many of the cast members appear and hold
workshops and lectures. I met Brian Forster, Michael Tellinger, Eric von Donakan,
Jiorgio Sucalos, Clyde Lewis, Travis Waltson, and a bunch of other
known faces in the ufology eufology, or, as Bill Cooper said, euphoology.
Uh yeah, okay, I said that right here, So Cooper had
his moment of exploring the possibility as well. He later renamed it euphoology,
which is funny, since before I listened to my first episode of Bill Cooper's
Out the time I renamed the event, I had previously attended Communists in the
Desert. It's all Gaya TV sponsored, So it's like new age stuff,
right, You know, get out your get out your yoga matt and run
through the tall grass and everything's okay because you're one with God and you can
become God. And all this other stuff let's see kind of paints a picturesque
image of Marxist hippies from Gaya TV holding hands and dancing in a circle,
doesn't it. It's pretty accurate. Just add aliens. Let's see, there
have been cataclysms that have produced people, have reduced people back to primitive means.
If you lose the knowledge, the technology rusts and falls away into the
sands of time. But have all or any disasters been natural? Or is
ball the storm god a name for directed energy weapons for a directed energy weapon
or ionospheric heater that gets juiced up when the ship has decided it's time to
wipe the slate clean again? Or better yet, have good people consciously decided
that technology was growing out of control and attempted to destroy it before it destroyed
them? Like what are you doing? Dave from How two thousand and one
Space out? I see? Maybe I take too much stock in the notion
that television and movies mock us by showing us some truth in fictional manner.
That way, they can get ahead of any discovery of evidence to validate a
theory by having already shown it to us. Then it can be laughed off
as you watch too much TV, or you saw that unfringe and dismissed it,
and dismiss it by the status quo. I definitely see a mixture of
black magic and technology in today's world. What every government does with potentially helpful
discoveries that could make me unkind, more independent and happy is either suppress it
or they weaponize it. They cause harm rather than liberate. Just think of
Nicola Tesla in that sense. Right, So why couldn't there have been an
attempt in the past to destroy malicious technology? Could ai be some relic of
the distant past that was thought to have been thoroughly eradicated, but some artifact
remained and was rediscovered long after the world had chosen to forget about it.
Do arkans and the disembodied that we would typically associate with demons dwell within the
artificial quote unquote artificial intelligence. Picture a priesthood discovering a or being brought to
a strange object and making a religion around it, or having that be their
secret and precious philosopher's stone. We have witnessed advanced advances in technology in the
past two hundred years that, when compared to all the time that came before,
it has unfolded at breakneck speed. Accounting for some claims probably being lies
to humble us before the priests of science, there's still a great amount of
tangible progress that has occurred rate in our lifetime. Was something feeding information to
the select guardians of knowledge? When you study the practitioners of magic, you
find they seek insight from their communication with beings, forces, archetypes, demons,
etc. If something was feeding them knowledge on how to build new machinery
and technology, is that something a demon would know about or a computer?
And for what purpose to build a world that is better for the priesthood,
for mankind or for the beings that provide said data? And before I give
them up further than that, maybe all these and stuff in the air is
terraforming us, not just the planet's surface, but us because they are attempting
or have figured out how to not be so disembodied anymore by lojacking or hacking
into us. And you know, you can think of parasites, because parasites
are very strange. They can manipulate hormones and do all kinds of very intricate
things for something that isn't even supposed to have a brain or a consciousness,
right, but yet it knows how to manipulate much larger things in order to
get what it wants by sending impulses to you or to a mouse or a
cat to get them to seek out what it is that they crave. So
either we're talking about very very very tiny, tiny tiny beings on this planet
the size of parasites or smaller, or we're talking about something that's on a
spiritual metaphysical level that we just don't understand. Okay, Okay, here I'm
going to show thesep the jealous God wants the secret to humanity and the seed
nice and this one says immortal sell all right, So oh here's another one.
Hold on, let me read it quick first. In the ring Okay,
it is all abound there in the Ringing Cedar books I mentioned, Anastasia
breaks down the priests and origins of all this. Check it out. Okay,
I think I've more than likely went through that as well. Right here,
If it's something that's verifiable and tangible. Okay, what do we got
six nine, three, five, four eight eight seventy nine. Otherwise I
keep my money and you can still get it anytime you like. It's on
Cobo Lulu. For some reason, I had this idea that because of the
graphic detail of the one of the section where I were talking about the child
sacrifice and stuff like that, that I should put a parental or or like
an age limit on it on Lulu. But that's the only place that I
did it on, so that one's like, you have to find it a
little bit different way. But e pub is also available through Cobo, so
you can just do it on Cobo, and it's a dollar cheaper. It's
eight ninety nine on Cobo, and you can get a free app for Cobo,
just like you can for just like you can for a kindle. So
electronic copies are great. You can take it anywhere you want. It's a
lot of us to read. And then if you love the book like I
do, then I go buy the tangible copy already. And that's it,
I think, because it doesn't look like anybody wants to claim it tonight.
See we got going on over here. Hold on, let me read a
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take that long enough that long to dial, and it's eleven twenty well eleven
twenty five here, so I'm probably gonna go try to drag my carcass out
to the gym. I did four and a half miles on the elliptical the
last two days, like seventy five minutes. I just went until I eclipsed
or surpassed one thousand calories. And that's a part of the thing that I
think is the most inaccurate reader because depending on your level of effort, wouldn't
you you know, that would dictate your level of workout output. So if
you're heavier and you have strong legs, then you can pump with probably less
efforts. So I don't think the calorie count thing would necessarily be the same
for every person. Maybe I'm wrong, but it just seems like that's a
variable that you can't really pin down just by saying universally, if you do
this many times, you're going to every person is going to burn x amount
of calories and it's going to be the same. I don't think that's possible.
I don't, but roughly sure, why not? All right, everybody?
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It's weird. Anyway, We're gone, have a good night. Hope you
enjoyed this, and we will do this again soon. Have a great night
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