WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.640 --> 00:00:07.360 This is the two seventeen Recovery podcast with Corey Winfield. I don't know why 2 00:00:07.360 --> 00:00:10.919 would they sit there and watch this talk in two microphones and look at each 3 00:00:10.960 --> 00:00:15.279 other and look at your faces that you give me sometimes and co Holt Marnie 4 00:00:15.519 --> 00:00:20.120 Winfield. In situations like that, if you take the time to weigh the 5 00:00:20.160 --> 00:00:24.160 pros and cons of your involvement in something. I think this is across the 6 00:00:24.199 --> 00:00:26.920 board with a lot of things in life, you know, doesn't make sense 7 00:00:27.000 --> 00:00:34.359 for me in my world. It is the twenty third of April twenty three. 8 00:00:35.079 --> 00:00:40.359 My name is Corey Winfield. My name is Martie Winfield. Oh you 9 00:00:40.439 --> 00:00:44.840 kind of did it with a I wasn't trying. You weren't like dramatic about 10 00:00:44.840 --> 00:00:48.439 it, like I was, yeah, yeah, why would they watch us 11 00:00:48.759 --> 00:00:52.200 do a podcast? Some people that's how they do it. They Ron, 12 00:00:52.560 --> 00:00:59.520 my friend Ron Robinson and his podcast. They started well, he started recording 13 00:00:59.600 --> 00:01:02.280 them and he was like, oh my god, Corey, you know how 14 00:01:02.320 --> 00:01:04.719 much work that is. It takes me so long to like edit it and 15 00:01:04.840 --> 00:01:10.599 like put it together. I said, yeah, Ron, that's that's why 16 00:01:10.599 --> 00:01:14.319 I don't do that. There's more work, man. I was like, 17 00:01:14.359 --> 00:01:17.200 I just do this podcast for fun and people can listen to it in the 18 00:01:17.200 --> 00:01:21.840 shower driving they don't have to look at their phone and watch it. Yeah, 19 00:01:21.959 --> 00:01:23.719 in a perfect world, shore that'd be great, man. I can't 20 00:01:23.760 --> 00:01:26.599 like it that way. Yeah. Well yeah, because we can running here 21 00:01:26.599 --> 00:01:30.280 and we don't have to do makeup, and I can wear boxers and T 22 00:01:30.439 --> 00:01:34.560 shirt. I don't have to get done up either. Yeah. I don't 23 00:01:34.640 --> 00:01:40.920 do my hair. No, but what if we did like one a week 24 00:01:40.959 --> 00:01:45.079 and then I made interns. No, not with you, because I know 25 00:01:45.120 --> 00:01:49.239 you're like, not about that, but if we do it for a North 26 00:01:49.280 --> 00:01:55.719 studio, Yeah, you can do that. And I had like Cob or 27 00:01:55.760 --> 00:02:00.319 somebody maybe named Cob whoever. You know, people are looking for stuff to 28 00:02:00.400 --> 00:02:02.480 do, you know, and volunteer were like, hey, I'll show you 29 00:02:02.519 --> 00:02:05.280 how to edit. But see, do I have time to show them how 30 00:02:05.280 --> 00:02:07.800 to edit video shoot? I don't know. I tried to watch you. 31 00:02:08.639 --> 00:02:12.919 I don't know. Thank you, but some people would love that, I'm 32 00:02:12.960 --> 00:02:17.680 sure. Yeah, I'm sure they would. I'm just just throwing it out 33 00:02:17.680 --> 00:02:22.479 there. Yeah, I think about it. It's possibility. I do want 34 00:02:22.479 --> 00:02:24.599 to do some more videos, and we'll probably do on this week from the 35 00:02:24.639 --> 00:02:31.599 office. You got some good m compliments from my class. Oh yeah, 36 00:02:31.680 --> 00:02:37.000 I'm making videos. Yeah, I did the video that you needed for the 37 00:02:37.599 --> 00:02:40.439 It was a project act or something, and I was acceptance and commitment therapy. 38 00:02:40.479 --> 00:02:46.479 I had to do a just a presentation of the actual an exercise of 39 00:02:46.520 --> 00:02:51.840 it. And you know, he's like all of videotape because it was my 40 00:02:51.960 --> 00:02:55.120 class Solvia zoom right, So and I was doing the project by myself, 41 00:02:55.759 --> 00:03:00.199 and so I had to do something that didn't involve another person. So I 42 00:03:00.240 --> 00:03:02.840 just had to do this presentation. So I'm like, perfect, I will 43 00:03:02.879 --> 00:03:07.039 have it all done and ready to go. So I had to do his 44 00:03:07.120 --> 00:03:09.360 press play on the day. I need to present it, easy, peasy. 45 00:03:10.080 --> 00:03:13.080 So I asked you for your help, and you're like, oh, 46 00:03:13.159 --> 00:03:16.280 heck, yeah, I'll do all video tape it. So of course he 47 00:03:16.360 --> 00:03:23.080 had like three different cameras set up at three different angles and you know, 48 00:03:23.759 --> 00:03:28.639 like testing and did the whole put it all together and had music in the 49 00:03:28.680 --> 00:03:34.199 intro. Yeah yeah yeah, and then I still screw that up and then 50 00:03:34.439 --> 00:03:38.520 one of the cameras I wasn't sure how to anyway, Yeah, it turned 51 00:03:38.520 --> 00:03:40.680 out great and he got lots of compliments on it. My class was like, 52 00:03:40.719 --> 00:03:46.919 Wow, that was like professionally done. I was like kind of yeah, 53 00:03:46.960 --> 00:03:49.439 I know. I can't wait you to the next Spotlight video. Whoever's 54 00:03:49.439 --> 00:03:53.080 going to be in that, they're gonna feel awesome because it's gonna be amazing. 55 00:03:53.240 --> 00:03:57.159 I'm just saying that right now. I'm not bragging. I'm not saying 56 00:03:57.280 --> 00:04:00.759 blue. I'm just saying yeah. I mean, there's story could suck, 57 00:04:00.879 --> 00:04:06.639 but the video of photography or video whatever it's called cinema videography, the vigia 58 00:04:06.800 --> 00:04:11.680 is gonna look good. Yeah. I'm just glad you're excited about it. 59 00:04:11.919 --> 00:04:15.599 Yeah, and you are getting better at it, you know, it's like 60 00:04:15.639 --> 00:04:17.920 anything with practice. Yep. Look at the first one it was just done 61 00:04:17.920 --> 00:04:21.879 with a iPhone. It was Tyrone's. It was like two minutes long, 62 00:04:25.360 --> 00:04:28.399 just trying it. And now they're getting a little bit longer. And I'm 63 00:04:28.399 --> 00:04:32.519 gonna even step it up one more notch and actually be in the videos too 64 00:04:32.519 --> 00:04:36.720 as I'm interviewing the people, because like before, we couldn't really have me 65 00:04:36.759 --> 00:04:43.800 in the video because we didn't have a video cameras or enough silend record it. 66 00:04:44.519 --> 00:04:47.759 So like the questions like typed out or whatever, and I'm not saying 67 00:04:47.800 --> 00:04:51.720 that older people have a problem with that, but all the older people had 68 00:04:51.759 --> 00:04:58.439 a problem with that. Yeah, and since I'm older now too, I 69 00:04:58.560 --> 00:05:00.759 get it because sometimes you can't see the TV and then read it and you're 70 00:05:00.800 --> 00:05:06.439 like, wait what I get my glasses on. So anyway, yeah, 71 00:05:06.519 --> 00:05:11.759 that'll be happening soon, so look for that on the website. The two 72 00:05:11.800 --> 00:05:16.480 seventeen Recovery Center we have kind of officially opened now, we've had our grand 73 00:05:16.519 --> 00:05:21.000 opening yet. That might be in August. No, it's just kidding, 74 00:05:23.000 --> 00:05:26.600 but I don't know, it'll be whenever. Yeah, you know, we're 75 00:05:26.600 --> 00:05:29.120 still gotta do some finishing up. But I mean just May. May is 76 00:05:29.160 --> 00:05:36.000 gonna be busy, and so was June in July. I'm just saying that, 77 00:05:36.240 --> 00:05:42.439 like I wish it was football season already. The Draft is coming up 78 00:05:42.480 --> 00:05:47.680 this week. And anyway, the two seventeen Recovery Center, though, we 79 00:05:47.759 --> 00:05:50.959 have a sign out front now, we do. We made that. We 80 00:05:51.040 --> 00:05:56.279 have our road sign, yeah, so you can see it from the street 81 00:05:56.680 --> 00:06:00.480 that because it's kind of like tucked away a little bit off the road. 82 00:06:01.040 --> 00:06:05.600 So it's I think that's nice to give people an idea of where it actually 83 00:06:05.680 --> 00:06:12.399 lives. Yeah, and people have come by. You know, there's no 84 00:06:12.480 --> 00:06:15.600 point you needed and people just gonna walk in. And I've chatted with a 85 00:06:15.600 --> 00:06:19.560 few people and kind of pointed them in the right direction. Direction, which 86 00:06:19.560 --> 00:06:25.240 of course is what a recovery coaching is. And if you're looking for a 87 00:06:25.279 --> 00:06:30.920 recovery coach, you know, reach out. Yes it's free. So they're 88 00:06:30.920 --> 00:06:32.240 like, hey, I need a recovery coach or you've always wanted one er, 89 00:06:32.279 --> 00:06:34.600 you know, if you know what it is, you know, give 90 00:06:34.680 --> 00:06:38.680 us a call at the office. And I don't want to put you on 91 00:06:38.720 --> 00:06:42.839 the spot, but is there a way Is there a way that people could 92 00:06:43.160 --> 00:06:49.720 um request recovery coach off the website to be contacted. I was waiting for 93 00:06:49.759 --> 00:06:53.920 you to mention that. Okay, now that you've mentioned it, yeah, 94 00:06:53.959 --> 00:06:56.560 I'll put it on the website. I was just like, I'm gonna wait 95 00:06:56.600 --> 00:07:00.800 until someone mentions it. No, that's a great idea. Yeah, yeah, 96 00:07:00.040 --> 00:07:02.519 yeah, a little form that we can have you fill out. And 97 00:07:02.959 --> 00:07:05.360 I mean it's nothing crazy. We're not gonna put your name out on a 98 00:07:05.399 --> 00:07:09.879 marquee or anything. And no, just to be contacted by recovery coach, 99 00:07:10.839 --> 00:07:14.839 you know, leave name, an email address or whatever info you feel comfortable 100 00:07:14.920 --> 00:07:24.160 leaving. You know, it's just a Yahoo account or or phone number either 101 00:07:24.279 --> 00:07:29.839 or both. M Yeah, well look you up and I'll get my pen 102 00:07:29.920 --> 00:07:33.600 out right now, okay, right click it. I clicked it. Website 103 00:07:35.079 --> 00:07:39.639 update, Yeah, but I've been wanting to do that for quite a while 104 00:07:39.680 --> 00:07:46.879 now. Yeah, and we're working on finalizing our what when our meetings are 105 00:07:46.879 --> 00:07:50.279 going to be our twelve step groups. That's coming along a little by little 106 00:07:51.680 --> 00:07:55.879 so and those meetings are going to be on Zoom as well. Yeah, 107 00:07:56.319 --> 00:08:01.800 we were hoping to start the meetings first week of May. Potentially that might 108 00:08:01.879 --> 00:08:07.120 happen. Tyrone, he's coming by Tuesday and he's gonna have a meeting. 109 00:08:09.839 --> 00:08:13.720 Not sure exactly on what time is meeting is going to be, but we 110 00:08:13.800 --> 00:08:20.040 might do his meeting on Tuesday. So if you're down for a meeting on 111 00:08:20.079 --> 00:08:24.480 Tuesday around noon, nishe I know, Tuesday at noon. Starting in May, 112 00:08:24.480 --> 00:08:28.319 there's gonna be a different meeting. Yeah, but we might pop on 113 00:08:28.399 --> 00:08:33.080 there and just do a meeting or something. But look at the website for 114 00:08:33.120 --> 00:08:37.759 that and we'll have times and stuff and what different meetings are and joining the 115 00:08:37.799 --> 00:08:41.600 fun. Yeah, you know, we're trying to have fun and recovery and 116 00:08:41.799 --> 00:08:46.120 it's kind of what we're doing. Yeah, you know, our space isn't 117 00:08:46.159 --> 00:08:50.799 the biggest, but for the people that are there, they're going to be 118 00:08:50.919 --> 00:08:54.519 serious and all about it. So it's definitely a meeting that if you live 119 00:08:54.600 --> 00:09:01.720 in Colorado, if you live in Virginia. That sounded weird, Virginia, 120 00:09:03.639 --> 00:09:09.960 Why if you live in Corey because it's the name of a person. I've 121 00:09:09.960 --> 00:09:13.279 never really noticed that before. Things you noticed when you're sober, Yeah, 122 00:09:13.480 --> 00:09:18.799 telling you, but yes, join us. And there's also a meeting tomorrow. 123 00:09:20.519 --> 00:09:24.879 I'll definitely post this on Facebook. It's at a diction Treament Services and 124 00:09:24.919 --> 00:09:28.720 again it's on Zoom as well. But it's for families and it's tomorrow at 125 00:09:28.720 --> 00:09:35.919 five thirty. Our friend Nancy now host it and they're going to be more 126 00:09:35.919 --> 00:09:43.000 than likely doing some stuff at the two seventeen Recovery Center as well. Yeah, 127 00:09:43.120 --> 00:09:46.320 not necessarily Nancy or ats, but that that same group of families. 128 00:09:46.519 --> 00:09:50.399 It's like family support group. Yeah, so the idea is that it's going 129 00:09:50.440 --> 00:09:56.519 to be the same group of individuals that join that group that's led by Nancy, 130 00:09:56.600 --> 00:10:00.159 but it's just going to be pure lad which essentially just means one of 131 00:10:00.200 --> 00:10:05.919 the people that is a regular at those meetings who knows the flow of how 132 00:10:05.960 --> 00:10:09.399 they go and the structure and the agenda and the you know, expectations and 133 00:10:11.120 --> 00:10:15.399 so on and so forth, is gonna be in charge of kind of facilitating 134 00:10:15.440 --> 00:10:20.519 that. So whether you again it's on zoom, so for my people down 135 00:10:20.559 --> 00:10:26.000 southwast Michigan or mid Michigan or Northern Michigan, whatever, if you're like, 136 00:10:26.039 --> 00:10:31.080 oh, I can't make it, you know, there's is on zoom. 137 00:10:31.120 --> 00:10:33.320 And like I said, I'll share that on Facebook tomorrow the link and everything, 138 00:10:33.799 --> 00:10:37.240 and then once it starts up at the two seventeen Recovery Center, then 139 00:10:37.279 --> 00:10:41.320 for sure, you know, we'll have that post on the website and everything. 140 00:10:41.399 --> 00:10:43.919 And the thing is that's going to be great is there's going to be 141 00:10:43.960 --> 00:10:48.120 some diversity within the types of groups that are going to be happening, all 142 00:10:48.159 --> 00:10:52.679 of them that all of them are obviously you know kind of I would say 143 00:10:52.679 --> 00:11:01.039 self help sort of a kind of mentality. But the whole idea is like, 144 00:11:01.279 --> 00:11:05.919 yeah, we're going to have people air quotes chair the group. But 145 00:11:05.000 --> 00:11:09.799 all that means is that you're for sure going to show up, that you're 146 00:11:09.840 --> 00:11:13.799 for sure going to be one person that's going to be there to be present 147 00:11:15.039 --> 00:11:18.840 and be sitting down for others to join you. It really like there's no 148 00:11:18.879 --> 00:11:22.879 pressure about what it is. The group is what makes the group the people 149 00:11:22.879 --> 00:11:28.799 who come and get involved. And that's how it is in all, you 150 00:11:28.840 --> 00:11:31.399 know, in all the twelve step groups, I feel like that you usually 151 00:11:31.399 --> 00:11:33.080 go, well, not all of them. Some of them are a little 152 00:11:33.120 --> 00:11:37.200 bit more a little bit more structured, but for the most part, it's 153 00:11:37.200 --> 00:11:39.159 the group that makes the group. You know, it has nothing to do 154 00:11:39.200 --> 00:11:43.759 with the facilitator. They just say, hey, welcome, you know, 155 00:11:43.840 --> 00:11:48.360 maybe hand out some stuff, make sure you start on time and close on 156 00:11:48.440 --> 00:11:52.799 time, make sure the doors open. That's all that really means. Yeah, 157 00:11:54.240 --> 00:11:56.840 you know, I mean it's important. It's an important role. For 158 00:11:56.879 --> 00:12:01.080 sure. It's service work because if nobody steps out to do that, then 159 00:12:01.080 --> 00:12:03.600 other people aren't going to show up to come. And we're gonna have a 160 00:12:03.679 --> 00:12:09.440 gambling support group as well. It's not necessarily going to be a GA group, 161 00:12:09.960 --> 00:12:13.120 not we're just calling it a gambling support group. Yeah. And the 162 00:12:13.200 --> 00:12:16.960 woman she kind of reached out to you somehow it ended up in your voicemail 163 00:12:18.000 --> 00:12:22.320 at your job and passed it along and then I said up a time to 164 00:12:22.320 --> 00:12:26.240 meet with her, and I said a message, Hey, you're still meeting 165 00:12:26.320 --> 00:12:28.279 and I was like, okay, well I have to go drop the car 166 00:12:28.320 --> 00:12:33.799 off thanks to Bell Tire again frogging us up fixing her tire. But then 167 00:12:35.279 --> 00:12:41.000 I was gonna be like a minute two minutes late. Anyway, she showed 168 00:12:41.039 --> 00:12:43.279 up a little early and you were there, so you got to meet with 169 00:12:43.279 --> 00:12:48.200 her and yeah, yea, so that looks like that's going to be happening 170 00:12:48.200 --> 00:12:54.159 on Tuesday nights at six thirty weekly for now again in May. In May. 171 00:12:56.600 --> 00:13:01.720 So very exciting stuff going on, I know what saying. Very busy, 172 00:13:01.759 --> 00:13:05.159 and I know we we're doing our best to do Tuesday, Thursday, 173 00:13:05.240 --> 00:13:11.120 Saturday. Obviously it's a Sunday. And you got one on Tuesday and then 174 00:13:11.159 --> 00:13:13.080 on Sunday. So I don't know. I thought you did one at work. 175 00:13:13.399 --> 00:13:18.639 I did on Tuesday. We didn't one from the North Mitchell and I 176 00:13:18.799 --> 00:13:24.519 see, yeah, he said his friends were listening. I don't know if 177 00:13:24.519 --> 00:13:31.159 that was good or bad. Now. Mitchell's Mitchell's a cool dude man. 178 00:13:31.279 --> 00:13:37.480 He, like we've talked about before, has is different way into recovery. 179 00:13:37.600 --> 00:13:43.919 And he had a different program he is I would say faith based. I 180 00:13:43.919 --> 00:13:46.200 don't know, but he's going to start a meeting and he's excited about it 181 00:13:46.240 --> 00:13:50.879 and he's getting flyers made. And first I was like, oh, because 182 00:13:50.879 --> 00:13:54.039 he's going to check out a celeb at recovery, you know, And I 183 00:13:54.120 --> 00:13:54.840 was like, okay, cool, you can just take people there. He's 184 00:13:54.840 --> 00:13:56.360 like, no, no, I still want to do my own meeting. 185 00:13:56.480 --> 00:14:00.480 I'm gonna start it, you know. And that's what's so cool about this 186 00:14:00.559 --> 00:14:05.000 too, is you can start your own meeting and that's fine with us, 187 00:14:05.440 --> 00:14:09.000 you know, as long as it's not too crazy. You're like, hey, 188 00:14:09.039 --> 00:14:11.879 we're gonna have a meeting where we're gonna be kicking puppies across the table. 189 00:14:11.200 --> 00:14:13.360 Well, let's not do that. But that's how I stayed sober. 190 00:14:13.440 --> 00:14:18.039 Well, I can also land you in prison. Yeah, no, none 191 00:14:18.080 --> 00:14:22.120 of that. I mean they'll be still be screened obviously, but yeah, 192 00:14:22.159 --> 00:14:24.039 but as far as like, yeah, I mean everything had to start somewhere 193 00:14:24.080 --> 00:14:30.440 at one time, you know, So get an idea and run with it. 194 00:14:30.600 --> 00:14:31.840 Yeah, you know, if it's something that helps you, Yeah, 195 00:14:33.080 --> 00:14:37.639 I'm gonna do a podcasting group. I should. You should our podcasting save 196 00:14:37.720 --> 00:14:43.600 my life. It didn't. I mean it did, but it didn't. 197 00:14:43.679 --> 00:14:46.039 It was one of the things. It was one of my tools. We 198 00:14:46.120 --> 00:14:50.879 call it intro to podcasting. Yeah, we just talk about podcasting sober. 199 00:14:52.080 --> 00:14:54.679 I don't know, it'd be a horrible podcast, but or a horrible meeting, 200 00:14:56.080 --> 00:15:00.639 right, I'd make an entertaining I guarantee you that. So, yeah, 201 00:15:00.799 --> 00:15:05.960 those things are happening and we're very excited about that. One of my 202 00:15:05.960 --> 00:15:07.840 buddies, I haven't talked to him a long time. I reached out to 203 00:15:07.879 --> 00:15:13.240 him this week and I had a horrible dream about him. I had a 204 00:15:13.320 --> 00:15:20.559 dream that he was murdered and you were there with me and we were like 205 00:15:20.639 --> 00:15:22.000 getting the news and it was like, oh, he was murdered and his 206 00:15:22.039 --> 00:15:24.799 wife was too, and we're like, oh my gosh. Then I woke 207 00:15:24.879 --> 00:15:31.120 up immediately was like oh my gosh. And I sent him a message and 208 00:15:31.120 --> 00:15:33.919 I was like, hey, man, are you okay? You go it's 209 00:15:33.960 --> 00:15:39.000 a crazy dream. In real life, he's not married, you know, 210 00:15:39.039 --> 00:15:41.919 so that was something that was kind of weird. And he hit me back 211 00:15:43.000 --> 00:15:48.519 up later and I was like, yeah, just kind of in a tough 212 00:15:48.559 --> 00:15:52.279 spot right now. You know, he has a job that's pretty hectic. 213 00:15:52.720 --> 00:15:56.559 So like during the day when he's at work, things are just he goes 214 00:15:56.600 --> 00:16:02.200 home and it's just total opposite. You know. He's a single guy, 215 00:16:03.279 --> 00:16:10.519 has a dog, but it's just different. And he told me that he's 216 00:16:10.559 --> 00:16:15.639 been eating a lot more, and I can so relate to that. People 217 00:16:15.720 --> 00:16:19.240 in recovery or people who aren't even in recovery, we can turn to food 218 00:16:21.039 --> 00:16:22.720 and it makes us feel good. I know, man, I've been every 219 00:16:22.720 --> 00:16:27.759 single day in the last two weeks. I've had ice cream Sunday with hot 220 00:16:27.799 --> 00:16:33.039 fudge and caramel, and I don't know how I've only gained one pound, 221 00:16:33.240 --> 00:16:36.679 Like it's crazy. Well, well here's what I'm doing. Like one day, 222 00:16:36.720 --> 00:16:40.080 I think that's all I had was ice cream, and another day and 223 00:16:40.159 --> 00:16:44.320 even tonight when I had pizza because I planned out eating ice cream, so 224 00:16:44.399 --> 00:16:48.279 I only had like a little bit of pizza. So I'm like saving, 225 00:16:48.480 --> 00:16:53.440 Oh, that's probably why I don't feel so well to schedule and your ice 226 00:16:53.480 --> 00:16:57.159 cream. Yeah, oh we want the steak. M I would, but 227 00:16:57.399 --> 00:17:00.559 I'm gonna have some ice cream later. No, right, it's gonna start 228 00:17:00.639 --> 00:17:06.599 myself today, so I have ice cream later. I mean, that's that's 229 00:17:06.640 --> 00:17:11.440 crazy, but that's food is nuts, like food, nuts is food. 230 00:17:11.920 --> 00:17:15.359 But it's crazy how we can turn to that and it makes us feel better. 231 00:17:15.400 --> 00:17:19.000 And I don't know if it's because the stress of getting the office set 232 00:17:19.079 --> 00:17:25.680 up and getting that going. I just feel like, oh yeah, but 233 00:17:25.799 --> 00:17:30.920 when I get that half a caramel turtle Sunday going, it makes me feel 234 00:17:30.960 --> 00:17:33.240 good and it tastes good. You know, it stimulates the brain in that 235 00:17:33.279 --> 00:17:37.559 way. So I can totally relate to what he was saying. You know, 236 00:17:37.640 --> 00:17:41.279 it's like getting home and he's just like boom, walks into an empty 237 00:17:41.319 --> 00:17:44.200 house and he just had this crazy, hectic day where he's talked to like 238 00:17:45.680 --> 00:17:48.480 thousand people and then booming, he walks in the door, and it's just 239 00:17:49.640 --> 00:17:53.240 emptying alone, you know. And he just says he feels alone sometimes and 240 00:17:55.559 --> 00:17:56.880 he's like, I don't want to die alone. Man. I was like, 241 00:17:56.920 --> 00:18:00.200 well, in my dream, you and your wife were murdered, so 242 00:18:02.759 --> 00:18:04.720 and you were murdered together, so you're not gonna die alone. Man, 243 00:18:06.400 --> 00:18:08.200 I don't know who your wife is. And you know, hopefully that prediction 244 00:18:08.200 --> 00:18:14.680 doesn't come true, but yeah, but it maybe it was good. It 245 00:18:14.759 --> 00:18:18.400 was a prompt for you to connect with them and for to be a listening 246 00:18:18.480 --> 00:18:22.480 year, you know, which is crazy because I wanted I went back to 247 00:18:22.480 --> 00:18:26.720 sleep. We kept dreaming and you were there too, and you were like 248 00:18:26.960 --> 00:18:29.839 and I was trying to like break down the dream in my dream, and 249 00:18:29.920 --> 00:18:33.720 you were telling me that the reason why he was murdered in your dream is 250 00:18:33.759 --> 00:18:37.799 it had to be something that was so shocking that you remember to send him 251 00:18:37.839 --> 00:18:41.920 a message. I was like, oh, that makes sense. That's good 252 00:18:42.000 --> 00:18:48.440 job, smart dreaming. I know you're putting on the therapy therapist hat there 253 00:18:48.519 --> 00:18:52.119 too in your dream. In my dream, I was like, yeah, 254 00:18:52.160 --> 00:18:57.359 that makes sense. That was weird. All that ice cream I'm meeting. 255 00:19:00.039 --> 00:19:04.759 Thank you's been doing funny right. Yeah. So that's pretty much what I 256 00:19:04.920 --> 00:19:10.279 have with things today. I don't know if you have anything that's come across 257 00:19:10.319 --> 00:19:15.000 your mind or nothing. I've been able to talk to some family members because 258 00:19:15.039 --> 00:19:22.079 I got my graduation ceremony coming up this next week, the sixth. It's 259 00:19:22.119 --> 00:19:26.160 not this week, is it's next week? Yeah, so two weeks from 260 00:19:26.200 --> 00:19:30.359 now, and so that's kind of been good to touch base with everybody. 261 00:19:30.400 --> 00:19:34.240 And you know, know that our parents are coming to support me, so 262 00:19:37.000 --> 00:19:40.880 looking forward to that. And I don't know, I just I'm just trying 263 00:19:40.920 --> 00:19:44.799 to get through the semester, you know that whole thing. It's like you'd 264 00:19:44.799 --> 00:19:48.279 think by it like when you're my age, Like people don't know at the 265 00:19:48.400 --> 00:19:51.000 end of the semester. I guess when if you're at work and you have 266 00:19:51.079 --> 00:19:55.480 big projects, do you know that was like when you're just like all you 267 00:19:55.519 --> 00:20:00.119 do is think about just waiting for it to be over with and like I 268 00:20:00.200 --> 00:20:03.240 just want this to do. I want to check this off my list, 269 00:20:03.400 --> 00:20:04.880 I want to be done with it. Or you and I have total different 270 00:20:04.880 --> 00:20:10.480 workout things. Do you think so yeah, because I say one does that? 271 00:20:10.599 --> 00:20:15.559 Do oh the sixth? Okay, so I start working on the fourth 272 00:20:15.640 --> 00:20:21.039 or fifth. I can tell you though, I actually journaled about that because 273 00:20:22.119 --> 00:20:26.079 I did develop that skill throughout my graduate school. Like I was not that 274 00:20:26.160 --> 00:20:33.880 good at planning for do dates at the beginning when I first was doing it, 275 00:20:33.160 --> 00:20:37.200 and I just found it easier for me to like, if it was 276 00:20:37.279 --> 00:20:40.680 due in two weeks from now, then have it done a week and a 277 00:20:40.680 --> 00:20:42.920 half before that. At least try to. If they're a big project, 278 00:20:44.039 --> 00:20:47.079 you know, some stuff you can't help and you have to wait till something's 279 00:20:47.559 --> 00:20:49.960 read or done or assigned or given to you before you can work on it. 280 00:20:51.000 --> 00:20:55.680 So but I don't know. I just I've found working and hat is 281 00:20:56.000 --> 00:21:03.359 easier for me than having it like loose room over me. Used to like 282 00:21:03.480 --> 00:21:07.960 this date do date, eighteen page paper due, and I'm like, I 283 00:21:07.000 --> 00:21:12.960 need to have ten pages done by at least a month before it's douya. 284 00:21:14.039 --> 00:21:17.720 There was something funny though, a little funny story that happened the other day 285 00:21:19.000 --> 00:21:25.240 with your graduating. At first, you're like all bummed out. You're like, 286 00:21:25.319 --> 00:21:30.440 oh, I'm not gonna graduate with the highest honors. Yeah, yeah, 287 00:21:30.440 --> 00:21:33.759 okay, some people don't even I didn't even know what that. That's 288 00:21:33.799 --> 00:21:36.839 fine, No, I think it's healthy for me to talk about that. 289 00:21:37.400 --> 00:21:45.240 So I man, So when I was in high school and in undergraduate, 290 00:21:45.640 --> 00:21:49.680 I was big on getting good grades and that was something I had to work 291 00:21:49.720 --> 00:21:57.200 hard for to get good grades, but not like obsessed with it, you 292 00:21:57.240 --> 00:22:03.279 know. Um, And then that kind of it's funny because like I always 293 00:22:03.319 --> 00:22:08.319 share my experience at Michigan State University is when really I kind of I feel 294 00:22:08.319 --> 00:22:12.440 like my disease was actually like real reared its head. You know. That's 295 00:22:12.440 --> 00:22:18.839 when I kind of recognize that I had a problem with alcohol. But anyway, 296 00:22:18.839 --> 00:22:22.000 fast forward to graduate school is it's a whole different frame of mind. 297 00:22:22.079 --> 00:22:26.960 It's more about learning what you learn rather than the grade you get. But 298 00:22:27.119 --> 00:22:32.160 if you do the work and you're learning what you need to learn, chances 299 00:22:32.160 --> 00:22:34.519 are you probably have a good grade. The point of the story is is 300 00:22:34.559 --> 00:22:41.279 that there was one grade semester, this last semester that there was some confusion 301 00:22:41.359 --> 00:22:45.359 about if it was what grade I was going to get and anyhow, it 302 00:22:45.440 --> 00:22:51.960 all's working itself out. But Fair State University, which is the school I'm 303 00:22:52.000 --> 00:22:57.759 graduating from, gives you as you walk across the stage and presents to you 304 00:22:57.759 --> 00:23:04.119 your diploma, and then where you stand in your grade point average, which 305 00:23:04.480 --> 00:23:07.039 was depending on what great it was going to be. It was either going 306 00:23:07.119 --> 00:23:11.680 to I was gonna graduate with highest distinction or distinction of the honors college, 307 00:23:12.160 --> 00:23:18.519 you know it with honors recognition, and so it was we will wobbily between 308 00:23:18.559 --> 00:23:21.799 that if they in any way. And so I was really disappointed because I 309 00:23:21.799 --> 00:23:23.000 was like, I know, for a fact, I'm going to my GPA 310 00:23:23.119 --> 00:23:26.359 is going to be of highest honors, but it might not be printed that 311 00:23:26.440 --> 00:23:32.920 way. And that pissed me off because I was like, how can how 312 00:23:32.960 --> 00:23:36.559 can you give somebody credit for something or not give them credit for something that 313 00:23:36.599 --> 00:23:40.200 they haven't even had a chance to prove themselves of yet. And so I 314 00:23:40.240 --> 00:23:47.160 had some emails back and forth with like the dean and stuff and anyway, 315 00:23:47.279 --> 00:23:55.400 and ended up working itself out. So but not before this is the funny 316 00:23:55.480 --> 00:24:00.599 part of the story, yeah, is you hadn't really told mom. Now, 317 00:24:00.960 --> 00:24:04.119 I had not told my mother the whole the whole confusion of the grade 318 00:24:04.200 --> 00:24:11.359 and the of the semester prior, and um, it's it's irrelevant. I 319 00:24:11.359 --> 00:24:15.680 mean, the point is is that it was between two grades and it was 320 00:24:15.720 --> 00:24:18.680 this one project that made a difference, and it was a group project, 321 00:24:18.759 --> 00:24:22.960 so that kind of sucked, and you weren't really trying to stress anybody out 322 00:24:23.000 --> 00:24:26.960 over it. But then your mom came to the office and you're like, 323 00:24:27.000 --> 00:24:30.640 well, yeah, I was the time I better teller. Yeah, And 324 00:24:32.039 --> 00:24:34.079 it's not that your mom was going to be disappointed, but you were disappointed 325 00:24:34.319 --> 00:24:37.279 that it wasn't going to be that way, and you thought, I'll tell 326 00:24:37.319 --> 00:24:40.559 her, and so you do, and you you know the whole explanation, 327 00:24:40.680 --> 00:24:44.240 here's what the deal is, and blah blah, blah. And then right 328 00:24:44.319 --> 00:24:48.039 after, I mean, minutes after you tell her, minutes after I tell 329 00:24:48.079 --> 00:24:51.400 her, get an email. Oh you're good, You're gonna graduate how you 330 00:24:51.440 --> 00:24:52.759 wanted to. Yeah, so you didn't have to tell your mom that at 331 00:24:52.799 --> 00:24:57.640 all. That's what was hilarious to me. I know, I know, 332 00:24:57.759 --> 00:25:02.400 but that was just God's way of being like, don't be you shouldn't be 333 00:25:02.440 --> 00:25:06.079 scared. You know what I mean? It is and it's and that's why 334 00:25:06.079 --> 00:25:07.799 I said, I'm like, I didn't lie to you. She's like it 335 00:25:07.880 --> 00:25:11.799 was it was an omission. I said, are you really mad at me 336 00:25:11.960 --> 00:25:15.440 for not telling you? I was like, it's my business, like I 337 00:25:15.480 --> 00:25:21.279 don't have to, but um, you know it was. It was a 338 00:25:21.359 --> 00:25:25.039 learning experience too, and it actually made me step back and be like, 339 00:25:25.359 --> 00:25:29.160 hold on, wait a second, like what do these? What do these? 340 00:25:29.319 --> 00:25:32.960 What does this even mean? And why am I worried about what's printed 341 00:25:33.119 --> 00:25:38.000 on a piece of paper that will you know, be thrown away by everybody 342 00:25:38.039 --> 00:25:45.400 who looks at it. And but then again, all the time and commitment 343 00:25:45.480 --> 00:25:52.960 and effort that I put into getting this degree, and definitely you know that 344 00:25:52.960 --> 00:25:59.000 that piece I think is why it upset me so much. But you know 345 00:26:00.960 --> 00:26:03.079 it was. It was kind of it was entertaining, It was funny how 346 00:26:03.079 --> 00:26:07.839 it all worked out. It was hilarious. Yeah. So it was like 347 00:26:08.759 --> 00:26:15.519 because I feel like I was holding a secret too. Yeah yeah, yeah, 348 00:26:15.720 --> 00:26:19.359 not that I don't know it just it made me relieved that you told 349 00:26:19.400 --> 00:26:23.400 her, and then it was relieved that you are pradureing how you wanted so 350 00:26:25.960 --> 00:26:29.079 people like me just to hear the graduate word would have been like, sweet, 351 00:26:30.319 --> 00:26:34.240 here's your certificate, mister Winfield. Thanks. I don't even need that. 352 00:26:34.480 --> 00:26:40.359 I'm good. I know you thought my college career was kind of funny 353 00:26:40.359 --> 00:26:41.400 and the joke, and it kind of was. But that's okay. I 354 00:26:41.480 --> 00:26:45.240 learned the things I wanted to. I think that's good for the most part. 355 00:26:47.000 --> 00:26:48.799 But now I have some artwork to do. Yes, you do, 356 00:26:49.000 --> 00:26:53.000 And I did take a third of a semester of art. Was the last 357 00:26:53.000 --> 00:26:57.519 semester. Yes, yeah, so I feel like I'm prepared. If I 358 00:26:57.519 --> 00:27:02.599 can only remember chalk or ink or whatever watercolor is. When I'm supposed to 359 00:27:02.599 --> 00:27:11.400 put down first fifty seven by something, it's big, seven by eighty three 360 00:27:11.440 --> 00:27:18.240 maybe yeah, yeah, yeah, it's big, and it'll be something, 361 00:27:18.240 --> 00:27:22.160 all right, it'll be at the office one day, so you can come 362 00:27:22.200 --> 00:27:26.759 see it if you like. Awesome, perfect, Well, thanks for listening. 363 00:27:26.079 --> 00:27:29.599 Um, we're gonna have all that stuff what we're talking about earlier, 364 00:27:29.799 --> 00:27:33.359 like our meeting schedules and stuff like that. That's also going to be on 365 00:27:33.400 --> 00:27:36.720 the app as well. Awesome. Make sure you get the app and you 366 00:27:36.720 --> 00:27:38.160 can listen to all the podcasts. And I think it was a couple of 367 00:27:38.160 --> 00:27:41.680 podcasts that go I was like, go back and listen to the first one. 368 00:27:41.880 --> 00:27:45.440 Don't They're horrible. I tried to listen to them, but there is 369 00:27:45.519 --> 00:27:48.160 one of those early ones where I do talk about I'm going to have a 370 00:27:48.240 --> 00:27:55.359 studio and my microphones and and you hear the guys laugh, okay, Georg, 371 00:27:56.480 --> 00:28:03.160 so I guess that's me laughing. Now, don't let anybody knock your 372 00:28:03.240 --> 00:28:06.720 dreams because they don't understand them. You know, they're your dreams, and 373 00:28:07.640 --> 00:28:11.160 I don't know, you're the only one that can make them come true or 374 00:28:11.160 --> 00:28:15.519 make them mind come true. So absolutely keep working hard and stay sober, 375 00:28:15.599 --> 00:28:18.160 and you can accomplish everything anything you want, really, anythink and everything. 376 00:28:18.319 --> 00:28:23.839 This song. Thanks for listening, and we'll be back on Tuesday, if 377 00:28:23.880 --> 00:28:27.000 not sooner. Yeah. Thanks everybody, hope we had a good weekend. 378 00:28:27.319 --> 00:28:33.440 Thanks for listening to the two seventeen Recovery podcast. We hope you come back 379 00:28:33.519 --> 00:28:33.799 for our next episode.